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Episode 711: Dialing the Dead- A Seance with Sam & Colby

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Episode 711: Dialing the Dead- A Seance with Sam & Colby", an episode of Morbid | Podcast published November 1, 2025 (1 h 53 min, about 25,036 words). It mentions 54 people, works and ideas, including Ouija board, Ectoplasm, Conjuring House, Sam and Colby, USS Salem.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Escape Hotel, Hollywood Boulevard, Hot Topic, Longhorn Steakhouse
  2. – 20:00: Exploring with Josh, Harry Potter, Hell House LLC, USS Salem
  3. – 40:00: Paris Catacombs, Sabrina, Two Girls One Ghost, USS Salem
  4. – 50:00: Cataphiles, Ectoplasm, Harry Houdini, Nightscape
  5. – 1:00:00: Ectoplasm
  6. – 1:10:00: Cold reading, Nicholas, Ouija board, Philip Caputo
  7. – 1:20:00: Ghost Tube, Nicholas, ShopExplore.com
  8. – 1:30:00: Ouija board, Conjuring House, Skinwalker, Victorian child ghost
  9. – 1:50:00: Conjuring House, Estes Method, Two Girls One Ghost
  10. – 1:52:49: Hellfire Caves, Hellfire Club

Notable quotes from "Episode 711: Dialing the Dead- A Seance with Sam & Colby"

  • We have special guests Sam and Colby from You might know them from YouTube.
    about Sam and Colby · at
  • Yeah, we got inspired from our USS Salem trip.
    about USS Salem · at
  • Second, but when we went to Lizzie Bordon, we were all sitting. We were with Karen and Sabrina from Two Girls One Ghost and we were sitting in the kitchen or like the dining room. That's where we were.
    about Two Girls One Ghost · at
  • That scares me the absolute most is a upcoming video that we have. It's we went to the Paris Catacombs.
    about Paris Catacombs · at
  • I'm really I'm dipping more into to these things. I agreed I'll do like a Ouija board now and stuff.
    about Ouija board · at
  • Yeah. Big time. Big time. So, I'm going to start with possibly the craziest one that we saw. the ectoplasm of it all. So, mediums in the early 1900s, the ectoplasm. So, mediums in the early 1900s said basically when ectoplasm.
    about Ectoplasm · at
  • Yeah, for sure. we do. Nicholas.
    about Nicholas · at
  • The mimic is really scary. We've had that happen at the conjuring house before some other places as well where we just hear each other's voices or like EVPs will sound like our voices.
    about Conjuring House · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Exploring with Josh — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Last story, like our buddy exploring with Josh, he was filming a video there, so it's on his channel, but there's an intercom that goes like around the entire building that the principal.
  • Sabrina — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Second, but when we went to Lizzie Bordon, we were all sitting. We were with Karen and Sabrina from Two Girls One Ghost and we were sitting in the kitchen or like the dining room. That's where we were.
  • Nightscape — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah, shout out Nightscape I believe his name was.
  • Harry Houdini — Person · 1 mention · first at
    They So, Harry Houdini was a huge skeptic of this practice. And he called out mediums and basically how they got to getting the ectopplasm to come out.
  • Philip Caputo — Person · 1 mention · first at
  • Adolf Ash — Person · 1 mention
  • Charles Richet — Person · 1 mention
  • Lizzie Borden — Person · 1 mention
  • Martha (Eva C / Eva Carrière) — Person · 1 mention
  • Matt Rife — Person · 1 mention
  • Sally Jessy Raphael — Person · 1 mention
  • Sylvia Browne — Person · 1 mention
  • Zach Bagans — Person · 1 mention

Books & papers

  • Harry Potter — Book · 1 mention · first at
    Full on shadow figures we've seen like footsteps you almost like I you guys seen Harry Potter like that map that sees people like walk yeah like literally things like that like…
  • Hell House LLC — Book · 1 mention · first at
    Oh, that's so cool though. It reminds me of like I don't know if you guys have seen Hell House LLC.
  • The Descent — Book · 1 mention · first at
    The Descent. Have you ever seen that where they go like cave dive? Oh, you got to watch.
  • As Above So Below — Book · 1 mention
  • Bible — Book · 1 mention

Companies & orgs

  • Sam and Colby — Company · 2 mentions · first at
  • Two Girls One Ghost — Company · 2 mentions · first at
  • Longhorn Steakhouse — Company · 1 mention · first at
  • Hot Topic — Company · 1 mention · first at
    So we had been there in the past. We actually got invited by Hot Topic to do a photo shoot there.
  • Escape Hotel — Company · 1 mention · first at
    It's at the a venue or like a spot called the Escape Hotel. And so it's like a just a giant like Yeah. venue. It has like a stage and everything. There's people that perform. It's like a bar on top and stuff and it has a super like.
  • Hellfire Club — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah, I covered it on cuz it's like the Hellfire Club.
  • KFC — Company · 1 mention
  • Morbid Podcast — Company · 1 mention
  • Warren's Occult Museum — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

  • Ouija board — Product · 7 mentions · first at
  • Ghost Tube — Product · 1 mention · first at
    Oh, we do. Yeah. When we do our listener tail episodes, we do Ghost Tube and there's a ghost Nicholas who like [ __ ] with us while we record them. He just like has things to say about the listener.
  • Annabelle doll — Product · 1 mention
  • Spirit trumpet — Product · 1 mention
  • Vine — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

  • Ectoplasm — Concept · 6 mentions · first at
  • Nicholas — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • Skinwalker — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
    Probably each other's voices, or be chased through the woods by a skinwalker holding a KFC bucket and calling you dinner? Oh my god, that's so sadistic. Would you rather? Oh my.
  • Cataphiles — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Huh. And then there's these people that like live down there called cataphiles and they like steal your map and your flashlight and just so obsessed with that idea.
  • Victorian era seance — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    So, just a couple of like interesting like Victorian era seance.
  • Cold reading — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah, that was a really good cold reading and stuff like that.
  • Victorian child ghost — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Because this one's pretty wild. Or would you rather summon a Victorian child ghost, but that Victorian child ghost is only going to refer to you as Daddy Colby and Papa Sam? Awesome.
  • Estes Method — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    I know. We have gone there. Yeah, they had crazy stuff. They did like the Estes method there. Some like really crazy things.
  • Blockhead (paranormal) — Concept · 1 mention
  • Mentalism — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

Sponsors

  • ShopExplore.com — Sponsor · 1 mention · first at
    How to get a ghost to bite. Oh, shopexplore.com. That's [ __ ] awesome.

Full transcript with timestamps

Hey weirdos. I'm Elena. I'm Ash. I'm Sam. And I'm Colobby. And this is a very special Morbid.

We have special guests Sam and Colby from You might know them from YouTube. Maybe.

And unless you're old like me. And when I found their video for the first time, I was like, "Guys, you have to watch this like YouTube channel."

Thank you so much. So funny. Their names are Sam and Kobe. And our listeners were like,

"Yeah, Elena. They've been around for like a hundred thousand years. 100 million zillion followers and I was like, "Wow."

Well, thank you for having us. Good to be back for being here. Good to have you in our real podcast.

Not that bank that we were in that we were all sweating in last time. This is a beautiful studio.

Thank you. We've really, you know, we've added to it. We made it a little more plush and cozy.

Got the spooky vibes for some haunted October. Hell yeah. Stories. Hell yeah. What were we calling it? cuz it's pre-occtober now. Oh, I'm calling it Proctober. So, we were saying proctober. So, we're saying goody proctober.

Yeah. No one needs September. It's Proctober. It know what we're doing around here.

It's no longer September. It's goody proctober. Yep. That's the end. The TM. Don't question it.

No one really likes September. It's just all about October. Yeah, cuz everybody's just waiting for October. Exactly. Have the leaves changed yet? Like, come on.

Let's pick some apples. Let's go. Let's get to it. Yeah. Are you an apple picker? I love picking.

Wait, I love that that's like a classic. Like, are you an apple picker? Have you guys gone apple picking?

Never. [ __ ] up. You're missing. Why did we not take you apple picking? Okay, we're adding that to the itinerary next time we hang out.

Okay, let's do it. We have to never picked an apple. That's like a New England thing we take for granted, I think.

Yeah, I was going to say driving out here in New England, I was like, this is a whole different world. Like, you are in the forests. Like, it's crazy.

Yeah. I mean, you went to a Longhorn for the first time. We did. So, and we collectively got that Longhorn.

We did. We were all in that Longhorn. What? Rephrase that. We ate at Longhorn steakhouse. Everyone at home to clarify.

It's a steak place. Yeah. Restaurant. It's very cowboy themed. It was It was a wild ride. It really was. But yeah, we need to take you apple picking. It's an experience. You got your apple cider donuts.

Oh, this is getting me so excited for like all the holidays. Pumpkin patches. Hell yeah.

Okay, so you do do pumpkin patches. We do pumpkin patches and we do an annual Halloween party. So stoked.

Every single year you guys are invited. 10 years. Thank you. You guys want to come? We'll

fly out for it. Fly out. Go for a razor. Iconic on LA in like October is insane. There's like a hundred costume parties like all the time. People go all out. I've never seen anything like it.

It's the only like social time of the year for LA for some reason. It's like everybody hides in their home like all year and then Halloween happens in like all of October. It's a party after party

and you can like hide in a costume. We prep our costumes months in advance. Set up. We have at least five. It's like crazy.

Really fun. So, is it just like the one party or do you do like a ton of dressing up? I mean, there's a lot of other parties, but we do our annual Halloween party as like one big event at the end of October, which is a celebration of our end of like season cuz for us, October is like our Super Bowl.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, perfect sense. Yeah, I would assume too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know. October now that I'm a mom has become like cuz I'm obsessed with making my kids costumes from scratch. No matter what they are,

I will not buy a costume. She makes sick costumes, too. They sew them on everything.

I like learned how to sew for that. What have you made before? Like what's your favorite one?

So I made when they were little one of my twins wanted to be the moon and I was like cutest thing ever. We'll show you pictures after.

Yeah. She was like, I want to be the moon. And I think she was like two or three. And I was like, all right, how do I make this so it's not just like the moon?

And it was I like made like a plushy moon that her face fit into. So, she was like the crescent moon and then there was a bunch of like ribbons coming down from it. It was

That's really cool. Very proud of that one. What was your other What was the other galaxy?

We've done Oh, she was an owl. Yeah, she was an owl. That was a cute one. We're doing K-pop demon hunters this year though.

Okay, that's huge. I had to make a roomie costume, so now I'm making like spangly outfits.

There we go. There we go. Yeah. We need you to make ours like this. Tell me what you want to be.

I have an entire like craft room downstairs that's just all like costume making things now at this point.

That's sick. I love how serious you guys like take Halloween. I take it so seriously.

Yeah. From like birth essentially. And I know there's going to be a time where they're eventually going to be like, "Mom, I don't want you to make my costume anymore."

Like what do you mean? I'm insulted. But yeah, but yeah, next time you're coming apple picking so that you can bake an apple pie with fresh apple picked off the tree.

Apple picking 100% down. And then you guys come to the Halloween party after we go

pick and then go to a rager. There we go. Love it. We show you ours and then we exactly two different worlds collide.

We swap Halloweens. There we go. I love that. Well, honestly, everybody probably knows who you are and probably knows your YouTube channel. You have like nearly 15 million subscribers. Am I correct?

Something like that. Yeah, getting close. That's absolutely insane. That's wild. Wild. How many years have you have you been at it?

Um, we started our YouTube channel in 2014, I believe. So, 11 years. Years. Wow. That's the year I graduated high school. Holy [ __ ]

That's crazy that that's 11 years. That's insane. It's It's been a wild ride for sure. But we've been only doing like the haunted stuff for about five, six years.

Yeah. Oh, [snorts] okay. So, what did you start off as? So, at first we were starting on Vine. We did a bunch of like comedy videos and stuff like that.

Vine. Exactly. I loved Vine. It was amazing. We did like public pranks like back in the day. So, we like run around in Walmart and like get on the intercoms and stuff like that.

during our high school. Exactly. 6 seconds. Then we moved to like YouTube and we started doing like all of like the tags and like I don't know if you remember 2015 2016 YouTube where there's like like boyfriend girlfriend tags like question answers things like that all over the internet all over YouTube. We were doing like a lot of those types of videos but ultimately decided to like do what we loved which was going to abandoned places.

Fun. We grew up in Kansas City and um on the weekends there was not much to do besides like go and exploring abandoned places with your friends. And so we just decided to to film that out in uh LA when we were trying to figure out exactly what we wanted to like genuinely do. Um and then that naturally led us into Haunted. Now we're here.

Makes sense. It feels right. Yeah. It feels like you were made to do this. It really does.

Exactly. And you guys have an escape room now. We do. Yeah. just opened up on uh Hollywood Boulevard, which is insane.

Sad. Wild to like think about. Yeah, that's crazy. I remember visiting Los Angeles in 2014, like 6 months after we started being, dang, one day like we got to move here and like walking around Hollywood Boulevard being like, "Dang, this would be so cool." And now we have an escape room on Hollywood Boulevard and it's like

it's a big full circle moment. Yeah, for sure. Seriously, I love an escape room.

