Episode 711: Dialing the Dead- A Seance with Sam & Colby

What this episode is about

In this fun and lively discussion, hosts Elena and Ash welcome YouTube stars Sam and Colby to explore exciting spooky themes as they gear up for Halloween. The conversation includes playful banter about seasonal activities, like apple picking, and the group's unique take on embracing October before the month officially begins, dubbed "Proctober."

Key takeaways

• September is the awkward cousin of the seasons—everyone's just waiting for October's party to start.
• Apple picking: a rite of passage in New England, or just an excuse to Instagram nature?
• LA's Halloween scene: A month-long masquerade where even the socially reclusive emerge to celebrate.
• Homemade costumes are the ultimate parental power move—crafting nostalgia one stitch at a time.
• October is the Super Bowl of Halloween enthusiasts—let the spooky season planning begin!

Who speaks in this episode?

• Elena (Host) · 34 min speaking
• Ash (Host) · 28 min speaking
• Sam (Guest) · 23 min speaking
• Colby (Guest) · 28 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Halloween, Longhorn Steakhouse, Secret Service Sam, Colobby
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Secret Service Sam, Halloween, Hell House LLC, Lizzie Borden
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Christianity, Scissors
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Lizzie Borden, Paris Catacombs, USS Salem, Two Girls, One Ghost
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Ectoplasm, Paris Catacombs, The Descent
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Ectoplasm
7. 1:00:00 – 1:10:00: Adolf Ash
8. 1:20:00 – 1:30:00: Halloween
9. 1:40:00 – 1:50:00: Halloween, Two Girls, One Ghost
10. 1:50:00 – 1:53:04: Halloween

Notable quotes from "Episode 711: Dialing the Dead- A Seance with Sam & Colby"

• We have special guests Sam and Colby from You might know them from YouTube.

  about Colobby · at 0:23

• We do pumpkin patches and we do an annual Halloween party.

  about Halloween · at 2:50

• So going back, you purchased an elementary school in Iowa. Ferrar Iowa. And you lived in it for like a week.

  about Ferrar, Iowa · at 10:52

• It's just so heavy when you walk in there like immediately.

  about Lizzie Borden · at 15:40

• And like I've been watching your channel and like you have to tell Sam that something's following him. see it. Like I saw it in the store and like it was like to our faces and we were like all right. Like thanks for the.

  about Secret Service Sam · at 16:49

• But these kind of things like even like getting touched by something I think when we went to the USS Salem something like blew in my ear.

  about USS Salem · at 33:09

• It's 200 miles of the largest graveyard in the world. 6 million dead bodies buried underneath Paris. And it's just miles and miles of a labyrinth of different like caves systems and everything like that. And there's no.

  about Paris Catacombs · at 38:45

• He goes, If you don't tell anybody, I have ectoplasm.

  about Ectoplasm · at 51:49

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Secret Service Sam — Person · Main guest (YouTube creator / paranormal investiga · 3 mentions · first at 0:36
  One half of the guest duo; discusses their YouTube origin, ghost hunting practices, haunted properties, and scary experiences.
• Colobby — Person · Main guest (YouTube creator / paranormal investiga · 1 mention · first at 0:04
  Introduced as part of the guest duo; discusses their content history, haunted investigations, and projects like escape rooms and a haunted venue.
• Adolf Ash — Person · Co-host · 2 mentions · first at 0:02
  Co-hosts the episode, reacts to stories, and participates in the discussion and games.

Companies & orgs

• Hot Topic — Company · Brand partnership reference · 1 mention · first at 7:55
  Cited as the reason the guests first visited the Escape Hotel, which later led to their escape room project via manager/management connections.
  So we had been there in the past. We actually got invited by Hot Topic to do a photo shoot there.
• Longhorn Steakhouse — Company · Anecdotal reference · 2 mentions · first at 2:08
  Used as a light, comedic aside about the guests experiencing New England/host hangouts and first-time experiences.
  Yeah. you went to a Longhorn for the first time.

Concepts & topics

• Halloween — Concept · Core seasonal theme · 11 mentions · first at 2:50
  Frames the episode’s vibe and activities (costumes, parties, haunted October content) and motivates the guests’ October-focused work.
• Ectoplasm — Concept · Core topic (historical séance fraud technique) · 10 mentions · first at 46:05
  Discussed as a notorious early-1900s mediumship claim and debunked scam method; also tied to a guest anecdote about a jar of “ectoplasm.”
• Christianity — Concept · Personal background context · 2 mentions · first at 26:27
  A guest recounts a childhood period of intense Christian involvement coinciding with a frightening “breathing in ear” experience.
  Super young. I think I was in sixth grade. So, what 11, 12, something like that. And I was really getting into like Christianity for like the first time in my life. And I was…
• Scissors — Concept · Paranormal story element · 2 mentions · first at 29:49
  Appears in a disturbing account where children reported “people with scissors” trying to cut their sheets, used to discuss boundaries with spirits.
  Out and she was People came in here with scissors and we're trying to cut our sheets.
• Proctober — Concept · Running joke / episode framing · 1 mention · first at 1:12
  A humorous renaming of September/pre-October that sets the tone for “haunted October” content and seasonal excitement.
  Oh, I'm calling it Proctober. So, we were saying Proctober. So, we're saying Goody Proctober.
• Vine — Concept · Career origin reference · 1 mention · first at 6:19
  Explains the guests’ early content roots (6-second comedy/pranks) before transitioning to YouTube and haunted exploration.
  So, at first we were starting on Vine.

Places & events

• Paris Catacombs — Place · Major referenced investigation location · 3 mentions · first at 38:40
  Described as one of the most terrifying and physically dangerous investigations (labyrinth, illegality, gangs, cataphiles, EVPs with screams).
• Lizzie Borden — Place · Referenced haunted location / investigation site · 2 mentions · first at 15:27
  A major investigation site discussed for its heavy/dark feeling and a reported disembodied woman’s voice during a session with another podcast.
• Ferrar, Iowa — Place · Owned haunted property location · 1 mention · first at 10:54
  Location of the elementary school the guests bought to prevent demolition and open for investigations; described as having multiple spirits and a dark boiler-room area.
• USS Salem — Place · Investigation site / catalyst · 2 mentions · first at 15:15
  A prior group investigation that increased the hosts’ interest in ghost hunting; includes a reported experience of something blowing in someone’s ear.
• Escape Hotel — Place · Business venue / project site · 1 mention · first at 8:00
  The venue on Hollywood Boulevard where the guests’ escape room is located; described as a creepy ambient space with stage/bar.
  It's at the a venue or like a spot called the Escape Hotel. And so it's like a just a giant like Yeah. venue. It has like a stage and everything. There's people that perform. It's like a bar on.

Media & podcasts

• Two Girls, One Ghost — Media · Referenced collaborator podcast · 2 mentions · first at 35:22
  Mentioned because Karen and Sabrina joined the hosts at the Lizzie Borden location when a woman’s voice was heard upstairs.
  Game in a second, but when we went to Lizzie Bordon, we were all sitting, we were with Karen and Sabrina from Two Girls, One Ghost, and we were sitting in the kitchen or like the dining room. That's where we were.
• Hell House LLC — Media · Referenced film recommendation · 2 mentions · first at 14:39
  Used as a comparison point for staying a week in a haunted location; recommended viewing for the guests.
  Oh, that's so cool though. It reminds me of like I don't know if you guys have seen Hell House LLC.
• Harry Potter — Media · Pop-culture analogy · 1 mention · first at 13:41
  Referenced to describe a visual effect resembling the Marauder’s Map (tracking footsteps), used to explain security-cam evidence at the haunted school.
  Caught some crazy stuff. Like we've seen full-on shadow figures. We've seen like footsteps, almost like I you guys seen Harry Potter like that map that sees people like walk.…
• The Descent — Media · Pop-culture analogy · 1 mention · first at 43:26
  Referenced to convey the claustrophobic danger of spelunking/cave-like conditions in the Paris Catacombs.
  The Descent. Have you ever seen that?

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Hey weirdos. I'm Elena. I'm Ash. I'm Sam. And I'm Colobby. And this is a very special Morbid.

0:21 Yeah, it is. Let's go. We have special guests Sam and Colby from You might know them from YouTube. Maybe

0:28 unless you're old like me. When I found their video for the first time, I was like, "Guys, you have to watch this like YouTube channel." Thank you so much.

0:36 So funny. Their names are Sam and Kobe. And our listeners were like, "Yeah, Elena, they've been around for like a 100,000 years.

0:43 Million zillion followers." And I was like "Oh well, thank you for having us. Good to be back.

0:48 Thank you for being here. Good to have you." And our real podcast, not that bank vault that we were in

0:53 that we were all sweating in. I was last time. This is a beautiful studio. Thank you. We've really, you know, we've added to it. We made it a little more plush and cozy.

1:02 Got the spooky vibes for some haunted October. Hell yeah. Stories. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. What were we calling it? Cuz it's pre-occtober now.

1:12 Oh, I'm calling it Proctober. So, we were saying Proctober. So, we're saying Goody Proctober.

1:16 Yeah. No one needs September. It's Proctober. We've ended it that now. Yeah. We know what we're doing around here.

1:22 It's no longer September. It's goodie eat for October. Yep. That's the end. The TM.

1:26 Don't question it. No one really likes September. It's just all about October. Yeah, cuz everybody's just waiting for October. Exactly. You're like, have the leaves changed yet? Like, come on. Like, come on, let's pick some apples. Let's go.

1:37 Let's get to it. Yeah. Are you an apple picker? I love picking apples. Really? Wait, I love that that's like a classific like, are you an apple picker?

1:45 Have you guys gone apple picking? Never. Shut the [ __ ] up. You're missing. Why did we not take you apple picking? Okay, we're adding that to the itinerary next time we hang out.

1:55 Okay, let's do it. We have to never picked an apple. That's like a New England thing we take for granted, I think.

2:01 Yeah. I was going to say driving out here in New England, I was like, this is a whole different world. Like, you are in the forest. Like, it's crazy.

2:08 Yeah. I mean, you went to a Longhorn for the first time. We did. And we collectively got that Longhorn.

2:15 We were all in that Longhorn. What? Rephrase that. Oh, we ate that Longhorn steakhouse.

2:27 To clarify, it's a steak place. Yeah. Restaurant. It's very cowboy themed. It was It was a wild ride. It really was.

2:37 But yeah, we need to take you apple picking. It's an experience. You get your apple cider donuts.

2:42 Oh, and this is just getting me so excited for like all the holidays. Pumpkin patches.

2:47 Hell yeah. Okay. So, you do do pumpkin patches. We do pumpkin patches and we do an annual Halloween party.

2:54 So stoked. Every single year. You guys are invited. 10 years. Oh, thank you. You guys want to come? We will fly for it.

2:59 Fly out. Go for a razor. Iconic. I'm LA in like October is insane. There's like 100 costume parties like all the people go all out. I've never seen anything like it.

3:10 It's the only like social time of the year for LA for some reason. It's like everybody hides in their home like all year and then Halloween happens and like all of October. It's a party after party

3:19 and you can like hide in a costume. We prep our costumes months in advance. We already have set up. We have at least five. It's like crazy fun. So is it just like the one party or do you do like a ton of dressing up? I mean, there's a lot of other parties, but we do our annual Halloween party as like one big event at the end of October, which is a celebration of our end of like season because for us, October is like our Super Bowl.

3:45 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Honestly, perfect sense. Yeah. Yeah. I would assume too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know. October now that I'm a mom has become like cuz I'm obsessed with making my kids costumes from scratch. No matter what they are,

3:58 I will not buy a costume. She makes sick costumes. sew them on everything. Yeah,

4:04 I like learned how to sew for that. What have you made before? Like what's your favorite one?

4:08 So, I made when they were little, one of my twins wanted to be the moon and I was like cutest thing ever. We'll show you pictures after.

4:16 Yeah. She was like, I want to be the moon. And I think she was like two or three and I was like, all right, how do I make this so it's not just like the moon?

4:23 And it was I like made like a plushy moon that her face fit into. So, she was like the crescent moon and then there was a bunch of like ribbons coming down from it. It was

4:32 That's really cool. Very proud of that one. What was your other What was the other

4:36 we've done? Oh, she was an owl. An owl. Yeah, she was an owl. That was a cute one.

4:41 We're doing K-pop demon hunters this year though. Huge idea. I had to make a roomie costume. So, now I'm making like spangly outfits.

4:50 There we go. There we go. Yeah. We need you to make ours like this. We know. Tell me what you want to be.

4:58 I have an entire like craft room downstairs that's just all like costume making things now at this point.

5:03 It's sick. I love how serious you guys like take Halloween. Oh, I take it so seriously.

5:08 Yeah. From like birth essentially. And I know there's going to be a time where they're eventually going to be like, "Mom, I don't want you to make my costume anymore."

5:15 You guys still like what do you mean? I'm insulted. Come on. But yeah, but yeah, next time you're coming apple picking so that you can bake an apple pie with fresh apple tree.

5:28 Apple picking. 100% down. Then you guys come to the Halloween party. There we go.

5:33 Apple pick and then go to a rager. There we go. Love it. We show you ours and then we go.

5:39 Exactly. Two different worlds collide. We swap Halloweens. There we go. I love that. Well, honestly, everybody probably knows who you are and probably knows your YouTube channel. You have like nearly 15 million subscribers. Am I correct?

5:53 Something like that. Yeah, getting close. That's absolutely insane. That's wild. Wild. How many years have you have you been at it?

5:59 Um, we started our YouTube channel in 2014, I believe. So, 11 years. Wow. That's the year I graduated high school. Holy [ __ ] That's crazy that that's 11 years.

6:10 That's insane. It's been a wild ride for sure. But we've been only doing like the haunted stuff for about five, six years.

6:17 Yeah. Okay. So, what did you start off as? So, at first we were starting on Vine. We did a bunch of like comedy videos and stuff like that.

6:24 Vine. Exactly. I loved Vine. Amazing. We did like public pranks like back in the day.

6:30 Run around on Walmart and like get on the intercoms and stuff like that. That's fun.

6:34 What else are you going to do on Vine? Exactly. You only got six seconds. Then we moved to like YouTube and we started doing like all of like the tags and like I don't know if you remember 2015 2016 YouTube where there's like

6:44 like boyfriend girlfriend tags like question answers things like that all over the internet all over YouTube we were doing like a lot of those types of videos but ultimately decided to like do what we loved which was going to abandoned places

6:57 fun. We grew up in Kansas City and um on the weekends there was not much to do besides like go and exploring abandoned places with your friends and so we just decided to to film that out in uh LA when we were trying to figure out exactly what we wanted to like genuinely do. Um and then that naturally led us into Haunted Course.

