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Insurrection Act, Trump's Nobel Peace Prize, Clintons Subpoena + Sinema Scandal w/ Ann Coulter | PBD

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Insurrection Act, Trump's Nobel Peace Prize, Clintons Subpoena + Sinema Scandal w/ Ann Coulter | PBD", an episode of PBD Podcast published January 16, 2026 (2 h 37 min, about 30,368 words). It mentions 36 people, works and ideas, including Miss Pat, Ann Coulter, Iran, Minnesota, Sophia Rob.

What this episode is about

The discussion focuses on several controversial political topics, including the Insurrection Act, Donald Trump's nomination for a Nobel Peace Prize, the Clinton subpoena, and allegations surrounding Senator Kyrsten Sinema. The conversation features insights from guest Ann Coulter and highlights the intertwining of current events and political scandals.

Key takeaways

  • Tom's focus should be revered; after all, selective hearing is an art perfected by many married men.
  • Buying Greenland for $700 billion: a purchase deal or a geopolitical ploy? Only time will reveal the intent.
  • In a bizarre twist, a bodyguard's lawsuit over MDMA use could outshine typical Hollywood gossip.
  • Iran's foreign minister might remember Brett Bear as the diplomat who questioned his vision—clearly, not all handshakes are friendly.
  • A mansion tax in California has baffled billionaires: how do we spend $1 billion yet help less than 1% with housing?

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 15:00: Minnesota, Venezuela, Ann Coulter, Renee Mlin Good
  2. – 30:00: Gestapo, Minnesota, Renee Mlin Good, General Dwight D. Eisenhower
  3. – 45:00: Sophia Rob, Caroline Leavitt, Kyrsten Sinema, MDMA
  4. – 1:00:00: Bret Baier, Miss Pat, Reza Pahlavi, Venezuela
  5. – 1:15:00: Venezuela, Reza Pahlavi
  6. – 1:30:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton
  7. – 1:45:00: People Magazine
  8. – 2:00:00: Venezuela, Bill and Hillary Clinton
  9. – 2:15:00: Venezuela, Nobel Peace Prize, Minnesota
  10. – 2:30:00: Bill and Hillary Clinton, Minnesota, Venezuela

Notable quotes from "Insurrection Act, Trump's Nobel Peace Prize, Clintons Subpoena + Sinema Scandal w/ Ann Coulter | PBD"

  • Trump insurrection. There's something's going on in there. We'll talk about that. Obviously, a lot's going on with Iran. Brett Bear did a phenomenal interview with the Iran…
    about Iran · at
  • Thank you, Pat. So as you guys know, I have the Faith Over fear line and this shirt that I'm wearing right now is our newest. faith over fear was more of how you live. This shirt is on how.
    about Miss Pat · at
  • Said, let's get right into it. I want to go into the top story. What could happen if Trump invokes the insurrection act in Minnesota? Okay, so let's go through this. Rob, I…
    about Minnesota · at
  • Wow. Tom, your thoughts on this? Well, you and I lived in Los Angeles at a time in 1992, which was also a time that the insurrection act was under the riots, Rodney King, and the city was.
    about Outdoor Tom · at
  • Administration of these programs have tried to go back and they recreate documents, change documents. Rob, when does he say 600 billion?
    about Sophia Rob · at
  • In this country. And as Tom has always pointed out, they're looking for their next George Floyd. And guess what? They found her and her name is Renee Good.
    about Renee Mlin Good · at
  • Story going Well, first I'll just say briefly why I don't care about this story, which is I'm sorry. I just don't care about the rest of the world right now. We were sort of in…
    about Ann Coulter · at
  • They are naming streets after him in Iran. You can pause it right there.
    about Reza Pahlavi · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Miss Pat — Person · Host · 2 mentions · first at
    Leads the episode, introduces topics, directs panelists, and frames debates (Minnesota/Insurrection Act, Iran, Sinema story).
  • Ann Coulter — Person · Main guest · 2 mentions · first at
    Primary returning guest; provides legal/historical arguments on federal authority (Insurrection Act precedents) and strong opinions on Iran and media narratives.
  • Sophia Rob — Person · Co-host / producer · 3 mentions · first at
    Runs clips, confirms details, and supports the host by pulling sources and video segments.
  • Outdoor Tom — Person · Panelist · 1 mention · first at
    Provides historical analogies (Rodney King, Portland policing) and strategic framing (spending loops, Iran escalation risk).
  • Reza Pahlavi — Person · Referenced opposition figure · 2 mentions · first at
    Discussed as a possible post-regime leader; panel debates his legitimacy, willingness to lead on the ground, and U.S. support calculus.
  • Renee Mlin Good — Person · Referenced individual · 3 mentions · first at
    Presented as a flashpoint figure in Minneapolis/ICE conflict; discussed as a potential 'martyr' narrative for midterms.
  • Caroline Leavitt — Person · Referenced spokesperson · 2 mentions · first at
    Praised for an aggressive press-room exchange defending ICE and attacking perceived media bias; also referenced re: Venezuela leader comment.
    Yeah, because you're a left-wing hack.
  • Kyrsten Sinema — Person · Referenced public figure · 2 mentions · first at
    Discussed in a sensational lawsuit alleging affair and campaign-fund misuse; also referenced for past legislative role blocking Biden agenda.
    Yeah. Well, there's another Democrat right now that left the Democratic party and became an independent who is a fan of her name is not Molly, but she's a fan of Molly. And there's this Rob told me the story this morning. I couldn't.
  • Bret Baier — Person · Referenced journalist · 3 mentions · first at
    Cited for a heated interview with Iran's foreign minister; used as an example of adversarial journalism.
    Going on in there. We'll talk about that. Obviously, a lot's going on with Iran. Brett Bear did a phenomenal interview with the Iran foreign minister and it got heated because…
  • General Dwight D. Eisenhower — Person · Historical precedent · 2 mentions · first at
    Cited as an example of a president sending troops to enforce federal law (Little Rock desegregation).
    Eisenhower sending them to Little Rock because to walk nine black school children into the school. Why? Because they were disobeying federal law. It was a Supreme Court ruling. You can't.
  • Ali Khamenei — Person · Referenced leader · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as Iran's supreme leader in discussion of regime stability and potential fall amid protests.
    That would be fine with me. Trump said it would be it was possible that the government of Iran supreme leader Ali Kam could fall amid the demonstrations though add it in truth…
  • Bill and Hillary Clinton — Person · Referenced politician · 10 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in connection with refusing to testify in an Epstein inquiry; used to contrast compliance expectations.
    Wonderful movie. Yeah, wonderful movie documentary. But facing corrupt threat, Clinton's refused to testify in Epstein's inquiry. Now, here's what's weird. Can you imagine John…
  • Stephen A. Smith — Person · Referenced commentator · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in a headline about calling out a politician; not developed further in the transcript segment provided.
    California billionaires rage at huge tax bill to fund illegal immigrant health subsidies. Stephen A. Smith calls out Jasmine Crockett for ducking him after she hurled racial…
  • Josh Hawley — Person · Referenced senator · 1 mention
    Mentioned for repeatedly questioning a witness; used as an example of persistence in hearings.

Companies & orgs

  • General Accounting Office (GAO) — Company · Referenced authority · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as estimating 3–600B annual fraud (~10% of spending), supporting the episode's fraud narrative.
    Perspective for American taxpayers, for American families, the GAO, the General Accounting Office, believes that there is somewhere between 3 and 600 billion of annual fraud, roughly 10% of government spending, 10%.
  • Al-Shabaab — Company · Referenced militant group · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as an unintended recipient in a fraud loop narrative tied to Minnesota program money.
    Consequence which the which the creators or the intentional closed eyes created was money went to al-Shabaab and then some of that money came back. So all of a sudden in closed…
  • Goldman Sachs — Company · Referenced institution · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned for predicting a surge in M&A mega-deals ('Blockbuster 2026'); not expanded in discussion.
    Goldman Sachs predicts Blockbuster 2026 for M&A mega deals. Vinnie's got an entire analysis on that. Yeah.
  • Vtbber.com — Company · Referenced website/store · 1 mention · first at
    Site where the 'Faith Over Fear' shirt is sold; part of the episode's promotional segment.
    Tamement is here and that's the back of the shirt right there. Here am I. Send me. It's live right now on vtbber.com.
  • General Dynamics — Company · Referenced defense contractor · 1 mention · first at
    Used in a 'money loop' argument about defense spending returning to contractors (Ukraine example).
    It comes right back to General Dynamics and Boeing and North and all them comes back. They then send equipment to Ukraine. Now, they have these billions of dollars. They say thank you through a.
  • Boeing — Company · Referenced defense/aerospace company · 1 mention · first at
    Included in the defense-spending 'loop' example alongside other contractors.
    It comes right back to General Dynamics and Boeing and North and all them comes back. They then send equipment to Ukraine. Now, they have these billions of dollars. They say thank you through a lobbyist. They say thank you through a.
  • North — Company · Ambiguous reference · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as 'North' among defense contractors; likely refers to Northrop Grumman but not stated explicitly.
    It comes right back to General Dynamics and Boeing and North and all them comes back. They then send equipment to Ukraine. Now, they have these billions of dollars. They say thank you through a.

Concepts & topics

  • Gestapo — Concept · Rhetorical comparison · 7 mentions · first at
    Central to the debate over ICE tactics and media framing; invoked by Joe Rogan and criticized by panelists as hyperbole.
    White House responds to Joe Rogan's warning that ICE behaviors Minneapolis resembles Hitler's Gestapo. Exodus of immigrants a hit for the US economy study says that's a barren story.
  • Isaiah — Concept · Religious reference · 2 mentions · first at
    Used to explain the 'Faith Over Fear' shirt message via Isaiah 6:8 ('Here am I. Send me').
    Our newest. faith over fear was more of how you live. This shirt is on how you stand. And so in Isaiah 6:8, Isaiah has a vision of God in his throne and he's asking, he wants…
  • MDMA — Concept · Supporting detail · 2 mentions · first at
    Used in the Sinema lawsuit story as alleged drug requested for a 'psychedelic experience'; also discussed historically in therapy contexts.
    And told him to bring the drug MDMA or Molly on a work trip so she could quote guide him through a psychedelic experience because he was suffering from PTSD. He's a former service. Guide him.
  • Molly — Concept · Supporting detail · 2 mentions · first at
    Named as the street term for MDMA in the Sinema lawsuit story and discussed in a therapy/party context.
    Lady who would fly in his her bodyguard and would give him Molly MDMA and the ex-wife of the bodyguard is suing. Am I saying it correctly, Rob? This sounds like a movie.
  • M&A — Concept · Business topic (brief) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned via Goldman Sachs prediction of a 2026 surge in mega-deals; not developed further.
    Goldman Sachs predicts Blockbuster 2026 for M&A mega deals. Vinnie's got an entire analysis on that. Yeah.
  • Exodus — Concept · Referenced concept · 1 mention · first at
    Used in a headline about immigrant exodus affecting the U.S. economy; dismissed as a 'barren story.'
    White House responds to Joe Rogan's warning that ICE behaviors Minneapolis resembles Hitler's Gestapo. Exodus of immigrants a hit for the US economy study says that's a barren story.

Places & events

  • Iran — Place · Core topic · 1 mention · first at
    Major foreign-policy segment: protests, regime violence, threats against Trump, and debate over U.S. involvement and leadership alternatives.
  • Minnesota — Place · Core topic · 14 mentions · first at
    Setting for the Insurrection Act discussion and ICE-related unrest; framed as federal vs state conflict and alleged fraud/coordination claims.
  • Venezuela — Place · Secondary topic · 25 mentions · first at
    Appears in Trump/OPEC discussion and as part of a broader geopolitical argument about oil and China.
    Trump brags about a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president ahead of meeting with opposition leader that came through I think yesterday.
  • Little Rock — Place · Historical precedent location · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced in Eisenhower example of federal troops enforcing civil rights against a governor's wishes.
    Eisenhower sending them to Little Rock because to walk nine black school children into the school. Why? Because they were disobeying federal law. It was a Supreme Court ruling. You can't.
  • Nobel Peace Prize — Event · Referenced event · 5 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in a claim that someone handed Trump a Nobel Peace Prize; not substantiated or expanded.
    Karina Machado, if I'm not mistaken, Rob, handed over the Nobel Peace Prize y to Trump and there was a picture about it, but Caroline Levit right afterwards said something very interesting. She said his opinion on her.
  • Blockbuster 2026 — Event · Forecasted business period · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a label for predicted surge in M&A mega-deals per Goldman Sachs.
    Goldman Sachs predicts Blockbuster 2026 for M&A mega deals. Vinnie's got an entire analysis on that. Yeah.

Media & podcasts

  • People Magazine — Media · Referenced outlet · 3 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as the outlet involved in coverage of the Dilbert cartoonist story and journalist reaction.
    Amazing. But did you see what the journalist how they Yes. from People magazine for sure. We have to cover that as well.
  • House of Cards — Media · Analogy / reference · 2 mentions · first at
    Used as a metaphor for political opportunism and narrative manipulation around Minnesota events.
    Pushing it. Tim Walls is like the Gestapo. This is one of those moments like in House of Cards where they sit there and they wait for a moment to happen and they capitalize.
  • Fury — Media · Illustrative example · 2 mentions
    Referenced to dramatize Isaiah 6:8 in a wartime sacrifice scene; supports the Faith Over Fear theme.

Full transcript with timestamps

seconds. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever sign. It's right here.

You are one of my All right, we got a special friend in the house. and Coulter. Great to have you back on.

Good to be here. Yes, great to have you back on. Thank you. This is the interim set. We're rebuilding the other set. So, next time we'll take you to the other set that we're building. And Tom for 20 years still doesn't know how to turn off his phone.

Get his phone away from his Can you do me a favor? No. No. Do me this favor, Rob. Please grab Tom's phone because he just watches the live the entire time, gets distracted. Can you please come and grab Tom's phone? Do me a favor and do that because it always makes noise. Grab it from him and set him aside. Go ahead and grab it from him and set it aside. Thank you. All right. Tom, for a second. What did I do 30 seconds before the show?

You said, "Hey, make sure your phone's off." No, he doesn't even listen. Freddy's recommended.

Tom has a rule of three. Here's Tom's rule of three. First time you say Tom, he's still here.

Second time you say Tom, in his brain he goes Tom. Tom. By the third time you say Tom, he hears it. Just a rule of threes. By that point, the phone's already rang seven times.

You know what that's called? That's called when you are maniacally focused, you hear no noise.

Make some noise for Tom for being focused on the signal. You know, it's also the myth of the married man where after 10 years of marriage, it's always, "I'm sorry I didn't hear you till the third time you called."

Great defense mechanism. Well, I'm sure Kim appreciates that. Guys, while this is going on, there's this uh apparently this story about a lady who would fly in his her bodyguard and would give him Molly MDMA and the ex-wife of the bodyguard is suing. Am I saying it correctly, Rob? This sounds like a movie.

Kirsten Cinema, which is a very interesting story for a second. No, no, this this is actually, you know, we'll talk about that.

Trump insurrection. There's something's going on in there. We'll talk about that. Obviously, a lot's going on with Iran. Uh Brett Bear did a phenomenal interview with the Iran foreign minister and it got heated because he was calling him out. So we'll get into that. This is like an cult all she wants to talk about is Iran. She said right before that is the most exciting story I want to talk about the number one story.

So we want to make sure Ann's like she wanted to go do nine stories on Iran. We said we can't do that many but we will do a couple. Iran issues sickening assassin assassination threat against uh Trump. Iranian protesters family says execution has been postponed which is good news. Uh Trump praises Iran's exiled royal as very nice but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change with him. Uh Trump brags about a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president ahead of meeting with opposition leader uh that came through I think yesterday.

Karina Machado, if I'm not mistaken, Rob, handed over the Nobel Peace Prize y to Trump and there was a picture about it, but uh Caroline Levit right afterwards said something very interesting. She said his opinion on her still hasn't changed as being the leader. I know Ann, you probably got some thoughts on that. We'll come to you with that. Trump says he supports Venezuela remaining in OPEC. Tom has some thoughts on that, which I don't know if it really means remaining in OPEC. Trump confirms leaker on Venezuela in jail. Very bad leaker is who he was.

Buying Greenland could cost as much as $700 billion. I don't know who's coming out with that number, but that's what NBC News is

saying. Josh Holly, you listen, Trump Tom's got the three rule, right? He asked this lady the same question 11 times and she still wouldn't answer. And allegedly she's a doctor, which at the end I think she says, "Call me by my, you know, call me doctor, you know. It reminded me of that scene paging doctor, you know, from the movie. I don't want to finish the rest, but

wonderful movie. Yeah, wonderful movie documentary. But facing corrupt threat, Clinton's refused to testify in Epstein's inquiry. Now, here's what's weird. Can you imagine John Stewart who gets in and says they should absolutely comply with Epstein subpoena and go testify. All right, so even John Stewart wants to see Clinton's get involved. White House responds to Joe Rogan's warning that ICE behaviors Minneapolis resembles Hitler's Gestapo. Exodus of immigrants a hit for the US economy study says that's a barren story.

Federman who is more and more becoming a very logical player says ICE should continue arrest and not slow down. That's Federman for you. Renee Good's former father-in-law doesn't blame ICE agent for shooting illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in Minneapolis after mercilessly ambushing Fed agent with snow shovel. This was an interesting story because two things were going on at the same time. We'll talk about that. Lefty LA poll polls tout mansion tax, but less than 1% of the billion has gone to affordable housing. Very, very good story. We'll get into that as well.

