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OHIO STATE, GEORGIA & BAMA GO DOWN + JERRY O’CONNELL FANTASY FOOTBALL EXIT INTERVIEW
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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "OHIO STATE, GEORGIA & BAMA GO DOWN + JERRY O’CONNELL FANTASY FOOTBALL EXIT INTERVIEW", an episode of Pardon My Take published January 2, 2026 (3 h 23 min, about 43,943 words). It mentions 137 people, works and ideas, including Tyler Shuck, Indiana, Ohio State, Derrick Henry, Curt Signetti.
What is discussed, and when
- – 15:00: Indiana, Indiana, Ohio State, Ohio State
- – 30:00: Alabama, Alabama, Indiana, Indiana
- – 45:00: Chargers, Patriots, Broncos, Georgia
- – 1:00:00: Captain James Cook, DraftKings, Tyler Shuck, Derrick Henry
- – 1:15:00: Seahawks, Steelers, Vikings, Joe Burrow
- – 1:30:00: Texans, Campbell, Chargers, Dan Campbell
- – 1:45:00: Commanders, Patriots, Drake May, Cowboys
- – 2:00:00: Steelers, Commanders, Jerry Oonnell, DraftKings
- – 2:15:00: Chargers, Jackson Dart, Tyler Shuck, Alabama
- – 2:30:00: Steelers, Jackson Smith-Njigba, Jerry O'Connor, Bo Nicks
- – 2:45:00: Giants, Jackson Smith Nigba, Chargers, Clint Kubak
- – 3:00:00: Coach Ganon, Brock Perie, D Marcato, Devante Adams
- – 3:15:00: Indiana, Frank Kaminsky, Indiana, Patriots
- – 3:23:03: Jackpocket, Georgia
Notable quotes from "OHIO STATE, GEORGIA & BAMA GO DOWN + JERRY O’CONNELL FANTASY FOOTBALL EXIT INTERVIEW"
New Year's Eve. It was shocking but also not shocking because Miami had this in them but in the fact that Ohio State just looked like they got bullied the entire time. The…
about Ohio State · atYoung Concrete. So what and then Alabama Indiana, which was absolute belt ass. And yeah, it was just it was just smothering by Indiana. They were trying to run.
about Alabama · atStory, but they weren't, good enough to win a national title. This year's Indiana team is like they're just better than pretty much every team.
about Indiana · atProfile. I don't have LinkedIn so I can't see it, but he's Yeah. student athlete, Indiana University, Bloomington. Process driven and detail oriented leader studying business…
about Indiana University · atThat sucks for the Bucks. That sucks for Tyler Shuck, but I think Tyler Shuck's so good he's going to find a way. Yeah.
about Tyler Shuck · atHank, did you know that Diggs, if he gets 30 yards on Sunday, he gets a,000 for the season and he would make 500 grand in contract incentives. Pretty cool.
about Stefan Diggs · atWhistle. New customers bet just $5. If your bet wins, you'll get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code take. That's code take to turn…
about DraftKings · atLast week they did something that hadn't been done in a long time with Derrick Henry. They ran the ball out of I form which is awesome. Yes. It's old school football. He had 18…
about Derrick Henry · at
Who and what is mentioned in this episode?
People
- Tyler Shuck — Person · Referenced NFL player (Saints QB) / recurring comedic centerpiece · 9 mentions · first at
A major recurring bit: hosts hype him as elite/ROY-level and tie multiple Week 18 playoff scenarios to him. - Derrick Henry — Person · Referenced NFL running back (game preview + touchdown parlay) · 6 mentions · first at
Appears in betting segment (TD parlay) and Ravens-Steelers preview as the centerpiece of Baltimore’s late-season/ playoff identity; also referenced in rushing-title context. - Curt Signetti — Person · Referenced coach (Indiana) · 3 mentions · first at
Repeatedly referenced as Indiana's head coach; praised as a transformative hire and important reason for Indiana's success.Games. Indiana no way could they have turned No. Indiana's turned it Indiana Curt Signetti is such a psycho he wears a quarterzip with nothing underneath.
- Stefan Diggs — Person · Referenced NFL wide receiver (transaction + legal news + incentives) · 4 mentions · first at
Appears in multiple threads: reported Packers move/waiver claim confusion, Patriots-related legal-report discussion, and a Week 18 incentive (yards for bonus). - Drake May — Person · Referenced NFL quarterback (award discussion) · 4 mentions · first at
Discussed as the likely MVP in the show’s Patriots-centric banter; contrasted with Matthew Stafford in MVP narrative talk.We should say too on the positive side, congratulations. It feels like Drake May is going to win the MVP.
- Trinidad Chamblas — Person · Referenced player (college) · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned as an outstanding, electric player (Mississippi) who excelled in the semifinal; compared to Mendoza.Pass. So, so I think that Mendoza, great player, maybe a better player than Trinidad Chamblas, but what they asked Trinidad Chamblas to do was very different from what Mendoza…
- Nick Saban — Person · Referenced coach figure (coaching tree) · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned in discussion about coaching influences and the prevalence of 'Nick Saban disciples' among Final Four coaches.You got to get something from that tree.
- Mario Cristobal — Person · Referenced coach (Miami praise/analysis) · 9 mentions
Referenced as Miami's coach who 'coached a perfect game' in upset over Ohio State.Going to get too conservative when they're up three? Are they, six minutes left? No, no, they he there was a perfect drive, perfect use of the clock. Absolutely big boy. And…
- Jim Harbaugh — Person · Referenced NFL coach · 4 mentions · first at
Mentioned re: Lamar Jackson situation and relationship with player; referenced as a high-profile coach.If they win a couple games, will they just keep going with the Harbaugh Lamar thing? There's a lot of smoke, but they have one game to get in. And who knows? the Ravens would officially,.
- Lane Kiffin — Person · Referenced coach (Ol Miss / career movement) · 3 mentions
Mentioned regarding payout structure and coach movement (LSU/other jobs) and team motivation. - Jackson Smith-Njigba — Person · Referenced wide receiver (fantasy draft regret) · 2 mentions · first at
Called the 'big one we missed' — panel regrets not drafting him in place of another pick in fantasy draft.[clears throat] the third round, Jackson Smith, Najigba. we took Jaden and that was an error.
- Treat Williams — Person · Referenced NFL player (offensive tackle) · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned in Niners context as an important starter whose availability could impact the 49ers-Games outcome.They have one of the best defensive lines in football. So, I feel like missing Trent Williams is going to be a big thing for him. and their defense is not going to be able to really do anything against Sam Darnold in that offense.
- Jaden Daniels — Person · Referenced player (college/backup QB conversation) · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned in regretful context — panel said drafting Jackson Smith-Njigba over Jaden Daniels was an error in a fantasy draft; also discussed as a player.Lopez filing for divorce. I far be it for me to turn my nose up at the universe, but I think sometimes you just got to go with your gut and I think overall the Bucks should be a better team.
- Brock Purdy — Person · Referenced NFL player (49ers QB) in performance-stat discussion · 1 mention · first at
Cited with advanced stats and win streak since returning from injury, shaping Seahawks–49ers stakes analysis.Brock Pery since returning from injury, 6-0. He's the number f number one in the PFF grades, which I don't really believe in the PFF grades cuz we were joking about it. They have Christian.
- Aaron Rodgers — Person · Referenced NFL quarterback (Steelers/Jets context) · 1 mention · first at
Appears in Steelers-Ravens preview as part of an end-of-era vibe; also referenced in Jets discussion (streaks, interceptions, and team struggles).And I just I if you close your eyes, I can just see a sad Aaron Rogers and Mike Tomman walking off the field.
- Max Crosby — Person · Referenced NFL player (Raiders DE) in trade/elite-demand talk · 1 mention · first at
Brought up as a coveted star every contender would want; hosts suggest he’s earned the right to request a trade.You wanted to be there. I think at this point, you're well within your rights to be Fuck you guys. Trade me.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced NFL quarterback (MVP narrative foil) · 1 mention · first at
Presented as an alternative MVP candidate; his Monday night performance is cited as shaping public MVP perception.Matthew Safford's Monday night performance kind of submitted it.
- Joe Burrow — Person · Referenced NFL quarterback (game line / sack avoidance talk) · 4 mentions · first at
Mentioned in Browns-Bengals preview in the context of sack decisions and whether a QB would avoid sacks to deny a defender a milestone.Yeah, I believe so. I actually don't know cuz I saw someone cuz I I saw an interview with Joe Burrow where he said there's going to be some times in the game where taking a sack is the best option.
- Jerry O'Connor — Person · Referenced participant (fantasy drafting / show segment subject) · 2 mentions · first at
Named as the person being ‘banned’ from drafting next year; also tied to an ‘exit interview’ segment about the fantasy season.We are also going to do our exit interview with Jerry Oonnell on our fantasy season. Maybe a little contentious.
- Michael Irvin — Person · Referenced sideline personality (celebrity at game) · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned as part of Miami's sideline energy; used to illustrate Miami's tradition and emotional atmosphere.Bivo. When you see Georgia, you have UGGA, you have all these traditions, and then Miami's tradition is Michael Irvin losing his mind, taking off his belt and whipping a…
- Ray Lewis — Person · Referenced sideline personality (celebrity at game) · 2 mentions · first at
Paired with Michael Irvin as part of Miami's sideline energy; discussed approvingly.He put an Ohio State jersey on a Gatorade bottle and whipped the [ __ ] out of it. and Ray Lewis just screaming at him. They were just Miami. They were yelling at each other. But that's that's brotherhood man.
- Christian Barmore — Person · Referenced NFL defensive player (legal news context) · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned alongside Stefon Diggs in discussion of accusations/reports involving Patriots players; framed as an ongoing legal situation and potential distraction.Stefon Diggs, Bear Moore. I the statements from the Patriots are interesting because they like they were like we trust Stefon Diggs and with the other one they.
- Tua Tagovailoa — Person · Referenced NFL player (Dolphins QB) in cold-weather/availability talk · 1 mention · first at
Used as a comparison point for Miami’s QB situation and cold-weather performance narrative vs Patriots.Maybe Tua is undefeated against Jets.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced NFL player (Rams QB) as MVP foil to Drake May bit · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as an MVP narrative driver due to a Monday night performance; used to critique MVP discourse timing/TV bias.Matthew Safford's Monday night performance kind of submitted it.
- Trevor Lawrence — Person · Referenced NFL quarterback · 3 mentions
Mentioned as part of general discussion of top quarterbacks and future prospects; part of list of players mentioned in transcript. - Daniel Lanning — Person · Referenced coach (coaching tree) · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned among coaches who are part of the Saban coaching tree (coaching lineage discussion).You got to get something from that tree.
- Kirk Cousins — Person · Referenced NFL quarterback (Falcons what-if) · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as a hypothetical/alternate reality for Atlanta’s season outcome; used to frame Falcons disappointment and roster expectations.Yeah. And we could have Kirk Cousins in the playoffs right now.
- Pat Mahomes — Person · Referenced NFL player · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned in passing while discussing quarterbacks and MVP conversation context.Oh, I actually have a thing about the Bills. If Josh Allen doesn't friend of the show, if Josh Allen doesn't do it this season, I don't know when he is with Mahomes of Burrow out of there.
- Justin Fields — Person · Referenced NFL player (QB) in passing (not substantively discussed) · 1 mention · first at
Appears only in the entity list; not clearly present in the provided transcript context beyond extraction noise.Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are both injured.
- DJ Uiagalelei — Person · 11 mentions
- Ryan Tannehill — Person · 11 mentions
- Tanner McKee — Person · 11 mentions
- Jerry Oonnell — Person · 6 mentions · first at
We are also going to do our exit interview with Jerry Oonnell on our fantasy season. Maybe a little contentious.
- Saquon — Person · 6 mentions · first at
Hey, Max Saquon [ __ ] us hard this season. He [ __ ] us real hard. He was our first pick.
- Captain James Cook — Person · 5 mentions · first at
Oh, James Cook. Remember talking about him getting the rushing title?
- Jackson Smith Nigba — Person · 4 mentions · first at
I'll tell you the big one we missed was, [clears throat] in the third round, Jackson Smith, Nigba, we took, we took Jaden and that was an error.
- Joe Flacco — Person · 3 mentions · first at
It's Joe Burrow or sorry, it's Joe Flacco. This might be it.
- Dan Campbell — Person · 3 mentions · first at
And then it feels like a revenge for Dan Campbell because the story all year has been Dan Campbell's Ben Johnson merchant and he is potentially going to raid the entire Bears coaching staff in the.
- Tre Lance — Person · 3 mentions · first at
Which is the smart move. Broncos obviously need to win to get the one seed. Is there a chance Tre Lance is going to start?
- Jackson Dart — Person · 3 mentions · first at
Season. A sick season. I was begging anyone to take him up our hands for anyone. We did have Jackson Dart, but after week 16 and that one and that one-point game, I couldn't…
Companies & orgs
- Steelers — Company · 20 mentions · first at
I think every team would just be like Steelers.
- Chargers — Company · 18 mentions · first at
Because the Chargers are not playing anyone.
- Indiana — Company · 16 mentions · first at
Yeah, we got Oregon vers Indiana in one side of the bracket, Miss Miami in the other side. Joel Clatt's probably got to feel a little stupid right now because Miami incredible. Let's start with that.
- Patriots — Company · 14 mentions · first at
There was some reports that came out about accusations made against some Patriots players.
- Alabama — Company · 12 mentions · first at
Let's call us haters. What a start to the new year because we watched in 24 hours Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia all lose.
- Ohio State — Company · 12 mentions · first at
Let's call us haters. What a start to the new year because we watched in 24 hours Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia all lose.
- Georgia — Company · 11 mentions · first at
Quarterfinals recap. Incredible. last game that we just watched, Miss versus Georgia.
- Commanders — Company · 11 mentions · first at
I think the commanders figured it out, too. There's a there's a strategy behind it, but Todd Bulls is like there's you know what the probability of them scoring a touchdown is 0% when it goes.
- Seahawks — Company · 11 mentions · first at
Yeah. Okay. Saturday night. Two really good teams. Seahawks at niners. Niners are one and a half point underdogs.
- Giants — Company · 11 mentions · first at
Cowboys and Giants. Giants plus three and a half over.
- Packers — Company · 7 mentions · first at
We also had I think the Vi the Packers announced it was officially Clayton Ton. I think we might have said Malik Willis.
- Jaguars — Company · 7 mentions · first at
No, if the I'm looking right now. Hold on. I'm looking it up. I got the Jaguars winning. I got Right now, the Bills are the seven seed.
- Texans — Company · 7 mentions · first at
Yeah. Colts at Texans. Another one that matters because the Texans if they win and the Jaguars lose the Texans would win the AFC South. Texans are minus 10 and a half. Overunder is 38 and a half.
- DraftKings — Company · 6 mentions · first at
On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings, we're back in studio. The whole crew is here. We got college football quarterfinals recap. Incredible. last game that we.
- Vikings — Company · 6 mentions · first at
Remember when the Eagles and Vikings played before the Super Bowl in Minnesota? Everyone's Whoa, this would be nuts.
- Broncos — Company · 5 mentions · first at
You would play the Chargers ball club. If the Bills win and the Broncos lose or the Broncos win, you'd play the Chargers.
- Cowboys — Company · 5 mentions · first at
Cowboys and Giants. Giants plus three and a half over.
- Titans — Company · 5 mentions · first at
Okay. Titans at Jaguars. Jaguars are - 12 and a half over under 47 and a half.
- Campbell — Company · 4 mentions · first at
And then it feels like a revenge for Dan Campbell because the story all year has been Dan Campbell's Ben Johnson merchant and he is potentially going to raid the entire Bears coaching staff in the offseason.
- Buccaneers — Company · 2 mentions · first at
So I think I'm going to bet on the Buccaneers and then I'm also going to bet on Chuck.
- Jackpocket — Company · 2 mentions · first at
Is an extremely easy to use. 75 people have already become millionaires using Jackpocket. And now, new Jackpocket customers will get $5 in free lottery credits. Just sign up…
- Bears — Company · 2 mentions
- Jets — Company · 2 mentions
- Lions — Company · 2 mentions
- Denver — Company · 1 mention · first at
That was crazy. [snorts] Denver. I got to tell you, Dodington is not that great of a quarterback to draft in fantasy. He just doesn't put up major numbers. [ __ ] I really missed R.J. Harvey, though. I.
- Dallas — Company · 1 mention · first at
God, from a fantasy standpoint though, that team sucks. [ __ ] me. Saquon really [ __ ] us. Dallas again. Love. Okay, Max, here we go. Team that didn't have a good season. We…
- Colts — Company · 1 mention
Products & tech
- Chunky — Product · 2 mentions · first at
I'm also craving soup. It's soup season and no soup satisfies all your cravings like chunky. Chunky's bold, meaty, has all the cravable flavors that you need to tackle hunger. Go pick up a can of chunky today. Crush your cravings.
Concepts & topics
- Nick Saban disciples — Concept · Coaching lineage concept · 1 mention · first at
Used to explain why many successful programs/coaches share a Saban-influenced background; significant to episode analysis.You got to get something from that tree.
- LinkedIn — Concept · Contextual detail about athlete (Mendoza) · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned humorously as the only social platform Mendoza uses during season (character detail used to depict his personality).He doesn't have so like he said he doesn't go on social I think the only social media he goes on during the season is LinkedIn. I'm pretty sure that he said that. I don't know. Just to.
- Cleveland Browns — Concept · Referenced NFL team (fantasy context) · 4 mentions
Mentioned briefly in NFL transaction context (injury reports) and roster talk; lower importance.
Places & events
- Indiana — Place · Setting · 16 mentions · first at
Highlighted as a strong team in the college football playoffs, particularly their victory over Alabama. - Ohio State — Place · Setting · 12 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the context of college football playoffs and their performance against Miami. - Miami — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
Discussed as a dominant team in the college football playoffs against Ohio State.Feel a little stupid right now because Miami incredible. Let's start with that one. Miami just absolutely manned up Ohio State on New Year's Eve. It was shocking but also not…
- Indiana University — Place · School affiliated with player Mendoza · 2 mentions · first at
Mendoza is described as a student-athlete at Indiana University Bloomington; team discussed heavily (Rose Bowl). - Alabama — Place · Setting · 12 mentions · first at
Discussed in the context of their loss to Indiana in the college football playoffs. - Oregon — Place · Team/location referenced · 7 mentions · first at
Repeatedly referenced as one of the semifinal teams and discussed in game recaps (Oregon vs Texas Tech).So, yeah, Oregon just kicked the [ __ ] out of them. It was a it was way worse of a game than I had even thought.
- Michigan — Place · Setting · 5 mentions · first at
Referenced in relation to their rivalry with Ohio State and their impact on Ohio State's season.Well, no, they did beat Michigan.
- Blooms — Place · Referenced location (Indiana) · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as 'Bloomington' shorthand when discussing Mendoza's university (Indiana University Bloomington). May be transcript artifact 'Blooms'.Profile. I don't have LinkedIn so I can't see it, but he's Yeah. student athlete, Indiana University, Bloomington. Process driven and detail oriented leader studying business…
- Wisconsin Dells — Place · 1 mention · first at
Looking at me like that for, Max? I'm not talking about like the Amazon zip lines. I'm talking about like Wisconsin Dells just go from like one end of a warehouse to another.
Sponsors
- DraftKings — Sponsor · Episode sponsor · 6 mentions · first at
Primary commercial sponsor of the episode — ad read with sign-up CTA and promo code. - Uber Eats — Sponsor · Episode sponsor (closing / secondary) · 2 mentions · first at
Sponsor ad included in episode promoting game-day food delivery and deals.Brought to you by Uber Eatats, reminding fans that if football coincidentally makes you hungry, you can get game day deals on wings, burgers, beers, chips, and more all season…
- Take — Sponsor · Promo code / DraftKings attribution · 3 mentions
Appears as sponsor/product label tied to DraftKings promo: 'Use code take' — incidental sponsor-like token.Your bet wins, you'll get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code take. That's code take to turn five bucks into 200 in bonus bets if…
Full transcript with timestamps
The big one we missed was um in [clears throat] the third round, Jackson Smith, Najigba. Uh we took uh
we took Jaden and that was an error. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Error. It was. What are we doing this offseason? Are we going to like work on like what are we doing in the offseason, PFT?
Well, we're banning Jerry Oconor from drafting him next year. So, I think that's going to arrow going straight up for Jaden. Straight up to the right. Yep. On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings, we're back in studio. The whole crew is here. We got college football quarterfinals recap. Incredible. Uh last game that we just watched, Miss versus Georgia. Couple other games weren't as exciting, but we're going to talk about all of them. We have the semi-final set. We're going to do our week 18 picks and preview. We have Hank and and Zach back.
We are also going to do our exit interview with Jerry Oonnell on our fantasy season. Maybe a little contentious.
Runners up. Runners up. So, we finished second and we wanted to just talk it out with Jerry, see what we can do better, what we can maybe give him to make it a a better experience next year. And then we're going to finish with Firefest. And that's it. It's going to be a great Friday show. And then we'll be back to three times a week next week. Okay, let's go.
football and yeah might Yeah. Yeah. Might take Yeah. My take. Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, January 2nd. Happy New Year's, guys.
Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Happy 2026. And and let let me just say uh to start 2026, if you are a regular fan of college football, let's say 95% of us out there that don't root for the Blueb Bloods, let's call us haters. What a start to the new year because we watched in 24 hours Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia all lose.
The Red Bloods. Yeah. Yeah. And I think if memory served, since we've gone to the 14 playoff and now to the 12 team playoff, I think this might be the first year where none of those teams are in the final four.
So yeah, we have So it's all we got all new colors. Yeah, we got Oregon vers Indiana in one side of the bracket, Miss Miami in the other side. Joel Clatt's probably got to feel a little stupid right now because Miami incredible. Let's start with that one. Miami just absolutely manned up Ohio State on New Year's Eve. It was um shocking but also not shocking because Miami had this in them but in the fact that Ohio State just looked like they got bullied the entire time. The Julian Sai pick six obviously tilted the game. But my big takeaway from this game was not only obviously Miami can win the national title, but this was felt like Mario Crystalall like he coached a perfect game and even in that last drive that Miami had where you're like are they going to get too conservative when they're up three? Are they, you know, six minutes left? No, no, they he there was a perfect drive, perfect use of the
clock. Absolutely big boy. And Ohio State, listen, hand up. Sometimes you get it wrong. This Ohio State not better than last year's Ohio State
officially. Yeah. Well, no, they did beat Michigan. They did, which last year's Ohio State team did not,
but this year is 2026. Yes. So, this team in 2026? Well, no, they lost in 2025.
Uh on on which time zones? That's true. Not every time zone. We can't get into time zones.
We can't do that. But yeah, that was Ohio State lost their last two games of the year. They lost to Indiana. They lost. It It actually is. My My weird take here is that Michigan did it again.
They broke them. They Ryan Day had spent so much energy to beat Michigan this year after they beat Michigan. It was over.
Their whole season was building up to that. Yeah. I do think that uh if if you were to just say like the last two weeks of each program, Michigan had a better a better last two weeks. And I I hate I hate that my head went there, but it did feel like Ryan Day obviously getting the monkey off his back, beating Michigan. The Indiana game in the Big 10 Championship game was very close. If they hit a field goal, it's different. This game though, Miami, they like watching this game, you're like, Miami is the better team.
From the opening drive, it it felt like Miami was violent. Yeah, they brought they brought some bad intentions to the field. And uh yeah, Baro Crystal Ball, that defense, the defensive line and the linebackers for Miami, they were just beating the [ __ ] out of Ohio State
in a way. Ruben Bane is a monster and I think we had the two best defensive players in college football
on the field with Bane and Caleb DS for Ohio State. Both guys played great. It was just the big boys for Miami were they were more violent. Sometimes the game of football just comes down to who has the capability and the will to uh to inflict physical pain on your opponent. And yeah, Miami was fun to watch.
Also, Michael Irvin and Ray Lewis, what a dynamic duo on the sidelines just like screaming at each other in a language that twins teach each other. It was just it was uh it was belt to ass.
It it was the perfect They're They're perfect for Miami. Yeah, because you know when you watch Texas game, you see Bivo. When you see Georgia, you have UGGA, you have all these traditions, and then Miami's tradition is Michael Irvin losing his mind, taking off his belt and whipping a Gatorade bottle to the point where you're like, "Please stop hurting that Gatorade bottle." And it's so Miami.
I think he also assaulted a trash can at some point. He was He put an Ohio State jersey on a Gatorade bottle and whipped the [ __ ] out of it. and Ray Lewis just screaming at him. They were just Miami. They were yelling at each other. But that's that's brotherhood man.
