Clintons Clash With Comer Over Epstein Testimony w/ Rep. Jared Moskowitz | PBD #733

What this episode is about

The discussion centers around the contentious relationship between the Clintons and Rep. James Comer regarding Jeffrey Epstein's testimony, featuring insights from Rep. Jared Moskowitz. The conversation touches on Moskowitz's unconventional style as a congressman, his controversial voting record during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the differing political climates of California and Florida.

Key takeaways

• When Congressmen wear J's instead of loafers, fashion sense trumps protocol—America, take notes!
• With $2 trillion evaporated since October, crypto's rollercoaster is a thrilling, yet terrifying ride.
• Amazon's 10% drop proves even giants stumble; it’s not just the economy, but perception that matters.
• Hillary wants a public hearing; could this be the ticket to a political drama series?
• From Wallab to White House, old-school style is making a comeback—embrace those 'old man's shoes!'

Who speaks in this episode?

• PBD (Host) · 1 h 31 min speaking
• Rep. Jared Moskowitz (Guest) · 1 h 1 min speaking
• Adam (Guest) · 15 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 15:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Bill Gates, Iran
2. 15:00 – 30:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Bill Gates
3. 30:00 – 45:00: Bill Gates, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Melinda Gates
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00: Jared Kushner
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00: Iran
6. 1:15:00 – 1:30:00: Venezuela, Bill and Hillary Clinton, China
7. 1:30:00 – 1:45:00: Las Vegas, China, Wuhan, Venezuela
8. 1:45:00 – 2:00:00: Jeff Bezos, Amazon, Washington Post, Las Vegas

Notable quotes from "Clintons Clash With Comer Over Epstein Testimony w/ Rep. Jared Moskowitz | PBD #733"

• Like. We're trying to figure this part out. And the other part that we like about this guy is back in the days during COVID, he was one of 11 Democrats who voted to end what was it?

  about COVID-19 · at 1:21

• At the same time, yesterday the president was complimentary about Bill Clinton. He says, I don't like how they go after Bill sometimes. they kind of give him a hard time too much.

  about Bill and Hillary Clinton · at 3:36

• That's been placed on Kouchi on that. So we'll see. Maybe JD's trying to get back in the mix. Trump says Iran's Ayatollah should be very worried. I don't know if you guys saw…

  about Iran · at 5:22

• Which is your husband shouldn't put something in the drink so she's upset she was in an interview. Bill Gates has some regrets about his relationship with Epstein and then there guys there's so I have 50 stories on Epstein I don't even know.

  about Bill Gates · at 7:11

• With this? Let's go through here. Let's start off with the first one here. So, Hillary Clinton and James Comr are going back and forth. And this is the tweet from 23 so hours…

  about Hillary Clinton · at 11:07

• But where I'm going to is I actually think Melinda, maybe not the Epstein stuff. Melinda kind of knew this guy's the richest man in the world I'm about to marry. I probably…

  about Melinda Gates · at 33:23

• Because to your point, it's not a top story, right? We're not educating the voter. China controls 80% of the world's critical minerals. Putting aside that we need those things…

  about China · at 1:41:33

• Wapo fires over 300 journalists. Damn as Jeff Bezos discriminated against white workers allegedly. Okay, wait a minute.

  about Jeff Bezos · at 1:45:24

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Bill and Hillary Clinton — Person · Referenced political figure (former president) · 20 mentions · first at 3:37
  Discussed in connection with a potential Oversight Committee hearing and alleged ties/appearances in Epstein-related materials; also referenced via Trump's comments about liking him.
• Hillary Clinton — Person · Referenced political figure (former secretary of state) · 9 mentions · first at 11:11
  Central to the segment about whether a congressional hearing should be public; portrayed as pushing for transparency and challenging Chairman Comer publicly.
• Bill Gates — Person · Referenced business/philanthropy figure in Epstein discussion · 9 mentions · first at 7:14
  Discussed regarding regrets about association with Epstein and allegations surfaced in 'files'; contrasted with why a billionaire would associate with Epstein at all.
• Melinda Gates — Person · Referenced public figure (philanthropy) in Epstein/Gates segment · 4 mentions · first at 7:03
  Her interview reaction is used to frame the emotional and moral dimension of Epstein-related allegations and the impact on spouses/families.
• Jeff Bezos — Person · Referenced business figure (media owner) · 4 mentions · first at 1:45:27
  Discussed as owner of The Washington Post in the context of layoffs and the declining newspaper business model; framed as a narrative-control vs business decision tension.
• Jared Kushner — Person · Referenced political figure (Trump family / adviser) · 2 mentions · first at 14:34
  Mentioned as an example of how congressional precedents could later be used to subpoena Trump-world figures; also referenced jokingly about 'stolen land' follow-up.
  This will be the CMR legacy. And so when Jared Kushner or Eric or Junior or their kids are, sitting in Congress in depositions, they can blame James Comr for creating this legacy. And there are Democrats. It's not me because.
• Elon Musk — Person · Referenced business/tech figure · 1 mention · first at 40:12
  Mentioned in relation to the SAVE Act voter ID debate and as another high-profile name appearing in Epstein-related materials (as discussed by speakers).
  Is that he was curating people of power and it became, it became leverage over these people. Elon is in the files, right? Like if you look at who these people are, right? The…
• Marco Rubio — Person · Referenced political figure · 1 mention · first at 4:51
  Discussed in the context of rising political stature and as an influence on foreign policy direction (Iran segment mentions 'Marco is leading him').
  Although, people are downplaying Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is coming up. Let me tell you, Marco Rubio is kind of making a name for himself.
• Bernie Sanders — Person · Referenced political figure · 1 mention · first at 6:29
  Brought up as a critique/irony story about campaign spending on private jets, used to comment on hypocrisy and political branding.
  I don't know why socialists are upset at that. what's wrong with that?
• Michael Rapaort — Person · Referenced celebrity (name misspelled; likely Michael Rapaport) · 1 mention · first at 1:15
  Used as a humorous aside about the guest's rumored like/dislike; not central to main topics.
  There's rumors he may or may not like Michael Rapaort. I don't know what's going on over there. May not like. We're trying to figure this part out. And the other part that we like.

Companies & orgs

• Amazon — Company · Business focus · 4 mentions · first at 3:06
  Mentioned in relation to its ownership of the Washington Post and its business decisions.
  The Washington Post, owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, began widespread layoffs on Wednesday in a move that would drastically shrink the size of the newspaper. That's according to a.
• Washington Post — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at 1:46:08
  Discussed in the context of layoffs and its ownership by Jeff Bezos.
  The Washington Post, owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, began widespread layoffs on Wednesday in a move that would drastically shrink the size of the newspaper. That's according to a.

Places & events

• Iran — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at 5:26
  Discussed in the context of geopolitical tensions and potential US intervention.
• COVID-19 — Event · Core topic · 4 mentions
  Mentioned in the context of its origin and impact on global health and politics.
• China — Place · Setting · 3 mentions · first at 1:29:10
  Discussed in relation to its global influence and the origin of COVID-19.
• Las Vegas — Place · Setting · 5 mentions · first at 4:06
  Mentioned in the context of a Chinese-linked biolab discovery.
  Trump administration halt small business loans to foreign nationals requiring full American ownership. Chinese linked bolab discovered in Las Vegas home sparked federal…
• Wuhan — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at 1:38:33
  Mentioned as the origin location of COVID-19.
  Put so much money into it. China has so much control over everything that's made. Like 90% of medical ingredients come out of China by comes out of Wuhan out of all places. Weird.
• Venezuela — Place · Setting · 5 mentions · first at 1:18:16
  Mentioned in the context of US intervention and geopolitical strategy.
  No, I actually think if you look at what happened in Venezuela, right, which from a military standpoint, whether you, I argue that, the president doesn't have that ability to.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:05 seconds. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever sign. It's right here.

0:22 You are one of my son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before. I bought Clarks and somebody's like, "Why would you wear old man's shoes? You don't wear Clarks. You're young." I'm like, "Wait a minute." I used to make something called the Wallab.

0:36 Okay, folks. We have a uh we have a lot of things going on here. People are fighting out here. Mike, are you good? You sound like you're about to fall.

0:43 Mike is beating somebody up. You okay? All right. Sounds good. Very aggressive.

0:46 Lots of things going on. And we have a very interesting guest with us here. I don't know how. You know what? Let me give you some facts about this guy. Number one, he wears Jay's in the chamber.

0:57 Nice. And I'm talking like when he goes to the White House, you know, they go to the chamber, all these congressmen are together, he wears Jason, and they say nothing to him because they're required to wear closed toe shoes. So that's that's considered

1:08 closed toe and he likes to follow uh guidelines. But there's a few other things about him that we need to know about. There's rumors he may or may not like Michael Rapaort. I don't know what's going on over there. May like, may not like. We're trying to figure this part out. And the other part that we like about this guy is back in the days during COVID, he was one of 11 Democrats who voted to end uh uh uh what was it? The the COVID na, you know, national emergency. He was one of 11. Not popular.

1:38 Love it. If you're on that side. So, California Democrats don't like this guy. Some of them probably like him. I don't know. I'm just saying it's a different Democrat in Florida than it is in California. I got a bunch of other things I can say about him, but uh voted for Liberman if I'm not mistaken. I got a bunch of other things here. Anyways, it's great to have you on the podcast.

1:55 Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Great to have you on the podcast. Adam's got a lot of good things to say about you.

2:00 I wrote him. We had to get a briefing from Adam. Adam said he's a good guy. He's this. He's that. So, if you need an agent, if you

2:08 We met at the White House a month ago. We did. Had a good conversation. And I said, "You should come on the podcast." He said, "Let's do it." And here we are. Something tells me you guys get along because Muskovit Sausnake like there's something going on there.

2:20 I'm not understanding what you're saying. Exactly. He's saying he's saying at some point our fate is the same.

2:25 Exactly. I'm betting on Jesus right now. Some there's apparently something going on.

2:29 Said you said you were both Irish. Okay. So, storywise, what's going on? A lot of weird things going on, folks. If you if you had money in AI or Bitcoin or XRP or anything since October when crypto hit hit its highest, $2 trillion of wealth has been wiped out. Okay, just yesterday $600 billion was wiped out in the stock market in equities. We're not talking crypto. I think 6700 mill billion dollars was wiped out this week from crypto. Bitcoin is down to 60,000. A lot of people are panicking. We'll talk about that. I'm sure there's some thoughts on what's going on uh there.

3:06 Amazon stock falls 10% uh on $200 billion spending forecast earning missed uh all the layoffs. That's a concern. A lot of people are talking about the layoffs. Clintons come out. I think it's a back and forth on Twitter with Hillary specifically, not necessarily Bill. Rob, if I'm not mistaken, it's more Hillary Hillary than it is Bill asking. They want the hearing to be public. Comr wants to do it private. She wants it to be public. I don't know if this is posturing. I don't know what's going on. At the same time, yesterday the president was complimentary about Bill Clinton. He says, "I don't like how they go after Bill sometimes. You know, they kind of give him a hard time too much."

3:45 So, he is so interesting with the things that he does. We'll cover that as well. Uh, what is Save Act? CNN Save Act. CNN polling finds strong voter ID support among black Americans and other groups. We'll cover that as well. And a few other stories that we got here. Trump administration halt small business loans to foreign nationals requiring full American ownership. Chinese linked bolab discovered in Las Vegas home sparked federal investigation with SWAT response. Then you got Karen Bass. She was not happy. Secretly altered Palisad's fire analysis. No to downplay LA's failure. Now, of course, that would never happen in LA. This is allegations allegedly, who knows, will address that.

4:33 Jason Vance somehow someway is choosing to lead California's anti- fraud task force. I wonder why they signed him

4:43 to go and do this to California. Maybe I don't know what this is. Maybe it's like a 2028 matchup prediction. Although, you know, people are downplaying Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is coming up. Let me tell you, Marco Rubio is kind of making a name for himself. The other day when we're in DC talking to people, it's interesting who was saying they they're more Rubio than JD. And maybe JD is trying to say, "Hey, man. I got I got some power here as well." And JD has come down a little bit. Rubio's come up a lot. So, we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen.

5:13 This is Koshi, next US presidential election winner. And we're talking10 million dollars of predictions that's uh that's been placed on Kouchi on that. So we'll see. Maybe JD's trying to get back in the mix. Trump says Iran's Ayatollah should be very worried. I don't know if you guys saw the tweet yesterday. I'm sure you got some thoughts on Iran as well. We'll come to you. They said yesterday US any US citizens that are visiting Iran, get out.

5:40 Get out. You know, it's not the weather. Apparently, there's going to be bad weather coming in, like a bad storm is coming in, allegedly, and we'll see what that storm means.

5:48 Uh, White House has confirmed that Dodgers will attend World Series ceremony. Good for them for attending.

5:55 Apparently, the Japanese get along with the president because half that team is Japanese at this point. I'm sure it seems like Dodgers want to sign anybody and everybody from Japan. You guys have a monopoly. There's a lot of words I can use with Dodger fans out there, Tom. I don't appreciate it. But for now, I'll be settled because cameras

6:12 27 already they're going to be at the White House. No, no, no, no. This is for last year's

6:16 Mr. Get the threepiece. Minority owner of the Yankees. A little Trump slams Caitlyn Collins for not smiling enough. And

6:25 you know, Vinnie has some reasons why he thinks she's not smiling enough. I don't know what's going on there. Bernie Sanders spent over $550,000 in 2025 campaign funds on private jets. I don't know why socialists are upset at that. I mean, what's wrong with that? Like what's what's wrong with uh you know traveling private? Bernie's trying to get somewhere faster.

6:43 He's famous and you know he's made a lot of money and there you know it's like efficiency right

6:48 if you're going to fight the billionaire who flies private you got to meet them where they're at.

6:53 That's all I'm saying talking about Jar. That's all I'm saying. All right. So that's where it is.

6:57 Musk says says a save act requiring ID to vote must be done or democracy is dead. Melinda Gates is not happy. Some stuff happened. someone was trying to put something in her drink and that someone was apparently her ex-husband which is your husband shouldn't put something in the drink so she's upset she was in an interview. Bill Gates has some regrets about his relationship with Epstein and then there guys there's so I have 50 stories on Epstein I don't even know where we'll we'll go Epstein and then we'll see what direction we'll go Kira Starmer there's a cow sheet today that just popped up that they're talking about when he's going to be stepping out or not. I don't know if you guys saw this one. So is he stepping stepping out? It's pretty nasty because of the next. Yeah, it's not good. So we'll see what happened there. ICE updates. Trump overseas lowest level of illegal immigration at the border in over 50

7:48 years. But he does not believe that his team is doing a good job at public relations. Maybe he's right. And then we got a few other stories here. Hopefully we'll get to it. Woe. A lot of people are unhappy with this guy named Jeff. They're not happy with him. They're just not because he fired not just 300 employees. He fired 300 journalists. Not editors, not designers, not copywriters, not any of that stuff. Journalists. Like that's it's like saying h firing 300 engineers and your job is coding. They fire 300 journalists. It's a mess over there at WPO. Who knows? Maybe it's going to be on sale and somebody's going to be able to pick it up. Uh and then a reporter confronts Billy Isish at her house saying, "Can you please move? You're on stolen land." And uh she refused. I don't know why she refused to move. And it was like a big deal.

8:36 I'm still trying to get all my stuff back from Poland and Germany on the houses and the paintings that were taken.

8:41 Yeah, weird. Maybe one of these days stolen land happens. Stolen land. We're going to follow up with you, Jared. Keep your hopes high. Something could happen there.

8:48 All right. Uh um having said that, let's get right into it. Jared, take a minute. Share with the audience what your background is and what you do.

8:54 So, I'm I'm from Broward County, born and raised. Family was from Brooklyn, came down here. Uh my grandparents retired here. I went to Marjorie Stoman Douglas High School, you know, where the horrible shooting was at. I got elected really young. I got elected to the Parkland City Commission when I was 25. I was the youngest elected official in the state at the time. And, you know, the rest is really history. Wound up in the state house. I was there during the shooting. And then this guy, Ronda Santis, won uh for governor. I didn't vote for him, didn't support him. Uh supported the other guy, but they came to me and asked me to become the director of emergency management for the state of Florida because that was my background in the private sector. I was doing uh emergency management. And so, you know, I didn't want to take the job because I was like, how am I going to go work for a guy I I fundamentally

9:36 disagree with? But then I, you know, I talked to those parents that, you know, buried their kids because government, if you look at what happened in Parkland, government failed those parents. They had the FBI had hits on the kid, the school board did, you know, the sheriff's office. Um, and so I I took my political hat off and I went to go work for Ronda Santis for two and a half years. I led the entire COVID response for the state of Florida. uh when I think we got CO right more than any the other 49 states. Um and then he appointed me to the Broward County Commission. I'm a I'm a twiceapp appointed Ronda Santis Democrat as my socialist opponent likes to point out.

10:08 Um and then after after that I ran I ran for Congress. Uh and so you know that's that's kind of the the history. You know my wife is from here. You know my kids uh you know we're we're we're all here. We love we love Florida.

10:20 Respect. And by the way, didn't did you get approached by the administration to run FEMA? Was there some talks with you and FEMA?

10:28 Yeah, I mean, look, I I I met with the folks, I'm not going to go into the details, but you know, I met with the folks at the highest level uh on on whether they would be interested uh and I would be interested uh because I do think the president was was right that FEMA needed reform and I was interested in reforming it. Um but unfortunately, that's not the direction that Gnome has gone with FEMA. She's she's basically just dismantled it.

10:51 Yeah. Okay. So, this is a little bit of background with our friend here, Jared. With that being said, let's get right into it. Rob, what is a top story the audience wants to talk about?

