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Seahawks WR Cooper Kupp on Superbowl LX, His Love of Coffee and Coffee Beef with Julian Edelman

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Seahawks WR Cooper Kupp on Superbowl LX, His Love of Coffee and Coffee Beef with Julian Edelman", an episode of New Heights published February 6, 2026 (32 min, about 7,142 words). It mentions 42 people, works and ideas, including Seattle Seahawks, Sam Darnold, Cooper Kupp, NFL, Super Bowl 51.

What this episode is about

Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Cooper Kupp reflects on his journey to Super Bowl LX, emphasizing the importance of teamwork and the belief in their capabilities. He also shares his passion for coffee and lighthearted rivalries, particularly his "coffee beef" with fellow NFL player Julian Edelman.

Key takeaways

  • In a world of fractional inches, even Cooper Cup's height slightly swells — a reminder that perception is key.
  • The essence of a team isn’t just talent; camaraderie and energy transform potential into postseason power.
  • Sam Darnold's journey is proof that redemption exists — it’s hard to shatter the quarterback narrative, but he’s doing it.
  • Seattle's success isn't a fairy tale; it’s a slow burn built on resilience and a shared belief in each other.
  • Every Super Bowl contender shares a secret: slice through distractions, focus on the grind, and everything else falls into place.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Camaraderie, Seattle Seahawks, Cooper Kupp, Sam Darnold
  2. – 10:00: Indicators, Cooper Kupp, NFL, Sam Darnold
  3. – 15:00: Mike McDonald, Sam Darnold, Los Angeles Rams, Sean McVay
  4. – 20:00: Indicators, AJ Barner, Seattle Seahawks, Lumen Field
  5. – 25:00: French Press, Coffee, Attention to Detail, Dodo Coffee
  6. – 30:00: Coffee, Bill Belichick, Industrial Coffee Grinder, Sean McVay
  7. – 31:56: Cooper Kupp, Mike McDonald, Bill Belichick, French Press

Notable quotes from "Seahawks WR Cooper Kupp on Superbowl LX, His Love of Coffee and Coffee Beef with Julian Edelman"

  • Here to represent the Seattle Seahawks.
    about Seattle Seahawks · at
  • Leaders. you got to tell you got to talk to us about a guy named Sam Darnold. How fun has it been [ __ ] seeing that guy grow into the to the Super Bowl quarterback that he is today?
    about Sam Darnold · at
  • I got to use my body to communicate to the quarterback. Right. I want to like he's going to see me 20 yards away and when I make a move or do something, I'm going to do something that's indicating.
    about Indicators · at
  • Was just going to ask like listen, you were in the Rams for a very long time with one head coach. What's it been like having a new head coach and Mike McDonald, right? Like is it been different being offense versus defense?
    about Mike McDonald · at
  • Depth of it, and I'm reminded that over and over again as I play this game. The depth of detail that there is in the NFL is it's it's an ocean. It just keeps going, man.
    about NFL · at
  • About themselves and what oh, it's my story, but like in my world, that was a crazy story for it to that was wild.
    about Super Bowl 51 · at
  • Most French presses, the plunger won't go all the way to the bottom, right? So, the plunger will leave like Have you made French press before?
    about French Press · at
  • Got you set up. Have you always been a coffee guy? You when did you start getting on the coffee? Coffee is really it's a performance enhancer in the league. Like you don't drink coffee.
    about Coffee · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Sam Darnold — Person · Referenced player (Seahawks QB in-episode narrative) · 5 mentions · first at
    Discussed as a comeback-story quarterback and contrasted with Matthew Stafford in preparation style and experience.
  • Cooper Kupp — Person · Alias / misspelling of main guest · 4 mentions · first at
    Same individual as Cooper Kupp; referenced repeatedly with alternate spelling in the transcript.
    WINNER, AND 2021 NFL OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. HE IS A SUPER BOWL CHAMPION AND SUPER BOWL 56 MVP, 92ENTERS, PLEASE WELCOME COOPER CUP.
  • Mike McDonald — Person · Referenced coach (current head coach in-episode) · 5 mentions · first at
    Represents Seattle’s identity and culture; contrasted with McVay and described as elite defensive mind.
  • Sean McVay — Person · Referenced coach (former head coach context) · 3 mentions · first at
    Used to compare coaching styles and to describe Super Bowl LIII chess match vs Belichick.
    We're getting into what we're doing because we were so much at the line of scrimmage that year. Sean really calling things all the way up until the ball snap essentially. yeah…
  • Bill Belichick — Person · Referenced coach (opponent strategist) · 3 mentions · first at
    Credited for a masterful Super Bowl defensive plan (6-1 front) and late-check manipulation vs McVay.
    Moment, standing on the sidelines and feeling the chaos on our sidelines when Bill Bich decided we're going 6-1 the entire game.
  • Mike McDonald — Person · Referenced coach (Seahawks head coach) · 2 mentions · first at
    Cited as setting the team’s tone and culture; contrasted with offensive-minded coaching Cooper previously experienced, and praised for defensive depth/detail.
    Talk. I'm Yeah, I can live at this place and like communicate. And you start talking to Mike and you're Oh, I don't know what I'm talking about. this is this defense.
  • Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (former QB teammate) · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a comparison point to Sam Darnold; described as exceptionally experienced with near-total recall of defensive looks and pressures.
    One's got red hair, one's got gray hair. days. IT'S It is great though being like Matthew's thing when he comes in, it's Oh, I've seen that like any look. Oh, I saw that, 2012 week four. Like they brought that same pressure.
  • Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced quarterback (former teammate) · 2 mentions · first at
    Used as comparison point to Darnold; cited as having discussed Kupp attending QB meetings.
    I'm pretty sure we had our guy Matt Stafford on here talking about how you're attending early QB meetings. You still in the QB room?
  • AJ Barner — Person · Referenced teammate (tight end) · 3 mentions · first at
    Praised for energy and two-way TE play; compared to Tyler Higbee.
    Knew him to an extent because he was playing in Seattle. But my first impression of him, I was Wow, this is like a young Tyler Higgby.
  • Jason Garrett — Person · Referenced former NFL player/coach · 2 mentions · first at
    Appears in anecdote: Garrett beat out Kupp’s father for a roster spot; also referenced as “Jason” in podcast script joke.
    Were in quotes saying it was cool that we had to go through the Rams. The script writers did a good job with that one. I'm glad you're you're a believer in the script writers as well.
  • DeVonta Smith — Person · Referenced comparison player · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a stylistic comp for JSN’s movement—described as a smooth route runner; referenced as someone the host has played with.
    Super smooth runner but you know Jax is built a little more like a by like a running back when you see him a little bit stocky. Got some girth to him.
  • Tyler Higbee — Person · Referenced former teammate comparison · 1 mention · first at
    Serves as the archetype for AJ Barner comparison; praised as a favorite teammate and “freak.”
    All-time favorite human beings, teammates. Higgy's the man. He's a freak. He's the man. I sit next to him in the huddle for eight years. Like one of my favorite dudes. And I'm…
  • Troy Aikman — Person · Referenced historical NFL player · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in story about Kupp’s father being a third-string QB behind Aikman in Detroit.
    So my Yeah. So my dad was a quarterback in the NFL for a couple years. he backed up he was third string Detroit to Troy Aikman and then Jason Garrett actually beat out my dad.

