"THE REFS WON NOT THE BRONCOS!" - Shady GOES NUCLEAR on Refs in Broncos vs. Bills game

What this episode is about

The discussion focuses on the controversial officiating during the Broncos vs. Bills game, highlighting a disputed interception call against Bills player Cook. The speaker argues that the play should have been reviewed, emphasizing that if possession is unclear, the tie typically goes to the offense, and expresses frustration over the lack of thoroughness in the referees' decision-making during a critical moment in the game.

Key takeaways

• NFL officiating: where four hours of football ends with a referee's whim deciding a player’s future.
• In a league of billion-dollar franchises, why is a simple play review too much to ask?
• A tie in a crucial moment? That’s not just bad luck; it’s a scandal waiting to happen.
• Josh Allen crying: not just a quarterback’s heart, but the fate of a coach’s career on the line.
• When game-changing calls hinge on a referee's nap, the integrity of the whole league is at risk.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Shady McCoy (Guest) · 15 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 5:00: NFL, Josh Allen, Sean McDermott, Brandin Cooks
2. 5:00 – 10:00: Prize Picks, Tredavious White, NFL, Bo Nix
3. 10:00 – 15:00: Josh Allen, Bo Nix, Joey Bosa
4. 15:00 – 20:00: Josh Allen, Brandin Cooks
5. 20:00 – 24:19: Josh Allen

Notable quotes from ""THE REFS WON NOT THE BRONCOS!" - Shady GOES NUCLEAR on Refs in Broncos vs. Bills game"

• Yo, NOW OUR DAD MIGHT GET FIRED BECAUSE the refs were so lazy NOT TO CHECK THIS OUT. I A GUY LIKE JOSH ALLEN. I WATCHED JOSH ALLEN ON THE PODIUM today and I know Josh. Josh is…

  about Josh Allen · at 3:02

• Like millions of dollars swing. I think the line for Brandon Cook's longest reception was like 16 and a half yards.

  about Brandin Cooks · at 3:49

• I'm Yo, one thing about the league I'm starting to hate and I hate it when I play. I'm tired of the boys in black and white taking THE GAME AWAY.

  about NFL · at 5:12

• In more than 40 states, including California, Texas, my home state, and Georgia. But my favorite thing, Prize Picks is going to give you $50 in lineups when you make your first…

  about Prize Picks · at 6:22

• That was a PI. He was just mad. I think he got called for a PI. And honestly, shout out to Shawn Peyton because I think Shawn Peyton coaches Bo Knicks.

  about Bo Nix · at 9:40

• But yeah, now I definitely think the Trey White play was a PI.

  about Tredavious White · at 10:27

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Josh Allen — Person · Referenced player (central subject of debate) · 8 mentions · first at 3:07
  He is discussed as the Bills' quarterback whose turnovers, emotions at the podium, and overtime narrative are central to the argument about officiating and accountability.
• Bo Nix — Person · Referenced player (opposing QB; performance evaluation) · 4 mentions · first at 9:45
  Discussed as the Broncos quarterback whose clutch late-game drive, deep-ball PI strategy, and toughness (playing hurt) are contrasted with Josh Allen's mistakes.
• Sean McDermott — Person · Referenced coach (decision-maker under scrutiny) · 2 mentions · first at 3:38
  Presented as the Bills head coach whose job security and public comments are tied to the disputed officiating and the season's outcome.
  Get fired off decisions like this because now there's a fair conversation to have. You know what I mean? Like Sean McDermott, should he still be coaching the Bills? And because…
• Brandin Cooks — Person · Referenced player (receiver tied to disputed play/gambling line) · 2 mentions · first at 1:30
  Mentioned as the receiver involved in the contested catch/interception sequence and as the subject of a betting prop (longest reception line), used to illustrate financial stakes.
• Tredavious White — Person · Referenced defender (penalty example) · 2 mentions · first at 9:07
  Used as an example of a defensive pass interference call; the panel debates whether his play was a legitimate PI and frames it as frustration-driven.
• Joey Bosa — Person · Referenced defender (veteran mistake example) · 2 mentions · first at 9:18
  Cited as a veteran who committed an avoidable penalty after the ball was out, used to contrast 'rookie mistakes' vs experienced discipline.
  This is that Joey Bosa is just too veteran to do that. That's just so annoyingly dumb.