The U is back. The U is so win the title. So, yeah, that was that was New Year's Eve, which it wasn't like the most exciting game, but it was exciting to see a team dominate Ohio State the way they did. And, you know, Ohio State still is going to be, you know, Ryan Day. I know it's it's funny that Ohio State fans basically lived out the hypothetical we all talked about last year. Would you rather lose to Michigan and win the national title or beat Michigan and not win the national title? You did it in back-to-back years. I would imagine most Ohio State fans right now are feeling like last year was the preferable outcome.
I would say winning the national championship is the preferable. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that.
But you listen, our guy Tate, good season. There's nothing hanging. Good season. 12-0.
Ohio State. You guys had fun. Yeah, you had a lot of fun. Good season. 12 and0. A lot of memories. A lot of friends made.
A lot of fraud watched comments being made. There's a lot of frauds. Yeah, there's a lot of frauds. That That's my big takeaway from this weekend in college football. So many frauds. Yeah,
so many frauds. So the the we started New Year's Day with Oregon Texas Tech, which was a tough watch. or now Oregon is was way better and they deserve all the credit, but I also like, you know, when people watch a game and it's low scoring and they're like, you don't love defensive battles.
Yeah. Oregon's defense very good. Or Texas Tech's defense very good. Texas Tech's offense was like abysmal. Unbelievably bad.
Just unbeliev. And Baron Morton, I know he's been injured. I think he said he was like 85%. But still, it was so tough to watch. And credit to Oregon for just taking it to him and and squeezing the life out of him. But that was not a I wouldn't say that's a rewatchable game.
It was a terrible game. It was a bad football game. I do think it's good for the the time of day and like New Year's Day. Like you'd rather have the stinker be early. You're hung over. You you can just take a nap.
It was a good sleep through game for sure. And for me, I I really enjoyed watching this game. I kicked my feet back. That I felt like today was a a win for JMU.
Yeah, it was just Yeah. Texas Tech could not move the ball against Oregon. Um I think Oregon is probably the second best team right now. I think the numbers would probably bear that out with the the the spreads that are coming out.
Yeah. Um and and and it's going to be They played a good game earlier this season too.
Yeah. So, uh yeah, Oregon just kicked the [ __ ] out of them. It it was a it was way way worse of a game than I had even thought.
Did you see Zack, by the way, uh your nickname? You should we should have gotten this nickname for you, but unfortunately it's it's not yours. Did you see the the uh Matteo U?
I did see the concrete the concrete ccentric nickname. Great nickname. Young concrete.
That's a good one. Great nickname. That's a good one. Was he the one that they were like he runs a 4640 and squats 775 pounds. There was one guy on Oregon's defense. I don't know if it was him or someone else, but it was just they said like four numbers in a row and I just how is this how is this possible? But they have dudes.
If you just call somebody Young Concrete, they're able to hit harder just with that nickname.
Young Concrete. So what um and then Alabama Indiana, which was absolute belt ass. And
yeah, it was just it was just smothering by Indiana. They they were trying to run the score up. They were trying to emasculate Alabama and they did. Like from the very start, I guess the first drive from from Indiana, they ended up punting, right? They went three and out on that one. After that, it was just Mendoza was perfect. He played a perfect game of football. Indiana and he and his offense really played a perfect game of football. Just methodical
and his defense played a perfect game. Defense was great. They they just moved the chains. They didn't take too many shots, but every time they took a shot, it was a touchdown. It was like a 30-yard touchdown. Yeah,
Mendoza is a [ __ ] beast putting it on a on a dot in the end zone. The So, it it I'm the worst gambler of all time. So, this isn't like something that I'm I'm going to pump my chest out, but every now and then I'll get something right. And I thought going into this game, if you had flipped the jerseys and Indiana was wearing Bama jerseys and Bama was wearing Indiana jerseys, it would have been like a 14-point spread. Indiana is in my theory going into it was Indiana is better than Alabama in every single facet of this game and a seven-point spread was so disrespectful to the the type of team cuz people still have it in their brain.
They think Bama Bama always wins these games. Indiana no way could they have turned No. Indiana's turned it Indiana Curt Signetti is such a psycho he wears a quarterzip with nothing underneath.
Yeah, that is a psychotic psychotic move. That's a serial killer or a guy who goes and kills Alabama's program.
He's going straight up zipper to skin. The cold ass zipper right down his sternum. It is It is crazy. I just I look at him. I'm wondering like when you zip that thing up, you're pulling out your chest hair because you like it. Yeah,
cuz you think that feels good. And his snarl and his looks when when when Alabama went for it on that fourth down, he was just staring at them. They're just such a good football team. I know it takes a while sometimes for people to come around to these things. Last year's Indiana team was a great story, but they weren't, you know, good enough to win a national title. This year's Indiana team is like they're just better than pretty much every team. Yeah, they could lose to Oregon because you could always lose, especially when you play the second time, but a game like today, they're just better than Alabama. Like, their dudes are better top to bottom.
The uh I love that they gave the MVP of the Rose Bowl to the center. Yeah. On and the whole offensive line.
And the whole offensive line. That's That's awesome. It was just like Indiana was in control with every single thing that they did. And with with Sig, people have talked about like, is he the best sports hire ever?
I think he is. I think he might be the best. Is he the best hire ever for any job ever done?
I would say Michelangelo when he painted the the Cistine Chapel. I think they nailed that one.
Yeah. Oppenheimer to build the atomic bomb. Okay. Mission accomplished. Ben Mintz.
I was going to say Max, but yeah, Ben M. Maybe Selen Deion singing the Titanic song,
but outside of that, yeah, I I think he goes on the Mount Rushmore of just best hires for any job ever.
They're so so good. And Mendoza is so poised and his I'm now I've been completely converted to his postgame, you know, interviews are mustwatch. I need them because someone uh a fan tweeted me drip balis, great Twitter name by the way. He said Mendoza is like a kid trying to tell you a story. And it's the truth. It just goes and you don't really know where. Yeah.
And he just he's so enthusi like a little kid when my like six-year-old tells me a story, he's so enthusiastic about it, but it also rambles, but it's also enthralling. I I think he does he rambles from time to time, but he definitely has like index cards that he writes up his postgame speech on like before that's probably part of his process like the night before a game. I love it.
Like write down your thoughts because he he came out there and he dropped conglomerate on America. It was he was like we've got such a great conglomerate of guys
in the Hogs on this the Hoggies. We got the best hoggies in the world. I I actually think that Bendo is AI. When you look at him in these postgame speeches and he's staring into the camera into America's soul and he doesn't have a hair on his face. He's just like making perfect eye contact with you. He's being eloquent. He's speaking like you said like a a TED talk. Y
it seems like he's some computer program. He's the best. He's a hologram. I I I am a massive fan of his because he's just he it is I know I I had that one tweet after the Big 10 championship game where I was like I was joking that he would just lost to Heisman, but now it's like he is the quintessential
pure. Why can't we just like someone who's just pure and like goodnatured? Let's not be cynical all the time. He just loves ball. He loves his teammates. He doesn't have so like he he he said he doesn't go on social I think the only social media he goes on during the season is LinkedIn. I'm pretty sure that he said that. I I don't know. Just to update stuff.
He No, he probably reads the posts on LinkedIn. Yeah. And that's where he gets his material for the postgame speeches.
But he's just the he's just the man and he's going to be a very good Yeah, he's got he does have a active LinkedIn uh profile. I don't have LinkedIn so I can't see it, but he's Yeah. student athlete, Indiana University, Bloomington. Process driven and detail oriented leader studying business administration at Indiana's Kelly School of Business. Yeah, this this guy, he goes on LinkedIn, he reads the post from like the Silicon Valley founders that are like, "Here's what I learned about my brain and my body by waking up at 3:30 a.m. every day for a month."
Yeah, he's he's man Indiana's just [ __ ] good. I'm happy for Indiana fans like that. The Rose Bowl was was just packed with them. They total takeover. Also, you mentioned it uh a win for JMU. I think today might have been a win for Wisconsin because Wisconsin only lost Indiana 31 to7.
Yeah, I would agree. And we have no other way to see if Wisconsin was You're better than Bama.
Yeah. Right. As of right now. Well, I mean they they lost 38 to3. Yeah. We lost 31 to7.
I know that you don't play these game. You know the hypothetical game. You don't play it on the field. You play it
on on screen. Yeah. On screen. We have no other way to put 2025 Alabama verse 2025 Wisconsin.
It's 100% correct. You you have to you have to dig and dig and dig and find your cope. And I think that's a good way to do it. Yeah. I think that uh that Indiana is one of the better all-around college football teams I've seen in a long time.
There's Yeah, they're they're nails. They kind of remind me a little bit of uh they're they're not the exact same, but at least how they play like Michigan a couple years ago was one of the best teams I' ever seen in the fact that like remember how they tackled? Yeah. and how they just didn't make mistakes. Yeah. And they just were, it wasn't like they had the most incredible guys, you know, running down the field and and beating you deep, but they just did not make mistakes. They were perfectly sound in every facet of the game. That's what Indiana looks like.
And when their offensive line gets moving in space like a pack of wild dogs, just giant dogs looking for something to hunt, you know that good things are about to happen.
Yeah. Do you think there's a little part of So, Alabama fans obviously are going through it right now. I don't think anyone feels bad for him.
But if you're an Alabama fan, you had your doubts about this team. You had your doubts. Oh, they were not even going back not not just to the start of the season, but also like the SEC championship game, that was that was embarrassing. You knew that you had a deeply flawed team and you beat another deeply flawed team in the playoffs. By the way, teams now through the uh last two seasons when we've had the 12game playoff, uh seven out of the eight buy teams
lost. Indiana is the only buy team that didn't lose. I think they're just stronger than rest. I think Signetti's on that no naps [ __ ]
We should put some context on it. Last year, uh the four buy teams that lost were all underdogs.
That is true. So that cuz I saw that stat floating around and I was like remember Boise and Arizona State were buy teams.
Yep. Oregon was favored. No, they were not. They were not. Ohio State was Oh, no. This year. Yeah.
So, yeah. So, so the only two that have been favored by teams that have been favored that have lost are Georgia that today and Ohio State last night.
Yep. Um the but the other thing I was going to say about Alabama is do you think there's a little part of them the now that we have the final four all of the coaches that are coaching in the final four are Nick Sabin disciples.
Alabama currently has a coach that is not a Nick Sabin disciple. Not a disciple.
His seed is everywhere. And you don't have like Pete Golden coach for Alabama, Kurt Signetti coached under Sabbin. Yep. Dan Lanning under Sabin. Uh Mario Crystalall under Sabin. So it's that's got to hurt a little bit.
You got to get something from that tree. You got to get something from that. Even you know Kirby Smart obviously coached with S. So you got to get something from that tree.
Yeah. You need it. You need it bad. Kaylin Dbor. It's a big tree. There's a lot on that tree.
There's a lot There's a lot of fruit. Yeah. There's a lot that's still ready to be picked, too.
Yeah. So, the the crazy thing was we had we had the Indiana Alabama Rose Bowl that was, you know, a fun game if you're an Indiana fan or bet on Indiana, but otherwise not exactly the most watchable game because Alabama just wasn't in the fight. And it was a lot about Kurt Signetti and what he's done. And then you had in the final game a team that doesn't have a coach or does have a coach but just got him, you know, two weeks ago because Ela Keifin left for LSU
somehow outlasting Georgia in an instant classic. Trinidad Shamblas was out of this world.
He was the best player that I saw all weekend. He was making plays. He He was the king of the no no yes play where you're like, "Holy [ __ ] we're [ __ ] We're [ __ ] We're [ __ ] Oh my god, it's a 20 yard pass." So, so I think that Mendoza, great player, maybe maybe a better player than Trinidad Chamblas, but what they asked Trinidad Chamblas to do was very different from what Mendoza had to do in the game. Yeah. And it was just Trinidad, we're going to hand the ball to Lacy, but we also need you to go out there and just
scramble around the pocket, avoid a few sacks, find a guy downfield, make it work. And he was incredible tonight. Just uh the best player on the field. And I
well maybe co- best player because miss's kicker was incredible. He was very good. Yeah.
I mean that was uh especially with college kickers. We were sitting next to our good friend Ohio State and he was just saying that if he had if Ohio State had that kicker they would have won the Big 10 championship game and probably won against Miami. I
I'll say Trinidad Chamblas maybe not the best player all weekend. I'm going to say that's Mendoza. I think uh champ the most electric player of the weekend for sure and he he's mustwatch TV. Love watching him play out there. Also, I think
I think Miss might be a place where you can win a national championship if if Miss wins the national championship. It would be the funniest outcome possible.
It would also be a a real win-win because Miss would win a national championship for them.
Lane Keifin would get paid a million bucks $2 million. 2 million extra 1 million to win that particular game.
Yeah. 1 million on the way there. But I mean maybe maybe more, isn't it? No, it's it was 250 last week. Oh, yeah. Actually, yeah, it would be 2.5 million. Yeah. So, it's it was 250 last week, 500 to win this game.
750 for semifinals and a million in the natty goes from LSU to to Lane Kein's pockets. I think that you can make the argument that that miss is a better team right now because of what happened with Lane Kein. They're all just
They're all pissed off. It's like Steve Jobs was an orphan. Yeah. And he founded Apple. He He had something to prove.
Pete Golden is doing an incredible job. He is. Yeah. He's doing it all. He did such a good job. I think he got two Gatorade showers.
Yeah. That was the craziest ending. Golden showers. Yeah. I also, if you're a Georgia fan, as you know, as shitty as this probably feels, I feel like you also kind of knew. I mean, Georgia was playing really good football, but I saw I saw Kirby Smart doing a press conference the other day, which I actually liked, where he was like, it's just a winner, it's win it all or nothing mentality now. And that's not how I view success. I view success about getting better every day. That's a coach that knows that maybe he doesn't have a national championship team.
Yeah. He's kind of been like, "Yeah, this is this is a good team, but we'll find out if they're a great team."
Yeah. They haven't been the George of old. I mean, the questions have to be asked. Is the SEC, we saw what happened with Iowa and Fandy. I know I know people in the SEC will obviously say that the the bowl games that aren't the college football playoff don't count, but in the college football playoff,
yet Alabama getting whooped. Old Miss is SEC, but they beat Georgia. It's it's a little I mean, you have two Big 10 teams in the Final Four.
I don't know. ask a question. Is the ACC better than the SEC? The ACC? Yeah, I think yes.
We'll find out. I mean, Miami versus Miss Miami was the fourth place team. Yeah.
Right. What was Miss? Uh, they were third or fourth. Third. Yeah. I mean, the fourth place team from the ACC is in the
Imagine if they had sent their first place team. So, like if they'd sent Duke Yeah.
If we had Duke, UVA, Sun Bowl champion, and Miami. Yeah, that'd be crazy. But it was it was a fun fun, you know, 24 hours.
Also, it's very funny watching uh watching Mendoza after the game and then seeing Diego Pavia all week
and just being like these two guys. Yeah. The these are the two faces of college football.
It it was quite something. Which one are you? Shout out the Iowa social team because that was I mean Diego Pavia also just put it on a tea for him. Oh yeah. He he his his quotes were it was almost looked like it was AI when he had a quote I think with the busing boys being like if you play Iowa all you got to do is score seven to win.
Mhm. That's I love how is that how do you have that quote then lot a lot of people hate Diego Pavia. I I like somebody like him in the sport.
I do too. I think you got to maybe be a little bit better. But it's kind of refreshing when the guy that's not a little bit better then gets his ass kicked by Iowa.
True. I like when a guy talks [ __ ] and then can back it up. That's also fun. But it's also fun when a guy when like a [ __ ] talks a lot of [ __ ] and then gets stomped.
Yeah. So any other storylines from these games? We did we were saying that uh what was what is Pete Herbstreet now?
Pete Herb the director of Snuggles. Yeah, we were we were we were saying that this is another sign of nepotism in America.
He's he's a nepo dog. Yeah. If Pete Herbstreet did not have the last name Herbstreet, do you think he would have been the director of Snuggles?
Imagine all the other snugglier dogs out there that got passed over for the job that'd have to grind their way up as an intern just giving Snuggles on coffee breaks.
I need to screen time. I need someone to take this angle like in, you know, the Atlantic or something.
Yeah, it's a it's a nepotism in in the dog world is not right. He's a neo puppy.
What are you What are you shaking your head? My dog's way more snuggly than this dog.
Yeah, Blake 100%. change his last name to to Herb Street. Nope. See if he can get a See if he can get a director of Snuggles.
Also, my dog's not even my last name. My fiance made it her last name. Wait, so but when you get married, dude,
does your dog take your name? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Or is it going to hyphenate hyphenate?
Hyphenate it. Okay. What else do we have? We have So, we recorded our weekend preview on Wednesday.
And Jerry does talk about Pete Herbsreet. He does. Yeah. He gets into that a lot. He does. So, a couple things that we missed and then I have a couple questions for Zack and Hank. Um, Chris Ave is now out. That sucks.
That sucks for the Bucks. That sucks for Tyler Shuck, but I think Tyler Shuck's so good he's going to find a way. Yeah.
Um, we also had I think the Vi the Packers announced it was officially Clayton Ton. I think we might have said Malik Willis.
I Yeah, we said but we also tossed in Clayton. Clayton Tune. And then we also saw Lamar Jackson kind of put he he directly addressed everything and said he was hurt. He's never quit on his team. His relationship with Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh is good. So he kind of went right at it.
Yeah. But I mean Okay. I I think he said the right things. I think it's different in the fact that I I don't remember a time when he's had to when he's just gone directly at it.
Yeah. Cuz he had the PCL. Remember that? for some of his teammates made some comments like I don't know what what he's doing, what's going on. Uh but yeah, I think he had to at this point speak up about it and he's going to play on Saturday as we all knew.
Uh and then also or Sunday and then uh Diggs Diggs signed with the Packers. Diggs signed with the Packers
and what was that waiver? I think it was waver. I think I think Shfer initially said that he signed with them and then he updated it and said it was a waiver claim which
if it's a waiver claim, that's that's wild because that means that Green Bay has to pay a shitload of money every week
uh for Diggs to be on that team as opposed to just like waiting for him to clear and then giving him a free agent contract.
Yeah. I mean, he's he wasn't great this year. No, I mean in the time he did play,
not a lot of stripper polls in Green Bay. Yeah. Great. Well, he had the year where he had all the
Yeah, he just had interceptions. He had a lot of interceptions. He had a lot of interceptions.
Yeah, but he also got burned. He's a ball hawk. He did, but he had a lot of interceptions.
What do you What are you What are you shaking your head? Interceptions are overrated.
Yes. Agreed. Memes. Oh, yeah. There you go. Memes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Questions for Zach and Hank because again, we did the weekend preview on Wednesday when they were weren't back yet. Uh, Zack, how are you feeling? You We're going to stream on Saturday, so you got to be here.
Yes, sir. How are you feeling about the Bucks? I wish I would had an immediate answer there to make it seem like I feel better about this. I don't feel the best about this
and we just got to see how it goes. Do you think there's a are are you nervous more about the Bucks winning or the the Saints winning?
I don't really want to live in a world where the Saints hit on a quarterback, but you would need the Saints to win. You know that.
Yeah. Also, you're living in it, buddy. Yeah, you are living. You're It's the Shucks world.
Don't deny reality right now. Yeah, he's been shucking [clears throat] a lot. Mhm.
A lot of guys getting shucked. So, which one are you more nervous about? Like, do you have any confidence in the Bucks winning?
I do. So, then do you have confidence in the Shustster? You got to jump aboard the Sh.
Yeah. What are you doing? You You understand what's happening, right? You have to win.
Off record. I think he can win. And I You need No, he's off record. Let him go, Zack. Permission to go off record granted. I appreciate that. Yeah, I do have faith. I do have confidence they can win and and I think the Bucks can win.
Okay, there's a board where they both lose. I don't Max, I agree with you. I agree with you. I don't like that. Zack, get on the shock wagon, baby.
You're going to maybe need him. I know we got to shuck. We need him. I'm I'm I'm hesitant to shuck.
You can't be hesitant to shock. That's how people get hurt. The only way you get into the playoffs is if is if they get shucked up.
Yes, but they could get shucked up without full backing of shucking. But I'm I'm here to shuck. we can if we have to show.
But no, no, but I think you're getting confused here. Okay, that could be also very well true.
So, the confusion I think you're seeing we're seeing here is that you think that this so let's say the Bucks win and then on Sunday you're rooting for Tyler Shuck to not play well but the Saints to win because you're living in denial that Tyler Shuck is somehow not like the next greatest quarterback in the NFL history and he is. I don't want to put myself in a denial situation.
You are though. You're in denial right now. I would like there to be a world where like things go positive.
Have you seen how catchable his ball is? Yeah, it's so catch. I'm going to have to pull up some highlights for you.
He's an He is He's an athlete. In In what world, Zack, do the Saints win that game and Tyler Shuck doesn't play good?
No. I But even if he doesn't play good in that game and they win that game, he still is going to be the best quarterback in the NFC South. I would like for them to win and have a highlight.
Look how catchable that is. Oh my god. This is also a highlight tape. Not fair. This is all 22.
It [ __ ] floats into their hands. It's like a little raindrop. Oh my god. There's velocity on it that you don't even know because it looks so soft.
It's like catching a snowflake on your tongue. Oh, look at him evade pressure like this.
Dot. Quick release. Look at this. The thing just floats up there. Hey. Oh, you want to just put your hands out and have it just fall into your hands? Sure.
Look, that the tight window throws. Could you imagine this guy not winning rookie of the year?
No, he's a rookie of the year. Hands down. Easily. Hands down. All right. So, get get on the Shucks train cuz you're going to need him if you win on Saturday.
I need I need the Saints to win, but we can't. Are we drinking too much of the Shuck?
No. No. Not enough. I had to ask. I had to ask. I actually would like to waterboard you with Tyler Shuck highlights.
I'm I'm currently doing it. Yeah, I had it up right now. All right. Hey Hank, my question for you. Everything good?
Everything's great. Yeah, I missed you guys. Yeah, but everything good? Yeah, everything's great.
Okay, what's what's going on? I don't know what's going on uh weird. Why don't you give some context to the people?
There was there was there was some some reports that came out uh about accusations made against some Patriots players.
Uh Stefon Diggs, Bear Moore. I the statements from the Patriots are interesting because they like they were like we we trust Stefon Diggs and with the other one they were kind of like we're just going to let this play out. Legal due process. It was from August.
Yeah. The Barmore one was Yeah. from from a while ago, but it came out this last week.
Robert Craft and the Patriots are a solid organization. I think that [clears throat] if they have a player that's in legal trouble, um, they would immediately do the right thing if there was any merit to it,
right? Yeah. I mean, I I I I'm not going to speak on an ongoing legal situation. I think you got to just let it play out. And if that's what we do, like every day, that's true. Yeah. Like there, you know, you got to take the appropriate action.
Are you worried at all that this might be a distraction? I'm not worried at all. I think in these situations, especially with a guy like Varel, it can almost help kind of galvanize of like there's outside distractions. We need to just focus on what's inside the building and what's in front of us.
We should say too on the positive side, congratulations. It it feels like Drake May is going to win the MVP.
It does. It It definitely feels that way. Yeah. Matthew Safford's Monday night performance kind of submitted it.
Yeah. And third place in the division. I don't think MVPs like there's been MVPs that finished that low in the division. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's Drake's.
Are you and it's it's welld deserved. Do you care at all about Sunday's game? Because the the Chargers are not playing anyone.
So, the Broncos should win. Yeah. But the Chargers, the thing about the Chargers is they are a ball club. Like top to bottom
starters and backups. When you have a coach like Jim Harbaugh, as I've kind of learned from you guys, like if you're a ball club, it's not just the starters,
it's the whole team. That goes all the way down to like the equipment managers all keepers.
No, you don't need to play. I I think they can still win. I'm I'm holding out hope. So, yes, I I am focused on, you know, winning against the Dolphins and and I believe in in the Chargers.
Well, I think you got to win anyway because the Jags, if they win, could jump you.
Yeah. So, you don't want that. Are you concerned at all with uh with Quinners? No. No, the do I mean the Dolphins always like the the the end of season games against the Dolphins are always weird with the Patriots. They always have been going back to the Brady era. So I am not overlooking the Dolphins in the way I would like the Jets. But
so yeah, I'm a little concerned. I think I think you know especially with all the ongoing stuff outside of the locker room like they got to they got to extra focus and and get it done this week.
Mhm. But I believe in the Chargers. They're a ball club. Yeah, they're an absolute ball.
