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Kylie & Demi Lovato on Wild Jonas Reunion, Favorite Collab Ever & “Swag Gap” Marriages | Ep. 50

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Kylie & Demi Lovato on Wild Jonas Reunion, Favorite Collab Ever & “Swag Gap” Marriages | Ep. 50", an episode of Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce published January 15, 2026 (1 h 4 min, about 10,703 words). It mentions 11 people, works and ideas, including Demi Lovado, Camp Rock, Turboax, CVS Health, Winter Olympics.

What this episode is about

In the season two premiere of "Not Going to Lie," host Kylie Kelsey introduces her life as a mother and her candid approach to discussing issues important to women. With guest Demi Lovato, they dive into topics such as the excitement of a Jonas Brothers reunion, their favorite collaborations, and the concept of "swag gap" marriages.

Key takeaways

  • Podcasting about parenting: where messy truths meet colorful language, and a dose of chaos is expected.
  • Kylie Kelsey channels parental rage and Olympic excitement—because nothing says 'balancing act' like wiping butts and covering the Games.
  • In a world of betrayals, even sweet dispositions can hide traitors; the reality show’s plot twists mirror real life’s surprises.
  • Swearing: the unofficial language of parenting, where every 'oops!' becomes a 'you won't believe what they did now!' moment.
  • Learning to curl in South Dakota: proof that even podcasters can face their fears one slide at a time.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Winter Olympics, CVS Health, Demi Lovado
  2. – 20:00: Turboax
  3. – 30:00: Demi Lovado, Turboax, CVS Health
  4. – 40:00: Angelos
  5. – 50:00: Camp Rock, Princess Protection Program, Demi Lovado
  6. – 1:00:00: Camp Rock, One Plate at a Time, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, X Factor
  7. – 1:03:40: CVS Health

Notable quotes from "Kylie & Demi Lovato on Wild Jonas Reunion, Favorite Collab Ever & “Swag Gap” Marriages | Ep. 50"

  • An experience on this podcast. Similarly to announcing that we have interviewed Demi Lovado for this episode and all of the other guest announcements that we had the absolute…
    about Demi Lovado · at
  • Through hand soap so quickly. I thought that was obvious, but I did explain it to her. Fortunately, the CVS Health app has me covered so I can mount our family's defense against germs, especially during cold and flu season.
    about CVS Health · at
  • Having someone in your corner, especially during tax season. You can match with a dedicated Turboax expert who actually has your back and can do your taxes for you from start…
    about Turboax · at
  • Angelos is where you need to go.
    about Angelos · at
  • First of all, when was the last time you watched Camp Rock? So, I watched Camp Rock like a couple years ago or maybe it was more recently. was it to pre.
    about Camp Rock · at
  • But like the most recent star struck that I got was I was in a room with Lisa Barlo from The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
    about The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City · at
  • Love that so much. Yeah. speaking of Starruck, you were a judge on the X Factor. I was.
    about X Factor · at
  • One plate at a time, recipes for finding freedom with food, which comes out March 17th. the first question and I have to ask it. I think you can probably guess.
    about One Plate at a Time · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

Books & papers

Companies & orgs

Concepts & topics

  • Winter Olympics — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
    I'm going to the Winter Olympics. And not only am I going, NGL is going. Yep.
  • VMA — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

Full transcript with timestamps

Not going to lie, SHE WAS A TRAITOR. SHE was a traitor. Let's get this podcast started. Welcome back, real ones, to season two of Not Going to Lie. AWAY FROM I purposely didn't full send it. I should have known. I should have [ __ ] known. Welcome back, real ones, to season two of Not Going to Lie, a wave original, brought to you by CVS Health. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. And if you're new to the show this season, here's pretty much everything you need to know about me. I have a bunch of kids, a whole horde of children, four girls to be exact. And no, we don't need to try for a boy. So, suck my ass. My husband played for the Eagles for 13 years, but please, dear God, do not call me a wag. And I'm officially in year two of this podcast where I talk about wiping kids butts, issues important to women, and I get to speak to people that I have absolutely no business speaking to. Now, you might be wondering what's

going to change in season two. [ __ ] nothing, including the way I speak, which of course brings me to the first point. Queen Emma is rage baiting me with a brand new swearing complaint here. Why do the Kelsey family swear so much? At least Trevor and Kylie do. First of all, who the [ __ ] Trevor? If you mean Travis, my brother-in-law, you're [ __ ] right. We do. Also, like, just keep scrolling. You literally don't Once you I really cannot emphasize this enough. Once you interact with the content, you're going to continue getting the content and then you're going to continue getting the intrever swearing our asses off. Coming up on our season 2 premiere since it's our first episode of 2026, I'm going to share my ins and outs for this year. And spoiler alert, Giving a [ __ ] is definitely out for a second year in a row.

Feels good. After that, I flew all the way out to LA to sit down with today's guest and I'd do it again, which is really saying something. She's a multiplatinum superstar with some of the best pop hits ever. Guys, it's Tammy Lovado. What? I know. I'm confused, too. But before we get to all that, let's start off with our NGL announcements. First up, the real real ones might have already seen the news. I'm going to the Winter Olympics. And not only am I going, NGL is going. Yep. Squad roll out. Appropriate usage. Okay. We're going to be taping two Olympic episodes right from Milan.

This is the first one comes out February 19th. Queen Emma wants to know if I'm excited for Milan. That exhale you heard just a few words ago was me. I regularly have an experience on this podcast. Similarly to announcing that we have interviewed Demi Lovado for this episode and all of the other guest announcements that we had the absolute pleasure of doing in season 1. When I say the sentences, my brain is like that was such a dumb sentence. That was silly. Um events I'm looking forward to the most. I'm very very excited to watch slope style uh snowboarding because I have personal investment now.