Concepts & topics

• NFL — Concept · Core topic · 3 mentions · first at 2:19
  Central theme of the episode, discussing the NFL game, its rules, and the impact of referees' decisions.

Sponsors

• Prize Picks — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 6:09
  Promoted during the episode as a platform for winning cash while watching sports.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 We got another $50 super chat from Mad Gonzo 8845 said that interception call against Cook was ABSOLUTE BS. BULL ASS BS. What was Yo?

0:09 Uh oh. Y'ALL GOT TO CHECK. REAL TALK THOUGH. JOSH MY YOUNG BOY. MY [ __ ] LIKE HOW IN THE hell you [clears throat] watch a game for THREE AND A HALF, FOUR HOURS

0:18 AND YOU CAN'T TAKE 5 [screaming] MINUTES, 3 MINUTES to lick over it, dog. Now cuz you're a vet. No wonder you get I guess that's why you be getting traded and all that, DOG. CATCH THE BALL WITH YOUR HANDS, DUDE.

0:30 AND THEN TUCK IT IN. BUT ANYWAY, HE BRINGS IT IN AND HE HITS the knee. First of all, IF IT'S A TIE, THE TIE GOES THROUGH THE

0:36 OFFENSE. SO, WHAT WE DO? WHAT WERE WE DOING? I THINK I THINK THEM CALLING BILL'S CURSED, Y'ALL. They cursed, bro.

0:42 Let's look at the play first. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go, bro. Throw it up, please. Sir.

0:48 Okay. Look, this dude catches it with his shoulder, catches it, and he's down. THAT'S A CATCH.

0:54 THAT'S A CATCH. YEAH, THAT'S A CATCH. LIKE THAT IS CRAZY. LIKE THAT'S A CATCH. THE THING IS PERIOD. THAT IS A CATCH. If if IT IS A TIE, IT GOES TO the offense. And worst case scenario, like Shady said, at least review it. At least stop, take 3 minutes, take 5 minutes, and review this play. But there is no way we can play 19 games of football, lead to this point, have the season come on the line. We are in overtime and the refs just give it to the Broncos. At least for the love of the game review it referees. But a tie goes to the offense and we see the receiver Cooks with possession on the ground and AT LEAST IT'S TOSS UP POSSESSION on the ground.

1:37 That should have been ruled to catch. But this is my thing though, right? And uh

1:40 Karen, if you can can you stop it when it when he when he when when it brings to a knee?

1:46 When he comes to a knee. Okay, got you. Bam. So So right here, this hands on. This one I don't get though. SO RIGHT HERE THE BALL AND HIS BODY'S on the ball.

1:54 Correct. And the defender IS REACHING IN THERE. THERE'S NO WAY you the defender can have control. He's reaching IN THERE.

2:00 Y DOG. THIS IT'S the easiest call to make. And the thing I have about the NFL, you can have a a 4-hour game going to overtime. and y'all can't overlook this or see if it's right or wrong. Another thing I have a problem with

2:16 it's so much money in American sports. The number one sport is football. Correct.

2:22 And I think the reason why is because we have the the ability to check plays out cuz a lot of times officiating messes games up. But but we do the red flags and this and they look at everything and see if it's right.

