New Reporting on MYSTERIOUS Kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's Mom, w/ Jim Fitzgerald and Randy Sutton

What this episode is about

Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie, has been reported missing under mysterious circumstances, with evidence of a possible kidnapping emerging from her Arizona home. Law enforcement has discovered blood and signs of forced entry, prompting an investigation as authorities await further DNA results to determine the nature of her disappearance.

Key takeaways

• Blood inside the house and a trail outside? That's not a cozy Sunday morning scenario.
• Sheriff's mixed messages hint at a grim reality: hope clashing with evidence.
• Time is crucial; without medication, 'missing person' can quickly turn into 'tragic story.'
• Savannah's call for prayers is a heartfelt reminder: sometimes, hope is all we’ve got.
• Touch DNA remains a wild card; the cloak-and-dagger of modern crime scene investigation.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 6 min speaking
• Jim Fitzgerald (Guest) · 4 min speaking
• Randy Sutton (Guest) · 4 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Nancy Guthrie, Chris Nanos, Savannah Guthrie, Ashley Banfield
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Nancy Guthrie, Chris Nanos, Savannah Guthrie, Ashley Banfield
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Apple Watch, Randy Sutton, James Fitzgerald
4. 9:00 – 12:00: James Fitzgerald, Ashley Banfield
5. 12:00 – 14:36: Savannah Guthrie, Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "New Reporting on MYSTERIOUS Kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's Mom, w/ Jim Fitzgerald and Randy Sutton"

• Case is bizarre and disturbing. Law enforcement sources telling the Los Angeles Times that blood was found inside of her Arizona home alongside signs of forced entry, prompting…

  about Nancy Guthrie · at 0:06

• Today's show host Savannah Guthrie posted on Instagram last night asking for prayers for her mother's safe return, writing, quote, We believe in prayer. We believe in voices raised in.

  about Savannah Guthrie · at 3:47

• Host of the Code Red podcast and Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Lieutenant Randy Sutton. He's also founder of the Wounded Blue. Jim, Randy, welcome to you both. what do you make…

  about Randy Sutton · at 6:35

• 2:00 a.m. going from Saturday into Sunday. What they said was investigators told the outlet that NY's Apple Watch was left inside of her home.

  about Apple Watch · at 8:28

• Birch Gold can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold. Just text MK to the number 989898 to receive your free info kit on gold.

  about Birch Gold Group · at 13:54

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Missing person / alleged abduction victim (referenced) · 3 mentions · first at 0:01
  Central subject of the segment: authorities and media discuss evidence suggesting she was abducted from her Arizona home and the urgency due to needed medication.
• Chris Nanos — Person · Referenced official spokesperson / law enforcement lead · 2 mentions · first at 0:50
  As Pima County Sheriff, he provides official updates, discusses DNA evidence, and issues a plea to whoever may be holding Nancy Guthrie.
  Leading across the entryway and into the driveway. During an interview with NewsNation this morning, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos would not confirm the reports of blood. But…
• Savannah Guthrie — Person · Referenced public figure / family member appealing to public · 3 mentions · first at 0:01
  Identified as the Today Show host and Nancy Guthrie's daughter; her Instagram post is cited as a public plea for prayers and her mother’s return.
• James Fitzgerald — Person · Panel guest / referenced expert · 2 mentions · first at 6:29
  Brought in as a former FBI supervisory special agent and profiler to interpret investigative signals, media strategy, and offender behavior.
  Which would be a very good investigative piece of information. Jim, yeah, I've worked a few case even few cases even in retirement of homicides with these Apple watches or…
• Randy Sutton — Person · Panel guest / referenced law-enforcement expert · 2 mentions · first at 6:40
  Provides analysis of the sheriff’s communications and the operational search response; identified as a Las Vegas Metropolitan Police lieutenant and founder of The Wounded Blue.
• Ashley Banfield — Person · Referenced interviewer / media host · 3 mentions · first at 0:46
  Mentioned as having conducted a lengthy interview with Sheriff Nanos on her podcast, which is used to interpret his tone and concerns.
  Bit more dire now in the way he's talking about this. That was my impression, too. He did a lengthy interview with Ashley Banfield on her podcast yesterday, Drop Deadad Serious.

