Fake It Till You Make It ft. Luc Robitaille - Ep. 602

What this episode is about

In this episode, hosts Ryan and Biz welcome NHL legend Luc Robitaille to discuss the latest happenings in hockey, including team developments and personal anecdotes. They also highlight the benefits of the Discover it card, which offers cash back on various purchases related to sports and entertainment.

Key takeaways

• Joining the Spit Chicks podcast: a bold move, like bringing a spoon to a knife fight.
• Cash back on hockey gear? Discover is here for postgame celebrations, making every win a little sweeter.
• Tarantino's movie list reveals he’s as unpredictable as a hockey puck in a crowd—good luck guessing his top pick!
• Paul Dano's surprise casting? Proof even Hollywood needs a last-minute hero—talk about a plot twist!
• RA's movie critique was stronger than a full hockey body check—better hope Tarantino's not listening!

Who speaks in this episode?

• Ryan Whitney (Host) · 1 h 15 min speaking
• Paul Bissonnette (Host) · 1 h 15 min speaking
• Luc Robitaille (Guest) · 38 min speaking
• RA (Guest) · 19 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 15:00: Discover, There Will Be Blood, Paul Dano, Luke Robitaille
2. 15:00 – 30:00: Tom Wilson, NHL, Dylan Strome
3. 30:00 – 45:00: Brendan Dylan, Amazon
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00: Game Time, Noble, Brendan Dylan
5. 1:30:00 – 1:45:00: Miami
6. 1:45:00 – 2:00:00: Game Time
7. 2:45:00 – 3:00:00: There Will Be Blood, Paul Dano, Amazon
8. 3:00:00 – 3:08:22: Amazon

Notable quotes from "Fake It Till You Make It ft. Luc Robitaille - Ep. 602"

• Welcome everyone to episode 602 of the Spit and Chicklets podcast. We are back a day early, ready to roll with Luke Robbitai. What a legend. But first, we got to talk about…

  about Luke Robitaille · at 0:32

• All said and done. Well, the fact that we've been talking about There Will Be Blood and that's the only movie I watch and I've probably seen it 75 times and then Quinton…

  about There Will Be Blood · at 2:37

• List. And he still put There Will Be Blood at five. And the comments were that if There Will Be Blood wouldn't have had Paul Dano as the priest that it probably would have been…

  about Paul Dano · at 4:09

• Felt like a personal attack not only on Paul Dano, but my favorite movie. So I went Yeah, exactly. I went right at Quinton Tarantino saying that he was hitting the crackpipe.

  about Quentin Tarantino · at 5:04

• I that this isn't in the States. I understand, TV rights, all that. Amazon's just in Canada right now, but for anyone in Canada listening, tune in Amazon Prime tonight. I went through last night, we got a hell of a slate. You know,.

  about Amazon · at 9:10

• Guys as far as what we can. But, that's probably at the top of the list of concerns right now for the NHL and trying to grow the game because this was this is the first time…

  about NHL · at 17:59

• Training, and they are the best shoe for anyone who wants to be a better version of themselves. Plus, Noble is now the official training shoe of the NHL. And our boy Paul Biznasty Bisset.

  about Noble · at 48:47

• Holiday season. If you're in Boston, use Game Time. Go grab some tickets to the Blues in town. Check out that game. Take the guesswork out of buying NHL tickets with Game Time.…

  about Game Time · at 50:27

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Luke Robitaille — Person · Main guest · 2 mentions · first at 0:38
  Primary interview subject; the hosts tee up a long-form conversation with the Hockey Hall of Famer about his career and stories (junior hockey, Gretzky, early LA Kings years).
• Ryan Whitney — Person · Co-host (referenced by name) · 1 mention · first at 0:01
  Referenced as part of the hosting group (“me and Ryan…”) and in a product mention (“Pink Whitney”). He’s part of the show’s on-air dynamic even when not speaking in every snippet.
  I brought it toward the Coyotes and I asked him if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicks podcast full time.
• Quentin Tarantino — Person · Referenced public figure (director) being debated/criticized · 5 mentions
  Central to the movie-discussion tangent: his “top 20” list and his harsh comments about Paul Dano’s performance in *There Will Be Blood* trigger debate and criticism from the hosts.
• Paul Dano — Person · Referenced actor (subject of criticism/defense) · 5 mentions · first at 4:13
  Discussed as the actor Tarantino attacked for his role in *There Will Be Blood*; hosts defend Dano’s performance and frame Tarantino’s remarks as personal.
• Brendan Dylan — Person · Referenced NHL player (likely Brendan Dillon; transcript variant) · 3 mentions · first at 43:55
  Discussed in an NHL incident: his 1000th game and an on-ice altercation leading to injury concerns; teammates’ response used as an example of team chemistry.
  You figure that out and then you ask questions later rather than eating one on the jaw. So, sucks to see Dylan in his thousandth game go down the tunnel.
• Tom Wilson — Person · Referenced NHL player (example in Olympics/ice-size discussion) · 2 mentions · first at 26:26
  Used as the archetype of a punishing forechecker who benefits from reduced ice dimensions; discussed as a potential Team Canada Olympic roster fit and physicality risk.
  Olympics. Is there a person in the league as a defenseman, Keith, that you would not want to give four more feet on the for check to then Tom Wilson?
• Dylan Strome — Person · Referenced NHL player · 1 mention · first at 25:13
  Mentioned as a “castaway” player revitalized in Washington, used to illustrate the Capitals’ roster construction and coaching impact.
  Play is speaking for itself, I think he deser deserves a very strong consideration. Dylan Stro, another guy who was a castaway who ended up going over to Chicago. They didn't…

Companies & orgs

• NHL — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at 0:47
  The National Hockey League is the primary league discussed throughout the podcast, with mentions of teams, players, and events.
• Amazon — Company · Business focus · 4 mentions · first at 9:13
  Amazon is mentioned in the context of broadcasting NHL games in Canada.

Places & events

• Miami — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at 1:32:21
  Miami is mentioned as the location for the NHL Winter Classic in 2026.
  Cashback on team gear, cash back on tickets, cash back on French fries, etc., etc. The Discovery NHL Winter Classic is taking place January 2nd, 2026 in Miami. Rangers at…

Media & podcasts

• There Will Be Blood — Media · Core topic · 5 mentions · first at 2:27
  The movie is discussed in depth, including critiques of its actors and its ranking in a list by Quentin Tarantino.

Sponsors

• Discover — Company · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at 0:43
  Discover is the official credit card sponsor of the NHL and is heavily promoted during the podcast.
  A day early, ready to roll with Luke Robbitai. What a legend. But first, we got to talk about Discover. This episode is brought to you by Discover, sponsored by Discover, the…
• Noble — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 48:30
  Noble is promoted as the official training shoe of the NHL and offers a discount to listeners.
• Game Time — Company · Sponsor · 5 mentions · first at 49:38
  Game Time is promoted as an app for purchasing NHL tickets with a discount code for listeners.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:01 Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle. That is Basel Sports. I uh brought it toward the Coyotes and I asked him if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicks podcast full time.

0:13 Ryan Whitney got a pink Whitney out there now. Bagger. Get that on camera. Yandle the song man is a full-time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris B. Whoa. We're buzzing right now. Honk.

0:32 Welcome everyone to episode 602 of the Spit and Chicklets podcast. We are back a day early, ready to roll with Luke Robbitai. What a legend. But first, we got to talk about Discover. This episode is brought to you by Discover, sponsored by Discover, the official credit card of the National Hockey League. No matter if your team wins or loses, Discover is there for you with cash back on all of your postgame purchases. With the Discover it card, you can earn cash back on every purchase. So, celebratory wings just got even tastier. Learn more at discover.com/creditard.

1:05 Cashback on team gear, cash back on tickets, cash back on French fries, etc., etc. The Discovery NHL Winter Classic is taking place January 2nd, 2026 in Miami. Rangers at Panthers. Tune in to TNT and Biz. Get cash back on every purchase with the Discover it card. Learn more at discover.com/creditard read.

1:28 Yeah, guys, I I can read. I can read. I can read sometimes. What's going on, Biz? You've been an excellent reader lately.

1:36 That's true. Usually when I'm reading about dick pills, I just all of a sudden turn into a reading savant, you know?

1:41 No way. No way. Yeah, that makes total sense. You're a dick guy. Well, I do the row ads. Have I done any any other ads than the row ads?

1:48 I don't know. I don't know. You know better than me to those? Yeah. The the ads or the pills didn't

1:56 or just dick. Oh, no. Or your own your own. Your own. Okay. Okay. Okay. Pause. Pause.

2:03 So, um, we have uh we have 95 minutes with Luke Robbitai. I I know I know we're pumping this up, but just please everyone, we even wanted to drop this episode Thursday because it gives you a little extra time to listen to him before we're back at back with you on Monday. a comedian, um, a Hall of Famer, a legendary career, and an awesome storyteller. We got RA's World. Apparently, RA is very fired up to talk about your, uh, There Will Be Blood video. I got a kick out of that. It was I saw it was 6 minutes, and I I was like, I don't I don't want it to end. I just wanted you to keep going. I tweeted, "You may be a movie critic when all said and done." Well, I mean, the fact that we've been talking about There Will Be Blood and that's the only movie I watch and I've probably seen it 75 times and then Quinton Tarantino and Most of you who are listening right now have probably been online and see what

2:52 the uproar is. I think it was the most viral thing that happened uh on Wednesday or no uh Tuesday cuz you're going to be listening to this two days separated. But what was it? So, he came out with his very rude top 20 list of movies of the 21st century. It was a very odd list. Um, like kind of like all over the place in a sense of genres and and uh and and what his favorites were. I thought he said Toy Story at four. It was actually he had to Toy Story 3 as his second favorite movie of the 21st century. So, you think a guy like Quinton Tarantino would be maybe a little bit like

3:27 Well, he directed Toy Story. Oh, no. Okay. Well, that makes a lot of sense. He had his his number one is Blackhawk Down. Now, I saw it and I saw it one time and all I remember from it is like it was very intense and loud the entire time. Like there was never a break from just like gunshots and chas.

3:49 There was though cuz it's one of my favorite scenes in Blackhawk Down. He's coming at you.

3:53 No, no, no. But but it was a long movie, so it was just a lot of noise for the full I think it was o well over two hours, right? The the but

4:03 the the biggest uh that that was that was the list right there. So if you're watching online, you could see the full list. And he still put There Will Be Blood at five. And the comments were that if There Will Be Blood wouldn't have had Paul Dano um as the priest that it probably would have been ranked first in the 21st century. and he went at Paul Dano saying how he was like it was a brutal performance. He overacted. He was quote unquote weak sauce. Uh and that it ruin essentially ruined the movie where a little fun fact for for those of you who don't know Paul do he wasn't even scheduled to play the priest and they were filming the movie for three weeks and then I don't know who was playing the priest but they were like ah this ain't this ain't it and this ain't the guy. So Paul Dano had two days notice and then stepped in in that role where I thought he was excellent. Like call him above average, but it definitely didn't

5:01 ruin the movie. So I just thought it felt like a personal attack not only on Paul Dano, but my favorite movie. So I went Yeah, exactly. I went right at Quinton Tarantino saying that he was hitting the crackpipe.

5:14 Yeah. And I'm interested to hear what RA's thoughts cuz he's the movie guy now. You saw the movie. What did you think of Paul Dano in it? I thought he was great. The worst part of the quotes was I think he he at the end said he's the worst actor in the SAG, which is I think Screen Actors Guild SOG, I guess you call. Just it seems like it's there's something personal between those two going on.

5:37 Somebody a bunch of tweets were legit like somebody must he must have plowed his mom or something. Yes. Or or or or his wife or something something personal. Uh uh Quinton Tarantino is known to have a foot fetish.

5:49 So people were saying maybe he didn't show him his feet when he asked for a picture or to see them live in the flesh. I don't know what his personal vendetta is against him, but uh definitely um uh an off-the cuff comment that I I didn't appreciate.

6:04 Yeah, I thought that kid was good in that movie. He's he's like one of those actors that like you think like, oh my god, is he this weird? Like is this just how he is? Like was he in uh he was in Batman, right? Like that's the freak. He was the Riddler. Yeah. Yeah. Like just like you'd think that that's him. So I thought he did a good job in that movie.

6:22 Yes. He played But so the one of the other things was is is is Tarantino said that it should have been a two-hander was the comment where that's a movie like we talked about the other day, Heat, where you have two main guys going at it and they and they both dominate the screen. But that to me wasn't what he was supposed to provide. He was this kind of this uh the basically Daniel D. Lewis in it. Daniel Plain View uh the oil tycoon. He was this [ __ ] and he was this naive priest trying to be like basically be a poser where he would give these sermons where he would just be like uh you know like like screaming like you see in these clips online of these priests who have Bentleys who are trying to praise the like the to spread your wealth, right? So

7:05 you're worth 400 million. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're selling out the Dallas Cowboys stadium to [ __ ]

7:11 Yeah. Who's the Who's the one guy where they they had all the floods in Texas and he built this big mega church and he didn't want anybody staying in it while they were they were out of their homes and stuff. It's like that's literally what the money's for, buddy. So, I don't know. I just thought it was a it was a bizarre way to start the week and it just so happens it's my favorite movie all time and and Quinton Tarantino went below the belt on me. There's two things in two things in this life that you don't come after. It's Houston's and it's [ __ ] There will be blood. And whoever is in the way is going to get these hands. So for the rest of you out there, anything else is on like me and Whit have chirped you up and down like since we've known you.

7:51 Those are two things we know not to bring up and I will never ever bring those up.

7:55 I ain't mention it. Although it is crazy that Houston's didn't give a salad named after you. I still will stand by that salad. But that Yeah, the toss salad. Exactly. With with extra extra mayo on it. But it's uh it that's Cisco and Beasird right there. That's just like you that's that's just you just ripping up movies and ripping on directors who come at you know your movie. That that's a good call by Keith.

8:18 I still said though I believe that Quinton Tarantino, even if you're you're uh you're a big-time movie head, he's probably in the top 10 all time as far as directors with his catalog of movies. uh the uniqueness of them and the and the and and the plots and just the way that he's able to to get all the best actors in them. Uh and then but you know I I I would even personally and have him in my Mount Rushmore. So it's nothing against him personally. It's just more of his his ignorant comments towards Paul Danel.

8:47 R is probably trying to rip through his computer screen to get on this Zoom right now. Like

8:52 maybe he agrees with Terrence. Well, we we'll get into that later. R's world, you know, that's what whatever he wants to talk about. We're in We're living in his world. That's right. In that segment. Um, so tonight everyone, us three will be in studio together with Andy Petrillo and we'll be going coast to coast. Big time bummer for Keith and I that this isn't in the States. I understand, you know, TV rights, all that. Amazon's just in Canada right now, but for anyone in Canada listening, tune in Amazon Prime tonight. I went through uh last night,

9:22 we got a hell of a slate. You know, Blues Bruins Rangers Centers big game, Penn's Lightning, Predators, Panthers, Avalanche Islanders, Schaefer versus Macar, Maple Leafs, Hurricanes. Leafs are kind of going right now. Wings Blue Jackets, Wild Flames, Kraken Oilers, godamn Edmonton. And that Walstat [ __ ] guy is just killing me. But and then Black

9:43 have four, what does he have? Four shutouts now in his last six games. And I think he's eight and two in his last 10 games. The Wild are a complete wagon. It kind of brings us into to last or Tuesday night's games. A great slate. Also, um I think the big takeaway at the end, you know, you wake up in the morning. What were the big things that happened? That bad goal.