California billionaires rage at huge tax bill to fund illegal immigrant health subsidies. Stephen A. Smith calls out Jasmine Crockett for ducking him after she hurled racial insults at him, calling him Django and a couple other things which we'll get into that. And then I got a few other stories here

on what happened with Dilbert cartoonist final message. You guys saw the ex-wife what she said which was very emotional amazing. But did you see what the journalist how they

Yes. from People magazine for sure. We have to cover that as well. Goldman Sachs predicts Blockbuster 2026 for M&A mega deals. Vinnie's got an entire analysis on that. Yeah.

And then uh that's where we are. So with that being said, Vinnie's got something special he wants to share with you guys. And when Vinnie does this, it's a very, very special moment. So Vinnie, tell us what you've been working on.

Thank you, Pat. So as you guys know, I have the Faith Over fear uh line and this shirt that I'm wearing right now is our newest. Uh faith over fear was more of how you live. This shirt is on how you stand. And so in Isaiah 6:8, Isaiah has a vision of of God in his throne and he's asking, he wants somebody to step up to go to Israel to, you know, call people to God. They're resisting. They're rejecting him. And God says, "Whom whom shall I send and who will go for us?" And Isaiah, knowing the cost, just answers quick. He goes, "Here am I?

Send me." And there's actually a moment, Pat, in the movie Fury. Do you guys remember uh Shilab Buff? His name is Bible in the in the movie. Uh John Bernthal, Brad Pitt, they're in this tank division. The tank has been destroyed. Okay? They know that they're all going to die. They they can run, they could leave, but they choose to stay there and delay the enemy from advancing. And and and Shilabuff has that moment where he goes, "This is a righteous act, gentlemen." And he quotes uh the verse from Isaiah. He goes, "Here am I. Send me." So it's about answering the call even when it costs everything.

So that's what this shirt means today. It's speaking the word when it's unpopular and standing firm regardless of the consequences. And I have so the front of the shirt is Isaiah 68. Value tamement is here and that's the back of the shirt right there. Here am I. Send me. It's live right now on vtbber.com. Get you guys a shirt. And um yeah, that's proud of you, buddy.

By the way, last time Proud of you for reading the Torah. You're welcome. Yeah. Last time he did this, 10,000 faith over fear shirts were picked up. So, go pick yourself up a shirt and represent. All right, with that being said, let's get right into it. I want to go into the top story. What could happen if Trump invokes the insurrection act in Minnesota? Okay, so let's go through this. Rob, I think you got a couple clips on this. President Trump on Thursday tweeted this or Truth Social this. If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the insurrection act which many presidents have done before me and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great state. Thank you for your attention, Donald J. Trump. And how

do you feel about this? Of course, he should do this. And I don't even think he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act. It's funny how the New York Times avoids talking about the two most famous incidents of president sending troops against the wishes of a state governor. Eisenhower sending them to Little Rock because to walk nine black school children into the school. Why? Because they were disobeying federal law. It was a Supreme Court ruling. You can't discriminate. the governors, the mayors were saying, "We're going to keep discriminating." And so Eisenhower sends, you know, the 101st airborne to walk these nine black and then JFK did the same thing in Alabama directly against the governor. The governor called out his own national troops, George Wallace, famous name, that was to walk two students into University of Alabama. But we have nine sad black students, two sad um black students, and

of course the constitution and federal law being violated. And they go down in history as heroes. They're Minnesota is violating federal law. Immigration law is federal. The Supreme Court has held this 1 million times. They did it um I'll just say briefly because it it's recent. I mean, I've been alive in America for more than two weeks. Um, when Arizona passed that what everybody called the papers please law, you'll remember that. Oh, it's like Nazi Germany, which was upheld by the Supreme Court, at least that one provision. The rest of the law was overturned. All Arizona had said is we want to comply with the federal government. We're going to help. We aren't going to do anything that federal immigration law doesn't say, but we're going to help enforce federal immigration law. Obama was president and he sued saying, "I don't want to enforce federal immigration law." what the Supreme Court says

federal government wins. So absolutely he has constitutional authority to do this. And if you look at how the governor and the mayor are behaving, I mean just today I think the governor um Tim Walt um said um Minnesota is an island. Well, no, you're not an island from federal say he's an island.

Yes. That I mean that's like seceding from the Union. Of course he should send federal troops.

Wow. Tom, your thoughts on this? Well, you and I lived in Los Angeles at a time in 1992, which was also a time that the insurrection act was under the the riots, Rodney King, and the the city was being torn apart. The the police were overwhelmed. And when the police are overwhelmed, that's when the National Guard comes in. This is when, you look, a hurricane or an earthquake happens and our governors say, "Hey, we have a disaster area. I need you to declare me a disaster area so I can get federal funds." And by the way, can you please send relief people, troops, supplies, whatever it is? And so, and know we'll we'll ignore the failure of Hurricane Katrina, but in Los Angeles, we had Korean shopkeepers that were on top trying to protect their own um buildings, and it was invoked at that time appropriately. This is exactly when it should be invoked. And it's interesting that everybody's clinging to

the word insurrection in the media because that was a word they clung to on January 6 because they had to make it an insurrection because an insurrection is the operative term that was in the constitution that they wanted to pin on oh you've created an insurrection on Trump. So when you look at this I think not only is this appropriate it is not appropriate it's urgent. It's obligatory. It's not should Trump do it. Why is he waiting for any opinion to say this is out of control here and I have to protect the people of the state because it's the union. It's one of the states of the union. So I got to step in here.

I think I think he's late. I think this should have happened the day after the incident happened with be good whatever Renee good with the pin wearing all. But can we just take a step back like

martyr dour? Yeah, exactly. We're watching a state this is this is look at the timeline. a state that was just exposed for one of, if not the biggest fraud scandals in the history of the United States. Scott Besson came out and said 10% of our money is going to fraud, $600 billion a year. And is it just a coincidence that all this stuff is happening here that they've he they've energized these people? They by the way, this isn't happening organically. You you think these people with all the same signs, all the same movement, um Cash Patel came out yesterday and said, "If you think this is just organic, you're insane." And they're going to go after all of them.

600 billion. 600 billion. You have that clip. $600 billion a year. This is it right here.

Investigations. And the these men and women, the they are cool cats. They they can take apart a balance sheet and they can knock down a door and arrest someone. Like they go out on patrols, they can make arrests. It it's this very interesting hybrid force about 2500 of them and they led the charge here. So it was IRS CIS who the uncovered the initial fraud and the prosecutions. So, um, it's with that group, uh, with, uh, other groups at IRS and with the powers of the Treasury to track where the money came from, where it's going. We we saw this the very unsettling news yesterday that many people involved here with the administration of these programs have tried to go back and they recreate documents, change documents. Rob, when does he say 600 billion?

We're not We're not going to have that. We are going to hold people accountable. We're going to press this to the full extent possible. And like I said, I I think that this may just be, you know, it's a cold day outside, so this could be the tip of the iceberg uh here in Minnesota, but it's probably may not be as prevalent, but the dollars may be bigger and larger in other states. And just to put this in in perspective for for American taxpayers, for American families, the the GAO, the General Accounting Office, believes that there is somewhere between 3 and 600 billion of annual fraud, roughly 10% of government spending,

10% that disappears due to fraud. If we can recapture that, you can pause that right there. So, how do you not track that though?

How Yeah. help. How do you not track that and find out who it's from? Well, wasn't that Doge? And wasn't that And wasn't Doge's job supposed to go in find all this situation? And just really quick, Pat, if if you if you cuz this is where I'm coming from. Is it I'm putting two to two together. They just got exposed. So instead of going, "Yeah, guys, this is Face of Fire." They take this moment and because they were pushing it. Tim Walls is like the Gestapo. This This is one of those moments like in House of Cards where they sit there and they wait for a moment to happen and they capitalize.

This was their moment. Now it's hey, don't worry about the fraud. It's Trump is a Nazi. These people are Gestapo and I just hope that I know Cash Patel said he's going to be looking into it. Like I said last week, I don't care about basketball gambling. That's a whole different situation. This is six. This is hundreds of billions of dollars a year. This is what we care about. And this is all a show to distract everybody from what the real problem is. And that's the problem. They've imported all these people. They've they've they're work. They're not working, Pat. They're sitting there and they're scamming us and nobody's going to care about it. I'm I'm sorry.

It's a loop. And the loop we saw over Ukraine. Ukraine gets a bunch of money. But a lot of it's allocated for defense. It comes right back to General Dynamics and Boeing and North and all them comes back. They then send equipment to Ukraine. Now, they have these billions of dollars. They say thank you through a lobbyist. They say thank you through a pack. And now the money that Senator Blowhard voted to send to Ukraine has made a loop back and Senator Blowhard has got pack money and campaign money back in. And it is an internal cycle and that's how they keep stasis. That is their stability these cycles. And now all they've done in Minnesota is it wasn't a foreign war. It was a systemic fraud loop that they created. Except now the unintended consequence which the the which the creators or the or the intentional closed eyes created was money went to al-Shabaab and then some of that money came back. So all of a sudden in closed

enclosed rooms you got to believe that walls and others enclosed rooms is like crap.

Well let me do this before I want you to see this. Watch this US rep from Minnesota Angie Craig. Look what she says here and tell me if this is helping out. Go ahead, Rob.

Yes or no? Do you think u Congress should shut down the government over ICE and DHS funding uh to make a statement? Look, I'm not in uh the room with leadership, but what I can tell you what is happening in America, the path that we are traveling uh certainly reminds me of many of the images uh that we saw in the 1930s in Germany

and we should stand up to this law lawless administration and right now say something like that and get away with it. Right.

Adam, your thoughts. I missed the part in Germany where foreigners created fraud. I missed that part. Uh there was an extermination that was going on. First the criminals, then the gypsies, then the people in asylums, and then later the horror of the Holocaust. So I missed the part in Germany where there is a fraud loop.

Adam, so ridiculous. Well, this whole shenanigans comes down to one word for me, and that's midterms. So, we're in a perpetual election cycle in this country. And as Tom has always pointed out, they're looking for their next George Floyd. And guess what? They found her and her name is Renee Good. So, by the way, the heroes of the left are a little bit different than the heroes of the right. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk. Absolute hero. The heroes of the left are George Floyd, drug addict, wife beater, woman beater, and this woman who's a weaponized agent against ICE. So to me, the bigger story here is there may be a kernel of truth in all this, but then you have what I would call people just looking to act a fool. So if you remember after Rodney King 1992, okay, that guy got his ass whooped by the police. We get it. But now people in LA want to burn down their entire city as retribution. And I

remember after Katrina, uh, they started looting and then the great Greg Greg Geraldo, the comedian, goes, "No, I understand you want to get some stuff, but

you need a TV and some beer in the middle of a hurricane. Like, that seems a little inappropriate." And then the whole conversation about what the BLM riots did in Minnesota, you know, call back. The ironic thing, shout out to Alanis Morset, is Donald Trump was accused of doing a insurrection. Look at what's happening in all these cities. Last point, just to my friends on the left, on the right, enough with the Holocaust stuff. I was actually with a Holocaust survivor, 95year-old woman. I mean, and she's an amazing woman. She's the grandmother of my good friend Jeremy. And I said, "Hey, um, you know, they they they they're saying a lot of things are akin to the Holocaust these days. You know, this thing in ICE." And she goes, "Oh, yes. Um well I I was one of eight children. All my other siblings were murdered. Uh my entire family was put into Awitz concentration camp. My aunts, my uncles,

grandparents, they're all dead. So please forgive me if I protest not Nazi Germany. I sorry. like thank you for having some sort of uh rationale here. There's a big difference between

protesting and god forbid something get injured or killed whatever versus the intentional genocide of an entire population.

Well, but that's that's a great argument point you're making. But here's Joe Rogan talking about what it looks like on TV, what it's looking like to the average person that's watching it. Go ahead, Rob. You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be US citizens that just don't have their papers on them. Are we really going to be the the Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to?

And what do you think about what Joe said there? Um, I'm I'm just horrified that my party is so bereff of Hollywood celebrities that they will latch on to someone who was a janitor in a 1970s sitcom and make him into this hero. Um, I've always thought Joe Rogan is a [ __ ] If young men are looking for uh a masculine podcast, I would definitely recommend this one over that. I mean, his his claim to fame is he was first. So he gets inter interesting interview ease, but if the people he's talking to are interesting, he's not interesting.

You don't think Joel is interested? No. I think No. And I think what he just said was utterly. In fact, you've just I mean I think you just demolished what he said there. I think everybody has this idea. They've been saying this since 2015 about Trump. Oh, which reminds me, I make fun of it in my book in Trump We Trust. all of these op-eds in 1930s. We're back to this. And he's comparing this to the Gestapo. As I just pointed out earlier, the one part of of the Arizona law that was upheld by the Supreme Court was what liberals were all saying, "Oh, it's papers, please. It's papers." No, it's reasonable cause. We're looking for illegal aliens. Of course, you can consider accents, um ability to speak English, um what someone looks like.

That is part of the many things they are looking at. And the idea that they're pulling aside citizens, it's it's less than 1% of citizens who have even been briefly detained. It's less than 1% fraud as opposed to 10% fraud

in these these feed your families program. If you don't mind, I I actually have the numbers. So, in the past, great point. And in the last 12 months, uh, there have been 100, this is one year, 170 confirmed instances in which an American citizen was temporarily or improperly detained by ICE. Okay. In that same time frame, there have been approximately 622,000 forced deportations. Okay. So, and to your point, this puts ISIS's improper temporary detention rate at 0.027. So, in other words, ICE is doing a fantastic job and has a 99.973% success rate. Okay? And for when and I respect Joe, but for saying the Gestapo and stuff, it's like they've caught the Gestapo bug. You know why? Because during Obama, you never saw it. CNN never showed it. MSNBC never showed it.

Fox never nobody ever aired this stuff. Okay? And just to add on top of it, Trump wants to be number one, so he has to catch Obama, which got 5 million out. At this pace, he's not going to do it. The Department of Homeland Security has publicly claimed that 1.9 undocumented illegal immigrants have voluntarily self-epported. Okay. Since Trump took office, IS YOU IF YOU KNOW IT'S COMING, I know it's hard. You have to leave. Trump is enforcing the law. He didn't make the law.

Yeah. 1.9 million. You didn't say million. 1.9 million. I'm sorry. 1.9 million people were like, "You know what? THEY'RE COMING. LET ME LEAVE, get my stuff together, and potentially come back the right way. I don't see the problem because think about it. Trump's kicking ass, sorry for my language, on every OTHER ASPECT. THIS IS THE one thing they have to do. You know why? What is the Democrat uh Democratic party running on? What is Gavin Newsome was yesterday on um with Ben Shapiro? UH NO, HE HAS NOTHING. IT'S JUST LIE AFTER LIE after lie. This is all they run on is hatred for us. It's hatred for us.

Gestapo, Hitler, it's like it's enough. enough. Emotion and outrage are absent and they don't have a platform.

There's no platform. They have no policy. They have nothing. They have no leaders. They have nothing.

Well, I think this was a really bad take by Joe Rogan, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person. In fact, respectfully, he's the goat of podcasting. So, you said his claim to fame, he was first. Touche, the great Anne Coulter, he's still first. Remember when we were with Rogan and he goes, "Listen, uh, I'm number one in 92 countries." That's a big difference between be being number 92 in one country. So the challenge that Rogan will have is he's so good and he's so big. One bad take and this was a bad take. Respectfully Mr. Rogan, it's going to get amplified. Even though the White House responds, but overall he's a goat in the podcasting space. He's still number one and he's going to, you know, give him a little uh grace to make some mistakes. I would love to see him walk.

Let me tell you when when I had a guy came to my place, Tom, you'll remember this.

He sent me this offer. He says, "Please take this to the president, Tom Holman. They need to see this." He said, "For you to be able to deport 10 million people, here's what the budget's going to be. You need people that are going to be finding folks. You need trucks. You need this." He said, "It's going to take you 700." He gave a massive number of what it was going to take. Okay, great. When they started saying we're going to deport, we're going to, you know, get rid of all these illegal immigrants, I the first thing I went to is people that are emotional, that are just like regular people that are going to watch the content. You know how much great content is going to be produced to show how evil the current regime is? And they're taking them back to their country and separating them from their family and look how cold they are and look how this they are. So the average person, no matter who you are, who is

not studying the numbers, who's not looking into this closely, is going to look at that is going to say, "I cannot believe we're doing this. I can" and then you study history. And then you're explaining the history of insurrection, what Eisenhower did, what Kennedy did, Alabama, all this stuff. And then somebody goes looks at the history, it's like, "Wait a minute. We've been doing this for many, many times." And you have to do this to keep the American people safe. But I do believe because it's such an emotional situation that even the best and the brightest can fall for it and say this is not fair and millions will say that's what we need. We need more people like this that are empathetic. But the reality of it is how many people it's going to take to do the next 9/11. Go ahead and let's let's figure out right now this year what's coming up this year in June July. The

I heard it's our 250th birthday, baby. But hang on a second. World Cup is coming here. Oh, that too. Okay.

So, so let one massive event take place. Let let Munich You thought what happened with Munich? You know, let something like that happen here and then it's an illegal immigrant that came here, not from Mexico, not from Guatemala, not from El Salvador, but let's just say this person came from the Middle East. Boom. Boom. And then they do something. Then thousands of people die. Then we have to stop the World Cup. Then we have to stop the games. And then who's going to be looking at same thing? Oh, you know what? All that stuff you were doing on the streets, why didn't you do more of it?

