The Latest on Potential BITCOIN Activity and Possible Ransom in Nancy Guthrie Case, with FBI Experts

What this episode is about

The discussion centers on ongoing investigations related to a Bitcoin account possibly linked to a ransom in the Nancy Guthrie case, highlighting conflicting reports about activity and large deposits. Experts emphasize that while they have limited visibility into the investigation, the FBI is actively analyzing the situation and gathering crucial information on the Bitcoin transactions.

Key takeaways

• Bitcoin's traceability is like a suspense thriller; you never know who's watching until they strike!
• A $300 deposit may seem trivial, but in the world of Bitcoin, it could be a clever FBI bait.
• Harvey's cryptic comments are the perfect cliffhanger for viewers - just enough information to bait curiosity.
• In crypto investigations, every small transaction is a breadcrumb; the tiniest details can lead to big discoveries.
• The FBI's Bitcoin squad could give Hollywood's best detectives a run for their money – real-life mystery unfolds here!

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 8 min speaking
• Jim (Guest) · 4 min speaking
• Moren (Guest) · 1 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Bitcoin, FBI
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Bitcoin
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Bitcoin, Nancy Guthrie
4. 12:00 – 12:59: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "The Latest on Potential BITCOIN Activity and Possible Ransom in Nancy Guthrie Case, with FBI Experts"

• Deposited. And then you have you Harvey saying, I refuse to comment on the amount that went in there, but there is a report of $6 million being transferred into a Bitcoin account last night. Not.

  about Bitcoin · at 0:12

• The outside. We're hearing truncated and partial versions of everything that the FBI knows for fact. It doesn't mean by fact they have all the answers to it, but they have the a lot more pieces of their puzzle put together than we do.

  about FBI · at 1:37

• Of activity somehow. But also, even with this video being released, we know that video person is the abductor. Why aren't there more proofs of life being put out there or even requested?

  about Nancy Guthrie · at 4:33

• Gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years, and a never- ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals with Birch Gold…

  about Birch Gold Group · at 11:54

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Referenced victim / central figure in the kidnapping case being discussed · 1 mention · first at 7:03
  Her alleged abduction and the ransom/Bitcoin demands are the core real-world stakes; discussion centers on her safety, proof of life, and family decisions.

Companies & orgs

• FBI — Company · Key investigator · 2 mentions · first at 1:42
  Primary law enforcement agency involved in the kidnapping case, focusing on Bitcoin transactions.
• TMZ — Company · News outlet · 3 mentions
  Reported on the Bitcoin deposit in the kidnapping case, providing secondhand information.
  Into this account as a test deposit or however they would look at it that would make perfect sense we're only getting that reported you know secondhand we'll say that from TMZ…

Concepts & topics

• Bitcoin — Concept · Core topic · 10 mentions · first at 0:02
  Central to the discussion about ransom payments and FBI investigations in the kidnapping case.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 12:03
  Mentioned in a promotional segment about diversifying savings into precious metals.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 You tell me what you think is happening with the Bitcoin account where you have Harvey saying, "I see activity, but I'm not going to say what I see." You have the local outlet saying, "We see activity and it's $300 that was deposited." And then you have you Harvey saying, "I refuse to comment on the amount that went in there, but there is a report of $6 million being transferred into a Bitcoin account last night." Not. It has not been confirmed that it's the Bitcoin account, but there is a report that $6 million was transferred into a Bitcoin account last night. Harvey not shedding any light on it. Jim, you want to take a shot fits on anything, you know, happening here? Do you have any idea?

0:47 Well, first of all, I want to thank you for coining a new term for us profilers, quote creepy ass video. We're going to add that to our lexicon of uh of uh of uh assessments from now on. And also I'm aware of uh and I want to answer your question, but I understand in the last six months to a year, Netflix when a series comes to them, the protagonist, someone in the show uh you know has to like every half hour summarize it for the viewers because they have ADHD either on their phone at the same time. They have to summarize the facts of either the real or fictional story they're telling. So, if this thing ever goes to a series or movie, and I hope it does, and with a happy ending with uh uh Mrs. Guthrie being, you know, fully recovered, there's going to have to be a lot of explanations because even listening to you for the last half hour, Megan, I'm I'm still a bit confused about all the Bitcoin stuff. But the