10:05 I mean, oh my god, which one? I I know the one that actually counts in the stats. The shootout one might have been even dirtier. And apparently skating by the Vegas bench after guys were like, "That was unreal cuz like somebody saw him say thanks to the bench." Yeah,

10:20 sometimes just dip your cap there. Fine, son. Good job. You just opened up the wickets and slid it right through the five hole. But the shot, man. And it was on Shay Diodor. This is a a worldclass defenseman. A guy who could skate almost as well as any Dman in the league. He gets him to pivot, cuts back in, and that release and the way he shoots the puck bar down from that far out. It was it was a thing of beauty. I couldn't stay up for that game. I passed out after midway through the second. And then I get up, I see that. I'm like, are you kidding me? This guy and his skill level and what he's doing within all the noise about the Olympics. It's not just not slowing him down, it's actually making him elevate his game. So, incredible goal from there. I didn't know if there was anything from uh Tuesday night's games that stood out to you Biz personally.

11:09 Uh well, I mean, the Le obviously the Leafs winning South Florida was huge. Uh you know, the

11:16 congrats. They beat the the Charlotte checkers. No. Hey, listen, man. Wins a win. [ __ ] Leafs need it bad. Uh the the probably the trolling from Marshaw, which it felt like trolling unless Did you guys sense some sincerity in his voice?

11:30 I only read it. Did you see the video of it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I felt like he kind of had a few smirks in there. Kind of like when you do and your lip starts quivering and drives me up the [ __ ] wall. I don't I the lip quiver sometimes just because I'm like so excited listening to the next point that's going to come out of your mouth. It's it's not necessarily trolling. It's just like oh my god like we have a legit movie critic on the pod talking about hockey. This is a gift from God. So

11:58 you're a f you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] What? I'm serious. I love that. You're being Oh wait, are are you being as sincere as Brad Marshaw right now?

12:06 I'm being more sincere. If you're saying he's trolling, there's no trolling me right now. I feel like he's I feel like he's trolling and trying to stir things up. Uh but going back to the Bard like

12:17 I feel like like coming into the year I don't think any of of us had him on the Olympic team, right? Would you would you agree?

12:23 No. Right. Yep. And with every game that's going gone on like it's just more and more confidence where you feel like, okay, wow, we're seeing the best of Oh my god, he's got another Oh my god, he's got another level. and he's just he's just clawing at that confidence and and with every game I see him play, I'm like, damn, I think that he's going to be starting the tournament on the wing with, you know, Crosby or McDavid at this point.

12:48 Like, you can't you really can't deny his skill and the way that he's moving out there. And I know it's weird to say like some people might be [ __ ] screaming at their at their radios or or at their YouTube channel right now at the fact that I have like, do you have him playing starting the tournament on the wing now? At this point,

13:04 I think he went from penciled in in the beginning of the year and now it's set in stone. He's on the team like what he's doing this year, like you said, with the pressure with the pressure of being a young guy trying to make the team going to be the next face of the uh you know, Canada hockey movement. I guess him and and Mlin Cerbrini, but I I think 100% it's not even a question anymore whether you think he's going to be on the team or not. It's what you said. What line is he going to be on?

13:30 Yeah. I just I I can't see him starting as like a third or fourth line center. Can you?

13:36 Well, look at the line. So, you got the top four guaranteed of the top six forwards. We got McKinnon, Crosby, McDavid, Reinhardt. Right after that, like I actually think Crosby, Reinhardt, Marshawn is just such a sick line. And Marawn is the one guy on Florida. Well, Reinhardt as well, but like he he's locked in like what he's done last year in the cup final. last year in that tournament like he's there then I mean if you're looking at McDavid and McKinnon playing with Celibbrini and Baddard or figuring out one of the guys fitting in there it makes sense it really does now I think there's some serious question marks they're like good question marks for Canada you just you're so deep you have so many options but I wonder if we're going to be surprised at the amount of guys that aren't playing a big role in February in Italy that were in February in Boston last year

14:28 you mean you mean in North America Okay, I know. Apparently, there's like legit rumors that this might happen and you said it, Biz, you're like the new Merles. It's your idea. You thought of it. Just bring this thing over here. We'll sell out every barn they play it in.

14:43 So, it sucks. So, I guess we we'll dive a little deeper into this. So, we've heard rumblings that they've went over there to check out the rink and it's just not in good shape. We talked about it even last podcast.

14:54 The rink is getting put down today, the ice. Yeah, but keep in mind it's it's 4 feet shorter as far as length. So, they [ __ ] up the length. I don't know how you do that.

15:04 So, they they're going to take away the neutral zone. So, just the neutral zone be shorter. It's the same as was it who did Nashville play? Uh Nashville Pittsburgh. You you won't even notice it. Like they did it in that Nashville Pittsburgh game. It just shortens the neutral zone a little bit. So, it does I don't think that's a big issue. The thing that would suck for the players is they don't get the experience of the Olympics and to be in the Olympic village and take all that in. I think for the integrity of of the the sport and the game and also given how much North America and and how much the growth of hockey is happening in the States right now, I think that it would be a blessing in disguise if they ended up moving the hockey component of the Olympics over to North America. Worry about growing it over here. uh you know and and and obviously I don't know what's going to happen with the money. I

15:51 would assume that the gate has to end up going to the IOC cuz they're like [ __ ] as corrupt as they come and they're not going to be able to to like take the criticism of of [ __ ] this whole thing up and the fact that this rink wasn't built cuz they're taking 4hour espresso breaks in the afternoon. Uh, but I just think that it would be sick to see it over here and then it's in our time zone where we're going at normal times, whether it's afternoon games or at night. Snap it around to Boston, uh, Minnesota. Um, I think that uh, Col, cuz you got to think of rinks that wouldn't be occupied

16:26 um, in advance, like knowing in advance, cuz I would imagine like MSG, like that's for sure got to be booked up.

16:32 Uh, maybe even in Boston, like Minnesota, not sure. I feel like that's a place that deserves to watch Olympic hockey uh Edmonton Toronto Montreal. I I just think that they should seriously consider thinking about shifting it over here. And I know it would suck for the players to not get that true experience, but in fact, minus all the travel and all the [ __ ] they might want that. What do you guys think about doing it over here? Do you think it takes away from the Olympics?

16:57 No. I mean, you don't get to go to the opening or closing ceremonies anyway. Yeah, you miss the village, but the village sounds like it's a section 8 housing dump. And you don't even really get to go to like other events. You're you're you're not really I mean maybe we got to see like a little bit here or there, but I just think at this point the guys wouldn't even care. Saving the travel over, saving the time change, saving all that. you're in North America and in terms of the gate like IOC, yeah, they definitely get something, but how many seats are in this arena that's still being built anyways? There's no way 18,000. So, it's like the atmosphere would be even better.

17:40 And and uh um G was chiming in in the in the group text about Lugano Sw is that that's in Switzerland, right?

17:47 Yes. So, I heard that's a definite no. Okay. So, just even hearing that like what are the other options? So, this is becoming more and more of a serious issue. We'll get as much information behind the scenes and bring it to you guys as far as what we can. But, that's probably at the top of the list of concerns right now for the NHL and trying to grow the game because this was this is the first time they're back in I don't know how many years. The first time that McDavid um is going to be playing best on best. Same with Mar right too.

18:15 Mhm. I don't think Macar has either. I mean, like McKinnon hasn't either. No, this will be 12 years. It was 2014 in Russia

18:25 and then here we go. We're having a [ __ ] rink issue. So So I heard I heard I think the biggest issue too is like they're going to supposedly have the ice down January 5th I think and get some skating on it, whatever. But the biggest issue I think could be if you know those days that you have three games on like that first day where there's three games on that same sheet with you know these big massive guys skating on it like it it takes the tear on it. So you could be looking at like a sheet of ice like remember playing an afternoon game in the AHL after or a late game after a NBA game and there's like cones on the ice to not skate by. So I think that would be something to worry about. So even having to pivot halfway through the the tournament because the ice is so shitty.

19:13 It's like why not just start it over here? Yeah. It's like it's like you can't even truly test it to what it's going to be going through during the Olympics. I I agree with you. I I don't even think they should risk it. I think they should think of an alternative plan right now. And and some people might say, well, keep it at least closer, like maybe they can go to to Sweden or or Finland or somewhere overseas. I just think what do you think? 80 to 85% of the players that are going to be playing in the Olympics are playing in the National Hockey League.

19:40 Yeah, I think it's more. Well, because of you're saying because of Switzerland.

19:44 Yeah, there's some countries where it's like half if not more than more than half the players in the team.

19:48 He's saying uh Turin where they had the ' 06 games that Sweden won the gold. It's an hour and a half from Milan. So, that makes a lot of sense to me. Now, if this rink they're building right now, like, do we bring over does the NHL bring over the the ice crew? No.

20:06 Is it like Mario and Luigi out there on the Zamboni that they've done it for like a couple months? Like,

20:12 because that honestly they It's the same It's the same people that did the rank in Torino, but it's not it's not NHL guys. It's not cuz I mean, think of those the outdoor games they put up in what a couple months, two months. Uh, even quicker, I think.

20:28 Quicker. I mean, obviously that's different. They probably have the compression stuff underneath, but why not bring those guys over? Because what I heard is where it is in Italy right now, there was not like they didn't have water. They didn't have power. It was like a brand new site. Like they they just said, "Okay, let's put a rink here." And then they had to build the infrastructure. So, it's

20:46 FIFA. FIFA and the Olympic Committee is mafia. Those are They're [ __ ] sitting on their mega yachts

20:54 clown. Yeah, they they're very similar to Joel Austin and the rest of that Catholic Christian group

21:00 with the monster houses and the pullatties. G wrote it up there. Joel Austin. Yeah. Here's a church that um I make 45 million a year and built this church. But as this hurricane's ravaging through our town, nobody's allowed in here. But make sure you come back to church and donate in three weeks when you get back into your houses. So the Olympic Committee and FIFA are just scam artists. That's what it is. Upsetting for the NHL. I'm sure that Gary Bman's sitting in his office fuming that we're back. It's finally back. And it it it was a lot of headaches to get back, right? The disagreements with the owners and the players and the league and all this. All right, let's do it. This is great for the game. And now this is the noise coming out. Now, granted, if it all turns out okay, once the game start, that's all we're talking about. That's all we care about. But as of right now, this should not be the story line. It

21:51 should be going through the top six of Canada, US, Sweden, and and then not talking about a rink that's like the bricks are still being put up and they're putting the cutter on the back of the Zamboni like three three hours before the face off of the first game of the

22:05 Don't worry. It's going to get the done. Is it going to get the done? If they need guys to go over there and help out, we should just go. Like, if they need bodies, let's go and do it because we're here to build the game, too.

22:16 We're going to end up drinking wine, eating Italian food. I used to I used to help lay brick.

22:22 Oh, I know you br you you lay brick. That never changed. No, I used to help build houses and well and I used to bring the moder to the guys laying the brick.

22:31 Really? I used to mix help mix it in the in the mixer and then and then put it put it in the pales, dump it in the wheelbarrow and then wheelbarrow it all the way up to the house and then they could they

22:40 I'd love to see what shape those houses are in. I think back then I was making $10 cash an hour.

22:46 Right to Arrow Pastal. Grab a t-shirt. Resell it a couple weeks later. Right to right to [ __ ] uh

22:52 to Malin. Yeah. Right to Aldo for my new dress shoes. So I Demadov now has it. It's been passed around Russians since Bis bought it. I'd love to see if those houses are still standing, man. Like imagine being like built.

23:07 I take pride in my my my helping with brick laying work. You don't think so? They're all singing Christmas carols. The roof collapses. They're like bissing it.

23:18 I wasn't the one putting the brick on the house. I was just helping mix the miter.

23:22 I know, but that might be more important than the actual laying of the brick is the the what built what is making the brick.

23:29 I look Italian and I'm half decent at mixing miter. I'll I'll see you over there. I see. Uh uh the other thing I was going to bring up too, uh I don't know what the expectations were coming into the year. I think a lot of people thought that Washington was going to drop off and that Carberry and crew man I'll tell you like even when they came back on the lease when they were down those two goals. I don't know if you guys caught the video in the locker room and they have all they always have these these locker room videos come out and just like every time Carberry says something the way that the players light up and they have their inside jokes and yeah like like Yeah. like and everybody everybody's like in unison like it's unreal to watch. like that to me is the embodiment of what a team should be like and and the and the chemistry they have and the love for one another and you know it's a

24:16 bunch of uh and think of how many like castaways they ended up picking up like you know he he gets shipped out of Arizona ends up going to Ottawa couldn't settle in there he ends up having a career year last year gets the big ticket and then now I'm pretty sure he's a name that got added to that list of players that could be representing Canada for the Olympics so who would have thought a few years ago after getting I don't want to say

24:40 isn't he American? No, he's not American. He might be duel. He he he I his father was playing

24:47 he was from Florida. Yeah, his father's his father's Canadian. He won a Stanley Cup I believe with the Penguins. Played in Philadelphia and now um they reside in uh is it Boca Raton?

24:59 Yep. In Florida. So, uh, I believe he does have Canadian citizen citizenship and he would represent Canada if he did go to the Olympics, which I mean, if if his play is speaking for itself, I think he deser deserves a very strong consideration. Uh, Dylan Stro, another guy who was a castaway who ended up going over to Chicago. They didn't want him. I don't even think they qualified him. And, uh, I mean, the list goes on of I mean, uh, Logan Thompson, who should be another guy who's on the [ __ ] Olympic team. So it's remarkable what Carberry and crew has done there and I think they deserve a lot of praise for the last few years people saying ah you know they rode the OV goal wave last year end up getting in playoffs and doing damage and this year I think that a lot of people would have thought they would have dropped off especially with the rumors of it being OV's last year and assuming that he would then drop off

25:49 but they are all systems go five wins in a row and uh where do they sit right now in the standings? I believe they're in the top. They're second place in in the Metropolitan. Tied actually they're tied um Carolina's got a few games in hand on them, but tied with 34 points. So, uh remarkable what Carberry's done.

26:08 And we we didn't bring up that with with the uh with the four feet shorter for the Olympic ice for the ice at the Olympics. Is is there a person in the league as a defenseman, Keith,

26:20 that you would not want to give four more feet on the for check to then Tom Wilson?

26:27 Tom Wilson. Oh my god. So, okay. I And I think it might have been um was it Dbor saying or was it maybe Nick Ciprios on his show like Yeah. So, it's shorter so you have less room to get away from four checkers and now we're talking Tom Wilson just killing someone. Now granted, if if you breathe on someone the wrong way in international hockey, you can get like a tournament uh disqualification and you're just immediately banned, but he will throw a hit over there if he's on that team, which I think he should be, that just basically knocks a guy out of the rest of the NHL season and sends Canada buzzing up and down the ice the rest of the game chanting on their like warrior savage for checker on four feet less of ice. So Tom Wilson, I see him on the team.

27:14 100%. But wait, I think it'll be some poor kid from Denmark who like Yeah, I know. I know. I know.

27:19 Just doesn't understand that you got to have your head up no matter what. And there is 0% chance Tom Wilson finishes that tournament.

27:28 That might be a worry, but he's been smarter. He also has 16 goals. It's like this guy's turned into a legit offensive weapon.

