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Trump and MAGA DESTROYED By HOTTEST PODCAST AWARD SHOW In The World (Pundies 2025)

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Trump and MAGA DESTROYED By HOTTEST PODCAST AWARD SHOW In The World (Pundies 2025)", an episode of Pod Save America published December 23, 2025 (1 h 4 min, about 12,650 words). It mentions 17 people, works and ideas, including John Favro, Gratza, Epstein scandal, Christie Noem, Marjorie Taylor Greene.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Alan Lickman, Dan Feifer, Elijah Conn, Epstein scandal
  2. – 30:00: John Favro
  3. – 40:00: Christy Jackson, Olivia Nuzi
  4. – 50:00: Gratza
  5. – 1:00:00: Epstein scandal, James Carville
  6. – 1:04:06: Epstein scandal

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  • Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Favro.
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  • It was Alan Lickman's 13 was a good one. I feel good about that.
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  • And now the Epstein scandal moves on to the best in show category which we'll revisit at the end. So an inappropriate release about a bunch of inappropriate releases.
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  • That's Christy Jackson. Wow. That's Christy J.
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  • Gracious host or the professional partygo, it's always good to have extra olive oil on hand. Gratza. Gratza said normal is a top-notch olive oil at an affordable everyday…
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  • So, James Carville's op-ed about rolling over and playing.
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Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Favro. I'm John Lovevet. I'm Dan Feifer. I'm Tommy Vtor. And this is the Pundies 2025, which means I'm gonna throw it over to Elijah Conn.

Oh, thank you, John. Lovely throw. Great to be with you guys again for another edition of the PUE. A time to stop and celebrate the last 12 hellacious months in America.

For those listening, not watching, I want to make sure you know that Elijah is wearing a tuxedo and a bow tie. It's a clip on we've decided, but he looks fantastic. You should also subscribe to Pod Save America on YouTube so you can actually see his pretty face.

I mean, yeah. So, you don't have to just imagine Elijah in a tuxedo. Looks great.

Fantastic. I say it looks like if he pulls his arms up, there'll be two symbols attached to each hand.

Well, thank you, Tommy, Dan, and John. Uh, this is the biggest night of the year for me. Uh, a chance to celebrate the pundits. Uh, it's like we've been treading quicksand since January 20th, but only some of us were able to poke our sandy little lips out of the quagmire and speak into existence. A truly brainmelting take. You guys can tell which lines Hi wrote. This year we've had a breath of horrors from the Trump administration. So, we have more than just takes to present you. It's a comprehensive horrifying look back show, but we're going to have fun. As horrifying as it is, we'll have fun. Uh, we're using the dog show format again. And boy, what a bunch of dogs it is. Uh, we'll go through a bunch of categories and at the end we'll have one from that category move on to a chance to win the best in show pundy of 2025.

Now look, I've I know what's coming and I know we're going to have a process fight at some point in this episode. Do you just want to get it out of the way now or let it happen organically?

Just remind us of the rules again. Uh, you go through we're going to go through the categories and you will pick a winner from each category. Then they'll go to the best in show at the very end. Our last thing for pundy of the year

and then we have to come to a conclusion unanimous conclusion like the UN security council or are we voting? What are we doing here?

Yes. Uh consensus and last year the best in show came from the polling category. It was Alan Lickman's 13 was a good one. I feel good about that. Yeah.

I would say Elijah that instead of shadowboxing your perceived critics, why don't we just get into it?

Okay. Well, I look forward to our process fight. And like Jeffrey Epstein said to Bills, Clinton and Gates when his jacuzzi finally reached 100°, are you guys ready to get into it?

Yep. Amazing. Amazing joke. Great job. All right, let's start things off with a bang with a really competitive category. The self-inflicted wound political scandal of the year.

Nice. Good one. Our first nominee is Signalgate. Of course, this was when Atlantic reporter Jeffrey Goldberg was added to a signal chat with several Trump officials discussing plans to bomb Yemen. Here's a dramatic reading of the text discussing Operation Ruff Rider performed by some of our Pod Save America producers.

JD Vance, Pete Hegsth, if you think we should do it, let's go. I just hate bailing out Europe again. Let's just make sure our messaging is tight here. And if there are things we can do upfront to minimize risk to Saudi oil facilities, we should do it. Pete Hegth VP, I fully share your loathing of European freeloading. It's pathetic. But Mike is correct. We are the only ones on the planet on our side of the ledger who can do this. No one else is even close. Michael Waltz fist emoji. American flag emoji.

All right, I think we got it. I think we got it. Next up, we have Trump's ballroom gate. Seemingly out of nowhere, Trump announced that he was demolishing the east wing of the White House to build a massive ballroom. This one is ongoing and the latest update is that Trump has fired his original architect because that architect said the ballroom should be smaller than what Trump wanted and that the project is already over budget and behind schedule. Next up, we have Kimmelgate

when the Trump administration pressured ABC and its affiliates to pull Jimmy Kimmel off the air. Here's FCC chair Brennan Carr talking about this openly with Benny Johnson.

I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. these companies can find ways to change conduct to take action frankly uh on Kimmel or you know there's going to be additional work for the FCC.

Tough tough talk. It's good you said Kimmel. I thought you said Camelgate at first. I was like what was Camelgate?

Yeah. Little known Saudi thing. This of course had a huge blowback and Kimmel is still on the air. Uh and last of course we have the Epstein Files. The year started off with the administration inviting a bunch of influencers to the White House to pose with binders of the Epstein files. They promised a bigger release only to backtrack and say they weren't going to release anything. Dan Bonino roided out and almost rage quit the FBI. The rest of the year has been a steady drip of emails and documents implicating Trump and his friends in the files culminating an embarrassing vote to release them. Here's a dramatic reading of a note that Donald Trump wrote to Jeffrey Epstein.

Voice over. There must be more to life than having everything. Donald, yes, there is. But I won't tell you what it is.

Oh my god. What the? Nor will I since I also know what it is. We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.

Yes, we do. Come to think of it. Enigmas never age. Have you noticed that? As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.

Trump's pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday. May every day be another. What is it? Smeaggle. Why is it Why is it Why is it turning into Gollum in Lord of the Rings?

Listen, I'm going to say this. I mean it. Hey, do not quit your day job. I like a big swing. I like a big swing.