Products & tech

• Apple Watch — Product · Case study · 2 mentions · first at 8:20
  Mentioned in the context of the investigation into Nancy Guthrie's disappearance, providing a timeline based on the device's interaction with her pacemaker.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 13:39
  Advertised as a service for diversifying savings into precious metals, particularly gold, during economic uncertainty.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 It is a race against the clock in the search for Nancy Guthrie, mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie. This case is bizarre and disturbing. Law enforcement sources telling the Los Angeles Times that blood was found inside of her Arizona home alongside signs of forced entry, prompting detectives to investigate what they now describe as a quote possible kidnapping or abduction. Fox News reporting this morning that their sources say, quote, "Blood drops were also found leading from the entryway outside down the house's pathway toward the driveway."

0:38 So, both inside the house and a trail leading across the entryway and into the driveway. During an interview with NewsNation this morning, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos would not confirm the reports of blood. But again, those earlier publications are citing law enforcement and said that the DNA results that they have tested so far have come back only belonging to Nancy.

1:06 We're not confirming whether there was blood in the home or any of that. What we're saying is um we do have evidence that we submitted to DNA labs actually through um uh uh other sources that we use and they have confirmed that uh the DNA that we found was in fact uh belonged to um uh uh Nancy the the uh Savannah's mom which which we we were hopeful that it wouldn't that it would give us a different profile than just hers but that's where we're at with the DNA. We have other items that we submit for DNA research and see what that comes up. But that was the first uh submitt we've got back and we'll continue to to wait for lab results. See if we find something else.

1:57 So if those reports are real and and accurate, Nancy Guthrie was bleeding. She was hurt somehow inside the house. She was bleeding as she was taken outside of the house. And so far, no DNA belonging to somebody else. That doesn't mean no one else was there. Just means no one else left DNA, at least not that they've found so far there. Although, you know, with touch DNA being what it is in today's day and age, let's just wait and see on that. I'm sure they did a comprehensive um testing of all the surfaces and certainly anything that was near the blood trail to see whether they could get touch DNA and was this person if they actually took her so careful Brian Coberger like that every inch of their person was covered. The odds are against it. The sheriff confirmed that they are still waiting on the results of additional items that have been tested.

2:52 time remains crucial in this case with the sheriff warning that if Nancy does not get certain medication within 24 hours it could be fatal. I mean he said that yesterday she was taken Saturday night we believe overnight Saturday into Sunday. Um and now here we are Tuesday. He issued a direct plea to whomever may be holding her.

3:13 What would you say to someone who if they're holding Nancy Guthrie right now? What's your message to them?

3:18 Just call us. Let her go. Just call us. U family would tell you there's no questions asked here. Look, if she's alive right now, the the her meds are vital. I can't stress that enough. You know, it's been better than 24 hours. And the family tells us if she doesn't have those meds, it can become fatal. Today's show host Savannah Guthrie posted on Instagram last night asking for prayers for her mother's safe return, writing, quote, "We believe in prayer. We believe in voices raised in unison, in love, in hope. We believe in goodness. We believe in humanity. Above all, we believe in him. We need you.

4:04 Bring her home." We are expecting a press conference from local authorities to take place at 1:30 p.m. Eastern today. And just of note before I bring in my panel, um, you heard the sheriff starting to sound a bit more dire now in in the way he's talking about this. That was my impression, too. He did a lengthy interview with Ashley Banfield on her podcast yesterday, Drop Deadad Serious. And um, he actually used the word dead. He didn't say she's dead, but he used it in a way that was kind of jarring and gave you a bit of a window perhaps into what his uh, worries are, what he's thinking.