Companies & orgs

  • Seattle Seahawks — Company · Affiliation · 3 mentions · first at
    The team the guest is currently representing and discussing their journey with.
  • NFL — Company · Affiliation · 3 mentions · first at
    The league the guest and discussed teams are part of.
  • Los Angeles Rams — Company · Former affiliation · 2 mentions · first at
    The guest's former team, discussed in the context of transitioning to a new team.
    That's what I was you don't have the time. Exactly. Exactly. I get Well, I was just going to ask like listen, you were in the Rams for a very long time with one head coach.…
  • Eastern Washington University — Company · Affiliation · 1 mention · first at
    The university the guest attended, mentioned in his introduction.
    Our guest is a 6'2 WIDE RECEIVER FROM EASTERN WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY. HE IS A PRO BOWLER, ALLPRO, NFL TRIPLE CROWN WINNER, AND 2021 NFL OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. HE IS A SUPER BOWL CHAMPION.
  • Detroit Lions — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of the guest's father's career.
    So my Yeah. So my dad was a quarterback in the NFL for a couple years. he backed up he was third string Detroit to Troy Aikman and then Jason Garrett actually beat out my dad.
  • New York Jets — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of a player's career challenges.
    Prove yourself before you get counted out. And for Sam Darnold to do what he did going through this time with the Jets, with Carolina, all the scarring that happens, that's…
  • Carolina Panthers — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of a player's career challenges.
    Out. And for Sam Darnold to do what he did going through this time with the Jets, with Carolina, all the scarring that happens, that's man, everything that's put on you that's…
  • San Francisco 49ers — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of a player's career development.
    Saying you aren't this anymore, like you're not that guy. For him to push through all those things, to go to San Francisco to learn his stuff there, to be able to like take in…
  • Minnesota Vikings — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of a player's career development.
    This is done. How this quarterback how quarterbacks are asked to play this game to go and do it for KOC in Minnesota and then to come over here and just ball out like this. it's just incredible.
  • Dallas Cowboys — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of the guest's father's career.
    Troy Aikman and then Jason Garrett actually beat out my dad for the third spot with the Cowboys.

Products & tech

  • Coffee — Product · Recurring lifestyle topic / informal product discussion · 10 mentions · first at
    Used as a running bit and practical discussion (brewing methods, taste, performance enhancer); includes a soft “I’ll send you a setup” CTA.
  • French Press — Product · How-to brewing method discussed in detail · 6 mentions · first at
    Central to the coffee segment; Kupp explains ratios, grind size, and steep time while teasing sending a better setup.
  • Industrial Coffee Grinder — Product · Comedic prop / cautionary example · 2 mentions · first at
    Used to illustrate the host’s coffee novice status; strongly negative reaction and prompts Kupp’s offer to send a proper setup.
    Goodness gracious. If it's a gun safe, that thing's crazy, dude. That's hilarious. That's the biggest coffee grinder I've ever seen in my life.
  • Dodo Coffee — Product · Recommended coffee source/beans · 2 mentions · first at
    Named as where Kupp gets beans for French press; functions as a recommendation rather than a formal sponsor.
    Where are you getting your French press beans from? by French press beans. I'm I honestly don't I'm getting from Dodo is where I'm getting them from.

