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ANDREW SANTINO JOINS THE SHOW - Ep 604

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "ANDREW SANTINO JOINS THE SHOW - Ep 604", an episode of Spittin' Chiclets published December 11, 2025 (3 h 25 min, about 47,577 words). It mentions 23 people, works and ideas, including NHL, Ryan Whitney, Andrew Santino, Keith Yandle, Colorado Avalanche.

What this episode is about

In this episode, Andrew Santino and Ryan Whitney discuss the recent developments within the NHL, including Santino's potential full-time role with the Spit Chicks podcast, and Whitney's promotion of the pink Whitney beverage. They highlight the upcoming NHL Winter Classic featuring the Panthers and Rangers, the importance of cash back offers from Discover, and updates on player injuries and team performances as the season progresses.

Key takeaways

  • In the jungle of podcasting, teamwork turns spit into gold, especially with the right card for postgame wings.
  • The NHL's cash back perks can make even the toughest losses a little sweeter—take note, fans!
  • Colorado may reign supreme, but Florida’s climbing fast—this season might unfold like a thrilling playoff drama.
  • Every 20 years, nostalgia meets cabbage rolls; even hockey history has a taste for tradition!
  • In a world of split beds, going Dutch on sleep is the real MVP—everyone knows the middle is where the magic happens.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 15:00: Discover, Ray Whitney, Icecon, NHL
  2. – 30:00: Colorado Avalanche, Tampa Bay Lightning, Vegas Golden Knights, Ray Whitney
  3. – 45:00: Ryan Whitney
  4. – 1:00:00: Ray Whitney
  5. – 1:15:00: Andrew Santino, Body Armor, Game Time, David Spade
  6. – 1:45:00: Andrew Santino
  7. – 2:00:00: Curb Your Enthusiasm
  8. – 2:15:00: Andrew Santino
  9. – 2:45:00: Andrew Santino

Notable quotes from "ANDREW SANTINO JOINS THE SHOW - Ep 604"

  • Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle. That is Basel Sports.
    about Ryan Whitney · at
  • Cash back on team gear, jerseys, hats, cash back on tickets, cash back on French fries, etc., etc. The Discover NHL Winter Classic, like I mentioned, is taking place January 2nd, 2026 in Miami.
    about NHL · at
  • Out. So, can you guys list give me your, what you think of the top eight in terms of favorites? Colorado.
    about Colorado Avalanche · at
  • Like two or three stories where I had my jaw on the floor and maybe because Ray loves you so much that if you reached out, Yans, we'd be able to get him back.
    about Ray Whitney · at
  • And Keith, you'll you'll know what I'm saying as a defenseman like holding at the blue line with somebody coming at you like Yeah. Everyone hopes to give that head.
    about Keith Yandle · at
  • Couple big key pieces. And in the last five games, they beat the Tampa Bay Lightning twice. They've beaten the Colorado Avalanche handedly. And then they ended up beating the Vegas Golden Knights last night. And the only other.
    about Tampa Bay Lightning · at
  • Yeah, let's let's Yeah, exactly. Andrew Santino is an alltime comedian, very successful. we got to know him at the Internet Invitational. We were supposed to do a sandbagger with him.
    about Andrew Santino · at
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    about Body Armor · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Ryan Whitney — Person · Host / co-host (speaker in episode) · 2 mentions · first at
    Core on-mic personality; referenced in show banter and as part of the Spittin’ Chiclets hosting group.
  • Andrew Santino — Person · Main guest (interview subject) · 8 mentions · first at
    Featured interview guest; discussion centers on his comedy career, early jobs, and performing at The Comedy Store.
  • Keith Yandle — Person · Co-host / recurring on-mic contributor · 2 mentions · first at
    Active participant in hockey discussion and banter; addressed directly (“Yans”) and contributes analysis on defense/blue-line play.
  • Ray Whitney — Person · Referenced former NHL player / prior guest · 5 mentions · first at
    Discussed as a past interview subject (a lost/unused long interview) and as part of hockey nostalgia/inside stories.
  • Matthew Tkachuk — Person · Referenced NHL player · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of Winter Classic-related coverage and his status/health (“not that far away”).
    Looking forward to seeing that one. I saw it cover Matthew. Matthew seems like he's not that far away. Keith, from what I heard, he's on the ice skating which is huge. I think.
  • David Spade — Person · Referenced comedian (lineup example) · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as part of the Comedy Store lineup the guest performed on, used to illustrate the caliber of the show.
    That comedy store like we watched you last night. It was awesome. It was David Spade, yourself. who was it? Nick Croll. I recognize that name.
  • Nick Kroll — Person · Referenced comedian (lineup example) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned alongside other comedians to describe the Comedy Store show lineup and credibility of the night.
    That comedy store like we watched you last night. It was awesome. It was David Spade, yourself. who was it? Nick Croll. I recognize that name.
  • Chris B. — Person · Referenced participant (unclear identity) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned briefly as someone associated with an “assist” in show banter; insufficient context to uniquely identify.
    Yandle the song man is a full-time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris B. Whoa. We're buzzing right now. Honk.

Companies & orgs

  • NHL — Company · Core topic · 2 mentions · first at
    National Hockey League, the main subject of discussion in the podcast.
  • Colorado Avalanche — Company · Referenced team · 3 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as one of the top teams in the NHL.
  • Tampa Bay Lightning — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as one of the top teams in the NHL.
  • Vegas Golden Knights — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as one of the top teams in the NHL.
    After them, Florida Panthers, Vegas Golden Knights, Dallas Stars, Edmonton Oilers. So it goes Colorado's plus 320. makes sense. Carolina's plus 700. Tampa Bay is plus 800. Florida's plus 850. Vegas is plus 900. Dallas is.
  • Florida Panthers — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as one of the top teams in the NHL.
    After them, Florida Panthers, Vegas Golden Knights, Dallas Stars, Edmonton Oilers. So it goes Colorado's plus 320. makes sense. Carolina's plus 700. Tampa Bay is plus 800. Florida's.
  • Edmonton Oilers — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as one of the top teams in the NHL.
    Florida Panthers, Vegas Golden Knights, Dallas Stars, Edmonton Oilers. So it goes Colorado's plus 320. makes sense. Carolina's plus 700. Tampa Bay is plus 800. Florida's plus…

Places & events

  • NHL Winter Classic — Event · Referenced event · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as an upcoming NHL event.
    Cash back on team gear, jerseys, hats, cash back on tickets, cash back on French fries, etc., etc. The Discover NHL Winter Classic, like I mentioned, is taking place January 2nd, 2026 in Miami.
  • Icecon — Event · Referenced event · 3 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as an event related to hockey.
    Not a win. I saw you tweet out congrats. They got it done. That he has not won Icecon yet. Icecon, I believe, is in Chicago end of March or early April, I've been told. I will…
  • Chasing Goals — Event · Referenced event · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as an event related to hockey.
    He was in he was in St. Louis last night and I saw that you tweeted now. It went over IO was there. That is a chasing goals trip that they do. They've done several of these. I…
  • Miami — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the location for the NHL Winter Classic.
    Cash back on team gear, jerseys, hats, cash back on tickets, cash back on French fries, etc., etc. The Discover NHL Winter Classic, like I mentioned, is taking place January 2nd, 2026 in Miami.

Media & podcasts

  • Little Dicky — Media · Referenced media · 3 mentions
    Mentioned in passing during the podcast.
  • Curb Your Enthusiasm — Media · Referenced media · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in passing during the podcast.
    Say hey I'm in control of this and I can walk away. I was gonna ask you, so you mentioned Curb Your Enthusiasm. You played a pretty big part in Little Dicki show, right? That…

Sponsors

  • Discover — Company · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at
    Official credit card sponsor of the NHL, mentioned multiple times in the podcast.
    Going to be a special one because of Discover. This show is sponsored by Discover, the official credit card of the National Hockey League. No matter if your team wins or loses, Discover is there for you with cash back on all your.
  • Body Armor — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a sponsor of the podcast.
  • Game Time — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a sponsor of the podcast.
    Guys, let's just take a moment and talk about game time. We are a few days into the 12 days of game time, which means they are giving away prizes every day with a $5,000 grand prize at the end. If.

Full transcript with timestamps

Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle. That is Basel Sports. I uh brought it toward the Coyotes and I asked him if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicks podcast full time.

Ryan Whitney got a pink Whitney out there now. Bagger. Get that on camera. Yandle the song man is a full-time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris B. Whoa. We're buzzing right now. Honk.

What is up, folks? Welcome to episode 604 of the Spit and Chicklets broadcast presented by Discover Winter Classics. Going to be a special one because of Discover. This show is sponsored by Discover, the official credit card of the National Hockey League. No matter if your team wins or loses, Discover is there for you with cash back on all your postgame purchases. With the Discover IT card, you can earn cash back on every purchase. So, celebratory wings just got even better. Learn more at discover.com/creditard, cash back on team gear, jerseys, hats, cash back on tickets, cash back on French fries, etc., etc. The Discover NHL Winter Classic, like I mentioned, is taking place January 2nd, 2026 in Miami.

Panthers versus the Rangers. Tune in to TNT. Get cash back on every purchase with the Discover it card. Learn more at discover.com/creditard. I actually saw they're doing a um

I saw they're doing a kind of a what was the old school name of the show um of the following of the team

247 247 was the old one. So they're doing what? Road to the Winter Classic. Looking forward to seeing that one. I saw it cover Matthew. Matthew seems like he's not that far away. Keith,

from what I heard, he's on the ice skating uh which is huge. I think they're on a little bit of a road trip right now out west. the the uh the Cats, but I'm pretty sure I heard that he's on the ice skating, which is

that's bad news for everybody else. That's bad news for the 31 other teams. That's scary. That's scary. And um I was just on a show, a house call with Rico and Jerry where we're just I I gave a TD uh TD score this week. For anyone interested, I gave Kan Booty for the New England Patriots. Uh I love his last name. You know, I love the booty. Um, and randomly they asked me NHL and let me try to find it here. I said, uh, they were looking for futures and it was kind of I was like, "Oh, I got to check that out." So, can you guys list give me your, uh, what you think of the top eight in terms of favorites? Colorado.

Yep. Colorado. I bet you they still have they I was guess Edmonton or Carolina in the second slot.

Carolina second. I know. It's like guys, Dallas, they're going to lose in the conference finals again.

Dallas. Surprising. Surprising. Dallas. Dallas sits in the six spot right now. Vegas three.

No. I was shocked at the third one. Florida. Tampa Bay Lightning. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Wow.

After them, Florida Panthers, Vegas Golden Knights, Dallas Stars, Edmonton Oilers. So it goes Colorado's plus 320. makes sense. Carolina's plus 700. Tampa Bay is plus 800. Florida's plus 850. Vegas is plus 900. Dallas is 10 to1 and the Oilers are 12 to1. Uh after that, it's the Capitals at 18 to1. So, it kind of makes it seem like those seven are, you know, much bigger than I mean, I think it's a pretty big jump 12 from 12 to1 to 18 to1. But yeah, Carolina's they're going to lose in the conference finals. We all know that. And and I think Dallas being 10 to1 is based on that they'd have to play Colorado in the second round, right? If they're Pacific, I think that they're higher.

Um, but I I was interested to see that. Yeah, Bis, you called it. They always have car I thought you were going to say Carolina. So, they're right.

Carolina, they they just had their what was it 20 year anniversary, all the guys in town, so the things might be switching a little bit. You get the wizard back in the building, the old 20 years.

Yeah, I get every 20 years. You never know. I heard they had um cabbage rolls for the buffet.

That was nice of them. Back some old memories from from Ray Whitney. By the way, I think we've talked about this before. We did like an 80 to 90 minute interview with Ray Whitney. And

it somehow we ended up getting lost. And I don't know if if we're going to be able to get him back on. I don't know if he's pissed cuz he's like, "Fuck, I gave you 90 minutes of our time." But

I swear to God, Biz, I respect him for being like, "No, not he won't come back. He'll come back on.

Sometimes you got to tip your cap and be like, "I get it. I get it, Ray. I get it."

The only thing that would save us is the fact that Merles Yans wasn't on at the time, but Merles was. And Merles was awesome as as a filling in that one, too. He brought some

Yeah. Yeah. But like that one in particular, I remember him striking up like two or three stories where I had my jaw on the floor and uh and maybe because Ray loves you so much that if you reached out, Yans, we'd be able to get him back.

Yeah. Want me text him right now? Yeah. that you guys go way back. He is my family. He is my family. Um

I remember he always used to skate by you and go what up cuz tell him uh tell him that we we uh uh fire and stoned the person uh who lost it as part of our team and we'd love to have you back on and we were talking about it on the podcast cuz I don't know if he's like an everyday listener.

So Biz behind you is your bed. I know you're in Atlanta. Got to do a couple good games last night. Um, you're just when you have that big old bed, you just sleep one side, never in the middle.

No, I sleep in the middle. Yeah, it just looks like it. I always get off on on that side of the bed, but uh

I know you get off in bed. I know that. Wait, you sleep right in the middle of the bed?

I mean, uh, yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah, I think as I asked that, I realized maybe that is a little different. Maybe most people in a big bed just pick a side. No, I I tend to lean more towards the middle. Like I might be like a a foot like not center, but I don't know.

I I take as much as I can because I get brief starfishes. So I'm on like 8% of this enormous bed we have when we sleep.

That's like a female thing. Spongebob, that's a female thing. They could be 42 and weigh 80 lbs and they're taking up 75% of the bed.

I take up this much room. That's how I feel. The thing is though is should actually start picking a side even when I'm sleeping by myself because if I do hose the bed at least I can go on the other half as opposed to like oh now I'm sleeping like where I only get like a foot and a half of the bed.

Yeah. So cuz you know when I go it's [ __ ] it's go time. It's about 17 lers. I got more [ __ ] piss in my bladder than my my diesel truck has a

You haven't peed the bed in a while though right? Yeah. Two months. Uh no. I think the last time I hosed a bed was at um Internet Invitational.

Okay. Twice. That That's the last time we talked about it. All right. Yeah. I think it was the time zone change in the humidity that that did it, but we don't need to get into that.

And you had the one day I was out there with you, you I think you had 27 waters.

Yeah. Like it it was like even like somebody who's constantly talking about hydration, it they would have been like, "Dude enough."

Yeah. Well, that's cuz I was hanging out with the Duke that day and I was smoking his LA crack and I was just like, I need this. I need I if I didn't if I didn't drink all that water, I wouldn't have made it out of the Ozark. So, now speaking of that, we got to promote since we're talking about golf. We do have the Duke coming up for a sandbagger, but there's another one that's dropping today and that's on the Spit and Chickles you YouTube channel. 430,000 subscribers.

We've gotten two grand. Was it 28 at the end of Monday? Monday. It was like 26 or 27 and then all of a sudden with the the the chicklets use and everything else like the the the ball hockey uh vlog like everything that we dropped all of a sudden it just skyrocketed.

I do have some big news, Biz. In the past 5 minutes, we got to 431. Okay. Okay. Okay. I really really love that. I thought there was going to be a trade or something announced, but I think Biz would rather that than find out Crosby went to Colorado for me.

He both said the same thing. What? What did he say that? He said the exact same thing.

Whoa. Yeah, we're on the same wavelength right now, buddy. That's a good thing.

Holy [ __ ] dude. Every 10 people it goes up on YouTube, just interrupt and come in and tell us.

Yeah. And if you watch this uh this sandbagger with Paige, I hope everyone does. Very entertaining. You'll see Biz and I were not on the same wavelength for this match.

No, I actually you guys are [ __ ] brutal. And uh one of you guys had something taken out of the video. Whatever. That's okay. But for the amount that you guys pile on and [ __ ] on me, I feel like you guys should have to bear some of it, too. Okay, listen. Listen. What was taken out of the video,

if that was something where one of us was made fun of by you, it never would have come out,

right? Ever. So, that's like not a great analogy. Do you know what I'm saying? Sure.

Not take back my I take back the same thing I said that you just said. I That could have been one of the worst analogies I've ever heard.

It was a great one. And I hope you pee the bed tonight. It's So do I. Those are my usually my best sleeps. That means I hit my REM cycle. But it's an incredible bagger. Down to the wire. Uh Pais was an incredible partner. She calmed me down, helped me with my swing. She's an incredible coach. I love her.

I I I I I I should have proposed. I should have brought the ring. I didn't. I was a [ __ ] But Simp Nasty

is out in full force in this one. That's for sure. The only thing I didn't have on that day was was a dog collar.

But she could have put her on me and walked me around and I would have thrown it on. I would have been like RA at the Stanley Cup finals with that diamond encrusted dog collar if she wanted it on my neck. So, Paige, I love you.

I don't know if you love me back, but that's all I got. Is that true? You had a butt plug in for the whole match though.

That's I'm not I I I'm not discussing that. I Guys, is that the remote thing that she had? You guys, you guys are on the same wavelength now, eh? You bunch of [ __ ] bullies.

But you guys were a really good team, though. We were. It was incredible. And so are you guys. And I had a blast. And And I hope we run it back

and I hope everybody We have to. And I think people are going to If you don't like this one, you're nuts. You're nuts.

Nuts. It was just ridiculous. A ridiculous four hours on the golf course. I'll never forget it. Um, get your mind out of the gutter, folks. It was Biz's butt plug that really got me going the whole time. Um, you mentioned Merl's Biz.

Yes, he was in he was in St. Louis last night and I saw that you tweeted now. It went over IO was there. That is a chasing goals uh trip that they do. They've done several of these. I believe they went to Detroit. They might have gone to Columbus. That's just random. A chasing goals trip. Icecon, which is what people have, you know, become aware of.

That is that is the true cult um of the Ice people that they're 0 and2. That is not a win. I saw you tweet out um congrats. They got it done. That he has not won Icecon yet. Icecon, I believe, is in Chicago end of March or early April, I've been told. I will never miss an Icecon. I I hope I'm not giving that away. I don't I don't I think that's that's finalized. But, uh they they haven't won an Icecon. We haven't won an ice con, I should say. So, we got to get one of those. But, congrats. Merles and Elio did hit that over and I said, "Jesus, guys, you went to watch the Blues." They had to Missouri, right?

Yes. Yes. The Show Me State just DraftKings just went live. What classifies an Icecon? Does Dave have to be in attendance?

I think it's like there's more that goes into it than just a chasing goal strip. There's merch given out to everyone. There's an enormous meet and greet the night before. There's a It's just a more scaled up version of Chasing Goals is Icecon Gone.

Okay. That's when like the the the the one kid from the check comes like they're

they have some insane followers. Yeah. It's a cult. And and there is now a kid who was there last year smothered just as drunk as a skunk, annoying, crippled, buckled, any word you want to say. He takes the under. He shows up and in Elio's face, he bets the under.

And he was there again last night. So, they got to stuff it in his face. Luckily, he even had a shirt. I believe five and a half uh goals equals 9 $9.99 pizzas cuz Elio owns Tony's place. I believe it's West Roxbury or Hide Park. And when he goes on losing streaks, the the pizzas become cheaper. And so, that's what that guy made a shirt about it, but he was the real loser last year. He owns that pizza place. That place

bomb. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, it's unbelievable. What's the name of it again? Tony's, right?

Tony's Place. Now, uh he makes them cheaper so they sell more of them to recoup his losses.

Yes. Oh my god. So, if you see the $9.99 large cheese pizza at Tony's place, things are not going well. Draftings for Elio. Unreal.

Yeah, it was a funny shirt. Actually, I'll give the guy credit. If he was as drunk as last time, though, I I mean I

I saw uh uh HQ spider getting in his face. That's the only clip that that's what I finally like came to realize like, oh, they have like a heckler. You know you're you know you're big time Merles if you got a heckler.

Yeah. When the haters come out, you know you've made it. They don't People don't boo nobody's cuz

you ever heard that saying? Yeah. Well, you see them sitting in the stands watching morning skate.

Yeah, I was [ __ ] Merles is funny. Merles's parlay included uh a Jake Neighbors goal, which I I didn't mind at all, the over and then um Oscar Sunquist to get one. And I was like, "What is this?" He's like, he plays on the power play. He's out there in the last minute. Out there in the last minute when they're trying to protect the lead like the Blues have been trying to protect so many leads lately. I can't stop burping.

He also had a Zaka anytime goal whether it was regulation or overtime. He took that live. I think he took that late in the second period

and it was big. It was big. It was a nice pop for him. I think he ended up making about uh like 3,500 bucks. So, I don't know if as far as overs are concerned. I don't know if you guys caught the TNT games last night. Unbelievable.

I mean, the first one Vegas, the Islanders are mustwatch hockey now, boys. Dude, it's awesome. Did you see the clip I just retweeted? I think it's Dmitri Filipovich of Schaefer last night.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was watching it live in the flesh. He was doing a little shake and bake special at the line. He's he's essentially he's got that Lane Hudson, Quinn Hughes, Kale Mar like maybe like maybe not as as highend doing it as often, but on the blue line when he's walking the line like he shimmy shakes and shakes and bakes and he makes guys miss. He's a oneman show out there.

And Keith, you'll you'll know what I'm saying as a defenseman like holding at the blue line with somebody coming at you like Yeah. Everyone hopes to give that head fake and that quick, you know, stutter step, but like the balls it takes to do it. He turned 18 like a day before the season started. Like I I can't believe what I'm watching with him. And the skating biz, you're right, Macar is so smooth and just it's just so fluid and Lane Hudson is kind of herkyjerky but so quick and dynamic. He's kind of combination of them both skating cuz he has those quick little moments, but he also once the stride gets going, it's like, okay, he's gliding past people who are very fast and in the NHL for a reason.

Just incredible. I think the little moves that he makes on the blue line won't look as like fluid as maybe a Mar or Hudson just cuz he's taller and it but he but he he gets it done and it it gets done in a perfect way. I was wondering that with like when we were coming up if you ever turn the puck over at the blue line a there was maybe two guy I think Carlson was kind of the first one that was really doing it all the time and but it it it was at a point where it was you couldn't do that it wasn't allowed but nowadays like if you had the skill work it just seems like the coaches are like hey dude let it fly at the blue line because they probably just trust that he can he can catch whoever unless he blows a wheel and falls he can catch whoever if if he does lose the puck at the blue, he'll pick them up.

That's a great point, Yans. I I don't like even like Duncan Keith like I don't know if I remember.

That wasn't his game. That wasn't his game really. But still, he had that he kind of had that Lane Hudson where he probably could have,

but it just like I'm sure Q I mean, he won't let you throw [ __ ] backhand passes in your own hand. I would imagine he doesn't want you trying to shake and bake at the ozone line when you're last guy back. But who would you say was the innovator of that? Was it Mar

or you guys talked about Carlson doing it? Like who was the first guy to Was Zubov doing that [ __ ]

I was just going to say Zubov maybe, but I think he was more give and go. Give and go.

Give and go. Give and go. Uh yeah, Carlson was so so nasty at just head up and making moves up top. And I I don't mean to sound like old boomer wit, but I hope these young guys appreciate the fact that they are allowed to basically if you're that top level player, you're allowed to try anything you want now.

And I I think that that probably makes the game, not probably, it makes the game way more enjoyable to watch as a fan with these guys trying moves and you're seeing things pulled off. But before, I don't think it was that common where you were given the green light. Like, hey, show your skill off. Like, do what's gotten you here at such a young age. Whereas before, it was kind of like, hey, dude, that worked. Don't try it again. Forget like if it didn't work.

Remember, and I remember working with you in the summertimes. Remember how Lidstrom used to get the puck at like the wall and then just walk and but he would walk with like, you know, his back and just fake shot, fake shot, and then maybe push it. He wasn't dancing around like these guys do now. So what they're doing is different. It's it's next level [ __ ] And I [ __ ] love watching it.

It's like you did it biz. It's like Dana White in the poker or in the blackjack room. That type of [ __ ]

Yeah. $500,000 hands. Like that's the type of like that's the alligator blood that they're playing with. And I don't know what you were going to say with but just to quickly put the Islanders into perspective right now. They lose Paul Mary. They lose uh Ro is it Romanov? How do you pronounce his name? Romanov.

Romanov. I've always said Romanov. I think Romanov. It's not Romanov. I think you said it right. Romanov.

Romanov. So, they lose those two guys. Couple big key pieces. And in the last five games, they beat the Tampa Bay Lightning twice. They've beaten the Colorado Avalanche handedly. And then they ended up beating the Vegas Golden Knights last night. And the only other loss that they sustained were to the back backtoback Stanley Cup champs. I think they were playing in a backto back um in South Florida. They lost 4-1. So they go four of the last five and then that those were that that was their competition. So I mean stick taps and it's not just the top end guys like Bo Horvat. I know like we were in the tech text thread last night. You're like ah he's probably on the outside looking in.