27:35 I think he's on a five or six game point streak right now, too. Crazy. Oie had two apples two Tuesday night. I didn't believe in them last year and then this year I was like, "All right, I think the magic of the OV gold chase will end." And I I thought I was right and they've just completely flipped things around. They look awesome. Um, in terms of of uh Olympic news that leads into or Olympic roster questions that leads into current NHL um questions, goending and Jordan Bennington, he got pulled the other night. I don't know if you saw the little exchange

28:07 Patty W moment. He was not happy with getting pulled and he's coming off. He's got his helmet on so you can't read any lips. I didn't see a view of Monty talking back to him, but he was jawing at him. Monty was funny. He was asked about it after he told me that he loves me and I I told him I love you, Jordan. But

28:24 um I don't really know why he was that upset he got pulled. Both goals were pretty weak. They went it one went like far sideight on him from near the boards and the other one was just like an awkward looking kind of off angle. St. Lewis has nothing going on and Monty pulls it um pulls him out of the game. And I don't think that's something that lingers. Now, if he gets pulled quickly again, you could see him like handraan attack his own coach maybe. But I was I was surprised to see when the team's doing that bad, that's probably part of it. The emotions are crazy. Everyone's down in the dumps. Now we're down again in this game at home, I think it was.

29:01 And he's John at his coach. Not good if you're a Blues fan. I think this puts a little bit more oxygen in the fact that he might get dealt. Um I I think that Monty handled that perfectly though. Like that was comedy when he like I read those quotes and oh man that's that's a seasoned vet as a head coach just completely diffusing his situation and getting all the reporters laughing. But uh buddy, this team is has struggled. They've been dealing with injuries. They've just haven't played well. Um, you know, you think that you thought that they would ride that magic after the second half of last season and they look like a shell of themsself. Um, you know, not as physical, just playing with no confidence. So, I don't know. I'm not the goalending expert. I don't think it's has been his best start to the year. Um, do I think that it's affected his Olympic bid? Probably. But I I would imagine if you're Canada, you still just

29:52 bring them even if it's as that third just to just to have him. you know, you got a guy who's comfortable in that room and in that, you know, with the with the boys and and they have confidence in him. So, I don't really know what else to say, but have have you been hearing any any rumors more amplification on a potential trade?

30:10 The only things I've been hearing is the Edmonton stuff, but I honestly think uh when it get comes down to it, St. Louis could be trading a lot more guys than than just Jordan Bennington. Like they they like you said, Whit, uh they look like a shell of themselves. They bring nothing. I I love Robbie Thomas. I think Kyru is a nice player, too. But like the rest of the they they got to step it up there.

30:32 I would not trade Thomas. Yeah. Broberg, Holloway, and Neighbors. That's it. And I was one earlier. That's what

30:42 Snugaroo. I'm sorry. Snug. He's out injured, so he wasn't on my head. Or I'm just making an excuse that I forgot about it.

30:49 Good excuse. Um I I was on the thing like why would you trade Kyu? But I guess at this point like maybe you could get a lot back for him and maybe there's parts of his game that Doug Armstrong's not a fan of. I don't know. I'm just kind of thinking here that the fact he's been in the in the news as a possible trade target that there might be something there. So those five names, those are my safe list. But after that, yeah, let's try to figure this thing out and and try to set uh Alexander Steen up with with something to go go with once he takes over as GM.

31:23 you. Yeah, you just don't want to you don't want to panic trade too, right? Because Kyro is such a valuable asset at at 8 million bucks for how many more years to come. Um, but then again, it kind of reminds me of maybe like a like a Sabres trade where they ended up trading Cousins to Ottawa for like a like a Josh Norris, right? Where you're just trying to you're just trying to get something. You're trying to spark the team in some sort of way. And usually when a big move like that goes down, it's kind of like a an eyebrow raise like, "Oh, [ __ ] Maybe maybe nobody's safe around here and it gets buddy everybody playing to the top of their ability which I don't know if you guys saw Norris's first game back with Buffalo. He looked great and now they got their full roster. So maybe they start getting going here. This is a big We actually got him on TNT tonight against the Flyers who have been playing

32:09 way above their expectation so far this year. Getting great goalending. Zagris having a career year. But now is normally the stretch of time where where Buffalo takes a dump and they put themselves behind the eightball and in in really no possibility of making playoffs. So I'm really interested with a healthy roster and a lot of questions around that core group in Buffalo. What can they do in this next 10 15 game stretch here uh uh before uh or I guess they probably have about 20 before Olympic break.

32:39 I think the biggest hall you'd get just to go back to St. Louis would be Paro. Like imagine

32:46 and and I didn't say Shen but and Shen dude that guy's a warrior Stanley Cup champ like but at the he's you know he's on the back nine of his career I'd say and I think a cup contending team would give up a boatload for him

33:00 right like that is a guy like all right we slide this guy in our third line like our team just got so much better that reeks of like a Florida grabbing him and all that don't even say that I I don't I don't want to hear like Florida I know you're right though. You're right. But um and Buffalo I had a DM from a Buffalo fan. He's like, I don't even want What did he say? Something like teams just want to, you know, make the playoffs that haven't been in the playoffs for so long. I'm not even thinking that. And I'm not even thinking being in the race in March when March starts. Like, if you're still in the race March 1st, like, all right, we got we got a a fantastic final 20 25 games here. He's like, "Just February, when February starts, can we still be in it?"

33:46 So that's where the Sabers, they just want a February 1st. Right now, they're five points out of the of the last wild card spot. I would consider where they're at now, February 1st, still in the race. Now, when you have to leapfrog seven teams, it's a little fake when you see five points considering all the teams above you. But this poor guy, he doesn't even want playoffs. He doesn't even want being in the mix in March, just February. So,

34:09 just a a battle game to get into a wild card spot at home with the GOAT jerseys on. That's all he wants.

34:16 That's that would be special. Like a February 28th afternoon game in Buffalo. Everyone's crippled cuz they haven't even been to sleep because they're such drunks there. And they show up and if they win this game, they're second seed wild card. February 28th. The place would be buzzing.

34:33 Yeah, be buzzing. All right. All right. Well, we do have to mention Monday night prime Monday night hockey. We got to talk about Amazon considering we're going to be on there tonight. That's Lightning Leafs at the Yach Club. Now, Biz, they've got three of the last four. So, it's two teams going in I mean Tampa's going in one direction. The Leafs look like the opposite direction. Now, they're turning around a little bit. So, a big Monday night hockey game in Toronto. Biz. I know that they've looked better. I know that they've won three of four. Lot of questions around Matthews right now. I think he scored a nice goal in Pittsburgh. Um, what are you seeing?

35:06 Like, are you are you as worried as some Leafs fans are? Because a lot of them, at least on Twitter, are like, where did the magic go? Like, what is going on? I saw one Bard stole Matthews release from him. I I'm I'm curious if you're like, "All right, something's off here."

35:22 Yeah, there's been a few moments where he has looked more like himself recently. I think people are concerned about the the injuries piling up and what type of a shape his body's in. There was a few clips even from the game against Florida where you could see where he's got a perfect opportunity where if you're Austin Matthews like that is your scoring zone like every time especially in in the year where he scored 69 goals giggity he was [ __ ] firing that thing no questions asked where he seems to have more of a a pass first mentality which I don't like. Um, they put him on the point on the power play and yeah, Yans is shaking his head right now. Like I they first of all they they end up giving up that short-handed goal when they're up two nothing in that game. And I think as far as what Burubé's postgame comments were is I think that experiment's over. But just weird like you're up two, you're on the

36:16 road. That's a building where you've given up a twogoal lead before to lose complete control of a [ __ ] playoff series less than a year prior. Uh, but I yeah, I I would say that I'm just like the more that people watch him and worry about his body, I guess it gets me in my own head about about how his back's feeling and and where he feels at physically. I mean, he's lugged a lot of miles over the first part of his career. Um, I don't know, man. Like, I I think that right now, don't put him there. let him just focus on his position and worrying about that and and then delegate the the playing defense to [ __ ] defense on the power play despite if your power play might be even struggling a little bit. But yeah, I I could see why people are trying to kick up dust on that. Like what I saw I I saw the clip you're talking about where he wheels like high above the circles and comes down into the slot and whoever

37:08 made the video, it was a random uh person I saw making a video like this is your your your area. This is your Gretzky behind the net and he dishes it over to no one and the guy it's obviously a Leafs fan. He's like, "What is this?" That was the one you're talking about, I think.

37:23 Yes. Yeah, that's kind of the the the main clip where I think people are seeing a little bit too much pass first mentality where it's like, "No, man. You need to be selfish." Uh, you know, you you have one of the nastiest releases the league's ever seen. So that's why the the the injury uh question mark comes in as to why he maybe he's not getting the same velocity or maybe that that torque and the way that he shoots it is putting more strain on on on his body. But I I don't know. I think that the team overall just needs to worry about defending better. Posa sent me the under the hood stats the other day where basically they're second last or last in every statistical category as far as them letting goals in their own net and their Dzone coverage. So, the more that that improves and the more that, you know, Wool and and and uh Stallar's play to their capability, the better they're going to get cuz them putting the puck

38:14 in the back of the net hasn't been the issue so far this year. And as far as more Leaf's concerned, Dakota Joshua got I would say a a fairly deserved PP whack. It's like, hey man, 20 games in here, I think we've been patient enough. Let's see more of that bulldog mentality and and you using your size and being a [ __ ] factor out there. Uh, and then he had ended up having one and one last game. Scott Lton coming back

38:38 huge for the penalty kill. Um, and he's a dog and then he ended up getting his first the other night. So things are starting to turn around. Uh, regardless if Brad Marshaw was was trolling or not, I do think that they are going to end up in a playoff spot and that the the the rebuild quotes and the [ __ ] trade this guy, trade that guy, let's bash Morgan Riley here, let's bash this guy there. That's just got to stop. Let's simmer down here 30 games into the year. Let's just get the ship writed and [ __ ] and get ourselves inside the playoffs. I I mean, let's throw it over to Yans. Like, how about [ __ ] Florida here?

39:10 That's what I was just I was just going there. Last place in the Eastern Conference, Keith. And you could say we got no Kachchuck, we got no Bararkov, a bunch of injuries, but

39:20 you're not worried in the least. No. Last I saw that Matthew is skating. I saw that last night on the I thought it was on the broadcast, but if he's skating and he's back soon would be unbelievable. Uh because obviously when you're missing guys like him and Barky, it it affects everybody else. You're not seeing the same Reinhardt that you usually see. You're not seeing the same Bennett that you usually see just cuz those guys are so good at driving lines and, you know, getting everybody in the mix. But and even like Benny, like when Benny's at his best, he's running around killing people like but at the Matthew's doing the same [ __ ] Like he feeds off of that type of energy. Obviously the goal scoring and stuff like hurts not having them out there. But I I honestly think I I expected a little more from the from the younger guys like the Samuskevich. I thought he was going to commit. I don't know if these guys are

40:08 just, you know, a little bit more comfy, not fighting for a job cuz, you know, their their slots are uh are set for the season cuz they have so many injuries. But if I was on that team, I'd be putting a little blame on the younger guys needing to step up. But Marchie, like he's been incredible. Like playing with Noah, he lost uh Luca Ryan, one of his linemates. He's not even playing right now, too. So, it's like what he's done. if there was any questions in the beginning of year if he was too old to be on the Olympic teams, he's going to be there like you said earlier with uh Bob too. Bob hasn't been great. He hasn't been himself like you you notice things when when Bob and from playing with him like when he's tracking pucks like there's little things that I can see in his game where it's like okay this I think I said it to you one warm-ups with when we were at the game like

40:54 you're screwed. Yeah. Like you're screwed. like the way that he feels the puck and sees it, I'm like, "Okay, this guy's feeling it." And I haven't seen that this year so far from him. He's given up a couple. It seems like a a a weak goal or a couple weak goals every game. Um it but honestly, it's one of those things like you can't judge them yet till Barky and Matthew are back. Uh I think the Kulakov injury too is a huge miss for them too. Like people aren't talking about that. He just he steadies that blue line. and he he plays his role. He doesn't ask for more, doesn't ask for less, does everything the right way. Uh so it's it's just one of those things right now.

41:33 The injuries are are brutal to to even judge them on. But if if I was on that team, I'd be wanting a little more from from the younger guys who are who are given these minutes right now, right? Cuz at the end of the day, when those guys come back, you're not getting those minutes. And

41:47 yeah, and I think right now they might be they're not ready for those minutes. It's like that's just not they're playing in a role that they're they're not ready for or maybe will never be ready for. I don't know. But it is at some point like three straight cup finals, dude, for a lot of those guys. Like they are gassed. They're injured. I even couldn't believe Tuesday night there was a loose puck race. And now Nick Robertson can motor, but he beat Forsling, outmuscled Forsling, and it ended up being Lton's first goal of the year. It was like seeing Duncan Keith like lose a race to a loose puck and then kind of get out musled. just never see it out of Forsling. So, he's probably playing even more than they want him to. Even being the best in shape V2 guy in the world, it's like it's just wearing down on guys. So, at some point,

42:33 yeah, there's a lot of hockey left. But that much hockey in the past 3 years and this this amount of injuries, like if they went on to miss the playoffs, it's not after what I've seen so far, it wouldn't be like that shocking. And this is from a group of guys who said they're just going to win it again this year.

42:47 They're decimated right now. Um actually you see the the they posted uh to their social accounts um uh one of their workers was asking him on the way out to the ice about 67 and Brad Mar Yeah. Brad Marshaw said if you say that in his household you get grounded.

43:06 Wow. Yeah. Yeah. People are coming at me. They're they're they're showing the meme of like Sandler's buddy like how you doing kids with the backwards hat like me being an old guy enjoying 67. Sorry for enjoying something.

43:19 Just haters. Sorry for enjoying something, guys. Sorry for laughing my way through life, you [ __ ] miserable pricks. [ __ ] you. Six.

43:28 Six. No, you [ __ ] loser. You're an old man. Act your age. Shut up. I [ __ ] do a podcast and wear a hoodie and a hat every day, you [ __ ]

43:36 Yeah, [ __ ] you. Um Um talking about injuries injuries, I was going to uh mention um Oh god, Tyler Sean. I think yeah, he's out for a long period of time here. ACL. Um just like the in the injuries just keep piling up. Uh the other one too, we talked about his thousandth game, Brendan Dylan. I don't know if you guys caught this situation when he played in his thousandth game against Columbus. There was a netfront battle between him and Veronov. A big guy, big big boy

44:06 most. And you know, Dylan just trying to protect the net front. It looked like he kind of threw one with his glove on and I think Veronov took that as a signal like, "Oh, I might be going." And then Veronov, you know, sometimes at the end of your shift too, things are happening a lot faster and a lot more intense than they might actually be. And he drops the mitts and then he just starts swinging. And when a guy with that much length and size gets a great hold of you. Oh, we got Pasha popping on here. Was he coming to talk about that Brendan Dylan thing?

44:36 What are you doing there, Posasha? I got to show I got I got something to say to Pasha.

44:40 Oh, I don't It just threw me in there. But since when do you come on unannounced?

44:44 Yeah. Jesus. I I don't know. I just popped me in on its own. Yeah. Well, anyways, so then Veronov got that good grip and then the minute he starts throwing and then people had an issue with the way that he threw him down to the ice. I just think this is a like a a tough result to what Baronov thought was going to be a fight. Dylan's just playing hard in the net front. And from a guy with experience, like when you're in those netfront battles at the end of your shift, sometimes it's just like you you you [ __ ] drop them and you figure that out and then you ask questions later rather than eating one on the jaw. So, sucks to see Dylan in his thousandth game go down the tunnel.

45:20 He came back to try to finish but then didn't end up coming back out for the third. So, just wanted to mention that one.

