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BILLS INSANE COMEBACK, MAHOMES AND PARSONS INJURED + BRONCOS STAY DOMINANT

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "BILLS INSANE COMEBACK, MAHOMES AND PARSONS INJURED + BRONCOS STAY DOMINANT", an episode of Pardon My Take published December 15, 2025 (2 h 35 min, about 33,372 words). It mentions 5 people, works and ideas, including 12daysofgametime.com, Chevy Silverado.

What this episode is about

In Week 15 of the NFL, notable highlights include the Buffalo Bills staging an incredible comeback, injuries impacting key players like Patrick Mahomes and Micah Parsons, and the Denver Broncos maintaining their dominance. The playoff picture becomes clearer with some teams being eliminated, alongside discussions about player performances and a promotion from Game Time celebrating fan experiences.

Key takeaways

  • Bengals' defense leaks like a broken sink; playoff chances swirl down the drain.
  • Chargers shock Chiefs, proving not even Andy Reid is pick-resistant this year.
  • Patriots collapse like a house of cards; the Bills dealt out surprise tricks.
  • Rams roar back to playoff life; Mufasa Stafford wields the Lion King crown.
  • Trevor Lawrence dances through Jets' defense; they looked more lost than Tom Hanks' package.

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  1. – 15:00: Chevy Silverado, DraftKings, Game Time
  2. – 30:00: DraftKings
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Please subscribe and repost this. Let's make this the number one sports podcast. We're We're really doing sports here. Okay. Thank you. On today's Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings, week 15 in the NFL. We had a crazy crazy Sunday. A lot of pretty catastrophic injuries, some big time games. The playoff picture is getting a little bit clearer. We have some eliminated teams. Don't let the Bengals in the playoffs. We won't.

Uh but it was a crazy crazy Sunday. We're going to talk about all that. We got who's back of the week. We have fastest two minutes and it's all brought to you by our friends at Game Time. We're almost at the end of the 12 days of game time where they're giving away prizes every day with a $5,000 grand prize at the end. If you still have not entered, go to 12daysofgame time.com. It is free and only takes a few seconds. This season, Game Time is celebrating the moments that made people fans, and they've been enabling those moments for the past 12 years. Hey, give me a concert that made you a fan of someone.

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Hey football. Yeah Martin. Yeah part of my take. Yeah, part of my take. Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, December 15th, week 15. poof. They're not going to get him. We start in Chicago where the wind was blowing and the iceman cometh as Caleb Fel Williams made the Bears faithful happy as he hit DJ Moore, more more. How do you like it? How do you like it? for two touchdowns and the route was on as DeAndre 3000. Swift said the Browns defense smells like poo poo poo running for 98 yards and two scores himself. As for the Browns, Shaderp Sanders went oopsie not once, not twice, but three times as he was legend spoiled dairy as the milk has gotten rotten for the Cleveland offense. The one bright spot was making my way to the quarterback, walking fast, lying pass, and I got a sack. Cuz you know I'd walk a thousand miles, Garrett, if I could see you

tonight. I butchered that, but thanks to Vanessa Carlton for allowing me to use her hit song. And I want you and I need you. Bears 31, BROWNS 3. WE GO TO KANSAS City where the Chiefs look to continue their 11-year streak of everyone hating them by making the playoffs. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomeio and J Juliet Smith Shuster seem to be a forbidden connection by the Chargers defense. Keandre had a little lamb. Bert fleece the Chiefs for a touchdown. and day me say day hley daylight come I pick off my homes and a really big pick tickling Andy Reed's tonsils and for the first time in the history of pardon my take the Kansas City Chiefs have been eliminated from making the NFL PLAYOFFS the Chargers 16 the Chiefs 13 we head to Foxboro where Hank was on the scene in snowy Foxboro. The game started hump for New England. Started off hot for New England when Drake Drake May scabbered in for two first quarter

touchdowns. Tayvon Ricky Henderson was flying past Bill defend flying past Bill's defenders on a 52yd rushing TD to put the Pats up 21- nothing. In the second half, the Patriots couldn't stop a nose bleed. The Bills did whatever the [ __ ] they wanted. The refs had their heads off their asses in the past D game gave up on four straight touchdown drives and a deficient title was still not clenched. Bills 35 pass 31.

Thanks Hank. We head over to Cincinnati where Zack was on the scene. In Cincinnati, Lamar Jackson 5 throws a pass as easy as 1, two, three to Rashad Muhammad Ali who floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee for a 30-yard TD. Later, Lamar Jackson 5 then passes deep to Zbe Z ba zbe z bay. I'm in the club holling. Now when I holler zbe, I'm f to get my groove on. It's so hot up in this club that I ain't got no shoes on. Holding up a big stack of them hunds. It's a rubber band. Girl, don't ask me for no cash cuz I'm not that other man.

Flowers for 28 yards and a touchdown. Tyler Fruit of the Loop keeps things high and tight. giving missiles for the entire game. The package is safe, the package is protected, and the package is right through the uprights. To seal the deal, Joe Buddenboro throws an interception harder to look at than that one evening he popped out onto the red carpet in a rocket steam football jersey. Kyle Bush Vanoi then takes a bunch of right turns before later to Aloe Vera Plank Gilman who brings all 12 essential vitamins and 20 important minerals with him to the house for six points. Ravens 24, BENGALS ZERO.

THANKS, ZACH. YOU GOT FLOW. You got flow OUT IN LA WHERE KYEN and Stimpy Williams said, "You idiot, you fool." To the Lions defense were trying to keep him out of the end zone. The Rams offense was humming as Puka Nakuna Matata said, "Ain't no worries for the rest of your days." To his quarterback as Mufasa Stafford just had to throw it up to his wide receiver and good things happened, showing the Lions who the real king was on Sunday. The good news for Detroit is they're not grateful dead yet. And Aman Ross St. Browneyed woman looks as good as ever, scoring twice on the afternoon, but it's the RAMS CLINCHING A PLAYOFF SPOT. THE RAMS 41, LIONS 34.

We head now, I forget where the game was played. IT WAS IN JACKSONVILLE FOR MEMES. In Jacksonville, Liam Cohen Wilson said, "Wow, the Jets aren't gonna play any defense today as Trevor Lawrence Taylor was on drugs looking for some Brenton Strange while having six total touchdowns." Jacobe Mike Myers found a mole in the Jets defense that had Travis Barker at the end, treating the Jets like a Kardashian while blowing their back out with three touchdowns. And Brian Tom Hanks said,

"Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get today." as he gets his second receiving touchdown of the season. Brady was cooking on his second drive of the game, but stayed in the kitchen too long, throwing three interceptions. While if peeing your pants is cool, consider me Isaiah Miles Davis, who stopped the Jaguars onslaught of scoring with a rushing touchdown for the Jets defense. Steve Wil should have assassinated himself after letting the Jaguars score 48 points. Jaguars 48, Jets 20.

Thanks. Thanks, Memes. What What was that that Liam Cohen Wilson said? Wow. All right, WE GET TO MAX IN PHILADELPHIA.

We head we head over to Philadelphia where Bruce Jayen Herd spoke to Goddard by saying, "Smite me, ALMIGHTY SMITER. YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE FIRED, NOT ME." After dropping an early touchdown right in his hands, but thank God it went off, so that that's all good. On the other side of the ball, it looks like, "OH MY GOD, WE KILLED Kenny's career after an abysmal performance." It's even affecting Bruce Powers as his stat lines are looking ghostly WHILE SCREAMING, "NO, FUCK." WHEN SEEING his quarterback week in and week out. Max Dente Crosby certainly can't crack a smile as he's fighting with his teammates on the sideline. We even got to see Tanner Miki. Do you love me? I'll be driving say you'll never ever leave from beside me cuz I want you and I need you and I'm down for you. Put together a fantastic drive to show that he may be the league's best backup. Eagles 31 Raiders zero.

We go out to Seattle where only one of these two quarterbacks was looking darn old. He wasn't seeing go. He was seeing grandpa's folks. Josh Blackhawk Downs evacuating himself into the end zone in the face of the Sam Olen Warlords and Jonathan Taylor Hicks was on whole patrol impressing the Seattle Serest's defense. The Colts took a late lead on the shores of Blake Washington Groupy's 60-yard bomb, but Seattle placekicker Jason Meyers Leonard had several heating gaming moments of his own, blasting six K balls and giving the Seahawks the win 15-3.

Standing on a corner, Jameus Winston and Hoboken. Such a fine side to see. It's a dart, my lord. Just missing the board and Mario pronounced with hard T. Come on mar. Can you please spare us from our own GM? He makes us really embarrass.

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Head to chevy.com to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado today. Okay, week 15 in the books. We'll talk about Cowboys Vikings Sunday Night Football. I still can't believe they didn't flex this game out with no actual Well, at least one team with has been been eliminated.

That's That's the nine difference. That's the nine difference. Uh crazy week 15. A lot of crazy games, a lot of really d like devastating injuries that we'll get to, but let's go let's let's go through the slate. A lot of comebacks today.

A lot of comebacks. Let's start with Bills 35, Patriots 31. What a comeback for the Bills. They were down 21 nothing in this game. Josh Allen and the Bills look like they were sleepwalking and then they score before half and they come out and and Josh Allen had five straight touchdown drives. Did whatever he wanted. James Cook was an absolute beast and the Patriots lose for the first time in 10 games. 11 games. I guess this was their 11th game.

Yeah, it was a great streak. It was also, I believe, Mike Vrabel's first loss off a buy as a head coach. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, when he was with the Titans, I believe he was perfect and this obviously his first year with the Patriots and yeah, they they looked like they were in control of the game at halftime. Uh Bills got some bad news going into the game. Uh Brenford was out with a toe.

Yep. So, they couldn't have their best quarterback and uh Drake May looked electric in the first half. He did

with his feet and with his arm. Two rushing touchdowns right out of the gate. And it was also um the first time. So, since 2017, teams, home teams that were up 21 nothing were 61-0 going into today.

And uh now this was a t-shirt and hat game for the Patriots and is now they still have a inside track on winning the AFC East. They would have to lose to uh one of the AFC East teams, which is Jets and Dolphins, which they shouldn't struggle with.

Probably not. Probably not. Uh and the Bills would have to win out for the Bills to jump them. But Hank, the hats were in the building.

The hats were in the building. Yes. Um, your thoughts. Would you like to talk? Yeah.

Or not talk? No. I mean, I I I have no problem talking. It was a It was a tough second half.

It's been a while since you had to do this. It has been a while since I've had to do this. Uh, it was a it was a very tough second half. It was felt like, you know, the first half division was ours. We're the one seed was was we were coming for the one seed. the the Broncos were going to have a tough game later in the day. Everything was going great. Drake May was was running it everywhere. Yeah, this was I'm talking about in the first moment. Yeah. No, I was

Okay. Sorry. He said in the first half. Yeah. In the first half. Yeah. Yeah. But but then Josh I mean that's that's every time we talk about the who are you worried about and even when the Bills were, you know, not playing well, it's Josh Allen was always the top of the list because of that reason. He has experience. He doesn't get phased in in situations where they're down. Um, you know, I think they have the the most comeback or whatever second half points in the league. Patriots defense couldn't stop anyone. Refs were nowhere to be found making some crazy calls. Not going to blame it on the refs. Uh, the Patriots defension.

The Patriots D couldn't stop anyone and prosecuted. Yeah. Should be mentioned and and put in jail.

And again, Drake Mays is his second year. It's his first time playing in these meaningful games. He, you know, didn't play great in the fourth quarter. I is is how I would say he he kind of missed some throws, took some some interesting shots, you know, on there's a third down where he threw it deep when he had a guy coming across the middle. It was hopefully a a good loss, you know. Hopefully it's it's a it's a they were in it. Like I said before the before the game last week, if they lose and it's close, that's something that can be built upon. Uh Stefon Digs said that after the game, he said it was it was a good good loss. Um, and they have a chance next week to basically be in another playoff game like

Steel with the Ravens Sunday Night Football. So hopefully they bounce back. It was It was It was bad.

If you were to blame the rest, what how would you do it? But you're not going to, but how would you do it?

The pass interference call uh on third down. It was a weird call. It was weird call. It was late call. The play was over and the flag came out of nowhere. That always drives me nuts. And then on the fourth down there was like three Patriots receivers getting held, no flags to be found. So that's I'm not blaming the refs cuz the Patriots D couldn't stop anyone, but if I was, it would be for that reason.

There was someone uh who we work with who who did blame the refs. Can I read you what he wrote?

Sure. He said, "The Patriots are by far the better team. These loser [ __ ] were never going to let the Patriots beat the poster boy of the NFL two times. The NFL should be [ __ ] embarrassed with what millions of eyes watched today from the referee squad. This game is so corrupt.

Was that stats our stats department? No, that was from uh one Nicholas Fisouli.

And then he also posted this picture. I don't know if you saw it. It looks real. It looks like Josh Allen kissing the referee on the lips.

Yeah. No, that does look real. I think that happened in the game, which I if I if I'm watching at home and I see that as a Pats fan, I'm like, come on. At least try to make it look like you guys are calling it neutral.

Yeah. Go in the Blue 10 if you're going to make out. Yeah. Sorry, I I actually thought that Drake May played really well in the first half. People are saying like the interception that was a great punt. It was essentially an arm punt on pass that play, but they didn't call.

Also, the interception, the the they called pass interference on a ball that the Patriots def intercepted

and somehow they ruled it a catch for the Bills and it was no pass. That was insane.

They're deep. I like that. I'm going to start using that. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, I thought that this was a it was a great opportunity for Drake May to get his first come from behind game-winning drive in his career. And I thought he was going to do it. And um I guess if he's going to learn from it, I feel like it's it's good that it happened now, right?

As opposed to happening in the playoffs, right? And after the game, Josh Allen said, "What, you know, they asked him like, "What does this team have? What makes this team special?" He said, "We don't blink." So Vrabel is no naps. The Bills are no blinks even.

Listen, the Bills, I mean, we all know what their offense can do. Their offense can get going at any point. Uh, shout out Dawson Knox who had two touchdowns. Also, uh, a father this week. And Josh is going to be a father, expectant father. Congratulations, friend Josh.

The Bills defense is their Achilles heel. But if you look at what the Bills have done in some of these like big time games last week, they couldn't get a stop. They get the back-to-back interceptions, one being a pick six against the Bengals. Remember the Steelers game when they looked absolutely dead in the first half and then Bosa gets the the sack on Rogers, fumble, touchdown. They had the two clutch game saving stops in this game. I think the Bucks game they had they closed out with two turnovers. So, their defense is like one of those situations where yes, there's they can be had, but they have also stepped up in big time moments to make big time plays and win games

cuz their offense is not the problem, right? Their defense is, but it's almost like their offense gets better when they play from behind. Yeah. When their backs up against the wall.

Yeah. I mean, 21 nothing and it was like, okay, well, if they score before half, it's going to be a game. And that's exactly what it was.

That is the largest comeback win by a visiting team in the history of Gillette Stadium. That doesn't happen at the G-spot.

Doesn't happen at the G-spot. shut him out. Uh, I want to read a tweet from an unnamed Pats fan. Run it up. Followed by six exclamation points. Give me the one seed followed by two exclamation points.

Who was that? Who was that? I'll get I'll do another blind tweet from this person. Big Cat and PFT are being [ __ ]

Yeah, you guys were just whispering behind my back the entire No. The the only whispering I did was because I opened up.

Hey Max, want to look at this thing? I'm not going to say this out loud, but like I wish I could.

I opened up. No, that was something totally different that I'm not going to say out loud. That's totally that I said you heard me say it.

Nope. The take I did out there. I don't know. Yes, you did. Now you're lying%. Now you're lying. Now you're lying because you know that had nothing to do with heard when you guys were you know what my take was and it was nothing to do with it. It was had It was about college football. Yeah. Okay.

Just saying what I heard. I pulled up Twitter at like four o'clock and the top tweet was the run it up tweet because you know how it's not in like sequential order and that's what I said to them.

That was it. Hank, I don't think that we were being [ __ ] though. I think we were we were watching the game. I I had money on it. I I took the Hungry Dog.

I was rooting for the Pats. Anyone can watch that stream and be like, "Damn, who's the Pats fan here? It's PFT."

He had the Hungry Dog. I had the Hungry Dog. I I had Drake for 300 plus today as well,

which I was rooting for. It wasn't like this season's over. This is the It's a loss to

No, I never said it was. It was a great loss. You said it. I just think you weren't used to losing.

No. And and and to to blow a lead like that, it it was tough. The defense was just

What, Max? I I got no Max, you got something. You were about to say something. Are you grinning, Max?

You look like the Grinch back there. Max, sure with the class. It's just interesting that this is the exact same thing that happened in the Bron in the Broncos Eagles game where I got mad for Hank screaming Dodington bones in my ear.

Oh, but that was I was rooting for I had the Bills too. Good point. I had Bill's money line.

He did. He bet. But you weren't You were just You weren't saying anything to my face. You were snickering behind my back. That's way worse. That is that is just showing that is showing

that that is showing respect to someone who's actually in the moment of hitting someone and saying dotting to their face.