You'll see. Uh I am very excited to watch ice skating because I could never. And speaking of the Winter Olympics and the things that I've teased now, uh, we've been busy the past few weeks shooting two new episodes of FAFO with the help of YouTube, NBC, and some badass Olympians. I know, silly sentence. Okay, you'll be able to watch me learn to curl. Yep. We went all the way to South Dakota, Sou Falls, South Dakota, and we got to learn how to curl. It was incredible. That episode of FAFO is coming out on February 3rd on YouTube. And I just got back from taping the second one in Aspen. That's right. I returned to the scene of the crime. If you know, you know. I uh got to meet with Jamie Anderson, who was incredible. You'll be able to watch me eat [ __ ] countless times. We are literally going to have an eat [ __ ] counter, so like just stay tuned for fun. All right, that's it for our NGL

announcements. And now, in honor of my mother-in-law's debut on Traders, I'm going to attempt to recap it, which probably isn't going to go well because I don't watch reality television and I didn't quite get around to watching all of the episodes yet that have been released. But in an attempt to be doing this in a timely manner, I do know how it went. Uh, small disclaimer, I'm about to talk about traders and I am not going to edit myself. So, if you have not watched yet, which I suggest you do, uh, maybe skip ahead. So, what are my takeaways?

SHE WAS A TRAITOR. OH my god. Can I tell you there are so many things like if someone was like guess what happened? Not in a mill. I don't I don't know why that didn't even cross my mind that that was a possibility. I genuinely couldn't tell you. I don't know why that wasn't a possibility in my brain. Maybe it's because of like her naturally sweet disposition. And I was like, she wouldn't. As if it's a choice. That's not how that works. And Donna was a trainer. I'm not over this. And it's going to take me a while to get over it.

Um, I will say this. I have seen the clip many times now on my Doom scroll of Donna's exit, which is when they put you on the little circle on the floor and everyone has because everyone voted and said, "The most votes were for Donna. We think she's the traitor." and uh she stood on the little circle on the floor and then it's basically the person's opportunity to reveal right before they leave whether or not they were a faithful or a traitor.

Last meeting every single one of you and her little speech right there. On that note, I think I'm going to go, but

you nailed that, Donna. You nailed that so hard. And she does like the dramatic turn and walk off when everyone else is celebrating. You can see her in the back of the clip like turn and walk out of the doorway. Guys, she nailed that. I have not gotten a chance to talk to Donna about it yet um because I didn't watch the full episode. I want to I want to make sure that I can dive into a full celebration of Donna's accomplishments. And my understanding is that there's some things that I have not seen in the clips, like challenges that she was involved in that I would like to know before I text her about it.

I mean, is she going to receive a whole paragraph at minimum? But from what I've seen, she was a traitor and she [ __ ] nailed it. Next up, Doomscroll of the Week. Doomscroll of the Week is brought to you by Lollipop, a new kind of soda. First up on Doomcroll, my algorithm has informed me of a new Gen Z trend called the swag gap. And I feel personally victimized. Queen Emma with the clip, please. The swag gap is a very real thing to me. And it's something that I think about very frequently, like way more often than I probably should if I'm being honest. But like, how could I pull up somewhere in an outfit like this? Like low bun action, cute sunglasses, hoop earrings.

Are you seeing these shoes, cargo pants? Like, how could I be wearing something like this and then show up with a guy who's in flipflops and a vest?

Uh, it I can confirm it does exist. I am the one bringing the team uh the team down. It's me. It's not my husband. My husband, he's the one who's got the swag. When Jason and I first started dating, Jason would wear V-neck plain t-shirts. It was this same idea of if I like it, I'll just buy it in another color. That was Jason's MMO. He would just wear the exact same shirt in a different color. And let me tell you, it hugged the biceps. It hung off the shoulders nicely, and it also emphasized like how just it looked good. My husband, when we first started dating, disliked suits so badly. But now, because he has to sit the desk on Monday nights and he has to be a little more professional, he's wearing a suit on a very regular basis. And let me tell you something, don't ever ask yourself why we have four kids.

You know, that's self-explanatory. Turn on ESPN on Monday night. I said what I needed to say. Now, the swag gap for clothing is one thing. He clearly has like a cooler swag to the way he dresses. swag in general, like overall swag. We've seen him dance, guys. And I don't even need you to see me dance to know that's a low bar. And I will always knock him down a few pegs when it comes to him thinking he's a good dancer. I mean, I find it cute and endearing, but like we've seen it. Okay, next. Like I said earlier, I just got back from a work trip, so this Tik Tok really hit close to home. Queen Emma, the side of traveling for work, no one warned you about the pump and dump.

Oh, she's dumping. Oh my god, there's so many bottles of milk down the sink. Oh, and crying emojis. H this hurts my soul coming from someone who is admittedly a bare minimum supplier. That's what I call myself because that is the truth of my breastfeeding journey and it has been for all four children. Okay, this is not a self self-deprecating situation. This is legitimately just me being realistic with how my breastfeeding has panned out for all of my children. That being said, because we are weaning, Finn was when we were away on the work trip getting formula bottles, I then had to pump and dump.

