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LIVE: MeidasTouch RESPONDS to MAJOR BREAKING NEWS - 2/5/26

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "LIVE: MeidasTouch RESPONDS to MAJOR BREAKING NEWS - 2/5/26", an episode of MeidasTouch published February 6, 2026 (1 h 22 min, about 14,871 words). It mentions 17 people, works and ideas, including Donald Trump, Midas Touch, Jeffrey Epstein, California Prop 50, Virginia.

What this episode is about

The discussion focuses on the detrimental impact of Donald Trump's policies on the U.S. economy, particularly highlighted by a poor jobs report; it also delves into Trump's ties to Jeffrey Epstein, revealing extensive communications that suggest deeper connections to Epstein's activities. The narrative contrasts the U.S. response to those implicated with Epstein to other countries that have taken decisive action against their own officials involved in similar scandals.

Key takeaways

  • Trump's economic missteps echo the Great Recession, showcasing a worrisome cyclical pattern that Americans can't afford.
  • In a bizarre comparison, Trump is in Epstein files more often than Harry Potter appears in his own saga.
  • While other countries purge Epstein ties, MAGA Republicans cling to denial—proving hypocrisy has zero borders.
  • California's win against Trump's gerrymandering sets a precedent; democratic distribution might just trump misinformation.
  • The sheer volume of released Epstein documents reveals a grim narrative—dark truths live at the intersection of power and deprivation.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Midas Touch, Virginia
  2. – 20:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Chislaine Maxwell, COVID-19 pandemic
  3. – 30:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Peter Thiel, Bill and Hillary Clinton
  4. – 40:00: Donald Trump, Bill and Hillary Clinton, BetterHelp, Hillary Clinton
  5. – 50:00: Donald Trump
  6. – 1:00:00: Donald Trump, Fatty 15, Midas Touch
  7. – 1:10:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, UK, Brexit
  8. – 1:20:00: Virginia, Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, Brexit
  9. – 1:22:26: Midas Touch

Notable quotes from "LIVE: MeidasTouch RESPONDS to MAJOR BREAKING NEWS - 2/5/26"

  • Around September of COVID. We'll cover that. the Trump regime continues to cover up Donald Trump's involvement in the Epstein files. And with Epstein, it's it's harder to do…
    about Donald Trump · at
  • And how he claims that he's so smart and just bizarre behavior. You have California with a massive win before the United States Supreme Court, which upheld the California Prop…
    about California Prop 50 · at
  • Messages like that. you know you had Gilain Maxwell was referred to as G by Melania and Melania referred to Jeffrey Epstein as J. She goes J really good in the New York…
    about Chislaine Maxwell · at
  • And so there was an email with Jeffrey Epstein and Peter Teal, which I think speaks to, this issue that we're talking about right now. And in general, a lot of the things.
    about Peter Thiel · at
  • It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clinton.
    about Bill and Hillary Clinton · at
  • Oh, I know what changed. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton posted that she and former President Bill Clinton are have agreed that not only do they want to testify before the House Oversight Committee, they want to.
    about Hillary Clinton · at
  • Politically speaking is happening overseas. It's happening in the UK. You have Prime Minister Kier Starmer in the UK under fire. you have Peter Mandelen in the UK. he's resigned from his position. He's out now. Appears to be.
    about UK · at
  • And you're the hell is even happening here? I'll I'll leave us with some good news. Virginia in the in their both houses, their chambers controlled by a Democrat Democrats in both houses now. they put forward a 10 to one map and not only.
    about Virginia · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Donald Trump — Person · Primary referenced political figure (subject of criticism) · 40 mentions · first at
    Central figure in the episode’s claims about economic decline, alleged government self-dealing, and alleged connections/mentions in the Epstein files; repeatedly contrasted with accountability efforts abroad.
  • Jeffrey Epstein — Person · Primary referenced figure (alleged hub of scandal) · 43 mentions · first at
    Presented as the nexus of the ‘Epstein files’ and alleged backchannel communications with political and elite figures; used to argue ongoing proximity to Trump-world.
    Administration are. I did a deep dive showing that there were messages that showed that Epstein said he was going to be hanging out with the Trump boys. pretty close to the…
  • Chislaine Maxwell — Person · Referenced Epstein associate (social proximity example) · 1 mention · first at
    Discussed in relation to alleged social ties with Trump’s circle (including Melania references) and as a focal point of press questioning; used to argue closeness/proximity and avoidance of accountability.
  • Peter Thiel — Person · Referenced tech billionaire (elite-network example) · 3 mentions · first at
    Appears via an email excerpt presented as revealing elite political-economic worldview (‘tribalism’, ‘collapse’, ‘zero interest rates’), used to connect Epstein’s network to broader geopolitics/finance narratives.
  • Bill and Hillary Clinton — Person · Referenced political figure (comparative/deflection target) · 7 mentions · first at
    Discussed mainly as a comparison point in Trump’s remarks and as part of the episode’s narrative about public testimony/subpoenas and political deflection around Epstein-related scrutiny.
  • Hillary Clinton — Person · Referenced political figure (public-testimony challenge) · 4 mentions · first at
    Cited for publicly calling for open/public hearings, framed as ‘calling Trump’s bluff’ on transparency and accountability regarding Epstein-related inquiries.

Companies & orgs

  • Midas Touch — Company · Business focus · 4 mentions · first at
    The podcast network hosting the discussion, central to the episode's context.
    We have a lot to discuss on this episode of the Midas Touch podcast. Donald Trump continues to tank the economy that most Americans live in. A horrible jobs report coming out. Private sector jobs.

Concepts & topics

  • California Prop 50 — Concept · Core topic · 1 mention · first at
    Discussed as a significant legal and political victory in the context of redistricting.

Places & events

  • Virginia — Place · Setting · 6 mentions · first at
    Highlighted for its political actions and redistricting efforts following California's lead.
  • California — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a key location in political and legal discussions, especially regarding Prop 50.
    And how he claims that he's so smart and just bizarre behavior. You have California with a massive win before the United States Supreme Court, which upheld the California Prop…
  • UK — Place · Setting · 3 mentions · first at
    Discussed in the context of political fallout from the Epstein files and parliamentary actions.
  • Brexit — Event · Referenced event · 4 mentions · first at
    Discussed in the context of global political and economic strategies mentioned in the Epstein files.
    That Jeffrey Epstein sent to Peter Teal in 2016. And I think this is very revealing. Jeffrey Epstein said to Peter Teal that Jeff first he said Brexit just the beginning. So…
  • COVID-19 pandemic — Event · Referenced event · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a comparative timeframe for economic downturns.
    Absolutely tanking. we haven't seen anything like this since the great recession of 2009 or right around September of COVID. We'll cover that. the Trump regime continues.
  • World Cup — Event · Referenced event · 3 mentions
    Mentioned in passing, no specific relevance to the main discussion.

Sponsors

  • BetterHelp — Product · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at
    Sponsored segment promoting therapy services.
    BetterHelp therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US. BetterHelp does the initial matching work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals. A short.
  • Fatty 15 — Product · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at
    Sponsored segment promoting a health supplement.
    Optimize your C-15 levels to help support your long-term health and wellness now, especially as you age. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription starter kit by going to fatty5.com/midus and using code midas at checkout.
  • Select Quote — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
    Sponsored segment promoting life insurance services.
    Your policies through work, you're probably underinsured, overpaying, and underprotected. That's why I'm looking at a new life insurance policy with Select Quote. For over 40…

