Gloves Found Near Nancy Guthrie Home and Details of OVERNIGHT Search Along Road, with Phil Holloway

What this episode is about

investigate an area near Nancy Guthrie's home, where gloves were discovered, and set up a tent to conduct technical video work aimed at gathering detailed measurements related to the ongoing investigation. This unusual choice of timing for the search raised questions, as it seemed more effective to conduct such work during daylight hours.

Key takeaways

• Tent up, cameras rolling—crime scene recon or just a really elaborate home movie session?
• Midnight searches with flashlights? Even in the dark, a little common sense would go a long way.
• Found gloves in the desert spark theories—just remember, every gardener wears gloves, not every gardener is a suspect.
• Cell phones can lead the cops—law enforcement might be tracking more than just footprints here.
• Searching for a route of travel? GPS might be outdated; follow the phone, not just the footprints!

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 6 min speaking
• Phil Holloway (Guest) · 9 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Nancy Guthri, New York Post
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Nancy Guthri, Annie Guthy, Campbell Road, Birch Gold Group
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Birch Gold Group
4. 9:00 – 12:00: Nancy Guthri, Annie Guthy, Campbell Road
5. 12:00 – 15:00: Pima County Sheriff

Notable quotes from "Gloves Found Near Nancy Guthrie Home and Details of OVERNIGHT Search Along Road, with Phil Holloway"

• Gardening or cleanup even without gloves or you're going to walk away pretty bloody. So, we have no idea whether these gloves have any relation to the Nancy Guthrie case, but the cops have them and they're being analyzed now. Yes.

  about Nancy Guthri · at 3:21

• Foothills all along this Campbell Road, which is where I was this morning, and even over by Annie Guthy's house, I believe they are sort of following a perceived or believed…

  about Annie Guthy · at 4:14

• Gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years and a never- ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals with Birch Gold…

  about Birch Gold Group · at 5:16

• The sheriff's office and one allegedly isn't. The one that just came out from the Puma County Sheriff says, We want everything for the last month from January 1st to February…

  about Pima County Sheriff · at 12:00

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nancy Guthri — Person · Referenced victim / central case subject · 4 mentions · first at 0:04
  The investigation being discussed centers on activity around her home (tent, searches, video evidence) and items possibly tied to her disappearance/case.
• Annie Guthy — Person · Referenced related individual / secondary focal point of searches · 2 mentions · first at 4:18
  Law enforcement activity is repeatedly described as focusing around her house/neighborhood, potentially due to a suspected cell phone route/lead.

Companies & orgs

• Pima County Sheriff — Company · Law enforcement agency · 1 mention · first at 12:46
  Primary law enforcement agency involved in the investigation of Nancy Guthrie's case, coordinating searches and requesting video footage from residents.
• New York Post — Company · Media reference · 1 mention · first at 2:52
  Media outlet that was present during the discovery of gloves by law enforcement, contributing to the coverage of the case.
  Where they found those gloves yesterday, which we haven't hit exactly, but people have likely heard about it. last night the New York Post happened to be with law enforcement…

Places & events

• Campbell Road — Place · Search location · 2 mentions · first at 4:12
  Key area where law enforcement conducted searches related to the Nancy Guthrie case, believed to be part of the perpetrator's route.
  That we've seen in the area of both NY's home yesterday and higher up in the foothills all along this Campbell Road, which is where I was this morning, and even over by Annie…

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 5:25
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Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 So, I think the biggest thing that's happened since we last saw you um is the tent this morning over the outside of Nancy Guthri's home. Can you just tell us about that and then we'll get into the search around the gloves?

0:13 Yeah, I had to drive over there and look at it just to see it with my own eyes. It and you know, look, it's the kind of thing that I would have expected to see to protect that scene like early on in the investigation, but they put it up. They went inside and it looks like they were doing some technical video work which I believe was be designed to um maybe get precise height measurements for the perpetrator at the that we see on the pictures and on the video. Uh and then they they took it down as soon as they left. So it went up, they did some work, technical work. Um looks like they had some videography equipment as well.

0:49 maybe they're doing a like a crime scene um recreation or a video of some type inside there and then they took it down and they left. So yeah, that was just one of the very interesting and uh I would say maybe odd things, but I'm sure there's a good explanation for it once we learn what that is, but there are some other things that are going on that are I think a little bit peculiar.

1:10 Yeah. Well, tell us what they are. What they are. All right. So, in the middle of the night, uh around 2:15 in the morning here in Tucson, the sheriff's forensic folks um go out and they search this uh area just off the side of the roadway, very close to where I'm sitting right now, but also very close to Nancy Guthri's home. Now, I went back out there today in the daylight and I took my own video and I looked around and you know, I think that if you're looking for something, and by the way, this is not that far from where they found the gloves uh yesterday. But if you're looking for something, I I would say go in the daylight, you know, uh rather than go out with flashlights. But um