2:33 This is a game right here where people's careers online. Everybody's not go to the Hall of Fame. This is not how it works. Y

2:38 but there's some guys that are dudes been playing this 6 years old and they get a chance to dream about playing this game and they get in the game and they get in the game and take it away. I need a guy like Shawn Mcderman. He's a type of guy. He's a really really great coach. Changed the change the whole culture in Buffalo. But hey, [clears throat] in football, if you don't win him, you can get fired. Now his family life is on the line because yo, NOW OUR DAD MIGHT GET FIRED BECAUSE the refs were so lazy NOT TO CHECK THIS OUT. I A GUY LIKE JOSH ALLEN. I WATCHED JOSH ALLEN ON THE PODIUM today and I know Josh. Josh is a tough mother. I played with him as my young boy. He don't cry often. He goes to the podium.

3:16 crying because he feel like I let my teammates down. And it's like, well, let's find out if you really did let your teammates down. Let's check the play. This was terrible. We are too, the NFL is too much advanced to have these type of errors.

3:30 Well, here's what the best part of what said. We're not realizing like coaches get fired off decisions like this because now there's a fair conversation to have. You know what I mean? Like Sean McDermott, should he still be coaching the Bills? And because of a play like this, money millions of dollars. Let me not exaggerate and say gambling. Like come on, man.

3:49 Like millions of dollars swing. I think the line for Brandon Cook's longest reception was like 16 and a half yards.

3:54 Well, he been got that then. No, I don't think he bro. Did he get it this game?

3:58 He got that. He didn't get it. He didn't get it cuz remember he caught a long one that was out of bounds. Remember his kneed and then this other one was not cut. So like his line was of So when you talk gambling, when you talk about playoff picture, when you talk about coaches and then I think and Shady knows better than me because he actually knows Josh personally. I think in part the reason Josh was crying and he said at the podium he said it's a long season. It's a long season, bro. And and you know what in that part and I text Josh too, man, cuz I you know I ain't with all the mushy mushy stuff and all that, but I do care because I know how hard people don't understand how hard the NFL is. Like we joke on these shows joke. You don't know how hard it is to play this game. So now you put everything and you get up in the morning every day just to get to this point. You get to this point cuz you're away from

4:41 your family more than than people know and you with the people that you play with that's your family right during the season. So you get to this point yo and it's like damn everybody's riding on it and everything we hear about and they make this quarterback stat about wins going to the quarterback or loss going to the quarterback. Mahomes ain't there. Burrow ain't there. He has no excuses NOW. NO, NO, NO WORRY ABOUT THE TEAM. Don't worry about his teammate. Nowhere near as talent as other teams, but we get to this point and he makes the right throw and the ref's going to cheat him like that.

5:11 Mhm. I'm Yo, one thing about the league I'm starting to hate and I hate it when I play. I'm tired of the the boys in black and white taking THE GAME AWAY.

5:22 REAL TALK I'M WE NEED TO START PUTTING SHIRTS, YOU KNOW, UH NONOFFICIALS MATTER. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING? THIS IS CRAZY, DOG. HOLD ON,

5:33 BRO. HOLD ON. I'M AT HOME LIKE, "WHAT ARE WE DOING, MAN?" HOLD ON. WHAT THE WHAT THE SHIRT SAY, BRO?

5:38 THEY SAY NONOFFICIALS MATTER. YEAH, BRO. BECAUSE CHECK IT OUT. THEY GOING TO GO HOME. THEY GOING to have some hot chocolate. Going to see their wives, KISS THEIR KIDS. HEY, THEY AIN'T CRYING.

5:47 YOU'RE RIGHT, THOUGH. HEY, GET READY FOR next week, man. NEXT WEEK NOW. LIKE, NO. JOSH, FIRST OF ALL, [sighs]

5:54 speak your truth. Not even that, dog. I seen like six other Bills crying. Yeah, Deion Dawkins, too.

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6:50 Sean McDerman also did agree with you. He ended up have talking to talking to the fans of Buffalo after the game. I'll let you guys listen to what he had to say. Um, it's hard for me to, and I've had a chance to look, it's hard for me to understand why it was ruled the way it was ruled. And if it is ruled that way, then why wasn't it slowed down? Just to make sure

7:11 Mhm. that we have this right, that would have made a lot of sense to me to make sure that we have this thing right because that that's a pivotal play in the game. We have the ball at the 20, maybe kicking a game-winning field goal right there.