11:00 Uh, the Epstein files. I hadn't heard about that. What is that? What is that? Okay. What direction do we want to go with this? Let's go through here. Let's start off with the first one here. So, Hillary Clinton and James Comr are going back and forth. And this is the tweet from 23 so hours ago that got 14 million views for 6 months. We engaged Republicans on the oversight committee in good faith. And we told them with we know under oath. They ignored all of it. They move the goalpost and turn accountability into an exercise on distraction. So let's stop the games. If you want this fight, James Comr,

11:37 let's have it in public. You love to talk about transparency. There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing. Cameras on. We will be there. Straight up. Hillary Clinton. President Trump comes back and says he doesn't like the fact that it bothers me. Rob, I think you got a clip on this one. If you want to play it, go for it.

12:01 But it bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clinton.

12:07 What do you like about him? Uh, I liked Well, I liked his behavior toward me. I thought he got me. He understood me. Okay. So, and by the way, I think this is the interview they're doing for halftime Super Bowl, which he was actually impressed. He liked the interviewer apparently that they went back and forth. So, Jared, what do you think's going on over here with James Come, Hillary Clinton, and the president?

12:31 Well, first of all, I love the president's answer, right? What what do you like about Bill Clinton? I like that he likes me. WE KNEW WE KNEW THAT was the first answer. And then he went deep with it. He was like, I feel like Bill Clinton really gets me.

12:44 Yeah. I'm like, oh, oh, that deep. He then he he then later on in that interview, he says that uh you know, Bill Clinton was telling everyone, you don't want to run against Trump. So, you know, Bill Clinton's also his campaign adviser, uh, apparently. Look, I I think what's going on with this, I have a lot of history with COMR. I used to be on the oversight committee uh during the uh Biden impeachment. Remember that? they were going to impeach Joe Biden, which they never did because Comr never found any evidence. Uh he called me a smurf once uh in in

13:13 So you guys have history. You and COR. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like I've been small. I've been short like for 45 years, but this guy thought like, oh, he's going to point it out and somehow that's going to get under.

13:21 How tall is he tall? Is he a 6'5? He's tall. I mean, you know, I And he's he's just a terrible chairman of oversight. He once said to me, I don't know if you know this, Jared, but I'm like the largest land owner in my county. And I was like, you know, Mr. chairman. We don't value people anymore and how much land they own. That's like an old metric, you know, that that we used to do. But

13:40 where is he? Out of Kentucky. He's out of he's out of Kentucky. You know, he his own colleagues don't have a lot of respect for him because of the failed impeachment. Just really embarrassed himself. Uh but, you know, he's still the chairman. He's I'm told he's a fantastic farmer. So, I'm happy for him. You know, value our farmers. Love our farmers. Um and but I'll tell you this. I I think he's overstepped what's going on.

14:03 Tell me why. And I think that's why the president's saying what he's saying. This is a really bad precedent for the Republicans. So you're now going to bring in a former president. Congress is going to bring in a former president in front of committee. You know whose antenna went up with that right away? Trump's. Trump's antenna went up with that. Not just Trump's, but maybe like Trump's kids. Maybe like Trump's extended family. Okay? Because I can tell you there are Democrats that are salivating at what Comr just did here.

14:30 And this will be the COMR president. this will be the CMR legacy. And so when Jared Kushner or Eric or Junior or their kids are, you know, sitting in Congress in depositions, they can blame James Comr for for creating this legacy. And there are Democrats. It's not me because I don't I don't like this part. I think the weaponization of this is this is not what America is about where we bring in our political opponents, you know, and we try to use the official process. Uh we're seeing it more and more and this is what happens in Congress. It's like high school. One side escalates and it's just more escalatory behavior.

15:05 Do you think COMR and the president are speaking and the president saying to back off a little bit or

15:09 I don't think you're speaking directly, but I I I view the president's comments that he he doesn't like what's happening to Bill Clinton. Okay. It's a shame is what he said. I think that's a message to the people in Congress like you do this, you understand they're gonna if Democrats take the House in November. There are very progressive chairman uh that are can't wait to use this president on the administration.

15:35 Now, now what if the other side says, "What are you talking about, Jared? They they they put 91 felonies on the guy. They tried they got him a mug shot. What could be worse than what they did to Trump? This is like 1/100th one 1,000th of what they did to him?" Trump actually says that in the interview. He goes on in that interview and he says, you know, they did it to me. They tried they tried to do it to me and and funny usually, you know, Trump who's, you know, taking some retribution on some of those folks that that did that. He he doesn't have that towards the Clintons. He says Hillary's very capable in that interview. So, he doesn't have it towards the Clintons.

16:08 Why do you think I think they've known each other a long time, remember? They're both from New York, you know, and I think he I think Trump mutual respect. mutual respect. I think Trump's also a guy that like if he likes you, he likes you. And I think he likes Bill Clinton and but I I think his team recognizes they may lose the house. Uh and there's a lot out there, right? There's the Qatari plane, there's the UAE investment, you know, there's all the crypto stuff, you know, there's a lot there. Uh and there's all the Epstein stuff. I mean, Trump's name, whether, you know, there's evidence or not evidence, Trump's name appears more times in the Epstein files than Harry Potter's name appears in the seven books about Harry Potter. Okay? And so, you know, this is if this is where they want to go, this will come back to them in in 11 months when Jeff is the speaker.

16:55 Well, discovery is a two-edged sword. Um, and this is why big lawsuits with large corporations usually they don't want to get to trial. They want to get to some sort of a settlement because Discovery can dig up other things and you go down other rabbit holes. Um I think there's something going on behind the curtain here, you know, and for Hillary to say cameras on, we want to be there. The question is what does Hillary want to say for those cameras? Uh what does she want to bring up for those cameras? and everybody. The one truth of the Epstein files, there's one simple truth is that powerful people around the world have been trying to get their their proxies and people in there to keep these from coming out. Now we see why. All the way from the royals in Britain to the top of prominent law firms in the United States, people resigning. And I don't think anybody the the timing is Pat, don't you think

17:51 timing is a little coincidental here? the Epstein files come out the next drop. And suddenly the Clintons go from silent, you know, kind of a, you know, we'll we'll we'll we'll bring them up in contempt. James Comr saying, "We'll bring him up in contempt." Clinton's silent, speaking through proxy, saying very little. The files come out and she's like, "Okay, you want a hearing? Let's have a hearing. Get the cameras on."

18:13 What are you saying, though, Tom? What are you saying? I think I think she's sending a warning to people. Says, "I could say things. We know things. You know, we know things. Do you want to go down this?

18:24 Oh, I think I think there's a piece of that because by the way, Hillary is not in the files. There's no pictures with Hillary, right? The Hillary is not a part of this. There are pictures of with Bill. We've all seen them, right? So, the Republicans including Hillary in this was, you know, them was an overreach. It had nothing to do with the Epstein subpoena. It was like, oh, you know what? Let's just try to do Hillary, too, you know. And so, Hillary's like, you want to bring me in? No problem. I'll have that game. And what she wants is she wants to show that she'll come publicly. Hunter Biden did this too when they wanted to subpoena Hunter. He showed up to a hearing and Republicans wouldn't let him let him talk in the hearing. Hillary wants the American people to see with the cameras. What Comr has been doing is he likes to do these depositions in a basement. And then he comes out mid deposition to the

19:10 camera and says, "Here's what's going on in the room." Right? So he can set the stage. So he can set the stage. This is an old tactic. Both sides have used this when we do these depots. But in a public hearing, you don't have that. You also have, you know, 20 Republicans, 20 Democrats. They're all asking questions. It's a very different, let me say, show than a deposition in a room that you then can go out to the American people and say, "Here's what happened in there."

19:36 Jared, it's 2020, no matter who's a majority at the time, 20 Republican, 20 Democrat.

19:41 No, the Republicans have more more members because whoever has more seats gets more 25. Okay, I got 25 to 20.

19:47 Where you at with this? Where you at with this? Tom say just in the modern news world private hearings like that is a dirty business whether you're Republican or Democrat because intentional leaks come out and spin what's really being said and the witnesses are bound not to speak. So you have to go to your private deposition

20:05 dirty move on both sides. It is it's dirty on both sides. Can you choose to say I don't want to do it private I want to do public or they force you to do whatever they want to do.

20:12 That's what's happening. So what so for the last 6 months they have been negotiating on just the format. That's the That's the disagreement here.

20:19 They negotiating is who? Clinton's Clintons with COMR. The lawyers have been negotiating a format, right? So like let me give you an example because I've been in these negotiations before. So the Clintons will say, "Well, the subpoena's on Epstein. We won't it's so the questions can only be on Epstein, right? No Whitewater, no history."

20:35 Correct. And Comr will say, "No, no limitations on topics." Well, the Clinton say, "Well, we're not going to agree to that." Okay? Because it's subpoena's on Epstein. We're not going to talk about everything. And then they'll say, "Okay, you're going to get three hours with Bill Clinton. you're going to get three hours with Hillary and Commer said, "No, no, I want unlimited time with both of them." Well, the Clintons are not going to agree to that either. Right? And so, this has been going on for six months. They've not been able to agree on how this will work. By the way, this is happens in every time they bring in a highlevel witness, right? They subpoena someone.

21:05 These are the negotiations that go on. Uh, and so I think Comr has moved the goalpost several times. Comr sent a demand letter to the Clintons. Okay? They originally didn't agree with everything and then after this went back and forth, they eventually after Comr said, "Well, then I'll hold you in contempt." Then the Clintons came out and said, "Okay, we will agree to every request in your letter."

21:25 And then com said, "Well, I have some additional requests now." And right and then it's all factual. It's all factual.

21:31 But so so but but who has the leverage to make it private or public? This does comr can make it private or public. The other side has to listen to it.

21:39 Correct. Totally up to Vinnie. Go ahead. Well, I with all I mean there's so much to to unpack and I think going to the root of it. Number one, all these people, all these powerful people for the fact that they're saying Hillary has that type of attitude and that type of gall that means everybody has some dirt on them at some point. Jared, you you mentioned Trump all I I have a feeling everybody at some point did something wrong. And in regard to these people, these powerful people, especially Bill Gates, emailing with your actual email, Bill Gates and what like how ignorant number one, but what I think people are failing to understand or grasp Jared is the victims, all these millions and millions of files, the young girls or the young boys. We're finding out all the tunnels. I saw a video of a tunnel underneath Epstein Island that went to the water. There's a trap door that just went down to the ocean like it's

22:26 freaking shark food. People aren't understanding that. The saddest part that's it right there, Pat. that was in the house from the back of the house. You just dump the freaking body in there or what is somebody going to go skinny dipping in that? Does that look like a skinny dipping thing? I think it comes down uh to the kids. And I mean now, and I'd mentioned this earlier, remember, and I know they want to call this the C-word back when Pizzagate, if you look at the tunnels and the underage kids and the pedophilia and all these people connected, it doesn't seem that far-fetched right now. So, I feel like everybody has some type of dirt on them.

22:57 Shame on every single one of them. God have mercy on their souls because they're going to have to pay when it comes to these children cuz nobody's talking about that. I saw photos of him eating like biting a kid's butt. Pat, I ai checked it three times. Epstein was around little children in pools chasing little girls. And where are these people? Where are these kids? You know what I mean?

23:16 No. No. First of all, this is why Congress took that vote and forced this stuff to come out.

23:22 Okay. Like we we we were for we were trying to force this stuff to come out because the victims do need justice. There should be justice for the victims. Epstein was the worst of the worst of the worst. And clearly, right, all of these people are in the files. Now, just because you're in the file doesn't mean you're guilty. Okay? But clearly some of these people were there. This idea that oh only Epstein did this and no one else, zero people,

23:49 right, else participated. No one believes that. And and Jared, how so and especially great point, Jared, once once he was arrested for sleeping with underage girls in prostitution and and and Lloyd, whatever the the case was, they're still hanging out with him. If, for instance, if, God forbid, Tom did something and had that type of uh conviction, I'm I'm going to pray for him, but I will never hang out with him. I will never associate with him. I'm never going to his house. I'm never He's out of my life. Jared,

24:16 I feel like you feel that way already. I think that's very hurtful. Yeah. No, but but Jared, you know what I mean? Like that's the point is like these people kept these relationships. They kept going with him. They knew who he was. And Jared, it seems like he was protected in Florida. So you were here when you know he got in trouble and all that stuff.

24:31 Yeah, I was here when Pam Bonnie was the attorney general here, right? And he got the sweetheart deal.

24:36 How does that how does that happen, my brother? These are these are the questions that the American people on the internet have been asking.

24:41 By the way, let me tell you this. What what's so impressive, Rob, can you go to the poll you ran? Look at our audience. our audience generally, you know, lean more conservative, right? He he runs a poll and a poll says, "Do you want this hearing to be public or private?" Look what the audience voted. Zoom in. 4200 voted. 91% want it to be public.

25:02 So, they're voting on the side of Hillary Clinton. There's they're voting on the side of, hey, we don't want to have anything kept from us. We want to hear WHAT'S GOING TO BE HERE. I want the audience. The American people have been it's it's Epstein is a is a fasc it's obviously horrific but it's a fascinating bridge of the political divide. Like we don't agree on anything but the American people agree everything should 91% out of Can you can you pull up that one email I just sent you? It's stuff like this that you realize I I I just tech I just DM Yeah, there you go. Watch this. Look at this.

25:38 One of the stuff that's in the Epstein files. New Brazilian just arrived. Sexy and cute. 9 years old.

25:45 Weird. 9 years old. Legitimate. This is from the file Justice Department. 9 years old. Who the hell are you emailing? Who is the other person that got the email? So So the stuff that they email they're idiots, Adam. Is that is that what did they do to

26:01 By the way, if the from is Jeffrey Epstein, they would tell us exactly that from is from somebody else.

26:07 Exactly. That that from that's not from Epste. That from is some somebody else.

26:11 Who's the who's the two to Epste? That's Epste is the GE vacation. That's his vacation.

26:17 Oh, so they'll send it to him. So who who sent? And those are pictures. One, two, three, four, five JPEGs. Those are pictures.

26:28 And look Jeffrey Epstein vacation. This is everybody's vacation is going to the island with 9year-olds. Okay.

26:34 It's gross. I saw a video this morning. Adam, you go because I'm going to I'm going to send a video to you, Rob, here in a minute.

26:41 So, this whole Epstein situation, the number one thing, the signal through all the noise here is people want some accountability. What the hell happened on this island? We know that Jeffrey Epste was a world class scumbag. People want to know who else is hanging with this guy. So, Hillary, Trump, uh, Clinton, let let's get into these names. Number one, Hillary just showed I'm a gangster. I have nothing to hide. Oh, it's kind of like, oh, you want to fight? Oh, you want me to meet you outside? Cool. Let's go. Meet me outside. And now James Comr's like, no, I didn't I didn't really want to fight.

27:15 I just wanted to talk tough. Hillary's basically like, yeah, I'll meet you after school right now. Let's do it in public. Let's do it in public. And he's like, "No, I'm a little scared on that." Kind of like when Candace said, "Anytime, any place. Let's go turning point." And they're like, "Tuesday at 3:00." She goes, "I'm busy." So, that's a little um shady right there on his part. Number two, Trump. Watch what he does, not what he says. I don't think Trump cares about the Clintons. He's the guy that said, "Lock her up. Lock her up. Lock her up." We didn't actually lock her up. Do you think Trump actually cares about Bill Clinton? He brought five women who accused him of sexual misconduct to a debate and Bill Clinton looked like he saw five ghosts. So, he does not care about Bill Clinton's feelings whatsoever. Yes, that's self-preservation, which I think you mentioned. Last point, people want

28:03 accountability. And last, lastly, just cuz your name is in the Epstein file in an email reference to doesn't mean that you did anything wrong. John Stewart said it the other day. He goes, "My name was in the Epstein file. They said we should get someone like John Stewart to host an event or something." He goes, "Excuse me, someone like John Stewart? How about just John Stewart, buddy? So just because your name's in something doesn't mean you did anything. And you remember what happened with Mike Tyson, Pat?

28:34 Remember when he took a p What was the story? He took a picture with a murderer.

28:38 Yeah. Guy comes and takes a picture with a murderer who had just killed eight people or something like that. Next day they come back to him saying, "What's your relationship with this guy? I have no clue. Just took a picture with them." So some of that's going to be happening. But what I'm saying is the the the the part that people want to know is when you cross the line with kids, people change.

28:55 Yep. Everybody's on the same page. Just like when 9/11 happened in New York, nobody cared if you're a Republican or a Democrat.

29:01 Crossing the line with kids makes everybody part of the same party. There's this video I want to show, Rob, if you can pull it up. This happens in America. Okay, watch this clip. Play it. You can start playing it. And you'll see you'll see this person asking people at the airport. Watch this.

29:19 You said that you were on vacation and now you're moving this small child to the airport. I thought you were on vacation. Do you have any comment about children that have gone missing that you've helped to escort across the country?

29:29 We have footage here that a lot of these children don't know the sponsors that they are going to. What's going on? There's kids in the car here.

29:37 And look what happens when the truck leaves. Excuse me. The bags are left. They're panicking leaving. You can you can pause this video. Why am I showing this clip? because you're you're now they're saying if you think for a second he doesn't have ties to the MSAD selling intel and then there was a bunch of stuff with Putin. You said the amount of times that Trump's name is mentioned more than Harry Potter in Harry Potter's eight books but you hear how many times Putin is mentioned how many times you know the names with Russia and MSAD this is happening people want to know what's going on. I don't get people I don't think people care where it's coming from. If it's us, let's find out. If it's MSAD, let's find out. People simply want to get to the bottom of it. I mean, it's so bad right now that Bill Gates's ex-wife, Melinda Gates, gets invited on an interview right after she's learning about the fact from the Epstein files

30:33 that he caught an STD that he was worried about giving her. And Epstein told him allegedly what to take,

30:39 what drugs to give her. What drugs to give her? Play this clip here. Go ahead, Rob. The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection and that he was going to give you the medicine without you knowing. His representative has said all of this is false. It is not on you to have to respond to the details of that alleged behavior. But I I wonder what your dominant emotion is when you read these news articles with these details.