7:16 Makes sense. It feels right. Yeah. Right. Feels like you were made to do this. It really does.

7:22 Exactly. And you guys have an escape room now. We do. Yeah. just opened up on uh Hollywood Boulevard, which was insane.

7:29 That's badass. Wild to like think about. Yeah, that's crazy. I remember visiting Los Angeles in 2014, like 6 months after we started being, dang one day, like we got to move here and like walking around Hollywood Boulevard, like, dang, this would be so cool. And now we have an escape room on Hollywood Boulevard and it's like it's a big full circle moment.

7:49 Yeah, for sure. Seriously, I love an escape room. I know. How did that idea come about?

7:53 Um, so we had been there in the past. We actually got uh invited by Hot Topic to do a photo shoot there.

7:58 Same thing. I love that. It's at the a venue or like a spot called the Escape Hotel. And so it's like a just a giant like Yeah. venue. It has like a stage and everything. There's people that perform. It's like a bar on top and stuff and it has a super like creepy ambient vibe uh to it. And so like when we went there to shoot uh we met like the managers and then our management got in contact with theirs and we came up with the idea. And it took took a little bit of time, but we um we finally got it like this past like 6 months and it's been amazing.

8:27 That's so cool. We've been really interested in trying to go like in person with a lot of these types of events because I think a big part of why people watch our videos is they feel like they are coming on these adventures with us. And so we're like, okay, like how can we actually give people some sort of adventure, some sort of like story. So between the escape room and like the year before, we opened up a uh a haunted venue. We bought a haunted venue called for our school in Iowa and like so we're trying to like over over the course of time just like get people in person and like how do you actually give this experience to people and it's been really an interesting ride. Sure.

9:01 Yeah. Such a cool idea. That's such a perfect way to connect with your audience too cuz it's like a perfect combo of everything cuz I feel like even people who are like

9:10 a little hesitant to do like haunted things and are scared. I feel like an escape room is like a safe way. You still have like

9:16 I love escape room. I don't know about you guys. So good. I haven't done one since like middle school, but I want to go to one.

9:23 You just did one. We do them so much. I'm so competitive with them though. I I always want to pick like the hardest level when they give you like the levels that you can do like hardest.

9:32 Yeah. I would end up getting locked in there for days. Yeah. Obviously they end, but if they didn't

9:37 imagine like our escape room like you have to escape literally or you just or you you stay forever.

9:45 Speaking of you guys should like come out. You should try ours any time. So, let us know. And uh we made it extremely hard for a reason.

9:51 Oh, hell yeah. And so there's Do you know the percent like success rate? I forgot.

9:55 It's like 30%. 30%. Mikey's like, I know. I love that. Let's go. That makes me want to do it more. The lower the success rate, the more I'm like, I'm going to get out of there.

10:06 I'll go with you and I'll get it by association. There you go. We've put out a challenge that the fastest time to complete it with no clues by Halloween gets to be a part of the escape room. Putting their faces in there. So, it's going to be really interesting.

10:19 My face is going to be in there. Yeah, it has to be now. Put the challenge out there.

10:24 It's just me. Zero. Can't use clues. Yeah. Oh, I love it. We did one in New York once, John and I, and it was like a It was actually like an old hotel kind of theme,

10:34 and we didn't make it out. And I think about it to this day. I'm so angry. You're bitter about it still.

10:40 Are you blaming Jim? Are you like it's your fault? Like you were too slow on that one puzzle. I It was your fault.

10:45 Every morning like I remember remember that escape room. I'll never forget. Never forget. I love it. So cool though. So going back, you purchased an elementary school in Iowa. Ferrar Ferrar Iowa. And you lived in it for like a week.

10:59 We did. Yeah. That was our way to announce it to the world. It's like we bought it. We realized there was a lot of renovations needed cuz one of the biggest reasons that we bought the place is because it was about to be demolished. Like there was threatening of de demolition because it was kind of breaking down. It was a really old building over 100 years old.

11:15 Um and so we had to repair it and then we're like okay well we want to open this up for investigations cuz like our you know again one of our big goals is to give these people like the experience of investigating themselves. And so we're like okay how do how do we want to announce this to the world? Well, let's just do the craziest investigation can and lock ourselves in our own school like cannot leave for an entire week. Like

11:37 that's wild. It was It was wild. Yeah. And it's it's pretty interesting there because there's a lot of different spirits. There's a bunch of like children's spirits who were students like one uh Yeah. back in the day. Um but there's also like a principal sort of like figure who owns the school. He's a nice guy, but he's also very strict. Um

11:56 principles. Exactly. Ele. Exactly. But then in um the gym there's a boiler room to like the left side of it and that has something very very dark in there and we believe that there's like a portal

12:09 [ __ ] that we weren't able to to close but um yeah something's definitely dark as well.

12:15 Oh damn that's like Freddy Krueger energy in the boiler room. Cool. like over the, you know, perks of owning a spot now. We get to see all of the other investigations that are happening there and like react to them. And there's like we have security cameras over there that capture all these things. We we capture so many like really interesting paranormal evidence. Uh, and we have been seeing over the course of the last year that even since we've left, especially in this boiler room, like the the energyy's gotten darker and darker and people been sprinting out of the school like getting threatened all the time and we're like, "God dang, it's like worse than when we came, god dang, this is insane.

12:50 What is in there?" Yeah, it's pretty wild. But it's been really interesting cuz unlike, you know, most of the places that we get to go to or just like for a couple hours at night or maybe an overnight stay, like being able to not only go there for the week, but then continually see everybody and then being able to go back whenever we want. It's just like a much different experience to see. So,

13:11 it's like an ongoing investigation. Exactly. We're always used to just like going in for one night like you guys experienced and then just filming it and then that's it. But like having like a 247 like camera system like we're able to like actually conduct research and like when nobody's there if like a door opens like we we can see that stuff. And so

13:29 so cool. We're definitely going to be talking about like that sort of security cam footage like in the future of like

13:35 those security cameras like literally caught some crazy stuff. Like we've seen full-on shadow figures. We've seen like footsteps, you know, almost like I you guys seen Harry Potter like that map that sees people like walk. Yeah. Like literally things like that, like walls moving out of nowhere where no one's in the room and it's like, "Oh, okay." Like owning a haunted building, you see some wacky stuff.

13:58 It's super cool. last story like our our buddy exploring with Josh, he was filming a video there, so it's on his channel, but um there's an intercom that goes like around the entire building that the principal obviously uses to talk to all the students and it's only like able to be like turned on in the principal's office downstairs and they were all the way upstairs and just you could hear it turn on the entire school.

14:20 And so it's there's some stuff going on there. And like did anybody say anything or was it just like the click on?

14:26 No voices. It just clicked on and had that kind of like loud. Yeah. Uhhuh. Oh, what the [ __ ] that? That's so scary. I would hate that a lot.

14:35 It's messed up there for sure. Oh, that's so cool though. It reminds me of like I don't know if you guys have seen Hell House LLC.

14:41 I need to watch it. That movie is It's a found footage movie, but it's like an amazing one. It's fun. Like very good. And they have to stay in like they're like coming up with a haunted house for Halloween, but they like buy an old haunted location and they stay in it for a week. That just made me think of it. It turned out differently. So, I'm glad.

14:58 Yeah, it went better for you. Yeah, it went better for you guys. Definitely watch that.

15:02 Okay. Yeah, we'll check that out. That's really good because as soon as you said you stayed there for a week, I was like, you survived. That's great.

15:08 You guys survived a bunch of ghost hunting now. We didn't realize since, you know, our last podcast, you guys been ghost hunting more and more often.

15:15 Yeah, we got inspired from our USS Salem trip. We had so much fun. Let's go. We were like, as soon as we left that, we were like, when can we do this again? This was so fun.

15:25 What was the first thing we did after that? Was that probably Lizzy Bordon again, right? Cuz we had already gone before. Yeah, we went back there

15:32 instead. Spot. Yeah, we've done a few. Talk about true crime right there. That's crazy. It's one of the the biggest.

15:38 I still want to know what happened there. It's just so heavy when you walk in there like immediately.

15:43 You can feel it. Yeah, that was one of the the darkest places. Yeah. Yeah. Especially the stepmother's room

15:50 where she was killed. Yeah, that's a gnarly room. That room and then like the kids room where all the toys are, that room freaks me the [ __ ] out.

15:58 Uhhuh. Are you talking about like the attic? Yeah, in the attic. Exactly. So creepy.

16:02 Yeah, there's something weird in there. For sure. Wait, so with all the places you guys have gone to, do you ever feel like anything follows you or comes with you?

16:09 Cuz you've been to a ton of locations. That's I'm like, did you bring something into our office?

16:15 You guys are screwed. So sorry, guys. We're just going to leave you with a present.

16:19 Exactly. She's over leave you with a little friend, you know. No, a lot of people say that. It's actually really creepy that like sometimes we'll walk up to a place and like someone be like, "Hey, I'm a psychic and you have something attached to you." And I'm like,

16:32 "Yes." Oh, I don't like that. A lot. One time too where it wasn't even like I think she claimed to be a psychic, but do you remember the story? We haven't talked about this in so long where we went to like a Ralph's one time in LA and there was like a random worker there that was just like, "Hey, I'm I'm a fan. and like I've been watching your channel and like you have to tell Sam that something's following him. see it. Like I saw it in the store and like it was like to our faces and we were like

16:58 all right. Like thanks thanks for the bananas. Like leave damn. Yeah. I remember an old guy in like a in a parking lot stopping me and being like

17:08 you're not going to be okay. Oh my god. And I was like yo do not tell me that. Like

17:14 just out of nowhere and that's it. Like period. You're not going to be okay. Uh why? And he's like no you need to get cleansed. And I'm like oh god. Have you guys been cleansed before?

17:24 We we we do that a lot more now. Yeah, I bet. Yeah, we're taking a lot more precautions and like making sure we're a lot more safe with our investigations that we do.

17:33 That's so scary. But definitely to answer your question, there there's been a lot of people saying things have followed us.

17:38 There's been a lot of random people in parking lots and grocery stores. I don't understand. Holy [ __ ] Damn.

17:43 And definitely um we have a spot in in Vegas. We stay there most of the time. And um that house is definitely haunted for sure. We'll see spot in Vegas, you said.

17:53 Yeah, our spot in Vegas. It's like our our main residence, but we'll like see um like shadows going underneath like the door and stuff like that. So, like sometimes I'll think like Sam's like walking

18:03 like by my door and I'm like, "Oh, like he needs to ask a question or whatever." Like why not just knock?

18:08 Open it up, nobody there. Hear noises all the time. Oh, damn. Uh there was one time like we were all like playing a game with some like friends and um

18:16 there was like a how do I describe it? like a somebody like hit our blind like shade or whatever. You know the ones that you can like pull down that are like

18:25 it's not like the shades like this. It's like the like horizontal ones or whatever. We had that pulled down or whatever and then just like somebody like punched it.

18:33 Yeah. Random. Imagine like this the shade has been completely still for like an hour while we're playing this game and then boom. It's like it got punched like impacted.

18:44 It's like whoa. We all just turned around like what just happened? And like not like somebody punched it like you're punching at the window but like it's coming this way if that makes sense.

18:53 Through the window. Oh, okay. So it was not like a like a concave. It was like a convex.

18:58 Yes. Perfect way. Nice vocabulary. Geometry and stuff. That's perfect. Wow. That's terrifying.

19:06 Did you need to get a new shade? Well, no. Thank god. Shades are expensive. Exactly.

19:13 Damn. Wow. Holy [ __ ] Yeah, we've had some like weird things happen in this room.

19:18 The other day, in fact, we were filming, not filming, we were recording like a episode

19:24 and in the middle of it, we just have a calendar over there that like never goes off and it will like if we complete a task, but we had not completed a task that day.

19:33 So, in the middle of telling the story, it just made this like like musical sound.

19:38 Yeah, it was like a lullaby sound. I I usually sit where you're sitting, Sam. I almost went through that skylight. I was like, "Oh my god, I got to go."

19:46 Yeah. I went over there and nothing was on the screen. It hadn't like given a notification. It just was like this creepy lullabi sound and we were like,

19:52 it was so loud. It was like Yeah. jumped in the window. That's scary. Yeah, we've had weird [ __ ] happen.

20:00 I'm trying to think of other weird instances in here. The TV It won't now, but the TV very slowly fell.

20:06 Yeah. You thought that was hilarious. fell on Ash's head in the middle of the TV is like attached to the wall like it's fully up there and it literally I again I sit where you're sitting and it just crashed onto my head

20:20 nobody moved it was like slow motion there wasn't a bang it just literally was like

20:25 attempted murder question mark and you were like l I could not stop laughing you said it was the noise I made it was yeah but we've had little things and I mean this house is a few things Cuz my youngest I don't know if I don't think I've told you have I told you guys about skeleton.

20:42 I don't think so. It's like an honorary thing. We tell every guest. Yeah. So our listeners are going to be like, "Jesus Christ, we're going to hear about skeleton again."

20:49 No, you'll never stop hearing about skeleton. Okay. Skeleton. Okay. My youngest when she was three, I would say, even maybe two or three,

20:57 she would come in and tell us that she saw something in her room, which we were like, "Oh, great. Here we are." And we were like, "Who is it and she was like, "His name is Skeleton."

21:07 But she would say it like that, like not skeleton, skeleton. Like Oh, skeleton.

21:11 Like like his name is Skeleton. And I was like, "Skeleton. Okay." And I'm like, "What is he?" And she was like, "He's a skeleton." And I was like, "Oh." And she's like, "And he sits on my bookshelf and watches me." And I said,

21:25 "Okay." I was like, "Is he mean?" And she was like, "No, he's not." He's a nice guy.

21:29 He's a nice guy. That's what she said. I was like, "Great." And she said, "His bones look old." And I was like, "How do you know that?" Cuz like you're two or three. And she said they're they're like they're like brown and dark.

21:40 How does she know that? And that's I was like, "Why would you know that?" Like she didn't even know what real bones look like.

21:44 She's wild. Oh my god. She's the one we were telling you about. That is my worst nightmare.

21:49 And she and I asked her. I was like, "So she sits on your bookshelf? Like how does he sit?" And she was like, "Oh." She said, "He lays like this."