Trump should have cleaned house better. You should have been more proactive. Oh, now you're saying that. And and the problem with I was in the insurance space for 25 years. When you sell life insurance,

the the the average person you talk to with life insurance and you say like I remember when I told my dad, I'm getting to the insurance space. He says, "How does this work?" I said, 'You pay $100 every month, but if you die, the insurance company will give you $250,000. He says, "You believe this America company pay you $250?" So I pay $100 three months, that's $300. A company called AIG is going to pay me $250,000. You're crazy if you believe it right?

The average person. But the reality of it is, you know, how many times we had a client that paid a couple premiums and they were dealing with $500,000 policy? So many times. So many times. You don't buy insurance because you're going to die tomorrow. You buy in case. We have to be very proactive with this. I'm glad he's doing it, but I also get you can fall for the emotional videos and sit there and say, "What an evil thing that we're doing. We don't have to do this." You know,

to expand on your point, um, yes, the media is very powerful and yes, a lot of people are, I think, falling for this. On the other hand, I don't quite believe the polls. I mean, the original polls from the New York Times and places like that were that the vast majority of Americans wanted Trump to deport all illegal aliens. New York Times published this like

60 plus percent of you if I remember correctly. All criminal or not. And and as as with um with life insurance, somebody dying, there are there are a lot of Molly Tibbits out there. There are a lot of families who have been not only had had children or relatives murdered or or killed in drunk driving accidents, but victims of 9/11. That was an immigration problem. Um who who who whose neighborhoods have been overtaken. Um whose pets are being eaten or whatever. Um

they're eating the dogs. And it goes out in concentric circles. It doesn't have to be you whose child whose child died. that whole neighborhood knows about that child. And I think there are a lot of Americans who are not as as vocal as some of those on the left who are looking at this and saying, "I don't care. I don't care. Just get them out. Um Biden brought in 20 million. We got to get them out."

Yeah. By the way, I want to show something here. Sure. Rob, can you do me a favor? Find a clip of Caroline Levit talking to this reporter.

Everybody has to watch this. Watch this clip here, folks. From the top row. Good. unfortunately and tragically killed.

Are you asking me my opinion because an ICE agent acted recklessly and killed unjustified?

Oh, okay. So, you're a biased reporter with a left-wing opinion. What do you want me to do?

Yeah, because you're a left-wing hack. You're not a reporter. You're posing in this room as a journalist. And it's so clear by the premise of your question and you and the people in the media who have such biases but fake like you're a journalist. You shouldn't even be sitting in that seat. But you're pretending like you're a journalist, but you're a left-wing activist. And the question that you just raised and your answer proves your bias. You should be reporting on the facts. You should be reporting on the cases. Do you have the numbers of how many American citizens were killed at the hands of illegal aliens who ICE is trying to remove from this country? I bet you don't. I bet you didn't even read up on those stories. I bet you never even read about Lake and Riley or Joselyn Nungre or all of the innocent Americans who were killed at the hands of illegal aliens in this country. and the brave men and women of

ICE are doing everything in their power to remove those heinous individuals and make our communities safer and shame on people like you in the media who have a crooked view and have a a view and pretend like you're a real honest journalist.

Why was Go ahead. Can I react to that? By the way, Caroline Leven is a straight verbal assassin gangster. And I mean that in the highest possible way. No, we one of us, I won't name names, was joking backstage. He's like, well, that's why I don't think women should be in power or leadership. Here's exhibit A that that gentleman didn't know what he's talking about because there's Anne Cters of the world and Caroline Levitz of the world that just dismiss all your preconceived notions. You know how when someone like has a mic drop thing and like they stop the video and sunglasses come in, they put a blunt in their mouth and it's like, "Yay, yay." And it's a gangster thing. She should have a hundred of those. Caroline Levit is a verbal gangster. Thank you for doing what you're doing.

By the way, this is what Fedman said about it. Rob, if you want to go to Federman, I'm gonna I'll make this the last clip and then we'll move on to the next story. This is this is uh Federman. Go ahead, Rob.

Border. And it was sky skyrocketing, you know, and it's like that's unsustainable. When you reach almost 300,000 people, that's unsustainable. And we need to, you know, as a Democrat, it shouldn't be unreasonable to want to secure our border and do it in that way. And now let's also let's also talk about ICE. Now, absolutely. Again, what happened in Minneapolis was absolutely tragic. Uh, and then now if you think now, this is from the Washington Post. You know, this is the latest statistics. These are people that ICE now are uh it's like now 67% have criminal charges, pending ones, or that that so that's more than twothirds, you know, the people. Now, now there are some people that aren't involved in any kinds of illegal things, you know, but so of me, I think two things can be true, you know, round up all the criminals, deport deport them.

They shouldn't have ever been here, and they definitely have to go. And now, I don't know, want to see more and more things happening in Minneapolis now, too. So, two things must be true. And I strongly reject the extreme on either side, you know, about this now. So, we must be true. And you know pretty pretty wild that he is becoming a voice of reason.

Isn't that crazy? It took one injury and he's back to normal. He's God bless him. But and and at the end of the day, this is what drives me crazy cuz Tom, I know you want to say something and he wants to move on.

When you have the mayor and the the governor and Ilhan Omar calling to action, get in their faces, do this, they're the and then something like this happens. How where is the accountability? You want to talk about insurrection act when when they said Donald Trump told them TO GO AND GO IN THERE AND WHAT? NO, this is what they're doing and there has to be accountability for you sending in the troops and then one of the troops gets killed and then it's like no no no I have we have nothing to do with it. What are you what were you going to say Tom?

What I was going to say is there's a case study on this if we want to really look at it and it's called Portland, Oregon and Portland, Oregon had all of these police officers defund the police. Defund the police. Police officers took early retirement. police officers went to other parts of the country being paid a partial pension on Portland because they retired and then they became police officers elsewhere. Today in Portland, Oregon, the voters are asking to refund, not pay back, but let's fund the police. There is a shortage of 200 officers in Portland, Oregon today. The people feel less safe. The people are concerned about it. You can see it in bipartisan polling. There's the case study. There's where this ends. This ends years later because we're now four years later in Portland, Oregon without adequate police and with an insecure populace that are looking around and saying, "What the

hell happened?" There's the case study. I just want to give a shout out to John Federman and all the other Democrats that have been supporting John Oh, none are zero. No one else in the Democratic party. So, one thing he said is so important. He goes, "Uh, two things can be true at once. So for John Federman, you can be a Democrat but also have common sense. Unfortunately, it starts and stops with John Feder.

Yeah. Well, I mean, there's another Democrat right now that left the Democratic party and became an independent who is a fan of uh uh her name is not Molly, but she's a fan of Molly. And there's this Rob Rob told me the story this morning. I couldn't believe it. So, you know, here's Kirsten Cinema. Rob, again, this could be this sounds like from a movie. Like this doesn't sound real. Rob, go ahead and play this clip.

Former US Senator Kirstston Cinema is being sued as a home wrecker for allegedly ruining a 14-year marriage. The lawsuit was filed in North Carolina by a woman named Heather Al. She's the now ex-wife of a former cinema bodyguard and Senate staffer. North Carolina is one of the few states that has a so-called home wrecker law and that allows people to sue a spouse's lover who may have played a role in a breakup of a marriage. Al claims Cinema had an affair with her husband during trips across the country and around the world and that Cinema used campaign funds to pay for all of it. The senator also accused of ethics violations for those same trips while she was still in office. Al is seeking more than $25,000 in damages. Her ex-husband Matthew Al was hired as a security guard for Cinema in 2022. He later joined her Senate staff. Court papers claimed Cinema sent encrypted messages to Al on the app

Signal that were of a romantic nature and told him to bring the drug MDMA or Molly on a work trip so she could quote guide him through a psychedelic experience because he was suffering from PTSD. He's a former service. Guide him.

Cinema was elected a lot of guidance. I guess that's the word now. Three years ago was entanglement. Today it's guide me.

Let me guide you to anyways. You can pause that right now. Okay. Okay. So, there was $75,000 from Cinema. Matthew and Heather, by the way, can we see what at least he look like? He looks like the body. I'd like to see I want to know what the bodyguard looks like and what the ex-wife looks like.

If you can pull that up. Arizona lawmaker, head of security, Matthew EML, uh uh after he retired from the army in 2022, according to

him. But that's him, man. And look at the way she's looking at him. Is that her behind her?

Yes, that's Rob. Is that Rob Garulo? What is going on? Is he GOT PANTS ON? ARE YOU IN an entangled Rob, is that really him?

Yes, sir. And then what does his wife look like? Ex-wife look like. Can we get a little bit of a cinema also paid for psychedelic treatment for a male who has struggled with post? Okay. Anyways, crazy story that just came out. Little weird story, but it's politics. You know, stuff like this happens. Um,

what what do you think about the story? Uh, Vinnie, where you at with this? I mean,

does it does it make you want to DM Kristen Cinema? You're like I mean I mean you know she's

sounds interesting maybe. Hey well she's bis she's bisexual and Matthew began to communicate more frequently to point Heather noticed him single messaging and then Senate including but listen I mean again this is politics and I know I brought up House of Cards recently. I want everybody out there I mean I'm being dead I know you you've seen it right Pat? You've seen House of Cards

of course only if you want to and I'm being dead serious. If you want to find out what Washington is like, politics, you know, sexual relations, gay, oh, go do me a favor. Kevin Spacy did a freaking phenomenal job and they freaking pull back the curtain on what Washington and these people are like. I'm not surprised. And using campaign financing,

this is shocking. You know, here you have Senator Sin with me. I mean, cinema cinema cinema

cinema cinema not um you know, drug sex didn't land, Tom. I just want you to know

otherwise someone makes But that one land I used to think drug, sex, rock and roll was like the soundtrack to the 60s. Now it's branches of government.

Yeah. Okay. Uh Ann, what do you care about the story? Um no, it's interesting. I guess she wasn't she wasn't a lesbian that long if she's going after this guy.

You got to respect that a little bit. I know. Yeah, totally. We got one back. Um

we'll have one back. That's always I love this home wrecker law. I think every state should consider having one. We we I I will say we don't know the truth because it's a legal filing. But to bring it under home wrecking and not just have have it come up generally in a in divorce papers in general, you can't believe divorce papers, but huh. Home wrecker law.

What do you think about home wrecking law? I don't know about home wrecking law, but I'll tell you what I think about Chris and Cinema. Just when I thought politicians have reached an all-time low, here's Chris and Cinema and brings it right back. She's my new favorite politician. And I'll tell you why. As someone that's born and raised in the nightlife scene of Miami, I've never met anybody that has ever done Molly, MDMA, marijuana, no drugs. Miami is a very clean thing. So

I will give her credit about something and her husband. When Joe Biden was trying to pass all these ridiculous laws,

there were two people that stood in his way, these independents. One was my favorite politician,

Joe Mansion. And then she was the second one. So Joe Mansion got a lot of credit. Yeah,

for basically stopping this agenda. Do you care about this? I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why I don't care about this.

It's the same thing with John Federman. As long as you're actually a policy person, I don't care if you have a brain injury, if you're wearing a hoodie everywhere you go. Do what's right for America. If she wants to do some bisexual law, I don't care about as long as you're a person that's doing good.

What do you think about the home wrecker law? So, what is the exact like you're wrecking? You know, you're ruining someone's marriage.

No, it's a free country. That's great. I love free country. It'll slow people like it'll be a lot. What is the exact law?

You're going to go ruin. It's a longstanding tort. It's been in existence through common law forever. It used to be called alienation of affection.

And I think it's fantastic officially called alienation of affection. allows a spouse to sue a third party for interfering with and causing the breakdown of their marriage seeking money. Adam, cuz you're probably going to get in trouble for this. Damaging for emotional harm, but it's only recognized in the US in a handful of states. But and Pat, just to go back to in

North Carolina, Mississippi, and Utah, you absolute BS. MDMA, obviously. Can I tell you why it's absolute BS? I would be quick.

So, you're going to put the uh guilt and blame on the third party who has no affiliation. What about the husband? What about the wife that cheat? But they know that you're married. That's the problem.

But if they know that you're married and they're coming, they get him in the divorce.

Do you know how many women are attracted to men with wedding rings? SHE'S SLIPPING MDMA IN HIS DRINK. BY THE WAY, DID YOU KNOW

SHE'S DRUGGING HIM? That's illegal. Well, in the 1970s doing it willingly early 1980s, therapists quietly used MDMA in guided sessions. And the goal was to help couples lower fear, feel empathy, talk honesty, and just grab glow sticks and just go for it.

Oh, news flash. Drugs make you a little bit looser. Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but guess what? If you Yeah. Hey, if you're a if you're a girl or a guy and you're out there trying to sleep with married people and you and they have kids and they have a family, you're going to ruin their lives. I like the law going, "Hey, you know, you know how many young women should be in jail right now?" Then

guess what? You Adam, it's a sin. You're going to ruin the freaking Yeah, you there's no discouraging young drunk women from from making bad decision.

Yes, you could get sued there. They don't care. Okay. So, I don't know. I think this

Listen, don't take that market away from Adam. I apologize. Listen, I'm a onewoman man these days, Tom. Go ahead Tom.

No, no, James. There was a very, you know, insert inappropriate joke. Go ahead. No, no no no.

Go ahead, Tom. Thank you for catching yourself. Make up. He's got to make up for the last joke.

Roger. James Bond is it's got all of the relationship um premises that you'd ever want to see, but the one that I love is Daniel Craig and she says says, "Am I not your type?" And and um and this joke is killing D. Go ahead.

And and he looks and she says, "Am I not your type?" Like he says, "Forceful?" No. SINGLE.

YEAH. BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE HE WAS CUZ HE WAS ONLY DATING only cuz he's he was messing with the married the bad guy. I think that's 042, right?

Give him another chance. Keep it going. Keep it going. You you you'll get one here,

guys. Put a we love you in the chat. Great. You're not If you want to hear more like listen for forget the the home recorder law, which fine. I'm I'm for the states that want to apply it. Makes sense. Have that in place. But for the all the other stuff with her, you know, it's politics. It's a nasty world. Um, you know, I I don't even think she's in the top 50 of the craziest stories that happens in politics. You remember that one clip where the one guy was where is he at Robbie? They were gay politicians. They were in there doing some stuff and a picture came out where a guy was sitting on a bent over.

This doesn't make it in the top 50 like some I I bet there's other guys that are saying

a decade ago they had second congressional hearing room. Yeah, that was 40. Oh, that was stat.

This this to me I'm talking about the senator spent a little bit in the psych ward.

This to me is the equivalent of term limits. So, you're gonna have congressmen and women say, "Yeah, yeah, let's let's pass laws to make sure I can't cheat or I have to leave office." No chance.

In this case, the psych word is pronounced. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. And we got to get to Iran as well. So, let's do a couple of itching for some. I'm just going to wait for that one because

that one we're going to get to here in a minute. But, let's get into um uh matter of fact, let's just get into Iran. Let's get into Iran. Let's get into Iran. Okay. So, a lot's been happening. A lot's been happening. But let's go to the Brett Bear interview, Rob, if you can. Brett Bearer is interviewing Iran's foreign minister, and they have multiple heated moments. Rob, I think we got three, four, five clips to show, but let's start off with the one where they right off the bat, Brett Bear calls him out, and he gets a little bit uncomfortable. And we'll watch the other ones. Uh, and again, these are claims. The numbers you hear confirmed is 2,000 plus. The numbers you hear, not confirmed, but a lot of uh publications are reporting right now is 12,500. A lot of people in the streets are saying the number is 20, 30, 40,000.

But let's just go with that. Here's Brett Bear questioning the foreign minister of Iran. Go ahead, Rob.

And you're suggesting that it's Israel and MSAD acting like Iranian forces shooting the Iranian people to make casualties to spur on the action of President Trump. I'm just saying there's a lot of people that don't believe that, Mr. Foreign Minister.

No, Musad. Msad has already confessed that they may be on the ground, sir, but as far as them killing hundreds and hundreds of people to make it look like you did, it does not appear in the video that we get out.

Okay, so that's one of them. Right now, go to the next one, Rob. And by the way, let let's stay on that since he's talking about Israel and Assad. Um Netanyahu's plane leaves Israel's airspace mysteriously on January 14th, which is two days ago. Now, this could be, you know, the the key word here is mysteriously can be used in anything, right? It can be used. Adam mysteriously left on time this morning from Miami to come to the podcast.

Mysteriously. Why did he mysteriously leave 15 minutes earlier, right? There could be a lot of different things.

Turns back. Netao plane leaves. Rob, do you have that clip of Netanyahu's plane leaving early from uh uh and and and what they were comparing it to is the last two times he left this way, there was an attack. One of them was on the nuclear air site, nuclear sites that they had. Yeah, this is him apparently leaving mysteriously. Where is he going to? So, they reported on this. This was all over the place. So, I'm going to come back to this story since we're on Israel and then I'm going to go back to the foreign minister. Netanyahu halts Trump from bombing Iran as Israel delivers vital intelligence on regime crackdown. And Tom, I want to come to you with this one here.

Uh Benjamin Netanyahu asked Donald Trump to not launch military strikes against Ayatollah's Islamic regime over fears Iran would retaliate against Israel. The Israel prime minister spoke to Trump on Wednesday, shortly before the president told report reporters that he had received information from very important sources on the other side that Iran had stopped executing anti-regime protesters. Netanyahu had previously spoken to JD Vans on Tuesday, the same day that White House officials met to discuss military options against Iran.

