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Judge ORDERS URGENT RESPONSE by Trump ON EPSTEIN CLAIMS!!!

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Judge ORDERS URGENT RESPONSE by Trump ON EPSTEIN CLAIMS!!!", an episode of MeidasTouch published February 6, 2026 (14 min, about 2,184 words). It mentions 11 people, works and ideas, including Attorney General Pam Bondi, Jeffrey Epstein, Legal AF, Jimmy Tobias, Randy Moss.

What this episode is about

A federal judge has ordered former President Trump's administration to clarify the whereabouts of the Epstein client list mentioned by Pam Bondi, following a Freedom of Information Act request from independent journalist Jimmy Tobias. After finding the Department of Justice's previous response inadequate, Judge Randy Moss is demanding further explanation and will not accept the production of unrelated Epstein files as a valid excuse for non-compliance.

Key takeaways

  • Pam Bondi's claim is like a magician's trick; the audience saw the list, but it's vanished into thin air.
  • Judge Moss isn't buying excuses; the Epstein client list isn't just an urban legend—it demands accountability.
  • Government transparency isn't optional; if they won't provide the list, Epstein's survivors may just take matters into their own hands.
  • With three million files released, the DOJ says 'trust us'—but when has trust ever been in their lineup?
  • Pam Bondi's desk feat. the Epstein client list: the only thing less reliable than a broken clock!

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Jimmy Tobias, Randy Moss
  2. – 6:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Jimmy Tobias, Legal AF, Democracy Forward
  3. – 9:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Sundaes, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Lisa Phillips
  4. – 12:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Legal AF, Midas Touch Network
  5. – 13:36: Legal AF, Jeffrey Epstein, Jimmy Tobias, Midas Touch Network

Notable quotes from "Judge ORDERS URGENT RESPONSE by Trump ON EPSTEIN CLAIMS!!!"

  • Client list is that Pam Bondi said was on her desk. This in a case that was filed by independent journalist Jimmy Tobias under the Freedom of Information Act request that case…
    about Jimmy Tobias · at
  • Infamous words that will live to hang her. He back in February of 2025, Pam Bondi told the American people that the client list was sitting on her desk.
    about Attorney General Pam Bondi · at
  • That's what I meant by that. Also to the tens of thousands of video they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is what they were…
    about Jeffrey Epstein · at
  • Asked about dur by the reporter. Okay, so that went through a process. See, Freedom of Information Act is a great procedure for groups like Democracy Forward, the ACLU, Midas…
    about Democracy Forward · at
  • I would like to announce here today, us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list. We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names we.
    about Lisa Phillips · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Attorney General Pam Bondi — Person · Referenced government official / central subject of FOIA dispute · 8 mentions · first at
    Her public claim that an Epstein 'client list' was 'sitting on my desk' is the factual trigger for the FOIA lawsuit and the judge’s demand for a clarifying declaration.
  • Jeffrey Epstein — Person · Referenced subject of records / alleged criminal network focal point · 17 mentions · first at
    The episode centers on government records about Epstein—especially the alleged 'client list'—and disputes over disclosure and accountability.
  • Jimmy Tobias — Person · FOIA plaintiff / independent journalist · 6 mentions · first at
    He filed the FOIA request and lawsuit seeking the specific Epstein-related records Bondi referenced, making him the procedural driver of the case discussed.
  • Randy Moss — Person · Presiding federal judge (FOIA case) · 3 mentions · first at
    He is the decision-maker pressing DOJ/Bondi for a sworn declaration identifying what records Bondi referenced and whether the government complied with FOIA.
    District of Columbia federal judge Randy Moss wants to know where the Epstein client list is that Pam Bondi said was on her desk. This in a case that was filed by independent journalist Jimmy.
  • Donald Trump — Person · Referenced political figure tied to directives/communications at issue · 3 mentions · first at
    Bondi attributes her review of files to a directive by President Trump, and the episode references separate litigation seeking communications between Trump and Epstein.
    That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.
  • Lisa Phillips — Person · Referenced survivor-advocate / witness · 2 mentions · first at
    Presented as an Epstein survivor asserting that survivors could compile names themselves if the government does not disclose a 'client list,' adding moral and political pressure to the legal dispute.