Now, coming especially from a bare minimum supplier who on a regular basis has been truly deeply disappointed with what was contained within the pump once I took the pump off. To dump out 3 to 4 ounces aside was like a dagger to the heart. It was first of all I would have this moment of pride where I was like oh and then right down the hotel sink it went. It's not It's sad. I didn't want to get a clogged duct which everybody knows sucks. Um, I will say one of my biggest tips for clogged ducks, which I think is uh something that I discovered when I had one with Wyatt, if you have a a handheld shower head, you can turn it on the hardest setting possible and the hottest that you can handle it and massage. Yep.

I'm saying this out loud for the internet and I'm going to finish my thought now because it's not going to stop me. You massage it down your boob toward your nipple and then get out of the shower and pump right away or feed the baby right away, but it would probably work better to pump right away. You're welcome. Um Finn did finally cut fully cut a tooth. There is one one just one tooth. One tooth right at the bottom. And last night she had something in her mouth and I thought for a second that she was cutting a tooth on the top. And I got so sad cuz if you know, you know.

When there is a baby with only two teeths. Two teeths. I say teeths for a reason. Because if you look at them, it's they're not teeth. That would be ridiculous. They're teeths. Everybody knows that. right at the bottom. I genuinely, it is a phase I am not ready to miss out on on our fourth kid. But also stay away from my nipples. Anyway, the last thing on Doomscirl, we're in the midst of what the kids call the kids. Oh god. The kids call dry January or as I call it, January. Queen Emma, roll it. I think we earned a beer tonight. I know it's dry January and I know it's the eth, but I think we earned a beer tonight. We've been working out really good. We've been working really hard, really busy.

And yeah, he said the eth. He said, "I know it's the eth. I know we're only eight. I know we're one day over a weekend is what he said." Um, giving up on dry January. Uh, on the 8th of January, uh, I mean, you're a quarter of the way there. If Jason were to try it, it depends. It depends. In January, I feel like there are celebrations and people are traveling for playoffs. I feel like January is iffy. But if you picked a different month of the year, maybe like a March, solid chance. Oh, nope. St. Patty's Day. February has the Super Bowl.

Maybe April. I myself have absolutely no feelings about dry January because I don't drink. There are so many people who will comment on things or even slide into my DMs and be like, "I just want to have a wine night with you or I just want to have a beer with you." Um, I'm so sorry to disappoint you all, but I don't really drink. My go-to at a bar, a fully stocked bar specifically, is always going to be a Shirley Temple. But apparently apparently now I don't even have to leave my house for a Shirley Temple. Yep. I'm just as shocked as you are. Uh Lollipop just introduced their brand new flavor, Shirley Temple, guys. It's like we manifested it. Your inner trial will be grinning ear to ear.

It says, "Stay tuned and I'll try it." That's it for Doom Scroll of the Week brought to you by Lollipop. Now, let's move on to the second annual edition of my New Year's ins and outs brought to you by Init Turboax. Now, this is taxes. Now, I realize this is an older trend. I also realize it's January 15th and it's late as [ __ ] to be doing this, but guess what? I don't care. We're doing it anyway. Here are my top five ins and outs for 2026. Starting with my ins. Number one, we'll kick it off with something real controversial. Kittens and puppies.

That's right. I am definitely looking to add things to our home. Will it be a kitten? Will it be a puppy? If Jason has anything to do with it, it'll be neither. Number two, not leaving the house. Guys, just let's not let's collectively decide not to and that we won't have to meet each other out. You know what I'm saying? Number three, mom and dad no kids time. Okay, big deal. We got to try for more date nights or maybe a trip together. Who knows? But you know what? I do know. I know what came the last time mom and dad went on no kids trip. So, you know what else is in? Contraception.

Okay. Number four, bagel sandwiches. Technically, they've been in every year, but there are a few better ways to start your day than a bagel Sammy, let me tell you. Number five, flipping the bird. Very in for 2026, guys. It's the most direct way to just let people know. Okay, maybe even a double bird cuz the more the merrier. Okay, the best part about flipping the bird, it's right there. You don't you're not questioning where you stand with me right there. Okay. [ __ ] it. And I said that with my whole chest. Sometimes it's playful. Sometimes it's serious.

That's for you to decide. Bonus ends that just missed the cut. Bugs because you know I love bug hunts. ADHD because I can't help that. Turtles because Queen Emma made this list. Uh, and room temperature water. Big in. Big on room temperature water. Maybe it should have been an in. You get it. Outs. Number one, hard pants. This is the easiest one. I don't even think it needs an explanation. If I have to button them, should I be wearing them? That's a good question to ask yourself. Number two, crop tops. Cut it out.

Stop. Stop it. Every brand that is only offering crop tops now, kiss my ass and my belly button cuz you can see it. Hi, Patricia. Hello. How are you? Are you good? Are Oh, are you in for 2026? You're in. You're so in. Beards. Beards. Bearded ladies in for 2026. Patricia said that uh crop tops. Can you go but can you go lay down because I can see your nose. Thanks lady. Number three acting professional. This is an out because over here we are the most unprofessional professionals you will ever meet. Okay. I have said suck my ass on our sales calls more than once.

Number four, cooking with toddlers. I've had enough of this. I've had If the mess was worth the end result, the end result being that they actually eat the meal, I would do it every day of the week. But you do one make your own pizza night, get through the entire process, bake the pizzas, and then they look at you and tell you they're not eating it. You might flip the script, too. Number five, once again, for the second year in a row, giving a single [ __ ] It's out. It is out. And by giving a single [ __ ] being out, I mean giving a single [ __ ] about things you cannot control. Okay, let go.

