Megyn Kelly Brings the TRUTH on Viral "Five-Year-Old Detained By ICE" Story and Sets Record Straight

What this episode is about

The discussion centers around the controversy surrounding the detainment of a five-year-old boy by ICE while attempting to arrest his undocumented father. Megyn Kelly refutes claims made by school officials that the child was used as bait for the arrest, asserting that the narrative pushed by critics of ICE is misleading and not supported by the facts.

Key takeaways

• When a dad runs from ICE, does he really expect a playdate for his kid?
• Claims of 'baiting' children distract from the real issue: illegal entry and responsibility.
• The real kicker: a child’s safety shouldn't hinge on a parent's dodgy status.
• Judge the action, not the optics—who wouldn’t crack jokes about a runaway dad?
• ICE isn’t child services; their mission is clear, but the messaging is a chaotic circus.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 10 min speaking
• J.D. Vance (Guest) · 1 min speaking
• Mary Granland (Guest) · 1 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Mary Granland
2. 6:00 – 9:00: Mary Granland, CBP1 app
3. 9:00 – 11:36: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Megyn Kelly Brings the TRUTH on Viral "Five-Year-Old Detained By ICE" Story and Sets Record Straight"

• And then you heard the school board lady say, Well, they I was ready to take him. Mary Granland is her name, school board chair for Columbia Heights Public School. She was…

  about Mary Granland · at 6:18

• Office in 2024, well, he was he won in 2024. He took office in January 2025, he canled that order. Trump wiped the whole thing out saying, Nope, we're not doing that anymore.…

  about CBP1 app · at 8:52

• A new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this be the year you decide to talk to somebody from Birch Gold Group?…

  about Birch Gold Group · at 10:21

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Mary Granland — Person · Referenced local official / primary accuser in narrative · 2 mentions · first at 1:18
  Identified as the Columbia Heights Public School school board chair who characterized ICE actions as using the child as 'bait' and claimed she could have taken custody of the child.

Products & tech

• CBP1 app — Product · Case study · 1 mention · first at 8:23
  Discussed as a tool introduced by the Biden administration for asylum seekers, later canceled by Trump.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 10:30
  Promoted as a financial service for diversifying savings with physical gold, offering a rebate for first-time buyers.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 There's a huge story in the news. We covered it on AM update. And it is yet another attempt to smear ICE. And it's gotten the left frothing at the mouth. They're so excited about this 5-year-old boy who was taken with his father um to a facility because they are deporting the father. The father is here illegally as is the mother is our understanding. and they swooped in and they tried to remove the guy. They tried to arrest the guy so that they could remove him. And here's what happened. The left ran with, "Oh my god, they used this little kid as bait." That's what they want us to believe. They used him as bait. They're trying to use children to sort of get um get their illegal immigrant parents arrested, which is not at all what happened. That's incorrect. Um, and that all came, as far as I can tell, from one one person who was at the school district who decided to weigh in and use that term. They used him as bait.

1:07 And ICE has denied that entirely. And the facts do not support that either. All right. I I do want to talk about it. Let's see. It was u Yeah, the school board chair for Columbia Heights Public School. Um, she's the one who first got this started. Do we have her sound bite, Deb? Where she she says uh he was used as bait saw 28. Let's listen to it.

1:28 And as I got out of my car and came around the corner, I heard, "What are you doing? Don't take the child." His mom like, "There are people here that can take him." There was a um another adult who lived in the home that was there saying, "I will take the child. I will take the child." Um somebody else was yelling. They saw that I was there and said, "School is here. They can take the child. you don't have to take them. Um, and there were there were there was ample opportunity uh to be able to safely hand that child off to adults.