You'd be very shocked if they made the Olympic team. 19 goals man. Like he's well on pace to set a career high. So he's buzzing. You could just tell Barcel looks a lot happier where I feel like they were putting a bit of a you know they were putting the the what do you call the governor on him a little bit offensively where I feel like Patrick W is just like hey go boys play the way that you want to play but just be responsible defensively work your [ __ ] [ __ ] off and the other thing too is their bottom two lines man that that Cal Richie because they have Horvat and Barzel is the one too it frees him up a little bit I think he's averaging like just over 12 minutes of ice That homestrom looked incredible last night and basically that bottom six, the way they forch checked, the way that they were cycling the puck and chewing up clock and wearing down Vegas. very very impressed by the way that they

played and and of course Sroken and and the boys brought up a good point on the panel like they they can run and gun a little bit more and exchange chances knowing that you got a guy back there who year-over-year I think he's sub two uh 2.5 goals against average and well into the 900 save percentage. So, he's he's all worlds since he came in and uh this is probably one of the the um biggest surprises in the league this year going from where the draft was to now. I don't think anybody expected this and especially how rocking that building and for how boring it's been the last

the building looks very alive and we've we said it earlier that you get the first overall pick and it happens to be what looks like a generational player. It changes the entire course of the franchise and it's happened and they did a great job last year. Like that Brock Nelson trade was hard to move. That Richie kid's going to be awesome. And Brock Nelson's really kind of found his game. Remember it was a slow start for him. He walked Roman Yosi in the first minute of the game last night. Like you don't see Yos You don't see Yosi get beat like that. That was that was phenomenal. The I was going to say quickly maybe Phil Hley did it. I don't remember his game, but the amount of points he was getting, maybe he was dancing on the blue line a little bit like we're talking about. I just don't remember. Uh I don't remember that.

Well, um yeah, Islanders a lot of fun. I did appreciate last night Lungquist on the broadcast. He It's hard to do. He kind of gave it to Shroken a little bit on the Hannneathan goal and the Marner goal. The rebound control wasn't necessarily great.

Yeah, the the pop. I don't know if they had the scouting report out on them because it seems like they were doing that quite a bit where they were just trying to lay a soft one in on that far side pad for the big juicy rebound, but nonetheless, great games between the first and the second one. Each of them went to a a shootout. The bizarre thing, and we also talked about this, I think we were texting about this morning and you were like, "Wait a minute." So,

that was crazy. Yeah. Uh uh Wedgewood ends up getting ran into by Forsberg on a penalty shot. He like caught a rut and like barrels him over and it was it looked like a nasty collision, but Wedgewood was obviously all right after he shook it off. So Nashville gets one more shooter in which Wedgewood stops. Now Colorado is trying to go down to the other end to score in order to to like extend the shootout cuz at that point Nashville's up by one. And then all of a sudden the refs are like whoa whoa whoa. They're getting the call. The spotter the spotter is like no Wedgewood has to come out of the net. You got to put Blackwood in where even Wedgewood's like, "What the [ __ ] is he talking about?" Like, I got ran over. I shook it off and I'm [ __ ] ready to go. I just made a goddamn save

and now you're going to put Blackwood in cold to potentially make more if this thing keeps going. And

he was already at the tin roof. Yeah. Exactly. And if you're Wedgewood, like I don't know how this works. Like if they end up tying it on that next shot and then Blackwood makes a save and then they go down and win it, does all of a sudden Blackwood get the W?

That's a great question. I bet you how the [ __ ] does that work? So Wedgewood's like, "No, I worked my [ __ ] off all game. I'm not [ __ ] don't coming out."

I have like I have a bonus in my contract for wins or something. Like what's I don't even think you can have those anymore. Good call. If you're over 40, I think you can or over

I can't believe I can't believe the spotter like if if Forsick runs into him the way he did your job, whatever. You take him out. He literally m you you let him go another shooter. Like I at that point you have to be like, "Okay, I missed my spot. No pun intended. He's staying in." Like you can't then pull him. And if you witnessed that and saw the Foresburg collision, what took you long enough where another guy got to shoot before he comes out that Lyles, who's very a mildmannered guy, John Michael Lyles, he's like, what the [ __ ] is going on on Twitter? He's like, I don't understand this. And I don't think anyone else did, too. So, I mean, a goalie to come into a game cold is one thing. To come into a shootout, that's got to be way harder, right? Like, you just have somebody with skill coming down a breakaway. Mike Morrison used to do it for when I was in Phoenix. Who was the goalie? And then Mike Morrison would

come in just for the shootouts. Oh, they Yeah, I remember that. They would they did it in Edmonton, too, I believe.

Yeah. One guy was the one guy they had was brutal at shootouts and he was okay coming out

and they would just come in. Yeah. Really? Yeah. But that's going to be maybe a goalie would tell you it's actually easier to do a breakaway than come into like five on five or something. I don't know.

I don't know. your groins like you're automatically going to have to go down and I don't know that'd be we'd have to ask a goalie.

Um what was incredible about Tuesday night was that we had an NHL record in which four games were tied up with less than 15 seconds to go. I believe the prior record was three. and G grabbed this stat. Great work here that um

little nuggy this year's NHL season has featured 372 close contests. Now, what makes a close contest is a onegoal margin or two plus with an empty net goal. Uh which is the most at this stage of a season in league history ahead of last year that was 356. So, you're getting some great games. You're getting a lot of action. Now, I think Pittsburgh Penguins fans might be more disgusted with last night's ending than anything I've ever seen. There is a screenshot

of somebody on the Anaheim Ducks with the puck in their own zone in front of their own goalie with 10 seconds left short-handed and they won the [ __ ] game.

Now, Brian Rust, incredible hockey player. Chris Latang, possible Hall of Famer. That was maybe the most pathetic defense I've ever seen in my life before superstar rookie Beck Beckett Senaki ties the thing up and they go on to lose an OT the Penguins shoot

a little tire pump before we go get a little bit negative on the Penguins for that one. Uh didn't Senaki also set a record?

I don't know. Did he? I believe Senaki right now is like one of the youngest players to hit 26 points um as a as a teen. Help me out here G. Is it not on the

first teenager in Ducks history to reach 25 points? Wow. Okay, that's what it is. Okay. Well, still good cuz I mean they've had Cory Perry, they had Ryan Getlo. Like there is a very

I wonder if those guys were uh in the miners that lockout year though when they were 19.

Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. But no, no, it's still it's still amazing. Like to break a record at anything is amazing.

So going back to the play itself, you're up a goal. Okay, so Anaheim takes a penalty, I believe, with about 20 seconds left. There's a face off in the offensive zone. Okay, I Carlson's been unreal this year. And so Latang, are are those the two guys you want out there in that situation? Are those your like like I would basically send out my penalty kill unit. has been their like last minute up a goal guy this year. One of them at least. So at least he get him out there. Yeah. You're saying why are you two power play guys out there?

Yeah. And and on top of that too, like you see when Anaheim takes control of the puck uh in their own end like Rust Latanganger and Carlson and I know they stretched one or two guys, but they're backed up like 5 10 ft already inside their zone. So there's no gap whatsoever. So, it was just horrible coverage. They give up the line. Senaki is able to gain all that speed. He ends up walking Latang one-on-one and the worst possible bounce going off. You see how it hit Carlson's glove and ended up going between Sheiloff's legs. So, I don't know. I just thought that they handed that one over and if you're Pittsburgh, you can't afford to give away that point. That's just that's the one at the end of the year when you miss by a point or two where you look back and you're like, "Motherfucker."

Yeah. No. That that if they miss by a by one point Oh. I don't think that I don't think there's anything wrong with having those two guys out there like like having if they had five forwards like the Leafs do then you'd be like okay what are we doing? But I mean those guys have played so many big NHL games that played power play penalty killed five on five. It shouldn't have happened.

Yeah. Okay. So, but I mean you go to Tampa and like this discussions happen like if you go to the last minute of the game uh it's not usually Headman on the ice. Like if you go back to when they were winning their championships, it was Ryan Mcdana out there. So I think that you have to you have to have those types of guys that you're like we're not giving up a goal type [ __ ] maybe rather than like Latang Carlson. And that's not taking anything away from them, but I don't think that either of those guys are known for their shutdown defense.

That's just not what they're known for. And they wouldn't be upset if they weren't out there either, I'm sure. Like you just happy to get the win.

They probably already played 24 minutes each. So, I don't know. I put it this way. When I was on Pittsburgh and Gonchar and I were running the power or he was running the power play, but we were on the first power play, if we were up a goal at the end of the game, even on the power play, and they said Whitney Gonchar would have been like, "What?

Not a chance." Scuds would be like, "Hey, sit this one down." Yeah. Scuds and Orpic are like, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think so. This is not happening." But the the the late game heroics were awesome. As we mentioned, Senaki scored with 11 seconds left. Dora Feev scored with 14 seconds left to tie it up. Uh, Vegas Islanders. McDavid. Oh my god. Edmonton and Buchard. Holy [ __ ] McDavid scored with a second left and Kale Mar scored with 8 seconds left to tie it up in the Nashville Colorado game. So, pretty sick, dude, that you get those type of endings on a pretty good slate of games.

But to get into Edmonton real quick, the start of the game it Buffalo played the night before they got waxed by Calgary. Now sometimes there is something to be said that the team that is playing on a backto-back with not crazy travel by any means. They almost have a leg up, right? Like sometimes that's the case where they're moving their feet and they're going and they'd played the night before and it just comes more natural at the beginning. But still not three nothing down and in two of the goals the first goal and by the way Josh Don like that trade Buffalo won that trade

million%. Josh Don looks phenomenal. He has 11 goals now I think. How many does what's his name?

I think he just hit 10 didn't he? He just hit the double digits and you got the defenseman right? So, you're also laughing at the fact that it was it was two players for one and the forwards pretty much matching your goal output. Uh,

and he had to pay perkurk a seven sheets where donor's I believe in his last year of entry level.

Yeah, but he ends the year with 27 goals. What's he getting? No, I know. Yeah, good for donor.

Oh, Purka has 12 goals. Sorry. So, Purka's ahead, but you guys know what I'm getting at there.

Oh, for sure. Um, but Bousard is standing next to Don on the power play. And granted, it was a nice tip, but he's just like standing there. And then the the I think the best Bousard turnover we've ever seen on the second goal by Ta Thompson. Like that is the Bard we know and we love. He steps out from behind the net. Like it is a five on breakout as the first drill in practice. And Ta Thompson, you could tell he's like, "What the fuck?" as he takes it off his stick and buries it and then gives the point at the goal. Like, "Yeah, that's a goal. You literally just gave me the puck. I've never seen anything like that, but thank you very much. A wild wild event for uh the Bouch Bomb, Bardi Bouch, as as Grrenelli has called him. But still, they come back and McDavid ties it. Unreal. The place went bananas. It looked like an unreal atmosphere. Incredible moment there. He ties it up. One second to go.

Well, how about 10 They're down three nothing. Beginning of the third period, he's like, "All right, I'm just going to take this into my own hands." 10 seconds in. Boom. off of. He's so good at taking those pucks off the wall and then he's gone. Like normally guys take like Cooch is obviously good at it. He's good at like picking it off and then it's on his forehand to make the play. But as far as like skating into it and then like making a mohawk turn and next thing you know he's [ __ ] flying down the ice. McDavid is like from his own end he does it and the offenses only he does it.

Just an absolute [ __ ] freak of nature. Now I want to ask you though about that overtime goal. Okay,

that was that was I think on McDavid a little bit. Okay, so let me Okay, so definitely McDavid's guy originally. So as they go in the zone, it's Bouch has that low guy, but there's

on the wall. You're talking right on the wall. But there's back pressure from Leon. Okay. So it's not like B is like closing on these guys quickly, right?

No. So as he rolls up, Leon's like, "Well, I'm closer. He's peeling off and he's not a threat. He's rolling up top. I'm I would figure Boo might as well just stay down low. And it's not like he didn't have time to like stop and then like take a couple quick strides back towards his net where he would have been in totally fine position to like intercept the pass if it came through. He kind of just lazily turns around and kind of as he do does it, he realizes that the guy might be passing it. So he's facing towards the guy who's wide open from the net and he just kind of like swings his stick. Yeah.

So, it's it's the [ __ ] body language and like the quick twitch and you're a [ __ ] defenseman.

You left out the best part. The best part was honestly I might have laughed more at this than the turnover. Did you see right after the goal goes in, he like one hand scoops the puck out of the net and then has the stick go around his body and grab it on the other side? Like I'm like

it's [ __ ] unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Normally a guy would be taking a slap shot against the boards and he's working on his one-handed tow drags. Like I love

believe that's how his response is just like, "Oh, let me grab that." And oh, the stick's back here. I got to grab it over.

I have said this. I would never wear another man's jersey with another man's name on my back. I'm getting a Bouch jersey. Like

Bardi Bouch. And I'm guessing that he Listen, this is this is talking out of turn. I'm not in that locker room, but I would be surprised if he's not coming in the locker room like

we'll get him tomorrow, boys. Like I don't see if you're grabb hand if you're grabbing the puck. If you did that turnover on the second goal and then you're grabbing the puck out of the net on the OT winner like that, there's no way you're coming in the room like pissed off.

He leans over to Skinner. He's like, "Hey, did you see that rocket in the fourth row behind you after they they buried?"

No. Like, you see my one-handed tow drag out of the when I get the puck out of the

imagine what Dave King would have done to me if I did a back behind the back tow drag

getting the stick on the other side of the body is straight up men's league like you just lost in overtime to the Buffalo Sabres.

He's walk he's walking in everybody's [ __ ] fuming. He's like you guys see what the 50/50 was tonight?

He's he's he's flipping the puck up on his stick as he's walking in the room. He's like, "Hey, what's up, boys? Look at this. Woo." He's like Swaggy P. He's Swaggy P.

Oh, hey, did you see that? Did you see that recent video that Swaggy Posted where it got shared?

That's old. That's old. That's the most ridiculous move where he catches it in the air. Tow drags it in the air.

That one was old. I think it's okay. It just came across my timeline where I was like, "This thing got shared like over 300,000 times and there was like celebrity rockets in his in his messages being like, "That's the sexiest thing I've ever seen." Like, he's getting laid cuz he's doing these [ __ ] moves, man. The one.

So, I was a little I'm a little older than Swaggy P. Uh, so I had to ask Keith like I I never played against him or anything growing up, but Keith had mentioned. So for people who know Swaggy P as an influencer with some of the silkiest, nastiest mits you've ever seen, he was unreal at hockey. Like they Keith, you lost to them seven 6'5 and he had six points, right?

No, it was 67. 67. No, I think it was I think it was 8-7. They had 10 shots on net. Swaggy had seven points and uh yeah, they beat us eight, but he would like you would think he was just like a dangler. He [ __ ] worked his dick off, Biz. He was in the fight. He was a nasty player, man. He was unbel If he was three inches bigger, he'd still be playing.

Hey, that's why you put that's why you put him on the Boston Stranglers for the the Chicklet Cup. No wonder what a guy, too.

The the Bouch turnover and remember uh Gabri came on and he said that story where I turned one over to him.

Bes was way worse than yours. It was the same exact thing. No, except it wasn't an HD, which is nice. You You passed it. I thought

I thought I thought he like hit it off my stick, but either way, I thought you kind of dished it to him. That one was like, "Hey, I'm I'm I'm I'm doing a five on breakout at the beginning of practice." And then, "Oh, there's a guy here. We're playing an NHL game and it's Tage Thompson." Uh, also, shout out 67. I had this guy DM me. Whit, if you're not counting to seven when breaking the team down, you're missing out. I'm coaching an 8U team in Michigan and say Musky's on seven. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. The team loses it. So, I have a new thing for the team. Also, somebody sent me a new 67 handshake. Keith, I shared that one with you.

Anyone who hates 67 [ __ ] don't listen to the And you can hate me and hate 67, but I ain't stopping.

I wish you were 6'7. I would fight someone to death who didn't like 67. Exactly.

Swords. I love it. I absolutely love it. But hey, game prior though, uh, Buffalo got smoked by Calgary. I think it was the final was 74. And apparently Tage Thompson after the game was like still in his gear and just so rattled. So a huge a huge win after [ __ ] being up three, giving up the lead in the third period and then and then and then getting the OT dub. It was Tuck who scored the OT dub, right?

Yeah. And I saw unbelievable pass by Mloud. like he he's on the wall and you can see like he does the shoulder look and he doesn't try to just get it to him quick. He's like, "All right, let me hold off Leon and let Bouch get the puck out of the net and tow drag it." But like he made such a good play just like shoulder checking, not trying to force it right away and gets it to his forehand makes or whatever and makes an unbelievable pass.

I could talk about Bouch for the next 20 minutes. Yeah, Pete Pete Blackburn tweeted um

not the only goal that or something to the extent of like uh yeah, we could see Alex Tuck scoring more goals at Rogers this year. I would do anything to have Alex Tuck on that team.

I don't know. That just means another year of of them not making playoffs like that.

Buffalo's not making the playoffs. What are you talking about? I don't I I listen I I get where you're coming from. It was a a huge win to get that two points. They're not that far from a wild card. Were they seven points out of a spot would be they'd have to go on a miracle run here. I know the look you're giving me, but at at a certain point things got to [ __ ] turn around now, don't they? I called them pathetic online. Their whole fan base is attacking me. Uh-huh.

Their fan base is the best. I know, but their fan base doesn't deserve this. No,

but their fan base knows we ain't making the playoffs. Like Chris, I I actually was reminded because uh Heat Daddy and Schmaltzy did like a show in Buffalo last week and I saw the pictures they posted

and all the Sabres fans like all the Sabres gear they have like all the old jerseys and I was I kind of thought back to that that um the when Carolina won it when Buffalo lost in game seven that year with I think one regular defenseman playing like everyone was out and the Brian Campbell over the over the glass penalty. And I just thought back to the Chris Drury, Daniel Breier, that arena and that city is such a hockey town. It

Tim Conley, remember how good Tim Connley was? It makes me sick for them. They are they are a top top five fan base in the NHL. They're showing up. They're watching the playoffs more than some of the cities with the teams in the playoffs. And they can't get in the playoffs. And they're not making it this year. And it makes me sick to say I love you, Buffalo. I love you, but I'm sorry.

0.00%. 0.0000%. No, give them at least 1%. Come on. We love Buffalo. Give them I'm being a realist here, guys. Right now, they are sitting in dead last in the Eastern Conference. They're seven points out of the second wild card spot. They have to hop eight teams, boys.

It doesn't matter that you're seven points back when you have eight teams above you.

Any game in hand? Not 10. Let's see. Everyone else has games in hand. [ __ ] No. No. They got a game in hand on one team. The New York Rangers and the New York Islanders.

Okay. All the New York teams in the mix. Nice. And the Bruins. And the Bruins. Who? What a run by the Bruins. Tied for the top of the Atlantic division. Unreal. Incredible. And I said last night in the group chat that Frasier Mitten who seemed to be somebody in the group chat said he was maybe a throwin in the Carlo deal. It was it was a firstrounder in Mitten. Like I don't think it was considered that way by Toronto or Boston's uh brass. But that kid man, he's he's a 200 foot player. He's big. He can move. I like him his game a lot.

And he was playing with Poshock in St. Louis. So watch out for that line. That's going to go down as a tough trade.

He had three assists past. We got Carlo for this year and he's Well, he's out right now. I think I think he's having surgery, somebody said. So, he's probably going to be out the next couple months unless Carlo comes back and has the [ __ ] second half and and playoff run of a lifetime. That That's an L. And I know that we needed a Dman and I know we needed one that was was not heavy on the books. I He's not making much money and they retain salaries. So, hey, at least we're in win now mode. But [ __ ] man. That one that one might come back to bite us.

I think the mitten kid, too, like just being traded to Boston, he's getting more of an opportunity than he ever would his first few years in Toronto. So, and he's taken advantage of it. So, credit to him. And, you know, it just goes to show you no matter what, like you just need that opportunity, right? You see, you you talked about Ryan Sheay earlier, like guys just need that opportunity to play and showcase themselves, and you got to give him credit for going out there and doing it. Now, he's playing with [ __ ] possible.

We got a we got a [ __ ] tire pump management, too, man. We were pretty hard on on Sweeney and Neely, and and even in the offseason with some of the moves, I'm like, they're going to be [ __ ] top five worst teams in the league.

What did I say last night? What did I say? They can sign and and uh trade like with the best of them. They just can't draft

draft. Yeah, their signing trades are awesome. Like that's Steve's kid. He led the AHL in scoring. He looks great. Like that's I mean that's not a super risky signing, but they found something there that works.

Geeky obviously. [ __ ] Even that year they lost to Florida. Yeah. Geeky. Even the year they lost to Florida. Like they brought in Petusi, they brought in Hall. Like they they brought in Lynholm that year from Anaheim.

And it just kind of seems with the draft they they can't do anything. But signing and trading, they're solid.

Wait, I think the most important thing they've done is is retool their prospects. I mean, that's something we've been so hard on Sweeney at. And you look, there's one team in the NHL that has four prospects or three or more prospects in the NCAA with nine or more goals. That's the Boston.

That doesn't do anything for me. Why not? Yeah. Well, just cuz you don't know if it's going to transfer.

And they were also the only team in the league with no players in the World Juniors last year. So it's like it's a proper way to evaluate. Yeah. But then they he went out in this offseason and traded for him like that. Will Zeers that kid they got as a throwin in in the Charlie Coyle trade. He's leading freshman freshman scores in in scoring this year in the NCAA.

Yeah. He's nice. He's nice. I'm just saying like scoring goals in college like it doesn't really mean much to me.

Yeah. Unless unless it's like with a resume coming in and like a background of like all right. Yeah. Like this kid scored at every level. He's a high pick. he's scoring in college like he's supposed to. But like kids with 10 goals in college right now, like a lot of those kids aren't going to play in the NHL.

I think I think something that else is super super encouraging is Dean Lo. I mean, this is a kid everyone said was a bust last year. He went to BC a year early. Talk about 67. 67. He's 67 in height. That's pretty [ __ ] sick. He's got nine goals this year. He looks awesome for

Give him a max deal. Yeah. In fairness to that kid, he was supposed to go play juniors for a year and then Will Smith left and so they had him come. So like obviously it was kind of a disaster for him last year, but he wasn't even supposed to be playing college hockey yet.

Exactly. He he does look good, dude. And he's he's a monster. He's the kid. Isn't his dad a trainer or was a trainer for Anaheim? Is that the same kid?

No, that's um that's uh Sean, what's the what's his uh Scan? He's a defenseman.

He's huge, too, right? Monster defenseman. I think he was a relatively high pick. He can move. He's big. I think the Wild picked him. Um, yeah, good guy. He was my trainer in Anaheim. He used to come up to me and be like, "Hey, man." Like after the game, big win. He's like, "You got to hit the bike for 30." I was like, "What?

30?" And he looked so sad, too. He's like, "Randy, man. He's m he's I'm sorry. I don't want to do this to you." It was all Randy just telling him what to do.

Bully Randy. Bully. Oh, I had such a great Bob Murray bashing session with someone very, very successful in the game of hockey. I I just Oh, it was so fun. That Anaheim crew, Bob Murray and Randy Carlile. What a joy to be around those guys were. Holy [ __ ]

Was it Was it recently? Oh, yeah. But we're not saying the name. We're not saying the name. Coast to Coast night.

I know. I'm [ __ ] Oh, I didn't know you knew. I didn't know you knew. I thought you couldn't remember. Um, Biz, I do want to shout out the Leafs. Great, great shut out at home Monday night against Tampa.

Hill the Beast. I told you about goalending buddy. You did tell me about the beast.

I told you about goalending. We got three guys in the pipeline. I've been saying it since last year. It's huge. Um, so unreal performance. That's a big one against Tampa. Great team right now. And uh, we're staying afloat. That's it. We're staying afloat. No more not as much drama as there was. We just need to keep winning, you know, three or four of every five games and we'll be good to go. Any news when uh Tanny's coming back? Tanv?

Uh I don't know because right now they got no no Tanv and no Carlo or Tanv. They need Tanv. Tanv's the number one guy for me on that back end.

So does Montreal suck? Does Montreal Canadian? It's follower time. It's follower time.

He got called up. Yeah. So hopefully this kid can go on a run. Well, Dobbish has had some good games. Just been inconsistent. I think Dobbish is like incredible or horrible, which is an a nightmare scenario for a goalender.