31:15 sad, just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness, right? Um, and again, I'm able to take my own sadness and look at those young girls and say, "My god, how did they h

31:34 how did that happen to those girls?" Right? And so for me, it's just sadness. sadness for, you know, I I've left I had to I left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. I had to leave the I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. So, it's just sad. That's the truth.

31:52 Did Bill respond rap? Bill Gates does respond. Can we Can we play the Does he really?

31:56 Yeah. And you know what? He's trying to go. I'll let I'll let him play again. I I'll give my two.

32:00 You study human nature. Yeah. Tell me. Yeah. Does that When you look at her like that I feel sorry for what Bill has to say.

32:07 Well, I tell you what I think. I think a couple things. I mean, look, it's it's not even the believable part. It's it's I think the number one emotion is embarrassed

32:17 is embarrassed because look, guys, I mean, it's well documented when these two got married, whatever, they were together for 27 years. I think in the prenup or some kind of agreement that they had that she agreed for him to go visit an ex one week a year.

32:32 I don't know if you guys something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you can document that in a 1997 time exiting profile. It was reported that Bill and Melinda Gates early in their relationship that he could spend an annual long weekend with his former girlfriend and Windimblat. And this is not this is not Daily Mail. This is not this is Time magazine profile in 97. So anybody that agrees to that pre getting married, you pretty much agree that there's something weird about this relationship you're getting into. Can you imagine if I go to my wife and I say, "Babe, listen. Once a year I'm hanging out with my ex."

33:06 Oh, okay. If you agree to that, we can get married. Yeah. By the way, my my when I was getting married, my imagination clearly wasn't big enough. I mean,

33:15 you got to think big. I I mean, good lord. Yeah. You were worried about like a guy. So, no forward thinking.

33:23 But where I'm going to is I actually think Melinda, maybe not the Epstein stuff. Melinda kind of knew this guy's the richest man in the world I'm about to marry. I probably have to agree to certain things that maybe I wouldn't get if I married Mr. Johnson who's a second grade teacher making $47,200 a year.

33:44 This guy makes a second. It's a very different situation you got. So I think she kind of knew who she was getting into. Maybe not the Epstein guy. Here's Bill Gates responding. Go ahead, Rob. knew a lot of very rich people and he was saying he could get them uh to give money to global health. You know, in retrospect that was a a dead end and I was foolish to spend time with him. I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him.

34:08 You've no doubt seen the allegations including some of them from the last 24 to 48 hours. Are they true?

34:15 No. The apparently Jeffrey wrote an email to himself. Uh that email was never sent. the email is uh you know false. Uh so I don't know what his thinking was there. It just reminds me you know every minute I spent with him I I regret and I you know apologize that I did that.

34:34 The problem is some of the things that he has sent and some of the information about other people that has come up in those files has been true. Why would he do this and say this about you? Do you think

34:45 you know it's factually true that I was only at dinners you know I never went to the island. I never met any women. And so, you know, the more that comes out, the more clear it'll be uh that although the time was a mistake, it had nothing to do with that kind of behavior.

35:01 Do you believe it? Absolutely not. Like, and and and again, everything is factbased in this world, but whatever happened to your gut and your intuition. Nothing about what he's saying, I believe, with the amount of stuff that that he is, by the way, this is just one. These are two emails that I read that he drafted by himself that he was about to send to to Bill uh to Bill Gates. What? To me, that's almost like a diary. You're like, why why would he make up something like that if he he just didn't send it? It was still on his computer. He went into great detail about it. And just really really really quick, Pat, if you don't mind, Adam, when you said earlier about Hillary Clinton that you're saying that she's gangster and she's like, "Hey, we don't have anything to hide." I don't think it's that. I think it's, hey, we're all guilty and we're all going to go down with the ship if you guys open your

35:44 mouth. If I'm going that I'm pulling everybody everybody won't be but the one thing the one thing J I want to know your opinion

35:49 yeah but she didn't go to the island I think that's absolutely but but the main thing I think

35:54 Bill Bill Clinton had Jeffrey Epste come to the White House how many times Rob 11 17 times he came to the White House why is a known pedophile coming to the freaking White House to visit with him and then Mark Middleton the guy that hooked up the whole thing hangs himself shoots himself in the chest suicide and then they don't find the gun and it's ruled a suicide That's a whole that's a whole different situation. But the fact that Hillary knows if he goes down, everybody's going down and that's that's how it is.

36:22 What do you think, Jared? Well, I think the reason Hillary's acting like this cuz again, she has nothing to do with any of this. No one has ever accused Hillary uh with anything with Jeffrey Epste. The Republicans threw her in to try to, you know, make it sexier. And so she's like, well, if you're going to include me, then I'm then I'm then I'm coming. Let's go. So I

36:38 So she's going to draw on other things. Story's not even related to I think I think she'll come and embarrass him. Look, again, they held Hillary for 11 hours in a hearing one time. Remember that? Without a without a bathroom break, right? Like Hillary can handle herself.

36:53 Benghazi. What difference does it make? Hillary Hillary can handle herself. So, I I think that's what she's doing here. Watching the Melinda Gates thing, and I've seen it now a couple of times.

37:02 I mean, when the question comes in, she takes a gulp of air. It looks like she threw up and swallowed it.

37:09 Okay. whether that particular email is true or not. She looks into the camera and basically tells us stuff like that is true that she is a aware of.

37:20 It doesn't have to be that particular email. Maybe it is or isn't true that that email, but stuff on that level

37:28 she knows in her mind. Can you do me a favor, Rob? Do run a poll and ask this question. Who do you trust more, Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton? I'm actually curious to know what the audience going to say. Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton because in in ties to Trump and I'll come to you. This is back in 2015 at CPAC. Trump's being asked about Bill Clinton. I don't know if you remember this clip or not. He went hard on Bill Clinton with Epstein. If you want to play this clip, Rob, go for it.

37:53 Bill Clinton, nice guy. Uh got a lot of problems coming up in my opinion with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of problems.

38:03 Epstein in your remarks about in the Q&A. I think he's got a problem. My problem will be I I don't know. But that island was uh really a cesspool. There's no question about that.

38:12 Impostor right there. By the way, if you look at the president, he looks much better than he did here. So, he's lost weight. Look at those cheeks.

38:17 Good for him, right? Look at that. He was only he did in 2015. Adam, go ahead. Well, number one, we have to state the clear fact. Trump was talking about the cesspool island in 2015

38:29 before he was project manager. Whoa. So, if you need a project manager, there you go.

38:34 But let's give Trump a little credit. He was calling out Epstein before he even was president, before he was even running for president, when he was just initiating his campaign right after he came down the escalator. So everything, everybody's accusing Trump of doing something wrong. I don't think so. Number two, there's a big difference between someone like President Bill Clinton and Bill Gates. Bill Gates first. What the hell does Bill Gates need from Epstein? He doesn't need money.

39:02 He doesn't need access. He doesn't need power. You're the richest man in the world or one of the richest men in the world. What are you going to Epste for? Tax advice. So, in my opinion, you're going to Epstein Island cuz you want to get away.

39:15 Well, he says he never went to Epstein Island. He said he never went. Okay. But you're you're associating with Epstein for what? For access to maybe some fun. Okay. I don't know if you did or didn't go.

39:26 Clinton is a little bit different. Do you need money? Do you need power? Do you need fundraising? What are you your next moves after you're leaving the White House?

39:36 You're saying Bill needs Epstein more than Gates needs? There's more things that someone like Bill Clinton would need from Epstein.

39:43 So what's your point? Someone like Bill Gates. What's your point? That not all two people are the same. Why are you hanging out with this person? It's like why are you going to Diddy's house?

39:50 One offers Girls and Fun, the other offers. Exactly. Why you going to Diddy's house? You want to get some music? You want to become a new producer for him? Or do you want to go to the baby oil party? There's a big difference. What do you Listen, I think there's a lot in common with a lot of these people. And look, this is part of the con some of the conspiracy that may turn out to be true is that he was curating people of power and it became, you know, it it it became leverage over these people. I mean, Elon is in the files, right? Like if you look at who these people are, right? The rich and the powerful. How was Epstein able to curate all of those people, right? I mean, these are not insignificant folks,

40:26 right? And it goes beyond even the big names. Then there's another second level of gigantic people, right? Uh uh uh very successful, very wealthy people around the world. And so, you know, the the people think that these were bribery things that were going on. You get a little leverage on these folks, right? And so, you know, that's part of what people want to want to find out on Trump. I will tell you this, Trump is brilliant at a lot of things. One of the things he's brilliant of is he takes something that he he knows he's got an issue and he puts it on other people. He takes his weakness, he takes his vulnerability, and he puts it on other people. I think Trump was getting ahead of the Epstein thing, knowing, hey, I'm all over that thing, too. 10 years.

41:08 I think the other side is much better at it than that. I I think I think in that side for him to do that, you know, how many times CNN has to apologize and say, "It's right. They did kick him off. He did kick off he kick out Epstein. Abby had to do it." Then I think a week ago, a guy on CNN came out and said a proven human trafficker, whatever, and he said it twice. He had Scott Jennings called him out. He had to come out and apologize. He was just on Pierce Morgan yesterday. Found 50 different ways to apologize because he knows if the president wanted to assume he can. If you're if you're not afraid, if you're not afraid of what you've done, you'll sue. Yeah.

41:49 And then you have to go through discovery. So if the if the guy is playing that much, I'm not telling he hasn't done it in his career. I think that's actually playbook from the other side that happens a lot. He just came out. Can you imagine like what are you doing bringing the girls out during the debate with Hillary Clinton? You if you do that, you have to know the next day they could bring 50 girls on you. Who was Eugene Carroll? This morning I was watching Eene Carroll's interview with Anderson Cooper and he's like, you know, so what is rape to you? Rape is not physical. It's it's a fantasy and it's like we're going to go to a break. I you're Anderson, you're fascinating.

42:27 You're fascinating. Right? All these dumb stories that they try to put on him. So I think that game I believe Hillary is much better at it than Trump. And look at this here. Look at the score right here. People trust Bill Clinton. They do not trust Hillary Clinton.

42:41 3,500 people. Yeah. They do not trust regarding Epste or overall. Well, that's what they're saying. The a topic we're talking about. By the way, just to say one thing here to everybody that's watching this, I've been in the insurance business for 20ome years, okay? Love the industry, life changing. If you're watching this and you want to ensure yourself, do yourself a favor and go buy the shirt allegedly

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43:45 I'm curious. In a in a court of law, in a court of law, Jared, you would know this. If you're wearing that shirt and you're talking just out of your butt and you're saying crazy stuff and Cory, can you like I didn't say it out loud, but the shirt is saying it.

43:57 Some people are saying some people are saying a followup question cuz I feel like you're a good person to answer this.

44:03 Let's be completely logical and rational right now. Everyone wants to go, "Oh, he's abstaining pedophile."

44:08 Forget about that. Forget about the pedophilia. Forget about the girls. Let's just go completely logical and pragmatic. What do all these rich, famous, powerful people want or need from Epste? Forget about the girls. Forget about the partying. Let's go down the rabbit hole. Congressman, I'd love to get your What do they need from this guy? Why is everyone trying to get involved with him? Cuz just as much as he's approaching them, hey, can I come? Can I? What's going on? So, what do you think is actually happening going on?

44:31 I'll let you answer. I mean, I I think that's nobody knows, right? Because like if we say, well, we all know what they wanted. That means they're all guilty.

44:40 That means they're all guilty, right? Which I don't think we can say that, right? I don't think that's fair to say like they're all guilty. But nobody knows. Now look, in the realm of politics and business, people are always raising money. You got access to funds. You got access to this guy. It becomes a networking thing. But by the way, maybe someone should tell us. Maybe one of these people who are in there, right, who says, you know, I never went to the island. I was interested in girls. Then why were you talking to him? Was he connecting you to somebody else? Was it a business deal? I mean, Elon's in there. That looks like that may have been, you know, some sort of dollars business deal. Yeah.

45:16 Tell us, Elon, why why were you talking to Epstein? What was that about? Right. If it wasn't about the girls,

45:21 you made a great point. Yeah. I think I think it's Look, Trump's interview with Lex Freiedman when he says, "How come more friends don't run for office?" Well, most people don't know how to more billionaires don't run for office. He says you can make all the money. He says there's a lot of billionaires that people don't know around the world. There's a lot of billionaires that they walk past you and you just thought they were a regular person. They have $2.8 billion in the bank. No one knows. This is what Vinnie deals with every day. I hate it. It's like tough to be

45:47 Vinnie. There are a lot of billionaires that are not cool. They just have money. Truly,

45:52 is he still talking about you, right? They're they're not they're not famous. They want fame. Now, flip it. There are a lot of famous broke people out there that want money. It's like, listen, man, I got 6.8 billion followers, but dude, I got 28 grand on a bank. I'm broke. Everything I make, I spend. I have to live this lavish lifestyle with the Aventador and the PC and the Hublau and the RM and all this stuff to show. But dude, I'm broke, so what can you help me? Right?

46:16 And then and then you have guys that uh uh stuff that they do in their private lives outside of their marriage that you know, they don't want somebody else to know. You want someone to allow you to have that access. That's some of these guys with uh who's a billionaire guy that paid him $172 million and Leon Black allegedly again. So that is more what do I do with this situation? Right. to everybody it's different. But what does work and it's a proven business model since day one.

46:48 Blackmail is a incredible incredible business model which by the way he knows who do you think are Epstein's number one customers?

46:59 In my opinion Epstein's number one customers are are governments or intel agencies all of those guys. And by the way, the a part of it like where I'm at like and and I want to move to the next story which is Kier Starmer and then we can go into exiting this Epstein stuff because there's a lot of stuff going on there. This is what I tell you Vinnie,

47:19 you know, uh uh uh with kids, say you got four kids and all of them screwed up, but they'll tell each other, "Listen, we're not going to tell dad." Okay? We're not going to tell who did that.

47:34 In my old office, Mario will remember this. A guy named Leo will remember this. Robert Tacio will remember this. One day I'm in my office. I come out and a massive fight breaks out in the office. Something happens. And everybody I come outside, they see I'm outside. I'm looking at them. So what happened? Nothing. I said, "What was that sound?" "Nothing." "What sound?" So what do you mean what sound? What was that sound? We don't know what you're talking about, Vinnie. They're looking at me as if like

48:04 you're dumb. Nothing happened. Then one time there's an event in '07 in Orlando. We go to Orlando. That night these guys party till 5:00 in the morning. The next day the meeting starts at 8:00 a.m. They all come in and Vinnie, they're looking at each other as if like I'm looking at him. Why is this guy yawning 10 minutes into the meeting? He can't stay up. And when Mario would have if you started the meeting talking about finance and economy and market, Mario's knocked out within within 30 seconds.

48:32 He just wants to talk about human nature. And I said, "Guys, what'd you guys do last night?" No, nothing. We were We went to sleep early. We We had a meeting. We went to sleep early. They never wanted to leak anything. Till today, I still don't fully know exactly what happened. All I've heard is secondhand information.

48:49 But if one of them leaks, then it's like, "Well, you brought the beer. Well, you brought this. Well, you brought that. Well, you told us. You brought the driver. You took us to the club. So, so the point is the point is the moment

49:02 one goes, it's all done. Everyone's going to go and and it, you know, you ever watch domino when the first one goes and then boom,

49:10 60 next dominoes fall and you see those big ones that happen. If one fully comes out openly, I'm guilty. But let me tell you what I'm about to do.

49:20 Yeah. Hey, boom. You know, boom, boom. Like almost the scent of a woman. What what is the the three boys name out there? You two on the crowd. Even Tupac coming out there calling everybody out. Then he got killed right right off the bat. So I think that hasn't happened yet.

49:36 We talking about hit him up. We talking about the song hit him up. I love that word.

49:40 I think that's where we are. I think if one guy comes out, the floodgates going to work.

49:45 I think you're a million% right. Let me give you a little maybe push back. If nobody's flipped yet, why would they flip? It's almost like we've been holding out for 10 years, 20 years.

49:56 If they're as good as my guys, if they're as good as my guys, they're never going to tell me what happened in Orlando, but I don't know.

50:01 Who got the fears? I don't know if they're You know who you are. They're watching from all over the country.

50:07 Let's go to the next story here. Kier Starmer. Okay. UK Starmer admits he knew of relationship between Epstein and ex Ambassador Mandlesson. Rob, can you show the picture of this guy Mandlesson that came out that everybody's like

50:23 flattering? That is a I mean, listen, folks, there's a lot of pictures that can come out. And look, we all have embarrassing pictures. All of us do, right?

50:31 But this one's pretty bad. All right. This is not doing it justice, this lighting.

50:36 Yeah, the lighting on this. But he is in a he's wearing a shirt and just with his underwear. And that's Mandlesson allegedly. And Kirst knows that he knew of this relationship. By the way, right after this came out, did he resign? I thought he resigned. He stepped down or something right?

50:51 Yeah, he was removed. He was removed. Okay, Rob, is this it with him talking about it? Go for it.

50:56 Can the prime minister tell us, did the official security vetting he received mention Mandlesson's ongoing relationship with the pedophile Jeffrey Epste?

