Why Timeline Changed Around Nancy Guthrie's Disappearance, with Ashleigh Banfield

What this episode is about

The discussion centers around the shifting timeline regarding Nancy Guthrie's disappearance, highlighting inconsistencies in the sheriff's statements about when her family was notified and the subsequent response to her being missing. Initially, it was reported that the family learned of her absence around 11:00 a.m. and waited an hour to call 911, but this was later altered, raising questions about the investigation and the reasons behind the changes in the narrative.

Key takeaways

• The sheriff's changing timeline raises doubts—when it comes to missing persons, every minute counts.
• In a digital age, a church's live stream can complicate physical attendance narratives—did Nancy attend or not?
• Communication breakdowns are common in crises, but here they feel like miscommunication of monumental proportions.
• In investigations, the smallest details—like the timing of 911 calls—can lead to larger mysteries.
• Journalists need to ask the tough questions; a missing timeline is a red flag, not an oversight.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 7 min speaking
• Ashleigh Banfield (Guest) · 5 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Nancy Guthrie, Potta Sheriff's Department
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Nancy Guthrie, Potta Sheriff's Department, Brian Enton, COVID pandemic
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Nest cameras, Potta Sheriff's Department, Brian Enton, Ring
4. 9:00 – 11:43: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Why Timeline Changed Around Nancy Guthrie's Disappearance, with Ashleigh Banfield"

• On Nancy and discovers her missing. And at 12:03 p.m., 911 has called in to the Potta Sheriff's Department.

  about Potta Sheriff's Department · at 2:19

• Also in the midst of all that had both the Daily Mail and Brian Enton yesterday told us as well reporting that Nancy Guthrie wasn't going to church physically anymore and…

  about Nancy Guthrie · at 3:09

• So, the exact words that were used is that the Nest, and I was told Nest cameras, that was the first time that they'd been named. They weren't Ring cameras, they were Nest cameras, plural, were smashed. That was the wording. Nest.

  about Nest cameras · at 6:57

• That gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years. and a never- ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals with Birch…

  about Birch Gold Group · at 10:39

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Referenced subject (missing person in case being discussed) · 2 mentions · first at 0:30
  Central figure in the timeline dispute; the discussion focuses on when she was discovered missing and how that timeline changed in official statements and media reporting.
• Brian Enton — Person · Referenced reporter (on-camera observer / corroborating journalist) · 2 mentions · first at 3:12
  Cited as a journalist who captured key visuals (e.g., blood outside the house; camera bracket) and whose reporting is used to challenge/compare law enforcement statements.
  So, so what do you mean? Because we've also in the midst of all that had both the Daily Mail and Brian Enton yesterday told us as well reporting that Nancy Guthrie wasn't going…

Companies & orgs

• Potta Sheriff's Department — Company · Business focus · 3 mentions · first at 2:26
  Central to the discussion as the law enforcement agency handling the case, with timeline discrepancies highlighted.

Products & tech

• Nest cameras — Product · Case study · 2 mentions · first at 6:59
  Discussed in the context of a crime investigation, specifically their disconnection and potential destruction.
• Ring — Product · Incidental mention · 1 mention · first at 7:03
  Briefly mentioned as an alternative to Nest cameras in the context of home security.
  That the Nest, and I was told Nest cameras, that was the first time that they'd been named. They weren't Ring cameras, they were Nest cameras, plural, were smashed. That was…

Places & events

• COVID pandemic — Event · Referenced event · 1 mention · first at 3:21
  Mentioned in the context of changes in church attendance habits during the pandemic.
  Of whether Nancy was participating or not. So how did we go from she talked to a friend who was concerned at the church which you heard him say on camera there and they took…

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 10:49
  Mentioned in an advertisement segment promoting gold investment as a hedge against economic uncertainty.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Here's the other thing that's really bothering me about I agree with you that the reporters, many of them did a good job, but there were some glaring questions that were not asked. The timeline was changed dramatically on Sunday morning. What this sheriff had been saying to us before was that um at 11:00 or just after 11:00 a.m. on Sunday morning, the family was notified by a friend in the church who noticed Nancy didn't attend and they went over to her house and about an hour later they called 911. That's that was the story this morning.

0:40 That created a lot of conration. we got to the and and many people said why did it take an hour? How how do you like especially seeing blood outside of the house like Brian Engine got on camera who would take an hour? Um now then last night or yesterday at the presser that totally shifted. He said they discovered they got to the house and discovered she was missing at 11:57 a.m.