I know. How did that idea come about? Um, so we had been there in the past. We actually got uh invited by Hot Topic to do a photo shoot there.

Amazing. I love that. It's at the a venue or like a spot called the Escape Hotel. And so it's like a just a giant like Yeah. venue. It has like a stage and everything. There's people that perform. It's like a bar on top and stuff and it has a super like creepy ambient vibe uh to it. And so like when we went there to shoot u we met like the managers then our management got in contact with theirs and we came up with the idea. And it took took a little bit of time, but we um we finally got it like this past like 6 months and it's been amazing.

That's so cool. We've been really interested in trying to go like in person with a lot of these types of events because I think a big part of why people watch our videos is they feel like they are coming on these adventures with us. And so we're like, okay, like how can we actually give people some sort of adventure, some sort of like story. So between the escape room and like the year before, we opened up a uh a haunted venue. We bought a haunted venue called for our school in Iowa and like so we're trying to like over over the course of the time just like get people in person and like how do you actually give this experience to people and it's [snorts] been really an interesting ride for sure.

That's such a cool idea. That's such a perfect way to connect with your audience too cuz it's like a perfect combo of everything cuz I feel like even people who are like

a little hesitant to do like haunted things and are scared. I feel like an escape room is like a safe way to still have like the

I love escape room. I don't know why you guys So good. I haven't done one since like [clears throat] middle school, but I want to go to one.

You just did one. We do them so much because I'm so competitive with them though. I

I always want to pick like the hardest level when they give you like the levels that you can do like hardest.

Yeah. I would end up getting locked in there for days. Yeah. Obvious obviously they end. But if they didn't

imagine like our escape rooms like you have to escape literally or you just you stay forever.

Speaking of you guys should like come out. You should try ours any time. So, let us know. And we made it extremely hard for a reason. Oh, hell yeah.

And so, there's Do you know the percent like success rate? I forgot. It's like 30%.

30%. Mikey's like, I go. I love that. Let's go. That makes me want to do it more. The lower the success rate, the more I'm like, I'm going to get out of there.

I'll go with you and I'll get it by association. There you go. We've put out a challenge that the fastest time to complete it with no clues by Halloween gets to be a part of the escape room. Putting their faces in there. So, it's going to be really interesting.

My face is going to be in there. You look at me like now. It's just me. Clues. Yeah.

Oh, I love it. We did one in New York once, John and I, and it was like a It was actually like an old hotel kind of [clears throat] theme

and we didn't make it out. And I think about it to this day. I'm so angry. You're bitter about it still.

It's your fault. I'm like, you were too slow on that one puzzle. I It was your fault.

Every morning like I remember remember that. I'll never forget. I [snorts] love it. So cool, though.

So, going back, you purchased an elementary school in Iowa, Ferrar Ferrar, [snorts] Iowa, and you [clears throat] lived in it for like a week.

We did. Yeah. That was our way to announce it to the world is like we bought it, we realized there was a lot of renovations needed cuz one of the biggest reasons that we bought the place is because it was about to be demolished. Like there was threatening of de demolition because it was kind of breaking down. It was a really old building over 100 years old.

Um and so we had to repair it and then we're like okay well we want to open this up for investigations cuz like our you know again one of our big goals is to give these people like the experience of investigating themselves. And so we're like, "Okay, how do how do we want to announce this to the world?" Well, let's just do the craziest investigation can and lock ourselves in our own school. I cannot leave for an entire week.

That's wild. It was It was wild. Yeah. And it's it's pretty interesting there because there's a lot of different spirits. There's a bunch of like children's spirits who were students like one of uh Yeah. back in the day. Um but there's also like a principal sort of like figure who owns the school. He's a nice guy, but he's also very strict. Um

principles. Exactly. So, you got to respect that principle. Exactly. But then in um the gym, there's a boiler room to like the left side of it, and that has something very very dark in there. And we believe that there's like a portal.

Oh, [ __ ] That we weren't able to to close, but um yeah, something's definitely dark as well.

Oh, damn. That's like Freddy Krueger [clears throat] energy. Yeah. In the boiler room.

Cool. like over the, you know, perks of owning a spot now. We get to see all of the other investigations [snorts] that are happening there and like react to them. And there's like we have security cameras over there that capture all these things and we capture so many like really interesting paranormal evidence. Uh, and we have been seeing over the course of the last year that even since we've left, especially in this boiler room, like the the energyy's gotten darker and darker and people been sprinting out of the school like getting threatened all the time and we're like, "God dang, it's like worse than when we came, god dang, this is insane.

What is in there?" Yeah, it's pretty wild. But it's been really interesting cuz unlike, you know, most of the places that we get to go to or just like for a couple hours at night or maybe an overnight stay, like being able to not only go there for the week, but then continually see everybody and then being able to go back whenever we want. It's just like a much different experience to see. So,

it's like an ongoing investigation. Exactly. We're always used to just like going in for one night like you guys experienced and then just filming it and then that's it. But like having like a 24/7 like camera system actually cond

footage like in the future of like those security cameras like literally caught some crazy stuff like we've seen full on shadow figures we've seen like footsteps you almost like I you guys seen Harry Potter like that map that sees people like walk yeah like literally things like that like balls moving out of nowhere where no one's in the And it's like, oh, okay. Like owning a haunted building, you see some wacky stuff.

Like, this is a great idea. It's super cool. Last story, like our our buddy exploring with Josh, he was filming a video there, so it's on his channel, but um there's an intercom that goes like around the entire building that the principal obviously uses to talk to all the students. And it's only like able to be like turned on in the principal's office downstairs. And they were all the way upstairs and just you could hear it turn on the entire school. And so it's there's some stuff going on there.

And like did anybody say anything or was it just like the click on? No voices. It just clicked on and had that kind of like loud.

Yeah. Uhhuh. Oh, what the [ __ ] is that? That's so scary. I would hate that a lot.

Messed up there for sure. Oh, that's so cool though. It reminds me of like I don't know if you guys have seen Hell House LLC.

I need to watch that. That movie is It's a found footage movie, but it's like an amazing one.

It's fun. Like very good. and they have to stay in like they're like coming up with a haunted house for Halloween, but they like buy an old haunted location and they stay in it for a week. That just made me think of it. It turned out differently. So, I'm glad.

Yeah, it went better for you. Yeah, it went better for you guys. Definitely watch that.

Okay. Yeah, we'll check that out. That's really good. Cuz as soon as you said you stayed there for a week, I was like, you survived. That's great.

You guys just survived a bunch of ghost hunting now. We didn't realize since, you know, our last podcast, you guys been ghost hunting more and more often. Yeah, we got inspired from our USS Salem trip.

We had so much fun. We were like, as soon as we left that, we were like, when can we do this again? This was so fun.

What was the first thing we did after that? Was that probably Lizzy Bordon again, right? Cuz we had already gone before. Yeah, we went back there

instead. Spot. Yeah, we've done a few. Talk about true crime right there. That's crazy. It's one of the the biggest.

I still want to know what happened there. It's just so heavy when you walk in there. Like immediately

you can feel it. Mhm. too. Yeah. That was one of the the darkest places we got.

Yeah. Yeah. Especially the stepmother's room where she was killed. That's a gnarly room. That room and then like the kids' room where all the toys are, that room freaks me the [ __ ] out.

Uh-huh. Are you talking about like the attic? Yeah. Exactly. So creepy. Yeah. There's something weird in there.

For sure. Wait, so with all the places you guys have gone to, do you ever feel like anything follows you or comes with you?

Cuz you've been to a ton of locations. Did you bring something into our office?

You guys are screwed. So sorry, guys. We're just going to leave you with a friend.

Exactly. Leave you with a little friend. You know, a lot of people say that. It's actually really creepy that like sometimes we'll walk up to a place and like someone be like, "Hey, I'm a psychic and you have something attached to you." And I'm like,

"Yes." Oh, I don't like that. One time too where it wasn't even like I think she claimed to be a psychic, but do you remember the story? We haven't talked about this in so long where we went to like a Ralph's one time in LA and there was like a random worker there that was just like, "Hey, I'm I'm a fan. Like I've been watching your channel and like you have to tell Sam that something's following him. I see it. Like I saw it in the store." And like it was like to our faces and we were like,

"All [clears throat] right." Like thanks. Thanks for the bananas. Like wow. Damn.

Yeah. I remember an old guy in like in a parking lot stopping me and being like, "You're not going to be okay." Oh, he's like, YOU KNOW, DO NOT tell me that. Like,

just out of nowhere, and that's it. Like, period, you're not going to be okay. Uh, why? And he's like, no, you need to get cleansed. And I'm like, oh god.

Have you guys been cleansed before? We we we do that a lot more now. Yeah, I bet.

Yeah. Uh, we're taking a lot more precautions and like making sure we're a lot more safe with our investigations that we do.

So scary. But definitely, to answer your question, there there's been a lot of people saying things have followed us. There's been a long parking lot and grocery stores.

I don't understand it. Damn. And definitely um we have a spot in in Vegas. We stay there

most of the time. And um that house is definitely haunted for sure. We'll see. Spot in Vegas, you said?

Yeah. Our spot in Vegas. It's like our our main residence, but we'll like see um like shadows going underneath like the door and stuff like that. So like sometimes I'll think like Sam's like walking like by my door and I'm like, "Oh, like he needs to ask a question or whatever." like why not just not open it up, nobody there. Hear noises all the time.

Uh there was one time like we were all like playing a game with some like friends and um there was like a how do I describe it? Like a

somebody like hit our blind like shade or whatever. You know the ones that you can like pull down that are like

it's not like the shades like this. It's like the like horizontal ones or whatever. We had that pulled down or whatever and then just like somebody like punched it.

Yeah. Imagine like this the shade has been completely still for like an hour while we're playing this game and then boom, it's like it got punched like impacted. It's like whoa. We all just turned around like what just happened?

And like not like somebody punched it like you're punching at the window but like it's coming this way if that makes sense through the window.

Oh okay. So it was not like a like a concave. It was like a convex. Yes, that's perfect. Nice vocabulary like geometry and stuff.

This is perfect. Wow. That's terrifying. Yeah. Did you need to get a new shade?

Well, no. Thank God. Shades are expensive. Exactly. Wow. Holy [ __ ] We've had some like weird things happened in this room.

The other day, in fact, which hopefully it doesn't. Is that on or no? The calendar over there.

It is, but I can unplug it. No, it's totally fine cuz maybe it'll happen. We were filming, not filming, we were recording like a episode and in the middle of it, we just have a calendar over there that like never goes off and it will like if we complete a task, but we had not completed a task that day.

So, in the middle of telling the story, it just made this like like musical sound.

It was like a lullaby sound. I I usually sit where you're sitting, Sam. I almost went through that skylight. I was like, "Oh my god, you got to go."

Yeah. I went over there and nothing was on the screen. It hadn't like given a notification. And it just was like this creepy lullabi sound and we were like

it was so loud. It was like jump through the window. That's scary. Yeah, we've had weird [ __ ] happen.

I'm trying to think of other weird instances in here. The TV it won't now, but the TV very slowly fell.

Yeah, you thought that was hilarious. Fell on Ash's head in the middle of the TV is like attached to the wall like it's fully on there and it literally I again I sit where you're sitting and it just crashed onto my head. Nobody moved like slow motion.

There wasn't a bang. It just literally was like attempted murder question mark.

You were like I could not stop laughing. [clears throat] You said it was the noise I made.

It was. Yeah. But we've had little things and I mean this house is a few things cuz my youngest I don't know if I don't think I've told you have I told you guys about skeleton.

I don't think so. It's like an honorary thing. Yeah. So, our listeners are going to be like, "Jesus Christ, we're going to hear about skeleton again."

No, you'll never stop hearing about skeleton. Okay. Skeleton. Okay. My youngest, when she was three, I would say, maybe two or three,

she would come in and tell us that she saw something in her room, which we were like, "Oh, great. Here we are."

And we were like, "Who is it?" And she was like, "His name is Skeleton." But she would say it like that, like not skeleton, skeleton, like skeleton sk like his name is Skeleton. And I was like, "Skeleton, okay." And I'm like, "What is he?" And she was like, "He's a skeleton." And I was like, "Oh." And she's like, "And he sits on my bookshelf." And watches me. And I said,

"Okay." I was like, "Is he mean?" And she was like, "No, he's not." He's a nice guy.

He's a nice guy. That's what she said. I was like, "Great." And she said, "His bones look old." And I was like, "How do you know that?" Cuz like you're two or three. And she said, "They're they're like they're like brown and dark."

How does she know that? And that's I was like, "Why would you know that?" Like you don't even know what real bones look like.

She's wild. Oh my god. She's one we were telling you about. That is my worst nightmare.

And she and I asked her. I was like, "So she sits on your bookshelf? Like how does he sit?" And she was like, "Oh." She said, "He lays like this."

OH GOD. WHICH I WAS LIKE, kind of like, "What are you doing? Why are you watching my child?"

He's just like, "But he's gone now." Yeah. Oh, yeah. He would leave every once in a while. And I was like, "Oh, he leaves and comes back." I was like, "He comes back though?" And she goes, "Yeah, he leaves sometimes to go visit his family."

His family. His family. He has a family. And one day he left to see his family and didn't come back. And I was like,

"Stay with your family." Like found your family. Even scarier cuz who showed up then?