Dig should get engaged. He He should actually get engaged right now as like a PR thing.
New Leaf. Maybe after the game. Maybe after the game. Taking It It was fun listening to the podcast
and hearing you say that before Max interrupted. I was like, "What is he talking about?" Like I was getting so mad. I kind of had the feeling of of listeners when we just say stuff that's not true before it gets corrected.
When have we ever done that? If it doesn't get corrected cuz I was like, "No, we didn't." I got I was like, "What is he talking about?" Did you see the picture?
I did see the picture, but I I I didn't It was one picture and one tweet. Like, I I looked
multiple tweets. Multiple tweets. Yeah. Uh Hank, did you know that uh Diggs, if he gets 30 yards on Sunday, he gets a,000 for the season and he would make 500 grand in contract incentives. Pretty cool.
That is cool. Do you think we should bet on that? Yeah, I think it's a good bet. I think Dre May he likes to He likes to spread it out. He takes care of his guys.
Okay. If he won 500 grand, do you think what kind of like meals would you get with that?
Probably get a lot of meals like a chef. I think you would get two two chefs. Mhm.
Do you think it's disrespectful that teams are trying to get the seventh seed? Is that officially something that's happening?
I don't know. I just looked I just this this one person said this. It's a good question.
Well, Bills and Chargers both resting starters. He's charged. Josh Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are both injured.
They're They could be trying to get the seven seed. Do you think so? I don't bring it on. I'm just That's
bring it on. I don't know if that's the guiltyest charge podcast said they're they're aiming for the seven seed.
I don't I feel like it's more that Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are both injured.
What would you So you don't trust the guilty charge? I I listen I like the guilty charged guys. I just don't I I don't know. I I guess I don't know. Maybe they brought up a good point. I have no idea.
I think that I just don't It also happens to be that both of the quarterbacks are dealing with injuries.
If you've watched Justin Herbert over the last month or so and just seen the the abuse that he's taken, I think it's probably a good move to rest him up for a little bit. But I far be it for me to disagree with guilty is charge.
So how would the how would it work out if we play the Chargers? You would play the Chargers
ball club. If the Bills win and the Broncos lose or the Broncos win, you'd play the Chargers.
I'm like, it's pretty I feel like we're going to play the Chargers. That's You don't think the Bills with Mr. Biscy can can't beat?
Yeah. What are you talking about? If the Bills beat the Jets and the Chargers lose, we play the Bills.
Uh, yeah. Wait, hold on. Let me look. No, if the I'm looking right now. Hold on. I'm looking it up. I got the Jaguars winning. I got
Right now, the Bills are the seven seed. The Bills. Yeah. If the Chargers lose and the Bills win.
Mhm. The Bills would go to Yeah. the six seed. If both lose, the Bills would be the seven seed. What are you rooting for? You're rooting to play the Chargers.
Yeah. Duh. Duh. So, they want you and you want them. I want That does sound like Yeah. mutually agreed upon.
Yeah. I would Yeah. I'd rather I'd rather play the ball club than the Bills. Okay.
You don't think Bills are ball club? No, I do. Bills are good. It would really be sick if they did
Justin Herbert. If they did the seedings by, you know, you get the the the conference winners get
a home playoff game. Yeah. And then we just do a draft of who like the Patriots literally come out and say we want to play the Chargers. Is there any way for the
That would be so sick. I think every team would just be like Steelers. Yeah. No, no, the Steelers. No, no, because the they would have a home playoff
as a division champion. Yeah. Yeah. So, the division champs get to call out someone.
Yeah. From either conference. People have had this idea before, but it would be very fun
cuz you have to win. Instant bull bulletin board. Yeah. Got it. Okay. So, you're going to get the Chargers.
Unless I don't know, man. Unless the Jets somehow win. I think the Patriots lose and the Jags win or the Chargers win.
This is why they play the games, boys. There's so much going on. Then if the Broncos and Patriots lose, Jaguars one seed.
Yeah. Yeah, that would be crazy. That would be crazy. That would be nuts. Okay, we got anything else before we get to our weekend preview?
You guys got any resolutions? Yep. Zipline. Oh, you're going to try to zipline?
I just want to zipline more. I've never ziplined, so just got to do it once. So, more than one more than zero times.
Yeah. I'm not Whoa. Whoa. What are you looking at me like that for, Max? I'm not talking about like the Amazon zip lines. I'm talking about like Wisconsin Dells just go from like one end of a warehouse to another.
Oh, you're talking about like an indoor like trampoline park that has a zipline into a foam.
Dude, easy. Okay. I haven't done it. I would like to do it. Is that not a good New Year's resolution?
That's good. It's attainable. Why a zipline? I I think my resolution is I I want to be a happy birthday guy.
Like a guy that remembers people's birthdays and sends the text. It's like, "Hey, happy birthday." Mhm.
I'm one for one so far. Okay. I hit him Stanford Steve. Oh, his birthday today.
I think it was the 31st of December. So that doesn't even That's last year. That's
But I think I But I think I texted him a day late. So you're 0 for one. So you're 0 for one. You missed it on both.
Yeah, you missed it. No, I think I It counts as the text was sent in the new year.
But you missed his birthday. You forgot you you forgot his birthday. Wait, let me see.
You forgot his birthday. So it's e there's no no plus side to this. I texted him yesterday. So I It was last year.
Last year. You haven't done it yet. You're not one for one. But that's my Have you ziplined yet?
No. I said it's my New Year's resolution. I didn't say I'm one for one. Mine is to become a happy birthday.
But you just said you're one for one. I was practicing. I was Okay. I was I was one for 365. So we've been dieting this week. You're ready to go. I'm hot right now. You're going to get You're Yeah.
You're just putting some Wait, wait, wait. Let me see whose birthday has a birthday on January 1st. LeBron's birthday was yesterday.
Yeah, I already I already did my one for yesterday. Ice Spice, shout out Ice Spice. Happy birthday, baby. January 1st.
Well, she's going to be listening to this on the second. Text her. Yeah, you need to get someone on the second.
You got to text them. I'm telling I But I'm doing it on the first, right? But she's not going to hear it till the second.
That's fine. I'll do two. No. Do someone's shouting out on a podcast. A little pretentious, too. Like
No, I think that counts. You got to find someone on the second. No. All right. Uh, who we got?
These are people. How the the famous birthdays Fernando Tatis Jr. Okay. Fernando Tatis.
Let's go. Tay Diggs. Happy birthday, Fernando. Gooding. Fernando. Dak Shepard is a podcast guy.
It's his birthday on January 2nd. Competition. I don't want to drive. What's your guys New Year's resolutions?
I want to do jiu-jitsu. What? Missoula. Yeah. I mean, I I I've told Missoula, you're just becoming Chef Donnie
for a couple years. You and Chef Donnie are just slowly slowly becoming one and the same.
I don't think I'm going to like doing it and I don't think I'm going to like do it. We'll see.
I've just told him that I'm going to try it. Chef Donnie does do it. That that is part of it more just cuz he's like, you know, it's it would be easy for me. He's got a place to go to. So, it's not like I have to find a place and go alone. But yeah, I I I told them I'd do it and I I want to do it this year.
Okay. Do you think the jiu-jitsu is going to interfere with your your golf schedule?
It's winter. What if you get injured? That is a concern. Yeah, that's a major concern.
What about the guys in the booth? We got any New Year's resolutions? We are on a diet.
Cycling. Oh, cycling classes. You need to get in a skintight Lance Armstrong suit.
Yep. Nope. You look good. But yeah, I took one cycling class this week and I was dreading it. And then by the end of it, I was like, "This is this isn't so bad. This is like good."
Were you going fast enough? Yeah. No, I I was Me and Ebo did it. I think he burned a little bit more calories than me, but we we were in the in the same
You guys can cycle together, but me and Chef Johnny can't go to jiu-jitsu together.
I didn't say that you can't. I just said that you are. You're turning into Ebo, Max.
Yeah. Yeah. Good. I would love I He's got a great body. Yeah. Ebo's a skinny guy.
Yeah. I would have to get shorter. I You were I was about to say it. You were say I was about to say it.
Max, we'll get you going on on a Pelaton. We'll do Buns of Anarchy. No, I like I'm in I'm an Inerson guy.
Okay. Evo doesn't do Pelon. Yeah. Sorry for trying to help. Yeah. What about you, Zach?
Um I'm thinking about trying to become a little bilingual this year. I would like to try to learn Spanish.
Damn, you guys are really showing me up. I just was going to get on a [ __ ] zipline at like a kids park.
That takes balls. We got jiu-jitsu and bilingual. Well, yours is it's like yours is actually going to happen,
right? That's I like to do New Year's resolutions. I remember a few years ago I did a New Year's resolution to drink more apple juice. I had apple juice like three times. Crushed it. That was it. You got to do things that are attainable.
Last year I did bake bread. I think I I did I baked two things of bread and you're going to make sandwiches all the time. You never did.
Well, the deli slicer is so hard to clean that it's just not worth it. All right. So bilingual what language?
Uh I would like to I would like to be dangerous enough to communicate in Spanish.
Dangerous just cuz like I'm thinking about like eventually in life I should get a passport and maybe go somewhere in Spanish is the utility on learning Spanish is so it's so much utility.
Yeah it is. Okay. So you going to take courses? Are you going to listen to to podcast or what do
YouTube is saying download a lot of apps? Dualingo. He's just going to [ __ ] play Call of Duty with Spanish dudes.
Yeah. Set reset your server. I could do Yeah, that be funny. just talk [ __ ] in Spanish.
Yeah. Also, January 3rd, happy birthday to two of my favorites, Mel Gibson and Greta Thurberg. What a dynamic duo.
But again, if they listen to this January 2nd, [clears throat] happy birthday in advance. Take this day for yourselves, guys.
Memes, what do you got? I'm going to become a winner. Oh, yeah. Georgia, you are a Georgia fan.
I'm over over one right now. Yeah. So, how we I should have come to you for this game. That was that was tough.
It's okay. Would you have any thoughts on it? You did you see that Kirby press conference I referenced?
I did not. Oh. Where he was talking about like success and No, everything was out uh right in front of him. I thought the script was leaning towards Georgia. Win this game. Go play Carson Beck then go play Dan Lanning. Old DC. Unfortunately, Chamblas turned into Joe Burrow.
Yeah. Yeah. stuff from last year. All right. Wait, do show more. Hold on. I want to hear him. But show more. I want to read the quote.
Yeah. So, he said, um, some coaches get the most out of their teams and don't win the national championship and that's a hell of a year. We used to be able to credit a lot of people for a hell of a year. Unfortunately, it's gotten to win it all or nothing. I don't evaluate our success that way. That's a quote from a guy who's like, "Hey, just so everyone knows, we might not be winning at all this year."
Yeah, if you're if you're dropping that. Yeah, I know what you're saying. But he did have the defense playing incredible like towards the end of the season and then they just had a month off.
Yeah. No, I I I'm not saying that Georgia couldn't have. I mean, they they could have won it all this year. They were they were a very good team. I I think Kirby Smart when he won backto-back national championships might not have had the same quote cuz he had the war machine.
Yeah. They don't they don't got the guys on defense. But he was have having them play at a very high level towards the end of the season.
Yeah. He said it in that um what was it before the fourth quarter? He's like, "We got to play with more violence. We don't play with it. We're not playing with enough violence."
Yeah. And that was the first game they lost out of 76 when they had a fourth quarter lead.
Wow. Yeah. That's pretty crazy. Got chamblas. They did. Yeah. They have a formula. Unfortunately, they got chandel.
Yeah. Uh, what were our New Year's resolutions last year? Big cat. Become a regular at a dive bar.
Didn't do that. I got to do that. Read one Michael Lewis book. Didn't do that. Got to do that.
Hank, get a physical. I did do that. Okay. Go to the dentist. I did do that at the very end of the year because I had a cavity which and I now have to get like a not major oral surgery, but I have to get like a significant oral surgery probably because I waited so long to go to the dentist. But I did go to the dentist.
You got a root canal coming? Uh I have to Oh, I also have my wisdom teeth are coming in apparently. Uh I have
shout out to AJ Brown, by the way, for just getting his wisdom teeth out week 18.
Yeah, I have a problem with a tooth that has a root canal. So they have to like
you have to go to a specialist. Specialist can only do Thursdays and Saturdays.
Well, no, it's on a tooth that already has a root canal. He got the root canal done and then that root canal now is no good. Yeah. Yeah.
Uh, so I have to go to the specialist. They're trying to schedule it and it's like, oh, Thursday or Saturday. And I I literally had to say I have to wait until Sunday to see like when the Patriots are playing.
Mhm. And I it was a weird text to send to basically like I've never even talked to this person in real life. I was just texting the
front desk or whatever. And that was that I was like, I'll let you know on Monday, but I have to see some work scheduling. I think just the Patriots.
That's that's a reasonable accommodation. Uh, PFT. Drink more water. Yeah. Six-pack by the summer.
Uh, you had a six-pack this summer. The the back the back through that. Get Well, you definitely drank a six-pack.
I drank many six-packs this summer. Yeah. Get new planes on the flight simulator.
Did that? Yeah. Picked up the F-15E Strike Eagle. That thing's a [ __ ] missile truck.
Max, lose weight. Gained weight. Learn how to bake bread. I you tried. You You Donnie baked bread and you just
If you watched any of those videos, Donnie didn't even show up half the time. I didn't.
So, would you Did you learn how to bake bread? No. Okay. By the way, I'm counting my New Year's resolutions. Even though those ones listed did not hit, I'm counting as check mark on all my New Year's resolutions. I got an ice cream machine.
That was like a life goal resolution. Yeah. Memes. Go to a doctor. I went to a dentist.
No, that's a doctor. It is. Yeah. And get at least two more TVs. Oh, yeah. You I ONLY GOT ONE.
OH, NO. OH, MEMES. Uh Shane's was to try an Apple. Okay. And learn Italian. Okay.
And Pugs was play NFL Blitz more and cook for himself more. Okay. I don't think he that blitz machine doesn't get used.
Pug uses it sometimes, though. Pug definitely uses it. Yeah. In addition to the zipline, I'm going to become a I'm going to try to become an ice bath guy.
Okay. Love that. Notice I said try to become. Yeah. I'm not going to commit myself to becoming one because I might be a [ __ ]
Yeah. The ice bath sounds really good until you actually do the ice bath. But if I can do it and I become one, I'm basically Navy Seal.
Mhm. So that's what's at stake here. [ __ ] or Navy Seal? We will find out. I'm excited.
Cast your bets now. Yeah. Okay. Let's let's let's crush 2026. Huh? We're all going to get jacked up. We're going to get skinny.
I'm just going to get less fat. I just I just I don't I just got to eat less fat.
Oh, I'm going to get I I have my my doctor's appointment to see if I can get on TRT. So, that's coming up. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I wouldn't mind if we all just did it together.
I don't think I'm going to do TRT, but Okay. Wait till you see how [ __ ] ripped I become.
I would I might just leave this podcast for the Navy. I will say though that that spending the entire day at the office January 1st on a new diet and we did like a Super Bowl cuz it's a football day.
Mhm. It's hard. It's It's very difficult. You talk about temptations around every corner while you're at the office. I walk one way. There's seven pizzas.
I I turn around and there's an ice cream machine and there's wings. There's wings and there's candy
and there's Chinese food. We just got to get ourselves canes. I did. I held out.
I did too. I had four wings. Like six. But that wasn't that many. And one slice of pizza and a little pizza.
10 wings and one ice cream cone. But I also walked on the treadmill. It was a small It was a small cone though right?
Yeah, it was a small cone. Okay, before we get to our week 18 picks and preview, DraftKings, the stage is set. The college football playoffs are here. Every snap, every drive, every touchdown. DraftKings Sportsbook, the number one sports book for live betting puts you right at the center of the action. From real-time wagers to season ending thrillers, DraftKings keeps you in the game from kickoff to the final whistle. New customers bet just $5. If your bet wins, you'll get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code take. That's code take to turn five bucks into 200 in bonus bets if your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings. The crown is yours. Are we going to do a quick touchdown parlay? We got to do one, right?
Yep. Yep. All right. Afternoon games. I think we got to throw I'll I'll throw one out there. I think they play in the afternoon. Trey McBride scores every week. I feel like he's still trying.
You like that? I like it. Trey McBride. What do you got, Hank? Anything? We got to do Ravens Steelers, too.
Someone on the Bills. Someone on the Bills. What about Hunter Henry? Oh. Oh, James Cook. Remember talking about him getting the rushing title?
I feel like maybe we throw him in there. I like that. And then what about you? Well, should we do a Steelers Ravens?
We could do one in the night game. I You like Hunter Henry? We could throw Hunter Henry in there.
Steelers Ravens. I'm going to go. What about Z Flowers? Okay. Hank, do you want to do Hunter Henry instead of Trey McBride?
No, I can do Trevor McBride. Okay. So, Trey McBride, James Cook, Z Flowers. Or should we just We could just go chalk and go Dererick Henry.
Oh, he's got a sneeze. Is that sneeze or toothach? He's got a sneeze. Toothach.
I'm good. I'm good. No. Passed. Does sneezing hurt your tooth? No. That's good. What should we do? Should we do Derk Henry?
Booth, you you make the call. We need help from the booth. Derenry win the Let's go. Let's go.
Z Flowers. Which one? I Dererick Henry. All right. So, Dererick Henry, Trey McBride, James Cook.
Love it. Okay. And then, uh, so we'll have that up there for the people. Max is going to put it out there right now. Let's see what it ends up being.
McBride's not out. Yeah. Okay. So, then do Hunter Henry. There we go. Decisions made.
We got two Henry's. Two Henry's. Lovely. Oh, wow. There's one a righty, one a lefty.
Is there a third one we could get? This isn't out yeti. I feel like Is there another Henry? Search for another Henry.
This is important. Oh, the Henry parlay would be incredible. Hunter. Yeah, that would be the Henry dog.
Derrick Henry. Can we do Hunter Henry and Dererick Henry score two? The Henry dog.
That would be in insane. Actually, not not that Dererick. Not Dererick Henry. Yeah.
Hunter. All right. Well, we'll have it up there. Uh before we do week 18, it is brought to you by Uber Eats. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eatats, reminding fans that if football coincidentally makes you hungry, you can get game day deals on wings, burgers, beers, chips, and more all season long on Uber Eats, you'll love being able to get all your personal favorite game day foods delivered on Uber Eats so you never miss a play. Boys, are we doing Super Bowl Sunday? We got to do We got Let's do clean Saturday. Super Bowl Sunday.
Mhm. Yes. Flip it. What? Well, I'm probably not going to be there on Saturday, so clean Saturday. Oh, or clean Sunday.
Okay. Well, let's do clean Saturday. Super Bowl Sunday. You agree? PFT. I'm trying to be good.
Why don't we do double clean? Okay. Double clean. We'll double clean it up. We could do uh maybe some bowls.
Let's get steaks. Let's get Donnie to make us steaks. Let's eat some steak dinners.
That would be awesome. Okay. All right. We'll get Uber Eats steaks here. He'll cook for us.
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mean a lot. Mean a lot of stuff. Mean a lot. Saturday we have two games that mean a lot.
We have the potentially the Saints Falcons game meaning a lot. There's some seating in the NFC that still can happen. There's obviously Sunday Night Football which will mean a lot.
Um but yeah, it's it's we we have all of our playoff teams that you know outside of obviously the AFC North and NFC South, the other six spots are already set. I'm excited though. There's still some good games and we got to figure out incentives. We got to get some because it is the last slate. You got to enjoy the last Sunday slate. I know that there's a lot of games are like, "Oh, [ __ ] this game. Who's going to try? I'm going to try. I'm going to try and and win some bets."
Yeah. There's there's going to be a lot of stuff that comes out as the week goes on and on and on where we find out who's playing, who's not.
Yes. And there's some teams that don't have anything to play for that it it sounds like they're going to play everybody, right?
Cuz it's football, right? And that's what you do in football. You try to win games. Yeah. Okay. So, let's get into it. Saturday, Panthers at Bucks. Bucks are minus two and a half. Overunders 43 and a half. The Panthers, if they win, it's a it's a t-shirt and hat game. They're in. If the Bucks win, there will not be not be t-shirts and hats in the locker room because they then need Tyler Shuck to beat the Falcons. It's a ridiculous way for this NFC South season to end, but it's also great.
I am uh I think the Panthers are better than the Bucks. I just can't quit Baker Mayfield.
Yeah. So, um the the Panthers have won every other week since week seven. Yes. Which would mean that this would be a winning week for them, but they're also not very good away from home.
They also are undefeated as or sorry, all eight of the Panthers wins this season have come as underdogs. Yep.
So, they they they're not undefeated as underdogs because they've lost games as underdogs, but they all eight of their wins have become come as underdogs. So, they've checked that box. At least they're not favored in this game. I I want to know what happens if the Bucks win this game. Where do they watch the game? Where do they watch the Falcons Saints game? Do they get together as a team? Is it like college football?
Yeah, I think it's college basketball March Madness. They all get together in their jumpsuits and they sit around
in the gym. Yeah, they go in the gym. They watch on the big screen. I would like to see that happen.
Any Bucks players who want to come watch it in the gambling cave and watch Tyler Shuck, listen, we've been we've we've had some good things happen with Tyler Shuck in the gambling cave.
Yeah, the shuckers. So, you're ready to go. We're we're ready. We'll invite anyone who wants to come. I I am weird. [clears throat] I like both these teams have flaws. Obviously, the Bucks winning would obviously I like would give us another meaningful game. So, I think I'm rooting for the Bucks in that in just that reason. It's no it's no Panthers slander. It's just I want another meaningful game on Sunday and I want it to be the Shuck versus the Falcons. I'm fine with whatever the result is there. So, like I'm fine with the Panthers getting in. I just want one more meaningful game.
I think I'm going to bet on the Bucks to win because it it feels like with the home field advantage, uh I think that they're a better team than the Panthers on the road.
But the Bucks suck, man. They sucked for [ __ ] two months now. They do suck. Like how long can we go where we're just like this team just sucks.
So I I I think I'm going to bet on the Buccaneers and then I'm also going to bet on Chuck.
Okay. So like a correlated Bucks to make the playoffs, I So yeah, although I mean all the signs do point to the Panthers winning the Super Bowl with Ohio State, Jennifer Lopez filing for divorce. I I far be it for me to turn my nose up at the universe, but um I think sometimes you just got to go with your gut and I I think overall the Bucks should be a better team.
Yeah. I don't know. Do you think that if the Bucks make the playoffs, even if they limp in, let's say they
No. I'm going to answer your question before you even finish it. No. Well, do you know what I was going to ask?
I don't know. But I'm going to say no. But the answer is no. Because the question was not going to be about if they're going to be dangerous in the playoffs cuz I I don't think that they would be.
Yeah, that's a no. And the reality is you'd rather be the five seed than the four seed in the playoffs. If you look at the history of uh of how those seeds do. Um I think
I think Todd Bulls would save his job if he made the playoffs. That's what I was going to ask. If if they bring him back no matter what, if they make the playoffs, let's say they lose by 10 points in the first round.
I don't know. I think they should get rid of him. He sucks. I agree. But I think
he's he's he's this could be his third straight division title and he's still and he's what he'll be one game over 500.
Yeah. It's insane. You know what's a fun fact is the uh both these teams are two of the teams that have made the playoffs with losing records. Yeah.
I think there's like four or five. Ron Rivera's year. Yeah. Remember he did the press conference after. So we will hit on some incentives and milestones that are that are going on in week 18. I don't think that applies for this game necessarily because it's obviously a very important game. So, they're not like, "Hey, let's just get this guy the ball." But one that I I did see, Sterling Shepard needs one reception for $125,000.
Okay, he'll get that. I feel like Baker's like a teammate that would would do that.
They could figure out a way to make and 29 yards for for another $125,000. So, if you I don't know how many catches what his line is going to be, but I'm going to I'm going to try to figure out a way for him to get one catch.
Yeah. You know how a lot of teams are trying to figure out the best way to handle the new Sam Schwarzene dynamic kickoff?
Yeah. Todd Bullis has just given up on it. Oh yeah, he said that. Yeah. He said Chase McGloin, no matter what, just kick it out of the back of the end zone. That's one less thing I have to worry about.
He's got a lot on his plate. All right, Chase. Insane. Insane that he like a coach would come up and just say like, I can't figure this out.
Yeah. Tell you what, I know they're not going to score a touchdown if you kick it out of the back of the end zone.
Todd Bulls is just like us cuz I still don't know it. I still I still get surprised every now and then. I think there's some teams that that have figured it out though.
