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LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/10/2026

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/10/2026", an episode of MeidasTouch published February 12, 2026 (58 min, about 8,590 words). It mentions 21 people, works and ideas, including Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Mara Lago, Ben Mecelis.

What this episode is about

Ben Meiselas critiques a recent hearing involving Pam Bondi, highlighting her defense of Donald Trump amid accusations of covering up a child sex trafficking ring. He expresses disdain for her irrelevant remarks during the proceedings, particularly her focus on stock market statistics while evading crucial questions about accountability and the release of unredacted Epstein files.

Key takeaways

  • When political performance art overshadows addressing child trafficking, humanity loses—welcome to the absurdity of our times.
  • In a world where Dow numbers matter more than justice, are we measuring success or simply baffling apathy?
  • Using stock market highs as a shield against child abuse allegations—now that’s a dangerous economic theory at play.
  • Even amidst chaos, the real scandal remains: how many powerful figures escape unscathed while child victims fade away?
  • When criticizing 'the radical left' distracts from egregious crimes, it’s clear: accountability is the true endangered species.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Vladimir Putin
  2. – 10:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Hely Robson, Donald Trump
  3. – 15:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Ben Mecelis, Midas Touch Network
  4. – 20:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Howard Lutnick
  5. – 25:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Mara Lago
  6. – 30:00: Attorney General Pam Bondi, Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, Ultra Pouches
  7. – 35:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Mara Lago, Ultra Pouches
  8. – 40:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Mara Lago
  9. – 45:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump
  10. – 50:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Donald Trump, Ghislain Maxwell
  11. – 55:00: Midas Touch Network
  12. – 58:22: Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Midas Touch Network

Notable quotes from "LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/10/2026"

  • Russia, whatever the hell that's supposed to. I mean Putin is in the files a lot. Epstein did seem to be involved in lots of communications with Putin and serving as a…
    about Jeffrey Epstein · at
  • And then there is 38,000 references to you in the redacted files, which shouldn't be redacted. And then in the unredacted files, Democratic Congress member and ranking member of the House.
    about Donald Trump · at
  • I hope you've all been able to watch also some of the interviews I've been doing with the survivors. I've been doing long form interviews with survivors. I started with Lisa Phillips.
    about Ben Mecelis · at
  • When this latest batch of documents was released, which is only a partial release, Midas Touch Network and Aaron Parnas and our whole investigative team as we were looking…
    about Midas Touch Network · at
  • With these millions of documents that are being withheld, Pam Bondi is claiming that they're subject to what's called a privilege. So there are redactions and then there are which are just blacking out the names of supposed to be.
    about Attorney General Pam Bondi · at
  • Those ties himself I'm asking you, has the Justice Department specifically asked Secretary Lutnik about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein?
    about Howard Lutnick · at
  • The guy's living in a home where sex trafficking took place. Let me just like repeat it again. Right. The president of the United States, when he's not at the White House, lives at his main.
    about Mara Lago · at
  • Gileain has access to social media, her family operates an account for her. And here's and by the way after invoking the fifth amendment and not testifying at all before the…
    about Ghislain Maxwell · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Jeffrey Epstein — Person · Core referenced subject of investigation/files · 40 mentions · first at
    The episode revolves around “Epstein files,” alleged co-conspirators, and DOJ redactions/withholding; used as the anchor for claims about trafficking networks and political exposure.
  • Donald Trump — Person · Primary referenced political figure / target of allegations · 17 mentions · first at
    Central figure in the episode’s claims about DOJ handling of Epstein-related records and alleged cover-up; repeatedly referenced as directing talking points and benefiting from redactions.
  • Attorney General Pam Bondi — Person · Referenced public official (Attorney General) under criticism · 12 mentions · first at
    Portrayed as leading/defending DOJ redactions and privilege claims around Epstein files; her congressional hearing performance is the episode’s main news hook.
  • Ben Mecelis — Person · Host / main speaker · 2 mentions · first at
    Narrates and frames the episode, provides legal commentary (privilege, deliberative process), and references his interviews with survivors.
  • Howard Lutnick — Person · Referenced government official alleged to have Epstein ties · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as an example of a senior official whose alleged connections should be investigated; repeatedly referenced in questioning about “the island.”
  • Ghislain Maxwell — Person · Referenced co-conspirator / incarcerated figure · 1 mention · first at
    Discussed regarding prison treatment, Fifth Amendment invocation, and an email chain; framed as holding leverage and as a key node in the Epstein network.
  • Jamie Raskin — Person · Referenced lawmaker / oversight figure · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as ranking member making claims about the volume of Trump references in unredacted files and involved in oversight/letters about DOJ monitoring.
    You in the redacted files, which shouldn't be redacted. And then in the unredacted files, Democratic Congress member and ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee Jamie…
  • Virginia L. Giuffre — Person · Referenced survivor / key factual claim anchor · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as being trafficked from Mar-a-Lago as a child; used to support claims about locations and recruitment connected to Trump’s property.
    Virginia Juprey was sex trafficked from Mara Lago. She was a child at Mara Lago. Like I know people, everyone wants to be so careful right now. Allegedly.
  • Vladimir Putin — Person · Referenced foreign leader in alleged file connections · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as appearing in the files and as part of the episode’s argument linking Epstein communications to Russian interests and Trump’s Russia-related narratives.
    Russia, whatever the hell that's supposed to. I mean Putin is in the files a lot. Epstein did seem to be involved in lots of communications with Putin and serving as a…
  • Hely Robson — Person · Referenced survivor interviewee (featured anecdote) · 2 mentions · first at
    Her story is summarized at length (assault at 15, recruitment, West Palm Beach); used to argue DOJ mishandled releases by exposing victims while protecting perpetrators.
    Sexually assaulted at 15 years old, then lured from high school by Epstein, then sexually assaulted by Epstein in West Palm Beach. She was from the Florida area.
  • Congressman Thomas Massie — Person · Referenced lawmaker criticized by Trump (quoted) · 1 mention · first at
    Appears via Trump’s social media quote attacking him; used to illustrate Trump’s messaging and deflection around Epstein.
    That have been proven guilty. Republican loser, sanctimonious rhino congressman Thomas Massie made a total fool of himself yesterday, fighting aimlessly against a hopeless…
  • Lisa Phillips — Person · Referenced survivor interviewee · 1 mention · first at
    Named as the first survivor Ben Mecelis interviewed in his long-form series; used to emphasize survivor-centered reporting.
    I hope you've all been able to watch also some of the interviews I've been doing with the survivors. I've been doing long form interviews with survivors. I started with Lisa Phillips.
  • Anushka de Gorgio — Person · Referenced survivor interviewee · 1 mention · first at
    Listed among survivors interviewed by the host; supports the episode’s focus on survivor accounts and document handling.
    Also some of the interviews I've been doing with the survivors. I've been doing long form interviews with survivors. I started with Lisa Phillips.
  • Thorborn Jagland — Person · Referenced foreign political figure (possibly misnamed) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a Norwegian former top official allegedly charged; used to argue other countries are seeing consequences while the U.S. DOJ claims no further prosecutions.
    We're seeing ramifications happen in other former prime minister of Norway.