Yeah, you'd rather the guy just be decent half the time than be out of this world one night and a straightup civ the next night. So, I mean, Tampa just put a beating on them last night.

Is is Tanv still out from when he got hit and stretchered off or whatever? From his neck or whatever. Yeah.

God, I thought he was coming back. All right, my bad. need him back. He He He's the He's the key to that back end.

Oh, but that Jacob Fowler who has been he was incredible at Boston College. I think he won the USHL championship prior to that. Um has basically won wherever he's been. He has been great in the AHL for Laval and they called him up. It's kind of a situation where you could see like a young guy coming into a young team getting his chance and running with it. Like I wouldn't be shocked. I mean, Montreal's had plenty of instances before. Ken Dryden comes in as a rookie, wins the cup. Patrick W comes in as a young kid, wins the cup. I'm not saying he's going to come in and win the cup, but I could see him come in and be awesome. Carrie Price was great from the get- go.

So, Jacob Fowler, the goalie of the future for the Montreal Canadians, gets his chance. So, that's exciting.

I know they didn't like they wanted him to go all year in the Miners and just play down there. whether you know they didn't think that Dolbish and and Montbo were going to be this bad right now cuz the this this last stretch of hockey for them hasn't been great. They were good in the beginning, especially Dobish was unreal in the beginning of the year. But it's one of those things where their hands are forced right now. You got to bring them up. You got to give them a look. Worst case, he goes back down, plays more games. But from everything that I've talked to people about or read about, like he he's a gamer. He wants the net. Like I don't think he's going to be, you know, even playing at home in Montreal as a goalie is going to be intimidating, but I don't think he's one of those guys where it, you know, it hits him like he's just a [ __ ] gamer.

Yeah. Um, also, I think Montreal would probably be like the place I would choose to play my first game. Now, I don't know if his first games would be on the road or at home, but if that's your first like example or um, what is the word I'm looking for? like your first taste intro intro to the NHL. You're just like, "Holy [ __ ] this is what it's like." This is

Where was your first game with? New Jersey at Continental Arena. Oh god. Yours is overseas, right, Biz?

Yeah, I was at the Globe. My first game I was on a five on three with Mario Lemieux, Mark Reky, Sergey Gonchar, Sid, and Sydney Crosby.

Though I didn't really give a turn. I didn't really give a [ __ ] What a Did you get an apple?

I did get an apple that game. Woo! First game. Wow. I think I think I think I did.

I had three assists the next game. I know that. What the [ __ ] That's when you know you're going to be around a while.

And then Rick Jackman came up to me. He goes, "It's not this easy, kid." And it wasn't.

He wasn't wrong. You were right, sir. Uh, Biz, I had another question for you Maple Leafs related. A few years back, uh, if you remember that sociopath, uh, Trouba, he, uh, he slashed, uh, Trent Frederick in the face and got a fine.

Oh, yeah. You're talking about Bobby McMahon looked like it was very similar and he got a suspension.

It looked a little bit more accidental than that. Come on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The one that was on Borkstrand.

Yeah. So, you thought that Troubas was wasn't as bad. No, I thought that he thinks Troubas is worse.

I thought that was worse. Yeah. Yeah. And Trouba got a fine and McMahon got suspended. I'm agreeing with you.

Oh, okay. Well, that Yeah. I I didn't know if you were just trying to stir it up or what you were asking. Like I Yeah, I didn't think that he deserved to get a game suspension. It looked like it was like partly accidental. Like it didn't It didn't It looked like it was accidental.

So, one game, sure, that's a tough loss for the Leafs cuz I feel like that line's been incredible. Like their third line has been a big catalyst for the group. So, uh just the league [ __ ] the Leafs again. Nothing to see here. I mean, you do have to have control of your stick and it's it's your responsibility when it's in your hand. So, I get it like you hit somebody in the face, but yeah, it does seem a little uh hypocritical.

I just feel like if you're going to suspend somebody for a slash to the face, it's almost like a fine or a 10 gamer. like you're either doing it on purpose and it's 10 games or it's like hey Troua just slashed Frederick in the temple but I could tell it was momentum and he didn't mean to so we're going to find him but then McMahon does it and gets suspended. So Biz I'm with you and you know I'm not looking to agree with you on the day the Paige Spiranic Paul Bassinette sandbagger drops but I agree with you.

I agree the power couple can't even say her name last night. What if what if in a few pods what if in a few pod I don't even know if she's got a a husband or or fiance or boyfriend. What if in a few pods I came on I said hey boys me and Paige got a dog. It's getting serious.

Oh man. And then hey guys, this is two weeks later. Hey guys, uh Paige has the dog.

This sucks, but I get to see him every six weeks. is when you when you dropped that video recently of the uh snake you killed. That puppy you had then was so cute.

Oh, when did I drop that video? Where did that pop up? Was that I think you just showed us.

No, no, you must have saw that. Oh, they put it in the pod. G saying Oh, you guys did?

I didn't. Are they able to put that back up? Yeah, that's Packer. Do you see? That was Packer the Pit Bull. Oh, I see him all the time. Yeah. Well, that maybe not all the time. I think the last time I saw him was probably like five, six months ago.

No, five, six months ago. I just like don't talk to that ex as much anymore. But there's no animosity there.

Yeah, that that was Annie. Katie was my last one. Instead of every other weekend, it's

every weekend on a leap year. He gets to see them every every six weeks in dog years.

Yeah. That's why I don't have kids. I'd have they'd be all I'd [ __ ] see him every couple years.

Speaking of kids, the puke in my mouth, it got me. Remember I was shocker cocky too.

Monday night 805. I go, "Oh no, the rumbling coming out both ends." And wouldn't you know, I have this worldass toilet that cleans your five hole after you poop. And it's insane. It's unbelievable. And on a night when I needed my five hole cleaned more than ever,

it wasn't working. It broke. It broke my No, I was like, "This is insane." Like, how on how is this thing broken right now?

Yeah, dude. I sp I I was all night. All night straight straight comma for you saying, "I think I [ __ ] I'm immune to it. I got the high touch me." Your toilet heard it and said, "Fuck this guy." Yeah,

your booty hole heard it. Said, "Fuck this guy." And your mouth heard it and said, "Fuck this guy.

This guy's getting cocky." God, I was I was like, "This is hell." And then yesterday, I didn't move. I'm talking I got I got up like three times to like go to the bathroom, but it was all done. But I I was so wounded yesterday. I was just and and you know, I I was hearing it. I was, you know, how are you feeling this bad? It's over. When I had this, it was I was fine right after. I'm like, I'm different than you. I'm not iron gut. And then I just got the call before we started. Ryder in the middle of the class all over the desk.

Boom. The last the last Whitney to get it. And he's playing goalie. He's playing goalie this weekend at tonight's practice. So, he's he's going to be going into uh net Sunday morning. 6:20 a.m. game down the Cape. I'm like,

these 6:20 a.m. games are just kicking the nut. We we got to we got to give a couple clicks to to all the janitors out there and the school teachers that like when he yucks like who do they just call the janitor and he comes up and cleans it?

World. It's old school school. They uh they make the kid who puked actually grind through it and clean it up. It's it's teaching responsibility and what you have to do to be successful in life business.

Remember they used to just throw wood chips on it. Like you just see piles of wood chips. I'd be like, "Guys, this ain't doing it."

RA's smoking the wood chips. They're like "Sir uh sir those are for a puke." Uh,

he's got a wood chip in his background. So, uh, we are we are, uh, we are Amazon people here. We did

I gone. We did, uh, same here. We just, we we did Amazon coast to coast. We got a couple more of those this year.

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that's a big one, boys. Both a big one for both these both these teams. And I think it was Tuesday night. Um the Devils beat Ottawa at home. Brady had a couple of assists. It was was kind of surprised and the Devils pulled that one. I think they scored late in the third if I'm correct. P

Allark's leaking oil again. Allark's horrible right now. Allark's horrible. Yeah. G uh Cody Glass scored the winner with like seven minutes to go. So Ottawa loses that game. The Jets, they need Hella Buck back. I would be very worried about Allark if I'm Ottawa though. What's that contract? Seven more years,

I think. Yeah. Oh, it's got to be. Didn't he sign when he went over there, G? Yeah. So, maybe he did have a eight-year deal.

Looks like he's only signed until 2029. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. It was a four It was a four-year deal. I I fig Yeah, this is the first. So, he's got three more after this year, but I mean, they were banking on him being their guy, and it it is not it is not pretty right now. So, both teams going through goalending issues. Both teams who need a win. Um the broadcast on those games are awesome. some biz. You've mentioned how they play the warm-ups. I know it's odd to mention warm-ups, but it is cool just to see warm-ups with no audio. You're just hearing the the on ice level and seeing how guys go through their routine before games. So, I don't know what's going on.

Listen, if you if like there's some of you who like grew up playing hockey and you're just hockey enthusiasts or or some of you maybe even even other played uh but you're just like so obsessed with hockey. If you've had a long day at work, chaotic household, and you get some time alone to just like turn on the game, if you put on this Miller time beforehand where there's no commentators talking, it's just audio and video of the guys warming up and it pan it'll pan pan to like Crosby doing the his stick handling on the the the golden arches.

It'll pan to the goalender Babroski doing his fun little warm-up, right? Whoever that that game is. So, and and just hearing like uh pucks go off the post and off the glass and that, you know, the stick handling sound, I just found it was very therapeutic. And actually before we started the broadcast, I had my earpieces in and I was just watching. And I would say that that's the most calm I ever went into a broadcast cuz it was like it was like I was I was in a trance. I was in a hockey trance. So, if you want a little bit of uh uh breathing therapy before games, go check out Miller time before puck drop.

Don't look at me like that, Yans. You think I'm cra It's like Hawky's version of the um the neverending uh fireplace over the holidays. That's something

Exactly. Yes. What example. Second best example of the day. I love throwing it on. Right. It's a great

nuts roasting on an open fire. Jack Frost nipping at your nose. You know the next line?

Nope. Oh, if you did, dude, I was going to be so impressed. Your [ __ ] next line. Nobody knows the next line of that one.

We never talked about uh the this new hockey show that's out. This uh what is it? Heated rivalry.

Oh yeah, that's making waves. So, how about this one? So, I haven't seen it. So, we're at Coast to Coast and I get uh like tagged in a tweet and someone's like, "I wonder if Biz is watching this heated rivalry and I thought that they were like making light of the fact that like Toronto and Carolina is like not typically a heated rivalry, but there was like a few moments in the game where like okay, like whatever." So, at that point, I was going through my silent strike that I I was doing this on the coast to coast broadcast where I did my hood up and I only had one eye out watching the game and I refused to talk for the last seven minutes until the Leafs won the game.

So, I saw that and since I wasn't talking and I wasn't really involved in the coast to coast broadcast for those seven minutes, I I is it there? It is. If you're watching the YouTube channel, you could see it. So, you do you guys think Biz is watching Heated Rivalry? And I read it quick. So, I thought they were like this heated rivalry. So, I replied with a picture of just my one eye, which kind of looks like I'm looking through a butthole given the fact that I tied up my sweater and and and and it's just peeking out. So, all of a sudden, all these like anime accounts and and obviously people who might be might be gay started going crazy at the fact that this heated rivalry show has absolutely taken off.

And and Avery warned us, the hockey smut novels are are like like top of the list right now. People are going crazy for these. And this kind of falls under that category where I guess every 10 minutes these guys are just teeing off on each other's [ __ ]

Show. It's a show. It's a show. And it's apparently pretty graphic. So it's Let's G, why don't you come on and talk about this whatever you know. Avery was doing a breakdown on his Twitter and he's all over it. or it's taking over right now. I feel like everywhere you go, people are talking about this and yeah, Sean Avery's breakdown with the pointer. It was like two and a half minutes.

Oh, yeah. He gets into everything. He's breaking it down with the pointer. It's unbelievable.

And I guess it's pretty graphic and and there's something going on every 10 minutes where the premise is is these two rivals who are playing against each other. Like at one point they're even doing a press conference talking about this battle they're about to go into and they're playing footsies underneath the table at the press conference.

Like you and Paige in the in the in the cart. Exactly. Exactly. You know who has seen every seen it?

R seen every surprised R's seen a TV show. Uh I just didn't know he would be this quick to the gun on this one. So I I guess we could bring him in after we send it to Santino. So, I I'll hand it over to you, Whit, but I want to talk to RA about heated rivalry and guys teen off on each other's buttholes.

Yeah, let's let's Yeah, exactly. Um, Andrew Santino is an alltime comedian, very successful. Uh, we got to know him at the Internet Invitational. We were supposed to do a sandbagger with him. We're going to do that, but it got rained out in LA, so we sat down with him. A hilarious 90 minutes. I promise you guys, if you like laughing, you'll enjoy this. Uh, an unreal guy, and we appreciate him coming on. So without further ado, Andrew Santino, just take a minute here, guys, and talk about Body Armor. This episode is presented to you by Body Armor. Flash IV. Flash IV delivers faster, longerlasting hydration with over 2,000 mg of electrolytes and no artificial dyes or sweeteners like those other drinks. None of the crap, none of the stuff that shouldn't go into your body, right? It's just 2,000 milligs of electrolytes. So whether you're training, traveling, or just feeling the heat, work hard. Hydrate hard with Body

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John, Andrew Santino, what's going on, buddy? We were supposed to golf. He's like, I'm not spending that much time with that [ __ ] in a cart.

No, I wanted to golf, but you guys chose to come to LA the only time it rains the whole year. And it rained for 4 days straight. And we were talking, we were texting about it, and I said, "Might be the day. Might be good, might be bad." But it was car path only. We wouldn't had a good day.

No, we don't need that. No, I'm not doing that. You need to be and you you would had to play with Biz. You need more time in the cart with

No, no. Biz and I would have to up today, buddy. Cart path only though. That would have been a 9h hour round. Would have hated my

at least. No. Yeah. No, I would have still loved you, but I'd have been drinking a lot more than I usually would have. I'd have been smashing them back, dude. The walk from the cart to the I just played in Phoenix and they had to do that, too, cuz they just like overseated and reopened.

Yeah. And they were like carts only. And at some point, I was like, should have walked.

You walk way more when you do cart. I was like, we should have just walked with the they had the caddy carry the bag. Catty's just walking. He's walking way less steps. We got to go back and forth and back and forth. And it's desert golf. So if you hit it out of bounds at all or like even off in into the [ __ ]

you're walking twice as far. Go back, get a club, come back. I was like "No bring three clubs. None of them are the right club."

Hate that, dude. Walk back. Also, the one caddy he didn't even have a gun. He's going off his brain. He's like, "Did he have the slope on?"

Yeah, he had the slope on. He goes, "This has got to be 184." I was like, "Got to be or is what is it?" He goes, "I I know this course, man." And I was like, "All right, fine." Um, last night was the first time I've seen you live and you mentioned that you you were in Arizona and that you found the people very dumb. You went to ASU.

I went to ASU. I know my own kind, dude. Harvard or the West. It's I mean, whenever somebody goes, "Why did you go to ASU?" It's like, "Dude, I couldn't get into any other school."

You know, did you guys do when you were in high school, did you do ACTs or SATs?

Never went SAT. You never went to high school. I barely graduated. Yeah. Same. But I did ACTs. Okay. Okay. Okay. If you didn't do ACT, the numbers. Okay.

What's it out of 36? What' you get? 24. Oh, that's real bad. I'm an idiot. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You, Dude, you should get You should be sniffing 30 for sure if you have any brain cells.

So, you weren't getting it anywhere else. Dude, I was doing drugs and alcohol in high school. I I wanted to do sports, uh, hook up with chicks and party. And I thought high school is going to figure itself out. And then by the time I got to the end, everybody's like, "I'm committed to Iowa. I'm going to U of I. I'm going to" And I was like, "I'm going nowhere, dude. I got nothing. I got nothing. And my but my dad's best friend's son who him and I became friends cuz we'd go to college football together. He was like, "My cousin goes to Arizona State. You got You should come and visit with me." And I go, "I don't." Well, I was like, "I don't even know I'll get into there, dude." We went out to ASU together, took mushrooms, uh went to a house party, sat on what would be my future dorm, which is kind of surreal. We sat on the porch out there and, you know, smoking a cigarette and I was like, "We should go to school here,

dude." And he was like, "We really should." And we did. We literally did. It was like stoner mentality manifested truth. We went for a year and then he was a bright kid. He was like Ashley Smart. And between freshman, sophomore summer, he knocked a girl up and never came back. And I never saw the kid ever again.

No. Don't even know what he's doing now either. No. No idea. He's teaching at ASU.

Yeah. He probably Yeah. No. He got a girl from home pregnant. He went back home and knocked up a girl. So he stayed at home with his mom and dad.

Oh. So the idiot lasted. Kids at home, listen up. If you're an idiot, it might work out. I think

um out of state tuition there is insane, isn't it? How did you When I was in school, out of state wasn't that expensive. It was one of the cheapest out of state schools in the country. You can look that up in 2000. What? I went there in in 2002. It was the It's one of the cheapest out ofate schools cuz they wanted out of state kids. It was a lot of instate kids. Now it's Dude, it's there's a You go to ASU now, it's a billion. It's way too big. It's

You're never getting out of student debt. No. No. Uh-uh. No. Who cares? You don't have to pay it off. Thanks, Obama.

Thanks a lot. Did you start doing comedy then? When did you know like I got to try standup?

Yeah. College I really like loved it. I tried to sneak my way into I even said that the club I played I played the Tempe improv and I've never played it which is crazy cuz when I would go back I would do other clubs and then I started doing theaters so I never got a chance to go. But in college I used to see a chick that was working there and she would give me tickets. So, I used to go watch standup, but I was too scared. I was 20 years old. I was like, I'm not going these, you know what I mean?

Were you writing stuff though? Like Yeah. Yeah, I was. But I wasn't going to I don't know what I was going to do with it.

Yeah. But I was just putting it down. I was putting down ideas or or I'd write like a sketch or something. And I was I didn't have the balls to go because back then Arizona had one club.

Maybe there was one more way up north, but now there's like six. The world is different. But so I was like, I'll just start when I get to LA. And on the 4th of July, I I got in a U-Haul, moved to Long Beach, and slept on a guy's lazy boy for a couple of months until I got enough money to get I got a job and then I got a roommate and then I moved up to LA.

So, what was your job while you were trying to be a comedian? You had to get a real job.

I had so many gigs. Like real [ __ ] jobs, I bet. Not I was hooking up with this girl who was a physical therapist. Um Oh, dude, this is so mean, too. My she had she had like she had like really like she was beautiful but she had like thinning hair and all my buddies behind my back called her hairpiece and uh dude it was they were like hairpiece headpiece and I was like are you saying herpes dude she doesn't have herpes and they're like no hairpiece hairpiece headpiece cuz she was middle eastern dude they they were lighting me up but but thanks to hairpiece I got myself a job at the PT office so she I got to work at a physical therapy office as like a a gopher. It was like, "Clean [ __ ] up. Put the put the mats away.

Get us a roller. Check people in." Yeah. But also the dude that ran the place loved me. So he was like, "Hey man, I'll you know I'll give you some extra hours cuz I needed the cash." And he was like, "I can't you you can't work with any of the doctors." He's like, "That's illegal." But he's like, "But you can just stay by me and I'll give you extra money if you like do more for me." So he that that dude helped me out. That was my first gig.

Were you like the life of the party and would you try would you try that material?

I was cracking jokes the whole time. Yeah. Like there was an old lady, you know, like and if they were like, "Hey, can you get her on this roller and I'd help her get on the thing and I'd be like, you know, if you fart when I put you on this, it's not a big deal. Most people fart on these things." So I'd give them comedy and relief, you know, and they when they would fart, you know, I'd be like, "This lady just farted on call out.

Get on the PA." Yeah. This woman just farted on table 9. No, but it it just it was like a way for me to just start that drumming up. Every gig I had was me trying out just being I've always been a a jag off like my whole life. So then I served, you know, I did I I did I did bartending and serving and all that nonsense. And then when I moved to LA, uh uh a dude got me a job. My first job was working at a studio as like a a PA, a production assistant, just running Gopher again. And then after that, a guy was like uh a dude I knew in a band was like, "Hey, there's a music this this music touring company. They need someone to just push paper." And I I needed a day job because at night you want to do standup. So I would work, you know, till 4:30 and then go to the club and go to the open mics and I'd go across the street to the comedy store, do the mics and then go to the east side and do little, you know,

whatever putts around shows and then drink all night and then do it all over again every day for for years and years.

That comedy store like we watched you last night. It was awesome. It was David Spade, yourself. Uh who was it? Nick Croll. I recognize that name.

David Spade, Croll, Eliza. There's two rooms. I I've actually never been to the one we went to last night. I would always go to more than two. There's three. Well, that one's called the main room. That's the biggest. That's like 450. There's the original room, the O, the one that you guys went to on accident.

Oh, man. I walked in and this poor kid, he was just, you know, I fell for him. He was struggling and he you could tell he knew he was struggling. And I was like, Santino still has to do like this stuff. And then Keith's like, "Dude, I don't think we're in the right room." We went in and boom, it was you, you

that's the open mic room that that's where the young guys were. You were in that room.

Yeah, brother. Everybody goes to those room. No, you don't know. Get paid. Usually you're losing money doing those. Usually you got to pay for parking or you know, you're paying for gas, parking, and whatever. And you know, so you're not making a dime on that. You're losing money most nights trying to get up and all you want to do is do the your best three minutes. It's 3 minutes, which I couldn't I can't do three minutes now if you I I don't know. I mean, we do an hour. So like 3 minutes is like I'm not even I said hello.

Last night you were 20 minutes and you could that to you that's nothing. No, that's a cakewalk. That's that's the way we do it is like when when you start to build an hour of material, you do, you know, you I like to do it in like either four 15-minute chunks or or three 20-minute chunks. So, when we do the store in my mind, I do I'll do my my m my middle or my or my beginning chunk of the hour to work it out. And then sometimes I'll move bits around to see which works where better. You know,

being in the the O as you call it, like the original JV, right? Like well see and that's only because it was Monday

on the on regular like on a on like you know Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and the weekends.

We do headliners do go in there. It's just like the showcase room kind of you're working out material and then when you get into the main room you know sometimes we do both but you go into the main room that's more of like a show. You got to you got to you got to play a show. I mean

not everybody does but I think you should. You know, the woman that ran the club, Paulie Shore's mom, Mity Shore, that was her thing. She was like, "Test out your [ __ ] in here and get your ass in there and kill." You know,

she was like a mafia boss almost, right? She didn't [ __ ] around. If you didn't crush, dude, she you she you were you get you'd get relegated.

Wow. Next day. Also, if you had a bad set and if you weren't a good guy, like if you kind of had an attitude or you were just not, you know, she was quick to be like, "No sets next week." She wouldn't You would put in for spots. you know, we put in for spots before the week and then you get they'll text you, hey, you're on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday or whatever. And if you weren't killing and you weren't doing good, you'd get no spots the next week. Sometimes you wouldn't get spots. Some I saw guys, they wouldn't get spots for a month cuz they weren't bringing it.

Oh, and it was a dude. But it's, you know, hey, if you're not doing well on the ice, you're going to hear about it.

You know what I mean? It's like that's the same world. And I think that's appropriate. like you know there if you're trying to become a professional and you're not playing to to your ability, you got to go practice then. Then go get your ass out, go work out material, go right, and then you can earn it back, which I think was a it's a noble it's a noble way to see who's going to really make it or who's going to really like have the balls to stick around and put in the work instead of just you know doing my best. It's like your best is [ __ ] But when you say that's what putting in the work that's hard because like you know hockey you can work on different things. Comedy if you're not doing well you got to question like am I funny enough right like how do you improve like you obviously got better.

Yeah you well honestly if the there's no secret it's writing a lot and working it out. So you have to write a lot and go try it somewhere and write and try. I'm at a place in my career, I'm lucky. Like, I built a big audience. Like, I It's different now. But when I was young, you just had to do the work and have the balls to to put it out there and actually believe in it and sell it. You're a salesman, dude. You're a joke salesman. If you can't sell the joke, why would they buy it? Why are they If you don't believe in it, why would they laugh?

So, you've got to sell them. Like, you've got to give it to them. And I know like at my level or at when you start to get an audience,

every dickhead's like, "I could do that. They look so comfortable. It's like, well, that's my, you know, that's like,

you should have seen the beginning, right? Exactly. Yeah. You should have seen what it first looked like. You know,

a lot of scar tissue. I was going to ask you about the dynamic behind the scenes there. So, like for instance, last night, is there about 50 people back there like comedians between both rooms?