Someone that's that's in the arena. You were in the arena at the moment. Hank. Yeah. M you guys,

you would have rather us touched you. You would have ratherington. I did not touch Max. I Max Allen

hit me in the dick, threw my phone across the room and screamed in my face. I wouldn't have cared if he was rooting for the Bills. I don't give a [ __ ]

But you were mad at us. You were mad at the at the whispering. You guys were acting like I wasn't sitting there like, "Oh my god,

it was doing it all game." What? I was not doing it all game. I was rooting for the Patriots.

I'm allowed to tweet whatever the whatever I want. You guys were being [ __ ] That's my opinion. You're lashing out. That's fine. Yeah, you're you're entitled to

You're trying to trying to No, that's fair. I have no problem calling us [ __ ] I We probably were probably are. We all are. We're all [ __ ]

Mhm. Yeah. Did you see Mike Frabel's uh quote after the game was basically drafthoshallen.com? They asked him about uh Josh Allen and how he was able to come back in that game. He said same thing everybody else sees. 6'5, 250 lbs, runs fast, hard to tackle, hard to get down on the ground, accurate, strong arm. Giving you a dissertation on league MVP. Just watch all the games. That's why they pay him60 million. I don't know what to tell you.

A dissertation on league MVP. Like he it's a correct quote. Like what do you want? Your eyes can see it. Josh Allen just he when he catches fire there's nothing you can do. And he was catching fire.

Yeah. And I mean credit to the Patriots running. I thought Henderson looked really good today.

Shot out of a cannon. Yeah. He had that big run in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Yeah.

Hank, does does it concern you that the Patriots seem to struggle when they're playing from behind?

No. I mean, they were play they they were down in the fourth quarter. took the lead back.

Yeah, but they they tend to struggle. If they struggle at all, it's when they're playing from behind.

Does not concern me. Not concerned. No. So, uh, torch update. Does Drake May still have the torch?

I don't This is like like am I like has been put out taking crazy pills? What? We had this exact conversation on Thursday that the torch was not there was no update after this game.

Well, I just want to stay. So, if you want to know the torch update, just go listen to the show we did on Thursday.

I'm curious how you watch. If the Patriots lose this game, does the torch go back? And we said no and we went over the whole thing. No.

I'm just curious where you sit right now. Torch update. Same as when we talked about it, which is Drake May still has the torch.

Yeah. What What about now? What if what if uh the Bills somehow win the division?

Is this I'm curious to know the update. He's asking for the torch update. The update on it. Okay. Same answer. Go listen. I I'll send you a link.

We're elderly. Please don't be mean to your elderly. I just I want to know your emotions after the game, Hank.

It's the same. If we lose the division, then it's And then we're going to We can have a discussion about the torch.

Okay. The torch stays where it is. Yeah. The torch is torch is ours. You split the games.

H You split the games this year, but we're going to We had the It's the division,

right? Right. Right. So, whoever wins the division current torchbearer. Yeah. Okay. How do you feel about the uh the MVP race?

How do I feel about it? Yeah. Yeah. Did this swing you one way or the other? Uh I think Matt Safford is probably going to win.

Yeah. He's minus 300 right now on DraftKings. Yeah. To win the MVP. How do you feel about it? Josh Allen, right?

He got his odds got a lot better today. That's awesome. He went to plus 550. That's great.

Yeah. Uh are you upset? Yeah. Okay. Good. Yeah. Good. Good to say it. Be mad. It's good to say it. Open space.

It's not open space. Everything I say you guys just to deny. But yeah, I'm mad. You're annoying.

What? What did we deny that you were being [ __ ] Oh, no. I said I just said that we're all [ __ ]

Okay. I'm Yeah. How do you acknowledge that? I was whis I whispered for one one second. I was locked in on the Bears game. I did.

No, that was when you hit the [ __ ] I will I will I remember I remember everything.

Me, too. Donington Bones. Good. Max, I don't care. Like you you you have you have rights. You like to like I don't care about you. You You can do it. Like you I I [ __ ] with you as much as I humanly can. Max Big and PF like to act like they're everybody's friends. And then And then when they get mad, they're like And then if I say something about the Bears, Big Cat will literally [ __ ] cry.

I HAD NO I HAVE NO PROBLEM. WAIT, YOU'RE GOING TO CRY. When did I SAY I HAD A PROBLEM WITH YOU calling me a [ __ ] I don't have a problem with you calling me a [ __ ]

I know. I'm just saying like you're It's fine. act like you don't troll and then when I you back you

No, no, I I I told you exactly in the moment. I said I saw the tweet at the top of my

Not to me. YEAH, I SAID THAT. YOU SAID IT BE behind me. Well, I mean, did you you were in a you were in a very prickly mood. I wasn't going to say it,

but you were like talking loud enough where I could clearly hear you. I Well, I didn't even I I I like whispered to I showed them the phone. I should have You're right. I should have said it directly to you,

right? Okay. My bad. Listen, the the tough That probably would have gone really well. The tough losses in the gambling cave if I could hear you. So it's like I knew you were talking about me literally behind my back.

Okay. The tough losses in the gambling cave. You have every every right to lash out cuz we're going to be doing we're going to say things that sound like compliments but really aren't compliments. We're going to we're going to do all the psychological warfare and Yeah. It does suck when you lose games like that.

Yeah. It's all right. We'll be back. Yeah. Yeah. Patriots are fine. Patriots, you know, they did lose the one seed today.

We didn't have it going into this. I just didn't like that you said if you had won and the and the Broncos had lost.

We didn't lose it though. We didn't have it. I wasn't trolling you all game. I was barely I didn't talk to you all game.

I know. I never said you were. Okay. PFT was I was No, PFT bet the Patriots. He was doing his like his his long con troll, but that's fine.

What longcon? I was I was I was gambling on the Patriots. I know. I know. I'm not

What happened to our What happened to our podcast we were going to do about the Pats? Do your pod.

I have no issue with with your behavior during the game. It's It is It's fine. after the game. Slight issue

just I I don't care. It's all good. Like you guys are being [ __ ] I said you're [ __ ]

Yeah, they're whispering. We are [ __ ] where it is. Yeah. Yeah. We're all [ __ ]

Dington boat. We've all had bad [ __ ] moments. If it makes you feel any better, Hank, the 2021 Titans last loss of the regular season was also in week 15.

Okay. Okay. So, you can turn this right around just like the Remember the Titans, Hank. Dude, Harold Landry made like a sack in the first half and PFT is like, "That's Harold Landry."

Oh, superstar player from the Titans when they got the one seed. Again, I've moved past the the 300 sat, so I'm not going to bring that up anymore.

You guys have It's kind of broken containment because now whenever anyone throws for 300 yards, Hank and I get tagged in a lot of tweets about it. But I just wanted to tell people, stand down. I don't care about that. The that number doesn't mean anything. It's an arbitrary line in the sand. Let's just focus on the playoffs.

Let's win some playoff games. Agreed. So Hank, you the Patriots still have a 63% chance to win the AFC East. If you just beat I think if you just beat the Jets and Dolphins, you're in. You you win the AFC East.

Yeah. You can lose to the Ravens and still win the AFC East if you We got to beat the Ravens.

Are you worried about the Ravens if you win those other two games? They're a good team.

I've said it. I've said it all year. the the teams with quarterbacks and and coaches that have, you know, experience in the playoffs like those those are the teams that scare you and and the Bills and Josh Allen showed why.

Are you worried about the Jets at all playing spoiler? Specifically memes like this that would be memes.

We're we're focused on the Ravens right now. I'm not going to get ahead of ahead of myself.

Okay. Have you napped? No. Okay. Have you blinked? Yes. How's left center going?

It's It's all right. It's hard. It's not frustrating being friends with them right now. I like this.

Hank's my boy. Yeah, hates all of our boys. Hank's my boy. But the the truest mark of whether somebody is actually your real boy is if you root for them to fail when it comes to their sports teams that they love very much.

Mhm. I have no issue with it. I I have no issue with it. By the way, just do it to my face, not behind my back.

Okay. But you were sitting in front of me. Exactly. We should have the show. Yeah. Yeah.

Been like, "Hey, hey, look, there's a tweet that I saw." Hey, uh, Grock on, what about the thing you said on the stream? Are do you stand by the thing you said in the stream that you said you weren't going to talk about in the podcast?

What was that? What thing? Patriots are going to make it Super Bowl. Well, Hank, that happened on the cave and I told you manto man like this is not for the podcast. It's for the stream only. Sometimes you have to provide content that's stream only for the people that are tuning in. Got it. Otherwise, they hear it all.

That was exclusive for the stream. Yeah, exclusive. And was I saying it to to reverse jinx you? Who's to say? Uh, it ended up working out that way. But yeah, I guess in my heart of hearts, I'm a little bit I'm a little bit concerned about the idea of owing you $50,000. I guess $42,000.

Mhm. I'd rather not owe you that money after the end of that game. Do you still think that

off the record? Off the off the podcast. Okay. Off podcast. Stream only. My stream only thoughts on that. I don't think the Patriots are going to make the Super Bowl this year. I think if they get the one seed, they could.

Yeah, they could win they could win two home playoff games and be in the Super Bowl. I I don't know if winning three three is hard.

I agree. The buy is massive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh and the Bill Listen, you got a 21 nothing lead on the Bills. That that that happened.

Nothing. Yeah. But that did happen. It did happen. You got out to that lead. You got out to that lead.

Mr. First quarter, Drake May lit it up. He had a great first half. The Bills have such a funny uh list of this season they've beaten Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, and Drake May. And they've lost to Davis Mills, Tua, and Michael Penn. And Drake May

and Drake May. Yeah. Yeah. But it's it's it's been I don't really know what to make of this Bills team.

They have Josh. It's basically if they have Josh Allen, they they can get out of any problem.

Is Josh Allen on his [ __ ] [ __ ] Yeah. He get they might win. Get get you out of any problem, Josh Allen. But you don't want to be in too deep of a problem in the playoffs. That's why

if you go down 20 one nothing in the playoffs, that's a different that feels like a different problem.

That's why I feel like Josh Allen, he should be definitely in the MVP consideration. Like if you took Josh Allen off the Bills and replaced him with any other quarterback. They're a bad team. Yes. And with Josh Allen, they're going to compete for the for the AFC. Well, they're going to compete for the division title.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any last words? Baltimore beat Baltimore. Yeah. And that's Sunday Night Football. Yeah. Yeah. It listen, you had been out of practice of losing.

That is true. It had been a long time since you had to sit on the podcast and lose.

What's your biggest drought as a sports fan? Like in between championships? Uh, we got to be close to getting into it now. From the Celtics to now.

No, I'm trying to think. It was the Celtics 200 to the Patriots or 2008 Celtics to the 2013 Patriots. Is that it?

What about since the pod started? I don't know. Pod, it's nothing. Yeah. All right. Well, let's go to the next game. You This was I mean, bad news because Patrick Mahomes got hurt, but good news the Chiefs have been eliminated. Chargers 16, Chiefs 13. Patrick Mahomes does have what seems like a torn ACL. So he is uh which sucks a lot.

Per Adam Shfter, the Chiefs and Mahomes are exploring surgical options. So he has a torn ACL.

So he has a Yeah. torn ACL. Yes. And they'll be exploring surgery for it. Yes. So they're eliminated. The the Kansas City Chiefs have been eliminated from the playoffs for the first time since 2014.

This podcast has never done a show without the the Chiefs in the playoffs. Yep. Um it's pretty crazy the run they they have had the seven years from 2018 till obviously this year is the eighth year but for those seven years they went to seven straight conference championship games five Super Bowls won three of them insane insane run very similar to the Patriots run but now it is over for at least this year because they will not be in the playoffs and Patrick Mahomes which sucks will probably miss sometime next year I would assume.

Probably. probably miss the beginning of next year. I guess it all depends on how bad the the tear is if it is the ACL and and then what they have to do to it, but

there's a chance he could get back to start the season. Yeah. Um but probably more likely that he'll he'll come back after it started, but be there for the majority of it. What's crazy is that this will be the first time that the AFC Championship game doesn't have either Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady as a quarterback in it

since 2010. That's crazy. How nuts is that? That's when it was Ben Rothllessberger and

Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez. Yeah, Mark Sanchez of the Jets. It's been This is like truly the end of an era. It sucks that Mahomes to his ACL. I thought it was like a little bit of a dirty hit that he got taken out on.

Yeah. But Mahomes also keeps plays alive. He does keep plays alive. It sucks that he tore his ACL. The the NFL is way more fun when Mahomes is playing. Um

it kind of took some of the joy out of celebrating for all the Chiefs haters. Yeah,

it was harder to to truly enjoy the moment. Finally, the Chiefs and Mahomes are not going to be in the playoffs to steal everybody else's joy. Oh yeah, he tore his ACL. That's kind of a bummer.

When they were going down the field, so they, you know, it it it weirdly left that that little glimmer of, well, if they had scored there and won that game,

could they have gone to the playoffs? They weren't eliminated until losing this game. Patrick Mahomes

will will not take a snap with his team eliminated. He's never taken a snap with his team eliminated. that that's that now becomes moot because he obviously was out of the game after Gardner Gardenner Mchu came in and and threw the interception. Um Hank, this has got to I mean no no Chiefs in the playoffs.

Yeah, it's it's it's it's I feel bad for Patrick Mahomes and the injury. Yeah. Uh that was a shitty way. It's it's

kind of tough. It's I guess similar I don't know obviously way different circumstances. He didn't commit a crime. He's not in jail, but it's

probably similar to like Ohio State fans where it's like you can't It feels kind of feel bad like

Oh, I don't sit feel bad at all with Michigan. No, they don't feel bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I It is crazy though. You see everyone talking about how, you know, Brady in his whatever it was won three Super Bowls and then is an eighth year tore ACL. I think this is Mahomes technically his ninth year because he he didn't start obviously his first year. tears his ACL. Difference being Brady to ACL in week one, Mahomes does it in week 15, which is going to take a little longer to come back for next year. But yeah, it is it is weird having the both the Chiefs out of the playoffs and then having Mahomes have that injury, which sucks because Patrick Mahomes like it it like selfishly I was like, "Oh, Christmas night is ruined,

right? That's going to stink." Like that we're not that we don't like Gardner Mu.

Mchu on Christmas actually that could he he kind of looks Christlike. Yeah. Yeah. But it it's it stinks and I feel really bad for Patrick Mahomes because that sucks to have injury like that and have to rehab for the entire off seasonason after what was already kind of a season from hell.

We're probably going to get a a big documentary about his his workouts, his rehab. The State Farm commercial where he's in the training room is going to be kind of awkward to look at.

Yep. And and that was probably the last time Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce play on the same football field.

I feel like the Chiefs are going to be a different looking team next time they step on the field.

Oh, they need a full reset. That was full reset. They're going to have Pickkins. Yeah. Or not Pickkins. They're going to have uh uh they're going to have Pitts.

Pits somehow. Somehow. They are in capell going into this offseason. But I I think they could probably just be like, "Hey, Mahomes, can we just restructure your contract?"

Yeah. Give you a lot of money up front. And he'd be like, "Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Go ahead."

Yeah, that works. As for the Chargers, the Chargers are just tough as nails. They just win ugly games, rock fights. The two teams combined were 11 for 27 on third downs today. Mhm.

The game basically swung though with Justin Herbert throwing that touchdown pass at the end of the half when the Chiefs were up uh what was it 133. It felt like the Chiefs were going to roll him. It felt like everything was going to, you know, be good in in Chiefs land and then Justin Herbert goes down the field, scores that touchdown, makes it a three-point game going to half and then it was just, yeah, let's just rock fight all the way to the end.

The defense for the for the Chargers stepped up in the second half, too. Two big interceptions at the end of the game. They went punt, punt, pick, pick. Those were the Chiefs four possessions

in the second half. I loved what Harbaugh said after the game. Did you Did you read his quote?

No. What he said? He goes, "It's a ball team." There it is. This is a ball team.

Yep. Starting to think, "This is my favorite ball team that I've ever been on." Yep.

I've been on a lot of teams. None better than this team. It's a ball team. A real ball team.

I think the Chargers got to be the number one ball team. They got to be the number one ball team.

I got Chargers. Detroit Pistons are a ball team. Mhm. The 49ers are a ball team. Yep.

The Saints might be a ball team. There's a difference. Saints are a ball team. Yeah.

You don't think the Saints are a ball team? No, I I do. Hank shook his head. I don't really understand what the the Yeah, actually. Yeah. You know what? Yeah, I do. I do.

They're a ball team. Harbaugh said this is the best ball team. My favorite ball team I've ever been on.

They're just a ball team. There's a difference between a great team and a ball team. There's a pure

He's not saying they're great at football. This is just a ball team. They just fight for everything. Every every moment is going to be tough. Like that's just what the Chargers do. I mean, Justin Herbert has been sacked 11 times in the last two games. Justin Herbert needs to get all the credit. He's playing with a broken hand. He Justin Herbert has been sacked four plus times in a game, six times this year. The Chargers record in those games, five- one.