Concepts & topics

  • Indicators — Concept · Strategy · 5 mentions · first at
    Discussed in the context of football strategy and communication between players.
  • Camaraderie — Concept · Key argument · 3 mentions · first at
    Discussed as a vital component of team dynamics and success.
    Coming together, the belief in one another, the camaraderie of the just the people, the energy of the locker room is special.
  • Attention to Detail — Concept · Key argument · 3 mentions · first at
    Highlighted as a crucial aspect of performance and preparation in football.
    This Yeah, this dude is This dude is there. He was the one that broke out the directions as a kid for the Legos instead of just putting them together.
  • Process — Concept · Strategy · 3 mentions · first at
    Emphasized as the team's approach to success and preparation.
    BUT I DO THINK it comes down to us. It's hey, be us. Be the people that we've been all the way through this thing. It's been our process and it's been like it's kind of a joke now, I guess. But, Mike gets up there.
  • NFC — Concept · Referenced concept · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of the team's championship status.
    Congrats on the year so far, man. NFC champs. you know how to do this thing, though, man. Obviously, you have literally the best run in playoff history at the wide receiver…
  • First Principles Thinking — Concept · Referenced concept · 2 mentions
    Mentioned in passing, possibly in the context of strategy or problem-solving.
  • Zone 2 Training — Concept · Referenced concept · 2 mentions
    Mentioned in passing, possibly in the context of training methods.

Places & events

  • Super Bowl 51 — Event · Referenced event · 2 mentions · first at
    Specific Super Bowl event where the guest was MVP.
  • Lumen Field — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    The home stadium of the Seattle Seahawks, discussed in the context of games and fan experience.
    It's been pretty solid. I tell you what, it's been transformed.
  • Combine — Event · Referenced event · 1 mention · first at
    Discussed in the context of player evaluation and personal experiences.
    That combine will get you, man. They go down to the eighth of an inch. It's not fair.
  • OTAs — Event · Referenced event · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in the context of team preparation and building.
    Business. We're going to handle our stuff. And it was that it was that from day one from OTAAS on it's like man, we're just going to do what we do and get better and better.
  • Eastern Washington University — Place · Affiliation · 1 mention · first at
    The university the guest attended, mentioned in his introduction.
    Our guest is a 6'2 WIDE RECEIVER FROM EASTERN WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY. HE IS A PRO BOWLER, ALLPRO, NFL TRIPLE CROWN WINNER, AND 2021 NFL OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. HE IS A SUPER BOWL CHAMPION.
  • Santa Clara — Place · Referenced location · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of the upcoming Super Bowl location.
    Are you going to be in Santa Clara this week?
  • Northeast Ohio — Place · Referenced location · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of a player's background.
    Northeast Ohio ball player, baby.
  • Guatemala — Place · Referenced location · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of coffee beans origin.
    I know if we were down in Guatemala, you know. Yeah.

Full transcript with timestamps

here to represent the Seattle Seahawks. Our guest is a 6'2 WIDE RECEIVER FROM EASTERN WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY. HE IS A PRO BOWLER, ALLPRO, NFL TRIPLE CROWN WINNER, AND 2021 NFL OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. HE IS A SUPER BOWL CHAMPION AND SUPER BOWL 56 MVP, 92ENTERS, PLEASE WELCOME COOPER CUP.

That's awesome. The most proud I am is that you rounded up from 61 to 62. That was the best part of the whole thing right there. I'll take that.

Do it. I'm the same way. I'm 6'3. That's all the things. Yeah. Let's go. I'll take it.

That combine will get you, man. They go down to the eighth of an inch. It's not fair.

I was 6'5 my whole life. And at the combine, I'm 6'4 and 78. I'm like, you mother couldn't give me one more eighth of an inch.

You learn a lot at the combine, man. You learn a lot. Even about yourself. Even about yourself. Like, oh, I had no idea I was that short. That's crazy. I'm that slow. I thought I ran a 47. I didn't know I was running a

Hey, you're telling me. You're telling me. Yeah. Yeah. Wanted to jump it off, man. Congrats on the year so far, man. NFC champs. Uh you know how to do this thing, though, man. Obviously, you have literally the best run in playoff history at the wide receiver position, man. In terms of the stats and and touchdowns and and going out there and actually getting the [ __ ] dub in in the big game, man. How does it feel to get back to the Super Bowl? Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Um, I you just don't take these things for granted. I mean, we've all been lucky enough to be on parts of teams that get to the show and, you know, make it happen, getting the chance to to play in the big one. And, um, I've also been a part of, we've all been part of really good teams where like, man, the belief is that you're there like like you're like you're you're going through training camp. You're like, we're going to the Super Bowl. Like, we

know the work like we have everything it takes to get there. And and you don't and you fall short. And so, to it here. Uh it's a special thing.

How has it been with the new team? Obviously, you know, this is not a lot of people

seeing it from your perspective. Had high expectations. What's it what's the team camaraderie been like all year, you know, how has it been being in Seattle?

It's been I mean, obviously it was a new experience uh coming over here with the new team and uh all that, but I mean there was a there was a belief early on like you said the I mean it was exactly what Mike McDonald said up there on that stage. You know, we did not care. You know, it was like this whole thing like all the narratives, all this other stuff like no, we're just going about our business. We're going to handle our stuff. And it was it was that it was that from day one from OTAAS on it's like man, we're just going to do what we do and get better and better and better.