4:43 maybe even what his opinion is. I don't know. Here's S three. We also know we have to be careful. I mean, we hope that, you know, it's happened before. The police is the sheriff is, "Oh, we this person's dead and this that and the next thing you know, some hospital calls and says, hey, I think I've got this lady in my hospital room." So, you know, we're never going to give up hope. We That's why you guys are so critical to us. Somebody out there sees something, says maybe they'll see her. We've gotten calls like that. Hey, I think I saw her in Flagstaff. Hey, I think I saw her here. And so, we'll chase those leads down.

5:21 That was pretty interesting where he he's basically saying he doesn't want to say anything about her being dead until he knows for sure. But to me, that sounded an awful lot like somebody who thinks the outcome right now is not good. Um, it's unconfirmed. Obviously, he doesn't know, but he's seen the inside of the house in a way that none of us has and he knows a lot more than he's saying. In fact, he's been, you know, clearly somebody and likely him because he's been the spokesperson for the office told NBC about that blood and uh the LA Times and Fox News has it too about the blood droplets. Uh but then sort of tried to walk it back saying, "If I were asked that by NBC now, I wouldn't confirm it." Well, okay. He's he seems like a very nice guy, but his messaging has been a little inconsistent from place to place. Um, it seems clear that there was blood inside the house, that it was hers, and that it led a

6:14 trail right outside of the house, which is more than likely how they determined this is a crime scene, and this was not somebody who walked off of her own valition. Again, we're going to be having a presser in about an hour and a half, and we will bring you all the latest news from that as it unfolds. Joining me now in the meantime, James Fitzgerald, former FBI supervisory special agent and criminal profiler and host of the Code Red podcast and Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Lieutenant Randy Sutton. He's also founder of the Wounded Blue. Jim, Randy, welcome to you both. Um, what do you make of what we've heard so far? Randy, I'll start with you. Your thoughts?

6:51 Sure thing. So, uh, I watched the presser yesterday. Uh I've been following this case since since it became public and you're you're right in your characterization of the way the sheriff has communicated uh the issues of this case there are a little disjointed but clearly they are um they are taking this really really seriously. They did call in the homicide section. That was very telling in and of itself. Um they did uh say that there was blood evidence and that there that they were treating it like a crime scene. They had the the search and rescue team out there. They were doing physical uh search of the area with with uh uh people on foot using their drones, using their fixed wing aircraft, their helicopters. They did mention that they use they were using their forward-looking infrared which would have a heat signature should they find someone walking or uh or someone laying down somewhere in the area. And all of

7:50 that proved negative. That would be an indication that this uh that that Miss Country was taken somewhere and is now not around that area because they did a pretty thorough search. This is very very troubling. Remember, stranger abductions are very, very rare. So, um, there's going to be a this is a a massive investigation and there's going to be a lot at play here.

8:15 The Daily Mail, just as we came to air, actually citing um, Fox News for this, reporting that Miss Guthy's pacemaker stopped syncing with her Apple Watch in the early hours of Sunday morning around 2:00 a.m. going from Saturday into Sunday. What they said was um investigators told the outlet that NY's Apple Watch was left inside of her home. They write which likely means the device stopped sinking. The devices her pacemaker and the Apple Watch stopped sinking when the pacemaker was out of range from the watch. So it doesn't mean she died. It means she with her pacemaker was taken too far away from the Apple Watch for it to sink any longer. And that happened around 2 am, which would be a very good investigative um piece of information. Jim,

9:04 yeah, I've worked a few case even few cases even in retirement of homicides with these Apple watches or similar watches if they're found on the victim or certainly through uh through the technology through the cloud whatever they can really help determine uh not only movement and locations but also uh time of death. I suppose it makes uh you know forensic pathologist jobs a little bit easier in that way in terms of determining that. But to go back to the sheriff, uh uh and many times in the FBI when we were working these real-time cases, we would be as a profiler, we would be consulting with uh the spokespersons for different departments, and we would not tell them what to say, of course, but we would certainly guide them and do certain uh uh uh language usages. And especially as a linguist, I determined even better along the years how to do this. And you don't want to be inflammatory. You don't want to be