Yeah, he that's a that's a ball team. That's a ball quarterback. They're 5-0 in the division. I don't think the Chargers have ever gone 5-0 to start the season inside their division right now. And it's the first time they've swept the Chiefs since 2014, which also was the last time the Chiefs didn't, you know, miss the playoffs. So, yeah, this it's it's a true ball team. I don't know if they can

go to the Super Bowl, but I know that they can just muck it up with anyone and make anything a game. That's really what what what they've like proven to do, especially in the last two wins.

They're physical. Very physical. Very physical. Uh yeah, just gutty performance from Justin Herbert again. If he I was thinking if he gets married, he should actually he should take Madison's name.

Oh, Justin Beer. Justin Beer would be an awesome name tag. Justin Beer would be so sick.

Yeah. So, uh, the the Chiefs will play the last three games. It's meaningless, which that actually does hurt you a little, Hank, because they do play the Broncos on Christmas night. And, uh, the I saw this stat in Mike Tomlin's 19 seasons with the Steelers. He's played a total of one meaningless game eliminated from the playoffs.

That's pretty cool. One one single game. Um but yeah, the uh also Chris Jones didn't realize that he was eliminated until he was at the podium. That's a tough one to find out.

That's a tough moment right there for them to tell you to let you know that hey,

you guys are out of the playoffs. I mean, if you're on the Chiefs, you don't expect to ever be eliminated. You're just like, what do you mean this game's meaningless? Yeah.

What do you mean tank? Yeah, because it was just it I I mean I lost money on the Chiefs for the last time this year. That would be one nice thing because I did I did think they were just going to keep getting off the mat. I thought they were going to win this game. They were probably going to win this game if Patrick Mahomes doesn't tear his ACL. I don't know. Maybe not though because the Chargers are a ball team.

Yep. Bills fans got to be the happiest. Bills. Why? Oh yeah. First playoffs without Patrick Mahomes in it.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you how if they do if the Bills do win the Super Bowl this year, it's actually going to be sneaky like a good thing for Chiefs fans.

Well, yeah. Now that they're out of it, they could be like, "Yeah, the one year that we weren't in it." Yeah, they

I wonder if I wonder if any Chiefs fans are going to be rooting for for the Bills if that mean probably not root for them, but like they you have that that big big ace in the hole if the Bills do win the Super Bowl.

Yeah. Didn't have to go through Kansas City, by the way. At least we don't have to watch uh the Eagles and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl again. Yeah.

So, America wins. If you go all the way back to 1998, this is the first playoff since 1998 that won't feature uh Tom Brady, Pat, Pton Manning, or Patrick Mahomes.

All three of those guys have been in every single NFL playoffs 1998 or or at least one of those three guys, I mean, have been in in the playoffs since 1998.

I think Mahomes will be fine. Yeah, he's gonna be fine. That is the one thing with these ACL injuries. Uh they're not like they used to be. I mean, in that you can you can bounce back like it's not he he will the one thing that sucks for the Chiefs is they will probably not be very good next year too.

That is one thing that you can like Mahomes is going to come back later than probably the start of the season. And we've seen with the ACL injuries, you're not 100% for a little bit. So that that's where like it's not only you get eliminated from the playoffs, but next year's looking like it's going to be an uphill battle as well.

Yeah. Maybe bring back Castle back. That's what the That's what the Patriots did.

Yeah, Gardenner Mchu Christmas Night. That's going to be fun. I do think it's going to be fun. Gardner Mitchu is a a very very fun backup.

That's going to be a fun time. At least we have that. So Hank, no. No Momes. No Mahomes. Yeah.

No. Even if he had not torn his ACL, the Chiefs were eliminated. Yeah. So you could just separate the two.

I I was right. I said this podcast. What did you say? Chiefs aren't going to make the playoffs.

Yeah, you did. Mhm. Yeah. PFD eliminated them like three weeks ago. Yeah, I think on Thanksgiving, right?

Yeah, you eliminated that. You eliminated their ass. Yep. They did have just report so many games where you're just like, what what is happening this season?

Yeah, it's got to be the most frustrating season in a very long time for Chiefs fans. You could have had them as your picky team.

I know that's true. Thanks. I've been reminded of it a lot. Appreciate it. I really I really regret whispering that tweet to you during the Gambling Cave.

You think that he's just Yeah, I do. I regret it. I wish you go back in time and take it back.

I mean, he was just pointing out that it was at the top of of the timeline. And then I pointed, you know what I whispered to BigCat? I was like, "Look at this. It was that Grock on X.com, the AI machine." Um, it had the recap of the Patriots Bills game and it was Patriots win in a blowout because Patriots were up at halftime and that's when it it grabbed it. So that's what I was showing that to Big Cat. I didn't feel like saying it out loud because I was like, "Hey, Hanks down bad right now."

Yeah. I didn't want to. Our hungry dog just lost and I didn't want to rub it in.

Me and you were in lock step today. We had like all the same bets. Always. Always lock step. Always lock step. All right,

Max Memes. Actually, I'm curious to know memes's thoughts. At least we got the touchdown parlay.

What are you rooting against him? Now he's rooting against Now he's I like that. I like that.

Now he's rooting against it. Yeah. Memes, as a hater, you're right. We We did. What are your thoughts on the Chiefs missing the playoffs? I was the first one to report it

when uh a couple episodes before you reported it. Oh wow. Damn. Really? So I copied your report?

You copied the report? Wow. Wow. I'm sorry. I said and then you you guys were like, "Are you sure, Patrick Mahomes?" I was just like, "Yeah, [ __ ] it."

It is a big day for the people who have been predicting the Chiefs to not make the playoffs every year for the last 5 years.

That's why it sucks so much though that Mahomes got hurt. Obviously, it sucks that he got hurt, but it sucks even worse that nobody can take as much joy in it. Yeah. As this day that everyone's been waiting for it.

No, I know Chiefs get to hide be like, "Hey, my our quarterback got hurt." Yeah. Stay classy.

Yeah. Come on. Stay classy, guys. You can't [ __ ] celebrate. It's true. It should have been a c celebratory day. It was not.

Yeah. I got a I got a text from Kirk Goldsbury earlier and it was just a uh a picture of an internet comment that was uh somewhere Dylan Raol is jumping violently up and down in his apartment trying to injure his knee. I thought that was a pretty funny take on it.

That is a funny take. Yeah. Uh, okay. Next game. Ravens 24. What? What, Max? What were you going to say?

No, it was me. I actually like the Chiefs. I'm not a hater of the Chiefs. Really?

They were over sha they were casting a shadow over the Patriots dynasty. So, I like the Chiefs.

They were They're doing you a favor. I kind of have the same take. I don't really hate the Chiefs either.

I I didn't really have any feelings for them other than they were just I wanted to see Patriots Chiefs in the first round. I thought that would have been a fun game to watch. The only time I really hated the Chiefs was when it was when the Bears still had Mitch, but we're like three quarterbacks on from that. So, cuz that that was everyone was like, "Oh, Mitch and Patrick Mahomes." That's forever ago.

I never really hated the Chiefs. I just wanted to see Josh Allen get to a Super Bowl. And then I I did not want to see another matchup of the Chiefs and the Eagles in the Super Bowl last year. Actually, Max, you got you you broke the Chiefs

for now. Yeah, I think we actually I wouldn't hate the Chiefs if I were you either. As a national sports podcast, I think we put a lot of respect on the Chiefs for the most part.

Hank, did you hate the Chiefs? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Do you hate me? No. Okay. Do you hate me?

No. That one was a little different. I love you, Hank. Love you, too. I love you.

I love you guys. I love you. Okay. Ravens 24, Bengals zero. Don't let the Bengals in the playoffs. We didn't.

There it is. No, we did not. Uh the Bengals got the day off to an interesting start by not shoveling their stadium entirely. Yes.

Not cleaning off the seats of snow. Who Florio being on that was the absolute best.

He was all over it. All over it. And I guess the the Bengals were saying that it's easy enough for fans to brush the snow off their own seats. We're going to prioritize the aisles and cleaning up the concourses. That was a big controversy in uh in in Florio's mind before the game started, but then after the game started, it was just a shitkicking.

The Bengals look bad. Joe Burrow did not play with Joy today. He said Joe Burrow said no team would have won with me as their quarterback today.

Yeah. So, he was very honest about it. It was the the perfect I don't want to say perfect because Bengals fans obviously this has been a terrible season but it was the perfect encapsulation of the Bengals that your defense finally submitted and they've been playing better recently but your defense played well

and that the Ravens only had 40 plays of offense and your offense uh had no points and that was the first time in Joe Burrow's career that he started and finished a game and got shut out.

Got shut out. He had uh a couple bad interceptions. That one that Aloha Gilman had though was awesome. The the run back cuz Kalanoi picked it off and then he was just like, "Here, you take it. Take it. You're faster than me."

Instead of throwing a lateral, he was just just like, "You are a young man. Please run. I cannot run.

You have it. I'll I'll just uh" He watched he had the best seat in the house afterwards.

Yeah. But it was So Lamar stays perfect week 15 and later. So 16-0 now. Uh week 15 regular season. So, regular season games, the Bengals are out. The Ravens maybe found a little something in terms of identity where their defense is playing well and, you know, they're running the football. Derrick Henry had 100 yards, only on 11 carries. Lamar didn't have to throw the ball much. It does feel like their offense still isn't like back to peak Lamar, but maybe they found something.

Maybe. Yeah. And I I was actually kind of hoping for the crazy scenario where they would they would win the division with seven wins. That would have been funny. U but now they've got a big game against the Patriots next Sunday,

then at the Packers, and then at the Steelers to close out their season. Yeah. I I have no idea how that's going to sh I The Ravens are the one team in the NFL that I genuinely cannot figure out. They're they're so weak to know which team's going to show up. Yeah.

I thought that the Bengals would would at least compete. I didn't think it was going to be a blowout either way. Um, but I have no idea what to if they lost to the Patriots by 30 points next week and then beat the Packers like 17-10. That would not surprise me at all.

Yeah, the Ravens could go to the Super Bowl and not or not make the playoffs. Both would be like, "Yeah, that makes sense."

Yeah, makes perfect sense. Do we think Zack Taylor might be done? It feels like it might be with Joe Burrow's comments, which he then clarified today saying he wasn't talking about the organization. He was just talking about his fun with football. He also had a closed dooror meeting with the team which no one has talked about yet. Um but yeah, doesn't it feel Zack Taylor also had a tough one where um he was asked afterwards, "What are your thoughts on the team's effort?" And he said, "We held them to three points in the second half. The Ravens did score 10 points." I guess they technically did hold them to three points because there was the pick six,

but still, I don't know. I feel like Zack Taylor might be the sacrificial lamb of this Terrible, terrible Bengals season.

So, his contract runs through 2026. Doesn't matter. I feel like you don't think so.

No contracts for coaches for the Bengals coaches. Yeah, maybe. But not really. Still if Joe Burrow's unhappy cuz how much they paying him? They're probably not paying him a lot.

I think even I think even for uh for the Bengals, I would say that they're probably going to let him coach it out. I think it does make a big difference for them. You think that he's gonna you you don't think he's gonna be fired? One year left.

I think they would I think they're fired. If if Joe Burrow is not happy and he's like, "Hey, it's it's Zack Taylor that he's gone.

He has to be gone." I just got a text I just got a text from our our dear close personal friend Chris Burman. Big

Oh, yeah. I got the same one. Yeah. He said, "Sound bite for you." Mhm. When we interviewed in May, you asked me for a bold prediction. I said, "The Bills won't play Kansas City in January." Don't know why, but well, it's true.

Yep. Credit Swam. That's That's why they call him Swam. He is. He saw into the crystal ball.

So memes, actually, you have to credit Chris Burman. Yeah, you copy Chris Burman.

Yep. So say thank you to Chris Burman. Thank you, Chris. Thanks. There you go. Yeah, I feel like Zack Taylor will I think he'll probably stick around for next year. Although he I think any other franchise he would definitely be on the hot seat.

Yeah. Whose line is it anyway? Next week, Sunday Night Football, Patriots Ravens in Baltimore on DraftKings. Whose lines anyway? I'm going to guess.

I know what it is. You do? Uh, Ravens minus 2 and a half. That's what I was going to say.

It was one and a half a few hours ago. I'll double check right now. Is it It's two and a half now.

Okay. Hungry dog. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Go right back to it. What were the other legs in Hungry Dog? You You had uh Saint

Saints Lions. Okay, next game. Bears 31, Browns three, Bears are 10 and four. That was a uh that was an ass kicking and it was it I I loved that it was an ass kicking because it was just a take care of business type of game.

Yeah, Caleb played awesome. That throw to DJ Moore, one of the coolest throws ever. I don't know. I still don't know how he how he did that. And uh he was asked afterwards if it was like just a prayer and he said, "No, I can make that throw. I can make any throw.

I can make any throw." cuz when you let go of it, it seemed like the kind of throw that coaches don't want to see you make,

but it was perfect. I guess in a game like this against the Browns, Ben Johnson probably gave him the latitude like just go out there and make [ __ ] plays, dude.

Yeah. And the and the offense looked good. This was the first time the Bears have had a complete game win in uh I don't even know. I I cuz we've won so many games like where, you know, quarters have looked bad and we win by the you know, by a block field goal, whatever it may be. This was a complete game win where the offense looked good. The defense was taking the ball away. The defense looked good. I that's probably has a lot to do with the Browns being bad offensively and their offensive line being completely uh broken and out. But yeah, it felt good.

It was like a no doubter. The only bad things that happened in this game was Luther Burton got hurt. I I think Cole KT's okay. He's he's obviously important and both those guys are important because Luther Burden looked really good. And then Adun got hurt in warm-ups which keeps happening to the Bears. I their training staff something's going on.

What happened in warm-ups? What was the I don't know, but this happened to Kyler Gordon last week. Tried to warm up. Now he's on IR. But the I I'm not going to look at negatives. This and we don't have to talk a lot about this game because it was such an asskicking and it was like I there was a little part of me when I woke up this morning was like oo don't let the Browns hang around and they didn't. They didn't.

Not at all. It was just a complete like no doubter run the DeAndre Swift has been awesome.

Picked off Shidor three times. Shador got unlucky with the one that that uh Jaylen Johnson picked off in the end zone. That was insane. That was a perfect pass.

Should have been touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah. Also with the Browns, Shador got the wrong wristband to start the game. I don't know how that happens.

Crazy. Do are they actually sabotaging Shadore? I don't know. They gave him a wristband with the wrong plays on it. Now I put that on the team and then I put it on Shadore for not realizing until like 3 minutes into the game that he had the wrong plays on his wristband.

Yes. Yes. That's got to be a nightmare where like your coach is calling down like you're getting the play call, you're looking at your wristband and you're so new to the NFL that you're like, "Am I [ __ ] this up?"

Yeah. What's going on? He probably thought he was [ __ ] it up for a while. Uh but that's that's a very Browns thing to happen.

Very Browns thing to happen. Miles Garrett 21 and a half sacks. He's one away from tying the record. It's kind of crazy he's doing it for a three- win team.

Yeah. For for a three- win team that's getting blown out. Yeah. Yeah, because the Browns, we we've talked about they don't get they they keep they they are competitive for halves. They were not competitive. They had I think there was at one point we the Bears had more first downs than the Browns had plays.

Yeah, that was how like I we watching the game I was like have the Browns they had one big pass somewhere in the second quarter and other than that I don't think they had a first down for like the first three quarters.

What I liked about it proved that Caleb can play in the cold. Oh yeah, it was fun.

He's a cold weather quarterback. He was very cold. Oh, he looked so comfortable and and it was awesome to see. And again, it's the complete victory that we've that's kind of been eluding the Bears where they just took care you the Browns are bad, so it's not like a walk around being like, do you see that? But if you want to be a good team, you got to beat the [ __ ] out of bad teams and not let bad teams hang around. And that's exactly what the Bears did. And now the swings in the NFC standings are just insane. The Bears went from after after beating the Eagles on Black Friday, they went to the one seed. Then they went all the way down to the seven seed after losing the Packers.

Then they're all the way back up to the two seed now. And I think it's going to change like four more times because we have big games against the Packers on Saturday, then the 49ers, then the Lions. Everything's still on the table. The Bears still could not make the playoffs. I think I am fairly confident they will cuz I think they're a very good team. But everything is still on the table for which is pretty crazy to say for a 10 and 14 team.

A very good team. Yeah. The Bears have upgraded to very Where are you at on a scale of 1 to 10?

I think they're a very good team. No, but where are you at personally? Oh, I've been at like a nine and a half for a long time.

Nine and a half. Yeah. Yeah. I've been saying that. I've been walking around and I I I six out of 10 went away so long ago. I think it was probably Steelers game. That was way long ago. next week is such a big game.

Huge game. Such a big game. Massive, massive game cuz that was a shitty loss last week and now you get to do it again with the Packers. And the Niners game is going to be

massive because of the NFC standings and like where the Niners are at. So you guys go two and one, you're in the playoffs no matter what.