Companies & orgs

  • Legal AF — Company · Business focus · 7 mentions · first at
    The podcast itself, mentioned multiple times as the platform where the discussion is taking place.
    I'm Michael Popac. You're here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF.
  • Midas Touch Network — Company · Business focus · 3 mentions · first at
    The network hosting the podcast, mentioned as the platform for the discussion.
    I'm Michael Popac. You're here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF.
  • Democracy Forward — Company · Case study · 3 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as an example of organizations using Freedom of Information Act requests to obtain government documents.
  • ACLU — Company · Case study · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as an example of organizations using Freedom of Information Act requests to obtain government documents.
    Asked about dur by the reporter. Okay, so that went through a process. See, Freedom of Information Act is a great procedure for groups like Democracy Forward, the ACLU, Midas…

Sponsors

  • Sundaes — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
    Promoted as a premium dog food brand during an ad read in the podcast.
    Sundaes was founded by a veterinarian and mom, Dr. Tori Waxman, who got tired of seeing so-called premium dog food full of fillers and synthetics. So, she designed Sundaes, air dried real food.

Full transcript with timestamps

District of Columbia federal judge Randy Moss wants to know where the Epstein client list is that Pam Bondi said was on her desk. This in a case that was filed by independent journalist Jimmy Tobias under the Freedom of Information Act request that that case was filed back in August right at the moment that Pam Bondi went on Fox and said it's sitting on my desk and Jimmy said it is. I would like to see it as part of a public records request. So back in December, Judge Moss ordered the Department of Justice and Pam Bondi to file a declaration to identify the client list and to provide it by the 6th of January. They filed something. I wouldn't say it was responsive to the judge's order. And in a new hearing, he's now giving them another opportunity to explain where the client list is. And no, he's not going to allow the Department of Justice to point to the 3 million Epstein files that were just

produced as a excuse for not complying with Freedom of Information Act request. I'm Michael Popac. You're here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. Let's get down to the new reporting. Back in August, Jimmy Tobias, an independent journalist, shout out to independent journalism, filed in the District of Colombia, a a complaint uh right after Pam Bondi made those now infamous words that will live to hang her. He back in February of 2025, Pam Bondi told the American people that the client list was sitting on her desk.

You remember the clip? Here it is. The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?

It's sitting on my desk right now to review. Um, that's been a directive um by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.

So, so have you seen anything that you said, "Oh my gosh, not yet." I was asked a question about the client list and my response was it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed meaning the file along with the JFK MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that. Also to the tens of thousands of video they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is what they were never going to be released. never going to see the light of day. To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We can get back to you on that. And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.

So, Jimmy Tobias filed a lawsuit. And here's what he asked for in his in his filing. He said on July 23rd, he submitted a foyer request of Freedom of Information Act to DOJ. It said, "I seek all of the Epstein related records that Bondi was referring to during the interview appearance, including the document or documents she was referring to when she stated, "It is sitting on my desk right now." including the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients that Bondi was asked about dur by the reporter. Okay, so that went through a process. See, Freedom of Information Act is a great procedure for groups like Democracy Forward, the ACLU, Midas Touch, Legal AF, Jimmy Tobias to get the government to produce documents. And you can't point to another process and say, "Oh, I'm going to produce them at a later time um and you'll go have to hunt for them." No, that's why there's a number of Freedom of Information Act cases that

still exist related to Epstein and the disclosure around the Epstein files. Even with the disclosure of the Epstein files, Judge Chutkin has one related to Democracy Forward and communications directly between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. As an example, there's a case up at the Second Circuit Court of Appeals related to the parent company of the National Inquirer. having made about five years ago an Epstein document request. And now you've got Jimmy Tobias. So after this was filed, the judge, Judge Randy Moss, issued a order in January, sorry, in December of 2025 and told the Department of Justice that by January 6th, they needed to identify the documents and explain what was on Pam Bondi's desk.

So this guy named Shaun O'Neal and all of these documents are up on legal AF Substack for you to read. Guy named Shaun O'Neal, chief of staff of the Office of Information Policy and responsible for responding to Freedom of Information Act request filed what he did. And he said he went through the Department of Justice materials and on page four he reveals the following in the filing. Based on the substance of the request, which you heard, they've determined that the OAG, the office of the attorney general, was the appropriate office to search. As a result of this search, OIP was informed, that's his organization, that there are no records responsive to Pliff's request for the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Now, remember, if they don't provide the list, I tell you who will. Survivors will. Lisa Phillips, a client of mine and an Epstein survivor, said as much on Capitol Hill that if they don't produce

the the client list, you know who will? The couple of thousand Epstein survivors and victims who know who abused them, and they will provide the list. Here's a clip of Lisa Phillips.

I would like to announce here today, us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list. We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names we all know who regularly in who are regularly in the Epstein world and it will be done by survivors and for survivors. No one else is involved. Stay tuned for more details.