45:26 And he's had neck surgery. Gh. Biz and all the all the fans listening. If you're wondering if a guy on your team that you root for, if his teammates like him, go and watch that what happened after Dylan uh got hit cuz everybody on that team, you can just tell that they loved that guy. Every guy was running someone. Everyone was trying to fight someone. I absolutely and I I saw some quotes from uh Sheldon Keefe, too. He was pissed the [ __ ] off. Like that's how you know if your teammates love you when they act like that after.

45:57 And I loved every second out of your New Jersey Devils. Posasha, not to drag the shitag Rangers into the bus, but did you see what Mike Rup posted after that? Basically being like, "Where was this with the Rangers when Fox got hit and hurt?" He goes, "We saw no pulse out of them. They need to show a response like the Devils did." So, I digress.

46:16 You're unbelievable. That's where you went. Now, they play again. You want to chirp JT Miller about posh?

46:21 Oh, did you see his defensive play last night? All right. They won. They beat they beat one of the best teams in the league.

46:27 They're playing. It was It was It was a tie game with three minutes for eight minutes left and he had one of the worst turnovers I've seen and then didn't back turnovers. Not defensive hate.

46:37 Play a haters. These jackets made from your mother's pubic hair. You said you had a question for me. What?

46:42 Silky Johnson. [ __ ] nasty. So, there was a tweet out that said, "I bet you Matthew Olivier cannot wait until December 15th or whatever they play again." Columbus 31st.

46:57 New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve. And uh I can I I bet you he can't wait for this rematch. Hopefully, he's healthy enough to be back. And Olivier liked it. You know, that's just a subtle sign, Biz. Like, I'm seeing what you're writing out there. I'm watching this hockey game. I see what the Devils are doing to my Blue Jackets. And I don't think they'd be doing it if I was in the lineup. So hopefully he's back December 31st and I think you're going to see a little bit of a different devil's uh toughness with that guy.

47:23 Oh no, they'll be ready. Danico is playing. He already announced it. Yeah, Dylan will beat the [ __ ] wheels off of Ronov with a fair start or beat the wheels off Olivier. I welcome it. I can't wait to see it.

47:36 Wow. You think you can beat up? I think you got to bring somebody up. You bring up a kill someone out of the federal trade back for Mcder.

47:47 Hey, you get McDermad back. A little little swap for the night. The other thing I wanted to bring up was uh uh Aussie Wisblat ended up scoring his first NHL goal and right afterward points up to the sky for his on behalf of his brother uh who tragically passed in a car accident not too long ago. So, just thought that that was a very special moment and that family's been through so much. Uh, and um, yeah, just just really happy to see them have a moment like that.

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50:58 What an honor this is. We're out in LA joined by hockey hall of famer, Stanley Cup champ, Memorial Cup champ, I believe.

51:07 No. Oh, just Quebec League champ. Lost in the final goalie's fault. Oh, there we go. There we go. That's voice going.

51:14 We'll get that story now. Exactly. What happened? You went out the night before, had let a few too many in or what?

51:21 No, we uh we actually we felt we got screwed by the league. So, this is the days where it was in Portland and somehow they added a game to have Portland played against uh I think it was Colona. Uh Robbie Brown was on that team and Hitchcock was their coach, but they added a game to get a bigger crowd. I I don't know the way the standing was. So Robbie Brown, I think Hitch team won, but they played Wednesday, Thursday. We had to play them Friday night. So they played those poor guys played three and three nights. We were supposed to play Thursday and then the finals was Saturday 11th, but we so we we crushed them on Friday night because it was three and three nights, but then our excuse was we had to play at 11:00 the next morning against Windsor, which was uh Okay.

52:19 Gary Roberts. Oh, Chase on. Steve. So, you don't you don't even get the 24 hours rest. You're right into

52:27 So, that was our excuse. So, then you lost you lost in the final. Lost that one. I think it was 42 something

52:31 and that was your last year junior. We were looking at the hockey DB. So Papasan, the agent was on your junior game.

52:38 Okay. Wow. He was a front of the net guy. Really? Well, you're also not mentioning you had 191 points that year. Decent.

52:46 That's a little That's a little ridiculous. And then Keith, you said, let me click on this. The Hull Olympics.

52:52 Another guy had 191 points. You were low. Never even played. Yeah, he was. He had 91 goals, Luke. Yeah, he was he's the best goal scorer I've ever seen. Probably even better like a pure like like Y Curry was a pure goal scorer. This guy was a whole other level

53:10 really. He just never played. He got he went he signed with Montreal then went with the Islanders farm team got MVP of the playoffs and his story was when he signed with the Islander they had Patty Laonten and they said uh he said I'll sign he was kind of a stubborn guy you know he said I'll sign but I want to have one preseason game next year they said yeah you know sign a minor league deal like with the assistant GM so he went to the final from Europe and got MVP of the playoff day won next year showed up at camp at Al Arbor was the coach

53:45 and he cut him after three. He said, "Listen, Gee, you you had a really good camp. You did really good. If you go down there, you know, and you you do well, we'll call you back." Because he was he was small. And he he looked at him in his broken friend. He goes, "No." And Alber goes, "What? No." He goes, "No, you guys told me you would give me a game." So he says, "Well, Gee, I can't. You know, you got all the guys." and he said okay he he went home

54:13 never played again he went to Europe and in in Switzerland he's one of the leading score lit it up over there so he was a man of his word where

54:22 yeah he was he was awesome he didn't he didn't say so he said to them you got to give me the preseason game you promised me probably just cuz he was like I want to show you what I could do

54:30 he believed he he would have but I I do remember him saying before he died he goes I kind of screwed down that was all arber I go, "You're not kidding." He was awesome. I love Geek. He He's the one that taught me how to how to shoot,

54:46 actually. Yeah. We didn't do one-times every day for a year. He was the best one-time I'd ever seen and we practiced it every day. My last

54:54 We should just talk about his junior team. Oh, man. This is unbelievable. Through the list,

54:59 I'm going home, Al. Okay. That is so fun. We're in a preseason game. Well, you grew up in Montreal. Obviously, you're kind of the hockeyy's ingrained in the culture there. So, like what was your your your upbringing like? Was it hockey in skates at like two three years old? Like

55:15 Yeah, I think I was four. Okay. You know, we we that's how we uh we just started. We didn't have any money so we went to to a hockey school and then started playing and then just kept playing and I think I got made doubly with Vinie Dan Fouse was like a young guy Ben Hog they played in the island they were they were playing around and uh probably started making double A and Pee-Wee

55:43 that's when it kind of took off but I was always the the guy that you know he can't skate he's not going to make the team and You'd been hearing that you forget the NHL. You'd been hearing that when you were 10 and 11.

55:55 Yeah. Yeah. They would say the same. Yeah. That's crazy. I remember asking my dad then like you know you got to have someone like am I really slow? He goes ah he kind of gave me the all I knew if the puck is loose you seem to get there first. I go all right.

56:09 Hey was it? Okay. So it wasn't pretty but you got the job done. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't pretty at all.

56:16 Did you did you try to improve it after all the criticism? Would you go to like uh power skating?

56:21 Every every single year I did power skating because I knew that was the one thing I had to prove. And I I didn't make I didn't make midgeta my first year. They then I got sent down in New City. I didn't make the double A. So they they sent me Well, it's not I didn't make double A. They just sent me right to double B in those days. So I started there and I finished the year in double A and then the next year I made triple A. That was probably the moment that changed my career because I I love Gretzky then. So I would play center and I get to this tripaa team and Vinnie Danfu is going to make the the team. Ben Hog was you know they were ahead of me and uh so the coach at the end he goes he goes he had a really good camp. He goes uh he says uh I don't have room at center. He goes would you play left wing? I'm like, "Yeah, I play goalie to play triple AAA," you know, like a So, he kept me on the fourth line at uh to

57:19 start the year in in TripleA. But we had a coach, his name was Claude Terry. He coaching junior major. He's just motivated. No, no system, nothing. And so we we were just killing team because he was so good at motivating us. And because we're always leading four, five, one or so for the fourth line was playing. So, you know, when you're up in the fourth pair. So, after like three, four weekends, they they put the leading score and Vinie Danfus was there. Benua Hog, but I was like, let's say six in the league.

57:52 So then the next week, the left wing on the first line got hurt and I moved up. That's what happened. Yeah. Then I got drafted junior. That's how it kind of happened. at that age was like Vinnie so advanced where like all of a sudden you find yourself in this new position was you saying hey go here do this like was he one of the guys that

58:11 well Vinnie was like a year younger you know so he was like a first year so he was just really humble but he was really good he was really really good he was already big he was almost the size of the NHL

58:23 did you step in right away and you were kind of lighting it up as a first liner like that was pretty

58:27 seamless I ended up leading the team in scoring at the end of the year and I can't remember I think I got like whatever 100 points or something like that.

58:36 Wow. And that's when you're you're like whoa maybe I could make something of this like what was the what like well no agents talked to me you know so I remember I went to the draft in June I didn't know one team had called me so it was like the first pick was this guy Joseo played in Vancouver the second was Stefan Rishi I think and then there was a third one then I went to the bathroom thinking like you know I don't know when it's and I come out the bathroom I was fourth Really? They picked me to go to hull.

59:08 What a spot to land though. They had a rich history even then, right? No, they they were they were really they had been bad. They never passed the first round when I got there. And they the only guy they had that was a a really high-end player was Sylv Tjon.

59:25 Yeah. Up to that point, Hall never had much history. So you guys were I guess the first ones then cuz I remember like Max Talba.

59:32 Yeah, they won. They won the Max was after. So we were the first team that kind of changed the course. Pat B was our coach.

59:40 Oh wow. Right. Wasn't he like a cop there? First year he was an assistant coach. He had the big big beard and at one point he grew his hair for a couple months and then he left for about two he was doing undercover cover I think for the

59:57 and he was inside the Hell's Angels. Yeah. And we were like, we were so scared of him even though he was the assistant coach and the next year he became the head coach. But we didn't, you know, he's your coach. He was mean. He was tough. And he he just made us play hard. But I remember after a game he go, "Okay, there was only two bars in hall." He goes, "What bar you going?" I'd be, "We're going there." He goes, "Don't go to that one." And we'd be like,

1:00:22 because he was only 29, you know, he was going out as much as us. So we couldn't go to his bar.

1:00:29 That's And and and you guys were all like I guess 18's the drinking age there, right? So you guys were all boozing after game. That was kind of culture then, too, right?

1:00:37 Yeah, it was. Yeah, that's what it was. I mean, we'd play Tuesday night, Sunday night. Wasn't a lot of people in the bars but

1:00:45 you can't play guilty if you're only playing the Sunday game. You can't go Saturday. Maybe Friday though. Friday night.

1:00:50 Friday night if we didn't play on the road, you could go to was a couple bars. Was Bernie a X and O's guy too or is he a motivator as well?

1:00:57 Just motivate just like like Bernzie would just like you know you win tonight we're going out.

1:01:03 We're going out like it was like that was his big motivation. So you two coaches before that you so you had to learn on the fly pretty much.

1:01:13 We had to learn the fly and and Bernie would come and he he would talk to a lot of co before that like you got to give him credit. He was always talking to NHL guys and he was reaching out to learn and he come in and try new system with us. But but looking back it was just you got to go. If you didn't play for Bernie you just didn't play.

1:01:33 It feels like a Mighty Duck script. I feel like we should make a movie out of of Pat Burns's life. The fact that he's an undercover cop. He somehow weasels his way into the Hell's Angels. Would they think he's one of them? That was how it was.

1:01:44 Yeah, I think that's what it was. Yeah. And then like so after that like was there was never any trouble or weird instances when he was your coach of like any of that past

1:01:52 not with us but we knew he knew everyone in town you know it's a small town and all so we knew we we couldn't do anything he knew everything you know it was a

1:02:02 so he he was my coach my last two years in junior so the the last year we went to the finals and then he was one more year then he went to Montreal.

1:02:11 It wasn't long for him. It was like three years coach junior that's it. But your your draft too, I'm looking at like that was Mario's year. So you you grew up and and he was around like you always knew about him. Were you playing against him when you were younger?

1:02:25 No, because he we're the same age but he was born September. So he was a year ahead, you know, always

1:02:32 for the hockey birthday. Yeah. So like he made junior at So at 16 he played Laval and I lived next to her. So every Monday night I went see Mary with my dad.

1:02:42 It was that incredible. That was unreal. like the smoke in the building, you know, people saying to Steph it

1:02:49 people just hacking darts, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Just everyone's smoking. It's Quebec. Everybody smoking, you know. And then and then the next year when he was 17, Pat Laonten came. He was in Verdon. So Patty's game were Sunday night and Mario Monday. So [ __ ] Triple A was Sunday afternoon. Then I go see Patty on Monday. On Sunday, then Mario on Monday. And that those two guys they were, you know, toeto toe on the leading scoreer. And then the next year Mary had to come back. That was my first year junior. That was

1:03:22 So you played against him the year he had like 260 points, whatever it was. It was he he he didn't even try until in the third most games. I remember we played in uh in hall. That was our we had a terrible team my first year and Mary was coming. That was our biggest crowd and we were like pumped. you know, we're a bunch of kids and

1:03:43 Yeah. And he he comes in and after the first, I think we were up one nothing and in the second we're up 2-1 and we're like, we goddamn the crowd's going nuts. And Mario was at maybe at 60 games with a point every game and he had a record to beat. So, he was a little nervous. I mean, Mario Lemieux nervous. It's hard to see, but he looked like he was thinking a little bit. And next thing, I'll never forget, he chips it out of his zone and his winger just goes all the way down and scores. And Mario showed a little emotion. He kind of stepped. We're like, "Oh, shit."

1:04:21 Oh, no. He ended up with like two and two. We lost seven to two. It was over. I mean, it was like unbelievable. Like Dominica, oh, okay, I'm back.

1:04:31 Yeah. Yeah. And then and then the story about that year is we all laugh because we all felt he would only play in the third like that year because he was bored but the last game of the year he needed a certain record of goals and points to beat Gila Flur.

1:04:45 We were talking about this and he got 11 points that game and if you go back the opening face up he put it through the guy's legs split the D and I think roofed it and we said that's the only game he played 16 minutes that year. He got 11 points. 11.

1:05:01 That's crazy, man. So, that's the most dominant you've ever seen someone on a service

1:05:06 anywhere. It's not even close. Well, one of the questions I was going to ask you is like growing up there, I feel like these like famous hockey guys are revered as like gods, right? So, who like were you hockey obsessed growing up to the point where you were watching them on TV and like the you know all of them like the Rocket Rashard, all this?

1:05:24 Well, come on. I'm too young for the Rocket. No, we thought we thought we thought it was normal in Montreal. Like, you know, I was like uh 10 years old and they won four years in a row. I thought that was just normal. They just won every year. Like we Oh, the Bruins are the bad guys. But Montreal when we we thought it was normal like you know, you didn't realize. But then I do remember seeing Gretzky my first time 79. I think he was 18. When I saw Gretzky, it just was so different. That was unbelievable because Gilafleur was end to end, you know, and but for me to see Gretz anybody that's had a chance to see Gretz in Edmonton, I was like

1:06:08 just like thinking the game. You're and he was he was working so much harder. He looked like he was working harder than everyone else because he was always moving. No one had ever played that way. So,

1:06:18 and then you like, you know, being a late bloomer a little bit, you're saying like 5 years later you'd be drafted the first time you see him and then you're playing with him years later. It's like you must pinch yourself.

