Transcript

🚨 HIDDEN Pardon STASH of Trump FINALLY EXPOSED!!!

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "🚨 HIDDEN Pardon STASH of Trump FINALLY EXPOSED!!!", an episode of MeidasTouch published January 21, 2026 (17 min, about 3,057 words). It mentions 11 people, works and ideas, including Liz Oyer, Trevor Milton, Ice King, Substack, Instagram.

What this episode is about

The content investigates the controversial pardons issued by Donald Trump, highlighting a pattern of granting clemency to individuals involved in serious crimes such as fraud and drug trafficking. It raises questions about the potential existence of undisclosed pardons tied to quid pro quo arrangements, particularly regarding Trump's inner circle, while shedding light on the implications of misdemeanor charges being converted into pardons as part of a larger corrupt scheme.

Key takeaways

  • Trump's secret pardons: the iceberg's tip of a legal Titanic sinking in corruption's murky waters.
  • Misdemeanor pardons: a clever cozy blanket for crooks, wrapped in quid pro quo deals.
  • Watch for the 'Pardon Parade': secretive deals may have more surprises than a magician's hat.
  • Pardons for the powerful: when crime pays, democracy gets tricked into a very steep price tag.
  • In Trump’s world, felons get favors while citizens pay the price – who needs justice when you have connections?

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Kyle Chenny, Mel Gibson, Adriana Cbros
  2. – 6:00: Liz Oyer, Ice King, Mel Gibson
  3. – 9:00: MAGA Inc.
  4. – 12:00: Trevor Milton, Substack
  5. – 17:18: Instagram, Liz Oyer, Substack

Notable quotes from "🚨 HIDDEN Pardon STASH of Trump FINALLY EXPOSED!!!"

  • You were fired as the pardon attorney after Pam Bondi. and everyone said, Hey, Liz, we'd like you to help us with Mel Gibson. He's a big Trumper. You want to you want to help…
    about Mel Gibson · at
  • First of all, talk to us though. You think there are more pardons potentially out there, huh? Well, I don't know that there are more pardons, but it certainly seems like a possibility. One of the.
    about Liz Oyer · at
  • He could potentially pardon all ICE officers. We hear people in his inner circle, we hear Steven Miller and JD Vance talking about absolute immunity for ICE officers. They…
    about Ice King · at
  • Decision-making in many if not most of these cases. We learned about a case in which Trump pardoned someone essentially made the decision over a round of golf.
    about Trey Gowdy · at
  • Made in his family businesses as in the case of the billionaire Changpang Xiao with his crypto company and these are paying dividends in the form of full pardons that are based…
    about Changpeng Zhao · at
  • There's a guy named Trevor Milton who was at one time a billionaire. He built a company that was basically built on lies. He claimed that he was building the world's first electric powered.
    about Trevor Milton · at
  • Total amount of debts that Donald Trump has forgiven through pardons and commutations. And you can find all of that information on my Substack on it's lawyer oyer. I'm keeping…
    about Substack · at
  • Department. So, I'm keeping a very close eye on what's going on in that case. I'm posting about it regularly on my Instagram, which is again lawyer Oyer, and you can see my latest updates there.
    about Instagram · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Liz Oyer — Person · Main guest / referenced expert · 2 mentions · first at
    Interviewee presented as a former DOJ pardon attorney explaining how pardons normally work, alleging Trump-era secrecy, pay-to-play dynamics, and large restitution amounts being wiped out.
  • Trevor Milton — Person · Referenced pardon recipient / fraud example · 2 mentions · first at
    Used as a detailed case study: described as a fraud convict whose restitution (~$700M) was allegedly wiped out after donations to Trump.
  • Changpeng Zhao — Person · Referenced business figure / alleged pardon recipient · 2 mentions
    Mentioned (as 'CZ from Binance') as an example tied to money laundering allegations and alleged connections to Trump's family crypto endeavors.
  • Mel Gibson — Person · Referenced celebrity / alleged beneficiary of political favoritism · 2 mentions · first at
    Raised as an example of a politically connected figure for whom DOJ staff were allegedly pressured to help restore gun rights after a domestic violence conviction.
  • Trey Gowdy — Person · Referenced intermediary / advocate for a pardon (as alleged) · 2 mentions
    Cited as a former Republican member of Congress who allegedly asked Trump for help for a client during golf, followed by a pardon.
  • Kyle Chenny — Person · Referenced journalist · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as the source of a Politico item summarizing a 'latest round' of Trump pardons focused on fraud convictions.
    Behavior that we see? look, wake up in the morning and you see something like this, though, from this is from Kyle Chenny, Politico, the latest round of Trump pardons…
  • Adriana Cbros — Person · Referenced pardon recipient (as alleged) · 1 mention · first at
    Named as an example of repeat/recidivist pardoning in the discussion of fraud-related pardons; spelling may reflect transcript error.
    Familiar. Adriana Cbros, who was second time pardon, recidivist pardon. I think she did like counterfeit 5hour energy drinks the first time and then New Fraud the second time.…

