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Epstein Files Firestorm & U.S. Retaliation Strikes ISIS

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Epstein Files Firestorm & U.S. Retaliation Strikes ISIS", an episode of Morning Wire published December 22, 2025 (18 min, about 3,185 words). It mentions 13 people, works and ideas, including Donald Trump, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Syria, Megan Basham, Venezuela.

What this episode is about

The release of the DOJ's Epstein Files ignites significant controversy and political responses, including remarks from Bill Clinton regarding the extensive redactions in the documents, while the U.S. retaliates against ISIS in Syria following an attack that killed American personnel. Additionally, Turning Point USA's recent event concludes with high energy, emphasizing a rallying cry for national unity.

Key takeaways

  • The Epstein Files: a political hot potato making both sides sweat, even Bill Clinton raised an eyebrow.
  • Heavy redactions in the DOJ's release leave more questions than answers—it's the opposite of transparency.
  • Trump's connection to Epstein is minimal, yet the internet insists on turning him into tabloid fodder.
  • The DOJ confirms no new charges are coming; it’s the past revisited, not a fresh investigation.
  • In the world of Epstein, the real intrigue lies not in the clients but the unredacted secrets.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Balance of Nature's Whole Health System, Donald Trump, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Megan Basham
  2. – 6:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Ms. Maria Farmer, Scott Jennings
  3. – 9:00: Donald Trump, Megan Basham, Syria, Venezuela
  4. – 12:00: Venezuela, Donald Trump, Pete Hexath
  5. – 15:00: Donald Trump, Tim Rice, Mary Margaret Olahan

Notable quotes from "Epstein Files Firestorm & U.S. Retaliation Strikes ISIS"

  • Patriots last week and it was very successful. It was precision. The US launches retaliatory strikes in Syria after an ISIS attack and seizes another Venezuelan tanker.
    about Syria · at
  • Claims of heavy redaction and missing files. Joining us with the latest is Daily Wire culture reporter Megan Basham. Hey, Megan. So, a lot of people pouring over all of these…
    about Megan Basham · at
  • Yeah, those photos are definitely what's making the most news. And several undated images show Bill Clinton with Epstein. In one, he's shirtless in a hot tub with someone whose…
    about Bill and Hillary Clinton · at
  • America is built on hard work and powered by American energy. Chevron has spent $44 billion with local businesses across all 50 states since 2022, fueling infrastructure and.
    about American energy · at
  • Of the retaliation, War Secretary Pete Hexath tamped down fears that this could lead to a wider conflict. Hexath said on X, quote, This is not the beginning of a war. It is a declaration of vengeance.
    about Pete Hexath · at
  • It's part of the president's new blockade to stop the sanctioned vessels from going in and out of Venezuela and concealing their whereabouts in order to circumvent legal restrictions. The vessel known as Bella 1 was sanctioned.
    about Venezuela · at
  • Margaret Olahan. We asked them about the energy at the event. Here's what Tim told us. It has been an absolutely electric few days here in Phoenix. Of course, the headlines and…
    about Tim Rice · at
  • Conference, Erica actually endorsed Vance for a 2028 run. And finally, the biggest of all names, President Trump called in and he really revved up the crowd.
    about Donald Trump · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Donald Trump — Person · Core topic (referenced political figure) · 6 mentions · first at
    Discussed in connection with the DOJ Epstein files (limited mentions) and as the president ordering retaliatory strikes in Syria and escalating pressure on Venezuela; also called into Turning Point USA's AmericaFest.
  • Bill and Hillary Clinton — Person · Core topic (referenced political figure) · 4 mentions · first at
    Appears in released Epstein-related photos; his spokesperson response and the media framing ('Clinton Files') are discussed as part of the controversy.
  • Megan Basham — Person · Referenced reporter (segment guest) · 2 mentions · first at
    Provides the detailed rundown of what the DOJ released in the Epstein files and the controversy around redactions and missing materials.
  • Ms. Maria Farmer — Person · Referenced complainant (Epstein files) · 1 mention · first at
    Her 1996 complaint is cited as one of the notable new items in the DOJ release, alleging child pornography involving her underage sisters.
    Material was already public from prior lawsuits or congressional releases, but we do have some new items, like a 1996 complaint from artist Maria Farmer, and that alleges that…
  • Scott Jennings — Person · Referenced commentator · 1 mention · first at
    Quoted arguing the release should be framed as 'the Clinton Files,' influencing the political/media narrative around the documents.
    Plane with a young woman draped over him. Once again, her identity is redacted. So, all of this led CNN commentator Scott Jennings to say that he thinks these should really be called the Clinton Files.
  • Pete Hexath — Person · Referenced government official · 1 mention · first at
    Quoted downplaying fears of wider conflict after Syria strikes, framing the action as 'vengeance' rather than war.
  • Tim Rice — Person · Referenced event host (Daily Wire livestream) · 1 mention · first at
    Identified as DC bureau chief and lead host for Daily Wire's AmericaFest livestream; quoted describing the event atmosphere.
  • Mary Margaret Olahan — Person · Referenced event host (Daily Wire livestream) · 1 mention · first at
    Identified as one of the lead hosts of Daily Wire's AmericaFest livestream coverage.
    Stream event all four days. And our two lead hosts were DC bureau chief Tim Rice and White House correspondent Mary Margaret Olahan. We asked them about the energy at the…