According to the New York Times, other Gulf nations, including Qatar, Saudi, Oman, and Egypt, have also implored the White House not to attack Iran over fears it could lead to regional conflict. Tom, thoughts on this story. So, there's two thoughts here that are that are flowing. One is that Netanyahu is in both sides of the president's ears. One side, he's in there, you know, you have to do this with Iran. Iran's the manipulator. This is what's going on. and he's sort of a uh a flattering bird on one shoulder trying to get Trump to move one way and on the other way as a genuinely Israeli intelligence was saying, "Hey, we're not fully ready for what they might do and they're so unstable. They might do more than than a a more rational uh less rebellious Iran would do right now because their backs are up against the wall and they're cornered in these other areas. Be careful." And then you have the other

Arab states saying, "Hang on, this could escalate." So I'm more with the second group that said that with a destabilized Iran, they might react more irrationally, more harshly than they would normally in a more stable, if you can use stable and Iran in the same sentence, a political um zone, if you will. And that everyone's out there, Pat, saying Iran's destabilized. you don't know what kind of crazy reaction they might have here. Maybe we don't want to do this right now. And on the other hand, you got people saying, "Oh, here you go again. Netanyahu is right in Trump's ear and he's kind of guiding him more than we all think." But I think it's I think it's the latter, Adam.

So, let me just get this straight. Brett Bayer, professional journalist, is pressing the foreign secretary. What is this exact title?

Abasaragi. Okay. foreign minister foreign minister and he's basically saying hey word on the street is you're murdering your own people

and he goes dot dot dot well it's Israel right and Brett Bear goes yeah I don't think so is that the basic premise of that conversation if you don't mind

okay got it well let's go with some facts here does Israel take out Iranian nuclear scientists you betcha they do Iran does Israel take out uh leaders and generals of Hamas and Hezbollah Beep beep. Now maybe your uh belt doesn't work and anything about that. You bet they do. What Israel or MSAD does not do is kill innocent people. Hey Iranian regime, that's your job, buddy. That's your job. Because the reality is, you know, they say that um sunlight is the best disinfectant. Do you remember when your good friend Resa Palvie told everybody uh a week ago 800 PM everybody get out there and protest and then do it at 8 p.m.? Do you remember this?

Do you know what happened by 8:30 p.m. They cut the internet and started murdering thousands of people

and there's videos. This is the number one story in the Wall Street Journal. A massacre happened the 24 hours that bloodied Iran. And by the way, this Wall Street Journal, pretty credible uh newspaper, they don't mention Israel MSAD once. They're looking at you Ayati for killing your own people. Now, if you want to scroll down just a little bit, Rob, you can show actual videos. There's a video of Iranian police murdering their own people. So, you know, they say like, "Don't believe uh your lion eyes." Well, what is this? So, to me, uh it's absolute buffoonery for anyone that that that believes something like this. Last point, Brett Bear, I know we had a great moment with him. I don't know if you negotiated his new contract. He deserves it.

That's a real journalist. Sidetrack. Hey, Tucker Carlson, maybe that's what you should do when you have the president of Iran on, not give him sort of a fluffy interview. That's how you hold these people's feet to the fire and represent the people of Iran, not your own Qatari interest. That's my opinion.

And where you at on this this specific story, because we got a few more Iran story going Well, first I'll just say briefly why I don't care about this story, which is I I'm sorry. I just don't care about the rest of the world right now. We we were sort of in the habit of this since 9/11, but what happens in Iran really doesn't affect this country. I love Venezuela. I wrote about it two weeks ago. This is our hemisphere. It does it does give us an opportunity to talk about the worst, you know, the masterful handling of Iran by Jimmy Carter. And that's always good to remind people of um that he created this mess.

But it just it it it doesn't matter to us. We need to get back to our country. Our country is in a lot of trouble. You know, why not Gambia? Why not Rwanda? I don't want to hear about other countries. Anyway, that's why

by the way, you know, you know what's crazy? I fully understand that argument from an American. I fully get it. And and and for me, a part of it is who should care more about uh who should care more about Iran and their regime than Israel? Us or Israel?

Israel. Israel closer. Their neighbors regional neighbor. Remember, Monroe, Donro is what? This is our hemisphere. Okay? This is our job. This is what we're going to be taking care of.

This affects us. This is our neighborhood. This is what I'm going to be taking care of. I'm fully with that. Having said that, on the opposite side on on and I want to get your thoughts on this as well

is for the for the Iranians around the world who they live in Europe, they live in Spain, they live in Paris, they live in Beverly Hills. Yeah. They live in Chicago, they live in New York, they're here, you know, they're living in Miami. These guys want to see this regime fall because they see what happened to their families in the last 47 years. In their opinion, nothing's happened because no US president has been wanting to get involved and do anything to them and intervene. And the last time they didn't intervene was with Jimmy Carter and the Sha and the Sha felli came in. Since then, it's been chaotic. So, and then you can go back and look at the history how back in the days Mosad he wins. He's there for two years and four months. Mhm.

He nationalizes the oil and then UK is like, "Wait a minute, you're not doing that. British Petroleum, OPEC, we're there. We're running all this stuff. You guys don't have the infrastructure to run. We came and build a whole thing in Abadan and we're doing this." No. So then they got rid of them. They brought the the Sha in and the Sha stays there for 37 years and a market opens up for everybody and the Middle East is at peace. So there was the the argument comes from that side that it created a lot of noise. And so this last week when you're talking about the uh Reza Palab asking the Iranians to go on the streets, this is an interview that he got criticized for heavily

because in this interview Nora I don't know what her last name is it Norah O'Donnell. Norah Nor O'Donnell from uh is is pointed question Rob if you want to play this clip. Go for it.

And as you are urging people to protest and go to the streets the death toll is rising in Iran. this violent crackdown continues just as it has in past attempted revolutions. I mean, is it responsible to be sending citizens in Iran to their deaths? Do you bear some responsibility?

As I said, as I said, as I said, this is a war and war has casualties. In fact, in order to preserve and protect and minimize the death toll, minimize innocent victims yet again be killed by this regime, action is needed. the the regime is going to try and brutalize it citizenry as it has always done. But we are in a fight for liberation.

I didn't ask the people to come to the streets to fight for against the regime because I wanted so they asked me to step in to help them and to be their voice on the outside world to do everything that we can so we make this uh uprising successful this time. And I think we have some serious uh leaders that understand what is necessary, that understand the ask of the Iranian people and are responding to that. I think President Trump is responding to the call that the Iranian people have. The Iranian people have heard his words.

They are naming streets after him in Iran. You can pause it right there. There's a difference. So, do when when President Trump and his team watches this, what do you think they say? Do they say, "This is the guy we can get behind and help Iran be free again, or do you think they say, I don't know if he has it or not?" I don't know. Do they look at this and say, "This shows strong leadership." Do they look at this and say, "This guy's going to be able to go and, you know, get win the people over and do that." I don't know. Here's what Trump did say. The president said uh u Trump praises Iran exile royal as very nice but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change bid. Okay, Rob, is this the Hugh Hewitt clip? We've seen this one already. So, I know this one here on on uh him saying this. If you want to play this one more time, you can go and play the clip. It's only 30 seconds.

Would you meet with Crown Prince Padlavi Padli who is the heir to the constitutional monarchy? He doesn't want to rule. He would be a, you know, a symbolic ruler like King Charles.

Well, I've watched him and he's seems like a nice person, but I'm not sure that it would be appropriate at this point to do that as president. I think that we should let everybody go out there and we see who emerges. I'm not sure necessarily that I would be. Now, this is an interview with Reuters on Wednesday that this is a different interview. In an Oval Office interview with Reuters, he said that while Raz Pali seems like a nice guy, Trump wasn't sure the Iranian population would accept the crown prince as the country's leader. The conversation happened moments after Trump appeared to pump the brakes on an American military intervention, something the president has been threatening for weeks as the Islamic regime has brutally cracked down on widespread protests. He seems very nice, but I don't know how he'd play within his own country, the president said of Pali. And we really aren't up to

that point yet. I don't know whether or not his country would accept his leadership and certainly if they would that would be fine with me. Trump said it would be it was possible that the government of Iran supreme leader Ali Kam could fall amid the demonstrations though add it in truth anti-regime can fall. Whether or not it falls or not it whether or not it falls or not it's going to be an interesting period of time. Trump added Palabi was born in Thran the son of the US back Sham Mohammed Zasha Palvi. who Iranians overthrew. The 65 year old Palvi who lives in DC suburbs has played a very uh uh uh vocal role in the protest from abroad, but on the ground there appears to be a little organized support for the country to be to again be ruled by the monarchy. So, I mean that that's what he he just just for me watching him speak and with all due respect and again he's not the guy. These people where my mom

and dad and my grandmother grandparents are from, where your whole family's from, they don't need a Zoom call leader. Okay? They need somebody that's going to be there with them on the ground. Okay? Resol Pales in Washington DC. He's been there for 47 years. And this isn't a knock on him. He has a life. He has kids. They're in school. They have jobs. They're whatever they're doing. This is a whole different situation. And by the way, just really fast on the Israel thing. We all know the arguments, the the debates we've gotten into about me and and Israel and criticizing all this stuff. Put that to the side. This is an organic revolution.

Enough of the Israel put people in the Just shut up with that noise. Okay? They're their leaders tweeting stuff that's saying that we will kill the president. Him getting shot in the head, we won't miss. Okay. They're murdering protesters. You know what I saw, Pat? I'm not going to show it. I I didn't want to send it to Rob. The IRGC are going into hospitals looking for people that were protesting that are injured and they're shooting them in the head. I saw that. And I saw the bodies in the body bags with the catheterss because they were in that room. Okay. And I'm tired. And and and makes a very very fair point. Who why do we care? We have enough problems going on. We have enough stuff over there. The only reason I say we have to care and is because if we let them put somebody else in that's worse than this guy or another guy that's Islamist or whatever, it's a problem that's going to get worse and get worse

and get worse. And I'm I'm not trying to say we have to be the police of the world, but these people are begging for help. And if you don't mind, Pat, this got me emotional. I'll probably not even be able to go through it. I want to play a phone call that was recorded of I think an American Iranian girl from here. She her mother finally calls her and gets a hold of her. She can't even speak freely because of the the the the the regime is surveilling them. This is just tell me this doesn't hurt you. Go ahead Rob.

Watch this. They're shooting people with machine guns. Don't cry. We're okay. I called you 15 times. We're okay.

Can you hear me? Don't cry. They've killed 12,000 people. They massacred all of we ran away. Can't talk on the phone. The phones are controlled. Say something. Tell me something. It's a very bad situation.

And she's crying. Stop. She's bing at this goes on. They've killed so many. She's in her 70s. She goes, she's weak. She can't do anything. So for people to sit there and try to blame everybody else that the people have done it organically, God bless them. We I hope for them. This is where we have to help. We have to help. And with all due respect, Reszaw, nice guy. You were the first one that called him a nice sweet guy. Trump always talks off the he doesn't BS. He doesn't sugarcoat. The moment he was asked, he goes, "Yeah, no, he's not the guy." He knows he's not the guy, Pat. He knows. you know your discussion of moade and sha the sha remind me of why I think we should not be getting involved and yes it would be great if the people overthrew and you know fixed it themselves I don't think they will I think most of the world is not fit for democracy the Mosed was a ridiculous clown he had to be taken out

he was taken out by the CIA and the CIA and the United States supported the shot everything was great then as long as we're installing puppets around the world things are going to go great. You don't want to let them vote and especially you don't want to let them vote now. I mean, I I don't think I really want to lose the Iranians or Persians as we call them in Beverly Hills. They're great. They're totally right-wing. That the most civilized, educated Iranians have left. And it's the same thing with Venezuela. It's the same thing with Cuba. If we're going to be installing puppet governments and holding them up and we have to protect them, I let's start with our hemisphere and see how it goes. And then maybe we can get back and and also let's also remember that this is all Jimmy Carter's fault.

Well, are you joking or you being serious? It is all Jimmy Carter. I agree. I I I fully agree with you.

Totally. It's and and uh what was his name? Richard Faulk at Princeton who promised everyone, don't worry, the people will vote for for Kani. It will be wonderful. The people's revolution. Yeah, there's there's your Princeton professor for you.

Yeah, I've I've seen that as Look, we've seen it in our government. When a nice guy that should be an ambassador or should be in a think tank becomes president, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, you have problems because you need leaders in times of crisis. And this guy happens to be the son of the prior leader. That doesn't make him that gives him proximity. That doesn't give him the presence, the power, the personality, and everything he needs to lead. And I think he appears to be a very nice man. He appears to be, you know, uh, ambassadorial. He's got certain presence, but is he ready to go into this beehive and to do what's necessary to lead it through it? I don't think so.

And we can make assessments like that because we saw it happen in our government. I was of age when Jimmy Carter, you know, basically on these human rights campaigns in the name of human rights ignored warning signs of destability in governments in the name of human rights and this mess started. We've seen it and this is not what the world needs. The world needs strength and clarity and leadership that is probably needs to be protected by the US government to get the job done what they need to do. Adam,

sir, I I don't care one way or another about Resa Palvi. I'm I'm I'm not on his team or not on his team, but I am on the side of the Iranian people, no doubt. So when he says, "This is a war. We have to do

this is not a war, homeboy, this is one side with guns and the other side with cell phones at best.

Massacre it's called." So that's not a war. That's number one. Number two, as much as I love our friend Anne Coulter, I do care about the other side of the world. And I'll tell you why I think this is as America first as it gets supporting the people of Iran because of China. I understand the Monroe doctrine and the doctrine,

but if Venezuela falls, which is looking very likely obviously. And if Iran falls, that helps America in monumental ways and destroys China because where do they get their oil? Venezuela and Iran. So these are moves that on the surface I get it. Listen, no more foreign wars. We want to be some sort of isolationist. Maybe be a little more pragmatic. But if these moves help bring down China, that would only help America. Last point is this. There's this whole thing of, you know, remember when Dave Smith, the famous famous comedian, hilarious just, you know, worldwide comedian said Iran is not a threat. Iran is not a threat.

Do you remember that tweet, Rob? Do you have that? Well, here's some evidence as to why I sent it to you in a text of why Iran is actually a threat. And we do need to pay attention to the country that has coined the phrase death to America. Do you have that tweet, Rob, that I sent it to you? So, they tried to kill Trump. They tried to kill Secretary Pompeo. They tried to kill um John Bolton. Not the worst thing. Not going to

By the way, everybody's texting that Twitter is down. Just so you know, that's why he can't pull it out. Yeah. Right now, Twitter is down. They there's evidence

and what did they just say about Trump? Next time we won't miss. They'll miss. Did he not say that?

But the point is they're threatening our president. And excuse me, we're we're one earlobe away from Kla Harris or weekend at Biden's being president. So these geopolitical conversations do have ramifications. And when someone who presents himself as the smartest person in the room said something like this, you tend to maybe this guy's got some credibility. And then what happens is our old friend Dave Smith runs into someone infinitely smarter than him named Coleman Hughes. And all of a sudden Dave's back to being a struggling comedian, not so much a pundit.

Yeah. So, by the way, if you want to go back to uh Is it showing Twitter's down rap?

Yes. Reports are showing that Twitter's down. Can you show that again? The report you had up.

Yes. Hang on one second. Which one is that? It's down down detector and it just spiked that.

Right there it is. Yeah. So, it is down. Okay. Reports are coming in, but it's saying it's not fully down. The services appear to be up and running, but as of right now, it's still down. Anyways, go go go back to the Khi part. Go back to the KI part on you just had it. Alle out as supreme leader a week ago 75%. Today down to pretty much you know 25 you know depending on by when September 1st, July 1st, April 1st 2026 down. Then if you go to Muhammad Zar Pali because you know this had to be up. Will the United States recognize Resa Palabi as a leader of Iran? A week ago 90%.

90% yes. Yes. Today 28% yes sir. May I understand this? Yeah. A week ago was 90% chance.

I'm showing you what Cali says. 97.6% chance was January 8th. Today is the 16th. So one week ago,

one week ago he went from 98% to 28%. So he's the Pierre Polyv of Iran Pierre Polv of Iran. And

by the way, the last three days, Adam, he spent time with our leaders in Washington.

So can can I ask you a very Did you hear what Tom%. What does Tom what did Tom?

He said that they spent lead time with our leaders in Washington. What does that mean though?

That means the more and more that people have been around him, they recognize he ain't that dude.

That's what Tom is trying to show. Yeah. Tom Cornaki. Go ahead, Adam. Why do you think that is, Pat? Sincerely,

the more you spend time around, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

Fell before that. Yeah. Let Let me Let me ask you a question, though. Here's here's the question. Let's just say, do do you think for Iran to go through their revolution, a country that any day anybody complains about the Second Amendment, if Iran had Second Amendment, none of this stuff is happening right now, by the way. If Iran had second amendment, if the Iranian people could defend themselves, you think the cops going out there with a shotgun shooting people for no. LIKE YOU REALIZE in America something like that, you know who would be the first one coming out?

Mongols, Hell's Angels, biker gangs. They're going to come out. So, what are you doing? Do you remember that one time? I think I think the the George Floyd, if I'm not mistaken, riots was going on and they decided to go to Huntington Beach, if I'm not mistaken, in in LA. That is correct. the biker gangs rolled up and said, "Come on, come through us." And they're like, "Change of plans. We're leaving this place. We're going to go to a different place."