No, because when we when we're done, we usually go home. Like with you guys, like the moment I was out, I was like, I'm out. Let's go. You know, when you're young, you stick around. But when you get older, a lot of guys married, you have families, you got other [ __ ] to do. You reach an age where you just get in, you get out. I I'm there 10 minutes before my spot and I'm there 5 minutes after it's over. I say hi and bye to the staff and I'm back in the whip and I'm either at the house or I'm having dinner or out doing something else. But like at any given time in the green room if it's a big busy show and there's people there you want to kick it with. Like if there's a guy that I haven't seen in a long time, yeah, there's like 15 people back there kind of chumming around talking [ __ ] and then depends on the night. But then a lot of nights now, especially as we get older, people like I got to get home, dude. My kid, you

know what I mean? I got my kids and my I got to bring my kid to school in the morning. So, it's not like it used to be. Well, when you're young, dude, those are the days I tell every young comic, I'm like, "Sak it up, man." Cuz when you're young, you all hang out. They go out, they all go out afterwards. They go get They go get drinks. They go get food. They have no responsibility. They're not married. They got no kids. You know, they don't they don't have anything. So, it's like,

so the next night you're free. Yeah. You're free. And, you know, then you get older and it's it's a little different, you know, but but backstage

it can be a great hang. There's nights where it's like me, Croll, and Spade were busting each other's balls and that's the most fun. Like that's my favorite [ __ ] is when we're sitting back there. They do that at the comedy seller in New York a lot.

There's a table upstairs. Everybody sits around and just I mean just shits on each other. They can't wait to find something to [ __ ] on. Like the moment you walk up you're like what's up? And everybody's like would you get a haircut? And right away you're like yeah I got a and it's then it's going to open up it opens up of just a vault of some other [ __ ]

They can't wait to shoot at you. It dude they've all got guns. They're sitting there with guns. It is like the mafia. It's insane. If you like leaving ASU going to LA, do you have that vision? Cuz some guys go to New York too, right? To try to make it or if you come to LA, are you more focused on I want to get into movies, TV as well?

No, I did truthfully like I Okay, I'm from Chicago, but I didn't want to go home cuz I didn't want it to be easy cuz I knew I would have what lived at my mom's house

and then, you know, been getting high with the same old kids that I got high with in high school. I probably would have been lazier. So, I said, I'm I'm not going to come home. I'm either going to do like LA or New York. and I visited LA and I was like, "Dude,

yeah, I got to do this." I mean, it was I grew up in [ __ ] weather my whole life. So, I was like, I want to kind of live in nice weather. So, when I left Arizona, I was like, I want sunshine, man. And out here, yeah, it was a wealth of opportunity of like TV was booming back then. So, it was like if you're funny enough, you can get on, you know, you do you do a Conan or you do Leno and you can get an audition to be on a a TV sitcom or something. I mean, that's not what it's like today for those guys, but that's that was the hope, you know what I mean? I was like, "Oh, I want to get on TV, get a credit, and then start touring, then hopefully get on Comedy Central." I mean, that was our

There was no Netflix. There was no specials. I know. Comedy Central was our northstar. If you could get on Comedy Central,

that was the move. You wanted to get Just for Laughs, which is a festival, and then you want to get a, you know, a 30 minute, you know, or half. Well, they used to do things like uh Lounge Lizards, these 15-minute spots, or they did another one called like um a night with or something, but that's what you wanted. Like I got my first half hour on Comedy Central. I filmed it in Boston. I filmed my first I did it at the um El Royale, which is across the street from the Wilbur right behind Royale Theater. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's like behind the W right on that same block. But we all filmed our half hours there and that was like my first that was my first like big TV standup thing, you know? And then you think dude

I got this. It's home free, but you're back at the Courtyard Marriott jerking off in the hand. Yeah.

It's the same old story. Now, nowadays these kids, like for you going on Leno or those shows nowadays, these kids just want to get on your podcast or Joe's or Theo's, right? Like

Well, yeah, because those shows are gone. I mean, you know, like for me it was Conan or Letterman. Yeah. I didn't really care about Leno's show. Not no disrespect to him, but like I always loved Letterman the most. So, I wanted to get on Letterman or I wanted to do Conan because Conan was here. So, I got Conan. I did that. And I never did Letterman because by the time I was like submitting for Letterman, it was kind of the end of that reign. And so that that that thing I wish I did. That was one thing I wish I, you know, had a feather in my cap for that. But yeah, nowadays kids want to come on Bad Friends or they want to come on they want to do Rogan or Theo or Sigura and and Berts thing that gives you more resonance in the comedy world but also do late night spots guys still do them. I just it's just not

they're different now. It's not all the viewership down. Yeah. You put your special you most guys now put their special up on YouTube. You know like Gillis like Gilly's one of my good friends and Gillis put a special up there and these guys could look it up. It's got to have 45 million views or something like that. something insane. And you know, if at the time he did that somewhere else, that wouldn't have gotten as many eyeballs. But YouTube catapulted,

you know, his career and his talent. I mean, he's a raw he's a raw talent. He's amazing. But like YouTube helped it to spread it on the internet without TV. 49 million. There you go. I was

49. That's his That was his first one. That or that I don't know if that was his very first special, but that was his first that popped.

That's what really popped. I mean 49 million [ __ ] That's insane. I mean It's unheard of.

Do you have one thing you look back on like that that popped? You're like, "Dude, this is kind of

I mean, I had a lot of things I thought I did. My first gig was my first gig was Punked on MTV

years and years ago, man. Yeah, I did Punked. And that was that I thought in my mind I was like, "Brother, we're going to we're coasting, dude." And then again, back in that courtyard Marriott jerking off in a hand towel. It's the same it I thought that was kind of my break. And then I got a sitcom and I did a bunch of different stuff. But like the thing truly that like really splashed my career, you know, five and a half years ago was doing Bad Friends with Bob. I mean, it was all going great. Like life was good.

I was touring. I was making money. I was popping on TV shows. I'd get on, you know, I got on Curb. The first thing I did, I did The Office and then I did Dave. Like what is we did that like six years ago we started, you know, Yeah. I

That was big for me, you know. But like bad friends changed my life forever. I mean,

and did you know kind of right away like we got something here? Yeah. It sounds stupid to say yes, but yeah, dude. I did. Like when we sat down and we did our the very first episode he came on my podcast on Whiskey Ginger and we couldn't release it. And we've talked about it a lot. People like release it. I was like, brother,

it's just so raw. It's Well, we got into like a you know, we were like who could say the most foul [ __ ]

It was insane. We've talked about it. Let the Wuang unreleased. You could release it now, though.

The guy I don't know, brother. It's probably not a good idea to release it now. We might. So, you know what I said? I go, when my career is like done done, and we both said this and we don't give a [ __ ] we'll um we'll we'll somehow auction it or sell it and put all the money to charity. So, then it's like, "Are you mad at me? We donated every dime to that." And they're like, "It's the most offensive, crass, disgusting." And I'm like, "Yeah, but it goes to the kids." You know what I mean? Like Children's Hospital got the money for the kids, dude. racism for the kids.

Were you uh were you like not as receptive to the podcast world because maybe you're a little foreign to it and you're like what's what's all this or like were you like

Rogan Rogan was our Rogan truly started the wave of comics doing it and he always pushed like when I was young I used to open for Joe and when he first took me out man and I was so gen like genuinely so appreciative of like him taking me on. We played a bunch of theaters and treated me great and was always like, "Dude, you got to start pods." Cuz he had been doing pods forever. And

he knew, oh, he bro, he was way ahead of his time. And he was like, "You got to do it, man. You really got to do it." And I was like, "I don't want to, man. I don't have the equipment. I don't know if I have the money to start it. I don't have the the I don't have anything." And he kept pushing me and being like, "I don't give a [ __ ] dude. Just scrge it together. Do it from your house. Do it from your garage. Like, just do it any store. Do it, you So, I started it I started my my Whiskey Ginger like I think it's got to be like seven or eight years ago now. And I did it in um an animation studio in an office. I knew a guy that worked there and after hours he let me use the code to go record in there cuz they had like soundproof rooms and I'd go record in there. I'd have to sometimes I have to fight with the janitor would be coming in the little the little lady be she's like you I have to clean up. I have to clean.

And I'm like can we recording and you come back? She's like, "No, I will come." No, I have to clean. So, some of the recordings like in the middle. Yeah. But that was the beginning, dude. That was your guess. Yeah, that was my guess was the vacuum.

Were you just like, were you saying jokes or you just like talking about anything?

We just I knew I wanted to do a comedy podcast like about the whole impetus of my show of Whiskey Ginger was and still is. I mean, but just a lot of people are sober now was we would have a cocktail whiskey. We'd have we'd have a drink and we'd talk about the very first time you got wasted, you know, like the very first time. And what was that like when you were a kid? Like what was the first time that you you know because I started the show telling a story like the first time I got wasted with my buddy Matt. I'll never for and we stole, you know, a bottle from his old man and got [ __ ] hammered, threw up everywhere. And it I was like, everyone has these stories the first chunks of times that they got hammered and how they stole it from an uncle at a holiday party, blacked out, threw up, you know, and so it was that and then it curved into like,

you know, tell the first story of the time you you know, you you got wasted and then what's your life like now in comedy? So I was interviewing comedians and you know and then it's then it grew. Then it got you know actors and athletes and blah blah blah blah blah and whatever whatever but I knew I always liked it but I didn't know I didn't know it was going to be a part of my career.

Yeah. The biggest part really. Yeah. I just wanted to do it. But now it's the thing it's the way we talk to the people you know because I'm not I don't like the in I'm not good on Instagram and all that [ __ ] I'm not really good at it. So now I'm like well this is it. If I'm talking to them every day, if I can crack a couple of jokes or try out [ __ ] on the show, that's what we do.

And what you told us last night about what you've added to your live shows, that's unreal.

Like we do an interactive thing. When we do Bad Live, and we probably won't do Bad Friends Live again for a while, but um cuz we have to plan a new tour. But we do this thing where when you sit down, we run a video. Well, we run some of our greatest clips, you know, and we run a video and in between the video. Um, there's a big QR code and you can scan it with your phone and it brings you to a site and it prompts you with like, "Hey, do you have a secret hidden talent?" Uh, um, you know, like you you're think you you think you know the episodes better than someone else. We have a trivia and they can win prizes and all this [ __ ] I told you guys last night the hidden talent was in almost every city a girl would be like, "I can queef on command." And we'd be like, "We got to see it. We got to see it." Right in my face.

And the girl from Denver. Test their business. You come on the tour with us, dude.

Love it. Queef on biz. Quee on the biz. What's the biz? I I want I I I prefer the squirters.

Oh, you do? Squirt on command, dude. We can prompt them with that, too. Who can squirt on biz?

Let's Let's up our game. We'll get you in a little kitty pool just to keep it cleaner for the staff.

But the the girl who queefed the funniest, man, was in in Denver. I don't remember that girl's name, but man, she was unbelievable. She she wasn't shy at all. She grabbed the mic right away. She got down in the position. She gets in to to suck it in and Bobby got on the keys and they played like rhythm and she could like like to the boxing.

Oh, she was beatboxing out. Yeah, she was beat boxing. Yeah, she was beat boxing. It was wild, dude. But so we got our fans the the reason is because our fans, the way we grew that show was we tried to make it fan interactive and like, you know, not like in the comment section, but more like how do we like call the fans? How do we have bits for the fans? And when we did the live, um, I was like, we got to let them be on stage with us and have a little bit of fun if they had something fun to offer. You know, we didn't let everybody up, but we had the producers would go through pre-show and they'd be like, "All right, we have this, this, this, this, and this, and who do you want?" And we'd figure out, dude, sometimes we had

we had guys at the end of the show, we sing an improv song together because Bobb's really good on the piano. Like, phenomenal. He's Asian. He's Asian. Yeah. You know, they don't have a choice.

They made him play when he one of the most self-deprecating, intelligent people in the in the world.

Intelligent. No, but self-deprecating. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's got he's an idiot soant. That's what he is. He's a brilliant [ __ ] He's He is He's a um he's an enigma. He's I mean, he's my best friend, and I think he's a genius. He's a comedic genius, but he's got all these hidden talents. People he wrestled in high school. You His brother was like a state championship wrestler or something. Yeah. It was crazy. And he he played piano. And I thought, what if we do the live element because we used to do it on the show and he would just improv a song and we would sing. And one time we were in uh Massie Hall, Toronto, and we called up this kid who could play who who was a who was a musician. And dude, he blew the room away. I mean, it was like I couldn't believe it. I was like, we're telling fart jokes. This guy can really sing, you know, and we put him on the spot, but we'd have fans interact with us and do these moments

that are like, you know, forever embedded. And luckily, we documented all of it. So, we put together a documentary and I don't know what we're going to do with it. Like, we don't know yet. We just wanted to capture all of it. So, we've got it and maybe we'll throw it up on Netflix at some point or something. I don't know.

Keep it like you're Can you explain uh retell what Bobby's days are like? Remember?

There's no way he's awake. I think I dude I think I asked you does he watch like football? You you were like

football? Yeah, soccer. He the only sport he likes is soccer. Uh but he uh he he sleeps till about 2:30 or 3:00 p.m. He's 54 years old.

Oh my god. He plays video games because because he plays video games from 10:00 p.m. till, you know, 3:00 4 in the morning. So then he sleeps till 3:00 or 4:00 p.m. He'll waggle his way to the podcast and then complain, "I haven't eaten all day. It's 6:30, dude." And you haven't eaten all day. Plays plays video games all night, does the pod, and then he goes to the store and he does it all over again. Now he's single, so he's going on dates and [ __ ] Now he's got to be he's got to be a gentleman and take girls out, but he takes his girls to the same four spots. That's the funniest part. He takes them all the same four restaurants. He likes Major Domo downtown. He likes that. David Chang's joint. He likes to go to he loves he loves Korea Town because all the Korean barbecue. He loves those because he, you know, he he likes the atmosphere of that. So, he goes to like Chosen Goi.

He's there. I'm naming all the spots. You go there, you're going to see him on.

How attractive are the girls that he's bringing? He'll probably rock it. Phenomenal. Yeah. I don't think he's I don't think I've seen him I don't think I've seen him with anything less than like an 8.5. I don't think he's even even I don't think he ducks below that. Like I just want to see that conversation or hear that conversation like what the hell are they doing?

He shows me all the girls and he shows me what he I sometimes on the show I'll read his DMs, you know, and it's just it's zero effort. I mean it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.

They'll be they'll have some great banter and then he'll go we be competing. Yeah. Yeah.

Busy League. Busy. They'll have great banter and then he'll go sounds good. And then she'll say like a whole thing and he'll go okay. That's all it is.

I mean good for him. The kids got the kids got the game is no game, right? The game is do you want to hang out? And if they're like, well, I'd like to get you to know about then he doesn't respond.

They go in and he's gone and then they're back a few weeks later. Yeah, they pop. They always do. They they always come back. Dude,

I was going to ask you about uh maybe like a a situation where you where you bombed or it was like just your your

Oh, dude. We bombed so much when we're young. I mean, I'll give you a funny story about when I bought me and uh uh me, Gary Veer, shout out Gary Veer, one of the funniest comics, New York guy. Me, Gary Veer, and a couple other guys were going to Vegas. We got a job um to do a corporate gig. Now, corporate gigs, dude, most they suck. They suck because it's a bunch of suits.

Free money though. Yeah, it's a ton of money. So, you have to do them. So, you're already in your mind, you're like, "This is going to suck shit." But whatever. It was a trip to Vegas and I was with Veer and I was like, "Dude, we're this is going to be great. We're going to get stakes, get hammered, go play cards. So, I go out there and it was for Jim Beam and I'm thinking this is right up my alley, dude. A bunch of like old southern boys, whiskey drinking southern boys. I was like, I'm going to kill

I was playing that first podcast with Bobby Lee. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they'll love all that. I like when you say those bad words, man. You can say that around me, dude. I don't care. So, we go out to Vegas and we're backstage and Joel Male was hosting the whole weekend. You know, you know Joel Joel's Joel's like uh he's real professional. He's TV host guy. He did the soup for years and funny guy, very funny comic. And Joel comes backstage and he's like, "Uh, what's up, boys?" I was like, "What's going on? What's wrong with you?" He's like, "I've been here for two days hosting this."

He's, there was like a weekend of partying for them. And I go, "Man, you look like shit." He's like, "Oh, yeah. I can't wait to see you eat it out there." I was like, "I'm going to kill, dude. You're out of your mind." And then he goes "Okay." He comes back. He comes back. He goes back on stage. And then I look out and I'm like, "What the [ __ ] is going on?"

No life out there, bro. Jim Beam got acquired by Santori Whiskey. Japanese whiskey. It was 180 Japanese businessmen.

Oh, no English. No. Sitting in circular tables eating steaks. Their back half of the guys back to us. Yeah. It was my Bobby Lee nightmare. Yeah.

Wasn't awake. They got their backs to us and I was like, "Holy shit." And I went out and tanked.

I bombed in a way that I couldn't believe. Like 12 minutes felt like seven days and I could dude I was eating it, eating it, eating it. And I'm not gonna be able to say it and you'll know why, but I bombed. Ver did better than me because you saw he

is just so they're not understanding. They're not laughing. Are you They don't relate.

Are you kind of now trying to amuse yourself cuz you just know you're not going to get it?

Oh, yeah. I'm just telling I'm making myself laugh. Not a one of them is laughing.

And then Alonzo Bowden, who's a phenomenal comic. You know, Alonzo is like got to be 66 65 big tall black dude. Hu I mean big dude like big powerful presence. Hysterical. And Alonzo's there and at the corporate a lot of times they're like, "Don't cuss. No dirty [ __ ] Don't cuss." Like, "Keep it as clean as you can. You can say a few words, but they're like, "Don't, you know, don't get dirty." I'm not dirty anyway, but like, you know, I was like, "All right, we'll get keep it tighter so your mind is thinking about it." Alonzo was like, "Fuck this." Cuz he saw how bad everybody was doing. So, he gets out there to a room full of Japanese guys and goes, "Y'all ever seen an N-word this big before?" And they lost it. I was like, "That's all I need to do was say the N word and then I would have killed."

He crude he crushed. He crushed cuz he was like, "No, I'm going to I'm going to say whatever I want." You know what I mean? Like swing. And that's the code. That's kind of the secret code to young comics. It's like you never change your act. Do what you always do. Don't get in your head. If they if they if they like it, they like it. There's almost nothing you can do in those situations.

If I was bombing, I feel like I would just hate the people that are out in that so much.

Oh, yeah. You do. I want to kill everyone. You think about gasoline in a match in the middle of it have start [ __ ] on them. Like

you do pick on them a little bit, but then if they're not liking your act and then you're picking on them, oh brother, that gets cold fast. I mean, the biggest mistake young comics make is a, you know, it's usually a drunk girl. All right, I'm not being a pig, but it's almost always a drunk girl. A drunk dude, you can shut up pretty fast.

But a drunk girl, for some reason, man, that's like their superpower to be like,

and now you got to understand that. And then you start [ __ ] on her and you make her look dumb and then everyone feels bad.

So then it gets lower cuz then when you when you just when you light her up then she's like hurt cuz a guy you light up and everybody's like yeah [ __ ] that dumb ass. You light up a girl everyone's like that's mean. It's like she was talking the whole show but then the mood goes out. So now at this stage in my life dude ignore. I don't I don't I may chat with someone for fun but I'm never going to I don't shoot at anybody.

That's not my [ __ ] dude. You saw I go up there, I tell my [ __ ] I move on. I may say something to someone for fun, but it's more they're in it with me versus like, look at that stupid [ __ ] hat.

So, they're enjoying it and you're just bringing them in a little. I'm not into picking on these guys, dude. They these guys these people, they paid real money. They got a sitter. You know what I mean? I don't need to also make fun of how fat that guy is. You He knows he's fat. You know, he got he left the house that way. So, like make him laugh and then send him home instead of like, you know, I don't like that. The thought for me was always like, is the drive home gonna be uncomfortable? Is he going to be in the car being like, well, that guy was a [ __ ] dick. And you know what I mean? Like, and check was laughing as you ripping.

She was losing it. Yeah. I like that guy. He's plotting to kill me. Yeah. No, I'm not interested. I don't I don't It's just not my style. But some guys are, you know, we talked last night about Aries Spears. Aries, dude, he loves that stuff. Like Aries was the guy he had the girl with Down syndrome in the crowd. The clip is bananas. says, "If you see it."

Oh, the one he just dropped you were saying. Yeah. There's a girl with Down syndrome in the crowd and he's like, "I I never had one of you at my show." He's like, "You come [ __ ] a black guy, I'll reboot your system." He's like,

"Oh, wow. Okay. Banana." But the girl loved it. She loved it. But he But he does that. That's Aries is good at that. He likes kind of talking [ __ ] But it's all from love. He's not hate. But like I can't that's not that's not my style.

He's the one who does all the impersonations. He's phenomenal. He's a great soprano. Tony Soprano.

Dude, he can do He can do anybody. He can do I that guy is he is him Jay Pharaoh there's a couple of guys that can do anybody. I mean

is there a clip where he does like four rappers back to back to back where Snoop Jay-Z

Jay-Z there's Yeah. Tupac maybe. I don't know. Four good ones. No, he's got but he he's super talent. I never got into that impression thing I couldn't do.

You mentioned uh you were into sports big time growing up. Were you a big hockey guy? I always loved hockey, but I never f I never followed it to the to the degree that I would say like I knew what I was talking about, but I always loved to go. Like if we ever got to go, I'd love to go and I love to watch it. I just wasn't like deep embedded in it like I was for basketball and baseball for me were everything. I We grew up My dad's a diehard Cubs fan. We grew up dieh hard baseball.

Have you done first pitch there? I did. This last year I did uh first pitch and I sang the stretch, which to me when the Cubs emailed me and were like, "Hey, we want you to sing the stretch." first pitch insurance agents get to do that. That's not even But seeing the stretch

that was to me that's like as a Chicago kid it was like holy holy [ __ ] Didn't your dad say like oh you finally made it.

You finally [ __ ] made it. Yeah. Literally the email I could show you the email return says you finally [ __ ] made it. I was like well dude I mean I've done television and film and the career is good. He's like that's all [ __ ]

Singing the stretches legit. Your your dad sounds like based on what you're saying last night at your show and to us at dinner like probably like how you're so funny, right? I mean, the guy sounds like a complete of material,

right? Like, there's no way that you've come out the way you have without some It's most of me making fun of him cuz he's dude, he called me this this guy calls me this morning. He called me at like 9:00 in the morning and he he's like, "We just got back, you know, we got all of our tests done cuz they're old now. They're they live at the doctor's office." And he's like, "And the tests are all negative." And I was like, "Great." You know, that's great. He goes, "All right, all right. Bye." I was like, "All right, man. Text me. I don't need you to call me at 9ine with negative result." Like cuz I'm thinking when he called I thought, "Fuck, something's wrong." That's my first thought. You know, it's funny because I said it last night. You become your parents' parent. And that's how they would have thought of me. Like if I called them, you know, at a weird time, my dad would have been like, "What the

[ __ ] did you do?" No, my dad. No. What's wrong? It was never. It was, "What the [ __ ] did you do?" Because my whole childhood, you know, it was always me getting in trouble. You guys were [ __ ] troublemakers. There's no way you weren't.

He was bad. He was probably the worst of us three. I was not great. Constantly in trouble. always.

I just didn't know how to avoid. I loved it. Yo, it's the best. It was just like as soon like as soon as we could drive, I was like, "Dude, we can we're going to get in so much [ __ ] trouble in high school." We used to we used to uh my my buddy Tyler and I we used to get stoned and when there was just like fresh snow. There was a field by my high school and my car was rearwheel drive. So, we we'd [ __ ] get stoned and [ __ ] and do donuts just for hours in that [ __ ] And the cops would come, we'd be ripped off our [ __ ] heads, you know, and we're like, "Oh, no, sorry, sir. We just we got lost." She's like, "You got lost in the field at school." Yeah, we just took a wrong turn. We couldn't wait to do something stupid. I mean, dude, I was selling weed in school like a bozo. That was such a bad idea.

Studying for your ACTs. Yeah, studying for ACTs. Yeah, study at heart. No, I didn't. You know what's so funny? I talked about that the other day. I didn't sell weed to make money. I sold weed so we could get free weed.

I wasn't an entrepreneur. I like if I had any business brains, I would have tried to make money. I just did it so we could get high. It had nothing to do with like

turning a profit. I was probably the worst. I was probably losing money and still selling weed.

