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Trump has CATASTROPHIC SUNDAY as GHISLAINE INVOKES FIFTH

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Trump has CATASTROPHIC SUNDAY as GHISLAINE INVOKES FIFTH", an episode of MeidasTouch published February 8, 2026 (22 min, about 4,135 words). It mentions 36 people, works and ideas, including Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, Fifth Amendment, Congressman Thomas Massie, Ghislain Maxwell.

What this episode is about

Donald Trump faces a tumultuous Sunday as he publicly criticizes U.S. Olympic skier Hunter Hess for his remarks on systemic issues in the country, revealing a tone of pettiness. Simultaneously, Ghislaine Maxwell is expected to invoke her Fifth Amendment rights during her upcoming deposition, complicating Trump's efforts to manage the fallout from the Epstein files.

Key takeaways

  • Trump picks fights with Olympians while the nation's winter woes pile up – icy priorities, indeed.
  • Hunter Hess embodies a new athlete ethos; competing while critiquing the country's honor is now a rich tradition.
  • Maxwell's Fifth Amendment invocation feels less about self-incrimination and more about selective amnesia on celebrity ties.
  • When Olympic dreams clash with political reality, athletes are left questioning: who's really representing America?
  • The Epstein saga resurfaces: in the theater of political intrigue, who’s playing the unwitting lead versus the shadowy puppet master?

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Fifth Amendment, Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, House Oversight Committee
  2. – 10:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Congressman Thomas Massie, Howard Lutnick
  3. – 15:00: Ground News, Donald Trump, 2020 Election, Jeffrey Epstein
  4. – 20:00: Donald Trump, China trade deal, Measles outbreak, Dr. Meett Oz
  5. – 21:59: Donald Trump, Mike Lawler, store.mitus.com

Notable quotes from "Trump has CATASTROPHIC SUNDAY as GHISLAINE INVOKES FIFTH"