7:24 Come on now. Um, correct. So, I'll just leave it at that. And I also think for Bills fans, this is tough because following this interception,

7:33 the Broncos proceed to pick up 51 penalty yards on their drive to go win the game.

7:39 THAT WAS THAT WAS CRAZY. 51 penalty yards. Yeah, that's No, man. I'm black and white, y'all. I'm telling you, dude. That's why I never I never talk to them zebras. I never do it because DOG NOW AND ALL THESE NOW NOW the game is almost over and now you want to call these crazy penalties. THE WHOLE GAME they didn't call no no flags like that. But now you want to so it's in a great game dog.

8:00 Yeah, man. Let me let me ask you let me ask you this shady. Oh yeah. What's What's worse?

8:05 The boys in black and white or the boys in blue? Bro, who you rock with less, bro? They're the same person.

8:13 The moonlight. They moonlight is count is refereeing. Them two them two and Captain America is the same people.

8:25 Damn Captain America catching this dude. And the last one is y'all some cops in here a little bit.

8:36 Sh just came with the with the with the the gun loaded today. How we cops? CUZ WE DRINKING JOHN. NOW WE THE POLICE. NO, I'M GOING I want to keep it, you know, speak easy, but y' y'all know y some cops.

8:51 That's crazy. I don't take lightly to to to no cop. Look, uh, speaking of this pass interference, I I brought up the video of of the of the one that got the Broncos into field goal range. I believe it was on a second and seven. Let's take a look at this one right now. I I want to know what you think as a defender right here. What more is seven supposed to do?

9:07 Taran Johnson's not a PI. Javius White is a PI. For y'all at home watching, this is not a PI. It's just not. Now, the the this third down.

9:15 This was This was a second and seven. It was It was about to be third and seven around.

9:18 This is that that Joey Bosa is just too veteran to do that. That's just so annoyingly dumb.

9:23 Yeah, it would have been a penalty. That's what runs me hot. Like Bosa, you've been league like nine years, bro. And the ball's clearly out. And don't even say like you're frustrated. That That's just annoyingly dumb. Let a rookie do that. The Tradavius White, I don't even know. I think Shady knows Tradavius like he cool as hell. That that was a PI. He was just mad. I think he got called for a PI. And honestly, shout out to Shawn Peyton because I think Shawn Peyton coaches Bo Knicks. Hey, when you see zero, put hella air under it. Like just throw a moonball because the DB doesn't know how to play the ball in the air. And that's what happened. Like I don't even know if Bo Knicks is trying to throw this to be caught cuz it's in the air forever. It's not even throwing it as though it's attempted to be caught as much as hey, just put air under it. Let your receiver adjust. The DB won't turn around. It'll

10:08 be a PI. That's a good That's a good point. I' I've always say like, yo, if you see oneonone, I don't think it be zero. If you see one-on-one coverage, bro, give him a shot because three things can happen. One, he catches it, it's a pick or a PI. Give him a shot.

10:24 Yeah. No, it's it's tough. So, I'm trying to get the video to load for it. But yeah, now I I definitely think the Trey White play was was was a PI.

10:31 Yeah, he was he was just mad, I think. Like, cuz that's why he throws his helmet and gets called out.

10:36 But I can understand that call though. Like let's say if it is a PR I could get I won't even argue that I was mad about it but I could argue that the the first one I was like come on man

10:43 the first one was and the thing that makes it tough is I would love to give them an excuse but the the the Joey Bosa play was going to get called now the only difference is 15 yards.

10:51 Exactly. The Boza one's 15 yards the Taran Johnson one that joint spotted a foul.