Now, was your crew of friends like the funniest kids in school? And was there one guy that Cuz everyone has their one buddy at home that it's like this dude was so [ __ ] funny.

I was probably that guy. A lot of I mean I was probably the biggest goof assass. But like I had a lot of eclectic interesting cats. I mean for me it was like I was a pthead,

you know? I was a pthead who played sports. So like I would hang with a lot of the dudes and get high and do drugs and then I would go do sports too. So, like these I had two groups I kind of touched a bunch of bases. Like a lot of the guys I hang out with that would play sports, they they drink maybe, but they didn't want to [ __ ] with drugs, you know? And then the other guys I'd go dance with if I wanted to go really have some fun, you know what I mean? If I wanted to put something in my throat and disappear,

which Santino are we getting today? Yeah. Well, honestly though, cuz that was in fact, dude, I quit sports my senior year. I quit basketball before drugs. I mean, I had a joke about it where I was like once I found drugs, I was like, "See you later, basketball.

I'm 61 and white, dude. It ain't happening. You know what did I what did I want to do? D3. I mean,

did you play your senior year? No. I wanted to party, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Also, sports to me was just something I loved, but I was like I didn't want to commit to this. I didn't want to do it organized for the school. I just would rather play like a a guy's league cuz I was like, what? I'm not going anywhere with this thing. Why am I wait I'm not getting yelled at by a coach. I'd rather go have fun because I had no future in sports. It was just for fun. So, for me, I was like, I still want to get high, party, and do my thing. I'll just play a men's league if you know what I mean.

Yeah, dude. Way more fun than like going to work out on their schedule. I didn't have a future. Guys that had a future. I was like, you gota you got to get don't get high with me, dude. Go have go do the workouts cuz you know you're 6'4 in black. I'm 6'1 and see-through. I'm not going anywhere.

Two points a game. You know what I mean? I was like, brother, this isn't happening. Bench.

Yeah. Coming off. No, staying on the bench. Garb garbage time, dude. I got the bottom of the barrel. They be like, "Santino, get in." There's 6 seconds left. Inbound the ball, dribble it. You know what I mean? Like, I just It wasn't It wasn't happening.

Like when they let the ball boy come in like the last game of the year. Yeah. The kid with Down syndrome to go shoot one shot and then he keeps missing, but they keep giving him the rebound.

That was me, dude. You would have blocked that. Yeah, I would have blown 100%. Dude, they got to know what it feels like. You can't let him win all the time.

Oh, no. I Yeah, I g I gave it up cuz I knew and I played inter murals in high school and I mean in college just cuz I loved it. But that's I I just knew in high school I was like I'm going to do something in the creative world of like comedy or writing or you know even when I was in high school and I was filling out college applications and they were like what's your future you know what do you want to be and all that [ __ ] even then I posted at one time that I even said I want to be a come comedian and a comedic actor in the creative comedic world of whatever creating or writing or performing. I knew I wanted to do it.

Who was your like idol then? Jim Carrey. Oh [ __ ] He was Jim was like the god to me

in living. Was that in Living Color? Yeah, dude. I used to sit in my mom's basement and watch um me and my best friend Sean. We would sit and and and rewind the tape till it went dead for Dumb and Dumber. We'd rewind the scenes. We we'd play them out to each other. I mean, I would we'd watch that movie for like six hours straight just like doing the scenes again.

I was obsessed with him. It it was crazy. And then, god, I don't even know how many years ago he became my boss. I did a show called I'm Dying Up Here on Showtime that was about the comedy store. It was kind of a drama, which it was a little strange, but Jim was the executive producer, so I I got to work with my with my idol, which was really [ __ ] mindbending.

What What hap like he kind of like isn't isn't in the scene anymore, right? Didn't he get a little black ballalled after

I think he just kind of dis at some point you're like you he has so much money.

They either shoot you down or you leave on your accord. You know what I mean? It's like he probably wanted to just like go chill. He had made all the money. All the [ __ ] money. And so why not just go sit in Malibu and paint? He's he's a painter. He's like a phenomenal painter. Really?

Yeah. He just wants to go sit and paint and do his own thing. I think you get tired of this [ __ ] game.

Yeah. And when you achieved so much like that guy did, you know, between like Dumb and Dumber, The Mask, Ace Ventura,

those are in a chunk. Liar. Liar. And then you're talking after that he did Eternal Sunshine and The Truman Show. And I mean, brother, his his resume is is bananas. So he reached legendary status. It's either they start hating you or you go I I'm going to take a I I'd like I'm going to walk my dog. You know what I mean? Like let me go live my life.

The one year I think he had the mask, East Ventura and maybe one more where there were the three best.

Yeah. They were back to back to back in one year. Yeah. So like you said one year.

It was like a year. It was like a year and a half gap between them. Yeah. He was the biggest thing and like where do you go from there? And like you said it's like ra You'd rather kind of say hey I'm in control of this and I can walk away. I was gonna ask you, so you mentioned uh Curb Your Enthusiasm. You uh you played a pretty big part in Little Dicki show, right? That where you were manager as manager in that one. Uh what was the the most fun that you like had doing one of those shows? And do you are you able to kind of like write what you want to say or you know

in in Curb in Curb, Larry let you do whatever you want, which is kind of rad. He gives you like a the way you audition is um they give you like a character description, right? like it would be like, you know, it would say like uh exNHL player with a bad leg. That's all it would say. And then you would have to make up and you'd have to make up the whole narrative. And so you'd have to do it with Larry.

And they would give you kind of the idea of what he likes the scene to be. And then you fly

and the original character I was going to do on that show um was if you saw the episode, the guy who had the dog named Adolf. Do I don't know if you remember that. Yeah.

Yeah. That that was who I loved that show. I first auditioned for that because I could speak a little bit of German when I was a kid in Chicago. I went to school called Lasal and you had to take a language as like a kid. They wanted to do dual languages. So my mom put me in German like a lunatic.

You're like, "Mom, Jesus. I know. I know. I know this kid's going to be fuck." She goes, "I want I don't want you to have any Jewish friends." So I So my god. So she put me in German and I knew a little bit. So I was doing it in the audition and Larry was loving it. And then um the casting director Allison Jones brought me outside and she was like, "You know, we like you. We want to put you on the show." Larry says, "You don't look you don't look Aryan, dude. You don't look like a you know what I mean? They want like a blondhaired, blue-eyed." Like it's a stereotypical joke of like Hitler's dream. The red hair thing is not going to sell them.

And I was like, "Yeah, that's I get it." And she's like, "But no, he wants you to put something else." So he's building this thing uh he's building a toilet at Latte Larry's if you saw the series. And they want you to be a plumber. You can play a plumber. And I said, "That's fine." And so I went in there, I did the bit, he cracked a few times. I made him crack, which was awesome.

That's going to be huge. Yeah, dude. It changed my life. The two people I made crack that like really made me feel something in the moment, like an improv was him and Julie Drifus. I I auditioned like six times for that [ __ ] show and they never got gave it to me, which is Yeah. Which is nuts.

Whatever that guy you made her crack. She I'm making her laugh was a great moment in my career cuz we were improving and the joke was I was a new intern and um the building was closing down and I made up this whole scenario that uh someone had clogged the toilet. It overflowed and shit's dripping through the vents and the whole roundabout was at the very end admitting that I was the one that sh it was my [ __ ] dripping through the vents and she was cracking up about it. We were laughing and after that I thought I got I got that gig and they called and they were like no I think that I think they want to change the character but when I but but I but I think Julia's a [ __ ] genius so making her laugh was great and then making Larry crack

making Larry laugh it's not like making Jimmy Fallon crack. No no he has to he doesn't have a choice dude. Yeah. No with Larry he doesn't he's he doesn't want to laugh. Like you you got to it's got to be great cuz his goal is to stay in the scene. He doesn't want to laugh. like that's going to ruin this

and he wants it like the more awkward the better that 100%. Yeah. So that was great. But then with Dave, you know, Dave let me fly pretty free on that show, you know, like we had I had lines. Um but the reason he hired me is cuz he liked me and was like, I want you to

he's [ __ ] Has he done standup? No, no, no. No, he just like he was a rapper who's a he's a comedic rap, you know, he's a comedian at heart. He really wanted to be a comic his whole life

and and loves rap and was great at rap. So, you know, that was kind of his path. But Dave let me fly as free as I've ever flown on anything. So, he was great. I mean, I love the kid and I wish we did more, but we weren't going to. It just wasn't going to happen, you know? Like, I think FX wanted to do it one way, he wanted to do another way. Everyone started to break off. I went on tour. I just don't think it was going to happen. You know, people to this day are like, "When is it going to come back?" I'm like "Brother?"

I It was a fun show, man. It was fun to do. Would you say that you've reached the like the pinnacle in comedy? Like, you're one of the top dogs. And if if not, like what would you say like is one thing that you're looking to achieve?

I don't know, man. Like I've done a lot of things that I feel like I really wanted to do. There's no like place I want to play. Do you know what I mean? There's no like doing I I do the Chicago theater every year and that's for me is like

I I Dude, I'm I love it. Every year I go back, it's like the greatest moment at home. Everyone comes out, we throw a huge [ __ ] party. To me, that's that's that's my that's the thing. Like for me it was never like I want to play the United Center where the Bulls play like arenas are cool but my thing was like what in my career did have have a piece of history and influence on what I did and that's what I wanted and I've done a lot of that stuff. I don't think I'm done but like you know I don't have like a lofty I need to do this before I die.

I just want to keep making people laugh and touring around and having fun growing you know what I mean? But I don't there's no like I got to do that thing, you know? Like I I touched a lot of the things I always wanted to do already in my career and I just want to continue on that and then it's going to change, right? Who knows what the [ __ ] this thing's going to be in a decade, you know? So, we'll see. I mean, I I don't know. But I've done a lot of the things that I kind of wanted to do. The only other thing I thought that I wanted to do was, you know, when I was younger, I wanted to do SNL and I I tested for SNL. Um, it was me and my buddy Dan Soder. Shout out Dan Soder and Pete Davidson. And then Pete's the kid that got it.

And I flew to New York, did the audition, flew home, they called and they were like, "Lawren wants you to come back to New York and have lunch." And then my whole team was like, "This is it, baby. You got it. You're going to get it." And I flew back to New York.

He makes you wait forever. You know, this whole game he does. Then I sat in his office and we chatted. He was a very nice dude. I mean, I love the dude. I respect the [ __ ] out of what he built. And he's the man. He was like, "Look, I think you're great. You're gonna have a great career, but you're not the puzzle piece I think I'm looking for, so to speak.

Like, dude, I didn't have to fly back for that. 100%. Could have could have called, you know,

at the Aaron Rogers. Yeah, bro. Yeah, dude. Why why the [ __ ] did I fly here? But I mean, I respect the guy cuz he wanted to see me again. And I and I and I I actually I in the even in the time I wasn't bitter about it cuz he I was 30 years old. He was like 19 or whatever the [ __ ] he was when he got that show. He was a kid. I had already been on TV. So, for me it was like I get it. I wasn't bitter at all. Like me and Soder, I got why we were older than he wanted us to be. You know, the only reason Sod and I were up for it is because he wanted like a guy's guy, a guy who like plays sports, drinks. He wanted like a Will Ferrell archetype in his mind. He wants a guy again. And he went with Pete because Pete was young and malleable and cool. You know what I mean? He was like a cool kid for the youth. We were We were just a little bit older.

You're in the middle. Yeah. It was just different. It was just a different time. And that show is built for young people. That show is not made for That's why people in their 40s are like, "That show sucks." It's like, yeah, it's for high school kids, man.

It's not for us. Cuz you liked it the most when you were in high school. But do you feel that when it was in its like best days though, it pertained to to like also the 40 and 50 year olds?

I think when it's even in its best days, it still always played to a younger audience. We just think about it differently because we get older and the show gets younger.

Okay. But but you know, like Farley days, you know, like like those days, everyone did culturally like it, but that's cuz the culture of comedy was different than it is now. Like my dad liked it, but that's also cuz that what was going on in culture where like

they would write sketches for everybody like you know my dad and I still you know we'll all quote you know everyone knows the Bears everybody knows the super fans but that's cuz it was a cultural thing but now they write for young people because it's just the time times are different you know but

I still respect this the institution I still loved it that was the only thing that I thought would have been fun to do but now you know I'm 42 is a different

this might be a dumb question. Is there a is there a more mature like sk like like sketch show? Like is there a different

No, it's not. And and they do have sketches for they're they're not just talking to the youth, but I just think they angle for the youth. You know what I mean? Like

there was a big Yeti or like the Stanley, you know, that they had an episode. But is you think there's an opportunity where maybe like some of the older vets that who are, you know, maybe even like

I mean Peele did a great job of that when they their sketch show was definitely for uh not high school kids. I would argue like their theirs was for in the 20s and 30s and a little bit up.

Um, you know, Chappelle Show was probably the greatest sketch show that was ever created of all time. And that was for literally anybody.

That was that was literally for anybody. That was for people that just wanted to laugh at something [ __ ]

[ __ ] real world with the two white. Get the [ __ ] You actually told us last night you were talking about um whoever went after you like it was hard. You crushed it, you know, and like they're coming on after. We were saying like before you go, do you want the person in front of you to do well or do you actually want them to do bad and then it's easier for you? You were saying I want them to give it their best. [ __ ] yeah.

And then that time you who else was with you but Chappelle was the last guy. Chappelle Chappelle loves to put people in front of him who who c like the last show that we did together uh that I went out to Dave. I did the summer series out in Yellow Springs and you know it was like me and Gillis and um and D. Rosa and it was like he he loves people to get out there and to smash cuz he's such a confident legend that he's like I don't give a [ __ ] how good you do. I'm going to do better.

I'm still better than Well, yeah. He's the guy. So, like, you know, it's cowardly to me when you bring people that are weak on the road and a lot of headliners do it, you know, and they bring people that, you know, that you know, they're not going to do that good so then you look better. I think that's [ __ ] dude. I want to bring people that I think are phenomenal comics. You know what I mean? Cuz you want

That's your game. Yeah. Well, like look, when you guys when you're playing you the playing to the level of your competition is a fact. And in our world, it's playing to the level of your peers. If you're with shittier comics or you're with people that aren't as developed, you you might not do as good. You know, like it might set the tone in a different way. You want people to kill like you want you want people to smash so that the room is hyped and then they're prepared. Then you better bring your good [ __ ]

It better work. But that's the pressure you need to be good, I think. So Chappelle Chappelle is

he's got a [ __ ] in the middle of the show. Yeah, that's okay. That's why we got three of us, dude.

Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. We don't need him, dude. But Chappelle Chappelle is Dave is like one of the guys, you know, my respect level for Dave is is you I can't articulate. I think he's one of the most generous, nice, cool guys at his level who could be a dick if he wanted to. like he's so big. He doesn't need to like he doesn't need your adoration. He doesn't give a you know what I mean? Like

he genuinely is a comedy fan who loves comics. He loves the world and I think he's birthed something amazing out there in Yellow Springs. He lets people come out and play that club and play the field in the summer series and he and he makes a community. Do you know what I mean? Like

is that in Ohio where he Yeah, Yellow Springs. It's it's uh Columbus is I think the closest town. It's like an hour or something away. Something like that.

Is that the when he did the special where it was outside? What What do you mean? What is the what's

in the summer series? He built like this pergola in a corn field and I don't know how many people it sits maybe a thousand something like that maybe a little bit more. And they literally built like an outdoor like amphitheater.

So it's his like it's his Rogan's uh mothership type. Yeah. But he also has an indoor club. He has the firehouse which used to be a firehouse in Yellow Springs. He turned it into into the club. But this he does in the summer. The summer series is outside. Um and we've done both. I played both. But uh it's I don't know dude. The guy wanted to make a community and and bring great comics and put on a phenomenal show. And I think it's it's just rad. He supported and Rogan's the same way. That's why Joe built that club. He believes in the community of comedy. And he wants people to come grow and create their own world there and kill. And you know, Joe likes that too.

Joe always put Joe Joe always put hitters in front of him. So does Gillis. Gillis Gillis, you know, put me and Tony Hinchcliffe and D. Rosa we just did together. Like the best comics always want good comics in front of them. Yeah. That's a fact. Like it just is.

Like last night like incredible like jokes about Mexicans, about a black pilot. And for a while like it kind of changed a little bit where you just couldn't say things. Uh maybe I'm wrong, but now it's like switched back almost. Well, it's almost like people were I think like I think like we never changed. Comics never changed, but like the perception of comedy changed because of the internet got nervous about

Yeah. who was going to be judging and all that stuff. And I don't think we've ever been restricted ever. I've been the same comic I was from the beginning. The difference I think now is people, it's more them than us. We're not afraid to say [ __ ] And comics say whatever they want all the time. A lot of them say real out of pocket [ __ ] but but for the most part, it's more the idea that the crowds were afraid that if they liked it or laughed, were they doing something wrong? like the internet kind of did something to people's social meters and they they were like peeking like

is that okay to talk about? It's like that's on them. Like we we're just there to like talk [ __ ] about something that's happening

and give levity to something either [ __ ] up or dark or weird or and the crowds are the ones that shifted a little bit what you're talking about. But it's all come back cuz people have realized like that was

that was [ __ ] crazy. A weird time. Well, co [ __ ] people up crazy. Everyone got fired and everyone was like panicking about the world ending. And so I think

it did something to the society of comedy, but not to the comics. We were just we were sitting in the foxhole doing the same [ __ ] just waiting for it to happen again. You know, we're that's all we're doing. But yeah, you it was never I don't believe in the you can't say what you can or can't say. I've changed nothing. I've been the same guy. Every comic I know who's working, they're the same. They didn't [ __ ] shift because this

there's just a moment there like what's it was a moment in time where I feel like the audiences, the crowds and the internet were telling people one thing that wasn't really real. It's the same way I feel when somebody says like uh you know people have their ideas and you guys probably know cuz you when you tour when you play it's like you have your idea of a city and then sometimes you go play it you go damn this is way better than I [ __ ] thought. I think this I thought that place was gonna suck [ __ ] Then you go and the people are great.

The fans are wonderful. They come out and see you. They're they're they're more in tune to your to the comedy world than you thought. I mean, I think go when you go meet the people, you realize the internet is [ __ ]

You know, the perception of like, yo, that's a that's a liberal place and that's a that's a Republican place. That's all [ __ ] dude. There's everybody's everywhere. And most people kind of feel the same, which is, you know, let everyone do your own thing. Leave me alone.

I just trying to raise my kids and go to work, you know? Like most people are like, "Yeah, leave me alone. We're just trying to have fun. And I don't want to be judged.

The people that are talking [ __ ] online, too. They're probably not even the people coming out to watch you.

No, they're lo everyone that's sitting online doing their best to take, you know, to throw their negative opinions on everything. It's like every [ __ ] It's every sports journalist and critic and, you know, everyone that's got the biggest mouth probably does the did the least. You know what I mean? Like the guys that probably talk the most [ __ ] probably contributed the least. And I've talked to a bunch.

I can I can attest to that. I just rip guys on this podcast. I was playing three minutes a game. I'm like, "This guy's not a first line center." But I like when you

He's never going to hit the 100 point mark again. When you get in fights, it's good though. When you start You like to start [ __ ] though. That's your thing.

Did you see the one when he fought your cousins? Well, you fought my cousins. The Irish Travelers.

You don't like those guys, right? Yeah. No, I was at Houston's and they [ __ ] were picking on the manager and then they [ __ ] boot [ __ ] my head in at the CVS.

Beat up five of them, though. Yeah, I'll show you. You got down five? No, I You I'll show you the clip after. Okay.

Yeah. Anyway, the Irish travelers. No, it was we found out later on that these guys, it was like a bunch of drunk guys on a golf trip. So, the video came out later. They were at a place earlier on the golf course and they were trying to close him up for last call and then one of the guys like sucker punched the the one of the servers,

a woman uh she took shrapnel from it, but he ended up connecting with a guy, so she got it too. Whatever you want to call it, assault. So they ended up coming over to I think they ended up going over to Roose Chris and then they ended up at the Houston's and I'm I just you know I my my favorite restaurant

favorite restaurant I eat at there like four guy loves Houston. I love it. Have you ever been there?

Are you Houston's over Mastros? Oh yeah. Just cuz it's way less of an event. Right.

I don't need the [ __ ] lady playing the piano. I just want to go into Houston.

Show me the I don't need [ __ ] crack. Yes. You go up to the piano. You give her a couple of bucks and go take a break. You don't want to hear a turn. You just go, "Hey, Bobby's going to come in."

Oh, yeah. The 60-year-old dude with the [ __ ] 25year-old, you know, um, only fans model is going to love that one. He's there to get his entertainment. But long story short, I always smoke a little bit of a Jay, go in, eat my food, and after I ordered, they're [ __ ] nine of them were surrounded. One of the managers, and I mosy on over, and I grab the guy's arm off him, and I'm like, "Hey, you guys keep doing this. We're going to have issues." And that the minute that left my mouth, I got a and then next thing you know it was like the chicken and and Peter Griffin going.

It was crazy. But um this is my favorite restaurant. So I was speaking of fights, I was going to ask you. We talked about how you don't go after the girls and sometimes it's funnier to make fun of the guys. What are the most intense situations that you found yourself in? Cuz there's alcohol in the mix. Oh yeah. Maybe uh other comedians stealing other comedians jokes where there's

Have you been Have you been stolen? I've never been stolen from ever. No, I've never been stolen from. Uh, but I have seen the, you know, the comedy store is home to some of the greatest fights of all time. I mean, Ari Shafir punched Bobby Lee in the face was probably one of the greatest. Uh,

Were you there for it? No, dude. I wish I wish I was there. Yeah, because because Bobby Cuz Ari's girlfriend was cheating on him with another guy that Bobby introduced her to and he got the gruff for it. So, he sucker punched the [ __ ] out of Bobby at the I mean, dude, they didn't talk for years after that. But there's been at that club there's been there's there's comics over the years you'll have beef. But like I never had like any guy from the audience ever charge the stage. But that's happened a lot to guys where they get into a you know it's happened many times in that o where some drunk [ __ ] doesn't like that the comics making fun of him in front of his girl and they charge the stage and they start a little baby war. I never had to deal with any of that [ __ ] Like for me I never had it where I got into an argument with you know with someone and it turned that south cuz I just it's not

my style. The only time I had a tough time, I played a a gig in Long Island and is when I first started out and the owner had all his like, you know, Guido [ __ ] buddies, you know, yapping it up the whole time. I can say that, dude. I'm Italian.

Okay. You know, he had a bunch of wops at the table and they were, you know, and they were there, you know, and I would, and they talked to the host, they talked to the feature. I said to the guy, I was like, "Man, you got to get rid of these, man. They're [ __ ] wasted, man. They're yelling." He's like, "No, they don't leave." You know, they were his people. They were like Long Island locals. And then I went up there and I was like, "Man, you're gonna talk the whole time. I'm just not going to do my show." And I sat on the stool for like 30 minutes just like

And they were just kept talking. Yeah. Just having a cocktail. And the guy was like, "That's the most unprofessional shit." I was like, "You left those guys in the room." And the guy was like, "You'll never come back." And I go, "You know, I'll never [ __ ] come back here." And I haven't been back [ __ ]

How about that? I'll never go back. [ __ ] that place. Quiet and fire them. Yeah. No, that you know, that'd be that would be [ __ ] rad. No, he just The way he handled it sucked. And he said it was my fault. Like as if I did anything. I was a young comic trying to work, you know what I mean? Like all making probably 1,200 for the weekend of shows, you know what I mean? And that's a grind. That's the hardest 1,200 you ever [ __ ] make.

You're staying right where the uh coliseum was, too. For sure. That Marriott in the parking lot.

It's the worst. You're always I'm always you're always facing a highway or a or a [ __ ] satis [ __ ] or a Pepsi machine or some [ __ ] outside of your room. You can hear the buzz of it. You know what I mean? Like those those days were the that's the tough cuz you got to do two shows Thursday, two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, and sometimes they make you do Sunday. So those was a grind, man. And you're eating [ __ ] Those are, you know, quarter sold out rooms, quarter sold rooms, sometimes less. You know, they had to pay, we call it papering, which means giving away free tickets. So they paper the rooms and you're not making a you're making $1,200 the hardest way you can make it, which is a week there.

Plus, you had to pay for your flights or try to get, you know, try to get driven somewhere if it was a drive. And then plus, you know, food and the hotel. I mean, you know, a lot of times you're cracking even on mo on some of those.

Any of those times you're like, I'm not doing this. Like I never even thought about quitting.

