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NEW Trump Info In Epstein Files Is EXTREMELY DISTURBING

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "NEW Trump Info In Epstein Files Is EXTREMELY DISTURBING", an episode of Pod Save America published January 31, 2026 (12 min, about 2,406 words). It mentions 6 people, works and ideas, including Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Secretary Howard Lutnik, Bill Gates, Richard Branson.

What this episode is about

The recent release of millions of files related to Jeffrey Epstein has revealed alarming connections to Donald Trump, with 3,200 documents mentioning him and a troubling summary from the FBI that includes unverified tips about their relationship. Notably, an Epstein victim reported that Ghislaine Maxwell presented her to Trump, raising significant questions despite the absence of confirmed incidents involving him.

Key takeaways

  • 3,200 documents link Trump to Epstein — just when we thought he was too busy denying everything.
  • Elon Musk's emails reveal he's a party-goer, not a financial advisor — Epstein's island was on his radar.
  • Gold star for audacity: Lutnik's moral high ground crumbles when Epstein Island invites surface.
  • FBI summary of Trump and Epstein tips: a murky compilation that raises more questions than it answers.
  • Maxwell presenting victims to Trump suggests a disturbing pattern — not just dinner guests, but pawns in a sinister game.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Donald Trump, Elon Musk
  2. – 6:00: Donald Trump, Secretary Howard Lutnik, Bill Gates
  3. – 9:00: Bill Gates, Cook Unity, Richard Branson

Notable quotes from "NEW Trump Info In Epstein Files Is EXTREMELY DISTURBING"

  • Just tell you guys what we have learned so far. so the New York Times says they have identified 3,200 documents that mention Donald Trump specifically.
    about Donald Trump · at
  • She's not like some sort of innocent biased dinner here. there's a bunch of emails going back and forth between Elon Musk and Jeffrey Epstein.
    about Elon Musk · at
  • That's a good call. but Lutnik, remember he previously claimed he had cut ties with Epste in 2005. Remember, he was doing an interview, I forget, it was televised. he said, Epste invited him to a tour of.
    about Secretary Howard Lutnik · at
  • Sounds like all these people were. one of the weirdest things in this set of documents is about Bill Gates. so this is an email I think Jeffrey Epstein sent to himself and it reads like a draft. It's it reads like he's.
    about Bill Gates · at
  • Area. Would love to see you as long as you bring your herm. Pods save America is brought to you by Cook Unity. I have been using Cook Unity forever, for years, long before they…
    about Cook Unity · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Donald Trump — Person · Major referenced figure in the files · 5 mentions · first at
    Discussed as heavily mentioned in the document dump; hosts cite FBI summaries and a victim interview form referencing Maxwell presenting a victim to him.
  • Elon Musk — Person · Referenced figure highlighted by hosts · 1 mention · first at
    Discussed due to emails with Epstein (2012–2014) that appear to contradict Musk's public claim that he refused an island invitation.
  • Secretary Howard Lutnik — Person · Referenced political appointee/business executive · 2 mentions · first at
    Hosts cite documents suggesting Lutnick visited Epstein's island in 2012, contrasting with his public claim that he cut ties earlier.
  • Bill Gates — Person · Referenced figure in a disputed allegation · 2 mentions · first at
    Hosts discuss an Epstein self-email/draft alleging embarrassing claims about Gates; they note Gates has denied it and that the document reads oddly.
  • Richard Branson — Person · Referenced billionaire in email evidence · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned due to a 2013 email to Epstein that the hosts characterize as revealing casual familiarity.
    There's an email from Branson in 2013 that says, It was really nice seeing you yesterday. anytime you're in the area. Would love to see you as long as you bring your herm. Pods save America.

Sponsors

  • Cook Unity — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at
    Promoted as a meal delivery service during the podcast, offering chef-designed meals with various dietary options.

Full transcript with timestamps

All right. Earlier today, the Justice Department released millions of new files about Jeffrey Epste or the investigations into him. Uh, as we speak journalists congressional investigators, everybody's combing through these for information, but the results so far are uh pretty goddamn disturbing.

These people are all gross. These are the worst people in the world. Um, so we decided to quickly jump on and just tell you guys what we have learned so far. Um, so the New York Times says they have identified 3,200 documents that mention Donald Trump specifically.

Thought he wasn't in the Epstein. Yeah, that probably that number will grow I assume over time. Um there's a really bizarre document where the FBI had assembled a summary of tips about Trump and Epstein. Um it's all uncorroborated or at least we don't have any evidence to back anything up. So we're not going to get into the specifics, but it's not clear why they would do that, right?