  • Lunatic, attacking the United States Winter Olympics team. Here's what he just posted moments ago. US Olympic skier Hunter Hess a real loser. Says he doesn't represent his…
    about Hunter Hess · at
  • Taking place on Monday tomorrow. Dear Chairman Comr, it is my understanding that Miss Gilain Maxwell intends to invoke her fifth amendment privilege against self-inccrimination…
    about Fifth Amendment · at
  • Is that statement accurate? Two, who are the four co-conspirators of the 25 men other than Jeffrey Epstein who sexually abused minors at Epstein's Island, his New Mexico ranch…
    about Epstein Island · at
  • It's being handled here in the United States where literally the center of the cabal is here. Trump says Epstein's a great guy who likes girls on the younger side or Trump says…
    about Jeffrey Epstein · at
  • The prince lost his title for less than what we've seen Howard Lutnik lie about. Look, Howard Lutnik clearly went to the island. If we believe what's in these files, he was in…
    about Howard Lutnick · at
  • Story by right-wing media. They're still talking about the 2020 election and they're like championing that Trump's director of national intelligence helped raid the Fulton…
    about 2020 Election · at
  • That's gru n d.news/mtn and we've pinned a link to purchase your subscription below. One more time, go to ground.newsn and get 40% off the ground news vantage plan. Now, all right. Now, going back to.
    about Ground News · at
  • It doesn't make me angry, but it's unfair to my spouse. look, Donald Trump was giving to Democrats when my wife was working for Right to Work and Campaign for Liberty and Rand…
    about Donald Trump · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Donald Trump — Person · Primary referenced political figure · 16 mentions · first at
    Central subject of criticism: described as attacking an Olympian, allegedly covering up Epstein-related information, and engaging in racist/abusive posting behavior.
  • Jeffrey Epstein — Person · Referenced criminal figure central to transparency/cover-up discussion · 13 mentions · first at
    Referenced as the focal point of alleged files/records, social ties with Trump, and alleged connections to officials (e.g., Lutnick) and UK vetting controversy.
  • Congressman Thomas Massie — Person · Referenced lawmaker / interview clip subject · 4 mentions · first at
    Presented as co-lead (with Ro Khanna) on the Epstein Transparency Act; criticizes Lutnick and says Trump should apologize for racist post; mentions Trump attacking his wife.
    I just let's just be clear about what the undisputed facts are. Thomas Massie was talking about Howard Lutnik, Howard Lutnick's Donald Trump's commerce secretary, who we now know definitively lied when he said he only talked to.
  • Ghislain Maxwell — Person · Referenced witness/defendant (same individual as misspelled entry) · 3 mentions
    Discussed as invoking the Fifth Amendment at deposition; contrasted with prior meeting with Todd Blanche; tied to questions about Trump/Epstein and alleged client lists/foreign intel links.
  • Gileain Maxwell — Person · Misspelled duplicate mention of Ghislaine Maxwell (referenced witness/defendant) · 1 mention · first at
    Discussed as invoking the Fifth Amendment at a House Oversight deposition; alleged to have met with Todd Blanche previously; described as receiving preferential prison placement.
    Taking place on Monday tomorrow. Dear Chairman Comr, it is my understanding that Miss Gilain Maxwell intends to invoke her fifth amendment privilege against self-inccrimination…
  • Congressman Ro Khanna — Person · Referenced lawmaker (correct spelling; duplicate of Ro Kana) · 6 mentions
    Credited with leading the Epstein Transparency Act and authoring the letter to House Oversight about Maxwell’s Fifth Amendment invocation.
  • Kate Blanch — Person · Referenced DOJ official / Trump attorney link · 3 mentions · first at
    Described as Trump’s former criminal defense attorney, later appointed Deputy AG; said to have met with Maxwell, central to claims of coordination/silence.
    Just pause there for a second again, just to remind you, Todd Blanch was Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney in the case where Trump was found guilty of 34 felony counts. Trump then appointed his criminal defense.
  • Howard Lutnick — Person · Referenced administration official under scrutiny · 3 mentions · first at
    Described as Trump’s Commerce Secretary; accused (in commentary) of lying about extent of Epstein ties; Massie calls for resignation.
  • Hunter Hess — Person · Referenced athlete targeted by Trump · 2 mentions · first at
    US Olympic freestyle skier whose comments about representing the US prompt Trump’s attack; used as an example of Trump’s pettiness.
  • Kier Starmer — Person · Referenced foreign leader in comparative accountability segment · 2 mentions · first at
    UK Prime Minister discussed amid resignation of his chief of staff over ambassador vetting tied to Epstein; contrasted with US handling.
    States needs to go. Mandalsen needs to go. Anyone associated with Mandelen needs to go. And Prime Minister Kier Starmer is under fire right now. He still has a big majority in…
  • Morgan Mweeny — Person · Referenced UK political staffer · 2 mentions · first at
    Identified as Starmer’s chief of staff who resigned under pressure over appointing an ambassador alleged to be a friend of Epstein.
    Same time that Donald Trump and MAGA are involved in this mass, massive cover up here, Morgan Mweeny, the chief of staff to Prime Minister Kier Starmer of Britain, resigned…
  • Mike Lawler — Person · Referenced lawmaker in clip about Trump demands · 2 mentions · first at
    Depicted as rationalizing Trump allegedly withholding infrastructure funds unless projects are named after him; framed as a ‘phony centrist.’
    Life forward. And finally, you have people who try to claim that they're like centrists, like Mike Lawler, Republican Congress member Maga through and through from New York…
  • Dr. Meett Oz — Person · Referenced media/political figure in misinformation critique · 1 mention · first at
    Shown in a clip claiming the administration encouraged measles vaccines; used as an example of alleged propagandistic lying.
    His propagandists out there who all they do is lie through their teeth over and over again. So this morning we saw Dr.
  • Scott Bassant — Person · Referenced administration official in trade-document critique · 1 mention · first at
    Shown in a clip saying there’s no written China trade deal while asserting China bought soybeans; used to argue the administration provides no documentation.
    That reflects that there is a trade deal? Where are these deals? And he's No, there's nothing, but we promise you China's bought the soybeans. Really? Because our farmers are still suffering a ton right now. so.
  • Peter Mandelen — Person · Referenced ambassador appointee in UK controversy · 2 mentions · first at
    Described as a friend of Epstein appointed as ambassador to the US; his appointment triggers outrage and a resignation.
    To Prime Minister Kier Starmer of Britain, resigned under pressure over his role in appointing Peter Mandelen, a friend of Jeffrey Epstein, as ambassador to the United States.…
  • Susie Wilds — Person · Referenced expert · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as someone who could advise Trump on his social media posts.
    Man's spouse or getting into racist tropes, I think it's somebody at the White House, maybe Susie Wilds needs to go to the president and just ask him for his phone and maybe ask him just to show him the tweet before he sends it out.
  • Dana Bash — Person · Referenced expert · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the interviewer questioning Dr. Oz about the measles outbreak.
    Oz and he was making his rounds and he was on CNN with Dana Bash and she asked him about the massive measles outbreak that's taking place right now and Dr. Oz said what are you talking about? We've encouraged vaccines when it.
  • Manu Raju — Person · Referenced expert · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the interviewer questioning Senator Cassidy.
    Committee. And you know there's blood on this guy's hands, but I just want you to watch as when Cassidy is asked by Manu Raju of CNN, Do you regret vote? Do you regret any of…