No, because because I would just I would have a day job. I would have a gig to make money to pay rent. I wanted the job to make money and comedy to be my life. And then, you know, then you learned then the the levels start to change at some point. But no, there was no moment where I was like, "Fuck this." Because part of the suck is great. You know what I mean? Especially because when you're young, you know, you'll go out with locals. You know, you'll end up underneath a pool table in Missoula, Montana after doing some whippets. You know what I mean? Like there's some nights I had some [ __ ] great nights, you know what I mean? Where you end up at some house party.

Oh, bro, there was some wonderful nights on the road. Like it's part of the experience of the group. Now

it's that's why I said about before with young kids, with young comics, I'm always like, "Enjoy this ride, brother." because it doesn't like what I have they want, but what they have I loved. You know what I mean? Like it was awesome because for me now

I go to a nice hotel, we have a nice dinner, go to Houston's, crack one out and then I go to the show and then I go home. You know what I mean? Or we go out.

What's your order? What's my order? Houston. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm usually I like a prime I'm a big prime rib guy.

Oh yeah. Prime rib salad, biz. Oh, the traditional salad with thous salad after. Why don't they Houston's get your [ __ ] together. Name a salad after the kids.

I've been trying What's your What's your salad? What's in it? Traditional salad. It just That's the one on the menu.

But how do you make it biz worthy? This could be an hour. Can I get a Caesar salad, but no Caesar dressing? No Roma. I want He changes his He's the worst guy.

Oh, that's not a bad order. I imagine you tip. Well, I do. All right. Yeah. Well, then Oh, he's What do you mean? Automatic,

dude. His face was insane. Automatic 20. Yeah. All right. Well, you know what's funny is when you We've talked about this. When you get

literally on the contract, they do all right. When they know when they know who you are, you got to tip more.

Oh, yeah. We don't We We We're the worst. Cuz like comics, when they know who you are,

you better [ __ ] tip good. Okay. Like you you you don't have a choice because you don't want it getting back that they're like,

"So, what do you go what do you go to? 25%." It's always bill dependent. It's how big the bill was, right? Like, but I but you know like

you can't have if it's a h 100 bucks, you're throwing 30 on there. If it's a $100 bill, I'll probably Yeah, you probably give 30 or 40 bucks. Yeah. Cash, but I always do cash. I don't tip on the thing.

Oh, you do the cash. Even though now Well, that's old school. That's from my dad only because now they don't tax tips now, right? Didn't Didn't they change that law? But back

Trump changed that. Yeah, Trump did that. Yeah. No taxes on tips. You can get this tip for free.

I never I never thought we were going to get a Trump impression. Yeah, you Yeah, you got one.

You get this tip for free, little lady. Uh, no. Yeah, there's no tax. No, no, keep going. You can only do the rest of the pod in front.

No problem. Biz, busy boy. Business. Have you met him? I No. Well, no, I never met him, but I saw him get out of a [ __ ] helicopter at his golf course.

He landed on the on the seventh uh on the seventh like fairway green split um down in Miami.

That's a hole in one. I got another one. Yeah, dude. He landed in Miami. It was wild to watch. They brought brought in the choppers and [ __ ] It was so [ __ ] We were playing golf.

He was president. Did Did this happen? This was last year. We were playing golf. It was before the live event. Yeah. Before the event. We were playing golf and I was out there with um Fat Perez and Pat Perez. We were about We were going to film. We were We were shooting like setup stuff

and this one guy's like, "Get the [ __ ] off. Get the [ __ ] off." And I was like, "Fuck you. We're supposed to be filming." Like I'm talking [ __ ] And then he starts to walk towards me. I'm like, "Dude, there's a big [ __ ] guy.

He's got a weapon." Yeah. It was a big [ __ ] No, just a big dude. and all black and he's like, "Get the [ __ ] off now." And I was like, "Whoa." And he's like, "The president will be coming soon. Get off." And I was like, "Say less. I don't want to be choked out." You know what I mean? Like this dude because they they have all these local private security then comes in um secret secret service and then comes in his security that's also with him from the golf course. Like he's got four levels of people that are like the amount of people you see when he gets in there. It was I I couldn't honestly maybe a hundred new people and it happened like that. It was like whoa, what the [ __ ] Like you looked around coming out of the bushes. It sounds like I'm I'm joking. They literally come out of the [ __ ] bushes on the golf course and they were like down. So we literally sat on the [ __ ] grass. You sat down.

See my ball. Yeah. Is that a titleist? Leave the titleist if he's landing there.

Fluff it up a little bit. Yeah. Give me a good line. I played at my Jordan's course and Obama's been playing this while he wasn't even president and there's secret service everywhere. It's like a tough place to it's like dorado at the Grove, right?

Yeah. But it's like just coming out of everywhere you're like holy [ __ ] Like their security is legit.

I heard a rumor. I'm not going to say the course cuz I don't want to get my buddy in trouble. But it's the only time that there was a group. There's like a big ball group, you know, like in the morning like all the boys go out and it's like a huge, you know, it's like your team versus this team versus that team and it's got to be like six or seven forsomes. And Obama was playing this course and they played through. And I was like, that's the most gangster.

Yeah. If you're playing through the president, that's that's legit. They were like, you know, he's like, oh, sorry, boys. And they were like, no, brother, you got to wait. I was like, that's insane, dude.

I was playing his course to play through the president. Hey, you got to watch this drive, Obama. Chill out.

Trump played through us at West Palm and like the 17th hole, the T- box is like dead up a hill like 30 yards. So, all of a sudden, like it's very clear like everyone moves. He just ripped his cart up the hill like he like the thing was ready to tip over. He parks it right on top of the hill next to the T- box and then he's just off. He just hits and then like the ball's out there and they just kick it into the fairway. They knock it into the hole. We're watching. He's like, I shot 66.

Yeah, I shot 17 under. only miss one birdie. Uh, you know, it's so funny. It's like they they say that dude, he takes the regulator off the golf carts. Go his goes a little bit faster than everybody else's at all his courses so he can stay ahead of everybody. You can't. But it I get it. If I'm that guy, you don't get in front of me. This is my course. You stay behind me. You know what I mean? Like he's he probably has to the point where he can turn on and off the carts. You know what I mean? He'd be like, "Wait, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Shut this down. Shut him down." The other image What color are you? You're a little dark. You're a little dark boy. Are you fully white? I only like you if you're fully white. He's not.

Yeah. What are you, Bis? I'm My mom's half black. I'm Yeah. That's the end of the show.

No wonder you were half late to this podcast. Oh, no. I was here before 5 though, Mr. Trump.

Oh, that's what they say. I don't know. Where were you? Downstairs. I was putting one in a towel just like throwing one down

just like our buddy Santino will do. Mr. President, I respect that Santino. I love that little orange freak. I love that little boy. My little Cheeto puff. I love that guy.

Yeah, we we saw him get out of the chopper and I was like, "Holy [ __ ] dude." It was It was fascinating to watch him descend upon the golf course. And also that course that Trump in Miami might be the hardest course I've ever played in my [ __ ] life, dude. The Blue Monster. That's what it's called. water everywhere with wind, traps everywhere, and there and there isn't a short hole. I think the par threes were like 230. I was like, "This is a [ __ ] This is

that's dumb." It's Well, dude, the pros. So, we I played that week with Fat Fat and Pat Perez, um uh uh uh uh John Rom, and I did one more and all those guys, and these are the best in the world. And all those guys were like, "This course is a bitch."

And I was like, "If you're saying that, I'm going to get eaten alive." Yeah. I'm glad we're talking about golf cuz you you actually have a a show as well.

Oh yeah. No Bad Lies. No Bad Lies. I've seen a few of your guests. Uh a random one. Ben Baller.

Yeah, Ben Ball. Well, Ben Baller in the LA world of golf. Everyone knows the guy, man, cuz he's around. He just really started to like get into golf like big time. I mean, like that's all he does. He plays like four days a week. And uh it's funny, man, cuz he's one of those dudes. He's like in LA, everyone kind of knows him. And because of Bobby Lee, I'm like plugged in with the Asians. Yeah.

They love me, dude. I've got the past, dude. He's got like he's always blinged out whether it's jewelry, whether it's the night.

Did you see on the episode he talked about Kanye tried to commission a swastika out of diamonds from him. We talked about it in the episode. Kanye was like, I I want a swastika full of diamonds and Bener was like, no way. And I was like,

I know a guy, you know what I mean? How much how much did he offer? He didn't even It wasn't even a number. He didn't even get around. But some guy made it. Some dude actually made it for him. Yeah, I have it. Kanye gave it to me. I've got it at the

Yeah. Insane though, dude. The guy wanted a diamond swastika. I was like, "Brother, this guy Well, somebody told me the other day, a Kanye apologized

to the Jews." Didn't he do that? What did he say? Sorry. Met with a rabbi there. That's funny.

He wore his chain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you're doing uh you do the uh the voice of Bobby Lee's dad sometimes, too. Oh, on the show all the time.

And that is so [ __ ] funny. And now you were telling us last night about your anim your

We have an animated show. So, and where you'll play his dad? I will be playing his dad because he even says it. He's like, I do his dad better than he did his dad. But his dad, you know, his stories were I never met the man. He died when when when we started the show and I never met Bob's dad. They lived down in San Diego. I met his mom, but I never met his father, but his, you know, his dad he had a tough it was tough for him. Like his dad was a little, you know, I'm not I don't want to speak out of turn, but his dad was a little bit tough of a father. Probably a little too like

Yeah. too many hands on, you know, too many hands on deck. And uh Bobby had a weird relationship with him where he loved him, but it but it was a lot of trauma. But his dad, you know, his dad was, you know, he's an immigrant that he's had some choice [ __ ] to say. So like Bob would have guys over at the house and they'd be like playing music and he's like, "Are you gay?" He's like, "No." He's like, "If you're gay, I kill everybody. I kill all of your friend if you're gay." He's like, "I'm not gay." He's like, "If I find out you're gay, I murder you cold blood."

But he would say that, dude, that his dad would say that [ __ ] This is dead serious. This isn't He's not doing it for a laugh.

And Bobb's like, "I'm not gay." And he's like, "Did you kill his dog or something?"

Oh, well, dude. Yeah, they just Yeah, they let the dog go the dog the dog was allergic or something.

Yeah. Yeah. The dog he his father was uh a dynamic personality. I mean, Bobby can tell all his dad stories. I don't want to step on his toe.

Why? He came home one day and it was like served for dinner. Oh, it was Yeah, it was an appetizer. It's a small dog.

Yeah. And not a lot of meat on that thing, dude. It was stuffed with kimchi. Oh, yeah. You gota Yeah, you got stomach, right? You know.

Yeah. Pickle it. No, but he had such dark stories about his dad. So, when we sold the animated show, which hopefully, you know, hopefully it's going to it's going to come out.

Oh, we'll buy it. I'm hoping, dude. I'm hoping. And and yeah, the pitch was, you know, I play his dad because we loved it. That's I play his dad's ghost on the show. So, his dad is in an urn and the ern talks to us, you know, and gives us advice and [ __ ] In the pilot episode, his dad, I'm not going to give anything away, but his dad does his dad is our um the pilot episode, we have to do something for his dad. Unfinished business is the name of the episode cuz he did something on Earth and we've got to fix it now from the afterlife for his dead father.

And he's telling you and he tells us what to do. I can't tell. I don't want to blow it. I don't want to blow what it is.

Can you give us a few other Yeah. Yeah. It's fun though. It's fun [ __ ] But like that was that's that you know that was kind of the growth of the show was like cuz all these stories we had from high school cuz high school was wild. Like he was a great musician who was like a music nerd, comedy freak and was funny and goofy and crazy but also got in a lot of trouble. Bob was a drug addict. You know, Bob's sober now, but when he was in high school, I mean, he was smoking crack. I mean, he would I mean, he would do anything. That kid would do any when I've seen him relapse, I mean, holy [ __ ]

It's a miracle he's alive almost. Yeah, dude. I put him in rehab twice and and we're never going to do it again. I hope in in my heart because I love him so I care so about him so much. But um when he was in high school, he can't, you know, I think a lot of the trauma he suffered, he started doing a lot of drugs and he loved to get [ __ ] just gone. And you know,

what would Bobby's dad say about the drug use? Did he was he aware of it? Well, yeah, but you know what's so funny is like it I think he I think his dad spoke with his hands

I think his dad spoke with his hands about drugs. You know what I mean? It wasn't like a uh you're in trouble now. You know what I mean? It was none of that [ __ ] [ __ ] Like, you know, I think he got I think he got the worst end of it all. Like with my parents, it was like when they caught me smoking weed for like the 50th time. You know, my mom was like, "You're going to grow up to be a nothing if you continue on this path. Look at me now."

You You still smoke? Yeah. I like to get high, but I don't get high like I used to. I mean, I I used to

Before you perform? Never? No. No. Not before I perform. We talked a little sass. You know, Lil Sass. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's He's funny guy. Francis, we sat down with Son of a Boy Dad and he was talking about how early in his career he would like have Selzers before he would go up. So, I don't know if when you started.

Oh, I I always have a I like that. A cocktail doesn't mean I mean, you know, I could that's nothing for me. That's kind of I'm Irish. That's a part of it. Like, I can have a cocktail on stage or not. It doesn't really matter to me. So, it depends on the day and if I'm feeling it. But, like I used to workout shows and I would smoke a joint in workout shows. Um, but now I like to get high at night to to level. I don't want to Yeah, I love to I love to get high and write, but I'd rather get high when I'm no work when when I'm like it's that's like my glass of wine for an old white woman in the suburbs, you know? Like I want to smoke a joint, play with a dog, watch, you know, watch sports and then peel off to bed. I don't want to like get high and then go work. That's kind of the opposite for me. I used to be that way.

I mean, dude, I started smoking when I was 15 years old and, you know, I've operated high all day long. That's all I did, you know. And then until I was about 33, 34, I started to be like, "All right, man. Let me use it as like a as my little treat, you know. So at night, I'll get

I'm not waking up and smoking anymore." No, not No. Cuz I just I got [ __ ] to do, man. I mean, you know, big

Some guys can do it, dude. There's a lot of guys that that's how they live. But I just feel like I for me it's like, nah, man. I got employees. I got responsibilities. is like for me it's like when I get home also there's nothing better than smoking a joint and taking my dog for a walk is like good god

dog walking is my I wish I could do that created those dog walkers we heard about it last night at dinner

oh you guys you guys were talking about my dog Yeah we heard about it get the [ __ ] out did my dog come up at dinner

how did that even come up this guy that's all he wants to talk about that's all you want to talk about is how my

I don't even think I brought it up no he didn't bring it up I didn't bring it up

well I definitely didn't [ __ ] bring it up. It was probably his friend he brought that had heard Yans talking about it was like, "Dude, is that

Oh, yeah, that is probably true. My buddy who's with us. Yeah, he's a big fan of the podcast."

Yeah, that's actually that's probably who it was. Like, that's the guy. He was really heartbroken he didn't come over and say hi.

He was pissed. He was He was not happy. Yeah, I was kind of in the big dog mood last night.

That's your one dog you got left? Yeah. Oh, actually, [ __ ] I had to. Yeah, I've had a few and got them taken. when you do uh the show with Bobby like is there any outline? There's not like

Yeah. No. So, we do not for him. I mean, for me, we do a lot of pre-prep with the producers over like what we're going to do depending on like what the episodes are. But, I mean, a lot of times there's days where we want to fly free. Like, we know what we're going to be talking about or we'll set up a theme for the show.

Um, especially if they have like scene readings or bits that we want to do and all that stuff, but a lot of times we don't even get to it cuz Bob doesn't want to do it. Not that it's like we're if we're cruising and we're having fun, we just never get around to it, you know? Like, but that's kind of the beauty of that show. It was always that way. We would set up a bunch of [ __ ] and if we didn't get to it, we didn't [ __ ] get to it.

And that's freefor-all. Yeah. Sometimes cuz if him and I are humming, forget about it.

That's That's the goal right there. Oh, man. If we're in the groove, it's like there's nothing better.

When I'm saying stuff, there's times when I'm like, "God damn, dude. We're This is wild." Like, cuz we're bouncing really well. He's my He is like my ultimate comedy counterpart. I've never I've never met someone in the business

that I bounce with like that. Not even [ __ ] close. That's the best that you you found them, right?

Yeah. I mean, it was kind of gifted to us. We was right under our nose. I said that last night. You know, his ex-girlfriend Kala, credit to her. She was like, "You guys should do the show together." Cuz I would guest host and we would crush. And she was like, "Why don't you guys do the show?" And I was like, "I don't want to step on toes, man. You have your show. I'm doing my It's I don't want to." I didn't want to like start beef and for it to be like, "Oh, you're going to do that show now." You know, and she was the one that was like, "You should. There's no reason you guys shouldn't." So, credit to her for real. She was great in She was instrumental in that beginning. And then

when when we did that first episode, man, I knew I said that last night to you guys. I was like,

"That's it. We got something here." Fun. Well, because we were we always were we would fight in real life,

so we'd fight on the show. It worked. Carving each other. I feel like I kind of like us like we we keep each other honest. And I I also don't mind being [ __ ] on. Like we got a we got a Sandbagger coming out with Paige Spring and we were watch Spiranic. [ __ ] I always [ __ ] her name up and Pasha was editing it and these guys are just [ __ ] grilling me the entire time and I'm laugh I'm laughing my dick off. Um,

did you beat her by the way? You can't take a joke. You become a joke. Oh yeah, you can't say it's not out.

Yeah, it's not out. I was partaneatch I was partatch Yeah, it was a great match. Uh, I was partners with her. But you kind of touched on the Bobby stuff like like the the darker side of comedy like is it like I mean I don't know if you've ever dealt with stuff. It seems like there's just so many highs and lows for the industry. Well, I think you kind of pull from some I mean, everyone I don't think you need to have a dark upbringing to like make good comedy, but I think most of my friends do. I mean, you know, like when I was a kid, you know, I think a lot of my [ __ ] or my view on the world comes from, you know, my my, you know, I had this I had two worlds. I had this Irish side of my family. My mom's side as she's one of 10 kids and my grandfather was a firefighter and that was this bluecollar working world that I came from. And then my dad, my my biological father, you know, who's kind

of a hustler and was a contractor and his dad was a a gambling addict who lived at the literally worked and lived at the dog track and at the horse track in Chicago. And that was this different completely different world. And my father went to prison when I was a kid. So he was in and out of jail when I was a kid. Was into drug addict. Was a drug I He's clean and sober now, but you know, it was that was my world was very odd as a kid. My parents got divorced when I was one. So my view was a little skewed of like what was normal. I used to ask people, I was like, "I want a house on the ground." I used to say that all the time. I was jealous if you lived on the ground because we we lived in apartments. So I was like, "Man, one day I'm going to get a [ __ ] house on the ground." And then my mom found my dad, my my stepdad who who really raised me and, you know, moved my mom out to the suburbs and my life changed again then,

you know. But when I was a kid, I I definitely had a chip on my shoulder because my old man wasn't around, you know. I mean, I I I don't carry it with me like I used to, but yeah, it probably prompted the reason that I got kicked out of a couple of schools for being a [ __ ] I was fighting, you know? I love

the world a little mad. Yeah, I couldn't wait. You an older child? I have a younger sister, but she's from my mom and my stepdad, but she's 9 years young, so the difference the gap was huge. I was out of college before she got to high school,

so she was always my baby sister. I mean, I love we're that's my homie now, but she was my baby. You know what I like it was hard to see her as a sibling cuz I I used to hold her and she had a um I think it was called a nebulizer. I used to have to to give her cuz her lungs there was something with her lungs. I used to have to hold her and give her oxygen at night, you know? So like for her it it was different for me. My relationship wasn't like a

a niece almost. Well, yeah, we got we did we got there when she got older, but for the most part it was, you know, that was my baby sister.

Mix all that in like you're talking about like the past for some of these comedians or if not most of them along with the highs and lows of like having to go out there and maybe bombing and just so it feels like not only with your past along with the industry, it could make for some heavy heavy up and down.

Oh yeah. I mean, look, dude, you it you either you it either it either makes you or it breaks you. Like I've seen it do both things. I've seen a lot of guys,

you've probably seen some pretty talented guys that So many that didn't make it, too.

So many. I've seen so many guys. I've also seen a lot of guys make it and then get in their own way and [ __ ] up their opportunities.

Yeah. Because they they you know, you rest on your see in sports, too. You I was going to say you guys have to see that in the league. You have to see guys that think they're the [ __ ] that they've gotten a little bit of the taste and then they get passed by cuz everyone else is putting in the work, you know, like

y it's it's just so, you know, that Rick Ross line is one of my favorite lines when he was uh

Kobe, you know, Kobe's about to lose 150 m. [ __ ] wasn't with me shooting in the gym. That's my favorite [ __ ] line.

That was That was uh Was that Drake who said that? And I believe Drake had to apologize to

Wait, that wasn't Rick Ross that said that. Yeah, Rick Ross. Yeah, [ __ ] She wasn't with me shoeing in the gym.

Maybe he was a different line. I just love that world of like, yeah, dude, you and it's not even a comment about the that relationship. I'm saying that clicked to me of like whenever somebody says something like, uh, ah, you just you popped out of nowhere. It's like, dude, you weren't with me in the [ __ ] gym. You're crazy. Yeah. It's the same thing. the I talked to I was with a buddy two weeks ago, a pro alete, an ex ball player, and um I said the difference between us cuz he was doing a similar comparison of like you want to know more about our world. I was asking about baseball and he said uh he's like but then why is it why is it that people feel like you know they can do what you do? I said because they can they know they physically can't do what you do.

Like every [ __ ] knows they can't physically do what you guys do. They just do. If you ever [ __ ] got on the ice, you know you can't do what you guys do. But with us, they can see us on a stage and they go, I tell a couple of jokes at work. I can [ __ ] fart into a microphone.

So like ours just look so easy, but they don't know what the workouts are. With you guys, it doesn't even matter what the workouts are.

They know they can't do they just know they can't do that. So they they put us in this weird category as a professional sometimes where they're like, I can be funny. like the [ __ ] you can because you've got to put in 10,000 hours at shitty little clubs at gunning and running and constantly writing and mo and taking hits and taking losses. You're taking so many [ __ ] L's when you begin your career. And so unless someone's in the gym with you and the only other people in the gym are other comics, you don't they don't know.

Is there is there one one guy that you would say was like the natural who maybe didn't have to go through that type of grind who made it to the top?

No, because anybody that's good did the grind, right? Chappelle was 16 years old and he was doing comedy when he started. But he still put in those work. He put in all that work.

He was like flying up to DC. Yeah. When he was a kid, dude, when he was when he was a high school kid, but he still put in the work. He was still grinding in New York. Like I don't think there was a story of uh that he made it overnight. Now he's a superstar.

Like a freak athlete. What about Matt? Right. Couple years, didn't really have to grind that hard and next thing you know he's like,

you know, it never lasts. How about that? If that does happen, it never lasts. But but Re dude Refe put in the work. That kid put That's another thing.

He was in the gym. People don't know that. I I met that kid out here when he was a kid, dude. He was a kid. He came around the Laugh Factory

and you know, young babyfaced kid and sweet just the sweetest nicest kid and was working. That kid [ __ ] worked. But

people saw he blew up on the internet and they're like, "Oh man, Reid." It's like, "Nah, brother. That kid [ __ ] worked." Now whether or not you like his [ __ ] whole different story. Like if you don't like crowd work or you don't like the way he performs, fine. But that kid put in work. I mean, I don't know. Like Gilly puts put in crazy work. You know, Gillis blew up in the last 5 years and people were like, "This guy came out of nowhere." It's like, "No, [ __ ] He was he was eating it like we all ate it, grinding, grinding, grinding until finally he could shine, you know?" So, I can't name one person that like was given the the the free key or what that happens in like acting like, you know, they'll give some [ __ ] a role that's never done [ __ ] and they explode.

But that's that world's [ __ ] anyway. What about like seeing talent where you know all of us have seen a like first time I saw Crosby it's like something's different there. Have you ever seen anyone that you're like oh this kid's unbelievable.

Oh yeah. I mean you see that right when you're young you can when we're all young we kind of know

we don't know who's going to be a star but you know who's like got the [ __ ] You can feel it. You can just feel it. Like when you guys would see someone that you're playing with you go this motherfucker's good.