1:05 So we've lost a whole hour now, the controversial hour. and called law enforcement five minutes later at 12:03.

1:12 I think it was seven minutes later. Sorry. Sorry, my math is off. My math is off. Okay. Seven is lightning fast.

1:18 That's fast. Okay. So, that it's a dramatic difference. But here, let's just listen. Here's what he had said prior to yesterday. This was the story. Sad 18.

1:28 Sometime earlier that morning, they got a call from somebody at the church who said, "Hey, your your mom's not here." Um, the family went to the house. I'm thinking they they spent some time looking for her themselves before they called us. So, I'm guessing maybe they got there around 11. So, they did some searching and realized we need some help and they called 911. She was dropped off at 9:30 and she was found to be missing at about 11:00 Sunday morning.

1:55 I know that when we got there, we got there, the family was already there and they were they had already spent some time looking as you would expect. Um, probably we got an hour delay there from them. Uh, not anything intentional, just that, you know, they went and looked and made some calls and then they decided we better call 911.

2:15 And at 11:56 a.m., uh, the family checks on Nancy and discovers her missing. And at 12:03 p.m., 911 has called in to the Potta Sheriff's Department. What? Because just to just to underscore it here, first it's they got a call from a friend at the church around 11:10. Then he says it was at about 11. Then he told you that middle clip is on your show. He says they found out about 11 and it was about an hour delay before they called 911. Now, yesterday he says they checked on Nancy and discovered her missing at 11:57, right? Is it I keep 57 number?

3:05 Yeah 57. So, so what do you mean? Because we've also in the midst of all that had both the Daily Mail and Brian Enton yesterday told us as well reporting that Nancy Guthrie wasn't going to church physically anymore and hadn't been since the COVID pandemic. That she'd been joining the live stream the church offers and participating from her home. Moreover, the Daily Mail reports it wasn't a Zoom situation where the congregants could see who was joining virtually. It was just a live stream being blasted out by the church outgoing only and therefore no one would be aware of whether Nancy was participating or not. So how did we go from she talked to a friend who was concerned at the church which you heard him say on camera there and they took him an hour and then they called 911 to now it's they checked on Nancy and discovered her missing and within moments called 911. I think these are all things that lead to

4:06 an even bigger mystery and a little confusion. I always give law enforcement grace when there's so much going on and there's an exigent circumstance and now all these ransom notes which have taken law enforcement's direction elsewhere. Let's be honest, this is awful. These ransom notes, especially the one in California, if this guy is guilty of this, it has taken their attention away. But there it's a, you know, fog of war is not easy. I can understand how there'd be communication breakdown. There's other agencies coming in sharing of information. Maybe telephone, you know, the game of telephone makes mistakes, but I do think that it adds to another element of confusion about this.

4:46 I think you're being too nice in this situation. With all due respect to the sheriff, you know as well as I do, the time she was discovered missing is very important. It's not fog of war. It is not fog of war. That you know,

5:00 yeah, it shouldn't be. Maybe the dissemination of it was though as the only grace I give is that it is a it is a complicated um task that they're undergoing and we don't make

5:09 nobody asked about it. Somebody in that room needed to say you've adjusted the timeline dramatically. Sheriff, why?

5:16 Yeah. No, there was lots that I wish they'd followed up on the car being towed and being processed by warrant. I mean, what where was that? Like, hold it.

5:23 You and I are going to have to fly out there for the next one. Literally, I think you and I are going to have to fly out there together for the next one. That's at least four questions. Two for you and two for me.

5:30 Yeah. Seriously, like I I was very frustrated because it was like that's an obvious one. Ask that. And the the one about the car was the other one. Like he he he just sort of elided around it. It was like

5:40 Yeah. car. Standard search warrant. Court orders crime scene. Wait, wait. Yeah.

5:47 Right. No, I know. NY's house is the crime scene. Was it towed from NY's house or was it towed from Annie's house? Sheriff, and whose car was it? Why? And if it's Annie's, why are you towing Annie's car? I only think that since many of the uh breaking pieces of information that I had were addressed bullet by bullet in that news conference that when he said he did that car being towed, I assumed that was because I reported that Annie's car has been towed and is now in evidence. I assume that's what he was saying because he said the car towed from the house. That's standard. Uh as per warrant, it's being processed. So he didn't say from NY's house. He didn't say from Annie's house.