Companies & orgs

  • House Oversight Committee — Company · Setting · 3 mentions · first at
    The committee conducting Ghislaine Maxwell's deposition, central to the episode's narrative.
    Fought to get the Epstein files released. and here's what he had to write. dear Chairman Comr, he's sending this to the chairman of the House Oversight Committee. That's where…
  • Midas Touch Network — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at
    The network producing the podcast, mentioned as the source of exclusive information.
    The House Oversight Committee are doing in trying to cover this up. Let me read for you the letter that the Midas Touch Network exclusively broke moments ago.
  • Department of Justice — Company · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in the context of Todd Blanche's appointment and Maxwell's dealings.
    Found guilty of 34 felony counts. Trump then appointed his criminal defense attorney to be the number two at the Department of Justice, the deputy AG.
  • Supreme Court — Company · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in relation to Maxwell's appeal and legal strategy.
    The House Oversight Committee after delaying that testimony saying that she had to wait for the United States Supreme Court to make a ruling on her appeal. Otherwise, she would…

Products & tech

  • store.mitus.com — Product · Owned merchandise storefront CTA · 1 mention · first at
    End-of-episode promotion for Midas Touch Network merchandise (sticker packs, shirts, hats, sweatshirts) with a direct purchase URL.
    Out the latest Pro Democracy sticker packs t-shirts hats sweatshirts and more. All at store.mitus.com.

Concepts & topics

  • Fifth Amendment — Concept · Key argument · 6 mentions · first at
    Central to the discussion about Ghislaine Maxwell's deposition and her refusal to answer questions.
  • Epstein Transparency Act — Concept · Core topic · 2 mentions · first at
    Legislation aimed at releasing files related to Jeffrey Epstein's case, discussed as a means to uncover truth.
    This is from Democratic Congress member Ro Khan. Of course, he's the Congress member who is behind the Epstein transparency act. He and Thomas Massie fought to get the Epstein files released. and here's what he had.