Companies & orgs

  • Midas Touch Network — Company · Business focus · 3 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as the network producing the podcast and involved in investigative journalism related to the Epstein files.

Places & events

  • Mara Lago — Place · Setting · 5 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a location where child sex trafficking allegedly took place, associated with Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
  • Florida — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as the location where Heli Robson was sexually assaulted by Epstein.
    Sexually assaulted at 15 years old, then lured from high school by Epstein, then sexually assaulted by Epstein in West Palm Beach. She was from the Florida area.
  • West Palm Beach — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as the location where Heli Robson was sexually assaulted by Epstein.
    When Trump wanted to cover his ass in my opinion that West Palm Beach police chief said that Donald Trump said that yeah he'd be around little girls Epstein and it made Trump said that would make him uncomfortable. Trump knew about it. He's.
  • Culver City — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a location where a member of Congress represents, used in a rhetorical question.
    You're attacking the member of Congress who represents Culver City.

Sponsors

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  • Freedom from Religion Foundation — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at
    Promoted as an organization fighting against the replacement of democracy with Christian nationalism.
    The Constitution. This isn't about attacking religion. It's about defending freedom for everyone. If you're tired of extremists hijacking faith to strip rights, stand up. Visit…

Full transcript with timestamps

Welcome to Ben on breaking news. I'm Ben Mecelis. This is breaking news, the aftershocks of that horrific Pam Bondi uh I don't even know what you want to call it, hearing live fest. It would be an SNL skit if it wasn't uh you know, the subject matter wasn't the fact that she's covering up a child sex trafficking ring with Donald Trump. I mean, it was so utterly humiliating. set aside what political party you're from, Democrat, Republican, independent, something else. I mean, it was just one of the most pathetic things I I've ever witnessed like in in life, 40 years old. In my 40 years of life, I've never witnessed something like that pathetic like in general, like in in any setting, you know, to see somebody there doing like a like Donald Trump stick where she was like, "And let me tell you, the Dow is 50,000." But people are asking her, why are you redacting the names of these co-conspirators, these

powerful business leaders and politicians who were part of this pedophilia cabal? The Dow is 50,000 people like what what what are you talking about? What what what does this have to do? And you live in Culver City. You you're attacking the member of Congress who represents Culver City. What what does that have to do with the fact that the DOJ is now spying on lawmakers who are reviewing the unredacted Epstein files at a special facility set up by the Trump regime to spy on lawmakers reviewing the files that should have been turned over back in December or frankly back last February but are now being unlawfully withheld. Uh what do you think uh AG Bondi about Howard Lutnik being on the island? I mean you know you are from a district with lots of crime and you know Donald Trump fed her those talking points and you know and Donald Trump you know views that as good like like that is what MAGA views as success

and you know Donald Trump posted about it today. He posted this morning. AG Pam Bondi under intense fire from the Trump deranged radical left lunatics was fantastic at yesterday's hearing on the neverending saga of Jeffrey Epstein where the one thing that has been proven conclusively much to their chagrin was that President Donald J. Trump has been 100% exonerated of their ridiculous Russia Russia Russia type charges. Actually, it is the slimeball Democrats, many of them big donors and politicians that have been proven guilty. Republican loser, sanctimonious rhino congressman Thomas Massie made a total fool of himself yesterday, fighting aimlessly against a hopeless agenda of hate and stupidity, as most clearly stated by his crashing job approval numbers. Then he goes on to say, "Nobody cares about Epstein when he was alive. They only cared about him when they thought he could create political harm to a very

