Bill Clinton CALLS Trump’s BLUFF for PUBLIC HEARING on Epstein

What this episode is about

Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have offered to publicly testify before Congress regarding the Epstein files, pushing back against Donald Trump's attempts to shift focus onto them amid the ongoing investigation. They assert that transparency is crucial, given the significant references to Trump in the released documents and the possibility of more information being concealed.

Key takeaways

• The Clintons challenge MAGA Republicans to a public showdown—sunlight might just be the best disinfectant.
• With 38,000 mentions of Trump in Epstein files, irony abounds: the supposed 'victim' might just be the accused.
• As the DOJ's redaction game continues, it's clear: transparency in politics is often more elusive than Bigfoot.
• Despite claims of contempt, Clintons want the spotlight, while Trump hides—talk about turning the tables!
• A public hearing could expose more than just Epstein ties; it might reveal the fragile facade of partisan bravado.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Bill Clinton (Guest) · 1 min speaking
• Hillary Clinton (Guest) · 1 min speaking
• James Comr (Guest) · 2 min speaking
• Raja Christy (Guest) · 7 min speaking
• Ben (Guest) · 2 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, James Comr
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Department of Justice, Epstein Files Transparency Act
3. 6:00 – 9:00: MAGA Republican
4. 9:00 – 12:00: MAGA Republican, ICE, George Christy
5. 12:00 – 13:58: George Christy

Notable quotes from "Bill Clinton CALLS Trump’s BLUFF for PUBLIC HEARING on Epstein"

• Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have called Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans bluff as the MAGA Republicans and Trump have tried to distract from how devastating the.

  about Donald Trump · at 0:00

• Now, which still could be implicating Donald Trump. So, here's what was reported moments ago. The Clintons both agreed to testify in the Epstein investigation in February…

  about Bill and Hillary Clinton · at 1:25

• Unanimously by the committee in a bipartisan manner, we will move next week in the House Oversight Committee Markup to hold former President Clinton in contempt of Congress.

  about James Comr · at 2:28

• As a reminder, when the Epstein File Transparency Act was passed, here's what former President Clinton had to say. The Epstein Files Transparency Act imposes a clear legal duty on the US Department of.

  about Epstein Files Transparency Act · at 3:46

• Also. He's all throughout this. But, of course, Donald Trump will be scared. We know that about Donald Trump. I want to bring in Democratic Congress member Raja Christy.…

  about George Christy · at 4:52

• People? Where are the hearings? and obviously the answer is that the MAGA Republicans because they control the House, they are controlling what the hearings are discussed. The…

  about MAGA Republican · at 6:18

• People and these, MAGA leaders, they do their dance where they show up on what I call state regime media, which is Fox. They have their talking points, they lie, they defame, and then they hide. And it's okay, you believe these.

  about Fox · at 8:00

• Have to just revamp how things are done with DHS you know and here's the thing right ICE and Border Patrol they right now are terrorizing communities they're terrorizing your…

  about ICE · at 9:56

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Donald Trump — Person · Primary referenced subject · 7 mentions · first at 0:04
  Central figure in the discussion about the Epstein files, alleged document concealment/redactions, and House Oversight dynamics; repeatedly contrasted with the Clintons' willingness to testify publicly.
• Bill and Hillary Clinton — Person · Primary referenced witness/target of subpoena · 9 mentions · first at 0:00
  Discussed as a subpoena target for a House Oversight deposition related to the Epstein files; portrayed as agreeing to testify and requesting a public hearing.
• Hillary Clinton — Person · Primary referenced witness/target of subpoena · 5 mentions · first at 0:02
  Discussed as a subpoena target in the Epstein-related Oversight matter; portrayed as agreeing to testify and requesting that testimony occur publicly.
  Up at a House oversight deposition. But guess what Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton just said? Not only do we want to show up to testify, we want to do it in public because we…
• James Comr — Person · Referenced political actor (committee chair; likely mis-transcription) · 3 mentions · first at 1:37
  Presented as the MAGA Republican House Oversight figure driving subpoenas/contempt threats and receiving the Clintons' proposed public-hearing dates; name likely refers to Rep. James Comer.
• George Christy — Person · Interview guest (as named in transcript; likely mis-transcription) · 3 mentions · first at 4:58
  Brought on as a Democratic member of Congress to comment on the Oversight strategy, transparency/public hearings, and broader accountability themes; name appears inconsistent with known public figures, suggesting transcription error.