Relinquish it. But also give a [ __ ] about the things that matter. Okay, bye. bonus outs that just missed the cut. Uh, Dallas cuz [ __ ] them. Sorry, Demi and Kelly. The word [ __ ] except when baby back is in front of it. Los Angeles. Ow, guys. What are we doing out there? That does it for my 2026 ins and outs brought to you by Into It Turboax. Coming up, we're going to LA to meet Demi Lovado. In the meantime, some messages from me. If you're a real one, you already know I'm a lifelong germaphobe and living in a house with four children, six and under, a large dog, and my husband. It forces me to confront that phobia on a daily basis.

I've seen some disgusting things in my household. I mean, I have one child who every single time she goes to the bathroom, I have to remind her to actually wipe. I said what I said. The other day, Wyatt asked me why we go through hand soap so so quickly. I thought that was obvious, but I did explain it to her. Fortunately, the CVS Health app has me covered so I can mount our family's defense against germs, especially during cold and flu season. Things I'm getting on the app are the standards, okay? You got the disinfectant wipes, you got hand sanitizer because you're going to use that in the car and so you can get to the sink and use hand soap, which I also get on the app. Why are you between me and the desk right now? What are you doing? You are 120 lbs. Get out. Thank you. I love you. I see you. I get it. I will let you out in a minute. You can also check your prescription status on the go and CVS will tell me the moment

my prescription is ready, which is important because you can't go into a store and waste time with kids. You got to be in and out efficient. Go to CVS.com/app to learn more and download the app today. I'm very excited to talk about our next partner, O Lollipop. They have a brand new flavor that happened to be one of my official ins of 2025, but really every year it's a Shirley Temple. I've been waiting for this moment to try it for the very first time on camera for the real ones. I'm not kidding. I legitimately have avoided tasting this until we could do it right now.

That's very good. This helps us accomplish one of our ins for 2026, which is not leaving the house. Now, you don't have to leave the house to get a good Shirley Temple. We have it at home and it's delicious. I've been a fan of Shirley Temples for pretty much my entire life. I still remember going to Alligators in Ardmore, if you know, you know. And they would we would get to have a Shirley Temple there, which was like a really special treat. Now that I'm an adult, one of the perks of being an adult is that you're allowed to have treats whenever you want. Their Shirley Temple is made with real ingredients, less sugar, and has prebiotic fiber to support gut health. You can try Lollipop's new Shirley Temple flavor right now. And get this, you can get a free can of Lollipop. Buy any two cans of Lollipop in store and they'll pay you back for one. Shop at Walmart, Target, Whole Foods, and thousands of other

retailers near you. Sign up at drinkollipop.com/ NGL. As a football family, we all know that real seasons around here. There's the regular season, postseason, preseason, and offseason. And of course, can't forget about the good old tax season. And as a former athlete myself and the spouse of a professional athlete, I think I can confidently say there's nothing more important than having someone in your corner, especially during tax season. You can match with a dedicated Turboax expert who actually has your back and can do your taxes for you from start to finish, either online or now in person. Whether you do your taxes in person or online, your Turboax expert takes taxes fully off your plate and will update you every step of the way so you don't have to worry. That way, you can actually get back to the things that matter to you, like eating personal chocolate cakes, listening to Demi Lovado's new album, or

watching my mother-in-law on Traders. Taxes don't keep business hours, and neither does Turboax. Turboax full service experts are available 24/7. Now, this is taxes. Visit www.turboax.com. Only available with Turboax full service experts. Real time updates only in iOS mobile app. She's a multiplatinum Grammy nominated sensation behind some of the best pop bangers of all time like Sorry Not Sorry, Cool for the Summer and Confident. She just put out a new album called It's Not That Deep. And you can see her on tour this spring. She's also an actor producer and now she's officially not going to lie. Demi Lovado, welcome to the show.

Thank you. I am so excited to talk to you. I mean, your music is every single time it comes on, it's an absolute bop, which is probably cringe of me to say because I think bop is probably out by now.

Cringe, who cares, right? Okay. It's a bop. Thank you. They are just so like they're just like a good time and like every time they come on I feel like I like know every word and I sing along and it's just it's delightful all of your music.

Thank you. Um, now before we get into anything, this show is called Not Going to Lie, so I actually have to call myself out for a second. I had uh Kelly Clarkson on the show,

and I told her that she was the only Cowboys fan I'd ever have on, but now that you're here, I think we need to amend that. Uh, just for the listeners, your mom was a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.

Yes. Mhm. So, I am going to I'm going to give a free pass here. Give me a free pass because I don't actually watch football.

So, what you're saying is you could be swayed. I could I'm I'm not saying I could be swayed. It's in my blood and it's like my family loves the Cowboys and so therefore I you know like grew up around the Cowboys and obviously like you know yeah understandable we're a Cowboys family but

I don't actually and I have never watched the games. I can live with this. Kelly came on here like pulling stats and I was like hey

no no that's not me. Perfect. Okay. And what I will say is is that I recently got I believe I don't know if it was a comment that tagged me or a DM where someone was trying to figure out whether or not them watching the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders show

yes was sacrilegious for an Eagles fan. And I was like I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. So maybe I feel like it's separate.

Maybe you could weigh in. Okay. my opinion, there's like there's so much history with the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders like and and my mom like invested so much of her time and energy into um that job and she that was like her pride and soul. And so like I feel like if you can appreciate the if you can appreciate the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders for being amazing at what they do, I feel like it

you can separate it. You can separate it. Yeah. Okay. There. There it is. You can separate it a little. And with that, I say go birds

because balance. Um it will not be me watching the Dallas Cowboys cheerleader show because it does still feel a little [ __ ] up to me. But I'm going to leave that one. I'm going to leave that one alone. Honestly, it is so impressive what they do.