10:56 It was it was about it was about five yards longer than but you know that matter. But here's the other crazy thing is the Broncos couldn't do anything on offense. Y'all remember the very next play they tried to run a sweep with Bo Knicks to the left yard. Yep.

11:08 So then next thing you know then they aired out again PI. So I got I got a question though cuz I I know how Ashro thinks.

11:14 Yes sir. So how you think Bo Knicks played today? I think he didn't sell. Oh no. He ain't sell.

11:21 I think he didn't sell. Like I think he didn't sell. And in all honesty Shady when push comes to shove

11:26 he got that dog in him. You know, the fact that he had a fractured ankle and went out there at the end of the game with the fractured ankle and was and was and was throwing the ball in position to be caught.

11:37 Matter you're a good player. I like it's I know some real tough dudes that that's not that

11:41 shady. He broke an ankle G like out for season. Yeah. Like like and he's a quarterback. Not even like not even like got his hand in the dirt and taking some weight off.

11:48 I'll say this, what y'all were looking for in Bon Knicks, I think showed itself today though a little bit. You get the ball back down four with four minutes left in a playoff game

11:57 against Josh. The old like the Bow Knicks that we thought I that I think everyone thinks he is sells in that moment. The same dude that threw a pick and had a punt on his last two drives. It looked like he was selling the game. Nah, he led a touchdown drive and threw a dime for a touchdown at that. Left him with what 55 seconds left to to to go back down the field. That was a clutch drive. That's exactly what I want out of my quarterback. You threw three touchdowns. You did your job today. You did your job.

12:21 You know what's crazy? At first I was like, "Dang, Bick's really tripping." Shady, you might recall, y'all remember it was supposed to be a play action and Bo Knicks like tried to hand the ball to the running back and then it was a fumble. I was like, "Dang, Bo, the moment too bigger than you.

12:33 It's too big for you." But then I was like, "Wait a second. If I didn't know who was who, Bo Knicks or Josh Allen, I would be thinking Bo Knicks was making the Josh Allen mistakes." The mistake Josh Allen made before halftime, that was a first time in the playoffs mistake.

12:47 Yeah. Like that was a like you're running before half just sl like that was a first time in the playoffs mistake. That bad pick that Josh Allen threw to PJ Lock

12:56 that was as bad a pick as anything Bon Knicks did today. Bonix had one interception on it today. Um think about the deep balls if if we're just being honest. Josh Allen he under threw both of his deep balls or the one deep ball that got picked blah blah blah. Bonix for what it's worth the fact that he put enough air on that ball to draw the PI. Shad, I was like, that is a skill. Not and not not not praising somebody for an incomplete pass, but what I'm saying is like shout out to the Broncos and I'll give them credit for saying, "Hey, if you see zero, just throw it."

13:29 Because it's not getting picked. DBs for the most part, unless it's Derek Stingley or Trayvon Digs in his prime, DBs don't have enough football skills to turn it into a pick. So, it's either a PI or an incompletion.

13:41 He played live with it. He played decent. I mean, he played decent. Um the Bills to me the Bills defense ain't really like that good like that. They they're solid, right? But they're not they're not no world beaters. I mean we look in the playoffs right now where they rank at the the bottom of defense in the playoffs.

13:57 Yeah. Yeah. Seven though, right? Huh. Seven. I mean the defenses remaining. They're not really I just I just I think Bo played all right. Um he did make some plays but then if it was a long stretch where he couldn't do nothing.

14:08 Correct. The longest stretch that did matter. I just The longest stretch I just I I can't I won't even sit here and try to compare him with Josh. I won't even

14:15 But if you if you compare him Shady to secondyear Q's in the playoffs, that's where I'll say shout out to Bo because

14:21 I mean he's in a great in a great system. We going to play great defense. We can run the ball. I mean like

14:25 but think about today. He was a team's leading rusher and he threw for 330 yards.

14:29 Yeah. He threw 279 yards. Yeah. 308 total yards of offense today. 300 tot three tugs.