Yeah. No, definitely. There's I I saw the whole there was a whole article about it where there's there's teams that are I think it's the Rams kicker maybe who's like perfected the knuckle ball. Remember the game against the Eagles? The Rams Eagles and it was the Eagles just got bad starting position all all afternoon.
That was insane. Yeah, the Rams guy has figured out how to do who's who's the Rams kicker? Mas.
Uh Meas. Yeah, Meas. Yeah, he's figured out the knuckle ball. I think the commanders figured it out, too. There's a there's a strategy behind it, but Todd Bulls is like there's you know what the the probability of them scoring a touchdown is 0% when it goes out of the back of the end zone. So, I don't care where the touchback is. Let's do that.
In in Todd Bull's defense, like he is at a point where it's like, hey, control what you can control. We can't control this.
That's true. Just got to got to got to keep the things simple. Also, he's you know, he's not a young guy. Todd BS, he's been around the league for a while. He if he learns something new, that pushes one thing that he's already learned out of his brain. Yeah. And we can't handle that.
Yeah. Okay. Saturday night. Two really good teams. Seahawks at niners. Niners are one and a half point underdogs. Overunders 47 a half. I'm very, very excited for this game. The Seattle Seahawks, by the way, have lost three games this year by a combined eight points and they've won 13 games by a combined 189 points. They have been very, very dominant. I told you the stat about, you know, the fact that they can even win when when Sam Darnold turns the ball over.
The NerS are playing incredible offensive football. Their defense obviously has a lot of injuries and is has holes. They also are going to play with their for the faithful uniforms which I hate. NerS are in the camp of teams that have classic beautiful uniforms. You close your eyes, you can hear you can hear, you know, summer all Madden calling a Ner's game. Instead, we're going to get weird uh black helmets and black jerseys. I don't like this.
I don't like it in in a game that means this much. Correct. You should be able to decide. You should be able to switch it up the week of if it doesn't feel right because the all black jerseys Saturday night for the division for the one seed.
You should be able to change that. The So, this is such a massive game because it does feel like the winner of this game is going to have they're they will be the favorite to go to the Super Bowl from the NFC. That's a fair statement, right? I think so. They only have to play two games. They get to play at home. they're going to get to play uh the lower seed in this divisional round. They don't have to play, you know, the Bears or the Eagles right away. Like there this feels this feels like a super big swing game in terms of how everything's going to go.
I I think I agree. I think if the Niners get the one seed, I don't know that they would be the odds on favorite uh to to host or to I guess yeah host the Super Bowl because they wouldn't have to leave Santa Clara for the rest of the year. They had going into the Sunday night football game against the Bears if the Niners just won all their games, they'd have five home games in a row.
Yeah. That that never used to happen. We never used to even really be in the conversation of the uh Super Bowl host team will even get to the Super Bowl.
And now it's happened twice. Yeah. The last 5 years it seemed like it's been it's been more way more likely.
Was it Tampa Bay and then the Rams, right? Yeah. The Rams were in they were in SoFi. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So that's that is pretty crazy because it always was like something that you throw out there. Remember when the Eagles and Vikings played before the Super Bowl in Minnesota? Everyone's like, "Whoa, this would be nuts."
Yeah. This This would be nuts. It would be nuts if it happened again. I I need to see if Trent Williams is going to play.
Yeah. Now, they they did pretty good. Their offense looked good against the Bears without Trent.
That is fool's gold because the Bears don't have a pass rush. That is you can't really expect.
And the Seahawks have a great defense. They have one of the best defensive lines in football. So, I feel like missing Trent Williams is going to be a big thing for him. Uh, and their defense is not going to be able to really do anything against Sam Darnold in that offense.
Heat him up. They would have to win a game similar to the game that they played against the Bears. And I don't think that's possible to do against Seattle defense.
Brock Pery since returning from injury, 6-0. He's the number f uh number one in the PFF grades, which I don't really believe in the PFF grades cuz we were joking about it. They have Christian McCaffrey at like 18th running back, which makes no sense.
16 touchdown passes. That's tied for first. 80.8% adjusted completion rate. That's first. So, he's been in the zone, lights out since he returned from injury.
Yeah. I I've gone back and forth in this game. I think I I think I'm going to probably bet the Seahawks.
Do you think the schedule makers got it right? Do you think that putting this game on on Saturday night was the right move?
Cuz it was either going to be uh Ravens Steelers Yeah. or Niner Seahawks? I would have preferred it reversed.
I I agree. I I would have I would have rather had the Ravens Steelers on Saturday night and the Seahawks uh ners to finish the season.
I agree because with the the Ravens Steelers, there's a a very high likelihood that we're looking at like a 14-10 game.
Yeah. I think the reason why cuz I saw some people complaining about it and I understand it. I think the reasoning behind it is the winner of the Ravens Steelers game is hosting a home playoff game. The loser of the Niners Seahawks game has to go on the road. So, they probably wanted to give him an extra day.
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm I'm speaking for America, for the for the television viewer. Y
I think it would have been better if this was Sunday, but that's okay. Agreed. I think that was more just a Lamar.
I like that. I I I like that Ravens that Ravens Steelers Sunday night. But in terms of like that's not going to be an exciting game,
but it's win or go home. Like I think that is excit like I think that there's way more at stake to that game and and it's like such a historic rivalry.
Ready for a hot take? I think there's more at stake for this game. The for the Niners, there is.
No, no. I think the Seahawks, there isn't. I think there's more at stake for this game in the fact that the Ravens and Steelers are not going to win the Super Bowl. The winner of this game is like could very likely win the Super Bowl and it it will increase their chances by a lot.
But for the Niners, yes, for the Seahawks, if you lose, you're the five seed and you and you go to NFC and you go to
Yeah. But then you got I mean just having to play three games. But it's it the five seed is is still a very good path.
It's a good spot to be. Yeah. Yeah. But that's my hot take. My hot take is this is more important for for to win the Super Bowl. This is more important because neither the Ravens or Steelers are going to win the Super Bowl.
But think about like those fan bases like there's way more if if you're a fan of one of those teams. There's way more pressure on that game.
Yeah. And the Niners obviously if they get if they lose they go down to the six, right? Or there's a potent the Rams have to win.
No. The the se Yes. The RA if the Rams win the Niners would go down to the six. So they would have to go to Philadelphia. Yes. Yep.
The the Bears can only play the Rams, Packers, or Niners. I think the Seahawks have to be like the worst they could be is fifth.
Correct. Correct. So it is a swing for the Niners. I I do think that the Niners uniforms, those are better for Saturday.
Yeah, that's true. Those don't feel like Sunday night uniforms. That's true. So at least it is that.
Okay. Sunday we have uh the Saints Falcons game, which hopefully will mean something. Yep.
And we have Tyler Shuck who's been incredible. Most offensive TDs in the fourth quarter of one score games this season. Tyler Shuck is fifth. He's only played six games.
Rookie of the year. No big deal. Tyler Shuck has also turned around that Saints defense, too.
Yep. They're averaging 4.3 yards per play against on defense since Tyler Shuck. That's
that's the second best in the entire NFL. That's what a guy like Shuck does to an entire organiz to an entire city.
Culture guy. Culture guy. guy. Yeah. If I told a Falcons fan in late August, the Falcons defense is going to have 50 plus sacks, Bejian's going to go for 2020 20 uh200 yards, allpurpose yards, Kyle Pitt's going to have a really nice season, Drake London is going to be dominant, and they're going to have a really impactful rookie class. Yeah.
And the division sucks. You'd be like, well, yeah, the Falcons are in the playoffs.
But then if you had said, uh, they also have to play musical chairs with their kicker. Yeah.
Then you'd be like, "Yep, that's that's the Falcons." Because I also said they they are going to lose to the New York Jets and get blown out by the Miami Dolphins.
Yeah, that's a they're a they're a big time what if holy [ __ ] how'd this happen kind of team,
but also beat the Bills and the Rams and the Rams. They're a very strange team. It's crazy.
It really does. The season kind of comes down to week one. Yeah. Young Wu missed that. It was a 44 yard field goal.
Yep. as time expired. He missed it. That was against the Bucks. If they win that game, then we're talking the the Falcons in the playoffs.
Yeah, it's it's the the teams that are on the top of the list of wow, this could have like we were we were right there. And if a couple things go different, it's the Falcons, it's the Vikings, it's the Lions.
Yeah. Those are the teams where I'm like, if you're a fan of one of those teams, you have to be sitting there like that. We're right there.
Yeah. And we we could have Kirk Cousins in the playoffs right now. Kirk Cousins. Should should Kirk Cosins be the starter next year?
Well, I don't think they're going to pay him next year. I think he's done after this season.
Okay. At least in Atlanta. By the way, the Falcons, too. This is a crazy stat. So, um, in the last decade, the Falcons are 53 and 78 in games when they are still playing for a playoff spot. They are 12-4 when mathematically eliminated.
That's interesting. That makes me scared for Shock. They're really good when they're eliminated.
Yeah, they also I saw a stat. I think they're like 13 and three or something in the red helmets.
Why wouldn't you just do that all the time? The red helmets are great. I like those. Uh I still like Shuck. I I got to believe that that Shuck has just com he's changed everything about that locker room.
He has everything about the facility. Something about Shuck. Okay. Browns at Bengals. Bengals are minus 7 and a half. Over 44 and a half. If this is it, this there's two storylines in this game. It's Joe Burrow or sorry, it's Joe Flacco. This might be it.
Yeah, if it's it, we love you forever. And then Miles Garrett, can he get a half a sack?
And it sounds like like Joe Burrow is not designing the entire uh premise of him playing quarterback around preventing Miles Garrett from getting that sack.
Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco is playing. Joe Flacco is playing. Yeah, I believe so. I I actually don't know cuz I saw someone
cuz I I I I saw an interview with Joe Burrow where he said there's going to be some times in the game where taking a sack is the best option.
Oh, so I'm not saying that Joe's Maybe it's Joe Burrow. He's not going to lay down.
Actually, seven and a half means it's Joe Burrow. Yeah, he's not going to lay down for Miles Garrett, but it also sounds like, you know, there were there were a couple plays with the Steelers last week where Rogers took like a a completed pass for a loss of three yards.
Mhm. Over getting sacked. Yeah. And it was in the back of his head. And it doesn't sound like Joe's got that same mindset. So, I feel like I feel like Miles Garrett gets it this week.
Put in Joe Flacco, though, for a little bit. We got to We got to send him off. Yeah, let him throw a deep ball. Yeah, just one last deep ball for the for the people. Packers at Vikings. Vikings minus 7 and a half over under 35 and a half. I don't The Packers are resting everyone. They should.
They're getting the seven seed. Yeah, the Vikings might start JJ McCarthy. Yeah.
Okay. I think they got to see what they got. Yeah, they got to see what they got. Justin Jefferson needs um 53 receiving yards to get to a thousand on the season. So, not a money incentive, but I think that's actually something they're going to try to do. Teammate of the year.
Yeah, teammate of the year. We're getting Malik Willis. He might be a little bit banged up.
He's also might be better. So, it might be the Clayton Tune situation. He might be better than
I mean, again, I don't think he's a better quarterback. No, but he's more fun. And he might be better.
And he might be better. Yeah. Cowboys and Giants. Giants plus three and a half over.
By the way, that would also hit the Vikings win total over for the season. Oh, as much as it seems like a disappointment because they were so good last year.
It was eight and a half. Yeah. Nine and eight. It they they are definitely a whatif team.
Yeah. Cowboys or Giants. Giants need to win memes. That's what you're hoping for.
Yes. It feels like they're going to try to win because they tried really hard to win against the Raiders.
Yeah. And I the Cowboys I I do think the thing I would be nervous about if you are rooting for the Giants to win this game. This does feel like a Dak Prescott George Pickins gets their numbers game.
It might even feel like a Joe Milton. Joe Milton. Joe Milton's going to get in.
He might. Shottenheimer says that he's uh he's mesmerized by his arm. They need to really I week 18 they just everyone complains about week 18. I understand the complaints. We just need to have there needs to be a deadline on Saturday morning and every coach has to be like, "This is our exact plan." Yeah. Because then we could have fun with it. If we're like, "Hey, we know it's going to be Joe Milton in the second half." Great.
Well, there are some guys, too, that that get the start. Like, I'm sure Josh Allen will get the start.
Yeah. Because of his streak. Because of the streak, right? And I don't know if that's like a point of pride for Dak Prescott being like, "Yeah, it's I started this many games." Um, I could see I could see them putting Bazooka Joe in in the second half.
Yeah. By the way, there there was a report that uh the Giants would be interested in Kevin Stfansky if he gets fired.
Okay. There was also a report that the Browns would be interested in Mike McDaniel if he gets fired.
I think the I think the Giants are going to interview everybody. Yeah. I think it's just going to be like open no no bad ideas.
I have a question. This is not about the game. It's about somewhat related. But do you think Eli Manning has fun when they release the Pro Football Hall of Fame uh nominees? I feel like that can't be fun for him because every time they do it, it's just a bunch of people saying Eli Manning was actually a totally average quarterback but won two Super Bowls.
Yeah, but also the the further he gets away from his career when he's doing he's doing all the media right now. I I do think that he's going to get in.
I do too. But I it just it basically opens up every single time for people to bash him and be like actually he was never a top five quarterback.
He was not that good. He just had two incredibly clutch runs. But those were great runs.
I agree. I think he should be in as well. But you see what I'm saying that people [clears throat] just start picking him apart. Whereas like Drew Brees, he's going to be in. Larry Fitzgerald, he's going to be in.
Yeah. I Yeah. There's probably some of that where he's like, I wish people didn't bring up all my interceptions.
Yeah. Right. I wish he Now he's a guy that he kept that streak going for a long time when he probably shouldn't have. Yeah,
when he was his his shoulder was just falling out of the socket. He's like, I can go, coach.
Well, and that was what what did Ben Mcadudu in, right? Putting in Gino. Yep. Okay. Titans at Jaguars. Jaguars are - 12 and a half over under 47 and a half. This game does matter. The Jaguars are playing for the AFC South. They're playing for a home playoff game. They also are alive in seating. So, the Jaguars, it it would be a long stretch for the Dolphins to beat the Patriots and for the Broncos to lose to the backups of the Chargers. But if that happened and the Jaguars won, the Jaguars would be the one seed.
So, if either one of those two team teams lose, the Broncos or the Patriots, and the Jags win, they get they get the number two seed. Yep.
So, yeah, they they've got a lot to play for. I think they're going to the Jaguars aren't at a spot where they can be like, "Yeah, we like what we've got right now. Let's just coast to the playoffs." I feel like it's been such a work in progress this year. They finally gotten to the point where they're they're a very good football team that they're probably they're probably afraid of taking a week off,
right? And I do like I I appreciate teams like the Titans where it doesn't matter who's playing, they're just bad.
Yep. Yep. We just know. Yep. Cam Ward. So, he's thrown for uh over 3,000 yards now. He cracked that last week. That's the first time that the Titans have had a quarterback throw for over 3,000 yards since when? M R B R B R B R B R B R B R B R B R B R Brian Tano
that special 2021 season where they got the one seed just a great team. Mike Frael coach leader of men
uh no one saw the Titans coming that year. They locked up that one seed. Great great season. Uh all on the arm of Ryan Tan Hill.
Yeah. Colts at Texans. Another one that matters because the Texans if they win and the Jaguars lose the Texans would win the AFC South. Texans are minus 10 and a half. Overunder is 38 and a half. the we should figure out a way to do I it would be kind of impossible. But actually, no. What if what if there was flex scheduling in the NFL in terms of opponents, too, where the last two weeks are two divisional games, but we don't know until week 16 because it would be awesome if the Texans and the Jaguars were playing each other this week.
I think I think that's a good idea. I don't know how it work. I I think you might you might get it wrong every now and again because the teams are so close to each other in the division,
right? And obviously week 17 would then impact week 18. Yeah. But it would be cool if you just like the last two games we know we're playing two division opponents. We don't know what order it is.
Yeah. And here's it here. Here's what it is. Now, I don't want this to come out sounding like I'm upset that Shane Stiken brought in Philip Rivers cuz I'm not. I'm not at all. It brought a lot of joy. Sound like you're upset. a lot of brought a lot of joy to America. I I loved watching him play.
He's not going to be playing. He's not going to be starting this week. Yeah. Why did they do that?
Uh why didn't they just have Riley Leonard play? They want to take a look. Well, remember Riley Leonard was a little banged up when they brought in Phil Rivers
a little bit. Yeah. He was I think he couldn't have played that Seahawks game. Yeah.
So that was why they did it and then now they just want to take a look at Riley Leonard.
Okay. But I feel like he probably could have played at some point over the stretch. Again,
he did. He threw heary interception. It was a great Hail Mary. Again, not upset at all if they brought in Philip Rivers, but I'm thinking from like a big picture perspective on the team.
I you'd probably want to see what your young quarterback has rather than do the uh the Philip Rivers carnival, which which was fun.
I love the carnival. I did I did love Philip Rivers saying afterwards talking about meaningless games. This is just a good quote for life. He said, "To say a game is meaningless is not in my DNA." He said, "Those games we played in the backyard and we were 10 years old, they weren't meaningless, right? Nobody gave a riff about those." I like riff instead of [ __ ]
But you went home crying or you went home happy, you know? So there's no such thing. Everything we do matters. I would put a little asterisk next to it and just say everything we do matters except the exhibition for nations tournament.
That's true. Yeah, good point. Everything else though we do matters. Good point. Yeah. Sometimes you just go out there and you just kind of you just fly around. Don't really think about anything, right? I don't even remember that tournament.
I don't either. But I it's a good message because there's a lot of cynicism in the world. There's a lot of people who are like, "Oh, that's lame." No, everything we do matters.
Yeah. This try your hardest at everything you do. It does mean a lot to the Texans to to try to get home field advantage because they're good at home, at least in that first round.
Yep. They're not very good on the road. I think they're 2 and 0 home playoff games. They're 0 and2 on the road.
Okay. So that's with Demo Ryan as a coach. Damiko Ryan's good-look guy. Great looking guy.
Bills Jets. This will be Mitch after Josh Allen starts. Bills minus seven over under 38 and a half.
I don't really know what to make of the Bills by the way. I think we're going to see we're going to see just how valuable Josh Allen is to that team.
Yeah. I mean this game the the Bills probably can win with Mitch, right? Memes. You can't win this game.
Yeah. And it's the last game ever being played in that stadium. That's right. And well, yeah, that's right. Because they don't have a Unless Unless the Texans,
who's going to be the seven seed? Is it going to be the Bills? It's going to be the Chargers. Yeah,
the Chargers. So, I guess there would be one chance if the Bills went to the AFC Championship game and hosted the Chargers right?
Yeah. 67 matchup. 67. I think there's like an outside chance that the Bills could get a home playoff game.
Yeah, they would have to. Yeah. If they win the Chargers lose, okay, probably not going to happen. Memes, I think this is the week.
Interception. I think I think the Jets are going to get an interception this week.
I don't think so. Do you want to go the full season without a pick? Yeah. Why? And then you get one week one.
That's new. Yeah. New beginning. Is Aaron Glenn going to still have a job? I believe so.
Yes. The noise right now is crazy, but I've noticed it that it's starting to ramp up. It it ramped up big time, especially on like New York radio. But then there was finally an adult in the room that spoke up.
Who? Brick. No. Uh no. Oh. Uh. Oh, Baldi. Baldi was just like, "This is not an NFL roster right now." So, that should give you the perspective that this team sucks. They showed that they were competitive uh with a bad roster, beating the Falcons, who just beat the Rams.
Yep. You see what you have, you have some pieces in place. All the guys who have quit right now, those guys aren't going to be on the roster. It's going to be a total overhaul of the entire roster. You have 11 draft picks. You got two first round picks. You got two second round picks.
Yep. Go build a roster. Forget about this season. Move on. Now, do you trust the guy that's going to be there to build the roster?
I tr I I do like the GM they have, Darren Muji. Okay. All right. Memes. didn't bring this up on Monday's show because I thought it was a mean insult stat and I I I didn't want to twist the knife too much on the Jets. Uh but then I told you after the show and you said, "No, you should bring this up. You should talk about it. It's a good stat." So, I'm going to bring it up and talk about it. Um the quarterbacks that play against the Jets this season, they've quietly a as a whole as their own separate unit put up an MVP season. M
they've got 32 touchdowns, zero interceptions, 7.4 yards per attempt, and they've gone 13 and three. That's every quarterback in the NFL that's played against the Jets this year.
That's pretty damn good. It's a pretty good year for those quarterbacks. That's incredible.
Yeah. No, they they played a lot of good quarterbacks. was going through their schedule like we Max would make fun of you last year because Jane Daniels didn't play any quarterbacks.
I was trying to find if the Jets lost to any bad quarterbacks. They didn't. They played all good quarterbacks this year. So going into next year, they just needed a defensive coordinator and a quarterback and I think I think we're fine.
Who's the worst quarterback that you guys have lost to? When you say fine, what is that?
Competitive competitive football. I just want to watch competitive football. Yep. Uh, the worst quarterback we'd lost to
Did you lose Young? Maybe. Did you lose to Spencer Rattler? No, we lost Ty Shuck.
Oh, well that that I mean that's that's probably the best quarterback you lost to right?
Well, Jet schedule. The Jets. They played Tua. Maybe Tua is undefeated against Jets.
Two. Yeah, Tua might be the answer though to that. You beat you beat Joe Flacco. You beat the Browns.
Yeah, I think it's probably it's probably two. I think people need to start talking about how unfair this schedule was to the Jets. You guys played an MVP quarterback every single week.
Yeah. No, you're right. It's facts. By the way, something to look out for in this game when we're talking about incentives and everything that's going on, Shawn McDermott did say when asked about James Cook in position to win the rushing title. That's definitely on my mind. H. So, right now, James Cook is 50ish yards, 40 yards, 40 47 yards to be exact, ahead of Jonathan Taylor. and he is 200 yards ahead of Derrick Henry who's in third. So, it's essentially a two-man race. James Cook versus Jonathan Taylor. And it's on Shawn McDermott's mind.
I like that. And they're also wearing the the sick red helmets, too. Yeah. Okay. Afternoon. Lions at Bears. Bears minus two and a half over under 50 and a half. I believe the Bears are going to be playing everyone who's healthy. This is a a double revenge game. So, it's revenge for Ben Johnson after the loss to the Lions in week two when the Lions kind of ran it up.
And then it feels like a revenge for Dan Campbell because the story all year has been Dan Campbell's Ben Johnson merchant
and he is potentially going to raid the entire Bears coaching staff in the offseason.
Yeah. Is he allowed to do that? I well I think you can it's the old like you can give guys like Al Harris is probably gonna get a defensive coordinator job some might do that
some guys are gonna get like associate head coach Doyle could become the offensive coordinator for line like I don't I don't know what exactly that entails Al Harris is the name that a lot of people are talking
I always love it when when coaches get like a a quarterback coach but they also make him associate head coach.
Yes. Even though he's not a coordinator yet. Uh I think that Dan Campbell's going to be playing everybody.
Yeah. I think I don't think he's taking his foot off the gas. He said, "I think if guys can't go because of injury, next guy up will go. Young or old, young or veteran, next best guy available." So, it sounds like they're going to be treating this like it's a real game.
Now, so I I I the Bears should treat it like a real game because getting the two seed is is important. I I believe um having that chance for an extra home game, having a chance to play the seven seed, like these are important things. the I do think Ben Johnson's going to try to get Caleb Williams to 4,000 yards. I I just think that's something that's important. That's it's like a [ __ ] you to everyone. I did it in my first year. We did it.
Uh and I do think I'm a little nervous for this game because the Lions big issue has been blocking for Jared Goff and the Bears cannot get a pass rush whatsoever.
So that makes me nervous. Now, also, if the Lions lose this game, they could get fourth place,
which is not Yeah. which is three games different, which is three games different, but it's still I mean, if you look at the the stats, the teams that play the fourth place schedule, they they tend to do better.
Actually, I think if they win this game, they can also get fourth place if the Vikings win.
So, if it's a double win, because they lost to the Vikings twice. So, the Vikings would definitely have the tiebreaker over them. They're both eight and eight right now.
So, the Lions are going to try they're going to try really hard. I I I I don't I don't think Dan Campbell has it in his DNA to do anything different.
I don't think so either. I think that this is he's not a guy that's going to arrest anybody. You're going to get the full lines experience.
Yeah. Okay. So, uh but I do think I if you if you're looking to bet something, I do I do think that they're going to make it an effort to try to get to the 4,000 yard mark. He said uh Ben Johnson on getting to 4,000 yards. If it were to happen, that would be great. But he would agree with me. Our number one objective is to win this ball game. I think he then winked after. He didn't actually win.