Full transcript with timestamps

We have a lot to discuss on this episode of the Midas Touch podcast. Donald Trump continues to tank the economy that most Americans live in. A horrible jobs report coming out. Private sector jobs. Uh absolutely tanking. I mean, we haven't seen anything like this since the great recession of 2009 or right around September of uh COVID. We'll cover that. the Trump regime continues to cover up Donald Trump's involvement in the Epstein files. And with Epstein, it's it's harder to do when you see all of these things that have Donald Trump's name on it or or referenced 38,000 times in 5,000 uh different documents. And the more you go through these files, the more uh grim, grotesque, and disgusting it is. And you know, the the deeper the connections with Trump's first administration are. I did a deep dive showing that there were messages that showed that Epstein said he was going to be hanging out with the Trump boys. I

mean, pretty close to the time that he ended up dying. Um, he's speaking with Bannon about potential meetings with Trump and there seemed to be all of these back channel communications taking place. And again, I could only read what's in the emails, so I don't know beyond what's being said. But it ain't like Epstein's talking to random people. He's talking to like Bannon, talking to prime ministers, he's talking to uh major leaders and political figures. And it's just so fascinating to me. I did a whole video on it this morning, how other countries are dealing with this and handling people from their countries who may have been associated with Epstein and basically shaming them, pushing them out, making sure they're fired, and speaking with moral clarity.

whether you saw in Poland uh the prime minister Tusk talking about launching an investigation there and anybody who has anything to do with Epstein will be gone right away from that government and fully prosecuted. We see what's happening in the UK. I mean the parliament there you know yesterday as uh was was all hell was breaking loose. his prime minister Starmer was, you know, admitted that he knew that uh this guy Peter Mandelen who was the ambassador to the United States who since have been fired, you know, had these connections with Epstein and you know, Starmer's under fire right now about how do you even allow somebody to to hold a position who had these connections? And of course, we see what's in the files. But here with these MAGA Republicans, they just deny that Trump's in them, even though Trump's in them in the most grotesque way. I was I I checked out these memes and I fact

checked that they're true. That Trump appears more in the Epstein Files than Harry Potter does in the Harry Potter 7 books, including the word Harry. There's more references to Trump than the word Harry in the Harry Potter books and more references to Trump in the Epstein Files than Jesus in the Bible. Okay. Um, and it's not like these are just passing references. They're like grotesque references as well. So, we'll break that down. Also, Donald Trump in this bizarre interview with uh NBC was again bragging about cognitive exams and how, you know, and how he claims that he's so smart and just bizarre behavior. You have California with a massive win before the United States Supreme Court, which upheld the California Prop 50 maps. So, not only did California fight back against Trump's attempt to rig the midterms in Texas and California picked up five seats, Virginia and other states followed the lead of California and

they've been great in Virginia as well. Um, and they put forward the Democrats there a 10 to one map. So, Democrats are are going to net, it seems, more seats than uh the MAGA Republicans and Trump in the midterms just based on the gerrymandering. And then the Texas gerrymander by Trump and Abbott seem to be a dummy mander because they diluted safer red districts into areas where we're seeing Democrats in their overperformances in special elections beating Republicans by those margins. So, we'll cover that as well. Brett and Jordy, we've got a lot to discuss here.

Um, you know, and I I wanted to also focus on the good news and the momentum though as well um with Virginia, the 10-1 map, and not just focus on some of the dark and grim stuff of these Epstein files. But Brett, every day you're sending me stuff and I'm just like, oh my, I'm reading I'm sending you stuff. Our editorial team like this is this is grotesque. Yeah, we have a ongoing chat where all us and all of our researchers have been pouring through the Epstein files and as you know there were something like three million documents released. That's a lot of stuff and there's a lot of stuff that you just continuously find whether by putting in different search terms or clicking on random documents. A lot of people have made indexes of all the documents to make it easily searchable to make the videos easy to find to make the photos easy to find. And I gotta say, I've been uh deep in it and it's uh it's very it's

a very dark um very dark, very grim. And some of the stuff uh quite frankly, like you know, it's going to be bad, but when you actually see it in writing, it's just jaw-dropping. It's just disgusting. It's abhorrent, it's sick, it's grotesque, it's vile, it's depraved. Any word you want to use to describe it, it is just disgusting. It's so gross. Um but we've been uncovering it all. And you know, I think one of the most fascinating things about it is just to see all of these people, all of these Epstein associates lying about it in real time. Like at this point, we're able to see these communications. We're able to see people making plans with Epstein at various times, dinners with Epstein, going to the island with Epste or at least making plans to go to the island with Epstein, Epstein making plans to meet them in various places in New York, in Palm Beach, you name it.

And then many of these same people are going online and they're trying to downplay their relationship, which to me only sounds more alarms. It only raises more red flags because it's like, why are you lying about it? We could see exactly what happened in all of this. And we're going to give you our opinions on all of this based on the documentation that we see. We're going to be asking the questions based on the documents that you could see. Obviously, we're unable to confirm 100% of everything and if things actually went, you know, made it to fruition and all of that, but the stuff that we are seeing in these documents is shocking and particularly as Ben noted, a lot of the stuff about Donald Trump, which shows that it appears that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were very close and had at least lines of communication potentially going up until as recently with folks like Don Jr. 2018 2019 months

before Jeffrey Epstein died and there's a lot of interactions uh about Trump uh saying uh talking about meetings with Trump talking about being with Trump right before the 2016 right before the inauguration in 2017. I mean this is truly truly jaw-dropping stuff. And I look at other countries like the UK and I'm looking at what's happening in Lithuania and Norway and they are actually taking action. This is a big deal to people because they actually care about this stuff. And here we have a Department of Justice. Instead of actually trying to find justice to seek justice, what they are doing is they are acting as Donald Trump's personal criminal defense firm. And it is absolutely disgusting. We're going to speak about that and more. First, I'm going to toss it to Jord. Jordy, I got to say though, to lighten the mood a little bit, it's a nice jacket you got on.

I knew you were going to say you always bully me when I wear this jacket, but who Excuse me, everybody. My money. How's that a bully?

Before we compliment compliment the outfit. I'm not even going to do the joke cuz it's mean. I told Brett to comment on my jacket and then he didn't know I was going to do that part of it. I was going to make it seem like he bullied me. But I I felt bad and guilty. Hi everybody. He

You set me up. Yeah, I did. I totally set you up. Uh but I I caved immediately so it wasn't that great. Only

who who sets up your big bro? I set you up for like an audience of one because that's how quickly I came around on the joke. Anyway, I'm excited to get into today's show. Uh big show tonight. We are less than 80,000 subscribers from hitting 6 million subscribers on the Midas Touch YouTube channel. You guys are doing it. The mightest mighty of this community. Thank you guys so much. Please check right now to see if you're subscribed. We have about 25 more days to hit that 6 million subscriber mark. I think that was my prediction. Uh and we're getting so close. So please hit subscribe. Check if you're subscribed.

You may think you're subscribed. We might actually not be. So just double check. And if you're not, please hit subscribe. It's totally 100% free and super easy to do and will save me from having to shave my head if we don't hit that six million mark. Benji, where are we starting off today? Big bro,

I'll show you this document though right here. Jeffrey Epstein writing, "Can we do coffee with Don Jr. Thursday or Friday?" This is January 27th of 2019. Only if easy. As you know, I like people that are funny and so they're scheduling time to meet with Don Jr. whether that meeting actually occurred or not. Um, I think that's an important one. You have him talking about Epstein talking about meeting with the Trump boys. We're gonna meet with the Trump boys. This is Boris Nikolic. When are you back in New York City? Epste

was one of the executives of uh Epstein's estate, by the way. Yeah, he was the Exactly. He was the exe. He didn't And he was put there two days before Epstein ultimately died. Um, and this is an email from December 25th, 2016. Epstein says, "Fourth in palm with all the Trump boys. Fun." and Donald Trump and the Trump boys were indeed there during that time period when you go back and you look at it should also be noted that uh there's this message January 8th 2017 Epstein to a guy named Richard Mkin um who's an executive Epstein says you well Mkin says fair and you Epstein all good with Trump lots of opportunity all good with Trump lots of opportunity

and like we said I we tracked this we looked at the news articles we looked at the footage we looked at the Getty photos the historical record in newspapers, various publications. And when Epstein said with the Trump boys in Palm on that date, Donald Trump and them they were in Palm Beach that Christmas. Donald Trump is at Mara Lago. There articles about him going to uh doing a Christmas mass that year. It was right before uh you know he he took office for his first term. In that second part where he said with Trump, lots of opportunity. Again, Donald Trump uh was in New York when Epstein was saying he was in New York potentially with Trump.