I really appreciate that. Really appreciate that. Is that the full category? That's the full category. Self-inflicted political scandal. I feel like at the at the end of the day, this was not very competitive at all. Epste Yeah, we have a group chat that went ary and a and a year-long scandal involving the covering up of a sex trafficking ring. Yeah, I'm going to go with the ladder.

All were bad scandals, but yeah, I agree. It's you got to hand it to to Mr. Epstein. Speaking of ballroom, remember when manspreading was like a big issue that was always written about and like style pieces?

How long have you had the balls room man spreading joke in your 30 seconds? God, I didn't even

Tommy's got his laptop. So, we're still going to get random. Uh, did you start trying?

Did you manspread someone once and get trouble for it on the line? Did I manspread someone?

Yeah, I think so. Not that I remember. So, I just want to zero in on this on who's responsible for the scandal here. You said Mr. This is a Pam Bond. This is Pam Bondi scandal, right? This is not even Donald Trump's scandal because if she hadn't dropped the binder, the initial binder with all the influencers that invited them to the White House, given them a binder, it still would have been brought up, I'm sure, at some point. But don't you think that if they looked into it and realized like, oh, there's not much more we can put out or Trump's in some of this stuff that like it might have gone differently for them.

Yeah, counter factual, but yeah, I've just there's several junctures here. There's JD Vance declaring on Theo Von's podcast that all the files should come out.

Important part Trump allowing people around him to keep calling for it all the way up and through the election and then Pam Bonnie deciding to release portions of without actually looking at what was in the files.

But that was like that was probably the most the key moment that put us on this path.

But she definitely I I was ready to say that um uh up until I heard Epstein of course Brendan Carr would have been my next uh my next nominee.

I would have gone Signal. I would have gone Signal Gate. Really? Yeah, I would have said but what's interesting is we all I would have said ballroom only because

yeah mattered a lot the the ongoing the thing is that's going to continue and if he can't like build anything it's like going to take longer than he thinks it's just going to be a kind of ongoing little kind of motif throughout the next year or two.

I thought about Brennan Carr because it's like uh again they could have potentially gotten what they wanted had he not been so stupid to say that out loud on Benny Johnson's

Yeah. But nothing happened. Jimmy Kimmel. Jim, we missed like three episodes of Jimmy Kimmel when we were back.

Yeah. Right. But would they have I mean just for the sheer stupidity of Signal Kate, there are 300 million people in America and the one person they accidentally add to the group chat about bombing Yemen is the editor of the Atlantic who's written more stories.

It is so funny. Disclosures of Trump and national security than almost anyone else.

Yeah. And I'm thinking the guy who did because we just focused on Hegathth. I forgot that Hexath isn't the one who added them, right?

Mike Waltz got frog marched out of the White House sent to New York. But Hexath made it much worse by having that group chat having other group chats on his personal phone where he was sharing the sort of

It's clear that like everyone in the government now is they're all on signal. Oh yeah, that's long gone.

Foy is dead among the dead anyway. Stomping on the P. The P that Well, uh Jeff Pam Bondi accepts uh on behalf of Jeff Epstein. We don't do awards here in the parties. And

do we know that's true? Yeah. And uh now now the Epstein scandal moves on to the best in show category which we'll revisit at the end. So

an inappropriate release about a bunch of inappropriate releases. Oh, tough. Tough.

Let that breathe or don't. Let's move on to our next category. fluffer of the year for worst Trump administration official.

It was more of a it was a motif on instead of choose your fighter, choose your fluffer in terms of the cabinet meetings, the lavish praise, embarrassing.

Are we judging them on their obsequiousness? Well, I don't know. We'll find out.

I guess that's a good point. Yeah, you guys can choose style, obquousness, negative impact on the country. So many great sick.

First up, we have Pete Hexath. He's weirdly obsessed with appearances. gave some weird speeches about our generals being fat.

We did Signal Gate already and now he's allegedly committed several war crimes.

Here's a recent tweet responding to those allegations. It's the children's character Franklin the Turtle shooting an RPG at a bunch of boats.

Cool. Pete, next up is Christy Noom. There's so many clips we could play of Christine Nom. tough category.

Took content in front of COD and awkwardly pointed a gun at an ICE agent during a video she released. But I like this video. Welcome to the team, recruits. I'm Christine Gnome, head of Homeland Security.

She seems nice. Okay. Very pretty. A few years ago, I had to put my puppy down by shooting it in the face. Because sometimes doing what's important means doing what's hard. We we could just stop it. We could just We don't have to watch the whole thing.

So much dog murder. It's so funny that that's the runner for her. That Well, and South Park was really good this season. That was probably the funniest bit. Uh next up, we have Steven Miller.

Uh he has amassed a ton of power in the administration. He plays significant roles in both DHS and DOJ and in crafting domestic policy. He's also awful on TV and spouts white nationalist talking points. Here's a clip of both.

So, you see with a lot of these immigrant groups, not only is the first generation unsuccessful, again, Somalia is a clear example here. Not only is the first generation unsuccessful, but you see persistent issues in every subsequent generation. So, you see consistent high rates of welfare use, consistent high rates of criminal activity, consistent failures to assimilate. But this shouldn't be a surprise, Will. It's just common sense.

Will Kane is so stupid. By the way, also if this is the uh the way we're going to judge people, I think we should lock up your parents, Stephen Miller.

Okay, for doing generational punishment. Yeah, because they committed generational punishment on the rest of us. We're all have to deal with this.

Next up, we have JD Vance. Look, Vance sucks. We've talked about it ad nauseium. Uh, here he is discussing fully employed adult Republican staffers celebrating Hitler and being super racist in private group chats as performed by a producer.

JD Vance voice. I really don't want us to grow up in a country where a kid telling a stupid joke telling a very offensive stupid joke is caused to ruin their lives.

That video exists. We don't need like we're not Why is he like a a valley girl kind of vibe? We don't.

And also, by the way, when you're reading a script, you don't read the the name every time. It's everyone's reading the name and then the line. You just do the lines. It's a scene.

We're right up against it for recording. Uh, tough category. We have one more I think that we should I'm going to I'm going to skip Cash cuz Cash is so funny, but I don't think he's going to be the worst. Round it out with RFK Jr. who has done unbelievable damage at HHS. He's rolled back vaccine mandates and has done more damage just by disparaging them. Here's a weirdass clip of him talking about Tylenol.