51:07 So clear, Prime Minister. Yes, it did. A as a as a result various questions were put to him. I intend to disclose to this house all of the the national security prejudice to international relations on one side. I want to make sure that I want to make sure this house sees the full documentation so it will see for itself the extent to which the extent to which time and time again Mandlesson completely misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Epstein and lied throughout the process including in response to the due diligence.

51:52 Mr. Speaker, I think it is shocking what the prime minister has just said. How can he stand up there saying that he knew but he just asked Peter Mandolson if the security vetting was true or false? This is a man who had been sacked from cabinet twice already for unethical behavior. That is absolutely shocking and that is why later today my party will call on the government to release all documents relating to Mandles's appointment, not just the ones. I can listen to this accent.

52:23 I love you. By the way, have you ever gone? I went to So this is called It used to be called question hour with the prime minister. Now it's called question time because it doesn't I've gone to this. They do it with such poise. Like I remember the questioning and she's like, you know, just because you're the head of child services doesn't mean you should act like a child, you know. And it's it's just so well done. Like like listen how they're talking about Epstein. It's like

52:49 You think he's going to step down? Well, I I mean, if you're watching that, I think that went extraordinarily well for him. I mean I mean I don't whether he steps down or not. I mean this looks like they're going to continue to pull that thread.

53:00 I just love and you nailed it that like think about it when we say pedophile it's like an indictment there. They're like pedophile. It almost sounds like pedalite like it's like a drink. But I think and you you made a great point about the like these are we're talking about Kier Starmer and one of the things that you said about the um the blackmail he barack was on a call calling him asking him think about this and the first thing that Jeffrey Epson said is who owes you who owes you their life who owes you favors he was almost like a consultant because he probably recorded everybody in those rooms where he had cameras and that was such a that was it.

53:36 blackmail and why everybody went there thinking, Adam, I'm a president. I'm a prime minister. I can go to this island. Nobody's ever going to know. They're not recording it. That these emails are never going to

53:45 step down. Will he step down? I think so. I think with this, he's going to have to besides the the the invasion that he let happen uh in in in England. This is this is it for him. I think this is it.

53:56 What I think most people in the US don't realize um is is what the position here and what it meant. Um, so Peter Mendelson was known as a fixer and a spin doctor for Tony Blair. And under Tony Blair, he was known as a prince of darkness. That's

54:13 because they really thought that he had, you know, that he was the wrong guy to piss off. He was the wrong thing to do. And he petitioned hard for the third most powerful position in British government. You know what that is? Ambassador to the United States. that they say is the third most powerful position. Never mind the monarchy, they don't do anything. Somebody dies, they bring a wreath. And Tony Blair, you have your prime minister and the laws of Britain and all that goes with it. But ambassador United States is huge. What also was in the Epstein files was what happened.

54:49 Mendelson told Epstein about the $500 billion Eurozone bond bailout. and Epstein supposedly allegedly traded on that in his accounts with all the foundation accounts. So you've got Starmer's guy was leaking to Epstein. This is global bond markets that are it's half a trillion dollars. And so you see that happening and then you see the rest of the pictures and everything. And this was just a bad guy. And I happen to agree uh with the woman that was challenging Starmer um in that all you did was ask Okay, you're you're not really into this, are you? Wouldn't you do Pat? If we hire a director of marketing, we do a background check. We call references, right?

55:45 You're telling me all you did? Okay, give me your word. Give me your word. The Epstein rumor is not there. So Starmer either did incomplete research or was lied to upfront, found out later, but then did nothing. And now when the box is open and everybody can look inside, Starmer's coming out. But you have to remember this is a big deal. He was ambassador to the United States. If you say he worked directly with Blair on that call with Epstein, okay, when he was talking to Ehood Barack, Tony Blair's name came up and he said XYZ company pays him 2 million a year. What was the company that was it a telecommunication company that paid him 2 million a year? Rob, do you remember that that they talked about? He says XYZ pays Tony Blair 2 or three million a year for a board seed.

56:35 So I I don't know how deep if this guy knows anything about Blair's connection with Epstein if he worked that closely with them. I mean this can go even deeper now Tom than just you know with Kier Starmer stepping down. It can go back to Tony Blair and Tony Blair wasn't he just assigned on the project on rebuilding of Gaza or something? Wasn't he given a job that had to do with Gaza? on the u the board of peace the board of peace with Kushner I believe

57:03 and uh with if I'm not mistaken Adam where are you at with this so with this situation with Kier Starmer uh so let's get one thing clear these these lords in British politics uh mean nothing lord you you could do the most scandalous ridiculous sensationalist things ever people who are named lords very rarely lose their title so we saw Prince Andrew what happened with him. He was a prince. Lord, what is he called? Lord Mandlesen.

57:33 Lord Farqua. There you go. Uh Jeffrey Archer was Lord Jeffrey Archer. This guy went to jail for perjury. Famously did not lose his lordship. So who she is? Are you familiar with who she is? She's basically the highest ranking I want to say member of the Conservative Party. So it' be the equivalent of like a black female conservative now running the the Republican party. So imagine if Candace Owens pre going off the RTOR scale was the face of the new Republican establishment. So this is if you know anything about the Tories and conservatives in the UK, this is the party of Church Hill, they've done nothing but destroy UK that the that the the the longest serving power players in UK history, the British people are like, "We are so done with you. We're going to elect this absolute socialist weirdo."

58:26 Kier Starmer and look where they are now with this. So she's coming in and actually being like sensible and basically saying listen we're not standing for this. She's almost like reinventing the Conservative party in the UK and God knows they need it.

58:41 By the way, that was like the easiest question and answer. I don't even think she thought it was going to be so easy. Please tell me this wasn't, you know, you didn't know this. And he goes, I knew like she was like, oh

58:53 oh well that was easy. We didn't expected that to be so bad. But why do you think he did that though? Because if they said by the end of the day today, we're going to be requesting for all communication. She was going to find out that there's communication.

59:04 But who who's been fired? I mean, he's got to look, it's going to be him if he doesn't fire people who handled this for him, right? I mean, so if he doesn't fire the team that handled this, it's going to be him.

59:16 He's also the opposite of Trump. He's not built for these moments, the bright lights, and he's like, "Ah, I confess." where Trump would be like, "You know me, I would never do something like that. It was this guy over here. What a loser. He's just not built for the bright lights." And he just basically admitted to hiring this guy.

59:32 Well, Trump would also Trump would also go on the offense and would have looked at her and said, "I don't like your smile."

59:37 Terrible question. But in politics, you have to do this. So now they're talking about what did what does Kry say the odds are that he's going to step down at this point

59:45 before September 1st? 60%. So basically, flip a coin if not more. This guy's out over this scandal.

59:53 Yes. He didn't do anything wrong. He wasn't on the island. He knew. But he knew.

59:58 He knew. So dominoes are going to fall. What? What happened to Penn State uh uh coach

1:00:03 Joe Pa? Yeah. What happened to him? Sanduski cuz he knew about when Senzowski was doing.

1:00:08 Yeah, he knew. He He knew. But he was on his way out anyway. He was like 9 years old.

1:00:12 But I mean, this guy's in his first term. I get that. I get that. By the way, Pat, this was yesterday. And look what happens at 4:40m

1:00:20 when he answers the question. Bingo when he answers the question. See that green line?

1:00:24 Y. Y. So where was it prior to yesterday, Tom? Low zero. Irele relevant. It wasn't even a topic of discussion.

1:00:32 Wow. That he's going to be stepping down. So just how quickly markets can change.

1:00:36 Yeah. Well, let's talk about markets. You're talking about markets. Let me explain what happened yesterday. Bitcoin. Rob, where's Bitcoin at right now?

1:00:42 Bitcoin crashes to around 60,000 as historic freef fall worsens. 68,000. It's back up a little bit. Prices down over 50% over four months. Uh uh this week equities yesterday equities nearly $600 billion lost in equities because of AI. Uh I think crypto this week lost 56 $600 billion $2 trillion since the high in October. Tom, what's going on over here?

1:01:08 So what has happened is remember crypto, you know, crypto? Well, guess what? It's going to be a hedge against inflation. It's going to be an alternative to fiat. It's going to go this way when the markets go that way. And now here we have the big test. We've got layoffs. We've got gold. We got the US dollar weakening. We've got a K-shaped economy where the consumer is increasingly under stress. Credit card uh debt at the highest of all time, one almost 1.3 trillion right now. Whereas Wall Street with PE, especially in tech, has been doing okay. And so we're all waiting for the shoe to drop. the shoe to drop is the the market and some economic things and some layoffs and everything and all of a sudden Bitcoin goes with it.

1:01:51 Bitcoin was supposed to be different and so what right now we're trying to figure out Pat remember what everybody said just don't worry about it. Get a little bit of Bitcoin. It's an inflation hedge. It's an inflation hedge. That was one of the core selling points. Well, now when things go sideways, wait a minute, this is two years of increases have gone down. I this morning it said if I'm correct October 2024 it was 66. It's gone on a run. So it's returned and it's given back two years of gains.

1:02:20 Go to fiveyear max. Go to fiveyear if you could. Okay. And then go to max. Yeah. Go. Yeah. There you go. You see where it is there? Now go back over 2024. That's right. All of that. A little more. A little more. Octo October 2024. Up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up 2024.

1:02:41 Oh, sorry. There you go. There we are. Right there. So that everything since October 24 is gone. And so all this it's like we're finding out will the real Bitcoin please stand up? Are you an inflation hedge that's going to be stable over time? Are you alternative to fiat? Are you just another speculation stock that is going to react to the market, react to gold, react to inflation? And right now it looks like you're just it's it's reacting to that. Now there's a lot of Bitcoin people are gonna say this is temporary Tom. No, you don't know what you're talking about. But rather than being stable and do the things that they said it's going to do that all the proponents were together and saying, you know, it's it's difficult. It's like okay, the people that put their trust in it.

1:03:28 Well, let me ask you this. In the last week, have you bought any crypto? No, you haven't bought any.

1:03:37 Okay. So, you haven't taken advantage of the discount that's going on right now?

1:03:41 Before the sun sets today, I'm going to Okay, got it. So, I just bought a bunch of XRP and Bitcoin yesterday.

1:03:47 Mhm. And I bought a and I bought a bunch when it dropped to whatever the number was in the 80s, you know, high 70s, 80s. And to me, the the the part about dollar cost averaging is it's so easy to teach, but it's so hard to execute.

1:04:04 Yeah. Your emotions betray you. It's so hard to execute. We can get in front of a board and teach our 13-year-old son, "Son, let me tell you how dollar cost averaging works. If you invest $100 and the stock is $10, you get 10 shares. It goes to 15, you get six shares. But if it drops to five and you're scared and you buy it, you get 20 shares." and the average between the three becomes $13. And so now you did a but then when it happens to you're like, "Oh, I don't know if I'm on a dollar cost average." Boom. You missed it. It went back to 92.

1:04:35 You could have bought it at 62. You could have bought it at 65. So here's here's a part about

1:04:39 where they say the scared man becomes a day trader. Yes, it does. And by the way, what what what what I'm you know, I say this, you know, the long-term thinkers when short-term thinkers get destroyed, long-term thinkers are are able to go through the emotional difficulties of investments. Something goes up, something goes down, long-term uh uh everything ends up working out for the long-term thinker. But this is really scaring the crap of a lot of people. This is scaring the crap out of a lot of people. Jared, where are you with this?

1:05:11 Well, I mean, look, I think you know, the the American people on whole, right, are not invested in Bitcoin and in crypto. To your point, this was supposed to be detached from everything else. It was supposed to be the hedge. That's what we constantly heard. But there's a lot of establishment investment now in here. There's a there's a lot of regular big Wall Street that came into there. I still don't understand the Michael Sailor thing. I mean, I follow, you know, micro strategies.

1:05:35 7800,000 now. Okay. a and and and I don't understand, you know, h how that whole thing works. Um but so far, I mean, it it you know, he his stock, I think, is higher than Bitcoin

1:05:49 and he owns Bitcoin. So, I don't understand how how the company could, you know, the value the the company is doing better than than Bitcoin is doing when the thing you own uh is is being devalued. And so, uh, you talked to a lot of people who talk about these these downward trends that happen in Bitcoin that there's a cycle that happens. You they talk about these cycles and so far it's following the cycle, but it did go lower than the 60,000 threshold. They said if it hits 60,000, you know, that should be the end of the cycle. Now, it's it's up again.

1:06:23 So, let's see. Let's see now if it could hit. There's a whole different school of thought that they say it could hit as low as six uh 26,000 to match the drops it's had over the years. Uh and and then from 26 it's going to go to 250 500. It's kind of what they're talking about.

1:06:38 By the way, if it goes the margin calls that are going to happen 26,000. Oh my lord.

1:06:43 You're right. Yeah, that's by the way. Have you ever had a margin call? I don't have enough money to do that. Yeah, I had a margin call, but I was 25 years old when I got a margin call when I had no money. And I put I don't know what it was, $5,000, whatever, to buy some Nike stocks. And then I said, you know, E Trade came out and they said, you know, you can use this to get XYZ and $15,000. And I'm like, no way.

1:07:05 Really, Vinnie? I did it. Let me tell you, when it dropped, I don't know, it was a handful of stocks I own.

1:07:15 They're calling you. your say, "Hey, you have" and I'm like, "How the hell am I going to pay this?

1:07:20 You act like you have 15,000, but you only have 5,000." Wow. So, it's allowing you to use credit, which is wonderful.

1:07:26 Yeah. Cuz you're doubling and tripling without your money. It's like you're using credit card money, margin call, but when you get You ever seen the movie Margin Call?

1:07:35 Yeah, of course. With the Have you Have you seen the movie? Oh, yeah. With the Kevin Spy in it at the very end. My dog died.

1:07:41 What a movie. Great movie. By the way, that anxiety in that movie, that's how it feels. Oh man.

1:07:46 And and this he's right. If it's 26,000, it's going to be some interesting. You're already seeing some I mean there's already margin calling happening and and and so what's happening is other people are having to liquidate other assets, right, to so that they have capital to pay the margin. So if this does continue to tank, it's going to bring down other stocks with it as people liquidate out of those.

1:08:07 Well, if you actually are a long-term investor, this is a good day for you because you can go buy some stuff. I've learned over the years that what what goes up must come down. So, you know who knows what's going on in the market tomorrow? Absolutely nobody. If Michael Sailor doesn't know what's going on with Bitcoin, believe me, your Uber driver has no clue. The guy that's like, "Bro, I just invested in."

1:08:29 There's somebody that knows what's going on in the market, right? Nancy Pelosi.

1:08:34 She sold PayPal. She sold Wait a minute. Did you not see the story? What' she do now?

1:08:38 Did you see the story? She Nancy Pelosi sold PayPal way before PayPal was going down. She knew something. She know that.

1:08:47 Can you tell? Am I reading the story incorrectly? No. Why do I feel like I read the story?

1:08:52 Two weeks. Two weeks. Zoom in a little bit, Rob. My eyes. Yes. Based on financial disclosure and general Nancy Pelosi reported a sale of PayPal holdings took place December 30. Pelosi sold 5,000 shares of PayPal. The transaction valued $250 to $500,000. The sale occurred just before a sharp decline of 27% by selling in late December the transaction allowed the policy's household to avoid a potential loss of over $90,000.

1:09:20 She has the eightball. Well, that's what I'm saying. So, so unless if your name is not Nancy Pelosi and you don't have access to autopilot where autopilot allows you to match the exact investments that Nancy Pelosi and I don't know if you ever autopilot I've seen it on you follow it. Yeah.

1:09:37 And by the way a millionaire now. Autopilot he made money autopilot autopilot runs ads on Tom. Okay. I don't know if you've seen this or not. They did. Yeah.

1:09:47 Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So, Adam, to correct you, please give Okay. So, other than God and Nancy Pelosi, nobody knows what's going to happen in the market.

1:09:54 Here's what I tell people, Pat. I think we're on the same periods with long-term thinking.

1:09:58 If you want safe and security, think of it like a theme park perk. You want to be safe, go on the merry ground, buddy. You want investing, you want risk and reward, go on the roller coaster. Now, the only time you're going to die if you go on the roller coaster, you try to jump off the ride in the middle of the ride. So, I bought Bitcoin, I think, at 20 many years ago. People are telling me, "Oh, dude, it's going to go to 100. Then I bought it at 40 again." I'm just looking at it on sale right now. I asked, "Oh, you know, Adrian, all my friends are in the bit Bitcoin." Six months ago, I go, "You see this alltime high?" I go, "What's the lowest we're ever going to see again?" 80,000, bro. I sw I go 80,000. Maybe 78. I text him today, "Buddy, we're at 60." You don't know nothing. Like I I I make you know how you like we bust our each other's balls. Yo, you're an idiot. All my Bitcoin friends, you don't know

1:10:48 anything. Oh, it's the Bitcoin having you understand there's only 21 million. Dude, you don't know anything. Nobody knows anything. If you're a long-term thinker, long-term investor or a hodler, what are they called?

1:11:00 Uh hold on for dear life versus versus a long-term holder that this is a great thing for you. Dollar cost average and buy if you're scared, if you're these people like the XRP. How many people did you talk to were like, "Yeah, I don't own any crypto. I don't own any assets, but I'm an XRP guy." Do you even know what they do? Do you have that video of what our friend uh Max did, Pat? Tell me if you saw this video yet regarding XRP and all the people who are Ripple people. I don't know if uh here you go, Rob.

1:11:31 What are you talking about, Adam? I really wish Rob had this pulled up. I sent it to him about 10 minutes ago, but

1:11:36 Rob, it's in a text, but thanks, buddy. Uh, you thumbmed it up and everything. Don't let him talk to you like that. Seriously, I'm telling you right now, don't sum it up, Rob. You know what? So, here's Can I tee this up?

