🚨 SECRETS of Epstein FILES TAKE DOWN TRUMP LAWYERS!!

What this episode is about

The content discusses the repercussions of the partial release of the Epstein files, highlighting resignations among influential figures, including a prominent bank's general counsel and a former law firm chair, linked to their connections with Jeffrey Epstein. It raises concerns about the lack of accountability in the U.S. compared to other countries, questioning the moral responsibility of elites in various sectors who interacted with Epstein.

Key takeaways

• Epstein's fallout may be a litmus test: will America finally hold its elites accountable?
• Unlike the UK, US outrage over Epstein feels like a slow-burning wick; will it ignite change?
• Goldman Sachs' general counsel's downfall raises questions: when does legal advice turn into complicity?
• Luxury gifts and legal ethics clash — did Epstein's generosity blur professional boundaries for top lawyers?
• As cracks appear in the Epstein class, can America muster the moral clarity shown by other nations?

Who speaks in this episode?

• Dina Dah (Host) · 10 min speaking
• Roana (Guest) · 2 min speaking
• Brad Karp (Guest) · 1 min speaking
• Katherine Rumler (Guest) · 1 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Goldman Sachs, Laam and Watkins, Congressman Roana
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Katherine Rumler, Goldman Sachs, Laam and Watkins
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Brad S. Karp, Goldman Sachs, I Restore Aluminina face mask
4. 9:00 – 12:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Leon D. Black, Brad S. Karp
5. 12:00 – 13:42: Jeffrey Epstein, Dina Dah, Midas Touch Network

Notable quotes from "🚨 SECRETS of Epstein FILES TAKE DOWN TRUMP LAWYERS!!"

• Position. Now the Midas touch reporter Pablo caught up with Roana. Of course, Roana and Thomas Massie led the efforts for the discharge petition that ultimately resulted in the…

  about Congressman Roana · at 0:22

• 2019. Now, she was in the Obama White House council up until Obama left and she went to private practice. So, she was in private practice at Laam and Watkins at the time she…

  about Laam and Watkins · at 2:14

• Relate to the media about it in order to make him look better. In fact, according to the DOJ, the night that Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, she was one of three people that he…

  about Jeffrey Epstein · at 3:35

• Entered into, but also the fact that she was continuing to help him and receive large gifts in return. She was evidently not only the chief legal officer, not only the general…

  about Goldman Sachs · at 6:02

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• Confident and refreshed. Now, Brad Karp, the former chairman of Paul Weiss, is also in this situation. In fact, he took a look at the 2008 draft prosecution agreement and gave…

  about Brad S. Karp · at 8:49

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  about Dina Dah · at 13:10

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Jeffrey Epstein — Person · Central referenced figure · 17 mentions · first at 0:02
  The episode frames resignations and legal/ethical scrutiny around correspondence, advice, and alleged networks connected to Epstein.
• Katherine Rumler — Person · Referenced subject of resignation/ethics discussion · 2 mentions · first at 1:59
  Discussed as Goldman Sachs’ general counsel who allegedly corresponded with Epstein and received significant gifts, raising ethics and reputational concerns.
  Hers or any law firm that she worked for. But we see in the correspondence that she gave him advice. She gave him advice about how to talk about his charges, how to talk about…
• Brad S. Karp — Person · Referenced subject of resignation/firm conduct discussion · 5 mentions · first at 0:17
  Presented as former chairman of Paul Weiss, tied in the episode to Epstein-related legal review and to Leon Black/Apollo connections.
• Dina Dah — Person · Host / main speaker · 1 mention · first at 13:02
  Identifies herself at the end and narrates the segment’s claims and commentary about resignations, legal ethics, and accountability.
• Leon D. Black — Person · Referenced financier linking entities in the narrative · 4 mentions · first at 9:42
  Discussed as Apollo’s founder and as a connective figure between Brad Karp/Paul Weiss and Epstein, including mention of payments and a settlement.
  Client. But here's where things get even more interesting. Evidently, he met Jeffrey Epstein because one of his clients was Apollo Management, who at the time that was started by Leon Black.
• Congressman Roana — Person · Referenced interviewee/advocate (name unclear in transcript) · 2 mentions · first at 0:25
  Portrayed as someone Pablo interviewed and as a leader (with Thomas Massie) on a discharge petition tied to the “Epstein Transparency Act.” The transcript’s name appears inconsistent/unclear (e.g., “Roana,” “Ro Connor”).
• Congressman Thomas Massie — Person · Referenced legislator/advocate · 1 mention · first at 0:28
  Mentioned as co-leading efforts (with “Roana”) on a discharge petition that the episode claims resulted in the “Epstein Transparency Act.”
  Position. Now the Midas touch reporter Pablo caught up with Roana. Of course, Roana and Thomas Massie led the efforts for the discharge petition that ultimately resulted in the…

Companies & orgs

• Goldman Sachs — Company · Business focus · 4 mentions · first at 1:59
  Goldman Sachs is mentioned in the context of its general counsel being forced to step down due to her correspondence with Jeffrey Epstein.
• Laam and Watkins — Company · Business focus · 3 mentions · first at 2:22
  Laam and Watkins is mentioned as the law firm where Katherine Rumler was working when she corresponded with Jeffrey Epstein.
• Midas Touch Network — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at 0:22
  Midas Touch Network is mentioned as the platform hosting the podcast and promoting independent media.
  Those survivors deserve an apology. And the best kind of apology is accountability. My name is Dina Dah. If you haven't yet subscribed to the Midas Touch Network, be sure to do that.

