The Money Is Breaking — And So Is the System | Max Keiser — SF670

What this episode is about

Max Keiser discusses the critical state of the financial system, emphasizing how inflation is eroding wealth for the masses while benefiting the elite. He advocates for Bitcoin and decentralized systems as alternatives to the mainstream, urging a reevaluation of centralized governance and exploring the potential for minimal government as a means to empower communities.

Key takeaways

• Bitcoin's decentralization challenges the status quo, proving that not all currencies are created by government mandate.
• In a system where only the elite benefit, isn't it time we rethink centralized authority's claim to superiority?
• Direct democracy might just be the antidote to a bureaucracy that thinks it's godhood incarnate—who needs omnipotence?
• As inflation rises, the wealthy are dining while the masses starve; perhaps Bitcoin isn't just an investment—it's a lifeline.
• Creativity flourished post-WWI amidst chaos; history shows us that from disorder, remarkable innovations can bloom—are we ready?

Who speaks in this episode?

• Russell Brand (Host) · 20 min speaking
• Max Keiser (Guest) · 13 min speaking
• Jake (Guest) · 2 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 5:00: Bitcoin, Max Kaiser, Rumble, Russell Brand
2. 5:00 – 10:00: Rumble, Bitcoin, Max Kaiser, True Gold Republic
3. 10:00 – 15:00: Bitcoin, Rumble, El Salvador
4. 15:00 – 20:00: Bitcoin, El Salvador
5. 20:00 – 25:00: Bitcoin, Rumble, El Salvador, Max Kaiser
6. 25:00 – 30:00: Bitcoin, Rumble, El Salvador

Notable quotes from "The Money Is Breaking — And So Is the System | Max Keiser — SF670"

• Expert and former host of the Kaiser Report, a very popular financial program. Max Kaiser is here to explain to us the significance of Bitcoin in organizing systems that are…

  about Max Kaiser · at 0:24

• Believe that the best way to approach this revolutionary moment when no one can agree on anything, whether it's the murder of Renee Good or the sympathy that ought be afforded…

  about Renee Mlin Good · at 1:11

• I'm American now. I've got a truck. I've got a gun. I'm reading the Art of War as instructed. Those who use the military skillfully do not raise troops twice and do not provide…

  about Art of War · at 3:51

• Untrustworthiness of the institutions of power across the globe that appear to govern us. Remember CS Lewis, that great Christian writer, depicts the demon class as a bureaucracy. Did he do that by accident? I don't imagine so. Okay.

  about CS Lewis · at 5:38

• That's why True Gold Republic exists, not to sell fear, but to explain reality. True Gold Republic has released a 2026 expert guide that breaks down why gold and silver are…

  about True Gold Republic · at 6:47

• Yes. So it says Rumble the freedom first technology platform the largest company in the digital assets industry today launched the Rumble wallet a non-custodial crypto wallet integrated.

  about Rumble · at 9:09

• Theory. In other words, humans, if left to their own devices, are spiritual beings. And in my view, Bitcoin allows for that spirituality to blossom because you're removing the…

  about Bitcoin · at 15:42

• Yeah, you're right. So, at the moment, El Salvador is becoming a sort of a bastion and as we discussed in the conference, a kind of shining city on the hill for this new form of currency.

  about El Salvador · at 18:13

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Max Kaiser — Person · Main guest · 7 mentions · first at 0:20
  Primary interview subject explaining Bitcoin’s significance (especially censorship resistance) and arguing for decentralization and secessionary “circular economies.”
• Russell Brand — Person · Host · 1 mention · first at 0:13
  Hosts the episode, frames Bitcoin as a tool for organizing outside mainstream power, and steers discussion toward decentralization, direct democracy, and spirituality vs technocracy.
  Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brown. We got a fantastic show for you today. I'm speaking to Max Kaiser, the Bitcoin expert and former host of the Kaiser.
• Julian Assange — Person · Referenced case study · 1 mention · first at 9:58
  Used as an example of Bitcoin’s censorship resistance: when traditional payment rails were blocked, Bitcoin enabled supporters to send funds.
  Financial intermediary. This is important obviously because therefore it cannot be censored. That's why when Julian Assange needed money, when he was in the Ecuadorian embassy…
• CS Lewis — Person · Referenced author (supporting analogy) · 1 mention · first at 5:43
  Invoked to support a critique of bureaucracy: Brand cites Lewis as depicting “the demon class as a bureaucracy,” reinforcing the episode’s anti-technocratic/anti-centralization theme.
• Renee Mlin Good — Person · Referenced individual (example in broader argument) · 1 mention · first at 1:18
  Mentioned as part of a list of polarizing contemporary issues used to illustrate social fragmentation and difficulty forming “definitive positions.”