And so, like we said, we have no way of confirming if those meetings actually took place, but these are what the emails state. And I think it's even more, you know, important to note that this clearly shows despite anything that may have actually occurred at the time that Epstein viewed himself as having an inline uh a direct line to people like Don Jr., to people like Donald Trump. The fact that he's trying to make these plans with Don Jr., the fact that he's trying to set all these things up, the stuff that he's speaking to Steve Bannon about, who obviously was especially back then, but still today very close with Donald Trump and was an adviser and an aid uh to Donald Trump. So, it's very clear that there were lines of communication we could surmise by just looking at the documents, looking at what's in black and white.

And by the way, also 100% debunks Trump's lie that he had ended his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein decades before, he kicked him out of Mara Lago, that he's a sleback, that he stopped his communication. I mean, it just blows that all up.

Well, yeah. I mean, there was I mean, Jordy to that point. I mean, we there was a New York Post article right around the time that uh Epstein made that sweetheart deal. And Epstein is quoted in the New York Post as saying, "What do you I'm not banned from Mara Lago. I was just invited to show up recently in page six of the New York Post back then." Okay. So you had um you know you had messages like that. Um you know you had uh Gilain Maxwell was referred to as G by Melania and Melania referred to Jeffrey Epstein as J. She goes uh J really good in the New York uh New York Magazine article. Nice story about

nice story about J and NY Mag. You look great on the picture. He's saying dear G to Galain. I know you're very busy flying all over the world. How was Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down. Give me a call when you are back in New York. Have a great time. Love Melania. And then Melania then Galain responds to Melania by calling Melania Trump. Sweet pee. She says, "Sweet pee, thanks for your message. Actually, plans changed again and I'm now on my way back to New York. I leave again on Friday, so I still do not think I have time to see you sadly. I will try and call though.

Keep well, G." And by the way, that's the New York Magazine article that Donald Trump said that Epstein is a good guy who likes women on the younger side, right? Like that was the article that didn't like go fully out there and say these things about Epstein because remember a lot of the reporting was pulled back and we know what was happening and the writer wanted to write more and the editors were kind of preventing it. But there were all the hints in that article as written about what was taking place and Melania said J look great. You look great in in this you know. So it's just so fascinating like you know you know like Melania wanted to you know further promote her failed movie yesterday. So she was holding these press conferences and she used these Israeli American uh people who were host who were held hostage by Hamas and she used them as like props in order to promote her movie and because

she was like you know um in the Melania movie I reached out to their family members so if you want to see Melania in theaters now and uh I'll show you that in a moment but Melania was asked by reporters um what do you make of Gileain Maxwell being in the minimum security facility. What do you think about that? Um Melania um watch Melania's response. Let's play it.

There's a call from the survivors that Maxwell moved to a high Thank you. We are We are here celebrating the release and the life of those two incredible people. So, let's honor that.

No, you don't get to enter into polite society. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like you you have to answer you have to answer these questions or don't show up. Right? You you think, oh, and did you see immediately her handlers when that question was asked? All right, everybody leave. Time to go out. Everybody leave.

Press conference is over. Press conference over. Let me show you what was just going down in that press conference. Here's how she promotes the movie Melania while she's with the freed hostages. Just watch this. 7 2023 and Keith was captured for 484 days. After Aviva was freed, she called me, wanted to see me and we set up a meeting in New York in January 2025. It was emotional meeting and uh it is it is captured on camera and available to see in my new film Melania. Um

like that's almost right out of Oh my god. And you could see it in theaters everywhere. This is the craziest

craziest thing. And then a reporter asks her, you know, and I like that reporters are finally asking questions that are more aggress like they're it's progressively getting better these questions and reporters are starting to feel more comfortable to ask these questions. So Jenna gets asked, "Why do you feel it's appropriate to use a White House event to promote your movie?" Like that's clearly what you just did. Like why do you think that's appropriate? Here, watch this.

Why do you feel it's appropriate to use an official White House event to promote your documentary? This is not promotion. We are here celebrating the release of the hostages of Viva and Keith. They were in uh Washington DC and they called me. They said they would like to come over to thank me and to uh to give uh hugs and that's why we are here. Has nothing to do with promotion.

It has nothing to do with a promotion guys. is it has nothing to do with like do you think we're stupid? So much of this is that question. Do you think we're that stupid? Right? At a time where Americans are psychologically tortured living paycheck to paycheck, at a time where you have January layoffs surging to 17-year high as US employers announced 108,435 layoffs in January, up 205% from December, the highest amount of layoffs since January 2009. Or how about job openings falling to 6.5 million in December, the lowest level since September 2020, while Donald Trump's out there suing his own government, settling with himself for $10 billion.

And they treat us all like we're so stupid. Like we don't know that what they're doing is what they're doing. Oh. Oh, Donald's going to give it a charity. He said he's going to give it a char. Oh, got it. Got it. This wasn't promotion when you just promoted the film Melania. Oh, they just called you up to say thank you while you were out promoting your move. Oh, and that ties into the release of these Epstein files though as well because what was taking place was a cabal of rich men using sex trafficking as their currency, abusing little girls and destroying the world, destroying the lives and destroying the world while they were at it too with everybody else. And it's like and we see, you know, I mean, look, you you know, you had you had Epstein talking about shorting the Russian ruble three days before or five days before the annexation of Crimea. He knew when Crimea was going to be attacked by

Russia. And so much of this was they were and you know it's notable too that they were talking about Bitcoin and Putin getting involved in Bitcoin and Epstein speaking with you know the royal family of UAE about Bitcoin back in like 2013 2014 and just think about how these individuals got so much richer propping up Bitcoin and then you see today Bitcoin crashing. Bitcoin has lost like 50% of its value in the past like week, week and a half. I mean, you know, or or the past few months, right? Go back to that last one right there before this.

The crypto market lost $2 trillion in value. Since October of 2025, as the Kobasi letter explains, on October 6th, crypto markets hit a record high market cap of 4.3 trillion. Today, the crypto market is worth just 2.3 trillion, losing$ two trillion dollars worth of market cap in four months. 46 I said 50, I'll be precise. 46% of crypto's entire value has been wiped out right now. And these are a lot of people who put money into this thinking, "Oh, I'm going to be rich." There,

especially at the beginning of Trump's campaign because Trump made such a big deal like, "I'm against crypto regulation. I'm the crypto president. If you like crypto, I'm your guy. Now, all of these people who bought crypto at that time are left holding the bag. A lot of them are just completely wiped out, completely liquidated because crypto now is below where it was uh after Donald Trump was elected. I mean, and it had spiked quite a bit, right? It had this big sugar high, you know, and peaked about four months ago before boom, just the bottom dropped out. And it is ugly right now. And I see these crypto people, they are scared. They are not happy. A lot of some of them have lost their life savings. It's disturbing and when you actually look at the files also as Ben said all of this is connected to all of kind of global affairs and the way the world works.

These are a lot of the people um and I know it sounds conspiratorial and I think a lot of things that sound conspiratorial we're learning are like very much real things but there are people who are kind of pulling the strings in world affairs and I think Epstein was very central to all of that. And so there was an email with Jeffrey Epstein and Peter Teal, which I think speaks to, you know, this issue that we're talking about right now. And in general, you know, a lot of the things that we're going to be speaking about, Peter Teal, obviously the uh Silicon Valley guy, uh he'll found PayPal with Elon Musk, very tied into that whole kind of tech cabal of Elon Musk and David Saxs, and he's the reason why JD Vance is where he is. He's he funded JD Vance. He Palunteer, all all that stuff, Peter Teal. And so here is a message that Jeffrey Epstein sent to Peter Teal in 2016. And I think this is very

revealing. Jeffrey Epstein said to Peter Teal that uh Jeff first he said Brexit just the beginning. So they're talking about Brexit back then. Um Peter Thiel says of what? And Jeffrey Epstein says, and I want you to think right now if this sounds familiar to the policies of the Trump regime and to exactly what Trump is trying to do and what all of these people who are involved in this are trying to do right now and how it fits in with current society and economics and geopolitics. So Jeffrey Epstein says, "Return to tribalism, counter to globalization, amazing new alliances. You and I both agree zero interest rates were too high." I mean, how often have weard Trump said that?