Places & events

  • Epstein Island — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
    Central to the allegations and discussions about Epstein's activities.
  • United States Winter Olympics team — Event · Key argument · 1 mention · first at
    Central to Trump's attacks and the episode's critique of his behavior.
    Just posted moments ago. US Olympic skier Hunter Hess a real loser. Says he doesn't represent his country in the current Winter Olympics. If that's the case, he shouldn't have tried out for the team and it's too bad he's on it.
  • 2020 Election — Event · Key argument · 3 mentions · first at
    Discussed in the context of right-wing media's focus and Trump's grievances.
  • Olympics — Event · Key argument · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in the context of Trump's attacks on the US team.
    Morning. He's ranting and raving like a lunatic, attacking the United States Winter Olympics team. Here's what he just posted moments ago. US Olympic skier Hunter Hess a real…
  • Measles outbreak — Event · Key argument · 2 mentions · first at
    Discussed in the context of public health and misinformation.
    Clip. that you go ask you about a record surge in measles in the United States. South Carolina, for example, is currently reporting 800 cases. It's the worst outbreak since…
  • China trade deal — Event · Key argument · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as part of the discussion on Trump's claims and lack of documentation.
    That reflects that there is a trade deal? Where are these deals? And he's No, there's nothing, but we promise you China's bought the soybeans. Really? Because our farmers are still suffering a ton right now. so.
  • Tallahassee maximum security facility — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the facility where Ghislaine Maxwell was initially held.
    Security facility in Texas where she's technically not allowed to even be there because she's a convicted child sex trafficker who are not allowed to be in minimum security…
  • Camp Bryant minimum security facility — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the facility where Ghislaine Maxwell was moved to.
    Rotting because she's a convicted child sex trafficker. and they moved her to basically clubfed and give her VIP treatment at this Camp Bryant minimum security facility in…
  • New Mexico ranch — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as one of Epstein's properties where abuse allegedly occurred.
    The four co-conspirators of the 25 men other than Jeffrey Epstein who sexually abused minors at Epstein's Island, his New Mexico ranch, or his New York residence, and why do…
  • New York residence — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as one of Epstein's properties where abuse allegedly occurred.
    The four co-conspirators of the 25 men other than Jeffrey Epstein who sexually abused minors at Epstein's Island, his New Mexico ranch, or his New York residence, and why do…

Sponsors

  • Ground News — Product · Sponsor (subscription news-bias aggregation service) · 4 mentions · first at
    Promoted as the show’s go-to news source; includes explicit CTA and discount to subscribe via a custom URL.

Full transcript with timestamps

Donald Trump is having a terrible Sunday morning. He's ranting and raving like a lunatic, attacking the United States Winter Olympics team. Here's what he just posted moments ago. US Olympic skier Hunter Hess a real loser. Says he doesn't represent his country in the current Winter Olympics. If that's the case, he shouldn't have tried out for the team and it's too bad he's on it. Very hard to root for someone like this. Make America great again. So, as Hunter Hess is out there competing, the president of the United States is attacking him. How petty. How Trumpian.

Just so you can see what Hunter Hess said. He's a freestyle skier. Here was the statement that he made. And he was referring to ICE and Border Patrol, Gustapo killing people in this country, the terrorizing of the migrant community, and just the attacks on the international community by the United States. Watch what he had to say here. Let's play this clip. It brings up mixed emotions to represent the US right now. I think um it's a little hard. Um there's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of and I think a lot of people aren't. If it aligns with my moral values, um I feel like I'm representing it. Uh just cuz I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the US. Um so yeah, I just kind of want to do it for my friends and my family and the people that support me getting here.

Now, Donald Trump is also having a awful Sunday morning as his cover up of the Epstein files is backfiring in his face. Um, we're now learning that Guileain Maxwell is indeed going to be taking the fifth amendment to each and every question during her deposition tomorrow. Gileain Maxwell is set to be deposed by the House Oversight Committee after delaying that testimony uh saying that she had to wait for the United States Supreme Court to make a ruling on her appeal. Otherwise, she would have to invoke the Fifth Amendment against self-inccrimination because she thought the Supreme Court was going to help her get off. The Supreme Court ruled against her many months ago, but she still intends to invoke the Fifth Amendment against self-inccrimination because let's just face it, we believe that that was the deal that she made with the Trump regime and Todd Blanch when she spoke with Blanch several months back.

And she was willing to speak with Blanch in order to say things that Donald Trump wanted her to say in order for her to move from the Tallahassee maximum security facility where she should be rotting because she's a convicted child sex trafficker. and they moved her to basically clubfed and give her VIP treatment at this Camp Bryant minimum security facility in Texas where she's technically not allowed to even be there because she's a convicted child sex trafficker who are not allowed to be in minimum security facilities. But Democratic Congress member Ro Kana is out with a letter this morning exposing what Trump and MAGA and James Comr from the House Oversight Committee are doing in trying to cover this up. Let me read for you the letter that the Midas Touch Network exclusively broke moments ago.