popular president who has brought our country back from the brink of extinction. What are you talking about, man?" You know, again, just like what the hell are you even talking about? The brink of extinction? No, you are destroying the country. You and Bondi and your entire cabal represent the Epstein class and you are covering up right now the biggest child sex trafficking ring in the history of humankind. You are attacking the survivors. You're saying this is Russia, Russia, Russia, whatever the hell that's supposed to. I mean Putin is in the files a lot. Epstein did seem to be involved in lots of communications with Putin and serving as a middleman between Putin and powerful interests elsewhere and uh see seeming to suggest in conversations as well that there was lots of financial opportunities, you know, kind of like the ones that like you're trying to do now, Donald, and that you've always been trying to do

with with Russia since you traveled there in the 1980s. like we know we know what you're up to. I mean, Russia, Russia, Russia, you have a photo of you and Vladimir Putin that's hanging up in the Oval Office right above the photo of you and your grandkids. It's you and Putin right there, right in the intersection of the Oval Office and the West Wing. Like like we know like like we have videos of you doing weird things with your lips like licking your lips next to Epstein partying together and and like it's it's we see the videos. You said he's a great guy who likes girls on the younger side. I mean you're on audio bragging about sexually assaulting women and grabbing them by their genitals without consent because you're rich and you say when you're rich you get away with it. You talk about inspecting girls naked at beauty pageantss because you become an inspector if you own the pageantss.

You've been found civily liable for sexual assault. And then there is 38,000 references to you in the redacted files, which shouldn't be redacted. And then in the unredacted files, Democratic Congress member and ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee Jamie Raskin says there's over 1 million references to you. 1 million references to you in the Epstein files and not passing references. I mean, these are references to you in deeply grotesque and disgusting ways. You're not vindicate. How could you look at that and say you're vindicated? You know, and that's where I think the American people are looking at this and they saw Pam Bondi and they were watching it and they were like "Uh the hell are we watching?

What is this regime?" your response to why you're covering up and redacting Trump's name and other names and politicians names and other powerful people's names is that the stock market is over 50,000 and the S&P is over 7,000 which by the way it wasn't when you said those things and even even if it was first off most Americans aren't feeling that as a benefit to them most Americans are being psychologically tortured living paycheck to paycheck if they're lucky lucky enough to get a paycheck and they can't afford to pay their rent right now and they certainly can't afford a mortgage or afford a home. But that's your response to all these very serious questions about covering up child rape and then Bondi refused to even look at the survivors wouldn't look at the survivors and apologize to them. Why wouldn't you just say to the extent the DOJ caused you harm and trauma, we are sorry? By the way, that would to me not be

anywhere near enough. It's a small start, but she refused to do that. She goes, if you have an issue, you can call 1800 FBI. How is it that the FBI and the DOJ have not even contacted a single survivor who all want to meet? So while Pam Bondi and Howard Lutnik and the rest of the cabal the Epstein class, they party at Mara Lago, they party at Club Rose Garden, they party at Don Jr.'s executive branch club where it costs half a million dollars to get access to the White House. While they party at all of these places, you can't spend an hour with the survivors.

You can't you can't do you can't do the most basic of bare minimum. I hope you've all been able to watch also some of the interviews I've been doing with the survivors. I've been doing long form interviews with survivors. I started with Lisa Phillips. Then I interviewed Anushka de Gorgio. Then I interviewed Hely Robson yesterday. We spent about Heli Robson and I spent about what 55 minutes speaking and her story was again incredibly tragic. Sexually assaulted at 15 years old, then lured from high school by Epstein, then sexually assaulted by Epstein in West Palm Beach. She was from the Florida area.

She finally gets out of Epstein's orbit after years of sexual abuse. rebuilds a life. Her boyfriend, who she thought she was going to marry, then gets murdered right around 2006 mysteriously. And they never found who the murderer was. And now she suspects it probably was someone connected with Epstein who killed her boyfriend given all we know now about the the dangers of this cabal. She talked about how the photos, images, underage girls were released by this DOJ. Well, they've covered up the men. The predators got covered up.

And the survivors and the underage children, their identities and photos and abuse photos got leaked. You all probably remember that very, you know, when this latest batch of documents was released, which is only a partial release, Midas Touch Network and Aaron Parnas and our whole investigative team as we were looking through the files, you know, we we would see that we're like, you have an entire stack of images of underage girls right here. We had to reach out to them and say, take take that. What are you doing? Take that down. What the what the how did you not had you not you had one job? This is the exact stuff you shouldn't be. What are you doing?

And they then they removed that. But then they also removed reports, internal reports from the DOJ about their memo of future co-conspirators and things that shouldn't have been removed. One thing that's not getting enough attention from Pam Bondi's hearing, which I want to emphasize here with these millions of documents that are being withheld, Pam Bondi is claiming that they're subject to what's called a privilege. So there are redactions and then there are which are just blacking out the names of supposed to be survivors but a lot of them have been leaked but they're blacking out the names of people but there are wholesale documents that are being withheld on the basis of privilege. So when people say where's the FBI interviews with the victims and survivors DOJ FBI are withholding it claiming it's subject to a privilege. Do you remember a few months back I warned about that and I was saying remember I used the