Products & tech

  • Balance of Nature's Whole Health System — Product · Advertised product · 3 mentions · first at
    Promoted as a convenient whole-food supplement system; includes a discount offer and usage suggestions.
    And our sponsor, Balance of Nature's Whole Health System, makes it simple.

Concepts & topics

  • Epstein Files Transparency Act — Concept · Core topic (policy mechanism) · 1 mention · first at
    Presented as the legal trigger for DOJ releasing an initial batch of Epstein investigation materials.
    Us through what exactly has been released so far? Yeah, John. So, thanks to the Epstein Files Transparency Act that was passed just last month, the DOJ has now released an…

Places & events

  • Syria — Place · Core topic (foreign policy theater) · 2 mentions · first at
    Location of U.S. strikes against ISIS and the setting for discussion about normalization efforts with Syria's president and regional complications.
  • Venezuela — Place · Core topic (foreign policy focus) · 4 mentions · first at
    Discussed regarding U.S. seizure of a sanctioned tanker and a broader pressure campaign/blockade tied to alleged terrorism financing.

Sponsors

  • American energy — Concept · Sponsor message theme · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a patriotic framing in the Chevron ad segment emphasizing domestic production and economic impact.

Full transcript with timestamps

The DOJ's Epstein Files release sets off a firestorm on both sides of the aisle and even prompts a response from Bill Clinton.

I didn't notice that kind of reaction when they put out pictures of President Trump from the Epstein estate that were out of context.

Why were hundreds of pages blacked out? And what's next in the Epstein political battle?

I'm Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley with Georgia How. It's Monday, December 22nd. This is Morning Wire.

I ordered a massive strike on the terrorists that killed our three great patriots last week and it was very successful. It was precision.

The US launches retaliatory strikes in Syria after an ISIS attack and seizes another Venezuelan tanker.

And Turning Point USA's jam-packed and at times contentious Afest wraps up with a bang. Together, we can fulfill the promise of the greatest nation in the history of the earth. Merry Christmas, my friends. Let's keep fighting.

Thanks for waking up with Morning Wire. Stay tuned. We have the news you need to know.