This is from Democratic Congress member Ro Khan. Of course, he's the Congress member who is behind the Epstein transparency act. He and Thomas Massie fought to get the Epstein files released. Um and uh here's what he had to write. Uh dear Chairman Comr, he's sending this to the chairman of the House Oversight Committee. That's where this deposition of Gilain is going to be taking place on Monday tomorrow. Dear Chairman Comr, it is my understanding that Miss Gilain Maxwell intends to invoke her fifth amendment privilege against self-inccrimination and declined to answer all substantive substantive questions at her upcoming deposition before the House Oversight Committee.

This position appears inconsistent with Miss Maxwell's prior conduct as she did not invoke the Fifth Amendment when she previously met with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch to discuss substantially similar subject matter. Just pause there for a second again, just to remind you, Todd Blanch was Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney in the case where Trump was found guilty of 34 felony counts. Trump then appointed his criminal defense attorney to be the number two at the Department of Justice, the deputy AG.

And then Trump sent Blanch to meet with Gain Maxwell so that she could say nice things about Trump. We know that she's lied about everything because we've seen what's in the Epstein files. and now she's refusing to testify before Congress on the same or similar subject matter. Um, Roana goes on to say, "I understand that Miss Maxwell intends to assert this privilege on a blanket basis by reading a prepared statement at the outset of the deposition and refusing to permit members to question her individually through counsel rather than invoking the privilege on a questionbyquest basis. Accordingly, for the sake of clarity, I am submitting this letter uh the questions I intend to ask at Miss Maxwell's deposition and request confirmation from the chair as to whether she intends to invoke the fifth amendment in response to the following questions. So, here's what Gilain Maxwell refuses to answer. She's

invoking her fifth amendment rights as to these questions. On December 17, 2025, you filed the habius corpus petition stating that four named co-conspirators and 25 men who entered into secret settlements were not indicted as part of the investigation. Is that statement accurate? Two, who are the four co-conspirators of the 25 men other than Jeffrey Epstein who sexually abused minors at Epstein's Island, his New Mexico ranch, or his New York residence, and why do you believe they were not indicted? Three, what information, evidence, or personal knowledge do you have regarding why these individuals were not charged or prosecuted by federal authorities? Four, it is well documented that you, President Donald Trump, and Mr. Epste had a social relationship, and there are several photographs of you together. Did you or Mr. Epstein ever arrange, facilitate, or provide access to underage girls to President Trump? Five.

After President Trump publicly stated that he would look at a possible pardon for you, did you or anyone acting on your behalf have any discussions with him or his representatives about a pardon or reduce sentence in exchange for your silence? Six, what client lists or records did you or Mr. Epstein maintain that document the identities of clients or associates? Seven, please identify any foreign governments or intelligence services, including those associated with Russia and Israel that Mr. Epstein shared information with or otherwise acted on behalf of and describe the nature and purpose of any such relationships. To avoid any such doubt about the scope of Miss Maxwell's Fifth Amendment claim, please confirm that Miss Maxwell intends to invoke the Fifth Amendment on these questions.

Further, I request this document be moved into the official record at the start of Miss Maxwell's deposition signed Ro Conor, member of Congress. So, she will invoke the fifth on all of those questions and not answer those questions. Why would she not answer those questions? You should be able to answer that fairly easily. Now, at the same time that Donald Trump and MAGA are involved in this mass, massive cover up here, Morgan Mweeny, the chief of staff to Prime Minister Kier Starmer of Britain, resigned under pressure over his role in appointing Peter Mandelen, a friend of Jeffrey Epstein, uh, as ambassador to the United States. Um Morgan Mweeny uh resigned after there was all this outrage in the UK that anybody who's associated with uh with Epstein uh through uh the uh former ambassador Peter Mandelen to the United States needs to go. Mandalsen needs to go. Anyone associated with Mandelen

needs to go. And Prime Minister Kier Starmer is under fire right now. He still has a big majority in uh parliament and the next elections aren't set to take place really until 2029. But there's a lot of pressure on Kier Starmer now as well. And he's admitted that things went wrong in the vetting of the ambassador to the United States who knew Epstein. Just think about how they're handling it in the UK versus how it's being handled here in the United States where literally the center of the cabal is here. I mean, Trump says Epstein's a great guy who likes girls on the younger side or Trump says he inspects girls naked at his beauty pageantss because when you own beauty pageantss, you get to inspect girls non-consensually. Trump said, I mean, he's describing sexual assault. I mean, Trump says he grabs women by their vaginas because when you're rich, you get away with it. These are statements