It's so impressive. And my mom would tell me stories of like how difficult it was to like be on the field in 110°ree weather and not being able, this was back in the day of like not being able to like have frequent water breaks or crazy things like that where it's like it's different now. They put her through a lot, but it was all in the best way like

um just hard work. Hard work. You know, they were out there being athletes, too.

Yes. Exactly. Yeah. I can't do I can't do it. I'm not gonna do it. You guys can do it, though. Um because you got to respect the art. Like, it really is like the performance of it is impressive. And

that's not going to be me. Okay. Well, now that we have that figured out, I've been so excited to talk to you about your music because

huge fan, like I said, and we just got treated to even more music with your new dance pop album, It's Not That Deep.

Yes. Uh, what is your personal favorite song from the new album? Kiss like is just so fun to me that and it like embodies what the album is where it's like it's not I'm not taking myself too seriously. I'm having fun with it. It's sexy. It's flirty. Um, and so I think Kiss is probably like my favorite of the from the album, but I also love Frequency. I also love Ghost. Ghost was like an emotional moment. Let you go. But like I I'm It's hard to pick a favorite when

it's like picking your favorite child. It's like picking I mean I don't have children so I can't say but it is.

But you know it's it's wrong for people to pick their favorite child. That's what I've been told.

Right. I have four daughters. I've been told it's wrong to pick your favorite child.

Nobody has favorites, guys. Depends on the day. Uh now I Sorry to myself is so I

and I and that one too. That one's great, too. I love that one. I love that one. And I also love

the way that you've done it on TikTok because it just feels like so like it's every single time it pops up I'm like I'll go listen to it real quick.

Oh, thanks. Because it you you you have to scratch the itch. Is it true that you started writing this as a rock album and then switched it up?

Yes. So when I first started working on this project, I was coming out of my last album. Um Holy [ __ ] Can you say that or should I just say holy? Okay. Um, oh, we say a lot about you. Say whatever the [ __ ] you want.

Okay. So, I was coming off of my last album, Holy [ __ ] And, um, that was like I was in my rock era, and I was like, "All right, let's go." And I was like, "Let's go even harder. Like, let's go even more rock with it." And, um, as I started working on it, I was like in this relationship very, very happy. And like I found it really difficult to write happy rock songs. Like normally they're, you know, they're just like really emotionally driven and and here I am in this place in my life where I'm just like having fun and it's very light-hearted and um and then so I decided I was like, "Okay, maybe I should switch the vibe." So, I started trying on a few different genres and um different sounds and ultimately like what matched my emotions this album was the pop and dance sound that was kind of that was just cohesive with what I was what's going on in my personal life. And like I'm having fun. I'm, you know,

newly married. Life is awesome. and I don't really have anything to be angry about right now. Um, and so I'm not writing, you know, music that's very angry.

Sure. And, um, it's just interesting how you think an album is going to start when you think of an album and how it starts to where it actually ends up is really fascinating and something that I love about making music.

And now you're taking this new album and all of your music on tour this spring. Uh, you can get your tickets now at demi lavado.comtour. How do you feel about um one of your earliest stops on the tour, which is Philly?

How do I feel about it? Yeah. I'm excited. Are you? I have great memories in Philly.

Oh, good. Yeah. I like I did I ran the stairs like Rocky. Yes. Like I've done that. I just I also just have played Philly a million times and um or what feels like a million times and um and I have like good memories there, but like I have this one Yeah. I have this one memory of me running um on a tour stop and like I ran through the streets of Philly and it was cool.

Did you? Yeah, because Philly is a great place to go and everybody knows that. You know what I'm dying to have is like a really good Philly cheese steak.

Perfect. Okay. So, tell me where to go. Angelos is where you need to go. Okay. Angelo's is like the current. If you look it up, everyone's saying that Angelos is the front runner.

Okay. It's very, very good. And uh I feel very strongly about this that you might like Angelos's.

Okay. I'm going to try it. Please do. I'm going to try when I go on tour when I when I'm there. Yeah.

Okay. You tell me. I'll meet you there. Okay. Do you want to come to the show in Philly? try to stop me. Yes, absolutely. Oh, a thousand%.

Oh, good. What can we expect to see on this tour? Definitely a big show. Um, and songs from my newest album, It's Not That Deep, but also songs from my catalog that are older. Um, it's just it's about having fun. I want to have fun. And we're at the fun process, right? Like we're or the fun part of the process where it's like we have a blank slate in front of us and you know I have yet to see what the stage is going to look like. I have yet to see what my outfits are going to look like and um and like the collaboration process in all of that, you know, working with my incredible stylist and um creative director and like so I have yet to like I don't have any inside scoop, but what I can tell you is that I'm bringing Adella on the road with me and she is just so talented. So, like she's I heard this quote that was like she's your favorite pop star's favorite pop star and it's so true. Um she's just so cool.

I'm so excited. Well, speaking of performing, I was just watching you absolutely crush it on New Year's Rock and Eve.

Thank you. Um out of all of your songs, do you have a favorite one that you like to perform live?

I love doing Cool for the Summer. It's like challenging enough vocally to where it's fun, but it's not challenging to a point where it's stressful. So, like there's no like crazy super high note like in Sorry, Not Sorry, where I'm like, "Oh god, am I going to hit it this time?"

Um, it's kind of like hard enough to where it's fun to sing, but it's not stressful. And so, I love Cool for the Summer. And then I also just have like so many good memories to that song. And so, it's just so fun.

Now, we mentioned Kelly Clarkson earlier. I actually asked her Kelly. Oh, don't worry. We're going to get there because I heard that your email address

was little Kelly atyahoo.com. Is that true? Yeah. Well, the the the little was spelled with D's because little Kelly was already taken.