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Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 The fallout from even the partial release of the Epstein files continues as the general counsel of perhaps the most powerful financial bank in the world is forced to step down because of her correspondence with Jeffrey Epstein. This is in addition to the former chairman of Paul Weiss, the law firm that first capitulated to Trump. Brad Karp also being forced to leave his position. Now the Midas touch reporter Pablo caught up with Roana. Of course, Roana and Thomas Massie led the efforts for the discharge petition that ultimately resulted in the Epstein Transparency Act. Pablo asked Roana what he thought about the fact that we are starting to see some force resignations around the world and what that means for figures here in the US. Take a listen.

0:50 But, you know, this is this is here's the the point. This is bringing down the British government and they bring down the British monarchy. It's bringing down countries and the elites across the country. What are we doing here in the United States to stand up to the Epstein class? I mean, we've got a commerce secretaries all over the Epstein files. Where's the outrage? Where's the outrage at the billionaires in Silicon Valley, in finance, in Hollywood, the going to Epstein's Island? We need moral accountability in the United States just like they're having in so many other countries around the world. Congressman Ro Connor absolutely correct that around the world people are being held to account much more rapidly and a much more higher level than here in the United States. We have the Sultan soul man head of an international pork company based in Dubai forced to step down. We have international countries

1:39 from the UK to Norway looking into their figures interaction with Epstein that is much less than Trump's interactions with Epstein. But at least we are starting to see some force recogn resignations, some accountability, and as they say, once they start having cracks, the whole thing can fall apart. Now, the Goldman Sachs general counsel, Katherine Rumler, she is the latest person to have to step down because of her interactions with Jeffrey Epstein. According to the files, she interacted with him between 2014 and 2019. Now, she was in the Obama White House council up until Obama left and she went to private practice. So, she was in private practice at Laam and Watkins at the time she corresponded with Jeffrey Epstein. She went to Goldman Sachs in 2020 and as we know Jeffrey Epstein was indicted in 2019 and ultimately died in jail awaiting his trial. So, her correspondence was during that time. Now, Laam and Watkins is a

2:43 very large LA based law firm. I I started practicing law in a very similar competitor, friendly competitor to Laam and Watkins, Gibson, Dun and Crutcher. We had a very strict policy on whether or not we could accept gifts. In fact, our professional ethics responsibility as lawyers have a very strict policy on when you can accept gifts. Now, she has said that she now believes Epstein to be a monster and she regrets any association with him and she says that she was he was never a formal client of hers or any law firm that she worked for. But we see in the correspondence that she gave him advice. She gave him advice about how to talk about his charges, how to talk about the fact that he has been accused of the sexual abuse or have been convicted of it and how to relate to the media about it in order to make him look better. In fact, according to the DOJ, the night that Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, she was one of

3:46 three people that he tried to reach for advice. Now, you could argue whether or not that is legal advice, but according to our professional responsibilities as a lawyer, you don't need a formal agreement in order to be have a attorney client relationship. You don't have to sign a retainer in order for our ethics and responsibilities to kick in. If the client thinks they are in an attorney client relationship because of how we have interacted with them, then an attorney client relationship should exist. So the fact that she took these kind of gifts from somebody that she was giving advice to seems to have possibly violated not only her own professional responsibilities as a lawyer, but also the Laam and Watkins firmwide guidelines for not being able to accept gifts. Because of course people sometimes give their lawyers, let's say like a holiday gift basket or something like that. What Epstein gave her was

4:51 much worse. In fact, the gifts were so large she called him Uncle Jeffrey because she was so happy with the gifts. He gave her $10,000 in gift cards to Burgdolf Gorman Goodman. He gave her an Hermes bag worth about $10,000 and other luxury clothes, etc. or evidently even a million points in airlines. You see also he gave her first class tickets. These are the kind of red flags as a lawyer you have to be very careful about whether or not this could be seen as having created an attorney client relationship or whether or not this even creates a conflict of interest because it could be perceived as having created an attorney client relationship.

