Inside RFK's Fight Against the D.C. Scientific Establishment From INSIDE HHS, with Calley Means

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: American Medical Association, Brandon Kenny, Norway, school lunch
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Department of Education, Dr. Marty McCary, Pete Hegseth, teachers union
3. 6:00 – 9:00: White House, food stamps, gain of function research
4. 9:00 – 12:00: Insurance Companies, food pyramid, Obamacare, vaccine schedule
5. 12:00 – 15:00: Insurance Companies, pharmaceutical industry
6. 15:00 – 17:14: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Inside RFK's Fight Against the D.C. Scientific Establishment From INSIDE HHS, with Calley Means"

• My mind always goes back to an hour after Secretary Kenny got sworn in and by President Trump and President Trump looked at him and said, I have your back. Special interests have rigged our healthcare system, rigged our food.

  about Brandon Kenny · at 0:01

• Child is born, we actually recommend two times more vaccines than they do in Norway. In America, a child's diet is 70% ultrarocessed food and it's 10% in other countries. In…

  about Norway · at 0:48

• Do, $200 million, every single food company in the world, and they came into the White House and they said, This is hurting jobs to take food stamp funding away from soda. They…

  about White House · at 2:05

• They are putting warriors in there to go up against entrenched interest. Pete Hegsth absolutely dismantling the military-industrial complex. you we are shutting down the department of education which we spend more on.

  about Pete Hegseth · at 3:06

• Yes, 100%. We need not only Trump, we need Trump Jr., JD, Marco, any of them will keep the Maha legacy going.

  about Trump Jr. · at 4:16

• Directly from the teacher union document who they were in bed with? They copy and pasted the paragraphs from the teachers union saying that we should shut schools down for two…

  about teachers union · at 5:52

• Is the agenda of the administration right now. In the senior most meetings, it is how can we get food stamps to healthy food? How can we work with local farmers to get whole food for schools?

  about food stamps · at 8:10

• Companies actually make more money when people are sick. They capped insurance profits at 15%. So insurance companies want to make more and more premiums and premiums go up and…

  about Insurance Companies · at 9:35

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Brandon Kenny — Person · 1 mention · first at 0:05
• Pete Hegseth — Person · 1 mention · first at 3:09
• Trump Jr. — Person · 1 mention · first at 4:18
• Dr. Marty McCary — Person · 1 mention · first at 4:38
  Career employees and just so everyone knows, the FDA when Marty McCary, who's a hero, came in, he's amazing. for a couple months, he had just around 10 political appointees. Those are people he was actually able to choose. Jay Basharia at.
• Coach JD — Person · 1 mention
• Gwen De Marco — Person · 1 mention
• Jay Bhattacharya — Person · 1 mention

Books & papers

• CIA manual called how to be a bad bureaucrat and subvert an institution from within — Book · 1 mention

Companies & orgs

• Insurance Companies — Company · 3 mentions · first at 9:39
• Treasury — Company · 1 mention · first at 0:30
  Administrator of the EPA, the military leadership across the entire government, the Treasury, the OM, and he said, I want you to figure out why kids are getting so sick, and I…
• American Medical Association — Company · 1 mention · first at 1:02
  70% ultrarocessed food and it's 10% in other countries. In America, the American Medical Association, which really controls the standard of care for everyone in this room, still recommends gender affirming care for 2-year-olds.
• Department of Education — Company · 1 mention · first at 3:15
  Hegsth absolutely dismantling the military-industrial complex. you we are shutting down the department of education which we spend more on education than any country in the…
• teachers union — Company · 1 mention · first at 5:56
• pharmaceutical industry — Company · 1 mention · first at 12:10
  Incentivized for beds to be empty instead of full as they are today. We need a pharmaceutical industry that is incentivized to prevent and reverse disease instead of manage it…
• CDC — Company · 1 mention
• EPA — Company · 1 mention
• FDA — Company · 1 mention
• General Hospital — Company · 1 mention
• HHS — Company · 1 mention
• media company — Company · 1 mention
• NIH — Company · 1 mention
• OM — Company · 1 mention
• USDA — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

• Ozempic — Product · 1 mention
• SSRRI — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