And as I said in your office, finding things on their way to collapse was much easier than finding the next bargain. So he's saying out loud that they will have an easier time making money if things collapse, if they're able to return to tribalism. I mean, does this not define the last few years of the United States and the world of these right-wing oligarchs who have been pushing all of this stuff? You're seeing it right there in black and white. And as we see the communications as well between, you know, as we showed you, he was trying to set up a meeting with Don Jr. in uh was it 2018, 2019, as we saw him say that uh you know, saying that he was with uh the Trump boys at in Palm Beach, it appears in uh 2016. Um, I thought about this article um that was written, I think it was sometime last year in the Daily Beast where they alleged that Epstein's butler where they say that Epstein's butler alleged that Jeffrey Epstein

boasted about getting a job offer from Donald Trump to work in the first Trump administration. I mean, if you remember, listeners of the show know I made a joke about this a few weeks ago that if Epstein wasn't arrested that he'd probably be like in Trump's cabinet. He'd probably be like Treasury Secretary. I forgot about this article right here. Epstein Butler claims boss posted about Trump job offer. And this isn't some like guy who was just in and out of Epstein's orbit. This was a guy who was with Epstein for more than a decade. I could get the exact uh I think he was with Epstein for like 15 years or something at his Paris 18 years. So he he ran Epstein's Paris home and worked for the disgrace finance here for 18 years. and he gave a wide-ranging on thereord interview with the Telegraph where he said the following. Trump asked me to work for him in the new government. The butler claimed Epstein

said, "I said congratulations. I'm happy for you and my bad English." And Epstein said, "No, I didn't accept." Now, that on its own is just one data point. When you put that with all these other data points of showing in the emails that Epstein is saying essentially that he's very close with Trump, that he's with Trump, send this message to Trump, trying to get set up with Don Jr., whatever it is. I I p I believe in my opinion, in my first amendment protected free speech opinion, I completely believe that that is the case.

Absolutely. I mean, look, when you look behind the curtain at all this, it it I feel like it's just so much even more evil and coordinated than anyone I maybe even could have like thought. Like, pulling these pieces together, it is it is wild. It is wild. And I I just want to comment on a few things here. On inauguration day, January 20th, 2025, Bitcoin was over $109,000. As of right now, it is $64,000. So just absolutely bonkers for someone Donald Trump who campaigned as the pro- crypto guy. I also don't want to lose this site, Ben. Um when when Galain called Melania sweet pee, I I don't know if that's like a regional term or whatever, but like the only times I've heard sweet pee is like the ultimate term of endearment. So I just want like I just want to put that in into the world. Like my wife's grandmother refers to her as sweet pea. like it is someone that you know you're not just calling

any Joe Schmo off the street sweet pee just to show you just another data point for how how close these two likely were and I I know you're giving it up Ben for the press you know finally pushing uh finally pushing Melania a bit more and I agree with you I think the questioning was better but I just can't happen you know to think to myself sitting here right now watching those clips if that was if that was Dr. Joe Biden being asked those questions by those same reporting class. How much more sort of with vigor would those reporters be coming with? And there wouldn't just be one question sort of, you know, just peppered in here and there. It would be every single question. And by the way, they would have every legitimate right to do it if President Biden was in the Epstein files at all. And so when you see these reporters, I think to your point, Ben, there are some asking good questions, but I just have to be like to

myself, I wish they were asking her more. I wish they were being stronger and more forceful about it because there is clearly a much more deeper relationship here between Galain and Melania than we all know. And we should we the collective we should all know what that relationship entails.

Yes. No. If Dr. Jill Biden was friends with a child sex trafficker and in the files and was promoting her own movie

that a right-wing oligarch paid her $75 million for and then had a state regime media promote it. I agree Jordy Dr. would be asked a lot more difficult questions than but that's where I want to pull back and just say like we are in these unprecedented times where Donald Trump is having his IRS where the acting director is Bessant who runs the Treasury Department give Donald Trump from the general fund of Treasury paid into by taxpayers $10 billion because Donald Trump said that he was the victim of a data breach that 44 4,000 other Americans also were back in 2021. So now Trump wants 10 billion dollar for himself, which he claims he's going to give to charity. I'll address that. He's not. I'll explain though what I think the scheme is there as well, which seems pretty obvious to me. Um, but then you have Donald Trump posting things like this. This is the White House posted this. Then even they had to

delete it. For the first time in five years, a majority of Americans say their personal finances are improving. This is just the beginning of the Trump economic boom. 62% say their personal finances are getting better. I mean quite literally the poll is the opposite. Like 72 or 75% of Americans say that they are that the economy is poor or just fair. But like no one's saying it's doing good or better right now. It's the

By the way, I think that's so indicative of where we are right now, right? Cuz even on a right-wing friendly platform like X, formerly Twitter, the White House posts that propaganda image, and they were so ruthlessly mocked and derided by people of all sides that they actually deleted it. I mean, that's to me alone speaks volumes,

right? or or or Trump during an interview yesterday with NBC and we'll show you more of the cognitive stuff that he was saying, but he says that he really likes Bill Clinton. He's upset that Bill Clinton has been subpoenaed to testify along with Hillary Clinton regarding the Epstein files and that it's and that Bill Clinton is being treated unfairly. Watch this and then we'll talk to you about what's really going on. Let's play it.

NBC News broke the story today. I don't know if you saw it that the Democrats are already saying if you bring President Bill Clinton and he has to testify, we're bringing President Trump. What do you say to that?

I I think they might say that, you know, but they've already brought me. See, I've been brought uh they had me indicted uh many, many times. Many, many times.

And the president had some surprising thoughts about former President Bill Clinton.

It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clinton.

What do you like about him? Uh, I liked well I liked his behavior toward me. I thought he got me. He understood me. You know, he was the one that said very famously that you don't want to run against Trump. When there were 18 people, there was 18 people including me total. And he kept telling them, "You don't want to run against Trump. Run against anyone. Don't run against Trump." And Hillary sort of laughed at him.

He goes there. I mean, he's he's a deranged, demented human being. I don't even have to show you the other clips, but we know Donald Trump's been the one saying, "Go after Bill Clinton. Go after Hillary Clinton. Focus on them with the Epstein files, not me." So, what changed? Oh, I know what changed. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton posted that she and former President Bill Clinton are have agreed that not only do they want to testify before the House Oversight Committee, they want to do it in public. And here's what former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton writes. For six months, we engaged Republicans on the oversight committee in good faith. We told them what we know under oath. They ignored all of it. They moved the goalposts and turned accountability into an exercise in distraction. So, let's stop the games.

If you want this fight, James Comr, it's the MAGA Republican who leads the House Oversight Committee. Let's have it in public. You love to talk about transparency. There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing. Cameras on. We will be there. So, in response to that, that's why Donald Trump has changed his tune on Clinton. And the Clintons called Trump's bluff. You want to do a whole hearing in Congress on Epstein? Let's do it. Hillary Clinton says, "I'll go first. Let's do it in public. Let's go. We'll talk about everybody's connections with Epstein.

And that's Donald Trump. That's such a baller post by her. Like that is really like

No, it is. Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. And it needs to get more by the way, what she's doing there needs to get more attention. And like it's weird though to your point, Jordy, about corporate media. Like no one's connecting the dots that obviously that's why Donald Trump is now saying that. And you know, the MAGA Republicans are going to say, "Oh, oh, actually, uh, we want to do a deposition in private first." And they're not gonna want to do it in public. And then they're gonna try to hold them in contempt when they don't want to do it in private. Exactly. And then they're gonna try to take little snippets of it and say, "Oh, look what we got of Bill Clinton." Because they're clowns. They're fascist clowns. All of them. Not political Republican.