And it wasn't like this. This isn't one of those teams that I would have said day one like, "Oh yeah, we got all the pieces together to go make this thing happen." It was truly like a a build, a slow build of like, "Hey, this is coming together and jelling and the guys are coming together, the belief in one another, the camaraderie of the just the people, the energy of the locker room is is special."

You could feel the energy in the [ __ ] preeason coupe. I remember playing you guys in the preseason, dude. And I was like I was sitting there on the on the sideline that second half watching watching my guys try and battle your guys' like kind of like second and third string guys. And I'm sitting there I'm just like this team has the [ __ ] juice. Like these guys love playing the game of football and they do and they do it together. And it wasn't just the starters. It wasn't just the guys after that. It was all the way through the end of the game, man. And when you see guys loving to play the game together like that, man, having having that energy, having that excitement is the start of it. And then from there, you you obviously have great coaches, great leaders. Um, you got to tell you got to talk to us about about a guy named Sam Darnold. How fun has it been [ __ ] seeing that guy grow into the the to the

Super Bowl quarterback that he is today? Ginger C. Ginger C. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. He's been the man. Uh he I mean honestly quarterbacks in general they are on the highest pedestal of like you do not have a whole lot of time to prove yourself before you get counted out. And for Sam Darnold to do what he did going through this time with the Jets, with Carolina, all the scarring that happens, that's like, man, everything that's put on you that's saying you you aren't this anymore, like you're not that guy. For him to push through all those things, to go to San Francisco to learn his stuff there, to be able to like take in all this the Shanahan like, man, this is I I can do this system. I believe in this what how this is done. How this quarterback how quarterbacks are asked to play this game to go and do it for KOC in Minnesota and then to come over here and just ball out

like this. I mean, it's just incredible. It like it's not talked about enough how special and how difficult that is for quarterbacks to do. It's it is not an easy thing. And he's he's kind of, you know, he's gone against, you know, common belief about quarterbacks and how how it works, you know. So, it's it's just special.

I could not agree more, man. And like listen, I keep getting asked like who are you rooting for in the game and like I I don't really have a horse in the race. Like I like storylines on both sides, but it's hard to not want this to happen for Sam. It really is cuz I think anybody that's been in the league and struggled through it yourself and had to persevere through ups and downs, like it is very difficult, especially once that narrative throughout the league has already been set. It's hard to get that next opportunity.

Exactly. And for him to be able to do this multiple times, have to reaffirm himself, and to have the year he's had on a special team right now, like it's it's hard not to root for the Ginger Cuz man.

Ginger C. What's What's the better nickname, Ginger Cuz or Buddy? Oh, come on now.

Come on now. Maybe Maybe he feels a different way about it, but won't call Don't call me buddy. Don't call me buddy.

Don't call you buddy. I was, you know, I I got a little ginger in the beer. If they were calling me ginger cuz I'm like, I'll take ginger cuz don't call me buddy. You call me ginger cuz I'm checking out. Look, I'm at I'm at a gas station getting something. You call me Ginger cuz that's fine. I'm good. Don't Don't call me buddy.

Don't call me buddy. I'm pretty sure we had uh had our guy Matt Stafford on here talking about how you're attending early QB meetings. You still you still in the QB room?

I'm still in the QB room. They can't get me out of there, man. It's my room now. Took over.

I love it, man. Let me ask you this, and I think I already know the answer, but just for like people watching, why do you attend the QB meetings? What does a receiver get out of going to the QB meetings?

Yeah. Well, I mean, for me, it's a QB perspective. I want to hear I one I want to be in the I want to be watching the film with the quarterback when he's taking his notes, when he's kind of diagnosing, okay, the these are the things that I'm seeing. These are the things that even like give me concern, you know, that maybe the coach, it's not from the coach's, it's for from the quarterback's perspective. This is concerning to me

and maybe he's like has a thought about how it wants how he would want to attack or how he what his answers he want what answer he wants that to be. You know, I get to be in there. I get to be at the at the genesis of it all.

But then the other part of it is to be in the meetings themselves because now like in the receiver room, they're not going to touch on the the progression of a quarterback. You know what I Like they're not saying, "Hey, this is one high, two high this way." It's like, "No, we're running a bench route." You know what I mean? And so I want to know on the backside if I'm running a China route on the backside, well, how much time do I have? Am I first in the progression? Am I fourth in the progression? That really changes how I'm going to run my route and when I can be ready when the quarterback expects me to be ready for the ball. You know what I mean?

I love this. Did you ever play a little quarterback? So my dad was a quarterback.

So my Yeah. So my dad was a quarterback in the NFL for a couple years. Um he backed up he was third string Detroit to Troy Aikman and then Jason Garrett actually beat out my dad

uh for the third spot with with the Cowboys. Um so so my dad Yes. So I learned receiver

from my dad a quarterback you know. So like when I run a route I wasn't getting told what to do as a receiver. I was getting told no you can't do that cuz the quarterback's not going to like that. You know what I mean? So so he was he was on me early. He was on me early about like sticking my foot in the ground like no you have to like you have to indicate your indicator is not good enough

sign language man you know that's it that's it. So indicator what's we're talking in code to this [ __ ] fat boy. Yeah

I don't know [ __ ] about an indicator. What's this indicator? I got to use my body to communicate to the quarterback. Right. I want to like he's going to see me 20 yards away and when I make a move or do something, I'm going to do something that's indicating I'm breaking down and I'm going to be in the spot that you're expecting me to go, right? Cuz he's going to be letting the ball go when my back's to him. So, he needs to know like, man, hey, it's happening now. You know, I need to be putting the foot my foot in the ground when I'm breaking in or out and how I'm rolling. So, I can't just like you can't just ooze into like a a deep out route.