Uh I believe two and one's in the playoffs no matter what. I think one and two you could it could be a problem.

Yeah. So, like I said, it's I I said this I think last week or the week before, like there could very well be an 11- win team that doesn't make the NFC playoffs.

Do you think that Caleb's going to get to 4,000 yards? Uh, probably not. And I don't really care.

Okay. Like, that's obviously something eventually he will he will do, but I Yeah, this season has been so much fun. I don't that that that I haven't thought about 4,000 yards.

I just didn't look at where he was at, but he's had a good season, so I didn't know if that was in the realm of possibility. Also, the stat, which was pretty crazy, he is uh let me pull it up. He has thrown the fewest interceptions of any quarterback in NFL history through his first thousand passes.

That's pretty good. 12 interceptions through the th first, thousand passes. That's really good.

Yeah. Yeah, he's playing well. And it again, just a complete victory is nice to see. Do we think I love Kevin Stfansky? I think he's a very good coach. It probably feels like this might be it. So, I I feel like Stfansky, you'd be doing him a favor almost by firing.

Yeah, I I think he probably wants to start something fresh because it's it's got to be really shitty to coach the Browns.

Yeah, I think I think he'd probably get hired immediately if he was fired. Yeah,

I think he would probably last like a week. How like what is this Miles Garrett celebration going to look like? Because obviously he's an insane player. He's a Hall of Famer. He's had an incredible season, but there's a good chance he breaks this record like on a Sunday afternoon when the Browns are down 24 to seven.

Yeah. I mean, the the Browns season the Browns season is pretty much like get Miles Garrett the single season sack record and then hope that Shadore has the right wristband on.

Yeah, that's those are the bars that you have to clear and clear. Hit those hit those boxes and we're and we're good to go.

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Okay, speaking of uh easy beating the [ __ ] out of teams, Eagles 31 Raiders zero Max. Felt good, right?

Oh, we haven't had a win like that all year. We had talkative. We finally got little game Max.

We got We got Little Gay Max and we had Chatty Max and it was a joy to be around.

It felt good. It felt good. Uh the Raiders are horrendous, so I'm not going to look too much into it. They're the worst team in the league. I I honestly I know we've had this disagreement, PFT. I The Raiders are the worst team in the league. I don't I do not think that there's a debate for it.

I agree. The Raiders are so much fun to play against. Every team should get to play against

You're shaking your head. Today's Jets are the worst. I Dude, the Raider What are you talking The Raiders had 75 yards.

That's total. They had seven first downs. Memes. Let me just repeat that. 75 yards. That's not like that was their one quarter. That was the whole game.

They had 29 yards passing beams, 75 yards. And this isn't the first Remember that the same thing with the Chiefs where they had like three first downs. They are they are one of the worst teams like ever. It's crazy watching them play.

I take it back. Yeah. Yeah. The 75 yards. You didn't see that. 75 yards is that's so hard to do in

Brandon Graham looked like he was 22 years old today. It's crazy. He was flying around. Kenny Kenny Picket, we've had this this conversation. I think Kenny Picket is now the most sackable starting quarterback in the NFL.

Yeah, he's so sackable. Yeah, that's I mean Pete Carol's got to be in hell. I don't know why he's still coaching.

Max Crosby's got to be in hell. Max Crosby is getting upset. I feel so bad for that guy.

I do too. The Eagles put in their backup offense with like a quarter to play. The Eagles backup offense memes had 79 yards.

They they just ran ran out the the entire fourth quarter. Yeah, they had four more yards than the than the starting offense for the Raiders.

Siri finally listened to the people of Philadelphia and he he he benched Jaylen Herz and put Tanner McKe in the game

who looked great, right, Max? Yeah, he did look good. Tanner McKe did look good.

I mean, Jaylen Herz did look good, too. The entire offense looked good. AJ Brown looked good. Caught a touchdown today. Dallas Goddard had an awesome game. It's just playing the Raiders makes you feel so good about your team.

But Max, they should they should force the Raiders to play against every team in the NFL so that we can all have a week where we think to ourselves like, "Oh, football is fun."

Yeah. Right. They there's the largest shutout win for the Eagles in 35 years. Max, even though this is the Raiders and they're terrible, we were saying it during the game two years ago when you guys had your collapse, you lost to a four- win Cardinals team like at home. So this is this

it was three it was three wins at the time and made it their fourth but this is like you don't obviously you're not like oh everything's fixed but beating teams that are bad this soundly is what good teams should do.

Yeah it it felt good. It felt good. We haven't watched the offense look that way in a while. And the Raiders offense I should have known. I I was nervous going into this game just because we haven't seen it. The Raiders offense never was going to have a chance against Eagles defense. Eagles defense is still very very good and they proved that again today. They were doing some creative play calling which was which was nice to see. Two shovel pass touchdowns which you know at least it's a little motion. It's something a little different than something different

than the vanilla offense that is it has looked like for most of this season. It was good to see but it's a [ __ ] Raiders so I'm not going to I'm not going to like think everything is fixed. The four highest passer ratings in a game this season. Can you guys name the four quarterbacks? Four highest passer rating games this season.

Passer rating is a dumb stat. Is it not QBR? We're talking pass. The one that's like 158.3 or whatever. Yeah.

Yeah. Hank, you want to take a guess? Daniel Jones against the Raiders. No. Do you want to take a guess, Hank? Drake May.

He is one of them. He's the third highest. Jared Goff is the second highest. Jaylen Herz.

The fourth and the first are Jaylen Herz. Wow. He has two of the top four passer rating games on the season. Today was the fourth highest.

I disagree. I think it's a good stat. It is. I disagree with I disagree with what you said.

He looked really good today. He and he said afterward, "Everybody needs to remember where I come from and how I'm built."

Yeah. All the people who were talking about the, you know, uh, taking a [ __ ] puking, running around five times, and then throwing the ball straight into the ground.

That was a statistical analysis, Max. That was, that was numbers. That wasn't me casting any judgment on Super Bowl champion Jaylen Herz, who you turned your back on after weeks of the season,

throwing the the entire offense under the bus. I did not turn my back on. Did you guys Did you guys uh start the game off by uh standing ovation? Uh, I don't know. I couldn't We We It was There was no volume to that game, but I I was looking sound. I was trying to look for it

and the broadcast didn't show it. Yeah. And I couldn't hear anything. So, I don't So, the answer is no.

I don't know. So, yeah. Probably no. Probably not. Yeah. Whatever happened today worked. It might have been just playing against the Raiders, but it worked.

Yeah. Shout out the Raiders. The Raiders I Shout out you guys. They're They're awesome.

Grank said it afterwards. They're like Neospor. You put it and kill all your cuts and wounds. Yeah, that's that's that's a that's a good quote. That's a good quote.

I could see Grank having like a cough, like a chest cold, and he just like puts some Neospor on his gums.

Yeah. By the way, should we So, the Raiders should we pull up Tankathon because now it's a battle between the Titans, Raiders, and Giants. The two win teams for the first overall pick. Who do we think's going to get the first overall pick? Here are the schedules. Titans play the Chiefs, the Saints, and at the Jaguars. The Raiders play at Giants or sorry at Texans verse Giants verse Chiefs

and then the Giants play the Vikings at Raiders Cowboys. It's basically to come down to the Raiders Giants game.

I think I think the Titans they should they should flex that game. I agree. You think the Titans are going to get

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Would you say they're going to Who has the tiebreaker though? No, I The Titans don't have the tiebreaker right now.

But the Raiders beat the Titans, didn't they? No, I think it goes off of win percentage strength or or strength of schedule.

Oh, it's not. They don't do head-to-head. No. And uh the Giants and Raiders play each other. So, one of those teams is going to be out and the other one is probably going to get the first pick.

Doing doing reverse headto-head would be a very funny way. Like, if it's tied, well, the team that lost that game, you're you're clearly the worst.

Yeah. Yeah. Looking at the Titans schedule, I feel like the Titans are going to

the Chiefs should beat them, I think. Yeah. The Saints Tyler Shuck. I mean, shster.

And the Jaguars might be the best team in football right now. Yeah, they might not be playing for anything. So, that might be your chance for the Titans to win.

That's true. Jaguars could be could be firmly that culture in Jacksonville is so strong. Probably goes too deep.

All right. Congrats, Max. Easy win. Felt good. Everyone should play the Raiders. The Raiders are so bad. They're just an abysmal abysmal team to watch play football.

Memes, did you get to play the Raiders? No. You should you should you should write a letter.

The Bears barely beat the Raiders. Yeah, but that was a great game. That was like that was a game where your offense Yeah. clicked.

Yeah, but it was it was a tough win. Yeah, I mean the Raiders I guess were still fighting a little bit back then. I P Carol's got to retire,

right? I think so. What what what are you do like this is this has to be the most miserable experience. I guess there's there's going to be the possibility of the Raiders getting the number one pick and then he might have like Mendoza to [ __ ] around with

and I actually think that's when you want to fire him, right? But I if you're saying like if he's going to retire, I think he would want to stick around. I don't know if Tom Brady is going to want to stick around.

Yeah, I don't think so. Okay. Commanders 29, Giants 21. Congrats PFT. Oh, also real quick with Raiders, how about how about uh Alex Guerrero now being like the official guy with the Raiders?

Yeah. Yeah, he's been all season. Yeah, he's like Brady's eyes and ears on the inside right now.

Yes, it's going well. Uh, Commanders 29, Giants 21. Yeah, we don't really have to talk about this game that much. It was It was fun to win one.

Yeah, that's that's my take away from you. I told you you're going to win this game.

It was It was fun to win one. Marota looked good. Bill ran the ball really well today. I think I've I've switched to being of the mindset like I ideally I would like to lose the games and get a better draft pick, but I think it's more important to go out and play well. Yeah. and to show that Dan Quinn hasn't actually lost the locker room. And Jaylen Lane, another punt return touchdown for him today. He's awesome.

He's somebody that we can build around. Shout out Ben Sennet, former lowman trophy winner. He looked good today.

And yeah, I thought I thought for the most part it was a pretty balanced game. Uh Jackson Dart, he he's dangerous, but sometimes he does throw his body around. He went to the blue tent again today.

Five out of 10 games. Five out of 10 games. That's a lot of blue tent. He's gone to the tent. He came out. he was not too banged up. So, we got back at the g the game. We got to see one snap of Jamus, which was cool. And uh yeah, the uh the team's still playing hard. So, credit to them. Uh it was it was fun to win one. Good to not continue that losing streak. And if it's a division rival, I feel like there's always value in in beating them twice in a year.

Yeah. And the uh Texans or sorry, the the Giants Abdul Carter looked good for the first time. Like it was kind of his welcome to the NFL. Oh, yeah. That's why you drafted him. That's what that's what we were promised. Y

he was all over the place. I think he had two strip sacks. One they they recovered.

But yeah, the Giants are just they should just try to lose. They should they should try. Although what do I guess trade the first pick? I don't know what to make of Jackson Dart. I'm going to say that right now. I think he's good, but the guy's in the blue tent way too much.

Yeah. I don't know what I don't know what you do with that because part of the reason why he's good is because he makes plays with his feet and he keeps plays alive and he puts himself in precarious situations. I just don't know.

I don't think that you can get a coach that's going to be able to tell him to stop playing like that. He's basically like, "Fuck you. That's how I play. Have you ever watched me play football? Watch me play football in middle school. I'm the exact same guy."

Exact same guy. And he he does feel that way. But he's fun. I like watching him play.

Who's he dating? He's dating some some celebrity, right? Isn't he? I don't know. Zach.

I think like dating rumors. Who Who's he dating rumors? Rumors is the name of the girl.

No, I don't know if there's anything any girl confirmed. Oh, I thought it was like a famous person.

I'm not I don't think I think I don't think anything confirmed. Got it. Just rumors.

Think so. A lot of tweets. Yeah, cuz I just see see the Scatabo uh memes where it's like Jackson Dart is dating this person while Scatabo drinks chocolate milk out of a shoe. They got they got a lot of I think there a lot of Alex Earles rumor rumors out there.

Oh, okay. I think it was fake DMs. I think they were leaking fake DMs. Oh, okay.

They were trying to You should be on that beat. Yeah, you should be head of that beat.

It was all for us. All AI TM Zach, you can be you can be on top of that for us.

I can run that for you. Yeah, love that. Max, I'll see you next week. Yeah. How are you How are you feeling, boys? Are you nervous about the Commanders? Maybe Mariota. I'm so I'm so glad that the Eagles won this game because they're gonna be so happy riding high.

Where's the game? Uh the game is in DC. DC. Yep. Yep. No. Uh Zack, I think you can you can confirm this. The Eagles are going to win by like 40 points next week, right?

I think it's anybody's game. We got to see what happens in this Cowboys game. Is it

Are you a little nervous about this game Max? Cowboys? Oh, yeah. No, no, not the Cowboys.

Depends on what happens in this Cowboys game. If the Cowboys lose, you're not nervous. Then we just got to win one out of the next three.

But still, you don't want to lose to PFT right? You never want to lose. You don't want to lose anyone.

You don't want to lose to anyone. Do you think uh I don't Whoa. Do you think Jaden will be playing?

I have I forgot his name for a second. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, no. I have no idea. I have no idea if he's going to play.

Would Do you want him to play? No, I don't think so. There's no chance that he's 100% healthy.

So, you want Mariota revenge game? Yeah. I mean, Mariota is a more than capable backup quarterback. I think that if Jaden's 100%, yes, I want him to play, but I don't think that he is. I don't think that he's going to be. But every, you know what pissed me off? Every time I see Terry McLaren out on the field catching balls and scoring touchdowns. I just wish that I could have seen more of that this year with Jaden on the field at the same time. They haven't really gotten to play that much together. It's a bummer. Um, but he's Terry McLaren's still very good.

Yeah, he had a touchdown today. It's big. Okay, Texans 40, Cardinals 20. This is another one. Assk kicking. Texans are really good. Their offense looked great today. CJ Stra probably had his one of his best games. I think second best game of the season. Um, he was pretty much perfect. Nico Collins was as efficient as you can be. I think he had four targets, four catches, 85 yards, and two touchdowns.

The game was over immediately. Immediately. Immediately. They were They were up 17 nothing minutes into the game. They kicked the ball off and like the first play of the game it was like, "Okay, Texans are going to stop him."

The Texans are a really good team. They're a dangerous dangerous team, especially if their offense can look like it looked today. Uh because that's really all that that like everyone knows their defense is going to be keep him in every game. If CJ Strad can get comfortable and look like CJ Strad from a couple years ago, that's a dangerous team.

And they got a new running back now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Jar Jordan, uh, Nick Nick Chub got is hurt. Uh, we don't know where Joe Mixon is. And then Woody Marks got hurt again.

I'd like somebody to check on Joe Mixon. I'm I'm concerned now. He's probably hanging out with Brandon Iuk somewhere.

Yeah. Jaw Jordan, I think that this was his first game this year, right? His first touches, he went off for 101 yards.

Well, Woody Marks is awesome, but he he gets banged up every game. He does. Yeah,

he's always in the tent. But everything about the Texans offense looked great today. Everything about the the Cardinals defense looked terrible today.

Cardinals are done that like well they already were done but it feels like Jonathan Ganon is gonna get fired. They got to figure out they're basically I think they're in the third year of a rebuild and now it's resetting to another rebuild.

The rebuilds kind of overlap. Yeah. Trey McBride is awesome. So he back-to-back 100 catch thousand yard seasons

which Travis Kelce never did. He's it's insane what he's done as a uh tight end. He had 12 catches today. He also broke the NFL Travis Kelce streak for consecutive games with five plus receptions for a tight end. 16 straight games.

Yeah, he's awesome. So, that's cool. That's a good thing that the the Cardinals have. Everything else sucks.

The Cardinals have like one or two pieces, right? Michael Wilson's awesome in in the Cardinals wildest dreams. Like what is your perfect off seasonason as a Cardinals fan?

Probably fire Ganon. Yep. Uh figure out a way to trade Kyler Murray. Yep. Uh hope that a quarterback gets to you in the draft.

Yep. Hire Josh McDaniels. Oh, he's going to get another shot. You think so? Yeah. Owners love love a guy that's failed twice.

Spectacularly failed twice. And McDaniel should stay with the Patriots. But you think he's going to get another shot?

I think he might. That would be an interesting You think he'll take it? I don't know. I He shouldn't.

I don't think he would. No, I don't I don't know if he would either cuz he's he's taken two jobs that the I think he'd need a a really good quarterback that he believes in.

Well, maybe it's just that. Okay, if you look at his past, he went to the Raiders. Uh he went to the Broncos under their old ownership.

Y he needs a place that has stability from the top down, the Arizona Cardinals.

Yes. No. Everyone thinks that about the Arizona Cardinals. Now, this would probably be one of the situations where it's like, okay, he he might be interested in a job, just not this one.

Yeah. Yeah. I I I don't know. He he he feels like maybe there's enough self-reflection that I don't understand why guys who are really good coordinators don't just stay really good coordinators. Like, yeah.