They're they're just bad humans, these MAGAs who engage in this types of behavior. So Ben, it's what I said last episode. They don't have an honest bone in their body. They don't care. of these Republicans do not care to get to the truth at all. That's the last thing they want. That's that's actually the last thing they want. They want to use their positions of power to enrich themselves. So, take a quick break. We'll be right back. A reminder, hit subscribe. You may think you're subscribed. We're close to that 6 million mark. Help us get to 6 million. Subscribe now. Go check out our audio podcast as well. If you watch on YouTube, subscribe on audio. Leave a fivestar review as audio on the audio podcast and go to midasplus.com. That's our Substack. All right, let's take our first quick break of the show. We will be right back.

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Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com/midus today to get started. That's selectquote.comus.me das. Welcome back. Thank you to our sponsors. Discount codes in the description below. Jordy had to go on papa papa job being a parent. Um, and so he's he's dealing with that. Um, let's, uh, let's get into some of the other news right now. Uh, so, uh, during that bizarre interview that Donald Trump had with NBC, Donald Trump was asked about settling with his own government, uh, settling with the, and it should be our government, but he's basically, you know, his regime has taken over all layers, remember? So he just sued the IRS, the Treasury Department. So his own United States, he sued for $10 billion saying that he was part of a data breach on tax returns back in 2021. And there was that guy Little John there is that was the guy's name, not the rapper. Um who who took

who kind of you know had access to all of these things. I think it impacted uh I think it impacted over 400,000 Americans uh who were subject to that data breach during the Senate hearing with Bessant. They it sounded like they were saying 44,000, but I think maybe they were saying 404,000. I I'll show you that in a moment, but I'll I'll make the point I want to make then. But anyway, on that basis, Donald Trump has sued basically himself with Bessant as the defendant, $10 billion. And Trump says he's already won the lawsuit against the United States government. He just sued as the president. He goes, "But I did it in my private capacity."

So now he's going to pay himself $10 billion of our taxpayer dollars. And he's asked about it. And with a straight face, he's like, "Yeah, that's what I'm going to do." Absolutely. Here, play this clip. Essentially, the lawsuit's been won.

I guess I won a lot of money. So, Scott Besson's the head of the IRS. Bonnie's the head of the Justice Department. They're going to defend the IRS against you. You're the

Well, there's never been anything like it in all fairness. So, are you are you going to Don't forget I sued as a private citizen

because I sued between terms. I won three times. I won three times, but I didn't assume unfortunately for this country, I didn't assume office the second time. But here's the story. I sued because they broke into Mara Lagoa. That was before I became president. Now it goes along and it turned out that the suit is a very strong suit. U

you're going to tell them to pay you though cuz you're the boss. Well, I would what I would do tell them to pay me but I'll give 100% of the money to charity. I don't want any of that money.

Take it out of the system. Um a couple more questions here. No, no, I'm putting it back into the system. If I give money to American Cancer Society, I would I will give 100% of the money away to check. I don't want any

$30 trillion debt and we're going to take 10 billion out of the system. Well, I mean, you give it away anyway. They give away a lot of money.

Your endorsement. Speaking about Okay, first off, I think we all agree that's crazy. Like, that's criminal in my opinion. First amendment, right? I'm giving you my opinion. you're going to you're going to steal our taxpayer money and force the government to settle with yourself. Like this stuff is unfathomable. Like it's unfathomable criminal and crazy in in my opinion that that this is a serious thing that they're actually doing right now. I also think we all agree that he's probably not going to give this money to charity.

Oh, sure he is. The uh the Donald J. Trump uh Foundation, but just assume he gives it to charity, though. You know what the plan would be, right? Everybody gets what he's going to try to do. Then he's going to then he's here's here's what I think he's going to I'll give you my opinion. First, he's going to claim that he suffered physical emotional distress such that he's going to claim that the $10 billion is tax-free and not income when he settles with himself. Is the IRS going to enforce that? Yeah. Bessent is going to make an opinion that Trump is in a personal physical injury.

You think they're going to audit Donald Trump and say that that's how he's taking it. So, he's going to take it as a personal physical injury under the IRS code that I used to advise clients in personal injury cases that you should see a tax adviser who will give you the real, but you can get it tax-free if it's a personal physical injury. Obviously, this isn't a personal physical injury, but I bet you Trump thinks Trump will claim it that way. So, he won't even pay taxes on the amount. Then if he gives 10 billion to charity, what he'll do is he'll use it as a comp he'll use it as a complete offset on his income or he'll he'll use it as a deduction. And then what he'll also do because who's going to audit him? Then he'll carry the extra money. Let's just say he donates 10 billion that he paid himself from the government to them.

then in his own mind he'll never pay taxes for the rest of his life because he will carry he'll get a tax person tell him that he can then carry the deduction over to every tax year for the remainder of his life and then he'll never pay taxes again. So then when he does the shady deals with the United Arab Emirates and or whoever and makes the billions of dollars, he'll pay zero income tax because he entered into a tax-free settlement that he then donates the money and it's a complete offset on all of his taxes. I just want to let you know what that assume he gave it to charity. That's what his plan, you know, is it's not you're not tricking people like who are in the who are professionals. You're like, I know what he's trying to do there as well, assuming he does that. Hope he doesn't just take it for himself. Then we never hear from it again and we never see the donation. Oh, I'm thinking about it. I'm

thinking about what I'm going to I'm thinking about what I'm going to take. And think about how much money Trump has already made from the presidency. He's profited from the presidency like nobody ever in history. The New York Times did that report recently. uh where they estimated that he has already made at least $1.4 or $1.5 billion on at the floor at the absolute lowest. Obviously, you know, wealth and and stakes and things are not necessarily liquid uh cash and and income in that capacity. But you could see if that's where we're starting at at the lowest end right now, and I think it's personally significantly higher than that. Um, if that's where we're starting, think about the buffer he just gave himself with, to Ben's point, with the taxes to continue to earn billions and billions and billions of dollars completely tax-free by scamming the United States taxpayer.

I mean, it is a devious plot to enrich himself and not have to pay a penny. And what do you think he's setting up the offshore Qatari bank accounts for? you know, he's diverting government money for unlawful invasions of countries and other activity like that to then keep the money not within the Treasury, but then to um segregate money in a Qatari account that he has access to that there's no oversight over at all. And again, this shouldn't be a Democrat, Republican, independent thing that this should just be we should all be infuriated by by by this behavior, especially as Americans are psychologically tortured living paycheck to paycheck right now if they're lucky enough to have a paycheck. Americans can't afford rent, they can't afford homes, highest student loan delinquency since, you know, great recession, that, you know, type of highest car loan deficiency, all of these things. I'll

just show you this other clip when Donald Trump I want to show you what happened at the uh at the uh at the Senate hearing where Senator Gyos was cross-examining Besset. But first, let me just show you Donald Trump talking about cognitive stuff and that he takes cognitive exams just so you can see like the the the the level of insanity we're dealing with here. Here, play this clip.

I feel great. I mean, physically and mentally, I feel like I did 50 years ago. It's crazy. Now, there'll be a time when I won't be able to give you that answer, but that time hasn't come. You know, I I do I think it's very important. I've done more physicals. I take physicals just to give the report out.

Yeah. I take cognitive physicals. So, I do a cognitive mind test. Okay. And a lot of people wouldn't be able to do very well. Not easy. You know, you get to those last questions. I've aced I've done three of them. No other president has agreed to do them. I do them because I have no problem with it because I'm 100% now. Okay. And again, as we watch him there and our audio listeners, you can't see him. I mean, you hear how crazy he sounds, but he he looks like a mad person. Like, and and then you have the interviewer looking at him like he's watching somebody who is deeply unwell.

And that's that shouldn't be acceptable for our country. There was that one moment that was particularly bizarre. Speaking of cognitive issues, we don't have to play the clip, but there was the moment where he he was asked about people getting killed by ICE. And Donald Trump said, "I hate even talking about ICE. Two people, this he like downplayed people's deaths and and said fewer deaths than there's actually been from ICE, but he says two people out of tens of thousands and you get bad publicity." And Yamus was like there was two Americans who died. And then Trump just his brain, who the hell knows what the hell was happening here, but he's talking about the deaths at the hands of ICE, the murders by the ICE uh people. And Donald Trump says responds, "We have the smallest trucks. We have been very tough on the waters." And Tom Yamos, the NBC host, was like, "What?