Books & papers

• Art of War — Book · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 3:52
  Mentioned in the context of strategic thinking and preparation.

Concepts & topics

• Bitcoin — Concept · Core topic · 22 mentions · first at 0:20
  Central theme of the episode, discussing Bitcoin's significance in decentralized systems and its potential to change existing power structures.

Places & events

• El Salvador — Place · Setting · 6 mentions · first at 13:49
  Highlighted as a successful example of Bitcoin adoption and decentralization.

Media & podcasts

• Kaiser Report — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 0:24
  Mentioned as a former financial program hosted by Max Kaiser.
  Free with Russell Brown. We got a fantastic show for you today. I'm speaking to Max Kaiser, the Bitcoin expert and former host of the Kaiser Report, a very popular financial…

Sponsors

• Rumble — Company · Sponsor · 10 mentions · first at 2:13
  Platform hosting the podcast and enabling Bitcoin transactions for content creators.
• True Gold Republic — Company · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at 6:21
  Promoted as a solution for financial independence through gold and silver investments.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:03 Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brandussy theorist trying to bring real journalism to the American people. Hello there, you awakening wonders. Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brown. We got a fantastic show for you today. I'm speaking to Max Kaiser, uh the Bitcoin expert and former host of the Kaiser Report, a very popular financial program. Max Kaiser is here to explain to us the significance of Bitcoin in organizing systems that are outside of the mainstream as Britain is destroyed by a cancer. As inflation means essentially that all of us have got less and less money all the time unless you're in the absolute upper echelons of society and can benefit from the peculiar global movements and transactions that appear to be taking place which is you know beyond the reach and remit of most of us. We're at a point where something critical has to change. Max Kaiser is kind of like I

0:56 suppose an evangelist, the self-declared high priest of Bitcoin. So if you're interested in cryptocurrencies, although I know he hates that phrase, pay attention. But also if you're interested in the organization of systems outside of the mainstream, a lot of thinkers believe that the best way to approach this revolutionary moment when no one can agree on anything, whether it's the murder of Renee Good or the sympathy that ought be afforded to an ICE agent that's doing his job is, you know, how do you come up with a definitive position on any of these things anymore other than the definitive position is God is great. God is real. Human government has gotten to the point where it's so um adept at imitating God's omnip omnipotent, omnisient, omnipresent power that we forget that it's just bureaucracies and institutions made up of fallible human beings. And the position of centralization as superior

1:50 has to be robustly examined before assuming that it's the best way to run any community at all. Why would minimal government not be the best idea? Why would direct democracy not be the best idea? And why would currencies outside the control of centralized banks not be a benefit and an advantage if those were the systems you were interested in pursuing? If you haven't got Rumble Premium yet, get Rumble Premium now. And if you've not tried our amazing reborn products like this fantastic adaptogenic mushroom super coffee with ashwagandha and lion's mane which sounds like a character from the lion king and makes you feel as potent as Mustafa. You are my son then you are missing out. Me mostly I'm down with that mephine blue baby. I'm loving that creatine. Get on to tryreborn.com now and make your purchase. Uh, let's get now without any further halibu. I know this is an unusual way to dress. I mean, look at

2:49 the whole thing. I mean, it's ridiculous. I've got this on. It's held together with a sort of an ammo belt. I'm I'm armed to the absolute teeth for reasons of safety that I'm sure I don't need to explain to you in an environment where people are being regularly assassinated and suffering reputational attacks. You got to be ready to fight. With the UK deep state plainly on my back, you got to be ready for action, baby. And part of the action we'll be be taking is the advocation for direct democracy and ways of attacking these disgusting and corrupt systems. With no further ado, here's Max Kaiser helping us to understand Bitcoin. And remember, you're watching us on Rumble now. So if you want to make donations or tip using Bitcoin, you can do that directly. Ain't that right, Jake?