1:11:47 Here are uh XRP holders and Ripple holders right now. MY MONEY, MOTHER. WHERE'S my money? Yeah, I saw

1:12:03 because all these people invested in XRP cuz they thought that they were going to get rich and you what what's the famous saying? Buy the rumors, sell the news. When your Uber driver is giving you advice on XRP, get out.

1:12:15 You keep bringing up the Uber driver. I think a lot of Ubers. Well, do you talk to them about finance?

1:12:19 No, they barely speak English. But that's my point. They barely speak English and they're recommending Ripple. But but by the way, if you but if you look at Bitcoin, right, talking about the long-term investor, okay, if you didn't take any money off the table, you're back where you started. If you got in in the last year,

1:12:35 right? So, you know, when when Biden when Trump got elected, that's when the huge runup happened. It happened it started happening in 24, not in 25. He gets elected, the huge runup happens. So I if you if you owned it at 60,000 65,000 if you bought it right before the election and you didn't take any money off the table you're right back where you started. So you know this idea that oh I'm in it for the long haul. Well it it if it's a roller coaster then you got to take money out before the drop happens if that's going to be a consistent thing with it.

1:13:06 Yeah. And it seems to be there is a pattern with it. It it doesn't react like everybody thought it was going to react to the way that gold reacts. They don't react the same way. And this year was a confusing thing because gold went up. What is the price of gold right now Rob? If we look it up,

1:13:21 if you Do we need to text it to you, Rob? Yeah. Pull up 4983. By the way, set that at 9:00.

1:13:28 Rob, can you do me a favor, Rob? Pull up your MC QR code. Do you have it or No,

1:13:32 I do not. Okay, guys. Pull pull up your MCTO. Pull up your MC so people see your handle. Folks, if you don't appreciate

1:13:39 Yeah. Rob G getting bullied by Adam the way that he is. Can you go send him a man right now? Rob, put the link below in the chat.

1:13:49 That's the photo. By the way, that's a good photo of you. By the way, if we remove the name and said that photo was in a file that we looked, it's called just saying it's called fits the profile.

1:13:59 Like Rob, like if I was literally looking for a babysitter and I was going through, I'm fine.

1:14:05 Don't let him do this to you. I would send that photo. Listen, nobody's immune from the the Let's talk about Iran. Let's talk about Iran. Okay,

1:14:12 Rob. Trump says Iran's Ayatollah should be very worried. Okay, let's see page 25. Rob, I do think you have a clip on this one and I think there's a tweet as well from the White House yesterday. President Trump warned that Iran Supreme Leader Ayat Kame should be very worried during an interview with on Friday on Wednesday amid rising tensions between Washington and Thran. Here's a president. The Supreme Leader in Iran be worried right now.

1:14:42 I would say he should be very worried. Yeah, he should be. As you know, they're negotiating with us.

1:14:47 I know they are. But the protesters have said, you know, where are the Americans? You promised them we we would have their back. Do we still have their back?

1:14:53 We've had their back. And uh look, that country is a mess right now because of us. We went in, we wiped out their nuclear.

1:15:00 So if I didn't take out, you know, we had peace in the Middle East. If I didn't take out their nuclear, think of it. If we didn't take out that nuclear, we wouldn't have peace in the Middle East because the Arab countries could have never done that. They were very, very afraid of Iran. They're not afraid of Iran anymore. We wiped out those beautiful B2 bombers. Ones right over there.

1:15:21 Those beautiful little models. Those beautiful B2 bombers went in and they hit their target, every single bomb, and obliterated it. And

1:15:30 because of that, they were going to have a nuclear weapon within one month. Within one month, they were going to have a nuclear weapon.

1:15:37 That was a big threat that they're not going to have it anymore. But if weated obliterated, what's the deal about? I mean, if there's no more, are they are they trying to restart the nuclear program?

1:15:46 I heard that they are. And if they do, and I let them know, if they do, we're going to send them right back and do their job again. So your understanding is they tried to restart it and that's why you're threatening force.

1:15:55 They tried to go back to the site. They weren't even able to get near it. There was total obliteration. But they were thinking about starting a new site in a different part of the country. We found out about it. I said, "You do that, we're going to do very bad things to you."

1:16:11 Yeah. Rob, do you have the tweet as well? Uh where they're saying to stay away from uh uh Iran if you're American, leave in early February 2026. The US virtual embassy in Iran issued a warning repeating that Americans should leave Iran now if possible. Uh have a plan for departing Iran that does not rely on US government help. Flight cancellations and disruptions are possible with little warning. Check directly with your airline for updates. If you cannot leave, find a secure location with your residents or another safe building. Have a supply of food, water, medications, and other essential items. That just came out yesterday. Avoid demonstrations. Keep a low profile and stay way uh uh aware of your surroundings. Monitor local media for breaking news. Be prepared to adjust your plans. Keep your phone charged and maintain communication with family and friends to inform them of your status.

1:17:02 This is not a regular warning, folks, that's being given to people demonstration part.

1:17:08 Well, I mean, you know, let me say a couple of things uh on Iran because I'm pretty hawkish. Uh, you know, I supported the president uh launching the B2 bombers after Israel had taken out uh the air capabilities, the air defenses that Iran had and going out and taking out those facilities. I think that was the right decision. Uh we've been talking about it for years. Obama talked about Iran having a nuclear weapon. Clinton talked about Iran having a George W. Bush talked about it. And you know what they all agreed? Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. So for 20 years, we've agreed that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Trump was the first one to do something about it and and launched the attack. I supported that. I I do think though now is not the time to back out. Right. We told the Iranian people we were coming to help. Now, I'm not for boots on the ground that I don't think will be successful. But this idea

1:17:55 that we can enter another JCPOA with them. No, no. I was against the first JCPOA. And if we're going to be consistent, it can't be like, oh, we were against it when Obama did it, but when Trump does it, we're going to be for it. This can't just be about nuclear weapons. It has to be about how do we help the Iranian people go forward. Now, you know more about this than than anybody, okay? This isn't just like what happened in Venezuela where if you just take out the supreme leader, like everything else will be fine. No, there's a whole list of people that come after that. So, this is a lot more complicated. Now, the Iranians only want to talk about nuclear. They that's that's that's their negotiating team has said we're not talking about ballistic missiles. We're not talking about, you know, the people and their rights. Now look, if we can through a deal, right, get some of those things, I'm very

1:18:42 interested. But if the deal is only on nuclear weapons, then then it's JCPOA all over again. And you know what? If I'm the Supreme Ayatollah, you know what my goal is? Even though he's an old man, my goal is I just got to survive three years. I just got to get past Trump. I'll get him into a deal. I'll get past Trump because the next guy, the next guy ain't going to do this.

1:19:03 And Trump can't fall for it. Now I he's got people around him. I think Marco is leading him in the right direction. Vance sometimes concerns me because he's an isolationist. Um but but Trump's got to recognize it's him or nobody. I mean that's that's where we're at when it comes to Iran. Like Trump, don't like Trump. They look at Trump as crazy as they are. Okay. And that works in that area of the region.

1:19:26 Uh J, I think uh I I agree with you on us uh intervening. Um I I saw videos yesterday. I couldn't even send them to Rob because of how bad people talk about protesters and stuff like that. They are IRGC is driving through crowds and I saw people getting completely run over and you know what I'm talking about. So I can't send it to Rob. Uh two things I think well first of all I don't think Trump and we know how he he plays this this chess. He's not going to divulge our our plans of attacking or not to some reporter that the network absolutely despises him. I want to ask you a question Jared. Do you think cuz I remember when everything was getting ramped up and looked like we were going to go and then Trump made a comment about Resz Pal the the the prince of of uh the king's son. Do you think Jared some of this is not stalled but kind of slowed down because Trump doesn't have confidence that Resza could take the

1:20:14 lead? Because Jared at the end of the day if we go in there and we do a strategic strike which I think we could take out everybody. The fact that this guy's hiding we know exactly where he is right now all day all the time. You think we're kind of holding back because they don't have a leader because somebody's gonna have to step up?

1:20:28 No, I actually think if you look at what happened in Venezuela, right, which from a military standpoint, whether you, you know, I argue that, you know, the president doesn't have that ability to do that without coming to Congress, although yes, it's happened previous presidencies,

1:20:41 but if you look at the strike itself, it was 100% successful, right? In and out, no boots on the ground, no lives lost, accomplished the mission. I think that they recognize if they're going to do something, it has to be flawless. They didn't have the assets in the region. So, they've been moving more and more and more assets in the region. By the way, we heard from Venezuela, they were practicing and practicing, right? All of that stuff is going on now. They're planning for all sorts of contingencies. But look, you know, what comes next, let's say the regime falls, what comes next, nobody knows. the idea that we're going to install somebody, I don't think that's going to be accepted, but that's going to be up to the Iranian people. I will say one thing, right? We we have heard a lot about, you know, other countries and about, you know, war crimes and and you know, this and that and their leaders,

1:21:31 they've killed tens of thousands of people here in these protests and and we may never know how many. We may never know the real the real number. A and but because it's not being fed to people every single day on Tik Tok on platforms like other conflicts the American people really don't know what's been what's going on there.

1:21:51 So want me to go ahead. So there's a genocide going on in Iran right now. Straight up. Their regime is killing tens of thousands of their own people allegedly. So where are the protests? Where's the Gaza crowd? Where's the social justice warriors? Why are you guys all so silent? Not one word. Not one encampment. Not Not one sign. You know, when when ICE kills somebody, there's a protest with signs in minutes. Not one sign. Social justice warriors on the left. Nothing.

1:22:27 There's no gays for Iran. No, there's no gays for Iran. No. At the Grammys, you're not you're going to you're going to say uh no one's illegal on stolen land. You're not going to say one thing about the tens of thousands of people that are killed in a week in Iran. Really, this is what we're doing. So when people look at your movement and go bunch of hypocrites, nothing. They just hate Israel. Because when the Iranian people kill people in their the regime kills people, their own people, you judge a regime or what they do to their own people. They're murdering their own people. And you mother suckers are silent.

1:23:04 Your silence is what people are noticing. I'm sorry. So, I don't know what USA is going to do, but I don't know what the people of Iran going to do. Because here's the one question. How many more dead Iranian bodies are we going to need before the world goes, "All right, guys. It's too much." Because they said genocide in Israel and Gaza literally 3 days after when they

1:23:27 No. No. No. The next day. The next day. Next day. But I hear zero genocide. So forgive me if we no longer care what the Gays for Gaza crowd or the free Palestine crowd has to say if you're going to stay silent on what they're doing in Iran. It's absolutely disgusting.

1:23:45 Tom, I it's it's been said, but you and you and Jared said it. I've got I don't have anything to add.

1:23:51 Yeah. If you look at this here, US Iran nuclear deal. Uh uh Rob, is this the one? What does it say? Uh right deal% before August 74% they're going to get a deal.

1:24:04 O and that just jumped I mean that jumped in hours last 24 hours. If you look at the amount of the volume on it is $81,000. Rob can you go to the other one with look at this one here.

1:24:16 Wow. Ali Kam as a out as a supreme leader. Look at the amount of uh uh uh money they've placed on this one here. Look at the volume. $16.75 million Vinnie.

1:24:30 Jeez. $16.75 million saying he'll be out by September 1st. I think right now this is,

1:24:36 by the way, if if he just dies of natural causes, do you win? I think so. That's a very good question.

1:24:41 Or is the prediction still counts? He's still out. He's out. He's nothing. You know what's interesting about this?

1:24:46 He's going to go up to heaven and have a 72. So, n I don't think I don't think about I don't think

1:24:50 What's very interesting about this, Koshi Pat? What's that? is they say he's out. 100% say he's out. 21% says it'll be before April 1st. 32% says it'll be before July 1st. So now that's 5354. Then 37% see be September 1st. So that's 8493 94.1.

1:25:13 Say 94% is saying he's going to be out. You see what I'm saying? They all say he's out. It's just when

1:25:17 that's our Tom Cornaki on the ones and twos right there. He knows. He got the 0.1 wrong, but for the rest of it, he did right. So, if you do the math, Tom, the 0.1 would be 7, but I'm not going to correct.

1:25:27 It's a decimal. He always forgets the decimals. Guy, look, he's turning red. I didn't didn't want to carry the one. And the one that's And the one that's going to be missing is Kamini.

1:25:38 But but going back to Tom, go going back to it. I think I think what is going on right now is the Iranian people are truly waiting for Trump to get this done.

1:25:50 Yeah. And if he doesn't do it, there isn't anybody else that can get it done for them. And it could be another 20 years.

1:25:57 Oh man. If 20 years, you're assuming they don't want foreign influence though Pat.

1:26:01 Another 20 years before anything else takes place where they'll have an opportunity of a guy like this capable of doing it. But the the part that they have to understand with him when I sat with him and we did the podcast he specifically said I said will you intervene will you drive pressure to Iran will you says I don't know all we have to we have to stay fluid every strategy is going to be different with everything we do he says but Patrick we already have so many problems in America right now that we have to fix we have so many problems so that's not good for Iranians because that's not what Iranians want to hear right that that is that is you know a a message where you know you're seeing the downro doctrine like this. But I also, you know, the the part that the part that doesn't change for me with this is, you know, he is so unpredictable, you have no idea what's going on

1:26:50 at all. The moment he thinks that you think he's going to attack here, he doesn't attack and then he attacks. The moment you think he's not going to be attacking and then he attacks. That's his way. That's that's has been uh his motto so far. So, we'll see what'll take place. But the reality of it going back to it, I don't I don't know. I don't know if there is anybody as a replacement right now. Like you said earlier, allow the people to select who they want and who they want their leader to be. We have no idea what's going to happen. I do think if it doesn't get done,

1:27:18 I think a lot of criticism will go maybe not by the RP community because the RP community RP can never do anything wrong in their eyes at all. He can never do anything wrong in their eyes.

1:27:30 Perfect. I think in their eyes he's their he's their son. In their eyes, he can't do anything wrong. But if this doesn't get done,

1:27:37 I put a lot of the onus on him and I said it from the beginning because he's never had this close of a shot to get this thing done. And again, every time I say this, people get upset, but that's my position. It hasn't changed.

1:27:48 Pat, one followup on this if you don't mind. Tell me, it seems like the people of Iran have the most hope they've had maybe in 47 years. If there was, you know, like there's the fear greed index when it comes to the economy and markets. Yeah. Where is the Iranian people on the hope despair index?

1:28:06 Lo than four weeks ago. Lower than two weeks. It's been declining. It's probably the lowest in the last four weeks.

1:28:13 Well, we said we said help was on the way. I mean, we didn't say it. The president said help is on the way.

1:28:19 Mhm. Right. I mean, let's just be clear. If Obama said help was on the way and then no help came,

1:28:24 that's crossing those red lines. No, but like everyone would have called them out like they did when they said when we said this is a red line in Syria and then it wasn't a red line.

1:28:33 Trump said help is on the way. If help doesn't come, the president recognizes something I think in his life, right? You know, I think he realizes, you know, he's he's got three years left his presidency. He's an older he's an older guy, you know, like this is a he's trying to put his stamp on things. Okay. I if he backs away from this, that will be part of his legacy versus the opposite, which is this is not just about the Iranian people.

1:29:02 He can fundamentally change the entire region immediately. The world the world. But you made a good point.

1:29:10 China would China would suffer, Russia would suffer. Oh, Venezuela. But you have to realize Turkeykey's calling them saying don't do anything.

1:29:18 Yep. Qatar's column saying don't do anything. These are people that are very very important players in the Middle East. I don't even think Saudi wants him to do anything. So if he's getting those calls and those are good partners and they don't want him to do anything and he's getting that close, question becomes who's going to convince him to do something? Not going to be China, not going to be Russia, not going to be Modi. Who who's it going to be? Just Israel. Is Israel's going to be the only one that's going to say do it? Well, well, don't believe what you read publicly. Yeah. Right. Like, so the Saudis are never going to come out and say, "Please do this."

1:29:53 They're going to come out and say, "We're against it. You can't use our airspace. We're not going to help."

1:29:58 Yep. Privately conversations are different. So, like sometimes you see you see like, "Oh, Mr. President, please don't do this. When is it happening? When's when's it going to happen?" Right? And especially with the first when we when we did those B2 bombers,

1:30:12 Saudi was also saying, "Please don't do it." We used we used their airspace. Mhm. Okay. So,

1:30:17 what do you think they're saying in private then is in public? No. I think the UAE said can't use our airspace.

1:30:22 I think this is the most important thing to MBS is to have it. I think what what I gather from what Saudi Arabia wants to accomplish is I think they recognize for the Middle East to emerge as an major economic region, which it has the potential to do. This is a necessary piece.

1:30:40 You're never going to be able to become what you want to become. What's the hold up? What are things to hold up?

1:30:46 I I I think personally when we went into Venezuela, we took out Maduro. We to we by the way, we set the plan that you talked about, Jared. We went to the number two and number three and say, "Hey, listen. You guys were all going to get wiped out. Follow in line. Do what we're going to say." And they're kind of holding it together because think about it. The military still has to be in charge. The government still has to run. And with Kmeni, who's going to be the number two guy? Another crazy person that's going to There's no negotiating with that sense. So, I'm saying that's why I think Jared, we didn't go. He kind of is holding back because if you take out Kumeni, which by the way, they can take him out like that. Who's number two? Another crazy anti-American, death to America, death to everybody that I I think I think they went a little bit too far, but I don't think Trump's not going

1:31:26 to do it. But the Israelis showed you could take out multiple people at a time, right? And so, listen, it takes a while to put those things in motion. So, I'm I'm good with pause, right, and time,

1:31:38 but I'm not good with never. I think he'll do it. I think he's going to do it on the hope despair chart.