that have been made from Trump has been found liable in federal court for sexual assault. Let me just repeat that again. Trump is found liable by a federal jury in a civil case for sexual assault. And when Donald Trump had the opportunity to testify in that case, he ran away and was in like Scotland talking about his golf courses and did not show up to testify. I just let's just be clear about what the undisputed facts are. Thomas Massie was talking about Howard Lutnik, Howard Lutnick's Donald Trump's commerce secretary, who we now know definitively lied when he said he only talked to Jeffrey Epstein once in 2005 and was so gross after he purchased Epstein's townhouse in 2005. And they were neighbors cuz Epste owned the adjacent townhouse as well. And Howard Lutnik, Trump's commerce secretary, said, "I've never talked to Epstein after this incident. After I I went to his house once. He was a gross guy. I never talked

to him again. Turns out they were like business associates on a deal that he that Lutnik brought his kids to the island. There was like emails of like Lutnik saying, "I have kids." Like 12, nine, nine. Let's bring them to the island. Um and then there was confir seems to be emails confirming that he was at the island. Howard Lutnik needs to go. This is such a rotten evil regime though where these people who are engaged in the sickest and sickest acts imaginable, not only do they not go, they get rewarded for it. This is sick stuff. I want you to watch this morning with Thomas Massie, the other co-author, the other co-lead on the Epstein Transparency Act. Here's what he had to say about Massie. Play this clip.

Uh Trump's commerce secretary, Howard Lutnik, said that he and his wife decided around 2005 to cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein. But the latest release shows that there was some correspondence after that, even after Epstein pleaded guilty to sex crimes in 2008. What questions do you have about Letic's ties to Epstein and should he come before Congress and testify?

No, he should just resign. I mean, there three people in Great Britain that have resigned in politics. The ambassador from Great Britain to the United States. The prince lost his title for for less than what we've seen Howard Lutnik lie about. Look, Howard Lutnik clearly went to the island. If we believe what's in these files, he was in business with Jeffrey Epstein. And this was many years after Jeffrey Epstein was convicted, you know, uh, lightly sentenced, but was convicted for sexual crimes. So, he's got a lot to answer for, but really he should make life easier on the president, frankly, and just resign. If this were Great Britain, he'd already be gone.

And and just for the record, the Commerce Department says that he had limited interactions with Mr. Epstein in the presence of his wife, has never been accused of wrongdoing. Uh, I do want to ask you about Trump cuz he's

I just think it's important too though that we're getting accurate information from the media. And fortunately with the Epstein files, it's broken through and people understand what's happening here. But I want to give you two examples to show you how I think right-wing media is brainwashing kind of Trump and MAGA supporters into not like getting the truth. So take a look at just these two stories. Story number one, Trump says Georgia FBI raid will determine true winner of state in 2020. This is a big story by right-wing media. They're still talking about the 2020 election and they're like championing that Trump's director of national intelligence helped raid the Fulton County election office from 2020. They want to redo the 2020 election. That's what's going on in MAGA world right here. what's going on and what's being discussed right here in so-called left-wing media or the kind of center media. Here's what's being said.

Here's an article. Voters are worried about the cost of housing, but Donald Trump wants home prices to keep climbing. And this is an article that just came out and basically these are articles that just came out and it's citing what Donald Trump said that he doesn't want to lower housing prices. He wants to make sure housing prices go up and are higher so that rich people can make more money on the on the value of their houses and not bring the housing prices down. 0% coverage by right-wing media. They're focused on the 2020 election and Donald Trump's grievances.

But when it comes to housing prices and lowering housing prices, the right-wing media doesn't want to cover it at all. I just think it's important that we have an accurate media diet during this moment. I have to stay up to date on the news all the time in order to do this podcast. And our biggest go-to news source is Ground News. You guys, this is a subscriber funded app and news site. And every day they pull in thousands of articles from around the world and they organize them by story and then they show you what the right is reporting, what the center is reporting, what the left is reporting. It's a gamecher because as active, responsible citizens, we must get our news from reliable sources. In Trump's America, being informed about facts and media bias is the most important thing that you can do. But that's why we love ground news.