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The Justice Department has begun publishing thousands of pages of material tied to its investigations into Jeffrey Epstein, but the roll out has sparked immediate controversy with claims of heavy redaction and missing files. Joining us with the latest is Daily Wire culture reporter Megan Basham. Hey, Megan. So, a lot of people pouring over all of these files that were just released. First, can you walk us through what exactly has been released so far? Yeah, John. So, thanks to the Epstein Files Transparency Act that was passed just last month, the DOJ has now released an initial batch of over 13,000 files. These include investigative materials, grand jury transcripts from cases that were adjudicated in the early 2000s. Also, police reports, flight logs, handwritten phone messages, and the headline makers, dozens of photographs. So much of this material was already public from prior lawsuits or congressional releases, but

we do have some new items, uh, like a 1996 complaint from artist Maria Farmer, and that alleges that Epstein possessed and distributed child pornography involving her underage sisters. And then there's also more detailed victim testimonies describing recruitment and abuse that was facilitated by Gileian Maxwell. All right. So, some new material, but no blockbuster client list then,

right? Unfortunately, not. Basically, I would say what these documents do is reinforce what we already knew. Epstein and Maxwell recruited underage girls for sexual massages that often escalated. They paid them hundreds of dollars, and they used threats to silence them. In one grand jury testimony we have from 2007 describes a recruiter bringing in 7 to 10 high school girls, including a 14-year-old girl. So, crucially, we do have to note that the DOJ has stated that these files contain no evidence warranting new investigations or charges.

Let's talk about the highprofile names involved. Both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have long been linked to Epstein socially. They both appear in these files. What's the context there?

Yeah, those photos are definitely what's making the most news. And several undated images show Bill Clinton with Epstein. In one, he's shirtless in a hot tub with someone whose face is blacked out, but is described by the DOJ as a victim. Another shows him swimming with Maxwell and others. One shows him on a plane with a young woman draped over him. Once again, her identity is redacted. So, all of this led CNN commentator Scott Jennings to say that he thinks these should really be called the Clinton Files.

Regarding Bill Clinton, I'm sorry to tell you the reason that Bill Clinton's picture is in the Epstein files is because this has always been a story about Bill Clinton and not Donald Trump. We should call it the Clinton Files, not the Epstein files.

But Clinton's spokesperson said that he cut ties with Epstein before these crimes were widely known. Now, for President Trump's part, despite a lot of viral claims that you may see circulating on social media, I would say that his mentions are fairly minimal. There's a handwritten phone message noting a missed call from him. There's also a book of his on Epstein's shelf and one photo that was initially released, but later removed from the DOJ site until they put it back uh saying that they determined that it didn't uh reveal any victim identities. It shows a desk with an open drawer with pictures including Trump with Epstein, Melania Trump, and Maxwell. And then there was also another photo of Trump surrounded by women. But, you know, we want to stress these were adult women in the photo. No documents accuse Trump or Clinton of sexual misconduct or knowledge of Epstein's crimes. And the

same does go for a lot of other celebrities that we see in these photos, people like Bill Gates, for example. But we should note there has been a lot of criticism of files disappearing from the website, hundreds of pages fully redacted. What's the explanation from the administration for that?

Yeah, you're hearing a lot of critics saying that the DOJ violated the law by not releasing everything at once. So over 680 pages are completely blacked out and at least 15 images, some that are related to Trump, vanished from the site overnight. Senate [clears throat] Democrats are accusing the DOJ of trying to protect Trump here, but Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch has strongly denied that. He said that these redactions are to protect the over,200 victim identities. The White House, meanwhile, is also pushing back hard.

They say this is unprecedented transparency, more than any other prior administration, and that these rolling releases are necessary due to the sheer volume of records and to protect victims. But that said, there are still hundreds of thousands of records under review and those are still going to be released on a rolling basis in the coming weeks. So, we could be learning more in the near future.

We'll certainly be keeping an eye on that. Megan, thank you so much for reporting.

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Meanwhile, the US has seized another Venezuelan tanker. Daily Wire reporter Tim Pierce is here to talk about the US strikes, plus the latest from Venezuela. So Tim, first off, what happened in Syria?