This fucker's good dude. if they have they got that extra step, you know, like there was guys like that that I you I always kind of knew, you know, like you know, a guy like Bargotsi is massive. Nate always kind of had Nate was always very talented and you could tell he was very smart and he knew where he was going. Sebastian Manoscalo was a guy like even when he was grinding, you knew he had something very special. I you can't really thumb it, but you're like these guys are good. These these guys are undoubtedly good. You know,

what's he making a year? What what are the top? They released it, so I'm not talking out of turn, but I think Nate last year made 80 million. It said 86 million or something.

He's the highest paid actor. Highest paid comedian, excuse me. Well, here's why, though. Swear. No,

no, no. He's clean as a whistle, buddy. He does a matinea show. He'll do like a 4M show because you could bring your you could bring your aunt and your kids to his show. It's all ages. So, he'll do the reason he makes the most money right now is because he is doing sometimes three arena shows cuz he can do a four, six, and nine. You know what I mean? So most guys like like Gillis, you know, it's probably an 18 or older show, maybe 21, but probably 18. And you know, you're doing one arena show a night. Now, could Shane sell more? [ __ ] yeah, he could sell more. Shane could Shane can sell he's doing like three gardens or four gardens back to back to back.

But you know, Nate can play for a wider audience, right? Like Nate can do you you could I can bring my aunt who's, you know, who's like does not the word [ __ ] She's like, "Oh my god." you know, like you can bring her to nature because he's not dirty, you know? So,

to be funny like that, I think. Oh, he he Let me tell you something. He's he's found his way to do it in a way that's I mean, it's proof is in the pudding. The guy is killing it. Like, he's found his audience and he's cruising. So,

who's the Moscalo guy? Yeah, he's an Italian kid. He's from Chicago. Yeah. A lot of guys in Chicago. Chicago puts a monsters.

Deion Cole's one of the funniest [ __ ] guys on planet. Yeah, Chicago for years has always had it's from there. Well, a lot of those guy and a lot of guys too moved to Chicago, right? Like Tina Fey and Will Frell and all they like moved to Chicago to do um Second City, but that's sketch and improv. But standup wise, yeah, standup Chicago's had some phenomenal stand-up comics, but it's a it's always been kind of like a good gut of comedy because Chicago is

it's like it's a good piece of the of the East Coast, even though it's not the East Coast. They think we are out here. These [ __ ] goofballs in California like you go back to the East Coast. I'm like, Chicago is not that it's not on the coast, buddy. But they think water. They're everyone out here is a [ __ ] But Chicago is like the best nugget from the East Coast and from the Midwest. It's like it's a Midwest city. So, hi. How you doing? But it's Chicago, so it's got like a gritty Yeah. It's It's dirty. It's It's We come from gangsters and crooked politicians. So, naturally, the city the city's going to be crooked as [ __ ] I mean, you know, they're sweet people, but you know, they're they're a little [ __ ] shaky. And we got we got great gang violence. We're number one.

Nobody beats us. We're the best, dude. Shy, we're number one. You got a voice for that.

Get shot. Get robbed. Get shot. Dude, I don't wear a watch out in the streets. No. No [ __ ] way. Huh? That's

fake. No, that ain't fake, dude. I can I can see it from here. Don't do that. I see the reference number on that thing.

Um, [ __ ] man. This has been unbelievable. Um, I hope we get to do it again. I hope we get

Well, boys, we're gonna play golf. We know we got [ __ ] by LA, but we're gonna we're gonna get it together. I promise. We're gonna play a little golf together. But who's the match gonna be? Have we decided?

I think you're going to get stuck with me. No, that's not stuck. Or you bring two other guys.

The attitude that we want to have when we get out. Bring three or you play with Biz and play me and Keith.

Is Bobby Lee good? Oh, I want to play with Biz then. I want to play you. Me and Biz get you. How about this? I'll bring I This will be fun. What if I bring one guy as a like rogue and you guys get to decide how many celebrity shots he gets?

I love that. Is that a good idea? I love that. If it's Bobby Lee, I I'll Well, no. We don't want those shots, buddy. That's not going to [ __ ] That

wore jeans at the golf course. He wore jeans with Bryson Desambo. Okay. He called him He called him He called him Bison six times.

I go, "That's not his name." He goes, "I thought that was like a nickname, Bison." I go, "No, his real name is Bryson." He thought like Bison was like a nickname cuz he's a big boy. He goes He goes, "Bison. Bison, come here." And I go, "Dude, stop doing that. Bryson loved it."

Did he? Oh, dude. Bryson ate it up. Cuz Bobby is a fun little toy. He could do whatever he wants and so people are going to he picked him up and he walked him up whole six. He put him on his shoulders.

Yeah. And at some point, Bobby was like, "Put me down." He wouldn't put him down.

All right, we got rollback. Last question. Use code chicklets on rollback.com. 20% off your first purchase through the end of the week. That's c h i l e ts on r h o b- a ck.com. 20% off polos, shorts, hoodies, and more. Uh we've talked about our white whale guest like kind of Joe Thornton right now. We have many others for chicklets. Do you guys have one on Bad Friends?

Oo, that's that's a good question. We just did Louis CK. We put out Louis, which to me is saw he's like the greatest of all time. I mean, he's up there, you know, he's one of them, I should say. There's no one, but like

has he been chilling out lately because of everything that or is he kind of back?

No, he's back. He's dude, he's just he's selling he's on tour doing his thing. I think he's, you know, he put out a special after everything that happened and I think he's he's he's back in the world of like he's put in the work to go, I don't know what else you want me to do. You know, I'm trying to change my life for the better and

come watch me or don't. Yeah. He doesn't even talk about any of that stuff. I mean, that's in that's in his rear view now. But I mean, he's Louisie was to me because I admire him so [ __ ] much. He was phenomenal to have on the show. But I think like man, who would be like the ultimate to get on the show? I mean, we've tried to put in we put it out for Eddie Murphy multiple times cuz I I think he's

he's starting to I think he did something documentary right now. Yeah. I feel like he some of these guys they were so big and they don't mind coming back around at a certain point.

He would be a guy I would kill to have. I don't think he would ever do I don't I don't ever see him on a podcast. I mean, he did Seinfeld's Comedians in Cars, but that's his buddy. You know what I mean?

Like I was But I was also shocked to see Leonardo Caprio do a podcast. Mind you, it was that New Heights one.

Yeah. It was Travis and Yeah. Leo like like those kind of guys like that's no disrespect. I just That's not my white. Mine are like

comedy legends. Yeah. Like I would do Eddie. So like I could have never seen Leo doing a pod but yet

you know or I'd want Gary Buucy. I want someone who's unhinged as [ __ ] You know what I mean? Oh yeah.

You know who tried to get on our show multiple times? He he he kept DMing me was Antonio Brown.

Oh god. Yo, he's like, "Let me on the show. Make it happen." And then sure enough, you know, and we were like, "I don't know if this is a good idea, man. That guy's always caught up in some bullshit." He just got extradited and arrested, right?

Yeah. He's wanted for murder, I believe, or attempted murder. That was real. Oh, yeah. And after it came out, he was in Dubai. I'm like posting and I'm like, "How is this is that not a thing?" They they

You never You never know what's real or not? Damn, he's in one. Oh, he's Dude, if you saw that video him at that resort like flopping his wiener out of the pool, everything I ever heard, I was like, I believe it now. Like whatever the rumors are, he was like in a pool at a at a resort. I don't know where it was, but he's got his penis. He's pretending like it's a whale like bro like breaching the water. He's like and he's smacking. Yeah. He's just going off, man. His kids his kids. Yeah. Yeah. He was at Atlantis in the Bahamas.

He was losing his mind, dude. Oh, buddy. This is awesome. Thank you, boys. Sandbag. It'll be great. Can't wait to do it. You're a funny [ __ ] So, thanks for the tickets last night and my pleasure catching up with you. My pleasure. We'll see you guys soon.

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Thank you very much to the man Andrew Santino. Appreciate him sitting down with us. And the sandbagger has dropped biz and it's humming right now. I believe it's double the numbers through an hour that the Bruins one was. I think I know there's someone someone who has something to do with that. Um, and we want to shout out Pasha and the entire crew that helped out. Posasha took a lot of heat on the Bruins one for his AI usage. Uh, very funny in this one which he shows the snake and puts in that that was not AI, that was a real snake. So Pasha crushes it with those. He's getting better and better. Give him some love everyone. Don't be dogging so hard.

It only takes him 9 months to put these out, too. So like really really be happy.

Show me a better produced golf video on the internet. Well, I guess other than the Internet Invitational, but he puts a little bit of love into these. That's why they take so much longer.

Do you want to defend yourself? Scorsese movie. Posh, do you want to defend yourself as to why these are taking so long to edit?

It's cuz he's playing tummy sticks with his girlfriend. Well, I just want to say that like other pods like Foreplay, they have three dedicated editors for these videos. And meanwhile, I have to produce game notes. We do two pods a week. That's a few hours per day. I'm doing other shoots with Biz. Like

90% of the people listen to this right now working three jobs just to like, you know, no one's listening. Listen to him, Pasha.

Has no idea what goes in on the back end of these things. So I don't talk what goes into it.

And he's and he's being a little [ __ ] on the edits, too. Oh, I can't have this [ __ ] I have a family. I can't have I don't want to lose my dog. Dogs.

Dogs. Posasha, we love you, buddy. I love all the AI [ __ ] you threw in this one. I, you know, you do so much for our pod and our brand, buddy. And uh although people hate your devil takes, they love the way that you edit our night.

Uh, no, I did not. No, that's blood pressure from Yanza's text last night. I told you to take this out.

That's blood pressure. That's blood. Actually, no. The devil's won. The devil's pulled it out.

All right. Appreciate love, boys. Yeah. I love you song. Um, your hands is mad right now.

Yeah, I'm going to punch you in the face through this [ __ ] Why you You're I asked for one thing, dude. I asked for one thing.

But you but you texted him and you didn't ask for the thing. You said the wrong thing. So that was on you.

Uh, I don't kind of clear. I thought Oh, yeah. Read it. No, we don't need to talk about it. Just [ __ ] go to the next segment. Bring in RA. I got to leave.

Look how mad this guy gets. He [ __ ] abused me for 90 minutes, dude. I know a [ __ ] He was You can say whatever you want to me. You can say whatever you want to [ __ ] Paige. I just don't want to be involved in your [ __ ] I have [ __ ] teenage daughters, you idiot.

If him, I don't think he'd be saying a word. It wasn't a word you that's coming out.

Backing off a ball is not the [ __ ] like like what are you talking about? Let's bring in RA's world.

Wait, no, you can't. You can't. Hello everybody. Welcome. Amazing. Sorry. Here on the spit. That's right. Here on the spitting chicklets podcast. Holy [ __ ] Yandelli. I don't think I've ever seen you that mad before.

All right. Well, it's like [ __ ] Have you been listening to the whole show? Yes. What happened back in the day when a kid puked?

Wood chips. Um I mean I am I was in a custody back in the 70s but um yeah you you were a janitor when we started this podcast.

Yeah. Well custodian uh same same thing. I you put sawdust down typically or you just mop it up. And by the way Keith custies make the world run after teachers. They are the most essential part of a school. And I'm not saying that cuz I did it. When you do that job you realize they really make the world go around. Every building every place people clean that [ __ ] up. And it's a a job that, you know, teaches you, you know, some life lessons. And um no regrets that I did it for many years.

I was the one who gave the shout out to the custodians and the teachers. Right. There you go, Biz. Uh we were just talking about Heated Rivalry. Uh I think it was a week or so ago, I called The Hunting Wives the horniest show on TV so far this year. Well, it just got bumped out on number two because of Heated Rivalry. Uh our podcast brothers uh at What Chaos, Pete Blackbird and DJ Bean, they've been pumping the tires on this thing hardcore, no pun intended. Uh so yeah, I gave it a whirl. I like to watch shows and yes, excuse me. It's uh very graphic and whatever. I don't I don't I could watch anything. Nothing phases me. I used to watch Faces of Death as a kid, but it makes Brokeback Mountain look like like a Disney movie.

And uh it it's it's hilarious in one regard, but it also kind of like, you know, gives you like uh some in-depth look at like obviously there's been gay players in the NHL. We don't, you know, unfortunately we haven't had an out player, but you know, uh well, he's not Luke Pro drafted to the NHL,

right? But he but he hasn't been there yet. But same, you know, exactly. He's a he's a he's a great guy, but it kind of presents that side, too. But man, it's [ __ ] naughty as [ __ ] And I'll tell you, man, I wish I had that Russian's ass. I left my ass in the womb. He got the absolute peach emoji biz.

Wow. Okay. So, you Okay. Okay. So, when you show hog, um there's one screenshot of like uh you know, he gets sexed and you can see it briefly, but no, not typically. Uh like I said, it's gra it would be what I I guess you might call soft softcore and cinemax back in the day. Um but yeah, whatever. I mean, whatever. Maybe not. You ever watch like Jean Simmons wife on those baby blue channels? Like she used to do the the softcore like did you ever see that that?

Well, I mean I worked at my uncle's video store in the 80s so I I I was a few levels above that back in the day.

Would you see a guy like uh like the his backside giving it to another guy? Like how much?

No. Yes. It's it's like I say you don't see actual penetration. You don't see actual dong. But you know there's no doubt what's going down in those uh hotel rooms. And you know, it's uh like I said, it's it's probably typically a little more graphic than most shows, but uh I don't know. I I I I think it's pretty good. I I I love how Pete and DJ are playing it up. And I don't know if you saw the uh it was Pride night at the Canadians the other night, and they actually played a trill uh on the jumbotron game. And you know what? Like, shout out to the Canadians because hey, look, man, it's [ __ ] 2025, almost 2026. We all have gay cousins, aunts, uncles relatives friends.

The fact that people still are prejudiced against that is just ridiculous. So like shout out to Montreal just for you know like emphasizing that you know they're just they're just us. They're just other people. They just uh like different stuff in the pizza basically.

You saying I wish I had the Russians ass is hilarious. All right. That's a classic line.

Bro, I got none. I got a [ __ ] my ass [ __ ] spit up all the time. Biz makes fun of me all the time. Got no butt.

Pizza box ass. You should get some of those bands already and work your glutes and that'll help with your L5S1 or your sciatic if you're activating your glutes a little bit more. I think that's going to help take a little bit of the stress away.

Yeah, I mean I could do that but there's no this ass ain't going to blow up anytime soon. I'll tell you that.

Well, it would if you work on it, you do the bottle service girl workouts. Now, people also said that it it it's like a for for people like who aren't into hockey. It's a good entry bar like it's a good entry point who might not know much about hockey who aren't gay and the gay community. No.

Oh, no. Absolutely. There's not many sports have a show like this. Absolutely. And uh my pal Sarah Sarah Civian, she she's been covering as well. And Exactly. It's opened up uh like new fans to hockey cuz you know there's not a lot of like blatantly like gay shows out there. So, you know, obviously that's going to be big in the gay community and yeah, they're getting into hockey and it's so simple. I mean, if if you if you're not familiar with it, I used to tell, you know, people back in the day, it's if you if you like soccer, it's like soccer. You just got to score score a goal and and not be off sides.

It's really that simple. Obviously, there's more intricacies about it, but it's a pretty simple concept of the game. So, hey, the more the marrier, man. That's what we always say here.

I just Googled Jean Simmons wife. It's a Shannon Tweed. Oh, yeah. And then I did Shannon Tweed softcore porn. This is not This is This is not softcore.

She used to do softcore porn already. This is This is hardcore. Like, so yeah. So, like, well, what do you got? [ __ ] you porn on there. Like yeah.

No, I Google image Shannon tweeted softcore porn and the pictures they ain't soft.

Okay. My my mistake. I thought she only did the Skinnmax stuff, but yeah, cuz like people think that uh softcore is actual porn, but it's not. you need to I mean there's an old uh Supreme Court justice who said about porn you know it when you see it but you know if there's no actual penetration if you don't see things going into other things it's technically not porn but apparently I guess she did go the the full monty so got all wet all right uh

spend the rest of the pod here just staring at these images we got move along here and listen uh boys I had one of the the the best days I I ever had not just since the show started, but in my life uh you we had the team shi uh versus the Bruins alumni the other night.

That's awesome. And um I Yeah, that that get up is a little shirt. That's the see-through dress shirt.

I think I think you got I think it's just got to be a plain white shirt, right,

bro? I Yeah, I couldn't [ __ ] find one when I was getting dressed. I'm bent over like Yoda with my sciatica. I needed to get the hell out of here. And I've done it enough times where it's it's almost become like my thing at this point. I suppose you got to keep on moving forward.

You got to keep the jacket on so you can't see that. I No, no, that's uh that's one of the hospitality suites down downstairs at the garden. Yeah, that's you know, aunts aunts, uncles, parents there. And

um boy, before you say anything about the the the the day, so Ryder skated at intermission.

I missed the man. No, no, no, no worries. But what what I was going to say was that he came home and said, "Dad, that was so fun." He said it was packed and all the players on the ice were having the best time. That's what I got a kick out of. I was like, "Oh, what do you mean?" He's like, "They were just laughing the whole time. all the players like they were having so much fun out there which makes sense based on the show and like all the Bruins alumni but for you know a kid who just turned eight to notice like how good of a time that all the players on the ice were having I can't imagine you behind the bench weren't having just as much of a ball to a wit I mean to you know have my name called out in the pia you know Brian Rar McGonagle and to be able to like point to my parents and blow them a kiss and wave it's I mean you guys you know obviously had your names called a zillion times and you would probably get

used to it. I I've never had that and it was great. And the second best part was during warm-ups and you know Big Z uh he's you know he's on the alumni team and he was you know doing a lap and we caught eyes and he skated over to me and said, "Hey, what's up? How you doing?" And it's like, you know, I mean, we've done the show a long time. I never assumed people remember us and and I said, you know, I fang girlled hardcore. I said, "Hey, Z, congrats on the Hall of Fame. So welld deserved and I just want to tell you thank you for what you've done for this team, this city, this region. Uh, we'll never forget it, buddy. And it was it was just awesome just to have that moment. And then like you know, Ray Her Ray Croft, he's such a hot [ __ ] man. Love saying hello.

Drew Z got hurt. No, no, no. He uh he had his I think his kids game he he had a scadattlele off to. So, uh then, you know, uh

someone said it was like someone legit said he might have pulled his back. I was that was my son.

Okay. So, I was at least he left the game. If he hadn't left the game and Roder said that, I' been like, "Buddy."

And and oh, what was kind of funny cuz one one of my buddies on the Shawy team, well, he's he's uh fish on the show. Um Jacob Smith's name is he for whatever reason was trying to say hello to I guess to Z and he gave him like a a little bit of a a slight hook. Z did not take kindly to it. He gave the daggers back to the bench. I'm like, "Bro, what the [ __ ] did you just do?" He's like, "Oh, I just was trying to say hi." And he just, you know, he didn't like it wasn't a penalty type thing, but he he he he throttled him enough to to get Z's [ __ ] daggers over the bench, which is kind of hilarious. But, uh, you like, you know, Colton Noah, Andrew Ference, awesome having a chat with him, Timmy Sweeney, and then and the handshake line after Joey Melon, I say, you know, we've had him on the show before. Gave him a big hug, and it it's just just a such a special day. And, you know, I have such

a small part on the show, guys. Like, you know, a minimal part, but it's it's such a special family. And when you're on the set, whether it's for two days, two months, whatever, it does become a bonding experience. And Terry Ryan, you know, we had him on the show before Shy come, but between our show and Shy, he's become such a a dear friend. And I I love the guy. He's just such a a pure awesome human being. And there was a great piece. I know you mentioned it the other day, uh, an ESPN written by Okeel just about Terry's, you know, voyage.

you know, he got drafted in the first round and things didn't pan out the way he had hoped and he's just never he never liked, you know, woe is me. He just kept chugging along and he's done what he's done. And uh it's great to call him a good a good friend.

He was living out of his car at one point. So like just the fact that he's [ __ ] like turned his life around and everything's going his way and he's he's thriving and shining and other movie opportunities all over the place. It's awesome to see.

And he's very appreciative, too. Oh, he's the best. Great family. so like thankful like to us when chicks cups happen and yeah that's awesome

and you know Morassi was there too always love hanging out with him and just too like another thing like you know we were in the hospitality thing after him you know my dad had been the garden since the the Bruins raised the banner back in 2012 and I think he'd only been one other time when Big Walt was in town uh back late the late 90s but like he's been meet I'm the [ __ ] of the family not my dad but he's been waiting to meet Jared for years and Jared like it wasn't hey how you doing nice to meet you He sat there and talked to him for 15 20 minutes.

Andrew Ference hung out with my dad for like a half hour shooting the breeze. You know, I got to introduce him to Joey Melon and Carrie Fraser. Dad's a huge hockey fan. So, just like I said, man, just a an awesome special day. And I, as I've said this to you before,

I mean this in the best way possible. Canadians are [ __ ] animals, man. When it comes to getting you guys Oh, just having a good time. Having a good time.

Those guys are East Coasters, so they're a different breed. Yeah. Such such a great time. So anyways, we we can move along. I just want to give

No, that's awesome. RA, man. It's good to get out of the house and see buddies and and

you know, get get out of your your regular routine. So [ __ ] good for you, buddy.

Straight out a Compton shirt and wear it as an undershirt. Yeah, we'll have to I'm going to start doing that on on TNT wearing my [ __ ]

But yeah, I'll start. Why are you the only guy who doesn't wear a tie on there?

I don't know. I just don't like wearing ties. Like it like it like grinds my neck and then I get like I don't know

like a choking thing. But do you like you like No, not not particular. Me? Yeah. You guys?

Um I don't mind it. I don't I don't really like business cash. I don't know. No, I just didn't know cuz you were the only guy so I wasn't sure.

I think it did it early on and I'm like oh can I like get away with this? And then they never said nothing so I just did it. And like I just hate like I can't tie a tie properly. I have brutal ties.

Yeah. It's not like you're trying to match them to each thing. Like, [ __ ] that.

Yeah. Yeah. I think the no tie thing, it's gotten a lot more popular, I'd say, in the last 5 10 years than than ever before. You know, I I because I know you like to get choked once in a while, but not not with a tie.

Yep. And one last thing, uh Jared, you know, he does have a new show. He signed a huge deal with with Crave Canada. They're they're sort of like the Hulu of Canada. It's called I Kill the Bear. It's about a family of bear wranglers on a film set. Uh, and he's got some major stars. I'm not going to spoiler alert it, but like it's going to be coming out sometime next year. So, uh, it's just, like I said, it's great to just play in his his little sandbox and he's just the best dude in the world. So, uh, thanks thanks for letting me

How do you watch in the States? Cuz season 5 kicks up kicks out on Christmas Day.

So, when does it eventually come out in the States and like where do you find it? Uh it it hits Crave up in Canada at Christmas Day and then I believe sometime in January it hits Hulu down here. So it hits Canada first, then it hits Hulu down here. So

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's uh great. Like I said, great stuff. Great to be a part of and the the people the Shy family absolute [ __ ] best. So uh moving right along, we've been talking about the NHL, the ice surface. Uh guys, I honestly don't typically side with the IIHF, but they've confirmed the ice surface are going to be smaller. 196.85. 85 ft by 85.3. Uh they've said uh basically they agree that differences are insignificant and should not impact the safety or quality of gameplay. And I I agree with them, man. I you know, obviously played street hockey down the gym down the street, but I don't think 18 in at each side of the rink is that much of a difference. And Keith, I'll ask you, is is it going to affect any guys, any players particularly? Is it a benefit to any guys? Like what's your intake on it? I mean, I it might it I mean, it'll take because these guys are so good. It might take them a shift or two to get used to

it. But I heard Brady and Matthew Kachchuck talking about it. They're like, "We don't give a [ __ ] if we play in somebody's bathtub." You know what I mean? Like, they don't. The players don't care. We're obviously making it more of a big deal than it is. But at the end of the day, they're hockey players. They just want to get on an ice sheet and play. You just hope that it's done and you hope that it can withhel withhold, you know, 50 games in however many days. That that for me I think is the biggest question. It's not it's not the size of the uh the ice.

Yeah, it's more the surface like how is the ice good or bad? It's is it going to hold up with you know so many games you got the women's

at least the NHLPA's main main concern is more more about the ice quality than than so much the the length of the ice. Wait. Do you think there like is a a specific player or type of player who Yeah. This may benefit them in some weird way.

Tom Wilson. Okay. Yeah. That's that's you know that if Tom Wilson's not on the team, Bizzy is going to be waving the American flag throughout the twoe tournament.

They'll just beat this to they'll beat this like a dead horse. You said it, buddy. I I said it in justest on Merrick's podcast. Like you want to keep you want to keep you want to keep beating this?