21:56 Oh god. Which I was like, which was kind of like disgusting. What are you doing?

22:03 Why are you watching my child? What are you doing? Just like, but he's gone now.

22:07 Yeah. Oh, yeah. He would leave every once in a while. And I was like, oh, he leaves and comes back. I was like, he comes back, though. And she goes, yeah, he leaves sometimes to go visit his family.

22:16 His family. He has a family. And one day he left to see his family and didn't come back. And I was like,

22:23 stay with your family. Like, found your family. Even scarier cuz who showed up then?

22:27 Yeah. So, we got rid of Skeleton and we upgraded. She was kind of she was like miss she was like a little bummed. She was like, "Oh, skeleton didn't come back." And I was like, "All right, that's fine." And then one day

22:38 she in the middle of hideand-seek, right? Yeah. My husband and her were playing hide and seek and they were like hiding under a blanket together and she was like, "Oh, I hope the mister doesn't see us."

22:48 The mister? And he was like, "What?" And he was like, "What?" And she was like, "The mister?" And he was like, "You have to explain to me what the mister is."

22:55 Well, then she he said like, "Oh no, he won't find us." Yeah, she she cuz he she explained like he's a guy with no eyes.

23:03 Oh god. Sometimes he takes the snacks in our pantry apparently, which I think is which I think is just her. That's

23:09 she's just like, but she said like he's a little scary. She doesn't like him. And so John was like, "Oh, he won't find us." Like trying to like maintain composure. And she goes, "Oh no, the mister will always find us."

23:23 And he was like, "All right, game over. I don't want to do that." The most ominous [ __ ] I've ever heard in my life. Horrifying.

23:30 Damn. Yeah. The mister will always find him anymore. Yeah. But if you if you bring him up, she's like, "Oh yeah, I remember him."

23:37 Yeah. Like she remembers him. Oh my god. And Skeleton. Yeah. You have a history of like creepy children in this family. Like I was a creepy child.

23:45 You were a creepy child. Were you a creepy child? I don't think I was. No, actually. Yeah, you were because you used to just like sway and talk about flags. I just sleep. I was a sleepwalker, but you were a creepy sleepwalker. I mean, all sleepwalkers, I feel like, are pretty creepy.

24:00 Yeah, that is very true. Seeing anybody like Yeah. 4:00 a.m. Yeah. Yeah. No, thank you.

24:06 Yeah. I used to see a ton of ghosts when I was little. Yeah, you did. I saw I used to live at Alena's parents house cuz we're like aunt and niece technically, but really like sisters. Uh, and that house is haunted as [ __ ]

24:17 It's like an old farmhouse. I think it's like a hundred years old. Oh, maybe a little moreund years old. Yeah.

24:23 Yeah. And I would see like I saw like a little boy one time like a farm boy with like a cap and like you know like those like old timey pants and then the socks would be like up. I saw him like in the corner of our shared room just like reading a book

24:36 and I like woke up so little when she said this. I think I was like five probably. And uh I still can see it in my head.

24:43 I woke my mom up and I was like the boy is like reading like there's a boy in here is reading your book. And she was like no no no like go back to sleep. And she woke up and her book was wedged in the closet and she had not left it there.

24:54 No way. And I like hadn't gotten out of bed or anything like jeez. But it was non-threatening. It was just kind of like an apparition doing

25:01 chilling. Yeah. He was just reading the book. He was probably like, "What the hell is this?"

25:04 Yeah. It's crazy. He probably saw you too and has like a story to tell his like ghost. I saw a girl there.

25:09 Crazy. Like this girl saw me. She was telling her mom. Her mom didn't believe her.

25:14 Yeah. What do you think about that? Like I feel like when we're kids, we we are so much more open to seeing spirits and other things like that. I don't know. Obviously, every kid has had their imaginary friend, but

25:25 I don't know. A lot a lot of me thinks that like sometimes they aren't imaginary friends. We're just more much more open to it with their kids. And then, you know,

25:32 cuz you're not scared yet, I think. And you're not you're open to everything. Yeah.

25:36 Like kids have no biases, no like society hasn't told you what you have to believe and stuff like that.

25:43 It's just totally open. Did you guys see [ __ ] when you were kids? More so. Um, not as like vivid I think as those types of things, but like I used to especially like, you know, fifth grade and below. I get like deja vu like once a week. It was super weird. It like to the point where I was like

26:04 predicting things that were about to happen. I've seen this thing. She's about to say this. Okay. Yeah. And then she just said this. It was like super [ __ ] weird. Happened all the time when I was a kid. That's interesting. Now, like less. I don't know. It's weird.

26:16 Yeah. But now I don't see much. Yeah. I only had one really haunted kind of scary experience when I was like super young. I think I was in sixth grade. So, what 11, 12, something like that. And um I was really getting into like Christianity for like the first time in my life. And I was um this was during a time in my life where I was like going to like a Bible like camp. And I was also like during the weekdays like I would have like a Bible study on a Wednesday and then go to church on Sunday. So I was like really just involved with it.

26:45 And um it's it's hard to explain but like I had a loft bed, right? So like it was one of those where you had to like climb a ladder to get on top. There's like a desk underneath.

26:55 And it happened like three nights like in a matter of like a week or two or something like that. But right before I was about to fall asleep, like right before I was like losing consciousness, I just heard like a like in my like right in my ear and it like woke me up

27:11 and then I would try to go to back to sleep and then like right in my ear like to the point where like I knew I wasn't like dreaming. I wasn't like going crazy. I ran to my mom's room. I told her the story and that happened again like two other nights in like a yeah a month maybe. I don't know.

27:26 At that point like you just said like 11 or something like 11 or 12. Yeah, something like that. And yeah, I still to this day don't know what it was, but like part of me part of me believes that like because I was getting into Christianity and stuff like that, like it was something trying to scare me or like I don't know.

27:41 I have no idea. But I've told that story like once once before. Oh, that's so creepy.

27:47 Yeah. I don't know what it was. I want to know what that was this day. And it's never happened to me for the rest.

27:51 Speak up. Yeah, exactly. My life. Yeah. And it was just like a couple nights that it happened.

27:55 Yeah. It was Again, this was so long ago, so I'm not going to lie. I don't know. I think it was like it happened like two or three nights and then like it would happen like three times.

28:04 I mean that's significant I would say. To the point where again I went and woke up my mom at 12 years old.

28:09 Yeah. No, exactly. Yeah. In middle school like obviously you don't want to do that. I'm like hey mom like there's something breathing in my ear before I like fall asleep.

28:16 That's so scary. And it was so bad that I had to um wear headphones. Oh yeah. To go to sleep cuz I was afraid of something like breathing in my ear. I would have anxiety. I could

28:25 Would you like feel it too? like hear it and feel it or just hear it. It would just be like a loud breath. No, no feeling. Yeah.

28:32 Damn. And that's it, too. No words. It was just kind of like a like wake up. That's so annoying. I really hate that because like [ __ ] like I don't like it.

28:42 Scary. No, that's that's terrifying. And it's the worst when you're a parent of a child who does that cuz you have to like keep your [ __ ] together.

28:50 Something traumatized them by being like that's [ __ ] terrifying. Like are you serious? Like when they first told me about when Oh, the when the twins Yeah. I didn't even think of that. My my older ones, they they haven't really had a lot of things, but they had one.

29:05 They just knocked it out of the park. They Yeah, they had the home room with the one thing they had

29:09 and it was in the our We had We lived in a house that was from like 1860, so it was like crazy old. We always felt some stuff there. It had like a lot of history.

29:17 That place was scary. I used to sleep on the couch in the living room when I would come over and I would like hear [ __ ] in the dining room. There was a lot going on in that house. And they happened to be in their like first like bed beds, like toddler beds. So, they weren't in like cribs anymore. And they were like next to the door. And they just started yelling one night and John and I run up the stairs cuz we're like, "What happened?" We thought one of them like fell out of bed or something. And they're both sitting there like up in bed and one of them says like, "Please get them to leave." And we were like,

29:47 "Oh my god, what? Like what are you talking about?" out and she was like, "People came in here with scissors and we're trying to cut our sheets."

29:54 And I was like, "Oh my god, what?" John literally I love John's reaction. The second we're standing in the doorway and John just goes, "I'm out." Like he was like,

30:03 he was like, "This one's okay on this one." Cuz he was like, "I'm going to [ __ ] this up. I can't."

30:09 So I was like, "What? Okay." And I'm like, "What?" And I'm like, "Is it a lot of people?" And they're like, "Yeah, a lot of people came in and we're trying a couple of them were trying to cut our shit." And they're they're like, "You know,

30:19 I burned my house down personally." Like, "Well, we'll start fresh somewhere else."

30:23 I was like, "Okay." And I'm so I'm like the doorway was right like next to their bed and then there's this little like nook right here where the attic was. It's like a door to the attic. It was a very like spooky little area. So I was like, "Yeah, I would be scared too."

30:36 So I stood in the doorway and I was like, "Are they in the room right now?" And she was like, "No." And I was like, "Where are they?" And she goes, "Right there." and she pointed behind me in the little

30:45 dark ass hallway. Oh my god. So I was like, "Oh my god." Okay. And so I I didn't know what to do. So I

30:51 stepped backwards into the nook and I was like, "So they're like around me right now." And she was like, "Yes, they're right." And I was like I was like, "Okay." And I was like, "Listen, guys." And I just like talked to them and was like, "You're scaring them. Like they're kids. This is their house.

31:07 That's not cool to do. Like you can't scare them. Like you can." And I was like, "And even if you want to come in our room and [ __ ] with us, you can, but like you can't be in this room. This is not okay." And like, "Please leave."

31:18 That's horrifying. And it never happened again. Like, I mean, you set your boundary. I do feel like spirits somewhat listen to intentions, you know, or or like boundaries.

31:26 We had to sleep in their room that night, but it never happened again. No, we've been told that like um even if you can experience really scary things like that, um spirits do have to listen to you. You can demand them like we always say like do not follow us home. You cannot touch me. That even happened to us like the other other night which we can get into. But um yeah like if you if you tell them like firmly they have to listen.

31:50 Yeah. Yeah. I believe it. You have the power over them. Wait. On a scale of like 1 to 10, how much do you guys believe in the ghosts and the paranormal stuff?

31:56 Oh, like 350. Really? I'm a full believer. I just don't think I think there's way too much evidence that there's some kind of afterlife and that even if even if spirits like quote unquote aren't actual people, I think energy goes somewhere.

32:12 You know what I mean? Energy doesn't die. Yeah, it's a fact. I think I'm like a I'm like a seven or eight now.

32:19 Okay. So, there we go. When your kids were saying these types of things, like were you not like getting bricks? Yeah, I think Yeah, I think when they were saying these like when that when the scissors one happened, I was probably like a four or five.

32:33 Okay. Wait, that's why I felt a little more comfortable being like, "Hey, don't don't be in this room, assholes."

32:39 It is so crazy to me that we grew up in the same haunted ass home and that you are not more of a believer.

32:44 I know. Cuz I think I just want to like explain it. I think it's just energy. I think that's how you explain it.

32:50 Yeah. I think that's why I'm getting more like What were mainly the things that brought you from a four to a seven right now? I think now that we've gone through some of these like I had never really done it that much. So I didn't I had like things going on in my own house but I could kind of explain them away in some way.

33:05 Yeah. Or just in my brain explain them away. I was like it's fine that that happened.

33:09 But these kind of things like even like getting touched by something I think when we went to the USS Salem something like blew in my ear.

33:17 Oh yeah. And I fully felt it like fully felt it and did not expect to feel it. So like scared the [ __ ] I think I jumped like 40 ft.

33:26 Like you definitely did. That was terrifying. I think those kind of things I just can't

33:32 How do you explain that? And feelings now like going into certain like Lizzie Bordon going into that house I was like

33:39 this feels different. We've both been told before and I think you were recently told again like that we're intuitive.

33:45 Yeah. You know, so I do think you're start I think you're more open to it now. So you're starting to feel it more when we go to these different places.

33:52 Yeah. I think before I was like, "No, yeah, no, I don't." You're like blocked off a little bit.

33:57 Yeah. Which kind of goes like full circle to like the the kids and stuff like experiencing this cuz it's like you're just more open in general. I think like spirits or or the energies, whatever you want to call it, out there can like tell if you're like close-minded. And there's actually a term of it called like a blockhead where you just like

34:14 you're just blocking won't believe it. So they don't they don't even try. Yeah. So they're like, "Oh, this guy's not going to believe." But if you are open to it, that's when stuff starts happening.

34:22 That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense, actually. Cuz I try when we go into these places to be as like open-minded as possible,

34:28 cuz I'm like, well, if I'm going to experience it, I should experience it. Yeah.

34:32 Don't try to be like the [ __ ] who's like, I'm not going to believe any of this.

34:36 I'm just I'm not going to try to debunk everything. Yeah, that's what we tell all of our guests that when we walk in, it's like, hey, like if if we notice them being like kind of like a blockhead. It's like, well, you're not going to get anything if you're literally going out to deny it. You know, when we first started ghost hunting, we both like really didn't believe in the paranormal side of it much. Uh, and we didn't get much, you know, but then when we really were out there like, okay, well, you know, with the cameras off, let's actually try to get something happen just purely out of interest. That's when we started getting stuff happen. So, it's like that's always the best way to go about it when ghost hunting and all these different things. Be openminded. You're like, let things happen.

35:11 Makes sense. That's the thing. When you just let it happen, it happens. It sure does. Yeah.

35:16 Yeah. Like when we were at Lizzie Bordon, and we'll get into our little game in a second, but when we went to Lizzie Bordon, we were all sitting, we were with Karen and Sabrina from Two Girls, One Ghost,

35:25 and we were sitting in the kitchen or like the dining room. That's where we were.

35:29 Yeah. The dining room. And we were all just reading from like the guest book where people have put their experiences. And I think Sabrina was reading them out loud

35:36 and like just she was like, "Let's just see what happens if I read these things out loud and see if anything happens." From up, we were alone in the house. We had booked the whole house just for the four of us.

35:45 From upstairs, a woman's voice yelled something so clearly. It was like, "Who's there?" Wasn't it?

35:52 It yelled like, "Who's there?" And it was a woman's voice. And you can hear it on the camera cuz we have like a camera just sitting on the I literally just thinking about it

36:01 cuz you can see us on the camera. All of us just be like, "What was that?" And we we searched. Nothing was up there. No one was up there.