Sure. Um, so it was little Kelly, but I was so obsessed with Kelly Clarkson when I was a kid that I um made my email address Little Kelly. Yeah,

I love that so much. Uh, does Kelly know that that happens? She does. Yeah. And how does she feel about that? Because I feel like that's

I think she's flattered, right? Yeah. I I was on her show and I told her when I did her show and then I recently saw her for um Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Um, and I told her again and she was like, "I know you told me." And I was like, "Okay, I'm just making sure you know cuz I'm obsessed with you." And

now one of the things that I asked Kelly, which brings me to you saying like the challenging vocal songs that you have, I am not musically inclined whatsoever. And I just want to know how it feels deep in your soul when you hit the note that you like a really challenging song when you hit it

and you [ __ ] nail it. It feels so Is that the most satisfy? I feel it. My brain has told me

that must be one of the most satisfying things that you can experience. Yeah, it really is. It really really is. It's um it's visceral, you know, like you're I'm when I sing and I hit the high notes, it's not just because I can get up there and I want to show off what I can do with my voice. It's like the passion and the intensity behind what I'm saying means so much to me and it it like it's so powerful that it just it truly is visceral when I when I'm able to like hit a note that in the studio or on stage or whatever like or sometimes in the shower like I just it's such a good feeling. It's right up there with sex and chocolate and Taco Bell. That is exactly that is exactly what my brain told me.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you give yourself goosebumps? Uh, no. I don't think so. I think like

have other people giving you like when you listen to other people, have they get like a Kelly Clarkson when Kelly hits a note like

Definitely. I think for me, I'm so critical of my performances and um and even like my recordings, I would say that like I'm so critical, it's hard for me to take myself out of that perfectionism to enjoy what I'm doing vocally. Um

don't worry, we're all getting goosebumps for you. Thank you. Now, you've sang some with some absolutely amazing artists throughout your career. Christina, Ariana, Sam Smith to name a few. Do any of your duets or collaborations stand out to you? I would say my favorite collaboration that I've ever done would would have to be um Fall in Line with Christina Aguilera because Christina is like Kelly Clarkson to me and she was one of my biggest inspirations growing up and every time I karaoke I sing her songs and you have a favorite.

What's the go-to? Um there's one called Keep on Singing My Song. Um, and thought for sure you were going to say Jean in a bottle.

No, no, this one's like got this long note at the end and it's it's really fun to sing. I never get to sing it unless I'm doing karaoke or if I'm in the shower. But I just like I really value um that collaboration because it just means so much to me. That's so much power in the collab. It's not even funny. Um, well, speaking of collaborations, I feel like I can't fully transition into 2026 until I talk to you about one of my favorite moments from 2025, which is when you made a surprise appearance at the Jonas Brothers concert.

Oh, yeah. Holy [ __ ] nostalgia. We actually have the clip. I'm going to let it show. It's time to let you know.

Now, how excited were you to do this? It I was so excited. Did you know that it would take over the internet the way it did? Because I

I had a feeling. I don't know. I always get I always get worried because my algorithm is based on what I watch, right? My generation. I kid you not, it was every single It was like six deep before I got anything else and then it went right back to it because my algorithm knew what I wanted to see.

Oh my god, you're so sweet. What was the best part of it? Was it like the eruption of the cheer? Was it?

Yeah, definitely. God, was it so good. It was so loud. It was so fun. And like everyone was just like everyone was going crazy and um and I I think we all shared that same um enthusiasm for the performance because for the Jonas Weathers and I, it was getting back on stage for the first time together in however many years. It was really nostalgic for us as well. And so, um, you know, hearing the crowd erupt with enthusiasm the way that we were excited to perform it just felt right and was really rewarding.

That's so cool. And the real ones know, uh, when it comes to Tik Tok, I always say you got to run to the comment section. Um, so I got to shout out the top comment with 639,000 likes. all we're missing and it is it is the Disney knees. Yes.

Or the Disneys, if you will. The Disneys. Um, for anyone who is unfamiliar with this phenomenon, can you explain to them the Disney knees?

The Disneys. I can't explain it. I just have to do it. Um, no. It's like when you're standing up and you're so excited to be on stage that your knees collapse into each other. And that's all I can that's the only way I can describe it. Yeah,

that's so good. My knees glitch. Now, circling back to that concert, the eruption of of cheer and everything, but I was also talking about to Ed Sheeran about the idea of which artist would be considered a cheat code for the loudest crowd in their hometowns.

Is there anyone that you can think about? I said we Ed and I agreed bringing Eminem out in Detroit would be like,

"Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Cheat code. Cheat code." Who who would you think when I think of like the loudest crowds? I think of like I think of Taylor. Like she'll she'd probably have the loudest crowd on.

That one's easy. You put Taylor in Philly. We're going to be loud. Is there anyone in Dallas that you think besides you

besides me? Uh maybe Beyonce in Houston. Oh, Beyonce in Houston. D. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I'm trying to think of I feel like the the artists who sort of rep their hometown really hard are the ones who would get like the biggest

Yes, of course. I just thought of an artist. Please. Bad Bunny and Puerto Rico.

That would be the loudest crowd. That would pop off in a way that I cannot ex I want to see that.