And you're okay. You're not you're not a little bit scared of having Green Bay come to Chicago.
Oh, I'm definitely I'm definitely scared in the fact I think the Bears are better than the Packers. I'm scared in the fact that if the Bears lose to the Packers, this entire season is like you look back and you're like, "That wasn't fun.
That loss would hurt. It wipes out fun. That loss would hurt a lot more." It it the big picture means absolutely nothing cuz it's like big picture Ben Johnson, Kale Williams, I think are going to be incredible going forward. But in terms of the 2025 Chicago Bears that has been such a fun ride, that would no longer be the case.
It would kind of make the offseason painful instead of happy. Yeah. Oh yeah. And it would just be it would just be like Yeah. That was that was awesome until the Packers and then Packers fans would get to say same old Bears and Bears suck and all you know all that stuff.
Yeah. So it would be the Rams, right? You could end up playing the Rams. We could play the Rams or the 49ers.
Or the 49ers. And if either one of those two teams beat you in Chicago, it'd be like great season.
We're a year away. bad outcome. We made the playoffs. It feels like we're even like a year ahead of schedule from where we thought we'd be. But if the Packers do it, then it's like this [ __ ] sucks again.
Yeah. And the the Bears have not had a lead on the Packers this year. That's interesting.
So that's I mean it's it's scary proposition and the Packers are resting everyone.
Who would you rather play, Malik Willis or Love? Probably Jordan Love. Yeah, Malik Will is so good.
He's really good. He's so good. He's so good. I would something about Malik Willis.
I I do think that uh yeah, I mean Caleb's been lights out. He's been everything has gotten better throughout the course of the year. All if you look at all the advanced numbers and and you know his arm that that throw I think I've watched that throw to to Coulson Lovelin a million times where it's just an absolute 50 yard frozen rope that just got there in two seconds.
There have been a couple of those throws. Yeah, the Luther Burden one as well. Okay. And one last thing about the Bears, I love Ben Johnson so much. His accountability is so refreshing where, you know, like a guy like Eberloose would always just fumble his way through a press conference, blame the players, blame execution. Ben Johnson essentially said the last play of the game against the 49ers, he screwed up not getting it in fast enough.
And he said that the field goal drive when they had first and 10, first and goal on the 10, he was asked directly like, "Do you think you should have run the ball more?" where he's like, "Yeah, I hated what I did there. I got to look I got to look at what I did and I I I have to do better. I have to call a better game in those spots."
Yeah. Again, I think with Ben Johnson, at least you have a coach that thinks everything through.
And he's accountable. He's saying like, "Yeah, I didn't do a good like I got to put our team not, oh, our team, you know, execution was bad or this or that." He's like, "No, I I have to do a better job."
Yeah. And I love that. Yep. Um Okay. Chargers at Broncos. Broncos minus 12 and a half. Overunders 37 and a half. Chargers are not playing anyone, which is the smart move. Broncos obviously need to win to get the one seed. Is there a chance Tre Lance is going to start?
Yeah, we might see DJ. We might see DJ. We might see DJ. Do you know the last time Trey Lance threw a touchdown pass?
North Dakota State. No, no, it's his rookie year. Oh, okay. His rookie year. 2021. Uh, and he's started a couple times. He's attempted 85 passes since then. Uh but he he could be benched for DJ UGL.
Yep. Uh I need Jake to remind me how to pronounce that. Who was my 1-1 pick after that Notre Dame Clemson game in co.
Yeah, he was so good. He was He just looked like a bulldozer. I was like that guy. It It is pretty crazy to think about the 49ers and how good they are. Obviously last year they had a bad year, but how good they are year in and year out and they burned was it the third overall pick on Tre Lance.
They tra they traded up for him. Yeah. Right. Like think about that. They basically made it as hard as possible like, hey, we have a the top three pick and we're going to we're going to draft a guy who never was good.
If any of the other 32 or 31 teams besides the Niners had taken Brock Py in that draft, I don't know that John Lynch still has a job.
Yeah. And I don't know. I mean, let's see. who was the I believe he was the third overall pick. Yeah, I mean Brock Party I guess makes up for that, but it it's nuts to like uh taking a third overall pick that is a that is not good that quickly is a like ruins a franchise
and and we don't really talk about Trey Lance being a bust because of that because they've been the Niners were fine.
Yeah, I think it's cuz we just didn't see enough of him in college. Like if he had been at a a power four school and won a big bowl game.
Well, he did beat JMU in the national championship. Ah, yeah. That is a big That's big. What did you guys think about the Chargers posting a picture of Drew Brees saying close to Canton uh in a in a Chargers uniform?
I guess you got to get those clicks in. Stolen valor. I I think they might have known what they were doing trying to get the engagement. They're like people people are going to be so pissed about this.
Yeah. the the the last thing I had on this game. If you are someone who still thinks Justin Herbert is bad, I saw this stat. Um the final Chargers offensive line rankings ahead of week 18 where they're going to probably rest some guys. ESPN pass block win rate 32nd. ESPN run block win rate 31st. PFF pass blocking efficiency 30th. PFF run blocking grade 32nd. PFF pass blocking grade 31st. He is playing behind the worst offensive line possible and he's still the man.
I just think he's the best that ever was. He He is the best that ever was. God bless you, Justin.
Yeah. So, do you want do you want to retract stupid pick guy? I never said he was a bad quarterback.
Stupid pick guy. That reinforces if you're a good quarterback and you're liable to throw a stupid pick, then you're a big stupid pick guy.
Correct. Like there's a lot of guys that throw stupid picks that aren't big stupid picks guys because they're just bad quarterbacks.
Exactly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Chiefs at Raiders. Raiders are plus five and a half. Over 36 and a half.
Looks like Pete Carol is going to be done. He doesn't know. That's all the reports.
He's had positive conversations. Big cat. He's had a lot of positive conversations with guys in that building.
And how' they go? They went positively. He said, "Anything that can happen, I feel like I've got their support." What does that mean? I don't know. But her conversations has been really good.
There were some conversations. He's been having good conversations with people around the office. So, it would be it'd be shocking to him
if he was fired. I I would not be shocked. I would not be shocked either. I think it's pro I I think it's going to be Tom Brady like learning how to be an owner in real time.
Yeah. Like any any any guy that comes from a successful background, doesn't matter if that background is in software sales, doesn't matter if it's in private equity or just being a good quarterback, they all go through the same process just like we would go through if we owned a team,
which is we try to get a bunch of players that used to be good and coaches that used to be good
build a fantasy team and then we think it's going to work out and it doesn't. And then you realize the mistakes and then you say you're going to take your uh you're going to be more of like a holistic handsoff type owner. Let the football guys make the football choices. Yep.
And then they do that and then you start to meddle again. And then you realize, okay, now I've really learned my lesson. Now I'm just going to go play golf and let everybody else do their job. And that's when you get good at football.
That's when that's when it it's David Temper. Yeah. So right now he is in uh he's Tom Brady's starting phase two of that.
He's he's about to enter phase two. About to enter phase two. So, I I give the the Raiders like three more seasons.
The Raiders have to lose to keep the one pick. Yeah, I'm going to try to not watch a second of this game.
I think we can make that happen. I I might close my eyes anytime my head goes towards that TV.
There is a milestone. Oh, Travis Kelce 57 yards away from Jason Whitten to move into second place all time.
Okay. He also is two receptions away from passing to for eighth all time in terms of balls caught, which is pretty incredible for a tight end.
I feel like getting to second place if you're retirement is is up in the air like his is. I think the Chiefs will try to make that happen.
Yeah, definitely. Definitely both things to be like, hey, top 10 receptions, second place receiving yards.
Yep. Yeah. I I don't care about this game. You think Max Crosby want to watch this game while he's at CrossFit? Yeah, dude. Max Crosby, we could talk about it now. Um, good basketball player.
Yeah, very good. Yeah, I Max Crosby is the number one every single team, every every single decent team is going to want in the offseason.
I know I want him. I don't know if this entered Max's calculations, but we get you've been a great teammate. Nobody would hold it against you if you were like, I'd like to be traded now. Yeah,
you've said all the right things. We've checked that box. You're not a diva, Max.
No, he's You wanted to stick around. All he does is play. You wanted to be there. I think at this point, you're well within your rights to be like, "Fuck you guys. Trade me."
Yes. And do it. Please do it. Yeah. Please do it. Please, please do it. The I I think we should maybe do maybe we should do a roundroin where we have to bet every single game just for fun.
Okay. Like you should. No one should bet the Raiders Chiefs game, but we we got to.
Yeah, I'm I mean I'm I'm definitely going to, but but no one should do it. No one should do it. Rams, Cardinals, Rams are seven-point favorites. Overunder is 46 and a half. This one is kind of an up and air up in the air game because if the Seahawks win, no, sorry, if the ners win, the Rams have a complete lock on six, right?
Yes, I believe that's true. If the Ner's win, the Rams cannot go anywhere but the six seed. So, if the Niners win on Saturday night, I would expect the Rams to not play anyone.
See, Niners win on Saturday night, Rams. I believe that's true because we said that earlier, Seahawks can't move off the fifth spot. Yeah. So, that will be the that that will be and then if if the alternative happens, if the Seahawks win, I would assume the Rams are going to try to win this game because then they would be the fifth seed and get to go to the NFC South.
Yes. Which is a big difference than going to Philadelphia. It's you're you're going to try very hard.
Max has got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. I wish we had the camera on Max's face.
Yeah, you're going to you're going to try very hard to win this game. Yeah, if you're able to move up, that's a big difference.
I also will throw this out there. There's another one coming up. There's actually a couple coming up. I think the Rams probably could win this game with Jimmy G.
I think that what the Rams are doing right now is actually right along those lines. It's it's smart what McVey is saying. He's saying that he's going to play all the starters. Says we need to play better. And they asked him about it. They said, "Are you doing that because you've lost two in a row?" His answer was, "No, they were going to play anyways. We need to play. We need to play better football. So, I don't know what the consequences are on those different types of things, but we have to play better." So, he essentially said, "No, but also, yes, you're 100% correct that I'm playing my starters because we have to play better." I think that if there's a chance that uh if the Saturday night game does not go the Rams way, they might just not play their starters. Yeah, they might just But he's keeping that door open for it.
Yeah. So that we'll we'll see if this game is good or not. The the Dolphins at Patriots Patriots minus 10 and a half. Drake May is gonna win the MVP.
It looks that way. I mean, I I say it all the time. It's it's I I think both are good choices. If Drake May wins the MVP, that's a good choice. If Matthew Stafford wins the MVP, good choice. I don't really have a strong take or bet on it. The thing with the MVP, and I've say it every single year, if Matthew Stafford had played the Falcons at noon on Sunday, would he still win the MVP? Probably. He played him on Monday Night Football and he had a, you know, pick sixes and the and the the Rams lost.
That's what people go for. Now, what if the Dolphins beat the Patriots? Because Miami, I think they've won two in a row in Foxboro.
Okay. And but it's a cold weather game. It is a cold weather game, but it's not Tua.
It's Quinn yours. Wow. Wow. Can Quinn play in the cold? I don't know. Yeah, he he I mean, he went to Ohio State for a year. Yeah.
Right. Yeah. So, yeah, Quinn can maybe I He's from Texas, but he did go to Ohio State for years, so he's at least aware of cold weather.
I don't think that the cold affects him as much as it does Tua. I think that's a safe bet.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. And uh I I still think that the Patriots are going to win.
Yeah, they are. And I think that even if they lose, I think Drake May should probably be the MVP. The the bigger question with the Patriots this week is um is everything okay? Because Stefon Diggs and uh Christian Barmore.
Well, yeah. I mean, you're talking about Stefon Diggs incentives, right? Yeah. Stefon Digs.
He's got 30 yards on Sunday to get a,000 for the season and that would give him $500,000. Enough to pay 10 chefs.
Wow. Yeah. Think about all the meals. It'd be a lot of meals. He could even have two chefs.
I wish Hank was here. We'll we'll ask him about it. But yeah, the the Patriots are are primed to I mean they're going to win this game.
I think so. I I think they're going to win this game and Drake May is going to win the MVP and the Dolphins are going to possibly keep Mike McDaniel. I don't know. I don't know what the Dolphins are going to do.
I think he might have done enough. He might have done enough. He might have done enough. Uh Commanders and Eagles. Eagles are minus three and a half now. Over under 38 and a half. The big question is can the Eagles beat the Commanders with their backups? Cuz Nick Serriani is going to play the backups Max. How do you feel about that? Love it. Any place, anywhere, anytime. Shows confidence in your team.
Get the boys healthy for the playoffs. Will you be upset, slightly upset if the Bears lose and the Eagles like barely lose to the Commanders?
Any place, anywhere, anytime. But you'll be slightly upset. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I do think that we were talking about it before. But I think the Eagles are in a different spot than the Bears where if the roles were reversed and it's if you win this game, you get the two seed.
You have to you have to play everyone. They're in a spot where they could win the game and still not get the two seed. So why risk injury?
Yeah. Which makes sense. Also, the the five number three seeds in 50 years have reached the Super Bowl and only three have won the Super Bowl.
So it's actually better to be the four seed than it is to be the three seed. historically,
but they can't be the four seat. But they can't be. But they could be the three seat.
They could be the three seat. Now, um, Max, I think that I actually like the commanders in this game.
Okay. I I I I do. I'm happy for you. Okay. This it doesn't mean anything to you. You said that you're going to be slightly upset.
I mean, we're playing our backups. Yeah. Is it Tanner? Tanner McKe. Tanner McKe.
I like Tanner. I mean, they're still I think they're four and a half point favorites still.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is disrespectful. Disrespect. That's big time disrespect.
Disrespect. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Disrespect. No, it's it's it's disrespect. Definitely disrespect.
It is. I I do like Debo Samuel to uh to get a maybe another touchdown. If he gets one more, he gets 250 grand. And if he gets 97 receiving yards, he gets $200,000. Okay.
So, I like a big game out of Debo. And I Josh Johnson. Sure. Let's Yeah, let's trot Josh Johnson out there. This is
That's a good point. It's not like you guys have your first team your first team either.
It's It's a great game for me. If we lose, awesome. Maybe better draft pick. If we win,
I get to beat Max. And I It doesn't feel It doesn't feel as good beating the backups.
Yeah. Well, it would it would ensure a NFC East divisional tournament championship
in season. We'd have Yeah, we'd have No, no, no. Outright. It doesn't It doesn't matter.
That's right. No prior results matter except this game. No, we'd have two wins in the tournament.
Right. Right. And I think you'd have one win. You would have one win in the tournament.
Yeah. Right. So, yeah, it's cumulative wins. We'd have two. The Cowboys, I think, would have one.
If the Cowboys beat the Giants, they'd have two. Oo. Is that true? Well, they beat the Commanders last week.
So, we could tie Yeah. [ __ ] Oh, [ __ ] You're a huge Who's a bigger Giants fan this team? You you don't know the tie the tiebreaker I think is uh strength of victory. Okay.
And the Cowboys would have beaten they would have beaten the commanders. Eagles definitely would have been the strength of victor. Yeah.
Yeah. And they would have beaten the Giants who stink. We would have a win against the Eagles who are good.
All right. So it doesn't matter. Strength of victory. Yeah. We have the best matter back.
I think it's I think it's it's margin of victory. So you got to root for a specific you lost by seven to the Cowboys. You got to hope that the Cowboys don't beat the the Giants by more than
Yeah. Head to head is not so head to head. We don't do head to head to head doesn't matter. Head to head.
You can't. It's a hat and t-shirt game for us. No, this has been a sad season. I'm glad to see that. I'm glad to see that it's over. If we're getting to week 18 and I'm talking about a madeup tournament that Dan Quinn invented to try to get his team to show more than 5% effort. Uh, and I'm putting all my weight behind that. This that's the a surefire sign that I need this regular season to be over.
Shit's gotten sad. You can't The good news is the Commanders cannot fall past the seventh uh spot. We locked that in with the same lottery.
So you can if if teams ahead of you win on Sunday, you could potentially get a a better pick. You'd go all the way up. I mean, the the chances of the the Giants, Jets, Titans, and Cardinals all winning is very small.
Yeah. But if that did happen and you lost, you could potentially have the the two pick.
Yeah. I don't I think we're going to find ourselves right around uh somewhere between five and seven. Yeah, that seems right. Okay, last game. This one means something. Ravens and Steelers to end the 2025 regular season in the NFL. The Steelers are three and a half point underdogs. The overunder is 40 and a half. I think the Ravens are going to win.
I think so, too. Lamar's going to play. Yep. And I think they're going to run Derrick Henry.
Yeah. And I just I if you close your eyes, I can just see a a sad Aaron Rogers and Mike Tomman walking off the field.
Yeah. Unfortunately, I I I did want the Steelers to uh to make the playoffs. I So, you But no, but now you could say you you I guess we'll never know.
We'll never know. Um if they do make the playoffs, I think they'll win a game, but I don't think they're going to make the playoffs now.
Do Do you still think they're going to win a game? They'd have to play Who' they play?
I think they it I mean, it's all up in the air. It is all up in the air, but I So, we don't know.
It would maybe be the Texans. It could be the Texans. that that doesn't seem like a game they would win.
Texans are 0 and2 on the road in the playoffs under Demo Ryan. Yeah, but think about Aaron Rogers in that pass going up against that pass rush.
I do think about that and and Rogers is already looking forward to next year. It sounds like he's coming back.
Yeah, I'm actually I got to I got to root for the the Ravens here because I think the Ravens could beat the Texans.
They could. The Steelers I don't think can, but I think the Ravens could. Yeah, the uh the Ravens are going to give a healthy dose of Derrick Henry for sure. Last week they did something that hadn't been done in a long time with Derrick Henry. They ran the ball out of I form
which is awesome. Yes. It's old school football. He had 18 runs from eye formation. That's the most by any ball carrier since 2015.
Mhm. This is It does feel like maybe an end of an era for the losing team in this game.
It does. And we said it should be a loser leaves town for the coaches. Yeah. Like whichever coach loses this game. And then Adam Shfter kind of alluded to that. He said like it it might be.
Yeah. The Steelers, by the way, at home against the Ravens have been good. They're 4- one at home against the Ravens their last five years. They also are 20 and five in their regular season finale since 2000. 11-1 at home.
Mhm. Those stats really probably don't mean anything, but it's cool to look at. Just say they always win their last game.
I I would like to see DK just come back. Yeah, just show up. Just do a do a Jamus.
Just show up. What are they going to do if you play? It is. Is the ref does does the ref have the physical ability to keep DK Mechaf off the field?
We should do a reappeal on this because for the viewer and the people at home, DK Mechaf playing in this game makes it so much better.
Yeah, but what would happen if he just if he went out there on the field for the first possession?
What if he went What if he brought the guy the Lions fan came out let the Lions fans slap him in the face? He's like, "We're good." or DK kidnaps the Lions fan and then forces him to do a video being like, "I'd like for you to reinstate DK Metaf for this game. I'm sorry. I was in the wrong."
What if the Lions We say DK Metaf can play, but the Steelers have to play their entire first offensive series series with the Lions fan at wide receiver.
Yeah, that would be awesome. I'd Yeah, I'd agree to that. I would definitely punishment should fit the crime.
Yeah. Okay, that is uh Yeah, I'm excited for that game. I just think the Ravens I don't know. I Lamar the whole Lamar thing is weird, but the fact that he's going to be playing because I had to take earlier this week that if he doesn't play, could we could this have been the last time we see him in a Ravens uniform? I It seems like he's going to play. So, I I don't know what's going to end up happening. If they win a couple games, will they just keep going with the Harbaugh Lamar thing? There's a lot of smoke,
but they have one game to get in. And who knows? the Ravens would officially, if the Ravens win this game convincingly, there will be a lot of the Ravens are the team to watch out for.
I think that if the Ravens get in there, there's definitely possibility that they could win at least one game. Yeah. And then I don't think that you do anything about Lamar and Harbaugh. Yeah. I think you just you run it back.
You just try not to get injured. And it does feel like he's going to play because this is what the Ravens do every single time they play the Steelers with Lamar.
At the start of the week, it's like, "Oh, we don't know if Lamar is going to play." And then guess what? Lamar plays.
Jerry wants to play Lamar. Yes. He said that he would rather have the Ravens play Lamar than Snoop Huntley.
Yep. Which is he's I mean he the Steelers have I I just said the stat at home and Steelers have kind of owned the Ravens recently.
Yep. So, okay, let's do our picks and then we have Jerry Oonnell exit interview for the 2025 fantasy football season. So, who's got the first pick? I have Zack and Hank's picks. They sent me three options for each. So, we'll get one of their options. I'm up first.
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I'm going to take the Bears Lions over 50 and a half. Who is up next? Is that Hank?
That'd be Hank. All right, so Hank's selections I'm going to pick off of his order. Um, his first selection is going to be the Steelers plus three and a half. Memes,
I'm going to go with the Jaguars minus 12 and a half. Okay, I'm riding the hot hand. Give me the Shster plus three.
I love that. I love that. Zach, his first selection is going to be the Buccaneers minus two and a half.
Okay. PFT. I am going to go with the under in Ravens Steelers. Oh, 40 and a half.
Zach's number one pick that he uh cuz I had him send me his top four is the over in that game.
So, he's going to take over 40 and a half. Okay. Do I get two now? Oh, sorry. That's okay. I could take the over and the under. Yeah. Uh, I am going to take down to two. I'm going to take the
49ers. Okay. Plus one and a half. Okay. I think I think Trent Williams might play.
Okay. So, that's Zack has the over in the Ravens Steelers game. What is your pick?
I am going to take the over in Titans Jags over 47 and a half. Okay, I'm gonna go over in Seahawks 49ers over 47 and a half.
Hank is going to take under. Should I give him? So he sent me Commander Eagles under 41 and a half. It's now 38 and a half. Or should I give him his other option was Bears Lions under 50 and a half, which is stage two.
Do that. That That's too confusing. Okay. All right. Bears, Lions. Um and then I have the last pick. I am going to take Did anyone take the Seahawks?
Nope. Nope. I'm going to take the Seahawks minus one and a half. All right. Okay. Do we have Do we do a touchdown parlay or should we just We There might not be enough things out there. We can We We'll have one. We'll have one. We'll We'll It'll be at the beginning of the show. We'll put one together at the beginning of the show because it'll be closer. Okay.
I think Shock runs one in. Oh. Oh, I think he uses the legs. Oh, I think that's a that's a early game, but we'll still bet it. We'll still bet it.
Oh, I I like that, too, though. Yeah, he's done it all. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's get to Jerry Oonnell. Before we do that, PFD, you got a quick word from one of our sponsors.
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So, we made it to the championship this year. We lost in the championship. We were starting Jacobe Brassette and uh we just want to have a recap, see where we're at as a team. I think most teams, you know, this is we're getting close to Black Monday. A lot of owners sit with their coaches, be like, "Hey, where did things go wrong? How do you think you did? Assess the season and and you know, what's going to happen going forward?"
You asking me to speak now? Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I mean, the floor is yours. I mean, how do you think the season went? First of all, just want to say um what's up to the AWLs. Um thank you for all your support this season uh in helping uh me manage this team. They were very helpful except for the one guy during the draft who kept screaming Ali Gordon, Ali Gordon, Ali Gordon over and over again. That was that was annoying. That said, when you texted me about this exit interview, I was a little nervous. Um I I texted you big cat. What's this about? What's going on? I mean, runner up. How much better can we do? We did not have to pay that substantial entry fee. Substantial. I actually broke it down. You know, last time I told you it was onetenth of my driveway.
[clears throat] I actually broke it down here. I I put in a new heating system in my home. It is onethird of a new heating system. onethird of a new heating system in a I don't want to show off but a three-bedroom home.
Mhm. Okay. Um it is it is a substantial amount of money. This exit interview should be nothing but grateful coming from both of you. Big cat, I've read some things online that you've said and I appreciate it. PFT, you've been a little rude and not very appreciative.
I gave Jerry a vote of confidence after Sunday. Listen, you don't want the vote of confidence, Jerry. The vote of confidence is a kiss of death in the NFL. You know that coaches, New York Giants head coaches have gotten like seven consecutive votes of confidence before they've been fired. What Big Cat's doing is I mean I think he's actually a little bit more appreciative than I am. That's true.
I am giving you a a real vote of confidence. I have no intention of firing you uh from this from this job unless this exit interview goes poorly.
So it it is true that big cat's a little more appreciative than I am. I think uh my my pain comes from a uh a place of expectations being set by you before the season. You're wearing the jersey right now, the Jaden Daniels jersey. I believe you said he was going to break every NFL quarterback record this year.