word deliberative process privilege. Deliberative process is a privilege that's used in an active criminal case which basically says the criminal defendant can't request the internal communications of the FBI with the DOJ lawyers during an active case. That kind of makes sense though, right? During an active criminal case, you have to turn over all of the evidence, which is called Brady material. That could be exculpatory if you're the prosecution to the defendant. But your internal communications, your playbook as prosecutors, your strategy doesn't get turned over, right? You wouldn't want the criminal defendant, potentially the bad guy to get access, right, to the playbook that the prosecutor, their internal emails. What should we do here? Which witness are we going to call first? Should we call this expert? What's that expert going to charge? Right? That's deliberative process. Why is that term it's

deliberating the process behind the prosecution? But so I want you to understand why is there a privile I you know I teach this at law school. What to to undergrads and law students. Why would there be a privilege at all? you may be asking because in a normal criminal case, you wouldn't want those types of communications um being released. But in an Epstein transparency act case where the criminal case, the deliberative process is over, right, and the law requires the production. There isn't a deliberative process. What there's not there's no deliberating at this point.

By the way, I think that there after what we've seen, there should be some deliberating on future people who need to be prosecuted right now and criminally investigated who are in this file. right in Norway, their former prime minister, uh their former uh one of their other top ministers as well, um Thorbron Jagland has been formally charged with being a part of Epstein's cabal. We're seeing ramifications happen in other former prime minister of Norway. It's a big position. But the Trump DOJ said there's no further pro. Let's use their words, right? There's no further prosecutions.

They say that there's no other bad actors, which we all know is Putting it lightly, criminal Let's just say what it is. So, by their own admission, there's nothing to deliberate to assert a deliberative process privilege. So, I wanted to go a little law school professor on you to explain, but that's how they're withholding all of these other documents. And that just also goes to show you what this coverup is like. So, Trump says Bondi did incredible. She was amazing. She was great. Okay, let me show you what I thought were some of the key moments. I'm not going to show you all the clips because you've seen them now a lot of times, but there are a few key moments that I think are instructive that bear mentioning again.

First, Congresswoman Becca Balant. We don't play that many clips from her in the past. She did an incredible job. Her questioning was on point. Her questioning was on very specific people. Lutnik Felon Fineberg Lutnik Commerce Secretary, Felon or Felon, Navy Secretary, Fineberg, big deputy position in in Trump's in Trump's government. Are you going to be investigating these people? Have you reached out to these people? Right? We these are names we know for by the way Trump's one of the main people who should be investigated by the DOJ uh after after these files were released before these files based on what we knew already but let's watch first with balance crossexamination here at Bondi let's play it

or no has the justice department asked secretary letnik about his ties to Epstein

excuse me secretary let um has addressed those ties himself I'm asking you, has the Justice Department specifically asked Secretary Lutnik about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein?

He has addressed those ties himself. Has the DOJ asked Secretary Failen about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein?

I don't know whether he has addressed those or not. Has the deputy um sec has deputy secretary Fineberg talked to Department of Justice about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein? Yes or no? Has the Department of Justice talked to Secretary, Deputy Secretary Fineberg about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein, which are clearly spelled out in the files. It's a very simple question. It's not a trick question. I'm just asking you.

Yeah. I'm stunned that you want to continue talking about Oh my gosh. My time. I'm asking you not a trick question, a simple question.

Okay. So, what is clear is we have evidence. Do you know who Chris is? Senior. We have evidence that three senior officials within the Trump administration have ties to Jeffrey Epstein. And what I ties mean

I can conclude from what you are saying that you have not talked to them. What does ties mean?

I think Americans would be shocked to learn that you are not interested in talking with these officials who have ties to Jeffrey Epste. Across the world, prominent men who've been exposed in the files have resigned their jobs in disgrace. And that's a good first start. And that same same standard should apply here.

And Americans want accountability. Who is Chris M? Was the president aware? Please stop talking. It is not your time to ask questions. It is not your time. I'm reclaiming my time, Mr. Chair. One second. Time belongs time belongs to the JA from Vermont. What are ties? What do you mean by ties? You know, you mean us? We mean that Howard Lutnik took his little children to the island where child sex trafficking was taking place. He brought his kids to that island and he brought his friend's children to that island. After he previously said that when he met Epstein one time in 2005, he knew that Epstein was a predator. He knew that Epstein was the worst person out there. That's what he said when he met him in 2005. He knew. So then in 2012, you bring your children to the island, to the child rape island.

That's where you bring the kids. And then you do a business deal with the guy a few days later. And then you think you should still be the commerce secretary representing business interests of the United States abroad. Do you think like would you want to do business with somebody who was like that? Would you want to do business with somebody? My dogs are angry in the background. They don't want to they don't want to show you the next Show you the next clip right here. This is one of the things I want you to focus on about the privilege issue. Remember I talked about deliberative process privilege? Here's an email that Congress member Dan Goldman holds up, which I believe is a 2009 email that is forwarded from Epstein to Gilain. And it's an email though from Epstein's lawyers and Trump's lawyers. And what I believe is behind the redactions based on what all the my sources tell me. It's basically Trump's lawyers telling

Epstein's lawyers, "We know that Epstein was never actually a member of Mara Lago, so he couldn't have been kicked out of Mara Lago. He was always just a guest." And so this contradicts Donald Trump's statement that he kicked out Epstein from Mara Lago because he was never actually even a member to begin with. And that, I believe, is what's behind these redactions. I believe what happened was Trump's lawyers offered basically a statement an email averment in lie of even an affidavit or having to be deposed because I think his deposition was going to be taken which I wish it was taken but it wasn't taken where they provided the background about his relationship with Epstein I think that's in this email why would that be redacted They're making a claim. The DOJ is deliberative process. Here, let's play this clip.