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needs this time of year. Macy's makes it easy to treat yourself to fashion that helps you show up as your best. Head to macy's.com or shop in store today. I mentioned this earlier, but I absolutely was a Disney Channel kid growing up and uh I've seen Cam Brock a couple times. Uh I also love The Princess Protection Program. I think that that was very underrated and um my girls have watched it once and they're very young, but they just loved the suggestion of like

we could be princesses. Yes, sure. Uh first of all, when was the last time you watched Camp Rock? So, I watched Camp Rock like a couple years ago or maybe it was more recently. Um,

was it to pre Jordan, my husband, uh, Camp Rock? He had he didn't he wasn't a Disney kid growing up, so he didn't see any of that.

So, you had to educate him. I had to educate him. Got it. We still have yet to watch Camp Rock 2,

and I haven't showed him Princess Protection Program. So, sounds like you've got movie night lined up for for a little while.

Exactly. Um, now what does he think? What did he think of Camp Rock? Um, he thought it was cute, you know. He's like, I like this is where you got your start. That's amazing.

I will say every single time someone references Camp Rock, immediately in my head, it starts going, "This is real." Like, I can't stop it now. It's going in my head, and I will have that for the next three days. and Camp Rock 3. I'm an executive producer on it.

Yes, you are. Yes. Does that mean Does that mean I don't know. We'll have to wait and see.

Blink twice if you'll tell me in later. Um, so like you said, you're an executive producer. It comes out this summer.

Yes. What can you tell us? We are making way for the new generation to shine their light as bright as they are. And it's just really exciting to see a new generation step into the footsteps of of us. and um and just like yeah, it's beautiful to watch a generation of new actors and performers have their moment and I can't wait to see the final product.

This will be the perfect time to do a movie night with your husband. Yes. For Camp Rock 2 to pregame Camp Rock 3.

Yes. Perfect. Yes. Um there's uh speaking of Camp Rock and all the success you had in your Disney Channel days, did you ever uh reach out to other Disney actresses for advice um or to just talk about that experience?

Like are you saying like actresses that were on Disney before me? Yes. No, I didn't. And I think I was like really intimidated and kind of like shy when it came to asking for advice. Um, like I never had a mentor either. Like I didn't I don't know. I just felt like I think I was maybe just shy. Um, I wish that I had I wish that I had gotten advice and um I think it would have saved me a lot of trial and errors like figuring [ __ ] out on my own kind of thing. Um, but I like I'm grateful for the path that I've had without a mentor, without advice from others. So,

do you not having that mentor role yourself, do you feel like inclined to offer that to others that are coming? love to be a mentor to somebody um and like guide someone through the journey that I went on because when you do it alone there's no manual on how to be a pop star and um and there's certain things that I would tell I actually did give like a a little mini pep talk to the new cast of Camp Rock when I first met them. I met them as a group and I was just like, "Hey guys," you know, um, and I I gave them some advice. I'm trying to think what advice I gave them. Um, it was like, you know, don't be afraid to uh ask for time off, like take care of yourself first. Um it's really important that you take care of your mental health and so that you can do the other things that you want to do like performing and acting and um but if you don't have your mental health or if you get burnt out

like that can all go away and so it's just like it's important to take care of yourself.

That's such an important message. Um you of course got to meet so many incredible people in your career. Um, and I'm sure it just continues to happen. But do you ever feel like you met someone along the way that made you truly starruck?

Yes, I giggle besides Christina and Kelly. Yes, I giggle because I get starruck by like the most un assuming people, I guess. Like I could be in a room I I've been starruck by huge artists, but like the most recent star struck that I got was I was in a room with Lisa Barlo from The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

Y and um I literally we were at a holiday party and I saw her in the room and I just like walked out of the room and my my husband was like, "You glitched, didn't you? You you had to walk out of the room." such a clear and defined answer of fight or flight.

It was fight or flight. I was like I saw her and I was like I'm just going to keep walking and

you Irish goodbye the [ __ ] out of that room just because you were like my brain can't handle this.

No, but the thing was is I went right back in the room. Yeah, cuz I needed the food there. It was like the room the room was had a buffet in it. I was there for dinner and I was like I have to eat the food and I also wanted to like say hi. I just like in the hi glitched. She actually said hi to me, which was really cool. Um, and no, she

I feel like that's amazing that if you get that like excited to see someone and then they're like, "Oh, hi." And you're like, "Oh my god, they wanted to say hi to me, too."

Yes. Um, so that was funny. And um, and it was a sweet little moment. She was nice. And um, and I was totally starruck.

Love that so much. Yeah. Um, speaking of Starruck, you were a judge on the X Factor. I was.

Uh, along with Britney Spears. Yes. What was that like? And would you ever want to return to singing competitions?

I would only return if Britney was a judge next to me. Easy. Yeah. Um, it was so much fun. Um, it was a lot of work, I will say. And I invested like so much of my energy into my contestants that were a part of my team that like I would get devastated when they would get sent home. Like I really was like like I

all in. I was all in. And so, um, I think the emotional toll it takes on you is kind of like a lot cuz you just invest so much of your time and energy into these people's careers and it's the beginning of their careers and so when they don't go on to the next round, you're kind of like, "Oh my god, did was that my fault? Like, did I pick the wrong song for them or whatever it is?" And so you just invest so much into the contestants and um and so yeah, I just like I think yeah, I would only do it if Britain was next to me again.

I don't We'll We'll try and manifest it. Yeah, we'll manifest it. Sure, why not? Um you've performed on so many big stages, Grammys, VMA, Super Bowl, national anthem. Do you have a favorite? I would say my like looking back my favorite memory, my favorite stage that I've performed on would have to be the Super Bowl um the national anthem because it was just like there's something about the Super Bowl. Everyone's watching it and I was so nervous. I blacked out when I started singing. Like I don't

I finished and I was like was that good? I don't know. Was that good? That's so impressive.