Mhm. I put He did not, by the way. He did not do any of those things. Uh, if there's a blame pie that we're cutting up, I I probably give you 33% of the blame for Jaden Daniel's season going poorly because of the expectations that you put on him in the preseason.
Oh, 33%. That's funny. That's That's the exact amount uh that it took to get his new water heater that he stole from us from the the money that he got back.
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So, it wasn't a water heater, dude. It was a heating system. Like, if you want heat in your house, Um, it was like 60° the other night here in LA. Like, you need a heater. Um, you know, let me ask you. I mean, hopefully I'm I'm still your manager next season. I mean, uh, I'd like to see Chefy get you this much content, whatever. Um, shout out uh shout out game time. Um, what what are like let's just say we were going to draft some commanders next season. What what assurances can you give us? What are maybe some commanders going to do to I don't know work on like tendon strength, bone density? What are they going to do in the off season?
I think for the commanders I I think for the commanders you are banned from drafting any commanders next year.
I would like to see that. I'd like to see that put in place. I don't want you to touch anybody on my team ever.
Yeah. Okay. All right. That's good. We can work with that. Yep. Well, we were going to do that anyway. Unless you could assure me someone was going to, I don't know, work work on legs, do some squats. Some of those videos we see from from from some of the Eagles facility. Team members clapping and back of like team members doing like putting on like six or seven plates on each side. Are we going to see any of that? Are people going to drink milk?
Here's here's where we differ, Jerry. I I think that you are the reason for it. I don't think that our strength and conditioning is making them bad, meaning you don't want to draft them next year. I think it's a chicken or the egg situation. I would just I would like to move forward removing all commanders from the draft pool for you next year. I know that in the past you've taken entire teams off your draft list. So, let's just add one more.
Um I I I mean news flash, if I am your manager next season. Um also, we're never drafting. Is Max here? Yeah.
Or is he still on vacation? I'm here. I'm here. No, he's here. [clears throat] We're never drafting an Eagle ever again, Max. It's over. Seaquan. Hey, Max.
We're talking about the Commanders. Hey, Max Saquon [ __ ] us hard this season. He [ __ ] us real hard. He was our first pick.
He has 1100 yards and eight touchdowns. It's a good year, dude. Not okay. Not okay. Not with a first pick. A first pick has got to be Lights Out. We're talking JSN. We're we're we're we're talking uh Ashton Genty. We're we're talking Bejon.
Ashton, dude. Ashenti does not have better numbers than Saquon Barkley this year.
Championship game. Going off of one single game. No, dude. No. I I was there. I was at that Chargers game when I was begging for Squan at the end of the game. I I was I was live texting with
He had a 50 yard touchdown that game. He did have a 50-yard touchdown toward the end of the game. It was a fluke. Thank god it happened. He had about five points going into there. He [ __ ] us so hard, Max. So hard.
The two examples you gave were Ashton Genty over Saquon Barkley. I was just Chargers game.
Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. He would have he would have he kind of fell off at the end of the season in terms of numbers. I think what Jerry, what we're looking at is you need to do a better job of drafting clutch players.
Saquon Barkley not clutch in the fantasy championship. Yeah. Uh, you know, I was trying to keep it sort of friendly with the podcast and stuff, but you know what? You guys win. We're just going to draft all Patriots next year and let's see how morale is in that room. Uh, and
Hank's on vacation right now. Of course he is. I got a question for you, Jerry. I got a question. And this is again, this is an exit interview that I I went I'm going in, we were texting last night. I I went I'm going into this exit interview being like, Jerry's my fantasy manager. Nothing's gonna change, but I do have some questions that I would just like some answers to. Jaden Daniels obviously got hurt this year. The backup plan for Jacobe Brassette. Did we ever have an option to maybe upgrade the backup plan? Did we ever have a different waiver wire? Did we have a guy we could trade for? Because it felt like going into the championship with Jacobe Brassette was a was not the best.
We did. First of all, that that league that you've put me in, uh, I felt bad when I was shit-talking those guys we were in the championship with, that was a little I don't know if you read those texts. That was a little rough.
Yeah, you went atomic on them. You also added me and PFD to text thread with just two random guys and then left it.
Uh, they actually um Yeah, I'm I'm I'm so sorry. Full story to the AWLs why I gave your uh phone numbers out. Sorry about that. I I shouldn't have done that. um they wanted to double the money in the championship and also second place gets no money and I didn't feel comfortable um authorizing that. Uh to be honest, the the amount of money that's being thrown around it really it it's um what else did I do? You know, I had some tree trimming done in my backyard. It was it was literally like how much it costs to trim all the trees like in in my backyard. I just don't have that kind of I I don't have that money to throw around. And of course, Big Cat said, "Let's go. Winner takes all. Thank God I talked you off that ledge cuz I saved us a substantial amount of money. You have to call 1800 Gambler, Big Cat. This isn't even double it. I wanted to double it."
Do you think that maybe having the safety net there for second place that that made you more comfortable going into the finals? made you less likely to go out and and get a replacement for Jacobe Brassette.
Pressure. Pressure makes diamonds in that league. No one in that league would would trade with me. You saw the texts, PFT. You read them on the show. I was begging anyone to make a trade with me. I was offering
Max's beloved Sequin who had such a sick season. A sick season. I was begging anyone to take him up our hands for anyone. We did have Jackson Dart, but after week 16 and that one and that one-point game, I couldn't start him. He did perform better than Jacobe Brassette in week 17, but I could not start him after that week 16 game. I couldn't do it.
So, wait, Max has a question cuz I I would like to hear Max's question. Max, did we ever think about picking up Tyler Shuck for this team?
Good question. because I know there was there was a time where he was available and we've been in on him early.
Jackson Dart, by the way, had two touchdowns in the fantasy championship. I think Tyler Sh could have helped us this week.
Mhm. Yeah. I um I didn't because PFT wanted to keep Jaden on our team if we went to the championship and stuff.
So, we had we had I mean, he's on our roster right now. You can go and look. He wanted him to get a ring.
I did want Yeah, I did request that Jerry not cut Jaden Daniel. so that he could get a championship.
That's new. That's true. Uh but I mean there's other guys that you could have cut.
Um yeah, guys, it was a tough season. I I mean we also had Cam Scataboo. Uh we just had uh you know um T-Mac, that's how we're supposed to say it, everyone. That one guy can stop texting me that we're saying his name wrong. If you say uh he wants to be called T-Mac, his mom wants us to call him T-Mac, not Tet. Uh, Max called him Ted the other day. There's just some guy who keeps texting me. You could stop texting me. I said it, dude. Um, uh,
how do all these people get your phone numbers? No, He wasn't texting. He was, um, DMing.
Okay. Jerry, speaking of texting, I have I have a question because you you talked about the trades. Do you think maybe next year we should maybe not be as aggressive texting the whole entire group chat of the league because that might negatively impact what people are thinking about you and not want to do a trade with you?
Well, uh you you can beat this out if you want. I didn't realize CJ McCullum, who was playing like through some pretty big games this season, uh when I was like texting him directly and saying, "Dude, got to give us a trade. Got to give us a trade." Didn't realize he was like right in the middle of his his season. He was very polite, by the way. Very nice.
Great guy. Oh, dude. How about when I [ __ ] went atomic on those guys? They told him maybe you should get some improv classes.
Yeah. What? Told him. Told him to get some improv classes. Do you have a funny friend that you could bounce ideas off? This isn't going to cut it.
Said said they don't play sports cuz they they clearly didn't play sports cuz that's not how guys talk.
It's just they sent that one like bing bong. you blew it meme and it just set me off. I I got to say the worst thing about coming in second place is knowing I'm going to be in a Chili's with my family or an Applebee's or a a Hillstone and like four like young men are going to come up to me and the table and lean down and my whole family's going to look up and they're going to look me right in the eye and go, "Bing bang, you blew it."
Uhhuh. You blew it. Show us your tootsies, Jerry. And then they're going to walk off. And then my frightened children and wife are going to go, "What the [ __ ] was that? What the [ __ ] was that?"
Now, Jerry, uh, we don't care uh about Hank here, and you don't either. But do you think maybe that's a little ironic because that is just Hank's life now.
It's what he gets. Yeah. Fair, fair point. Hey guys, I realize this is an exit interview. I'm going to very quickly, I know it's the holidays and you guys have to go to all these parties and everything. Um, uh, I'm going to go through, uh, some stuff that I'm going to do next season if I am your, uh, if if if I am your man.
But before you do, I I have one last question about No parties, by the way. Yeah, no parties. I I got I got one question about your performance this year as it pertains to the championship. Then I want to hear all about next year, what your plans are. That's a big part of uh, the evaluation process that we have for you. In the championship game, you made one really good call. I want to give you a pat on the back. Uh, it came down to Taesm Hill or Colston Lovel to start a tight end
and you selected Coloulston Loveland. Ta Hill had zero points. Mhm. Loveland. I I believe he had something like 18 fantasy points. That was
No, it was incredible game. Best game of the year. A great call on your part. Clutch call. Can you walk us through the process that you use to decide? Okay. Are we going to go with the Bears or the Saints?
You're being such a little [ __ ] right now, PFD. You're being so what you're doing. It was a great call.
Honestly, I was going to be nice here and say like congrats on Netflix and not call you guys sellouts or anything, but you're being such a [ __ ] What you're saying right now is just touching you're like an acupuncturist. You're like going and you're touching the nerve with like a little needle.
Dry needling. What nerve are we talking about? We're dry needling right now. Follow us. For those who don't follow us on the Everything app, I said, "Hey guys, we're down 20. I'm thinking about getting bold and starting Taesm Hill. A lot of our AWLs said, "Don't do that. Don't do that." So, I took it to a vote. I've never done one of those votes on uh X. It truly is the everything app. Like, it was fun to do a poll, you know.
Did any experts help you out? [clears throat] Um, Adam Shfter jumped in and said, "Absolutely. I would I would go over I would go Loveland over over Hill."
Oh, okay. Uh, you know, I don't want to get him in trouble with, you know, cuz obviously there was money at stake and everything, but uh, Chef was absolutely correct. Um,
he was absolutely correct. [clears throat] He actually he actually, uh, I reached out to to Sheffy. He's he's got a message for you. Do you want me to play it?
Yeah, sure. Let's go. Okay. All right. So, he sent me this cuz he was busy today. Otherwise, he would have he would have joined the sex interview.
Oh, it's a voice message. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a video. It's a video. You ready? It's a video.
You ready? Yeah. Yeah. Jerry, I just want to congratulate you on a very strong season. Not strong enough, but very strong. Impressive all the way around. Know you were juggling a lot. And I also want you to know if the guys want to get me involved in managing this team after their review of your performance, I'd be honored and I'd most likely say yes. But I do want you to know that I still have full confidence in you getting it done and bringing home the championship that was so elusive this year. Yeah.
Congratulations on a job well done, just not really well done. That was nice, right?
Very nice. Yeah. Yeah. Super good. You know, another vote of confidence. Somebody just record this. Memes, just record this and you can send a message back to Chefy for me. Okay.
Okay. Are you ready, Memes? You ready? Make sure you're recording this for the podcast.
Make sure you record this real quick. Thanks. Thanks, Memes. Hey, Chefty. What's up? It's Jerry Oonnell. Thanks for your help with that whole level thing. PFT reminded me. Hey, man. Yeah, come on in. The water's warm. Uh, I I would love to have you uh co-manage this team. Hope you're cool with like um 20-year-old [clears throat] men coming up to your table and whispering in your ear, "Bing bong, you blew it. Show us your tootsies, Tiffany. Show us your tootsies. You blew it. You're never going to get a driveway ever." Respectfully, I [ __ ] your wife.
Respectfully, hope you're okay with that stuff, Chefy. Yeah. Thanks. Uh and uh and we'll talk in the offseason. We'll just have some like dynasty combos. See you.
Okay. That was good. I think I think he's going to be intrigued by that offer. Let me um let me go through some of these things that I might do for you next season. Just sort of like an exit interview, some ideas that I had uh going out there. Um let's start with the AFC East.
Um wait, it [ __ ] it. It pains me to say this. And he's not there. Time out. Are we Are you doing the whole Are you doing the whole NFL?
This will take this will take 15 minutes. Tops. Let it rip, Jerry. Go ahead. Go for it.
Let it rip. Go for it. Who like what else do you have to do? Isn't it v vacation? I mean Zach hasn't even taken down the Christmas [ __ ]
Yeah, we we go for it. Um Oh, you thought this was just going to be like a fantasy minute thing. No, dude.
Start with the AFC East. Uh unfortunately, it pains me to say this. He's not there so I could talk [ __ ] about him. I I can't believe it, but we have to draft all those patch Pats next season. It's so upsetting that it's 2017 2019 all over again. They are they they are back. Oh, that said, um I I He's not there, so I can't talk to him. Um I do think this Stefon Diggs thing is going to be a distraction going into the postseason.
Mhm. Um not helping. I mean, Max, you just got engaged, right? Congratulations.
Thank you, Jerry. I mean, let's just say you had a private chef. Like you were in a good mood after you got got engaged, right?
Yeah. Yeah, I was in a good mood. I mean, would you choke out your private chef if you had just gotten engaged? Like would you like be like in that sort of like like No, you wouldn't even think to do that.
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Um staying in the AFC East. Um Stefon got engaged.
Yeah. Didn't he didn't Wasn't that photo? You're telling me that photo was that photo was real? Dude, don't tell me it was AI. I'm not
He was on He took a knee. He took a knee. That's all I need to see. That photo was real. I I heard you guys arguing about that. Um, that was real. Um, oh, I I actually have a thing about the Bills. If Josh Allen doesn't friend of the show, if if Josh Allen doesn't do it this season, uh, I don't know when he is with Mahomes of Burrow out of there. I if if if he's not going to the Super Bowl this season, I I don't know when he is.
Yeah. Mhm. Um Oh, I really hope George Pickkins goes to the Bills, though. That would make Josh Allen a must draft for us next season.
Mhm. That'd be great. First round. Uh, you think the Dolphins stay with you? I do.
You think they're going to roll the dice? Just let him go. No, I I think they're going to I think he's going to be their starter next season.
Okay. Okay. Would you draft him? Uh, if they draft Ty Simpson from Alabama, I would draft him.
Okay. Okay. No, no. I mean, if they if if they draft that um that a wide receiver um not Ty Simpson, Carnell Tate, if they draft Carnell Tate, I would draft him.
Okay. Yeah. Um Oh god. Memes. What are we doing? Memes. Dante Moore. Dante Moore. Garrett Wilson.
That's all I have. Um Lamar, I can't believe you were on the Lamar thing so early on. I don't know what websites you're going to, but you were on it early. Hey, what about M. Jones means I'm not even joking.
We We're just going to run through the entire 2022 class. Well, I mean, just like he's going to be out there.
Yeah, [ __ ] it. Okay. Uh, what about Kyler? Sure. M just wants a quarterback, I think. Literally any quarterback.
Number one, Lamar. Number two, Dante. I'd probably say number one Dante. No, number one Lamar. Number two Dante.
But I thought you said that you were going to get Lamar and then and then rest him for the entire season.
That's also true. Okay. Memes is memes is uh he hasn't done his own exit interview with himself yet, so he's not clear on the plan for next year. [clears throat]
Um all right, let's go to the AFC North. Um I wish I could get a beat on Jaylen Warren. He's so hot. He's so cold. We just can't draft. I just too up and down. Um 100% I am on DK's side. But by the way, what is the common denominator between that Steelers game? The um what was that fight called with uh Meta Meta World Peace?
The Yeah, Malice in the Palace. I was going to say the scrum and the forum. Um the malice in the palace. What is the What is the common denominator?
I I I don't know, guys. Come on. It's right there. What? Detroit. Detroit. It's Detroit.
The M the Palace happened. Yeah, it was in Detroit. I don't want to get sued by anyone who has hats on backwards, but 100%. If you're not on DK's side on that, I'm sorry everybody, then you're not a sports fan. That guy was That guy was out of pocket. Out of pocket. Wanted it.
Mhm. Wanted it. DK gave him what he wanted. Yep. Don't sue me. I I'm all allegedly.
Oh, you know was a real [ __ ] let down this year and we almost drafted him. We didn't. Uh was John Smith. Everybody forgets like what a big deal that was him
him going to the Steelers. Um uh you know was I really missed was Z I'm moving on to Baltimore. Um, Z Flowers was a real deal. He went in the sixth round and I missed him.
Yeah. Who'd we take instead of him? Um, not Z Flowers. Um, I'll tell you the big one we missed was, um, [clears throat] in the third round, Jackson Smith, Nigba, uh, we took, uh,
we took Jaden and that was an error. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Error. It was. What are we doing this off seasonason? Are we going to like work on like straight What are we doing in the offseason PFT?
Well, we're banning Jerry Oconor from drafting him next year. So, I think that's going to arrow going straight up for Jaden. Straight up to the right. Yep.
Right. But are we doing anything any like what like like sort of like what sort of like strength and conditioning are we doing?
I think we're going to do more virtual reality stuff. So, uh process it process things faster. Yeah.
More computers. [clears throat] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Computers cuz cuz that's the problem. Um, oh man, Bengals, we got to do it again, guys. We love shitty defenses in fantasy. Chase Brown, I'm going to say it right now. AP offensive player of the year, Chase Brown.
Okay. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Think about it. So, you have a lot of confidence in Joe coming back then.
There was some smoke a couple weeks ago. I think he's coming back, but you're not you're not scared by that.
We do. And by the way, this is fantasy, guys, okay? This isn't teams winning. We We love a shitty defense. a shitty defense and a good offense. Yeah, that's like
that's fantastic. That's like That's like a naked That's like Sydney Sweeney. That's what you want.
Yeah. Cans fantasy. Um but by the way, Jerry Jerry, I'm going to I'm going to stand up for I'm not I'm not I'm still listening. I still have my headphones on. I'm just going to put on the college football games because I just, you know, I don't want to It's going to be like halftime by the time we're done with this. So, I just
I just want to say for the record, this meeting was supposed to start a half hour ago. I've been sitting in this parking lot here down the street from my house. True.
PFT was I guess I I don't know at a Planet of Fitness like looking at guys in the locker room. I I don't know what was like
I was you talking to guys in locker rooms like where were you? I've been sitting here for I was here for no joke 40 minutes
in a parking lot. Mhm. Yeah. This time of year we have a lot of conversations with a lot of people uh regarding our fantasy team, our plans for next year. I don't want to say who I was talking to or where I was but you know I'm doing my due diligence. Jerry, do you think that if you really and I'm I I think you really care about this. It's it like pretty much ruined your holidays, you know, the championship and just and going through it all. But do you think that um if you really wanted to show us how much you care, you you would have been here in person?
Listen, guys, I couldn't. It was my daughter's uh 17th birthday. They were having a party at our house
on Sunday, right? On Sunday. Yes. Today's Wednesday. Oh, here here for this. Yeah, I just I I half expected you to just walk in the door with your briefcase.
Yeah, guys, it is um I mean like uh you know uh the the AOL should know like all the smoke and mirrors that happens. We are recording this on New Year's Eve and I have like a a wife and children and stuff. You wanted me to fly to Chicago? No, I to you guys fire me and play me messages from Shapter.
No, I just was asking a simple question. If you thought it was important to come here for the exit interview, then we would have thought it was important.
Mhm. Hey guys, if it wasn't like the biggest holiday of the year, Yeah. I would have been there some random.
Oh, okay. If it was some random Wednesday in August, you know, I would have been there.
Yeah. Um Oh. Uh, you know what? Uh, I'm I'm still on the Bengals. Does the name Stephanie Niles mean anything to you guys?
Stephanie Niles? I don't know. Oh, yeah. Um it's actually um it's Jake Browning's wife who dresses up at those games.
Lovely lady. Yeah. Yeah. Lovely lady. And don't put this on the bunk bunk list. This is this is all respectfully. She's happily married. But I like um she looks cute in all those things. It's it's cute. I like that. I It's It's fun.
Jerry, have you ever been to a diddy New Year's Eve party? Oh. Um no. I I have uh
I saw you you go onto a different podcast and talk about how you've been to Diddy parties. Yeah.
You did the D diddy you did your diddy stories on a different show. Yeah, we we talked to about this.
Oh, we did? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's on me. That's on me. What? Um, what other podcast did I say I went to a diddy party at?
I don't know. I saw a clip of it. I did see a clip, too. Yeah. Yeah. Um, maybe it was Bert Bert Chryser. Um, yeah, I went to a diddy party. Um, I I didn't get invited. I mean, I wasn't invited to any sort of like afterparty. Um, I didn't see anything. There was no baby oil involved. Um I uh was actually asked to leave. I was uh because I was like drinking a lot and um I was asked to leave the party.
Okay. Oh, good. Good. Did you do anything did you do anything regrettable? Anything that that caused them to ask you to leave?
You know, uh it was what they call a white party. So, everyone has to wear pure white. And uh I immediately came in and got two the bar was so packed. It was like six people deep. And I got two vodka cranberries and on the dance floor spilled them on my white outfit. So I looked like I had like I wasn't in I just looked like a mess.
I was drinking heavily uh in those days. Okay. I just saw Max just wipe the screen there.
Yeah. Yeah. Good. Max diet starts today. Let's go. 2026. So uh so no more AFC North.
Hey guys, why are you guys dieting? Why don't you just go on those [ __ ] drugs that everybody's on? Like what's the deal? Like everyone just takes that shot. We I mean we we're gonna give it an honest try and then we'll see.
Now, are you doing that thing where you're like, "We're on this journey. We're partnering with Planet Fitness and then you're really like secretly taking a shot cuz that's a little like
No. No. The only thing I'm in the market for right now is TRT, which I have a doctor's appointment on Monday. And I will be very open with everyone if I do in fact start taking TRT.
I too will be open if I get if I get on the Big O, but right now I'm not there. I I'm I'm hoping I my my biggest fear is going to my doctor and them being like actually you have like high tea and I'll be like what the [ __ ] Why do I feel like [ __ ] You know
I was uh I was somewhere recently and somebody in Calabasas where I live, this suburb, this Tony suburb that I live in, uh a older dad leaned over to me and went, "Hey man, you ever think about TRT?" And I was like, "What?" And he went, "No, I saw that clip where they said you look like an aging lesbian and you know that there might be something to that." And like you should call it TRC, man. Like that would that would change that whole narrative. You wouldn't they it wouldn't call you an aging lesbian. I'll let you know how it goes if I get it.
Um Jerry, I have I have a question about the uh the the work life outside of fantasy right now. What What are you working on in terms of, you know, your career, your TV movie career? You're a star.
Yeah, I'm actually uh I'm about to start a movie for uh [clears throat] a little streaming service called Tuby in the new year.
Oh, okay. Um I will be uh I'll be traveling to Cape Town, South Africa for it. Whoa.
Yeah. What's that? I'll be I'll be gone for a little bit. I've never been. I'm going to go visit Mandela's prison. I'm going to do it all. I'm going to uh I hear it's beautiful.
So, what's the role that you're playing? I play a uh it's like a aging lesbian.
Okay. Okay. Nice. Good. No. Um no, I'm playing uh a stepdad. I'm probably going to have to cut my hair and stuff. Uh it's like a teen movie. Um so it's all coming off, but I'm glad that we're doing this cuz uh I I won't be available for the next couple months, guys. Sorry. I mean, people have [ __ ] to do, you know.
Yeah. Can't just sit around Can't just sit around here waiting for PFT to show up.
Yeah. So, I guess that's the uh that's the price we pay for having an A-lister.
When we be back, Jerry, because I actually we we do we do have a plan. Um we're going to do a
I'll be back in February. Oh, all right. So, you're gone for like three weeks. Uh yeah. Okay. [snorts] Um
never mind. You are invited, by the way. You're invited to Max's bachelor party. We're throwing a PMT. I don't care where I am. I'm there. You kidding me? It's the highlight of my life. I'm out of there. I don't care if my children if they're graduating. I don't care if they're giving birth to whatever baby they're carrying. I'm [ __ ] out of there. I'm coming to that.
Okay, great. Great. Teen pregnancy [ __ ] Um, where are we going to do in Cleveland?
Oh, what what are they going to do in Cleveland? I mean, they have to start they have to start Desawn, right?
I I think maybe. I Who knows? I who knows I mean anybody jump in like uh Max means what are they they have to start K Desawn who who's going to take him
I'm worried about the this year's real playoffs we still got football focus on this year I'm not worried about what the Browns are doing in 2027.
That's why Jerry's different though. Six. Yeah. Thank you PFT. Yeah. Listen Jerry I I'm a I'm a fair evaluator of talent.