1:31:44 If you want to have like a tough versus fake tough chart, Iran is fully on the fake tough chart for years. Death to America, like Maduro, come and get me. Oh yeah, we'll come and get you. The death to America chance, the the death to Israel, the death to England, the death to the West. And you can't you've never been you've never won a fight. I

1:32:06 All you do is fund proxies. your Triple H crew with Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, you're funding Islamic Jihad. You haven't won a fight since the 80s.

1:32:16 Trump is up. So, you're 40 years of not winning anything. And you're still talking tough Ayatollah. I think at any point if they want to take him out,

1:32:24 they could. The people that would suffer the most, which clearly the Ayatollas and the Moolas don't care, are the Iranian people. The number one question is how many Iranian lives have to die before this regime falls? cuz tens of thousands didn't move the needle one bit.

1:32:40 I Well, guess what? The fact that they dis told all the people there, the embassy and everything like that, watch Trump. The best time for him to do it would be halftime during Bad Bunny's performance just to make everybody look away from that thing.

1:32:51 Are you reading Are you reading the cables? Are you reading the international cables?

1:32:55 Getting back to Pat's question, take a look at history. We moved Maduro out when we knew that that whether it's CIA or it's other things or knowing who's behind him that there's going to be some relative stability and something progressing behind it. Yes. When we went and got Noriega and plucked him out of Panama, there was something that was relatively stable. We at least knew what was going to come up behind it. Neither of those destabilized.

1:33:19 Now you go take a look at right now we have history. Twice. Twice we armed the Mu Hajadin and got the Russians out of Afghanistan, but there was no leadership to flow in and it became even more crazy than it was before the Russians were there. Then what you see saw what happened to Saddam Hussein and there was no backup plan and it went nuts in Iraq. So I believe America is waiting till they can invoke and kind of control who and what comes up there because if you just take them out you history shows you in that side of the Middle East what flows in can be far worse and more uncontrollable and we're not talking about the oil right so the problem also is is that if you know if you take out a couple of people right and all of a sudden they there's just mass chaos and they stop producing as a result you know oil prices are going to spike and so he's hearing that as well. But, you know, listen, again, I I I think the

1:34:17 president has to realize that it's him or nobody. He's got a period of time to do it. If he doesn't do it, then then the Iranian people, this this is their future.

1:34:28 Well, I don't I don't think it's going to get worse. I'm moving out. Chinese linked bolab discovered in Las Vegas home. Adam will go 50 times if we don't stop him. I think that's important. Chinese linked bolab discovered in Las Vegas home sparks federal investigation with SWAT response. Rob, if you have a clip on this, go for it.

1:34:46 Jeez. Our 8 News Now investigators breaking yet more news about that bolab that was raided over the weekend. Documents we obtained reveal several people got sick from it. 8 News Now investigator David Charning that story. And David, what are you learning about it tonight? Well, these new documents say several people became sick from that suspected lab inside a house that police and the FBI are labeling as an Airbnb or a short-term rental. Metro showing this video of the inside of that lab inside that Northeast Valley's home garage.

1:35:16 We've learned a person tipped off the FBI in early January that that garage was locked and that there were fridges running inside. a person telling those investigators that it smelled like a hospital with a quote foul, stale, stagnant air smell. Now, documents say several days after entering that garage, two people became quote deathly ill. They said they couldn't get out of bed and several other people had gotten sick there before. Also learning items from this lab were moved from a different location here in the valley, possibly from several years ago when that location failed to get a state license.

1:35:52 Now, as we first reported over the weekend, this lab is connected to a lab the feds actually raided 3 years ago in 2023. That location there in Reedley, California, outside Fresno. Inside, officials found similar equipment and pathogens like HIV and malaria. Court documents in that case mentioned Las Vegas and possible warehouses here. And today I asked the city manager for that community about her reaction to this latest lab.

1:36:22 What was your reaction when you saw over the weekend that all these same people were involved in yet another potential bolab but this time in Las Vegas?

1:36:31 I will say that I was not surprised. Um you can pause it right there. Vinnie thoughts.

1:36:36 Okay. Um so Congressman, this is going to question that's going to come to you after I I uh talk about I I don't know how this isn't one of the biggest stories. Me and you talked about this yesterday. So, we just found this out. Um, in June, the DOJ arrested two Chinese nationals in Detroit for smuggling fungus that was going to be an agricultural terrorist weapon. During the Biden administration, China bought land. Congressman all over the United States, including next to military bases. They flew spy balloons at will.

1:37:02 Nobody stopped them. Nobody said anything. Gavin Newsome rolled out the red carpet for Xi Jinping. All the homeless people disappeared. Um, maybe they should have him visit more often. It'll save the taxpayers billions. And then China, let's go back, right, Tom? Xi Jinping's here. Clean up the homeless people. Um, China, in my opinion, my Vincent Oshan's opinion, unleashed COVID on the world, never been held accountable. And anyone that even opened their mouth and said China virus, we're all considered uh racist. So my simple is my uh my question is very simple, Congressman. At what point are we going to start treating China like the enemy that they are instead of saying that they're the adversary and continue to put Americans at risk? God for this is one lab that we found. Who knows what else is here cuz the border was wide open. How many the amount of Chinese nationals that crossed over were

1:37:48 absolutely insane. I'm just curious what your what your take is on that. Well, I mean, first of all, based on this, I need to go home and clean up my garage fridge. I mean, there's some stuff in here that's old that definitely is a biohazard.

1:37:58 Uh, so the guy, by the way, there's a guy already the guy in jail for the first lab. This is also his lab connected to this lab and he's he and we got him the first time. This is China. Yes,

1:38:10 this is directly linked to the CCP to have this stuff here just in case. Okay, there's just no doubt about it. First of all, remember I did the COVID response for the entire state of Florida. I didn't see my family for 4 months. I was quarantined with my whole team uh in the EOC. We lost a lot of doctors, a lot of nurses in those hospitals. I was doing, you know, all sorts of PPE, testing, vaccines, the whole deal. That virus came out of a lab. There's no doubt about it. the idea that it's like, okay, there's this lab that is called the Corona virus Wuhan lab. Uh, but it didn't come out of there. It came out right across the street from the wet market. I mean, come on. So, it came out of the lab. Now, whether it was an accidental leak, okay, or it was an intentional leak, that I don't know whether China allowed it to leave so that everyone got it, not just them. I mean, they let people leave China. They

1:39:02 didn't lock down. They could have done that. This is absolutely China. China is a our number one foe.

1:39:09 Yes, we have to also understand and deal with the fact that they are a major economic force. Okay, this they're not like anybody else. We can't deal with them from a military standpoint. It's a totally different we're totally encumbered with them. We offshored a lot of our stuff to China so we could have cheaper goods here. And so we are intricately linked. We have made them a rich nation. We have done that by becoming a consumer nation and making them a manufacturing nation. Uh but this is absolutely China. There's no doubt.

1:39:38 So, so Congressman, so my question is then how how do we address I get exactly what you're saying. That's where I was going to talk a little bit earlier, but how do you address this? Yeah, we need each other for business. But you are trying to destroy like if this guy was another co congressman, we're finished again.

1:39:54 You got to weaken them. You got to weaken them economically. And so what what you have to do, which is why I wasn't a fan of the tariff situation. What I w what I was a fan of was trying to onshore jobs back to America, right? Get some of these factories, get some of these corporations. Between the end of the Biden administration and the beginning of the Trump administration, we spent8 trillion dollars in these COVID rescue packages. You know how much money we put in there to onshore jobs back from China? Zero. That was our opportunity to do it. You know, the chips and the chips and science act, some of that is the same thing. Trying to onshore some of the stuff out of Taiwan back to America. We got we got to get manufacturing back here. First of all, god forbid we got into a world war.

1:40:35 We don't make [ __ ] here, okay? Nothing. I saw that during co we had to convert factories to make masks and ventilators. It took 10 weeks to do that. Nobody nobody could figure it out and we had to put so much money into it. China has so much control over everything that's made. Like 90% of medical ingredients come out of China by comes out of Wuhan out of all places. Weird.

1:40:57 Okay. We have to get some of these jobs back. that means prices are going to go up here and now with the tariffs I just don't know that we have the ability to do that.

1:41:04 So you when you said we uh we need to weaken them economically I feel like the reason that they unleash COVID was because Trump was trying to weaken them and put the tariffs and and do the trade deals with them. I think that was their their response was okay we're going to destroy him. He's not going to become president but now what do we do?

1:41:21 We haven't even mentioned the critical miner issue right like I was one of 10 Democrats that voted for the bill just yesterday. I'm getting a lot of crap for it because it had to do with mining. But but for me, it's all about critical minerals. People don't realize it because to your point, it's not a top story, right? We're not educating the voter. China controls 80% of the world's critical minerals. Putting aside that we need those things for cell phones and ships, all of our military weapons, all of them need these critical minerals.

1:41:49 And they control 80% of not just the where these mines are, but the processing. That's the key. The processing we we got to take. We got to get control of some of these mines. We're going to have to mine here to find some of these critical minerals. We're going to have to mine other places. That's why I never understood this idea of, oh, America first means we're going to retract from the world. You retract from the world. China takes the world. They take the whole world when we retract from the world. We can't do that. That is not America first.

1:42:18 Tom. So I this is exactly why you're seeing Trump minerals was on the table uh on the the first, second, and third offers for Ukraine. It was min it was mineral mining so that they could be processed. Minerals in Greenland was part of the discussion. And there's a variety of things that are going on in the US. uh alternative means of getting lithium like getting lithium out of seawater. Although just like desalination, it cost a fortune to do that unless you use fifth generation small nukes and would actually decide you're going to permit those because they create a lot of electricity where you could run desalination just like they do in Saudi Arabia by the way. Uh that's why parts of Saudi Arabia getting so green because they deselinate a lot and they've got the power to do it. And so what Trump has been on a a run on this you what's it USA mineral or USA the uh the company that was created. So

1:43:16 you're you're absolutely correct and he is trying to reduce that dependence. You know rare earth minerals and magnets will bring the uh defense industry to its knees particularly magnets if they suddenly stop. But the president has been looking at you know national security in terms of two things defense and economic security is national security and that is what you're seeing the president's progress has been made on rare earths and he should keep driving it Adam.

1:43:47 Yeah this story should scare the hell out of you. So, China releases in a wet market next to across from the Wuhan lab co in 2020. Basically getting their entire country sick and turning the entire world. They said to themselves, why do it in our own country this time? Let's go do it in Wuhan, Las Vegas. So, I'm reading this story and I'm like, what in the Wuhan lab, Breaking Bad, Anthony Fouchy world is going on here in Las Vegas? Imagine if they let a virus out right now in Trump's second term trying to derail Trump's second term for the second time. So like this is very scary. Here's a little marketing idea for anyone wants to get some eyeballs on the probably the most important story of our lifetime which is China trying to take over the world. The guy that owned the house was Xiau, but the property manager was a 55-year-old man named Ori Solomon. Just say that Ori Solomon has ties to the

1:44:51 MSAD and he met Shing Jing Zoo in Epstein Island. I KNEW IT AND I KNEW IT WILL FOCUS ON this thing moving forward. Oh, Chinese people in Las Vegas with a lab leak. No big deal. But he was on EPSTEIN ISLAND ONCE. WHOA. ALERT THE AUTHORITIES because attention flows where energy flows. Tension flows where energy goes. Unless you take the attention off of Epstein and put it on really things that are changing the world like Chinese lab leaks in America, nobody's going to pay attention to this.

1:45:23 All right, let's go to the next story. Wapo fires over 300 journalists. Damn as Jeff Bezos discriminated against white workers allegedly. Okay, wait a minute.

1:45:34 Uhoh. What? He's white. Rapo fires over 300 journalists as Jeff Bezos ignores correspondent. Please, I combine two stories together. That's okay.

1:45:41 Please, by the way, that sounded good though. THAT'S I WAS LIKE, HE'S WHITE THOUGH.

1:45:46 Let me go to it. All right. Page 28 uh is the story. Rob, do you have this? I think you may uh you may have a clip on this. So, WPO on Wednesday announced layoffs for a third uh uh of its newsroom, including its entire sports desk, ignoring reporters impassion please to billionaire owner Jeff Bezos. More than 300 journalists. Go ahead, Rob. Play a clip.

1:46:08 The Washington Post, owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, began widespread layoffs on Wednesday in a move that would drastically shrink the size of the newspaper. That's according to a recording of a companywide call shared with Reuters. A spokesperson for the newspaper said the cuts will impact a third of all employees.

1:46:30 Executive editor Matt Murray told employees the reductions will hit international editing, metro, and sports desks. The announcement comes just days after the paper scaled back its coverage of the 2026 Winter Olympics amid mounting financial losses. News outlets have struggled for years to maintain a sustainable business model in the digital era.

1:46:52 You can pause it right there, Tom. Thoughts? So, isn't it interesting that the world's second richest man who bought a newspaper and he said on the day he bought it to save democracy, right, is uns. And in the last three years, one year was a $64 million loss, one year was a $111 million loss. Check me on those numbers, but I believe those are correct. And he's finally saying, "Wait a minute. I don't know if we can make a business out of this. This has to go to digital subscriptions." I saw a chart yesterday published by the Wall Street Journal that showed that only the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times were having profitable success long-term on digital subscription as papers, you know, disappear. You know, it's very interesting is um we're down here in South Florida and you remember how big the Suns Sentinel used to be? Um, my father-in-law will come from Idaho, stay with us for about, you know, a month,

1:47:48 month and a half at a time, and he wants a daily paper. So, we get the Sun Sentinel. Have you seen how big that is now? It's small. It's like a pamphlet. That's what's happened to the newspaper. So, it's a business that is dying. The internet is killed. That instant news is dead. And Bezos did this, I think, to control narrative and things. Now, it's a business decision he's making. Well, there was also a business decision he made where they were ready to go. You know, that used to be when you run for office, what do you want? You want the police chief, you want the fire chief, you want the newspaper all to give you an endorsement. Oh, look, the mayor has been endorsed by all these people and the w League of Women's Voters. If you got that, then you got all the people that represented that, then all you need was the teachers union and in the small town mayor, you probably would win. So these were important vehicles in our

1:48:40 history in elections. They were about to come out and endorse Kla Harris and Bezos pulled it. He said, "No, we will be neutral. We will support no one." The newsroom erupted and said, "We think you're making the wrong call." Now for America, I think Bezos made the right call. But to tell you who was subscribing to the Washington Post, they lost 200,000 digital subscriptions in the next what 30 to 60 days that was there. So they didn't have a profitable business. They don't have a profitable business. Now there are better ways to do this because the layoff was happening. And where's Bezos? Bezos should have been there and should have been able like most entrepreneurs do say, "Well, you know, this part didn't work. this part did, but I tried. Failure is the freedom to fail. It's part of entrepreneurship.

1:49:33 It's part of American capitalism. Instead, people think that Bezos has been cozying up to Trump to get certain benefits for other businesses that he wants such as Amazon and he has a space business. and he was actually giving a spaceport tour to JD Vance supposedly at the exact time that the announcements of the layoffs were made to the people and that the the um executive editor wasn't even on the call when people were told you know how they did it Pat

1:50:07 don't come to work tomorrow get on an 8 a.m. Zoom and then watch your email. Let me let me ask this though, Tom. He bought it in October of 2013 for $250 million. He just let go of 300 journalists. I looked at online what the average salary is between 40 uh between 55 to $200,000. Let's take the average of $120,000 salary. $120,000 times 300, that's $36 million a year in savings. Okay. Automatically that you save that 36 million. Do you think he's sitting there? You know how sometimes you buy a business

1:50:42 and you buy it for different reasons to feed the flywheel and it ends up creating a lot of noise. Do you think WPO has been the number one noise creator for him that he probably sits there saying, "Why the hell did I get into this business?"

1:50:56 I I think that's very true. When he bought it, I read and this goes back years ago. I read an analysis. It was like a private equity analysis. You know, when private equity buys, you and I are in this business. Private equity buys a business, they immediately trim certain things.

1:51:12 Sure. Well, the question was, why the hell would any daily newspaper have its own sports section? When ESPN and the leagues have their own sites, their own apps, and everything, what are you going to add to conversation about the Washington Nationals that the MLB app, MLB.com, and ESPN don't always already cover?

1:51:31 So, you would have cut that day one. I would have cut that day one and just say, "Hey, we're going to be about the community. We're going to be about the political dialogue. We're going to bring you angles on international things." And I want to look at what really really works and what's not redundant and what can I oh crazy entrepreneurial capitalist word. What can I differentiate on rather than me too, me too, me too, me too. And so I I think this has created a lot of noise for Bezos over the last 5 years and it's created a hole at the bottom of his pocket. Remember what did he pay for it?

1:52:03 250 250 in October of 2013. He self-funded in the last three years he self-funded 174 in losses.

1:52:13 By the way, let me ask you a question. If he puts it on the market right now for sale, how many buyers are there that for just vanity reasons would buy it? I I think there's a reasonable number of buyers. Um the LA Times syndicate has got it kind of turned around. I don't know if they have the capital, but they've had a bloody path of their own, a terrible path of their own. The LA Times. So, I think someone would be there, but I don't think there's going to be a line at the door. I mean, take a look at CNN. How long did they try to sell that before the current situation with WBD? They were trying to sell CNN at the last two Allen conferences and Zaz couldn't get any takers. We talked about that on this podcast. And you would ask the same question, Pat. You would say, "Doesn't someone see value in CNN to come in and turn it right?" I know what I would do.

1:53:04 I mean, Mark Benhoff just came out and said, "Time magazine, we're just not making money with Time magazine." He bought it for

1:53:09 I don't know what he paid for, 350 350 something when they bought it. And Rob, if you want to look this up, and that created a ton of noise. Uh, I do think there's a lot of people that would buy it. You know, there's certain assets. I'm looking up right now. New York Times has roughly 11.88 million total paid subscribers with 11.3 million digital only. Okay.