36:08 You were so scared to the point where like Elena thought somebody broke into the house.

36:11 Yeah. I was like, "Is there somebody in here?" That is terrifying. That's what I was more scared of. I was like, "Is there like a real person in here?"

36:17 Way more afraid of real people. Definitely. It was so clear though. And we weren't really trying to do anything. We were just reading the experiences and just sitting there and I was like

36:26 that was the clearest thing we had heard all night. It was gnarly. That's horrifying. It was so scary.

36:31 Were you guys filming too? Yeah. Yeah. I think we have that on camera. We do somewhere. Yeah.

36:36 So cool. I was eating Starburst, so I didn't hear it. I think it's just me and Karen who are like, "Did everyone hear that?"

36:42 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was terrifying. But on the on the thing, like the recording back, you can hear it fully. That's how I heard it.

36:49 Oh my god. You just can't make out what she's saying. Yeah. But you can hear like a voice in the distance.

36:54 It was terrifying. Horrifying. Yeah. God, it's the noises when they're like outside. Like even like when we were doing it and the noises that were happening like in the distance.

37:04 Those are the things that me up. And you guys still get scared. Oh yeah. Which is it's like surprising in a way.

37:11 Yeah. There's some some things that we're like, okay, like we've heard these types of things before, but there's always stuff that's new and it's always like, you know,

37:18 like terrifying. Yeah. It's the story that really freaks me out. So even though we've been doing it for years, like some would think that we would get used to it, but it's it's not the case. Like we'll spend like a week beforehand like researching it, studying it, watching YouTube videos, all that. And so like we're kind of prepping ourselves to like go and so when we walk in, we're like, "Oh man, we've already like learned so much about this place." And that's what like makes it freaky.

37:40 That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Cuz you're just so familiar with like every facet of the house. you know everything about the story and so like when you've heard that there's for example like a door slamming or something like that and then that happens to you it just ultimately makes it 10 times more scary.

37:55 Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And you're like what's coming when it's outside the room. I'm like is it coming here?

38:00 Yeah. And what are we going to do when I fight this? Of all the places you've gone to, do you have a favorite?

38:21 Like in terms of like most scary or Yeah. Or just like one that I would say most scary or that you like had the most crazy experiences at.

38:29 Oo. Oh, that's really interesting. H I mean one like personally the thing that scares me the absolute most uh is a upcoming video that we have. It's we went to the Paris catacombs.

38:45 Stop it. It's 200 miles of the largest graveyard in the world. 6 million dead bodies buried underneath Paris. And it's just miles and miles of a labyrinth of different like caves systems and everything like that. And there's no map. And so

39:01 you can get lost so easily in so easily. We know so many people that got lost that you know got threatened to be robbed. There's gangs down there. People die down there. It's really rough uh in terms of just like the physical danger. And then you got to think it might be one of the most haunted places in the world with six million dead bodies down there. All the ritualistic stuff that's gone down there. really uh dark things. But I we've known about that for a long time and I've pushed off that video for I think 5 years now.

39:33 I was like I cannot do it this year. I cannot do it this year. I cannot do it this year. I was like need to muster up some more courage and we finally went for this year's like how we series and like it was genuinely terrifying. like literally walking around next to hundreds of bones that you know used to be people and like just like us and it's just really eerie feelings and not only that like our investigations were like absolutely horrifying. We got little we like tried to record EVPs um basically just sound recordings. You play it back and sometimes there's you know recordings of things that you can't hear with a human ear and there was literal guttural screams back at us like and then sometimes like saying full sentences back to us and we're like what is going on here? I've never heard anything like it. Uh it was genuinely terrifying.

40:23 And like that place didn't just have paranormal danger, but obviously it was like illegal to go down there.

40:29 Uh-huh. And then there's these uh people that like live down there called cataphiles

40:34 and they like steal your map and your flashlight and [ __ ] So obsessed with that idea. Did you come into contact with anybody?

40:40 We ran into one. What's really scary is um we went down there with a couple buddies and they were like, "We're not going to tell you certain things that we know about this place until afterwards. just just for the sake of your mind. That's really creepy. So, we leave and he goes, "Okay, well, I didn't want to say this, but I know a guy who recently went down there and got his backpack, his food, his water, everything stolen from him." Um, and like he got left deep in the catacombs by a guide purely just like I just want to rob the guy. And all he had was 10% left on his phone battery and then one little flashlight. And he was down there for hours and hours and hours just waiting aimlessly walking around before someone luckily found him

41:26 and he made it out alive. But like he could have easily died easily. Yeah. And just another random YouTube explorer that we just went down there like I want to go film a video just like we did.

41:38 And his guide left him. Is that what you said? Like it was on YouTube. The video's on YouTube. Um yeah, shout out Nightcape I believe his name was.

41:46 You have to see this. You have to watch it. It It's like probably one of the scariest YouTube videos I've ever seen cuz it's so real and like you He's by himself completely. No food, no water and he needed he was like uh from England so he didn't know like obviously like the French language or anything either.

42:03 Communicate. Yeah. So scary. I would just sobb. I think I would just sit down like sit down and cry.

42:10 And like if your if your light goes out, it is pitch black. Oh, It's like I mean it's a

42:15 not only are you in a labyrinth and you have no idea what's going on, it's pitch black. So you literally can't see anything

42:21 and it's like a pitch black you can't conceive of like we don't exist in that pitch black.

42:27 Like you could have your your finger right next to your eyeball and you cannot see

42:30 not even like sense it there. That's horrifying. Claustrophobia then like wing through waters that go up to your chest and stuff that's freezing cold.

42:37 Did you guys have to wade through water? Yeah. Wow. So we were completely soaked. Um, we had to like, it's so funny. You basically like in public on a busy street like climb through a manhole.

42:49 Yeah. And you're just like everybody. It's so like when we were like making our escape finally, we were like crawling out there like completely dirty, drenched, like soaked and people were like looking at us like, "Oh my god."

43:00 They probably see it all the time. There's like people coming out of manholes like all [ __ ] up.

43:04 What's going on? Exactly. We had like like a army crawl like on our hands and knees and stuff like that for probably a football field or more like at certain times just to get from one cave to the other.

43:17 Was it like tight? Yeah. Like you had to push. So you essentially caved. Yeah. Basically you had to push your backpack.

43:22 Splunking. Is that called? It's called Spelunking. What's that movie? Um The Descent.

43:28 The Descent. Have you ever seen that? Where they go like cave dive? Oh, you got to watch.

43:32 I like those movies. That's so scary to me. Are so scary. There is a movie based on Paris Catacombs as of Below. We covered it on the screen.

43:40 Oh my god, it's horrifying. I I watched that on the plane going to Paris. I was getting to the moon. I was like, I'm not.

43:49 Save that for after. I was just like, I want to be fully immersed. Fully. And you were. I bet.

43:56 I was like, no, thank you. I'm just going to take a nap. I went in line to disassociate real quick. Do

44:02 you have a favorite? Um there's so many like cool spots that we've been to. We've been all like around the world uh doing this stuff. So there's like really cool locations like castles and stuff. But in terms of like just one that comes to mind is have you guys been to

44:18 or talk about I that is like my bucket list. Initially I said that I wouldn't go but I think now that we're getting more into it I would.

44:27 Yeah. I'm really I'm dipping more into these things. Like I agreed I'll do like a Ouija board now and stuff. Wa!

44:33 I know. Let's get Yeah, we covered like the case. So, you know the story behind it.

44:40 I kid you not, like out of all the haunted places that we've been personally that one

44:45 talking about feeling when I walked in there, you can feel how like evil and heavy it is because it involved a lot of children and stuff like a lot of messed up things happened in that house

44:55 and like what was it? Eight people. You guys eight people. It's been a while since we covered it, but I'm I think you're right.

45:01 Yeah. There's a brutality like blood on the ceiling and stuff, right? Yeah. And the the axe marks cuz he used like the blunt side to to murder. So you can see like the chops in the ceiling. And what's interesting like what's what makes it scary is it's like uh just in a random neighborhood. So it looks like a just a normal little community, tiny little neighborhood next to a bunch of other houses, but then you walk in and

45:24 it's like a different world. Yeah. It feels so dark. I feel like the energy in you guys have to try it. I know we have to. All right. So, obviously you guys have worked with like a lot of psychics and mediums throughout your endeavors. So, we wanted to tell you some of the most wild techniques that we found from throughout the years.

45:44 Okay. Okay. So, just a couple of like interesting like Victorian era seance stuff.

45:50 Yeah. They used to do some weird stuff and they were like diabolical. There was a couple that I'm like you guys are [ __ ]

45:56 Really? Okay. So, we're talking about some like scam artist type of stuff. Yeah. Big time. Big time.

46:02 So, I'm going to start with possibly the craziest one that we saw. Um, the ectoplasm of it all. So, mediums in the early 1900s,

46:11 the ectoplasm. So, mediums in the early 1900s said basically when ectoplasm started leaking, that was the signal that they had tapped into the spirit world. That's how you knew like [ __ ] was going down, you know?

46:23 Yeah. Damn. That happens to us all the time. always just all all kinds of goo. Um, so it would sometimes include a gauzy substance leaking from all kinds of places on the medium, their ears, their mouth, their nose, their eyes. Um, and apparently sometimes even their genitalia.

46:44 E, and I have a picture of that. It's It's safe for work, but kind of. Oh, what the

46:52 Wait, that's a lot. more than I expected. Yeah. Damn. Has that ever happened to you?

47:02 Super excited. I had some goo coming out of my pants. It was almost too It was crazy.

47:09 Almost that much. Wild. It was wild. You're like, "Damn, the ghosts are here. Please stop.

47:16 Something is happening. Please stop." It would not stop. So eventually when this like really got popular, the term ectoplasm was coined. I don't know what the [ __ ] they were calling it before.

47:29 Oh god, good. God only knows, but uh yeah, that term was coined by French uh physiologist and uh psychical researcher Charles Rcher.

47:39 So as soon as the white viscous fluid started leaking from wherever it did, that's when you knew that the spirits were in town. I guess what the medium said the purpose of the fluid was during the seances was that it would turn into like the face of a person trying to be contacted from the other side.

47:55 Okay. Um yeah, it would see face in the goo. They'd see faces in the goo and we'll get into that.

48:01 They really investigated the goo. Sometimes the goo would be like a limb like it would it would look like an arm like a disembodied arm.

48:09 Uh or sometimes it could be like a full body figure. Oh, in of the goo. That is a lot of good.

48:17 A lot of good. I did not know this much ectoplasm existed. I didn't either. Uh so now the interesting thing about this though is that apparently the mediums would tell you this would only work in the dark. The lights could not be on and you could not get close to them while this was happening.

48:33 Can't see. And if you turned on the light, they were like, "Oh, it's just going to dis disintegrate. So like we got to keep it super dark up in here." M so Harry Houdini was a huge skeptic of this practice and he called out mediums and basically how they got to getting the ectoplasm to come out. He said they were swallowing all kinds of things like cotton mixed with goose grease

48:53 uh cloth gauze muslin and sometimes sheep's lungs. What they would like mix all this [ __ ] together like it makes me think of just like paperiermâché.

49:03 Yeah. and but they would ingest it or they'd like stick it in their ears and they'd have like wires that they could pull like obviously without showing whoever they were reading and that's when it would start to flow.

49:14 I don't know about how they like how that picture came to be. Imagine being that committed to the bit.

49:20 Yeah. Like you are that committed to the scam that you're willing to swallow chiffon and

49:25 put it in places. Yeah. Or put it in places. Put it Yeah. And just allow it allow it to like

49:31 I'm not committed to that bit. No. Yeah. Cuz they would essentially just like make themselves sick in the cases where it came out of their mouth. They would they'd just like throw up sheep like anxiety out.

49:41 Yeah. Oh. Uh so one of the mediums who was famous for this was Martha. Um she was also known as Eva C or Eva Kerriier. She was actually said to be the first person to introduce this practice. And sometimes she would even include like little pictures of people um so that when it started leaking out people would look at the photos and be like, "Oh my god, that's my grandma. Oh my god, that's my cousin Beth who died like seven years ago. What? But she eventually got exposed when people realized that the photos were of celebrities from magazines and she would cut them out and like disguise them somehow.

50:19 What? What? Yeah. Eventually, somebody during a seance was like, "Wait a second. This is like a king from like another country. This is not my grandpa."

50:28 Whoa. And she got called out. Wait, so you're saying they would like eat the paper and then like regurgitate it?

50:35 Yeah. So she would basic she used I guess sheep's lungs mixed with like other stuff like muslin and that kind of thing and she would like crinkle up pictures into it. So then when they would, you know, go through the goo, they would see the pictures.

50:49 Oh yeah. Now was she someone who like puked it out or did she like piss it out? Was she one of which one?

50:54 So I think she was Yeah, this isn't her. Here's another one. So, some people were puking.

51:02 Oh god. Ew, I hate it. Yeah, I think she did all kinds of things with her ectoplasm. I think she was one of the uh

51:10 these people as well. Okay. I think she it was just coming out of everyone. Like somebody peeing out your grandma.

51:17 Yeah. Kind of insane. Or what you think is your grandma and then you're like your grandma's the king of England.

51:23 That's a man. Not my grandma. That's a man. So that was that was our girl. That's crazy.

51:30 Wow. Eva. So that's ectopplasm. It's so funny. We were doing this investigation in Australia at a prison and like we this whole investigation 3:00 in the morning the the owner walks in. He goes, "You guys want to see something cool?"

51:48 Sure. He goes, "If you don't tell anybody, I have ectoplasm." like this is amazing.

51:56 Huh? I have never heard of someone having ectoplasm. I keep it in a jar. I was like, "Okay,

52:05 your jar of liquid. I have to see." Like, "We got to do this." We're with a couple other buddies. until 4:00 a.m. walk into this guy's like back office and he pulls out this jar of

52:16 clear looking weird goo liquid and it's in this like you know mason jar and he's like I've been keeping this for ages. I was like where did you get this? You're like, I have a lot of followup questions.

52:29 I'm like, I I don't know if I want to know, but like also what I've never We've We've seen a lot of interesting characters, but we've never had someone present their

52:40 ectom ectoplasm in a jar and I keep this special just to show people. I was like, found it.

52:47 I said it was like he found the goo on some table, right? Yeah. like after just like the seance stories like after like a big like investigation like there was just goo that appeared

52:58 and he just said you know I'm picked up some of this goo and th spatula and just got him into the jar.