1:06:28 He bought my junior our junior team the last year. Yeah. Hall. He fought Hall. Yeah. He was owner of

1:06:33 our last my last year, Junior. He bought the team and I remember he came in the room and he shook, you know,

1:06:38 that's how I heard the Pat Burns story where he's like, "Oh yeah, he was a cop that used to hang out in the concourse and he would, you know, all the guys who talk shop up there like he just, you know, word spread, oh, this guy kind of knows what he's talking about and like and and then Gretz was the owner of the T.

1:06:53 Why would he what what made him buy that?" So, I don't know. He was in Edmonton and his dad knew this guy Charlie Henry. I don't know if you guys ever heard of him. He was well known in hockey in Ontario and around Ottawa. And Charlie was best friends with uh Walter. And when Gretz bought the team, Charlie was our GM.

1:07:15 Oh. And that's that's that's how this came about. And and uh and then we switched the jersey colors to the the the Raiders colors because Gretz loved the Raider, the Kings colors. We used to be blue and gold and

1:07:31 and then we We were like, we're the Gretzky boys. That's we had the Gretzky boys that year.

1:07:37 Wow. Actually, would he be around? Was he around at all? Maybe he came around uh o or like in during the training camp I think like you know the main season for them. He came to see a game. We all shook his hand in the room. We we and then the next night he got us all tickets to go see the game in Montreal. It was a preseason game. We were like

1:07:58 And he said back then he goes, "Fuck, I wasn't getting those games off. like I would be playing 12, you know, 10 12 preseason games.

1:08:04 Oh, he was the game. Let's give one to the guy on the Islanders for Christ. Give one to Ghee.

1:08:11 Um, so you it was it kind of like when we we saw McDavid come on the scene where it just he looked, you said it just looked like he was working that much harder. Was he also faster than everyone too?

1:08:22 He was quicker. Like he like people forget like Gretz was really quick like they you know his skating it was different like because he would stop like he would stop up everybody knew he was going to stop up on the you know the hash

1:08:36 but he would step three step back towards the blue line. So like he was the only guy that's ever done that in those days. So the D would stop and he'd be away and then he'd out he was the first guy to find guys coming behind, you know. I mean, I know Cough was fast and all that, but he found everybody. It was unbelievable.

1:08:55 So when he stopped up, he would work back to open up that passing lane again where defense were just normally it's like they would just stop. When that guy stopped and they put their stick there and they would just try to make the play, he would just like get back, slashs it back over. And his stop was always like a turn almost like a stop turn. But he was always moving against the grain. I I was like even when he came in LA, I remember watching him like I was just I'm like, "Oh, I can't do this. I can't do this. I can't do any."

1:09:21 I'm like, "I could maybe do this one thing that he's doing because you're trying to learn, you know, but he was to me that was sick." What

1:09:29 What about the behind the net stuff? Were you guys marveling at like, "Oh, like we've never really seen somebody utilize the back of the net that way."

1:09:36 Yeah. No one had ever seen it. No one knew how to handle it. I remember my first two years we play against Gretzky and the coach would say, "All right, don't chase him. If you don't chase him, he's just going to pick you apart at any time. You might as well chase him and and hope." Like Jacqu Lamair, we we always knew whenever we play against Jacqu Lamair, Jacqu Lamair had the rule, don't chase Gretzky. Gretz for sure got three points against Jacqu Lam even though he was the best defensive coach in the game. Yeah, the Gretz for sure picked him up. I there's a there's a clip I think Jacques was the co but Montreal never chased him behind the net and I knew that and we were in overtime.

1:10:17 It was a jock but he didn't chase him. And if you see me I I think I was with the Rangers with Gres. I I literally go to Gres wait I'm in front of I go all the way outside the zone because you know if you go outside the zone and I come right down the middle and he feeds me and I put it in. It was game over.

1:10:36 That was so funny. It was I literally I I remember should I I put my hand up to tell them no way. the Dmen are basically like near the goal line and they're just standing there

1:10:46 looking at each other. He would wait forever because he was going to pick apart the guy.

1:10:52 He's finding a passing lane. But in the 80s, I think when he was in Edmonton, like it's it's unbelievable where no one knew what to do with him.

1:11:01 And it's also the I feel like the tape studying wasn't really there, right? So it's almost like you would hear about like how other teams it would be like they threw the grapevine, right? like the William Wallace like I heard he's seven feet tall and like this is how you're supposed to defend like you guys weren't watching video were you? I It's funny you say that because my first year we make the playoffs and we I think we won nine games at home. The Kings here was 21 team. It was easy to make the playoffs then and and we're playing the Oilers and it's and in those days it was backto back in Edmonton and backto back in LA. So I think it was Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. So we go there on Wednesday and uh we win the game somehow and then so you wake up in the morning there's no skates because we're playing again. I remember the headline the Oilers are ch this is a 87 they won the cup that year

1:11:58 they they had lost the year before they're choking. They're just ripping them. I'm like oh we're all like oh no it's going to be bad.

1:12:05 Hopefully Wayne doesn't. So we go we go that night and we got cream 13-2. I think Red's got eight points.

1:12:14 I remember in the third with about 12 minutes left, the glass broke and Mike Murphy was our coach

1:12:20 and uh and we're we're skating around the glasses here and the referee goes, "It's going to take a few minutes, Mike." And Mike Murphy goes, "Can you just let the clock run and then the best one was Mark Hardy? It's like 12 to two at the time." And we're just kind of skating because it's taking so long. and Mark Hardy. We had Bob Bourne who had won four cups with the Islanders who's playing with us now at the end of his career. He's like he's down 12 to2. The poor guy just skating on the ice going slow. Mark Hardy goes to him like dead serb on the third goal. Did you What happened then? Like he's dead serious. Poor B.

1:13:02 Nine goals. We're laughing cuz we got one win. You know what? We're happy. What were you thinking on that pinch on the third goal?

1:13:12 That's right. That's when he goes over to the broken glass, puts one foot over, walks on the concourse. You never see my career done.

1:13:19 You never see him again. That is so [ __ ] funny. Oh my god. Anyway, we lost in five.

1:13:27 We can fly back to commercial. That's what sucked. That is so good. Uh, so actually Yan's brought this up in the card. You lived with Marcel Dion your first year with LA. Yeah.

1:13:38 Wow. That must have been crazy. It it it was pretty wild because what happened it was Jimmy Carson, Steve Ducha, and myself. We all made the team at the same time. So in those days, we came to LA and then they put the rookies at there was an old hotel right next to the form. It was called the Airport Park Hotel and then it was the the the racetrack where that's where Sofi is now. And um and we we got there and they said, "Listen, don't don't go out at night." Like I'm from Quebec. We don't know anything, you know, we just barely speak English. It still does, but but and so we're in the hotel, we don't know anything. And it it's a bad hotel. And we're staying there and they said, "Don't go out at night." We're like, "Really? Like why?" And then you know if I'm I've never seen grills on storefront and stuff like that. So we're kind of scared. We don't go anywhere. So after two days, Marcel went I think we played

1:14:35 a preseason game at home. Marcel went to Roi, our GM, and he said, "Hey, are these kids going to going to make the team?" Cuz we were scoring goals in preseason. It was like I think we had 11 games or the last two were were in LA.

1:14:51 So I think we had played the Canucks like five or six times because we had we had camp in Victoria. So to save money, we play the Canucks in Victoria, one game in Duncan, one game in Nimo,

1:15:05 one game in Vancouver. We took the Bosa as four, then we played them in Seattle. And you know, when you're rookie, no one knows you. And you know, I was trying to make the team. So you we're like scoring every game. I remember by game three, Gar Butcher like had me lined up. This kid's not I wasn't surprising him already. So we played them five time. But anyway, so we get in LA and Marcel went to them and he says if he's going to make the team, I'll I'll find a place. So Jimmy Carson lived across the street with a neighbor that he knew. I live at Marcel and then Steve Dra was about a mile away. He took care of us.

1:15:43 That was awesome. That was in Englewood, right where you guys were staying. So you

1:15:47 we were in Englewood. That's where we were staying. But Marcel lived in Palace Verde. So we were all three of us went to to PV Palis. And the deal was Marcel wanted me to help teach his kids to speak French.

1:15:59 Oh, but they were helping me speak English. He didn't never learn to speak French to poor kids. Guy that

1:16:04 like not I don't I feel like not enough people know about how great he was, right? He was out in LA and it was the beginning of hockey out here. Yeah.

1:16:12 But what was his game like? Like if you describe him now. Well, in those days like at 35 seems so old and and he was still doing that thing where he showed up at camp to get in shape. So like his pants he had a little belly and his pants were really loose and

1:16:27 and it was kind of it took three weeks to get him going but he was really really good like it. So Jimmy Carson played with Dave Taylor and I played with Marcel so they made two lines and I remember Marcel telling me just go to net I'm going to put it at the goalie's pads you'll get a rebound every time and he never missed. And you had 45 goals that year. Your rookie year.

1:16:49 It was really, really good. Like as a small player, if you look back at the Kings

1:16:55 for them trading probably Butch Goring to the Islanders when Marcel Leanne and Butch Goring were there, if they would have kept Butch Goring and number one, number two center,

1:17:05 they might have been really good in the next few years. Wow. Even for you, he was he was awesome. Marsh

1:17:11 for you when you came like a you were a seventh rounder, right? doesn't even exist anymore.

1:17:17 Like was there did you believe in yourself to even make that team? Like going into that camp, were did you have an idea that you could maybe even make the team?

1:17:25 Well, when I got drafted, I'm like, my name's on the list. They got to look at me. That's kind of the way I looked at it. I was like, all right, I now it's up to me. So, the first camp I went in those days, he used to do you guys are too young. And those it was like we do like aerobic in the morning and then practice and a scrimmage or two scrimmages. There were three teams.

1:17:47 So the first day I think I got like three goals in two games. I'm like I'm going to make the team. I I I didn't know I were I'm like I'm going to make this team. Next day I got a couple goals, a couple assists. I'm like I'm making a team. So the third day they cut me. No preseason, nothing. And I'm like what happened? I didn't know. you know, like everything is made up before, you know.

1:18:10 So, so it was Pacquin was my co the coach and Roi. So, they they're sitting in a room, they go, he had a really good camp little, you know, they kind of give you a story and they and Pacquid says, I'd like you to improve your skating. And he says, uh, I'd like you to be, you know, Pat, he had a cigar. I don't think it was lit up then, but he's like, I'd like you to be a little tougher. I'm like, "Okay." So, I go back to junior and we had a couple tough guy. I go, "You guys got to teach me. You know, [ __ ] I gotta fight." You know, they they're asking me. So, we had a guy, his name is Mario Wlette and I think Serge Rober, remember him? Like, I don't remember the name. He's still there. So, anyway, they they go, "Listen, Luke, here's what we'll do a favor." He goes, "Just just grab the arm, squeeze a jersey, swing a little, and hug the guy, make it look good." He goes, "Well, we're all going to jump on the bench."

1:19:07 I'm all right. He probably did that like seven, eight times in junior. And it it looked all right. You know, I just like picked my my spots and

1:19:15 guys always loved it. So the next year I come to camp in in LA. It's in Victoria. I get on there and

1:19:22 for some reason I was playing with Bernie Nichols and Bernie was like just kept feeding me. So I one time a couple I got two goals and I'm coming. And I'm like, and then and then I'm thinking they ask me to be tougher. I got to show them I'm tougher. There's no one in the stand except the scouts. I'm like, so this guy hits me and you know in hockey, you know, when the guy's a little late, it's not right. So this guy hits me a little late and he's bigger than me. And so I I I slash him and I look at him and I go, "Fuck you. [ __ ] you." And he and he looks at me and he he goes, "No, kid." And he skates away. Now I'm I'm more embarrassed cuz I'm like this [ __ ] total embarrassment. But I'm thinking I might as well pick the biggest guy. If I lose, they'll say he's got guts and if I win, they go situation. I'm going to shock him.

1:20:14 So couple shift later, I keep watching me. I think he was a right-handed player and he hits me. Not not as late, but this time I swung my stick as hard as I could at him. He turns around. So I drop my gloves and I do exactly what I did, Junior. I mistake number one. You probably didn't do that as I reach forward to grab him.

1:20:36 Oh no. And and just as I grabbed his home, it was he was a lefty. Bang bang. Cut me here. Cut me here. And I remember I heard Bernie jump. Go stop. You're going to kill him. That's all I remember. And I'm on the trainer come. They drag me blood. His name was Dan Brennan. And he was a tough guy in the M in the minors. I don't think he's ever played in the NHL.

1:21:02 [ __ ] They beat up the wrong guy. He got So then the next day I go in the room, they're going to they cut me again. And I go in the room, not even a preseason game, nothing. And I come in the room, my eyes, it was 25, was 13 and 12.

1:21:19 And it's like it he got me really good. I come in and and they're opening the book. They go to my page and Roio, we just want you to keep improving your skating. So Dave Taylor said, "I taught him a lesson and never asked me to be tough again."

1:21:38 That was it, I think. Thanks, Matt. And then Dan Bren And then Dave Taylor said, "Dan Brennan retired after that. He was scared to hurt more guys." No.

1:21:50 That was so good. You were told about the skating so often. You had to be like, I'm producing though, right? Like I I they keep bringing it up, but I keep producing.

1:22:00 I didn't look at that. I just kept trying to improve it. That's awesome. I remember being at Kev even in LA and you know, in those days it was all older guys and you know, you go blue line to blue line to all the way at the end and back and when everybody would kind of slow down the I would [ __ ] sprint to the end.

1:22:16 So you did good in those. I'll finish first. Like I didn't give a [ __ ] I was like I'm making this team, you know? I didn't care. I kept trying to finish first all the time.

1:22:24 You mentioned about how it was uh Dion who said just go to the net, I'll find you. Right.

1:22:29 Were you always a good netfront guy? Like were you able to take the punishment there? Like

1:22:34 No. So I'll tell you how I ended up being a front. So my first year in the NHL because in junior I love gratits. So I was a playmaker. Like even though I scored goals, it's the Quebec. Everybody scored goals. No, but Gobi my center got 90. I got like 130 assists like I cuz I played with him. I kept feeding him. So I was a pass first guy and then when I got to the NHL even though Marcel told me to go to the net, I said, "Okay." And but he was right-handed and then Jimmy Carson was right. So on I really played the half wall on the PP my first and second year. Then Gretz comes.

1:23:17 So they say, "Okay, Gretz is on the first power play." So So I would take Gretz on a change.

1:23:24 Oh no. Well, they were either scoring or he's on the power play. He's the best. He's 200 points a year. The odds are he's scoring every power play first. And if he's not scoring on the power play, he's staying too many. He's Wayne Gretzky. He should, you know. So I I basically would jump the last 20 seconds or whatever. So later I think it was the next year because Tom Webster was our coach maybe the first eight 10 games I didn't have maybe I had a couple goals. So Roi Vashan calls me in his office because I was still the youngest guy because we had John Tanelli Lar Robson when we got Gretz we kept trying to get guys to to help us win. So Roie goes he goes you know I know you're having a tough time but you're young. He's trying to give me a pep talk. Just keep working hard. Go to net. You'll be okay. And he he goes uh he goes, "I I get it. You're not playing on a power play." He goes, "It's kind of hard. You're taking

1:24:19 Grets." He goes, "I wish you were a front of the net guy." He goes, "You know, I" And I look at him and I [ __ ] lied like everything. I go I go, "I could play the front of the net." He goes, "You can?" He goes I go, "Yeah." I go, "I played junior my whole career at the front of the net." He goes, "You did?" I go, "Yeah, my whole career." He goes, "Okay." I get I get on the ice like for practice like an hour later and Tom Webster skates by me. He goes, "You played the front and then junior." I go, "Yeah." He goes, "All right, we'll put you in front." And I [ __ ] rest of my career play the front. I'm sorry, but I just want to get on the ice with Grant.