Yeah. So we got rid of skeleton and weedited. She was kind of She was like miss. She was like a little bummed. She was like, "Oh, Skeleton didn't come back." And I was like, "All right,

that's fine." And then one day she in the middle of hide and seek. Yeah. My husband and her were playing hide and seek and they were like hiding under a blanket together and she was like oh I hope the mister doesn't see us.

The mister and he was like what? And she was like the mister? And he was like you have to explain to me what the mister is.

Well and she he said like oh no he won't find us. Yeah. She cuz he she explained like he's a guy with no eyes.

Oh god. Sometimes he takes the snacks in our pantry apparently, which I think is which I think is just her and that's she's just like covering it up,

but she said like he's a little scary. She doesn't like him. And so John was like, "Oh, he won't find us." Like trying to like maintain composure. And she goes, "Oh no, the mister will always find us."

And he was like, "ALL RIGHT, GAME OVER. MY GOD, I don't want to do that." That's the most ominous [ __ ] I've ever heard in my life.

Yeah. The mister will always find him anymore. Yeah, but if you if you bring him up, she's like, "Oh yeah, I remember him."

Yeah. Like she remembers him. Oh my god. And Skeleton. Yeah. We have a history of like creepy children in this family. Are

I was a creepy child. You were a creepy child. Were you a creepy child? I don't think I

No, actually. Yeah, you were because you used to just like sway and talk about flags. I just sleep I was a sleepwalker. But you were a creepy sleepwalker. All sleepwalkers I feel like are pretty creepy. Yeah,

that is very true. Yeah. Seeing anybody like Yeah. 4:00 a.m. Yeah. No, thank you.

Yeah. I used to see a ton of ghosts when I was little. Yeah, you did. I saw I used to live at Alena's parents house cuz we're like aunt and niece technically, but really like sisters.

Uh and that house is haunted as [ __ ] It's like an old farmhouse. I think it's like a hundred years old.

Oh, maybe a little more. 100 years old. Yeah. Yeah. And I would see like I saw like a little boy one time like a farm boy with like a cap and like you know like those like old tiny pants and then the socks would be like up. I saw him like in the corner of our shared room just like reading a book and I like woke my mom

so little when she said this I think I was like five probably and uh I still can see it in my head. Whoa. And

I woke my mom up and I was like, "The boy is like reading like there's a boy in here. He's reading your book." And she was like, "No, no, no. Like, go back to sleep." And she woke up and her book was wedged in the closet and she had not left it there.

No way. And I like hadn't gotten out of bed or anything like Jeez. But it was non-threatening. It was just kind of like an apparition doing his thing.

Chilling. Yeah. He was just reading the book. He's probably like, "What the hell is this?"

Yeah. It's crazy. He probably saw you too and has like a story to tell his like ghost friend. I saw a girl there.

Crazy. This girl saw me. She was telling her mom her mom didn't believe [clears throat] her. Yeah.

What do you think about that? Like I feel like when we're kids, we we are so much more open to seeing

spirits and other things like that. I don't know. Obviously, every kid has had their imaginary friend, but

I don't know. A lot a lot of me thinks that like sometimes they aren't imaginary friends. We're just more much more open to it with our kids. And then, you know,

you're not scared yet, I think. Mhm. And you're not you're open to everything. Like kids have no biases. [snorts] No, like

society hasn't told you what you have to believe and stuff like that. It's just totally open.

Did you guys see [ __ ] when you were kids? More so. Um, not as like vivid I think as those types of things, but like I used to, especially like, you know, fifth grade and below, I'd get like deja vu like once a week. It was super weird. like to the point where I was like predicting things that were about to happen like I've seen this thing. She's about to say this. Okay. Yeah. And then she just said this. It was like super [ __ ] weird. Happened all the time when I was a kid.

But now like less. I don't know. It's weird. Yeah. But now I don't see much. Yeah. I only had one really haunted kind of scary experience when I was like super young. I think I was in sixth grade. So what 11, 12, something like that. And um I was really getting into like Christianity for like the first time in my life. And I was um this was during a time in my life where I was like going to like a Bible like camp and I was also like during the weekdays like I would have like a Bible study on a Wednesday and then go to church on Sunday. So I was like really just involved with it.

And um it's it's hard to explain but like I had a loft bed, right? So like it was one of those where you had to like climb a ladder to get on top. There's like a desk underneath. And it happened like three nights like in a matter of like a week or two or something like that. But right before I was about to fall asleep, like right before I was like losing consciousness, I just heard like a like in my like right in my ear and it like woke me up

and then I would try to go to back to sleep and then like right in my ear like to the point where like I knew I wasn't like dreaming. I wasn't like going crazy. I ran to my mom's room. I told her the story and that happened again like two other nights in like a yeah a month maybe I don't know

at that point like you just said like 11 or something 11 or 12 yeah something like that and yeah I still to this day don't know what it was but like part of me part of me believes that like because I was getting into Christianity and stuff like that like it was something trying to scare me or like I don't know

I have no idea but I've told that story like once once before. Oh that's so creepy.

Yeah. I don't know what it was. I want to know what this day and this never happened to me for the rest.

Speak up. Yeah, exactly. My life. Yeah. And it was just like a couple nights that it happened.

Yeah. It was again, this was so long ago, so I'm not going to lie. I don't know. I think it was like it happened like two or three nights and then like it would happen like three times.

I mean that's significant I would say. To the point where again I went and woke up my mom at 12 years old. Like

Yeah. In middle school like obviously you don't want to do that. I'm like hey mom like there's something breathing in my ear before I like fall asleep.

It's so scary. And it was so bad that I had to um wear headphones. Oh my god. Yeah. To go to sleep cuz I was afraid of something like breathing in my ear. I would have anxiety. I could

Would you like feel it too? Like hear it and feel it or just hear it? It would just be like a loud breath. No. No feeling. Yeah.

Damn. And that's it too. No words. It was just kind of like a like wake up. That's so annoying. I really hate that. Like [ __ ] himself. I don't like it.

Scary. No, that's that's terrifying. It's the worst when you're a parent of a child who does that cuz you have to like keep your [ __ ] together and not traumatize them by being like that's [ __ ] terrifying. Like are you serious? Like when they first told me about when Oh, the when the twins Yeah. I didn't even think of that.

My my older ones they they haven't really had a lot of things but they had one they just knocked it out of the park.

They really Yeah, they hit the home run with the one thing they had and it was in the our we had we lived in a house that was from like 1860. So it was like crazy old. We always felt some stuff there. It had like a lot of history.

That place was scary. I used to sleep on the couch in the living room when I would come over and I would like hear [ __ ] in the dining room.

There was a lot going on in that house. And they happened to be in their like first like bed beds, like toddler beds, so they weren't like cribs anymore. And they were like next to the door. And they just started yelling one night and John and I run up the stairs cuz we're like, "What happened?" We thought one of them like fell out of bed or something. And they're both sitting there like up in bed and one of them says like, "Please get them to leave." And we were like, "Oh my god,

what? Like what are you talking about?" And she was like, "People came in here with scissors and we're trying to cut our sheets."

And I was like, "Oh my god, what?" John literally I love John's reaction. Second, we're standing in the doorway and John just goes, "I'm out." Like he was like,

he was like, "This one's on this one." Cuz he was like, "I'm going to [ __ ] this up." Like I can't. [gasps]

So I was like, "What?" Okay. And I'm like, "Oh, what?" And I'm like, "Is it a lot of people?" And they're like, "Yeah, a lot of people came in and we're trying a couple of them were trying to cut our" And they're like, "I burn my house down personally."

And I was like like, "Well, we'll start fresh somewhere else." I was like, "Okay." And I'm so I'm like the doorway was right like next to their bed. And then there's this little like nook right here where the attic was. It's like a door to the attic. It was a very like spooky little area. So I was like, "Yeah, I would be scared, too." So I stood in the doorway and I was like, "Are they in the room right now?" And she was like, "No." And I was like, "Where are they?" And she goes, "Right there." And she pointed behind me in the little

dark ass hallway. Oh my god. So I was like, "Oh my god." Okay. And so I I didn't know what to do. So I stepped backwards into the nook and I was like, "So they're like around me right now." And she was like, "Yes, they're right." I was like, "Okay." And I was like, "Listen, guys." And I just like talked to them and was like, "You're scaring them. Like they're kids. This is their house.

That's not cool to do." like you can't scare them. Like you can and I was like and even if you want to come in our room and [ __ ] with us, you can. But like you can't be in this room. This is not okay. And like please leave.

That's horrifying. And it never happened again. Like I mean you set your boundary. I do feel like spirits somewhat listen to intentions, you know, or or like boundaries.

We had to sleep in their room that night, but it never happened again. That was wild. We've been told that like um even if you can experience really scary things like that, um spirits do have to listen to you. You can demand them. Like we always say like do not follow us home, you cannot touch me. That even happened to us like the other other night which we can get into. But um yeah, like if you if you tell them like firmly,

they have to listen. Yeah. Yeah, I believe it. You have the power over them. Wait, on a scale of like 1 to 10, how much do you guys believe in the ghosts and the paranormal stuff?

Oh, like 350. Really? I'm a full believer. I just don't think I think there's way too much evidence that there's some kind of afterlife and that even if even if spirits like quote unquote aren't actual people, I think energy goes somewhere.

You know what I mean? Energy doesn't die. Yeah, it's a fact. I think I'm like a I'm like a seven or eight now.

Okay. So, there we go. When your kids were saying these types of things, like were you not like getting bricks? Yeah, I think Yeah, I think when they were saying these like when that when the scissors one happened, I was probably like a four or five.

Okay. That's why I felt a little more comfortable being like, "Hey, don't don't be in this room, assholes."

It is so crazy to me that we grew up in the same haunted ass home and that you are not more of a believer.

I know cuz I I just want to like explain it. I think it's just energy. I think that's how you explain it.

Yeah. I think that's why I'm getting more like What were mainly the things that brought you from a four to a seven right now? I think now that we've gone through some of these like I had never really done it that much. So I didn't I had like things going on in my own house but I could kind of explain them away in some way.

Yeah. Or just in my brain explain them away. I was like it's fine that that happens.

But these kind of things like even like getting touched by something I think when we went to the USS Salem something like blew in my ear.

Oh yeah. And I fully felt it like fully felt it and did not expect to feel it. So like scared the [ __ ] I think I jumped like 40 ft in the air.

That was terrifying. I think those kind of things I just can't explain that and feelings now like going into certain like Lizzie Bordon going into that house like

this feels different. We've both been told before and I think you were recently told again like that we're intuitive.

Yeah. You know, so I do think you're start I think you're more open to it now. So you're starting to feel it more when we go to [clears throat] these different places.

Yeah. I think before I was like, "No, yeah, I don't want." You're like blocked off a little bit.

Yeah. Which kind of goes like full circle to like the the kids and stuff like experiencing this cuz it's like you're just more open in general. I think like spirits or or the energies, whatever you want to call it, out there can like tell if you're like close-minded. And there's actually a term of it called like a blockhead where you just like

you're just blocking won't believe it. So they don't they don't even try. Yeah. So they're like, "Oh, this guy's not going to believe." But if you are open to it, that's when stuff starts happening. That makes a lot of sense, actually.

Cuz I try when we go into these places to be as like open-minded as possible cuz I'm like, well, if I'm going to experience it, I should experience it.

Yeah. Don't try to be like the [ __ ] who's like, I'm not going to believe anything.

I'm not going to try to debunk everything. That's what we tell all of our guests that when we walk in, it's like, hey, like if if we notice them being like kind of like a blockhead, it's like, well, you're not going to get anything if you're literally going out to deny it. you know, when we first started ghost hunting, we both like didn't believe in the paranormal side of it much. Uh, and we didn't get much, you know, but then when we really were out there like, okay, well, you know, put the cameras off. Let's actually try to get something happen just purely out of interest. That's when we started getting stuff happen. So, it's like that's always the best way to go about it when ghost hunting and all these different things. Be openminded. You're like, let things happen.

Makes sense. That's the thing. When you just let it happen, it happens. It sure does. Yeah.

Yeah. Like when we were at Lizzie Bordon and we'll get into our little game in a second, but when we went to Lizzie Bordon, we were all sitting. We were with Karen and Sabrina from Two Girls One Ghost

and we were sitting in the kitchen or like the dining room. That's where we were.

Yeah. The dining room. And we were all just reading from like the guest book where people have put their experiences. And I think Sabrina was reading them out loud

and like just she was like, "Let's just see what happens if I read these things out loud and see if anything happens from up. We were alone in the house. We had booked the whole house just for the four of us. From upstairs, a woman's voice yelled something so clearly.

It was like, "Who's there?" wasn't it? It yelled like, "Who's there?" And it was a woman's voice and you can hear it on the c cuz we had like a camera just sitting on the I literally just thinking about it

cuz you can see us on the camera. All of us just like what was that? And we we searched. Nothing was up there. No one was up there.

You were so scared to the point where like Elena thought somebody broke into the house. Is there somebody in here?

That is terrifying. That's what I was more scared of. I was like, is there like a real person in here? We were afraid of real people.

Definitely. It was so clear though. We weren't really trying to do anything. We were just reading the experiences and just sitting there and I was like,

that was the clearest thing we had heard all night. It was gnarly. That's horrifying. It was so scary.