I also found an email that I have right here from Jeffrey Epstein to Gain Maxwell that was unredacted and it included notes of statements that Donald Trump made about his prior relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, there is no reason for this to be hidden from the American people. There is no privilege. There is no attorney client privilege. And I see you're checking with your staff. And I can assure you staff, this is not under attorney client privilege because it was sent from Jeffrey Epstein to Gileain Maxwell.

Will you commit to publicly providing the unredacted version of this so that the American people can understand the extent of Donald Trump's lies about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? You're about as good of a lawyer today as you were when you tried to impeach President Trump in 2016. Have you apologized for that in 2019?

So, will you will you unredact this? Will you counsel on that? Privileged. I'm asking you, will you unredact this?

Privileged. Privileged. Of course, I look forward to discussing this more. Privileged. Privileged. Privileged. You you you heard what she said there. One of the things that Congress member Dan Goldman was pointing out though, just to give you another kind of law professor look into this, he's a former prosecutor. He knows the rules of evidence uh very well. Let's even assume it was attorney client privilege or deliberative process privilege, right? internal communications within the Department of Justice or let's say an attorney client communication.

You know, I I'm not even sure what the attorney client claim can be because if it's in furtherance of a crime, there's something called the crime fraud exception, but and and I'm not really sure why Epstein's and Epstein's lawyer's communication should be privileged. But set that all aside. The moment Epstein sends that to Gilain, there's no more privilege. The privilege gets waved because it was forwarded to the client. The client holds the privilege. And when you communicate it to a third party, now it's waved. His message to Gileain is no longer protected or shielded by any type any type. So when she goes, "You're as gun.

I'm a lawyer. If I gave that fact pattern to a firstyear student of an evidence law class and they said that was subject to a privilege, they would get an F right away. It's the most basic the most basic legal concept. So why are they redacting that document? But I want people to focus on that document specifically. There's a lot to focus on and a lot we want out there. That's one of the documents that we need out there because it is specifically about I think the issue that he was never kicked out of the club. That's what I believe that's in there. Let me just show you this clip.

Congress member Nagus from Colorado, lawyer, great cross-examiner. Watch what he did with Pam Bondi here. Play this clip. General Bondi, six days ago, you posted online, quote, "If you come for law enforcement, the Trump administration will come for you." End quote. I want to show you just a brief video. It's about 30 seconds, and I'll ask you a couple questions about it.

You guys are disgusting, man. Hey, you guys are disgusting. I'm from I'm former law enforcement. You're disgusting. You are the Nazi. You are the gtopper. You can't see it cuz you're chasing your pension, right? Pinching your entire, right? That's what runs your life. You retire.

The sad thing is they're not even going to get their shame on you. Attorney General Bondi, that man works for you now, right? Who was that congressman?

The man in that video. The one who was in the police warned body cam footage. The one allegedly yelling kill him at police officers on January 6th.

His name is Jared Weise. He does work for us. He works for you at the Department of Justice.

He does. This is an individual whom a federal grand jury indicted for two felonies and four misdemeanors related to his participation in the attack on January 6th. One of those charges was forcibly assaulting, resisting opposing impeding intimidating, and interfering with police with the intent to commit another felony. This is who you choose as the chief law enforcement officer of the United States of America to hire at the Department of Justice. Someone on video yelling kill him at police officers. Right.

I believe he was pardoned by President Trump. Oh, he was pardoned. You're right. You're right. Pardoned by President Trump for his offense. Pardoned for yelling kill him at police officers. And yet you expect hardworking police officers across the country to believe that you take law enforcement seriously. You could imagine the reaction of so many folks across the country hearing the chief law enforcement officer of the United States refuse to even condemn what that individual whom you've now hired did. But the people who are at the DOJ are the people who yelled, "Kill the police."

And you wonder why it's such a lawless regime. And you watch her and you see her behavior. And again, I don't if if you thought that was good, then I I truly can't even there's no hope. There there's to be fair and when we we'll talk about this when we come back I've been seeing a lot of right-wing podcasters and I study all of this a lot of MAGA ultra magga from Tim P to Nick Fuentes to Andrew Scholes all of them you know saying that that was horrible and that Trump is horrible now and it's just fascinating to see this shift happen and it's accelerating and we're seeing it accelerate and there's a lot of a lot of reasons for it and I think the biggest is the Epstein files this in the sense that it I think broke the hole in the armor of MAGA and allowed people to start saying if you're lying about this is it's all a lie it's one big lie when you say that prescription drug prices are down lie

when you say there's no inflation lie. When you say you brought us back from extermination or extinction, lie, lie, lie. Just everything, every every word, every single word from the guy, everything he says, everything he says is a lie. He's a crazy person. He's a liar. He's a dangerous, vile felon. He's a sexual abuser. Found civily liable for sexual abuse. You know, he's a bankruptor. He's a fraud. He's criminal. He's a bad guy. He's delusion. He's demented. like a demented sick human. Take our first quick break of the show.