53:03 No I the vibe I get from him is just straight hair. Yeah. He didn't even give me that goo.

53:08 So you held it. Well I tried I like reached for it. The jar that. Yeah. And he was like like you got to touch my goo. And I was like I'm so sorry.

53:16 I'm so sorry. Said you can look but no touch. But he was like yes sir. mysterious.

53:21 Damn. How do you leave that conversation? We were like, "Thanks. We're going to go uh do our last investigation."

53:28 Yeah, that was so bizarre. It was It was exactly the color that you would imagine

53:34 this to be. At least he presented it in a jar and didn't present it in He didn't just like it.

53:41 Yeah. Or just like leak it out of their nose or something. Exactly. Gross. That's wild. Also, I'm like now hearing him say that in an Australian accent in my head.

53:50 Oh, I didn't even think of that. You want to see my goo. That was a little British.

53:55 Don't touch my goo, please. Get roasted for our Australian accent. Sorry. I want to see ecto. No, I don't.

54:05 I changed my mind. I kind of do. I hear about it. I just I don't want to experience it happening, but I' i'd see that guy's jar of ectoplasm.

54:12 I'd look at that guy's jar of goo. I'd be like, please let me see. Damn. Well, mine are not

54:18 characters mine are not nearly as like graphic wild as that. So, I was just going to talk about spirit trumpets, which which just seemed to me like silly.

54:28 They were like these little cone- shaped trumpet things that they would be like cardboard or metal

54:33 and they used it. It just made me think of those like cartoons where like they would put like a giant horn to their ear

54:38 and they would put a horn to their ear and say that they were like hearing the spirits talk to them

54:43 and then they would use the horn to like distort their voice and pretend that the spirit was speaking through them.

54:49 Oh. And sometimes they would levitate it with like wires and [ __ ] and if it was an audience they would have it levitate over to the person that was getting the message.

54:57 So they would just like and they would be like little kids sometimes under a table who were like trolling

55:03 at their night job. had just like their, you know, moonlighting after school and they would just have it float over to the person that the message was for and like it would just come plop by your ear.

55:14 That's pretty high tech. That's pretty high. I kind of want to see that. But it had to be dark so you can see like always. Yeah. When you're scamming, it's dark always. For sure. Always.

55:25 So there's that one that was just silly to me that I was like I just picture this little like trumpet floating through the air and it's like you got a message. And then one that was diabolically evil to me and they did it a lot was sometimes they would embed they would like make the candles themselves and they would put the if they were doing a reading for like specific people they would put the perfume or cologne of the person's loved one in the candle wax so when they burned the candle they would smell the cologne or perfume and they would think that the person was there and I was like

55:57 what [ __ ] up on another level that's so messed up also how do They know the person's perfume.

56:03 That's the thing. I don't know if they would do like a There was only three back then. Like maybe that was it.

56:09 Luck of the draw, I guess. Yeah. They didn't have to worry about like the whole perfume center. Sephora, I guess.

56:14 There was like Chanel worry about, but some some oil. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a flower.

56:20 That is pretty messed up. Oh my god. Can you imagine? They'd like bring it up like they'd be like, "Oh, I smell something." And the person would be like, "That's my husband's cologne. Oh, that's like, "Well, he has to be here." And I'm like, "You have to be the nastiest

56:34 person." Yeah. To go with that. Yeah. I won't commit to the bit enough to piss out exo ectoplasm. And I will not commit to that bit either.

56:42 I'm glad that you're not willing to piss out ectoplasm. No, that's a good quality.

56:46 I will not I stand this is I'm standing on business right now and I will not do that.

56:50 Just hold it in a jar, but not in a jar for sure. But I will not produce it. Yeah,

56:55 we were just talking about that how like it is so like [ __ ] up to like think there are people that make money on telling you about your dead loved ones when they have absolutely no idea.

57:07 Yeah. You know, that is [ __ ] up. Like Sylvia Brown cuz it's like how do you how do you just go to sleep after that?

57:13 Yeah. You know, cuz you know you're lying. Yeah. Exactly. How do you how do you live with yourself?

57:18 Or do you think they get to the point where they think they're on to something?

57:22 I think that happens to a lot of people. Yeah definitely. I think they might know that they're like deceiving potentially, but they're also like helping people out. Like they they probably justify it in their head by being like, "Oh, well, it's making them feel better to get these answers." When in reality, they're just lying to you.

57:41 The water. Yeah, that's how they justify it. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Yeah. I've been getting I'm like on a Sylvia Brown kick right now because I'm getting them on my TikTok for some I don't know where they came from. I don't know how this happened. Now you're going to get more cuz we're talking.

57:54 Oh, I already am. I'm on like Sylvia Brown talk all of a sudden. It's like the people just started like ser she was like this psychic from she used to be on all these talk shows like she was always on like Montel Williams or like Sally Jesse Raf

58:06 felt like you know those kind of daytime talk shows and she would go on there and she would like but she would help with like investigations and like tell or she wouldn't help with investigations, she would give her input.

58:16 She was helping and she would like talk to like family members of people who were missing or murdered and like give them information. And there was a couple of times that she was so wildly wrong that it was like crazy. Like one there's a clip of her and it's one lady talking about her husband or her boyfriend or fiance. I forgot which one. And she was like he died and you know I just like I need some closure. I need to know where he is. We were never able to get his body. And she doesn't tell her anything else. And Sylvia Brown looks at her and says well that's cuz he's in the water. And she was like and you loves telling people that.

58:50 Oh yeah. She loves that. She'll throw you in the water no matter what. But she says, she's like, "Water, honey." And so she's like, "Honey, he's in the water." And you can see the lady be like,

58:57 "That's not what?" And she goes, "Well, it was 911 and he was a firefighter on 911." So like, "So how do you get water?"

59:06 And you can see Sylvia Brown be like, she said, "Damn, I go he's in the water." Like she just commits to it, but you can see it. She's like, "Fuck." Like she's I [ __ ] that up. But she just commits and you can see the lady's like, "Okay."

59:19 And just sits down. And I was like, "You asshole." Yeah, that's so bad. Throw that their loved ones in the water, too. I'm like, the worst kind of outcome that you

59:28 She said that to another parent of a case that we covered. And wasn't the girl like still alive and being held captive?

59:34 I think so. She's done it a couple of times. Yeah. Like once the water trick doesn't pan out for you one time, you think you'd move on.

59:40 Once you fail at it like that, you need you need to retire the water. Like don't don't use that one again.

59:46 Yeah. after you hear that cuz when she said he it was 9/11 when he died and he was a firefighter I was like what

59:52 how do you [ __ ] that up so bad Sia honey Sylvia I'm telling you go on Sylvia Brown Tik Tok you'll get all these awful clips

59:59 that actually would be like be so cool to like just see a compilation of all the mediums just failing horribly just like catching them in the act and they're like oh god

1:00:09 yeah cuz you can see it on there like you can see the panic set in for like a second but she recovers so fast and just commits Yeah, that's crazy. So personal.

1:00:19 People do that. Yeah, I would die. Like I would just start crying. I would never be able to do that. I couldn't

1:00:26 deceive someone like that. No naming names, but have you ever worked with a medium and been like I don't know.

1:00:32 There's definitely a lot of like interesting characters. I mean, we've been doing this for years. There's a lot of people that like you're like,

1:00:40 h there's like no way that that can be correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So definitely a couple for sure.

1:00:47 But then on the flip side, have you had things be like, "Holy [ __ ] yeah, we've experienced that as a group, but yeah, 1,000%."

1:00:55 So it's like, yeah, I believe in some. And then I think some are scam artists. That's what I think. That's pretty much what I think too. I do think people have that ability

1:01:04 like for mediums especially, I feel like, but I think there's a lot of people who are just kind of looking for the money.

1:01:10 Yeah, for sure. I think I'm like 90%. maybe 80 85% are fake really and then there's that actually real because I think most people do it for the money

1:01:21 and I think the people that are out there that are doing it genuinely to help people and you can tell that they're either not taking it for the money or like it's not their main gig, it's just like a side thing that they do, I think those people are a lot more believable. Other people that are doing it for like research and stuff like that, I think that's much more believable. like all the little mom and pop shops that are like a psychic 50% off today. It's like okay you just make ends meet actually.

1:01:46 Uh so it's it's much different. I've definitely been to psychics and had them tell me things and I've been like what?

1:01:52 That's not accurate at all. Yeah. Yeah. But then on the flip side, I've been to psychics and they've like predicted things in my life that have happened and I've been like, "Holy shit."

1:02:00 Yeah. It just depends. When we first started this, I was like, "Yeah, sure. Someone can sell the future." But now I'm like, "Oh, wait. Someone can probably tell the future. [ __ ] What is going on here? This is insane."

1:02:12 Uh, but I heard someone describe it as like it's just another one of the human senses. And some people have more dormant than others. Just like some people have perfect pitch, you know, it's like very rare, but humans can't have that. And then it's like people do it. It happens. You know, it's just one of these things that like, you know, a very select few people have that ability to see certain things or frequencies that others can't. And so with that logic, I was like, that kind of makes sense. Like the idea of something like a perfect pitch or like, you know, the people that are like the fastest people in the world or something. I was like, they're people with superhuman type of talents. And it isn't too farfetched to believe that some talents can help you see things or hear things that are not necessarily accessible to everybody.

1:03:02 Yeah, definitely. Each medium too has like a different sort of skill that we've we've found it seems like. So like we've met some that are only able to see figures or people, whatever. Um but then there's some that like can feel it. There's some that use like the clarommancy and stuff that use like the bone throwing. So cool.

1:03:21 Yeah. just a lot of different techniques to to contact or see the afterlife. It's interesting.

1:03:25 It is interesting. I feel like the ones who do like, and this is just me, when they do like a big audience of people,

1:03:32 those are the ones that I'm like, I don't buy it on stage and stuff. Yeah. I just can't buy it. My girl Teresa Caputo,

1:03:40 I Oh, Long Island, right? She's Long Island medium. I don't know. I I do believe her.

1:03:48 I don't want It's You know, I believe her period. Yeah, I believe her. Okay, I just love her. I'm skeptical of those.

1:03:55 I've seen her show when I was like little. I loved it. So, I'm like I loved the show when I real.

1:04:01 It's just the audience, the big audience ones. I'm like, it's hard when you see like shows of like mentalists or like illusionists that like you think, whoa,

1:04:10 how in the world did they know that? But then it's just like, you know, a trick that they've done a 100 thousand times.

1:04:16 Yeah. slight of hand or some quick thing that we don't see. And when you really break it down, sometimes when they do like the big audience things, when you break down how they get to the answer, it's like so clear how they get there that you're like,

1:04:29 like in the moment you don't think that. Yeah. Yeah. Like people give information and they don't realize they are.

1:04:34 That's very true. And stuff like that. Yeah. I love seeing the people who like won't give information though and the psychic is actually for real and they're like

1:04:45 they get it on basically nothing. Yeah, you are one of those people. I always go whenever we go to a psychic or any tarot card read, I'd give nothing. I will just sit there and I want to see.

1:04:54 I take my rings off. I won't like even show that I'm married. Like nothing. They're like, does that make sense? And she's like I'm like, maybe I don't know.

1:05:03 I'm like, you tell me. I don't know. Keep going. You know better than I do. Meanwhile, I'm like, yes. And when my husband said that and my dog from four years ago,

1:05:12 we lived here. I start crying. I'm like, that's so Yeah. Like I'm on to something.

1:05:22 Oh, yeah. So, we're gonna we'll move on to um we'll do a little game. Hell yeah. Games with guests.

1:05:28 Love games. We'd love to do a would you rather. Okay. We're going to start off with that. So,

1:05:33 are you guys participating or is it just us? We always participate. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool.

1:05:37 Yeah. Um All right. So, would you rather let a Ouija board spirit possess your right hand for 24 hours or you both really like Wait a second.

1:05:46 That's so specific. It is. Or would you rather let Zach beans narrate a few months of your life in a dramatic voiceover?

1:05:54 Oh, that's a dream come true. God narration. We love Zack Bans. He is the king of paranormal. If if he was like, "Now you're going to go downstairs

1:06:07 and eat some cereal." I would actually be so happy. He could make literally like a puppy terrifying, you know?

1:06:15 So, it's actually so true. It his narration is, you know, his narrations are like top tier.

1:06:22 They are cuz they're crazy. They're intense. It would be like a slow narration. I feel like he's just like, "Now we're going to the car." And you're like, "Come on."

1:06:30 You're like, "Come on. I have to go." Drive you a little crazy. Uh, I feel like I mean having someone narrate my life

1:06:37 would drive me insane. I was going to say I kind of I would think it's hilarious for like maybe a couple of hours. Like I'd be like this is so fun.

1:06:45 I wouldn't even make it a couple hours. I think hour three I'd be like you can [ __ ] leave now. Like I need alone time.

1:06:51 Yeah, that's true. But I also don't want my hand possessed for 24 hours. Yeah. What if you would kill somebody?

1:06:56 That's the thing, damn like idle hand. I didn't think of that. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah.

1:07:01 Yeah. It could be okay. Your right hand can do a lot. It's true. Your right Your right hand can do a lot, but also Zach's narrating your life for a few months or 24 hours.

1:07:12 Months. Crazy. Oh, that's true. So, you could fix this if you've ever seen the movie Idle Hands. You can at least try to fix it. So, if it's 24 hours,

1:07:23 okay, you could lock yourself in a room. True. You could maybe like handcuff your hands. cuff yourself

1:07:31 and I would just watch some [ __ ] TV. Oh, that's a good idea. And your hands just like

1:07:35 Yeah, your hands just go off over here. Let's go. Letting it do its thing. I'm doing that.

1:07:40 Yeah, that's smart. Okay, I'm changing. You're changing. I'm Yeah, just cuz the length of time you're sticking the wrist.

1:07:50 I would I would use that time to record a documentary about my life pre- narrated, you know.

1:07:56 That's pretty smart actually. There you go. Yeah, you've already got the narration [ __ ] down.

1:08:00 Sick. All right, so next. Would you rather accidentally summon a Victorian ghost who refuses to leave until you let them co-host a vlog?

1:08:09 Or would you summon a demon who only communicates through Sam and Colby fan edits on Tik Tok?

1:08:16 I love how specific these are. Who came up with them? That is unilarious. We try to tailor them to our guests as you can see. Oh man,

1:08:26 I feel like we are being communicated by Sam and Kobe edits on TikTok all the time.