14:35 Yeah. I mean and even if you forget the stats like cuz the stats the stats don't even tell the picture of the deep balls. Then the last touchdown was that that was him. That was an amazing play. Um the one I think before um that was a great play called by Shawn.

14:49 Yeah, Shawn was in the back. That's thing like today the general consensus is going to be Bo Knicks outplayed Josh Allen in a playoff game.

14:55 I that's laughing and like like I mean I it's not that I think he's a better quarterback, but I have to give him his credit. You did go out there. If we're going to say Jaylen Herz out played Patrick Mahomes in in the Super Bowl, I I can give Bonix a credit and say, "Bro, you showed up."

15:07 Let's be for real and we we all have enough football IQ to remember. sophomore quarterbacks that have made deep playoff runs,

15:14 right? Outside of Jaden, because Jaden last year ended up doing his thing until he ended up getting embarrassed by the Eagles.

15:19 He was the first year though. Oh, yeah. Excuse me. Okay. Sophomore. Great. Yeah. Sophomore. Yeah.

15:22 Ben Rothelberger didn't put the team on his back. That was defense and running game and tight ends.

15:28 Yeah. Uh uh. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson. He didn't put the team on his back. When Mark Sanchez made the AFC Championship game two years in a row, second and third year, he didn't put the team on his back. That was running game. Oh, Joe Borrow made the Super Bowl. Shout out to Joe. But but still Yeah, but shout out shout out Joe Joe Burrow Joe. But like for the most part, if I'm not going to compare Bo to Josh cuz that's dumb. But what I will compare Bo to is

15:55 historical sophomore quarterbacks. This what you got to do. You give us 300 yards and three touchdowns and one pick

16:02 with this defense, you good enough. Yeah. I mean, shout out to y'all. We got 10,000 people in the chat right now. 10,000 of y'all. Uh we'll keep it pushing. We'll we'll talk about uh Bonix as well. Oh, we get to super chat.

16:14 Yeah, let's get to some super chat. Let's get to some super chats cuz they they are piling up and I don't want to get too far behind and they're on Shadyy's head. So, I want to give Shady a chance to respond should he feel the need to start it off with this first one from Zire 23-26 said, "By the way, Josh Allen is 0 and 9 in overtime games, including playoffs. keep that same energy on Josh Allen that you have on Jaylen Herz. Fly Eagles fly.

16:39 See, like like come on, man. For real. I ain't You know what I mean? Like I'm an eagle at at heart and I'll never You know what I'm saying? I love my birds. Like if you cut my my my arm, it's going everywhere. But like who said this?

16:54 That was uh Zire. Zire, be better than that, bro. Come on. Let's Let's not even put Jaylen in that situation with like, you know please.

17:02 Okay. He keeping it pretty peaceful. John the Space Cowboy. Let's see if we could turn him up. Said, "What's going on with Josh Allen and two interceptions and two fumbles that cost the team the game? I don't want to hear anything about the refs because they missed that holding call that should have been a safety and Denver would have won the game anyway."

17:15 I've heard about that. Yeah, I ain't see that. I watched the game. I ain't seen no holding call.

17:20 There was a holding call in the in overtime. I think Josh coming out of the end zone like at the six that

17:26 I mean but we just being honest like yo like the Bills not that good of a team like that. We just being straight honest. They not

17:35 Yeah. We said the same stuff in week one when they played the Ravens and they win that game.

17:41 We like they don't even have enough. They don't have enough. Yeah. I I just I'm not going to make no excuses. They lost the game, right? Josh didn't play great. I think he played well enough to win the game.

17:48 I think if that if them refs and them boys, them cops did the right thing and gave that boy that that them yards, they win that game. But you're not wrong. They lost. I ain't You're not wrong.

17:58 He's He's still keeping it pretty PG. Let's see if this one does it. K. Crazy 215 said, "Down goes Allan." Shady, put your investigator hat on and figure out what flavor turnovers Josh made tonight.