There's also just there's many many other confirmation studies. One of there's two studies that show children who are circumcised early and double the rate of autism. It's highly likely because they're given Tylenol. So, you know, none of this is is positive, but it's not stuff that we should be paying attention to. I would say I never noticed Doug Bergam in that clip looking. He's like he's like

I think you're talking about baby penises. No one wanted to um read RFK. Yeah, I was going to say no voice for RFK.

Missed opportunity. Wow. Cowards. Not in your repertoire. People just speak through a fan.

Okay. So, how do we judge this one? Like in terms of aggregate deaths, I think RFK is going to be the winner, you know, long term. But is this a lifetime achievement award or is this a this year category?

I I I will make I know what you're gonna say. I'll make the case for Steven Miller because he cuz his wife's podcast sucks. Yeah. Right. That's number one because he controls everything cuz he he has the where do you think the boat strikes idea came from? Steven Miller in 2018. Where do you think everything bad that Christine M has been doing came from? Steven Miller. So like he he is the most powerful person in the administration who is not Donald Trump and does and is behind all the bad things. So that's my case for Stephen Miller.

Yeah, I agree with that. I look maybe not maybe RFK Junior's doing his own thing. So I guess that could be an exception there. But

I think RFK is a kind of singular bad actor who didn't need to be as bad, right? You can imagine a bunch of other people having gotten that job like had had uh the Olivia Nutsy story broke, you know, a couple months or like there's a whole bunch of paths in which we have someone slightly less terrible at at HHS. But

American different though American don't Yeah, those who uh those who Kanto teach uh uh but uh yeah, but it like gnome you could swap out and some other person will be in there executing what Miller wants, right? Like a lot of people could leave and the the machine would still turn. I think I agree. It's it's Miller.

I Yeah, I think that's probably right. And JD Vance has had many opportunities to win this award.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and also he just he's just a poster. He doesn't have any real power.

I'm going to zag and say Cash Patel because his climate footprint from all those FBI plane uses got to be through the roof.

Well, then Taylor Swift is the worst part of the administration by that standard. I don't think that's fair.

Okay, we didn't get we didn't even get to hear Cash Patel as a nominee. Yeah, you don't want to hear that voice. As read by,

I'm entitled to a personal life just like my other agency counterparts with their partners. Do I support my girlfriend? Absolutely. Do I take trips with her? Absolutely.

The was that? That was my that you Hey, by the way, you know what? You know what? Everybody go listen. That was performance.

That was somebody. He didn't just read the lines. He brought something to it. There was an there was a character behind it that was excellent. He inhabited Cash Patel.

He did. He did. Are we warming up to these intense performances? Yeah, we're loving it.

We're warming up to the voice audience is going to just adore this. Mike, I'm impressed.

Binary. The rest of these sounds like Stephen Miller's our winner, huh? Yeah, Steven Miller. Congratulations, Steven Miller. Let's move on to the next category. Republican beef is just like a real hamburger. Bloody raw. And Marjorie Taylor Green is going to push Mike Johnson through a meat grinder to make it.

Oh my god. Here are the nominees for best political beef. Best political beef of 2025. First up, god, I like this category. We have Elon Musk versus Donald Trump. Elon Musk crashed out at the White House. He got into a physical brawl with soybean farmer Scott Bessant. Doge largely failed. He left and then went on a bit of a PR spiral, posting the following about Donald Trump. Time to drop the really big bomb at real Donald Trump

is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.

Okay. Okay. Got it. Trump responded by threatening to end government contracts with Mus companies. Next up, we have Scott Bessant vers Bill Py

at a fancy dinner hosted by All-inch Chima. Things got heated between Scott Besson and mortgage fraud fanatic Bill Py. Here's a dramatic reading of an abbreviated version of the confrontation between real.

Why the are you talking to the president about me? you. I'm going to punch you in your face. We could go outside.

Py to do what? To talk. Bessant. No, I'm going to beat your ass. They're reading the name. What? What was happening?

It's like you're in the room. Turn to camera exterior. It's like lobby. It's like Chuck Schumer with the Democratic Messaging Clan.

Good stuff. There are many more dramatic readings. So, wow. G your loins, everyone.

Next up, we have Marjorie Taylor Green verse Donald Trump. Marjorie Taylor Green went against the president several times, culminating in her announcing her retirement from Congress at the end of the term. She felt sorry for the president, or so she said, and he gave her a nickname. Here is a dramatic reading of one of Trump's truths about her.

Lightweight Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Brown grass turns brown when it begins to rot, betrayed the entire Republican party when she turned left, performed poorly on the pathetic view, and became the rhino that we all know she always was. just another fake politician. Then Rand Paul Jr., Thomas Massie, who was caught again being a full-fledged Republican in name only. Rhino, make America great again.

That is you, Ryan, right? Yeah, of course. Okay. Thank you. Well, I know you were playing. You've been playing a couple people, so I just want to

Yeah. No, I Well, because I think in that one it was um one of the people he was playing it was Pennywise the clown. I heard some of that.

I thought we got Alec Baldwin to do it. Really good. Some real 2017 SNL. Just setting a note to myself for my notes for next year's Bundies.

Last, let's get some Democrats into the mix. Andrew Cuomo versus Zoron Mani. This kind of went beyond the campaign when Cuomo decided to enter the general as an independent after he lost to Montani in the primary. Cuomo ran all kind of racist Islamophobic ads against Montani. And here's how Montani said goodbye to Cuomo after HIS VICTORY.

WISH ANDREW CUOMO ONLY THE BEST IN PRIVATE LIFE. BUT LET TONIGHT BE THE FINAL TIME I UTTER HIS NAME.

RYAN, good job with mom. Yeah, that was great. Your best sound just like him. Good job.

Then he took a big on Cuomo's dad, too, later in that speech. That was a good one.

That rounds out the category. Who do you guys like for best beef? That's really hard.

It's funny because the the the Scott Bessant versus Bill Py was my favorite in terms of the humor of it.

Uh it's also like the most purely WW. He literally threatened to punch him. Also, Scott Besson getting in multiple altercations also with Elon.

Yeah. Yeah. Didn't see him as the fighter in this administration. Listen, you want to be a

Don't with a farmer. I'll tell you that. Don't with a gay guy from New Orleans. Having rehashed the Trump Elon beef though, that was a big one.

Yeah, it was a big beef and it did get pretty like Trump's in the Epstein files turned out to be true.