3:27 That's right. Jake, why are you not wearing a reborn hat right now? I was going to wear it and then I forgot I was going to be on the show. Yeah,

3:33 you was. You've got an unusual head. Is it that you said? Yeah, but my reborn hat, the one with the camo.

3:38 Oh, I like that one. I love that one. I like the one you have. This is a good one. This is one of my favorite ones. I'm pretty much

3:44 You're looking very natural in a hat now of the days. It's weird. I just couldn't wear a hat for a long time. What happened?

3:50 You're American now. I'm American now. I've got a truck. I've got a gun. I'm reading the Art of War as instructed. Those who use the military skillfully do not raise troops twice and do not provide food three times. This means you draft people into service once and then immediately seize victory. You do not go back to your country a second time to raise more troops. Bear this in mind before starting a war against Russia, you lunatic. At first, you provide food. After that, you feed off the enemy. And when and then when soldiers return to your country, you do not greet them with yet more free food.

4:23 Determine whether the enemy can be successfully attacked. Determine whether you can do battle. And only afterwards raise troops. Then you can overcome the enemy and return home. Do not raise troops twice, lest the cit citizenry become wearied and bitter. Right. This is good stuff, man. I'm going to read this whole book.

4:39 The War of Art is also a good book. The War of Art. Why? What is that? That one's about the process of being a creative. The the opposition that you face.

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5:38 untrustworthiness of the institutions of power across the globe that appear to govern us. Remember CS Lewis, that great Christian writer, depicts the demon class as a bureaucracy. Did he do that by accident? I don't imagine so. Okay. Uh if you enjoy our content, please subscribe to Rumble Premium. If you're watching this anywhere other than Rumble, get on over to Rumble right now. And before Max Kaiser, here's a quick message from one of our partners. You know, and I know that we are living in volatile times of incessant crisis.

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7:23 True Gold Republic believes that preparation isn't panic, it's foresight. Are you a prepper? Prepare now. Go to stayfregold.com or ring the number in the link and description. Stay free gold. Preparation ain't panic, baby. Okay, please. Thank you. All right. I love you. I'm from England. Here's Max Kaiser. We are joined by Max Kaiser today. Because Rumble now affords the ability to make donations or tips or perhaps some jargon that I don't understand in Bitcoin, I thought, who better to talk to than the Sultan of Bitcoin, the emperor of Bitcoin, the El Salvadorian, El Doradian, gold prospector, the minor, the major, the in a sense the stave upon which the tune of Bitcoin is played. Max Kaiser, thanks for joining us, Max.

8:14 Thank you. Thank you, fans. Uh, you can just call me the the high priest of Bitcoin.

8:20 The high priest of Bitcoin. It's an honor to be with you. Tell me why it's important and significant that Rumble content creators can now receive Bitcoin directly into a wallet that isn't mediated or in any way brokered for in Bitcoin.

8:37 Yeah, sure. Well, people want Bitcoin now. You know, its popularity has increased dramatically over the years. And it's also very easy to tip people in Bitcoin because it's electronic. So, you can just send it electronically over the internet at a cost of virtually nothing. And uh so th those are the two main reasons. It's people want Bitcoin and it's really cheap and fast to send Bitcoin.

9:04 Jake, tell us exactly what it is that we can do now. Now Jake's the producer and contributor to this show.

9:09 Yes. So it says uh Rumble the freedom first technology platform the largest company in the digital assets industry today launched the Rumble wallet a non-custodial crypto wallet integrated directly into the Rumble platform by embedding crypto payments into the video sharing platform. Rumble wallet eliminates the need for intermediary areas like ad networks, banks, payment processors. creators can now receive direct fast borderless payments from their audience.