1:08:33 I mean, that's so funny. Like, I want to I want to choose that one cuz it's so funny, but like practicality, I'd probably be like the first one, honestly.

1:08:40 Yeah, because like think about it. If you had a ghost like co co- vlog, like that's so viral.

1:08:46 You're breaking the internet at that point. You also essentially already do that. Like they're kind of like background stars in your videos, you know?

1:08:53 Exactly. But like imagine we're like, "Hey guys, Sam and Kobe like what's up?" Like we're here with And he's like, "Paul and this is an invisible guy." Like

1:09:00 I'm actually love that. I get that. What are you doing, Sam? Yeah. I think to your point, the the viral vlog is there, you know? Plus, like, you know, I feel like a ghost could

1:09:16 get other ghosts to get active, you know? True. He like summons the other ones.

1:09:20 Yeah, exactly. The ghost would probably be the best ghost hunter out there. Probably hunt what you know.

1:09:25 Cuz he'd be like, "You're doing this all wrong. Let me tell you how to do this." Like

1:09:29 he's like, "This is what we respond to." You know? Yeah. He's like the perfect translator, you know?

1:09:34 Yeah. Or is he like us where he's like, "What was that?" Imagine like, "Did you see that?"

1:09:41 He's freaked out by you. He's like, "Why are you here?" Like, "What's going on?" He's like, "Oh my god, it's freezing in here suddenly."

1:09:47 I thought that was you. That's awesome. All right. Yeah. I think I would wanna I would want to have a third voice on the pod that's a ghost.

1:09:55 Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. I mean, we do. Nicholas. Oh, we do. Yeah.

1:10:00 When we do our listener tail episodes, we do Ghost Tube and there's a ghost, Nicholas, who like [ __ ] with us while we record them. He just like has things to say about the listener.

1:10:08 He doesn't like me. Uh we're not we're not best friends forever. He loves you. Running theme in our life actually.

1:10:15 Wow. Yeah. I don't know what I did. I don't I don't know what I did either. I don't know why.

1:10:21 Yeah. Beef with Nicholas. All right. Beef with Nicholas big time. We We've been friends like the last We've been We've been amicable the last couple times.

1:10:28 Dead men love me apparently. I don't know. Dead men have a thing for you. I don't know what that's about.

1:10:32 Yeah. All right. Would you rather use a possessed doll as your permanent cameraman or have to share your bed with a ghost who won't stop whispering, "Smash that subscribe button until dawn?"

1:10:46 Until dawn. until all night. Oh man, could I would film that. That's so funny. These are so unique. These are amazing.

1:10:57 Never heard any of these. Probably smash the subscribe. Like that's only like a what 12 hour thing maybe.

1:11:04 Yeah. And then you don't have to say it for a whole day. Everyone does it for you. Then you can

1:11:08 But you're sharing your bed with them and you're trying to which you've experienced.

1:11:12 I have experienced that. Full circle moment. I just hear him. You're like, "Smash that subscribe." Like, "Stop." Um, yeah. But like, imagine giving like a camera to like a haunted doll. Like, are they even going to be able to like hold it up with

1:11:23 That's a shaky cam moment. Exactly. Are they going to throw it at your head? And then you're getting the double chin angle all the time. They're kind of short.

1:11:30 They're never going to give you good lighting. True. Not Not the good angle. True.

1:11:34 Would be sick if the if the possessed doll was like a cast member and like just like hanging out with us all the time, but the

1:11:41 turn on the not cool. Is Annabelle like running next to you or what? I mean, imagine like it was me, you, and little Annabelle

1:11:48 and just Annabelle with the camera. That is a really bad angle from down there.

1:11:53 Their B cam, you know, like Oh, yeah. She's like the B cam. We're like, Annabelle, just go film.

1:12:01 She gets pissed. Go take our thumbnails. She's like, a dang it. See, we wouldn't have to really worry about that. I

1:12:10 Yeah, we really don't. We could have a possessed doll be our camera person only for one episode a month.

1:12:16 Yeah. Yeah. Guest episodes will be like this is just our possessed doll. You don't buy them that.

1:12:21 Yeah. But I already have my kids are already jumping in my bed. I don't need a a ghost in there as well.

1:12:26 Yeah. I'm not get too hot. I'm cranky in the night time. So I don't want to don't want to deal with that.

1:12:32 Yeah. You'd punch the ghost. I would absolutely punch the ghost. My husband says whenever he wakes me up that I like go into a fight position. wake up like that.

1:12:41 When he woke me up yesterday, he was like, "Are you okay? Are you dead?" 4 p.m. you're

1:12:46 Yeah. 4 p.m. I'm ready to fight. I just wake up angry. I just wake up like, "What the fuck?" Like, like every time I do that thing, too, like I'll be ready for motherhood when it comes because I go and I wake up.

1:12:58 You have to do that. Oh my god. That's like the mom thing that you have to do. My kids tell me all the time. They're like, "You sound like you're dying when you wake up." Cuz they'll be like, "Mom." And I'm like, "What?" Like, it's fine. Drew's always do that. I'm like, I don't know. I'm not like trying to sleep.

1:13:14 Getting ready to terrify your children in the middle of the night when they need water.

1:13:18 Let's go. Uh, actually, yeah, I would definitely not have the ghost in my bed for me.

1:13:24 It would be much more useful for you. Yeah. Um, so mine is, would you rather accidentally marry a ghost through a botched seance wedding ritual? Like, oops, I married one of these. Whoa.

1:13:36 Or have a poltergeist that insists on being your chaotic third roommate and constantly messes with your editing files.

1:13:45 Oh, you're my either getting married and a botch seance to a ghost. To a ghost.

1:13:50 Does that mean 50% of our assets are going to this ghost? Well, you maybe could sign a prenup, I guess. Unless you do the You could do a postnup. A postnap. You do a postnap. Postnap. A prenup. But after the fact,

1:14:03 I have no idea. Or cuz cuz this poltergeist is [ __ ] up your editing. Oh, like you get to the point where you're happy with the video and he's like, "How about I add a laugh track?"

1:14:12 That is the literal worst fear of my life. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to have like who's to say even if you accidentally marry this ghost, you don't fall in love.

1:14:21 Oh, that's beautiful. That's true. I like the optimism there. You know, people are marrying everything now.

1:14:26 Yeah. People get married to like cars and [ __ ] You can marry yourself. Why not marry ghosts? It's kind of dope.

1:14:33 I'm trying to think though. It would be a really hard conversation with our girlfriends, you know, like just being like "Hey

1:14:38 you know, feel like it was an accident." Hey, we got to talk about an open relationship here.

1:14:42 We're married. What do you think about um sister wife life? Yeah, exactly. With a ghost.

1:14:47 Can we introduce a third cuz I did by accident. My bad. And how the ghost has to

1:14:54 It was a wild weekend, guys. It's kind of like a court thing actually. It is. That's actually exactly what it is.

1:15:01 Very much that. Can we ask a qu like how long are you roommates with this poltergeist trickster ghost

1:15:07 through editing season? Yeah. Once you're done editing the rest of your editing career.

1:15:13 Yeah. You just get screwed up files. That would ruin like he pops in. He's your roommate. So I guess you could like buy him out of the lease, but

1:15:21 I don't know. It'll be that easy for you. He like deletes the most important investigation every video. He's like

1:15:29 that's the thing. That's what you're That's what you're facing. He adds like old timey car horn sounds in the middle of your video.

1:15:36 Just like almost every now and again. God, I feel like apparently I already have uh you know extra ghostly friends around all the time. So I wouldn't mind you know having one in the relationship too.

1:15:48 Why not? Honestly, oh man. I mean I I would hope that when I get married it would be for life. So like I'm trying to think

1:15:57 I am not divorcing even if it's a ghost. So I think I might choose the the roommate honestly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I don't know if I'm going to be like editing until I'm like

1:16:08 dead. You know what I mean? So like that's honorable. You just deal with it for a while.

1:16:12 Yeah. Yeah. I think marriage is more important at the end of the day. Yeah. It's true.

1:16:16 That's beautiful. I respect that. I would like Sam's like okay optimism of you know

1:16:24 maybe falling in love with this. They were both beautiful answers in different ways.

1:16:28 I like them both. Real nice. I don't want another husband. No. God I like mine.

1:16:35 I like mine as well. Uh but I don't want anymore. I don't I don't edit. So never have never will.

1:16:41 I know. It would be Mikey who would really be I know. Well, back in the day you used to edit.

1:16:46 I know. I used to edit. I've never touched that [ __ ] And I know how annoying that would be to have somebody touching it.

1:16:52 I know. But now it would just be Mikey's problem. So I guess I'm going with Poltergeist. Poltergeist. Polter guys will live with Mikey and Dave. But Oh, okay. They're So they're Mikey's roommate. Yeah. Now they're Mikey's.

1:17:06 Oh god. Wow. That's pretty easy. Sorry Mikey. Just getting wrecked. Off camera. Mikey's like, "Fuck you guys."

1:17:14 Damn. Yeah, cuz I'm not getting married during a ritual. No, it's a no for me. Yeah.

1:17:18 No. Accidentally or intentionally? No. All right. So, we're going with Poltergeist. Sorry, Mikey. Love you so much.

1:17:38 Uh, so the next one is, this one's going to be hard, I think. Okay. Would you rather have Bloody Mary show up every time you say subscribe or have a demon gently bite you every time you plug merch?

1:17:54 Just Just a little love bite every time. Do we say subscribe or do we plug merch more?

1:18:01 I think we plug merch more than we ask for subscrib. That's true. You don't need as many subscribes now. You're like, but I got 15 million.

1:18:10 You know what? That's actually like that's I feel like you know what happened before you.

1:18:14 Whoa. Yeah. I So I would probably say Oh man. Actually, but what do you want to have happen?

1:18:21 Well, it's like like I'm trying to think about like how hard is So Bloody Mary's just going to show up. I don't know what she's going to do. That's the other thing. She didn't let me know what she was going to do. She's just showing up or

1:18:32 so basically like are you into stalking women or or demons who it's just a gentle bite.

1:18:42 I feel like a gentle bite is like like at least you know what's coming. You know what I mean?

1:18:47 Say finishing myself. He's like kind of nice. Like it's not breaking skin. We're just

1:18:54 Okay. It's just like a little nibble on you're like Yeah. You're just like oh by the merch. Um, yeah, I would probably do that cuz what is Bloody Mary going to do? Like that's I get the gentle bite then.

1:19:04 Gentle bite. Gently bit by a demon. I like the gentle bite, too. Gentle bite. Gentle bite.

1:19:09 It would be really cool if we started every video and we were just like, "Hey, like watch this." And you like filmed a gentle bite.

1:19:19 You were just like buy Explorer merch. And then you were like, "Look at that." Damn.

1:19:22 That's kind of like two birds, one stone, you know, cuz then every viral clip is us plugging our merch.

1:19:28 Exactly. Oh [ __ ] Smart. That's actually genius. You're like, how to get ghost to bite.

1:19:35 How to get a ghost to bite. Oh, shopexplorer.com. That's [ __ ] awesome. Gentle bite only.

1:19:42 That's so funny. That's the important part. I would take gentle bite, too, cuz I have a puppy, so I do have a demon biting me. Not that gently.

1:19:49 Wow. Yeah, you're all used to it. I'm so used I have like scars and [ __ ] at this point.

1:19:53 Dang, you put it up with it. Yeah, I would say gentle bite. I think I'm going with gentle bite because again it's a gentle bite.

1:19:59 But I I want to I kind of me wants to see what Bloody Mary is up to. That's a gamble.

1:20:06 I know. I don't know if that reckless. I'm also with you a lot, so can you not?

1:20:11 I was going to say how long she's showing up though. You know, it's like one bite. He's like boom.

1:20:16 But the subscribe could be like visiting you in your sleep. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. What if you like talk in your sleep and you're like subscribe just like there?

1:20:25 All my sleep talking is all we dream about. Like our video. You never know. Plug the merch.

1:20:34 Yeah. I think you know what? I'm going with Demon. Yeah. Cuz I I don't think me and Bloody Mary would get along very well.

1:20:41 No, she seems angry. Two strong gals. Yeah. She seems too too angry. Yeah. You know,

1:20:46 I was so scared of Bloody Mary when I was little. I still remember the first time I did it. Yeah.

1:20:50 I like screamed and ran downstairs. I got in trouble, too, which was lame. Yeah, that's stupid.

1:20:55 Yeah. I've never done it. You've never done it? I've never like I've been around people who have done it, but I refuse to do it.

1:21:02 Oh, it was like such a sleepover thing. We We absolutely should. Bloody Mary in my bathroom.

1:21:07 Let's do it in a haunted location. Oh, yeah. Next haunted location. Yeah. Yeah. Don't bring it. And then Bloody Mary.

1:21:15 Halloween party somewhere in there. itinerary deal. Maybe at the Halloween party.

1:21:21 We invite Bloody Mary to our Halloween party. Honestly, that's a draw. It is. Well, would you rather have a cursed Ouija board that will sometimes randomly spell out your most embarrassing memories for everybody?

1:21:36 Oh, embarrassing and like upsetting memories like Oh, and I added to it. I added to it

1:21:42 because this one's pretty wild. Or would you rather summon a Victorian child ghost, but that Victorian child ghost is only going to refer to you as Daddy Colby and Papa Sam?

1:21:57 Awesome. Definitely the child ghost. Are you kidding me? That is sick. Like definitely. I'd just be like I don't I think it'd be just funny honestly.

1:22:08 Like I'm not your dad. I'm not your dad. But uh but I'll be your dad. Check this out. I guess I'll be your dad.

1:22:14 You adopted a ghost child. There we go. That would be so funny. So funny. Yeah, I feel like that would be awesome to have an extra like, you know, character in the vase. Let's just

1:22:24 your ghost kid. Sam. Papa Sam. I think that's a valid choice. Are you Do you want another kid?

1:22:32 Why not? Another ghost kid. Yeah. Call you Mama Elena. Yeah, Mama Elena. All right. Why not? We'll go with it cuz I don't want my my [ __ ] spelled out in a Ouija board.

1:22:42 Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't want that cuz that mean you have to do a Ouija board with other people and so other people are just

1:22:48 you're not doing it. Your stuff like the ghost was lying. I swear that wasn't me. They're messing with

1:22:56 Yeah, I'd go I'd go ghost kid. Victorian ghost for sure. Yeah. No one needs to know those secrets, you know.