You got to like put your foot in the ground like I'm going now. You know what I mean? So he knows that it's moment.

Coope I think and that's so good. That was a great way to describing it. I think what you do that's different from others is that you're giving those indicators to the quarterback but you never give those indicators to the defense and that's so hard because the defense is watching those indicators and I do a whole lot of [ __ ] to make up for my speed. like I'm I'm doing skips and and things with my shoulders and things, you know, I'm doing all this [ __ ] just to get this much separation where you actually have the speed and you have the shoulder lean and you give none of those indicators as well as like when you want to really get open on a double move and things like that, but you're giving the defense no indicators that you're going to be going one way or the other. And that that keeps the timing of these routes so true. And it's why you always been mirrored up with your quarterback so well, man. Yeah, I

appreciate it. Yeah, try to do it. Try to do it as uh you know, I I'm like I ran a 46, right? So like I got to do the hop and skip and the I got to do the little jack now. I got to do a little bit of this. You know what I mean?

Oh, you got it all. You got it all in in the bag. But I'm I'm a lot of those deeper routes, you don't have all the you don't have all that ability to really get into that kind of stuff. So that's what I was you don't have the time. Exactly. Exactly. I get Well, I was just going to ask like listen, you were in the Rams for a very long time with one head coach. What's it been like having a new head coach and Mike McDonald, right? Like is it been different being offense versus defense? Like how's that been for you

offensively? If you don't have a great day, it's okay cuz the coach is going to be so pumped at how good a practice went. I mean, you know how it goes. It's like it's like, oh, hey, defense had a great day today. It doesn't matter what the offense did. Hey, bring it up, boys. This a great day. Where before it didn't matter like it didn't matter how what the energy was of practice if the offense wasn't on it, it was a terrible day. It getting crushed getting absolutely crushed. So, that's nice being on the other end of that that side of things. But honestly, those two guys like Sean and Mike both on two separate ends with terms of the offense and the defense, but they are they are doing it at the highest level of those two sides. And so it's cool. It's cool to see it. And I can sit in there with Mike and

I I used to sit in with Sean and be able to talk through stuff and be able to talk like, you know, the 500 600 level football stuff. And now I'd sit in there and and I used I could like, you know, talk. I'm like, "Yeah, I can I can live at this place and like communicate." And you start talking to Mike and you're like, "Oh, I don't know what I'm talking about." Like, this is this defense. Like, defense is a whole another world that, you know, maybe you don't you think that you understand what you're doing offensively when you're attacking stuff,

but there's a whole another world out there that you don't understand and the depth of it, you know, and I'm reminded that over and over again as I play this game. The depth of detail that there is in the NFL is it's it's an ocean. It just keeps going, man.

Yeah. And it's different the way it is in different systems. Like cover three is just like such a generic term for a way that everybody thinks about what that is, right? And how it's taught versus like different formations and clusters and what teams do specifically in their progressions and

how it changes week to week. No doubt. Yeah. You uh obviously played with Matthew Stav for a long time now with Sam Darnold. What are the differences between those two guys in particular?

You know, one's got red hair, one's got gray hair. days. I mean, IT'S It is great though being like Matthew's thing when he comes in, it's like, "Oh, I've seen that like any look. Oh, I saw that, you know, 2012 week four." Like they they brought that same pressure. It's like, "Okay, this is you're ridiculous, dude." Like,

yeah, that's crazy. Like, you can't you can't you can't compete with the experience that he has because it's not just the exper it's not just time. It's like it's memory. It's like he has all that stored in this database. He's like an he's like an AI center and it's like he's built into his brain and he just like he's just like pulling these things like dude no one I can't keep up with you. You're you're just rolling. And you know for Sam Sam is so processed. It's like man he's he's seen a lot. He's been in a lot of different situations. Um and he carries that stuff with him well. But a lot of it is his process and is preparing through the week. He's like, man, is just he's so on. Hey, I'm in here until 7 o'clock. At 7 o'clock, you know, I'm moving on to my next thing and I'm on it. He's just boom, like a robot on on his stuff.

So, you know, when he gets there, when he gets to the game on Sunday, it's like, man, he's just gone through this. He's so prepared for that moment to step out there and play or he's almost over. It's like you don't have to poop at every morning. You know what I mean? Like, like you can do.

He just wants to be ready for it, man. He wants to be ready. I love it, man. Well, it I'm sure it was uh it was pretty weird lining up against your former teammate or yeah, former teammates and former team. Um, but you were in quotes saying it was cool that we had to go through the Rams. The script writers did a good job with that one. I'm glad you're you're a believer in the script writers as well.

They were they were definitely writing the script for me and Jason to go to the Super Bowl when we started this new high podcast. So,

yeah, you remember the meetings. Yeah, exactly. That was crazy, wasn't it? I mean, I and like I said, I I've touched on this before, but there's there's so many guys in the like playing that game, you don't want no one wants to make it about themselves and what like, oh, it's my story, you know, but like in my world, that was a crazy story for it to that was wild.