9:40 Is that innovative max and important? Yeah, there's no intermediaries. That's the key phrase of that sentence. So the the payments do not go through a bank. They didn't they do not go through any financial intermediary. This is important obviously because therefore it cannot be censored. That's why when Julian Assange needed money, when he was in the Ecuadorian embassy, people were able to send him Bitcoin and nobody could stop him even though the credit card companies and PayPal stopped all payments going in to Julian Assange. So, Bitcoin saved the day there. So, there's no intermediary. It's uncensorable. You cannot stop it. And people want to be able to send money freely without having any intermediation. And this this is true for individuals, but it's also true for countries, right? countries want to be able to send money around the world without having the uh Swift system which is a way to send money globally. They

10:31 that's used to curtail uh money being sent around the world etc. So it depoliticizes money. It's just lets money be money. That's very interesting because to depoliticize money is a pretty radical concept because in a sense money is the artillery of politics. The ultimate arsenal of politics is the ability to withhold, withdraw, or enhance. You only need to look at American politics. And if you were to suggest, well, Republican or Democrat, why don't we just not have donations and not have lobbying? No one's down for that move. And that tells you where the true power is. The money the power is in the currency unit itself, Max. So do you think that this is significant though it is independently do you think collegiately with other ideas that are about decentralization it could be actually revolutionary i.e change existing power structures?

11:27 Well absolutely um let's talk about this depoliticalization of money for a second. So a bitcoin does something that has not ever been possible in the history of money in that it separates money from state. It separates a central authority from money. And in the past, all money has been going through a central authority in the state. Right? States organize themselves politically. They have a they have a system of money. And that money is controlled by the state. And it's always been a dream to separate money from state. The same way there was once a dream to separate the state from the church. Right? That happened a few hundred years ago. It gave us the age of enlightenment. So now we have the separation of money from state and we have a new age of enlightenment or as Stacy Herbert likes to call it a renaissance 2.0. And at the kernel of that renaissance and that revolution is the separation of money

12:21 and state because only Bitcoin allows for the network to be entirely decentralized and yet robust, safe and practical to use on a day-to-day basis for people who want to exchange value over the network. The thing is with the enlightenment is whilst there no one would quarrel with the evident, observable and measurable benefits of the enlightenment whether they were technological or you know many of the ideological discoveries or at least ideals that emerged from that period. But the challenge of the enlightenment is that it ultimately led to positing that human authority is supreme. That the authority of the mind and the authority of reason specifically can't be superseded by any transcendent or uh divine authority for one of a better term max. And and in a way that has led to despotism and forms of despotism that are not obvious. We're all aware, oh no, North Korea isn't that terrible, or Rwanda, that was bad. It's

13:24 not so easy to say that the UK is despotic. Now, so whilst an enlightenment has certainly got positive aspects to it, and I can see that what excites me about Bitcoin and Rumble's embrace of Bitcoin, for example, is that is exactly, as you say, it's non-traceable and it's decentralized. My concern is a kind of a continuation of a conversation that we had on stage at the Bitcoin uh conference in El Salvador. Um and something that I've been thinking about since you said it that you said that the spread of Christianity was afforded by the Roman roads. And I think that's a very [snorts] fair thing to have contested although I've not done any research since then. I could have done I could have come back having done some research really argued with you about it but I've not done that. But what I will say is because I know you think that Bitcoin is itself the resurrection rather than a potential

14:16 tool for a sort of a more divine expression of power or a truer expression of power. Wouldn't you consider it to be crazy if we woripped the roads themselves rather than acknowledged the roads could be a means by which the true message could be spread? And do you think it's possible that Bitcoin decoupled from ideology means that the best ideology will ultimately win in the marketplace?