But who is this for? I guess you just run I guess if you call the FBI with a tip, it probably just gets memorialized, right?

Yeah, but who are they rounding them up for? Like is this going to the White House? Is this going to him personally? Right. So, I think that's a big question. Um, and then also for Trump, there's a document um, worth mentioning called a 302, which is like the standard form the FBI uses to document an interview with a witness or somebody. It's like, you know, who, what, when, where, and then notes on the conversation, but not verbatim. Um, one Epstein victim says Gain Maxwell quote presented her to Donald Trump. Now, it says nothing happened with Trump, but the mere fact that Galain Maxwell would take someone they were abusing and present them to Donald Trump, I think suggest something pretty damning in my book.

I think anytime you're being presented women uh by a third party uh and they use the word pres like in any in any context, yeah, it's a little a little sketchy.

Well, this is the way the woman described the way she was being treated. Again, we know this is sort of a pattern of serial abuse by Jeffrey Epste and Glenn Maxwell and the friends. And again, like it also hammers home that Gla Maxwell um she is an abuser. She's she's not like

some sort of innocent biased dinner here. Um there's a bunch of emails going back and forth between Elon Musk and Jeffrey Epstein.

Elon Musk, by the way, who said uh he uh Jeffrey Epste invited me to the island once and I refused. Yeah.

Seems like that's not true. Yeah. Elon's a breakout star of the Epstein Files. this time. Uh, so there's an email where Elon is planning to visit Epstein Island. And again, these emails are all between 2012 and 2014. Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to the first round of abuse allegations in June of 2008. So, this is years and years after he should have known better.

Also, we should just point out that Donald Trump claims that he broke broke off ties with Jeffrey Epste in 2006.

Right. Right. And there's another email in there that suggests Epstein was going to go to Mara Lago, I think in 2012. Um, but as you mentioned, yeah, Elon says, you know, Epstein tried to invite me to his island. I refused. Um, but the email from November 25th, 2012, Elon emails Epstein, what day will be the wildest party on your island?

Sounds like someone who was ready to refuse. Doesn't sound like a man who's going to look for financial advice or a conversation about the future of the tech industry, right? Like that that's a guy who knows what Jeffrey Epstein does. Yeah. Knows the vibe on the island and wants to go there.

Yeah. And Jeffrey Epste I think says, "I'll send the heli for you. Send them a helicopter."

Which is just No one's ever sent a heli for me. No. No one's ever sent. But we should say that you know these are all been released. Elon is just tweeting about Grock and AI just all today. So he's see he's seeing all these tweets. He knows this is happening. He's just he's tweeting through it.

And it does make again like remember when Elon had his break with Trump. It seems like they patched things up. His like final kind of coupross tweet was Donald Trump hasn't released the Epstein files because he's in them. Well

takes one to no one. Takes one to no one big time. Speaking of takes one to no one. Commerce Secretary Howard Luck uh Howard Lutnik Nutlick

Nutlick as uh others call him is in there too. So, this documents the they suggest that Lutnik visited Epstein Island in 2012. Uh, again, four years after

maybe that maybe he went to the the wild party night that Elon didn't get to go to.

That's a good call. Um, but Lutnik, remember he previously claimed he had cut ties with Epste in 2005. Remember, he he was doing an interview, I forget, it was it was televised. Um, he said, you know, Epste invited him to a tour of his mansion in the Upper East Side that was next door to his house. Uh they noticed a massage table in the middle of the room and Epstein explained that he received quote the right kind of massages every day. And Lutnik said that he and his wife left. They decided quote never be in a room with that disgusting person ever again. Uh so I was never in the room with him socially for business or even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn't going because he's gross. This is what he told a Pod Force One, the New York Post podcast. Uh but he went to the island. It sounds like

it's weird that these people don't tell the truth. Well, you can just see it memorialized like this.

There's something pathological though about making up a very specific saying like no, no, I never went, right?

Just leave it at that, right? Like you have to that's what they're because they

they just don't care. He made himself like the hero of the story. Like it's like it's like Elon, right? Like you you could just say no I I never went as opposed to saying

I refuse to go like they always have to go extra and make them like you know Donald Trump was the hero Donald Trump was blowing the whistle on ex Epste right remember that was that was one of the excuses too.

Yeah that's right. I mean and also you know Epste gave money to a charity dinner honoring Lutnik in 17 uh in 18 they exchanged emails about some other charitable thing. So like these guys were friends forever.