2:01 Um, and mom mom was there. She saw out the window and dad was yelling, "Please do not open the door. Don't open the door." Because of the other picture that I'm sure you've seen where there's a little boy knocking at the door with an ICE agent looming over him. And just one the second question is are you accusing ICE of using children as bent? Yes. I mean that it it's very clear from the pictures from the videos from firsthand accounts. I was there. Um this is what happened. Okay. Fed to her obviously by a reporter. I think that's CNN. We're checking. Um using the child debate. So, what happened was ICE went to this home to arrest to it's for the purposes of deportation the illegal father and mother. I I believe they're both in there and they're both here illegally.

2:55 That's what ICE tells us. They have a 5-year-old son. And when the dad pulled up in his car, they they approached the dad and the dad ran. This is all from ICE. The dad ran. He made a run for it. Now, now they want you to believe that the dad has a lawyer and all the leftist media, that he was here illegally, that he was here legally because he was seeking asylum. That's not true. I'm going to get into it in a second, but uh if he was here legally and there was no problem, why why did he run? Why did he run? Ask yourself that. Just common sense. Uh he ran and he left his 5-year-old boy behind in the car.

3:33 Then the ICE agents, some of them ran after the guy and some stayed with the little boy so that he wouldn't be abandoned in the cold weather with no parent there. Meanwhile, they tried to get the mother to come outside of the house and the witnesses report that they sent the boy up to the door to knock on the door. The mother wouldn't come out. She wouldn't come out. So, I don't know whether they sent the boy up to go knock on the door or not. I accept that woman's testimonial that that happened. There's nothing wrong with that. That's not bait. They were already on scene.

4:05 They were focused on the father. And by the way, I'm assuming the mother is here illegally. She's fair game, too. They wanted her to come outside because they wanted to see if she would take her little boy. That's actually why they were trying to get the mother. And the father's telling her because they eventually got the dad and brought him back um not to open the door because the father doesn't want the mother to go. ICE then promised the woman she would not be arrested. She was not going to be deported at this point.

4:32 No, she wouldn't. She wouldn't listen. Okay, she doesn't trust ICE. Fine. But at that point, what was I supposed to do? This is what JD Vance was saying. What do they do? Did they just leave the child? Let him wander. Here's JD Vance on that.

4:48 District here is alleging ICE agents detaining a 5-year-old. Are you proud of how your administration is conducting this immigration crackdown here in Minnesota right now? Well, I'm proud of the fact that we're standing behind law enforcement and I'm proud of the fact that we're enforcing the country's laws. But, you know, you asked a question about this 5-year-old kid and I see this story and I'm a father of a 5-year-old, actually, a 5-year-old little boy, and I think to myself, "Oh my god, this is terrible. How did we arrest a 5-year-old?" Well, I do a little bit more follow-up research and what I find is that the 5-year-old was not arrested, that his dad was an illegal alien. And then they went when they went to arrest his illegal alien father, the father ran. So the story is that ICE detained a 5-year-old. Well, what are they supposed to do? Are they supposed to let a 5-year-old child freeze to death? Are

5:35 they not supposed to arrest an illegal alien in the United States of America? Right. What were they supposed to do? just okay. I guess there's no one to take him because we are arresting this dad and can't find another parent willing to claim him. Fox News reports that they did not know whether anyone else was home at the time, that they had the child knock on the door to see if anyone else, family of his, was home and that there wasn't. Um, so we don't know exactly how that went down, but we do believe now that the mother was inside and that she wouldn't come out and that she wouldn't claim the child. And the ICE agents were now in a position of saying, "Will you take your kid?" No.