• school lunch — Concept · 1 mention · first at 2:24
  Keep ultrarocessed food in school lunches because the Trump administration is taking a sledgehammer to school lunch to crappy food in school lunches and getting fresh food in schools.
• gain of function research — Concept · 1 mention · first at 6:15
  To mention with the NIH funding literally the creation of the pandemic with the gain of function research. I mean you could not have a bigger example of failure. RFK correctly fires three employees and it is national news.
• food stamps — Concept · 1 mention · first at 8:15
• Obamacare — Concept · 1 mention · first at 9:29
  As a statement of fact. They profit from people being sick. That is the fatal flaw of Obamacare. Obamacare actually incentivizes this sick care system.
• food pyramid — Concept · 1 mention · first at 10:25
  Why don't we change the food pyramid?
• vaccine schedule — Concept · 1 mention · first at 10:30
  Why don't we talk about detoxifying people's lives? Why don't we talk about the vaccine schedule for newborn babies and maybe actually create wellness so that they don't need…
• COVID — Concept · 1 mention
• Ultraprocessed Foods — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

• White House — Place · 3 mentions · first at 2:12
• Norway — Place · 1 mention · first at 0:52

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 15:49
  It's the one time of year that Birch Gold Group gives away free gold with every qualifying purchase. That's right.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 How's it going? You know, my mind always goes back to an hour after Secretary Kenny got sworn in and by President Trump and President Trump looked at him and said, "I have your back. Special interests have rigged our healthcare system, rigged our food system for decades." and he said,"I want you to get in a room with the USDA secretary of agriculture, the administrator of the EPA, the military leadership across the entire government, the Treasury, the OM, and he said, "I want you to figure out why kids are getting so sick, and I want you to be fearless, and I want you to completely ignore special interests." And what he what he particularly said to do is look at trend lines between different countries. And you look at what's happening in America, and it's very unique and pronounced in America. When a child is born, we actually recommend two times more vaccines than they do in Norway. In America, a child's diet is

0:57 70% ultrarocessed food and it's 10% in other countries. In America, the American Medical Association, which really controls the standard of care for everyone in this room, still recommends gender affirming care for 2-year-olds.

1:10 My god, that is sick. You you just go through the inputs to American health, you know, getting getting older. Um, a teen is eight hours on their phone. Um, we have the highest cancer rates for pe for kids of any society in human history this year in America. Iowa particularly is the highest rates of cancer of any place in the world in human history. Childhood obesity rates, diabetes rates are six times more uh than any other developed country in the world. So, President Trump asked them to get in the room and we started talking about the real root cause. We started talking about our food system. We started talking about environmental toxins and chemicals.

1:53 Talking about these for the first time, things that the Democrats, Republicans in the past would never talk about. And it's interesting you mentioned that my background in the soda industry. Just last week, the soda industry started a group like the thing I used to do, $200 million, every single food company in the world, and they came into the White House and they said, "This is hurting jobs to take food stamp funding away from soda." They said, "We need cuz we're building new factories. We need to keep ultrarocessed food in school lunches because the Trump administration is taking a sledgehammer to school lunch to crappy food in school lunches and getting fresh food in schools.

2:33 They said that it is completely inappropriate that the FDA is finally studying the chemicals in our food. We have 10,000 more chemicals in our food today than Europe. And the FDA's actually has a gall with the NIH to study them. And they said that's going to hurt our business. and the administration said, "No thanks. You can get out of this office." And that has never happened before. And

2:55 and I'll just say that the reason I'm fired up is because this is what is happening on every single front. This administration is taking on big messy conversations on every single level. They are putting warriors in there to go up against entrenched interest. Pete Hegsth absolutely dismantling the military-industrial complex. you we are shutting down the department of education which we spend more on education than any country in the world and we're failing we're shutting down returning that back to the states we have insurgents Tulsi gabard every single part of the US economy we are asking bold questions and every single time the media the expert class you know the entire organs of DC that profit from this existing system are saying that President Trump is failing that Bobby Kennedy's failing that Pete he is failing This is a scop. The Democrats are saying that the status quo is acceptable and all we need to do is put

3:50 more money into our existing systems. And I think this midterm coming up, I think we need to harden up right now. I think it we have an opportunity for President Trump to be the most important president in American history. And we must we must harden up. We must resist this sigh up that's happening because this is a longterm journey. We need 10 years of MAGA to really uproot these institutions.

4:16 Yes, 100%. We need not only Trump, we need Trump Jr., JD, Marco, any of them will keep the the Maha legacy going.

4:24 So to speak to us about the many reports that RFKJU are being undermined from within. So, I was forwarded from one of the good career employees and and and just so everyone knows, you know, the FDA when Marty McCary, who's a hero, uh came in, he's amazing. Um, you know, for a couple months, he had just around 10 political appointees. Those are people he was actually able to choose. Jay Basharia at the NIH had one. So, every employee in government um is these deep sters. They've been there for a long time. And I got a I got an email from one of the good ones and they're sending around a CIA manual called how to be a bad bureaucrat and subvert an institution from within.