Yeah. Um that was a pretty big one. But you're right that it's it's more I'm between Bessant Py in that one. I feel like I feel like the MTG Trump one was too civil,

but also probably the most significant. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting.

The breakup with Elon's pretty significant. But they're back but they're back together again. They're back together. But like the first three, four, five months of the administration was defined by Elon Musk. He was like a shadow president. Doge was everything and now he's just

gone. All right, I'm with that. I'm with that. Okay, we can do it. We should do Elon now.

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Next category. We're up to our groins in beef this year. So, we took some extra time in the kitchen to whip up a secondary beef category. Best Pod Save America host public fight with a Trump administration personality.

Wonder who's going to be leading this category. Let's take a look at this diverse group of nominees. First up, John Favro vers Elon Musk in a dispute over USA ID. Musk called John quote dollar store John Favro.

Next up we have John versin Chimamoth. Uh in a dispute over the legality of SECOT. Chimoth called John quote probably not a total arsur who should brush up on his con law.

Arsur the word. saying it on the pod. I've seen oh rur the thing that all those Republicans fought to be able to say

it was like ar like a rish over here uh was community noted for not knowing the constitution. Uh next we have

John Favro again verse Steven Miller. Steven called Jon's objections to his immigration policies quote shocking and heartless because in their view John is on the side of murderers, rapists, etc. Right. True. Yeah. Got you there. Got your number. Yeah.

Oh, John Favro again versus Megan Kelly. Uh about Sydney Sweeny's jeans to not waiting on that one.

That was a low moment for you. Yeah, it was a low moment for you. The rest I'm on board, but that one made me a little sad. Okay, what's the next one? What do you mean? It was a good one.

You'll never believe. This is the last one. You'll never believe it's John Favro versus JD Vance. Dispute about Vance's fast and loose way of reporting information. Vance called John.

Oh, you won that one for. That was a great one. That was a great one. So, you get a New York Times story out of it.

Fatality. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that's the goal. That's why we more media. Tweet your way times.

I'm glad you found your calling as opposed to Well, last year's New Year's resolution was to post more. You shockingly turned out to be What this who who knows what what should I'm taking I'm taking suggestions for you director resolutions carefully.

I think back to around like 2018 we were on a flight somewhere and we were red ste

you got we got off the plane we were like we were rushing to get to our to get to our show and John stopped because he had to respond to someone called Red Ste's

and that was a little moment and then you backed away from the wars. Well I blocked Red Ste's

he wasn't he wasn't retreating also named Steven Miller I Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's never Steen Miller. Stephen Miller.

Tell me name. So I think it's Vance. I think that's called you a is great. The vice you the vice president says call you That's impressive.

Mhm. Nice. I don't know if it's impressive. Pretty sure Joe Biden said that about all of us behind closed doors.

Yeah. There's some AOL where he's doing it. And his son did it quite publicly. Publicly. Yeah. Yeah.

Donald Trump is like the HBO series The Last of Us. Barely watchable after the first season. I haven't watched second season, but I like that joke. Also, he some sees some sort of hideous fungus sprouting more and more moments of moral decay across our political landscape. Uh, which of the following is 2025's most corrupt corrupt date?

Stacked. Uh, first up, there's the Qatari jet. Earlier this year, Trump accepted a massive plane from Cutter to be used alongside Air Force One. It could cost taxpayers over a billion dollars after it's reoutfitted. Uh here's Trump talking about the plane.

I think it's a great gesture from Qar. I appreciate it very much. I would never be one to turn down that kind of an offer. I mean, I could be a stupid person say no, we don't want a free very expensive airplane. Can I sit here for a second?

Just take me inside. What was the thinking in which live video to have a producer read and which to use the live video? Uh most of the live videos we had like we went with the live video and then some we couldn't find the live video at the time so we were like well this will be a good producer read and look last year the producer we reads they were just straight reads. They were great. Now we've veered into some theater I'm not sure I'm comfortable with.

Okay. Got it. Just throwing your colleagues under the bus right here live on the podcast.

We under the bus a lot. What a safe space for drama. What a safe space for actors to bring their best selves. Elijah you piece of do the next thing.

Next up is Trump's World Liberty Financial Venture. This crypto venture that uh the Trump family runs. It's just a vehicle for corruption. One example this year is that a Chinese billionaire named Justin Sun bought $75 million worth of World Liberty financial tokens shortly after the SEC stopped investigating Sun's companies.

So, is this category all crypto? All World Liberty stuff? No, no, no. We're we're going to jump to some other stuff now. Uh, which is corrupting the DOJ.

No, I'm saying the last one, the World Liberty one. Is that Does that encompass all the crypto scams?

Trumpcoin, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, crypto scams. Uh, next up we have corruption at the DOJ. Trump is using the DOJ to go after people he doesn't like, like Tis James and James Comey. On the other side of that, he's pardoning a bunch of people who are loyal to him, like the January 6 writers for crimes they didn't even commit during January 6, a crypto mogul and Binance founder CZ, and the Chryslies. a reality uh show family. Uh here's Trump talking about pardoning CZ.

CZ had caused significant harm to US national security essentially by allowing terrorist groups like Hamas to move millions of dollars around. Why did you pardon him?

Okay, are you ready? I don't know who he is. It's just that would have been for a great group. We had Norah's voice, but then Ryan played

Can Ryan also do a good Nora? I've heard it. It's really strong. Uh, and last up is ask kissing and knee bending. We have ABC and CBS settling suits for millions of dollars. Law firms and universities bending the knee. CEOs like Tim Cooks giving weird little gifts with gold on them. And recently, FIFA created a peace prize and just gave it to Trump uh ahead of the 2026 World Cup. Here's a clip of that.

We saved millions and millions of lives. India, Pakistan, so many different wars that were able to end in some cases a little bit before they started. Just right before they started. It was going to be late, but we got them done.

We were able to end some wars before they started. It's It's just so triggering.

Uh so which which is the most corrupt? I know some of them are specific instances, some of them are more broad trends of corruption,

right? Especially because the crypto corruption includes the pardons. It's all one one in the same.

There's the crypto, there's the pardons. In some of the pardons, there's crypto, but like it's pardons, right? So, it's pardons versus

political prosecution. So, it's pardons versus crypto versus what was the first one? Oh, the jet

versus political prosecutions and nonprosecutions. Oh, and the and the folding.