Were you guys filming, too? Yeah. Yeah. I think we have that on camera. We do somewhere. It's so cool.

I was eating Starburst, [clears throat] so I didn't hear it. I think it's just me and Karen who are like, "Did everyone hear that?"

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was terrifying. But on the on the thing, like the recording back, you can hear it fully.

Oh my god. You just can't make out what she's saying. Yeah. But you can hear like a voice in the distance. It was terrifying.

Horrifying. My god. It's the noises when they're like outside like even like when we were doing it and the noises that were happening like in the distance.

Yes. Those are the things that wake me up. And you guys still get scared. Oh yeah. I mean,

which is it's like surprising in a way. Yeah. There's some some things that we're like, okay, like we've heard these types of things before, but there's always stuff that's new and it's always like, you know,

terrifying. It's the story that really freaks me out. So, even though we've been doing it for years, like someone would think that we would get used to it, but it's it's not the case cuz like we'll spend like a week beforehand like researching it, studying it, watching YouTube videos, all that. And so, like we're kind of prepping ourselves to like go. And so when we walk in, we're like, "Oh man, we've already like learned so much about this place." And that's what like makes it freaky.

That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Because you're just so familiar with like every facet of the house.

You know everything about the story. And so like when you've heard that there's for example like a door slamming or something like that and then that happens to you, it just ultimately makes it 10 times more scary.

Yeah, for sure. And you're like, "What's coming outside the room?" I'm like, "Is it coming here?

And what are we going to do when I fight this? Of all the places you've gone to, do you have a favorite?

Like in terms of like most scary or Yeah. Or just like one that I would say most scary or that you like had the most crazy experiences at?

Ooh. Oh, that's really interesting. H I mean one like personally the thing that scares me the absolute most uh is a upcoming video that we have. It's we went to the Paris Catacombs.

Stop it. It's 200 miles of the largest graveyard in the world. 6 million dead bodies buried underneath Paris. And it's just miles and miles of a labyrinth of different like caves systems and everything like that. And there's no map. And so

you can get lost so easily in there. So easily. We know so many people that got lost that you know got threatened to be robbed. There's gangs down there. People die down there. It's really rough uh in terms of just like the physical danger. And then you got to think it might be one of the most haunted places in the world with 6 million dead bodies down there and all the ritualistic stuff that's gone down there. It's really really uh dark things. But I we've known about that for a long time and I've pushed off that video for I think 5 years now.

I was like I cannot do it this year. I cannot do it this year. I cannot do it this year. I was like, "Need to muster up some more courage." And we finally went for this year's like how weak series and like it was genuinely terrifying like literally [snorts] walking around next to

hundreds of bones that you know used to be people and like just like us and it's just really eerie feelings. [clears throat] And not only that, like our investigations were like absolutely horrifying. We got little we like tried to record EVPs. Um basically just sound recordings. You play it back and sometimes there's, you know, [snorts] recordings of things that you can't hear with a human ear and there's literal guttural screams back at us like and then sometimes like saying full sentences back to us and we're like what is going on here? Like we've never heard anything like it. Uh it was genuinely terrifying.

And like that place didn't just have paranormal danger but obviously it was like illegal to go down there.

Uh-huh. And then there's these uh people that like live down there called cataphiles

and they like steal your map and your flashlight and just so obsessed with that idea.

Did you come into contact with anybody? We ran into one guy. Uh-huh. What was his vibe? Oh, it's for the video right?

Yeah. [clears throat] Better for the video. So excited for that one. What's what's really scary is um we went down there a couple with a couple buddies and they were like, "We're not going to tell you certain things that we know about this place until afterwards just just for the sake of your mind." That's really creepy. So, we leave and he goes, "Okay, well, I didn't want to say this, but I know a guy who recently went down there and got his backpack, his food, his water, everything stolen from him. Um, and like he got left deep in the catacombs by a guide purely just like I just want to rob the guy. And all he had was 10% left on his phone battery and then one little flashlight

and he was down there for hours and hours and hours just waiting aimlessly walking around before someone luckily found him

and he made it out alive. But like he could have easily died. Oh yeah. Another random YouTube explorer that we just went down there like I want to go film a video just like we did

and his guide left him. Is that what you said? It's on YouTube. The video's on YouTube. Um yeah, shout out Nightscape I believe his name was.

You have to see this. You have to watch it. It It's like probably one of the scariest YouTube videos I've ever seen cuz it's so real and like you he's by himself completely. No food, no water, and he needed he was like uh from England, so he didn't know like obviously like the French language or anything.

He can't really communicate. Yeah. So scary. I would just sobb. I think I would just sit down and cry.

And like if your if your light goes out, it is pitch black. Oh yeah. It's like I mean it's a

Not only are you in a labyrinth and you have no idea what's going on, it's pitch black. So you literally can't see anything.

And it's like a pitch black you can't conceive of. Oh. It's like we don't exist in that pitch black.

Like you could have your your finger right next to your eyeball and you could not see that.

Not even like sense it there. Claustrophobia been like wing through waters that go up to your chest and stuff that's freezing cold.

Did you guys have to wade through water? Yeah. So we were completely soaked. Um we had to like It's so funny. You basically like in public on a busy street like climb through a manhole.

Yeah. And you're just in front of everybody. It's like when we were like making our escape finally, we were like crawling out there like completely dirty, drenched, like soaked and people were like looking at us like, "Oh my god,

they probably see it all the time." Just like people coming out of manholes like all [ __ ] up.

Exactly. Like a army crawl like on our hands and knees and stuff like that for probably a football field or more like at certain times just to get from one cave to the other.

Was it like tight? Yeah. Like you had to push. So you essentially caved. Yeah. Push your backpack. Splunking.

Is that what it's called? It's called splunking. What's that movie? Um, The Descent.

The Descent. Have you ever seen that where they go like cave dive? Oh, you got to watch.

I don't like those movies. It's so scary to me. So scary. There is a movie based on Paris Catacombs. As below scream.

Oh my god. Horrifying. I I watched that on the plane going to Paris. I was getting to the moon. I was like, I'm not doing

Save that for after. I was just like, I want to be fully immersed. Fully and you were. I bet

it was. I was like, no, thank you. I'm just going to take a nap in line and disassociate real quick.

Do you have a favorite? Um, [snorts] there's so many like cool spots that we've been to. We've been all like around the world uh doing this stuff. So, there's like really cool locations like castles and stuff. But, in terms of like just one that comes to mind is have you guys been to Velisa? No.

Or talk about Fiska. I That's like my bucket list. Initially, I said that I wouldn't go, but I think now that we're getting more into it, I would.

Yeah, I'm really I'm dipping more into to these things. Like, I agreed I'll do like a Ouija board now and stuff.

I know. We covered like the case. So, you know the story behind it. Mhm. I like out of all the haunted places that we've been personally that one talking about feeling when I walked in there, you can feel how like evil and heavy it is because it involved a lot of children and stuff like a lot of messed up things happened in that house and like what was it eight people? You guys noticed eight people.

It's been a while since we covered it, but I'm I think you're right. Yeah. And there's a brutality like blood on the ceiling and stuff, right?

Yeah. and the the axe marks cuz he used like the blunt side to to murder. So you can see like the chops in the ceiling. And what's interesting like what's what makes it scary is it's like uh just in a random neighborhood. So it looks like a just a normal little community, a tiny little neighborhood next to a bunch of other houses, but then you walk in and

it's like a different world. Yeah, it feels so dark. I feel like the energy in I want to go actually have to try it. All right. So, obviously you guys have worked with like a lot of psychics and mediums throughout your endeavors. So, we wanted to tell you some of the most wild techniques that we found from throughout the years.

Okay. Okay. So, just a couple of like interesting like Victorian era seance. They used to do some weird stuff.

They do some and they were like diabolical. There was a couple that I'm like you guys rass. Okay. So, we're talking about some like scam artist type of stuff.

Yeah. Big time. Big time. So, I'm going to start with possibly the craziest one that we saw. Um, the ectoplasm of it all. So, mediums in the early 1900s,

the ectoplasm. So, mediums in the early 1900s said basically when ectoplasm started leaking, that was the signal that they had tapped into the spirit world. That's how you knew like was going down, you know.

Yeah. Damn, that happens to us all the time. Always goo everywhere. All kinds of goo. Um, so it would sometimes include a gauzy substance leaking from all kinds of places on the medium. Their ears, their mouth, their nose, their eyes.

Um, and apparently sometimes even their genitalia. Yeah. And I have a picture of that. It's It's safe for work, but

kind of. Oh, what the Wait, that's a lot. Way more than expected. Yeah. Damn. Has that ever happened to you?

Super excited. One time I had some goo coming out of my pants. It was insane. It was crazy.

Almost that much. It was loud. Stoked. You're like, "Damn, the ghosts are here.

Please stop. Something is happening. Please stop." It would not stop. So eventually when this like really got popular, the term ectopplasm was coined. I don't know what the [ __ ] they were calling it before.

Oh [snorts] god. God only knows. But uh yeah, that term was coined by French uh physiologist and uh psychical researcher Charles Rcher.

So as soon as the white viscous fluid started leaking from wherever it did, that's when you knew that the spirits were in town.

I guess what the medium said the purpose of the fluid was during the seances was that it would turn into like the face of a person trying to be contacted from the other side.

Okay. Um, yeah. It would see face in the goo. They'd see faces in the goo. And we'll get into that. They really

investigated the goo. Sometimes the goo would be like a limb. Like it would it would look like an arm, like a disembodied arm.

Uh, or sometimes it could be like a full body figure. Oh. In of the goo. That is a lot of goo. A lot.

I did not know this much ectopplasm existed. I didn't either. Uh, so now the interesting thing about this though is that apparently the mediums would tell you this would only work in the dark. The lights could not be on and you could not get close to them while this was happening.

Can't see. And if you turned on the light, they were like, "Oh, it's just going to dis disintegrate." So, like, we got to keep it super dark up in here.

They So, Harry Houdini was a huge skeptic of this practice. And he called out mediums and basically how they got to getting the ectopplasm to come out. He said they were swallowing all kinds of things like cotton mixed with goose grease.

Goose? Cloth, gauze, muslin, and sometimes sheep's lungs. What? What? They would like mix all this [ __ ] together. Like it makes me think of just like papier-mâché.

Yeah. And but they would ingest it or they'd like stick it in their ears and they'd have like wires that they could pull like obviously without showing whoever they were reading and that's when it would start to flow. I don't know about how they like how that picture came to be.

Imagine being that committed to the bit. Like you are that committed to the scam

that you're willing to swallow chiffon and or put it in places. Yeah. Or put it in places.

Put it Yeah. And just allow it to like I'm not committed to that. No. Yeah. Cuz they would essentially just like make themselves sick in the cases where it came out of their mouth. They would they just like throw up sheep like agitated it out.

Yeah. Ah. So one of the mediums who was famous for this was Martha. Um she was also known as Eva C or Eva Kerier. She was actually said to be the first person to introduce this practice. And sometimes she would even include like little pictures of people um so that when it started leaking out, people would look at the photos and be like, "Oh my god, that's my grandma.

Oh my god, that's my cousin Beth who died like seven years ago." What? But she eventually got exposed when people realized that the photos were of celebrities from magazines and she would cut them out and like disguise them somehow.

What? What? Eventually somebody during a seance was like, "Wait a second. This is like a king from like another country. This is not my grandpa."

Whoa. And she got called out. Wait, so you're saying that they would like eat the paper and then like regurgitate it?

Yeah. She would basically she used I guess sheep's lungs mixed with like other stuff like muslin and that kind of thing and she would like crinkle up pictures into it. So then when they would you know go through the goo they would see the pictures.

Oh was she someone who like puked it out or did she like piss it out? Was she one of which one?

So I think she is this isn't her. Here's another one. So some people were puking.

Oh god. Eat it. Yeah. I think she did all kinds of things with her ectoplasm. I think she was one of the uh

these people as well. Okay. I think she it was just coming out of everyone. Like somebody peeing out your grandma.

Kind of insane. Or what you think is your grandma's the king of That's a man. Not my grandma.

That's a man. So that was that was our girl. That's crazy. Wow. Eva. So that's ectopplasm.

It's so funny. We were doing this investigation in Australia at a prison. What was that prison called? You know,

oh my god. I don't know. It doesn't really matter. But we were at this uh prison and like we did this whole investigation. 3:00 in the morning, the the owner walks in. He goes, "You guys want to see something cool?"

Yes. And he goes, "If you don't tell anybody, I have ectoplasm." Like, "This is amazing." Huh?

Say what? I have never heard of someone having ectoplasm. I keep it in a jar. I was like, "Okay, you're a jar of liquid. I have to see like we got to do this." We're with a couple other buddies. And so 4:00 a.m. walk into this guy's like back office and he pulls out this jar of clear looking weird goo liquid and it's in this like, you know, mason jar. He's like, "I've been keeping this for ages." I was like, "Where did you get this? I have a lot of followup questions.

I'm like I I don't know if I want to know, but like also what I've never We've We've seen a lot of interesting characters, but we've never had someone present their

ectom ectoplasm in a jar. I keep this special just to show people. And I was like, it

said it was like he found the goo on some table, right? Yeah. like after just like the seance stories like after like a big like investigation like there was just goo that appeared

and he just said you know some of this goo and thula and just got into the jar.