9:54 overly accusatory. You want to almost make it sound like look maybe someone made a mistake here one or more people and just you know drop the person off leave them go sometimes as kids as you would know Megan or teenagers it's not too often we get 84 year old people like this the blood is not a good sign either whether it was art arterial bleeding meaning it's much more serious or not so far we just have drops so uh she's obviously in some level of danger but hopefully the people who are in fact have her in custody taking care of her know this and are keeping her alive. Um, and I'll add to here too, Megan, that uh there whoever is has done this are listening to us, I don't mean us personally at this very moment, but they are following the media on this. If you have even a a modeicum of sophistication to you when committing these types of crimes, uh, you're going to be following the media to find out what they know and

10:47 get everything possible to help protect yourself and and carry out the crime. and let's hope that's all they want to do is carry out the crime, get some money, and and and perhaps move on from there

10:57 and not harm her. Um Randy, what what do you make of the fact that yesterday the sheriff um started off with a presser in the morning where he offered some detail and then as the day went on seemed to be amping up his his messaging around this using the word kidnapping, using the word taken, abducted and um obviously I mean I think it was him who who leaked the stuff about the blood to the LA Times and and possibly Fox because he's been the main spokesperson. I'm just assuming. I could be wrong. Uh, but in any event, we saw more and more of him. I mean, I saw him everywhere. He was on CBS. He was on ABC. He was on NBC. He was uh on Fox. He was with Ashley Banfield. He was with some other podcasts. Like, clearly, he made the decision to try to get out anywhere and everywhere that asked for him.

11:44 Yeah. and and the terms that he used did escalate from uh he was he was couching his terms a little bit more um diplomatically during his press conference, but uh as the day went on, there were more and more details that leaked out. Um

12:03 so why why to tell you the truth? Um I don't know why. I I I I can't even begin to guess other than um in in watching his his uh press and his interviews. Um he's not he's not a very polished individual when it comes down to communicating u what he should be communicating to the public reference this reference this uh crime. Um, I I'm I'm hesitant to be too critical of him, but um I've seen much more professional uh you know, individuals be giving out information when it comes down to a serious issue like this. I I I mean I would imagine if what they really need is press coverage, which clearly they've made a decision they need press coverage, um it won't be long now before we hear from Savannah because if there's one person involved in this case who can get the media to run a sound bite on every single television station there is and to be quoted in all the newspapers, it's Savannah Guthrie.

13:12 Um, but what a terrible position for her to have to be in to, you know, have to come out in front of the cameras and make a comment right now when she doesn't know what's happened to her mother. I, my heart goes out to her. International disputes, inflation, rising national debt, digital currency. There is a never-ending list of reasons that gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years. and a never- ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals with Birch Gold Group. Gold can thrive during uncertainty, which is why it's a crucial part of a balance strategy. It gives you peace of mind given all the events that could impact the US economy. See if holding gold in a tax sheltered retirement account is right for you.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "New Reporting on MYSTERIOUS Kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's Mom, w/ Jim Fitzgerald and Randy Sutton"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Jim Fitzgerald (Guest), Randy Sutton (Guest).

What is "New Reporting on MYSTERIOUS Kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's Mom, w/ Jim Fitzgerald and Randy Sutton" about?

Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie, has been reported missing under mysterious circumstances, with evidence of a possible kidnapping emerging from her Arizona home. Law enforcement has discovered blood and signs of forced entry, prompting an investigation as authorities await further DNA results to determine the nature of her disappearance.

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

8 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Nancy Guthrie, Chris Nanos, Savannah Guthrie, Apple Watch, James Fitzgerald, Randy Sutton. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "New Reporting on MYSTERIOUS Kidnapping of Savannah Guthrie's Mom, w/ Jim Fitzgerald and Randy Sutton"?

The episode runs 15 min; the transcript is about 2,569 words in 22 timestamped sections.

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