The waters? What you we the water? Did you just say the waters?" And then he started is talking about, "Oh yeah, we knocked out a lot of boats on the waters." just completely veering off topic into something that was so utterly nonsensical, talking about bombing drug boats when he's in the middle of a completely other other thought. Um, it was it was bizarre and I think you saw, you know, more evidence of that cognitive decline uh in this interview that was on MSNBC. I mean, that was just like a one of many very strange moments.

That brings us to the Senate hearing from earlier in the day. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant uh is the witness. And let me show you part of the cross-examination that transpired. Democratic Senator Gyos of Arizona uh starts cross-examining him. Let's just play the first clip of Gyos.

But if the president prevails in this lawsuit, he's going to be able to pocket that money. Um my question is, is the president has anyone in the president's office talked to you about this lawsuit in any regard?

Uh they have not. And the president has said he will donate the proceeds to charity. You may have missed that. So, no one at all has discussed this to you whatsoever.

No, sir. And the president said he Have you received I'm I didn't ask any more questions. Have you received any advice from Treasury's legal division about how to handle this potential conflict?

This is a Justice Department matter. They represent Treasury in it. Have someone from Department of Justice actually come and talk to you saying that this is their purview and you need to stay out of it or what what have who who has discussed to you? What is your role in this? Our our general counsel who's sitting behind me has told me that it is a justice department matter. The justice department defends treasuries and treasury in matters like this.

Okay. So you have has been discussed with you. Do you have any final say at all in the process of this or is the DOJ just going to instruct you to cut a check and or settle and you have no independence to actually make a decision whether or not the president deserves $10 billion? Uh again, that that is a DOJ matter.

And so the DOJ will entirely make that decision if and whether or not the president should receive $10 billion. You have no say at all.

Correct. So you will just have to write the check if you were told to write the check.

Correct. And you would write the check willingly if you told by DOJ to the president.

I I I will follow the law, Senator. Okay. I mean, I think for many of us, this is very simple. And I think if if this had been happening in any other countries through the book, an absolute like a total uh shakeddown uh of the American taxpayer, are you also

Yeah. because you watch that you're like, how is this even real? How is this even a thing? And I think when I show you in the next segment what was happening in the UK parliament and how they're addressing it versus how things are being addressed here in the or not addressed based on the Trump regime and Donald Trump saying, "I'm not in the files. I'm vindicated. There's no issue. Nothing. I'm I'm perfect, you know. And then our corporate news is like on the one hand, it's denied. On the other, it's just like we have we are living in this really warped and demented timeline here in the United States that is lacking normaly setting aside politics like basic morality. But I want let's just sum up the Trump administration's philosophy here. They don't have money to help you, the average American. But they will happily give $10 billion of your money to Donald Trump while telling you that you should enjoy your one

pencil, your one doll, your one piece of broccoli, your one tortilla, and your one piece of chicken, and you will be happy about it. I mean, it's such a slap in the face to people. It is so offensive. It is so grotesque. It is just the height of kleptocracy and oligarchy. It is just detestable. I want to talk more about that hearing. Producers are saying we got to take our last break of the show. So, let's go to our last quick break. A reminder, we're close to 6 million subscribers. So, if you want to have me stop saying let's get to six million and have me start saying get to 7 million, make sure you're subscribed.

Pretty good offer right there, Ben. You really you're you're you really know how to incentivize people.

I've got a great offer for everybody when we come back. How about I give you a plan each to make $10 billion? And how about this? All of our audience can make somewhere in the range of 10 to 20 quadrillion dollars more than trillion. We're in the quadrillion. It's getting real, folks.

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I I loved how GGO here makes it clear that this money leaves no doubt that this money is being stolen from the taxpayers like that this is coming from the IRS general fund which is where when you pay your taxes it goes into a general fund account at the IRS and that's what Trump is rating in his lawsuit. taking $10 billion out for himself at a time where, as you heard in the other interview, our national debt is heading to $39 trillion. And Trump is increasing our debt dramatically. And federal spending is up and all the stuff that Doge promised it was going to do was a complete and utter failure. It actually added to our national debt.

Let's play the second clip. You know, we kind of touched on this earlier. In addition to being Treasury Secretary, you are serving as acting director of the IRS. So, following up on Senator Kim's uh questioning. Uh so, you are fully aware that the president is suing uh your agency for $10 billion.

We would agree. Would you agree that $10 million is a good sum of money? Uh yes, sir.

Where would that be cut from? Let's say for some reason he actually wins that lawsuit. Where would that $10 billion come from? Uh again um it would come from

process wise. I'm not asking like your opinion whether it's right or wrong. It would come from Treasury.

It come from Treasury which comes from the general fund. The Treasury general account.

So taxpayers. Uh yes. Thank you. Part of the 440,000 taxpayers whose returns were leaked. If the now if the president they're not suing but if the president

they're not suing but this is where I told you I'd give you advice. I just want you to think about why Donald Trump has bankrupted so many things. He doesn't think ahead and he's a criminal and he's also a sexual abuser and he's also an utter fraud. But let's use that example right there. I originally thought I heard Besson say 44,000, but listening to it again, he said 404,000, I believe. Um, hundreds of thousands of people were impacted by the same data breach that Trump is claiming injured him personally, he says, to the tune of 10 billion. And mind you, Trump sued the Wall Street Journal for $20 billion and the Nobel Peace with the the Puliter Prize Committee rather for billions of dollars and this one for billions of dollars, that one for billion. You add up all of Trump's lawsuits, it's like a hundred billion dollar 200. He's got $200 billion dollars in claims out there, which are all bogus and BS and

frivolous in my opinion. Those numbers are just utterly utterly pathetic and just made up numbers. But assume he's saying that the damage for the data breach in 2021 is $10 billion, right? So what would stop somebody right now who was also impacted by that data breach to say I want to be part of a class action of people impacted by the same data breach. What would stop a lawyer from finding a victim of the data breach? And by the way in these data breach cases they usually settle for like 500 bucks and you get like data security. I used to handle data breach cases as a lawyer as well. you know the you know when when Equifax and all those types of companies remember like those companies had their data breached people would get like a thousand bucks or 2,000 bucks and um you'd get like a data security for like five years free or something like that's usually how those cases you don't get $10 billion but okay what if you have a

good databach plaintiff's class action lawyer says oh wow $10 billion per victim per you know per person okay well let's have a class action I'll represent all 404,000 or 40. Let's just say 44,000 because that's what I did the math on. Then everybody's damage is 10 billion. We'll file the class action. The Department of Justice is going to have to defend it, right? And they're conceding on the Trump lawsuit that they owe him 10 billion. Bessent said that there's 44 thou 44,000 other people impacted by this. Okay. So the class action demand if it was 44,000 people impacted would be about 470 or whatever it is. I'm horrible for but around 450 to 470 trillion dollar right so if Trump sets a precedent that he gets 10 billion then shouldn't the other 400,000 people all get 10 billion? So now our national debt just went from $ 38 trillion, which Trump is responsible for about 30 to 35% of that, and that's going up, by the

way, to now in the quadrillions because now the government's going to have to pay out a class action settlement of a quadrillion dollars or at the low end $470 trillion based on that logic, right? Oh, then you're going to go, "Well, actually, we're going to fight the class action, but Donald Trump's we're going to settle with Donald Trump." Okay. Well, that'll be an interesting argument for the DOJ to have to make before a federal judge. Hey, judge, they conceded that this is a claim. So, but do you see how just even doing this has repercussions on everything? You see how Donald Trump's tariffs against the world ends up leading to all the other countries entering to agreements with each other and cutting the United States out, right? I mean, do you see how Donald Trump trying to enrich himself and his Bitcoin company, World Liberty Financial, by giving away our uh semiconductor technology to the UAE

ends up resulting both in the destruction of our national security secrets and Bitcoin collapsing as well, you know, as Trump enters the Bitcoin space um in such a kind of phony and in my opinion fabricated way. And now Bitcoin is crashing in my view as a result of Don. Like do you see how all of his things have the same reaction? And now you have a stock market here in the United States and GDP which is basically propped up by deal churn of AI companies just doing deals with each other. They are concealing in my opinion the debt on their balance sheet by saying it's capex expenditures on the onp paying loans or paying leases rather on data centers. Um and so they're they're actually hiding debt by creating these structures that act like the that act like their debt is capex expenditures. It's all bogus in my view.