Oh, the folding. The the bending the Yeah. I don't think it should be the folding.

No, I agree. Because that's really more like a necessarily corruption. Sherry L Sherry Redstone scandal,

right? And that's a that's a calculus based on the corruption that Trump has. You can disagree with the calculus and the the mistake of it, but they're reacting to a very real thing.

I kind of feel like it's crypto. Yeah. I mean, the Qatari jet is the current, I think, biggest ticket item, but that we know of. But the crypto, I think, is the most systemic ongoing avenue for corruption that includes like getting paid off by, you know, the Amiradis in exchange for AI chips. like the truly buying and selling of US national security. I will say the most egregious example of corruption in terms of Donald Trump just stealing directly from taxpayers is the Justice Department um lawsuit. Trump Trump suing Trump Trump suing the government and and Trump in in the government role deciding he's going to settle with himself

which if he had done that he had actually done it because he has done he had got the money yet so when he gets the money in put on the list

honorable mention I would say crypto otherwise I don't agree I think it is the DOJ I think it's the corruption of the DOJ the use of pardons the political prosecutions because

all these all these other thing they're all bad they're all enabled by like it is not possible for him to be bribed without a DOJ that's not going to look into anything and without a Congress that's not going to look into anything but the the DOJ is the kind of core of the rot if right now Pam Bondi was replaced by Eric Holder and he was in that role it would they would all be have they would have to behave differently I think it's the DOJ of the roster so we got to vote so who votes crypto

I'll vote crypto who votes um what lever love it just said COJ I think I'm going to go Qatari Jet.

So you guys win. Well, should we go to runoff? No, no, no. You got I think two two two one to one advantage.

All right, great. No rank choice. Void. No range cho. it. All right, cut that. Leave it in.

Leave it in. Next category. Every week at this company, I crawl out of the scorching sands of the Magga Desert, searching desperately for one tiny drop of living out to keep me alive. It was a real Dune situation this year, but we squeezed out a few drops. Open your mouths to wet your whistle for these for the most lib outable moments of 2025. They were pretty few and far between and a lot of them were Zoran Mum Donnie. But first up, we have Gavin Newsome starting to tweet like Donald Trump. It's been nearly a decade of people trying to figure this out. How to counter Trump on social media. Hats off to Gavin for kind of figuring it out. Here is a read.

Oh no. One of his tweets from a Bot Save America producer. Blow my brains out before this happens. Fox hates that I'm America's favorite governor, ratings king, saving America. While Trump can't even conquer the big stairs on Air Force One anymore, Fox is losing it because when I type through a boom box,

a very teen tiny speaker shouting. Well, the the the post is in all caps to be fair.

No, thank you. Pick that up. Austin, did you did Austin do high school theater?

No. No. Okay, the answer was no. Yeah, seems clear. Next up is Zon's primary win. Mdani completed one of the most innovative and interesting campaigns in recent memory uh to defeat Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic primary for New York City mayor. Uh we have a clip of him kicking off his campaign by interviewing people on the street, but I don't think it's going to translate that well to audio, so let's skip it. We've all seen it. It's a great clip. He ran a great campaign. That primary was cool.

Next up is just election night 2025. We won everything. So we're on in New York, Spanberger and Cheryl in Virginia and New Jersey. We flipped those commission seats in Georgia. California got Yeah, California got redistricting. That was awesome. We really needed it. And last, we had this nice little moment of Zoran Mandani visiting Trump at the White House. Here's a clip.

Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist? I've spoken about

That's okay. You can just say okay. It's easier. It's easier than explaining it. I don't mind.

That wasn't living out. That was Trump's moment. You know what I was going to say? It's comforting to know that no matter how much the four of us may like Zoran Mamani, our staff at Crooked is always going to glaze him just a little bit harder.

Yeah, you're now three of the four. I think you said glazing in four of the last nine podcasts.

Um I think it's I think it's the off year. It's election night. It's a runaway. Best night of the year.

Yeah. I mean, look, it was not a great year for Living Out. What What What other moments were there?

Uh Crooked Con. Jesus was cool. Unbelievable. You know what the the Indiana redistricting uh redistricting loss that Trump just was served was pretty big.

Yeah. The FC files release vote. That was good. Yeah. I want to attack the whole premise of the year being hellacious and not a mo like I you know Trump right Trump came in like a lion leaves like a lap. You know it's like things he's he came in fast and hard that caught us all off guard. But I feel like we end we end the year a little bit

better place than how it started. What what a man spreading things things better than how they started this year. We'll get to most horrifying Trump moment of the year

for sure. Maybe we'll look back at how many category how many categories we have left.

We have we can we can skip I'm just I'm asking I'm asking. No, we look we had a production meeting about like hey is 12 too many categories?

There's no judgment in my question. Don't be so defensive. I'm just there's a numerical answer.

There was something behind that question. Be honest. Okay. Most irritating discourse of the year perennial favorite. Uh let's start off strong with abundance and Ezra Klein in general.

This year saw Ezra and Derek Thompson's book transform from a suggestion of some reforms into according to some uh a straightup embrace of eugenics.

John did three tours in the abundance wars. I have a purple heart. He threw He threw it over the fence back. He threw it over the over the fence. A cat, you know, spit on you.

Next discourse. Next discourse. The main Senate primary. Yeah, obviously Grand to a bunch of platiner bros. Yep. Yep.

Uh next we're going to skip the Texas Senate primary cuz that's bad discourse that's just getting started matured. No bad discourse there. Uh next we have Sydney Sweeny's jeans ad. This was

the kind of quintessential woke is dead, woke is alive discourse of the year. And at one point Donald Trump himself uh weighed in saying that he loves Sydney Sweeney. Jeans are flying off the shelf. She has the hottest ad on the market. This this went for months.

Next up, we have that one clip about Joe Biden from Crooked Con and the Jake Tapper, Alex Thompson book and all the continuing zombie discourse about Biden dropping out. Here's a clip of a pro Biden influencer talking about Crooked Con. I I just saw the most ludicrous thing I've saw seen in a long time. And that's that their main theme of their little event that they had over the weekend was that anybody wanting to run as a Democrat in 26 or 28 has to distance themselves from the Biden years. Really, you know, most Democrats think that Joe Biden was one hell of a president, and most historians agree with that, too. In fact, last year he was ranked 14th best.

That's Christy Jackson. Wow. That's Christy J. often frequent tweeter long time.