5:09 Wow. And they said that 90% of employees at HHS, which has 70,000 employees, are working and talking in the lunchroom about this manual and telling each other that their job is to save America and save science from the agenda of President Trump and RFK. That is how people think throughout I think every major department.

5:29 How do we get rid of them? Yes. Right. This is where this is where the SCOP comes in. The CDC has been Can you think of a better case study of failure? Can you think of a better public health disaster than the COVID response where the CDC accidentally in their guidance on school lockdowns copy and pasted directly from the teacher union document who they were in bed with? They copy and pasted the paragraphs from the teachers union saying that we should shut schools down for two years. They said that cloth masks were fine. Right? They they they they led

6:07 they also funded the whole pandemic. Not to mention with the NIH funding literally the creation of the pandemic with the gain of function research. I mean you could not have a bigger bigger example of failure. RFK correctly fires three employees and it is national news. Pete Pete Hseth when when our kids are being sent into thoughtless war after thoughtless war. We spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined. We're not getting the right outcomes. We're not positioned for the net future. He fires a couple generals.

6:38 Front page breathless news. There is an absolute information architecture to say that these actually pretty moderate and pretty things that 90% of people in the country would agree with are absolutely attacks on the American way of life and we need to harden up and absolutely resist that. They need to be firing a lot more people. They need to be doing a lot more which which President Trump is command which which President Trump is telling them to do. President Trump, my image of President Trump from you, from my time in the White House, he sits at that desk and the the issues of the world come in and out of office in a 15-minute increment and he sits there and tells them to go hard. That's what he says every time.

7:16 How's How's Bobby Kennedy feeling about the job? Bobby is very similar. I've been so fortunate to to see him and up close and he has an incredible I'd call spiritual mindset on this. I think he is put on this earth for this mission and I and I think he is in the running for behind President Trump as the second most attacked person in the country and he is never ever flustered. I

7:44 he's the most popular cabinet member. Did you know that? Number one, he sits behind his desk and says, "How can we get kids healthier food? How can we support American farmers? How can we get cell phones out of schools? Um, how can we get recess in schools? 40% of public schools actually don't have mandatory recess.

8:07 These are all things that are it's it's unbelievable. These are all these this is the agenda of the administration right now. In the senior most meetings, it is how can we get food stamps to healthy food? How can we work with local farmers to get whole food for schools? How can we have more medical funding instead of going to SSRRI rates among teenage girls going up eight times in the past 5 years? 8x it's gone up. How can we get to the root cause of these issues of mental health? It's just constant hammering on getting to the root cause. Very positive things. But he's slandered. But somehow him and President Trump are the two most popular political officials in America still to this day. Much more popular than Gavin Newsome.

8:45 Yes. Um and um and I think that comes this is what we talk about. We're trying to do the right thing. We're trying to do the right thing. We are going to get slandered. But people in that White House and people under Secretary Kennedy are trying to push against these broken institutions that have led, I think, to a poisoning of the American people. It's just that simple. 90% of our healthcare costs, which are the biggest part of our budget, the biggest driver of unaffordability right now, 90% of those healthcare costs are preventable lifestyle conditions. But we have a system, the medical system, the largest industry in the country, the fastest growing industry in the company country, not as a conspiratorial statement, just as a statement of fact. They profit from people being sick. That is the fatal flaw of Obamacare. Obamacare actually incentivizes this sick care system.

9:35 Companies actually make more money when people are sick. They they they capped insurance profits at 15%. So insurance companies want to make more and more premiums and premiums go up up up and insurance companies want you sick. The reason our health care costs are so high. The reason we have three times higher healthare costs than any other country in the developed world is because we're so sick. And we must and the Republican party quite frankly is the only place where they're saying how can we fundamentally reform this? It's got to be about health. And the Democrats are saying we need to shut down the government to pour more money into this broken system without any reform.

10:13 That's such a good point, right? Because you and your sister have been focused from the beginning on changing the system of let's keep everybody sick and then put them into this health care system that makes corporations rich to why don't we encourage some exercise? Why don't we change the food pyramid? Why don't we talk about detoxifying people's lives? Why don't we talk about the vaccine schedule for newborn babies and maybe actually create wellness so that they don't need the insurance companies anywhere near as much as they do now. But what do you think about like we had a questioner come out earlier talking about his daughter who still just has a new job but is paying $900 a month to to to be insured like you that's that's impossible for somebody who's young and just starting out.