14:44 Well, let let's go back a little bit there. So, you were talking about the Enlightenment and what maybe we lost uh from the Enlightenment. And if I'm hearing you correctly, you you're positing that maybe we lost a spiritual connection and a loss of spirituality as a result of becoming technical at that point. And this whole technical history since then has led to this highly technocracy age which people would critique and I think rightfully so. But with Bitcoin, when you have individual sovereignty, when you have your own uh Bitcoin that is unconfiscable and nobody can interfere with those transactions, there's no intermediary and it's unconfiscable and it's guaranteed to mathematically increase in purchasing power forever. What happens is you're letting individuals interact with each other on the basis purely of values that would be completely outside of dogma. can't or even political theory. In other words, humans, if left

15:45 to their own devices, uh are spiritual beings. And in my view, Bitcoin allows for that spirituality to blossom because you're removing the authoritarianism that almost always comes with money. So when you remove the authoritarianism that comes with money and you let individuals who are individually sovereign interact at their own human spirituality and I believe all humans have an innate spiritual quality then you're going to see a blossoming of spirituality not a curtailment it actually enhances the goal of what you might call under the rubric of Christian values not demeans them so we're on the same page but let's give humans the ability to interact without being told how to interact by some central authority we know how to interact Russell It's innate in us. We're loving creatures. Bitcoin allows that to happen more naturally because we're also curious creatures. And as curious creatures, we want to exchange value. We

16:39 want to travel. We want to talk. We want to make a basket made. Weaver wants to transact with somebody who's raising goats. How do you do that exchange? You need something to make that possible. We call that thing money. And if that money is uncensorable and unconfiscable and free to transact, then it allows for me to just talk to you as a human being and we can interact as human beings. It removes authoritarianism that comes with the state. Yes. I watched something the other day that said that if like with a credit transactions based on uh on ordinary fiat currency, every single transaction, the $100 is being diminished by the ongoing brokerage of these centralized and secondary agencies. and that your currency you're sort of over time you're incrementally being com is being confiscated and you're being robbed and it's difficult to quarrel with your central idea.

17:30 Let's h let me jump in for a second and I don't mean to cause your editor problems by talking over you but unfortunately I cannot contain myself. So uh in other words um when you have this ability to um have people interact without the interference of a state in or any intermediary they're actually transacting in a frictionless manner which gives them agency in a way that they've never had before. So this ends up giving some empowerment to not only the individual but the collective because everybody in that organ that that tribe that group that that community is now uh focused more on what everyone ultimately would rather be focused on and that is spirituality.

18:13 Yeah, you're right. So, you know, at the moment, El Salvador is becoming a sort of a bastion and as we discussed in the conference, a kind of shining city on the hill for this new form of currency. How's it working out over there, man? Are people like using it practically? I just got my Bitcoin country passport. Look at this. This is the hottest thing on on social media right now. People are buzzing about this passport. It's from the Bitcoin office. It gives you a little guided tour of all the great things that are happening in Bitcoin country. And what we're seeing here, Russell, is the emergence of what are called circular economies. Whether it's in Bitcoin Beach or whether it's in Berlin or several other places, communities are seceding from the state.

18:58 They're creating their own communities and they transact, they save, and they get paid in Bitcoin. It's all in Bitcoin saving uh getting paid uh spending. It's all in Bitcoin. And uh as a result they those communities are flourishing and thriving and we and of course the state itself under Boulli has reduced homicides down to almost zero. So you have hard money you have Bitcoin in the safest country in the Western Hemisphere. Plus uh you know it's got uh it's it's it's a country that's on the rise. It's got the GDP is rising, tourism is booming, construction is booming. It's really the it's really the shining city on the hill as you say.

