Notable Observations About Mystery Man's Gun and Backpack at Nancy Guthrie's Home, with LE Experts

What this episode is about

The discussion centers around the ongoing search for a suspect involved in a significant crime connected to Nancy Guthrie's home, emphasizing the widespread public and media engagement, including a White House statement urging Americans to assist the FBI. Experts share their insights on the suspect's current state of distress and the unique identifying features that may lead to his capture, highlighting the urgency and intensity surrounding this high-profile case.

Key takeaways

• When the FBI director and the president team up, you know it's not just a regular Tuesday.
• This suspect's got more eyes on him than a viral TikTok dance—good luck blending in now!
• Feeling the heat? History shows panic often leads to confessions, especially when family is involved.
• Don't underestimate the power of a peculiar mustache; it could turn casual dinners into tip-off moments.
• A case this high profile can turn friends into informants faster than you can say 'soul patch.'

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 8 min speaking
• Chad (Guest) · 3 min speaking
• Moren (Guest) · 2 min speaking
• Steve (Host) · 1 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: FBI
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Nancy Guthrie, Charlie Kirk
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Exxon, Nancy Guthrie
4. 9:00 – 12:00: Nancy Guthrie
5. 12:00 – 13:40: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Notable Observations About Mystery Man's Gun and Backpack at Nancy Guthrie's Home, with LE Experts"

• Knowledge of this suspect to please call the FBI who continue to assist state and local authorities. The prayers of the entire White House are with the Guthrie family. that's yet another reason why it's only a matter of time.

  about Nancy Guthrie · at 0:07

• So now what like if I think back with Tyler Robinson, who's accused of killing Charlie Kirk, it didn't take long. He felt the heat. He saw that picture everywhere. Now, in his case that they also had his gun, which was.

  about Charlie Kirk · at 3:19

• Yeah, same. We talked earlier this week with Jim about the kidnapping of the Exxon president. He was president of the company. I actually learned more about.

  about Exxon · at 7:33

• There's a never- ending list of reasons gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years, and a never-ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious.

  about Birch Gold Group · at 12:33

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Victim / missing person at center of discussion · 3 mentions · first at 5:34
  The segment focuses on a high-profile suspected kidnapping/violent crime involving Nancy Guthrie; hosts debate likelihood of survival, motive, and suspect capture scenarios.
• Charlie Kirk — Person · Referenced victim in an analogy / prior case comparison · 1 mention · first at 3:25
  Mentioned as part of a comparison to another case where a suspect felt public pressure and confessed; used to reason about how the current suspect might be identified.

Companies & orgs

• FBI — Company · Referenced organization · 1 mention · first at 1:36
  Mentioned in the context of a criminal investigation and public appeal for information.
  I wanted to get this in. The White House has issued a statement. It reads as follows. The president encourages any American across the country with any knowledge of this…
• Exxon — Company · Case study · 2 mentions · first at 7:43
  Referenced in a historical context regarding a kidnapping case involving a company executive.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 12:44
  Promoted as a service for diversifying savings into precious metals, especially gold, during economic uncertainty.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 I wanted to get this in. The White House has issued a statement. It reads as follows. The president encourages any American across the country with any knowledge of this suspect to please call the FBI who continue to assist state and local authorities. The prayers of the entire White House are with the Guthrie family. I mean, that's yet another reason why it's only a matter of time. You've got everybody from the FBI director to the president of the United States. I mean, NBC is going to blanket this guy's pictures and you know, that's their their nightly news at least still has a decent size audience. I'm sure their Today Show audience is inflated this week for obvious reasons. But everybody, all the podcast, like this is not your average case. I can't remember a case with this much notoriety in recent history where we were all working together to find a per. This guy's got a noose around his neck, Moren. It's just

0:48 a matter of time before we tighten it. I love it. and he's backed into a corner and he's stressed beyond belief and he's freaking the hell out and good. I'm glad. I hope he suffers. Same. Don't you think, Chad? Like this guy right now, there is this man. This man exists. This man has committed a terrible crime. The exact nature of it we have yet to determine. But this guy knows this is happening just as the three of us do. And somewhere he's having a holy effing s moment thinking, "What do I do now?" I bet he's really regret having that crusty ass mustache and thing under his lip that was shown because that's going to be a tall tale sign to give him away. Not too many people I know have those types of mustaches and you know someone's going to be looking at sitting at the dinner table tonight looking across being like

1:36 hm might be time to call 1800 FBI. Could you explain that to me? What are you what are you and I see I can see he's got facial hair but what exactly are you referring to? So, there's another image where you see kind of I don't even know what it's what's it called. The little small mustache kind of or the little

1:52 It's not exactly a goatee, right? Yes. What is a patch? What do you call it, Steve?