1:24:56 Really? I'm like the practice suck in front of net, but in that game it was awesome.

1:25:01 Move around a little bit. So that's that's literally I swear to God that's how I ended up in that for my career.

1:25:06 You should have been your own agent. That is crazy. There's no video of Junior. They're not going to go check it out. Just on the spot when you were in the spot.

1:25:16 I'm like, "Fuck, I got to get on that." He's not tipping anything. They're like, "Uh dude."

1:25:20 So, did you start working on your tips and stuff in practice? But, but I didn't know when I was bored as a kid, I would play tennis with a hockey stick against a wall, you know? So, I would just try to hit a 100 times. So, I was pretty good at tipping, but I would I started like I put guys at the blue line just shoot and just I would never try to tip him in front of I would try to stop him in practice.

1:25:42 Oh, because I figured if I could stop in practice, I'm going to somehow hit it. So, but I it was every day I had

1:25:49 and back then I feel like the Dmen they would legit keep their shots along the ice most of the time. No, more so than now.

1:25:57 Or am I crazy? Yeah. But but what made it easy is the D played behind us. Like the D would cross check you from behind. Now they front you. Like a Pronger and Mckennis were the first two that started playing in front. They would start blocking. That changed everything. In those days they were behind. So if you timed it right,

1:26:16 you were always able to to get some room in front. If you tipped it, you took the cross check after right away. But if I timed it right, I was able to get there,

1:26:27 tip it, then take the beating. Unreal. What was the excitement level like when Gretz came? Like it was so crazy. And like interviewing Wayne about it, it's really cool to hear how it went down. But for you and the guys here, it's like, oh my god. Like we we couldn't in Gretz does I don't think Gretz knows that, but in February of that year, like Gretz won the cup in Edmonton. February that year, Bruce McNull, we had the All-Star game in St. Louis and I was coming back and my dad was on the plane and he said, "I think I got a chance at getting Gretzky." And we were like just like, "Oh, yeah." All right, Bruce, we'll go to LA. And and we're we're looking at things. And then right around that time he was going to change the Kings colors and it was going to be if you look at the this jersey and it's in black.

1:27:22 Everything was the same but it was dark blue. Bruce McN's color of his company was a very dark blue.

1:27:30 Uh like I'm trying to see like really dark. It was kind of cool. Like really dark though

1:27:35 but all the same. So I I look at it. I'm like oh that's really cool. And he's like what? And it was I think it and I'm not sure it was that logo. I think it was just a crown. And I said, "Oh, that's really cool, Mr. McDonald." But I said, "You should see my junior team." I said, "We had the same, but it was black." And I said, "That was Gretzky changed it because he liked the Raiders." I I just said that in like January, not thinking anything

1:28:01 cuz you knew. And then when I win the All-Star game, they saw somehow there was a film of in Junior and and Bruce saw it, but he was trying to get Gretz. I don't think Gretz knows that, but I think Bruce was like, if Gretzky designed those jersey in Junior, those it's the same jersey we had in junior, different logo. Wow.

1:28:23 That one year only like a that one year like before that we were another color. He's like, "Why the hell are you on the house?"

1:28:29 So he says, he says, "We're going to get grits." Oh yeah, sure. And then July comes in and he had said to me and Jimmy Carson, I think he had not douche, but I think he had told Jimmy and myself, "We're never trading you." You know, like we were really young though. But you we'd have to ask Jimmy 100%. But I remember I think at some point Jimmy went to Bruce when he when it was there was a buzz internally for us that Gretz had a chance and I think Jimmy went to to Bruce and said if Wayne comes maybe I should get traded because really well we had Bernie too so he would have been a third line center. I think Jimmy Carson was really smart that cerebral smart you know he was he was investing in stock at 18. And I was like, "What is that computer?" And you know, he knew about Microsoft like what is that? You know,

1:29:25 wow. You know, so and I think Jimmy said it might be better for his career to be moved at that time.

1:29:32 Wow. you know. So, so then when I mean it was it when we got grats it was freaking

1:29:38 like the crowd immediately superstars everything. It was but but McNall was so good at promoting like he made sure there was celebrities and I think they had dinner before the game then Bruce would take him in our room before warm up or many time between warm-up and the game cuz if he knew the celebrity weren't staying after he'd take him before and then if they were there there was always someone after the game something it was show it was

1:30:09 even before though you guys were like before all the Oh my goodness. Oh yeah, he would bring him in.

1:30:14 It was awesome. Like I remember he brought Stallone and he's like, "I brought Rocky to pump you up and he's high-fiving everyone." Pretty sad.

1:30:22 He leaves the room. We're all like, "He's really small, you know?" You're a dumb Canadian. That's all you

1:30:29 Wasn't there a club in that arena that they all Yeah, there was a form club. So Bruce had a

1:30:34 had an area like he had dinner with everyone and but we everybody was coming. It was on just like that. Like before it wasn't really like that even.

1:30:43 No, there were a couple people that were celeb like the I think Glenn Fry, the Eagles were hockey fan. They knew Marcel a few

1:30:51 but when it was Gretz it was we were like the Lakers. Wow. Like the Lakers were starting to slide a little bit like they weren't doing as good. I can't remember. There was

1:31:00 and all these people were see the greatest hockey player to ever live. It was like and then Bruce had like Rose on the on the glass and Ronald Reagan was coming. I mean,

1:31:10 he had everyone coming. It was all about Gretz and then we we would do tour like so the first year we go we go back to Victoria. Gret is like, "What are we doing here?

1:31:20 Let's go to Vegas." So then we we ended up going to uh we went to Hall to have training camp one year and then we would do a tour. So they would they would try to schedule the Rangers or Pittsburgh with Mario and we would play Tampa Bay, Florida. We played like Cincinnati, other like Houston, Dallas. We would do so we would play like seven, eight games on the road.

1:31:46 Sell them all up. It was all to it was sellouts. It was always supposed to be Mary and Wayne

1:31:51 and they never really played against each other in preseason, but it was and then funny enough all these new franchise came out of it. I always say Wayne had everything to do with those. It probably would have happened, but it happened so fast after Wayne. Like Anaheim, San Jose, Dallas, Phoenix,

1:32:10 Miami. We played all those arenas like with Wayne when they didn't have teams. Wow. There was no one. We played, you know, the baseball stadium. That was the biggest crowd at time for a preseason game though.

1:32:21 We go to Miami against the Rangers. They told her, "We took Kelly Rudy off the net because that that the ice was melting the gold crease." So they told uh I can't remember our second go said you got to play outside the crease in the third and then Bruce comes in. We're just going to do a continuous time. So they they kept the clock going and Gretz didn't play in the third. The pony that's for sure. We couldn't believe looking at things on the way down that I would have thought it was like the second year Gretzky was in LA was the run to the final, but it was his fifth year.

1:32:55 So like there was times where I'm sure you guys are like Wayne's coming. We're going to win a cup and then one year, two years, three years, some frustration probably grew.

1:33:02 I think it was it was probably slowly building in the right direction. Right. When we got Gretz like like like Gretz to what it took to win. He had won four by that time. So he made sure he got like Mike Crocheski and he got Marty.

1:33:15 Yeah. You know, and and Charlie Huie. We signed Charlie Huddy too from from the So right away we we were And then we signed Larry Robinson, John Tanelli, Steve Casper from the Bruins.

1:33:28 So we were a good team, but I think we were probably missing something. So the first year we were down 3-1 against the Oilers and came back and beat them in game seven. And then I think the next year, I can't remember, we we beat maybe Vancouver, then we lost against the Oilers in six game, but Gres was hurt. I think he got a shot on his ears and then the the Oilers won the cup that year,

1:33:54 right? Then the third year, all I think the second year, my first year, Gretz was Calgary was really good. They won the cup, you know, or they had just won the cup or whatever, right? All around that time. I can't remember who we lost. We might have lost against the orders again the third year. And

1:34:12 wow, it feels like this organization here has a lot of playoff history. Holy not to bring up the last

1:34:18 No, I know. Thanks. All right. Well, thanks for coming on. A great run in 93. All right, boys. I'm out of here. No, but but you're right. And in the year we went to the finals, there were we thought Gretz might never play again. He got hurt. I think first day of camp. I mean, you guys got to ask Gretz when you see him because this is the year we had camp in in Lake Arrowhead and Gretz was working out with Janet and he was uh and he comes to camp and this the first year he says he's in shape because he these guys always showed up to camp to get in shape, right? She said, "I worked out all summer and everything." And then in those days, we used to do a push-up test and it was like as many push-up with with your thing. And I think they would stop you at 50 or 75. So I think Gretz did like 20 and he was like, "That's it." He he used to do like two, you know, and then the setup test was like

1:35:17 they stopped you at 75 and I think Gretz did 50 or so. He did a lot. And he comes that's it. I'm in shape. the next day he blew his back

1:35:27 and I remember him said that's the last time I'm working out and then a helicopter came and because it was in the mountain and and then we heard like he might never play again apparently is back he didn't play till January he didn't come back till January

1:35:42 wow that year that you lost to Montreal that was that year yeah so so that year Barry Melos was our coach and and what people didn't know is we had Alex Zitnik as an 18-year-old Daryl Sedor and Rob Blake as a 21 22

1:35:59 and those three young kids were unbelievable on D and Kelly Rudy and we had Charlie Huy, Mark Hardy. We we had a good D and Marty obviously and

1:36:09 and we we did we came out of gate really good and then kind of went down and Gretz came back and you know you get on a on a good team. Yeah, we had a lot of speed but

1:36:20 but it's amazing like we thought he might not come back. We were told that they weren't sure.

1:36:26 Unreal. And then he then I think he had like 45 points in the playoffs. It's unbelievable.

1:36:32 Lightweight. That's ridiculous. Half a back. So like what ended up happening towards the end of your first time here? Like you ended up going over to Pittsburgh.

1:36:40 Yeah. And and you were there for one year. Unfortunately, you don't get to play with Mario cuz he was out right at the time.

1:36:45 So like what happened? Was it a trade? Was it an offseason signing? Like Well, I broke my ankle the year before. I think in January, I think January, February, I hit the wall and my foot turned this way, but there were no X-rays or anything. So, they said, "I think you're okay." And they froze it a little bit. And then then, like, you know, the doc said, "Keep your foot eye

1:37:10 kind of nuts. I kept my foot eye." So, there was no swelling. So, I missed a couple games and then they shot it. We taped it and I jump I jump on the ice on the bed. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] that hurts." But I got to the slot, I get a pass, and at one time it goes in. So then everything's good that that the coach thinks you're great. Everything's okay. And I just kept playing. It kept getting worse, getting worse, and but we kept shooting it. And then it healed wrong. And then I found out in the summer it was it was cracked. So I that got better, but it didn't get better.

1:37:47 Surgery. And then I got traded to Pittsburgh and then it was a lockout though. You know why I screwed up though is like Mary was smart. He didn't do training camp so he got paid. I did camp and I had a bad ankle and then I never got that was dumb. I should have just said no.

1:38:05 Yeah, cuz if you that was Yeah, it was there was a few guys that were like I'm hurt. Like I was like that was really dumb of me.

1:38:14 I missed a couple games, you know. Wait, if you didn't do a camp, for instance, Marian Hosa, Marian Hosa got hurt from that hit from Rafie Torres. And I believe that

1:38:24 he was still like in concussion protocol when that quote unquote season would have started the following year when the lock was. So, you're still collecting your full salary.

1:38:34 Yes. That is that was a huge advantage to guys who had offse surgery. The big boy the big boy wasn't playing. He wasn't getting paid.

1:38:41 Yeah. And I'm sure if you're Well, he was an owner. He probably do. Yeah. He wasn't an owner then. Later he became an owner. What they owed him.

1:38:48 So, uh, what was like what was your time like there? I mean, you got to play with Yogger. That must

1:38:52 Oh, it was a But we didn't play till January when we came here. It was like 48 games in like 90 days. And that's really Yog's first year where he was the guy. That's his first like he was really good. They had won the cup, but he was the kid that year. It was like it was took over. And Ronnie Francis was on the team. Kevin Stevens got hurt. It was a really good team. We had Tommy Baraso. That was

1:39:17 He was crazy, right? I heard. Wasn't he a silly guy? Like I heard he was crazy.

1:39:22 I think he got mean sometimes. He was really mean like but but I didn't know he was he was all right with me but he got hurt and we had Ken Reggan in net who was just the greatest guy and then Tommy comes back and I had heard stories like so you couldn't raise the puck in practice and anything and so we we never practiced so he was going to do the morning skates and and the the warm up. Okay. So, we get in the morning skates and one guy hit him here and he just skated off the ice. This was his first practice. I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ] What's going on here?" And then we get in a warm-up in the game, you know, the second goalie. Everybody tries top shelf, you know?

1:40:03 [ __ ] Ken Regga is our goalie and we've been waiting. We had a good team. Guys are trying Ken Reagan top shelf and then Tommy gets in that as the second goal and I everybody's literally shooting on the ice. I'm like, "What the [ __ ] is like what the [ __ ] And let me feel.

1:40:20 So he came back at Tommy. I think he then he got hurt again. Kenny Reed was our goalie, but it was funny. Like it was funny to be on his team. That was a whole different thing.

1:40:29 He in the locker room like he would snap like there was some No, he was he he just didn't say anything. Guys were scared of him. They just didn't talk to him. The only guy that would kind of tough was on him is all Samuelson.

1:40:41 Oh yeah. All Samson was he didn't care. Alfie would be all over him, play cards with him and rip him and he didn't care. But like was Baraso a tough guy? Was he tough?

1:40:52 No. How would he just How would he just intimidate you by being an [ __ ] So yeah, he was just Yeah, he was just he would swing his stick and it was just like there was a lot of non-negotiable. They had won the cup so he could do anything he wants. So he wanted to. So he just did it. Like we we go there and they were still in the Mary era where no helmet, the morning skates and

1:41:14 no shoulder pads, right? We would I was playing with Mario with Yags and and Ron Francis and we go okay threeon one you know you go threeon 0 threeon one and three on two and I remember we we'd be going on the three on and if the the goal didn't go in Yags would stay and still playing some Ron and I would go three on two onone and then we'd turn around at three on three and Yags would come back in the Ronnie would give him a long P go on a breakaway that would be It [ __ ] does. That's the drill. Like, and he'd have a sock on his head. Like, it's just like he Eddie Johnson was our coach. Oh, it was awesome. Just ran a show.

1:41:56 Funny cuz I played with Yogs later on, but there'd be a drill going down one end and he would just be doing his own thing. His linemates would be looking for him, be like, "Yeah, no. Somebody else jump in." He beat to his own. He worked hard though.

1:42:08 Worked his nuts off. He'd stay and do three on three after practice for an hour. He didn't care. and do weights on his legs all the time. But it was

1:42:15 interesting. It was so fun. But it was a marri. We all I don't you guys weren't playing that, but we would go every time I went to Pittsburgh, we'd watched our morning go, "Wow, this is so cool." Mary would come in 10 minutes late, take a couple one time. Everybody was so relaxed. You that then you go and lose 76. It was awesome. They didn't turn it on, you know. It was just a different team.

