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LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/5/2026
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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/5/2026", an episode of MeidasTouch published February 5, 2026 (58 min, about 9,141 words). It mentions 24 people, works and ideas, including Donald Trump, Artificial Intelligence, Ben Myelis, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton.
What this episode is about
The discussion focuses on the alarming surge in U.S. layoffs, with January 2026 witnessing the highest job cuts since the 2009 Great Recession, raising concerns about the decoupling of employment from economic growth and reflecting a troubling labor market amid a growing GDP. Analysts draw parallels between the current situation and past economic downturns, highlighting the adverse effects of a "Trump economy" and the challenges facing workers, particularly in the wake of unregulated AI advancements.
Key takeaways
- January layoffs hit a 17-year high—proof that even job security can sometimes take a vacation.
- GDP is growing, but so are layoffs—just ask the billionaires cashing in on AI while workers suffer.
- The starkest irony? The hiring recession is deafening as companies hoard cash like it's going out of style.
- AI's potential is vast, but it’s a double-edged sword—it's transforming jobs while edging people out.
- Crypto's rollercoaster is a wild ride, but losing two trillion can leave even the bravest investors feeling queasy.
Who speaks in this episode?
- Ben Meiselas (Host) · 49 min speaking
- Boris (Guest) · 3 min speaking
- Heather Long · 1 min speaking
- Luis Lucas (Guest) · 2 min speaking
- Scott Besson (Guest) · 1 min speaking
What is discussed, and when
- – 5:00: Great Recession, Artificial Intelligence, Donald Trump, Ben Myelis
- – 10:00: Donald Trump, Crypto, Virginia, World Liberty Financial
- – 15:00: Virginia, Donald Trump, Texas, California
- – 20:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Midas Touch Network
- – 25:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton
- – 35:00: Masa Chips, Quint, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton
- – 40:00: Donald Trump
- – 45:00: Donald Trump, Scott Besson
- – 55:00: Donald Trump
Notable quotes from "LIVE: Ben Meiselas RESPONDS to BREAKING NEWS!! 2/5/2026"
That's not a good thing when all of these comparisons as it relates to people being laid off and people not getting the manufacturing jobs that they were promised and a lot of comparisons.
about Donald Trump · atThe decoupling of employment from economic growth. And that is another way of saying that the billionaires are getting richer doing deals with each other over AI while screwing…
about Artificial Intelligence · atTerrified about what's happening. And you have that taking place. At the same time, ICE and Border Patrol Gustapo continued to terrorize and torture people across this country.…
about ICE · atTalk more about that. But crypto, have you seen what's going on in the crypto market right now? Tanking. Crypto has lost$ two trillion dollars in value since October's 2025 peak as a sell-off.
about Crypto · atMore. Today we are leveling the playing field. There are not these are not ordinary times and Virginia will not sit on the sidelines while it happens. We made a promise to…
about Virginia · atWhere now all of a sudden he's saying that Bill Clinton is his buddy. Right now that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have agreed to testify publicly before the House Oversight Committee and said, We want it to happen publicly.
about Bill and Hillary Clinton · atGo public and let we'll do a whole hearing on Epstein. We want to do an Epstein hearing. Hillary Clinton's What are you asking me about?
about Hillary Clinton · atPay himself 10 billion dollars of our money. Then I'm going to show you what Treasury Secretary Scott Besson testified today when he was asked about those about this settlement. So, first let me show you Trump. Let's play it.
about Scott Besson · at
Who and what is mentioned in this episode?
People
- Donald Trump — Person · Primary subject of criticism / central political figure referenced · 15 mentions · first at
The episode frames multiple storylines (jobs/layoffs, Epstein coverage, cognitive-test interview, IRS lawsuit, gerrymandering) as consequences of or reactions to Trump’s actions and rhetoric. - Ben Myelis — Person · Host / main narrator · 1 mention · first at
He anchors the episode, introduces topics, plays clips, and provides commentary; he also references his own prior reporting/interviews (Epstein deep dives, interview with Boris).I'm Ben Meelis and this is breaking news. We've got a lot to discuss starting with the really bad jobs report this morning. January layoffs surged to a 17-year high as US employers announced.
- Bill and Hillary Clinton — Person · Referenced political figure (used in Trump/Epstein narrative) · 11 mentions · first at
Discussed in the context of House Oversight testimony about Epstein and Trump’s shifting rhetoric (“I like Bill Clinton”) amid scrutiny of Trump’s own Epstein-file mentions. - Hillary Clinton — Person · Referenced political figure (Oversight/Epstein hearing context) · 6 mentions · first at
Presented as requesting public testimony and transparency; her statement is quoted as a rebuttal to what the host describes as a contrived Oversight effort to distract from Trump. - Scott Besson — Person · Referenced government official (Senate hearing witness) · 1 mention · first at
Cited as Treasury Secretary testifying about Trump’s $10B IRS-related lawsuit and the mechanics of who would pay (Treasury general account/taxpayers) and DOJ’s role. - Heather Long — Person · Referenced expert (economist/commentator) · 1 mention · first at
Quoted to support the episode’s labor-market framing: a ‘hiring recession’ with falling job openings and anemic hiring rates.Significantly adversely harmed by this Trump economy. as Heather Long, an economist writes, the US hiring recession shows no sign of ending. Job openings fell to 6.5 million in…
- Alex Jeffrey Prey — Person · Referenced victim (alleged Border Patrol killing) · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as someone the host says was murdered by Border Patrol; used to condemn ICE/Border Patrol conduct and leadership (Greg ‘Bavino’).People hate Bavino right now from all political parties at this point.