For every article, they also tell you, did a media conglomerate put this news out or was it independent media? And they also list the degree of factuality, which is interesting as there are a lot of news sources from media conglomerates that are mixed or low factuality. Independent media seems to have a higher factuality, but you get all of that with your ground news vantage subscription. I especially like their blind spot feed, which highlights stories that are disproportionately covered by one side of the political spectrum, like this story that I just shared to you about the housing prices as well as the right-wing stories about who is the true winner of the 2020 election. So, join us by going to ground.news/mtn to get 40% off the ground news vantage plan that I use every morning. They are subscriberfunded and so by subscribing you're not only getting a tool we all need today, you're also supporting our

work here at the Midas Touch Network on this YouTube channel. So go to ground news ground.news/mtn. That's gru n d.news/mtn and we've pinned a link to purchase your subscription below. One more time, go to ground.newsn and get 40% off the ground news vantage plan. Now, all right. Now, going back to Thomas Massie uh for a moment. Thomas Massie was asked about Donald Trump's posts about uh whether when Donald Trump was posting photos of former President Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama as as apes um and putting their face photoshopping their their face on apes and attacking Massiey's wife.

Here's what Massie had to say as well. Minute. But first, I want to get your reaction to the news about how the president posted then deleted this racist video depicting the Obama as apes. He has refused to apologize. Do you think he should apologize to the Obamas? He should absolutely apologize. He's gone too far. I mean, he's attacked my wife recently online, and I do think there are limits. If for a while it's kind of funny, but once you pass certain certain guard rails like attacking a man's spouse or getting into racist tropes, I think it's somebody at the White House, maybe Susie Wilds needs to go to the president and just ask him for his phone and maybe ask him just to show him the tweet before he sends it out.

Yeah. I just I just to follow up on your wife because it is alarming. He's multiple times he has gone after her in social media posts. I mean, how angry does that make you? It doesn't make me angry, but it's unfair to to my spouse. I mean, look, Donald Trump was giving to Democrats when my wife was working for Right to Work and Campaign for Liberty and Rand Paul, in fact, worked in Rand Paul's office over a decade ago, back when Donald Trump was still a Democrat. So, I I think it's wrong. Um, fortunately, everything he says about her is untrue, but it's beyond the pale. And I and people recoil when he goes to those racist tropes or when he attacks spouses. It's just uncalled for.

Now again, one of the reasons it's important to have an accurate media diet as well is that, you know, Trump sends his propagandists out there who all they do is lie through their teeth over and over again. So this morning we saw Dr. Oz and he was uh making his rounds uh and he was on CNN with Dana Bash and she asked him about the massive measles outbreak that's taking place right now and Dr. Oz said what are you talking about? We've encouraged vaccines when it comes to measles. All we've been doing is encouraging vaccines here. So he's saying that he and RFK Jr. have been encouraging vaccines when we all know the exact opposite is true. But this is what these people do. They lie about literally everything. Here, play this clip. that you go ask you about a record surge in measles uh in the United States. South Carolina, for example, is currently reporting 800 cases. It's the worst outbreak since measles was

declared eradicated uh more than three decades ago. Is this a consequence of the administration undermining support or advocacy for measles and other vaccines?

I don't believe so. We've advocated for measles vaccines all along. Uh Secretary Kennedy's been on in the at the very front of this movement. No, he is when when when the first outbreak happened in Texas, he said get your vaccines uh for measles because that's an example of of an ailment that you should get vaccinated against.

And you had Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant this morning he's asked so is there any like paperwork behind any of these deals that Donald Trump claims exist? Like you say that there's a trade deal with China. Is there a document that reflects that there is a trade deal? Where are these deals? And he's like, "No, there's nothing, but we promise you China's bought the soybeans." Really? Because our farmers are still suffering a ton right now. Uh, so expla explain that to me. Show me the document. The way I show the audience the clips and the documents bestin show me the document. It should be very simple. Oh, wait. No documents exist.