And last up we have Olivia Nuzi and Ryan Liza. Basically, it's remind me what is

most irritating discourse. Uh, I'm For me personally, it's um abundance because the stakes couldn't be lower. It's endless.

Oh, someone doesn't care about housing stock. It's just so pedantic and boring. I could not care less.

You think the stakes could be lower in a category that includes Ryan Liza and Olivia Nun?

I'm just saying the stakes of this argument, abundance versus anti-abundance, people mad at a book versus a book. I the stakes couldn't be lower. It's like, who gives a

Tommy cares about journalism, integrity, and the mass head divinity fair. Like, I'm not saying the Sydney Sweeney gene discourse is higher stakes. I'm just saying all of it is stupid. I'm I agree with Tommy, not for the the stakes thing, but just because it is the most annoying to me for sure. It's the most annoying

and it's not the fault of Ezra and Derek at all. It is the fault of the left. It's not even a little extra poke there. There you go. The most of the criticisms have been completely insane and grounded in nothing.

Yeah, I think that's certainly true. Yeah, I just think the Sydney Sweeney thing was stupider

and bigger. Bigger. Yeah, but it was it's just sort of fun. I I for some reason I thought it was

the Disney thing to me is like total kayfabe. It's manufactured. It's like it's like plugandplay culture war. The abundance thing was genuine and crazy and like so angry. I'm like what are you nerds fighting about? Please stop.

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Straight out of Arkham Asylum, it's Batman's Nemesis. If they were all tedious, unfuckable losers. That's right. It's the worst MAGA media figure of the year. Nice.

Wow. I like I like that joke. All right. First up, Katie Miller. She's Steven Miller's wife and a horrible podcaster.

He inserted a line that says the Miller. IS THAT NOT CODED LANGUAGE? Or therefore, we are Jewish.

Come on, Beers. Where are you? Where are you standing? HEY GOD, YOU'RE SO IF I can all the pograms were disgusting.

Next up is Benny Johnson. Benny Johnson was already featured in the self-inflicted wound segment and he had an awful clip in front of Alligator Alcatraz.

3 2 1 Welcome to Alligator Alcatres. I'm getting swarmed by mosquitoes right now and we saw at least 30 alligators on our way in driving. And there you go, ladies and gentlemen. As far as the eye can see, you go in, you don't come out.

Next up is Tucker Carlson, Tommy's pal. He had an up and down move where he ripped apart Ted Cruz in one of the most satisfying interviews ever, showing that he's capable of doing that.

And then gave the softest, gentle embrace of neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes. Let's take a listen.

Just to clear up one of the many theories about you. I have no idea what the answer is, and you haven't got to answer, but are you actually attracted to women? I am attracted to women.

You're not gay. No. But I will say that women are very difficult to be around. Okay.

So, there's that. And do you think they should have the right to vote? I do not. No. Absolutely not.

They should stay at home. Well, yeah. Absolutely. So, basically, you're just a misogynist old dinosaur, aren't you? Have you ever had sex?

No. Absolutely not. Wow. says a guy who never got laid. Uh Nick Fuentes himself, he's a gross neo-Nazi racist anti-semite misogynist, and he had a huge ear, unfortunately. And if you dig into it a little bit, he's just a huge loser. Here's a rare interview where he didn't get sucked off the whole time by the interview.

Jesus Christ. Well, well said. And last is Candace Owens. She's currently at the center of the MAGA media civil war for pushing conspiracies about Charlie Kirk's death. She's also getting sued by the president and first lady of France for repeatedly claiming that the first lady is a man. Here's a clip of Candace Owens with one of the Tate brothers.

Is not a coincidence that Justin Trudeau is gay. Obama gay, Zalinski gay. Emanuel Mcronone gay and married to a trans man who molested him when he was a child. And that despite the overwhelming evidence like I for me the litmus test now is like Bridget Mcronone. Like I if you want to figure out who is a fraud in media, there's no way to read that six- part series and go through it and come out of it being like no totally legit like this. These are just rumors. It's like one picture of yourself in your first 30 years of living. Please. And they

show me her brother. Where's your brother? Where is I'll show you my I'll show you my brother.

This is a tough category. So it's the Is it the worst? What is the What is the category? The

overall worst. Overall worst. Okay. Okay. So, if it's just like worst impact in the world, it's probably Nick Fuentes right?

Yeah. I would argue like Nick Fuentes being dragged into the mainstream sort of MAGA discourse or even Pierce Morgan is like one of the worst things that's happened in a long time.

Yeah, it can't be Katie Miller. No, having a bad podcast is not really the worst thing you can do.

Benny's been a tool forever. Tucker's been Tucker forever. Candace Candace is she genuinely lost her mind.

Yeah, but I think that like she's lost her mind so much that she's getting kind of cordoned off. I think hasn't lost his mind which is the problem.

Yeah. I think it's between for me Tucker and Nick Fuentes because Tucker is also kind of acting as like kind of a a gateway to this

and he has more and I do think he still has more reach. So I might say Tucker but I'm fine either way.

I think Nick Fuentes Fuentes. Okay. Fuentes. Fuentes wins. I get what you're saying. Love it. I was thinking Tucker needs to go in because he kind of is a big part of Fuentes's rise this year.

Yeah, he definitely was. All right. This is a downer one. Worst Trump moment of the year. Just gonna whip through them. There are so many bad ones, but like what was actually like his worst moment of the year? We'll try.

Worst for the country, right? Yeah. Or for the world. For the world, but not like worse. Not worse for him. Yeah.

Uh ambushing Zalinsky at the White House. Number one. Uh Secott and Alligator Alcatraz and his prisons. Uh sending troops to American cities like DC and Chicago. Uh Doge and cutting USA ID. And as we noted before, basically everything with vaccines, which we don't know how big that's going to be.

This is tough. Huh. This is really hard. I don't think it's Solinsky. No. And I don't think it

I mean, the USAD stuff has probably has led to the most death. Yeah, I think so, too. I think it's a combination of it being the most destructive just on the kind of on the numbers plus the kind of socializing us to like a lawless administration that doesn't have to distribute the money Congress has spent and turning that into like an actual debate and allowing Trump to uh use it as a cudel in government shutdowns. I think all in all that has been the most dangerous thing he's done.

Yeah. I just think it's it's tough though because the the abuse in Secott and Aliggary Alcatraz and all that has been quite significant, but it's not death.