Companies & orgs
- ICE — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the context of political and social controversy. - Palunteer — Company · Business focus · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned in the context of political and AI-related discussions.Agenda is talking about the threats posed by AI. And for those who don't know his background, he worked in Palunteer for like five years. and he resigned, quit from Palunteer…
- World Liberty Financial — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the context of financial transactions and political connections.Well, World Liberty Financial just sold $5 million worth of Bitcoin. One of the things that they were doing when Bitcoin was at its highest price, they were hoarding Bitcoin when Bitcoin was like.
- UAE — Company · Business focus · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned in the context of financial transactions and political connections.Know, the one that UAE funneled hundreds of millions of dollars into in what appeared to be a quidd proquo where UAE then got our most highly classified semiconductor chips. Do you remember?
- Midas Touch Network — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned as the platform covering political events.This network about because we were talking about, Epstein files since this network was founded. We were doing deep dives, Melania's dark past, Trump's dark past videos. I was…
Concepts & topics
- Artificial Intelligence — Concept · Core topic · 3 mentions · first at
Discussed as a significant factor in job market changes and economic impacts. - Crypto — Concept · Key argument · 3 mentions · first at
Highlighted as a volatile market with significant financial losses recently. - KGB — Concept · Key argument · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned in the context of political and espionage discussions.The links between Putin and the Epstein files and Epstein's communications with Russia and whether Epstein was involved in a KGB kind of a honey trap network right there. We've…
Places & events
- Great Recession — Event · Key argument · 4 mentions · first at
Used as a comparison point for current economic conditions.108,435 layoffs in January. That's up 205% from December and the highest January total since 2009 during the Great Recession right after Lehman Brothers went bankrupt. There's a lot of comparisons to right now and 2009.
- Virginia — Place · Setting · 7 mentions · first at
Discussed in the context of political strategies and democratic efforts. - Texas — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the context of political gerrymandering and electoral strategies.So now what actually could have happened is the Republicans in Texas creating multiple more Democratic seats possibly by diluting what they thought were safe Republican seats.
- COVID-19 pandemic — Event · Key argument · 1 mention · first at
Used as a comparison point for current economic conditions.Recession shows no sign of ending. Job openings fell to 6.5 million in December. That is the lowest level since September 2020 during COVID. So these comparisons are COVID great recession.
- California — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the context of political strategies and electoral responses.You can win. And he's a loser. He's been a lifelong loser who has just conned people his entire life. So, you got to give a hat tip to California Governor Gavin Newsome for…
- New York State Assembly — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned in the context of political discussions and interviews.Care and also having unregulated AI screw over we the people. I just did an interview with Assembly Member Boris over in New York State Assembly District 73. He's running for…
Sponsors
- Masa Chips — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
Promoted as a high-quality snack product.They're called Masa Chips. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that these are the best damn tortilla chips I have ever tasted. Yes, they're seed oil free and made with 100% grass-fed beef tallow, which already puts them in a totally.
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- Vandy Crisps — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at
Promoted as a sister product to Masa Chips.I finish those super quickly. I got my second favorite here, the lime. You got to try them all, honestly. And if you love masa, you will love Vandy crisps.
Full transcript with timestamps
Welcome to Ben Myelis on breaking news. I'm Ben Meelis and this is breaking news. We've got a lot to discuss starting with the really bad jobs report this morning. January layoffs surged to a 17-year high as US employers announced 108,435 layoffs in January. That's up 205% from December and the highest January total since 2009 during the Great Recession right after Lehman Brothers went bankrupt. There's a lot of comparisons to right now and 2009. That's not a good thing when all of these comparisons as it relates to people being laid off and uh people not getting the manufacturing jobs that they were promised and a lot of comparisons to 2009. Economists are saying things like this sobering data from Challenger.
That's the group that does these reports. And by the way, we have to rely on groups like Challenger because our own government is not doing reports that are uh up to the level that they once were. Sobering data from Challenger on the US labor market. Announced job cuts in January more than doubled year-over-year, hitting their highest level since the 2009 Great Recession. Most notably, these layoffs are occurring while the GDP continues to grow at approximately 4% accelerating the decoupling of employment from economic growth. And that is another way of saying that the billionaires are getting richer doing deals with each other over AI while screwing over everybody else who not only are not feeling the impact but are being significantly adversely harmed by this Trump uh economy. Uh as Heather Long, an economist writes, the US hiring recession shows no sign of ending. Job openings fell to 6.5 million in
December. That is the lowest level since September 2020 during COVID. So these comparisons are COVID great recession. The hiring rate remains anemic 3.3%. Firms aren't even thinking about hiring right now outside potentially of health care and AI. And we know the Trump regime is out there attacking health care and also having unregulated AI screw over we the people. You know, I just did an interview with Assembly Member Boris over in uh New York State Assembly District 73. He's running for Congress in the 12th Congressional District there. That's that open primary Nadler's previous seat. And Boris's main agenda is talking about the threats posed uh by AI. And for those who don't know his background, he worked in Palunteer for like five years. Um and he resigned, quit from Palunteer in 2019 where he started to see the links between Palunteer and ICE in 2019.