You just have your madeup data here. Play this clip right here. on China, our number one adversary. Do you have any estimate for us as far as when we are going to see that China trade deal in writing?

Uh, no. But I I can tell you that the Chinese have lived up to their their end of the bargain. They've completed their soybean purchases and I was on the call with President Trump, party chair she and again ve very important the relationship between the two leaders and it's my belief that President Trump is the only world leader uh who she respects and that relationship between the two of them allows for the relationship to be you know respectful but we're we're going to be great competitors with them. We don't we don't want to uh disengage, but we do need to derisk.

I'll show you this clip as here. Then then you have uh Republican senator from Louisiana uh Senator Cassidy as Donald Trump has now endorsed Cassid's uh opponent in the primary. You know, Cassidy is the reason that we have RFK Jr. because he chairs like the health committee in the Senate and he's the one who approved RFK Jr. to get through the committee. And you know there's blood on this guy's hands, but I just want you to watch as when Cassidy is asked by Manu Raju of CNN, "Do you regret vote? Do you regret any of like do you regret what you're doing?" And then Cassid's like, "You live your life forward, brother.

You live your life forward, brother." The hell is he even talking about here? Play this clip.

I can go down the list of things that I've done for my state and that's what people are going to vote on.

So he's clearly upset at your vote to You're ask You're asking me the president's motivations. I can't comment on that. Frankly, I don't think you can either.

No, no, but your vote. Do you regret that vote to convict him? My my point is is that and you do a great job with this ascribing to others their motivations and and I just I just don't think that's fair.

I'm asking you your vote. Do you regret your vote to to convict him? So, I'm commonly asked by reporters, how do I feel and how do I regret? And all I can say, brother, is uh you live your life forward. And finally, you have people who try to claim that they're like centrists, like Mike Lawler, uh, Republican Congress member Maga through and through from New York 17th Congressional District in the Rockland County area there. and he's asked, "So, does it make sense to you that Donald Trump is withholding critical infrastructure funds in New York and elsewhere? Until the infrastructure projects get named after him, or unless you name Penn Station after Donald Trump, or unless you name Dulles Airport, that's the only way Donald Trump will release funds. Otherwise, he's going to force people to suffer uh unless you give him unless you name things after him." Like, does that make sense to you? Does it make sense to you

that Donald Trump is suing the government for $10 billion and he's going to steal $10 billion of our taxpayer funds for himself? Mike Lawler, this makes sense to you? And Lawler's like, "Oh, that's just the way government is. That's why all these Republicans are just so such phony people." Here, play this clip.

This is not new. Renaming uh I know, but if it's not a new concept, but but if I can say,

let me just finish, John. Okay. But I mean, he he he's holding the money hostage for having the these things named after him. I mean, this is not like part of a, you know, let's honor somebody. He wants it named after himself, and he's saying he he'll unfreeze the the money if if they'll do it.

John, at at the end of the day, to me, I I really could care less what the name of a building is, of a critical infrastructure project is. I care that it gets done. Uh, and ultimately in my from my vantage point, you know, work it out. These guys have been in in uh, no need.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Trump has CATASTROPHIC SUNDAY as GHISLAINE INVOKES FIFTH"?

Ro Khanna (Guest), Thomas Massie (Guest).

What is "Trump has CATASTROPHIC SUNDAY as GHISLAINE INVOKES FIFTH" about?

Donald Trump faces a tumultuous Sunday as he publicly criticizes U.S. Olympic skier Hunter Hess for his remarks on systemic issues in the country, revealing a tone of pettiness. Simultaneously, Ghislaine Maxwell is expected to invoke her Fifth Amendment rights during her upcoming deposition, complicating Trump's efforts to manage the fallout from the Epstein files.

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36 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, Fifth Amendment, Congressman Thomas Massie, Ghislain Maxwell, Gileain Maxwell. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Trump has CATASTROPHIC SUNDAY as GHISLAINE INVOKES FIFTH"?

The episode runs 22 min; the transcript is about 4,135 words in 40 timestamped sections.

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