Were you in uh those uh defensive meetings letting him know about all of McVeyy's tricks up his sleeve? And uh I've always wondered when a guy goes to the other team.

No, it it is it's hard. I mean, you can't like Yeah, I know a lot of the stuff that they do. I don't know if it's changed, you know, but I can like sit there and be like, "Okay, yeah, this looks like I know that signal. I know like what this maybe some of these like, you know, hurry up offense, what they're doing." But how do you as a coach, how do you tell the defense like, "Oh, hey, don't listen to what my call is. I need you to listen to what they're doing." And then, you know what I mean? They know you're and McVey knew you were over there and like that could be a possibility. So they're changing signals and all of a sudden, you know, you can get caught in a tough position. I just had to ask.

Exactly. Yeah. No, it just doesn't it just I just don't know that it really works. you know, it's little I think there's little there's little things, little pieces like, hey, this little indicator maybe of something that's like it's a broad thing like, hey, this might indicate,

you know, these kinds of plays are coming versus being like, oh, this is the exact play that's that's coming.

To put that in the back of somebody's mind with everything else that you got to deal with in the on the football field, I feel like it's almost like a crutch to be able to like have somebody thinking that much about

all of it. So, I'm I'm right there with you man. How has the Coupe chant been with the 12th man instead of uh the Rams fans this year? Is it Does it feel weird or is it What do you How do you feel about it?

It's been pretty solid. I tell you what, um it's been transformed. Lumen's crazy like playing in Lumen, it gets rowdy. And I've been on the other side of it. It's really similar though cuz it used to be like I used to run onto the field, you know, for part early on and you get the booze. Now I run on, I just see the C. Does it feel that difference?

I kind of been here. I've kind of been here before. That's great. You got another unbelievable wide receiver in the wide receiver room with you in Seattle right now. JSN is absolutely taking this league by storm. I think he's right now in terms of every single route he's running, pound-for-pound, one of the best [ __ ] wide receivers I've ever seen play this damn game. man, he's he's so fun to watch and he he has that ability to just do it with ease, similar to how similar to how you are. He doesn't give a lot of indicators on the deeper on the deeper routes and he's always on time and then his big play ability is through the [ __ ] roof. Um

yeah, did you coach him up at all? Did you give him experience? Uh like how was it when you got in the wide receiver room over there?

Yeah, it was good. Um, you know, I basically have built Jackson myself. I knew there I knew it.

No, he was so I mean he was so good when I got here like watching him go through OTAAS like dude this dude's special, you know, and and I don't think like you never know going into a season, you know, statistically what the production is going to be like. what are we going to be like as an offense, you know, that that dictates a lot of it as well? But he's just over and over again made the plays. Like when the opportunities come, we don't throw the ball like we're not super high up on the list in terms of how often we're throwing the ball, but when we do and when the opportunity comes his way, he's making the play. You know what I mean? And I think to do that, you got to be consistently getting open, like consistently open. You see, you don't know when that time's going to be when the ball is coming your way. And so, uh, he's just been special in that way. And uh like you said, no indicators

like he's so smooth. He plays at one level the entire time. You know, he can he can run a he can run a you know a a 15 yard outbreaking speed cut route and never change. It's like the same level the entire time and he just kind of Porsche turns

Porsche turns to the sideline and and comes plays negative coming out of his out of his brakes and um it's pretty Yeah, it's really special seeing him see him do his thing,

dude. It's so smooth like the effortlessness of it and like yeah it's it's fun to watch him just run.

He's similar to I mean you played with a with a Dvonte Smith. Devonte's I was about to say they're very similar in the way they move.

Super smooth runner but you know Jax is built a little more like a by like a running back when you see him

a little bit stocky. Got some girth to him. He got a little more Yeah, he got a little more girthiness to him.

He's he seems like a great dude, man. And I love the combo you guys had. But I got I got to ask you about my guy AJ Barner in the tight end room, man.

Northeast Ohio ball player, baby. Northeast Ohio ball player. He I got I got a chance to say what's up to him at at tight end, man. And I outside of like the onfield stuff and him really like being a big part of this offense in the in the run game and pass game, man. His energy, his swagger as a as as a young cat in the league, man. I [ __ ] love it, man. And I'm so happy for that dude. Well, you got to tell me. You got any good AJ stories?

I got some great AJ stories. I don't know that I got The problem is choosing one that he wouldn't be upset about me sharing.

There you go. There you go. Well, what was your first impression when your first impression coming in? I'm sure you knew him to an extent because he was playing in Seattle. But

my first impression of him, I was like, "Wow, this is like a young Tyler Higgby."

Dude, Higs is another guy, dude. [ __ ] love Higs, man. Hig is one of my all-time favorite human beings, teammates. Higgy's the man. He's a freak. He's the man. I sit next to him in the huddle for eight years. Like one of my favorite dudes. And I'm like, this is this dude runs, routes, he blocks, he does all the stuff, right? Is all the stuff as you get to know know him more. Like he's got a very unique energy about him and how I mean he's like he's the dude that's like he's the dude that's like barking in the team meetings, you know? He's got like he's got something to say every time. Something to say and you know 90% of the time it's awesome.