Right. Well, Trump promised that anybody who targets Americans would be hit harder than you have ever been hit before. Obviously, the president has a hyperbolic way of speaking, but then you look at what happened Friday and you understand what Trump warned about. These were significant strikes. The US military, with some help from Jordan, hit 70 plus ISIS targets across Syria. An early report from a Syria monitoring group said that at least five ISIS terrorists were killed. That number could climb, but even if that's all, the destruction of ISIS infrastructure was extensive. That includes munitions, supplies, hideouts. And as a reminder, this was because a gunman killed two US service members and one American civilian translator last week. So, was it proportional? Probably not. But the underlying message from the administration is that proportionality isn't the point. Rather, the point is

that anyone who wants to attack an American should be prepared to suffer drastic consequences. Despite the scope of the retaliation, War Secretary Pete Hexath tamped down fears that this could lead to a wider conflict. Hexath said on X, quote, "This is not the beginning of a war. It is a declaration of vengeance. The United States of America under President Trump's leadership will never hesitate and never relent to defend our people.

Now, Syria's president and President Trump had been attempting to normalize relations. He had just visited the president at the White House. What does this attack mean for that relationship?

Yeah, Trump made it a point on Truth Social on Friday that Syrian President Ahmed al-Shar is still okay with the White House. Trump said, quote, "The government of Syria, led by a man who is working very hard to bring greatness back to Syria, is fully in support." The Syrian government released its own statement on Saturday that reaffirmed the government's support for stamping out ISIS, and that it invites the United States to support these efforts in a manner that contributes to the protection of civilians and the restoration of security and stability in the region. But there are also a lot of complications in this region that are worth noting, such as Al-Shar's background is riddled with its own connections to terrorism. And it's the same case with his government. The man who killed the Americans and set off this retaliation from the United States was apparently a member of Syrian security forces. Though Syrian officials

have said that that man was under scrutiny and was probably soon to be fired because of his extremist views. H. Now, as we mentioned at the top, the US military continues to carry out operations against Venezuela, which itself has a connection to terrorism. What's the latest on that front?

Yeah, we've had another tanker seized, and this as the president continues to ramp up his pressure campaign. Here's Daily Wire reporter Jenny Ter with the latest on that.

It's part of the president's new blockade to stop the sanctioned vessels from going in and out of Venezuela and concealing their whereabouts in order to circumvent legal restrictions. The vessel known as Bella 1 was sanctioned by the US for allegedly moving cargo to line the pockets of US designated terrorist organizations Hezbollah and Iran's IRGC.

Now, that was after Trump spoke to NBC News last week and said that war with Venezuela isn't off the table. Now, this could just be another pressure tactic, but from the standpoint of Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro, he may be at least a little concerned that Trump might be serious about this.

No doubt. Tim, thanks for reporting. Good to be on. Turning Point USA's big annual conference, America Fest, had more eyes than ever this year as organizers set out to honor its founder, Charlie Kirk, and give the stage to the most influential voices in the conservative movement.

Joining us now to discuss is Daily Wire reporter Amanda Prea Jacamo. Morning, Amanda. So there were obviously some pretty explosive moments at this event and Daily Wire's Ben Shapiro certainly played his part there. But let's start big picture. Our team was on the ground there. What was the energy, the atmosphere like at the event? Well, first of all, this was a truly massive event. Surely the most well attended and streamed Amfest ever. And the energy matched that. As you noted, John, we had our DC team hosting a marathon live stream event all four days. And our two lead hosts were DC bureau chief Tim Rice and White House correspondent Mary Margaret Olahan. We asked them about the energy at the event. Here's what Tim told us. It has been an absolutely electric few days here in Phoenix. Of course, the headlines and the conversation on Twitter is all about the fiery speeches we've seen on the main

stage. But in the crowd at the conference, everyone was just having a blast, engaging in friendly conversation, really taking time to honor Charlie's legacy and get excited about the future of the conservative movement and the Republican party. Now, the final day was really hyped up by organizers and it it didn't disappoint. What did we see yesterday?

Yeah, yesterday was insane. It was very much turning point. It was very Charlie Kirk. Erica Kirk brought out rapper Nicki Minaj on stage. She's been speaking out about Christian persecution abroad and praising the Trump administration. Minaj earned big applause and her remarks really resonated with the crowd. Here she is.