1:23:02 No, those are locked up. Mhm. All right. Would you rather spend a night alone in a pitch black asylum uh with a Ouija board or spend a night in your own bathroom, but every mirror shows a cursed clown version of yourself?

1:23:19 Oh god, I loved your reactions. And you're alone in the asylum with no one else. Just you yourself

1:23:28 with a Ouija board. With a Ouija board. The first one sounds like an intense version of our normal YouTube videos.

1:23:37 Yeah, it does. And the second one sounds like I'm gonna have nightmares forever for the rest of your life.

1:23:42 Trauma traumatic experience. So I probably Yeah, I would agree. The first one you said one night is the first.

1:23:48 Both are one night. Oh, both are one night. Okay. You have to stay in the bathroom all night

1:23:53 and just look at your mirrors are just Yeah, dude. I just feel like that's a great idea for a vid.

1:23:59 Yeah. just kind of like extreme salmon and cold. There we go. Let's do solo challenges with a Ouija board.

1:24:05 Like we're turning all this into like a business. We're like Yeah. Write that down. Do you have a pad of paper?

1:24:10 Let's do that. GM the first too. The Ouija board. All right. Yeah. Mhm. I think I would do

1:24:18 my own bathroom and probably just like not look at the mirrors. Oh, just close your eyes,

1:24:24 blindfold yourself, and just fall asleep on the floor. Yeah. I only have two mirrors, so

1:24:28 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean I didn't know you could just like not look. Yeah. I feel like maybe you have to look.

1:24:33 You have to look. Yeah. I feel like that's too easy to avoid it. A cursed clown version.

1:24:37 Maybe you have mirrors all around your room. Oh [ __ ] I just added to it. Damn. Okay.

1:24:42 I had to make it harder. I was like that. We got to make that harder. Cruel. I don't want to be in a pitch black asylum alone. At least if I'm in my bathroom. I'm in my own house, you know.

1:24:51 Yeah. Don't knock until you try it. Yeah, that's true. Alone though. Scary. But the views. I love you. Thank you. Let's do it for the likes.

1:25:02 I think I'm going bathroom. It's one night. I can do it. I want to say the asylum cuz I want to do that really bad, but I know myself and I would absolutely panic. The other night you were like, if we have to do anything, I can't go in a room by myself. Like, I will lose my mind.

1:25:16 Oh, that's awesome. And then I was like, and then when we were in there, I was like, okay, I could probably go in a room by myself. But then I was in the back going up the stairs and I almost crawled over all of you. Like I was about to like parkour above you.

1:25:27 You were like grabbing me. You were like pulling me back. It was like pitch black behind me.

1:25:32 Oh, walking at the end of a line in a pitch black area. It's the worst. And it was towards the end of the night and I think I just felt way more on edge at the end of the night. I went to grab something by myself and I was like, why the [ __ ] did I volunteer to do this?

1:25:45 Oh yeah. I was like, it's freaky. I remember it was like right at the bottom of the stairs. So I was like, I can do it. But then I was like,

1:25:53 it's scary. It's a different feeling for sure. Yeah. I literally almost scaled all of you and jumped in front of them.

1:26:02 You know, like there everything you like feel behind you, but then in front they're going so slow. It's always like go faster.

1:26:08 I felt like you guys were at a dead halt and I was like, I'm dying. Somebody's going to kill me back here. You're not moving.

1:26:15 I know. That was scary. Um, so I would say bathroom probably. Yeah. I would do bathroom.

1:26:19 Yeah. And just deal with the consequences of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've also again we've had experience being in one of these places. So, I think it would just be cool.

1:26:28 Yeah. Like been there, done that. I want to I I would do it if I was with one other person,

1:26:34 the asylum, but you're not. Just one other person would make me feel better. Yeah. I would do it with one other person too.

1:26:39 Yeah. Me alone? No. No. All right. Would you rather be locked in Waverly Hills with a spirit that mimics your best friend's voice, so probably each other's voices, or be chased through the woods by a skinwalker holding a KFC bucket and calling you dinner?

1:26:56 Oh my god, that's so sadistic. Would you rather? Oh my. Okay. Well, how did you come up with that?

1:27:06 You know what's insane? This This sounds crazy. This happened to me. He's like so many KFC buckets

1:27:13 literally all the time at paranormal locations. All the KFC bucket. Well, not KFC like specifically, but the the doppelganger sort of voice mimicking has happened to us like two or three times

1:27:24 with each other's voice me. Yes. Yes. We were in Ferrar Elementary and um it was late at night and we were done filming. I was like on the phone with my girlfriend and I could have sworn that Sam was like, "Yo." like three times like calling me because it was like super late and like voices echo in that like gym. So I thought he was just like, "Yo, get to bed." And so like I came in, I was just like, "Why were you calling me?" And he was like, "That was not me at all."

1:27:47 Oh, that's wild. I hate that a lot. I hate that the idea of mimic. Yeah. So, as much as I want like a skinwalker with KFC to chase after me, that's hilarious. I'd probably do the mimic cuz I've experienced

1:28:00 Yeah. You've done it before. Uhhuh. Mhm. The mimic is really scary. We've had that happen at the conjuring house before. Some other places as well where we just hear each other's voices or like EVPs will sound like our voices.

1:28:13 Sometimes like we'll have uh on the spirit box, you know, like the things that like the SS method type of stuff like the the voices that come through the radio sound like us and each other and it's like so scary.

1:28:24 Super strange. That's scary. There was like a really scary um time in the Conjuring house uh that like we were sitting on a couch just doing research and um I forgot exactly what I said, but like I said a word and it repeated it back to me like it sounded like it was coming from like outside or whatever and and it happened on camera by the way. So we have it all filmed. We posted everything like where I'm like yo and it's like yo or something like back to me um multiple times and then I say it in the same like amount of volume. I try it louder. I try it softer or whatever and then the echo just stops

1:29:01 in the same direction. Three or four times before it stopped. Yeah. Like it was like coming back multiple times and later that same week cuz we stayed a week at the conjuring house. Damn.

1:29:10 I I heard the same type of voice in the basement when I was alone. Kobe was not even in the house

1:29:15 and I just heard like his voice like ring and it was like, "Oh, what?" Like he's he's back. No, he's out in the woods.

1:29:23 It was insane. Yeah, that's mimics. Mimics are really scary. Well, cuz they also feel like very diabolical cuz they're like trying to draw you in and it's like why?

1:29:33 Well, most people believe that like mimics are like evil spirits. Yeah, for sure. I've had an experience in this house where I

1:29:40 I was in the bathroom and I was walking out and I saw Elena like in the doorway and I went to say something to her and then she was gone and I came in here and she was sitting right there. She's always sitting right there and I literally I was like were you just in the bathroom and she was like no like you were just in the bathroom right here. I was like, "What?"

1:29:58 And you saw I was like she wide. I was like, "No, I just saw you." Oh my god. And Mikey's experienced it too. Like he's seen her in like a like out of the corner of his eye or like in a doorway somewhere and then she'll like appear and he's like, "Were you just there?" And she's like, "No,

1:30:12 that's so scary. Really terrifying." Yeah. And I don't know why you just showing up everywhere.

1:30:16 I've been trying to figure it out. You're in three places at once. It's crazy. I'm doing the most. Let's go.

1:30:20 I'm like, damn. Yeah. I don't know why. It's scary. It's freaky. I mean, maybe in this case it's like residual energy or something cuz this is your house.

1:30:28 Yeah. So, I mean, it felt [ __ ] weird. So, I don't know. I don't like It's just sinister that they'll disguise themselves as people you love or know, best friends, whatever. It's crazy.

1:30:38 Yeah. It's really scary. I know cuz I've seen these like videos. I don't know which ones are true or not, but where they'll hear people like outside their door

1:30:46 like speaking like someone they know and being like, "Open the door. I'm outside." There's a whole like you know series about that thing. I don't know what it's called.

1:30:57 I would never recover. Yeah. The one that we saw in particular and it was like the girl thought it was her mom.

1:31:03 Oh yeah. And then she the like guttural noise that she makes. She like screams or something.

1:31:08 Yeah. Cuz I think she says like you're not my mom. And it starts to make this like horrible sound on the other side of the door that like ruined me.

1:31:17 Oh my goosebumps have goosebumps. I want to pull it up later. We should show it to you.

1:31:21 So scary. Horrible. It was wild. Wait, there's a video of this. Yeah. Oh my god.

1:31:42 Oh my god. God, I [ __ ] hate it so much. Isn't that She said she called her neighbor for help.

1:31:53 Every time they really close. Oh, I hate that so much. I love I hate it. Yeah. So scary. Even if it's not real. Great acting.

1:32:03 I would not open that door. I would jump out the window probably down. So scary.

1:32:10 I hate that. So that's disgusting. Yeah, it is disgusting. It really is. That's a burn your house type.

1:32:17 Yeah. Yeah. That's over. All right. Um, so next, would you rather Yeah. Would you after that?

1:32:24 Anyway, would you rather wake up every morning with a new cryptic symbol tattooed on your arm by ghosts

1:32:30 or be cursed so that every mirror shows your future funeral? Oh god, that's so dark.

1:32:39 Yeah. Every day you get a new tattoo. Yeah, we who knows how big it is. Every morning.

1:32:47 It's a cryptic symbol. Yeah. Whoa. You got free tats. It's true. Hopefully they're good artists.

1:32:53 Hopefully. Yeah, that's the thing that would freak me out. Yeah. What if they're shitty?

1:32:56 Yeah. I was going to say, what's the worst? Like I have dreams all the time where I got like a horrible tattoo and I'm like, what do I do?

1:33:04 Imagine trying to explain that to your friends though. Like you wake up and you're just like, I swear demons are like this. Like they're like, "Okay,

1:33:12 but seeing like your funeral, that's like so mentally messed up." You guys are sadistic.

1:33:20 You guys are [ __ ] up for this. I kind of want to see my funeral to be like, "Who came?"

1:33:26 Who's there? You know what? Then if you saw it every day, you could see who your real friends are.

1:33:30 Yeah, that's actually kind of like a great tool. If things change, you all of a sudden see somebody not there. You can edit your funeral plans. Like, no, everybody looks like [ __ ] How about you wear this? I know.

1:33:40 True. Yeah. This kind of looks a little lame. Let's get a DJ up in here. Something like that.

1:33:44 Get a better bomber. I look like [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like it would be like a constant like reminder that you're going to die like eventually. And so it's like just

1:33:54 I mean it's like a good perspective thing. So like you're like better live today well

1:34:00 bar or whatever and you're just like having a great time. you're looking you're like

1:34:03 and you're like going to die everybody. But like with the tattoo thing, you can become like an experiment in a way. I'm thinking business.

1:34:14 Yeah. And like you could just be like you be like, "Hey government, like check this out." Like like keep me in like a lab or whatever and watch what happens to me every single day.

1:34:23 Yeah. You want to get the government involved. That's a good point too. That's that is brave. That is a good point.

1:34:29 You want the government to lock you in a lab. Yeah. I don't know about that. This will never leave.

1:34:34 I just You run your own experiments. YouTube for views. Views. Not the government.

1:34:41 Never the government. If I could profit off of it on YouTube. Yeah. Always be clos

1:34:49 funny. Yeah. All right. So, you're going I think I'm going to do tattoo. I'm doing funeral. I think about my death all all the time anyway.

1:34:58 Yeah. I'm I'm doing funeral. I mean, I love tattoos, but you only see the same artist.

1:35:02 I know. I'm not a demon. That's true. He's not a demon. His name is Matt. He's not a demon.

1:35:08 Sorry. Hey, Matt. Uh, yeah. I would say the funeral cuz I also always think about my own death. And I assume

1:35:16 I'm one of those people that's like, you might die tomorrow, so like do that thing. And I tell everybody else about that.

1:35:21 Eat that cupcake. Eat that cupcake. I I guess you could avoid mirrors. That's true.

1:35:25 Yeah, you could. You could. You'd run into them every I don't look in mirrors a lot anyway.

1:35:30 Yeah. Not like every time in the It would be like a morning thing where I like start my day being like, "Oh, mortality." And then it would just be like

1:35:40 I could avoid it would be kind of weird like doing your makeup. Oh, driving. You have to look in mirrors a lot driving.

1:35:47 You see your funeral every time you're in the car. You're like, "Oh god, is this lanes are not the same?"

1:35:54 Or does does cameras count too? Like if you're looking at your phone any reflection probably.

1:36:00 I can't I feel like we can't do any reflection. That's going to We're going too. Yeah. I think your bathroom your bathroom mirror.

1:36:06 Bathroom mirror. Only bathroom. Not the rear view mirror of the car. If it's only dangerous.

1:36:12 Okay. Then I'm switching my answer as well. I think I would just like come up with a routine like get ready every day kind of like expect like I'm going to see my funeral and then just you would get used to it.

1:36:21 You're going to be a part of your mortality for a minute. That's a good point. every day. Yeah.

1:36:27 That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. The tattoos I feel like could I get wy I'm a control freak and I need to pick my own tattoos.

1:36:33 Oh yeah. Yeah. And I feel bad going to Matt later and being like I'm so sorry. Can you fix this one?

1:36:41 Yeah. So yeah. So we have two more. First one is would you rather hear a demon whisper your name every night at 3:33 a.m.

1:36:50 Exactly. Or have a Victorian ghost lady follow you into every bathroom you enter.

1:36:57 Oh my god. Intrusive. That is intrusive. Both are pretty intrusive, honestly. Probably the Victorian lady.

1:37:04 Really? I did not expect that. Really? I mean, I just feel like would I'm thinking like long term here with like the demon.

1:37:13 Well, first of all, can you wear headphones when you're sleeping and then kind of like cancel it out?

1:37:16 Nah. Okay. You never know. Does your wife or husband like hear? No, they're fine.

1:37:22 It's just you. So they don't You're the one that has to live with it. Yeah. I was going to say

1:37:26 it's your problem. It's your problem. Interrupted sleep or interrupted bathrooms.

1:37:32 So is she like watching you while you're doing your business? I feel like she is. I feel like she's not modest.

1:37:37 She's like, "You should light a candle." She's like, "What'd you eat?" You know?

1:37:42 Oh man. I mean, that's more of like her problem, you know? Like that's my problem. Well, the demon is my problem.

1:37:49 Really comfortable with her and be like, "Yeah, wash this one, bro." Can you hand me some paper towel?

1:37:54 Technically, wash my hands. If she wasn't able to like communicate with anybody else, it's kind of like,

1:37:59 how do you know that's not happen to you like right now? Like, yeah. Like, that's your little thing.