I was so um nervous that I just like That's insane that that version of a national anthem was autopilot. That's crazy.

Um would you ever do it again? Yeah, I would do it again. Okay. NFL. Let's go. Um maybe we could manifest halftime.

I would love to manifest that. Okay, let's do halftime. I got a ways to go before halftime, but that would be sick.

I think I think we could plant the seed. At the very least, we'll plant the seed. Uh, now something else we have in common is that we both like to cook.

So, I'm very excited about your brand new book. Oh, you like to cook? I do. Nice.

Um, one plate at a time, recipes for finding freedom with food, which comes out March 17th. Uh, the first question and I have to ask it. I think you can probably guess. Demi, what is your favorite dish?

I didn't see that one coming. No. No, I didn't. I mean, almost swore you would.

Okay. My newest favorite dish is this pickle mug. It's like a mug that looks like a pickle.

I love pickles and I love mugs. Oh, perfect. And my cousin Braden got me that for Christmas this year was like a pickle mug and it's my new favorite dish.

I'm going to You're I'm going to take this in a direction that Queen Emma was not prepared for. Do you have a favorite pickle?

I actually do. It's um Velix's dill pickles. Just original dill. The spear. Not the spear. The whole pickle.

Okay. I know. Okay. But they're like they're like this big. They're not like the movie theater pickles.

I'm sorry. What? Okay. Movie theater pickles. That's a Texas thing. That's a Texas thing. So when

is this going to be the first thing from Texas I've ever liked? Maybe. Well, that's a lie cuz you're from Texas.

Oh, thank you. And Kelly Clarkson is from Texas. I know. Okay. First concept from Texas that I've ever liked. Okay. Go ahead. When I came to LA the first time I was out here um and I went to the movies at the Grove I was like can I have a pickle? And they were like what? And I was like yeah I'll have a pickle with my popcorn. And they were like where where are you from? Like we don't do that here. And I was like and that's when I realized I was like oh it must be a southern thing or like a Texas thing. Um

they give you a whole ass deli pickle pickle in like this big jug. The jug is like this big. It's like just tons of

This is like a barrel pickle from the deli. Yes. And you're [ __ ] kidding me. And you you eat it while you watch your movie. And it's the best snack. It's It lasts you the whole movie.

[ __ ] off. This is not a revelation I was prepared to have today. Yeah. What? I'm serious.

With your popcorn. Dead serious. That sounds delicious. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You take a piece of the popcorn and you dip it on the pickle.

It's really good. Oh, I know what I'm doing when I get home. Yeah. Wow. That was not I wasn't I wasn't ready for that. This is You might have You've just disrupted my whole thought process.

Okay, I'm going to get back on it. I'm going to get back. We're back. I'm gonna I'm gonna calm it down. A [ __ ] movie theater to pickle.

Yeah. Wow. Now, I'm going to ask for real now, not about your pickle mug, which sounds lovely.

From your new cookbook. Yes. What is your favorite dish? It would be like picking a favorite child. I can't pick just one recipe. Um,

do you have a favorite right now? I really won't hold you to it. My chili. Oh, it's the perfect.

But like sometimes I really get into like a beef stew phase where like I make that a lot. I made the mac and cheese.

Perfect for We're coming up on Super Bowl. Yes. And you know what I want to have?

Perfect game day. Do you want to know what I'm going to do for Super Bowl? Maybe. But also I'm going to have my own Super Bowl where I'm going to have my friends come over. We each pick a soup to make

and a soup bowl. And so everyone picks everyone picks a soup that they have to make and they bring it to

stop the Super Bowl and whoever makes the best soup wins. Wins. Yeah. I love this. Is there a prize?

Uh maybe. I have to think of one. We'll check that. Maybe it's the pickle mug. I'll have to con my cousin Braden.

You'll have to find another one. You cannot you cannot for sure give away the pickle.

I know. I know. Now, what made you want to put out this cookbook? So, I started cooking like a few years ago. I am not an expert by any means, but I'm somebody that's in recovery from an eating disorder. And when I first when I first got into recovery, food was very very overwhelming for me to the point where when I would go to the grocery store, I would break down in tears because there was just food everywhere. And that to me was the enemy at the time. Um, and when I got into recovery, they taught me the importance and the value of um, of cooking and repairing your relationship with food through that way.

And I found that cooking gives me uh I found that cooking just kind of helps build my relationship with food in a way that like um I trust the food and um and it's fun. Or say you don't have, you know, an eating disorder and you're not in recovery and you want recipes that are just easy and tips on on how to, you know, how to get started in the kitchen. Like, you could be that person, too. Cooking has been so healing for me and my recovery.

It is. I always say this, especially when I have guests on, I always like to give flowers where they're due. And I cannot thank you enough for being so open about your process and your recovery and what you went through because raising four girls in this world, it's important to have people who will speak up about those types of things that are impacting a lot of people oftentimes silently. Um, so I really really appreciate you not only creating this cookbook, but just even starting that conversation, you being open to discussing it is so incredibly special for other people who are also going through it. So, thank you.

Thank you so much for coming to chat. Once again, make sure you get your tickets to see Demi on her It's Not That Deep Tour. Go to demiato.com/tour. You can also get her brand new cookbook on March 17th. Thank you again.

Thank you so much. This is so much fun. Yeah, so much fun. Thank you. And that's a wrap on this week's episode of Not Going to Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Demi on my YouTube channel on Morship Monday. I'll be back next week with a brand new episode. Follow us on social for clips throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcast. Not going to lie, is a wave original brought to you by CVS Health. Thanks to the real ones for tuning in.

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