1:35 important part is, you know, we're on the outside. We're hearing truncated and partial versions of everything that the FBI knows for fact. It doesn't mean by fact they have all the answers to it, but they have the a lot more pieces of their puzzle put together than we do. And they have experts full-time looking at this Bitcoin stuff, which I'm learning a lot more, you know, in the last few days uh about how that whole cryptocurrency uh concept even works. Uh seems like it is traceable when people start removing money, but not up until that point. So, and the FBI has ways of doing it. So, uh there there's a lot of uh you know, jets and floatsome going around here in this case. I think the FBI again they're going to have this segmented like I said before uh on this task force there are multiple squads or units set up and they're all I guarantee there's a bit quad bitcoin squad they're just focusing on this part of it there's

2:27 someone else just focusing on the email address of these alleged uh ransom uh communications that came in and of course others with the family others with the material now on this video I think the prime aspect of the investigators at this point they're looking at everything we just said but They're going to focus on the video from yesterday. That is a treasure trove of of visual information, but also behavioral and we can get a little bit into, you know, down the line what what folks should be looking for.

2:53 Well, wait a second. I I do want to talk about the video, but but the reason I want to stay on the Bitcoin, Jim, and the reason I went to you first is yesterday we talked about tickling the wire.

3:02 Yeah. And if you tell me whether that $300 deposited, if it's if that's what it is, KGUN is saying it's 300 bucks. Harvey saying, "I'm not going to say because I told people I wouldn't say." So to me, the way it reads to me as a reporter is Harvey agreed not to reveal any specific ins and outs of the Bitcoin account, but KGUN apparently did not agree to that. And they're telling us that what was deposited into the bad guy, and this is may or may not be the kidnapper, but it's definitely the ransom demander. Um, they're saying it was a $300 deposit.

3:32 And you tell me whether that would be something the FBI would do to see maybe maybe what happens is when there's a deposit in your Bitcoin account, you get an alert. You don't know how much it is, but you click on something that makes you identifiable that makes you know you trackable now to the FBI. And to the first thing I thought was you're tickling the wire thing.

3:53 Yeah. And I brought that term up the other day with you and I I appreciate you bringing out here again. That is something that's possible here. it's being and what I've said in so many words are certainly intimated um and it's probably been happening all along but doing things not just reactively on the part of the family and the FBI but proactively and if it is this $300 or whatever the amount may be somehow going into this account as a as a test deposit or however they would look at it that would make perfect sense uh we're only getting that reported you know secondhand we'll say that from TMZ uh so we don't know for a fact that that's actually what happened But it certainly wouldn't surprise me if that's something the FBI is doing to generate some sort of activity somehow. But also, even with this video being released, we know that video person is the uh abductor. Why aren't there more proofs proofs of life

4:43 being put out there or even requested? So, a lot of stuff going on here. And uh the Bitcoin part of it may wind up resolving this matter, but I still think it's going to be other more uh gumshoot type work that we can talk about later. I mean, you tell me, Moren, whether you think that's the FBI because who else would be putting $300? Nobody has that Bitcoin address other than the person who wrote it demanding $6 million, law enforcement, and now three news organizations. And it's not going to be the three news organizations making a they would not mess with any sort of thing around this. I I'm I'm sure. So, it's it's got to be it's got to be the FBI, does it not?

5:22 Well, I agree. It's a there's a good chance it's the FBI. And my understanding is with a Bitcoin account or Bitco Bitcoin wallet, you don't always get alerts unless you have a service that provides alerts and you have in fact signed up for those alerts. There would really be no way to tell that unless you put money in. Fingers crossed. Let's hope that whoever this person is does exactly what you said and I'm just going to log in and see if it's $6 million or 300 bucks, you know? So I I think it is a way to

5:58 um you know what we've seen here over and over in many different ways in all on down all different kinds of lanes is attempts to open the lines of communication between the family and law enforcement as one unit and the perpetrators of both of these um crimes.

6:18 Well, here's the other thing. What if it's not $300? What if KGUN is wrong? And what if this $6 million transfer in Bitcoin that's been documented? We and we don't know whether this was deposited into the Bitcoin account. What if they did pay? What if they paid the ransom after the deadline? Given how hot this case got yesterday, the prospect of Oh my god. Now we see there is a man for sure. He's out there. He's panicked. We're going to give him his money as like because we talked last when we hung up yesterday when we said goodbye to each other. Now that this guy's face is everywhere, albeit behind a mask, what's he going to do? Is he going to panic? Is Nancy Guthrie, if she's still alive, in greater danger right now? And I just wonder whether if I'm the Guthrie family at that point, I say, "I'll pay it. Put it in the account. I don't care. It's a small price to me, especially with all

7:16 these rich friends. And Savannah's rich, too. Um, I'm gonna pay it and I don't care whether it's a fraudster. It's a it's an insurance policy. I mean that does that how does that grab you, Moren?