None of these are good. None of them are good. Let's vote on USA. And he got turned back on the CCOT thing.

USA. They are out. Yeah, USAD. Okay. Okay. USA ID. And now for our pen ultimate or the last category before we get to best in show, worst take by Save America host. You guys have graciously offered to self-report yourselves after you guys got so defensive about your bad takes last year.

They weren't bad. Uh uh. Are you ready? John Fabro, you're up first. Oh well, this was hard because my takes were awesome. Um so I think my overall take that the government shutdown should have been about

Damn it. Uh no, I mean did you That was mine too. that it should have been about you. You thought it should be about healthcare.

No, no, no, no. I I thought I you wrote an entire essay, so you you deserve this category.

It was more than a tweet. Uh yeah. No, I thought it was should not be about healthcare. I thought it should be about sort of like the whether the something in the authoritarian category, the

everything bagel, the ICE detention, the mostly around immigration. I was hoping for something around immigration and um no, that was bad. I was going to do a correlary and it's more controversial, but like I also think uh that they reopen the government at the right time.

Oh, interesting. I think that I the criticism is that I think that your your your really bad take is they opened at the wrong time or your bad take was that they did open the wrong time?

My bad take was the criticism of the time that like oh the Democrats caved and this is the worst thing ever blah blah blah. It's like I actually think that it was if we were in a I don't think they would have gotten anything else um by waiting any longer. And I think right now the the worst thing that has happened from the government shutdown and them reopening the government is not getting what they wanted what we wanted on healthcare which I don't think that was would have changed anyway. And I think politically any argument that it was bad politically is just now proven to be wrong because uh Democrats have only done better and Republicans have only done worse since the shutdown. I think you can also by the way add this this was going to be a subset for me. I think you can also add that we all were like oh and all you got was a vote on subsidies and I actually do think the political value of getting

that vote on subsidies turned out to be more than we thought right everyone like oh it's just a vote what could it do but it actually like turned into a whole political moment in which they had to come up with an alternative to put it against it like it ended up actually being a bigger deal to get that vote than I think people acknowledged at the time myself included.

Yeah. Who's up next? John Love it. So, uh, I had a feeling we were going to talking about the shutdown and so I I I I did the healthcare being the right path for the shutdown, I think was something I came to late as in today. And, uh, but what I was going to say is this was actually I like uh uh I remember when mom Donnie announced and I actually was having a this is I'm just earning points inside my relationship where Ari was like, "Mom Donnie is going to do really well. I really think he can win. And I remember feeling really nervous. It was like, oh this is the person they're going to put up against Cuomo.

Like Cuomo sucks. Like he's gonna like that makes me really nervous that someone like Cuomo is going to be able to win. And I was too and I was too cynical.

Can I follow on that? Cuz mine is uh adjacent to that. Mine wasn't in like a tweet. It was in a meeting. I think we all talked about whether we should book Sarin Mani in a meeting and I was like, "No, this guy's never going to win. There's a thousand people in that race and then we're going to have to have all of them on. No one wants to interview Andrew Cuomo because he's a total piece of And in hindsight, uh, not the best take since, especially if like I've been paying attention to the race, I would have known that Andrew Cuomo was doing zero interviews. Um, and that wouldn't have been an issue.

So related. So my original take was John's take was I think I was your take was it should be on these things

and my take was that making it just about healthcare was a mistake. I disagree with that choice. Uh

yeah, I guess I agree with you and yeah, I was it was more Yeah. Um like I understood why they did it, but I thought that was a strategic error. I was sort of in the Chris Murphy camp there. That's where

and I that was 100% wrong. Idiots. They were they were right. The Schumer and Jeffre were 100% right about that. And like all the data shows that they've made healthcare affordability a highly salient issue, which is a very

like just changing the direction of the issue conversation in America is almost impossible for party the minority and they did it. So full kudos to them. So I think my other take is that I'm doing this on the fly here but where I was wrong earlier in this year is like I and you and I have had the conversation this conversation many times on the pod but being very sort of dismissive of the people who are saying affordability affordability affordability that like that had the like the sort of the data nerd argument message testing that affordability is a thing and my argument against it was like yes obviously everyone cares about affordability but it's sort of impossible to make affordability the central issue in politics

because it's not a it's not the sort of culture identity issue that drives discourse and so that's why always the immigration stuff

the you know just the general authoritarian anti-democracy stuff always trended more on social got more coverage but like Mandani showed that you can if you are smart and good make affordability the signature issue and the shutdown showed that if you are smart and good you can make affordability the central issue and that we have to instead of being so dismissive of the idea that you can't sort of make like alter the political weather is we have to be more aggressive and think about how to actually alter the political weather and make the issues we care about front and center. I will say we got a huge uh boost there from Donald Trump himself because had you not if you did not have the uh insane Trump corruption,

the tariffs, the big beautiful bill um and uh refusing to extend the Obamacare subsidies. I don't know that you could have made affordability in a national issue as big as Madani obviously could have in New York because it's a smaller race. But

yeah, I mean obviously you got like you have to we had some real help as well. You have to operate in the in the political environment around you, but basically Democrats were able to make Trump change his message and just like step on a rake repeatedly talking about affordability for like a month now. And that's a pretty impressive thing.

Yeah. On September 14th, I tweeted Drake May is good but the Patriots are not. Um, the Patriots are now 11 and2, number one in the AFC East, and tied for the best record in the AFC.

Are we doing bad sports takes? Cuz I got a lot. I just bought another 11 and Tommy both did bad takes that are private that did they didn't even go with public takes.

Well, I I I would say that like I we we all know that was a good public take. I mean, that's public now.

That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm glad you I figured we were going up talking about the shutdown. And I think like whatever though, like we we wait if you back and listen to we we thought through every single side, I think we're like pretty kind of even-handed about the whole thing. But I think fundamentally we just underestimated that choosing healthcare could work as well as it did. Fun like I we all did. I did. Everybody did. Um yeah.

Here here's a I know this is a take I haven't really uh workshopped yet, but maybe Chuck Schumer was right back in April.

Um it was how we did it thing. Oh yeah. Yeah. But like he like everything he said would happen did happen. That Trump's approval would drop. It would allow Republicans would feel once he went below 40.