We're going to stay joyful. Yep. and peaceful and iconic and smart and we're going to stay thinkers in a world that doesn't want us to think.

There was also a very well-received speech from Vice President JD Vance. He's loved at Turning Point. During the conference, Erica actually endorsed Vance for a 2028 run. And finally, the biggest of all names, President Trump called in and he really revved up the crowd.

I just want to say that nobody did more for me than Charlie. And there's nobody better than Erica. And you are the greatest people on earth. We won in a landslide and we're going to continue to do it.

Now, we mentioned some of the fireworks from the weekend. Charlie Kirk's vision for the event was in part to bring together conservatives across the spectrum, but he and TPS also stressed that conservatives need to be clear about what they believed. Those issues were major themes from the start. Tell us about that.

Right. The issue of where conservatives draw the line on things like platforming neo-Nazis or pushing conspiracies, including ones aimed at Turning Point, became a major theme of the event from day one when Ben Shapiro spoke. He specifically cited Candace Owens pushing conspiracy theories, suggesting people in Turning Point, even Erica Kirk, were somehow quote complicit in covering up the supposed truth about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. These false claims, Shapiro said, must be called out by conservatives. The people who refuse to condemn Candace's truly vicious attacks, and some of them are speaking here are guilty of cowardice.

Shapiro also outlined obligations that conservatives owe their audiences. We who speak to people on a regular basis, who have a microphone and an audience. We have duties to you. The duty to speak the truth. The duty to speak from principle, not personal feeling. The duty to take responsibility for our own actions. the duty to provide you with evidence to do more than conspiracize or just ask questions and the duty to posit solutions. And if we fail in those duties, you shouldn't listen to us.

Notably, Owens was not invited to the event. But Shapiro's reference to the people speaking at Afest did cause a stir to say the least. He specifically named Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and also slammed Steve Bannon. All three of them did go on to speak and unsurprisingly criticize Shapiro claiming he was calling for censorship and deplatforming. Though Kelly did say that she wants Owens to move on from Turning Point and Erica Kirk. Now while there was some drama, there was also a lot of unity at the event. And it seems right to give Erikica Kirk the last word on this here as she remarked on some of the contentious moments when she took the stage on Friday after Megan Kelly and Jack Pobic discussed Shapiro's speech. Well, say what you want about Amfest, but it's definitely not boring.

Feels like a Thanksgiving dinner where your family's hashing out the uh family business.

And she's certainly right, too, that this event was not boring. It had a little bit of everything.

Yeah, it did. Amanda, thanks for reporting. You're welcome. Before you go, we have some programming notes. As we start the Christmas holidays, we're going to be changing up a few things for the next week or two. We won't have evening wires, but we will continue to offer fresh content every morning, including our regular news show for the first half of this week, followed by some original interviews and special episodes during the holiday. And as always, if there is a massive breaking news story, we won't hesitate to drop a special episode. Thanks for waking up with us.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Epstein Files Firestorm & U.S. Retaliation Strikes ISIS"?

John Bickley (Host), Georgia How (Host), Megan Basham (Guest), Tim Pierce (Guest), Amanda Prea Jacamo (Guest).

What is "Epstein Files Firestorm & U.S. Retaliation Strikes ISIS" about?

The release of the DOJ's Epstein Files ignites significant controversy and political responses, including remarks from Bill Clinton regarding the extensive redactions in the documents, while the U.S. retaliates against ISIS in Syria following an attack that killed American personnel. Additionally, Turning Point USA's recent event concludes with high energy, emphasizing a rallying cry for…

What is mentioned in this Morning Wire episode?

13 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Donald Trump, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Syria, Megan Basham, Venezuela, Epstein Files Transparency Act. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Epstein Files Firestorm & U.S. Retaliation Strikes ISIS"?

The episode runs 18 min; the transcript is about 3,185 words in 47 timestamped sections.

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