No the vibe I get from him is just straight hair. Yeah. He didn't even give me that goo.

Yeah. So you held it. Well I tried I like reached for it. The jar that was. Yeah. And he was like like you can't touch my goo. And I was like I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. Said you can look but no touch. But he was like, "Yes, sir." Damn. How do you leave that conversation?

We were like, "Thanks. We're going to go uh do our lastation." Yeah. It was so bizarre.

It was exactly the color that you would imagine this [clears throat] to be. At least he presented it in a jar and didn'tact.

Yeah. Or just like leak it out of their nose or something. Exactly. Gross. Holy [ __ ] Also, I'm like now hearing him say that in an Australian accent in my head.

Oh, I didn't even think of that. My goo. That was a little Don't touch my goo. Please

get roasted for our Australian accent. Sorry. I want to see ecto. No, I don't. I [snorts] change my mind.

I kind of do. I'll hear about it. I just I don't want to experience it happening, but I' i'd see that guy's jar of ectoplasm.

Look at that guy's got jar. I'd be like, "Please, let me see." Damn. Well, mine are not

characters. Mine are not nearly as like graphic wild as that. So, I was just going to talk about spirit trumpets, which which just seemed to me like silly.

They were like these little cone shaped trumpet things that they would be like cardboard or metal

and they used it. It just made me think of those like cartoons where like they would put like a giant horn to their ear

and they would put a horn to their ear and say that they were like hearing the spirits talk to them

and then they would use the horn to like distort their voice and pretend that the spirit was speaking through them.

Oh. And sometimes they would levitate it with like wires and [ __ ] and if it was an audience they would have it levitate over to the person that was getting the message. So they would just like and it would be like little kids sometimes under a table who were like trolling

at their night job. Yeah. Just like, you know, moonlighting after school. And they would just have it float over to the person that the message was for and like it would just come plop by your ear. That's pretty high tech.

That's pretty. I kind of want to see that. But it had to be dark so you couldn't see like a glide. Yeah. When you're scamming it's dark always. For sure. Always. So, there's that one that was just silly to me that I was like, I just pictured this little like trumpet floating through the [snorts and laughter] air. It's like, you got a message.

And then one that was diabolically evil to me, and they did it a lot was sometimes they would embed they would like make the candles themselves and they would put the if they were doing a reading for like specific people, they would put the perfume or cologne of the person's loved one in the candle wax. So when they burned the candle, they would smell the colona perfume and they would think that the person was there. And I was like,

what? That's [ __ ] up on another level. So messed up. Also, how do they know the person's perfume?

That's the thing. I don't know if they would do like a There was only three back then. So maybe that was it.

Luck in the draw, I guess. Yeah. They didn't have to worry about like the whole perfume center. Sephora, I guess,

like Chanel worry about, but some some oil. Yeah. Yeah. This is like a flower. That is pretty messed up.

Oh my god. Can you And they'd like bring it up like they'd be like, "Oh, I smell something." And the person would be like, "That's my husband's cologne."

Oh, that's like, "Well, it has to be here." And I'm like, "You have to be the nastiest

person." Yeah. To go with that. Yeah. I won't commit to the bit enough to piss out exo ectopplasm. And I will not commit to that bit either.

I'm glad that you're not willing to piss out ectoplasm. That's a good quality. I will not. I stand this is I'm standing on business right now and I will not do that.

Just hold it in a jar but not this hold in a jar for sure but I will not produce it.

Yeah, we were just talking about that how like it is so like [ __ ] up to like think there are people that make money on telling you about your dead loved ones when they have absolutely no idea.

You know that is [ __ ] up. Like Sylvia Brown cuz it's like how do you how do you just go to sleep after that?

Yeah. You know cuz you know you're lying. Yeah. Exactly. How do you how do you live with yourself?

Or do you think they get to the point where they think they're on to something?

I think that happens to a lot of people. Yeah, definitely. I think they might know that they're like deceiving potentially, but they're also like helping people out. Like they probably justify it in their head by being like, "Oh, well, it's making them feel better to get these answers." When in reality, they're just lying to you or whatever.

Buddying the water. Yeah, that's how they justify it. Yeah, I think that makes sense. I've been getting I'm like on a Sylvia Brown kick right now because I'm getting them on my TikTok for some I don't know where they came from. I don't know how this happened.

Now you're gonna get more because we're talking. Oh, I already am. I'm on like Sylvia Brown talk all of a sudden. It's like people just started like ser she was like this psychic from she used to be on all these talk shows like she was always on like Montel Williams

like Sally Jesse Rafel like you know those kind of daytime talk shows and she would go on there and she would like but she would help with like investigations and like tell or she wouldn't help with investigations she would give her input

and she would like talk to like family members if people were missing or murdered and like give them information and there was a couple of times that she was so wildly wrong that it was like crazy like one there's a clip of her and it's one lady talking about her husband or her boyfriend or fiance I forget which one and she was like he died and you know I just like I need some closure I need to know where he is we were never able to get his body and she doesn't tell her anything else and Sylvia Brown looks at her and says well that's cuz he's in the water and she was like and you telling people that

oh yeah she loves that she'll throw you in the water no matter what but she says she's like water honey and so she's like honey he's in the water and you can see the lady be like,

"That's what?" And she goes, "Well, it was 911 and he was a firefighter on 9/11." So like, so how do you get in?

And you can see Sylvia Brown be like, she said, "Damn, I go to he's in the water." Like she just commits to it, but you can see it. She's like, "Fuck." Like she's I [ __ ] that up. But she just commits. And you can see the lady's like, "Okay."

And just sits down. I was like, "You [ __ ] Yeah, that's so bad. Throw that their loved ones in the water, too. I'm like the worst kind of outcome that you

to another parent of a case that we covered. And wasn't the girl like still alive and being held captive?

I think so. She's done it a couple of times. Yeah. Like once the water trick doesn't pan out for you one time, you think you'd move on?

Once you fail at it like that, you need you need to retire the water. Like don't don't use that one again after you hear that. Cuz when she said he it was 911 when he died and he was a firefighter, I was like, "What?

How do you [ __ ] that up so bad?" Silia, honey. Silia, I'm telling you, though, on Sylvia Brown Tik Tok,

you'll get all these awful clips. That actually would be like be so cool to like just see a compilation of all the mediums like just failing horribly just like catching them in the act and they're like, "Oh god."

Yep. Cuz you can see it on there. Like you can see the panic set in for like a second, but she recovers so fast and just commits.

That's crazy. so personal. I would not be able to do that. Yeah, I would die. Like I would just start crying. I would never be able to do that. I couldn't

deceive someone like that. No naming names, but have you ever worked with a medium and been like I don't know.

There's definitely a lot of like interesting characters. I mean, we've been doing this for years. There's a lot of people that like you're like,

h there's like no way that that can be correct. Yeah. Yeah. So, definitely a couple for sure. But then on the flip side, have you had things be like, "Holy [ __ ]

yeah, we've experienced that as a group." But yeah, 1,000%. So it's like, yeah, I believe in some and then I think some are scam artists.

That's what I think. That's pretty much what I think too. I do think people have that ability

like mediums especially, I feel like, but I think there's a lot of people who are just kind of looking for the money.

Yeah, for sure. I think I'm like probably 90% maybe 80 85% are fake. And then there's 10% that real because I think most people do it for the money.

And I think the people that are out there that are doing it genuinely to help people and you can tell that they're either not taking it for the money or like it's not their main gig. It's just like a side thing that they do. I think those people are a lot more believable. Other people that are doing it for like research and stuff like that, I think that's much more believable. But like

all [clears throat] the little mom and pop shops that are like a psychic 50% off today, it's like okay you right. your stomach ends meet actually.

Uh so it's it's much different. I've definitely been to psychics and had them tell me things and I've been like what?

That's not accurate at all. Yeah. But then on the flip side, I've been to psychics and they've like predicted things in my life that have happened and I've been like, "Holy shit."

Yeah. It just depends. When we first started this, I was like, "Yeah, sure. Someone can tell the future." But now I'm like, "Oh, wait. Someone can probably tell the future. What is going on here? Wait a second. This is insane." Yeah.

Uh, but I heard someone describe it as like it's just another one of the human senses and some people have more dormant than others. Just like some people have perfect pitch, you know, it's like very rare but humans can't have that and then it's like people do it. It happens. You know, it's just one of these things that like, you know, a very select few people have that ability to see certain things or frequencies that others can't. And so with that logic, I was like, that kind of makes sense. Like the idea of something like a perfect pitch or like you know the people that are like the fastest people in the world or something. I was like there people with superhuman type of talents and it isn't too farfetched to believe that some talents can help you see things or hear things that are not necessarily uh accessible to everybody.

Yeah, definitely. Each medium too has like a different sort of skill that we've we've found it seems like. So, like we've met some that are only able to see figures or people, whatever. Um, but then there's some that like can feel it. There's some that use like the clarommancy and stuff that use like the bone throwing. Yeah. Just a lot of different techniques to to contact or see the afterlife. It's interesting.

It is interesting. I feel like the ones who do like, and this is just me, when they do like a big audience of people,

those are the ones that I'm like, I don't buy it. I do not buy stage and stuff. Yeah. I just can't buy it.

My girl Teresa Caputo. I Oh, she's a Long Island, right? She's Long Island medium. I don't know.

I I do believe her. I don't want It's You know, I believe her period. Yeah. I believe her. Okay.

I just love her. I'm skeptical. I've seen her show when I was like little. I loved it. So, I'm like

I loved the show when I was too. It's just the audience, the big audience ones. of like

it's hard when you see like shows of like mentalists or like illusionists that like you think whoa

how in the world did they know that but then it's just like you know a trick that they've done a 100 thousand times

of hand or that's the thing some quick thing that we don't see and when you really break it down sometimes when they do like the big audience things when you break down how they get to the answer it's like so clear how they get there that you're like

in the moment you don't think that yeah people give information and they don't realize they are.

That's very true. Yeah, that was a really good cold reading and stuff like that.

I love seeing the people who like won't give information though and the psychic is actually for real and they're like basically nothing. Yeah, you are one of those people.

I always go whenever we go to a psychic or any tarot [clears throat] card, I'd give nothing. I will just sit there and I want to see.

I take my rings off. I won't like even show that I'm there. Like nothing. They're like, does that make sense? And she's like I'm like maybe I don't know. just like you tell me.

No, no, no. Keep going. You know [clears throat] better than I do. Well, I'm like yes. And when my husband said that, you know, my dog from four years ago,

we lived here and I start crying. I'm like, that's so Yeah. Like I'm on to something.

Oh, baby. So, we're going to we'll move on to um we'll do a little game. Hell yeah.

Games with love games. We'd love to do a would you rather. Okay. Okay. Yeah, we're going to start off with that. So,

are you guys participating or is it just us? We always participate. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool.

Um All right. So, would you rather let a Ouija board spirit possess your right hand for 24 hours

or you both like Wait a second. That's so specific. It is. Or would you rather let Zach beans narrate a few months of your life in A DRAMATIC VOICEOVER?

OH, THAT'S a dream come true. Oh my god. Yeah. TV narration. We love Zack Higgins. He is the king of paranormal. If if he was like, "Now you're going to go downstairs

and eat some cereal." I would actually be so happy. He can make literally like a puppy terrifying, you know.

No, it's actually so true. His narration is, you know, his narrations are like top tier.

They are cuz they're crazy. They're intense. It would be like a slow narration. I feel like he's just like, "Now we're going to the car." And you're like, "Come on, come on, I have to go."

Drive me a little crazy. I feel like I've been having someone narrate my life would drive me insane.

I was going to say I kind of I would think it's hilarious for like maybe a couple of hours. Like I'd be like, "This is so fun."

I wouldn't even make it a couple hours. I think hour three I'd be like, "You can [ __ ] leave now."

Like alone time. Yeah, [clears throat] that's true. But I also don't want my hand possessed for 24 hours.

Yeah. What if you like kill somebody? That's the thing, dude. It's like idle hand. I didn't think of that.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It could be. Okay. Your right hand can do a lot. It's true. Your right hand can do a lot. But also, Zach's narrating your life for a few months or 24 hours.

Months. Crazy. Oh [ __ ] That's true. So, you could fix this. If you've ever seen the movie Idle Hands, you can at least try to fix it. So, if it's 24 hours,

okay, you could lock yourself in a room. Ooh, true. You could maybe like handcuff your hands.

You could handcuff yourself and I would just watch some [ __ ] TV. Oh, that's a good idea. And your hands just like

Yeah, your hands just going crazy over here. You're just like letting it do its thing.

I'm doing that. Yeah, that's smart. Okay, I'm changing. We're Yeah, that big length of time. I need

I would I would use that time to record a documentary about my life and that's pre pre- narrated. You know

that's pretty smart actually. There you go. Yeah, you've already got the narration [snorts] down.

That's sick. All right, so next. Would you rather accidentally summon a Victorian ghost who refuses to leave until you let them co-host a vlog or would you summon a demon who only communicates through Sam and Colby fan edits on Tik Tok? I love how specific these are. Who came up with them?