Second amendment in America. Phenomenal. Phen every single day. You should be thankful the fact that we have that in America. This robman all of a sudden like, "No, you're not going to come through here. Forget about the cops." The biker folks showed up and like, "Yeah, we'll skip today's deal of doing anything." Well, yes, guys. So, but let me let me go back to this. to have a revolution happen in a country like Iran against a regime like IRGC Islamic revolutionary guard in a in a society where it's like the supreme leader the phrase they use their supreme leader their sup and American journalists say their supreme leader their supreme leader what's his name is Kame it's not your supreme leader is somebody else that's their supreme leader right what do you think you're going to need to do if America as an outsider.

Actually, say you are part of Trump's adviserss. Mhm. And somebody brings a guy in who's sitting right in front of us right now interviewing to be the leader of Iran to go through the transition. What five questions do you have for him if you want to support him?

What five are you moving to Iran to Are you willing to move to Iran? So, let's just say that's one. And he says, "Of course, but he's been here for 40 years.

Are you willing to put your life on the line and die for this cause?" Is that really the real question? What percentage of people support you?

Say that again. What percentage of people support you? What percentage of He says to you

in the population, not of Beverly Hills. He says to you 80% in Iran. Mhm. I don't believe. Okay. So, you don't believe it. What's your next question?

Do you think Iran wants a monarchy or a democracy? Let's let the people decide cuz that's the answer he's given to everybody. That's not our business. That's the people's business.

Well, the like if I was them, I I want leverage and be like, "Hey, listen. and you're going to listen to what we say.

What other questions do you have? Like what is the most important question that you have?

What makes you a great leader? Okay. So, so let me let me say before he walked in, we're sitting together here and here's what we're saying. We made a decision. Hey guys, if we like this guy, at what level do we want to intervene? Okay, you're JD Vance. You say, listen, no more than what we did with Venezuela.

I don't want troops on the ground staying there. Iraq 20 years, $3 trillion. Marco Rubio says, "Well, it depends on what we're going to get in return." Okay, because let's just say Marco Rubio's a little bit more of a neocon and he's open to the idea and he's having a conversation. But let's just say the five of us, that's an odd number, which is good. Three, two, three people going to say, "Okay, we say look, if it's a little bit of intervention,

I'm open to it. But full on, I want to interview this guy to see if we can get the job done with little bit of intervention or do we need to do everything for him?" So, if that's the mindset that we're going in with, what's the most important question to ask? Whose support does he need? Whose support does he need? Not just the people. Who else's support do you need?

The military. The military. Right. So, I'm going to ask you and say, okay, how many people from the military are flipping and supporting you? Show me.

How many of them? So, you know what I would do? If if you're running like if you really really really want to do something why don't we see how many Iranian military have turned in to come support of you

and by the way you know how it starts by pockets you get tabris you get you know abadan you get small little p you don't go straight to tan you start from the outside and you come

fully inside because there are a lot of people that are on the verge but they don't want to be the first you ever seen that one TEDex TED talks where the guy shows and says here's the guy that just goes out and he starts dancing like this And it's the most embarrassing dance. Have you seen this video? You ever seen this video or no? Where the guy's just dancing like a horrible dancing and everyone's looking at him, but he goes for 5 seconds and they're thinking he's going to stop. He goes for 20 seconds and they're thinking he's going to stop. 30 seconds later, another guy goes in and he starts, he doesn't know what he's doing. He's just kind of going like this. He says 20 seconds after the second guy, couple hundred people are dancing with him. And he says the most important person is the first true believer in you that is willing to step up.

Who has stood up from the military unit and said we're all with Raza Palvi? Who? Nobody.

That's the question I want to be asking Tom. I'm going to ask the question, has the military from Iran flipped to support this man? What else would you ask him?

Because I think that's really how this works. You know, yesterday, two days ago, we're interviewing a guy that wants to be the general manager of the David Consulting, and we have some finalists, but he's the final guy. He interviews with Tom Paul. He interviews with Casey, a couple other people he interviews with, but then he comes with me and R.J. and then we go to dinner with them to introduce him to the BDC guys. BDC guys are interviewing with them. What do you think we're asking afterwards? What questions are you asking?

How do you guys feel? Do you believe who he says he is? Is he qualified for the job? Do you think he's going to be long-term? There's a bunch of stuff I want.

So, to me, if this all of a sudden happened to the Iranian people who are saying Trump is Jimmy Carter 2.0, Maybe instead of saying is Trump Jimmy Carter 2.0, Jimmy Carter's case was there was already a stable guy in Iran named Muhammad Raza Sha Palabi that had figured everything out. This was a guy that was not afraid of calling people out. He stood his ground. He gave his opinion. In this scenario, this is not the same case as Jimmy Carter 2.0 because Iran doesn't have a leader. During Carter, there was a definite leader called Muhammad Hazar Sha Palvi. Right now, there's not a definite leader. If there was, they would have easily said yes. So, I said this a week ago, the God forbid you call out anything with Resa Pal's community.

I have no idea. By the way, for a guy who's a massive fan of Resa Palabi, okay, the family, for a guy that collects everything I can get my hands, if you want to get me a nice gift, get me an old coin. gold of Razar Palvi. Get me old magazines of Muhammad Resa Palabi. I have all those collections of my safe in different places that I that I hold on to. But God forbid you say something and criticize him even just a little bit. They shiver. How dare you?

Resa to them is not a candidate to them. It's their Jesus. Yes, it's their Jesus. It's their prophet Muhammad. God forbid you criticize and say anything about him. Now, by the way, the one thing on the opposite side, so to me, I said this last week about Muhammad Sha Pal. I said, "If you don't pull it off, you're done." I said this a week ago and a community lost their [ __ ] And they came, who the hell do you think you are? All this other stuff. Week, here's where you are. So, guess what? Does it mean it's done? It's very close to being done. Very close to being done. Why? Because somebody couldn't close a deal. Cuz somebody couldn't close a deal. Guess what? Diplomacy. You know what? Well, no. It's Elon Musk's fault. It's Trump's fault. It's your fault. No, it's called be a flipping diplomat. It's called go build those relationship. It's called sit back down and realize how terrible you are. I'll

build them relationships with individuals and then go I have to talk to those people. You know who Trump called two days ago about the 10% credit card interest rate?

She was shell shocked. Elizabeth Warren. Oh yeah, that's right. Elizabeth Warren's being honest. pick up the phone.

Elizabeth Warren is being interviewed and they're saying, "Did did Trump really call you?"

"Yes." "How did you feel about it?" I'm not going to lie. I was very surprised that he called me and ask me, "What do you think about the 10%." What is that called?

That's called diplomacy. So, you know, I I I I hope you guys hold him accountable because he does play very important role. And to Resa Palab's credit, he did an interview yesterday, which by the way, it's the best one he's done. Uh uh it's the best one he's done. I'm trying to see who it was with. I watched it. He did a phenomenal job with this interview. I liked his resolve. I liked how he handled himself in this interview. I wish I could find it. There's so many of them he's doing right now, but it was probably the best one that he did. And I'm not going to stop challenging him. I'd like to host a uh podcast with bring in different people from the Iranian side to talk to a bunch of different guys that have different opinions and we'll be doing that here soon. But look to the Iranian people breaks my heart because my only first cousin in the world, my only first cousin and I only have one first cousin.

My dad had two brothers and a sister. Between the three, they had zero kids and they all live past their 60s. It's not like they didn't have a chance. So, two brothers and a sister, zero kids. So, I got no cousins from my uh dad's side. My mom's side, she only had one sibling. Him and I were very close back in the days, Robert. And he has one son. I only have one first cousin. You know where my one first cousin lives? In Iran. That's where he's at. My only first cousin lives in Iran.

So, we have family there. We have friends there. We have a lot of people there. And I really wanted to see this being able to be pulled off. But, uh, unfortunately, this is it. the more and more this dies down, you know, and it gets quieter and quieter and the momentum goes away, people, families have to go take their kids back and go to school and go back to their jobs and they realize they had the greatest twoe run. They got so close. Does that mean Trump's not going to do an attack like he did with Solmani? No. Does that mean people can't get killed? Remember how Israel works? Here's how Israel works.

the Israel is also and Trump is also very much of a let's make a story up. Netanyahu told them that you shouldn't attack and all this other stuff. Oh my god, Netanyahu controls Trump. Three days later, boom, seven leaders in Iran get killed.

Yeah. To just also appreciate the president's unpredictability of what he's capable of doing. But number one rule when that man came into interview with Witoff, interview with Lindsey Graham and he's leaving, what set of questions you're asking? Are these guys walking out calling Trump saying, "I think he's the guy. Let's roll. He's going to get it done. You need to meet with him." That didn't happen. Why not? Because if you would have met with them, what would you have told me, Tom, if you were impressed with a candidate?

Say you work for President Trump. Say you met with Resa Palvi, say you were blown away, say your name is Whit. What advice would you give me if I'm Trump? I think we can support this guy because he can pull the coalition together and he's got the support of the military. He'll need some of our intervention, some of our support, but I think he's his arms are long enough to pull the coalition together.

If you believed in him, how quickly would you say I should meet with him? Uh, Mr. President, I think we should meet with him immediately. Now that he's met with all of us and we've got our our stuff in order, I think we need to make the plan.

Does that sound logical? Yes. And it didn't happen. So why it didn't happen? By the way, I'll I'll change the names and listen to this there. You know who General Ver is? Very famous man in history. General Ver was the evil general henchman for Ferdinand Marcos. And General Ver pledged that he would support Marcos. So that's when the CIA said, "Okay, Marcos is our guy." Because for 20 years, General Ver supported Marcos uh in the Philippines. And that's what kept the peace in the Philippines. And the only reason that we selected Ferdinand Marcos the CIA was because he had the support of General Affair. So this has happened before in history where the for the uh the US make sure that that leader can carry the coalition

and that's exactly what we have here and he can't final thoughts. I just want to thank you for your breakdown because it helped me come to this conclusion. Reza Palvie is the opposite of Donald Trump. Let me explain. You talk about being battle tested. We have a one woman on this panel today who predicted in 2015 Donald Trump would be the president of the United States. But she did that when it was inconvenient and he was 1% chance. But what did Trump do? Get up on that stage and debate how many people 20 different people. Boom. Jeb Bush. Boom.

Marco Rubio. Boom. Boom. Scott Walker. Bing bing bing. And he won it. Because in America, you know, we've been so focused on DEI. We still don't forget this is still a meritocracy. And Trump showed up and said, "I'm that dude." And he took out Hillary Clinton. The final point is here. Just because your father was great doesn't mean that you're going to be great. Is Michael Jordan's son in the NBA? No. Is Magic Johnson's son in the NBA? No. He's wearing a dress somewhere. Okay. Did Bill Clinton's wife become president? No. Is Barack Obama's wife wife becoming president? No. So there's a meritocracy is what America's founded on. This monarchy Iran, if that's what you're looking for, but America, that's not what we believe in.

Yeah. If you have any thoughts, I'll give it to you. If not, we'll go to the next story.

Let's go to the next story. She's dying to talk more about. All right, sounds good. Fair enough. All right, let's go to the next story. So, this story I want to get to is uh uh cartoonist Dilbert uh uh final message before his death to his ex-wife. By the way, have you guys seen this? To his ex-wife. And by the way, while this happened, okay, should I show what journalist Victoria Ed says or should I say that afterwards? Let's play the clip first, Rob. Play the clip of what the ex-wife is saying with a letter that he wrote. Rob, if you got it, pull it up.

Very emotional. I I had to retweet it. I got this from um Danny Canel. Send it to me.

Uh Danny Canal sent it to me. Shout out to Danny. Watch this clip here. Go for it. Everyone, unfortunately, this isn't good news. Of course, he waited till just before the show started, but he's not with us right anymore. I'm going to try to get through this. He has a final message that he wanted to say, so I'm going to try to read it. Trying to be strong. If you are reading this, things did not go well for me. I have a few things to say before I go. My body failed before my brain. I am of sound mind as I write this January 1st, 2026.

If you wonder about any of my choices for my estate or anything else, please know I'm free of any reason or inappropriate influence of any sort. I promise. Next, many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the riskreward calculation for doing so looks so attractive to me. So, here I go.

Logical guy. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Wow. And look forward to spending an eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quite quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven. I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry. With your permission, I'd like to explain my life. For the first part of my life, I was focused on making myself a worthy husband and parent as I find as a way to find meaning. That worked, but marriages don't always last forever.

Pause it right there. You can pause it right there. And it goes on. It's a six-inute clip. If you haven't seen it, I recommend you watching it. So, in the letter, he accepts Jesus Christ. His ex-wife is reading it very sentimental. And then you get this story. Journalist Victoria Ed faces backlash over Scott Adams obituarily disgraceful hit piece. Scott Adams disgraced Dilbert creator dies at 68 years old. Okay. Vinnie, I'm going to come to you with this story because I know you got a lot of thoughts on this.

Yeah. How do you react to this, Vinnie? Well, I mean, a, you know, God rest his soul. Um I think you know a couple people saw the I'm saying they when she read the letter very emotional if you weren't really really paying attention um you would see you know this was somebody and I I knew me and you were going to get into this conversation. So Adam he's he's this is his last letter as he's dying and he's saying and I'll read it quick next. Many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer but I have to admit the risk reward calculation for doing so looks attractive. So here I go. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I'm f u and I look forward to spending my uh eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven. I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry. As

funny and as cool as it it seems, it's kind of making a mockery of Christianity because you know when we talked about Adam, you always ask the question, Vinnie, you mean a person could be a murderer and in the last moment he says, I'm sorry, and he goes to heaven. The same thing with the the murderers that was on the cross with Jesus, but that one of them actually asked for forgiveness and was truly meant it and got Jesus said that you're going to be with me in paradise. This to me is like a well lastditch effort. Well, if it's true, then let's do it. I I think I hope to God, Adam, that after this funny moment that he had, he really did have a moment where he seriously stopped and said Jesus or somebody spoke to him, a pastor, a priest, and actually gave it to him. And actually he was honest because this right here is what you talk about that insurance policy. Oh, I'm gonna die. Well, all right. I believe in

Jesus. That's not how it works. That's not how it works in this situation. I will. However, Patrick, there was a video that he made that hit me so hard. I sent it to Rob and even Rob. Rob, you showed this to your son.

Yeah, I sent it to him. It is such a It is such an awesome thing, guys. It's about laziness. I I don't know if you have you seen this. It's about laziness and it's he says that it's the habit of thinking about the effort instead of thinking about the outcome. I have Rob playing it at 1.5 so it's a little bit fast but look at how look at how amazing this is. This completely changed my thinking. Go ahead Rob.

What if what if laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort instead of thinking about the payoff? I'm going to say it again. Get a few more heads to explode. What if laziness is oh

is it on our Twitter or if it is it's going to keep soft. Okay. So he says you can reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about like for instance the delicious food that uh you're going to eat instead of like the effort that it takes to do it like and he said like with kids he goes and why do people have three or four kids if people sat there and they're like oh man having the kid is the worst. You always hear them saying, "I'm going to have more kids." Because it's you're you're focusing on the the in between instead of what you're going to is this Rob

the payoff. Yeah, the payoff. Which is actually pretty freaking awesome. So, that's a great thing that he had. Bob, you going to play it?

I think we got to get a few more heads to explode. What if laziness is nothing but a habit of thinking about the effort instead of thinking about the outcome? What if you could reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about the uh let's say the delicious food that you would like to enjoy instead of how long it would take you to get up and go get it? Uh but the but the real question is if you were to test this at home and try to see if you can think more about the good outcome and less about the work,

would you get it done? Why is it that people have a second child? Yeah. You know, why does a woman who goes through this awful, awful child birth have a second child?

Don't they always say the same thing? If I remembered how bad this was, I wouldn't do it again. Right? So the the not thinking about the effort is vital to actually the survival of humanity. If we focused on how hard it was to have a baby, you just wouldn't do it or you do you do too little of it. But if you focus on how awesome it would be to have a family, well, there you go. You're going to go through the pain because you've already you've already committed. Am I ambitious or do I simply have a thinking habit which produces dopamine because I'm thinking about the positive outcome. And is the dopamine the thing that gets me up and moving? And when you're observing me, you say, "How the hell do you get so much done?" And how do I do it? I think it's just this. I think it's just this. When I think of all the things I do, I think about them in terms of their benefits.

And and pal and I think on in regard to the People magazine girl, the fact that OJ Simpson died. Okay. OJ Simpson, a murderer, died. And their their headline was OJ Simpson dead at 76 from cancer. Family announces. That's it right there. But when Scott Adams dies because he was, you know, a Trump supporter, look what they write. Scott Adams, disgraced Dilbert creator dies at 68. A murderer gets the nice one, but a guy that liked Trump gets a disgrace. This is the day that he died. They write that. So, it just goes to show you People magazine.

Where are you at with the story at? Um, well, Vinnie just made me feel very guilty because I meant to send Scott Adams um uh my my minister redeemer.com. It would convince anyone because I sort of agree with you. I hope he really believed it, but just taking Pascal's wager that isn't going to do it. Um, and I know Tim Keller would have convinced him and suddenly he was dead and I hadn't sent it yet. So, I'm feeling very bad about that. Um, this reminds me, I was just thinking about this the other day, which is why, oh my gosh, Twitter being down is so much more important to me than Iran. Um, Twitter is so important for the truth getting out there, including on immigration, like you were talking about. Um, and you all the MSM is showing us is, oh, the poor illegal immigrant. Um, whoa, those aren't the ones you see on those aren't the videos you see on Twitter. And it wasn't just that one. I mean, there was

some horrible terrorist that where the headline was, you know, honored honored Islamic scholar dah.