6:29 I'm I'm only I can only go on. He was bulleting my um my reports and trying to knock them down. But, you know, did you hear what he said about the cameras? Something else I I picked up on.

6:39 Let's talk about that. Yeah. Big time. Before we talk about the cameras, let me just say quickly, we actually did reach out. We we went um and tried to pull the warrants to see if they were public. They're under seal, so we can't get them right now to see exactly what they got a warrant for. But, let's talk about the cameras because that's another piece of your reporting that has come under fire. First, tell us what your reporting is and then we'll talk about what he said. So, the exact words that were used is that the Nest, and I was told Nest cameras, that was the first time that they'd been named. They weren't Ring cameras, they were Nest cameras, plural, were smashed. That was the wording. Nest cameras were smashed. And when asked about that, the sheriff said, well, first he had reported they were removed uh and in the timeline called them disconnected, but when asked about them being smashed, he said smashed. I don't

7:23 know where you got the information about smashed, but we're not confirming that. And then then he did confirm it as plural that there were more than one. And that was something that I reported that there wasn't just the one that Brian Enton saw the bracket left behind. By the way, he went further about that and it was interesting. He said, "Regarding the disconnected camera, do you believe that camera was taken?" And the sheriff said, "We do not have it in our possession. We have not located it." So, does that mean that the perpetrator smashed those cameras off the brackets and took them away? Maybe he just doesn't

7:58 clearly here. Here he is. Let me play for the audience. It's S 14. It's a montage.

8:02 Sunday morning, early morning at 1:47 a.m. The doorbell doorbell camera disconnects. Uh the doorbell camera um it it was removed. We know that, but we're not confirming that any cameras were smashed or destroyed around the house. I don't know where that came from, but that's something we're not confirming. Um,

8:24 when you say the doorbell camera was disconnected, do you believe that that camera was taken?

8:30 We do not have it in our possession. We've not located. It's a Yes. Well, I mean, it's off the bracket. How do you get it off the bracket? Do you bring a screwdriver? Uh, or do you smash it? Is this semantics? I don't know. But to me, it was pretty telling that that's that's more of my reporting that has borne out.

8:54 And then we were able to get to the bottom of yesterday. We we got very confused as we looked at the timeline that they put up about how he was saying the doorbell cameras were disconnected and then minutes later there was a picture captured of a person.

9:07 No, not a picture. They don't have the image because Yeah, it's it's the alert.

9:10 No, no, I know. I know. But there there was an alert. The the point is not whether it was a picture or a written text. The point is that

9:17 they got a communication from a camera. Yeah. After they said the doorbell cameras were disconnected, which was confusing. And what they said was there were other cameras. That was basically the explanation. We we reached out to the FBI. We reached out to the sheriff's office. We went back and watched the end of the presser where they did reference there being more than just the doorbell cameras. And the sheriff's office too clarified um basically there there were other cameras and it was one of these other cameras that alerted them to the image of a person the sheriff later said could have been an animal too. Um

9:48 alerted to activity the house and the and the the secret is here uh and it's a great message to everybody who's watching and listening. Um, if you have a doorbell service of some kind, whether it's Nest, ring.com, or uh, you know, any of the the services, you pay for a subscription to be able to get your history or for many of them, it's just a live alert. There's someone at your door right now. You can look and you might be built able to talk to them, but once that's done, it's gone. You don't have an archive of it. So if you come home and you wonder who was skulking around your front door, unfortunately if you don't have the service, the subscription, you can't go back and and look at all the alerts and what they actually recorded. And that was what I think they were trying to tell us.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Why Timeline Changed Around Nancy Guthrie's Disappearance, with Ashleigh Banfield"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Ashleigh Banfield (Guest).

What is "Why Timeline Changed Around Nancy Guthrie's Disappearance, with Ashleigh Banfield" about?

The discussion centers around the shifting timeline regarding Nancy Guthrie's disappearance, highlighting inconsistencies in the sheriff's statements about when her family was notified and the subsequent response to her being missing. Initially, it was reported that the family learned of her absence around 11:00 a.m. and waited an hour to call 911, but this was later altered, raising questions…

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

7 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Nancy Guthrie, Potta Sheriff's Department, Brian Enton, Nest cameras, COVID pandemic, Ring. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Why Timeline Changed Around Nancy Guthrie's Disappearance, with Ashleigh Banfield"?

The episode runs 12 min; the transcript is about 2,216 words in 32 timestamped sections.

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