Sounds like all these people were. Um, one of the weirdest things in this set of documents is about Bill Gates. Um,

so this is an email I think Jeffrey Epstein sent to himself and it reads like a draft. It's it reads like he's sending himself a draft of an email that he wants to send to Bill Gates or he's just memorial memorializing something

um that he wants to exist and be embarrassing. So, it's lots of bitching and moaning about Gates having like his PR guy dump Epste as a friend, dumps him as a client. But then at the end there's this uh it alleges it says Kates said something to him like please delete the emails regarding your STD, your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give Melinda, his then wife, and the description of your penis. So the the suggestion is that Mr. Gates needed uh drugs to treat STDs that he got from sex with Russian women that had been facilitated by Jeffrey Epstein.

I will say that is reading the way that Jeffrey Epstein wrote that in an email to himself, it doesn't feel like something that you would uh if he was actually sending an email to M like it just seems a little off.

It's weird. It is. Um yeah, it's he like really swerves to get to this place. I'm not like I'm not defending Bill Gates who I don't know anything. Bill Gates

was also like do you think like is Bill Gates looking for uh STD medication from Jeffrey Epste? Is he that that his go-to source for uh the richest man in the world needs some STD medication? He's like, I got to go to Jeffrey Epstein for it.

Probably knows some doctors. Yeah, that's a fair point. So, again, Gates denied this to Business Insider or probably other outlets. We don't know the truth. It's really weird. It's the whole thing just all of this is weird. Like, that's the story of this whole thing. It's so gross and uncomfortable. Um Richard Branson's in there, the founder of the Virgin Group.

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Yeah. Yeah. The FBI didn't need to do a real deep investigation. They get access to like one inbox and they could have found all this stuff.

They weren't they weren't trying too hard to hide the sketchiness. Yeah. And it's like again, it's all really rich and powerful people. Like Epstein reportedly scouted women for Steve Tish, who is the New York Giants co-owner. Uh there's emails of them kind of like talking about whether certain individuals are professionals or civilians. Um the here's the one of the weirdest things, John. There's a Epstein emails a Russian guy he knows saying he needs a favor because a quote Russian girl from Moscow is attempting to quote blackmail a group of powerful businessmen in New York. and he says, quote, "It's bad business for everyone involved." And then he provides this guy her physical address.

Jesus Christ. Like where she's staying in New York. And the Russian is reportedly a former uh Russian economic minister with ties to Russian intelligence. Now, I haven't confirmed that for myself. Again, we're all learning this in real time, but that is like that's just like scary.

Yeah. It's like putting this person in physical harm. Like what what's the plan? Is he going to send like go to the room?

Scare her? Do something worse? Yeah. That's that's bad. Um there's an email to Golain Maxwell. Uh there's an email I think that um maybe they think maybe Melania might have written to Galain Maxwell compliment

2002 on an article. So again like this was sort of the height of when Epstein and Trump were buddies. Now again, Democrats are not saved here. Like our former colleague Kathy Rumler is all over these um files sending really flattering emails to Jeffrey Epste that are weird and uncomfortable. Um, Glenn Maxwell has a note to Bill Clinton that references his penis.

Not going to get into more detail. Uh, hung like a horse. Yep, there is that is what it says. Um, so holy Uh, so again, you know, these documents were released way too late. It's probably not all of them. Todd Blanch, the deputy attorney general, said earlier today that 200,000 pages were redacted or withheld, but it feels like

it seems like that's the end, too. Yeah. Like he's not like they're not they're not releasing anything else.

Yeah. I think Rocon and Thomas Massie, the the authors of the legislation that forced this document dump, say they want to go review the unredacted files and make sure that everything they think is in should be in the public domain is. So, I imagine that'll take some time. It'll take some time for journalists to go through this thing. I imagine congressional investigators are like highly focused on this, but

I mean, it's as bad as you uh you think it it would be. And uh with all those mentions of Trump, I'm sure that uh it'll take a couple days for everyone to parse through all of it.

Yeah. So, uh, that's it for this. You know, we'll do, uh, another update when we learn more. Thank you for watching this episode of Pot America. You're on YouTube. Please subscribe because we're going to try to report on this stuff and hold these disgusting people accountable because they are gross. So, uh,

thanks.

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What is "NEW Trump Info In Epstein Files Is EXTREMELY DISTURBING" about?

The recent release of millions of files related to Jeffrey Epstein has revealed alarming connections to Donald Trump, with 3,200 documents mentioning him and a troubling summary from the FBI that includes unverified tips about their relationship. Notably, an Epstein victim reported that Ghislaine Maxwell presented her to Trump, raising significant questions despite the absence of confirmed…

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6 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Secretary Howard Lutnik, Bill Gates, Richard Branson. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

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The episode runs 12 min; the transcript is about 2,406 words in 47 timestamped sections.

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