1:57 It's some sort of a patch. I don't want to use the term that was used in a soul patch. That's what we call it. Okay. My team is a lot hippier than we are. Uh soul patch. S O L.

2:08 Right. So, I mean, we'll try to get the picture up while you're talking, but you can see it. You can see that there's hair like that little round circle for the mouth in the ski mask does reveal hair above and below.

2:20 Yeah. Um I basically had to take the video and I had to pause it the the video about if you pause it about the two second mark and zoom in you can see it. Yep. Right there.

2:33 Oh, this one. Yep. Yeah. Kind of looks like more of the little patch. That's That's a good catch. Yeah. Yeah. Which means he has facial hair above and below, but I will say, not to bring it back to the brother-in-law, but he's got a beard and a mustache. And if you have just a beard, it can go all the way up there. Like I don't know, we're only seeing a patch, but it doesn't mean it's it is only a patch. Like it could be full facial hair to the left and the right. that because the the mouth is just a circle just cutting out just like you just see the bottom of the the circle.

3:12 What could be there? Again, I'm not blaming the brother-in-law. I'm just saying he's been mentioned so many times. We're obviously looking at his facial hair,

3:18 right? Um so now what what like if if I think back with Tyler Robinson, uh who's accused of killing Charlie Kirk, it didn't take long. He felt the heat. He saw that picture everywhere. Now, in his case that they also had his gun, which was very distinctive, but he panicked and he confessed. His parents saw the sneakers. You mentioned the sneakers. They recognized those. They recognized he had the hat, his build. I mean, clearly, you know, your child's build. And this guy may have a mother out there who recognizes his build, too, even if he's not married.

3:53 And they contacted him to say, the dad said, "Send us a picture of your gun." Because the dad was really suspicious. and he wound up confessing to his to a his his family and then they brought in a family friend who brought him into the cops. So, how do you see this going, Chad?

4:15 Probably about four different ways, I would say. I think Marine would agree. You're either going to have this thing turn into a cold case, worst case scenario, we don't want to happen. Two, he comes forward and says, "The gig's up. Maybe I'll get a lesser sentence depending on what he's done with Nancy, whether she's alive or deceased. Uh, you know, I I am getting charged, but maybe I I won't see the death penalty if I come in and confess. Someone's going to recognize him and call in and report him. Or the last case scenario, um, well, I guess there's two more in a sense. Um, well, I guess last case scenario is he self- terminate, self- terminates himself,

4:55 unalivives himself, which I hope doesn't happen. Yes. No. Don't be a coward. We're never going to know.

5:02 No. Do you want to hear what I hope happens? Then we're never going to know. Best case scenario.

5:06 Yeah. He starts acting crazy. Everyone calls the police. Seven people he knows calls the police. Three departments arrive, all with police dogs. They unleash the dogs who rip him to shreds on film and we can all watch it over and over.

5:23 Yeah. Yes. Yes. You want to see him suffer, but not without finding Nancy first. I mean, like there is still a scenario. You look at Savannah's statement today just immediately, you know, after the pictures came out. We believe she's still alive. like we we are cynical law enforcement and news people who don't have a direct relation to the victim. So, I think it's a lot easier for us to be like the odds are she's no longer alive. You know, we've covered enough of these stories or been involved in solving these cases that that's where we went. And Savannah, if she weren't so close to it, would probably be where we are. But she has all cause to keep hope alive. And we are not we we don't know. We could be wrong.

6:08 Nancy Guthrie could be alive. And this could be the guy who has her. He We don't know why. We don't know why there wasn't a ransom if assuming he wasn't connected to the Bitcoin scam. Why there wasn't a ransom. Why there's been no demands. There's been nothing whatsoever. Hasn't even been like from a psycho. I feel like from a psycho, we would have gotten Savannah marry me or like I'm gonna get somebody else next unless I get Savannah to do the following things. Like the psycho can't really hold it together for 10 days, stay underground, make no demands, you know, I don't that that's just feeling less likely to me. Um,

6:47 murder for hire that that could be good because somebody's going to talk. Murder, murder for hire rec requires a conspiracy with multiple people and someone could panic right about now given how the heat just got turned up and talk. What What were you saying, Moren?

7:04 I was just saying that is this the type of person that's going to feed and care for an elderly person who's wounded. I mean,

7:14 yeah, those two don't seem to coexist to me, but I I I understand her believing in miracles. I would be I would be on my knees storming the heavens praying for a miracle in a in a situation like this. And I've prayed a lot for S Savannah's mom.