1:57 Right. So, you're telling me they went at 2:15 a.m. to the spot searching? Yeah. And so I it's it's the kind of place where you would look if like you can pull out of NY's home, right, and you just head back towards Tucson and that could be the way that you go. It's just one of the expected um routes of egress from there, right? And so if you found gloves just down the road, it makes sense to search other areas on that road. So that much I get, but I just don't understand why they do it in the dark with flashlights because I was able to go out there in the broad daylight and I could see very well. I mean, there was trash board for the viewing audience. You can see NY's home is uh labeled in red at the top of our little map. And then the early AM search happened uh in the middle there. And then down below the early M search is where they found those gloves yesterday, which we haven't hit exactly, but people

2:51 have likely heard about it. Uh last night the New York Post happened to be with law enforcement when they found now we're told it was a pair of black gloves. At first the report was it's one glove and now it's since been confirmed they found a pair. Uh they're not describing them uh as identical to what they believe the perpetrator here was wearing. But they do look similar. But everyone's quick to point out, Phil, that it's the desert and you really can't function at all in the desert if you're doing any sort of pruning or gardening or cleanup even without gloves or you're going to walk away pretty bloody. So, we have no idea whether these gloves have any relation to the Nancy Guthrie case, but the but the cops have them and they're being analyzed now. Yes.

3:34 Yep. That's my understanding. I think there's a possibility they could be connected and let me explain why. I haven't been able to develop uh a source or two of my own in the short time that I've been here, some people that I've talked to. And you know, it is believed that the perpetrator had a phone in his pocket when you see him in those videos uh and in the the photos at the doorway at the at the Nest camera. And so a telephone, a cell phone, even if it's turned off, there's ways to to track that. And so I believe that the searches that we've seen in the area of both uh NY's home yesterday and higher up in the foothills all along this Campbell Road, which is where I was this morning, and even over by Annie Guthy's house, uh I believe they are sort of following a perceived or believed route of travel following a device. Uh, and specifically one of a neighbor over at Annie's uh, neighborhood didn't want to be

4:36 interviewed on camera, but told me that uh, the FBI had been at her house and that one of the things they were looking for, among other things, was a cell phone. Okay, so I'm putting all this together and there's obviously missing pieces, but what it's starting to paint the picture of for me at least is the the law enforcement officers believe that they have a general route of travel and they are searching more specifically now along where that phone might have traveled, either going to or from Nancy Guthri's home.

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6:04 mind regardless of the uncertainty. Text MK to 989898. If that's true, Phil, that's huge. I mean, if they actually have a cell phone now associated potentially with this crime, then then we may be hours away from an arrest. Like that, how long would it take them to figure out who owns the cell phone?

6:25 Well, I you know, that's a good question that um I'm not a cell phone expert. I can just tell you what the sources have told me that that that's one thing the FBI was trying to find. And if it's a burner, it may it may take more time. But if it's actually registered to somebody, then yeah, they should have they could very easily have a name. So the FBI just is holding these cards very close to the vest. Uh but if there is a cell phone, and I believe there is, uh and I believe that's the source of a lot of these new searches, that's what's driving this. It's driving the location of where you see the FBI fanning out, searching all around, you know, Annie's house a couple of days ago. And so they put all this together and I believe that they are working off that sort of a presumption and they're trying to track down where that phone came and went. So, you're saying your information is based

7:18 on your sources that they have identified a cell phone that they think may be attached to this crime and that they're figuring it out thanks to the the cell towers,

7:30 possible the route pos the possible route that this person took on the night in question and going and searching. And that's what's explaining these overnight searches because this isn't the first overnight search we've had. We've had a couple of these.

7:43 Yeah. And you remember the phones talk to towers, but they also talk to every uh Wi-Fi router. If you go down any neighborhood and you look on your phone and you see the list of available networks, you may not be joining those networks, but your phone is communicating with those routers. And so there is a digital footprint that is left behind by the phone everywhere it goes. Um, they looked I would say around Annie's house I would say that was probably a maybe a half mile radius if I had to guess based on what I saw. And I I went to the house and I drove all around when the FBI was out there and I was seeing these teams of agents and there was some sheriff's deputies out there too blocks and blocks away. So, they were literally fanning out in a large area, which would be consistent with maybe a ping off of a cell phone tower that you can't maybe you can't triangulate it and get a more precise

8:37 location. Wow. But, you know, it seemed to be a pretty large area they were searching, including people's yards, the neighbors yards. They were looking for uh any items of relevance. But um

8:48 well I mean if that explains they were looking for a phone the activity over at Annie and Tomas's house then that's even more interesting that that a phone if it's true that a phone that police think may have been associated with this crime went back into the Annie and Tomas neighborhood. That's interesting as an investigative matter and it's also explanatory of why they keep going back over there and canvasing neighbors and so on. And so you're you're saying you believe that too is based on your sourcing uh from one presumes people in a position to know on them having a possible phone lead.

9:24 Yeah. And and look the the fact that you know the you just have to look at the facts. I mean the the investigation is clearly um focusing on on two general places. The area around NY's home and the area around Annie's home. And so the fact that the investigation keeps taking officers to those places, you know, it doesn't take a genius to understand that that's where they think they're going to find evidence. And so, uh, they're not there on accident. They weren't out here at 2:15 in the morning by accident either. They were looking for something specific. Um, because it wasn't a large search area. They literally went to like this one intersection right where I was.