18:11 That's pretty good. What flavor turnover? That's pretty good though. Wow. Turnover.

18:17 Yo, you know what's crazy though? Yo, Josh Allen is People know how great he is. Yeah.

18:21 And I think that's why they root against him cuz he never gives you anything to root bad about him. He's a good He's a good solid dude, but he's so great

18:29 that we try to find ways because like they show all his losses. Lost Pat four times. Lost and I get it. But like the one year that like you give him that loss, dog. I mean, he gave him dude 13 seconds.

18:41 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like even today, I mean, he didn't play well today, but he played well up to win. I felt like he [snorts] made some plays when needed to make him. Ran the ball when he needed to run. I

18:50 Yeah. You know, today he equaled the amount of interceptions he has thrown in his entire playoff career

18:56 in one game. But you know, people that never played, they don't know this, but like it is a pressure thing. So you SO YOU YOU KNOW, I GOT TO DELIVER. I CAN'T WHO AM I DEPEND ON,

19:06 RIGHT? You know what I'm saying? He was trying to do too much. the added pressure of all the AFC quarterbacks being out of out of his bumped up like bro like for real you throwing the ball to Brandon Cooks though.

19:20 Yeah. And I'm not listen to him cuz he has a good career but like he on the end of this joint he start the year on start the year and then yo your touchdown passes today was

19:28 to Micole Hartman that's my that's my boy but he's been in and out of the lineup. He's been start but nobody nobody going to talk about THAT THOUGH. THEY'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. That was one of the worst playoffs he's ever had. And I'm not here to like just completely down him for that. I don't know that people root against Josh compared to like rooting against Lamar and rooting against Dax and rooting against Shador. Like there's quarterbacks people actively root against. I think the fact is like this was the first game and playoff game in a long time where you got to shut the hell up and say Josh that's on you.

20:00 13 seconds you can't say Josh on you. I can't say that. This is This is the one where you

20:04 This was the one in a long time. At least Shane Cor is not there. Nah, because Josh turnovers.

20:10 Like this is the first time in a long time where like I'm a Josh [snorts] fanatic hurt watching

20:16 like like literally we've watched game together. I am a Josh fanatic. Like truly when people like Lamar should be MVP, shut up. It's Josh Allen.

20:22 Yeah. But this was the one game where I was like but that's why Josh was crying. Josh ain't crying cuz he crying. He's crying.

20:29 He feels like he sold. He feels like he's sold and he knows, bro, Bo Knicks, CJ Stra, Drake May, that was the playoff picture. And then on the other side, Sam Darnold. Like that's that's a part of the tears. It's like, but but no. Yeah. But but even that though, cuz we It's a quarterback thing that we want to believe. But yo, I have the worst team out of everybody.

20:51 He does. Yeah. But but that's because he has the worst team out of everybody. If Josh has a bad game, they lose no matter what. like like you you don't have room to have a bad game or or just an okay game because he has to play Superman. He has to put on that cape. You have to go out there and win. That's the dichotomy.

21:07 You know what's crazy though and I'm going to keep it a buck and Shady going to get hot cuz the Broncos team didn't look that great.

21:14 I don't think they are like I don't like I don't like when when when I'm looking at the like hold on a second like who the hell the Broncos got especially on offense. Defense they got some dogs. Shout out to Bonito. Shout out to Pat.

21:24 Yeah Bon leading rusher. Like when I look at the Broncos, Mclofflin, RJ Harvey, Sutton was in a box, Troy Franklin got hurt. Uh Mims got smacked on. He's a kick returner. If you if you're that good of a player, you're not a kick returner, respectfully. So I'm saying like

21:38 what you saying though? I'm saying all them them back all them running backs are good hard.

21:43 James Cook's left ankle is better than them. That's not true, Shady. James Cook went for 120.