Companies & orgs

• Department of Justice — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at 3:09
  Key government agency involved in the release and redaction of Epstein files.
  The DOJ is going through trying to make sure they redact everything. So as from my standpoint, the Department of Justice is cooperating. They are turning over documents. We…
• ICE — Company · Business focus · 1 mention · first at 9:52
  Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency criticized for its operations and policies.
• DHS — Company · Business focus · 4 mentions
  Department of Homeland Security discussed in the context of immigration and enforcement policies.
  Changes with regard to the DHS because as I've said before I think we have to abolish Trump's ICE and we have to just revamp how things are done with DHS you know and here's…
• Fox — Company · Referenced media · 3 mentions
  Media outlet mentioned in the context of political coverage.

Concepts & topics

• MAGA Republican — Concept · Key argument · 5 mentions · first at 0:04
  Central political group discussed in the context of the Epstein files and congressional hearings.
• Epstein Files Transparency Act — Concept · Core topic · 2 mentions · first at 3:54
  Legislation discussed in the context of releasing Epstein-related documents.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have called Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans bluff as the MAGA Republicans and Trump have tried to distract from how devastating the Epstein file partial release has been by focusing on subpoenaing Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. And Trump and MAGA wanted to hold them in contempt if Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton did not show up at a House oversight deposition. But guess what Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton just said? Not only do we want to show up to testify, we want to do it in public because we believe if we do it in private, you'll try to cover up that also. So, let's do a public hearing so the entire world can see you haul in former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and talk about the Epstein files while Donald Trump is hiding and lying and saying that the Epstein files vindicates

1:01 Donald Trump when in fact there are 38,000 references to Donald Trump in the Epstein files that were released. Remember, it was only a partial release of 3 million documents. We believe there are at least 3 million more documents. As many as 50 million pages may still be concealed by Trump's DOJ, and also there are a lot of improper redactions right now, which still could be implicating Donald Trump. So, here's what was reported moments ago. The Clintons both agreed to testify in the Epstein investigation in February before MAGA Republican Congress member James Comr's oversight committee and they want a public hearing. The Clintons give dates in the letter to Comr. They say February 26th have Hillary Clinton, former Secretary of State. February 27th, let's do former President Clinton. Though you have notably never asked the Clintons to appear in an open hearing, we now believe that will best suit our concerns

2:03 about fairness. Now, this comes at a time where more disgusting and despicable emails of Donald Trump are coming out. This is some real grotesque stuff. And you remember this is what James Comr was saying recently as well. Let's play this clip of James Comr who said, "We're going to hold the Clintons in contempt. We haven't heard from them." Here, play this first clip of Comr.

2:28 Unanimously by the committee in a bipartisan manner, we will move next week in the House Oversight Committee Markup to hold former President Clinton in contempt of Congress.

2:39 And here's CRM saying, "We're going to hold them in contempt. Let's play this."

2:42 Bonding for the documents. She started producing the documents. Then Congress voted for the uh the discharge petition uh to send another message and we all voted for that. Uh she is she they are sending documents. They sent a big batch. The Democrats were were unhappy. They uh they said there weren't enough redactions. So now the DOJ is going through trying to make sure they redact everything. So as from from my standpoint, the Department of Justice is cooperating. They are turning over documents. We would all like for him to turn documents over quicker, but at the end of the day, they are complying. President Trump is answering your questions about Epstein. He's answered them over and over and over again. Who we haven't heard from is Bill Clinton. And I stated why. The amount of time that that Epstein spent with Clinton while he was president and postp presidency. So, I don't think it's it's

3:35 uh out of line for former President Clinton to come in for a bipartisan subpoena and sit down and answer questions. So, thank you all.