19:36 It's coming out of the fourth turning. I don't know if you cover the fourth turning or talk about the fourth turning, but it's a theory that you have these 80-year cycles where societies collapse and then are rebuilt. And I would say that the UK and the US are kind of in a collapse phase and um you have uh El Salvador is the first out of more of a building phase. You know, it's leading leading the world. And to your point you made earlier about the what I was going to talk about, you talked about how credit creation is what you said a moment ago. You're absolutely correct in that money right now in the system is created through debt or credit. When when the bank in the UK uh when HSBC loans somebody money to buy a house through a mortgage, that money comes from just simply creating it out of thin air. That's how the money supply expands. Right now, there's never been more money fiat money slashing around

20:25 the globe than ever before. Hundreds and hundreds of trillions of dollars of it. And you see what's happening with gold and silver and and other commodities. They're hitting new all-time highs because these governments and these banks can't stop issuing all this debt. And that debt just adds to the overall supply of worthless fiat money. And against that backdrop, you see the rise of hard assets. And gold and silver are certainly catching everyone's attention right now. They're hitting new all-time highs. Bitcoin has already been onto this for years, and it's soon to make a new all-time high as well. Do you think it's possible, plausible, desirable, even inevitable then that there could be a secession as you uh termed it in admittedly in kind of micro economies within El Salvador of various communities potentially eventually in confederacy seceding from their national authority and declaring themselves

21:18 independent? Would Bitcoin be one of the tools by which a community could say we don't want to be part of the UK anymore? We want to be an independent autonomous community run by direct democracy trading using Bitcoin and being independent when it comes to say fundamentals like food, food production. The aim would be autonomy and self- sustenance. You know that other thing you and I share, Max Kaiser, other than, you know, other potential peculiarities and eccentricities is that we both know a little about the 12 traditions. And I rather like the idea of burers being fully independent except in matters that affect other burers or the confederacy, let's call it, as a whole. Could Bitcoin be used, Max, as a tool to set up independent communities, not just in El Salvador, as you said, although they're likely collegiate with the El Salvadorian government due to the nature of the project you're partaking in in a

22:17 country where that's more adversarial, particularly using your um turn forth turning, you know, analogy there or sort of rubric paradigm. You know, is it possible that we could start to establish communities on that basis using Bitcoin? Could it become a real threat? Is it plausible? Is it is there a is there a political um is this a political weapon even though you say it's apolitical?

22:42 Yeah, absolutely. Is it possible to secede and it is and we're seeing it happening and uh what happens is this uh tendency to overprint fake money. It goes back thousands of years. Obviously, we know the story of the Roman Empire. They were clipping coins. They diluted the value. They couldn't pay their soldiers and the empire collapsed. uh with uh the current fiat money world, we see two possible outcomes when you overprint too much fiat money. Number one is confiscation of gold for example as we saw in the 1930s in the United States and then a revaluing against gold. That was a confiscation of wealth from the population after the government went too far into debt or they just go to war, right? War is a great way to clean up your balance sheet because you kill a lot of people, you give a lot of money, you you create an authoritarian top- down dictatorship essentially and um you uh uh go into rationing, right?

23:33 You start rationing food and rationing things and that's how you deal with the with a collapse. But here now in the 21st century 2026, we have something that people have never had before and that is unconfiscable, uncensorable hard money that can only go up in purchasing power. So those so what'll happen in my view is that these governments will once again find themselves in too much debt. They will once again collapse but this time we'll have all the money. So instead of the gold being confiscated the governments will come to us the bitcoiners and beg for money beg for this thing that can keep them going. And of course we'll say get lost.

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24:58 adree experience. If you want an adree experience of Rumble, get Rumble Premium. And in the meantime, stay free. I was struck then by the um continuum, the ethmological continuum between rationing, rationalism and the evidential connection between rationing and control. And to my earlier point about the Enlightenment is it afforded complete human control through technocracy ultimately but likely in the kind of states we're talking about as being in decline and potential terminal implosion. I'll use the UK as not to offend the Americans that you know you're all American everyone else in this conversation and like it seems that the UK is indeed grooming the population for war legitimizing advancing hostility towards Russia and do you imagine that part of the motivation is as you described in the particular instance of the UK and Russia Max.

26:02 Yeah, they're broke. the the UK is broke and the United States is broke. So, uh the United States is trying to buy whole countries to get out of the debt problem that they're in like Greenland. Uh they're trying to tell the central bank to lower interest rates, which is which is the absolute opposite thing you should do because when you have uh $1.5 trillion a year in interest on your debt and close to $40 trillion worth of debt, what you want to do is raise interest rates to defend the value of your currency by cutting rates. They're simply going to extend and pretend.