10:53 Well, the issue of the day after the previous elections a couple days ago is affordability. And uh health care is, as I said, the largest driver of lack of affordability. It it's it's it's 25% of our national spend, our national income. It used to be 4% in 1940. In European countries, it's 10%. It's it's it's it's skyrocketing out of control. So on a personal level, um we we need to allow young people to get outside the medical system to have catastrophic coverage, but to really invest in their wellness, their health, and young people are suffering. Young people are suffering from chronic rates of anxiety, obesity, depression, infertility, and they're being funneled into the sick care system. So I'd advise her to find the cheapest plan she can with the highest rate of coverage and just invest in her own health. But but let's not mince words. And I think this is what Republicans need to understand.

11:46 This these institutions, the military, the the immigration system, the healthcare system, they're oil tankers. Um as aggressive as the Trump administration is being, we are starting the bold conversation to start turning these things. But I do see MAGA as a 10year journey. We have to have a health care system where hospitals are incentivized for beds to be empty instead of full as they are today. We need a pharmaceutical industry that is incentivized to to prevent and reverse disease instead of manage it when all their revenue comes from people getting sick and managing it. We need insurance companies to be incentivized for wellness which will lower cost. Um the Republican party and I think the maja argument of the system being so broken and slanted against us is the predicate for real conversation about healthcare reform. And I'm worried, Megan, because I I do think with this affordability

12:37 question, healthcare is it's at a breaking point. We we will have a different health care system, I think, in the next 5 years. And we are marshalling the conversation what true reform to unleash thriving to of the American people looks like, which is so central to this Maha argument that Democrats are going to have socialized medicine. And we need to win this argument. We need to continue supporting President Trump in winning this argument about a reform that we need or else we're going to have socialized medicine.

13:03 And I fear. Let me ask you about the big O ompic. Yeah. Because President Trump just announced that he's going to push a program that would make the drug a lot cheaper for a lot of people, but you're not a fan of this drug. So, how do you feel about that?

13:18 So, what President Trump has done actually is one of the most aggressive uh moves against pharma in modern American history. So, he is demanding that every single drug is at the best possible price compared to the rest of the world. and Ozimpic costs $1,600 when it's when it's $80 in Germany.

13:38 $80 in Germany and $1,600 and they were trying to push it on the American taxpayer. So this he he said this is not happening. I'm going to use tariffs. I'm going to use every single tool in the tool belt to get drug prices at the same price, the most competitive price the rest of the world. The US is 4% of the population of the world and we produce 75% of worldwide pharmaceutical profits right now. 75%. So the OYPIC is a drug. It's out there and this announcement was part of that overall plan and they've dramatically lowered the cost of the drug. Now, as Secretary Kennedy and others said at the press conference announcing it, obesity, and as I've said a lot, obesity is not a drug deficiency. We have a spiritual crisis in this country where there's an epidemic of of obesity among six-year-olds. I mean, that is a moral failing among our country. And while this is being approved for um Medicare

14:34 and some cases Medicaid, stay away from the kids on this drug. We are going to improve the food system for these kids. But I will also say we need an all of the- above strategy for obesity. The drug might be useful in some cases. It's it's much lower price right now, but this administration in the next four years is going to dramatically improve our food system and have healthy food on a child's plate, healthy food on our soldiers plates. Um, and I will bet anyone I will bet anyone who these people in the media who are slandering Maha saying Bobby Kenny's dangerous at the end of the Trump presidency we are going to have shockingly lower rates of obesity of diabetes I think of cancer of Alzheimer's which is highly related to diabetes because of the policies the all of the above policies but also and I think President Trump deserves credit for this. He through his alliance with Bobby Kennedy has unleashed. You've seen

15:36 it. People are just talking about health more. Moms are reading labels more. I hear moms, probably some in this room, that are demanding healthier food at their schools. People are just thinking about this stuff more.

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Questions about this episode

What is discussed in "Inside RFK's Fight Against the D.C. Scientific Establishment From INSIDE HHS, with Calley Means"?

In order: 0:00 American Medical Association, Brandon Kenny, Norway, school lunch; 3:00 Department of Education, Dr. Marty McCary, Pete Hegseth, teachers union; 6:00 White House, food stamps, gain of function research; 9:00 Insurance Companies, food pyramid, Obamacare, vaccine schedule; 12:00 Insurance Companies, pharmaceutical industry; 15:00 Birch Gold Group.

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The episode runs 17 min; the transcript is about 3,089 words in 29 timestamped sections.

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