2019 is when he resigned there. And so he's made his platform to call out the dangers of AI, but harness its powers, but call out the dangers of unregulated AI. And so a super PAC has devoted tens of millions of dollars to try to defeat him. And anyone who speaks out against AI, you know, are getting attacked by these right-wing oligarchs right now. It should be noted as well, remember Donald Trump said that he was the the by the way, we're going to talk in this ep episode about uh Trump's Epstein coverup, okay? And what we're learning more as well. Um, we're going to talk about that deranged interview that Donald Trump gave with NBC where he talks about cognitive exams and we're going to talk about the Senate hearings that have been taking place with Treasury Secretary Besson. I I just I think it's important that we start episodes like this with areas that are not getting enough attention because
we've been talking about Epstein when it was not getting enough attention, right? And that's what I pride ourselves and this network about because we were talking about, you know, Epstein files since this network was founded. We were doing deep dives, Melania's dark past, Trump's dark past videos. I was doing interviews with the survivors five years ago. We were talking about what was going on then. So, I know it's getting a lot of attention. I've done deep dive videos into the Epstein files. I've done the links between Putin and the Epstein files and Epstein's communications with Russia and whether Epstein was involved in a uh KGB kind of a honey trap network right there. We've done deep dives. I did one this morning showing emails that seem to suggest that Donald Trump and Epstein were having communications through 2019 through Epstein's death either directly or indirectly um that there was still at least back
channels taking place. Go watch that video I did this morning on it. Um we did a whole video of Melania's name appearing in the Epstein files and described what happened there. And so we've been focused on another dark secrets of the Epsy files. So go back and watch those videos where we do deep dives email by email, text message by text message. But I just think it's important where people aren't focused on the threats posed by AI, which we're seeing impacting job numbers right now, and data centers. And people are terrified about what's happening. And you have that taking place. At the same time, ICE and Border Patrol Gustapo continued to terrorize and torture people across this country. It's interesting. Greg Bevino, who led Border Patrol, who was forced out of his position after Border Patrol thugs SS Gustapo murdered Alex Prey. And you know, uh, Bavino was out there like partying in Vegas and he was actually
kicked out of the bar that he was at. No, no one wants this guy around, you know. This guy's terrorizing people. You you you don't get to enter polite society and hang out in Vegas, okay? When you terrorize and torture people. People hate Bavino right now from from all political parties at this point. Talk more about that. But crypto, have you seen what's going on in the crypto market right now? Tanking. Crypto has lost$ two trillion dollars in value since October's 2025 peak as a sell-off uh deepens right there. And as the Kobasi letter explains, it's absolutely insane. On October 6th, crypto markets hit a record high market cap of 4.3 trillion. Today the crypto market is worth just 2.3 trillion and I think less now losing$ two trillion dollars worth of market cap in four months. In other words, 46% of crypto's entire value has been wiped out. Also, Donald Trump's company, World Liberty Financial, you
know, the one that UAE funneled hundreds of millions of dollars into in what appeared to be a quidd proquo where UAE then got our most highly classified semiconductor chips. Do you remember? You remember that? Well, World Liberty Financial just sold $5 million worth of Bitcoin. One of the things that they were doing when Bitcoin was at its highest price, they were hoarding Bitcoin when Bitcoin was like at $135,000 a bitcoin or or at its peak. So they bought high, sold panic, sold low right now. And the crashing crypto markets, by the way, this is everything Trump touches dies.
Trump steps into this space, they focus on no regulation at all where you can't even have an accounting of of where this crypto is being mined and who's holding on to it and creating a very inefficient market that lacks transparency or any regulation at all. Same issues we're seeing with AI and it's all related here. And now we're seeing a massive crash, like one of the worst market crashes imaginable. Like 48, like a 50% drop. That's great depression stuff right there. Dipped into the 60s, 60,000 today. We'll talk about that.
I want to also uh talk about Virginia on this episode because in Virginia, the Democrats in both of their chambers finally got out and they've been working great in Virginia. You've got the Senate proempere, uh, State Senator Lucas, and you've got their speaker, Speaker Scott, and they said they were going to do a 10:1 map in the Commonwealth of Virginia to add Democratic congressional seats, and they did their 10:1 map. And so, Donald Trump's gerrymandering scheme absolutely backfired. absolutely backfired in his face. And that's the thing with Donald Trump is that there's evil, malicious, but then also stupid. And it also shows you why when you stand up to this guy, you can win. And he's a loser. He's been a lifelong loser who has just conned people his entire life. So, you got to give a hat tip to California Governor Gavin Newsome for immediately kicking into high gear doing Prop 50,
right? Saying, "Okay, Texas, you're going to try to rig the midterms with five Republican seats. Okay, well, in California, we'll do it the right way. We're not just going to have the legislature pass something. We're going to do a referendum, Prop 50. The people can vote on it. And we're doing it in response to Texas. Prop 50 overwhelmingly was approved by California voters who said, "Yes, this is what we need to do to fight back." And it set the tone for the rest of the nation. We're now with Virginia and other states. Democrats look like they're going to pick up seats. And not only that, in order for Republicans to try to create Republican seats in Texas, they had to dilute safe Republican seats or what what they claimed were safe Republican seats or thought were safe Republican seats in order to bring voters over to the Democratic seats to try to wipe out Democratic seats. So let's just say a district that may be +
17, let's say in Texas where there is a plus two Democratic district and a plus 17 Republican district. What they may try to do is dilute that 17 to say a plus 10 and then add those seven to the plus two Democrats. So now it's a plus five red district. So they believe it's a Republican pickup, right? So the 17 goes down to 10, the plus two blue or Democrat now goes up to a plus five red in their minds because they're viewing it based on 2024 voter trends. See that math game right there. And now anything that's plus 15, plus 17, Democrats are winning in Texas and across the rest of this country right now.