It's all a fugazi. And the SEC, which is supposed to step in and regulate, they're nowhere to be found. The criminals are getting pardoned by Donald Trump. And this doesn't actually help anybody because everybody gets screwed by it in the long run. Which brings me to I I just I know American media does not usually cover what goes on in the Parliament of UK, but I think it is telling and and important for us to to to talk about. Brett, before I show the UK Parliament, did you want to comment on any of that?

Uh, I think you basically covered it all, but I I just want to say if you're a Trump voter out there, what are you getting out of this at this point? Like, you've you're losing your jobs. If you were a big crypto person, you've lost all your crypto. You're giving Donald Trump 10 billion dollars of your money. It's like the guy is screwing you left and right. He's scamming you in emails with all these tricks. Is it just so you could like hate whoever you want to hate and feel good about it? Because right now there is really truly no justification for anything. Even if like I'm not even going to go but it's just like wake up, wake up. This guy is a scam artist and you are the mark and you are the ones who are enabling this to continue to happen. And I think that's why though we see Donald Trump's approval rating right now, even the latest Rasmusen poll falling off a cliff because he actually is starting to lose

some of these base voters. Before we get into the clips from the UK Parliament, I do want to give a shout out to people in the UK. I've always loved watching clips of UK Parliament. Y'all get rowdy. You get right up in each other's grill. Like, I would love to be able to see in the United States a president of the United States just get screamed at by everybody around there in Congress. It really is actually to me, you know, a very powerful thing to to see leaders be held accountable like that in a setting like that. And so, you know, these clips, I think it's interesting to note right now that as we see the fallout from the Epstein files, a lot of what we're seeing in terms of the fallout is politically speaking is happening overseas. It's happening in the UK. You have uh Prime Minister Kier Starmer in the UK under fire. Uh you have uh Peter Mandelen in the UK. Um he's resigned from his

position. He's out now. Appears to be under a criminal investigation due to giving Jeffrey Epstein some tips of information from the government before it was actually made public about major major global affairs and economic policy shifts. And so you're seeing things in Norway, you're seeing things in investigations in Lithuania, you're seeing uh Poland speak out, Donald Tusk and Poland speaking out about this. But here, as I said earlier in the episode, you have the Department of Justice and these Republicans acting like Donald Trump's personal law firm. You are seeing some fallout in uh certain sects of uh corporations and whatnot. You're seeing like a uh the the chair of Paul Weiss, the law firm. Uh I should note one of the and maybe the first law firm to cave to Donald Trump. Um he is out because he was all over the Epstein files. And so we are seeing a fallout like that. But as of now, and I don't

expect this to change anytime soon, all these Republicans and the DOJ, our government structure right now is protecting Donald Trump throughout all of this. Now, Ben, let's go to the UK cuz these clips, uh, to me, um, I think they're powerful. You also have David Ross, department chair at the School of Visual Arts in New York City, former director of the Whitney Museum of American Art, announced resignation as well. Um, okay. Let's take a look at what was going on in the UK to to be just so everybody knows the dynamic. Uh, this man Mandelen guy, he was the UK ambassador to the United States. Um, people knew that he had some or the the party that appointed him, the Labor Party, knew he had some connections to Epstein, um, but didn't know the extent of it. And he had some questionable ethical issues in the past as well. by the way, he's in the Epstein files in very grotesque ways, but in my view, not

quite as, you know, not I mean, it's hard to say which is more grotesque than the other. But I mean, Trump was in it far more than Mandlesson, you know, was in it. And Trump was closer for every Trump says Epstein's a great guy, even the stuff that are in the files that we knew about Trump before, you know, all all over. So, we know Trump's deep connections to Epstein, undisputed. Um, but now the opposition party, the Tories in the UK, the Conservative party there, um, you know, they're out there. And by the way, the Tories have their own issues and their own, you know, it's not like they're, you know, free of any kind of corruption and issues. And also, I don't want to lose sight of the reform party, Nigel Farage, which is their far right-wing party kind of working with Russia and as part of a lot of this cabal as well, in order to undermine and break down government. So when I focus on the Labor Party, I think it's

important, especially as an American talking about politics of another country, that I do so with the nuance it deserves. That I'm not in any way ignoring Nigel Farage, the Reform Party, the right-wing extremist party there, and their links to Putin, and their links to trying to Brexit, which is what Epstein was also involved in, Brexit, and talking about how that's going to create opportunities for, you know, this cabal of people. And obviously Farage was a major player in Brexit, you know, for example, as well. So I don't want to talk about so so anyway. So you have the opposition party in the UK parliament pressing prime minister Kier Starmer for answers and accountability. Hey Starmer, when you won the election and there's a big Labor party majority right now in the parliament from the election that they won and K and a Starr should be relatively the Labor party itself should based on the seats that they hold in

parliament you know should be relatively safe through 2029 which is when the next elections you know would otherwise be. Starmer right now personally is vulnerable because what did he know? When did you know it about Mandlesen? And that became a big theme like this guy was hanging out with the Pedto and he disgraced and shamed the UK. So first I want you to watch as some of the opposition uh leaders and opposition figures start raising the issue of Mandolen's connections with Epstein and what did prime minister of UK Kier Star know and when did he know it? Let's play the first one. Absolutely. It absolutely beggars belief and if we want to clean up politics then this sort of thing should not be being allowed to happen.

Politics is a difficult place. We know that. But this this was down to judgment.

Yeah. It was down to the judgment of one person or was it the judgment of others around that person? So I urge the honorable and right honorable members on the Labor benches opposite do the right thing this evening. Stand up for democracy. Stand up for parliament and stand up for decency.

Listen speaker liberation day. My goodness. That is how Manderson described the day of Epstein's release for prison for procuring children. Absolutely disgusting

to be trafficked and raped. Disgusting. Mandlesson's next message was, "How is freedom feeling?" Epstein replied, "She feels fresh, firm, and creamy."

Disgusting. Mandlesson's next reply. Naughty boy. Disgusting. Now, we hadn't seen this email, I'll admit, when the ambassador was appointed, but let's look at what we did know when he was appointed ambassador. We knew at that point that he had consoled this pedophile, consoled him on his being found guilty and convicted for just one of the many, many crimes he committed. We also knew that while he was deputy prime minister of this country and business and trade secretary carrying the flag of our great nation on an official visit to New York, he stayed in a convicted pedophile's flat. How dare

and let me show you this next clip of another. By the way, I guess the Epstein people really like using the phrase liberation day. That was the phrase that people.

Oh, absolutely. Exactly. Liberation day is what we hear from Trump. All liberation day. Liberation day. Take a listen to this next member of parliament there.

Now, the prime minister was asked today directly, could he tell us, did the official security vetting that he received mention Mandlesson's ongoing relationship with the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein?

And he replied, "Yes, it did. Now the point is that when the minister says he lied to the prime minister but the prime minister knew that the relationship was ongoing. So even if he lied about some other aspects of the relationship, cannot the minister see that the fact there was any ongoing relationship at all with a man who'd been imprisoned for pedophilia and prostitution. Can he not see that that was an impossible position to defend and no

and finally let me show you when Prime Minister Kier Starmer was directly confronted and he had to stand there and answer for it and while to me his answer was not acceptable and I think that's how most people in the UK feel and again I want to be very clear that it's very hypocritical for the Tories to act holier than thou like I I I know that's coming in the comments and certainly by my focus here, I'm not ignoring the Reform Party's role in Brexit and being part of this whole desire of right-wing authoritarians to topple the world order, create disruption that we talked about. So, I just again I want to I need to be very sensitive when reporting on foreign air, especially as an American that I I listen to you loud and clear. Um, but I want you to watch as Starmer admits to a mistake and says, "Yes, I was told I was lied to, but he did." He doesn't deny, "No, I don't know what you're talking

about." He He takes a level of responsibility for it and confesses and says, "Yes, I knew." And then there's an audible gasp of, "Watch this." Can the prime minister tell us did the official security vetting he received mention Mandlesson's ongoing relationship with the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein?