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Play the clip. Yeah, please. Mr. President, were you aware that Secretary of Commerce visited Epstein's Island? And do you continue to have

No, I wasn't aware of it. No, I didn't. I actually haven't spoken to him about it. I wasn't. But from what I hear, he was there with his wife and children. And I guess in some cases, some people were. I wasn't I was never there. Somebody will someday say that I was never there. Uh yeah, please.

This announce Yeah. Because Mara Lago was like Epstein Island. Like you you were kind of living on your own version of that in a way. I mean Mara Lago objectively, undisputably was one of the sites where the child sex trafficking was taking place. Not even like I have to I don't have to say alleged. It's not alleged. It happened. Virginia Juprey was sex trafficked from Mara Lago. She was a child at Mara Lago. Like I know people, you know, everyone wants to be so careful right now. Allegedly. The guy's living in a home where sex trafficking took place. Let me just like repeat it again. Right. The president of the United States, when he's not at the White House, lives at his main residence, which is actually a club where sex trafficking happened.

Uh hello. Hello. Like, that's you're you're you're okay with that? Like like that's an undisputed fact. That's where Virginia Guprey worked as a child and that's where she was recruited from. Trump can say he has no knowledge of it. He can make that argument. But in his statements to at least the Palm Beach police chief who claimed he spoke with Donald sometime in 2006 after Epstein was arrested, not before. after the arrest when Trump wanted to cover his ass in my opinion that West Palm Beach police chief said that Donald Trump said that yeah he'd be around little girls Epstein and it made Trump said that would make him uncomfortable. Trump knew about it. He's also a liar about everything but but but of course he knew about it. What do you think was happening when Donald Trump and Epstein would bring girls between the ages of 14, 15 to 22, they'd bring them over to Mara Lago uh and they would tell them that they

were there for modeling events like we know that happened and it would just be Donald and Epstein there. According to one of the people in the modeling industry who brought these girls there, what what do you think? What do you think was going down? What do you think was happening there? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, the guy who says he grabs women by their genitals because he's rich? You think maybe you think the guy Epstein who was the biggest child sex trafficker in like human history being your friend hosting events like that like you don't like what do you think like what do you think happened?

It's stuff like that too for me as someone who reports on this. It's like, you know, we we we know like why why do we have to act allegedly allegedly allegedly allegedly? I could just stick with what's in the documents, right? I could read the document because go over what Donald Trump just said. What Donald Trump just said, he didn't even ask Howard. Just think about that from a leadership perspective. Imagine you ran a company and it it turns out the person in your company after saying that they knew they were on notice, right? Lutnik's whole shtick that he was on notice in 2005 that Epstein was involved in horrific conduct. So I never saw him again until you brought your little children and other children from other families to the to the island. So then you learn that about a coworker of yours if you're the boss.

You don't you don't even ask after you know hey Howard what what what happened? You you don't want to have that conversation even. You're just okay with that, right? So at some point too you are ratifying in in law going back to law professor mode there's a concept called ratification and let's just assume that Donald Trump knew nothing about this right just as men in black whatever they called that thing then Men in Black that would erase your memory but now we just start today and or this week and Donald Trump sees that about Lutnik. Now you are on notice and then you don't do anything. You take no action in the law. That in and of itself is called ratification and and it's heinous and and that's one of the things that uh you know that we're seeing in front of our eyes right now. I want to show you a few more things. Uh, first I'll just show you from that same press conference.

Trump is asked, "So, okay, you think that there's nothing wrong with Lutnik bringing children to an island where children get raped? Nothing wrong with that, Donald. Okay. any ramifications for the person who worked for you, who you claim was the person who photoshopped former President Obama and former Michelle Obama's faces onto apes. Any ramifications? Are they going to get fired? Any discipline? What's happened to that? Here's what Donald Trump says. Let's play it. Mr. President, have you fired or disciplined that staffer who posted the video from your account that included the Obamas?

No, I haven't. That was a video on, as you know, voter fraud and fairly long video and they had a little piece and had to do with the Lion King. It's been very well uh it's been shown all over the place long before that was posted. But that was a that was a very strong uh if you and I'm sure you saw it a very strong piece on voter fraud and the piece that you're talking about was all over the place many times I believe for years. Yeah, please.

It was a very strong piece on voter fraud. You know, that's why I just always go back to it. It's like it's it's not a Democrat, Republican, or independent issue. If you like that guy, if you like that guy, you're a horrible person. Like, it's just that simple. You are a bad person if you like that guy. Wh what what the hell? Now, I'm going to show you a a clip here. Jeremy, when I show this clip, just do look for look for what I'm going to do, Jeremy, because I don't want to show the full clip of it. Um, but I want to give people a flavor of what's going on in the right-wing media ecosystem, but I don't want to play a two-minute clip of Nick Fuentes, but I just want to show people what's happening and how right-wing, ultra magga, ultraright-wing extremist view Donald Trump right now. So, let's just play a little bit of this clip and then just watch for me, Jeremy. Let's play Fuentes first.

Trump is delusional. Okay, you need to know this. Trump is sick. He is a delusional person. I don't know if it's his age. I don't know if it's his personality. I don't know if it's because he's been in this reality distortion field for so long. But I know firsthand from people that talk to the president, from people that know the president, this guy is delusional. You pick up the phone and talk to the president. You go to a meeting and talk to the president. And I know people that have done this. And it's hours of self- congratulations, hours of this is my most successful administration. We've done more than anybody. The East Wing is going great. We've got the best numbers.