So now what actually could have happened is the Republicans in Texas creating multiple more Democratic seats possibly by diluting what they thought were safe Republican seats. But the thing is this is how Donald Trump is treating America in international policy as well. That's why China is outmaneuvering the US, the EU, Canada, India, all these countries are outmaneuvering the US. And US is not from a position of strength negotiating. It's from an utter position of weakness. That's what we're seeing over and over again from Trump. Why don't I share with why don't we start off with some good news. And so let me show you uh Virginia state senator and president proemporary the senate proemporary senator Luis Lucas. Here's what she and speaker Scott said moments ago. Let's play it.
Give me more seats. Then that's not enough. So he calls North Carolina, Missouri, Ohio. I need more. I need more. Today we are leveling the playing field. There are not these are not ordinary times and Virginia will not sit on the sidelines while it happens. We made a promise to level the playing field and today we're keeping our promise. Our maps are ready. Virginia is ready. We said 101 and we meant it. And we are proud to deliver a map that stands up for democracy to stand up Virginiaians to stand up and give us a voice. He started this mess and Virginia is going to finish it. Virginia to the rescue. Senator Lucas said it best.
We've been working really hard to make sure that we got this delivered. This is about leveling the playing field. Across the country, Republicans are gerrymandering maps to override the will of the voters. We just saw it in Texas, North Carolina, and Missouri. At Donald Trump's direction, they're manipulating election maps because they know they can't win on their agenda in 2026. So, instead of changing their ideas, they're trying to rig the system. A 10-1 map levels the playing field, and we're ready to move forward. They are making good on our promise by releasing the maps publicly. We're going to get them released either by the end of the day or early tomorrow. We'll get those maps released and putting them out in the open and allowing them to be debated the way they should be in a democracy. We're going to leave it up to Virginia voters.
The maps are ready. Virginia is ready. And as my senator said many times, 101 101. Thank y'all. Appreciate it.
Before 5:00, I don't know. I'm all for 101. I'm all for 101. Let's go look at what was going down as well today. you had uh before showing Trump at that national prayer breakfast, I want to show Trump yesterday where now all of a sudden he's saying that Bill Clinton is his buddy. Right now that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have agreed to testify publicly before the House Oversight Committee and said, "We want it to happen publicly." To be clear, there's there's misinformation. There's just there's there's a lot of disinformation about whether Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton were agreeing to show up and testify. From the outset, they were always willing to speak with the MAGA Republicans in the House, even though they knew it was very contrived and weaponized to try to embarrass them and distract from Trump being in the Epstein files by making it about Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton.
But former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave proposals about how to offer testimony to to transparently discuss things um and then based on the information they gave to then determine does it go to a deposition, you know, or does it go anywhere else basically and that was consistently rejected. So finally when James Comr, the AAGA Republican who leads the leads the House Oversight Committee is like, "We're going to hold the Clintons in contempt. The Clintons did something in my view that was absolutely brilliant and I appreciate it." And I don't care what political party you are. You should appreciate this move, too. Right. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton said, "You want to do a hearing on Jeffrey Epstein?"
Okay, let's do it in public. Hillary Clinton will go first. Remember how that went for you with Benghazi? Hillary Clinton will go first. And Hillary Clinton's like, "Let me do it. I want to go public and let we'll do a whole hearing on Epstein. We want to do an Epstein hearing." Hillary Clinton's like, "What are you asking me about?" "Okay, well, we will do that." And here's what she posted. You're pull up that post right there. Hillary Clinton goes, "For six months, we engaged Republicans on the oversight committee in good faith. We told them what we know and said we would tell them what we know under oath. They ignored all of it. They moved the goalpost and turned accountability into an exercise in distraction. So, let's stop the games.
If you want this fight, James Comr, let's have it in public. You love to talk about transparency. There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing. Cameras on. We will be there. meaning former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton. We will be there. Of course, we'll be there at the Midas Touch Network covering it as well. So, Hillary Clinton says that. And then here's what Donald Trump says about Bill Clint. Now, we all know, just to be clear before I play this clip, that Donald Trump has been trashing the Bill Clinton every day, right? Was Bill Clinton. He was the one who's I'm not on the list. I'm not on the files. When Donald Trump appears 38,000 times in the Epstein files, 38,000.
I saw these memes. I wanted to fact check it to see if it's true. And it's true. That means Donald Trump's name appears more in the Epstein files than Jesus's name in the Bible and more than Harry Potter's name, including Harry without Potter. Harry in all seven Harry Potter books. I saw the meme, I had to confirm it, which means Donald Trump is the main character in the Epstein files. And what's so fascinating as I show you what's going on in other countries like what's happening in the UK right now where rightfully so the taint of Epstein and connections is viewed as shameful and that people who are associated with it are profusely apologizing, resigning from their position, being shamed, having their titles removed, being criminally investigated. That's what's supposed to happen. That's what's supposed to happen. But in the United States, it's very, very, very different. But now, and
we all know that Trump has been saying, "Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton." Okay. Well, what do you feel about Bill Clinton now, Donald? Let's play this clip.