3:46 As a reminder, when the Epstein File Transparency Act was passed, here's what former President Clinton had to say. The Epstein Files Transparency Act imposes a clear legal duty on the US Department of Justice to produce the full and complete record the public demands and deserves. However, what the Department of Justice has released so far and the matter in which it did so makes one thing clear. Someone or something is being protected. We do not know whom, what, or why, but we do know this. We need no such protection. Accordingly, we call on President Trump to direct Attorney General Bondi to immediately release any remaining materials referring to, mentioning, or containing photographs of Bill Clinton. This includes without limitation any records that may exist.

4:33 And then it goes on to say, "Release all the file. Release everything." That's what they put out a few weeks ago. Now, they're saying they're going to testify at a public hearing. Um, and they want it to be public. Now, it's in James Comr's uh court to see what he does there. And by the way, this begs the question. Donald Trump needs to testify also. He's all throughout this. But, of course, Donald Trump will be scared. We know that about Donald Trump. I want to bring in Democratic Congress member Raja Christy. Congressman Christa Morphy, it's uh great to see you right now. Uh let's talk about this because you know you had the MAGA Republicans wanting to create this publicity stunt and try to distract distract deflect and you know you have former President Clinton and Hillary Clinton calling their bluff and saying all right we'll we'll do it in public and so now you know comr and these maggas they want to do everything

5:25 in private and they want to lie about what's said in these hearings and in these depositions so it creates an interesting dynamic. What do you make of it all? I think it's it's a good move and I I welcome that. I think that the more that the public sees and hears what's going on, the more trust they're going to have in it. Um and I think that it also keeps everyone on their good behavior, right? I mean, it's less likely that um you know, the Republicans are going to get into all kinds of other topics or areas having nothing to do with the subject matter at hand. So, I think it's a good thing. Look, sunlight is the best disinfectant and so we need transparency generally around here in in in Congress and certainly with regard to the Epstein files and any deposition really, which makes me think too like where are all of these Trump cabinet people? Where are the hearings? You know, and obviously the answer is is

6:23 that the MAGA Republicans because they control the House, they are controlling what the hearings are are discussed. The Democrats had their way. They would bring in Bondi every week and they'd bring in Christine Gnome every week and Tom Holman and and Pete Hegith. But just one of the notable things that I observe is, you know, the Office of Management and Budget Director doesn't show up to the budget committee. you know, Gnome leaves after 20 minutes like you know, she was like uh you know, you know, just showing up to like a party and saying hello and leaving at the last like these people need to sit down and be grill.

7:00 It's just weird. They don't testify. That's called accountability, my friend. You know, you know all about it. And I think that that's lacking with this administration. There's no accountability. They don't think that they actually need to uh be held accountable or need to, you know, be forthright or transparent or open or honest with the American people. That's why, you know, as you said, within the oversight committee, I've called for Christine Gnome to come before us and answer questions. Of course, I've asked for her resignation. I've asked her to be fired. If she's not fired, I've also joined calls to impeach her. But a number of people need to come and testify under oath. And that is the key uh about what the heck is going on because they're acting with impunity right now. And that is not okay. And I'm hearing it from all corners. I'm hearing from uh Democrats, of course, but also

7:52 independents and Republicans. I'm hearing this from across the spectrum, right? because these Trump cabinet people and these, you know, MAGA leaders, you know, they do their dance where they show up on what I call state regime media, which is Fox. They have their talking points, they they lie, they defame, and then they hide. And it's like, okay, you believe these things, go testify, swear you're telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and actually get questions in an adversarial process because that's just the way our government was set up. And, you know, I mean, you have the Clintons saying they're going to be testifying in public. Um, you know, but but why, you know, Elon Musk hasn't testified in public? He's all over he's all over this list. I mean, all of these people who are hanging out with Trump, they ain't testifying in public and they just go on their social media platforms and, you

8:52 know, in defame and hurt people. Totally. And remember, when Democrats were in charge of Congress and we, you know, were um we had the White House, so to speak, that did not stop us from bringing administration officials on a regular basis to the House to testify uh in the open about whatever they are working on. That is absolutely essential and that's what really you know ensures at the end of the day that people know what's going on and if they don't like what's happening to have a say in it real time and that is not happening right now with the Trump administration as you can tell. So we have to keep pressing uh we have to put pressure.