21:50 James Cook's a part of too. We fumble with the ball when THEY GOT A TURNOVER AND THEY TRYING TO MOVE THE BALL AND YOU GET PICKED ON YOU GET HIT CLEAN AND JUST FUMBLE.

21:57 I TELL YOU. SO THE WAY NO, NO. IF WE GOING TO GET BLAMED, WE GOT TO GET ON EVERYBODY. And my thing is you act like them DUDES IS WEAK. THEY'RE NOT WEAK. THEY'RE GUYS.

22:04 They got No, they got Who's not a guy over here, please? I'll wait. They got a really good running game, a really good offensive lineman. They can run.

22:10 They got They got offensive lineman, Shady. They got guys at running back. Oh, I can't do that.

22:15 SHADY MCLOFFLIN HAD 138 YARDS GOING INTO the game. I I'll say this, but I'm talking about the Bills have the 28th RJ's cool. RJ cool.

22:22 Yeah, but the Bills also have the 28th ranked rushing defense. You're supposed to get busier than 41 yards. And that might be game plan cuz they it wasn't like it wasn't like Jal McGoffin had a bad like yards per carry. He's four or 21, but as long as Carrie was 13 yards like like for both of their running backs have 41 yards combined,

22:38 I guess 28 rush as much as cuz I've been part of the problem. I've been saying all season

22:43 you got Shawn Payeyton over there though. I've been saying all season the Bills ain't got nobody. Bills ain't got nobody. BUT THEN I'M sitting here like

22:49 the Broncos got Pat, they got Bonito. Bonito is like dudes like supreme special defense is nice.

22:56 They're nice, but they don't have they don't have like superhuman dudes. But you can't you you can't say that when they number two

23:02 ranked defense in the league. YOU YOU CAN'T SAY THAT. BUT WHEN WHEN when they were making plays on Patrick Chertan today, which I didn't I didn't know that was even possible. You know what I mean? I'm not going to do that. But but the the the Bills definitely don't have a better team than the Broncos.

23:13 No, no, but I'm saying it's not that it's not like it's a nightmare. Funga is a dog.

23:17 He can play. If we sat here and we said, you know what? We going we going to do the old school and we going to pick players. We going to draft players RIGHT?

23:26 WE DRAFTING WAY MORE BRONCOS than Bills. But here's what I'm saying. I think I think the top 10 would be much more close than we think.

23:34 All right. Because Josh, James Cook, Dawkins are all going in the top 10. So at minimum at at best you going to go 73 at best.

23:43 Okay. So forget top three. It's 11. It's 11 22 players. 22 players is going to play this that's playing this game, right? If you run through them, it's going to be way more Bronco players.

23:52 I just don't I today I just didn't look at the Broncos roster and go like, man, they're a bunch of world beaters. I'm like,

23:58 you have one side of the ball that's like that's tough, though. And and I I think that like the Bills, you can look on both sides of the ball. It it's you have some players, but there's they're not they're not a dominant force. Like the the Bills defense or sorry, the Broncos defense, without that defense, they don't win the game today. Without them, without them early games, they'd be forcing 17 points and turnovers.

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Who speaks in ""THE REFS WON NOT THE BRONCOS!" - Shady GOES NUCLEAR on Refs in Broncos vs. Bills game"?

Shady McCoy (Guest).

What is ""THE REFS WON NOT THE BRONCOS!" - Shady GOES NUCLEAR on Refs in Broncos vs. Bills game" about?

The discussion focuses on the controversial officiating during the Broncos vs. Bills game, highlighting a disputed interception call against Bills player Cook. The speaker argues that the play should have been reviewed, emphasizing that if possession is unclear, the tie typically goes to the offense, and expresses frustration over the lack of thoroughness in the referees' decision-making during…

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How long is ""THE REFS WON NOT THE BRONCOS!" - Shady GOES NUCLEAR on Refs in Broncos vs. Bills game"?

The episode runs 24 min; the transcript is about 5,705 words in 134 timestamped sections.

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