10:05 And you showed the video. Uh, it's not a big area. So, they had a specific place that they were going to and it was for some reason. We just don't know what it was. It wasn't an accident, though.

10:14 And that's two well, two times that they've done something in the middle of the night or in the the the cover of darkness that easily could have been done during the daytime hours. And we just don't know why. Why was this search done at 2:15 a.m.? Why did they go to Annie and Tomas's house at 7:30 to 10:30 p.m. when it was dark and not turn on the lights and take photographs inside? I mean, it's just all so bizarre to us. Okay, I want to ask you about now um this alert that the sheriff just sent out saying he's asking for more video. He's asking for the the locals, the residents in NY's neighborhood to do what exactly fell.

10:53 So, he's uh they're using people who have, I guess, the Ring system, and there's a way to send out alerts asking people for video uh at certain dates and certain times. And some of these go back into, as I understand it, January, multiple times prior to the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. So the question then obviously is what's what's special about those dates? And they they're not obviously telling us the reason they're focusing on those dates, but if I had to guess, if I had to hypothesize, one hypothesis would be they might be checking to see who has delivered maybe an Amazon package to uh that area. They, you know, it's not hard to go on somebody's Amazon history and see when they've had things delivered, right? And so they might be trying to identify individuals who were in that area, in that neighborhood, making some type of delivery. We've already seen one person who's a known delivery driver uh

11:51 that was taken in for questioning and released. Yeah. Or Carlos. Well, because there's two communications from the from the sheriff's office. One is actually from the sheriff's office and one allegedly isn't. The one that just came out from the Puma County Sheriff says, "We want everything for the last month from January 1st to February 2nd. We want everything you have. Uh, scour your Ring cameras and your Nest cameras and let us know if you see anything suspicious whatsoever to all the people in the area." And that definitely came from the sheriff and he just put it out. But then there was an earlier report that was circulated on the neighborhood like Ring camera watch chat that you're referring to and that refers to two separate dates on which the sheriff allegedly wants data. The sheriff's office is saying that that's we didn't give that though that Ring camera like discussion.

12:40 There's a screen grab of it that the neighbors um posted, one of them online, and it does show a sheriff's seal and and seems to come from the Pima County Sheriff, though the sheriff's office is officially denying that for some reason. It could just be that the sheriff went to, you know, people from the the deputies had gone to neighbors and said, "We want footage from January 11th between 900 p.m. and midnight." Okay, that's weird, right? January 11th, as far as we know, has nothing to do with this crime, but they know more than we do. Uh, and then we also want January 31st, which is the Saturday that Nancy disappeared. It's the morning.

13:17 The morning before she disappeared from 9:30 in the morning to 11 a.m. So Nancy was alive and well then um saying we believe there may have been a quote suspicious vehicle on Via Entrada around 10 a.m. Again, this is these are they style it in this separate uh Ring camera discussion group as quote new timeline for Nancy video requests. And they say it's from the sheriff. Again, the sheriff says that's not from him, but there's definitely an actual post suggesting that the locals believe they've been asked by the sheriff for those two dates in particular. And we know for a fact they've been asked for all 30 days prior to and around the actual disappearance. I mean, they're

14:00 they're basically crowdsourcing the solution to this crime at this point, Phil.

14:05 Yeah. And it's it it tracks with uh maybe a neighbor and they've been talking to all the neighbors. it tracks with a neighbor saying to somebody, the sheriff or the FBI, saying that on January 31st there was maybe some suspicious vehicle in the area. And so now that the sheriff has that information given by a neighbor, uh the sheriff's trying to identify, you know, that vehicle and determine if in fact it was um suspicious or if they can rule it out. But it seems like they're following up on specific leads that they are given by the people that they are interviewing, which are the people in that area.

14:45 It's very smart because look at look at the cases that we know about. You know, it's like Colberger cased that home repeatedly before he committed the crime in question. And also after we know he went back the morning that he committed the crime in Idaho. it was 4 in the morning between 4 and 4:20 and he was back there by 9 9:30 that next morning, you know, 5 hours after he'd committed the murders to look at it. Maybe he realized he left behind evidence. And so the sheriff's smart to include the the 36 hours after this crime for suspicious vehicles, but the odds that this guy just did this cold and never once drove by the house are very small. So this makes sense to me.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Gloves Found Near Nancy Guthrie Home and Details of OVERNIGHT Search Along Road, with Phil Holloway"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Phil Holloway (Guest).

What is "Gloves Found Near Nancy Guthrie Home and Details of OVERNIGHT Search Along Road, with Phil Holloway" about?

investigate an area near Nancy Guthrie's home, where gloves were discovered, and set up a tent to conduct technical video work aimed at gathering detailed measurements related to the ongoing investigation. This unusual choice of timing for the search raised questions, as it seemed more effective to conduct such work during daylight hours.

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

6 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Nancy Guthri, Pima County Sheriff, Annie Guthy, Campbell Road, New York Post. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Gloves Found Near Nancy Guthrie Home and Details of OVERNIGHT Search Along Road, with Phil Holloway"?

The episode runs 16 min; the transcript is about 2,915 words in 27 timestamped sections.

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