Oh, I just I just sent that to Rob. Okay. Yeah. Can I talk about that? Yes. But but you see, but that those weren't the only ones. The contrast all over Twitter. So, thank God for Twitter. Um, and I had I interviewed Scott Adams on on my Substack and and he he was really interesting and it was a lot of fun and and the racist thing was unfair. It was I think a clumsy joke in my opinion, but if you'll remember what it was, there was just this poll that turned out to be a BS poll saying that um a majority of black people said that it's um what it's not okay to be white. So, it was a BS poll, but he read it, he believed it. He says, "Therefore, black people are racist and therefore we should stay the hell away from black people." Um, it's one of those things where you can't

you some things you just should stay away from making jokes about. So, it was a clumsy joke, but oh my gosh, his publisher canled him. His syndicate, my former syndicate canceled him. He got cancelled every place. And to be putting that in the in the obituaries Oh, come on. Oh, here it is. There it

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. That that's why you always need to check the source and say is this a credible source, a biased source, are they far left, are they far right, which one is it? So the cartoonist from Dilbert dies and he's this bad dude and this controversial guy. But the auster leader of ISIS, you know, jihad al Baghdaddy, whatever his name was, what a guy. So just check your source. There it is. Abu al-Bakar al-Baghdadi the auster religious scholar at the helm of Islamic state dies at 48. What a guy it's

cartoonist from Dilbert uh Mr. Adams over here. Disgraced died suddenly at 48. The other thing I'll say is racist is the most overused term. I don't know. I'm not going to judge him right now.

Uh he does make a great point about the kids. You know, you have one kid and you go back for two. I was hanging out with a lady last night, a friend. She has 11 kids.

Damn. And she's trying to convince MY GIRL LIKE, "GO FOR IT. COME ON. I'M GOING TO DO NUMBER 12 IF YOU DO number one." I'm like, "This lady just wants a baker or dozen. I don't know if she's looking for a football team. 11 kids." The last point is this. We're on the same page here. This is my concern. And he's a good guy. And I talk about bad people at the last second. Hail Mary accepting Jesus. This to me said was a riskreward calculation. That's not how it works. not pure 100% heart%.

So I've been Jewish my whole life and it's on my deathbed it's like Jesus. That's not how it works.

Because you know who knows your heart? Jesus. He knows. And there's no way to get to the father except through the son. Okay. And just to go back really really fast. Do you guys remember when Kasam Solommani was killed? New York Times published an op-ed. They called him a freedom fighter. CNN, NPR, they called him hero to supporters and a popular figure in Iran. It's a freaking joke. It is a joke. in. I didn't know that about you. That's so that's so I understand the the feeling that you didn't message him, but just hoping that we could pray that he did have a moment where maybe the Holy Spirit was like, "Hey, you have this opportunity." And I just I hope and I pray that he came to it right there cuz the a word in a letter that's not going to come.

And Adam and made the point about Pascal's wager. hope that none of your friends, you know, are simply making Pascal's wager and they think it's like this little fire alarm at the last moment that it's a genuine and um I have deep respect for Tim Keller and I believe that anybody that would encounter at a moment facing their own mortality, Tim's writings, I believe that they they would be compelled. I think that's what you were saying. I I agree with that. Tim's tremendous, you know, and I I just think the dialogue has become so heated and so nasty, you know. Um, as I've often said, once upon a time, I used to think that um, liberals think I'm evil when I just thought liberals were wrong. Right. And but I think it's it's become much deeper and and worse than that. I mean, it goes on both sides.

Yeah. I think they're evil. Yeah. Well, so so do I. certainly become deeper than that. Even even Matt Judge when OJ died I as I recall the Drudge Report took heat because the headline they carried was cancer murders OJ

was the I believe was the Wait, who had that headline? That's hilarious. Yeah, if you go back, the Drudge Report took heat for it, but I believe it was cancer murders OJ.

That's really funny. Holder's got a very interesting sense of humor. If that's if that's not that and you came up with it, Tom, I think it's hilarious.

No, no, it was OJ Zero. Sorry. Okay, let's go to the next story, Tom. Next story I want to get to is uh this this one story, which so curious to know what you guys are going to say about this. Oprah Winfrey makes controversial claim

that overeating doesn't cause obesity. It's not her fault. Okay, the calories get in there.

It's not her fault. It's it's a beautiful commercial for GLP1 is what it is. I mean, it's really that's what it is. Rob, if you want to play the clip, go for it.

All these years, I thought I was overeing. I was standing there with all the food noise, what I ate, what I should eat, how many calories was that, how long was it going to take? I thought that that was because of me and my fault. Now I understand that if you carry the obesity gene, if that is what you have, that is what makes you overeat. You don't overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat. Obesity causes you to have all of that food noise. And what the GLP1s have done for me, and I know a number of other people, is to quiet that noise.

What What do you What do you think about when you try to quiet that noise? What do you think about what she's saying here?

Um, well, I probably shouldn't say this because I'll get a lot of people mad at me, but I so want these GLP drugs not to work. It makes me so angry that people are not just eating right and exercising. It's unfair. They're just going to take a pill. No, of course overeating causes obesity. Like it it it drives me crazy. Well, first of all, like what a groundbreaking like revelation that she had. I I think it's up there with with Einstein discovering relativity. She like her saying that obesity it for you don't overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat.

Really? And it's funny that she's done a complete 180, mind you. She she stepped down from Weight Watchers board, I believe in 2024 to promote the GLP1 drugs. And now she's claiming that obesity is driven by genetics and largely out of control. It's convenient. That makes GLP-1 her solution. And I'm I'm I'm curious to see who she's going to come out and back. And by the way, horrible outfit choice. Can we can we address? She's wearing a men's suit. Has she crossed over, Rob? Did you see that?

I do think she looks very stylish. I mean, I'm against what she is saying. I DON'T WHAT IS SHE WEARING? I DON'T GET IT.

LISTEN, Oprah can do whatever she wants to do. Oprah, she's 71. Yeah. And by the way,

she's looking good for 71. Wow. But I cuz I don't know if Twitter's going to work. RFK tweeted and put, "Dear Oprah, yes, you were overeing for years, and it wasn't some mystical obesity gene puppeteering your fork. It was your choices. There's no way he

I swear to you, he did this. Stop parody account." No, this is RFK. Uh, well, right there. That's it right there. He goes, "It was your choices. Stop selling surrender as science. Our kids deserve the truth that real changes start with personal accountability, not excuses. Make America healthy again.

You know, if I could say one other thing about the GLP drugs, contrary to all of the ads for it, more than half of people go off it within six months because it causes so many digestive issues and problems. Um, so it it may not be working quite as well as

you all the all the side effects were like bad breath, your butt is gone, vomiting. Apparently it was something was happening positively, but and again it's getting everybody away from putting

Can't say something like that. What did you just say? It does something positively.

It does something for them. 78 people just placed an order right now. What does it what does it do for me? I THOUGHT I SAW A REPORT THAT SAID that's justic was making it does everything right areas AND A BUNCH OF Viagra buddy.

No, it wasn't. No, the New York Times wrote about that. The rest of you slim down. Oh, that's what it is. Okay. Well, that males are reporting surprising, but she MAKES A GOOD POINT. EVERYTHING ELSE.

YEAH. When you're when you're 300 lb, you go down to 180, you're going to look a little

Adam there for a while. How you been? GUY. I I'M WITH I'M with Ann on this, by the way. Not Olympic.

Ann and I are going to agree for a for for a change today because I was talking to a friend. He's going to see this clip. He's going to freak out. Um and I said he he took Ozmpic, my buddy, and he said, "Oh man, I started having all these problems. My shoulder I couldn't I couldn't like lift my hand." I said, "Oh, interesting. So, these shortcuts are actually there's some side effects of this." I said what you don't earn you don't keep you know and they say like and like I tell this to only fans girls when I when I used to interact with them not anymore because I'm the man of the Lord. I said easy money is going to come with hard lessons.

Oh goodness. You're going to you know get rich quick. I'd rather build wealth slow. So all these people that are taking these shortcuts you might end up with some oh zmpic penis or whatever you want to call it but you need to build the habits that get you there. It's the same thing with winning the lottery. You win $100 million. The average lottery winner is broke within three years because you don't have the framework and the habits to keep the money. So, it's the same thing with OMIC. You're 300 lb and now you're 180. Two years from now, you're going to be 300 lb. By the way, you know who's going to agree with this? Oprah.

Because her thing was a yo-yo with her weight. She's 250, then she's 120, then she's 300. How many the whole story with Oprah? So to anyone out there who thinks that shortcuts is the way, that's not gonna work.

It's such a lazy assessment. Yep. To say something like that. I I I went on three different AI uh what do you call it? Like the chat GBTs and I is there such a thing at obesity gene and it says uh uh the answer is not one gene. Obesity is influenced and you know each was small. Okay, think of it as genes load the gun environment pulls the trigger. You know what it made me think about? No. I had a guy, you hear me every once in a while, I quote this guy. I had this guy on him, Jim Clemente.

Can you pull this guy up? He's a retired FBI survivor. You know what his job was? He was the first person that would sit with the person that just killed someone.

Yeah, of course. You just killed your spouse. I'm the first one that interviews you. What a job. That was his job, right?

And the question was asked, you know, what causes somebody to be a killer? And he said this. He says, "Genetics loads the gun. Personality and psychology aims the gun. Experiences pull the trigger.

Wow. So, apply that to this. Okay. Maybe genetics loads the mouth. Yes. Okay. But personality and psychology, Oprah is what aims the food here and you kept doing this.

Yeah. Okay. And then experiences you're sitting around up everybody's eating pizza, cheesecake. Let me have one as well. Let me have one as well. So this lazy always deflecting responsibility on why you look the way you do. Oh my god. Just stop it already. Needs a mouth.

Think of what Cartman used to say on South Park. He like I'm NOT FAT. I'M JUST BIG BONED. IT'S LIKE NO.

OKAY. You fat dude. Yeah. You need a mouth goalie. That's what she needs. This thing right here.

I'm not fat. I'M BIG BONE. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY, BUDDY. As we're going through this logic, let's go through this next one. Josh Holly is asking a doctor a very basic question. Folks, by the way, if you're in a good mood right now, you're going to be in a bad mood in 90 seconds.

Okay, this doctor is going to annoy the hell out of you in 90 seconds. Josh Holly is trying to get the answer to one question. Can men get pregnant? He has to ask it 11 times. Go ahead. said a moment ago that science and evidence should control, not politics.

So, let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant? I take care of people with many identities, but um

can get pregnant many women that can get pregnant. I do take care of people that don't identify as women that

can can men get pregnant. Three, again, as I'm saying, let me just let me just remind you what you testified to a moment ago. Science and evidence should control, not politics. So, should can men get pregnant?

You're a doctor. I agree. Science and evidence should guide medicine. I do. Science and evidence tell us that men can get pregnant, biological men, can they get pregnant?

I also think yes no questions like this are a political tool and no yes no questions are about the truth, doctor. Let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about science and evidence. And I'm asking you, you know, the United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great length on this question. This is not a hypothetical question. This is not theoretical. It affects real people in their real lives. And you're here as an expert called by the other side as an expert. And you've been telling us that you that you follow, right? You're a doctor and you follow the science and the evidence. So, I just want to know based on the science, can men get pregnant?

Seven. That's a yes or no question. It really is. I think I think you're trying to reduce the complexity of a lot.

I'm not I'm trying to get It's not complex. I'm trying to get to an answer and I'm trying to test frankly your veracity.

Great as a medical professional and as a scientist. Can think he can get pregnant.

Also conflating can get pregnant. No, I'm not conflating male and female. They're two different things. There's biological men and there's biological women. And I want to know can men get pregnant?

What you were talking about is you're not going to answer my question. Biological males. Um

this isn't hard doctor. Can men get pregnant? Yes or no? I would be more than happy to have a conversation with you that is

I'd be more than happy to have a conversation. This is the left and I'm not trying to be polarizing. I'm trying to ask I I think it is extraordinary that we are here in a hearing about science and about women. And for the record, it's women who get pregnant, not men.

No, it's birthing people. Senator Well, and going back. Okay, this is okay. Every time we think we've we've gone past this, we come all the way back and going off of what she said about this party, this ideology, this leftist being evil. Guys, this is when you can't differentiate male or female, and you're pushing it out there and you are a doctor. When you are pushing surgery and tr and transitioning to children, when you're pushing for violence, for stuff to happen, all this stuff equates to a party of evil. And let's Okay, yes, there's Republicans, neocons at war.

Yeah, they're evil as well. But this party has nothing positive to stand on. And then I said this a month ago, name me one. I know that there's Christian Democrats. Name me one. One that's openly out there saying, "Hey, as a Christian, this is wrong. Kids can't do this. Abortion. 73 million abortions a year worldwide. It's wrong. We shouldn't be murdering these children. Where is the one Christian voice that's up standing up for this freaking nonsense? Where where where is it? Where are they?

Inside. There's got to be some. Where is one? I'm saying, have you heard of vocally like this is preposterous. You're sitting in Congress. Mind you, this isn't a conversation at a hookah bar or a cigar lounge. You just nah. Well, I like I want to debate. You're in front of Congress. You're in front of the world and you cannot answer a simple yes or no if men could get pregnant. They can't. End of story. Move on. So, because my question is to you, why why is she so defiant? Why what is making her stick to her gun so to speak in this?

I am baffled at how the Democrats are absolutely sticking with the transgender thing no matter how many people dislike it. Um, if if if I can make a point about completely off topic, but on your abortion point, um, Bobby Weer of the Grateful Dead died this week and there's a fantastic video of him talking about how he was adopted and he found the birth parents and his father turned out to be like an Air Force captain or something. But it was pretty cool story and I was thinking I have to add him to my list of all these people who would not have been born if their mothers had gotten pregnant after Roie Wade and they would not be with us and I think it's God telling us Jeff Bezos Jobs Jack Nicholson now Bobby Weer forgotten about obviously Tim Tibo um

I have a long long list these are the ones I'm thinking of off the top of my head but another adopted an amazing amazing person.

Mhm. Well, and that and again going back to the point of what does this party stand for? There's no backbone. There's no faith. There's no nothing. It's to me it's just anti- positivity, anti-Trump, and it's just all negativity. There's like nothing positive coming from these people.

Well, there's a very logical line there, but it is insanity, right? It is insanity, but there's the logic of insanity. She's being asked a scientific question in Congress, but she worships at the altar of liberalism which needs to create and enable these groups which are then the victims which are the blood on the flag that they wave. It's that simple. And so she can't answer a scientific question when she is sitting there about to violate the tenants of her belief in liberalism. And if you follow that logic, you say, "Well, that's perfectly logical why she can't do it. It's insanity. It's weird. It's bizarre." But it is her faith because she alters at she worships at the altar of liberalism.

Great freaking point. Yeah. I mean, I've been trying to have a baby with my girlfriend and

this whole time I've been the one that's been trying to get pregnant AND IT'S JUST NOT WORKING.

And she's like, "Dude, can you do it?" I'm like, "I'm trying, babe." Wow. And they go, "By the way, have you thought about maybe her

being the one getting what it is?" I WAS LIKE "WHAT? Wait a minute. She's the one that does it?"

So, I called my mom and I go, "Mom, is it true that you're the one that birthed me?" She goes, "Yeah, hun. Why? It wasn't your dad." I go, "Mom, you're going to be offending some people right now, but this is the offensiveness. Like, you're now offending our common sense." And shout out to Senator Holly. What an easy job he has at this point. Hey, you know what? Like Ronald Reagan was the great communicator. He brought down communism. You know, Abraham Lincoln had to end the Civil War. Josh Holly has to get up on and and say, "Uh, can men have babies?" And you're doing great service for the American public because stupidity is there.

I I want to I want to I want to raise this go off of what an just said, and it inspired me to look this up. Who are the top leaders around the world who were adopted or raised by family? You ready for these names? I knew about Steve Jobs.

He was adopted by an Armenian family by Armenian mother by the way. Steve Jobs.

Yeah. Steve Jobs. Adopted at birth, later co-founded Apple. Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison was adopted as an infant. Founder of Oracle.

Dave Thomas adopted founder of Wendy's. He lives lived in our community. Just so you know, before he passed away, the house to the left.

Marilyn Monroe placed in foster care, later adopted. Faith Hill, adopted shortly after birth, later became a global music icon. John Lennon, raised and legally adopted by his aunt Mimi. Nelson Rockefeller, adopted. Malcolm X, foster care after father's death and mother's institutional in institutionalization. Bill Clinton, raised by grandparents, later stepfather. Simone Biles, raised by grandparents, later adopted by them. Louisie Armstrong, raised by grandmother and other guardians. Oprah Winfrey, raised by grandmother and later later relatives. Elellanor Roosevelt, orphaned young, raised by grandmother. Jack Nicholson, raised by grandparents, believing they were his parents. Eric Clapton, raised by grandparents.

Colin Kaepernick, adopted by white parents. Yes. Major cultural figure, later on blamed them. Okay. Maya Angelo raised by grandmother after early trauma. Babe Ruth raised in a reformed school under guardianship. Wow.

Can you imagine if these guys were never born? Oh, these guys changed the world. Literally. Steve Jobs.

How many have we lost? That's a great point you make. How many have we lo 70? I saw the number and I had to double check it. 73 million children are murdered every single year in the world. That

what? Yeah. What? AND I KNOW PEOPLE BE LIKE, "WELL, INCEST." NO, NO. The number of incest. Put that away. people that are willingly going and going, you know what? I don't want it. I'm gonna murder this kid.

And it works as we call United States, the black genocide. Both in Weir's case and and Job's case. Okay. The parents are in college. Yeah. It's a bad time to get pregnant. They go away. Yeah.