Well, the shutdown helped kill the approval rating of the Trump admin. I mean, and then it dropped below 40% that he's not going to give. He's just going to lay off a bunch of people, do a bunch of terrible things, and

Yeah. and you're not going to get what you want. So, James Carville's op-ed about uh

rolling over and playing. That wasn't But that wasn't right though because like the one other lesson too for me like in just in how this unfolded is we we spend like what's the Democratic message going to be? And like the message is obviously really important, but like you have to pick the right fights because the fight is the message vehicle. like whatever the like the fight becomes the thing that gets the coverage and gets Trump to respond and that's what people pick up on. Like we've we've had people like you know doing federalist papers on the Senate floor for like in the House floor for for months but then you have a a group of members film a video and they say don't follow illegal orders and then you kick up a real debate and that like gets it more salient. So I think it's about the fight that they picked and they chose not to do that in April. Yeah, that's the that that is the argument and

why I think Schumer was ultimately wrong was you had to have a fight. Like the the he was right about what the outcome would be if you went down that fight. But the actual shutdown show that having the fight, even if you do not win the substantive thing you're going for, still has value. Like fighting is better is fighting and losing is almost always better than not fighting.

So who's falling on the sword? Tommy's Patriots take is obviously the worst. Objectively the worst. Patriots are awesome.

Well, I mean, let's should we Drake May is really half my tweet is right. By the time this podcast comes out, they may have gotten may have lost like 56 to nothing to the Bills on Sunday.

Yeah, that's a fair point. I'm leaving it to you guys. I mean, I I I I'm not sure if Tommy, you're obviously the most quantifiably wrong that you and Love It are also, you know, you were also quantifiably wrong about Mom Donnie. So, on aggregate,

you know, I'll take it. You all right? Zoran Zoran can't win Patriots. Neither can the Patriots.

Brutal takes Zoran and Patriots suck. Brutal brutal takes. Put that on a quote card for me.

I was going to say actually we could just say we are we were collectively wrong about Schumer strategy on the shutdown.

Yeah, I think that's we all Yeah, we all spread the All of you about Schumer. Okay,

let's see. Send this right to him. All of you about Schumer. Okay. If you if the staff can do a dramatic reading of this part of it and send it to him, that'd be good.

Yeah. Someone do Chuck Schumer. Just print Yeah. Just print print out the transcode of this and just put it next to his bagel on Saturday.

Okay. Green Platin. He said green platin. The way the staff's been doing their impressions that ADL is going to come after that next. That's right. Good point.

All right. It's time. The best in show award for the Pundy of 2025. Uh, from the political scandal group, we have the Epstein scandal as our scandal of the year. From the Fluffer Group, we have Steven Miller. He's the worst Trump administration official. From the beef group, it's Trump versus Elon. From the best pod save America beef group, it's John versus JD Vance. The most corrupt group, it's the corruption of the DOJ. The most liout moment of the year was the off-year elections. The most irritating discourse was abundance. Mega media figure was Fentes. Worst Trump move was USA ID and the worst PSA take is all of you about Chuck Schumer's strategy on the shutdown. What's the pundy of the year?

This is like so it's so hard to pick among these different categories. You know,

just got to do it because it it worked better in the in the take version of this because they're all takes.

I know. I know. That's the that's the challenge. Do you have you worked on any criteria, Elisha? If I may, it's just like I listened back to last year's show and an election really structures your year where you have these discreet moments, takes, results, that kind of thing. This was just a onenote year just kind of getting punched in the face over and over again until we had that off your way.

Elijah, professionals make content. They don't make excuses. Yeah, it would honestly like just for pure comedy, the funniest thing we could do would be to create a graphic about this and then have the winner out of this list just to be the abundance discourse. All these things that's like name that as the worst is so stupid.

It's like like this is what's hard to pick about this. I don't even know if we're doing worst, best, what are we even saying?

Yeah. What? Hey, what is more Trump attacking the DOJ abundance or John tweeting a JD

or Chuck Schumer being right? There's no there's no best. There's no I think we should just go Epstein.

What? Sure. Sure. I don't even know what we're doing. Yes. Clear favorite. Absolutely. clear favorite in the whatever the final category

of the year. Pundy Pundy of the year. Epstein gets the Yeah. Epstein didn't win himself.

The defining political thing of 2025 was the Epstein scandal. Feels right. Feels right.

Yeah. But with abundance coming in close second. That is interesting. I think about it though, like we can we can stop, but it's like what was the most defining story from that list of stories of 2025? Was it Epstein? Was it the midterms?

Like what was like the what what defined the year more? I I actually think that the I mean this is the living out thing, but I think that the off year election probably has set that has has changed more about the future.

That's what I do 2025 elections. I do. I hope pundy of the year of the year off your election.

Hope it start the the year ended better than it started. As I said, Elijah through your eating smirk.

He quickly moved past his bad take. goes goes on the attack. Is that is that not another lesson of the era?

No. Well, we we'll tell that to every kid who has measles, BUT not saying it's all good. Not saying we're not going to get our hair mused a little bit. Not saying there won't be some setbacks like the measles making a comeback. The pundy of the year goes to living out over the 2025 elections PSA team for your wonder.

What else do you expect from the Pod Bros. That's beautiful. Beautiful. What gives you hope?

The 2025 what gives you hope award? All right. Who's going to who's going to close us out with a reading from abundance?

No, we should do a reading from American KTO. All right, that's all for the the pundies. Thank you, Elijah. Thank you our staff for

whatever. Hopefully hopefully we can keep you all and you're not going to leave to go join SAG. And

fortunately for us, Hollywood's dying. Some voiceovers. Good. Yeah, the consolidation will reduce the number of opportunities for some of these actors. Unfortunately,

we'll be back in your feed next week with a uh with a holiday mailbag and some uh some New Year's resolutions. We're going to do those, too. Hell yeah. We'll see you then. Beautiful.

Bye, everyone.

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What is discussed in "Trump and MAGA DESTROYED By HOTTEST PODCAST AWARD SHOW In The World (Pundies 2025)"?

In order: 0:00 Alan Lickman, Dan Feifer, Elijah Conn, Epstein scandal; 20:00 John Favro; 30:00 Christy Jackson, Olivia Nuzi; 40:00 Gratza; 50:00 Epstein scandal, James Carville; 1:00:00 Epstein scandal.

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The episode runs 1 h 4 min; the transcript is about 12,650 words in 306 timestamped sections.

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