9:34 Fortunately we do have one lever that is extremely effective and that is the power of the purse. And I think that is why by the way um hopefully we'll be able to negotiate uh some meaningful changes with regard to uh the DHS because as I as I've said before I think we have to abolish Trump's ICE and we have to just revamp how things are done with DHS you know and here's the thing right ICE and Border Patrol they right now are terrorizing communities they're terrorizing your state of Illinois of course they terror terrorizing Chicago we see what they're doing in Minneapolis and across this country you know and I just don't get I mean you said it very clearly there I border patrol the way they're composed now whatever this thing is this needs to be abolished simple plain simple you know send border patrol to the border to do border stuff you know what are you doing going in inland and and killing people and attacking

10:36 people I just find it so interesting when people like oh That's such a hyperbolic position and so radical to me that's the most kind of basic it's a centrist position in my view of getting rid of terrorists. I mean what are we talking about? Getting people who are engaged in terroristic activity. Look I think you know what I've said is um you know we need to first get rid of Christy Gnome, get rid of Greg Movino. Uh you know masks off, body cameras on, identification on, no more warrantless arrests. You need third-party investigations of abuse of discretion or uh use of force. And you need uh a situation where there are no longer roving gangs of ICE and CBP agents through our cities for no reason. It doesn't make any sense. Um that is abolishing Trump's ICE in my opinion.

11:28 That is like completely changing the nature of what's going on. And I got to tell you, I'm hearing this I'm not just hearing this from Democrats now. I'm hearing this from a a broad swath of people. Um, one person just told me a few minutes ago her uncle was uh a Trump voter and he showed up to an ICE protest and then he publicized it to everybody. I think this is like going beyond or transcending any kind of party lines,

11:56 you know, and today because MAGA Republicans refuse to hold hearings, Democrats have to hold like shadow hearings,

12:04 right? Yeah. To actually do oversight and bring attention like your day has to have a hearing that is technically unofficial right?

12:15 Because the MAGA Republicans refuse to address the killings in the street by ICE and Border Patrol. Before we go, talk about that.

12:24 Yeah. So, in in about half an hour, I'm about to participate in a hearing. It's called a shadow hearing because as you said the majority is not participating and not convening it but it's important nonetheless. So, it's actually a biccameal shadow hearing, one that's being done with the Senate um kind of government affairs committee, homeland and government affairs committee and and basically we're going to have a chance to meet with the Renee Good the family of Renee Good uh but also um other I guess victims of what's happened with DHS and Chicago as you know was ground zero for DHS's operations and so I'm looking forward to you know talking to Vic victims of of of DHS's operations in Chicago, learning from them what happened, but also shining a light on what happened so more more people understand kind of the stakes of of what's what's absolutely imperative with DHS, which is, you know, changing it

13:24 completely. Congressman Roger Christy, Congressman of Illinois, also happens to be running for the United States Senate seat there. Congressman, thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank you, Ben. Thanks for everything that you do.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Bill Clinton CALLS Trump’s BLUFF for PUBLIC HEARING on Epstein"?

Bill Clinton (Guest), Hillary Clinton (Guest), James Comr (Guest), Raja Christy (Guest), Ben (Guest).

What is "Bill Clinton CALLS Trump’s BLUFF for PUBLIC HEARING on Epstein" about?

Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have offered to publicly testify before Congress regarding the Epstein files, pushing back against Donald Trump's attempts to shift focus onto them amid the ongoing investigation. They assert that transparency is crucial, given the significant references to Trump in the released documents and the possibility of more…

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The episode runs 14 min; the transcript is about 2,363 words in 23 timestamped sections.

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