That is amazing. Hilarious. We tried to tailor them to our guests as you can see.

Oh man, I feel like we are being communicated by Sam and Kobe edits on TikTok all the time. [gasps]

I mean, that's so funny. Like I want to I want to choose that one cuz it's so funny. But like practicality, I'd probably be like the first one honestly

because [snorts] like think about it. If you had a ghost like co co- vlog, like that's so viral.

You're breaking the internet. You also essentially already do that. Like they're kind of like background stars in your videos, you know?

Exactly. But like imagine we're like, "Hey guys, Sam and K like what's up?" Like we're here with And he's like, "Oh." And this is an invisible guy like

I actually love that. I get that. What are you doing, Sam? Yeah. I think to your point, the the viral vlog is there, you know. Plus, like, you know, I feel like a ghost could get other ghosts to get active, you know?

That's true. He like summons the other ones. Yeah, exactly. The ghost would probably be the best ghost hunter out there.

Probably [clears throat] hunt what you know. Cuz he'd be like, "You're doing this all wrong. Let me tell you how to do this." Like

he's like, "This is what we respond to." You know? Yeah. The perfect translator, you know?

Yeah. Or is he like us where he's like, "What was that? Imagine like, "Did you see that?"

He's freaked out by you. He's like, "Why are you here?" Like, "What's going on?" He's like, "Oh my god, it's freezing in here suddenly."

I thought that was you. That's awesome. Yeah. I think I would want to I would want to have a third voice [snorts] on the pod that's a ghost.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. I mean, we do. Nicholas. Oh, we do. Yeah. When we do our listener tail episodes, we do Ghost Tube and there's a ghost Nicholas who like [ __ ] with us while we record them. He just like has things to say about the listener.

He doesn't like me. We're not We're not best friends forever. He loves you. Running theme in our life.

Wow. Yeah. I don't know what I did. I don't I don't know what I did either. So, I don't know why.

Yeah. Beef with Nicholas. All right. Beef with Nicholas big time. We We've been friends like the last We've been We've been amicable the last couple times.

Dead men love me apparently. I don't know. Dead. I don't know what that's about.

Yeah, but we'll go with it. All right. Would you rather use a possessed doll as your permanent cameraman or have to share your bed with a ghost who won't stop whispering, "Smash that subscribe button until dawn?"

Until dawn. Until dawn. All night. Oh man, I would film that. That's so funny. These are so unique. These are amazing.

Never heard any of these before. Probably smash the subscribe. Like that's only like a what 12 hour thing maybe.

Yeah. And then you don't have to say it for a whole day. Says it for you and you can but you're sharing your bed with them and you're trying to say

what you've experienced before. I've experienced that full circle moment. I just hear him. You're like smash that subscribe.

Stop. Um. Yeah. But like imagine giving like a camera to like a haunted doll. Like are they even going to be able to like hold it up with a shaky cam moment? Are they going to throw it at your head?

And then you're getting the double chin angle all the time. They're never going to give you good lighting for

not not the good angle for sure. Would be sick if the if the possessed doll was like a cast member and like just like hanging out with us all the time, but the camera

not cool. Just Annabelle like running next to you or whatever. I mean, imagine like it was me, you, and little Annabelle

and just Annabelle with the camera. That is a really bad angle from down there.

Their their B camp, you know, like Oh, yeah. She's like the B cam. And we're like, "Annabelle, just go film the corner. Go film shots."

He gets pissed. Go take our thumbnails. Oh, dang it. [snorts] See, we wouldn't have to really worry about that. I

Yeah, we really don't. We could have a possessed doll be our camera person for one episode a month.

Yeah. Guest episodes. We'll be like, "This is just our possessed doll. You don't buy them that."

Yeah. But I already have my kids are already jumping in my bed. I don't need a ghost in there as well. Yeah, I'm not get too hot.

I'm cranky in the night time, so I don't want to I don't want to deal with that.

Yeah, you punch the ghost. I would absolutely punch the ghost. My husband says whenever he wakes me up that I like go into a fight position.

I wake up like that. When he woke me up yesterday, he was like, "Are you okay? Are you dead?"

4 p.m. 4 p.m. I'm ready to fight. I just wake up angry. Just wake up like every time. I do that thing too like I'll be ready for motherhood when it comes because I go when I wake up.

You have to do that. Oh my god. That's like the mom thing that you have to do. My kids tell me all the time. They're like, "You sound like you're dying when you wake up." Cuz they'll be like, "Mom." AND I'M LIKE,

"WHAT?" I'M LIKE, "It's fine." Drew's always do that. I'm like, "I don't know. I'm not like trying to sleep."

Question. Getting ready to terrify your children in the middle of the night when they need water.

Let's go. Uh, actually, yeah, I would definitely not have the ghost in my bed. for me.

It would [snorts] be much more useful for you. Yeah. Um, so mine is, would you rather accidentally marry a ghost through a botched seance wedding ritual? Like, oops, I married one of these.

Whoa. Or have a poltergeist that insists on being your chaotic third roommate and constantly messes with your editing files?

Oh, you're my name. You're either getting married in a botch seance to a ghost.

To a ghost. Does that mean 50% of our assets are going to this gift? Well, you maybe can sign a prenup, I guess. Unless you do the You could do a postnap.

A postnap. Do a post. Postnap. A prenup. But after the fact, I have no idea. Or cuz cuz this poltergeist is [ __ ] up your editing.

Oh, like you get to the point where you're happy with the video and he's like, "How about I add a laugh track?"

That is the literal worst fear of my life. Yeah. Yeah. Who's to say even if you accidentally marry this ghost, you don't fall in love?

That's true. That's beautiful. That's true. I like the optimism there. You know, people are marrying everything now.

Yeah. You don't know. People get married to like cars and [ __ ] You can marry yourself. Why not marry ghost? It's kind of dope.

I'm trying to think though. It would be a really hard conversation with our girlfriends, you know, like just being like "Hey

you know, feel like it was an accident. Hey, we got to talk about an open relationship here. We're married. What do you think about um sister wife life?

Yeah, exactly. With a ghost. Can we introduce a third? Cuz I did by accident. My bad.

And now the ghost has to be It was a wild weekend, guys. It's kind of like a scribe thing actually.

It is. That's actually exactly what it is. Very much that. Can we ask a qu like how long are you roommates with this poltergeist trickster ghost?

That's through editing season. Yeah. Once you're done editing the rest of your editing career,

yeah, you just get screwed up files. That would ruin like he pops in. He's your roommate, so I guess you could like buy him out of the lease, but

I don't know. That easy for you. He like deletes the most important investigation. Every video he's like,

that's the thing. That's what you're That's what you're facing. He adds like old timey car horn sounds in the middle of your video.

JUST LIKE every now and again. God feel like apparently I already have uh you know extra ghostly friends around all the time. So I wouldn't mind you know having one in the relationship too

honestly. Oh man. I mean I I would hope that when I get married it would be for life and so like

I'm trying to think I'm not divorcing even if it's a ghost. So I think I might choose the the roommate honestly. Yeah. Yeah. cuz I don't know if I'm going to be like editing until I'm like dead. You know what I mean? So like

that's honorable. You just deal with it for a while. Yeah. Yeah. I think marriage is more important at the end of the day.

Yeah. That's true. That's beautiful. I respect that. I respect mine. Sam's like, "Okay,

optimism of, you know, falling in love with this." They were both beautiful answers in different ways. I like them both.

Real nice. Uh, I would not. [gasps] I don't want another husband. No. God, I like mine.

I like mine as well. Uh, but I don't want anymore. [snorts] I don't I don't edit, so never have, never will.

I know. It would be Mikey who would really be. I know. Well, back in the day, you used to edit.

I know. I used to edit. I've never touched that [ __ ] And I know how annoying that would be to have somebody touching it.

I know. Now it would just be Mikey's problem. So, I guess I'm going with poltergeist guys. Poltergeist will live with Mikey and Dave.

Oh, okay. They're So, they're Mikey's roommate. Yeah, now they're Mikey's. Oh, god.

That's pretty easy. Sorry, Mikey. Just get wrecked. Off camera, Mikey's like, "Fuck you guys, dude."

Yeah, cuz I'm not getting married [clears throat] during a ritual. No, it's a no for me.

No, no, no. Accidentally or intentionally? No. All right, so we're going with Poltergeist. Sorry, Mikey. Love you so much. Uh, so the next one is, this one's going to be hard, I think.

Okay. Would you rather have Bloody Mary show up every time you say subscribe or god

have a demon gently bite you every time you plug merch? Just just a little love bite every time.

Do we say subscribe or do we plug merch more? I think we plug merch more than we ask for subscrib.

That's true. You don't need as many subscribers now. You're like, "Well, I got 15 million." [gasps]

You know what? That's actually like That's for you. Whoa. Yeah. I So, I would probably say, "Oh, man." Actually,

what do you want to have happen? Well, it's like like I'm trying to think about like how hard is

So, Bloody Mary's just going to show up. I don't know what she's going to do. That's the other thing. She didn't know what she was going to do. She's just showing up. Or

basically like are you into stalking women or demons? Who? It's just a gentle bite.

I feel like a gentle bite is like like at least you know what's coming. You know what I mean?

Say it's finishing myself. He's like kind of nice. Like it's not breaking skin. We're just

Okay. It's just like a little nibble on. You're like Yeah. You're just like by the merch. Um, yeah, I would probably do that cuz what's Bloody Mary going to do? Like

I get the gentle bite then. Gentle bite. By a demon. I like the gentle bite, too.

Gentle bite. Gentle bite. It would be really cool if we started every video and we were just like, "Hey, like watch this." And you like filmed a gentle bite.

I explore merch. And then you were like, "Look at that." Damn. That's kind of like two birds, one stone, you know,

cuz then every viral clip is us plugging our merch. Exactly. Smart. That's actually genius. You're like, "How did you get ghost to bite?" [snorts]

How to get a ghost to bite. Oh, shopexplore.com. That's [ __ ] awesome. Gentle [clears throat] bite. That's so funny.

That's the important part. I would take gentle bite, too, cuz I have a puppy, so I do have a demon biting me. It's not that gently.

Wow. Yeah. You're all used to it. No, I'm so [snorts] used. I have like scars and [ __ ] at this point.

Dang, you put it up with it. Yeah, I would say gentle bite. I think I'm going with gentle bite cuz again it's a gentle bite.

But I I want to I kind of me wants to see what Bloody Mary is up to. That's a gamble.

I know. I don't know if that reckless. I'm also with you a lot. So, can you not?

I was say she's showing up though. You know, it's like one like boom. But the subscribe could be like visiting you in your sleep.

That's true. Yeah. What if you like talk in your sleep and you're like subscribe? It's just like all my sleep talking is just like and subscribe.

That's all we dream about. I love the merch. Yeah. I think you know what? I'm going with Demon.

Yeah, cuz I I don't think me and Bloody Mary would get along very well. Yeah. No,

she seems angry. Two strong gals. Yeah. She seems too too angry. Yeah. You know,

I was so scared of Bloody Mary when I was little. I still remember the first time I did it. Yeah.

Yeah. I like screamed and ran downstairs. I got in trouble, too, which was lame.

Yeah, that's stupid. Yeah, that's funny. I've never done it. You've never done it?

I've never like I've been around people who have done it, but I refuse to do it.

Oh, it was like such a sleepover thing. We We absolutely should. Bloody Mary in my bathroom.

Let's do it in a haunted location. Oh, yeah. Next haunted location. Yeah. Yeah. Don't bring it in your house.

And then Bloody Mary Halloween party somewhere in there. Itinerary down. Maybe at the Halloween party.

We invite Bloody Mary to our Halloween party. Honestly, that's a draw. It is. Well, would you rather have a cursed Ouija board that will sometimes randomly spell out your most embarrassing memories for everybody?

Oh, embarrassing and like upsetting memories like Oh, and I added to it. I added to it because this one's pretty wild. Or would you rather summon a Victorian child ghost, but that Victorian child ghost is only going to refer to you as Daddy Colby and Papa Sam?

Awesome. Definitely the child ghost. Are you kidding me? Sick. Like definitely. I'd just be like, uh I I think it'd be just funny honestly.

Like I'm not your dad. I'm not your dad. But uh but I'll be your dad. Check this out. I guess I'll be your dad.

You adopted a ghost child. There we go. That's so funny. That's so funny. Yeah, I feel like that'd be awesome to have an extra like, you know, character in the vid that's just like your

ghost kid. Papa Sam. Papa Sam. I think that's a valid choice. Are you Do you want another kid?

Why not? Another ghost kid? Yeah. Call you Mama Alina. Yeah. Mama Alina. All right. Why not? We'll go with it cuz I don't want my my [ __ ] spelled out in a Ouija board.

Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't want that cuz that mean you you have to do a Ouija board with other people and so other people are just doing your

stuff. Like the ghost was lying. I swears. Whoa. Yeah. I'd go I'd go ghost kid.

Victorian ghost [clears throat] for sure. Yeah. No one needs to know those secrets, you know.

No, those are locked up. Yep. Mhm. For sure. All right. Would you rather spend a night alone in a pitch black asylum uh with a Ouija board

or spend a night in your own bathroom, but every mirror shows a cursed clown version of yourself?