The Weir didn't even know because Weir's father didn't know because the mother never told him. They were college kids. She just went to um I don't know, San Francisco, Bay Area, had the baby, gave it up for adoption. It's It's not going to wreck your life.

Yeah, exactly. By the way, I just looked up what uh number is uh for abortions in 2024.

Uh 1 million 38,000 where in America alone? Just here? Just here worldwide. You said 73 million.

73 million. Yeah. 73 million a year. 1.14 million is increase the number. And by the way, can you pull up by ethnicity

or by Yeah. by background to see what it is? We'd love to see some data. Black Africanameans, you ready?

They're only 13% of the population. They're 41% of the abortions. So, out of the 1,410,000

were black, African-American, white, non-Hispanic 33 to 36, Hispanic 20 to 22, Asian 6 to7, everybody else is 2 to 3% of the abortion. Okay. Thank you, Margaret. What was the last name?

Sanger. Planned Parenthood. She's a Planned Parenthood person, right? And notice the notice how the phrasing two package. Now you want to move on. Look at how innocent and planned parenthood. They should just name it baby killing. Come here and we'll kill your baby.

If you take a look at the voting block, Barack Obama shouldn't have been our first black president. He should have been our second.

If you go back to 1973 and look at the size of the voting blocks and the size of the populace of that would have made up the United States, statistically speaking, he should have been our second black president.

Somebody should have made it there is what you're saying. like somebody else would have made it there. Yeah. Let me let me get to uh uh uh u let me get to Venezuela. Let's talk about Venezuela here because and I know you've written about this. You've talked about this.

So, President Trump brags about a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president. They had a meeting of opposition leader. Rob, if you want to pull up this clip. This is is this the vice president of Maduro, right? This is the person that replaced Maduro that was under Maduro.

Yes. If that's the call. Okay. Rob, do you want to play this clip? Okay. Go for it, Rob. and we'll see how it all works out. I think something will work out. Yeah,

Cabello, the the deacto number two in Venezuela right now, he seemed pretty reluctant to work with the US and obviously he

us they just gave us 50 million barrels of oil. Number the number two, the Venezuela security.

I don't know. I know the number one. We just had a great conversation today and she's a terrific person. I mean, she's somebody that we've worked with very well. Marco Rubio is dealing with her. I dealt with her this morning. We had a call, a long call. We discussed a lot of things and I think we're getting along very well with Venezuela. Yes.

So, open-ended question. What do you think about everything that's going on with Venezuela? Everything that happened and that's going on.

Fantastic. I'm so happy that he is pursuing this Monroe Doctrine. I do care about what happens in our hemisphere and just I mean I love that both on his Iran bombing, which I wasn't in favor of before it happened, but he just did it and left. not sending in troops. And he does the same thing in Venezuela. Just goes in, grabs the guy who's been under indictment under the Obama administration, under the Trump administration. They gave up. I I mean, it's just a ridiculous communist government and it's just a drug cartel.

That's the only way Venezuela makes money. It did have to be shut down. I like the idea and I like the way Rubio talks about it. Especially, I like the idea of America going in and and installing puppets. Um, I don't we didn't have a problem with fentinel and 100,000 Americans dying of of drugs every year back when we were installing puppets in Latin America. We didn't have open borders and and and millions of people streaming across our border. This is in our neighborhood. It's really really affecting our country. So, I love that he did it.

Yeah. If there's one person I trust in this situation, it's Marco Rubio. 100%. His family is Cuban immigrants. He understands what's going on. I mean, born and raised obviously uh raised in Miami. By the way, the uh I how many I can't I don't know if I have more Colombian friends or Venezuelan friends, but they're everywhere in Miami. I've asked every single Venezuelan, Colombian, I go, "Yes, or no, Maduro." They're like, "Get them out of here." Not one person has said, "Well, you never know." Juxapose that with the Ayatollah situation, the the equivocating over here. By the way, did you notice as soon as we took out Maduro, the Colombian president pro was all tough and bluster goes, "Yeah, yeah, I'll come meet you at the White House, sir." Like, I'll come meet you. All of a sudden, when you take out a bad dude, other bad dudes start to act a little bit better. Uh, by the way, FYI to the people of Cuba, you never

know what's going to happen to your leader next. I'm just saying. You never know what's going to happen to your leader, and you don't know what's going to happen to Cuba.

You know, uh, uh, can you imagine by the end of his term? We're debating where to go for summer. Oh, let's go to uh,

Waldorf Atoria in Cuba, right? Let's go to St. Reges for Cuba. Really? Yeah. Let's just go hang out over there. What?

Yeah. This is this is a a a very unique thing when you think about this whole concept of how we went America went from playing offense

and went from being smaller to 13 colonies. We fought and were willing to put our lives on the line for 3% taxes and then we come down and we have these 13 colonies and then we get started. America does the great founding uh fathers and I'm a byproduct of what they did for my family to have moved here to have the life that I have. Then we buy Louisiana 15 million. Then we buy uh Florida 5 million. Then Texas comes to us. Then Alaska 7.2 million. Then the war for uh you know California, Arizona with Mexico. And then we could go all the way down. James Pulk says let's take over all of Mexico. Little bit of hesitation because of Catholic Mexicans to be part of it and having representation. And then let's take over Cuba. He draws that whole line. And then no one talks about it. And then there's World War I, America's afraid. Then we come back. Then there's World War II.

Hey, let's start the CIA 1947. Let's start doing all these coups and proxies and all this other sudden. Let's get involved in everyone's marriage and everyone's business and everyone's this and this guy's coming up and saying, "No, I want Greenland. What do you want to do about it?

Are we we're going to attack you, Denmark? Go ahead. I want Greenland." That's not how it works. It actually does.

I want Greenland. That's not how this works. You You don't study history. Go study history. If somebody comes in and says they want this land, you can fight for it

and I can choose to fight or you can do a deal and I pay you. Wow. And then let me go build something I want to build. There was a tweet that came out today from Trump. We can't find it. He says, "I promise you I won't build a Trump Tower in Greenland." That's from 2019. I don't know if you guys seen this one or not. Do you remember that tweet with the picture? So, and guess what he's doing now? Venezuela. It's Monroe. Donro. Hey, this is on a western. I don't I I really really like the way he's thinking. Yeah, this right here. Tweet. Is Twitter back up by the way? Rob,

it's back up. Okay, good. This is a tweet, by the way, from 2019. Go to the bottom, Rob. I promise not to do this to Greenland. August 19, 2019, six years ago. Five and a half years ago. So, I I don't mind any of this stuff. The part that I want to ask you about is the following.

So, is it Eduardo Demundo Gonzalez? I'm saying the name incorrectly. Eduardo Gonzalez, the guy who wins. Ed Mundo Gonzalez who wins and Maria Karina Karina Machado becomes under him which is really her winning but she becomes a you know front face and the election numbers comes out. We had her on the podcast a week after she won and we had a conversation with I said why are you not being more vocal and going and talking about it you're just hiding and and she goes to the White House Rob if you want to play the clip. She just won a Nobel Peace Prize few months ago. And she goes in and hands over the Nobel Peace Prize to the president. Okay. And that's what she got. And if Rob, if you want to go play the clip of her saying that and handing it over to her. No, the one where she says that I am here proudly wanting to give my Nobel Peace Prize to President Trump and she is recognize him and peace prize Trump. And uh there's a

speech. If you can't find it, it's fine. and we'll just go into it. Uh uh okay, it's all good. If we can't find a clip, I'll look for it.

This is her uh with Fox News where she afterwards he deserves it. Okay, go for it.

In spite of the Nobel Prize committee saying that you couldn't transfer your Nobel Prize to anyone, especially President Trump. You did today. Why did you do that?

Because he deserves it. And um it was a very emotional moment. I decided to to present uh the Nobel Peace Prize Medal on behalf of the people of Venezuela

in spite of the Nobel Prize committee saying that you okay so she does that which is great very noble and I think a part of it she wants to do to give him credit because the day she won that day she said

I don't know why you're giving it to me you should have given it to her president responds it was my great honor to meet Korea Marina Machado of Venezuela today. She's a wonderful woman who has been through so much. Maria presented me with her Nobel Peace Prize for the work I've done. Such a wonderful gesture of mutual respect. Thank you, Maria. Great. Even with this this guy, this unique guy was still not flattered enough to say you can have the job.

Yeah. Watch what Caroline Levit says here. Go ahead. Be bought. Is it still the president's assessment that it would be very hard for Miss Machado to leave Venezuela because he says she lacks the respect and support in that country and will he raise that with her today?

I think the president's assessment uh that you just pointed out was based on realities on the ground. It was a a realistic assessment based on uh the what the president was reading and hearing from his advisers and national security team. And at this moment in time, his opinion on that matter has not changed.

He has also said that he would like there to be elections in Venezuela when the time is right. That's right. Do you have any update on when that might be? And is he committed to a transition to democracy for Venezuela?

Yes. And he is also committed to hopefully seeing elections in Venezuela one day, but I don't have an updated timetable for you today.

Okay. Reaction to it? I want to hear from you. Your reaction on the fact that he still is not given her the throne. Well, for one thing, it gives the lie to the Washington Post and various MSNBC. They're snippy. He won't let her be leader because she won the No. No, it has nothing to do with that. I think it's the same thing as with Reza. No, she's not going to be the leader. We need a military hunter there. Exactly what you were saying about Iran. No, for one thing, I think it should be a man. This is an Hispanic macho culture, but it's it ought to be someone with the support of the military. I would not let those people vote again.

They voted for Chavez over and over again. It was the poor people, the peasants running out. Oh, you're going to give us the golf courses and yep, he gave them go the golf courses. Well, okay, this is what they got. They voted for this. So, do not let those people vote again. Um, it's going to have to be a military guy. I understand this from her perspective. I think it was from the heart. He has done a lot. If there were a legitimate peace prize in the world, Trump should have won it. I don't think the Nobel Peace Prize is legitimate. I don't know why Trump does want it. I think it's kind of embarrassing that he accepted it. He should have thanked her and said that's a lovely gesture, but it's the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm like, this means nothing to me.

Yo, Obama got it with what? How long was Obama in? I don't think he was even president.

No, no. I think it was like he just showed up and like, hey, here, take this. Yeah, you're Jesus to us. But I think you with with you made a good point about the res palvie. He doesn't feel he he knows he's like all the flattery in the world. Trump is is laser focused right now. And I think the you know what why the left and all these people this they're not used to a real leader. Okay. And they're just and and I I can't even blame them. They're not used to it. They've never had this type of freaking boss coming. You know what it reminds me of? like a a a mother getting divorced and the old dad was like whatever and the new stepdad comes in and he's like a marine retired and the KIDS DON'T KNOW HOW OH MY GOD THERE'S DISCIPLINE there's freaking order let's not forget Venezuela emptied the freaking prisons all the drug boys trenagua going around taking up freaking residency and apartments in freaking um

in Colorado but here's my thing if there's a way that the United States could make Venezuela a better place for those and the people hitting ice with shovels in the head. Good. I'm all for it. Make your place good so you don't have to come here and ruin ours. Plain and simple. That's it.

Yeah. And it's pretty clear, you know, socialism or communism sounds good, but it's not good. So, if if we want to implement this new Donro doctrine, you know, let's keep communism and socialism, let's keep it as far into the Eastern Hemisphere as possible. But if it's going to creep into the Western Hemisphere like it has done

in Venezuela. Yeah. Amazing country now ruined. Cuba, we've seen what's going on there. Brazil, your friend Lula. Uh, you you mentioned Cuba. Have you ever been to Cuba?

No. I've been to Cuba 10 years ago for our friend Keith's bachelor party. I don't know how he pulled it off. We went on some mission trip.

And here's how it would define communism and socialism. We get there. It's literally the 1950s. Like it's like you're time traveler. Shout out to Candace Owens who thinks that Charlie Kirk's a time traveler now. That's another's whole story. You know, I love Back to the Future. But you go Back to the Future in Cuba

and you get there, you check into your hotel and you're living, you know, in in the center of town, city center, and it's genuinely nice

in your little part of city center. Yeah. And then you get in a car and you say, "Let's go drive around." And it's like, you know how like Disney World it looks like it's a nice building and you go in and it's all just fake. Everything is broken down, has not been fixed, nothing works. Everything's dilapidated. Buildings are crumbling. Nothing's been updated since the 1950s, 1960s. So, it looks great on the surface and then you open the door, you pop the hood or you drive around the block and the whole thing is crumbling. That is communism.

By the way, did you guys go out? Like, was there night life? Yes, we went out. Some women, nice party. I'm not allowed to talk about it, Pat. No, I'm I'm just telling you. I'm asking you.

We did go out. So, it was good. It was fun. Yes. I mean, was it like a a 50y year ago Miami vibe? Like, is it like that or was it still you felt like you're in a different country?

You definitely I mean, I live in Miami, so to me going out in Dural or going out in uh Caracus or Havana, it's the same thing. But it's it's very interesting. Ernest Hemingway, the whole thing. But you're traveling, literally driving around

in American Cadillacs from 57 57 Western Hemisphere. That's Western Hemisphere. So he could do something with that as well.

And by the way, you know, there's enough people. Where is Ted Cruz from, by the way,

isn't he Cuban? Is he? Well, he was born in Canada, but his father's Cuban. I get it. I get it. But But isn't his father Cuban? Like he is Yeah. So, I think there's enough interested parties that I think

I don't know. Well, go down to Miami. You'll see what they expansionist mindset as a capitalist. I don't mind. I know it's going to upset a lot of socialists and communist and and TDS folks, but I don't mind it.

So, let me get to uh uh the the the last story. Rob, do you have the story of what happened with the shovel and the shooting and the like two guys at the same time? You know which one I'm talking about, Vinnie?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, so let Rob, what page is this on? This happened two days ago.

Is this the one that says illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in Minneapolis? Rob, is that the one? Okay, so illegal Venezuelan migrants shot in Minneapolis

for the last 24 hours after mercilessly ambushing Fed agent with snow shovel. Weird.

According to DHS. Yeah. Okay. Again, another one of those that sounds like an onion story or a Babylon beast story, but it's not.

Mhm. So, an illegal Venezuelan migrant was shot in the leg by a federal immigration agent in Minneapolis after he allegedly fled during a traffic stop and beat the ambush officer with a snow shovel Wednesday evening. The Department of Homeland Security said the suspect was behind a wheel when he tried to get away from federal immigration officers uh at 6:50 p.m. local time, but he crashed into a park car. Great driver. The migrant then tried to escape on foot and violently assaulted the officer as two wrestled on the ground. According to an expost, while the man continued to struggle with the officer, two other people emerged from a nearby apartment and allegedly mercilessly attacked the agent with a snow shovel and broom handle in the chaos. Rob, do you have the video on this? Is there documentation? No, sir. I I don't think there's actual video of it happening, but I'm pretty sure Rob will have the

three Venezuelan illegals that were involved in it. And notice uh you're not going to see you're not going to see it plastered everywhere. It was like on for like an hour, but then it disappears. You know why? It doesn't fit the narrative. It's not a a mother of three who they're using old photos. No, it's three dudes that look like they just got out of prison.

You have the photo. Can we see the pictures, Rob? Robbie, do you have a photo about three Venezuelans that were? By the way, let me tell me how peaceful and and sweet these guys look. These You don't see them liberals sticking up for these guys, huh? The family. These guys right here. Those are the three guys.

Yeah. Yeah. We have to go. We have to go to the picture. Yeah. Yeah. Exact. GREAT POINT. HINDU STAND time to show these dudes. Where where the WHERE'S WHERE'S THE RIOTS? Where's the Where's the craziness? Where's the wildness? So, so by the way, and where does he get the attitude of, you know what, I'm gonna get out of my car. I'm gonna try to hit him with my car, and then a door opens FROM A HOUSE. TWO OTHER VENEZUELANS COME OUT AND START BEATING him with shovels. Anybody want to take a wild stab in the dark of where the hell they're getting this attitude because the freaking mayor, the governor, and Elon Omar are like, "Guys, fight back."

Okay, these this is the enemy. Okay, notice how it didn't make it, right, Tom? This isn't But you barely saw it. And then this

What is this? This is a Go ahead, Rob. This is a separate uh incident. This is a Latin Kings member. So, while that police officer reportedly was being attacked, uh other police officers in Minneapolis went to his aid. While they were doing that, this Latin Kings member then broke into a police car and then stole police weaponry, including a gun, bullets, and a bulletproof vest

simultaneously. When this is what you were telling me in the back, Yep. So, it happened at the same time. And then the FBI just arrested this guy yesterday.

FBI arrested him. But now, think about it. They're now they're armed with tied chains to the gun locker and then they have another car go drive.

Just an FYI, I want people out there to know. What are these guys doing? They're stealing everything from the car. Weapons, guns, magazines, bullets. That's a long rifle stolen.

FBI rifle. NO, LOOK AT THAT TATTOO. WHAT? GUYS, IS THAT A FATHER FROM MARYLAND? Is that another father from Maryland? Is that who the hell that was?

That Maryland man HAS A GUN. MARYLAND. OH, THAT WAS A MINNESOTA MAN. CUZ HE'S A DAD, RIGHT? GIVE ME A BREAK. And I'm going to warn everybody out there for all these morons out there. Hopefully this hits one of their their their their TVs or their phones. If you get into a cop car that's armed,

who's recording this? There's people idiots. They want clout. They're recording. Look at look at it. Had a professional setup.