NBC News broke the story today. I don't know if you saw it that the Democrats are already saying, "If you bring President Bill Clinton and he has to testify, we're bringing President Trump." What do you say to I I think they might say that, you know, but they've already brought me. See, I've been brought uh they had me indicted uh many many times. Many, many times.
And the president had some surprising thoughts about former President Bill Clinton.
It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clint.
What do you like about him? Uh I liked Well, I liked his behavior toward me. I thought he got me. He understood me. You know, he was the one that said very famously that you don't want to run against Trump when there were 18 people. It was 18 people including me total. And he kept telling them, "You don't want to run against Trump. Run against anyone. Don't run against Trump." And Hillary sort of laughed at him. I mean, how pathetic is that? Like, objectively, again, I don't care what political party you're from. I don't care. I mean, how pathetic is that? I'm upset that they're going after Bill Clinton. I mean, you you are you you you are the person. It's it it is you because you're the one in the files more than everybody. I I I I want to share this with you as well.
I want I did a whole video on it this morning. I think it's important that we see this in the United States of America. what is happening in the UK right now, right? Where Peter Mandelson, who used to be the UK ambassador to the United States, whose connections to Epstein, in my view, are less than Trump's, in my opinion, grotesque and disgusting, horrific stuff. Um, but in my opinion, I'm giving you my First Amendment opinion, right? I have the right to give First Amendment speech. You You can form your own opinions. I'll be very clear with the disclaimer. That's my opinion.
Um, he's been forced out of the Labor Party. I guess he's allowed to hold his title because, but he's not he's forced out of the House of Lords, even though I guess he still calls himself Lord. He's he shouldn't. Um and the government right now which has a significant majority in in the parliament though based on the prior election they're facing a massive scandal right now because Kier Starmer people could feel differently about Kier Starmer. I think he's very strong on Ukraine. I think he's been weak when it comes to Trump.
my own view if you were interested. But my opinion here, you could form your own opinions. I certainly think that I identify closer with say the Labor Party than the Tories if I had to give an opinion. And I want to be clear that the Tories, the Conservative Party in the UK, it's not like the it's not like they should be acting like they're free of scandals or bad like a bad thing. So I want to give you that proviso as I show you clips of the Tories of the Conservative party members in parliament calling out Epstein's connections with um Mandelen. But one of the things that Kier Starmmer did is and this is reflecting on Kier Starmer's judgment that Kier Starmmer allowed Mandolen to be the ambassador to the US and gave a highle position and there were people knew that Mandeln had a connection with Epstein not to the degree that's in the files but the criticism is you brought on a guy Mandolen who knew
Epstein and that should be disqualifying for you, Starmer. That should be disqualifying for that's the argument. And Starmmer isn't really fighting it. I mean, his view is it was bad judgment. I was lied to. And Mandlesen, we did a vetting and Mandelen said that it wasn't what it is. Um, but we know Trump's connections. So, I just want you to think about how the connection in the UK between Starmer and Mandlesen reflects on Starmer and anybody else who brought in Mandlesson when in the US Trump's like one of the people at the heart of the cabal in my opinion based on being the lead character in the Epstein files in my opinion. So, watch this exchange right here as some of the Tories, the opposition people in the UK, this is how they're talking about the situation.
Let's watch this first clip. Absolutely. It absolutely beggars belief. And if we want to clean up politics, then this sort of thing should not be being allowed to happen. Politics is a difficult place. We know that. But this
this was down to judgment. Yeah. It was down to the judgment of one person or was it the judgment of others around that person? So I urge the honorable and right honorable members on the Labor benches opposite.
Do the right thing this evening. Stand up for democracy. Stand up for parliament and stand up for decency.
Lia Karns. Thank you madam speaker. Liberation Day. That is how Manderson described the day of Epstein's release from prison for procuring children
to be trafficked and raped. Disgusting. Mandlesson's next message was, "How is freedom feeling?" Epstein replied, "She feels fresh, firm, and creamy."
Mandelson's next reply, "Naughty boy." Disgusting. Now, we hadn't seen this email, I'll admit, when the ambassador was appointed, but let's look at what we did know when he was appoint ambassador.
We knew at that point that he had consoled this pedophile, consoled him on his being found guilty and convicted for just one of the many, many crimes he committed. We also knew that while he was deputy prime minister of this country and business and trade secretary carrying the flag of our great nation on an official visit to New York, he stayed in a convicted pedophile's flat. How dare he do that while representing this country? But the idea that no one in the cabinet office, no one at the Department of Business OR TRADE, NO CIVIL SERVANT, no political appointee knew that he'd said, "No, I don't need a hotel. Thank you ever so much. I'm going to stay at my friend Epstein's house." Oh, by the way, he happens to currently be in prison, incarcerated, but I'm going to stay at his house anyway. That to me raises serious questions about why he was not pursued for misconduct in public office back at that point. And no one can say
the Labour government did not know because having been a civil servant, I knew where my ministers were staying when they abroad. Not sure they always wanted me to know, but I knew. And none of them would have ever done that. This is the heart of the issue with the judgment of the prime minister. Now on Monday, one of its ministers, the government's minister said nobody objected when Manderson was appointed. I would say look at Hansard. I remember objecting very very clearly and repeatedly
because it was very clear at that point that Mandolson had repeatedly said that Pepsine did not deserve to be in prison, that this was an awful time for him, how he was caring and thinking for his good friend. Why was there no investigation and why was the vetting not done right? Because there is no question that the vetting cannot have been conducted properly. I have been through vetting myself and I accept it was not as a minister but as a civil servant I've been sat in a room with a rather elderly
right again I don't care you know whether you're labor green Tory do labor whatever like what she's saying you know again and I'm not again trying to say that the Tories don't have any their own issues let's be clear they do but I'm saying what she said was with moral clarity. Watch what happens when Prime Minister Kier Starmer was questioned here. Let's play this clip.