1:53:32 New York Times and Wall Street Journal are the best in digital and they're making money. Very few others are.

1:53:38 WPO has 2.3 million. Those two combined. I'm trying to figure out what LA Times is. Apparently, LA Times is print and digital is $650,000, which means, and by the way, you know what Peter paid for LA Times?

1:53:51 LA$500 million. I don't know. I think he can probably turn this and make a profit and sell it for half a billion dollars. As crazy as it sounds, I think some billionaire would buy it from him. I don't know why Bezos is not dumping Wapo and moving on with his life. It's creating so much un if I was his PR rep or if I'm his I'm his agent manager sitting there saying Jeff why

1:54:14 what are you doing what are you doing there's nothing you can do right that you're going to win with WPO dump the damn thing let's let me get to work and sell it at a discount we'll still get $450 for it and make you an additional $200 million I would dump WPO in a heartbeat if I was him Adam

1:54:30 well I think he uh is regretting purchasing it the the day that Trump got reelected in 2024, he's like, "Yeah, I'm out on this." Because if Trump didn't get re-elected, all the media landscape would be completely different right now. So look at all the billionaires who have spent money on media. You're not doing it namely as just an investment. So take what Elon did and saved free speech, 44 billion I think he spent on X. That's that's an anomaly. Most of these guys who are worth hundreds of billions are spending hundreds of millions on media.

1:55:05 1% of their net worth. This isn't a big transaction for someone like Bezos. He's worth 250 billion. He bought this for 250 million. Just a drop in the bucket. 1%. HE SPENT 500 million bucks on his mega yacht.

1:55:21 Bezos. So, this to me is nothing. This is all about controlling the narrative. Uh making action on culture. I'm not controlling the narrative. It's just not able to do it because

1:55:31 the noise Trump became president. If Trump wasn't president and Kamla was president, you don't think he'd be railing on what's going on here? Kamla using that as like a as as a leverage to get him closer to the administration. So now, was Bezos at the at the inauguration? Yes or no? He was. Remember Mark Zuckerberg was famously looking at Bezos's wife's chesticles, whatever you want to call them. So, he's playing a hard game now.

1:55:58 Nobody uses that. Nobody uses heard. I've never heard that ever. not to get cancelled by the trans community,

1:56:04 but with chest feeding. But once once Trump became president, Bezos was like, "Oh no,

1:56:12 now he's in the middle of a pickle." But by the way, I disagree. The greatest time for media is Trump. If you can't make money in media now,

1:56:22 if you can't make money now, you are not going to make it after but sell it today because it's never going to get as good. Understand that. Bezos is wants to get closer to the Trump administration for other reasons.

1:56:32 By the way, Bezos for Amazon for Blue. You asked a question earlier why people got close to Epstein, right? So, we we talked about how billionaires are not cool. You know, cool people don't have money. They're broke. All these different reasons. Bezos is the face of billionaires who were not cool and he tried to become cool. So, he got some tartina's body, body looks good, exercises, became cool, dates a beautiful girl, moved to Miami. He's kind of trying to get through that phase. But to me, number one advice today, dump this damn asset. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next 12 months we hear a story that Jeff Bezos has sold WAPO for $339 million to some other billionaire out there. Don't be surprised if it happened this quickly. He's at a phase of his life that he needs to minimize noise.

1:57:18 He's graduated into the cool phase now. You don't need to do this anymore. But then he won't own a media asset

1:57:23 now. Go buy a sports team. Go buy something else. Don't do this. You can be cool. Sports owners are different. They're cool. If you think about sports owners, like, hey, you know, they go to Thai massage places, you know, they they go to different kind of places. They sports owners, they have a different kind of a reputational marketplace, right?

1:57:40 Don't go after my guy over there. Patriots. Well, we're going to get into that here in a minute because we got to find out who's going to do this. But

1:57:48 I I want to get into one other story. I want to get into one other story before we wrap it up. What was the story? I was literally just looking at the story I want to go to next. Oh, here we go. It's a very It's probably out of all the stories we've talked about, I

1:58:03 I'm probably going to put this at the top. I'm going to put this at the top and I think you're going to agree with me when I read you. No, it's a very

1:58:10 like national security in Malaysia. No, no. I'm just trying to see because what happened in Malaysia?

1:58:14 What Jared? How hard do you guys work with your job? Congress. Yeah, it's a joke.

1:58:19 It's a joke. It's a joke. Not that much work. We We had a three-day work week this week.

1:58:23 Okay. Okay. Well, because it's Yeah. Well, then that's good for this. First of, it's not even a three-day work week. We fly in. We have votes Monday night. Then we had one set of votes Tuesday, votes Wednesday, Wednesday afternoon. Out.

1:58:35 Done. That's it. That's it. Are you guys hiring? I don't think you can make this sort of money. I don't think you can make THIS SORT OF MONEY.

1:58:44 ROB, you're going to have to change your profile photo. Okay. But I don't think you can make that sort of money uh in capital. What what I tell people like when I was the director of emergency management like that I was working 20our days

1:58:57 Congress doesn't work I mean what's our approval rating 18% 17% that's high for you guys right now high it's at an alltime low

1:59:05 18% so this kind of takes me to the story because this is actually a good transition into the story because the Malaysia minister

1:59:15 he believes work stress makes you gay this is what you want to talk remark in parliament goes viral.

1:59:23 I got to go. Oh man, look at that. How neon's react. So, by the way, Rob, is this truly a real story? That's what I want to know.

1:59:32 Are you serious that this is a real story? Well, he's the minister. He's the Malaysian minister says that workplace stress can push individuals to become involved in the LGBTQ community. That's

1:59:42 I've heard a lot of different things. I don't know if I've heard anything dumber than this here, by the way, Rob, but just please fact check that he actually said this.

1:59:51 I think he this is factual. I just want to I just want to make sure this is not one of these

1:59:58 fake stuff that uh I think it was by Zulitha man. Is that the name? I'm going to

2:00:03 guys. I mean if this is a true story would actually report that Malaysian religious fair ministers did not remark suggesting that a mix of factors including work related stress, social influence on social experiences and lack of religious practice could lead to this.

2:00:20 Okay, so this was a reply from a response. By the way, if this were factually based during COVID, I would have been the gayest president you had ever met. Okay, because I didn't sleep for 4 months. Okay, man. I don't know about

2:00:34 So, this is hard work makes you gay. Adam, you're safe. Yeah. So, no. This makes this Tom Four out of 10. Four out of 10.

2:00:43 Four out of 10. Four out of 10. You're being friendly. Anyways, this I was just going to ask this because I wanted to find out from you if you know our our

2:00:51 Well, he's safe cuz he just said Congress is chilling or not. But to me, if you say something like this, every entrepreneur in the world is gay according to

2:00:58 closet. military veteran, you know, working 80 hours a week. They're uh you know,

2:01:04 I mean, Trump does like the Village People. He does. Favorite song and he's building a ballroom.

2:01:09 I mean, I don't think I don't think that can be debated that he likes village people. Musk says save act requiring ID. Okay, this is a good one for you, Jared. We're going to come to this to you to see if uh are these diamonds real or not. So, Musk says act requires ID to vote must be done or democracy is dead. Rob, do you have this clip?

2:01:30 I do. This is the tweet and then I have the clip that the tweets in reference. So Glenn Beck tweets,

2:01:35 by passing this one act, the GOP will save the Republican and and rescue the GOP if they fail. We all fail. 80% of all Americans want this. You need ID to for everything except voting. There is only one reason not to pass this and we all know what it is. Okay, so that's what he's saying. Elon comes out and says it must be done or democracy is dead. Rob, if you want to go to the clip of Elon Oh. to this clip and this is CNN which is phenomenal. Go for it. And then Jared, I'm going to come to you.

2:02:02 Take a look here. Favorite photo ID to vote. 85% of white people favorite. 82% of Latino. 76% of black Americans favor it. So the bottom line is this. Voter ID is not controversial in this country. A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party and it is not controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj that in fact you should have a photo ID to be able to vote.

2:02:29 So something of a n Jared thoughts. By the way, do have you guys voted recently? You go with a photo ID. I think you show your driver's license and if you don't have a driver's license, you have a governmentissued license. That's how you vote. So you do vote in Florida with a photo ID and you have to do that in all the other states as far as I know that you have to show photo ID. So look, I am all for showing a photo ID to vote. That is not what the Save Act is doing. Elon is is telling the truth. And he says this will save the republic. He he should have said Republican. Okay, this what the Save Act really is about is about getting people less people to vote. It really that's what it is. First of all, it would create a dramatic problem for women who have their their uh maiden name on their birth certificate and their married name on their driver's license. Okay? because it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't fix

2:03:20 that issue. So that's that's one of the reasons why the save act doesn't how long is I got to stop you. I'm sorry.

2:03:26 Go ahead. Maiden name to married name. Yeah. So the thing is if if your honestly respectfully you're going with that. How many decades is that a problem?

2:03:35 No. No. But if your photo ID doesn't match your birth certificate, you might not be able to get the voter ID card. Okay. So we went we went to Republicans to say, "Hey, just fix that issue." Didn't want to fix it. Okay. This is about people who are poor, who work several jobs, and are not going to have the time to go get this new voter ID. This is no different than getting people off of the mail and voting roles, which they did in Florida, to make them reregister again. This is about decreasing voter turnout. Period. When he says there there is only one reason not to pass this, and we all know what it is. Yeah, I I know what it is. This is about less voter turnout. Getting those lower propensity voters not to vote. There are ways to do this. This is the way they want to do it is just about less voters. That's what it is.

2:04:24 By the way, you said earlier that every state requires an ID to vote. That that's just not true. They're

2:04:30 I just said I don't I said I know in Florida we No, but but that's the problem. You lived in Florida. I lived in LA, California. Right now I lived in Texas. We lived in Texas 5 years. You

2:04:38 have a voting card. Well, no. If you go if you Rob, pull it up real quick. I think it's u I don't know what it is. 10 or 15 states that you can go vote with no ID. And then there are states that you can vote with no photo ID. Uh uh yeah, zoom in a little bit on the color so we can explain what the colors are. Yeah, no IDs required are the grays. No photo ID required to vote. And then the blue is photo ID required. Look where you live. Florida. Photo ID required.

2:05:06 I'm all good with photo ID being required. Oh, you are with that. You're good with that.

2:05:09 Yeah, but photo ID like your government issued ID to vote. Yeah. Not a new not a new thing that I have to go do. Like the Save Act wants to create a new process. It doesn't say you can use your driver's license. You can use your governmentisssued ID. That's not what the Save Act does. It now says that you need to go get your birth certificate to go get your new voter ID card. You got to go take your passport to go get your new voter ID card. It's not saying you now need your regular driver's license to go vote. You need your regular federal ID that you use to fly to go vote. That's not what the Save Act does.

2:05:44 It wants to create a completely new ID that you're going to need to vote. And that's why it's voter suppression.

2:05:48 What is Global Entry? Global Entry, if I'm traveling TSA, don't I have to get I did a background ID, right? You know what Global Entry is?

2:05:55 Yeah, of course. That's the fast lane. Yeah, the fast lane. That's not m Global Entry is not mandatory though.

2:05:59 No, no, it's not mandatory. No, what I'm saying is I I know it's not mandatory, but where I'm at the least, they don't even want photo IDs. So, I think what they're trying to do here, my opinion, you can push back and you're in this world, so you can push back. I think they're going for this,

2:06:15 but I think they're willing to settle that photo ID. So, I think if they go in the room,

2:06:19 but then put that bill on the floor that you have to use your governmentisssued ID, your current governmentisssued ID or your passport, right? any federal government issued ID you can use that right you you can use it what you when you fly when to drive you can use it they want to create a new voter ID that's

2:06:38 you have a vote on the floor I voted I voted against it why don't yeah then caucus with people and go for the the the compromise

2:06:46 they don't want to they don't want to compromise because that compromise doesn't achieve the objective the objective is to create a new process that a lot of people won't participate in and will

2:06:55 why not though why not your listen you. There's a lot of people that don't have time to sit here and do a podcast. They're working three, four jobs, right? When when they took people off those voting roles for the mail,

2:07:04 those guys had time to go get an ID. If you can go get They have an ID, let them use it. If Let them use their driver's license.

2:07:10 Yeah. But but what what is the argument for a voter ID? What is the argument for it?

2:07:15 Their argument Their argument Their argument is saying you should have an ID to go vote to prove it's you. Great. Let them use their federal issued ID.

2:07:22 Can illegals get a photo? Can you get a if you're an illegal alien, can you get an ID in California, a driver's license?

2:07:29 Well, let me tell you how California works. If you bring your California ID to Texas or Florida, Tom, you'll remember this.

2:07:36 Yep. When you bring it here, you need to show two form of identification and bills and whatever to get an ID. I don't remember exactly what it was.

2:07:45 Do you know what they didn't use, Vinnie? The California ID. You know this? No. But why? So if I came here, they they looked at the Texas ID as valid, but they don't look at California ID as valid.

2:07:59 Weird. That's exact. Do you remember this time? That's correct. And so Texas, you go to get Jared, maybe you don't know this. Texas, I go to get my driver's license. I get there 2013. Uh, and I go to get my driver's license in Texas. I show them a California license and they're like, "Um, no. I need a power bill to validate your address or something or a lease or anything that you've got here to val and utility would be great because it's with the city. Um, to validate your address, but um you need a uh do you have a birth certificate or passport?" I says, "Why?"

2:08:27 "Cuz the California driver's license is on our excluded ID list to get a driver's license in Texas." I said, "Why is that?" because a California driver's license has been corrupted because they allow um yeah people who are not citizens to get it. So there's not a proof of citizenship on that because of recent things they've done. So it's off our list. Sorry to inconvenience you. You can go to the head of the line if you come back and bring your form with the P. So I went home. I got my passport and went got back in line. I that's how I got my Texas. So this is what Texas is doing in terms of because they knew what California had done to its own driver's license by compromising it by allowing um you know il illegal aliens to actually get California driver's license.

2:09:12 First of all, the entire country just changed to that new sort of federal ID for your driver's license, right? So the whole country moved over that the real ID. So the whole country moved over that. Number one. Number two is we let people fly with that California driver's license that that you're talking about. So, it's obviously good enough for for TSA because we let people fly with that. Third, guys, there's no evidence, none, zero, that has ever been presented that there are mass undocumented people voting and changing the elections. Trump litigated his election in 2020 in front of 70 different judges, in front of all these jurisdictions. They presented stuff. There was no evidence that this took place.

2:09:50 So, let me ask you a question. What then? Why for Biden's administration for four years was the border completely wide open?

2:09:58 Totally different issue and it should and it should have been. Well, yeah. And I understand and I know that you you agree with me on that, but

2:10:03 no voter ID, new voters in the right places. Yeah. But but here's the thing. Give me I'm not saying I'm just saying in general as the Democratic party because it's not that they cared about these illegals. They don't give two craps about it. If we're going to be honest, they don't give a damn about the kids. They don't give a damn about these people that are coming over. Almost 15 to 20 million people here. Give me the argument for why they let the bid administration let them come in here. Is it for the census numbers that count towards redistricting for people and pe people sitting in Congress that because their fight right now, the biggest fight that's happening in the country right now is the left seems like they care more about illegals than they care about Americans. Giving them housing, getting them in there, protesting in the streets. Nobody's protesting about anything else. All the problems that we

2:10:46 have in this country, they are fighting for people that do not belong here. And there has to be an explanation. There has to be a simple because it's not that they care. Democrats rep, nobody gives a damn about these people. Trump is Trump is fixing he's trying to fix a problem that the Biden administration did. It's it's like it's like somebody coming into your house pooping on the floor and then you're getting mad at me for picking UP THE POOP. WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I'M CLEANING UP THE MESS THAT they made. So So the argument comes to they can't vote. Go to California, you can vote. Go to these 16 states. You don't even need a photo ID. My thing is you have to have I I I know you agree identification. The Save Act says you have to be a citizen. And for all these married women and whatever your lazy ass is and go get a freaking ID. Anybody could do it.

2:11:29 It's already the law that you have to be a citizen to vote. Okay. First of all, Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump did in both his terms. In his first term, Barack Obama did. Okay. Tom H. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Homeman got an award from Barack Obama. Okay. Got the medal. Barack Obama has still deported more people than Donald Trump is deporting now. So to blame the whole party on this issue is not true. Second of all, this immigration issue has been going on for a long time. Yes, this is a 20 30-year deal. And yeah, election issue isn't is is linked up to that.

2:11:58 Why? Because the reason why you don't want to give a path to citizenship is if you give them a path to citizenship, guess what they get? They get the ability to vote. And then yes, Texas could go blue. So they're not going to let that happen. So by the way, why why are they against that? Because they know they can't vote now. They can't vote now. That's why they don't want to give them the path to citizenship. If you give them a path to citizenship, then they do get to vote. So, this just proves that they can't vote now. That's why they're against doing it. Guys, there's no evidence of this. Let people use their regular governmentissued ID.

2:12:29 We don't need to create an entirely separate new voter ID that a lot of people are just not going to be.

2:12:36 What's the likelihood this passes? Well, I mean, it passed the House, so it's up to the Senate. Senate is twothirds or Senate has

2:12:43 they need 60 votes because there's the automatic filibuster. And what they're trying to get John Thoon to do now is to do is to is to change the filibuster rules and do what's called a standing filibuster, which is to go back to the old days when you actually had to stand on the floor and filibuster. So, Democrats would need someone on the floor constantly talking all the time to stop it. Now, if Thon does that, that be painful.