Dumb criminal. All of them are stupid. There's these are the dumbest criminals. They record everything. Morons. But just just I'm gonna finish my point. If a you jump in a cop car and and there's weapons in the cop car and there they could shoot and kill you as you're leaving because now you're going to go and they don't know which guy.

This is the guy that stole the stuff out of shocked the dude who made the decision to tattoo his face.

Weird made some other unfortunate Minnesota Tekashi 69 is out there breaking into vehicles and stealing guns. Okay, Tekashi 612.

Thoughts on this? Both of them? It's interesting how hard it is to get the pictures and the videos of this. Boy, you're not seeing that on MSNBC. You're not seeing that on CNN. Um, and also reminds us, yeah, he should be sending in federal troops. This is it's kind of an embarrassing mistake that the FBI I don't I don't care that somebody's being attacked. You got to hit the the clicker on your car when it's full of weapons like this. They should have left somebody to guard the weapons. That's not good. But yeah, this is most of the people they're arresting.

Tom, um one more thing about this. I'm sorry to finish. Um the things that they had besides being led in illegally by by Biden, besides being probable criminals in Venezuela, the only crimes they had committed in this country were relatively minor. If you only read it in pros, you know, they lied to police officers. They were driving without a license. This is what they look like. The difference between a oh no criminal conviction illegal and a criminal conviction illegal is about one week.

Yes, you're 100% right. I agree. Yeah. It's just like let me let me translate. Oh no, they're deporting our voting block. I mean that's that's that's really if you translate it and you look at this stuff and this is Portland. We're seeing it again. This is just like Portland and now we're going to defund the police. this mayhem will continue and then they're people are going to be coming back voting. These are liberals in Portland that are voting for restoration of justice and they're changing the names of all the groups of the police officers instead of SWAT to rapid response teams because maybe that feels better. But it's the same thing.

Five guys have invaded my house. Can you please come get them? Preferably drag them out. Thank you. You know, come conduct some police business. And that's what's going on here. I'm not being silly. We have seen it in Portland. We're about to see a complete, by the way, we've seen people in Chicago that would stop the citizen journalist and says, "Hey man, we need Trump to send them here. Please send them here." Reasonable people of multiple ethnicities that are living in these areas of the town. Hey man, I'm a southsider. Go White Socks. Look at what's going on here. We need the police need help. I'm I'm just mind you, please hear me completely out. I'm not hoping or wishing any of this to happen, but in my mind I'm like, what would make this these people, especially the higherups and the Tim Walts, the Ilhan Omar, the Fry, the the Gavin Newsome, what would make them I know because it is a voting

block thing. Like I'm just wondering like would a phone call like let's just say God forbid, hey Gavin. Yeah, what's going on? I I hate to say this to you, but your your son, God rest his was just killed. Oh my god. THE FIRST QUESTION, WHAT WHAT HAPPENED? AN illegal that wasn't supposed to be in the country was drunk driving and ran over him. I'm very curious to what happens to his pro- open border illegal. We need the votes, give them healthcare. Does that change someone like that or do they stick stick to their gun? He blames Trump the same way Fry is blaming ICE for fermenting violence.

100% 100%. And I and that's my thing is ICE is fermenting the violence. No, they're they're arresting people.

Yeah. And that's the thing is none of this has happened. None of this directly impacts any of the people that are out there that Ian Omar stepping on trucks and saying it until it happens to someone they love or someone that's close to them. I'm very curious to see if the tune changes cuz I but until that happens they don't give a damn cuz it's not their kids not their wives getting sexually assaulted. They're not getting freaking their money stolen. So it's it's it's it's nonsense. It's nonsense.

I think Minnesota needs their own version of Rudy Giuliani like how we cleaned up New York and unfortunately they're just continuing to elect the mom Donny's in Minnesota. And no wonder it's this. By the way, I'm born and raised in Miami. My mom is from Minnesota. I'd go to Minnesota uh every summer, winter, I would see people with snow shovels. I've never seen uh a Venezuelan with a snow shovel in Miami. What do you like Venezuelan and snow shovels? That's not a thing.

How would a Minnesota know how to operate? It's like a Somoleon with a a learing center. Why are these things occurring? I don't get it.

But this to me, you know, Pat, you've talked about something called the hero making machine. So this guy Jacob Frey, I just want to give this guy a big shout out to him. If we can show an image of him, this is what weak leadership looks like. This is the epitome of what is it? Uh good men create uh uh strong men create good times. Good good times create weak men. This is the weak man that they're talking about because in my opinion, he'd rather be liked than respected. Uh Rudy Giuliani, to give him some credit, would rather be respected than liked. Being liked is fleeting.

People will turn on you in an instant. Being respected, yo, that's that's respect, sir. So, it's kind of like we've seen this and and it's a weird analogy. In the NBA,

David Stern was respected. Maybe PB wasn't liked, but everyone respected him running the NBA. And now they got this guy, Adam Silver, that wants to be liked. And now the players are running the league, just like the protesters are running Minnesota. And just like the inmates are running the asylum, this is a failure of leadership and trying to make the hermaking machine this clown or George Floyd rather than real people with real solutions. I pray for Minnesota. And I hope Venezuelans stop hanging out with snow shovels. And just just because you mentioned his name, if this is okay, Pat, I want to play the video of your friend, Mayor Jacob Frey.

This is the biggest this is the biggest this is the biggest cell phone. He just made the argument against mass immigration, but he used ICE. Look at how stupid he looks. Go ahead, Rob. Look, imagine if that city or that town was suddenly invaded by thousands of federal agents that do not share the values that you hold dear.

It's Minnesota. Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted, the local cafe that you eat at was shut down because they're they're scared that their own family might get torn apart. What?

He just imagine if schools shut down and suddenly parents got to figure out what to do for daycare,

buddy. Those are the protesters that are rooting your How are you not understanding?

He's the funniest. These protesters are ringing this Somali. Yeah, imagine the thousands of people. Yeah, it's called Minnesota.

All right, let's do let's do this Clinton one and then we'll wrap up. So, facing contempt threat, Clinton refuses to testify in Epstein inquiry. Rob, if you got that, that's a New York Times story and I think John Stewart responds to it as well. Is that James Comr? Rob,

this is What clips do you have on this? Cuz that's a long clip. Is there What's Comr saying here? By the way,

this is where he talks about actually prosecuting the Clintons for avoiding the subpoena.

Go for it. Visited the White House. Jeffrey Epste visited the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president. I've been in Congress nine years. I think I've been to the White House nine times in nine years. Epstein was in the White House double the amount of time that I was under one president. And then we know that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane somewhere around 27 times after the presidency.

So no one's accusing Bill Clinton of any any wrongdoing. We just have questions and that's why the Democrats voted for she's holding him.

Is that the girl that goes to movies a lot? Yeah, she loves movies. That's who it is.

Lauren Boowbert's holding the movies. Yeah that's He loves movies, by the way. And this is what John Stewart had to say about it. Let's see what John Stewart is saying because John Stewart Go ahead. Go ahead, Rob.

Does is compliance a kind of specialized individual indigenous opportunity or is it should it be universal? Uh I mean, the Department of Justice has subpoenaed them to testify in the Jeffrey Epstein case while not complying with releasing the files. So, how does that comport in any but do I personally think they should comply? Abso fuckingutely. Absolutely. And and if they've got something uh to to hide or nefare like yes, we should know about all this. This is this is bonkers how long this is going on.

And we have only seen such a fraction. What I think I was reading it's like 2 million files still have to come out.

It's 1% is what I've seen. Yeah. Like that we've seen. And the casual nature in these emails are like, "Hey, can you get me an Indian and a red head?" Like, it's they're just casually is literally like they're ordering from, you know, uh uh Uber Eats

and the spelling errors. It's humiliating. Pause it right there. Okay. So, uh uh uh where are you at with this? Where are you at with the whole Epstein thing?

Um I would I I think Trump made a big mistake. one of the biggest ones of his of se his second term. Um, as for the Clinton thing, I well, I think it's utterly unfair. It's a great point John Stewart makes. When you're subpoenaed by Congress, you you have to respond to the subpoena. And if they're going to prosecute Steve Bannon for not responding to a subpoena and prosecute Peter Navaro for not The problem with DC is it's run by Democrats. So, I mean, this Eric Holder was in contempt of Congress. Um I think it was a virtually unanimous vote. Um and nothing can be done because it's a Democrat city. So that's a big problem when only one party has to respond to Sabinas. On the other hand, um if I were COMR, I would have phrased it differently. I would have said, um we have this big issue with Epstein. We're trying to get the bottom. We're investigating it. You were you're you're you were the head of the Democratic

party. You were president of the United States. We want your help here. We want you to come investigate. and not set it up as um as assuming guilt on the part of Bill Clinton.

Interesting. Adam, Bill Clinton's not going to ever get in trouble ever. It's not going to happen.

Uh and that's I mean, by the way, there's no I don't know if he's innocent, guilty, I don't know. That's not my thing. I just there's not going to be any accountability for Bill Clinton. There might be others. We saw what happened to Prince Andrew. We've seen what happened to who was it? Larry Summers. Is that who it was?

Okay. Lawrence Summer. Okay. Since he stepped away from Larry Clinton. Ain't nothing happening

to Bill Clinton. By the way, and I'm sure I'll catch a lot of heat from it on all the things that are on my news feed that I'm going to click on. China tariffs, you know, Maduro, Venezuela, let's buy Greenland. At the bottom of my personal list is this Epstein situation. Is it important? Of course. Do we need to find out what happened? Of course. Am I holding my breath? Not at all. But okay. But you saying, Adam, nothing's going to happen, which I agree with you, and I'll get to my point. But does it But does it bother you, Adam, that there's so much there's not there's not just smoke. There's a fire. The fire is burning and it's been burning forever.

Does it upset you though that none of them none of them are and are going to get held accountable? Because for for one thing, when you lawfully skip a subpoena, you know what that that saying? I'm above the law and I could do what I what are you going to do? What are you going to do? If that was you, Adam, or if that was me, bro, you would have nobody You would have been a whisper. Nobody would have You're gone and you're gone forever. Okay? And by the way, uh you know what nobody talked about? Not one single Democrat from the House Oversight Committee showed up to even sit there and wait for them cuz they know that wait, this is the same party THAT'S BEEN LIKE TRUMP AND TRUMP, WHERE YOU WHERE YOU AT WHEN it comes to them. AND THIS WHOLE PEDOPHILE protecting nonsense, it's it's it's preposterous. Okay, all these people know. They know when people are like, "Oh, it's Trump." No, no, they know what

the hell's going on. Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita or whatever jet from Epstein 22 to 23 times. Who? Jeffrey Epstein went to the White House. What was it, Rob? 17 TIMES IN ONE YEAR TO SEE THE PRESIDENT. WHAT WERE THEY WHAT WERE THEY DOING, ADAM? Were they trading recipes? Like carrot cake recipes? NO. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HIM and going to Epstein Island. We saw the photos coming out. I think I get where you're saying nothing's going to happen. It's not. One person's going to hold them accountable and they're all going to meet their freaking and Adam that gives me the most comfort in my heart of hearts is that you can run here and the prince of darkness runs this place. We're not running from him.

What happens if all these people that did all these illegal things except Jesus the last second?

Okay, good. Good luck again. No, I'm being serious. I'm actually being serious.

They care if they're Yes. In their hearts pedophiles in their heart and pedophiles and they care. I think we are going to find the question ask for forgiveness.

Pedophiles on Epstein Island that they accept Jesus at the last second. What happens?

In their heart of hearts. In their heart of hearts. They're good to go. Wow. But hold on. YOU THINK PEDOPHILES IN the last minute are going to say that? You think pedophiles No, not like Scott. Not like THE

OH, YOU DON'T think that pedophiles uh believe in Jesus? Have you heard of the Catholic Church, buddy?

No. I mean, come on. THAT'S YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE UP. COULD on the Epstein thing, which is our topic. Um

I think you're a kind of right. It's not that interesting yet, but I I I don't see any reason why it won't get interesting because the American people demanded that even even Trump do something he doesn't want to do.

Trump never said he wanted the Dan Bino. No, I'm not talking about the Epstein. Why are we talking about the point is a law was passed. They have to do it. The 1% now that's true. That's unfortunate. That's cuz they suddenly found a million more documents. I think we're going to get the documents. I mean, they can't. If we don't now, we're going to get them under President Vance. So, kind of boring now.

Have President I think we're going to get them at some point and that's when it's going to be at the top of your feet.

I just have one question for the great an H culture. Are you more interested in the Epstein case

or what's going on in Iran? Oh, definitely Epstein. Twitter being down is number one.

Yeah. No, I'm way more focused on Well, now well in regard to the story, the committee is set to vote on the contempt. If it passes, it goes to a full house vote where Republicans own the majority, but then it goes to the DOJ and Pam Bondi decides whether to prosecute. That's what I'm waiting for because she has connections to Florida. I know she showed up after the whole Epstein situation happened, but Pam with her 10,000 hours of videos and all that stuff. This is going I don't want this this isn't going to die out for me, Adam. I'm waiting to find out what Pam Bondi does because Bill and Hillary are kicking their feet up going we don't got to do nothing. He could do whatever he want besides the Wanita Brick and how many sexual assault allegations are on Bill. How many times did he have to fly to this island and meet with Epstein for somebody to go Yeah. seems like you're freaking guilty. It seems like he's

guilty Adam. It's not your fault. I know it's not. I'd rather have Holly asking the questions.

Yeah, you both. I'm worried about Republicans. Oh, no. What is an island? What?

What does is mean? What is What is Islam? Well, you know, this is already on a path for the DOJ because this is the first step. Congress pulls you in for a closed-d dooror deposition and then they refer the matter to the DOJ. That's the path we're on. Bill and Hillary wrote this long letter to Comr that they immediately handed to the New York Times that said there's a time to defend the people, the practices, and the justice of the United States. And that time is now. So that they right on Q, right on brand, portray themselves as being effectively patriots, freedom fighters, you know, uh, victims, cowering and cowering victims under the weight of mishandled, abusive justice. That's that's their positioning. And so now they're going to vote and say, do we hold them in contempt and do we go to the DOJ?

Even John Stewart is done with it. you know, he's like, "Listen, stop it." You know, go out there and show up. And but the part is if they don't show up,

you could get away with it under any other president except for Trump. So if Trump was using his power to get rid of Maduro, try to get Greenland, if Trump really wanted to, he could really target and get Clintons. He's not. That's the question. Why not? Is it friends? Is it allies? Is it not important? Is it you're using the list? Is it you using the list as a leverage?

Still time. There still is time. I'm just saying right now to there for sure. There's like bro code. Yeah.

Maybe there's like president code. It's like No. No. I don't think not anymore. Not anymore. There used to be.

I think he's waiting. You know what would be the greatest move? He waits till the LA right when he's about to leave.

You know who broke the president Jesus. Oh, by the way, you know who broke the president code? One guy Obama

Hussein Obama broke the president code. What'd he do when Trump was campaigning? What do you mean what he broke the president? By the way,

to be respectful, George Bush kept the code. Oh, he wrote Obama of nice. No, no, no. But what I'm saying to you is never once did he come out criticizing Obama. Even though every single day, if there was a word that Obama used the most, what was the one word?

What was the one word? I inherited. he inherited was his reap. I would love to know how many times did Obama under his admin under his under his administration use the word inherit? How many times can you ask Chie how many times did Obama use the word I inherited?

How many times during this administration? I'm willing to bet nobody's used that phrase more than this.

Steal that from you. That's a great point. Over and over and over again. So, just give him a shout out if you're saying he uh I'd love to see a stat on this. Uh, anyways, okay. If you're watching this right now and you're asking yourself, I fully disagree with what Adam had to say or Vinnie has to say in Epstein or any of the topics or if you're watching this honestly and I'm like being very honest with you guys. If you like Tom, you want to help him out, connect him a good joke. This was horrible today. Send him a few damn jokes. Like, you know what I bought him for his birthday? Do you want to tell everybody what I bought you for your birthday? Be honest. I I had this not Christmas for birthday.

It's like this little tower. There was three of them all wrapped real nice. Opened them. It was three books on the greatest dad jokes.

I'm trying to help out, guys. I'm trying to go out of my way. No, he's not reading yet. So, Brooke Bailey, maybe encourage your dad to pick up that book uh instead of all the other books he's reading. And with an Coulter and Coulter, if you're not already doing this, go follow her Substack and sign up for it. Rob, let's put the link below for people to go follow the Substack as well. Almost everything's free.

I love Almost. I'm a very bad business woman. Well, there's something called Bed David Consulting. If you want to scale your business, we have a five-step process that basically is dummy proof and you will scale your business to success.

And by the way, here I am. Vinnie represent me. Love your t-shirt. Thank you so much. I'll get you. I'm going to get you a female one. They have a bunch. They have some colors on this, too. But I'm going to get you all. I'll get you. I promise you I got you.

Guys, it is the weekend. Miami. Here I am. Send me down to Miami. No, Adam. That's Adam for you. By the way,

we have a Democrat one there. You send him. Have a great weekend. If but just an FYI for everybody. If something goes on this weekend, we're going to have an emergency podcast. So, brace for impact. If something crazy happens, because we have a president that's somewhat unpredictable. If something were to happen, we will do an emergency podcast. And Coulter, as usual, thanks for coming out. This was wonderful. You're awesome. Take care everybody. Have a great weekend. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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The discussion focuses on several controversial political topics, including the Insurrection Act, Donald Trump's nomination for a Nobel Peace Prize, the Clinton subpoena, and allegations surrounding Senator Kyrsten Sinema. The conversation features insights from guest Ann Coulter and highlights the intertwining of current events and political scandals.

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