Can the Prime Minister tell us, did the official security vetting he received mention Mandlesson's ongoing relationship with the pedophile Jeffrey Epste?
So, Prime Minister, yes, it did. A as a as a result, various questions were put to him. I intend to disclose to this house all of the the national security prejudice to international relations on one side. I want to make sure this I want to make sure this house sees the full documentation so it will see for itself the extent to which the extent to which time and time again Mandlesson completely misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Epstein and lied throughout the process including in response to the due diligence.
You hear the audible gasp and I wanted to show that to our audience because you don't see that a lot, right, in American media showing you what's going on in the UK parliament, but I spend a lot of time on it because also Prime Minister Kier Starmer told the truth, right? In America, we'd be used to when confronted with, you know, did you um were you aware that there was this connection in the past? And you know, what would Trump say? I never knew anything. I never was aware. Kier Starmer answered the question honestly and he said yes and we were lied to and we're going to show you all the documentation but he admitted to doing something bad. I mean Starmer wasn't Mandelen but he did recognize the error of judgment and said that he was lied to. Now however that nets out that's for the British people to decide.
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Let's find this clip where uh yeah, where Donald Trump talks about the cognitive mind tests. Let's play that clip. The cognitive mind tests. Let's play it.
I feel great. I mean, physically and mentally, I feel like I did 50 years ago. It's crazy. Now, there'll be a time when I won't be able to give you that answer,
but that time hasn't come. You know, I do I think it's very important. I've done more physicals. I take physicals just to give the report out.
Yeah. I take cognitive physicals. So, I do a cognitive mind test, okay? And a lot of people wouldn't be able to do very well. Not easy. You know, you get to those last questions. I've aced I've done three of them. No other president has agreed to do them. I do them because I have no problem with it because I'm 100% now.
Yeah. It's like a crazy person. I mean, again, this is not a political thing. Like, I think that we can all view Prime Minister Starmer's response and be very unsatisfied with it. He looked like he was a deer in headlights. Um, I don't think that if you're the prime minister to say you were misled, you know, especially with all we know now, that does reflect on your judgment. But I think we're I think we were at least observing the way we the way we hope things are supposed to work out, you know, and whether Starmer's forced to resign, right? Because now he's got to worry about, you know, he he's got to worry about the the majority that he has with his Labor party there. And granted, the next elections, I don't think, are supposed to happen until 2029. and it's not like a coalition government. So, you know, he he should have that position until 2029, but you know, he's getting a lot of pressure
within the labor labor party. But what we saw there is is normal in my view. Like what we see here with Trump, I I I think is is is not normal. I mean, here he is bragging about, you know, about aspirin and taking aspirin. So, he has thin blood. Here, let's play this clip.
Still taking the aspirin. Still taking the aspirin. I do. to take aspirin and uh I don't want to change, you know, I don't want to.
So, you go against your doctor's orders. You do what you kind of feel. You know, I've been taking aspirin for 30 years and I don't I don't want to change it. So, you know, they say take the smaller one. I say, "Well, the I want that blood to be nice and thin running through my heart."
I mean, the way the reporter talks to Donald Trump like he's talking to somebody, you know, in uh you know, like a psychiatric ward. And I'm not and I'm not and I'm be very careful that I don't mean to I'm not trying to disparage serious mental health issues and draw or or even give Trump an out by comparing the things. But the but the way the question is even are you listening to your doctors there Donald? I mean how have we how have we gone to that as the as the baseline right? The reporter asks Donald about, you know, you're out there tweeting about Italian satellites being run by the CIA, rigging the 2020 election with Venezuela's help from the Chavez regime. Like, you know, this is a little bit you you're reposting things that are out there, Donald. Do you believe that stuff? Watch what Trump says.
You tweeted out some some theories about Italians and satellites. I mean, do you believe that stuff?
No. No. No, I No, I didn't cheat. I sometimes will retruth. I will retruth. But But let me
retruth it. I retruth. It wasn't a tweet. I retruth that stuff. Yeah. Manu Raju asking Maga Mike Johnson. So in the UK too and this is like in in the parliamentary system in Canada also the speaker not political at all the speaker of the house of comments not a political person which I just think is an like an interesting facet as well that it is someone who's supposed to have impeccable credentials that's not a partisan who oversees the rigorous debate on the floor where their head of state, their their head, their prime minister rather, has to show up and debate with the opposition and the opposition has a shadow cabinet and you go there and you battle out the ideas in public transparently all of the time versus here's MAGA Mike Johnson, the speaker in the United States, MAGA Republican.
Let's watch this. Shouldn't Trump have to answer some questions, too? He's been named more than a thousand times in these documents.
The president submits to press inquiries every day. Not under oath. Not under oath.
Not under oath, but he's asked the questions all the time and he answers them. Uh, we'll see where it goes.
Gets asked the questions. He answers the questions by saying that he's been totally vindicated and there are no references to him in the files when there's 38,000 references to him in the files and that there are all these references to Putin. Have you seen this new document as well that talks about Epstein telling people to short Russia's currency right around the invasion or the annexation of Crimea. It's a new email. He's saying you got to short it. Short the ruble right right before the like days before. That's what he says. Epstein shorted the ruble five days before the annexation of Crimea, signaling he may have had fornowledge of the event.