Companies & orgs

  • MAGA Inc. — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Who are making large donations to Donald Trump. You mentioned the donations that were made in the case of the former governor of Puerto Rico and her codefendants which totaled…

Products & tech

Concepts & topics

Full transcript with timestamps

Sadly, we know too much about a lot of Donald Trump's corrupt pardons. It seems that every day while he tries to cover them up, we're learning about more and more of these horrific pardons of some of the biggest fraudsters and drug traffickers and people who aid and abet sex trafficking and just every day he just hands them out, hands them out. And then it also has a restitution component to it. But are there also pardons that we just don't know about yet that investigative journalism has not found? Does Donald Trump have a secret stash of corrupt pardons for himself, for his entire family, for his cabinet that's involved in all of these crimes against humanity and war crimes? Are they just sitting there in a pile? And has he basically handed him out to people as also part of his quidd proquo behavior that we see? I mean, look, wake up in the morning and you see something like this, though, from this is from

Kyle Chenny, Politico, the latest round of Trump pardons, primarily centers on people convicted of fraud. And New York Times did a good report on this last week, so a lot of these names are familiar. Adriana Cbros, who was second time pardon, recidivist pardon. I think she did like counterfeit 5hour energy drinks the first time and then New Fraud the second time. You start looking at down this list. Danny Preston Conrad, Ari Eric De Jung, and then you have the uh people in Puerto Rico, the governor, and then the uh people who were involved in this bribery scheme there. Just a notable thing also is that the underlying sentences under this DOJ to begin with, like things that should be felonies were being kind of charged as misdemeanors in the first place, and then you're seeing misdemeanor pardons that that are kind of taking place. And then I guess it's a way to double dip on the quid proquo.

You get the misdemeanor with the first $2.5 million to the Trump pack. And then you've got the extra million and a half for the pardon of the misdemeanor. This way they kind of, you know, they they drag it out. Liz was the former pardon attorney, first appointed under the Biden administration. Then your term continued under the Trump administration and famously or infamously, I suppose, you were fired as the pardon attorney after uh Pam Bondi. and everyone said, "Hey, Liz, we'd like you to help us with Mel Gibson. He's a big Trumper. You want to you want to help him there?" And we'll talk about that. Um, so Liz, I I want to jump right into all of these corrupt pardons, potentially these secret pardons, but I I could go through the list of others. Sadly, people know about a lot of these, but you know, I know Trump wants to destruct. Juan Orlando Hernandez, one of the biggest drug traffickers in uh you know,

American history, worked with El Chapo, said, "Let's get those drugs right up the nose of the gringoes and kill him during a federal trial." Like, pardon that guy, CZ from Binance, and they they plead guilty to in uh engaging in a massive money laundering scheme to get this uh crypto money to terrorism and sex trafficking. he gets a pardon, then he helps Trump's family with the crypto endeavor uh before and after. Um first, let's talk about the secret stash, then let's go into uh some of the pardons and these restitution orders that basically have forgiven lots of money that these crooks and criminals should be paying to our country um in in response to their conviction. So, Liz, great to see you.

First of all, talk to us though. You think there are more pardons potentially out there, huh? Well, I don't know that there are more pardons, but it certainly seems like a possibility. One of the things that's been so unusual about how Donald Trump has been doing pardons is that he is granting them in secret. There's no public announcement made when he grants a pardon. Typically, we're just learning about these things as they come to light and as people are digging them up. So, it is entirely possible that Donald Trump has signed more pardons that have not yet come to light.

It's possible that he has granted pardons for people in his inner circle, including his family and his cabinet members. I don't I don't know if he has or he hasn't, but it certainly seems possible that he may have signed other pardons and that those may be um you know, sitting somewhere until they are are needed. One thing that has also come up is the idea that Donald Trump could pardon this ICE officer in Minnesota who has um been involved in the killing who killed Renee Good in in Minneapolis and he could potentially pardon all ICE officers. We hear people in his inner circle, we hear Steven Miller and JD Vance talking about absolute immunity for ICE officers. They don't actually legally have absolute immunity. So you have to wonder, does that refer to the idea that the president is planning to pardon those people? We really just have no way of knowing what the full extent of the pardons has been or will be

because they have been so secretive. Yeah. I mean, look, it it goes from you holding the line on something that is that would be non-controversial in prior DOJ's. You know, you don't just pick up the phone. Hey, this actor, you know, uh, he's a big m, he's a big supporter, you know, he was convicted of domestic violence back in 2011. Hey, Liz, help get him his guns back, you know, just do do me do me a solid, you know, and you do the right thing talking about. Absolutely not. But it seems like now the qualifications for your job is not just to return the guns, but like and I'm not trying to say this facitiously.