How awesome do you think Matt Patricia's year has been? Pretty good. He has made he probably makes over a million dollars and he gets to coach a team that is better than everyone they play and he gets to coach their defense and doesn't have to worry about anything else.

Ask Vic Fangio how cool his life is now, right? There's certain guys that that it's probably so much better. I don't understand why more guys don't say, "Hey, this is awesome. We're going to keep doing this." Okay. Um last game from the early slate, Jaguars 48, Jets 20. memes. I'll get to you in a second. The Jaguars are just good. I don't They So, the Jaguars, I was looking at it. Trevor Lawrence, by the way, had an incredible game. Five touchdowns, 330 yards. He ran in for a six touchdown. He had 50 yards rushing. That's actually never been done. First player in NFL history throw for five touchdowns, rush for a touchdown, and rush for over 50 yards, which I know is like kind of weird parameters, so it would make sense, but still, he was perfect. Travis Etien was awesome. The Jaguars since the byee. So going into the bye-week they were four and three. They scored 19 points a game. Since the by-week they're

six- one. They've scored 32 points a game. Their one loss was that blown lead versus the Texans. Now they've played a softer schedule, but they're throttling teams and they are their offense looks awesome. Liam Con is a great coach and the Jaguars are for real. I don't like they're just killing teams.

Yeah. I I think we might have reached the point where Trevor Lawrence might now finally be underrated.

Yeah, I would agree. When when he got to the league, he was overrated for a long time.

Remember I told you the stat about the Jaguars winning seasons? Yeah, he has they they have five total in the last 20 years and he has three of them.

I think Trevor Lawrence is one of the most underrated, if not the most underrated quarterback in the NFL. As as crazy as that is to say, that's how good his season's been. I think the Jaguars are for real, too. Uh their only losses have been to for the most part really good teams like the Texans. I almost count that as because we don't count comebacks anymore.

Yeah, they got off to a they had a a a big lead against the Houston Texans. A great team. They lost to the Seahawks. They lost to the Rams and then at the start of the season they lost to the Bengals,

which was remember that was the weird game with Travis Hunter, the pass interference.

Yep. That was a really strange game. Uh yeah, I think the Jaguars are for real.

Yeah. Liam Cohen also is uh four wins away from being fifth all time in wins as a Jaguars head coach.

Yep. From passing Gus Bradley, who coached for the Jaguars for 62 games. Liam Cohen's coached him for 14.

Yeah. I I I like a good coach. I I like him. They're fun. Trevor Lawrence is fun. ETN's fun. They're [ __ ] killing people.

They're a great team. Yeah. And they're leading the AFC South now. They have a tough schedule down the stretch. which I think they have to play the Broncos next week and um but they they could they have the inside track right now on the AFC South which would be the Jaguars hosting a playoff game.

I'm jacking off and that pool looks so good today. The the Jacksonville pool. Oh my god, I just want to live in it.

Their uniforms look like the Jaguars are I think the highest variant team in terms of their uniforms looking like a complete joke and them looking like a real franchise depending on how they're playing. Yeah,

like when they're playing poorly, it's like this is this isn't what are these uniforms.

Candy ass. They they turn candy ass. Them and the Dolphins. I think that uh that we had the Brady Cook game today.

Yeah. M Yeah. Memes just And I saw you you wave the white flag. Yeah. I mean, they put out a CFL defense today.

Yeah. I mean, it's not like the Jets gutted their defense. What are you going to do?

Well, they gutted their defense and everybody's hurt on defense, right? We have like practice squad on practice squad guys playing.

It was nice that Brady Cook got that first touchdown. They showed his family. That was cool.

Yeah, that was cool. You just got to end the season. Jets are not good. Yeah, he scored. Yeah, he threw for an NFL touchdown today. That was a special moment for the Cooks.

Are you work Are you looking for Tankathon? Where are you guys going to end up?

So, we're at five. There's a path to the one. There is a path to the one if you lose out. Yeah,

we're going to lose out. Who do you have left? Saints next week. Important game.

Tyler Shock. Then it's Patriots. Bills. Yeah. Would you trade Okay, that's a lose out.

How many How many spots of draft position would you trade to beat the Patriots?

We can't We just can't beat the Patriots. I don't I This team This team is I don't think so.

Dog [ __ ] We can't beat Dick. Whoa. Can't beat Dick. Can't beat Dick. Aaron Glenn said very disappointed on a number of different levels. Lot of disappointment.

Lot of levels. Lot of levels. A lot of disappointment. Makes sense. Special teams look good.

Yeah, special teams always looks good. I I almost would make him the head coach, but this is one of those losses where I was like, I don't care if like the entire coaching staff gets fired.

Wait, he just got I know, but I'm just saying like that's how down on this team I am. Like I I just don't think it matters.

But I I also think that Aaron Glenn like you can't you can't judge him when you trade your best two defensive players.

Correct. I mean that's not You can judge a defensive coordinator though. Yes, he did. They just backto-back weeks. You play two good teams for the first time in forever. You got to have them at least prepared to play.

Yeah. I just think that like trading, you know, Quinn Williams and and S Gardner and then saying, "Wow, we're getting our ass kicked." No duh. It's a big no duh moment.

Yeah, but you were already getting your ass kicked. Yeah, but it's the end of the season. It's just it's, you know, you're getting your ass kicked. It's no duh.

Yeah. I wish the season ended after the Falcons game. Do you get any joy at all of watching these Jets?

No, the AD Mitchell I get I get joy out of watching AD Mitchell play, but that's about it.

Do you get any joy just at all during during the game? Or I guess a better way to ask it like do you feel pain during the game or you just completely numb?

No, it's just not just don't care. That's a good place to be. Yeah, the stranger.

Yeah, you can't you can't get hurt. You can't beat Dick. Can't beat Dick. Can't be dick.

But I want to care, right? You just can't. You can't. You can't care. You just can't.

Uh, do you have just like a daydream of what your perfect off seasonason looks like

every night? What does it look like now? Maybe Fernando Mendoza is a guy. Oh, I think he might be.

No, but you can't trade up because you need all the picks. You have so many picks, though. We have so many picks, but you can't trade up.

Yeah, you're right. You can't. There's so many holes. Yeah. Yeah, we have all the holes.

You have all the holes and you can't beat Dick. No, you got no dick and you have all the holes. What a terrible place to be.

Yeah, there's just holes everywhere and no dick in sight. They beat this Jaguars team last year, like a year ago today, by a couple touchdowns and then today you lost by four touchdowns.

Yeah. Yeah. Complete regression. So many holes. No dick. No dick. No quarterback.

My kingdom for a dick. This is a really good Jets recap. All the holes. No. No dick. It just is what it is. Okay. Uh let's get to the afternoon games. Before we do that, PF, you have two more ads you want to hit.

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That's betterhp.com/pmt. Okay, to the afternoon Rams 41, Lions 34 points, points, points. This was Lions. It felt like emptying the clip in the first half and the Rams figuring it out in the second half and then shutting them down defensively. The Rams defense showed up in the second half. the third quarter, Rams had 179 yards to the Lions 5 yards and it was clear that they were like, "Hey, we're not going to let Jamir Gibbs beat us." Which they didn't. Aman Ra went off. But the Rams are a scary scary team because there was multiple times during this game, and I said this on Friday, there is no, you know, it's the old Dan Marino, there's no defense for a perfect pass. What Stafford and Puka have going on right now, it just there's nothing you can do. Like there's you could play perfect defense and Matthew Stafford will still get the ball to Puka Naku and Niku will make the catch.

Yeah, Niku is he's playing mad now, too. He's running extremely angry when he has the ball. Uh I I thought that the Rams looked like the Rams have all season. Matt Stafford had one play that he probably wishes he could take back. Yep.

That pick to Aiden Hutchinson. Yeah. Which was an incredible play by Hutchinson and then he got he got chased down try to get to the end zone. Ran out of gas a little bit there. Uh, but overall I thought that Matt Stafford played like, you know, the perfect Matt Stafford game that he's capable of. And besides like that one game against the Panthers this year, that's kind of what he's done all season long.

And yeah, the Rams the Rams are probably the best team in the NFC. I would say I would agree.

I would I would put them as my number one. I've been going back and forth between them and the Seahawks.

Seahawks, too. The Seahawks have looked not great offensively. They're the class of the NFC.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we're going to find out on Thursday night when they play each other, which I kind of wish this game was not a Thursday night game because it's the two best teams right now record-wise in the NFC and you get short rest and it's stupid and it's late in the season.

Give us this on Sunday or Monday. But yeah, the the Rams I the scariest part about the Rams is you have the Stafford part where he's been there, done that, and like I said, he's playing with like Puka Nakua. They're they're they're they're on a different level in terms of a wide receiver quarterback like in lock step with each other.

They can run the ball. Kron Williams had I think two touchdowns in this game. Blake Corm was running the ball. They have two backs that can run the ball and their defense can turn it on. Like this game was the the Lions were winning this game at halftime. They were up a touchdown. And

well, the Rams also they had a they had a great drive to end the first half to get a field goal. Field goal. Yes. which was massive for

but but it was they were winning this game at h at halftime lions and then they come out in the second half and the Rams defense forced three consecutive threeand outs and that was it like that that's that's what they can do to a team. So they it does feel like they're the most complete team

actually probably in the NFL. Well, I mean, the Broncos looked incredible today, which we'll talk about, but they they look like the most complete team in the NFL, and you have the coach quarterback combo that have been there, done that that you feel pretty confident going into the playoffs.

I agree with that. I don't think that the Lions are bad at all. I think the Lions are a very good team, and I think that with the Rams defense, they are a very good unit, and you're not going to stop the Lions from scoring points. No, the Lions are going to get theirs, but they stopped them enough. Yeah. And I think the the Lions beat almost any other team in the NFL if they play like they did today.

So the Lions don't they did control their own destiny going into this game. They no longer control their own destiny. But if they win out they should be in. You don't know.

Yeah. So they get the Steelers, they get at the Vikings and then at the Bears. Yeah. So, if they if they win out, it might be the Bears at the Bears expense because the Bears would probably have to if the Bears win two of their last three but lose the Lions, they'll be okay because the Lions can't get to 12 wins. But

that last game that's going that's a playoff game. Yeah. Well, what happened today is uh the bare minimum for the Bears is that they will be playing in week 18. It like be like if they lose their next two games and the Lions win their next two games, week 18 will be a win and get in.

Yep. So, the Bears can't be like eliminated before week 18. Yeah. Uh, again, I think the Lions are they might end up being whoever doesn't make the playoffs in the NFC is going to be a really good team.

I was going to say that guarantees a playoff game because then week 18 is week 18.

And hopefully it doesn't get to that because I would like the Bears to take care of business before that.

Home playoff game though. They have they have the chance to take care of business before that. But yeah, that that's that's what happened today.

Home playoff game would be huge for Chicago. Yeah. week 18 and that's the bare minimum. If if the Bears win the next two games, then that won't be the case for week 18. But yeah, the Lions are up against it. They have to win it. They have they have to win their next two games to have that opportunity.

Yeah, I I think whoever ends up being on the outside, the number eight team in in the NFC is going to be a very good team.

Yeah, it's crazy looking at the NFC. It's going to be either the the Lions, the Packers, the NerS.

I mean, the N the NerS are well the NerS could be the one seed. Yeah. If the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday night, the the the I I'm pretty sure the Niners control their own destiny for the one seat.

Coach of the year, Kyle Shanahan. I think so. That's probably not a bad bet. I think it's got to be Liam Con, Vel, or Ben Johnson.

But if if the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday Night Football Yeah. And then the Ners win out and they get the one seed overall. After everything the Niners have been through, I feel like Kyle Shanahan would be

But you know how the coach of the year works. I do. It's It's a team that wasn't supposed to be good that has a newer coach.

But counterpoint for Kyle Shanahan, he's never won coach of the year. He hasn't.

No, that's a big narrative, too. Okay. That that would be if they finished with a one scene, I feel like they'd have to give it to him.

Yeah. I just think they always give it to the team that just completely over performs expectations and is a newer like the last uh let's let's go back. So Kevin Okonnell won it last year. That was a 14- win team, newer coach. Kevin Stfansky won it because the Browns won 11 games.

Brian Dable won it nine and seven. That was another one where new coach team that wasn't expected. Vel won it 2021 with the Titans.

Number one seed. number one seed Stfansky with the Browns in 2020. Another one of those situations. Harbaugh's the last guy who's like was established for a very long time. He won it in 2019 when they were 14 and two. The year before that Matt Nai similar situation first year overperforms McVey the year before that first year overperforms. So I think it's it's going to be a team. It's going to be a coach that that is newer and overperforms. What are the odds on DraftKings?

You're probably right. I think it's got to be Kyle's probably down there. He's probably like 18 to1. It's not It's not

It's not up. Yeah, but it's got to be some combination of Rabel, Liam Conn, Ben Johnson. Who am I forgetting? Mike, maybe Mike McDonald depending on

Yeah. I mean, you could also make the argument that this is maybe Kyle Shan's best season as a coach.

They have. Yeah. Yeah. They've the N we have the Niners game last, but they Yeah. They're they're very much alive for the one seed. So, the Rams though, the Rams control their own destiny for the one seed. If they win on Thursday, they're pretty much cruising to it because I think their last two games are the Falcons and the Cardinals, I believe. Yep.

So, they win on Thursday and it'll be very hard for them not to get the one t-shirt and hat on Thursday.

T-shirt is that is it? No, it can't be because the Niners Oh, maybe. No. No. Yeah, you might be right. You might be right. You might be right. If they win if they win Thursday. No, that can't be right because if the Niners win out and the Rams lose out, the Niners would have

they would have two wins over the Rams. Yeah, but it doesn't The Niners would have a better record overall.

The if the Rams beat the Seahawks, they'd be 12 and four, right? Right. And what are the Niners at right now?

Oh, no. No, they're 12 and three. They would be 12 and three. The Niners are have four losses.

Niners have four losses. Yeah. So, if they if the So, they could get to third. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. if the Rams lost their last two games. So close to t-shirt and hot hat game.

Close. It would be driver seat. Y and same goes with the Seahawks, which we can talk about. Seahawks 18, Colt 16. Not a exactly an inspiring game from the Seahawks, but they got it done. I loved watching this game. We got Phil Rivers down a score late in the game.

We had it twice. twice in I've been gambling a a long time for over 20 plus years. Uh I think lading Phil Rivers to 280 yards might have been the worst bet I've ever made in my life.

It made every throw exciting though. It made every I got swept up in the moment. I was so excited to see our guy Phil back out there. He was out there. He ran the offense decently well. His mind is obviously still there. He was making checks. He was He was making the right reads. The arm is not the best.

I mean, the way we're talking about him does sound like a grandfather. Listen, the ducks. He was throwing ducks every He was throwing like five yard outd.

He's still very sharp, you know, mentally. He's He's all there. He still gets it. He

still has his driver's license. He's very alert. Yeah. Like I call him and he knows what day it is.

He gets around great these things. Yeah, he remembers he remembers all of his grandkids birthdays. All these things are still happening.

His his rib protector or whatever he was wearing today didn't do him any favors like the Michelin.

It did give him the dadbod body. Uh but I I cherished every second of Philip Rivers. I cherished every of the 120 yards that he threw for. I loved it. I loved seeing him out there when he got excited after throwing that touchdown pass. That was that was very cool.

He did the kick. Pat did kick. Did the kick. They flash to uh to the the pizzeria where he coaches like in that small town

and all the kids were watching their coach play football. That's a cool moment. I I loved watch Philip Rivers played good enough to win this game.

We found out before that he took uh some cleats from a trophy case. Yep. So that's that's what he's wearing. Yeah. He he he played good enough. He did everything you would expect a 44 year old Philip Rivers who had not played a football game in 1800 days. 1,800 days. Beautiful number by the way. Like that's a the fact they showed that and it was on the dot 1,800 days. That's pretty cool.

He had that one play where he just fell down in the pocket because he got scared and then got up and started running again. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh listen, I I I hope that we get Philip Rivers for the last three games of the season. I hope he finishes healthy.

Hope he starts next year. I I think he's probably going to be limited to to throwing within like 30 yards downfield.

Let's get him indoors. Listen, let's get him indoors. Let's see what he does indoors. You know, it's it's hard being outside when you're older.

Josh DS had that one that would have been he would have been a legend for catching it. It felt like the longest pass in the world that Philip Rivers threw. It was probably like

25 yards downfield. It felt It might It might as well have been a Hail Mary, though.

Josh Towns, he just didn't get his head around on it. The throws he was making where it was like a check down to the far side sideline and he had to put everything into it.

Everything. Everything. He put his He put his whole ass into every throw. Everything

for the first pass of the game. I I was not expecting much after that first pass.

No, that was immediately I I think I said out loud in the gambling cave, I've made a huge huge mistake. And uh I think they could have played for another six quarters and I probably wouldn't have gotten it.

But he figured it out. Again, he's not the reason why they lost that game. No, they lost because listen, Sam Darnold, the the Seattle offense was bad. They were two for 13 on third down, which is 15.4%. That was the lowest percentage on third down for a winning team this year. So, they were bad, but they did just enough. JSN was awesome in the second half. Ended up with 113 yards. Sam Darnold did have some very nice field goal drives, like big moments.