1:38:03 Yeah. You know what I mean? With her. Yeah. Mhm. I would share that moment with Victoria and that would be her problem. And I would just be like, "Sucks for you." But then if I'm sleeping and there's something in my ear every single night, that sucks for me. I'm waking up every night.

1:38:15 Interrupted sleep. Mhm. I mean, I kind of agree. Instead of scrolling TikTok, you're like

1:38:20 talking to a ghost chatting her up. Yeah, it's kind of cool. Yeah, you're just talking like someone walks in and you're like talking to yourself like

1:38:31 throwing ideas to her crazy [ __ ] You know what? That does kind of sound nice.

1:38:37 I do the ghost lady. Yeah. I don't want to be Is ours a ghost lady or is it a ghost man though?

1:38:42 No, ours is a ghost lady. The question was ghost lady. Oh, ghost lady. Sure. Yeah, totally.

1:38:47 Ghost man. No. No. Throw that out of there. Yeah. Ghost lady. I just be like, "All right, girl. Hey, girl. Yeah, let's talk about stuff."

1:38:55 Mhm. I like that. I love it. Yeah. That's an easy one cuz I don't want my name's whispered in the middle of the night. Children all the time. So,

1:39:03 you don't need someone else. Yeah. Uh, so the next one is, would you rather get trapped in a haunted mirror dimension with a ghost version of yourself?

1:39:12 Whoa. A haunted mirror dimension. That's good. Have a poltergeist that only like forever that only communicates with you by throwing tacos at your head.

1:39:23 That's awesome. Free tacos. I would love that, right? I feel like just wear a helmet everywhere you go.

1:39:31 Try to grab. Thank you. Imagine how viral that is if like four or five times throughout every YouTube video we just get a tacos. It's

1:39:41 like where did that come from? If it's is it like hard shell or soft? You can choose. Whatever your preference is.

1:39:46 I think you would be able to talk to them and bey five layer burrito, bro. Oh, down for that. Yeah. Talk about

1:39:52 throw some nachos. Yeah. But if it's like hard shell, I feel like that could like poke out your eyes.

1:39:57 Yeah, that could get that could get uh dangerous. Get ugly and messy, I feel. Yeah, it's looking messy.

1:40:03 Yeah, I would do the like a soft shell beefy five layer burrito from Taco Bell.

1:40:07 Oh, damn. I'm a little choosy here. [ __ ] That was kind of crazy. We'll have to fight about this.

1:40:13 I'm like, are we ordering that after? Yeah. Yeah, we are. Now, we're at Taco Bell today.

1:40:16 And it'll be thrown right at our face. I would definitely choose the tacos. Oh, yeah. I love tacos

1:40:23 big time. I'm a Yeah, big taco people. So, I'd be like, talk to me all the time. Let's go.

1:40:27 Yeah. Violently. I know. Unless he's like humming it at your head. I know. What if it ruined tacos for you?

1:40:34 Could anything ruin tacos for you? That could. That could. What's the other option? trapped in a

1:40:39 stuck in a mirror dimension with your ghost self. For how long? For a week. A week.

1:40:44 It's not that bad. Mr. Beast challenge. Continue. I feel like Mr. Beast would somehow like in the future come up with that challenge. You're getting trapped here for a week.

1:40:53 You're inside the mirror with a ghost version of yourself. I might do a ghost version of myself. I feel like you could learn a lot in that instance.

1:41:01 That's true. And then I could continue just having tacos when I want to. At your leisure. At my leisure.

1:41:07 Yeah. Yeah, a ghost version of yourself could be cool. Yeah, maybe yourself. What if they're an [ __ ]

1:41:13 Well, they're you. So, and then you're stuck there for a week with an [ __ ] Are you an [ __ ]

1:41:17 that looks like you sometimes? Not to yourself. We're changing it. The mirror version of yourself is the [ __ ] version of yourself.

1:41:24 Is the [ __ ] version. It's like the bad part of you. Yeah. Oh, you're living with the bad part of you.

1:41:30 Oo, that's scary. You have to come to terms with the negative side of a lot. Maybe that's like a therapy session, though. That is kind of like a therapy session.

1:41:36 Therapy, I feel. I'm sticking with that. I think that that'd be a cool experience.

1:41:40 Might come out a better person. Mhm. Yeah. We don't know how hard the tacos are hurting your face.

1:41:44 We don't know. And we love tacos, so we don't want them ruined. Uhhuh. And you don't know when they like materialize in the air. Like if they just materialize as they're coming at you.

1:41:55 I don't eat in my bed, so I don't want tacos on my bed. I don't want that. That's very true.

1:42:00 Yeah. You're driving, you just get smacked in the head with tacos. That's dangerous. You're like, "Oh god."

1:42:05 Trying to take your everything shower. You have like the music on and everything's nice and calm and then like a giant burrito hits you in the face.

1:42:12 Terrible. Right after you finish your shower and then boom, and you have to go back in the shower and you're like, "God,

1:42:19 you just washed your hair and you get like queso in your hair." No. No. That'd be awful. Or like right after you blow dry your hair.

1:42:26 No. No. Mirror dimension. I'm I'm facing the shitty version of myself. So, are we all doing shitty version of ourselves? Yeah,

1:42:34 I was going to go for the taco. You're still doing tacos. Even after all that, you're take another shower.

1:42:39 You may kiss the bride like taco in the face. Taco in the face. Like you just start getting to the point where you're like catching them in your mouth.

1:42:45 I know. Got to get them gains. I like it. So, we got three mirror dimensions. One taco.

1:42:52 I'm a taco demon. All right. All right. We'll just take your tacos. True. You know, I'll share. Perfect. I could feed the homeless.

1:43:01 Ow. Here we go. Nice. tacos wherever you go. Oh, here you go. That's great. All right.

1:43:08 I think we learned a lot. I think we did. We definitely did. We We know ourselves much better than each other.

1:43:14 Yeah. Um, so let's do the two truths and a lie ghost edition. You guys are going to tell us two truths and a lie.

1:43:21 Okay. Um, so I'm just going to be looking straight here so you can't look at my eyes.

1:43:26 I know. I'm not ready. Poker face. Yeah. Seriously. Um, one time I went to the Velisa Axe murder house and um, during like one of the last investigations, there was a spirit that tugged on the back of my crew neck that I was wearing and it scared me and made my eyes tear up instantly and um, yeah, was one of the only times that's ever happened where I've I've felt like a physical sort of touch like that.

1:43:51 Holy [ __ ] Um, another time I was in a spot called Bowowers Mansion. It was in Texas and I was speaking out to a ghost named Bernard who was known specifically to slam doors. Um, and a after I asked him to directly slam a door, it happened in front of my face. Um, and I instantly also broke out into tears, but this time down like my face. And it was one of the most traumatic jump scares I've had in my entire life.

1:44:18 Damn. Um, these are all convincing so far. I know. Holy [ __ ] And then when I stayed in a week in the the conjuring house, I was forced to stay in the basement on the last night and uh was uncontrollably sobbing the entire time um until Sam was able to get me out at 5:00 a.m.

1:44:35 Oh, so terrifying and real. Mhm. And they all involve crying. Yep. Oh, that's true. They do.

1:44:42 He cries a lot. Hey, what's your what's your astrological sign? Oh, Capricorn. That's weird that you cry a lot.

1:44:50 I don't cry that much, guys. Those are like options. Okay. All right. It takes like ghostly intervention for you to cry.

1:44:58 Exactly. That's what it would take for me to cry for sure. I think the last one is a lie cuz I think that was Sam.

1:45:05 Okay. What do you think? Um, do you know something? Am I you working off of Intel?

1:45:11 No, I'm not actually working off of Intel, but I'm working off like a possible memory of something I saw online.

1:45:17 Oh, okay. I didn't see any full videos or anything, but I remember when you guys were teasing it. Wait a second.

1:45:22 I'm not going to pick that just to be different. Okay, I'm going with Bernard. Okay,

1:45:27 the second one. Tell us. You were right. You were right. It was you, right? I was not in the I went to the basement one time, but I didn't cry.

1:45:37 I don't cry every single time. That was me in the basement crying till 5:00 a.m.

1:45:41 Holy [ __ ] Wasn't it something where like you saw your grandma, right? Yeah. House. That's crazy.

1:45:47 In the basement. Um, it was that that was the reason why I was crying, but that was earlier in the week. I did go in the basement till 5:00 a.m. and it was really really terrifying.

1:45:55 And you cried because it was so scary. Not in the basement. I just made that part up.

1:46:00 But he Yeah, he had an experience in the living room. Mhm. The basement in the middle of the night till 5:00 a.m. was where I heard Kobe's voice, the mimic that I was kind of describing earlier on the podcast where he was outside actually and like in the forest and I was like,

1:46:13 "Holy [ __ ] hearing his voice call out when I was like alone." It was really, really creepy.

1:46:18 Oh my god. We haven't been to the Conjuring House yet. I really want to go. I want to go so badly.

1:46:24 You guys have to go. I was supposed to go. I know. My husband actually got me like he knows me very well for our anniversary. He was like, "We're going to go on a tour of the Conjuring."

1:46:33 Oh, that's cool. And there was like supposed to be a medium there and it was going to be really And I think he got sick right before and we weren't able to go.

1:46:40 And I think he got vertigo, too. He gets vertigo and it like knocks him down for like a week.

1:46:44 Oh, damn. It was weird, but he got vertigo that day. We weren't meant to go. So, you guys got to go.

1:46:50 I know. Cuz it's not far from us. Yeah. The Conjuring House is actually going up for auction on on this Halloween.

1:46:56 Really? Yeah. The last owner um is Yeah. No longer like a part of it. And so, they're like literally selling the house.

1:47:04 Oh my god. [ __ ] So, did Wait, did Matt Refe not buy it? Uh it's up for auction. He wants to. He's going to be in the bidding, I'm sure.

1:47:10 Okay, I see. Yeah. Matt Refe just recently bought the Annabel doll. Yeah. In the War Museum. in the war museum. So that's like a different thing. But this kind

1:47:18 Annabelle was missing. The same the same Annabelle they they took on like tour and then Yeah. allegedly went like missing.

1:47:26 Yeah. But then it but then they got her. Yeah. They found her. Yeah. It was all kind of like a hoax though. Like the fact that she went missing. It was kind of blown out of proportion. She went on tour and then like

1:47:36 because she wasn't at the house where she was missing. Well, she wasn't missing. She was on tour.

1:47:41 She was kept busy. She went to like New Orleans like people were just blowing. She was filming for me.

1:47:47 She was that possessed doll, you know. Yeah, she was the B cam down the hallway aiming at a

1:47:52 corner footage. Oh, we have to go. I know. Serena and Kin have gone there. Yeah, they had crazy stuff. They did like the SDS method there. Some like really crazy things.

1:48:04 Yeah, you guys have to check out Two Girls, One Ghost. I think you would like them. They're like super spooky paranormal stuff.

1:48:09 Sounds goodies. Yeah, we love them. All right, for sure. Yeah, we'll do. All right, Sam, you're up.

1:48:15 Okay, I got it. So, I'm also going to look at the uh the coffee. Okay, sure. All right. There's been a paranormal story of a ghost who caused a disease that actually ended up becoming a virus that a lot of people got. There has been a confirmed death by a ghost. And there has been an Illuminati cave that turned to be haunted.

1:48:45 All right, we know the middle one is true cuz we covered that case. Yeah. [ __ ]

1:48:51 But we still have two to work with. What was the first one? It was the virus. The virus

1:48:57 and then an Illuminati cave that was haunted. Mhm. I'm going with Illuminati cave.

1:49:02 I am too cuz that's like I feel like that's a conspiracy. Um, it's the first one.

1:49:09 Oh, I almost virus. No, no ghosty. I almost an Illuminati cave. Yeah. It's called Hellfire Caves in uh England.

1:49:19 In England. Yeah. It's basically the Illuminati of We did cover that. This thing.

1:49:23 Oh, you guys know that going down there doing stuff. Damn. Yeah, I covered it on because it's um like the Hellfire Club.

1:49:32 Hellfire Club. Oh. Oh, I do remember that now. Damn it. They did a bunch of satanic rituals down in there and then it ended up becoming really haunted.

1:49:41 Yeah. What are the odds you picked two cases we covered tricked and I didn't remember the one that I covered. I mean, that's a lot of cases in our lives.

1:49:48 It was forgot you guys were the experts. I guess not. Oh, my gut was saying the virus, too, and I didn't go with it.

1:49:54 Ah, go with your gut. It felt believable. Yeah. Good job. Thank you. Well done.

1:49:59 Let's go. Well done. All right. Well, we're going to move on to recording our next episode. If there's anything you guys want to plug,

1:50:07 yes, that plug away. Hell Week's coming in October. Our biggest series of the year launches on October 5th.

1:50:15 Oo. And the finale, this is going to be an exclusive for your guys' podcast. Okay.

1:50:21 Um, so for our Halloween finale, it just has to do with a really famous movie. I think it's the most famous horror movie that's happened recently.

1:50:32 Most like in the past month that's happened recently. The most famous horror movie we were able to get to go investigate.

1:50:41 Everyone at home will know. But maybe you guys aren't horror movie fans. We are horror movie right now.

1:50:49 There's been so many. I know. I'm trying to think of you. Tell us off camera. Yeah, of course. Of course.

1:50:53 Okay. I'm probably going to feel stupid afterwards. No, I will. It has recently become the number one horror movie to hit any box office.

1:51:01 Damn. So, that's pretty cool. Anyway, I'm excited. That's so cool. Halloween. Yeah.

1:51:06 Thank you for giving that exclusive on Morbid. Of course. Of course. I'm so excited.

1:51:12 Anything else you guys have want to plug? Thanks for having us on. We love hanging out with you guys.

1:51:16 Thanks for coming. So, thank you guys so much for listening. We hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird. But not so weird that you don't go check out Sam and Coy's YouTube videos.

1:51:29 Thank you. Thank you.

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Who speaks in "Episode 711: Dialing the Dead- A Seance with Sam & Colby"?

Elena (Host), Ash (Host), Sam (Guest), Colby (Guest).

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In this fun and lively discussion, hosts Elena and Ash welcome YouTube stars Sam and Colby to explore exciting spooky themes as they gear up for Halloween. The conversation includes playful banter about seasonal activities, like apple picking, and the group's unique take on embracing October before the month officially begins, dubbed "Proctober."

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