6:18 And then you heard the school board lady say, "Well, they I was ready to take him." Mary Granland is her name, school board chair for Columbia Heights Public School. She was talking about how the little boy Liam's mother was at the window watching and didn't open the door. She said, "I would have taken the child." You're an idiot. They can't just give this little boy to anyone. All right? Like, can you imagine? This is how he got in trouble under the Biden years where he was allowing like some random adults to take custody of the children coming across the border with their families that he could say that there wasn't separation, but there was separation. And some kids had been getting sent with their families um across the border thinking that they'd have a better shot of just being left here that we wouldn't bother them. And then we were putting them with child molesters. This is a story we covered

7:10 here on the MK show. So they cannot just give the child even to a school board member. By the way, they can be perverts too. Um I'm not saying this particular woman. I'm just saying in general they don't know. And there are protocols. And by the way, these are the same protocols that were eventually put into place under other previous administrations. So they say you got two options and we've covered this many times. This is what they do when they deport an illegal who's here. They say you you the parent can give me an adult to whom I can give the child or you can take him with you.

7:42 Those are your options. And this father who's now in custody says I want to take him with me. They said fine. That's what happened. Now the father has a lawyer who's saying no no no no. He was an asylum seeker not an illegal. And technically, if you're here validly claiming asylum, or not validly, they'll determine whether it's valid in a court. But if you if you get to a point of entry, you have to you have to assert that you're here seeking asylum at a valid point of entry in the in the United States and then they give you a certain like paperwork and so on, and then you can be here for a certain amount of time until you get your asylum hearing. Usually, if it gets and then it gets denied, you usually have to get out, but they don't leave. Well, under Joe Biden, he issued this new edict, you may remember, right after he took office, saying, "Now, I have something called the CBP1 app, and you can fill

8:29 out an application under this app if you're an illegal, and you can cross the border, and you can say that you're seeking asylum, and for 2 years, we won't deport you. We'll treat you as an asylum seeker, and we'll adjudicate your claim, and then technically, you wouldn't be here illegally." Well, that was in 2023 ultimately when he issued that. It would have expired by its terms in 2025. But when Trump took office in 2024, well, he was he won in 2024. He took office in January 2025, he canled that order. Trump wiped the whole thing out saying, "Nope, we're not doing that anymore. Um, enjoy your previous claims of asylum, but they're done." It led to an ongoing class action lawsuit seeking nationwide class action saying you can't terminate early. By the way, it was about to terminate anyway.

9:16 It only went for two years. It started in 23. And uh they sought a class certification. These immigrants saying you can't just terminate it overnight. And they've recently moved for summary judgement in their favor, which was denied. That was denied. So they did not get summary judgment in their favor. So, under either the terms of that CPB asylum given by Joe Biden, which would have expired in two years, and certainly by what President Trump did, which was to yank it for everybody as soon as he got into office, these guys are not valid asylum seekers. He said to all of you, "That's done. I'm not honoring that. Get out." He said, "You can use the CBP app. We will give you a plane ticket for you and your family to go back to your country of origin, and we'll also give you $2,600.

9:59 And on top of that, if you go through this app to depart and take this deal, we will treat you as though you've never done anything unlawful or you've never even tried to get here the next time you properly attempt. All of that has been offered to this man and his son, but Trump somehow is the demon. Homeman is the demon. ICE is the demon. It's a lie. It's a manipulation. A new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this be the year you decide to talk to somebody from Birch Gold Group? You know, you've been thinking about it. They use an educated approach with a deep understanding of macroeconomics.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Megyn Kelly Brings the TRUTH on Viral "Five-Year-Old Detained By ICE" Story and Sets Record Straight"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), J.D. Vance (Guest), Mary Granland (Guest).

What is "Megyn Kelly Brings the TRUTH on Viral "Five-Year-Old Detained By ICE" Story and Sets Record Straight" about?

The discussion centers around the controversy surrounding the detainment of a five-year-old boy by ICE while attempting to arrest his undocumented father. Megyn Kelly refutes claims made by school officials that the child was used as bait for the arrest, asserting that the narrative pushed by critics of ICE is misleading and not supported by the facts.

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

3 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Mary Granland, CBP1 app. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Megyn Kelly Brings the TRUTH on Viral "Five-Year-Old Detained By ICE" Story and Sets Record Straight"?

The episode runs 12 min; the transcript is about 2,220 words in 18 timestamped sections.

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