But, yeah, I I don't know I don't know what to think of the Seahawks offense because their defense obviously is very, very good. I don't know what to think of their offense.

Yeah. So, as a couple G I guess they had a good second half last week against the Falcons, but that was also a kick return.

As a longtime Sam Darnold defender, Sam Darnold apologist, uh I I've started to develop some cracks the last couple weeks.

So, you're you're you're getting a little scared for we're in we're in December and December is not a good thing. It's the opposite of Toyota thon.

He doesn't look great. I would be worried if I was a Seahawks fan about the playoffs. I think that the the Seahawks are still a very good team. Their defense is incredible. Jason Myers, obviously a great great kicker, won the game for you today. Uh I would be I would be worried about Sam's limitations against good teams in the playoffs.

Yeah, they Thursday night's going to just be a massive massive game because that's that's the game that if they can get homefield advantage, it's like all right, now you feel a little more comfortable. They only got to win if they get the one seed, you only got to win two games and they're both in Seattle. I [ __ ] loved watching Philip Rivers today, though.

It was so much fun. It made me It made me feel like maybe I'm not 40. Yeah, Philip Rivers is still out there playing football, man.

It it I felt young again. He said he said afterward, "Hopefully my sons and those ball players that I'm in charge of at the school, they'll say, "Crap, coach wasn't scared."

Yeah. Can you actually play the Philip Rivers quote that it was great? I [ __ ] love him.

Yeah. And it just felt like you you you you felt like we had lost when when Phil Rivers retired. We talked about it on the show how we were losing like a joy of our NFL Sundays and to get it back. It's it's almost like we watched um like you know the Rolling Stones or or when I go see Dead Company at Sphere you're like it's not the same but it's cool cuz it kind of it's it's in like principle it kind of is. You're kind of watching the same thing. You know, it's not the same.

I saw Sublime with Rome. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool. All right. Yeah, play it.

I think maybe uh you know, maybe maybe it will I don't know, inspire or or teach, you know, to not to run or be scared of what may or may not happen, you know. Um hopefully, you know, certainly I think of my sons and those ball players, you know, that I'm in in charge of at the school, uh that they'll say like, "Crap, coach wasn't scared." You know what I mean? It's like shoot. Sometimes you uh there is doubt and it's real and um you uh again you can you can the the the guaranteed safe bet is to is to go home or or to not go for it and the other one is shoot let's see what happens uh you know and so uh yeah I I hope that in in that sense that it can it can be a positive to to some young boys you know or young people don't have to be boys but I think maybe

I love it he's right he is 100% right take a risk I love it Phil take the pump. Phil Rivers.

I love it. Uh I'm I feel bad for the Colts. They started 7-1. Then they went savage.

Then they went savage and then they apologized for going savage and now they're eight and six. They need to go two and one against the Niners, the Jaguars, and at the Texans.

So no, it doesn't look great for the Colts. No, it doesn't. Credit to Hank. He said it before.

Everything looks so good. Credit to you, Hank. Thank you. I don't know what they're going to do. I was very close to to having to stop swear for the rest of football season. Yeah, very close.

And coming in a cup. Well, that's only if I accidentally swore, which you would have.

Which I would have. I would have 100%. Would that have been like even if I cussed off the podcast?

Nothing would have been on the podcast. But all it would have had to do is Hank saying one thing is you say, "Shut the [ __ ] up, Hank."

That's true. You could have baited me into baiting. Yeah. It would have happened so fast.

Yeah. The old double bait. Yeah. Uh, it was fun. I hope we get to see it for three more weeks. I hope that Philip Rivers stays healthy. Uh, I I thought that the Colts defense played awesome today.

Yeah, they played really well. Six field goals right? Yep. From uh from Meyers.

Yeah, he was he was sick. Also, I apologize to Blake Groupy. I put some uh negative things on his name. He hit a 60 yarder, which that was a little maybe if you if you want to nitpick the Colts, I've never seen a team more play more for a field goal than they did with like

Yeah. a minute and a half left. It was a 60. They're like, "Yeah, we're good enough. We're we're it's good. We're not even going to try to get this first down." And then when when Phil got the ball back at the end of the game, I think memes was in here watching it with me and I was like, Memes, Philip Rivers interception minus 500 right now because they had to try to throw the ball downfield. They had like what, like 20 seconds left in the game. They had to try to get downfield. Philip, he he put his whole ass into that last throw

pretty easily picked up. I'm not counting that as an interception against Phil River's name. Not I'm not going to do it.

Nope. It was great. It was nostalgic. It was fun. We We love our grandpa and they get to play Monday Night Football.

I love that. Monday Night Football in Indianapolis, Phil Rivers. Why not? Why not? Why not?

Why not? Let him play. Don't bring in Riley Leonard. There was someone who pointed out, which I I have to agree with. They were like, "This is the state of our quarterbacks and what the college game is producing that a 44year-old Phil Rivers is better than anything else." Yeah, about that. It's fair. I I love watching Philip Rivers. I hope he plays again. I'm not complaining about Philip Rivers. I think there have to be one or two quarterbacks out there that don't have jobs that are like, "What's going on right now?"

Yeah. But it's also because he knows Shane Styens's offense and he's running it in high school. He does.

Oh man, so much fun. God damn it. I love him. He looked so big in that jacket. That defense is a mess out there, y'all.

You look so [ __ ] funny. Y'all sorry. Y'all sorry. The kick. Beat the crud out of you. Doing the kick, screaming at everyone, throwing a touchdown, lading it to the moon, never having a shot that Yeah. See the kick. Oh, man. I [ __ ] love him. Oh, it's just so many Sundays.

You know what it was that we got to see this guy do this. It's It's seeing seeing that motion, that arm motion from the quarterback makes me feel things. Yeah,

it slipped one in today. I I can't remember what it was like in the first half. He slipped one in that was so perfectly Phil Rivers that was like a three yard pass. It was h Yeah. [ __ ]

That's what Phil does. Always. Always slips it in. I hope his son I hope his son is awesome or one of them. All of them.

Gunner. Gunner Rivers. Gunner Rivers is the best college quarterback. Texas quarterback.

He needs to be Texas Tech quarterback. Yeah. Okay. Next up, Broncos 34, Packers 26. The big news out of this game obviously is Michael Parson's fear dev and ACL tear. Christian Watson also hurt. Bad day, bad third quarter for the Packers. That was about as demoralizing as the Packers could get in one quarter and it all like they were kind of handling the Broncos and uh they were up 24-13 and that deep shot to Christian Watson that Patrick Certan picks off cuz he's nasty. He gets hurt and then non-c contact injury for Michael Parsons. The Packers are in some deep trouble, especially because that's their all-in player. Like that's their all-in player and he might have torn his ACL.

Yeah, that's a bummer for them. I know that it breaks you up too, Big Cat, because

I wish I could turn injuries off because you want to beat the Packers at full strength, right?

I Yeah. Yeah. If I if I could uh say that this game doesn't count, I would. But unfortunately, the game counts.

Uh credit to Bon Knicks. Bon Knicks had his perfect game today. He was so good.

302 yards, four touchdowns, no picks, didn't get sacked a single time today, dude. He was evading everything and and he's so good at evading and keeping his eyes downfield and hitting guys downfield. And that fourth down throw, which wasn't the game winner because I don't know what happened at the end of the game where the Packers just kept on getting the ball back. It was like it just kept on happening. We was like, "Oh, the game's over. Oh, no, it's not." That fourth down throw on the sideline to Courtland Sutton was so sick. It was it was that was a big boy throw.

What happened was somehow the Packers they threw a pick with uh I believe how much time was left in this game. Uh 638 left and then the Broncos went three and out. Then the uh Oh no, they they turn it over on downs. Then the Packers turned over on downs. Then the Broncos turned it over on downs. Then the Packers turned it over on downs. Then it was the end of the game.

So it was like punters were not on the field. They were just everybody was going for it. It was a great football game and it started off with like a fight before the game too which you knew that these teams were going to go out there and like [ __ ] each other up for a little bit. It was a great football game and and this was this is the signature Bon Knicks win.

If this Bick shows up in the playoffs, then everybody's in trouble. Danger. Everybody's they they're going to beat everybody in the NFL if they get games out of Bon Knicks like this. And this is they're now standing alone at the one seed. Hank, are you nervous about the Broncos? Because the playing at mile high is just different.

Yeah. If they have the one seed, I would be nervous. They looked good today. They did.

And Boon Knicks picked it up big time. He was He was phenomenal. They're a good team.

Very good team. Um I think I think they're the best team in football with good bow.

Yeah. with G the way Bo Bon Knicks is playing right now. Heisman. Yeah, Heisman.

Yeah, this is the year dark. This is the year for him. He's focused. He's determined. The Packers are in trouble. It feels like there was a Was I clicking on some of Packers Twitter and seeing the meltdown and and seeing the hyperbole of this is sets them back five years, which I do not believe. It's it's a pretty significant injury because you again, you're all in. You don't have a draft pick next year.

Yeah. Um, was I clicking on that? Yeah, maybe I was. Was I Did I see that one guy, that one Packer fan who had posted a laughing emoji when Roma Dunay was ruled out at 11:30 this morning and then had that happen? Yeah, I did. But I wish I could turn injuries off. That's what I'll say. I do.

That's very big of I I mean, injuries suck. I'm not I'm actually obviously I'm I'm I'm I I did click on a lot of Packers Twitter and and just check in on on my friends. Um was enjoying some reading. But my honest the the honest truth is like injuries suck and injuries can happen to any team and I'm not like oh yes, Michael Parsons is hurt.

Yeah. Like that's the the you're you're going to get your your own team's going to get injuries eventually and it will suck and it will be demoralizing. So yeah, the whole thing is is shitty.

He's just the one guy that that you really didn't want. I don't I don't think they're set back five years, but I do think that this is like the one guy besides probably Jordan Love that if he got hurt, you could be like, "Well, there goes next year."

Well, they looked like a true Super Bowl contending team and Michael Parsons is the biggest part of their defense and Christian Watson is what made their offense look so explosive when he came back from his. He gets injured a lot. That sucks for him. He just, you know, obviously got back from the ACL. Jordan Love looked good in the first half. He was making the Jordan Love throws. That throw to Josh Jacobs for the touchdown was insane.

But yeah, the this definitely changes the it shakes up the NFC. I think maybe my favorite offensive lineman to watch is Quinn Miners.

Yeah. For the Broncos, he just a [ __ ] bully. Just pushing people over. He's a joy to watch on the off when he plays physical. That running game is great. Shawn Payeyton is calling like almost perfect games right now. Uh it's just all about if you get the good bow or the bad bow.

Yeah, the good bow's good Bo's been here for a little bit. He's been around and the and the Broncos are like my big my big thing with the Broncos was that they were toying with a lot of bad teams, but the last couple of weeks they're starting to put together those complete games and rounding into form and kind of peing at the right time.

Yeah. Do you feel feel bad about Michael Parson's uh Max? Yeah, I like I I don't mind Michael Parsons anymore. He's not on the Cowboys.

Yeah. Was if he was on the Cowboys, would you be cheering for his injury? No, I wouldn't be cheering.

We don't cheer for the way you asked me that, I thought it it implied that I that I dislike Michael Parsons.

No. Would you if Michael Parsons got hurt while he was on the Cowboys, would you click on some of Cowboys Twitter and just read some of the tweets?

Oh, yeah. I'm I'm Yeah, you just got to you got to I My job is to to learn what's going on in the league.

Looking at I'm I'm having a good time looking at Cowboys Twitter right now. Yeah.

Cowboy Twitter's been talking some [ __ ] [ __ ] Pretty good. There's a lot of there goes the season.

Yeah. Season's over. No, for for Packers Twitter in last week after they beat the Bears, there was a lot of the Bears there goes the Bears season. So, it changes fast. It's week to week league.

And Max, congratulations. I think I already congratulated on you uh a couple weeks ago. The Philadelphia Eagles will win the NFC East. The first repeat winner of the NFC East since 2005.

Still got to win a football game. 2006. Still got to win a football. We got a hat and t-shirt game in DC next week, right? Next Saturday.

Next Saturday will be a hat and t-shirt game. It's going to be the worst day of my sports life.

You You can't You might shock the world. It's going to be the worst. I'm I'm being set up for It's better for you to lose a bad day. It's better for you to lose.

Why? He's talking about JMU as well though. No, I'm not talking about talking about JM.

No, but I'm saying like back to back. Talking about JMU. It's bad bad lineup for me. Bad lineup.

But if it could be the best day. [ __ ] it. Let's go. Let's just go beat. Just worry about JMU.

Let's go beat Oregon. You worry about Villanova. Villanova. Yeah, Villanova is a big football game next week.

PFT. There is that over there's going to be some overlap. What game when the Commanders and the Eagles are on and JMU? Yeah. Which game is going to do you want have sound? JMU.

Uh, at what point in the JMU game is this going to be? It's be right at the beginning because I assume the Bears Packers when the Bears Packers starts 50 minutes after JMU. So, we'll probably go to Bears Packers.

The Eagles are going to be up 36 to 17. So, I I want the Commanders sound off and then hopefully JMU gets off to like a seven nothing lead before everything goes to [ __ ]

Okay. And then I can have a moment where I'm like, we're actually going to do this. Yeah.

And then that's when the Bears come on and I'm going to bet a lot of money on the Bears game.

To try to win back some of my joy that I lost in the first two games. Okay, that's fair.

That's my That's my game plan for Mega Day on Mega Day is going to be great. We've been calling it and then Villanova versus Illinois State.

Oh, yeah. Who can forget? Don't FC FCS matters. These two teams don't like each other.

Mega Day, we've been talking about Mega Day and I pointed out that Mega Day, which we will be streaming all day Saturday, is significantly less games than our usual every single Sunday.

But it's mega in terms of the importance of these games to our personal happiness and mental health.

Yes, it is mega. Absolutely mega. Bon, man, that Yeah, that fourth quarter throw, man. He's He's good.

He's good. He's good. and he the way he evades and just he always he's really fundamentally he just like keeps his shoulders perfect placement and you know like when he's when he's running around in the backfield then he just he squares up and and throws a dart somewhere downfield and they got good players like they got good pass catchers weapons.

I liked his line after the game when they were asking about being underdogs. He's like we're overdogs.

Okay, we're they're overdogs. They don't listen to the underdog narrative. Okay, so they're overdos. So, they're making themselves overdogs.

Got it. Which is some coaches are like, "Hey, I like to be an underdog." Because then you've got You don't want that rat poison.

We're the overdos. Bo Nicks is chopping up the lines of rat poison, cutting them with boca, snorting them. Yeah, I'm the [ __ ] Boverd dog. Get used to it.

Do we have an update on Christian Watson? Cuz he went to the hospital, which that is scary. I think I I feel like he I don't I'm not a doctor, but it felt like he might have uh broken his collar bone, but they said chest, so I don't know.

That's not good. No. So, he went to the hospital. Hopefully, he's okay. He is a big I mean, Matthew Golden's going to step up, but that's a different player, too. Um Oh, did you guys see the halftime show of the year?

No. Mutton Busting. Oh, I love Mutton Busting. So, we had a a sheep being um coralled by a dog, a sheep dog, and then a kid on a sheep fall flat on his face. This is all halftime of the Broncos game. It's awesome.

I heard that there was a sheep that got away too. Yeah, this is the sheep that got away. And and they're chasing it, but then they brought the they're like, "Wait, we have a dog for this. We have a we have a cattle dog." And the cattle dog comes and he just starts [ __ ] whipping them up,

taking care of business. This is all going halftime of an NFL game, dude. That dog's got excellent pursuit.

Yeah, look at the angles. Dogs going crazy. Dogs getting the sheep back into its spot. And then look at the bottom part of this. There's a kid who comes um I guess he's riding a sheep and he just falls flat on his face.

Oh, that's it. All it was a lot of action for a halftime show of an NFL game. Yeah, the sheep jumping, hurdling.

If I were shout out Broncos, mutton busting rocks. If I were to change one thing about mutton busting, I would do the one that has the uh the monkey dressed up in the cowboy outfit that's riding on the back of the sheep dog. Yeah,

that takes it to to the best level possible. I agree with you. That's my favorite sporting event.

I am all in on this sheep dog. Oh, dude, the dog is awesome. Beast. Yeah, he knew exactly what he was.

He even slipped a little bit at first and that that didn't knock him off track at all.

And he and then he just And then as soon as he does his job, he's just like lay down. Good boy.

Yeah, good boy. That dog, that dog pays attention to details. That's a slot receiver. That's Austin Collie.

People People definitely And then people get those dogs and they're like, "Why does my dog have so much energy?" That's what that dog should be doing.

Yeah. Every dog, if you own an Australian Shepherd, a blue healer, a Border Collie, you should be just releasing them onto an NFL field at halftime.