We're going to get to the USC East. Uh, Jacksonville, all of them. Amazing what an offensive-minded head coach does for a team, isn't it?
I mean, you're you're feeling it in Chicago. Y Liam Cohen, we all made fun of him. You get an offensive-minded head coach, an offensive coordinator as a head coach. Lights out. So awesome. Even Brettton Strange, we're drafting them all.
Yeah. Um, Jerry, I have a question. It seems like right now you're just saying which teams had good years and bad years. What? We're not projecting anything for next year. You're just
Well, no, that's not true. I I I said you weren't listening. Um, now I'm going to make fun of you like you made fun of me with the Ashenti stick.
I was putting the I I had to put the college football. The Bengals The Bengals didn't have a good year.
That's true. Okay, that's true. But they had a good fantasy year. Max, you're on [ __ ] thin ice with me with this whole seaquin thing. You're on my bachelor party. I know. And I know I and I know your your boys coming back on your offensive line and everything's going to change in the postseason. We don't give a [ __ ] about the postseason. We don't give a [ __ ] about the postseason. All we care about is week one through week 17. That's it.
That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. We care about the fantasy post, not the real postseason.
Right now, Max, every time I saw Saquon looked up and he had five points for us in a game, I was like, I'm going to [ __ ] kill Max. I'm going to kill him. This is all Max's fault.
I I get it. I get it. Uh Texans. All right, here we go. Here's a team that had a good a good a good season. We can't draft any Texans. They're too much of a defensive-minded team. They only have to score like 19 points a game, and we can't draft any of them.
Okay. Okay. Uh Colts, um I mean, Tyler Warren's going to be a fun draft. He'll go in the third or fourth round. And I love my tight ends. Tennessee, absolutely none of them. I have no idea how Pard had a 30-point game in a couple weeks ago. That was crazy. Um, [snorts] uh, Denver. I I got to tell you, Dodington is not that great of a quarterback to draft in fantasy. He just doesn't put up major numbers. [ __ ] I really missed R.J. Harvey, though. I missed him in this in this draft.
What do you think about the dog conversation with Bo Nicks? The fact that uh, you know, you know,
I you know, I got to tell you, and I'm going to say something kind of sacriiggious, and this is part of my take, so I'm allowed to have a take. Um, [clears throat] this is kind of a [ __ ] up thing I'm about to say, okay? Um, I think Mr. Herbstreet bringing his beautiful dog, it's a great dog everywhere. I think it's what we call like it's a crutch. Okay. It's like
attention is not given toward you and solely you. Every all attention goes toward the dog.
So you bring the dog around with you as honest obviously an emotional thing. uh you know he travels a lot and he's in hotels and it's you need some sort of like emotional support there but no one looks at Mr. Herb Street, everyone looks at the dog.
Yeah. So any anytime I see content about his dog, I immediately flip past it and turn it off. I don't I don't pay any attention to that.
So I honestly to answer your question, I don't even [ __ ] care. It's like we've got a fantasy team to run. I don't give a [ __ ] about Oh, the dog. There was a weird interaction with the dog and he's scared of dogs. I loved your debate the other day. By the way, uh I um I mean it was too expensive, but I was really interested in getting one of those mats. One of those um
Yeah. M just showed up at my house. My wife said, "What the hell is this? It's three huge boxes sitting in my front door."
Yeah. Was it Kyler that got them? Who got them? Tua. Tua. Yeah. Um I um the other bench quarterback. Um, I um I was really interested in that. But yeah, to answer your question, I don't When it comes to the dog, what's the dog's name again?
Uh, Pete. Is it Pete? I don't [ __ ] care. I don't [ __ ] care. Was Pete the last one?
I don't care. Pete was maybe the last one. I don't know what the dog's name is. Patrick. No.
Might be Pete. This might actually also be instead of doing a diet, maybe we just start walking around with dogs all the time. People don't look at us.
Guys, just [ __ ] go on a GLP1. It's what everyone does in Hollywood. Everyone's on it.
Are you on it? Just [ __ ] stop. No, I'm not. Um, not because of uh cuz it makes you nauseous. And actually, my thing is um I uh if I don't go to the gym, I lose weight. And if you read the comments on YouTube, RIP the comments on YouTube, uh I look like an aging lesbian. So, my whole thing is like I need to like for some reason like continually lift weights and like not look like an aging lesbian. And according to that older gentleman in Calabasas go on TRT.
Yeah. Um Oh, the Chargers. All of them. That offense is just [ __ ] electric. That said, why do I feel like they're going to lose in in the first round of the playoffs? Like it just feels that way, right?
Yeah, it's the Chargers. So that Yeah, it's a it's a safe bet. Um wow. None of the Chiefs. Taylor Swift isn't going to be there. There's no reason to watch. Just none of them. They're going to have some problems.
Mhm. It's going to be like the old days. Uh I think we're all we realize Mendoza is going to be a Raider. We're still in the AFC West here.
Y um that said, you know, he like he likes to throw that short ball. Bowowers is going to be Bowowers going to have a good season.
Genty Max is going to have a good [ __ ] season. I like it. I like it. Max, he was projecting for next year with
I know. And Bowers. Yeah, both of those both of those are good. I just I just want I'm just trying to keep you honest here. Uh, your Eagles, by the way, I got to say, I went to that Eagles Chargers game, uh, the one that Shane went to. Uh, seeing AJ Brown in person is really something special, Max. I do have to tell you, he is
grateful. To see him in person is something really special. He is a He is a really special athlete. [clears throat]
He really is. Agreed. God, from a fantasy standpoint though, that team sucks. [ __ ] me. Saquon really [ __ ] us. Uh, Dallas again. Love. Okay, Max, here we go. Team that didn't have a good season. We love Dallas. Shitty defense, super offense. Love them. We're drafting all of them.
They had a good fantasy season though. Yeah, man. With the Commanders were in the NFC East.
Can't really draft uh Bill Merritt because when Rodriguez is back, that's a sort of like dual backfield.
Yeah. Um it's good for your team. Uh such a bummer about Zack Z. Yeah, I I I I I don't know, PFT. It's not looking good. I thought for sure that you won the quarterback um draft last season, but I don't I don't know.
It's one It's one season, so I I'm still optimistic on Jaden the long term. Do you have any regrets, though? Because it seemed like you were you were dead set on Jaden and you gassed him up so hard.
I feel like you you have to evaluate yourself, right? What went wrong with that?
Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, I got to tell you too, what with uh Liam Cohen and Ben Johnson doing so well, I think having defensive coordinators as head coaches hurts offenses. Sorry.
Um, I I I think um I think from and this is a fantas I'm a fantasy manager. From a fantasy standpoint,
um when you get an offensive coordinator as a head coach, it really helps that offense.
Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. So Jaden is officially you're not drafting him next year, right?
Um I'm not going to say a a term that is uh is is highly offensive. Okay, good.
I just I'm I'm not sure I'm not sure he can give us 14 games a season PFT. [clears throat]
Okay. I'm I'm not sure. What's the overunder on how many games he plays next season PFT? Well, he missed uh I want to say he missed one game his rookie year.
What's the overunder next season on games? Just off the top of your head. The top of my head, I'd probably say 15.
I could work with 15. Okay. But again, you're not you're not allowed to draft them, though. I thought we went through this.
Yeah. Um Hey, let's talk about Giants. You have no real Giants in that room. You're still you're still going to draft them. That's what that's what I'm hearing from you.
I got the jersey. I can't return it until we put it on. I know. It feels like it feels like this might be one of those situations where you think that it's worth it to draft Jaden just so that you can be mad at me if Jaden doesn't play despite the fact that that you did all the expectations on Jaden.
Um guys, we're going to move on. We've talked enough about uh once again guys talking way too much about the Commanders. Really shouldn't be talking about them this far in the postseason. Um let's talk about the Giants for a second. You know what? I may have to become a Giants fan. sorry means just cuz you have no other Giants fans in that room and things could get interesting for that team soon. Um I think their head coach is going to be Clink Kubak.
Oh, okay. And if that's the case, every single Giant becomes a mustdraft in next year's fantasy uh fantasy world.
Mhm. Um I uh now if that dude from the Rams Oh god. Um, he's somebody's son. Who's the defensive coordinator on the Rams? Um,
no, that's uh that's Shawn McVey. Yeah, Chris Schula. Now, Chris Schula becomes the head coach. Um, we're not drafting any offensive players who have a defensive coordinator as a head coach. We're not doing that anymore.
Mhm. Um, but I think if Clint Kubak becomes the head coach of the Giants, I think really good things could be coming their way. Okay.
Scataboo is back. Um gosh, that was such a terrible week 16 with Jackson Dart, though. But Malik Neighbors, you got to remember that everyone was so high on that team before everything went to [ __ ]
Yeah. Um Oh, what happens with Kfka? You think he stays as No. No. We'll see. No. No.
Uh wow, man. I got to tell you, we're moving on to the North. Big Cat Loveland and Caleb, they're the new Leaporta and Golf, man. He [ __ ] did it. I like that.
He [ __ ] did it. They're so fun to watch. Um, Swift is difficult to draft. You have no idea what he's going to give you.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's not uh Yeah, there it's a it's two two backs and you don't know. I I think the Bears will probably try to uh maybe get another running back.
Yeah. And a Dunay is hot and cold. You know, he's been injured. Um Oh god, Green Bay is such a bummer, isn't it? Just about their defense. They're just like limping in. It's just so weird to watch. Um and and you said it the other day, I don't want to repeat, but when Tucker Craft went away, that whole It's funny how a tight end for some quarterbacks like that's it, it's over, you know?
Yeah. Um Vikings, none of them. None of them. It's I don't I'm I guess they're going to have to stick with JJ next season, but I mean, I'm sorry to say this, but nine ruined um a perfectly good offense. a and a an elite offense.
Um Oh, I have a question. Where does Montgomery go in the Lions? He tweeted that. What did we get to the bottom of that photo when he tweeted the photo? Remember he
Yeah, he's not photo of his jersey. Yeah, he's not happy clearly. So, he'd be someone to watch. Love Montgomery. Uh Carolina's just such a bummer. Say T-Mac, everybody. Um I I know Dao had like some numbers, but he's going to have to split carries with Hubard. Um okay. In Tampa, is Zach is Zach there?
No, he's not. He's He's He's not. Um if Clint Kubak becomes Tampa Bay's head coach, then all of them.
Okay. Um uh because BS is not going to be there, right? Probably not. I I Yeah, I don't know. I hope not. Again, we're gonna follow where Clint Kubak goes and then draft everyone that that he is he is coaching.
I like that. That's that's a good forward-looking statement. This is what I like to hear from you, Jerry.
Mhm. Um Atlanta, it's just incredible what he's done in Seattle. I mean, he's like like Liam Cohen, like Ben Johnson, these guys are other level. They're doing things we don't even understand that defenses don't understand.
Um and by the way, doing what he's working with in Seattle, the guy's a [ __ ] genius. Yeah.
Um, uh, Atlanta, I'm just not a Penn guy. Oh god. You know what's so funny about Atlanta? I was thinking I was watching the game the other night and I was thinking, "Wow, their defensive court like Jeff Olrich finally stepped it up." Of course, against the Rams.
Yeah. Um, guys, I mean, remember, hey, Max, do you remember when I when I crank called you and made believe I was Big Dom and said, "Do you want to go to the White House?"
No. Yep. I'm I'm familiar. Remember that, Max? That was so funny. Yep. Familiar. [clears throat]
Then and then you texted me back that video where you went bing bong on Jerry and you were at the White House. That was crazy. Um guys, we should really for April Fools cuz we've been I've been really thinking about April Fools. We should really prank call Jeff somehow.
Okay. Yeah, that's a good idea. I like that. We should crank call him and let him know he's like we should tape it maybe and let him know he's the head coach. like he's like we want him to be the head coach of I don't know of of of the Giants or something. We should do it.
Yeah, we should. We should really [ __ ] get him good. And he can't even get mad at us, can he? Cuz his [ __ ] son, he has to be like, "Oh, it's just kids being kids on part of my
Jerry, I I have a question for you. Uh with the Falcons, Bjan Robinson, was he available when we drafted in the first round?" Um I haven't I I I I glanced at I don't have my computer in front of me. I position
where did we pick? I think we had sixth. I think we had sixth and we took Squan. Um
I got to tell you too, I was also trying to draft with our show. I was trying to say we did it, Max. I thought maybe we would like be celebrating and saying Saquon did it for us, but um Saquon and the Eagles in that offensive line had a terrible year.
Mhm. And in hindsight, yes, we should have drafted Bjon. I mean, I think Derrick Henry went in the second round. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed, guys. I'm I'm not proud of what I've done. I'm not I'm not I'm not even going to
defend myself. Hey, PFT. I don't like this position. I don't like the fact that [ __ ] AWLs get to come up to me when I'm standing in a supermarket line and whisper um whisper, "Chef, you should have asked Chef Deep for help." I I don't like that. It doesn't make me feel good.
No, I know. We have to have just the honest honest conversations. Tough conversations.
Mhm. Um uh the Saints. God, isn't it great? I mean, you said it, so I'm not gonna repeat it, but Al is just reborn.
Um, Shuck is awesome. The backfield is weird because who is it? Esté? Is it Is it Kamar? Um, is it Neil? Um, so their backfield's weird. Jawan Johnson. We're going to [ __ ] draft him.
Okay. It's going to be awesome. Love that. Would Do you have a a vote for your own personal offensive rookie of the year? And if so, who would it be? Chase Brown. Oh. Oh. Oh. Offensive rookie of the year.
Rookie of the year for for this year. It's got to be It's got to be Tyler. I mean, of course.
Make a graphic. Make a graphic. Jerry Oonnell's rookie of the year. If you had a vote,
uh, we are taping this before week 18, but I don't even care. Doesn't matter. Yep.
Um, Seattle. Uh, listen, it's so funny with like Jackson Smith Nigba having the year that he's having. I I do think this is going to change my strategy going into fantasy football.
Mhm. I've been I'm an older person. I know I'm an aging lesbian. I can't wait till there's no more comments on Netflix. No one is allowed to call me an aging lesbian on Netflix cuz there's no [ __ ] comments, AWLs. So, [ __ ] you. No, there there probably will be eventually. Yeah, having a lesbian on our show I think will be good in terms of the Netflix culture.
Um, but my strategy because I'm an older aging lesbian is running back, maybe quarterback, maybe another running back, maybe a tight end, but like I go running back first two rounds.
Okay. with Jackson Smith Nigba's season. I think next year we're going to go round one running back, round two running, round one wide wide receiver, round two wide wide receiver, round three wide receiver. Wow.
I think we're going to go three wide receivers. It's just if you land on a Jackson Smith Nigba, I'm not even having this exit interview. We're We're counting money. Yeah, that's true.
It's just it's just an hour of me counting money. Yeah. Um it's an hour of me getting a new air conditioning system because that's next in my house.
Mhm. Um I think we're going to go wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, which is sort of a new school way of drafting.
I like that. Let's go new school. I like it a lot. Jerry, I don't mean to cut you off in your recap.
It's a pre It's a preview. The the the pre-recap preview. I I don't know exactly what it is, but it it it feels to me here's what I'm hearing. I have I have confidence in you. I'd like to give you a vote of confidence, Jerry, but I would like to be allin next year.
Yeah. I'm talking championship or bust. Yep. No matter what. Yep. Is that something that you'd be comfortable with? That pressure?
Yes. I love that. I love that. All in. We're all in for 26. Yeah. I want every I want I want every day of your life for the next year to be focused around the premise of we're all in. You're all in, Jerry.
Yeah. This year was fluid. Next year's all in. I I do have to tell you guys just based on like the text chain and everything.
Don't know how much more in I could have been this season. You can go more in. You can be inner. Yeah. I really said I spent a good 80% of my days either actively looking on the waiver wires or like thinking about our league. Like 80% of my day. That's a lot of time. I have teenage daughters at home. I have a wife who's like this close to leaving. Like this close. She's like she's meeting one Brazilian man away. She's meeting one like jiu-jitsu instructor away from like leaving me. I like and it has to do with like a lot of my focus is basically just on is Squan going to do anything this weekend? Will anyone take Squan? Is there any way I can get a wide receiver for Seaquan? Like a lot of my time is spent thinking about our league. I I got to tell you, yes, I'm all in, but I'm not sure how much more I have to give than I gave this season. It it sounds to me like you're saying that that second
place in that case like is second place the ceiling if you're as all in? It sounds like you're saying that's the best you can do.
Um I I I think um well in the third round we drafted a quarterback whose uh elbow went uh like I know most elbows go like this but his elbow like this way went like this and he was just that uh that scrambling quarterback was gone. Uh we started him his next start, but that was a mistake because he was in and out of there pretty pretty fast.
Um we lost that week. Um whose decision was it to draft that guy? It was my decision.
Okay. All right. So, but but what I'm hearing though is you sound like you you've hit the the peak like this is all you can do.
And I'm interested to see how that squares with bring me back. I want to win a championship. So, we got to find a way to be more allin than we were.
Yeah. Um, I'm all in. Uh, the Niners and the AC West. Uh, [ __ ] You guys said it. I'm repeating. How good is Brock Perie?
Yeah, he's really good. Oh god. Let me tell you, everybody's in trouble because that guy is healthy going into these next couple months. It's crazy.
Yeah, he is so good. Um, oh, you know what really [ __ ] us? Uh the Devonte Adams injury.
Mhm. We were starting him every week and winning a lot of games with him. He was just an endzone machine.
Yeah. You know, when you have to play Tyrone Tracy in that flex where you were playing Devonte, you're not going to really win a championship.
Yeah. Um man, it's Isn't it amazing how this Super Bowl is definitely going to go through the NFC West? It's just crazy how that that that division um Arizona I mean I guess coach Ganon is coming back even though he struck D Marcato by the way. Uh here's here's a hot take. This is part of my take. I don't condone hitting in the workplace. Like you should never hit anyone, you know.
Yeah, agreed. But what De Marcado did to coach Ganon in that game, uh, I I thought it justified what what Coach Ganon did to him, like just tapping him on the chest like that. I thought he actually could have struck him harder. That really he really [ __ ] over Coach Ganon. He really [ __ ] like they were going to get a win there when they really needed it.
Yeah. And uh I thought he could have actually hit him like harder. Yeah. Yeah. Um don't condone hitting in the workplace. Oh, you know what? I want to root for Marvin Harrison so bad, but it's just it's never happening. All right, guys. Thanks for letting me go through that. Um, you can make your decisions off camera. You could talk to other candidates, you know. Uh, uh, talk to Stavi, talk to Chefy.
Talk to that guy from I have talked to the guy from Third Eye Blind. That was a great interview.
Talk to him. Uh, from Third Eye Blind who was on. I have my Yeah, he was awesome.
Yeah, I have. See what his uh Go ahead. No, see see what he knows and if he's going to listen to uh uh Kelly Stafford's podcast for three days to see if Stafford's coming back to the Rams or not and how his back is doing. See if Yeah. See if the third eye Third eye blond guy will do that.
Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Look around. See if you can find someone who will spend more time on your [ __ ] high stakes fantasy league.
Hey guys, um happy new year the AWLs. Jerry, hold on. I I got a rollback question.
Uh, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on a second. I actually have a rollback. It's a rollback poem that I have here. Rh o bac.com.
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Oh, okay. Okay, this is going to be fun. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. As we say goodbye to YouTube, PMT was fresh air and you were all the breath. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Like, who can forget the time Big Cat pissed his pants right in front of a horrified Marchette?
That's Why'd you put the mic up to the still be on YouTube, by the way? But yes, yes. Yes. Uh, cuz why
don't you put the mic up to your to to your urine? What What were you planning? What What sound were you hoping to get?
Just, you know, interviewing my penis stream. Okay. Yeah. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Such great times on YouTube. Simply put, part of my take was the bomb. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. From Billy football stealing valor to Marlin's man trying to [ __ ] PFT's mom.
Mhm. YouTube. YouTube. YouTube. We love how you report on all the important things that no other journalists will say. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. From Kyler playing Call of Duty to some Houston Texan getting his dick sucked every single day.
Every day. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Seeing Max find love was beautiful and romantic, especially after hearing about all the titties he [ __ ] YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. But no matter how romantic and sweet Max gets, Jake Elliott still [ __ ] sucks. Congrats on the engagement. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Yes, great takes were always had and all the zones all of you always did spin. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube like memes threatening to bomb the or Hank trying to pronounce OGBYN.
Mhm. Ainch. YouTube. Speaking of Hank, so many great moments from Hank that all of you did milk. YouTube YouTube like the time he never paid his taxes or the time he sucked on his sister and lost titties and drank her very own breast milk.
I think it was a bottle. That was I think it was a bottle. [ __ ] crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Got out of the fridge.
It wasn't on the titty. I don't think it was straight from the source. No, not out of the tap. No,
my my version's better. Yeah. YouTube YouTube. We witnessed the birth of a heartthrob, Zach, who makes all the Pilates instructors gooey. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. We witnessed Jake start a career in sports casting, but we still have no idea what happened to Huie. No clue. Hibbity dippity. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. But let us give Zach his flowers. Some would call him the glue of the show or even the conductor. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. And while Zach is really good at making ice cream for Big Cat, what we really want to know is, did he [ __ ] the Pilates instructor? Did you [ __ ] her, Zach? Did you [ __ ] her?
YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. So, we love that everyone is getting paid now, and we love that part of my take is finally getting its credit. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. But if we want to read the comments now, I guess we'll all just have to go to Reddit. Rest in peace, YouTube. Love you guys. That's beautiful, Jerry. Thank you,
Jerry. We are going to get comments on Netflix. Don't worry. You'll be able to you'll be able to see people calling you a lesbian there,
guys. All right. All right. Jerry, by the way, uh rob.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. I want to say right now, I have my vote. It is for you to continue being our manager.
PFT. Oh, I'm doing my vote right now. Um I'm still stuck on the all-in thing. It doesn't sound like you're all in. He can he can wait. We can wait. We have time. I'm just letting you know you have one vote. You have one of the two votes.
It sounds to me like you're afraid of being all in if we're being totally honest. Because you're saying, "Hey, I'm I'm doing all this stuff already. I'm listening to Kelly Stafford's podcast. I'm I'm creeping in the bushes outside training camps. I'm I'm figuring out all the edges." It sounds like you're afraid of being more in. And I want you to get over that.
Okay. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna sit on that. I'm going to I'm I'm going to sleep on that. I'm going to let that simmer for a little bit. Thank you, big cat. Thank you. You're you're so motivating. You really know how to motivate the troops.
Mhm. Well, I mean, we're we're playing. By the way, next time we have one of these meetings, big uh PFT,
like within 40 minutes, like try and be like within 40 minutes of when you call it.
You're clearly a busy man. I have a TV movie to go do in South Africa. Like I have [ __ ] to do, but whatever. 40 minutes. Yeah, I'll I'll wait around for you. I'm sure you were uh you know trying to get the old uh commamino sorted up. I don't know what you were doing like in
uh in a plan of fitness looking for the five looking for the fiveb plates. All right, Jerry, we love you. Great season. Great season.
Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Okay, let's wrap up the show with Firefest of the Week. Back to regular programming next week. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Uh Hank, firefest of the week.
What's up, guys? Missed you guys. Miss Well, we already did the beginning of the show where we talked about how much we missed you.
Uh yeah, I mean, my firefest week, we had we had the week off. It was it was so not not a lot. It was a great week. Got some sun was down in Mexico. Uh my firefest though, which I think you guys have have experienced, too. I wasn't thinking I I was I was going to play golf. I was a little hung over
and I was just excited about going to play golf. I I posted a picture on my story being like big day
first time playing lefty and it was a bad picture and I didn't I didn't think about it. I didn't notice it till I got you know hours hours later and people obviously you know I I there's a lot of trolls and haters where it's it's some you can just write them off as trolls.
You can call them truth tellers. There was a lot of people No, but then this is where it hurts where it's like there's a lot of people that were genuinely like love you. Are you okay? Oh, cuz you were so hung over.
Like, what is wrong with you? Like, you look I looked really old. I think it was bad lighting.
Yeah, it was bad lighting. Bad lighting. But it was Was it outdoors? It was It was indoors, but there was an overhead light right on my face. It was It was It was a bad picture. Objectively bad picture. I looked very very old. And I I got cooked.
Not just cooked by the trolls, but cooked by like people that I think like me that were just genuinely like
concerned. What's wrong with you? I'll send you guys a picture. I got a question. I saw it. Um wasn't your best picture. That's okay. I have a question for you, Hank.
Yes. Um, this year, now that we're in 2026, you are turning how old? 33. So, you could be old.