7:27 I agree. And and when you think of how we felt yesterday, all of us collectively and I mean I'm sure the family, law enforcement for sure, all of us watching those videos live coming on and you're saying, "Hey, there's another one. There's another one." What was happening? Our adrenaline levels were just rushing. our our our veins were surging with adrenaline and so were those in law enforcement. Now they've got a guy who's you know who they're looking at whose phone pinged in the area at one point or another and you know so the Guthri were feeling the exact same thing. They were all feeling this rush of of something's got to be done. You know I mean your brain screams that in your head. So I could easily see a scenario where they would in fact pay that money just because they got caught up in the emotion that so many of us were trying to just slow it down, simmer down. But you don't have that luxury

8:23 when it's your loved one. And I can also see why they wouldn't want it publicized if they did pay because whenever you pay the ransom, you're basically inviting more kidnappings. I mean there there would be push back from from many uh to pay it because in a way you endanger others who are in the public eye and their family. It's not your fault but paying the ransom does have the unfortunate side effect of endangering others because it rewards terrible behavior, terrible criminal behavior. Marielen, you're an expert in trying to figure out the profiles of these people who do this.

9:02 And I wonder now having heard we don't know whether the ransom notes for short form that's what we're calling them are in fact from the abductor. Uh we do know there's an abductor beyond doubt now. I mean we have his picture but having heard what's in the ransom notes which Harvey Levan has been repeatedly describing as from someone who is intelligent that they are well written that there are no grammatical errors. And then you see this guy yesterday who like saunters up to the nest cam. Doesn't seem to have a clear plan. Kind of messes with it a little with his gloved hand. Does that doesn't work. It doesn't come off. Like he hasn't thought about it prior to getting there. Then tries to cover it up with vegetation.

9:47 I don't Is are these two things consistent in your mind? And have you been thinking at all about a profile for this guy who who took her? So, that's a great question. Um, I think it's possible it could be the same person, the fact that he walked up there and what was really striking to me, uh, because it's hard to know, is this a really good writer? Is this someone who's really articulate when he puts pen to paper, but the comfort level that he seemed to show, at least in my opinion, um, he was very casual. He didn't seem to be um, nervous. He just seemed to um to walk up and and to be comfortable that knowing that within moments he was going to get into the home and commit one of the most violent crimes we know of which is kidnapping. And you did not see if he was feeling stress, if he was feeling anxiety, it didn't come through in his behavior. And I thought that was very interesting. And that could be part

10:49 of his personality makeup. It could also be part of the fact that he's thought this through through and there's c a certain amount of of planning and preparation that he went through. Now whether or not we can extrapolate that and say he's also a a good writer, he's not a good writer, I think what we could say is that this is someone um who probably is fairly manipulative, someone that um lacks lacks the um ability to empathize with the victim and what he's about to do. Mhm.

11:22 So would there be a willingness on his part to send those notes about the ransom that would be extremely painful to the family as another form of of of just extreme um violence towards the family or extreme cruel treatment? I could see that happening, but I'm not at the point right now that I'd say that they were he's one and the same or totally different. International disputes, inflation, rising national debt, digital currency. There's a never- ending list of reasons gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years, and a never- ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals with Birch Gold Group. Gold can thrive during uncertainty, which is why it's a crucial part of a balanced strategy. It gives you peace of mind given all the events that could impact the US economy. See if holding gold in a tax sheltered retirement account is right for you. Birch Gold can help you

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "The Latest on Potential BITCOIN Activity and Possible Ransom in Nancy Guthrie Case, with FBI Experts"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Jim (Guest), Moren (Guest).

What is "The Latest on Potential BITCOIN Activity and Possible Ransom in Nancy Guthrie Case, with FBI Experts" about?

The discussion centers on ongoing investigations related to a Bitcoin account possibly linked to a ransom in the Nancy Guthrie case, highlighting conflicting reports about activity and large deposits. Experts emphasize that while they have limited visibility into the investigation, the FBI is actively analyzing the situation and gathering crucial information on the Bitcoin transactions.

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

5 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Bitcoin, Nancy Guthrie, FBI, TMZ. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "The Latest on Potential BITCOIN Activity and Possible Ransom in Nancy Guthrie Case, with FBI Experts"?

The episode runs 13 min; the transcript is about 2,424 words in 20 timestamped sections.

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