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That's 50% off your first order at sundaysfordd.com/legal AF50. Sundays fordogs.com/legal AF50 or use code legal AF50 at checkout. So back to their response that the judge found insufficient. He basically declares there is no Epstein client list and that they've done a systemic review of the Epstein material and they've revealed no incriminating client list based on a July 7th memo that was that that the Justice Department set out totally undermining Pam Bondi. Now Pam Bondi is going to be appearing before the House Oversight Committee next week and that's going to be required watching here on Midas Touch and Legal AF will run it live. Now we move to a court hearing in front of uh Judge Moss and he said listen I'm not playing a game of gotcha.

He said this is not sufficient. I want a Pam Bondi attorney general declaration identifying what the heck she was referring to when she said these client documents, Epstein files and client list was sitting on her desk. That's all. And then once I know the answer to that, I'll decide whether the government has complied with its foyer responsibilities yet. But I can't do that until you give me a proper declaration. So, no, Pam Bondi is not off the hook yet. And these are the same questions that the Senate Judiciary Committee led by Senator Senator Blumenthal, uh, the House Democratic Judiciary Committee led by ranking member Jamie Rascin for the Democrats, they're going to be asking her these hard questions.

Where are the client lists? Where are the documents? Now, they've tried to constantly conflate and redefine the Epstein files uh in an elaborate shell game to hide them from the American people. First, the Department of Justice said, and Pam Bondi said, "The files are on our desk, as you heard." Then they said, "No, the files are with federal judges, and we got to go get federal judges. We'd love to produce them, but the federal judges have to give us that permission." So, they said, "Well, we have to go to Florida for some Epstein files, in New York for some Epstein files." and Galain Maxwell's case and Epstein's case and then when those federal judges said we'll release what we have but you have the giant pile of Epstein files they then went to Congress and said oh we'd love to produce them but Congress has to give us the permission which is completely a nonsequittor completely a violation of

separation of powers the documents that we refer to as the Epstein files which is everything in the executive branch not just the department of justice not just the FBI has never resided with Congress has always resided with the executive branch And the executive branch has never needed the congressional branch, the legislative branch to give them permission to release the documents. That was just a ruse. That was just a charade that they tried to pull on the American people. We'd love to produce them, but we're waiting for Congress to give us the permission. So, they wasted more time.

Bad things are happening. Make it happen slower. So, they waited for the Epstein Transparency Act. And then they fought against it until representatives Massie and Kana got 28 shamed effectively five or six Republicans into supporting the 200 and and signing the 218 signatures that are required for the discharge petition to get the Epstein Act on the House floor for a vote and then everybody joined in but what delay delay delay delay delay and still we don't have the things the Treasury Department has like the Internal Revenue revenue service, bank records, how to track the money flow. We just have the DO DOJ and FBI files. But we've got these separate cases that I'm following for you here.

The case in front of Judge Moss, brought by Jimmy Tobias, the case brought by Democracy Forward in front of Judge Chuckkin for the communications between Epstein and Donald Trump. The case brought by the National Inquirer in the Second Circuit to get all the Epstein files. And the and you can see judges are not going to allow the Department of Justice to point to the three million which is half or onetenth of the entire pile of Epstein documents and get away with it. I'll continue to follow it all right here. You're on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. Come over to Legal AF YouTube channel. Hit the free subscribe button. Become a Legal AF Substacker. That's a new word. A Legal AF Substacker. 35% off on Legal AF Substack annual membership going on right now. Till my next report, I'm Michael Popak. Can't get your fill of legal AF? Me neither. That's why we formed the Legal AF Substack. Every time

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Judge ORDERS URGENT RESPONSE by Trump ON EPSTEIN CLAIMS!!!"?

Michael Popak (Host), Pam Bondi (Guest), Jimmy Tobias (Guest), Lisa Phillips (Guest).

What is "Judge ORDERS URGENT RESPONSE by Trump ON EPSTEIN CLAIMS!!!" about?

A federal judge has ordered former President Trump's administration to clarify the whereabouts of the Epstein client list mentioned by Pam Bondi, following a Freedom of Information Act request from independent journalist Jimmy Tobias. After finding the Department of Justice's previous response inadequate, Judge Randy Moss is demanding further explanation and will not accept the production of…

What is mentioned in this MeidasTouch episode?

11 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Attorney General Pam Bondi, Jeffrey Epstein, Legal AF, Jimmy Tobias, Randy Moss, Midas Touch Network. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Judge ORDERS URGENT RESPONSE by Trump ON EPSTEIN CLAIMS!!!"?

The episode runs 14 min; the transcript is about 2,184 words in 19 timestamped sections.

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