It's like who will commit domestic violence again with Mel Gibson. Let's pick that person, bring them in, and then the order is let's just pick the most corrupt people, and then like have the pardon attorney go and figure out a deal where Mel Gibson puts money in Qatari bank accounts for Donald Trump and maybe maybe build Donald Trump a home or or or or build part of his library out. Like, it it's so it's so egregious right now that I just don't think people sometimes reflect on none of this is normal. and and and you rose through the ranks as a public defender and and were there during normal times.

I just I watched this myself as a lawyer and I'm like, what world are we even living? What is this?

Yeah, the pardons that have been granted are just so unusual in so many respects, but one being the fact that relationships seem to be driving the decision-making in many if not most of these cases. We learned about a case in which Trump pardoned someone essentially made the decision over a round of golf. Trump uh played golf with Trey Gouty, who's a former member of Congress, a Republican. Trey Gaudy said, "Hey, my client needs your help here." And then days later, he got a full pardon. We heard about a woman who attended a dinner at Mara Lago. She paid $1 million to go to this dinner and she pitched the president on a pardon for her son who was convicted of a very large-scale fraud offense. and days later he got a full pardon. We're hearing about people who are making large donations to Donald Trump. You mentioned the donations that were made in the case of the former governor of Puerto Rico and her

codefendants which totaled $3.5 million given to Trump's super PAC MAGA Inc. and that resulted in full pardons of three people including the former governor. We um know about a number of other cases where large donations have been made to Donald Trump or investments have been made in his family businesses as in the case of the billionaire Changpang Xiao with his crypto company and these are paying dividends in the form of full pardons that are based not on the merit of the case but on the ability to leverage connections or wealth.

and the pardons the the the part that you've also focused on the restitution component and forgiving the fact that I don't think people realize that in a lot of these criminal cases the penalty is not just prison the penalty is also for these fraudsters restitution meaning paying back your you you know what you stole or what you took and then when people get these pardons or or or clemency tell me you know you could explain if there's a difference between the two in terms of restitution um they they they don't have to they get to keep their money or or does the money get returned? But like this is this is I think your latest calculation is over a billion dollars right now that should be going to the government because it's stolen money or fraudulent money now stays in the hands of the fraudsters.

They get rewarded for their fraud. They get to keep the spoils of their crimes.

Yeah. So typically in normal times, pardons are reserved for people who have already paid their debts, people who served their sentence in full, people who have paid any financial penalties that they owe to victims or otherwise, and who have demonstrated compelling rehabilitation. They've really rebuilt their lives, shown remorse, and demonstrated that they are deserving of this extraordinary form of relief. Not the case in Donald Trump's world. Donald Trump has been pardoning people who have served none of their sentence and who paid back none of their debts. And there are some really egregious examples.

There's a guy named Trevor Milton who was at one time a billionaire. He built a company that was basically built on lies. He claimed that he was building the world's first electric powered semitr. He created a promotional video that showed supposedly a working prototype of the truck. It turns out he had a team of people actually roll this truck down a hill and it didn't work at all. He didn't have the technology, but still he raised hundreds of millions of dollars from investors who believed that they were going to make money on this investment. And many of them were people like uh teachers and retirees and and folks who really didn't have a lot of money to lose. And in the end, Milton was going to have to pay back almost $700 million to those people he defrauded. He made some large donations to Donald Trump totaling around $2 million and then he got a full pardon which wiped out his nearly $700 million

debt. So all of those people that were owed money by Trevor Milton now have no ability to collect that money through restitution, which is really just not the way the pardon power is supposed to work. Donald Trump is making these decisions without consulting the victims of crimes, without consulting the prosecutors who have built these cases, the judges that have imposed these sentences. And again, that is really just not how this process is intended to work. I have been keeping track of the total amount of debts that Donald Trump has forgiven through pardons and commutations. And you can find all of that information on my Substack on uh it's lawyer oyer. I'm keeping a tally and I added in the most recent pardons which were granted last week and the total number is now over $1.5 billion dollars. Donald Trump has wiped out over a billion and a half dollars in debts that are owed by people or were owed by

people convicted of crimes owed to victims of crime and taxpayers. Yeah. You look at Milton too commits all this fraud right before the election as he knows everything's going down. He gives $1.8 8 million 1.8 million to Trump. And then you think about all the victims of his fraud who would normally be entitled to restitution. That brings me to the final point which is the idea of victims in the case of some cases survivors depending on the types of cases you know we're talking about and how the DOJ has turned hostile to the victims and the survivors and have propped up the bad guys. I mean I'm looking at the case USA VG lane and in a typical uh case USA is representing the victims of the sex trafficking but it seems USA VG lane should be USA and Gilane because they often take the same positions on these things and so as you're watching even in the Epstein case the moves that like Congress member Ro Kana and Thomas