Yeah. Uh, okay. Broncos one seed. They are. So next week they have a big game against the Jags who and then the Chiefs obviously with Gardenner Mshu

and Chargers. Chargers could be both teams could be set in the playoffs in their spot. Could be a meaningless game. Although the Broncos could be playing for the one seed still. Do the Broncos have the tiebreaker against the Patriots. Is that right?

I believe they do. Right. They do. Okay. So So the road right now goes through Denver.

The road goes through Denver unless they slip up. the road goes through. Tough tough place to play. Yeah, that's a that's a really good complete football team.

I The Broncos being good again is it's it's fun. I there's something about games at Denver that just feel different and just they're fun to watch,

especially if they have if they're wearing the throwback uniforms, too. Yeah. Back-to-back playoffs. I think it's the first time I mean they're they're going to win the AFC West for the first time in a long since what 2015 probably.

Yeah, Payton. That's got to be it. And so right now it would be the Texans or no 2014

it would be the Texans at the Patriots. It would be the Bills at the Jaguars. What was that facing?

That' be a tough game. They're all tough games. Playoffs games. Playoffs. Playoffs are are tough games. What would the NFC be right now?

NFC would be Packers at Bears right now. Okay. No, 49ers. Bears 49ers. What? Oh, no. You're right. You're right. You're right. Packers. It would be Packers at Bears. There's be 49ers at

Eagles. O Brock party revenge. Little throwback. That'll be a good game. That'll be a good football game.

Are you scared of the 49ers? I respect everyone. Yeah, that's a good answer. I respect the [ __ ] out of everyone.

I respect the Commanders. Yeah. Uh, you shouldn't. I don't know. Well, let's talk about them. I don't I don't know if I respect the Panthers if they're favorites. Saints 20, Panthers 17. Panthers as favorites yet again do not win or cover. They're 0 and2 in their last 12 games as favorites. They haven't won or covered as a favorite since 2022. Stop making them favorites.

You're doing them a disservice. They got shucked. Tyler shuck, dude. Something about them. I'm telling you, the Saints, like the Saints were in the running this season for being worst team. They were most lost team. They were the team that like, oh, they have no future. Tyler Shock might be the might might be the real deal. And their defense is balling out. Kell Moore seems like a good coach. Like they the Saints should get in the playoffs. They beat the Bucks in the in the Panthers in backto-back tweaks. That's one and two.

They beat the Panthers twice now. I know. They should get They should win the NFC South. They should get the NFC South.

Yeah. If you go if you go perfect in your division, you should win that division.

They lost to the Bucks earlier. I But if you know what I'm saying, everything post Shuck should count. Shuck should be a playoff quarterback this year.

Agreed. Agreed. Chuck now he he passed Spencer Rattler. He is now the uh the Saints rookie record holder for uh for quarterbacks in terms of yards. And uh Charlie Smith, their place kicker, after the game, he won the game for him. Demario Davis came up to the interview and goes, "They should make a movie about this guy." And I I looked into Charlie Smith's career, okay? Where he came from. I agree with Deario Davis. Okay. You probably should. So Deario Davis first kicked in American football

on August 22nd, 2023. That's crazy. Yeah. Like two and a half years ago. So he's he's from Ireland. He was a Gaelic football player. He was a goalender. And he would just go out and like kick the Gaelic football over the uprights. And he would do that for fun. He'd watch NFL. He'd watch Red Zone. He'd be like, "I'd like to do this one day." He sent an email to inquiries@nfl.com back in 2019. I don't think anybody responds to that email address. Yeah.

But he was just like, "Hey, how do I become an NFL place kicker? Cuz I think I'd be good at it." Y

didn't hear back from anybody. He finally got into the international program or whatever back in 2023 and then he first kicked on August 22nd, 2023. Then he gets in against the Dolphins, hits a 56 yard, recovers his own onside kick, and then he kicks a gamewinner.

This guy rocks. This guy rocks. Charlie Smith is a [ __ ] legend. That's awesome.

And uh I can't help but think maybe some of some of Tyler Shucks rubbing off on him,

dude. Is Tyler Shucks winning? He's He's really fun to watch. He's He's He's starting to look like the guy. Chase Young said that. Starting to look like the guy.

He's whipping that armor out. He has the most wins in this quarterback class. I know. Yeah, he started 6 weeks ago.

His three career wins. There's something about Chuck there, dude. He throws a catchable ball. He makes plays. He gets better as the game goes on. He had the game-winning drive like two Well, two of them. They're down They're down 17-10. Takes him down the field touchdown and then gets the ball back. Perfectly perfectly baited them into that flag, too.

Oh, on the slide. Yeah. Yeah, on the slide with 12 seconds left. the Shuckster, man. Saints are like, if you're a Saints fan, you have something to look forward to.

You know what he is? Shuck's twitchy. Yeah, he's got those fast feet, fast hips.

I maintain if if people knew how to pronounce his name, I think he'd be a bigger deal.

I really do. Yeah, it's just the fact that his name doesn't make any sense still.

I feel like when we had Mel Kyper on last year before the draft, he was saying that Tyler Shuck was going to be like a really

uh or not, Tom McShay. Yeah, I I remember that specifically. I was like, "All right, Tyler Shook."

I think Tyler Shook might have been the guy that made Mil Kyper cry. Yeah, it might have been when Shuck got drafted. Milk, what are we doing? Yeah. Um, Zack, your team got a nice bounce from this. They went, the Bucks went from 53% to 76% with this loss. If they win next week, they have a 95% of ma chance of making the playoffs. They just they just keep looking into these things. I think if the regular season was 25 games long, I think the Saints win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I'd agree. Yeah, that did feel like that did feel like a early Christmas gift. It was like, here you go.

Yeah. Well, hey, punch this one up. Let's get you guys to the playoffs. It's the Stephen Shay effect. You could count the Bucks out a million times and then things will just keep happening that put the Bucks in a better position. They're going to win the NFC South and he's going to say dominance continues.

Did it feel dirty rooting for the Saints? it. Yes. You got to root for I did it wholeheartedly. Yes.

Yeah. I shouldn't have, but I did because we're we're trying to get in, boys. Yeah. Trying to get in. Okay. Last game, Titans or sorry, we'll do Sunday Night Football real quick, but uh 49ers 37, Titans 24. The 49ers are better than the Titans. They That's it.

Yeah, George KD looked awesome today. George KD looked awesome. He had a really good quote, too, about Brock Party after the game. He said he's that Jesus Christ lizard running on water. No ball security. Fake pitching at the end of a 40-yard run. Absolutely just diabolical by behavior by our QB1. I love it.

Mhm. Jesus Christ lizard. The Jesus Christ lizard. I think there is a Jesus lizard. It's the one that does sprint across the water.

Yeah, that's that's what he is. That's what Brock Party is. The 49ers look really good. the Titans. I think there's enough that you can watch from the Titans if you're a Titans fan where you're like, "Well, we didn't get our ass kicked that bad today. Cam Ward had a couple nice throws." By the way, thank you to Kyle Shanahan for kicking that field goal at the end of the game.

Yes, good stuff, Kyle. We appreciate it. That's why you are my coach of the year

this year. That was a massive field goal. But yeah, the 49ers, they are they're a legitimately really good team. Yeah, and we did have a weird story with Brandon Iayuk being put on the reserve list uh le reserveleft squad list and they asked Kyle Shanahan about it afterwards. He said, "We haven't seen him in forever. That's the decision they made. It's been pretty simple for me. I haven't seen him in a month."

Yeah. So, that's weird. Very weird. Brock Broy looks good though again like that he had that one game was against the Panthers where he threw all those picks and they still won. I think,

but now he's back to like Brock Birdie being efficient, scrambling, doing his thing, hitting guys.

I think he's probably healthy now. Yeah. Yeah. So, the 49ers, like people aren't talking about the 49ers, but the 49ers, if the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday Night Football and the 49ers win out, they will be the one seed.

Yep. So, that's something that just isn't like I don't think has been on a lot of people's radar because of how good the Rams and the Seahawks have been all year. Yeah, they've been the 49ers are sneaking up on people right now and they've got Christian McCaffrey playing really good. Brock Pery and a good backup to Brock Pury and Mack just in case something happens to him. I I I really really think that Kyle Shanahan's done a great job this year.

Yeah, the three losses that the 49ers have had have been all to playoff teams. Jaguars, Texans, Rams. They're they're a good team and they're and and not they definitely are sneaking up on people. I've been I've been watching them but because of the seating and all that stuff but I feel like if you went around and you ask people like oh who's going to win the NFC West 49ers still can

well it's cuz they went win loss win loss win loss win loss and so nobody was in that middle

taking that seriously but they stacked three at the start of the season and now they're on another four game winning streak right now and they're healthy

and their schedule has broken their way a little bit. Yeah, but the the IU stuff is very strange. I don't I don't think it impacts the team at all because he hasn't been there. That sounds like it's going to be one of those cases where the team's gonna be like, "Yeah, we're actually not going to pay you." And the players gonna be like, "Fair."

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't show up. I really haven't I can't file a grievance because I haven't done anything.

Yeah. Okay. Last one. Uh Robback question. Rhoback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. QZips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Robback.com promo code take. Do you guys remember like two weeks ago um maybe three weeks ago when the Cowboys were the scariest team in the football?

Mhm. That was funny. They just lost the Vikings. They got nine. Nine was awesome tonight. JJ McCarthy looked

like he had full control of the offense. He did a very good job. That's got to ease Vikings fans a little bit to remember that, hey, he's still young and he's still figuring it out because he just went into Dallas and he played outside of that first, you know, interception. He played a very, very good game.

He was just trying to make a play though and he gritted it in the end zone. He gritted. That's that's got to be the most demoralizing thing when when nine is hitting you from a from five yards out with a gritty on a naked bootleg.

That was the Pton Manning naked boot that happened in Dallas. It was That play works every time by the way

in Dallas. It should especially. Yeah. The Cowboys. Tough break for them. Uh not not really going to be too upset about the Dallas Cowboys not making the playoffs.

No. So they're they're out, right, Max? No. Magic number is one. One loss. They either one loss by the Cowboys or one win by the Eagles.

The Cowboys have to win out. They got to beat the Chargers, the Commanders, and the Giants, which they could. The Cowboys could win out. I wouldn't be shocked. Like the Chargers, I think, are better team than them, but there's a chance. And then the Eagles have the Commanders.

Bills. Bills. Commanders. Commanders. They just got to win one on the Manders. I think you might take one against

What if you kept him out? Split home and home. What if you kept them out? What if we did?

That would be crazy. I You know what? If we That would be nuts. That I would I would make a t-shirt and hat for myself.

I have to. Yeah. Stop. It would just be for the streak of back-to-back division champions. It would just be making a t-shirt and hat for the Cowboys.

No, but it would just be a Cowboys No, it would be for the NFC East. It would be like

you would be every You would be so excited for the Cowboys to be It would be a It would be a list of division champions by the way back to back to back to back to back to back. No repeat champion NFC Beast.

Yep. Has anyone So, yeah, the the Vikings like looked good. Um Cowboys I it was funny that we had that. I I think it really is about the fact that the the Cowboys that's why we were all poison pill by oh my god the Cowboys are so dangerous

was because they were they were buried they were left for dead before the season started after the whole Michael Parsons thing happened and so nobody expected [ __ ] from them

and they beat the Chiefs on Thanksgiving day in the most watched regular season game ever.

But yeah, they're not they're not scary. Is there something wrong? Their defense still stinks.

Is there something wrong with Brandon Aubrey? Brandon Aubrey missed a field goal

twice. twice. Two field goals tonight. And um George Pickkins was I bet you George Pickkins wishes that the season ended after Thanksgiving because he would have made a lot of money cuz the last two games have not been great. The Lions game in this game.

He had a tough one again tonight. So he's probably like, "Hey, George, we got to remember you're in a contract here, dude. Try really hard."

I think he'll probably have he'll go off one of these last three games. I don't know.

Probably. Yeah. Okay. Christmas Day. Christmas Day, George Pickkins, two touchdowns, 140 yards.

Who they playing Christmas Day? The Commanders. Oh, yeah. Why don't you You could keep them out of the playoffs. Why don't you just beat them?

Well, no, cuz you're going to beat the Commanders next week. So, that would keep the Cowboys out of the playoffs.

Yeah, but no, Cowboys can't get in the playoffs. Wildard game. Commanders are going to beat the Eagles next week. And then the Eagles are going to lose to the Bills. And then the Commanders will beat the Eagles again, keeping the Eagles out of the playoffs and retaining the NFC East streak of no back-to-back division champions,

which you are proud of for divisional pride. Listen, it's there's not a lot that I have to be proud of, so I got to take it where I can get it. And uh when you look at that graphic, it's like 99% Cowboys and Eagles. And then like I think we pop up twice on that graphic. I don't think the Cowboys can get in as a wild card. They maybe they cannot. They can't. They got to win the division.

Well, the Packers have the same would if they won nine games the Packers and the Packers lost out, they would have the same record. But I don't know.

I think the Packers have the Well, they they tied, right? But I think they have whatever the next tiebreaker is.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is the next. Yeah. So, yeah, just eliminate them next week, Max.

Listen, everybody gets nines sometimes. Dude, he looked good. Nine's on a roll right now. That does this is this is a a testament to like playing hard throughout the SK. Like if you're a Vikings fan, you were pretty down the last two months. But a a night like tonight and depending on how if they can play spoiler in the last three weeks to some of their they play the Lions and the Packers, some of their division po foes like you could have a little momentum with nine.

So the the Vikings are officially eliminated. Yeah, they've been eliminated. They were eliminated before this game. Yeah. and they went in and did their thing. Congrats to them. Okay, should we do Who's back of the week and send everyone on their way? Who's back of the week is brought to you by Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is the perfect beverage to keep the good times going this holiday season. Whether you're in charge of drinks for your family's holiday party, heading to the hometown dive bars to stay warm during your time off or hitting a late season game, Twisted Tea is there to turn your holiday season up a notch and make a good time a great time. We love Twisted Tea. Love drinking Twisted Tea. I had actually uh Twisted Tea on Saturday night. Went to a holiday party. It was great time. Little little half and half action with the Twisted Tea. It's great, too, because they just go down smooth.

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My Who's back of the week is John Cena? Yeah. Yeah. He had his You watched last match ever.

Oh, you're doing quotes. Yeah, he's back. Last match ever. He You don't think he's ever?

He did a whole press story. He said, "This is it. 100%. No doubt about it. Last match ever.

He's What are you laughing about memes? He's Zach's Zach's been scrambling for who's back and Hank JUST TOOK HIS.

OH NO. He's had a couple that have been talked about throughout the show and then we got we got to John Cena.

It's okay. We got We gave him another one. We He's got another memes gave him another one.

But yeah, so he's he's he's notorious for never tapping. That's like his whole thing. That's what he built his brand on. And in his last match ever, uh, he gave up, tapped out, lost. So, he's going to be back because he has to come back to avenge that.

He has to avenge the tap out. Yeah. Do you do you agree with the fans that were saying, "Fuck you, Triple H," for having him lose his last match like that?

Yeah. I mean, that the the WW is all it's fan service. Yeah. like little kids, you know, how are you going to have a guy that's like the most inspirational figure known for not tapping out and go out by tapping out? Like, what message does that send?

That's a good point. It's It makes no sense. You're right. So, did he destroy his legacy?

The only way it can make sense is if he comes back like it was the ultimate whatever you call it.

Why did he say he was retiring? I think he he's just done just acting. He wants to just act more. Yeah, he's old.

He's got hair. Retire. Yeah. What? He's got hair. Yeah, he does have hair. Yeah. Jerry's uh son said that he uh Jerry said that his son was crying so hard he got a he got a fever. I don't think that's how fevers work. That's what he said. He was crying so much about John Cena retiring that he got a fever.

John Cena tapping. Yeah. John Cena tapping made his son cry. Yeah. His four-year-old son get a fever.

It It is honestly a bad message that he send to kids. It's like if if life gets hard,

tap out. Do you want to tap out? Raise your son to be a Philip Rivers, not a John Cena.

Well, yeah. And if he went out, you know, coming back from against all odds and winning and that was his final final sendoff, like that's a that's a good message. It makes no sense, which leads me to believe he's undoubtedly coming back over the next six months.

Now, what what about the people that paid like $5,000 to see John Cena's last match? What's the appropriate amount of time that you have to wait if you're John Cena to do the John Cena comeback?

I don't know. Oh, probably whenever their next like big pay-per-view is. Yeah, if they did it like in 5 months, people would be mad.

SummerSlam. I don't really know the WWE's coming. I mean, he'll come back, but he won't be back for a while.

I would imagine. I would say within a calendar year. Okay. Within a calendar year.

Yeah. Okay. Call your shot. A calendar year of Sounds like you're hating on wrestling a little bit.

I'm not hating on wrestling. I just like it. He did the whole press being like, "This is 100% it. It's my last match." If it was, he would not have lost. You're not wrong. But also, you can't have him. Did he have a belt going into it? You can't have him retire with a belt.

He must not have. He must not have. Wait, now I'm confused again about calendar year. You said within a calendar year of right now.

Calendar year. So, what would that mean? In the next two weeks. In the next two weeks.