10% of the time you just kind of 10% of the time you just kind of let it kind of just you know go over your head. Okay. Yeah.

Oh, barnyard. That's a banger right there, man. I can't wait to see him in the Super Bowl, man. I know he's going to be turn.

We had Julian Edelman on uh already. All right. He had one question for you. All right.

Okay. Um he's having some problems with his French press. doesn't know the right ratio.

What What do we got for him? What do we got for him? He's He's hopeless. He's I TRIED IT. I TRIED.

I've already tried with him. I can't I've already tried him. I I walked him through it. The first time he showed me, he was making coffee. He's dang near I mean, he's dang near drinking his coffee with just grounds all I mean, he's just like he's chewing his coffee basically.

He's got that Turkish coffee that's got the grounds in it, right? Yeah. He's Exactly. He's he he's drinking his coffee with a spoon. Listen, he's got you you have to measure things. You can't just like throw it together, right? It's ratios. You got to have a feel. You got have a little bit of detail. And for Julian Edelman, For Julian Edelman, the most one of the most detailed receivers to just like throw things together. Oh, it broke my heart.

You wanted to see the attention to detail. He He turned that [ __ ] off, man. Yeah. Yeah. Slow yourself down, Julian. Slow yourself down. Make yourself a nice cup of Joe. Make it a nice little process. We'll be good.

Well, time out. Hold on. I want to get the inside scoop though for myself though. What is the ratio? What What is What is What is Coupe doing with this coffee?

Most French presses, the plunger won't go all the way to the bottom, right? So, the plunger will leave like Have you made French press before?

Yeah. Yes, I have. Okay. So, the French press won't plunge all the way to the bottom. So if you want to start see where that spot is and just fill the grounds up to right where that is right where that most of them most of them will be pretty that'll be pretty accurate. So you start there and then you go there and you fill up the whole fill up your whole thing and you can press it.

You know wait six wait 6 minutes or so make sure your grind's good. You want a nice coarse grind with French press. Don't want to be a super you don't want to be you know what I mean? If you get too too fine you're going to have the the it's going to over extract. You're going to have the you're going to have the grounds all coming up through that plunger. You don't want to do that. You don't want

Makes sense. Makes sense. Let's talk some more about this. What is is French press the best method of brewing?

Well, what beans do you have? Right. Cuz there's actual people don't know this. There's certain coffee beans that are made for espresso. There's certain ones for drip. There's certain beans with their oil contents and things that like

Where are you getting your French press beans from? by French press beans. I'm I I I honestly don't I'm getting from Dodo is where I'm getting them from.

There we go. You know it. I know if we were down in Guatemala, you know. Yeah. The Guatemala. Guatemala is a good one. I got We got some good ones from Guatemala. It would do a good French press.

I've done French press. I've tried getting a mocha master. I got a arrow press grinders. I've tried the beans. I don't I've not mastered the beans. I'm not jacking the beantock yet.

Are you going to be in Santa Clara this week? Oh yeah. We're up there, baby. Come by.

Perfect. Dude, can I show you the grinder I got? This will show you how this this will show you how novice I am. I'm going to show you the grinder I bought.

You're about to get this dude. You're going to see the attention to detail of a of a Pro Bowl center.

This Yeah, this this dude is This dude is there. He He was the one that broke out the directions as a kid for the Legos instead of just putting them together.

Yeah. I hope he's so He's been waiting to ask you this forever. Yeah, this is great. I hope he just brings a hammer. It's like I used to use this. I just I just hit the beans until they look good and then just dump them into this

coffee grinder. I wanted to be on record. I [ __ ] hate this GODDAMN INDUSTRIAL ASS [ __ ] coffee.

Kylie from the stairs. I need That's how you know it's about to be a [ __ ] hammer.

I'm ready to save the day. I need Listen, you guys. You guys send me Send me his address. I'm going to send him a whole setup. It'll be It'll be It's so

Oh, dude. We're gonna send you two addresses because I need this, too. Yeah, you you let me know. Send me the address. I'm gonna send you It's It's gonna do everything for you. It's You're going to have You're going to be able to measure out what you need. It's going to grind them how you're supposed to have them. It's going to do it all going to do it all right. Cuz this is People come over to our house all the time and like, "Oh, this is so good. This is great. Like so much better than I make at my house." It's like, "Yeah, cuz you're making it like a like a man.

But you take this out OF THE WALL. OH, WHAT THE Looks like What the [ __ ] is that?

That looks like a holy Dell computer, dude. What the [ __ ] I accidentally I bought a industrial coffee grinder on accident. I thought I was getting a home one and I got this for

That's crazy. THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING. Goodness gracious. If it's a gun safe, that thing's crazy,

dude. That's hilarious. That's the biggest coffee grinder I've ever seen in my life.

When when that thing showed up, Kylie was like, "What in the [ __ ] are you doing?"

The entire house just stinks in the morning. Coffee for the entire block. That's right.

I was telling Trav, let me You got You got Tell me where to send it. I'm going to send you a whole setup. It's a whole coffee setup. It's going to look nice. Your wife's going to love it. It's going to set on the counter like, "Oh, this is like this is good. This looks good.

Perfect. It's going to make your coffee. I got I got you set up." Have you always been a coffee guy? You when did you start getting on the coffee? Coffee is really it's a performance enhancer in the league. Like you don't drink coffee. You're you're you're doing yourself a disservice.