2:13:06 Yeah. If th Well, you'll like all those speeches. If Thoon does that, then you know, then obviously we're continuing to change the rules in the Senate. And I will say this, Democrats and Republicans together have changed the rules in the Senate. Remember, Harry Reid got rid of uh the filibuster for Supreme Court judges and then Republicans got rid of it for regular district court judges. That has led to the judiciary now being a lot more partisan.

2:13:29 Yeah. If the Senate continues to get rid of the rules, they're just the House. They just become the House. Yeah.

2:13:34 If it's majority rule in the Senate, it's just the House. House. And here's what happens. What happens is every four years or 6 years, we're going to pass statutes, then we're going to remove statutes. We're going to pass more statutes, then we're going to remove statutes. And and this country, the chaos will get even worse. Uh as we've gerrymandered all these districts, general elections don't matter anymore, right? It's all about the primary, running to the left, running to the right,

2:14:01 amping up the division. Uh and so you know I hope he doesn't get change the filibuster rules because then we just continue continue and continue.

2:14:10 But uh but congressman for in the constitution article 1 section 4 says congress can at any time make laws to regulate and alterction procedures especially when it's getting out of hand like this but still going back to my initial question what was the reason for opening the border for Alejandro Mayor sitting in Congress saying the border is secure saying the border is secure. So, we were invaded by our our government.

2:14:33 She eventually found the border. Yeah. Well, she did. Yeah, she once. I I guess. But and I'm curious because I I I know you're opposite. You don't want You have You have a family, Congressman. You have children. God forbid God forbid something ever happened by somebody that does not belong in this country from a purposeful president and a and a an administration letting these people in. I'm just looking for because I know a bunch of American people, especially ones that have lost loved ones, family members that have lost daughters that were sexually assaulted, the Rword, all that stuff. What was the reason for opening the border? And even when Texas went to put barbwire, they sued. They went and put up bulldozers and picked up the thing and let them come in. What is the rational? Well, explain that to me.

2:15:12 How did that happen? AND HOW DID NOBODY SAY ANYTHING ON THE LEFT? They were just like, "Come on, come on in." That's why people like me question like, "Why would you let them in?" I'm so curious.

2:15:20 There were there were people on the left that were talking about the remain in Mexico policy. There were people on the left talking about, listen, there's a difference between economic asylum versus physical asylum. Look, my my family came here escaping the Holocaust. My grandmother was part of the Kinder transport out of Germany. Her her family was killed in Awitz. My grandfather escaped Poland from the Pgrams. His entire family, everybody, aunts, cousins, uncles, everybody was killed. This country let us come in. By the way, first they didn't. They turned the ship around. But eventually they let us come in escaping persecution. Okay, look, Latin America ain't ain't a of course a great place obviously not. So there's a lot of people that want to come here for opportunity. Now the difference the question is is did we provide a magnet?

2:16:04 Because that's when we hear about immigration, you can hear about this magnet that you can turn on that attracts versus flipping the magnet around and repelling. Okay, we clearly turned the magnet on and too many people too many people came too many people came in. Hold on. We didn't bust them here. They came because

2:16:21 but they but BUT BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT AND THEM SAID COME IN WE'RE NOT TRUMP. Come in here.

2:16:25 They they came they came because they're escaping their conditions. Now whether we should have let them seek asylum in the country versus remaining in Mexico while they seek asylum. That's the policy I agree with which is let these people seek asylum but we shouldn't have necessarily let them all in to seek asylum. But but congressman 20 let's say let's say 15 million people and I get it just so but my his family him included my mother my grandmother all they all came here from the Middle East to escape that and I get it but they came through a process and what I'm saying is what about the millions I think Thomas Hman said what unfair to them ready yeah unfair but here ready for this 2 MILLION GOTAWAYS MEANING WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO they are we don't know where they ARE WE JUST HEARD ANOTHER STORY ABOUT A CHINESE BOLAB THAT HAS freaking all these pathogens in it and then 300 00,000 missing children AND WE'RE SITTING HERE

2:17:14 TALK ABOUT EPSTE AND WHAT all these kids and all the it's unbelievable the amount of damage that they did and you talk about these Democrats CONGRESSMAN WITH ALL I DIDN'T HEAR ONE Democrat stand up stand up during the Biden administration and say guys shut the border what what are we doing Alejandro Marcus you're full of crap

2:17:30 let me let me say one more thing about this so the president's immigration policy in August had a 59% approval rating today it has a 39%

2:17:38 why do you think that is because the media saying that he's Hitler and he's a Nazi

2:17:41 hold up first of I I Nobody's Hitler other than Hitler. That's always Thank you. That's always the rule. There's nobody The rule you live by is Hitler is Hitler. Compare nobody to Hitler.

2:17:49 One of one. Okay. Yeah. Well, the left. But here's here's the thing. Okay. The American people voted

2:17:56 to go after gang members and criminals. He told us that's what they were going to do. Yes.

2:18:01 And they voted for that. No doubt. What? Illegals. Hold on. He said he said criminals, gang members, as these people who escaped this.

2:18:09 Ials are criminals. If you're illegal by Hold on. I'm not debating that. That's not what he told the American people. He didn't tell the American people were going.

2:18:17 Can you pull up his Trump 4720 promises? I I don't know if he did or not. Maybe you're right. We We'll read it right now.

2:18:23 But the American people are watching what they're watching live on TV and that's how Trump lives his world. That's not what's happening. Okay. That's not what's happening. The mission went way beyond what the American people were told and anticipated. We're going into factories, you know, for Hyundai and getting rid of their workers. We're getting rid of people that are working in our fields.

2:18:43 There it is. So, Trump's number one promise, seal the border was seal the border and stop the migrant invasion. He didn't say criminals. He didn't say any of that.

2:18:51 That's a different Hold on. But that's a different issue. Sealing the border and stopping coming in is different than what do you do with the people here?

2:18:56 Well, look at number two. Well, no. Carry out the largest deportation operation. But that's his promise though. But he's failing. for saying that. But to me, let me ask you a question. Okay, so here's a question for you. What is harder to get? Is it harder to get a photo ID?

2:19:14 Is it harder harder to get the SA save Act voter ID? Or is it harder to get a green a green card?

2:19:19 It's harder to get a green card. Green card. Okay. So, it's harder to get a green card.

2:19:22 Yeah, 100%. So, so the people that you're saying have a hard time because they're so busy and they're not going to do anything illegal if they have a

2:19:30 No, that's different. We're talking about I'm talking about citizens right here.

2:19:33 But I totally get it. But some somebody who's here that that is a citizen or even's got a green card. People with a green card can can vote. If you got a green card, I joined your military with just a green card and I wasn't a US citizen. Just so you know. I I joined the army with a green card. So even if somebody can get a green card and green card's harder to get, why can't they get people to get a you know the voter ID?

2:19:55 What What would be the difficulty of that? You're saying to people that have three jobs, we're I'm running nine companies. I'm working.

2:20:02 But we don't need But take Florida. We don't need new voter ID. We have But that's not Florida. But that's not Florida. So to you, you've lived in a state that you don't have this issue, Congressman. Respectfully, you guys don't deal with that here.

2:20:15 I'm saying take take what Florida's doing. People are allowed to use their driver's license. Okay? They're allowed to use their federally issued.

2:20:23 The difference the difference is this. Here's the difference. And I and I'm I'm loving this exchange because it's we're going through leaks that every one of us is trying to find out. Especially for myself, you this is your world.

2:20:33 I can't, if I'm running the country, tell California what to do with the photo photo ID law of that state.

2:20:40 Yep. The only thing I can do is to say, "Oh, you don't want to you don't want to requ photo photo ID." But guess what we're going to do for the country? Everybody needs a voter ID. You want to screw on with me and kind of do this stuff uh in a complete different way. But where's the evidence that that's happening?

2:21:01 Gavin News signed the Senate Bill 1174 that said go you they they got people in trouble for but there's there's no evidence that tens of let's just say tens of thousands. Okay. First of all, California's

2:21:13 then you have nothing to worry about. Yeah. Exactly. Then you have nothing to worry about.

2:21:15 Of course I do. There's no evidence you have nothing to worry about. Of course I do. Because now you're going to make workingclass people who vote Democrat go get a brand new separate ID. Yeah. So that that's going to that's going to decrease turnover. If you're saying if you're saying there's no proof that our people doing this, then there's nothing to worry about. Let's just kind of move forward and make it honest and get states that don't want to allow people to have IDs have IDs. This is a very very clear issue for me. It's not a complicated issue for me. If you have the time to go cross the border legally or illegally, get your green card, get your ID, get a job, take your kids to school, get a TSA period, get all this stuff, you have the time to go get a vote.

2:21:53 That's not who the Save Act is going to target. The Save Act is going to eventually affect lower income workingass people who are not going to go do this separate process to vote.

2:22:02 Why is it going to target there's I mean we could talk 12 hours about why people

2:22:08 60 seconds because they're they're so busy trying to just survive in this country that every barrier you put in front of people what why did the pole tax stop people from voting? Every barrier you put stops people from voting.

2:22:23 By the way, what if he does this? What if he does this? Okay, great. Hey, if you're watching, here's an idea for you. To all the people you're so worried about, I have a very simple proposition to Republicans. Guess what? The US government will pay for one day vacation for you to go get your voter ID because you are so busy. So, let's do the math. If you do the math, you got how many working people? Those that don't have a problem with it. Let's let's target the people that are the low income. What percentage? Rob, can you pull up a percentage of what percentage of people would be considered low uh uh what's the what's the way we want to categorize minimum low income? What percentage would you put lowincome adults in America? Voters

2:23:03 lowincome adults. I mean American what is the number? 10% 10.6%. So what is that? 35.9 million poverty.

2:23:10 Perfect. Below poverty take their average salary say 32,000. Let's just make it 50,000. Take 50,000 divided by 200 days. 50,000 divided by 200 days is what? $250. $250 times 35.9 million is what? Rob, can you do the math, please? $250 times We're going to do some math with this congressman here. We're going to figure this out together. We're not even in office.

2:23:34 It's like a movie Dave. So, $250 times 35 $35.9 million makes it 8.7 8.9 billion. Guess what? We paid 8.9 billion to dumber things. Let's pay $ 8.9 billion dollars for people to get one full day paid workday because we're so concerned because they're busy. Go get it done. If we pay them, would you be open to it?

2:23:58 By the way, if you give people a holiday to go get their voter ID and you give them a holiday to go vote, I'm all for it.

2:24:04 Perfect. NOW, BY NOW, BY THE WAY, NOW BY THE WAY, HOLD ON. MY MY Republican colleagues have been against that for decades.

2:24:14 No, no, no. We were just on another because because if you give people a holiday, it increases voter turn.

2:24:18 Well, they don't want to work too hard cuz they don't want to become gay. Increases voter turnout.

2:24:21 Jared, can I I got to add a clarifying point. Clarifying point. You I'm now reading the small text.

2:24:28 We have a deal, but let me let me Tom, you're overselling. I thought you I thought you were against filibusters. Stop. So 38% of Americans right now approve of the way the ICE and the policy is being executed. That is what you said is not that's a whole different debate.

2:24:50 67% of Americans this day according to a Maris poll Harris poll and Rasmusen so there's a poll in there for everybody

2:24:59 say they agree with the president's policy wrongly. So you can't that's even a worse indictment. Hold on. Think about what you just said.

2:25:08 They voted for a policy that they're not seeing and the execution of it. That's why the president said the other day he said public relations. But what you said, hang on, Jud. What you said a minute ago, I just want to make sure it's clear because there's two different things here. There's the policy they agreed with that they voted for that they still support to this day. And this is of all voters, the 67%. On the Republican side, it's like 88%. So that's the blend. But 38%

2:25:34 That's why he should fire, by the way. That's why he should fire Gnome. She's been a total disaster.

2:25:39 Now, I wasn't opening the door for that. We can debate all these things. Jared, Jared, Jared, we like you. This has been going well.

2:25:46 What happened to Trump? HOLD ON. WHAT HAPPENED TO TRUMP? TRUMP made tens of millions of dollars firing people weekly on television. People tuned in. It was much CTV.

2:25:55 Okay. See, this is what happens when Hold on. Eric on one side on the left. You're fired. People loved it. He was popular. And now he's like firing people's weakness. That's weakness.

2:26:06 Well, can I can I You've already spoken, BUT WELL, I TRY TO BE one small one one small point. Can you at least admit, Congressman, that the look of what's happening is on it's two-tiered. Number one. Number one. Uh-huh. Well, number one, when you have when you have the media who all despise him from CNN to MSNBC, they're m they're making the coverage and the the way that they're reporting it is absolutely abysmal. Number one. Number two, when you have the the sitting governor, the sitting mayor Elon Omar saying, and by the way, I I take complete offense. I'm not Jewish, Congressman. WHEN PEOPLE SAY HITLER AND HITLER, THAT'S ONE OF THE the the worst thing that you can do. They've been calling freaking Trump and all this Gustapo. I think it's absolutely disgusting, especially when people have had family members lost under German rule. I think it's disgusting when you have those people.

2:26:54 By the way, Joe Joe Rogan called them the Gestapo just Yeah. Well, hold up. We talked about that. But here's the thing, Congressman. IF YOU HAVE THE LEADERSHIP of the state saying, "HITLER, GESTAPO, GET IN THEIR FACE. Do this." And then you have nurses going up to people with a gun on them, interfering with federal law enforcement. I know you know it's illegal. That is a problem. Okay? Because at the end of the day, New York Times reported this and they didn't have they they were their minds were boggled. They didn't know where this came from.

2:27:20 Murder is down 20%. Overdoses of drugs, HEROIN, FENTANYL, EVERYTHING IS DOWN all-time low. They don't even know how to respond to it. Could that be because he's kicking all these people out? And I understand I understand with a mass immigration deportation. There's going to be people here. Okay, we got this person wrong. We got this. That's going to happen. But the media is making him look like he's a freaking maniac, which Obama's the number one guy. He's trying to catch Obama because he wants to be number one. And the fact that the governor Tim Walls is he's still saying it. He's Hitler. He's Nazi. Don't listen to them and get in their faces.

2:27:54 Go ahead. I I'll give you the final thoughts and then we'll wrap up. Go ahead. You can respond to that.

2:27:59 What I was going to say is you guys have the guy who did this deportation and Tom Holman. You have the guy, right? And what we're see we didn't see masked men in the

2:28:10 There's but there's nobody recorded it. I know it. The only thing I would say is the only thing I would say is I understand that argument. The difference is when I'm calling from the White House and the president is a Democrat and I'm asking Minneapolis to cooperate and you're a Democrat, they do. When my and Tom Holman's there, Tom H. Homeman, he's my guy. My name is Barack Obama. Great. I'll take care and I'll give you what you want. Under Trump, when they call and these blue cities don't want to cooperate, whatever you want to call a sanctuary city, whatever reason, to make the president look bad, they're not working together as a team. So, it makes it harder for ICE to do its job because there's a lack of cooperation. And I understand why they do that. It's politics. They need the exposure. They need the new, you know, things to see.

2:28:57 Right now, data came up. You know what the data came up yesterday? MAGA people that voted for Trump. Do you know what percent of them? They uh uh uh Enton just did a new one. Rob, I don't I don't know if you saw this from yesterday. I wasn't even going to show this,

2:29:11 but they showed that MEGA right now people that voted for Trump, Is that it, Rob? Yes, sir.

2:29:17 It just went even higher. This is yesterday. Play the clip, Rob. Movement again. That's what we're talking about. Make America Great Again movement and it is as powerful as it has ever been because I want you to take a look here. GOP who view MAGA favorably. Two years ago when Donald Trump was running for term number two, it was 74%. Today, look at this. It's 78% of Republicans who the Make America Great Again movement favorably. So, we're talking about something that in my opinion will very much be able to outlast Donald Trump. Trump is in term number two. He can't run for a term number three. But the bottom line is this. What you brought into the GOP looks like it's going to last long. It's 11:40. By the way, Jared, we've enjoyed it. It's actually a lot of fun. And we're going to invite you more. Are you What do you What do you Are you around here?

2:30:06 I live in Parkland. Okay. Fantastic. This was great. This was great. No, we like this. We like the banter. We like the exchange. As long as you're respectful and you're respectful, uh, we enjoyed having you on. Uh, Rob, can we do me Can you do me a favor? Is Mateo here? Can we bring Mateo? Where's Mateo at? Can you check with Mateo if the truck is ready or no?

2:30:25 Is he here? Mateo, can you bring uh Where you at? Come on down. Come on down. Come on down. Okay,

2:30:31 come on down to town. So, not only is MAGA went from 74 to 78%. But, uh, somebody's approval rating went from 45 to 46%. And that 46% is officially Adam's new age.

2:30:49 Happy birthday, Adam. If you want to bring it up, we can sing for you on three. 1 2 3. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

2:31:02 Thank you. Happy birthday, dear Adam. You know, it's amazing when your age actually equals your IQ, man.

2:31:10 Thank you guys. There you go, buddy. I don't I don't appreciate this bad PR saying I'm 46. I'm 40ish, PBD. I'm still 40 but

2:31:18 thank you. you. I saw you give me a shout out on uh on Wednesday and uh I'm uh trying to make everybody proud and uh be pragmatic and thank you for coming on course

2:31:28 today. Thank you for having me be a part of this. Respect to PBD and to all the haters out there. I still love you and to all the people that love me.

2:31:36 Adam, good wish. Going to blow it out. What a good wish. Come on. I'm wishing for one thing. We know what it is.

2:31:42 Masleto, there you go. We appreciate you. Happy birthday, Rob. Pull up his Manct folks. If you want to wish Adam a happy birthday or send a bunch of messages of you not being happy with him, there's the QR code. Wish him a happy birthday on Man. With that being said, gang, we will do it again next week. God bless everybody. Have a great weekend. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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