It's all the So, this is like the mad king. This guy is sick. Heaves his own press. He is in his own world. Out here in reality, everybody knows this is a disaster. Everybody knows immigration's a disaster. The economy is a disaster. The foreign policy is a disaster. It's a giant disappointment. This Epstein thing is a catastrophe. He doesn't know that. Now, because of that, and because of his cult-like control over the administration, he is advising his people to run this playbook. So, I'm sure that

Okay, let me show you Tim P just to give you a sample of what's going on out there. Here, play this clip.

I ain't cutting Trump any slack now that we know that they've covered up the co-conspirator conspirator documents. There's a document saying that they were investigating co-conspirator Epstein. There's photos and videos of minors and children. Dan Bonino was like, "Look, a lot of these things were hearsay and you know, fake tips that were uncorroborated. All of that is true, but there's still no excuse for them not exposing these deep, dark, corrupt pedos." Like, I can understand. I can understand Bill Gates didn't do anything criminal if it is true that he got an STD from Russian hookers and gave it to his wife on on accident. That's not illegal. He got divorced. I can understand why it's embarrassing and I can respect someone saying, "Please don't release that email. It's not material to anybody. It's just just internal drama that's gross and embarrassing."

Yeah. But there's other stuff in there like that's already being brought up that I would say is shocking to the conscience that Trump called it a hoax

or Andrew Scholes. Play the clip. Galain speaks with Trump's former lawyer and then all of a sudden now she's in a nice cushy place and all of a sudden she's pleading the fifth

and she's saying that's lab if you let me out. She No, she says if he gives me uh

immunity immunity or clemency is that the word? Um what's the difference between clemency and immunity?

I don't know. I thought clemency you take away the charges. Immunity is just like uh

you still have the charges but anything I say can't be used against me. Got it. Okay. So, she wants Clemency to talk to clear Trump's name. And it's like, well, if his name was clear,

why do you need clemency before clemencies after? That's what they're saying. Got it. Okay. But like to me, like, is she shrewd enough to indict him that way? Like, is she smart enough to go, "Yeah, I'll clear Trump if you give me clemency." Well, if he's clear, why are you even putting that on the table?

That's right. Like just she might be screwed enough, but she doesn't have to be because her attorneys are meeting with her being like, "Hey, just say this."

You know what I mean? Like you have enough smart people working on her behind. Let me show you as it relates to Gilain the questioning by Democratic Congresswoman Ross who did a very good job here and she cross-examined Pam Bondi on why did you move Gileain to a clubfed VIP section in Camp Brian, Texas? Why did you give her this upgrade? Put her in the best facility out there. to which Bondi says, "I don't know how she got there. That wasn't me." But then there was a moment where Bondi forgot her script for just a single moment. And I'll show you the ramifications of not remembering the full script. Let's see if you can find out where Bondi breaks character for just a moment. Let's play it. Attorney General Bondi, I think you and pretty much everybody else here and throughout the country believes that convicted sex offenders don't deserve special treatment or privileges in prison. And yet, Galain Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's

co-conspirator, received perk after perk in prison. In July, she had a two-day interview with your deputy and President Trump's former defense attorney, Todd Blanch. Just days after that, Maxwell was transferred from a federal correctional institution in Florida to a minimum security camp in Texas, which she as a sex offender would normally be ineligible for. At this new facility, as the ranking member talked about, um, and by the way, it's nicknamed clubfed. We've heard reports that she's been afforded special privileges, puppy time, private workouts, personal mail, secretarial services. Um, Attorney General Bondi, does a convicted sex offender like Elaine Maxwell deserve special treatment and prison in and privileges in prison? Yes or no?

Let me be crystal clear on this. No. And let me let me let me keep going. No, let me keep going.

Perfect. Well, I I did not know she was transferred. I asked you yesterday, she was not transferred to a lower.

Mr. Chairman, please stop the clock and remind the witness of the rules. One rule she needs to understand.

I'm glad that we're agreeing. So, when we're agreeing, we can move on to some other things.

Yeah. Later in that clip as well, Bondi says something like Gileain should rot in prison or either she should die in prison, which was the one moment there actually of all of the stuff that Bondi said. That was the one moment and it was that that I thought was like a normal moment, but then she went on and denied that she had any knowledge of it. But she goes, "No, I want Guileain to um, you know, to to serve the rest of her life and die in prison." So then Gileain responds right away. And yes, Gileain has access to social media, her family operates an account for her. And uh here's and by the way after invoking the fifth amendment and not testifying at all before the house even though she spoke with Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney turned deputy attorney general Todd Blanch.

This was the statement posted by Gilain. America's attorney general told a House Judiciary Committee meeting today she hopes Gileain Maxwell dies in prison. That is an extraordinary thing for a nation's chief law enforcement officer to wish. It sounds less like justice than blood lust. Gileain is serving a 20-year sentence, not a life term. To hope it proves fatal blurs the line between punishment and revenge. The Justice Department is already under scrutiny for its handling of the Epstein files and now faces a simpler question.