And the links also between the Epstein files and the current situation where these oligarchs seem to be manipulating everything while screwing over everybody else. That's part of it that always needs to be discussed when we talk about the Epstein files. that yes, it is a child sex trafficking ring. The most horrible thing there is. But in addition, child sex trafficking was the currency used by these rich men to blackmail each other and to engage in these massive uh corrupt moves that was breaking down the world order and then just screwing over billions of other people who lived in the world who just wanted to go about their lives and they were using their sex trafficking as the currency with each other to then screw over the people in all these other aspects of life. So like today when we're seeing Bitcoin crash the way it did, but then it was $5 trillion last October, but now it's $2 trillion now. And people may
have invested their life savings in this thing, you know, who may not be the rich oligarchs because they thought this was going in the right direction and now they're now they're getting screwed, you know, from this. And it's like, who are all these insiders that have all this knowledge and you know, oh well, I know one observation I wanted to make and I connect it here is that Epstein and Lord Mandelen use the term liberation day. Did you catch that? liberation day to refer to Epstein being free. They called it liberation day.
That's what Trump called it, liberation day when he sc he screwed over the entire economy and put tariffs on the rest of the world. The markets crashed. People lost their life savings. And then Trump started giving exemptions to his right-wing oligarch buds. While small and medium-sized businesses suffer, his right-wing oligarch buds would get exemptions and they'd be okay. But the rest of the businesses get screwed and people get screwed who have to pay more money for everything. And then now what Donald Trump spending his time on, he keeps filing lawsuits against his own government to extract settlements from himself, paid for by us, paid for by the taxpayer. So here's what I want to show you. First, I'm going to show you what Trump said about suing the government.
He just filed the lawsuit for10 billion dollars. And he says in the clip, he already won the lawsuit. Yeah. Because he sued himself. And now he's going to pay himself 10 billion dollars of our money. Then I'm going to show you what Treasury Secretary Scott Besson testified today when he was asked about those about this settlement. So, first let me show you Trump. Let's play it. Essentially, the lawsuit's been won.
I guess I won a lot of money. So, Scott Besson's the head of the IRS. Bonnie's the head of the Justice Department. They're going to defend the IRS against you. You're the boss.
Well, there's never been anything like it in all fairness. So, are you are you going to tell
Don't forget I sued as a private citizen because I sued between terms. I won three times. I won three times, but I didn't assume unfortunately for this country, I didn't assume office the second time. But here's the story. I sued because they broke into Mara Lagoa. That was before I became president. Now it goes along and it turned out that the suit is a very strong suit. U
you're going to tell them to pay you though cuz you're the boss. Well, I would what I would do tell them to pay me but I'll give 100% of the money to charity. I don't want any of that money.
Take it out of the system. Um a couple more questions here. No, no. I'm putting it back into the system. Yeah. If I give money to American Cancer Society, I would I will give 100% of the money away to I don't want any of trillion dollar debt and we're going to take 10 billion out of the system.
Well, I mean, you give it away anyway. They give away a lot of money. You're endorsed on Speaking about that, Minnesota and these other states, we have massive investigations going into fraud. Do you know if we captured 50% of the fraud of this country right now, we would have better than a balanced budget. And you got to mention that Minnesota $19 billion dollars in fraud that we I just want you to assume that he does donate the money, which we don't think he's going to do. You realize what he's going to do, though.
He's going to take the full amount as a deduction. So, he's going to steal your taxpayer money and he's going to say that that's, you know, 10 billion dollars of income. Then he's going to declare it on his taxes because he is he controls the IRS as a personal physical injury, right? So that it's taxexempt in the settlement. He's going to claim it as a personal physical tax exempt so it doesn't get taxed as income. What is the IRS going to go after him and audit him? No. and just even assume he gives the money to charity, which I don't think he will do, he's going to take it as a complete deduction so that all of the shady deals where he's earning income, he doesn't have to pay taxes on. Do you real? Do you realize that? That's and he's stealing our taxpayer dollars to to do that. So, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant was cross-examined by Senator Ggo about that today.
Democrat from Arizona cross-examining Besson. Besson, Secretary of Treasury that oversees the IRS. So, let's play the first clip of what went down. But if the president prevails in this lawsuit, he's going to be able to pocket that money. Um, my question is, is the president, is anyone in the president's office talked to you about this lawsuit in any regard?
Uh, they have not. And the president has said he will donate the proceeds to charity. You may have missed that. So, no one at all has discussed this to you whatsoever,
sir. And the president said he Have you received I'm I didn't ask any more questions. Have you received any advice from Treasury's legal division about how to handle this potential conflict?
This is a Justice Department matter. They represent Treasury in it. Have someone from Department of Justice actually come and talk to you saying that this is their purview and you need to stay out of it or what what have they who who has discussed to you what is your role in this? our our general counsel who's sitting behind me has told me that it is a justice department matter. The justice department defends treasuries and treasury in matters like this.
Okay. So you have has been discussed with you. Do you have any final say at all in the process of this or is the DOJ just going to instruct you to cut a check and or settle and you have no independence to actually make a decision whether or not the president deserves $10 billion? Uh again, that that is a DOJ matter.
And so the DOJ will entirely make that decision if and whether or not the president should receive $10 billion. You have no say at all.
Correct. So you will just have to write the check if you were told to write the check.