26:35 They're going to increase the debt load from 40 trillion to 100 trillion. So around the world, these countries go into debt. Remember, World War II was the result of the reparations Germany had to pay after World War I. Well, the America and the UK are facing the same problem. They're paying reparations to the banks and the private equity groups that have stolen all the assets and replace it with debt. Right? They're off on their yacht in St. Barts on a 300 400 foot yacht, but all that money came out of extraction from ongoing enterprises, leaving debt in its wake and now nobody can pay the debt. So, they're going to go to war or they're going to try to confiscate. Well, Bitcoiners are looking at this and saying we can only our assets can only go up in value in this scenario and it's unconfiscable. So, on one hand, I hate to see this type of conflict coming, but on the other hand, I'm conflicted because I know that means

27:25 my Bitcoin is going to $10 million a coin. So, uh, you know, we'll see what happens. I'm I'm I'm I was saw this coming as you have for a long time. I read your book, Revolution. I know where your heart is. I know you see the problems. Bitcoin is the answer. Do you imagine, Max, that people that popularize these ideas and ideas that have a comparable uh aim become almost by definition enemies of the interests that you describe? Because you know when you say 40 trillion in debt, 100 trillion in debt, don't you think that most people, and I'd include myself in this, of course, have become inoculated to that stream of zeros. You can't even make sense of it anymore.

28:07 None of us really under I still don't understand why the United States is in debt, why the UK is in debt. I understand what you've explained and because of how you've explained it that money is being generated that's not tethered to any sort of object or solidity or trade or commodity and how that ultimately leads to decline and implosion that bit of I get. So do you feel that actually what we're proposing here aside from El Salvador, a nation that's under embraced this ideal as well as so many other initiatives. Do you feel that it's actually rather a menacing idea when it comes to real power? [snorts] Look, I mean, for people who are glazed over when you talk about tens of trillions and hundreds of trillions of dollars and how that would impact their day-to-day life, I have only one thing to say. Uh, when you go to Tesco today, is the basket of stuff you're buying there more expensive today than it was a

29:08 year ago or five years ago? Of course. That that that's that's where the rubber hits the road. You don't have to think about hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of debt. Just understand that the reason you have inflation, the reason inflation is wiping out the middle class, the reason why basic food stuffs are becoming unaffordable or housing is completely unaffordable in the UK, there's a housing crisis. People cannot get on the housing ladder. That's because of all this money that's being printed. That's debased the currency.

29:35 The pound has been debased. So that's where it hits the average person in something called inflation. The government will tell you inflation is 2 or 3%. But the government doesn't count stuff that's actually going up in price. They count, let's say, televisions that are made in Asia that are going down in price. And they'll say, "Well, see, there's no inflation." But they don't count housing. They don't count medical care. They don't count insurance. They don't count anything that's going up in price that people actually use because they lie. Because they're protecting the bankers, because it's a Ponzi scheme, because they're corrupt, because it's fraud. Right. So, uh, as if anyone's watch,

30:10 I can see why you left London, Max. Um, so, um, okay, that's really, really interesting and important. The UK housing crisis, inflation and poverty.

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Who speaks in "The Money Is Breaking — And So Is the System | Max Keiser — SF670"?

Russell Brand (Host), Max Keiser (Guest), Jake (Guest).

What is "The Money Is Breaking — And So Is the System | Max Keiser — SF670" about?

Max Keiser discusses the critical state of the financial system, emphasizing how inflation is eroding wealth for the masses while benefiting the elite. He advocates for Bitcoin and decentralized systems as alternatives to the mainstream, urging a reevaluation of centralized governance and exploring the potential for minimal government as a means to empower communities.

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11 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Bitcoin, Max Kaiser, Russell Brand, El Salvador, Julian Assange, Art of War. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "The Money Is Breaking — And So Is the System | Max Keiser — SF670"?

The episode runs 33 min; the transcript is about 5,388 words in 48 timestamped sections.

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