Yeah. You're not you're not trying if you're not drinking some coffee. You don't come in here if I don't see you walking around with a cup of coffee. I'm like I'm questioning your commitment to what we're doing.

EXACTLY. When did you start it up though? Secretly my mom would buy me coffee like early middle middle school. My dad hated it. Oh, my dad. My dad,

dude. He's been in the game for me. I've been in the game. I've been in the game for a while.

Are you a sweetener or you like the taste of the beans? You don't want to You don't want to mess with the beans.

Blacky black. Black. Just nice. I guess you got to get the taste. You got to get the taste

and go. What? What are you guys? Are you I mean, I'm black all the way. I was about to say I'm black. And for some reason, I don't I don't really like espresso as much as I like actual coffee coffee. I will do espresso. Like I'm I don't discriminate especially after like a nice dinner all in on the espresso

espresso martini. Hey now. But I there's something about like a a coffee that I just really enjoy.

Yeah. The taste. It's just a drip coffee. It's a nice drip coffee. Yes, dude. I'm right there with you. I'm I'm straight up. I like the coffee straight. And then I like uh I'll go back. We we have like five We have like six flavors from a Kansas City roasting uh company that I'll go and get I'll switch it up by the week. I'll go and get like a dark like roast and then I'll go back and get like a nice hazelnut and it'll be it like the taste of the beans will make it feel like I have like a sweetener in there or something, but it like kind of changes the notes.

The the beans themselves have flavor. Oh yeah, you know it. You know it, man. The different the way they roast. Oh, it's the [ __ ] best, man.

Very interesting. We got one last question for you. All right. Do you have a welcome to the Super Bowl moment?

You saying like, "Wow, I can't believe that I'm playing in the Super Bowl or like a the one where you get hit really hard and you're like, "Oh, this is a Super Bowl."

Either one you want to go with. Yeah. Ah, man. I don't you know, I mean, cuz my first Super Bowl, I was on the sidelines, you know, I was I had a torn ACL in 2018 against uh when Julian Edelman won Super Bowl MVP.

And um and so I think maybe my this is this would be my welcome to Super Bowl moment, standing on the sidelines and feeling the chaos on our sidelines when Bill Bich decided we're going 6-1 the entire game. Completely change the, you know, completely change your game plan. show something you've never done before and just show up in the Super Bowl saying this is what we're going to do and we're going to do it every single snap. That was like, oh, this is

this is the Super Bowl. Like, this is this is the guys that can make the guy that can sit there and make that decision. You know what I mean?

It's insane to even think about. Belich has been in the news a lot recently with everything. And regardless of any of that stuff, that was one of the most masterful well done coaching jobs to be honest with you. And it wasn't just 6-1. He would also

he was like waiting for the headset to turn off so that Shawn could check the play in. Right.

And then when it got checked, he would move it to something else. That game was wild to watch.

It was crazy. He was doing you you've seen like the miked up where he was like, "Hey, where is he? Where is he?" He's he's watching Shawn. It's like, "Hey, we're going to show one thing."

Mike clicks off at 15 seconds on the play clock and it's like boom. Okay, now we're getting into what we're doing because we were so much at the line of scrimmage that year. Sean really calling things all the way up until the ball snap essentially. Um yeah, you know that that was that was insane. But I mean for come out and we got

for his plan being I'm just going to watch Sean and we're going to wait until he calls it and I'm going to change it

and we're just going to do this thing like we're putting six guys up on the ball. We're going to knock out the mid zone run game.

Third down. Third down they still did the Bill Bich. You know they they had their Stefon Gilmore on Brand Cooks. They doubled Robert Woods. Like they still did the same thing that they they always do. But that was that was a baller move by uh by old uh old William Bichc.

William Bich. Slick Willie. I I lied. I got one more question. What do you think uh what does Seattle need to do to win this game, brother? What what are the keys to victory for you guys? You think

we've said this over and over again, and it's it's it's cliche, you know. Wait what what we say?

Don't turn the ball over. BUT I DO THINK it comes down to us. It's like, hey, be us. Be be the people that we've been all the way through this thing. It's been our process and it's been like it's kind of a joke now, I guess. But, you know, Mike gets up there and he for a team meeting and you want he wants to have some words for us and you want to be like, "Man, bring some like juice or something." It's like, "No, no, no. We're going to go out there and be us." Like, that's our thing. That is what we do. We go out there and we run through people's faces. We're going to run the ball. We're going to pass the ball. Our defense is going to run and hit. I just This is This is what we do and it's why we are in this position right now. And so, we're not going to change that. We're going to we're going to go out there and do the things that we've done to get us to this place. And that's all you can do. That's all you

can do anyways. So, we can talk about all we want, but they are WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE.

Coup man, you're the [ __ ] man. I can't wait to catch you out there and uh talk some French press, dog. But uh

wishing you the best, man. And go out there and get you another one, brother. Thank you guys. Appreciate it.

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Cooper Kupp (Guest), Travis Kelce (Host).

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Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Cooper Kupp reflects on his journey to Super Bowl LX, emphasizing the importance of teamwork and the belief in their capabilities. He also shares his passion for coffee and lighthearted rivalries, particularly his "coffee beef" with fellow NFL player Julian Edelman.

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