And if the guardian of the law talks like a shock jock, what faith should the public have in the system she runs? What happened to prosecution without passion? To prosecution without prejudice. Keep that up there though, so people can see. You realize that Gileain is doing what Epstein did to people and which is what Trump does to other countries. Like you realize, do we all see what's happening here? This is a shakeddown and this is coded language right here. Right. What she's saying is this is a message to Trump, not a message to Bondi. And the message to Trump is your Justice Department is already under scrutiny for its handling of the Epstein files. If the guardian of the law talks like a shock jock, what faith should the public have in the system? She runs like you all realize that she's saying, "You want me to spill the beans? You want me to start giving the road map to some of the other

documents out there?" Don't forget that I hold the cards here against you, Donald. That's what this if if you think that this statement is not that, then that's naity because that's clearly what that statement is saying. Gilain likes Todd Blanch and also what G because that's who she spoke to. What I believe is happening here is Gileain wants Todd Blanch to be the attorney general. Todd Blanch wants to be the attorney general. Pam Bandi was trying to throw Todd Blanch under the bus for moving Gilain from Tallahassee to the facility in Texas, the club fed. So, there was a lot of things happening there behind the scenes where Bondi couldn't say Blanch was the one who did it, but she was basically saying Blanch was doing it.

Bondi wants to help Trump with the cover up, but where Bondi lost sight of the script was, I think she hates Blanch. And so that's where she said she should rot in prison. Not because she thinks Gileain should die in prison, but because she thought that was a good attack on Blanch. And then Gileain is stepping up, boom, with the statement right away. Also saying, "I did what you wanted me to do when Blanch spoke to me. I invoke the fifth and now your AG is out there making these types of statements. I better hope, Donald, that that's just performative and she's just saying that and our deal is not going to be ruined.

And I think she's signaling to Donald, you know, you you you've got to make some statements now to like give me the assurance that we're still on the same page here. Now, you could call me a conspiracy theorist and many people thought that my language about what was going on in the files and this or that was hyperbolic. It's all true. Everything was all true because they weren't wild predictions. I mean, I litigated this is what I did for my whole life before doing Midas Dutch. I litigated these I represented survivors in cases like this. I I sued massive Ponzi scheme people and I went through documents that had 20 million documents or three terabyte. It's what I did. It's what I did before starting Might as Touch. So it's you know this was this these are type of investigations that I would do. These are the types of cases I would handle.

It's just it's so obvious it's so obvious what is happening here. And then when you see the testimony of Lutnik and when you see the testimony of Bondi and you just see how these people are behaving, it's so obvious. I mean, isn't it so obvious to you what's going down here? Some people are asking what types of dogs I have. I have a toy poodle and I have a Maltese. So, I have two dogs. The toy poodle is named Takito and the is called Chakito and the Maltise is Takito. So, the dogs are named Takito and Chakito. And if you're wondering, isn't that confusing? And that the dogs get confused over, it's accurate. It's it's it's I didn't think through that step. I just I like tacos. Favorite food is is tacos. My mom would make tacos growing up, Tuesday, sometimes Thursday.

And I like tacos. So, takito. and then Chakito, you know, it's cute. So, that's what their names are. Um, I want to remind everybody um that the Brother show will be taking place tonight. The show I do, the brother podcast I do is also tonight at 8 Eastern, 5 Pacific. Make sure love to see you there. Take we do a brother banter, different take, different perspectives obviously. Um, we just come at it from from from the lens of of of three brothers. So, make sure you watch that. I will be excited to see everybody there live tonight. Check out our Substack midasplus.com.

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What did you make of the DOJ evidently tracking search histories of your colleagues as you search for the past?

It was deeply deeply disturbing that Pam Bondi had uh and they had preserved essentially as you mentioned search histories of sitting members of Congress on the Epstein files. They were looking at what members of Congress were looking at and they were using that importantly as ammunition against them, their own search histories against them in a hearing uh by Pam Bang. I think that

powerful power I I'll show Congresswoman Gyipole also because when she was being questioned that's where we were able to see that her search history was captured by the DOJ. And then we learned that all of the search history of members of Congress who were given the access to the unredacted Epstein files, they were being spied on by the executive branch. Just think about it. One branch is spying on the other branch that has oversight functions without knowledge or notice, which is illegal wiretapping, by the way. It's a crime. It's a felony.

It's a felony. Um, but here's what she has to say. Let's play it. What did you make of uh the DOJ apparently monitoring search histories as it is? so outrageous. I think we just put out a tweet on it. I mean, I found out about it because a reporter called me and wanted to know about the emails that I had searched. And I was like, "How did you know what emails I searched?" I mean, there is a separation of powers for a reason. This is spying. This is the DOJ spying on members of Congress and what we search. So, we are putting together a letter with uh ranking member Rascin and others on the committee to say we need a full accounting of what you searched for, what you're using it for, and you need to stop that. We need a new process that assures us that you are not spying on members of Congress.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/10/2026"?

Ben Meiselas (Host), Pam Bondi (Guest), Howard Lutnik, Jamie Raskin (Guest), Dan Goldman (Guest).

What is "LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/10/2026" about?

Ben Meiselas critiques a recent hearing involving Pam Bondi, highlighting her defense of Donald Trump amid accusations of covering up a child sex trafficking ring. He expresses disdain for her irrelevant remarks during the proceedings, particularly her focus on stock market statistics while evading crucial questions about accountability and the release of unredacted Epstein files.

What is mentioned in this MeidasTouch episode?

21 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Mara Lago, Ben Mecelis, Midas Touch Network. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/10/2026"?

The episode runs 58 min; the transcript is about 8,590 words in 90 timestamped sections.

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