1:42:43 Biz, weren't you at training camp with him? And like the coach was like, "All right, we're bag skating." Mario was like "No

1:42:48 I think Eddie Oldchuck, it was his first year and he was coaching and they'd played together and you know, and and I was in his group

1:42:55 and I I I remember he he was like, "Hey, you know, great day. You had the scrimmage. You did the practice. We're going to do a skate." And he was just like,

1:43:04 "Not today." And I was like here just call the coach we're not skating after hey great day we're having a sk hey this is [ __ ] ridiculous but like I was so young and naive like I just like didn't even know how big of a deal that moment was right like he was just

1:43:20 I was so nervous I came around the net one drill I passed to him and I must have missed his tape by 15 ft start the drill over I'm like oh my oh yeah that was my ex and then I asked him to go to lunch and he's like who the [ __ ] is talking right now, right? Yeah. No, I was a bit of a donkey or a lot of a donkey. But, uh, so that that was shortlived. You were only there for that one year and then it was off to to New York for two. So, like I mean, you played in some [ __ ] awesome spots. What was that like

1:43:51 for me? Going to New York was great, you know? It was uh because the lockout like Howard Balloon like Tom Rich, I had the same agent as Mario. So they there was they knew there was financial trouble and Howard Baldwin was really cool. Like I had an arbitration case. In those days we all had an option year. So when the after the lockout you had the choice as a player to not take the option option year and just end your contract or take it. And because I had eight years in a row with 40 goals I had the best arbitration case. So Bob Goodnau was like, you know, he didn't tell me, but with my agent said, you should take the arbitration case.

1:44:34 Yeah. So we filed for arbitration and then Pittsburgh Mary was coming back. So now I think the insurance wasn't kicking in. So it was kind of a little bit money thing. So Howard was great like he was going to trade me to the right to a good team. I remember that. He told me that. So it was the Rangers. He promised like I'm not going to say

1:44:54 he promised the team the three teams I had heard funny was Anaheim, Chicago Rangers and ended up being the Ranger which I love New York so it was awesome.

1:45:04 You signed a two-year deal there? No. So then I was a um so I filed for arbitration. So I I was going without a contract that summer and I think I was 29. I was going to become a free agent at those at 31 or 32. Crazy.

1:45:22 So they kept trying to sign me for four years and so we said no, we'll just sign for two, you know, and then they that was the battle. It wasn't. So then the last man said, "Well, [ __ ] it. We just we asked for six." And they said, "Well, give in those days no one signed for six years." So I got a six-year deal with the Rangers.

1:45:43 Wow. And then after two years, I didn't understand. You know when no one talks to you. I didn't understand my role with the team. Col Campbell was a coach and we got Gretz the next year but I still never knew how to play. I just I was like I don't want to be on the first line but can I play more than let's say I was playing 13 14 minutes. Can I get to 16 and let's say in LA before that was you had 18 19 as a winger. So I was never going to play. So, uh, actually, um, Neil Smith sat down with me and I I I I remember telling Neil, I said, "Neil, I I love it. I love Liy Mess.

1:46:23 They were great." I said, "I just need to play a little bit more." I said, "I'm not asking for a lot, just a little bit more because I we had Gravy, one of the best teammate ever, you know, and uh and he came he called me back in the summer. He goes, "Listen." He says, "I talked to Coley. He's not going to play you more." So so this day I ripped Coley Campbell, by the way. But, so anyway, he came to me. He goes, "But I know LA wants you back." He goes, "I think I could make a trade there." And Kevin Stevens was there. We were two wingers kind of the same stat scoring. So, it was a one for one. So, that's how I got back to LA.

1:47:03 No [ __ ] That summer. Wow. So, you And once he told you that, you're like, "Oh, I'll go back there."

1:47:07 Yeah. I was okay with that. Like I wouldn't have had a choice but I but I it was respectful the way they did it. Like so so people I I felt they treated me good coming out of Pittsburgh. Same thing coming out of New York.

1:47:19 So you finished and finished that deal in LA six years. Like is it rude to ask you at that time? Was it like a like a revolutionary deal? Not only in term but like

1:47:28 Well, the guys were dying in the Rangers. They were Nick Capri was dying six years because in those days it was all two three a four year deal was very long in those days

1:47:39 and and like what was the AAV back it was it was uh it was 32 that was a lot of high 40 goals for 18

1:47:47 over 18 million yeah 18 whatever that must have been one of the biggest contracts that the league had ever seen then total

1:47:54 Gretz had like grits had like a big deal like in a big who signed a six-year deal, a 3.0. No one no one signed for for for but but guys were starting to sign for big money you know and like you know that three four million like Holly was at four I think in those days and guys were it was starting to to

1:48:14 so good for you though like you came up at a time where like if you were 10 years prior like you they were kind of making peanuts so you finally got that must have been oh that's a

1:48:25 eras the same you know I you go back like when a guy was making 300 grand in the 70 most people were making 50, you know so there there's a difference though. It got higher between normal people and but it's the same today. There's guys that are bitter and I'm like, but don't be bitter. Like we were lucky, we were treated good, but today's guys, it's

1:48:49 you another level, you know. I tell I tell some of our kid, I go, you know, if you just hit the net all the time, you become a 30 goal scorer at 20, you're going to make a hundred million.

1:49:00 Yeah. Yeah, that's $100 million, you know. I mean, it's ridiculous. Think about that. I'm like, you know, if you just hit that, you get the 30 and you do that two, three, you make a hundred million.

1:49:13 I never really thought about it that way. Holy [ __ ] I was kind of just happy getting 20. Oh my. So then that deal finally expires and then like was Detroit on your list of teams to go to?

1:49:24 No, I I thought I was resigning in LA and I didn't know then. Now that I'm on the other side and I get the business, they had internal budgets and I thought I was signing in LA and I ended up not signing. I got an offer the day before and you know it I was 34 or 33 at the time or 34 maybe and but I led the team in scoring and we'd beaten Detroit in the playoffs. So I thought I was going to sign a two or threeear deal and let's say I was at 32. I thought I was going to get four, you know, like a two or three year deal. And Dave Taylor was our gym and I think he told me they they had offered me a little bit of a pay cut and a one-year deal. So my pride and my ego, you know, I was like, "Fuck that." Like, you know, I I think I should I I wasn't asking for a lot. But so that was the day before free agency. So then I was like, "Okay, they it was more I thought they didn't want me, but I didn't know

1:50:23 there's budget. you you got you be you got to be accountable for someone. So I I remember I said I'm I'm gone. And and then I talked to Dave and I told him I go, "Dave, it doesn't matter at this point. If you don't know what I'm worth, I'm gone."

1:50:36 You were insulted a little bit. Yeah. You know, but so the next day I remember like my kids were enrolled at school. They were getting older. So I started talking to Pat Bers, my agent, and I think Tom Rich was still alive in those days. Yeah. and I was looking to not live too far. So, San Jose was coming up and I thought I had a chance there. And then Dallas was pretty good. And then, but they signed Adam Graves in San Jose. And then Pierre Tjon, I think Donald Odetto or someone else signed in Dallas. So, then that day Dominic Hass got traded to Detroit. And I'm kind of on the phone and I was at my father-in-law and my wife says to me, she goes, she goes, "Why are you looking to say?" I go, "Well, because it's close if you we we thought the first year she wasn't going to come with me." So I said, "It's close. It'll be easier for you." So she said, "Well, who do you think's going to have the best team next

1:51:36 year?" So I said to her without thinking, I go, "Detroit." She go, "Well, you guys just beat." I go, "Yeah, but

1:51:43 they got Dominic Hass. No, they'll have the best team." She goes, "Well, why don't you try to go to Detroit that literally?" And I go, "Really? But it's far." She goes, "It doesn't matter. 4 hours or or an hour or two hours the same." So we call Pat called Detroit and I think they were trying to get Salani or someone else.

1:52:02 Wow. And within an hour I was there. No. Wow. Crazy story. It was a two-year deal. Yeah. I was there

1:52:12 and then Holly went like maybe a month later cuz I was I looking at your career, right? Like I would have guessed it was all right like I've I came to Pittsburgh after they won. I came to New York after they won. I want a cup. But you you were more like hey I was willing to stay in LA and it's your wife who said hey they're going to be good.

1:52:29 I thought we were really good when we beat Detroit. We had Stumple at Center and I remember I met with uh our president Tim La. What do you think we did? I said, "We need one more center." And JR was up that year and I thought we were going to go get JR. I didn't know we were going to cut the budget. I'd be out. I mean, we, you know, we had Adam Dead Marsh, we had Py, you know, we had the cat Pod Van and Net like he he was a great goalie. Butterfly, but we were really good on We had Manny Nordstrom. Like we had traded Blakey, but it was a tough trade for all of us cuz he was our leader. But you get um uh uh what's his name? Miller from from Colorado.

1:53:16 Kevin Miller. Kevin Miller. Like no, not Kevin Miller. Huh? Not kid. No, the defenseman. He was really good. God, he's going to be mad at me.

1:53:24 No, it was a Miller. It was a defenseman. Right-handed defenseman. Really like a stay-at-home defense and and Adam Denmark. And we got a first pick for Rob Blake. So you get dead Mars and a really good four defenseman.

1:53:40 You're never replacing Rob. You had to diversify a little bit. Tough trade, but you got to make it.

1:53:46 And so so I thought we were really good. Gary Miller. Aaron Miller. That's it. Sorry, Aaron.

1:53:51 But I was and I thought if we could get a second line center, we had Ian Leer on our team. He was lap. He was tough. Understood his role. We had a lot of good role players.

1:54:01 Don't feel bad. I called Nick Luke today. We did. one of our guys here. Sometimes my brain just cuts out.

1:54:08 Speaking of money being crazy, that was the year Hashik had if they won the cup, he had a million dollar bonus. And I remember this, everyone's like, "This is insane. You guys, you guys won it." And it was discussed like a million bucks. He's

1:54:20 Well, we were joking last year up to a few years ago that team salary was like 85 million. That was the cap

1:54:28 two years ago. There were teams at 20. So, so they had no problem paying you either. So you got your number and your two years.

1:54:36 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and and I think Stevie and Shanny at some point Ken called them. They they they deferred some money to help the budget. Yeah. I think Shanny, Stevie, I think these guys did. I think I remember hearing that.

1:54:51 I met you that year in the cup finals because they had the draft prospects come to the game. And the thing I remember most was Eisermanman, he could not pregame skate.

1:55:00 He was limping. We he was getting treatment when we got to meet him and then like guys were saying like it's the guys from the NHL they were bringing us around like it's insane he's playing.

1:55:09 He didn't practice from the Olympics on and then he would they would freeze him and he he would get in a warm up. It was funny because he was all taped up and he could barely move around and then when the tape loosened up and the way they froze on me but it would only kick in at game time. So in the warm-up, guys on the other team would be looking, what the [ __ ] He like if he'd go to stretch, he couldn't get up. He'd have to put his stick down and then try to get out cuz he was taped up. So it was like

1:55:40 he's skating like Robbitie. What the hell's going on? I was blown by him. Wasn't even close in the warm up. I go around him.

1:55:48 So he did this for half season basically including from the Olympics on it. Steve was unbelievable. Yeah. Just to see that in the locker room. Guys must have been like we got to win this for [ __ ] capping that.

1:56:00 Yeah. You just like he he was awesome though. He like Mass is a great obviously grass and Stevie was was he he didn't speak a lot that he he did one for me that I remember he did one two I think it was only two speeches. So I you guys are going to like it. So I got to tell you a couple Scotty Bowman stories you want. I'm in LA. We're like Scotty Bowman. Like I'm from Montreal. My dad loves Scotty Bowman. So So I get I get to to Detroit and I'm like Scotty Bowman. So he sees me in the hallway. He goes, "Hey, hey Luke. Hey Luke. Hey Luke. You like it? You like it here? You like to play golf? You like to play golf?" I'm like, "Fuck, that's really weird." That's how Scotty talks off the ice, you know? He's like, "You like it?"

1:56:49 I go I go, "Yeah." He goes, "There's some good good tracks you got. We were we had camp in uh Traverse City.

1:56:55 So that's it. Never says another word. He never comes on the ice the first week of camp. At one point he comes by the board and he goes he used to abuse Barry Smith and he goes, "Uh, Barry, Barry, come here." And he we would only do the veterans on the ice. And he goes, "Uh, I don't want to see anybody get hurt here." He goes, "If you're doing SC," he's yelling at the coach word there. "If I see anybody get hurt, it's your fault. you're out of here to Barry Smith. So he said no stopping. So every skating drill we weren't allowed to stop at camp.

1:57:30 We're all laughing and Holly's just dying. Just laughing, you know, like we had Chel and these guys and we're just ripping Barry Smith. We're not stopping anymore. It's awesome. But but but I do recall him saying because we're going to play till June. So right away he said that in September. So I'm like ah that's his message, you know. So then we start the year and he says it doesn't explain it but we read in the paper that we're going to do a new system. They used to play the leftwing lock Detroit. Everybody knew that but they were really really good at it. So it was going to be like a V and we're all joking it's going to be the Mighty Ducks like a flying V and but no one could understand it because it's it was like a one two in the offensive zone but we we can't figure it out. So, as the game would go and the puck would would end up on on our right side and the left side, we were supposed to do a V and cut the ice,

1:58:30 but [ __ ] puck would end up on the left side and there'd be a breakaway. So, we'd give up two, three breakaways a game, but we had Dominic Hass, so he'd stop him and we we'd win a few and lose a few. And next thing you know, I think Holly and Stevie and some of the other, they said, "Listen, we can't keep we don't even know what we're doing." And they were like, "We're not a pressure." They they kept want us to chip it in. And Holly like, "We're not going to chip it in." He goes, "Here's what we'll do. Let's play that trap like in Dallas." He goes, "We'll just get the puck. We'll never give it back." That's that's how he pitched it. So Stevie and Barry Smith and I don't know how they did it, but somehow they came and one day they said, "Okay, we're going to play the trap.

1:59:18 When we get the puck, we're just not going to give it back." That that was our system basically. So we go to Edmonton and it's one of those eastern uh western trip. So we go to Edmonton and we're there early. So we're practicing and Scotty's down the ice and the guys are like, "Look at Scotty." And I look up. He's got the newspaper. He's not watching. They're like, "He hates the trap. He hat It's not his idea." So he hates the trap. So So we're practicing. They're all laughing and we're doing the trap and he go he f he hates the [ __ ] So then we we win, let's say, 4-1. Next day we're in Calgary. We're practicing. The game is after not on the ice. Got the newspaper.

1:59:58 He's not looking. So we win like five in a row. Then he comes on the ice, you know, cuz now the trap works. But guys, that was that's how we started with the trap.

2:00:07 You didn't want to be associated with it. He he hated a track cuz it was like every team did it, you know, but it worked. So that's kind of the guys came up with that in the locker room.

2:00:18 It was the guys maybe with Barry Smith, Dave Lewis, but I don't know how it happened, but we started playing the tour. We're like, we're just going to give it to Nick Lstrom. He'll [ __ ] find a way. He'll find us.

2:00:27 No [ __ ] No [ __ ] And that's like that was Datsuk was like fourth fine, right?

2:00:32 Datsuk was our fourthline player and we were like, "Holy [ __ ] he did good." Oh my god. It wasn't even CL. We had never seen He would do [ __ ] on the ice. We never seen I remember he's a rookie. Maybe that's his fifth game. The puck is at for some reason the puck is at at the red line at center ice but it's standing up and the D's come in to just poke it and the kid's standing still. He chops it and the guy stick goes over. He [ __ ] flips it down and goes three on two. And Holly goes, I want to play with this guy,

2:01:10 the magic man just and at one point they put they put a line Stevie Holly and me. So we all had 600 goals. So everybody's laughing, you know. So we're all we we go on the run. We win eight in a row. I get eight goals in a row. But Holl's only got a couple goals. He's got a bunch of assists cuz I keep picking up his rebounds. And Stevie like we just get so like game seven Holly gets on the man he goes [ __ ] it Stevie can't pass the puck. Everything is like this and he's telling me that. Then he looks at me goes why the [ __ ] am I telling you that for you never even thought of passing the puck. And I'm like I think the line's pretty good.