So prime minister yes it did a as a as a result various questions were put to him. I intend to disclose to this house all of the the national security produce to international relations on one side. I want to make sure that I want to make sure this house sees the full documentation so it will see for itself the extent to which the extent to which time and time again Mandlesson completely misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Epstein and lied throughout the process. Yeah, I thought that was important to to show you and to and to to share that with you. And of course, here you have Magamike Johnson. Let's contrast that to what Magamike Johnson said when he was asked by Manu Raju in the halls of the capital about Trump appearing over and over again on these files. Just take a look at the difference. Play this clip.

Shouldn't Trump have to answer some questions, too? He's been named more than a thousand times in these documents. The president submits to press inquiries every day.

Not under oath. Not under oath. Not under oath, but he's asked the questions all the time and he answers them. Uh, we'll see where it goes.

Brett, isn't that just night and day? Like I said, this this Republicans, the Supreme Court, the Department of Justice, everybody here just acts as if they are Donald Trump's own personal defense attorneys. And this is a really serious subject and a really dark subject and not something to joke about. Um it's horrifying. It is something that uh demands accountability uh from those figures who are deemed to be uh guilty of heinous acts uh via the files. And uh you know, while it's heartening to see other countries step up and demand accountability for their leaders, it's very disheartening here in the United States to see this protection racket uh that exists around Donald Trump right now because this is, like I said, really serious, really heinous stuff uh we are dealing with. And it certainly appears that Donald Trump was right in the center of all of it.

Absolutely. And what's Donald Trump focused on today? Uh he will agree to remove, you know, blocking important critical funds for New York if you put his name on everything. Trump wants his name on Dulles and Penn Station and he has asked Schumer support renaming Washington Dulles and Penn Station after Trump and then Trump will release the funding for the Gateway project. I mean, you just see this behavior over and over again, and you're like, the hell is even happening here? I'll I'll leave us with some good news. Virginia in the uh in their uh both houses, their their chambers controlled by a Democrat uh Democrats in both houses now. um they put forward a 10 to one map and not only have Democrats now completely neutralized MAGA's effort to rig the midterms, Democrats are actually going to net more seats it seems in the mid decade redistricting. And not only that, what Trump has done in Texas based on what we

saw over the weekend in Texas state senate district number nine were a plus 17 Trump district turned plus4 to Democrat, a 31 plus shift is by creating five additional Republican seats that they believed would go Republican in their mid decade redistricting. They've now diluted other seats that may have been even safer Republican seats. So now there's so many more seats that have been put down below plus 15 in Texas. So now what Trump inadvertently did is made all these other seats more vulnerable in Texas right now based on the results that we're seeing in Democratic overperformance. And so, not only may the Democrats win those five seats that Trump thought would turn Republican, but now some of those other Texas seats that maybe say went from plus 17 or plus 20 to plus 12 or plus 13 in order to then give some of those voters in the to the blue districts to turn those districts red because you have to pull from

someplace in order to, you know, create a a redder district. They may have now created a situation where they just handed even more seats to Democrats as a result. Let me leave you with the uh Senate Protemporate um along with the leader of their equivalent of their house chamber there. Watch this press conference that uh they held. Let's play.

Give me more seats. Then that's not enough. So he calls North Carolina, Missouri, Ohio. I need more. I need more. Today we are leveling the playing field. There are not these are not ordinary times and Virginia will not sit on the sidelines while it happens. We made a promise to level the playing field and today we're keeping our promise. Our maps are ready. Virginia is ready. We said 101 and we made it and we are proud to deliver a map that stands up for democracy to stand up Virginiaians to stand up and give us a voice. He started this mess and Virginia is going to finish it.

Virginia to the rescue. Senator Lucas said it best. We've been working really hard to make sure that we got this delivered. This is about leveling the playing field. Across the country, Republicans are gerrymandering maps to override the will of the voters. We just saw it in Texas, North Carolina, and Missouri. At Donald Trump's direction, they're manipulating election maps because they know they can't win on their agenda in 2026. So instead of changing their ideas, they're trying to rig the system. A 10-1 map levels the playing field, and we're ready to move forward. Today they are making good on our promise by releasing the maps publicly. We're going to get them released either by the end of the day or early tomorrow. We'll get those maps released and putting them out in the open and allowing them to be debated the way they should be in a democracy. We're going to leave it up to Virginia voters.

The maps are ready. Virginia is ready. And as my senator said many times, 101 10. Thank y'all. Appreciate it.

They did say 10-1 the entire time. So hat tip right there to the Senate proemperee state senator Lucas and uh Speaker Scott right there who's been on the show who's been in the show a lot before but also give a hat tip to to Governor Nuome with Prop 50 really starting the push back and you see when you fight back you win like to me that's the lesson and that's a good lesson to end on. when you fight back, you win. And we're seeing that, you know, when you fight, Trump did wanted to hide the Epstein files. By the way, there's still three million files that have not been produced that I believe are far more devastating than what's actually been turned over. But you fight for them. You get leaders who say, "We're not giving up." You've got Garcia and the House Oversight Committee, Connor, Massie, and others. Boom. You get a release. And what a difference. That's been the one of the biggest game changers. Prop 50

biggest game changers. He's got to keep on fighting back with moral, formal authority, with people power. Brett, I'll give you the final word of the episode.

But just think about Governor Nuomo's move. Governor Nuomo decided that he was not going to take what the Republicans were doing laying down and he got up there and he took a risk. Like there was no guarantee that Prop 50 was going to work. He took a big swing here. I remember all those various pundits on Capitol Hill were mocking him. This is never going to work. O, look at the polling. The polling doesn't look so good. If it's like this right now, these usually get less popular as it goes on. But Gavin Newsome hit the ground. He made the case. He brought this directly to the voters, unlike what Texas did. He sold the crap out of it, and people were all on board. And people now see Governor Nuomo as a fighter. He set the stage for these other Democrats to follow in his lead and do the same thing. And he also sent a warning shot out there to these Republicans that you want to keep playing this game, we could

keep doing this every single time. And now we're seeing how this whole process of the gerrymandering by the Republicans has backfired. The Democrats are likely to end up with a net gain of seats since the Republicans uh started this uh whatever you want to call it, this game, this competition, this this gerrymandering battle. Um and Democrats are actually going to win because the Democrats in the states are actually fighting back. uh to Ben's point and now even the Supreme Court uh within the past 24 hours or so they said that we're going to reject the Republican petition uh to try to overturn Prop 50. We're not even going to take it up. It was a uni unanimous decision in the Supreme Court.

So you could officially mark it up on the board that Governor Gavin Newsome has defeated the Republicans in this battle. And it should be a model for all Democrats and all people going against this MAGA co-opted Republican party that is trying to destroy everything we have that we have to be fighting fire with fighter. We got to be able to punch back and when we fight we win as they say,

right? And so, you know, if Trump's saying that he can fire everybody without any oversight, Democrats can do it, too. And we take control of the White House, right? They could do it, too. You know, all of these things Democrats could do. You know, okay, these are the new rules that you are all creating. Okay? You sure? You know, and they don't think through those things, you know, and you know, it's time to fight back with moral formal authority. Not because of any political party, but because we're in a fascist situation. We're not in a constitutional crisis. We're well beyond that. And it's time that we take back our country. We fight for our country.

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The discussion focuses on the detrimental impact of Donald Trump's policies on the U.S. economy, particularly highlighted by a poor jobs report; it also delves into Trump's ties to Jeffrey Epstein, revealing extensive communications that suggest deeper connections to Epstein's activities. The narrative contrasts the U.S. response to those implicated with Epstein to other countries that have…

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