7:33 Yeah, same. We we talked earlier this week with Jim about the kidnapping of the Exxon um president. He was president of the company. I actually learned more about that yesterday. It was 1992 and the guy was like a real regular Joe. He didn't want a guard. He didn't want to like live his life under, you know, security threat all the time having a guard drive him and his wife out to dinner. So, he said no to that. He drove himself around in a station wagon and um was pretty well known and they the the two kidnappers, one was former law enforcement and his wife, they moved his newspaper down closer to the road that morning because he would come out of his house himself and grab his newspaper and they moved it closer to the bottom of his driveway so that they could get him more easily. And they grabbed him one morning and he did fight and they shot him in the arm and they got him into their

8:32 getaway vehicle and they put him in a box like a it sounded like a casket almost like a a small box shot injured and then put the box in storage and I guess it got to like 120 degrees. It was a very hot time of year and he died within 4 days. Um, but they didn't tell the family that. They kept the ruse going for some 54 days and it was an $18 million demand and Exxon was going to pay it. Like they they wanted their executive back and but they were they had no trouble with pro proof of life, you know, and there was a negotiation like they there wasn't radio silence like this. They did know that their charge had died, but they were playing the ruse to the end. Here there's been none of that, you know, none of that.

9:21 like Clay, it's like radio silence other than the weird Bitcoin thing that that offered absolutely no proof of life. And so what's the endgame of this endgame of this person? It it it keeps leading me back to this is about ending Nancy Guthrie. It's not about getting a ransom payment.

9:42 I hope I and the way he's it's just very amateurish. just does not look like a trained professional type of assassin. You I mean I who carries their their pistol like that. Um it just Yeah. I mean it's just very just kind of thrown together. Um

10:04 on the That's interesting. Wait, Chad, so you're you're saying that like that the way he has that pistol suggests to you this is an

10:10 Oh, one I mean unless he's just so professional he's just trying to throw everyone off to make it look that way, but no. I nobody straps a holster, you know, to them like that. Now, granted, now if you're carrying concealed, I I carry personally concealed, you know, in my appendix area, but I wouldn't carry an open carry firearm like that, hook my holster to the front. That's just not a way someone carries. That's not a standard practice to carry a a a firearm at all. Mhm. Clearly the guy was not worried about the neighbor seeing him.

10:45 Moren with a ski mask on and his gun visible to all with his gloves in the middle of a Tucson evening like he he knew that these are acre lock acre, you know, size properties and at 2:30 in the morning or 1:47 the odds were against people seeing him. But it's still pretty risky.

11:06 I don't think it's that risky. No. No. It's pitch blackout. They have no street lights. They have they they don't even they even discourage people from turning their porch lights on because they all want to see the stars. It's it's pitch black. There's plenty of room. I do think you'd be if if you fired around, someone would hear it though. I I even though you have an acre um because I've, you know, I've been to a place in Wisconsin a lot. I've spent a lot of time there and you can hear when someone's firing a weapon within a couple of, you know, within an acre or two easily. But if you have a fan on in your room while you're sleeping, you're you won't hear anything.

11:46 Mhm. There's been no reports of that whatsoever. Nothing about a possible possible shooting or hearing sounds of that. There was there were reports of increased coyote activity, but it was after the night that Nancy died. It was not Sorry, she didn't die. It disappeared. Um, it wasn't that night. It was like several nights later. So, it could potentially be related, but I don't know if you've ever had coyotes around your house. They they it sounds god awful when they're mating. It really sounds like some sort of a mass murder is happening outside your door. Could wake up the whole neighborhood. Doesn't mean anything's happening to a human.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Notable Observations About Mystery Man's Gun and Backpack at Nancy Guthrie's Home, with LE Experts"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Chad (Guest), Moren (Guest), Steve (Host).

What is "Notable Observations About Mystery Man's Gun and Backpack at Nancy Guthrie's Home, with LE Experts" about?

The discussion centers around the ongoing search for a suspect involved in a significant crime connected to Nancy Guthrie's home, emphasizing the widespread public and media engagement, including a White House statement urging Americans to assist the FBI. Experts share their insights on the suspect's current state of distress and the unique identifying features that may lead to his capture,…

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

5 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Nancy Guthrie, FBI, Exxon, Charlie Kirk. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Notable Observations About Mystery Man's Gun and Backpack at Nancy Guthrie's Home, with LE Experts"?

The episode runs 14 min; the transcript is about 2,497 words in 31 timestamped sections.

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