5:44 This is why it is not a surprise that she was forced to step down from Goldman Sachs. Not only because of her apparent desire to help Jeffrey Epstein after the 2008 plea agreement that he entered into, but also the fact that she was continuing to help him and receive large gifts in return. She was evidently not only the chief legal officer, not only the general counsel, the very top lawyer at Goldman Sachs, perhaps one of the most powerful banks in the world, she was also on their reputational committee. So clearly she had to step down. The reason this is so important is because nobody has been held to account prior to this except for Jeffrey Epstein and Gain Maxwell. And we see in these DOJ files how many people helped support the network. Whether or not it was a literal quidd proquo in terms of actually helping the abuse, nobody is saying that that she did that. But if you're helping to prop him up and he is

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8:38 That's mistrial restore.com. Please support my show and tell them I sent you. Give your hair and skin the upgrade they deserve so you can feel confident and refreshed. Now, Brad Karp, the former chairman of Paul Weiss, is also in this situation. In fact, he took a look at the 2008 draft prosecution agreement and gave input on it. But he still claims that somehow there wasn't an attorney client relationship. I mean, the attorney client relationship again is decided based on the client. Jeffrey Epstein is no longer here, but arguably if he was, he could say that that created an attorney client relationship, which not only created an issue for Brad Karp, but Paul Weiss, who he had a responsibility to. I mean, there's a lot of lawyers there who I'm sure didn't want Epstein to be have a client or at least be able to vet it like any other client. But here's where things get even more interesting. Evidently, he met

9:37 Jeffrey Epstein because one of his clients was Apollo Management, who at the time that was started by Leon Black. And as we know, Leon Black was the one who had to settle with the US Virgin Islands, who sued him, saying that his payment to Jeffrey Epstein of over like about $160 million, which he says was for trust advice. the US Virgin Islands said that just helped Epstein's criminal scheme. He settled with the US Virgin Islands. He's also the one who testified in Congress when they investigated the 2016 election whether or not Russia interfered and testified that he was with Trump and Russia. and a strip. This Leon Block, the one who was also just mentioned in the Galain Maxwell habius corpus petition as her way to perhaps try to reveal secrets to get a clemency.

10:33 Very unclear, but she said that there was 25 secret confidential agreements that men entered into with victims. And then she also calls out less um Liam Black in that filing that Liam Black was a client of Paul Weiss and specifically Brad Karp and that's how he met Jeffrey Epstein. So he actually met Jeffrey F2 through Leon Black which Gilon Ma Max Maxwell is naming in a filing is somehow trying to say he was involved in the trafficking of women or enough that she's calling him out specifically as either a nod to Trump or a threat to him. It's a little unclear with Maxwell but he's called out and that's a circle.

11:20 And then it gets worse because Paul Weiss was the very first firm to capitulate to Trump. Now, as we know, when Trump did that executive order basically saying that law firms had to do his bidding, some law firms fought it and won because it was so clearly a violation of a law firm's constitutional rights like the free speech. But Paul Weiss led the field and was the very first one instead of trying to fight it, instead capitulated to Trump. And guess who was the lawyer, the public-f facing lawyer on that was Brad Karp. Brad Karp, whose client was Leon Black, who showed up now in these Epstein files and then was forced to step down as chairman.

12:08 This should just be the beginning. Howard Letic should be next. As we know, Howard Lutnik emails contradict his earlier statements that he met Jeffrey once, didn't do it again because he was so horrified. But instead, we find out that somehow he stopped at this island and brought not only his family, but his nanny, and that he had discussed the nanny with Jeffrey Epstein. So, it's not that it's good, but although it is good that people are starting to be held into account, it's hopefully just the beginning because Pam Bondi may not have been willing to turn around and acknowledge the failing of this government to the Epstein survivors when she was asked to do so at the hearings this week. But the rest of us believe those survivors deserve an apology. And the best kind of apology is accountability. My name is Dina Dah. If you haven't yet subscribed to the Midas Touch Network, be sure to do that.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "🚨 SECRETS of Epstein FILES TAKE DOWN TRUMP LAWYERS!!"?

Dina Dah (Host), Roana (Guest), Brad Karp (Guest), Katherine Rumler (Guest).

What is "🚨 SECRETS of Epstein FILES TAKE DOWN TRUMP LAWYERS!!" about?

The content discusses the repercussions of the partial release of the Epstein files, highlighting resignations among influential figures, including a prominent bank's general counsel and a former law firm chair, linked to their connections with Jeffrey Epstein. It raises concerns about the lack of accountability in the U.S. compared to other countries, questioning the moral responsibility of…

What is mentioned in this MeidasTouch episode?

12 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Jeffrey Epstein, Katherine Rumler, Brad S. Karp, Goldman Sachs, Dina Dah, Leon D. Black. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "🚨 SECRETS of Epstein FILES TAKE DOWN TRUMP LAWYERS!!"?

The episode runs 14 min; the transcript is about 2,129 words in 16 timestamped sections.

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