Oh god, I loved your reactions. And you're alone in the asylum with no [clears throat] one else. Just you yourself

with a Ouija board. With a Ouija board. The first one sounds like an intense version of our normal YouTube videos. It does.

And the second one sounds like I'm gonna have nightmares forever. For the rest of your life,

trauma traumatic experience. So I probably Yeah, I would agree. The first one you said one night is the first.

Both are one night. Oh, both are one night. Okay. You just have to stay in the bathroom all night

and just look at your mirrors are just Yeah, dude. I just feel like that's a great idea for a vid.

Yeah. like extreme. There we go. Let's do solo challenges with a Ouija board. Like we're turning all this into like a business. We're like

wait s down. Do you have a pad of paper? Let's do that. GM. I'll probably do the first too. The Ouija board for sure.

Yeah. Mhm. I think I would do my own bathroom and probably just like not look at the mirrors.

Oh, close your eyes. Blindfold yourself and fall asleep on the floor. Yeah. I only have two mirrors, so

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean I didn't know you could just like not look. Yeah. I feel like maybe you have to look.

You have to look. Yeah. I feel like that's too easy to avoid it. The cursed clown.

Maybe maybe you have mirrors all around your room. Oh, [ __ ] I just added to it. Damn. Okay.

I had to make it harder. I was like that. We got to make that harder. Cruel. I don't want to be in a pitch black asylum alone. At least in if I'm in my bathroom. I'm in my own house, you know.

Don't knock it until you try it. Yeah, that's true. Alone though. Scary. But the views. But I love you. Think about this. Do it for the likes.

I think I'm going bathroom. It's one night. I can do it. I want to say The Asylum cuz I want to do that really bad, but I know myself and I would absolutely panic.

The other night you were like, if we have to do anything else, I can't go in a room by myself. Like, I will lose my mind.

Oh, that's awesome. And then I was like, and then when we were in there, I was like, okay, I could probably go in a room by myself. But then I was in the back [clears throat] going up the stairs and I almost crawled over all of you. Like I was about to like parkour above you.

You were like grabbing me LIKE PULLING ME BACK WAS LIKE PITCH BLACK behind me. Oh walking at the end of a line in a pitch black area.

It's the worst. And it was towards the end of the night and I think I just felt way more on edge at the end of the night. I went to grab something by myself and I was like why the [ __ ] did I volunteer to do this?

Oh yeah. I was like freaky. I remember it was like right at the bottom of the stairs so I was like I can do it. But then I was like

it's scary. It's a different feeling for sure. Yeah. I literally almost scaled all of you and jumped in front of them.

So funny. You know, like there everything you like feel behind you, but then in front they're going so slow. It's always like go faster.

I felt like you guys were at a dead halt and I was like, I'm dying back here. Somebody's going to kill me back here again. You're not moving.

I know. [snorts] That was scary. Um, so I would say bathroom probably. Yeah, I would do bathroom.

Yeah. And just deal with the consequences of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've also again we've had experience being in one of these places. So, I think it would just be cool.

Yeah. Like been there, done that. That's I I would do it if I was with one other person,

the asylum. Just one other person would make me feel better. Yeah. Yeah. I would do it with other person, too.

Yeah. Me alone? No. No. All right. Would you rather be locked in Waverly Hills with a spirit that mimics your best friend's voice, so probably each other's voices, or be chased through the woods by a skinwalker holding a KFC bucket and calling you dinner?

Oh my god, that's so sadistic. Would you rather? Oh my. Okay. Well, how did you come up with that?

You know what's insane? This This sounds crazy. What's happening? He's like so many KFC buckets

literally all the time at parallel locations. All the KFC buckets. Well, not KFC like specifically, but the the doppelganger sort of voice mimicking has happened to us like two or three times

with each other. Yes. Yes. We were in Ferrar Elementary and um it was late at night and we were done filming. I was like on the phone with my girlfriend and I could have sworn that Sam was like, "Yo," like three times like calling me because it was like super late and like voices echo in that like gym. So I thought he was just like, "Yo, get to bed." And so like I came in, I was just like, "Why were you calling me?" And he was like, "That was not me at all."

That's wild. I hate that a lot. The idea of mimics. Yeah. So as much as I want like a skinwalker with KFC to chase after me, that's hilarious. I'd probably do the mimic cuz I've experienced

Yeah. You've done it before. Uhhuh. Mhm. The mimic is really scary. We've had that happen at the conjuring house before some other places as well where we just hear each other's voices or like EVPs will sound like our voices.

Sometimes like we'll have uh on the spirit box, you know, like the things that like the SS method type of stuff like the the voices that come through the radio sound like us and each other and it's like so scary.

Super strange. That was scary. There was like a really scary um time in the Conjuring house uh that like we were sitting on a couch just doing research and um I forgot exactly what I said, but like I said a word and it repeated it back to me. Like it sounded like it was coming from like outside or whatever and and it happened on camera by the way. So we have it all filmed. We posted everything like where I'm like yo and it's like yo or something like back to me

[snorts] um multiple times and then I say it in the same like amount of volume. I try it louder. I try it softer or whatever and then the echo just stops

in the same direction. Three or four times before it stopped. Yeah. Like it was like coming back multiple times and later that same week cuz we stayed a week at the conjuring house.

I I heard the same type of voice in the basement when I was alone. Kobe was not even in the house

and I just heard like his voice like ring and it was like, "Oh, what?" Like he's he's back. No, he's out in the woods.

It was insane. Yeah, that's mimics are really scary. Well, cuz they also feel like very dialogical cuz they're like trying to draw you in and it's like why?

Most people Oh, go ahead. Most people believe that like mimics are like evil spirits.

Yeah, for sure. I've had an experience in this house where I So weird. I was in the bathroom and I was walking out and I saw Elena like in the doorway and I went to say something to her and then she was gone and I came in here and she was sitting right there. She's always sitting right there

and I literally I was like were you just in the bathroom and she was like no like you were just in the bathroom right here. I was like no. And you saw I was like she wide. I was like, "No, I just saw you." Oh my god.

And Mikey's experienced it too. Like he's seen her in like a like out of the corner of his eye or like in a doorway somewhere and then she'll like appear and he's like, "Were you just there?" And she's like, "No,

that's really terrifying." Yeah. And I don't know why you just showing up everywhere.

I've been trying to figure it out. You're in three places at once. It's crazy. I'm doing the most.

I don't know. I'm like, "Damn." Yeah. I don't know why. It's scary. It's free to be up. Maybe in this case it's like residual energy or something cuz this is your house.

So I mean it felt [ __ ] weird. So I don't know. I don't like it's just sinister that they'll disguise themselves as people you love or know, best friends, whatever. It's crazy.

Yeah, it's really scary. I know cuz I've seen these like videos. I don't know which ones are true or not, but where they'll hear people like outside their door [snorts]

like speaking like someone they know and being like, "Open the door. I'm outside." There's a whole like you know series about that thing. I don't know what's called

I would never recover. Yeah. One that we saw in particular and it was like the girl thought it was her mom.

Oh yeah. And then she the like guttural noise that she makes. She like screams or something.

Yeah. Cuz I think she says like you're not my mom and it starts to make this like horrible sound on the other side of the door that like ruined me.

My goosebumps had goosebumps. I want to pull it up. I know. We'll have to show it to you. So scary. Horrible.

It was wild. There's a video of this. Yeah. Let me see. I know. You need to find it. Hold up.

Jeez. Are you there, honey? Open the door for mommy. E. Every time they get really close.

Oh, I hate that so much. I hate it. Yeah. Oh my god. So scary. Even if it's not real. Great accident.

I would not open that door. I would jump out the window. House down. So scary. I hate that. So that's that.

Disgusting. Yeah, it is disgusting. It really is. That's a burn your house type down.

Yes. Yeah. That's over. All right. Um, so next, would you rather Yeah. Would you after that anyway,

would you rather wake up every morning with a new cryptic symbol tattooed on your arm by ghosts

or be cursed so that every mirror shows your future funeral? Oh god, that's so dark.

Every day you get a new tattoo. Yeah, we who knows how big it is. Every morning it's a cryptic symbol. You're going to look like a gang member for sure.

You're going to be like head to toe eventually right? Yeah. It'll probably only take like a year for it to like fill up.

Yeah. Whoa. Free tats. It's true. Hopefully they're good artists. Hopefully. That's the thing that would freak me out.

Yeah. What if they're shitty? Yeah. I was going to say, what's the worst? Like I have dreams all the time where I got like a horrible tattoo and I'm like, "What do I do?"

Imagine trying to explain that to your friends though. Like you wake up and you're just like, "I swear demons are tattooing this on me. like they're like, "Okay,

cheers." But seeing like your funeral, that's like so mentally like messed up. You guys are sadistic.

You guys are [ __ ] up for this. I kind of want to see my funeral to be like, "Who came?

Who's there?" You know what? Then if you saw it every day, you could see who your real friends are.

Yeah, that's actually kind of like a great tool. If things change, you all of a sudden see somebody not there.

You can edit your funeral plans. Like, no, everybody looks like [ __ ] How about you wear this?

True. Yeah, this kind of looks a little lame. Let's get a DJ up in here. Something like that.

Get a better bomber. I look like [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like it would be like a constant like reminder that you're going to die like eventually. And so it's like just

it's like a good perspective. So like you're like better live today well bar or whatever and you're just like having a great time. you're looking like everybody.

But like with the tattoo thing, you can become like an experiment in a way. I'm doing a business.

Yeah. And like you could just be like you be like, "Hey government, like check this out." Like like keep me in like a lab or whatever and watch what happens to me every single day.

Yeah. You want to get the government involved. That's a good point too. That's that is brave. That is a good point.

You want the government to lock you in a lab. Yeah. I don't know about that. This will never leave.

I just You run your own experiments on YouTube for views. Views. Not the government.

Never the government. If I could profit off of it on YouTube. Yeah. Always be closing.

Hell yeah. Always be closing. Funny. Yeah. All right. So, you're going I think I'm going to do tattoo. Yeah. I'm doing funeral. I think about my death all all the time anyway.

Yeah. I'm I'm doing funeral. I mean, I love tattoos, but you only see the same artist. I know. That's true. He's not a demon. His name is Matt.

He's not a demon. All right. Sorry. Hey, Matt. Uh, yeah. I Yeah, I would say the funeral cuz I also always think about my own death and I assume

I'm one of those people that's like, you might die tomorrow. Like, do that thing. And I tell everybody else about

eat that cupcake. Eat that cupcake. I I guess you could avoid mirrors. That's true.

Yeah, you could. You could you'd run into them every day. I don't look in mirrors a lot anyway.

Yeah. Not like every day. Every it would be like a morning thing where I like start my day being like mortality and then it would just be like

I can avoid it would be kind of weird like doing your makeup. Oh, driving. You have to look in mirrors a lot driving. I would actually see your general every time.

Switch laser does this. [gasps] Or does cameras count too? Like if you're looking at your phone probably

I can't I feel like we can't do any reflection. That's going to Yeah, I think your bathroom mirror.

Bathroom mirror. Only bathroom. Not the rear view mirror of the car. Dangerous.

Okay, then I'm switching my answer as well. I think I would just like come up with a routine like get ready every day kind of like expect like I'm going to see my funeral and then just you would get used to it your mortality for a minute every day. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The tattoos I feel like could get wy. I'm a control freak and I need to pick my own tattoos.

Oh yeah. Yeah. And I feel bad going to Matt later and being like I'm so sorry. Can you fix this one?

Yeah. So, yeah, I'm going with the uh with the funeral. Yeah, funeral across the board.

So, we have two more. Cool. First one is, would you rather hear a demon whisper your name every night at 3:33 a.m.?

Exactly. Or have a Victorian ghost lady follow you into every bathroom you enter?

Oh my god. Intrusive. That is intrusive. Both are pretty intrusive, honestly. Probably the Victorian lady.

Really? I did not expect that. I mean, I just feel like would I'm thinking like long term here with like the demon.

Well, first of all, can you wear headphones when you're sleeping and then kind of like cancel it out?

Nah. Does your wife or husband like hear? No, they're fine. It's just you. So, they don't You're the one that has to live with it.

Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say it's your problem. It's your problem. Interrupted sleep or interrupted bathroom times.

So, is she like watching you while you're doing your business? I feel like she is. She's not modest. She's like, "You should light a candle."

She's like, "What'd you eat?" You know? Oh, man. I mean, that's more of like her problem, you know? Like, that's my problem.

Well, the demon is my problem. Really comfortable with her. Be like, "Yeah, watch this one, bro.

Can you paper towel?" Technically, if she wasn't able to like communicate with anybody else, it's kind of like,

how do you know that's not happening you like right now? Like, yeah. Like, that's your little thing.

Yeah. You know what I mean? With her. Yeah. M I would share that moment with Victoria goes and that would be her problem and I would just be like sucks for you. But then if I'm sleeping and there's something in my ear every single night that sucks for me I'm waking up every night.

Interrupted sleep. I mean I kind of agree. Instead of scrolling TikTok you're like

talking to a ghost. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of cool. Yeah. Someone walks in and you're like talking to yourself like

throwing ideas to her. This guy crazy. Shoot. You know what? That does kind of sound nice.

I'd do the ghost lady. Yeah. I don't want to be one. Is ours a ghost lady or is it a ghost man though?