I am old. You could be old. Not like this was this like you look 45. You know, I was said first round lefty like has has trying to be a lefty aged you 30 years.
Mhm. Mhm. And it was like I, you know, again, it wasn't I'm I'm I'm used to just writing off trolls as trolls. This was like, you could tell from the messages.
Yeah. You look very old. You look you look like you're 60. Yeah. No, it's it's it was it was
the hat, too. Yeah. I mean, that's just that's just a vibe. But, uh, it was it was just one of those. I was like, god damn. Like,
you What is wrong with your torso? I don't know. I was just like a like woken up. I was like, you know, I was hung over. All right, I had some had some wine the night before. I was I was like excited to just go play some golf. And it was like, "Ooh, let's let's post a story for the people." Eight hours later, no one was No one cared about what I was doing. They were just like, "What is wrong with you?"
It's kind of like that boy bent vibe. Yeah, it's like And also the the socks, maybe the shoes. I Your torso is massive.
Yeah, I might have to do it might be I might have to get into skin care. Okay. I might have to do like a skincare routine or something.
And it is bad lighting. The the bags under your eyes are on the right side are pretty pronounced.
Also, you're hung over. Yeah, you're hung over. Yeah, it's a hover over picture,
right? How' the frosted tips look in the sun? They look good. I mean, they looked I they once I got a little tan, I was like, yeah, I I I'm kind of sick of them. I'm probably going to cut most of them off this week. Uh
I might go back. This might just be me now. But once I got a little tan, I was like, "Oh, I kind of like them again."
So, Hank, uh the people want to know though, more importantly, how did the left-handed round go? It went pretty good. Uh, making a decision today, this afternoon on what what what I'm gonna do for my future. But
Friday on Friday. Friday afternoon. Friday afternoon. Are you going live? A big announcement.
I'm gonna make Yeah, the decision on Wow. On live. I don't know. I might make a video. I might do live.
I think it's got to be live. It's got to be live. It's got to be live. Instagram live.
Yeah. How are you going to choose? Are you going to have We will be yakking. But are
you? Yeah. Okay. Are are you going to have like two gloves? Two probably two hats. You should do two gloves and then but then the left one
you select if you want to play right-handed and then the right-handed one you should have your hands underneath your the the table and then you pull out both your hands.
That would be really confusing, but I like that. Mhm. Whatever one that has the glove on for a lefty though. So
So it would be a right hand right glove means that you're going lefty. That's what I'm saying. He brings out the left the left glove.
Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, "Oh, he picked the left hand." Plot twist. That's actually a right-handed golf club glove. Yeah. Which Hanks sometimes do. Struggles with
set it up and then Yeah. Have your hands and then you just reveal it. I like that. I'll do that.
Okay. Perfect. Yeah. It was It was It was, you know, great week. Great time in the sun. Missed you guys.
Miss back. I feel refreshed and recharged. I don't know if you missed You missed us.
I don't think by the third day I missed you guys. I think I think you know after whatever you go. Did you have any of the dread that Zach had?
No. Zach was the fact that we recorded which we were always planning on and we said it's like no problem. You guys are gone. Like it's not a big deal. We're going to do a Monday show and then you guys will be back for the Friday show. But Zach had immense amount I was half expecting him to just get on a flight.
Well, yeah. We Yeah, we had we had the planned time off. I was expecting to do a Zoom show and then you guys like we'll be here. That's just how it goes. I wasn't I I didn't I didn't feel any type of way and it was helpful the Patriots just you know wiping the floor with with the Jets helped like if it
if it was the week before where it was like you know Patriots prime time versus the Ravens I would have been like this I feel like I should be there but
no it was it was Zack go ahead you the dread I thought we were good but then I just saw the chat going and I was like this chat's going in a way of which they're going live and we're not in the seats. Yeah. I was like, "Well,
this can't be good." Yeah. It got to get to the seat. And I was like, "Well, there's no way I'm getting to the seat."
We missed you guys. I missed you guys, too. Yeah. Zack, did you good to be back?
Did you feel any type of of jealousy towards Stephen Chay? Oh, yeah. And Jerry,
I I think they did a great job. It was pretty fun. Were you rooting for him? You got to
Well, that was like one of those things I didn't want. You guys were like we said, we decided this a while ago, so it wasn't like I expected you guys to be here. And it also would have been annoying to text and be like, "Hey, can you guys write a boomer and zoom in?" It's like, "Fuck that. We got Chay and Jerry." And on Sunday night, I think Chay and Jerry are going to be here, too.
Yeah. So, we can use them again if you want us to. And Jerry might have another take that's too hot for the podcast.
Do you have any Hank, do you have any guesses as to what? I was thinking about that. It had to be about Mike Tomlin.
Yeah. Guess. It was so hot. It was definitely too hot. Way too hot. Uh but yeah, the the other thing, you know, with this time of year in the past few years, there there I was like I'm excited for for January football.
Oh, yeah. Going this this time of year when you have a team that's that's has a chance to make a run like there's no better feeling.
Yeah. No better feeling. I'm excited. It is the winter like the Bears season has made it so like I'm not even worried about winter when obviously when and if they get eliminated it will be winter instantly, but it's not winter until that happens.
Mhm. Uh, all right. PFT. I was actually just thinking the other day about Well, my firefest is that I was thinking about the Patriots getting to the Super Bowl and uh and having to pay Hank $50,000.
Oh. And so I I wanted to do something special for it. And my thought was that I would pay Hank in $50,000 worth of quarters.
So I actually called the bank earlier this week to see if we could set that up, how long that would take.
Plus even started. Yeah. But I You got to get ahead. Yeah. if you want to do $50,000 worth of quarters, which I believe is like tons, like maybe
silver. Yeah. So, I I tried to set that up and the bank was like, "Sorry, we can't accommodate that. Our bank isn't our vault isn't big enough
to hold that many quarters in it at once." Uh, so now I got to go back to the drawing board. And there were I I talked to like five different levels of manager. And each person was like, "What do you need this for?" I was like, I might lose a bet to a friend and I want to pay him, but I want to make it a big pain in the ass for him to take the money from me.
625. 625 pounds. Okay. Be a shame if you got that. I think I looked up Nicholls. Nicholls was the ones that that was tons. What's that?
I said it'd be a shame if they don't make the Super Bowl and you're just stuck with $50,000 worth of coins.
Well, I wouldn't have it. But you have to line it up in advance to get a shipment of that many coins.
Yeah. PFT is just in his planning ahead mode right now. He bet the Bucks game today.
Oh, yeah. So that's my other my my other Firefest is uh the days are it feels it's Thursday right now as we're taping is Thursday night Sunday
and about like 6 hours ago we were sitting on the couch we're watching college football I believe
it was like 3:30 it was like 3:30 it was right at the start I think of the uh Indiana yeah Indiana game and I asked the cave I was like what time does the Bucks game start and then Big Cat turned around was like what like Milwaukee Bucks I was like no no football and big It's like it's it's Thursday.
I was like, we're 2 days away. I thought it was Saturday until about 3:30 p.m. today. I I
thought the Rose Bowl was just going up against NFL. I I put in a parlay that I was super excited about earlier today with the Bucks. It was a double McMillan. It was McMillan for the Bucks, McMillan for the Panthers.
Uh I felt really good about it and uh then I found out that it was not in fact Saturday today at 3:30.
But this Yeah, this week's weird. Yeah, it's so weird. Every day just blends together. By the way, you were right with the tons. I I I [ __ ] up that search. Oh, okay. Oh, okay.
I did 50,000 quarters, not $50,000 in quarters. Gotcha. Gotcha. So, yeah, it would accountability.
It would have been very very heavy. And then my my other Firefest is that I'm I'm now addicted to buying mascot costumes.
I bought I love the Twisted Tea video. It was amazing. It was great. I I bought another one today.
Love that. Yeah. Pat. I don't want to say who it is. Pat. I I want to be a surprise for Pat for everybody. I want to be
based off of the the where where your brain is thinking 24/7. Hank, I'm not thinking about you all the time.
It's not It's not Max knows. Speaking of Speaking of uh purchases that are not great, we do have an update on the on the Goats. Uh
oh, I thought those were wonderful. We got them. They're crystals. They might be a scam. So, they came f I'll say this about the go mats because if people remember on Monday we were going through QB gifts and we found uh Tua got glow mats go mats for his offensive lineman. I found them. It was like midnight and I bought three of them. $4,500 is the total. They got to my house in like two days. So,
I think they work. I think they probably don't aren't shipping a lot of them out. So, they're like, "Oh [ __ ] we got an order."
Yeah. But yeah, I think they kind of work, too. Yeah. It's junk science. You just got to believe in it. I felt refreshed.
I like when you lay down on it, there's almost like a crystal feel. Yeah. Underneath you.
So, we're going to start doing a heating pad. No. No. No. Max. I can feel it in my brain. Brain waves, you dummy. Yep.
Yep. My bad. Yep. Alpha, beta, and theta waves. Yep. Yep. Exactly. Okay. My Firefest. I got a couple. Uh I was I was down in Florida with my family for uh Christmas, and one I I tweeted about, "Hey, did you see this one? You like this one?" So, I was sitting at the pool the last day.
It was uh my father-in-law's condo. So, we were at the pool every day and I was sitting there with my kids, watching my kids swim and uh two guys with their kids were walking by me going to the beach and one of them comes up to me and it's like, "Hey, you dropped this." And I was like, "Oh [ __ ] my kids probably dropped something." It was a piece of paper. I opened it up and it was just uh 2015 Duke celebrating winning the national title over Wisconsin. So, they printed it out and handed to me and kept on walking, which I think is the real Yeah. story here is the guys had the like if they had stopped and been like, "Hey, can we get a picture?" I think it would have gone differently. They did not. They gave it to me and walked away.
Also, they're with kids. You're like, "Oh, this is just Yeah. And I yelled at them on the way out. I was like, "Hey, I I thought I had my Coach K fact uh sheet on me, but I didn't have my wallet." So, that one hurt. But also, credit to them. Incredible move.
Did they Did they say anything to you before during the week? Perfect crime. Nope. Perfect crime. It was they played it so perfectly. They did not say anything to me. They didn't like, you know, maybe at one point I was like, "Oh, those guys might recognize me." But I ne it was never that. And then I texted it to Sam Decker and Frank Kaminsky and they both were like, "You got to go to the ocean and drown them." And I was like, I I think you're right. But incredible crime.
If anything, maybe this can just bring up the the discussion of justice for Pete Godette.
Yeah. Yeah. I wish I had the cards on me. I didn't. Um, the other one is is uh pool related as well. Uh, my two-year-old had a he he he pooped in his swim diaper in the pool and it was a whole se it actually didn't get anywhere because he was on one of those floaty things, but the whole condo just hated us.
They have to do shut down. They So, I joked it and by that I mean I went to the front desk and I was like, "Hey,
you covered it up. Someone someone pooped in the pool. Just wanted to let you know." And then I was like, "I did my job. Yeah, I elevated to the right authorities and then walked away.
It didn't get anywhere. Like he had a swim the swim diapers are pretty pretty damn.
What did you do with the tur? No, it was like you could just see he had a poop in his diaper. So, didn't get out, but everyone freaked out and they were just like So, that one sucked. Also,
someone else noticed it. Uh, no. His cousin was like, "Oh, I think he just went to the, you know, he pooped." And was like, "Yep, he did." He was sitting on a floaty thing. Also, I poop my pants, too. So,
have you ever noticed that at the pool? It always says like if you've had diarrhea within the last two weeks, you're not allowed to swim here.
When was the last time anybody here has gone more than two weeks without having diarrhea?
Never. Never. Yeah. Yeah. Bunch of perpetrators. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I pooped myself too one of the nights. Uh, Zach,
um, I farted while I was sleeping and I was like, uhoh. And then I went to the bathroom and there was
So, you pooped the bed? No, it was just in my underwear. There was probably a little no a little bit on the bed.
There might have been a tiny little bit. The next morning I saw a little on the sheet and I was [snorts] like, "Oh no."
Are you a back sleeper? Uh, no. Kind of on my side. Okay. Yeah, it's probably fine.
Did you tell Did you tell your wife that there there was poop in the bed? So, the good news was it was
Or is she finding out right now? No. No. That's what she might be. Because so here's the good news was we were we were staying at an Airbnb and and if you're traveling with little kids sleeping is a [ __ ] nightmare. They in a different house. They're like, "Oh, where am I?" So after the first night, which went horrible, we split it up where my son slept in in the bed with me and then my daughter slept with my wife and the youngest was in his crib. So it was with my son. So we just I didn't have to tell him.
Yeah. No way. That's just dude stuff. Yeah, that's just guys being dudes. Just two dudes in a bed together. One of them have happened to [ __ ] themselves. It happens.
I threw the underwear away. Fine. Perfect crime. Perfect crime. I did the thing where you throw I threw the underwear away and then I like rolled up a bunch of toilet paper and threw it on top of it so no one saw that there was just underwear in the trash.
You gota do It's kind of what I do when I like eat ice cream like a whole ice. You bury that trash. You got to bury that. Everyone buries trash.
That's another thing. And if you travel overseas, like especially to certain parts of Europe, you never know if it's going to be in a country where you flush the toilet paper. Yeah.
Or if you put the toilet paper in a trash can next to the toilet. I heard Greece does the
Some places in Greece you can flush, but most of them you can't. It's crazy. It's really strange. And then you go into a bathroom and you're not sure if it's going to be a flush bathroom or not. Yeah. And then you kind of have to read the context clues. Like you open up the little tiny little lid of the trash can, you're like that.
I think there might be some poop on the toilet paper that's in there. So, I don't know if I can flush. That's one thing. Like, say what you want about about anything when it comes to comparing the United States and Europe. I think some of the alcohol might be better in Europe. We can at least flush our toilet paper after we wipe our asses with it.
And we have air conditioning. And air conditioning. So, there's two huge things.
So, respectfully, you're up. Suck my dick. Yeah, you guys suck. Yeah. All right, Zach, finish this off.
Um, unless memes and Max, do you guys have one? You guys got one? No, I had a good week.
Okay. I didn't really think about it. Good week. Good week. All right, Zach, I got a quick one because I also did have a good week. Uh, it was a great break. Uh, uh, rid share services back home.
Rid share. Yeah, a little ride share issue. I didn't really last couple months here in Chicago, I I used a lot of Uber, a lot of Lift, no car. I did the same in back home, but I ran it was the first time I ran into the same driver multiple days in a row.
Ah, so I had had this one lady, nice lady, we're taking a ride and I've never thought about it being in strangers cars when you take these services until the other day that it is just a stranger's their own car that they take home and take everywhere [clears throat] else. Yep.
So where she's just driving and this, you know, like the vanity mirrors that drop down?
Yeah. Just a spider drops down on a little web, lands on her lap. She like kind of freaks out, goes like two lanes this way into the turning lane, and then she cries a little bit and is like, "Sorry, there's a spider." And I and I was like, "Okay, that's fine. No worries. We're good." And then instantly I could think about is like this stranger's car could just be filled with spiders the entire ride.
Uh did you did you She hit anything? No. Uh no. Cuz that would have been so funny if you got in another car crash.
So So cuz you've been in like eight. Yeah. I get in her car two days later, unbeknownst to me, she she makes a spider joke as I'm getting in. I'm like, "Oh, this is the same lady."
Yeah, this is the lady. Spider car. And then we're pulling out of my uh like street to get on the main road. There's like a two-lane here and then a median like grass concrete. You know what I mean? Yeah.
And then two more lanes. And then she just takes a left straight up onto the median and is on the median. It for like 8 to 10 seconds, which doesn't sound like a long time.
No, that's very like we were really on the median. And then she she goes, "Oh, I hope my tire's okay." And then she goes, "I never do this. I promise I'm a good driver." And I it was a good it was a good realization. Like
as a guy who said, "I promise I'm a good driver several times. I'm not a good driver." That's that's what you say.
I think she had a crush on you. No, she put her life in danger two separate times.
I know, but she was like she saw those eyes and she she was distracted. There was no spider.
I I did get her number just in case I could get THE DASH. OH [ __ ] Just for dash cam footage though. But
would she She has not yet sent it. Was she uh would you date her? Uh I would ride share again but with a helmet.
But you would date her? No, not I don't know about that. What age range was she in?
Uh probably like early 30s. Oh, Zack. I don't I'm not sure. But Zack, but I say all that just to say
if the spider lady care strate, this is a Hallmark movie. Holy [ __ ] This is a PSA that be very careful in ride shares,
but you also PSA could be anything now. PSA, you might get in a ride share and then next thing you know, you're wifed up.
That would be quite the story. Might get your heart stolen. You should you should see if she'll give you a ride, but give your location Chicago. See if she'll come to you.
Then you know, fly around. That would be quite the Uber. It would be. But that would be
Listen, I travel for love, right? Yeah. Yeah. How romantic would that be if she just pulled up to your apartment
in a new car that she like rented here? Yeah. New. So, a spider-free car. You need a ride.
No, I think she's a She's a Bobos. She brings you her own spider. That makes sense.
Yeah. I'll give you a ride, big boy. Were you expecting this story to end this way?
No, it's it's just now ending this way now. This was more about public safety. True. That is true. Yeah,
but dude, Zack, imagine getting imagine getting road head from her, but she's still driving.
She That's That's That's like a porn. That's literally a porn. She's driving your shotgun.
She was so kind. And there's a dash cam, so that would be bad. Okay. Or hot. It might be hot.
That would be really hot. Yeah. I mean, she can't drive worse. I don't know. I mean, she leveled it up the next day.
Yeah. But I'm saying surfing on that medium big guy. Did she blame the spider for the second turn? I would have blamed I would have been like, "Oh, there's another spider." Yeah.
She blamed her window tent. She's like, "I knew this window tent was too dark." I was like, "What?
Is the window windshield wed?" No. She goes, "Look, the front's not too bad." She just had like the strip. And she's like, "But when I'm looking out the side window, I'm like, "Well, this is your car. Like, this is your vehicle."
That's like Jerry. I mean, Jerry can't see out of any any window of his car because the seat's not high enough.
Yeah. And also the window tint. You got to have your own car fine-tuned. We can't be just finding out our window tint's too dark.
You're right. You're right. Okay, good Firefest, boys. Um, let's, uh, wrap up. We got Jackpocket. It's time for this week's lottery ball segment brought to you by Jackpocket, the go-to app for ordering official lottery tickets right from your phone. Megaillions, Powerball, state lottery games, even scratchoff tickets, Jackpockets. Got them all and is an extremely easy to use. 75 people have already become millionaires using Jackpocket. And now, new Jackpocket customers will get $5 in free lottery credits. Just sign up with code PMT2 and opt in. That's code PMT2 for free lottery credits on Jackpocket, America's one number one lottery app. Memes, it's a new year.
You think this is the year you're going to get it? Last two years, the answer was no.
Well, I did guess it. No. No. But this is the year I'll win it. This is the year you're going to win it.
I'm going to win it. Numbers three. Oh, I think that was PSF. No, I think I think it might have been memes.
You think that was memes? I think it was memes. Well, we can check. Let's check.
Memes. Okay. Memes. I didn't even check. Yeah, it checked memes. He didn't check.
He didn't check. I checked. It's memes. He didn't check at all. I'll go 26. I'll go 15. Is that Mendoza's number?
Yeah. 15. I will go 60. I'll go 66. 62 8. Good luck, memes. Thank you. Oh my god. [screaming]
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. IT HAPPENED. HE DID IT. Let's go, babe. We may have to go back and check that.
Max, did you actually check it? I DIDN'T. WE CHECK MAX. NO, WE DID CHECK THOUGH, MAX.
NO, I DO THINK IT WAS ME. WE have to hear. I think it was memes. I do think it was me.
I think it was memes. We got to check it. We got to check it. We got to check it.
Memes. Memes. Step out of the booth. We got to check it. We got to check to see it.
We can until we like to go. Step out of the booth. Oh my god. Memes, let Max look at it. We need
You have to look at it, Max. No, we mean memes. Memes won me. No, no, no. You got to check it.
Got We should check. Got it. But you've got to check. How do we check? I think memes got it.
Check the stream. Yeah, go check the stream. All right, go. Go check. The stream won't do anything because it's We need to check the trash. You can just tell.
You know what? You know what? I'll give it to you. Memes. You got it. Wait. So So not officially checked,
but I'm I'm giving it to asterisk. I'm giving it to me. No. No asterisk. But it's But he's We're Are we checking or not checking?
What do we do with this thing now? We got to get a new machine. We have to get a new machine.
This is the greatest omen that's ever happened in the history of the show. What a year this could be for you memes. The first of the year.
What a moment. You're not nearly as excited as you should be. I'm in shock. You haven't you haven't like said anything.
He was pumped. I never thought it'd happen. I never thought it would happen. I'm
And the fact that you got a first year like cuz you know getting it, you know, I also could barely see it cuz there's just a glare from the clocks.
Oh, it's 13. It was memes. It was memes. No, it's three. It's three memes. Unbelievable.
How many was he away from the record? 25. 25. Oh, Hank. So, who's the uh who's the longest now?
Me. I'm still me. Still Hank. No, but right now, like, who has the who has the longest current streak?
What we got to do is we're going to get a brand new lottery ball machine. Yeah, it's also Hank.
Oh, Hank. Oh, Hank. Hank. It's been forever since you got it. How long has it been since he got it?
988 days. Wow. What? That's not true. No, that's his longest drought. Longest drought. My bad.
320 days since he last got it. Wow. Wow. Hank better not let that drought go any further.
Nah, it does. We got to get We got to get We got to get a new machine. We got to get a new machine. And everyone's got to get the new machine.
Just restarts. Unbelievable. Congrats, man. That is the best omen ever. Ever to start the year.
To start the [ __ ] year. Jets's going to get a franchise quarterback then they're going to win Super Bowl.
Wow. Lamar. Let's not get too crazy. That maybe that'll be the number Lamar wears.
Lamar. What if Lamar wears does anyone wear three? That we got a bet on a three this weekend.
Yeah. Something three is going to come up. What are you thinking about? Oh, Georgia three seed.
Oh yeah. Wow. Memes. I'm happy for you. Love you guys. What? What? What? We're not that happy. And then now the the lottery ball is dead.
No, I'm happy for me. No, we're going to get a new We're getting a new machine.
I'm a winner. Okay. Today, today you're a winner. I won. You are. [clears throat]
No, no. Max, we're going to I'd say by the end of uh by by after Super Bowl, we'll probably have a new machine that we can christen.
I'm very gone. And that I saw it. It just dropped there. And then the new machine will literally just be a race to see who can who who is the last to get it. It just repeats itself.
I'm very happy for memes, but I'm very I'm upset that we don't have anybody to bully.
Well, again, Hank is the longest drought by far. Yeah. Ever. Still days and guesses.
Not even really close either. Not even close to close. No. 988. This also just means
404 guesses. What? Everyone's open to get to get the treatment. Oh, no. the the calendar year. It actually makes it more fun because it becomes a race.
Only one person this calendar year. Good point, Hank. Oh, I'm excited. Congrats memes. I am happy for you because it had to happen.
Wait, have you guys got it this year? Calendar year memes. Have you got it this year?
I have not. I've not got it. No, you're right. I have not. You have. Yeah, you have. Yeah, you have.
Yep. Unless PFD said it before you. [snorts] This is fantastic for me. For me. And think about the guy who just tweets at you every single day.
Could you imagine if if that guy's girlfriend? Oh my god. Is that guy's girlfriend?
Oh man. Could you imagine if PFT actually said it first? I didn't. That would have end. No. No. No. No. No. Yeah,
you didn't. But I'm saying like if you just said it a little bit earlier and you actually beat him.
Well, Big Cat said the word number, but he didn't say numbers, which is why I had to stop myself earlier.
I would have had you on that one. But yeah, listen, honestly, when when we said it, I thought like 75% chance memes beat me. And then as I started to think of what that would look like if memes got it and then we went to the video tape and it was me. I gave it to memes strictly out of self self-preservation.
That's why when you asked me, I I didn't even look. I just memes. I There's no there's no upside for being on the
I saw it on the I thought I I might have been murdered. Uh, so congrats memes. Uh,
I didn't even think about it. No, you got it. You actually got it. Yeah, that one sucked.
I got I got a number three for you. What? Russy. Is Russy playing? No, I'm just saying he wears number three. Just he like he likes New York.
He does. Russy on the Jets. Nope. Nope. Jets also probably going to have a third overall pick.
Oh, okay. It's big stuff. Memes congrats. Huge. Love you guys. Winner.
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What is discussed in "OHIO STATE, GEORGIA & BAMA GO DOWN + JERRY O’CONNELL FANTASY FOOTBALL EXIT INTERVIEW"?
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