Massie are making now to say Hey judge, we need you to intervene because there there's no longer an adversarial process with good guy and bad guy. And then the DOJ says, well, you guys don't have standing. It's just DOJ VGY lane. The whole adversarial process of a criminal case where people are supposed to be fighting for the victims and against the bad guys has been turned on its head. So you look at these cases and then the judges are like the typical process is the DOJ brings these things to our what happens when they don't do it the judges can't just freelance and be like hey I got to do your job for you things have to be requested and so I don't know it exposed these massive flaws in our system but the idea of fighting for victims on behalf of victims and survivors has been thrown out the window and nowhere more have we seen that I think with the cover up of of the Epstein uh files and the Transparency

Act being so blatantly violated. Yeah. I think what you're saying really gets at a larger problem in the Justice Department, which is that the Justice Department is now run by people who used to be Donald Trump's personal lawyers and they are still operating as though they are Donald Trump's lawyers. In reality, the attorney general and the deputy attorney general should be representing the people of the United States. But Pam Bondi and Todd Blanch are treating their jobs as though they are still Donald Trump's personal lawyers and their job above all else is to cover for him. What we saw Todd Blanch do in the case of Glenn Maxwell was really truly shocking and disgraceful. Frankly, he went down to a prison in Florida. He visited Maxwell.

He took a statement from her that appears to have been an attempt to exonerate Donald Trump from any involvement with Jeffrey Epstein and then he facilitated her transfer to a lower security, nicer prison facility. And that was all done in the interest of Donald Trump. There is no case to be made that that was done in the interest of the American people. And that's what we're seeing really across the board inside the Justice Department now is the leaders of that department treating the workforce and the powers they have as though it is Donald Trump's personal law firm. Before we go, anything else you think that um you know we haven't covered that's just on your mind or that you see happening around the corner that you just want our viewers and our 6 million subscribers to kind of to start focusing on because you see something developing and and and we'll we'll have you back to discuss it. But any anything

that you're like let's let's talk about this. One of the most troubling things that I'm seeing recently and that I've been following closely is the situation in Minnesota and the things that are being done and not done there. We're seeing a situation where the Justice Department is now investigating pretty much everyone under the sun except for the ICE officer who committed the shooting, who killed Renee Good. We have a situation where career prosecutors are quitting in droves because they know that what the Justice Department is doing is essentially becoming complicit in the cover up of the actual facts of this shooting. So DOJ is refusing to do a civil rights investigation of the killing, which in and of itself is extraordinary. That's their job. They are instead investigating the victim and her spouse. They're investigating the protesters. They're investigating the governor of Minnesota and the mayor of

Minneapolis. And you've got top people like Todd Blanch making statements accusing these government officials of engaging in terrorism. You've got them talking about the victim as a domestic terrorist. So, what we're seeing is really the building of an alternate reality, a completely false narrative that just has no basis in reality. and it is chilling to see this coming from the top levels of the Justice Department. So, I'm keeping a very close eye on what's going on in that case. Um, I'm posting about it regularly on my Instagram, which is again lawyer Oyer, and you can see my latest updates there.

And please have me back to talk about that situation as it continues to unfold.

Absolutely. and you and I should do some joint substacks uh to some video substacks together also and go live and and and we can bring people breaking news there. So, um great to have you on everybody. Uh check out Liz Oyer Substack and her Instagram and other socials. Liz, thanks for everything.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "🚨 HIDDEN Pardon STASH of Trump FINALLY EXPOSED!!!"?

Liz Oyer (Guest), Unknown Host (Host).

What is "🚨 HIDDEN Pardon STASH of Trump FINALLY EXPOSED!!!" about?

The content investigates the controversial pardons issued by Donald Trump, highlighting a pattern of granting clemency to individuals involved in serious crimes such as fraud and drug trafficking. It raises questions about the potential existence of undisclosed pardons tied to quid pro quo arrangements, particularly regarding Trump's inner circle, while shedding light on the implications of…

What is mentioned in this MeidasTouch episode?

11 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Liz Oyer, Trevor Milton, Ice King, Substack, Instagram, Changpeng Zhao. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "🚨 HIDDEN Pardon STASH of Trump FINALLY EXPOSED!!!"?

The episode runs 17 min; the transcript is about 3,057 words in 25 timestamped sections.

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