No, ours is a ghost lady. She was ghost lady. Ghost lady. Sure. Yeah, totally. Ghost man. No.

No. Yeah. Throw that out of there. Yeah. Ghost lady. I'd just be like, "All right, girl. Hey, girl. Yeah, let's talk about stuff."

Mhm. I like that. I love it. Yeah, that's an easy one because I don't want my name's whispered in the middle of the night by all the time children all the time. So,

you don't need to ask. I don't need someone else. Yeah. Uh, so the next one is, would you rather get trapped in a haunted mirror dimension with a ghost version of yourself?

Whoa. A haunted mirror dimension or That's good. Have a poltergeist that only like forever that only communicates with you by throwing tacos at your head.

That's awesome. Free tacos. I would love that, right? I feel like just wear a helmet everywhere you go.

Sorry. Thank you. Imagine how viral that is. If like four or five times throughout every YouTube video we just get a tacos

like where did that come from? If it's Is it like hard shell or soft? You could choose whatever your preference is.

I think you would be able to talk to them. A beefy five layer burrito, bro. Oh, I'm down for that. Yeah,

throw some nachos at you. Yeah, but if it's like hard shell, I feel like that could like poke out your eyes.

Yeah, that could get that could get uh dangerous. Get ugly and messy. I feel Yeah, it's looking messy.

Yeah, I would do the like a soft shell beefy five layer burrito from Taco Bell. Oh,

damn. A little choosy here. [ __ ] Kind of crazy. I have a fight about this. I'm like, are we ordering that after? Yeah.

Yeah, we are. Now, we're at Taco Bell today and it will be thrown right at our face.

I would definitely choose the tacos. Oh, yeah. I love tacos big time. I'm a Yeah, big taco people.

So I'd be like, "Talk to me all the time. Let's go." Yeah. Violently hard. I know. Unless he's like humming it at your head.

I know. What if it ruined tacos for you? Tacos for you. That could That could What's the other option? Trapped in a

stuck in a mirror dimension with your ghost self. For how long? Ooh, good question.

I think for that one for a week. A week. But the tacos are forever. Should we pause? We probably should.

Oh yeah, Blanch always has something to say. It's always [clears throat] at the end of the recording. She's like, "Here I am, bitch." She always does.

I'm trying to ponder this. A week. A week. It's not that bad. Mr. Beast challenge.

Continue. I feel like Mr. Beast would somehow like in the future come up with that challenge. You're getting trapped here for a week.

You're inside the mirror with a ghost version of yourself. I might do a ghost version of myself. I feel like you could learn a lot in that instance. That's true.

And then I could continue just having tacos when I want to. At your leisure. At my leisure.

Yeah. A ghost version of yourself could be cool. Yeah. To show yourself. What if they're an [ __ ]

Well, they're you. So, and then you're stuck there for a week. Are you an [ __ ]

That looks like you sometimes. Not to yourself. They're changing it. The mirror version of yourself is the [ __ ] version of yourself.

Is the [ __ ] version. It's like the bad part of you. [gasps] Oh, you're living with the bad part of you. Oh, that's scary.

You have to come to terms with the negative side of a lot. Maybe that's like a therapy session, though.

I feel I'm sticking with that. I think that'd be a cool experience. Might come out in person.

Mhm. Yeah. We don't know how hard the tacos are hurting your face. Oh, no. And we love tacos, so we don't want them ruined.

And you don't know when they like materialize in the air. Like if they just materialize as they're coming at you.

I don't eat in my bed, so I don't want tacos on my bed. I don't want that. True.

That's very true. Yeah. You're driving, you just get smacked in the head with the talking like, "Oh god."

Trying to take your everything shower. You have like the music on and everything's nice and calm and then like a giant burrito hits you in the face. Terrible.

Right after you finish your shower and then boom, and you have to go back in the shower and you're like, "God, you just washed your hair and you get like queso in your hair."

No, that'd be awful. Or like right after you blow dry your hair. No. No mirror dimension.

I'm I'm facing the shitty version of myself right now. So, are we all doing shitty versions of ourselves?

I think so. I was going to go for the tacos. You're still doing tacos. Even after all that, you're take another shower.

You may kiss the bride. Like taco in the face. Taco in the face. Like you just start getting to the point where you're like catching them in your mouth.

I know. Got to get them gains. I like it. So, we got three mirror dimensions. One taco.

I'm a taco demon. All right. We'll just take your tacos. Okay. True. True. You know, shares. Perfect. I could feed the homeless.

We made this video. Wow. Here we go. Nice tacos wherever you go. That's great. All right. I think we learned a lot.

I think we did. We definitely did. We We know ourselves much better than each other.

Yeah. Um, so let's do the two truths and a lie ghost edition. You guys are going to tell us two truths and a lie.

If you want to do it together, you can. Or if you want to do separate ones, you can. and we'll try to determine and yeah, we'll guess your last.

I already have I already have this. I was I've been thinking. All right. And you want to do a two truth and one line? I'll do a true truth and a lie.

Sure. Okay. [snorts] Okay. Um so I'm just going to be looking straight here so you can't look at my eyes.

I know. I'm not [clears throat] ready poker face. Yeah. Seriously. Um, one time I went to the Velisa Axe murder house and um, during like one of the last investigations, there was a spirit that tugged on the back of my crew neck that I was wearing and it scared me and made my eyes tear up instantly and um, yeah, was one of the only times that's ever happened where I've I've felt like a physical sort of touch like that.

Holy [ __ ] Um, another time I was in a spot called Bowowers Mansion. It was in Texas and I was speaking out to a ghost named Bernard who was known specifically to slam doors. Um, and at after I asked him to directly slam a door, it happened in front of my face. Um, and I instantly also broke out into tears, but this time down like my face. And it was one of the most traumatic jump scares I've had in my entire life.

Damn. Um, these are all convincing so far. I know. And then when I stayed in a week in the the conjuring house, I was forced to stay in the basement on the last night and uh was uncontrollably sobbing the entire time um until Sam was able to get me out at 5:00 a.m.

All of those so terrifying and real. Mhm. And they all involve crying. Yep. Oh, that's true. They do.

He cries a lot. Hey, what's your what's your astrological side? I'm a Capricorn. That's weird that you cry a lot.

I don't cry that much, guys. Those are like the best options. Okay. All right. It takes like ghostly intervention for you to cry.

Exactly. That's what it would take for me to cry for sure. I think the last one is a lie cuz I think that was Sam.

Okay. What do you mean? Um, do you know something? Am I working off of Intel? No, I'm not actually working off of Intel, but I'm working off like a possible memory of something I saw online.

Oh, okay. Okay. I didn't see any full videos or anything, but I remember when you guys were teasing it. Wait a second.

I'm not going to pick that just to be different. Okay. Just to be competitive, you mean?

I'm going with Bernard. Okay. The second one. Tell us. You were right. Yes. You was not in the I went to the basement one time, but I didn't cry.

So cry. I don't cry every single time. Every time. That was me in the basement crying till 5:00 a.m.

Holy [ __ ] Wasn't it something where like you saw your grandma, right? Yeah. House. It was crazy.

In the basement. Um, it was that was the reason why I was crying, but that was earlier in the week. I did go in the basement till 5:00 a.m. And it was really, really terrifying.

And you cried cuz it was so scary. Not in the basement. I just made that part up.

But he Yeah, he had an experience in the living room. Mhm. the basement in the middle of the night till 5:00 a.m. was where I heard Kobe's voice, the mimic that I was kind of describing earlier on the podcast where he was outside actually and like in the forest and I was like,

"Holy shit." Hearing his voice like call out when I was like alone. It was really really creepy.

Oh my god. We haven't been to the Conjuring house yet. I really want to go. I want to go so badly. You

guys have to go. I was supposed to go. I know. My husband actually got me like he knows me very well for our anniversary. He was like, "We're going to go on a tour of the country."

Oh, that's false. And there was like supposed to be a medium there and it was going to be really And I think he got sick right before and we weren't able to go.

Dang. He gets vertigo and it like knocks him down for like a week. Damn. It was weird to go that day.

So you guys got to go. I know. It's not far from us. Yeah. The Conjuring House is actually going up for auction on this Halloween.

Really? Yeah. The last owner um is Yeah. no longer like a part of it and so they're like literally selling the house.

Oh my god. So did Wait, did Matt Refe not buy it? Uh it's up for auction. He wants to. He's like going to be in the bidding, I'm sure.

Okay, I see. Yeah, Matt Refe just recently bought the Annabel doll. Yeah, in the War Museum.

In the War Museum. So that's like a different thing. But this kind Annabelle was missing.

The same the same Annabelle they they took on like tour and then Yeah. allegedly went like missing.

Yeah. But then halfway through, but then they got her. Yeah. Then they found her. Yeah. It was all kind of like a hoax though. Like the fact that she went missing, it was just kind of blown out of proportion. She went on tour and then like

because she wasn't at the house, people were she was missing. Well, she wasn't missing. She was on tour.

She was busy. She went to New Orleans like people were just blowing. She was filming for

She was not possessed all, you know. She was cam down the hallway aiming at a corner.

Oh, we have to go. I know. We have gone there. Yeah, they had crazy stuff. They did like the Estes method there. Some like really crazy things.

Yeah, you guys have to check out Two Girls, One Ghost. I think you would like them. They're like super spooky paranormal stuff.

Sounds good. Yeah, we love them. All right, for sure. Yeah, we'll do. All right, Sam, you're up.

Okay, I got it. Um, okay. These are going to be like about the paranormal community, not like about our experiences. Okay.

But okay. So, I'm [clears throat] also going to look at the uh the coffee. Okay. Sure. Okay. Um All right. There's been a paranormal story of a ghost who caused a disease that actually ended up becoming a virus that a lot of people got. There has been a confirmed death by a ghost. And there has been an Illuminati cave that turned to be haunted.

All right, we know the middle one is true cuz we covered that case. Yeah. [ __ ]

But we still have two to work with. What was the first one? It was the virus. The virus.

And then an Illuminati cave that was haunted. Mhm. I'm going with Illuminati cave.

I am, too, cuz that's like I feel like that's a conspiracy. [snorts] Um, it's the first one.

The virus virus. No, no ghost fire. I almost went there. An Illuminati cave. Yeah.

It's called Hellfire Caves in uh England. In England? Yeah. It's basically the Illuminati of

We did cover that thing. You guys know that Franklin going down there doing stuff.

Damn. Yeah, I covered it on cuz it's um like the Hellfire Club. Hellfire Club. Yeah.

Oh. Oh, I do remember that now. Damn it. They did a bunch of satanic rituals down in there and then it ended up becoming really haunted.

Yeah. What are the odds? You picked two cases we covered. Still tricked and I didn't remember the one that I covered. I mean, that's a lot of cases in our lives. It was

forgot you guys were the experts. That was great. My gut was saying the virus, too, and I didn't go with it.

Ah, go with your gut. I felt believable. Yeah. Good job. Well done. Let's go. Well done. All right. Well, we're going to move on to recording our next episode next week.

If there's anything you guys want to plug Yes. that plug away. Hell Week's coming in October. This is what This is coming out in like a week, right?

This is coming out a week from Monday. Yeah. Okay. We October for October. Our biggest series of the year launches on October 5th.

Oo. Um, and the finale. Do you want to talk about that a little bit? I don't want to say the wrong thing here,

but I think we should sprinkle a little bit. We This is going to be an exclusive for your guys' podcast.

Okay. Um, so for our Halloween finale, it just has to do with a really famous movie.

I think the most famous horror movie that's happened recently, like in the past movie that's happened recently.

The most famous horror movie we were able to get to go investigate. What? Everyone at home will know.

But maybe you guys aren't horror movie fans. There's been so many. I know. I'm trying to think of

Tell us off camera. Yeah, of course. Of course. Okay. I'm probably going to feel stupid afterwards.

No, I will. It has recently become the number one horror movie to hit any box office.

Damn. So, that's pretty cool. Anyway, I'm excited. That's so cool. Super Halloween. Yeah,

thank you for giving that exclusive on Morbid. Of course, of course. I'm so excited.

Anything else you guys want to plug? Just thanks for having us on. We love hanging out with you guys.

Thanks for coming. So, thank you guys so much for listening. We hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it

weird, but not so weird that you don't go check out Sam and Kobe's YouTube videos. Thank you. Thank you.

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What is discussed in "Episode 711: Dialing the Dead- A Seance with Sam & Colby"?

In order: 0:00 Escape Hotel, Hollywood Boulevard, Hot Topic, Longhorn Steakhouse; 10:00 Exploring with Josh, Harry Potter, Hell House LLC, USS Salem; 30:00 Paris Catacombs, Sabrina, Two Girls One Ghost, USS Salem; 40:00 Cataphiles, Ectoplasm, Harry Houdini, Nightscape; 50:00 Ectoplasm; 1:00:00 Cold reading, Nicholas, Ouija board, Philip Caputo; 1:10:00 Ghost Tube, Nicholas, ShopExplore.com; 1:20:00 Ouija board, Conjuring House, Skinwalker, Victorian child ghost; 1:40:00 Conjuring House, Estes Method, Two Girls One Ghost; 1:50:00 Hellfire Caves, Hellfire Club.

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