We can do it. But he's going to be on the team, so it doesn't matter. No, I I agree too. The year he's having and about Willie to great guy like he carved out so much space for himself years ago and the league has gotten so much softer. Like he's basically got his own play pen in front of the net, man. Like I mean that's you know he scores I think what 17 18 goals like he just you know he he like kind of remind me like nearly back in the day. Uh people just don't want to be around you don't want to [ __ ] with you and you got a lot more space to score goals. So uh shout out Willie and yeah like I said I don't think it matters. cuz I think it's the equivalent to like shaving like a a yard and a half off a football field.

To me, it's more about the disrespect towards the fact that like we're coming the NHL is allowing you to use its players to now be one of the more popular. How many people watch the Olympics when the NHL guys weren't there?

How many people are going to watch it because they are you can't you got eight years to build a rink and then you still [ __ ] you're you're you're finishing it days before they show up. which tells me that the like the where the concessions is, the locker rooms, like I'm assuming it's going to be a [ __ ] show and it's not going to be fully fully done. So, and then the quality of the ice. So, if it's all [ __ ] and it kind of turns into a bit of a shitow, I just view it as a slap in the face and it should be a big a big topic of conversation of how that's going to work moving forward because I feel like if you control the best on best and I get these guys want to go to the Olympics and experience the Olympics, they're not even going to be there for the opening and closing ceremonies. Yeah, they'll get to experience like the Olympic Village and stuff like that, but at what cost moving forward is this type of [ __ ] going to

keep happening? That's all I got to say. And maybe it's just an Italy thing because they take those long lunches and they're they're a we know that they're they're a typically a Why are you laughing? Are they not a typically a society that kind of goes at their own pace?

Well, I Irish and Italian, we've had a lovehate thing in Boston for the last hundred years. So that that's all little chuckling. I I love my itals, but they definitely done [ __ ] up getting this this rink built. No doubt.

That's what I mean. It's just a level of respect. It's like come on here. at the best players in the world coming to perform in your country. Pitterpatter, let's get at her.

There we go. Hey, and boys, listen. If I'm a general manager who needs a goalie right now, I would make a a huge player for Jussi SOS. Give up a couple first, a goalie, a first, a prospect, whatever. He's 30. He was peing before Nashville hit the skids here. Right now, he's 1010 and three with a 303 goals against an 896 uh save percentage. He's in the first year of an eight-year deal at 7.74 AAV. He's a great goalie on a bad team. So, he's going to look bad. His numbers are going to look bad. Uh he does have a no move clause. I mean, that just means he has to okay his exit if you wanted to. And I'm not trying to start a rumor here or anything. I just think that Nashville things are bad right now. Uh they're 17th ranked on future prospects via ESPN. And obviously Edmonton is the obvious place that, you know, people would think and they'd have to send money out for money back. But I don't

know, man. I think if I'm a GM, get this guy on a good team. I think we've seen it before. Like Corposal, for example, he was on uh Columbus, you know, not great numbers. Then he went to Ottawa, not great numbers. He comes to Boston, it's a good team, and he's been a like more than competent backup. Definitely a 1B goalie. So, uh again, I don't think it's going to happen. And and Gh reminded me that they had drafted Michigan's freshman goalie. Uh Jack I Ivan Kovichic 58 back in June says he's one of the most underrated goalie prospects. 16-4 this year with a 1 190 927. I don't think he's quite NHL ready yet, but uh I mean it might be good for Nashville building toward the future uh to get some draft picks from him. What say you, Biz?

I Well, they've won five of the last seven, but I I agree with you. I feel like it's a team that just needs to tear it to the ground and uh they just got to hope they can they can get off of some of these contracts like Stammer um in March or so. I don't think Ryan O'Reilly finishes the year there. Uh so yeah, I think it's going to I think it's all going to happen just at what at what price. The money in money out with what SOS makes. So it's going to be very difficult for Edmonton to make that work. I can't believe that they signed him to that deal and then moved Ascarov with like where they're at. And obviously they thought that getting Marsho and Stamp Coast to bring

How's Ascarov been? I I I He got He actually got hurt last night. That's why there was an Ebug in Philly.

Uh 39y old geologist. Yeah, he's a geologist that played at Colgate 20 years ago. But um I think he's been pretty solid. I Let me look up his numbers. No, he's he's been great. He started a little shaky. I because I when I look at the schedule every night, the Bruins are the first team and then the Sharks are the second team I look for. Love watching Celbrini. He's been really uh really good the last couple weeks. He had a tough game the other night, but for for a young goalie, I think he's he's really

over 900 save percentage, 93, 3.09 goals against, but I think his numbers were real bad at the beginning. So maybe it's kind of leveled off.

I I I don't know. His last like eight or nine games, maybe they've been better. And one one other team like I said Edmonton everybody Edmonton goalie that's been the talk for years now but like I I looked at Detroit you know like I I know they they just brought in Gibson last year he's 32 he's got 6.4 million through next year. Uh Talbot's 38 years old 2.5 million unrestricted after this year. I don't know if they want to quit on Gibson this quick. But you know they're they're in the playoff hunt right now. They could like solidify that position for the future. It it's been a bit of an Achilles heel for them the last few years. So I don't know.

It's just another team I thought might be in the mix for them too. So, oh well.

No, no. Yeah, that's I think they got their two guys and they're they're sitting third in the Atlantic. It's like

I don't know if they're going to change that up right now. Yeah, exactly. Like I said, I know I don't like I don't like to stop rumors or whatever, but just a a little hot take I guess I had. Uh the Athletic Surve surveyed 120 players. They did this stuff every year. Uh Biz, they did the most punchable player, but uh who' you know you talked about the show last night. Are you surprised who won it? Nick Cousins?

Uh, no. Nick Cousins got it. I think we've talked about him before. And like, [ __ ] man. He

his job is to go out there and stir it up. And he does a hell of a job doing it. Like, he's said things to guys on the ice that have forced them to go down the tunnel and try to get him in in the opposing locker room. So, this is, you know, he's he's a special breed. It's a hard job to do. Uh, you gain a lot of enemies doing it. and he's still in the NHL and and honestly like the game needs entertainment like that. So yeah, kudos to him for for winning that award. Now I did see that Connor Bard got one vote, right?

Yeah. Yeah, it was a little bit of a surprise. So Nick Cousins ran away with it big time. Who?

It was Mavish who voted for him. I saw I saw it. Oh, we saw the results. All right.

Uh Man was second, who I I thought would have been the the runaway winner. Man 19. But he's too likable now.

You know what it I think it just shows you how much people hate Boston sports that like everybody hated Mafia. All he had to do is go to a team not in Boston and everybody loved the guy.

I don't know though. He won it in Florida. He was their best player at least in the finals. And he's really cut down on all the old [ __ ] Like the It wasn't just being said. He's [ __ ] You see what he did the other day? you trying to crash the [ __ ] time out.

Like, yeah, but I'm talking like the the low hit on Salo or the licking of uh Oh, yeah.

the face. Like, that stuff's kind of gone away. Like going over to the bench trying to watch your play to score a goal with the goalie he pulled.

Did he attack Did he attack Dalene earlier this year? Was that him? Yeah, he ripped his helmet.

Ripped his helmet apart. So, yeah. I guess he hasn't changed that much. He's still got it. He's still got it in him.

Yeah. Yeah. I Yeah. I mean, to list off 10 things he's done in the last 12 months.

Well, it's a badge of honor, you know, Boston fans. I mean, we love to be hated. You know, it's like, you hate us cuz you ain't us. So, yeah, Matty Kachchuck, he was there with 10%. Uh, what was funny was uh Ericson. Um, most of the votes he got were from his own team. If he wasn't on my team, probably Ekka. I I thought that was pretty funny. Uh, then they asked about social media. They asked, "Do you have a burner?" 95% of the guys said, "No." Which surprised me. Have Have any of you guys ever had a burner? I know. I know. Piss never needed one, but

No, but I think for those guys, what a burner means is not like someone that's out there commenting on stuff. It's somebody that has an account that's not public so that they can retweet Twitter.

Yeah. Yeah. Just a lurk. Yeah. It's not like a burner like replying, torturing people like a troll.

Like their buddies, their buddies might even know it's them. Like there's probably I'm curious to know there might be like NHL guys who have burners and like with their buddies and they're like coming at us on on I'm sure it's happened before, right?

Definitely a wit. Well, Yans doesn't have a Twitter. Why me? Y would you get Twitter?

Call like you see. No, you're not going to get it. No. Is it just cuz it's just like too much? It clogs your brain.

I don't know. I feel like I'm past that. Like it'd be like wearing [ __ ] Jenko jeans for me right now, you know? like just

goes, "Those are coming back." I know. That's what I mean. But I can't jump on the bandwagon once everybody everybody's on it. So, no. No. I got I got no interest in it to be honest.

Biz. I I can relate to that as as far as like, "Oh, your friends know who it is." Cuz when you know Boston come out when we they first got the blog. I mean, [ __ ] it was probably 2005, I think. I was going, "Oh, oh, these people comment on the internet, they're losers, blah blah blah." But at the time Boston was very Boston ccentric and you know it was very like a lot of brewing stuff there. So I actually that was the first time I got an internet login thing and I used rare admiral because I think 12 15 guys from college knew that nickname. So I was like a joke proxy. So when my buddies read the site they knew it was me but like nobody else did. Then look of course I end up getting the blog and gig and then this. So the secret was out after that. But yeah it was it was similar like that. Your boys get a chuck letter but not everybody knows who you are. So, um, next up, uh, the Iron Man

streak, and we got a guy who knows a shitload about that. Phil the Thrill, still number one at 1064 after he passed Yu Yandelli. Uh, 40-year-old Brent Burns, he's at 954, the current leader. He's 111 games to pass Kessle after him.

Way down. Nick Suzuki 483. So, Burns is like, I mean, [ __ ] almost 500 games above number 12.

Now, Keith, I want to ask you like, what's the biggest factor in playing that many in a row? Is it luck? Is it just playing luck? Yeah, I mean a little bit of everything. Especi Brent Burns, the fact that he's done that is insane to me. Just the way that he plays. Um, you know, he's a bigger physical guy, blocking more shots, you know, playing PK at least the majority of his career. I don't know if he's still doing it, but he Yeah, like the fact that he's doing it is insane to me. fact that Andrew Coglaniano got to where he did where he should have the record but like

the way that those guys played that that kind of amazes me like me and Phil were a little more uh similar in the way that we played not really

you know didn't play like Brent Burns and Cogano so I I honestly have no clue how he's doing it. you you obviously you know that he's huge into his whatever's in that bag that he's got that he carries around like he you know he's warming up and you getting his right supplements and all that stuff. So yeah, just complete credit to him and I don't see anything that's stopping him.

Uh another thing they asked uh what's the next unbreakable record to fall? They brought up career goals. A lot of guys uh mentioned Austin Matthews 43 goals in 653 games. And I thought this quote was interesting. I don't think it's going to be Matthews like everybody else does. I think it's going to be part of the next this next wave of players. It might be a name we don't know yet, which, you know, I thought that was, you know, like I said, interesting because this the the skill level we talk about all the time these kids, Bad and Celbrini and Carlson, it just keeps getting better and better. So, do you think it would ever get broken with?

I we were saying the other night, I don't think the goal record's going to get broken.

The the point record will never be touched. I guess that doesn't even count anymore. Um, but I was saying with these guys uh in the hotel room in Jersey that the coolest thing for me watching hockey now, and it's always been this way, is like there's some 5-year-old out there right now that in like 15 years we're going to be like, "Oh my god, like this guy's the best we've ever seen." And yes, that gets used like a lot. And when I say it about McDavid, people bring up Crosby's, you know, cups and all that. And I'm not saying he's better than Crosby, but like McDavid has done things and McKinnon now is doing things we've kind of never seen, but there's going to be somebody. And then after that, there's going to be somebody else. And every sport just as as time goes on, like there's players who are better and better and better. And that's the most wild thing is like, yeah, there's some kid, maybe he's not even born yet, who's

going to get to the NHL at 18 years old, and it's going to be just jaw-dropping, shocking stuff that we witness. I think there's no way the gold one gets broken. I think goalies are are are too good now.

And but if you'd have to play even like the top end goal guys like what's who's like the top projected goal scorer for this year? It's probably like in the high 50s.

Oh Nate Doug. Yeah. Right. But is it like is it what is it in the high 50s? Uh he's on pace. So he's got

got to be he's like 60 I think. Okay. So that's like we've seen before where guys have gotten even more than that. So it's not even like that keeps going up like the amount of goals that our guys are getting in one season. You have to play 20 years by the time Obie's done. And now the way that Obi's going this year, like if you watch their games, like he's slow. Like he does not move around much. He's just waiting for his one T's and the other four guys to do all the work. Like does he go to the hard areas? Is he still a clutch goal scorer? Is he still [ __ ] Alexander Ovetchkin? Absolutely. I think he could maybe play one more a year now after this. So, he'll probably get to a,000.

You'd have to play 20 years and get 50 ever every year. I don't think someone is going to be able to stay healthy.

Can't stay healthy. I know. I don't think he's going to get to a thousand either even playing next year.

Okay. Oh, you Okay. Well, yeah. Maybe is he like 90 away? So, say So, he he he has to get What is he away?

Like 9 I think 911 or 912. So say say whatever 85 away, he's got to get he's got to get 30 more this year and then he and he needs 55 next year. It's like

Yeah, that's So he'd maybe play two I would I would even put it past him, man. If he keeps scoring 35 goals and he wants to play hockey, Washington's going to sign him. They're going to pay him. So

yeah, I don't know. But either way, I mean, let's let's say n you have to play 19 years in a row and score 50 every single season.

No, I don't know. I don't think that's happening. Yeah. I I will say two records that I don't think are ever ever going to be broken. Uh the penalty uh penalty minutes for Korea. Tiger Williams 3971 penalty minutes in 962 games. I there's I there's no way anyone's gonna catch that the way the league is now. And Dale Hunter, he was second 3500 3565. He had 1347 penalties in 147 games. Just hilarious numbers. And then for the season, uh, the hammer, Dave Schultz had 472 penalty minutes in 76 games for the Broad Street Bullies back in 7475.

109 total penalties. He's also number four on the list, too. So, I don't know. Those are two records I can't imagine will ever get close to being

the goalending one. Who's the goalie in Toronto that played like 80 games one year back in the day?

Johnny Ba. Johnny B. Yeah. Doesn't he have the record for like most games played consecutively?

It's It's either him or it might be or Jacqu Plant. One of those guys that one of those old old school guys has like the most consecutive games I think or something.

It's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Especially that position. So, uh also, hey, I want to give a a big shout out to Craig Smith. Uh he announced his retirement after,70 regular season and playoff games over 14 seasons with six teams. Uh nationals fourth round pick back in '09. He spent some time here in Boston for a smidge. Uh the fans loved him here. Appreciate his style of play. I don't know. It just it didn't stay here too long, but I think we got to see what kind of play he was. You know, five 20 goal seasons a plus 88. Uh by all accounts, a great guy, a great teammate. So, uh enjoy retirement, brother. Uh you any any of you guys know him at all, Keith? I mean, I know you played at the same time.

I've ran into him a few times. Super nice guy. But what I when I think of him, I think of that empty net he missed in Nashville. Remember when he roofed it out of the stadium? out of this out of the Bridgestone Arena it went out and but yeah amazing career he played hard like worked really hard had a bomb for a shot very competitive uh

probably mostly known for his time in Nashville I'd say right but he was good for the Bruins um yeah a great career getting over a thousand games uh amazing career good for him and best of luck in the next chapter

absolutely we should also shout out uh we should also shout out Luchch Luchch it didn't work out in St. Louis, which sucks, but he's going over to Biz League um in England.

The IHL. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Where's he going? 502 games for Glenn Hall playing consecutive as a goalie.

That's been That's never getting touched. I was even going to say Marty is Marty Brod the wins leader 691.

I believe he did pass Patty. Yeah, but he played in a lot of years with ties, man. So that's not one I would definitely say

that's fair. You'd have to go you'd have to win 35 games every year for 20 years.

[ __ ] I know. But if you get a couple years with 40 win Yeah, I know that that's that's going to be tough. But with him having ties in his career, at least it kind of brings a possibility.

Yeah. One of the I mean the best money goalenders ever. No [ __ ] RA. But yeah, I mean got one game that you got to win him, Washing. So, I think those are the three no-brainers. But, uh, we're going to bring a little old school segment back with, uh, this even predate you. The OG chicklet segment, the first one we ever did. Uh, all right. Hamilton. Oh yeah baby.

Yeah, it's too convoluted to explain the origin of the name, but uh, take a listen to questions. Hockey questions are welcome, but you know, the other stuff is pretty fun. So, I'm going to kick it off with this one. I want to hear what you guys have to say. Uh, this is from, uh, Zack Ah, his 21. They make a spitting chicklets movie. Who do you guys realistically want to portray you? All right, Hamilton. And I had uh

All right, Hamilton. I hate to say this with I had Michael Raaport uh playing you. I know he sucks, but

you guys stinks, but everyone says I look like him. It's not great. It's not What about Scallabbrini?

Biz Johnny Bernthal. Um the dude, he's on the field. I mean, it's definitely, you know, compliment I'd say.

Why? Why? or what yet? No, no. I was waiting to see if Whit says from me. Go ahead.

Uh for myself, uh Ed Harris. Um it's, you know, it's not like he's Paul Newman. I'm like pump my own tires here. But bald, good actor. Whatever. Uh for G. Paul Dano.

Wow. Wow. Paul D would be good for G. That's fair. Gives himself a stallion. He gives me and Grenelli two [ __ ] ugly guys.

No. Well, I mean, Dan was great. Great actor. I was going to say Quinn Hughes, but that that was the obvious one. And then for uh the game notes, boys,

Merles will be played by Chris Pine. Uh I mean, Merles is the the best looking guy of the whole crew. Obviously, he's going to have a good act. And uh Jason Seagull as Kobe Armstrong. I think that would be a good fit. What do you got? Say is Seagull the one in uh in um uh

Forget Sarah Marshall. Wow. Shows his wrench. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Who you think I was going to say for you, Keith? I know. Thanks for uh having me in there. All right. Uh Boba F.

What did you not write Yans in? No, he didn't. Who would you have said Yans? I would. You know what? The guy You ever see the old Nickelodeon show? You can't do that on television. It's old school Canadian show. No, the guy who worked at Bothberers. That's who would play Yand. What about Warren from something?

You just said this. I was going to say the same name. Paul Rudd. I was going to say the same guy cuz when he's got a beard I could see it.

Yeah. What? Wait, what? What' you just say? I uh Warren from Something About Mary. Ah,

dude. I thought you were going to say Baba Buoy, didn't Oh, no. That was Okei who used to call me that.

Yeah. Thanks for Thanks for having me in there. I appreciate it. Custodian stink.

Oh, that was brutal. All right. Uh, let's see here. Another question here. What are your favorite sporting events outside of hockey? And can you share some personal memorable moments? me. The World Series is always a classic, but watching a major upset is awesome stuff. That's from Pucks in Deep. And uh boys, I've said it before, I'm lucky as [ __ ] to to see what I've seen uh o over the years. But uh the Patriots biz are the only Boston team I have not seen win a championship in person because Super Bowls, you know, tough to predict. You don't know who's going to be in it and it's always a designated site. Uh but I did see them uh win the Fog Bowl. Uh what you remember that versus Pittsburgh uh 97 the big uh bond with Terry Glenn and I was at the snowball tuck rule game versus Oakland at 02 couple of uh you know indie division winner games back when they were uh on the run back in the day. I saw the Celts winner the original

garden in ' 86 then a TD Garden in '08 the bees win in Vancouver in 11 the socks in ' 04 as well as uh game seven in the Bronx. I I saw the last ever playoff game at the Garden in 95 and it was the only time I ever saw a wave in the Boston Garden because fans were so desperate to keep the season going, keep the winning going that they literally did a wave and it was so like the opposite of what Boston fans usually do. Uh Clemens's first 20 strikeout game I was there. Uh Jim Rice when he saved a little kid got hit by a fall ball and one of the most underrated Super Bowls.

Super Bowl I suck at Roman numerals. I was I don't know 33 43 whatever it was Pittsburgh in Arizona down in Tampa. Remember that one San Antonio Holmes the tow tapper like two minutes left.

Larry Gerald cost me a bundle man. I had him for MVP. But yeah I was down in Tampa. I just said [ __ ] it. I'm going to I'm going to buy a ticket. I went down game by myself and uh thought one of like I said I think it's one of the most underrated Super Bowls ever.

I thought you were going to say Shores vers the uh Bruins alumni. The way you talked about that game to start off the show was like [ __ ] 72.

Russia USA in Lake Placid. Was the question you had to be there? Yeah. Yeah. Y I've been

Did you give your top 20 favorites or you're number one? I started writing them down. I just was like, "Holy fuck." I I didn't realize it was this many. And like I've seen one, two, three, four, five, seven Stanley Cup glitches when they when they bring the cup out on the ice.

You've never mentioned that before. I can't think of anything like super memorable that I've been at that World Cup France Argentina final when uh Mbappé had the hat-tick and Messi got the win. That I'll never forget watching that. That was amazing. But I wasn't

What about What about you, Biz? Any I was at game seven of the World Series this year. That was like an incredible game. Uh I'm not even a big baseball guy. that whole run and like what it like you know Canada verse USA like big you know Dodgers big money franchise. So that was just super cool and and I hope they can go on another run next year. Uh I don't think I've been there for like anything else significant for a sporting event. You know I I actually did um I think there was a a rugby uh World Cup game uh overseas. It was Samoa Samoa vers England I believe and it was in Wales. The game was taking place there and that was my first time watching rugby live. I'm a big rugby guy. Like I could if a game's on, which they like normally not on my TV anyway, like I'll sit there and just watch it. Those guys are beasts. So if I could go if I could go to like a Rugby Sevens World Championship like with a with a bunch of

the boys, I would go do that. Ruggers, they're animals, too. I college. Absolutely. Seven is like there's a little bit more space out there and there's more scoring so a little bit more entertaining. So I guess I don't know. I'd have to talk to rugby enthusiasts to like say hey which one should we go to?

What? PFT. PFT. He I think him and Wanton went to like a rugby sevens tournament and they took like acid and and shrooms and it was a pretty gnarly experience in in in video.

What about you Keith? What's the biggest thing you you caught in person? probably the Super Bowl when the Patriots beat the uh Fal uh Falcons when they were down.

No way. You were at 28-3. Yeah, 28-3. Yeah. And I was with Sean Thornton and he wanted to leave at halftime and I'm like, "Not happening, dude."

Whoa. Oh, yeah. Didn't uh didn't that one guy, the movie star leave at halftime?

Yeah. Marberg. Maky back. And they wouldn't let him back in either. Good. Yeah. You leave the arena, you're dunzo.

Dunzo. All right, boys. That was fun stuff. Uh, a couple more things here. My classic recommendation uh, for this week. Uh, a show that only had one season back in 1999 called Freaks and Geeks. Uh, Jud Appattow was the creator behind it. And it had all these future stars that like were unknown back then. James Franco, uh, Jason Seagull, we just talked about, Seth Rogan, Linda Cartellini, uh, and Grenelli. Come come on in. Like he told me when we talked about the, uh, outline yesterday that he actually had a classic college that broke down this whole season, right, G?

Uh, yeah. I mean that just goes to describe what Plymouth State Education is. It was called Watching Television 101. We'd go in watch freaks and geeks full one episode every class and then we would just break down the episode. It's uh like I said, it just describes what Plymouth State is. But unbelievable show. So many actors that like launched their career.

Yeah, I know you guys are jocks. You might not relate to like the freaks and geeks aspect of it, but it's a great show. Like I said, only got one season. Didn't get renewed, but uh if you're looking for something to watch, get on that. Uh rounding up here. We got NHL picks tonight. Uh take Tampa Bay uh minus 115. They're playing at Jersey. I think they got their swagger back. They beat up Montreal last night pretty big after a four-game losing streak. Uh and as per usual, put half of your wager on the puck line plus 215. And uh NFL picks, I like Tampa Bay minus 4 1/2 over Atlanta uh tonight as well. Uh they got embarrassed last week. Atlanta is trash.

And this weekend, Detroit, take the five and a half with the Rams. Uh, buy it up to six if you can. So, that's uh that's it, boys. Uh, fun week and all that, wraps it up.

Great. Great job to stay hot and couple clicks for the janitors to the custodies. Absolutely.

Everyone, we'll see you Monday live. Can't wait for it. Love you all. Have a great weekend.

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