Next calendar year, he'll be back. Next calendar year. That makes sense. 2026. That makes perfect sense. Okay, good. Who's back?

Thanks. Yeah. You good? I'm great. Great. We good? Yeah, we're good. We're good.

Never been better. I just think it had been a while since you lost a game, so we hadn't had a situation yet for a while.

There was no situation. We're good. It was a minor situation. Minor situation. I have a question.

Yeah, good question, Max. Did you think when we were doing that whole It's so fun to play the Raiders thing, did you think that was going to come to you at any point?

Yeah. Mhm. You You just shunned it. Yeah, I was not going to bring that up myself.

Well, I I I kept bringing it up specifically for that reason. What was I What would you What would I have buted in and said?

No, no, no. But credit to us for saying we didn't say it. I I was just talking to Max about how awesome it was to play the Raiders today.

Yeah, it was it was good. And Big Cat when you played the Raiders, that was awesome, too.

Yeah, we won. And Marcus Murray went off against the Raiders. I also didn't bring up that the Panthers also lost today,

which means which was another one of the winning teams that So, how many winning teams have they beaten?

They've beaten one. They're they're currently one and two against winning teams.

But that team that they beat with a winning record avenge their loss, but not the torch.

But not torch. Not the torch. Not the torch. Not torch. But you play you play. You play.

Listen to last Friday's part of my take if you think he's going to talk about the [ __ ] torch again. There's a there's a little button on your phone that

I think it's a little premature to say the torch. You said the torch was passed in like what September or or early October.

That feels premature. It was right. I was correct. Well, no, you have to win the division.

True. Yeah. What if you guys like play in the playoffs? Then the torch. That would be a torch.

That will 100% be a torch. It would have to be a torch. We're worried about the We're worried about the Ravens right now. I I

You'd have to make that a torch game. Ravens. You have to at least think about it.

Ravens. Okay. That would almost be worse if you got the torch and then gave it back within almost a calendar year.

Isn't it crazy though, Hank? Like losing a game, you you just then see everything differently where you're like, "Oh [ __ ] every team looks scary now."

Yeah. No, it's it's it's not a not a fun spot to be in the the it's going to be a long couple months. Buckle up.

But this is what strap in. This is the time of year that you like historically actually start playing football. Like football doesn't matter until late.

Yeah. Wake me up when the playoffs start. Strap in. I would rather have an extra, you know, week of of sleep, but that's fine.

Is there a chance there could be a team that makes the AFC playoffs with a losing record? Uh, maybe the Ravens still.

That would be hilarious. I think the Ravens could go. I guess they wouldn't play each other unless the unless the Patriots got the wild card.

I think they could go eight and nine. Yeah. Okay. Um, Py, your Who's back? Uh, my who's back is the Heisman Trophy.

Yes, that was going to be mine. Mendoza wins the Heisman Trophy. Diego Pavia did not win the Heisman Trophy. He may have acted like he won the Heisman Trophy afterwards. Yeah,

I was going to do Who's back? Johnny Manzel, but Johnny Manzel won it, the situation where like right after the award was announced and everything that happened that night reinforced the decision to give it to Mendoza.

Yeah, I like Fernando Mendoza. I I also like Pavia. I like Pavia. I thought that was a little lame to do that when you lost the high like Johnny Manzel worked because he won the Heisman and he like beat Bama and that stuff. I Fernando Mendoza seems like the sweetest dude ever. And we even had Albert Brerier doing a weird passive aggressive tweet. Did you see that?

Yeah. Which made like why even tweet that? Basically being like teams will talk about whether Fernando Mendoza is too big of a dork to be a good NFL quarterback. I don't if you saw the clip, but also

Andrew, what the clip after Fernando Mendoza won the Heisman and he went to the back room and his entire team was there and they were so [ __ ] hyped for him. I'm pretty sure he's a good teammate and the boys love him.

Yeah, he's a great teammate. I One of my favorite things that I saw from him was they asked him like, "What do you want to do with the trophy after you win it?" And uh what did Pavia say? He take it to the club or something. No, he's going to he was going to let like Theo Vaughn have it in the back of his podcast studio.

I'm going to give it to Theo Vaughn. And then Mendoza was like, I would like the Heisman Trophy to stay at the University of Indiana Bloomington because everyone there has been through thick and thin with this team. The ups and the downs, a lot of downs. And it belongs to the community. And then they're like, "Well, actually, you get two of them, so the school gets one, and then you get one yourself, too." He's like, "Oh, okay. Then I guess I'll have my own."

Jeremiah Love said he wanted to give it to God. I want to give it to God. And then The Von's podcast.

I'm going to put I'm going to put in the back of Theo Vaughn's podcast. Yeah, I was happy for Fernando Mendoza. Um, and you know, people, it wasn't like not every year can be someone put up Joe Burrow's numbers against Fern. I mean, Joe Burrow, that was maybe the greatest college football season ever. 60 touchdowns. Fernando Mendoza was awesome and he made big plays and big moments. And Indiana football is the number one football uh team in the country going into the playoffs. It's crazy. This whole thing is just if if if you went in a coma three years ago and woke up, you'd just be like, "What the [ __ ] They Indiana won the Heisman and they're the number one team. It makes no sense." But it's awesome for them.

Yeah. Not Notre Dame got left out of the playoffs for Indiana. For Indiana. That's Yeah,

that's crazy. But yeah, you would think that like if anything the the system would go out of its way to rig it for Notre Dame, which is completely backwards in college football right now. Listen, I like Pavia because he's he's a wild card. He's kind of crazy. He says uh a lot of stuff that he probably will end up regretting like after it was over and he was just like, "Fuck all the voters."

Yeah. Like I kind of I I like that. It's fun. It is. It's interesting having a guy like that around.

Yeah. But I think uh Yeah. Mendoza seems like a great guy. I like it. Yeah. What were you going to say, Max?

You're not even mentioning like the other finalist was Vanderbilt. Like if you woke up in a coma and it was like Indiana, Ohio State and Vanderbilt, it would be like, "What do you mean?"

Notre Dame, Ohio State, Indiana, and Vanderbilt. And the one two was Indiana, Vanderbilt.

Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't that close either. And it was uh Yeah, Mendoza. What a [ __ ] I mean, what a season. Indiana. I'm excited for the playoffs. And I do think I I'm I'm buying stock in Fernando Mendoza as a pro. I said that to you. Remember memes like two months ago? I was like, I think he I think he's I think he's got it. I think he's got it. The way he's like nerds out about football, that's a guy who just loves football.

Y and talking about football and reading defenses. We're going to lose Philip Rivers, but we're going to gain him.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Okay. My Who's back of the week? Uh NBA Cup. It actually was awesome.

Oh no. Was that yours, Zach? Uh no. No, you're good. You're good. Spurs beat the uh

OKC. Yeah. OKC. OKC second loss of the season. Yeah, huge loss there. They've just been credit to us. I know I know we got a long way to go in the NBA season, but at least through the first two months, our take that last year's OKC team might be the worst team they have

is they're they're dominant. But WBY changes everything. And the NBA Cup actually has been pretty cool. Credit to Adam Silver. That was an awesome game. Spurs beat the the Grizzlies. And Wimby is is a problem.

Wimby is a huge problem. Massive problem. I I hope I hope this continues for the rest of the season. Uh he had a a minor injury scare, but I got him to win the MVP. Took it week I think it was the first week of the NBA season and he's just like there's no accounting for him. You can't you can't design a system to keep the ball away from Wimby. You can't design a system to to effectively like attack the paint when Wimy's standing there. Yep.

He's so so fun to watch. Yep. Hey, you guys remember when I was uh when I was like, "Oh, the the Bulls are are kind of good, kind of fun." They're so bad.

And they lost the Pelicans again today. The Pelicans have five wins on the season and two of them are to the Bulls.

They're so bad. You know who's really good is the Pelicans shot 24% from three and beat the Bulls.

The Pistons are awesome. Pistons are very good. Bully ball. Hank, Celtics report. Go.

Celtics are good. They're they're on a good streak. Uh Tatum going to come back?

I don't think so. I don't know. He's been practicing. I think they're nine and two in their last 11 games. A couple games back from the Knicks.

That's pretty good. Sixers are in third. Playing well. Playing good ball. They beat the Pistons. Beat the Cavs.

Got a big one against the Pistons tonight. We'll do some maybe basketball previews in after the new year.

Mhm. Get get everyone geared up for the league. You guys beat the Sixers, Hank? We beat the Sixers in the beginning of the year. I'm say we beat the Pistons and the Cavs recently.

How's the Sixers doing? Uh, they're fine. Tyresese Maxi hasn't played the last two games cuz he was sick. But

Paul George is back. Yeah, Embiid had 40 on Friday and then Paul George had 35 tonight. They went one and one in those two games. But

without Maxi, you you'll be all right with that. Did you guys see that shot Steph Curry made warming up on Friday? That was the craziest shot. It was He's just Dude Perfect. Did you see it? Can you pull it up?

Is it real? Yeah, it's very real. There was a whole stance with the whole Those those videos are impossible. There's been so many fake

I don't know how this one would be faked. I don't you know I guess Yeah, you're right. All right. You're right, Hank. I'm You're right, dude. No. Search Steph Curry shot. You're right. This could very well be AI. I could be an idiot. Look at this. the official Warriors account posted, I think. I mean, that's stupid.

That's crazy. That's from That's an old video. Wait, is that is that old? Oh, I bet is

that might be an old video and it might be a shot that like hit the outside of the net that didn't go in cuz No, that was

that happened a couple years ago. That was That was Friday night. That was Friday night.

He did it again. Yeah, it's crazy. I I I don't know. I mean, they posted on Friday night, so if the Warriors are reposting it, that's lame. I'm going say it right now. Bad Warriors. Bad.

It does suck that we're like, wait, which video is this of Steph Curry hitting a 140 foot shot.

And it sucks being like, we don't know if this is real or not because everything is AI now. And nothing. I saw a woman get uh eaten by an alligator this morning. Like in real life or AI?

No, AI. Very AI, but it's just it I don't know why we're making these videos. AI. Listen, I think AI is I I think it's in hot water.

Really, I think AI is on the hot seat. Okay. I feel like this is uh we're we're in a good spot as humanity right now where AI has not been making enough money to justify all the investment. Isn't it like every time they do an every time you make an AI video of like a a fat woman falling through a bridge like uh an entire town in Tennessee loses its water.

That does happen. Yes. Yeah. But it's mostly that at this point AI is like there's five companies that make money right now and they're all in AI

and they're trying to sell their AI to businesses and then every time a business uses AI their customers are like, "Hey, what the [ __ ] the AI sucks. And the business are like, "We want to stop paying for this AI."

And then all the five companies that are making money are like, "Oh [ __ ] what are we going to do to make money now?

We owe a lot of money. A lot of people invested in us." I I feel like AI is in hot water.

All right, good. Hot water. We might beat the robots. All right. Did you guys see that robot going up the stairs in Pittsburgh?

[ __ ] [ __ ] these robots. That robot I would That robot's gonna kill us someday.

Well, it's the Wait, I'm seeing another angle of this Steph Curry thing. It may be It may be real. I the Warriors posting an AI video would be [ __ ] up.

That should be against the law. That's real. That's an insane shot. I think it's real.

Yeah, he's crazy, man. He's really good at basketball. Remember when we got to root for him when he was on the Olympic team?

Yeah, that was so much fun. That was cool. Uh, Zach, your who's back of the week?

Uh, my who's back of the week uh this week is going to be uh branched of the US military because we had a couple come together this weekend.

Oh, nice. Army Navy game went down. Great Army Navy game. I got a problem. What's our issue? PFT

CBS. Okay. Every year I watch the Army Navy game every year. It's It's the best flyover of the year.

This is a different They didn't have a flyover on TV this year. They went to commercial.

That's [ __ ] It's [ __ ] Everybody loves the Army Navy flyover. You get the helicopters from the Army. You get the F-18s from the Navy. And they just didn't put them on TV.

That's [ __ ] What's going on with that? We used to be a proper country. Hey, what's the deal with that?

What is up with that? Who Who at CBS made that decision? Who's in charge of CBS now?

Yeah. I got a bone to pick with you. I think it was Gary Danielson's last uh Army Navy game. I think he's retiring at the end of the year.

He's a good announcer. Yeah. Kind of like a classic announcer voice. Yeah. He got very emotional. It was nice.

I like when they do the exchange of of the students that like spent the semester at the other place. Yeah. They they exchange do the prisoners at midfield.

Yeah. That's a nice moment. Good coin flip. Also, shout out Washington winning the first bowl game. They slipped that one in.

Wait, what? Oh, yeah. Washington kicked the [ __ ] out of Boise. Oh, let's go on Saturday night.

Let's go Huskies. Did not know that. They slipped that one in. That's a [ __ ] I bet that's I got another problem with that. This Saturday is for for Army Navy only.

Yes, PFD. I bet the game and I didn't watch a snap. I I had Boise. Oh, I had Oh, also who's back? The low man trophy.

Yeah, because the Heisman Trophy, they get all the ballots in before the Army Navy game. With the low man trophy, that is a very important game to the final Low Man voting ties.

When are we going to do it? We're sending the ballots out this week. Um, when should we do it?

I don't know. Good question. We could Are we doing it on the show? We could do it.

Or do we do Are we doing our own show? We could do it on part of my take as part of part of my take or we could do it on a live stream.

Yeah. Whether it's on mega day or if it's or it could be New Year's Day. It could be on New Year's Day. Yeah. A New Year's Day trophy. The

New Year's Day. All right. So, if you're a Low Man Trophy voter, uh the ballots will be going out this week. And uh I got to be honest, I think there's like probably four fullbacks in the country.

Okay. Uh so if you play fullback in college, you're on the watch list for the Low Man Trophy. Now, there's

tweet us and let us know why you should win the low man. No, there there's two there's two guys. I think it's going to be a twoman race. I don't want to impact the voting. Uh but there's two guys I got my eye on. It's going to be one of those two that win, but the the ballots will go out this week. But yeah, if you play if you've taken like 40 snaps at the position of fullback, congratulations. You're a finalist for the Low Man Trophy. Put that on your resume.

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three. I got it. 22. Colton Colton's in the booth. Colton's in the booth. Colton, what if

Wait, memes. Memes. What's up? This is Colton's first. No, you guessed uh Colton, did you guess over week?

He was here. When was it? Uh camp week. Oh, camp week. Camp week. So, you've you've guessed a couple times. What what happens if Colton gets it before you? Memes.

I like Colton, but for now. Yeah. No, I like Colton. I mean, right now at this moment, but if he got it, you would

I'd be ecstatic for him. Destroy him. Colton, you Colton, you have to be a little nervous that if you get this, memes is going to hate your guts.

Don't let us Don't let him tear us apart here Colton. I'm always nervous about memes hating me.

That's good. Actually, really good life advice right there. Cole, what was your number?

10. 10. I'm roo for you. I'm gonna go with two. I'll go with 100 for DJ Moore. Eight.

I'll go with 99. Pug. I'm gonna go nine for nine. 4. That's good. That's a good one.

Yeah. Nine. You didn't think about that. I feel good. It's probably It's probably

Hey, what was your guess? 22. Oh, 20. Should we do one more though? Let's do one more. How close are we?

20. I used to say 20 all the time. We got to be close, right? 100. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let me bring that up. That's on me.

I think it's less than 40. We are 39 guesses away. Probably 38 now. Wow. I already guessed it correct.

No, you didn't. You didn't get it. You never got a memes. Yes, I do. Never got a memes.

Yes, I do. Never got a memes. Yes, I do. 64. 64. Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? Anybody? 64.

64. It says right here memes has never won on on the website. Nope. Career stats 0.0.

It's like you NEXT SATURDAY. OH, never has this roast time. You're getting sucked and [ __ ] next Saturday.

I'll take the sucking. But you're doing both. I'm I'm sucking. No, you told me I was getting sucked. You're hitting the pterodactyl. That's three dicks in one day.

A great Saturday for me. Pterodactyl. That's a great Saturday for me. Love you guys.

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Who speaks in "BILLS INSANE COMEBACK, MAHOMES AND PARSONS INJURED + BRONCOS STAY DOMINANT"?

Dan Katz (Host), Eric Sollenberger (Host), Henry Lockwood (Host), Max Dolente (Host), Zach (Host), Memes (Host), Colton (Guest), Nicholas Fisouli (Guest).

What is "BILLS INSANE COMEBACK, MAHOMES AND PARSONS INJURED + BRONCOS STAY DOMINANT" about?

In Week 15 of the NFL, notable highlights include the Buffalo Bills staging an incredible comeback, injuries impacting key players like Patrick Mahomes and Micah Parsons, and the Denver Broncos maintaining their dominance. The playoff picture becomes clearer with some teams being eliminated, alongside discussions about player performances and a promotion from Game Time celebrating fan experiences.

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How long is "BILLS INSANE COMEBACK, MAHOMES AND PARSONS INJURED + BRONCOS STAY DOMINANT"?

The episode runs 2 h 35 min; the transcript is about 33,372 words in 875 timestamped sections.

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