Correct. You would write the check willingly if you were told by a DOJ to the president.
I I I will follow the law, Senator. Okay. I mean, I think for many of us, this is very simple. And I think if if this had been happening in any other countries through the book, an absolute like a total uh shakeddown uh of the American taxpayer. Are you als
Yeah. And then show you one more part of that cross exam. GGO was great. He was always great. He was great right here where he said, uh let's say that Trump wins that lawsuit, wins the lawsuit against the government, against us, the taxpayers. Where does the $10 billion come from? Let's watch it. But you know, we kind of touched on this earlier. In addition to being Treasury Secretary, you are serving as acting director of the IRS. So, following up on Senator Kim's uh questioning, uh so you are fully aware that the president is suing uh your agency for $10 billion.
We would agree. Would you agree that $10 million is a good sum of money? Uh yes, sir.
Where would that be cut from? Let's say for some reason he actually wins that lawsuit. Where would that $10 billion come from? Uh again um it would come from
process wise. I'm not asking like your opinion whether it's right or wrong. It would come from treasury.
It come from treasury which comes from the general fund. The treasury general account.
So taxpayers. Uh yes. Thank you. Part of the 440,000 taxpayers whose returns were leaked
if the now if the president they're not suing but of the president. Okay. Did you hear what he said there? also part of the either 44,000 or he may have said 404,000 uh taxpayers whose taxes were released. So there was a hack or a data breach. A guy named Little John got his hands on 400,000. You know, when I was a litigator, I handled data breach cases. remember some of the big uh credit score companies or databached? Remember those cases? I I worked on those types of data breach cases. Um class actions. You may have been a victim of one of those. And if you know the settlement, you probably got because I I worked on the settlements back in, you know, 2017, 2018, Equifax and all those, right? You got da you got free data protection service and maybe you got 500 bucks and then you got like a few years of like data security protection maybe that was kind of the way that that that's the way it resolved or something
like that because there was so many people who were injured. Okay, you get 10 billion dollars, right? And that's how usually these data breach cases are resolved and it's horrible that it happens but that's usually the resolution. So just assume that he said 44,000 other people and not 404 because I did the math on 44,000. So if the 44,000 people including Trump, if they all sued for $10 billion, right? Because Trump's saying that he has a case. So why can't the other 44,000 or 404,000 people sue for10 billion? Why can't you sue? Trump says he was injured 10 billion. Why can't you? So if 44,000 or just say 40,000 people each sued the government for10 billion that means there would be about $440 plus trillion dollar in damages. $440 trillion in damages. Now the entire debt that our country faces right now which is increasing under the Trump regime is about $ 38 trillion and that number is
going higher. Trump adds more debt in the trillions than anybody before him by far. So now what Donald Trump is creating a precedent for is another $400 trillion in debt if everybody filed the lawsuit. And that's if it's just 44,000. So now do the math if that's $440,000. So I don't even know what that number is. Like I don't know what what is what's it called after a trillion? Like a bajillion a trillion billion. I don't know. I'll have Chad GPT or someone tell me what the answer is. But it would be whatever the next thing that comes after trillion is and significantly into that.
So that's the precedent that Trump just just play it out. Okay. Well, I would argue if my taxes were leaked, I deserve 10 billion too. DOJ, that would be my argument. So you paid him, I get paid 10 billion, right? And what's the DOJ going to say? You don't have a claim. So perhaps that's what we all do. Why don't if anyone was involved, why don't we file a class action together and we each say we were damaged? I I want I would love for all How many people are in the chat room right now? I would love for everybody in this chat room to each get there's 16,000 people watching this live right now and by the time this episode, you know, is is watched over the course of the day, half a million people or so will watch this episode. Maybe more, maybe a little less, right? Why don't we all sue together? And imagine that. Imagine if I delivered not just the truth on the news, but I helped you get 10 billion
dollars. Is it a quadrillion? A quadrillion. What if I got you a quadrillion dollars? You'd be like, "Wow, this is the greatest host." Rachel Matto. She's good. She's good like Midas, but she doesn't give me a quadrillion. You know, that's what I'll offer. Quadrillion. That'll be my pitch. Watch the Midas Touch podcast. Subscribe to our Substack and I will get you a quadrillion dollar. A quadrillion. We need to be serious people. These are serious times. Made more serious by the clown in the oval, the fascist cloud in the oval.
And we really need to on a nonpartisan political basis truly recognize what's happening here. Abolishing ICE shouldn't be a political talking point. It should be an existential demand because they are an invading force terrorizing our communities. Bringing transparency and accountability to the Epstein files shouldn't be a political point because it involves underage child sex trafficking and those who are involved deserve to be punished to the highest extent imaginable under the law. It's not a political issue. We should support health care because we want health to live. Shouldn't be a political position.
We should want someone in the Oval Office who's smart, who articulates sentences, who stops talking about cognitive exams all of the freaking time. We should want to support our allies because they're our allies and they were there for us and we should be there for them and not attack them. That's the reality. So, I gave you all the idea. Now go and you want to reach don't reach out to the po I was going to say reach out to pop firm but pop will get so bad you told people that I would represent him for a quadrillion dollars but pop wait like popac will legit get mad at me if if so don't don't call pop on that lawsuit you call another lawyer do not call pop on my quadrillion dollar lawsuit idea I want to maintain my friendship with with with Michael Popac um if If you have other legal issues, you can call Popac for that. He his his Popac firm does a great job to reach out to Pop Firm, but
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