2:01:56 He hated a set. He was great. What a team that was. He was the He kind of reminds you of Phil Kessle from the stories you hear about him. Like the perfect guy where maybe not the leader, but just crack the jokes, get the job done.

2:02:12 He was so And he's going to score. Yeah. And he was going to score a goal. So anyway, so so Steviey's story was we're opening night in San Jose. We haven't seen Scotty and we go to San Jose and the year before Detroit lost a bunch of leads. We beat them in the play. They lost leads. Like we were up they were up three nothing. We So we're up 3 nothing against San Jose and San Jose. They they were not really good and we we tied it. No, we're up. They tied it in the third. So now it's the buzzer and we're going to overtime and Scotty goes, "Uh, hey Stevie, bring bring everybody here." I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ] This is it. This the first speech from Scotty Bowman." And Scotty goes newspaper.

2:02:55 Stevie, we're going to miss the [ __ ] curfew. We're gonna miss the [ __ ] Remember in San Jose curfew. We're gonna miss the [ __ ] curfew. What are you guys doing? WE'RE GONNA MISS THE [ __ ] CURFEW. BARRY, BARRY, WE'RE not gonna make the curfew. We're This after 9/11, too. We got all the security. This is that with all the security. We're not going to make a curfew. Then you go, we go, we're going to overtime. We win 43. So now we we tap and we go in this in the room and and guys are getting undressed. we kind of know we have to hurry and uh and Stevie goes, "Hey guys, stop a second and and so we all stop."

2:03:32 He goes, "Listen, this is all we lost last year. We can't blow leads anymore from now on. If we're up, it's over. If we're up in the third, we got to [ __ ] all dig in. It's over." And all you can hear in the hallway in San Jose, they were like, "You can hear a meeting. A [ __ ] meeting. A [ __ ] MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO miss a curfew." And Steve go, "Oh fuck."

2:03:55 He just wanted out of he wouldn't he wouldn't face Stevie though. He's like on the other But he's yelling. So we And we're all laughing while Stevie is trying to talk to us.

2:04:04 So you guys coached that team? Yeah. He did though. Scotty's the best coach, bench coach I've ever ever seen.

2:04:13 Just Yeah. Dive into that cuz we've had guys talk about it before. He just like knew who to how to manipulate whatever they were doing or

2:04:20 like he didn't talk to guys. He only talked to Datsuk who didn't speak English that year. So it was the funniest thing cuz he'd on purpose you'd be coming off the ice and after practice he'd be, "So you like it here, Pavl?" And Pav Yeah. Yeah. And we'd all laugh. We'd walk by and and God's like, "He's [ __ ] talking to one guy doesn't speak English, you know. He wouldn't talk to anybody. It was It was awesome. It

2:04:42 was ridiculous." He was like, "Why? What is going on right now?" But it was kind of funny. And Stevie said he's talked to my kids more than me. He had been there for 15 years or whatever like he had all the guys had these stories but he he he just knew who how to give you a role without talking you know some will say that's your role but with Scott people will say well that was a great team but he still he didn't do like like I'll give you I remember there was a game where where Drapes Chris Draper that year he had 20 goals but he was the grind line it was you know And he never put him on the power play. And you were gonna say, well, you got all the great players, you know, so he had to figure it out. And but he made sure everybody got enough ice time to feel important on the team and you all felt you had your role. But I do remember there was a game we're up, let's say 52 and Drapes got two goals

2:05:38 and we're all there's a commercial. Remember the it was those days the commercial were starting to like so there's five minutes left. We have a power play and he's he's on the ice. He's drinking. We're like, Drapes, you got to go get your hat-tick. And Scott, he's like, we're going like this. And then it's time to go back. And we're like, Steve, the guys, we want Drapes to go get his hat-tick. Scotty goes, get the [ __ ] off the ice. You own the PK. That's it. So, it was like his message like no

2:06:08 you never get on a power play. This team, it's Hall, it's Shannon. Like, those are my part. And he like basically his message. If we're up 5'2, I'm not putting [ __ ] Robbit on the PK, right?

2:06:20 You know that. So, it was kind of interesting to me because that was the first time I'd ever seen that. It was like okay

2:06:26 that's not your role. It'll never be your role for me to win the cup. You're poor D. We're all laughing.

2:06:33 The whole team, it was like Rudy handing out. We wanted him to get his sad trick, but never got he never went out there.

2:06:40 That was [ __ ] awesome. Um uh like what were you even intimidated by Eisermanman just because he was so stoic? Like what?

2:06:47 No, Steviey's funny. I don't know if you you know he's got a great sense of humor. He's got great oneliners and so I sat next to him in the room. He's awesome.

2:06:57 Once the game was over and you were on the bus and like you won like he was able to then like

2:07:01 well even during the game he would make fun of himself. He didn't speak loud in the room, but when he got up or he said something, it was

2:07:09 he was like that was his team. It wasn't even close. He was he was the leader, but he's really funny.

2:07:16 Ste is really he's got like most hockey player, but he's got a great little oneliner.

2:07:21 We'd love to get him on at some point. I don't know. He's too serious now. Now he's really serious though.

2:07:27 Yeah. I try We try to joke. I got to loosen him up. I try to loosen him up on TNT a little bit.

2:07:32 He doesn't like that. No, it's my hates my guts. We never really talked about your uh like your relationship with me when you played in New York. Like you you're so good at describing these these legends like he he must have been a fun guy to be around. Always like to go out after games, right? And

2:07:47 yeah, he he he's probably one of the best leader. Like I I use him like you know you think of corporation or something a leader like he what surprised me though he was never mad you know like he was the most positive guy I've ever seen in a room like he was he was awesome like cuz I live in the city so I would drive with him or Kevin Low and these guys were nuts they just they want to win everything like even in the car they would race like they were nuts and so but but Mass like he he was the king of New York I mean he [ __ ] He said, "We're going to win." And he won.

2:08:23 And but I remember in the room, you either were part of Mess's team or you were out. So if you didn't complain, you know, there's guys like wines on the bench or something. As long as you played hard, you were part of his team. But if you complain, you cheated the game or something, you he didn't say it, he didn't do anything about it, but the way he treated people, you you were like, "This guy's not on the team."

2:08:49 You could tell. You could tell next thing you know it was traded or something. It was out.

2:08:55 But you felt if you worked hard, you were honest. You were on Mess's team and it was

2:09:01 it was unreal. But he just was always positive. The only thing that was hard is he changed skates every period. So you couldn't get your skate sharpen. You ever hear those stories like Yeah, I heard he was

2:09:10 he would change the rivets. He would change the blades on his skate. Like he really

2:09:15 But he's the greatest skate in the game. So he would he would take his skates off after warm up and he would line them up and he would make a mark on the front and he go to trainer he he'd have to take the the whole blade out, drill new holes and reset his blades. And he did that almost every game. And in those days he was the only guy I' ever seen that would wear a new pair every day, you know,

2:09:40 right out of the box. Right out of the box. In 199 This is like 9695. Those were unbelievable.

2:09:48 But he was so positive like in the room you were if you were in his group, you were in his group like and he there was an aura about him. He just believeing to winning. It was [ __ ]

2:09:59 But then he was a little bit older then, but you kind of knew he was going to pay any price to win. I do remember a story where I was in in the room and we're down I think two nothing. We're playing really good. He goes, "We we got them boys. We got them boys." And he goes, "Uh, I got one." And you're like, "Oh, fuck." He just said, "I got one." You You knew he was going to get a goal. He's Mark Messi. And then he [ __ ] reached over. He goes, "Lucky, you got one. You got one." I'm like, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, I got one." I'm [ __ ] crap in my pants. I go, "I got one." Mark Messi, I know he's going to get a goal. It was a [ __ ] race. I shot everything I could.

2:10:40 I did. I I actually pass it from the corner. He hit a stick and went in. I'm like, I got mine.

2:10:46 Did you get No, I got the other one. Were you moving pressure like Mark Messi tells you I got one? You're like, he's getting one. I was never felt that much pressure in my life. I'll get a

2:11:02 game. You're like, "Hey, I had yours too first." I didn't even say to like Actually, Stolie was just telling me out there about your goal scoring. He's like, "He didn't have the hardest shot. You would tell him like, "I just try to get it off my stick as quick as possible and hit the net." Hit the net.

2:11:17 Yeah, that's all it is. I just shot as quick as I could. Everything. Most goals you miss your shot or hit something. And if you should because the guy the Giru had taught me like he would line up a 100 pucks in a corner and just he wouldn't snap and you would just

2:11:34 they kept coming. You had no time to to set. And we'd practice. You had to to to aim. We'd split the net in half.

2:11:43 That half or that half. But you can't miss the net or you had to do 10 push-ups, a 100 bucks. [ __ ] You didn't want to miss. Yeah,

2:11:50 that was hard. Yeah. And just hit the net. We did that every day. But you you split a net in half,

2:11:56 but you couldn't miss a net. So if you never miss a net, it's like Greg says, you give yourself a chance, you know.

2:12:02 Yeah. Percentage game. So, so, so then when I got in the NHL, everyone timer was just as quick as I like, like I it never sat on my stick.

2:12:11 I was just going to say cuz the goalies are so good. If they see it, they're going to save it.

2:12:14 Especially Yeah. There they come they come, but a lot of time you see a guy even they they kind of take it and just that time the goalie is there.

2:12:23 Yep. Yeah. It's maybe they want to have it on their stick a little longer, you know, like Yeah. Take a look at me.

2:12:28 Well, guys shoot different today with the sticks. Yeah. Um, we we kind of went back to talk about mess, but winning that Stanley Cup, like that run, like I mean, what what do you what sticks out the most like the celebration? Like what was it? What was your experience?

2:12:42 Did you have relief that you got a cup? Yeah. Yeah. What was cool is like we knew we were the best team. So when when it started, I started collecting [ __ ] right away from day one. I'd never done that in my career, but every round, every time I could get something, I would collect it. So, so I was hoping it was going to happen, but then we were down two nothing against Vancouver in the first series

2:13:05 right in there. Yeah, that's right. I was And then and then people threw a Dominic Hassik jersey on the ice and I remember we go that that was Steviey's second speech was uh we were down to nothing and Stevie just

2:13:19 was it on the plane or something? No, it was in in Vancouver. He said, "Hey guys, he let's let's I remember it was like let's just calm down." He goes, "We know what it takes to win. We're just going to go out there, play our game. We'll win tonight, and then we're going to move on." I think that's what he said. So then that that's the game. Clutch led that. It was a It was a 1-1 game

2:13:42 in the third, right? It was in the second. Okay. And we made it 2-1 and we won 2-1

2:13:49 that game. Wow. And then the next game, I think it was 52 or something. Then then we won in four. the next series against uh St. Louis, it wasn't close. Then it was Colorado. That's when No, those two teams.

2:14:04 Was that when you did you guys go to game seven with them that year when it was it was 7 or 71?

2:14:10 71 or 7. Well, I went to pick up that puck. I'll never forget that was game that was six.

2:14:15 I thought that was game. No, no, no, no. So, so we were down 32 and the game six was in Colorado. That's that's Steviey's third speech. He said that's what he said before the game. We're we're stretching you and stretch. He goes, "Let's just take it easy." He goes, "Listen, we're not here to to win." He says, "We're we're just going to play tonight. We're going to win tonight." He goes, "We're not going to celebrate. We'll win game seven. We're just going to move on and we'll go. We're here to win the cup." That's what he said before game six. But he said in a calming way that you just knew he was right. And that's the game that in the morning skate I think Bob Hartley asked for a Dominic Hassk stick or he asked at sometime he asked for a Dominic Hassac stick and his blade was too thick and uh but you know you you kind of measure you didn't really know but they knew he had given him a stick so they

2:15:19 shaved his blade to be legal and they called Dominic Hass sticking Yeah, they they they but but Dominic gave it for his kid. They said for his kid.

2:15:32 So they try to act like, "Hey, give me a signature. I really want when you're sick." But really, they were trying to see.

2:15:36 That's [ __ ] [ __ ] though. But you got Hey, you guys got ahead of it. Yeah. So So But I remember Dom was like, "Fucking be he's so happy. He knows we got him and we got to pay."

2:15:47 Oh, once they asked for the check. Yeah. They they [ __ ] see you almost threw it at them. He was so happy, but he [ __ ] he was passed cuz he knew

2:15:55 that is [ __ ] gamesmanship. Did you guys score on that power play? I think so. It's not too long after that Patrick went like this and the puck went in and Sergey put it in.

2:16:05 Yeah. Wow. And then I think we won 32 and then game seven we were up 4-1 in the first. It was over or four nothing, whatever.

2:16:13 Yeah. You think you guys won that one? I was I remember being so hyped for that game cuz at that time I think that that the Lemieux situation with like the all the chaos

2:16:23 but that Lemieux stuff was was over cuz remember it was but but if you were to go back and watch that that series [ __ ] that's probably some of the best hockey.

2:16:33 That's what I mean. I think just because of the history of it. It was this like new school rivalry where it was a game seven between these two teams and it was such a dud.

2:16:41 Yep. I remember the same thing. Well, it wasn't a dud. for the Hawks. We played that year in in Detroit against Colorado. We won 4-1 or 4-2. And I remember seeing Blakey after and Blakey's laughing. He goes, "Fuck, we didn't even touch the puck today." Like, remember I told you we always had the puck? He was like, "We couldn't believe it. We never touched the puck the whole game man."

2:17:06 It's crazy though because even that team, one of the greatest teams ever, 10 Hall of Famers, still down 200 in the first round, down 3-2. Western car was posing. It was It's never easy.

2:17:15 Yeah, it's never easy how good that team. And then against Carolina, we knew we were the better team, but we still lost game one. Then we went triple OT in one game.

2:17:26 That was the game I was at. Amazing. Yeah. The Larov goal. So you ended up um your last year was the year after the lockout though.

2:17:33 Yeah. So like I feel like maybe a decent amount of guys your age then they didn't come back for that next year and you knew I'm not done yet. Yeah. It's kind of funny like uh when I that that year that we had the lockout couple years prior my back was bad so my back got better

2:17:52 from not playing you know not playing and and I felt pretty good I'm like I think I could play one more year it' be fun you know then I

2:17:59 I didn't know it there was no plan yeah and ended up playing that year and it it was fun you know and it was kind of a good time not knowing I had no plan then towards in the year you're like you're starting to say I'm like a and and then I was joking because I was playing with George Peros that he ended my career. I told George the other day after George goes, "Yeah, you knew your career was over once you were playing with me." But we had fun on the bench though.

2:18:28 Sure. Then I I as I got near the end I I I started knowing like maybe January I started thinking about it. But then it was funny because then everything was fun. you know, in the room, you know, when you're a player, there's [ __ ] going on, you're not sure. But then everything was fun till the end of the year.

2:18:45 You're appreciating everything because you know it's because I'm like, "All right, this is going to be it. I I'll never get this again."

2:18:50 That was my question. So, you knew the last game of the year that year, that was your last game. And and then then the crowd got to know.

2:18:55 Yeah. A week prior, I'm like, we weren't going to make the playoffs. I said, "It'll be my last game." So, because then I knew I would fly my parents and,

2:19:04 you know, and everybody was around. So, yeah. I have to say this has been one of my favorite interviews of all time.

2:19:11 Hell of a story. You are such a funny storyteller. Luke, uh, let's do a roll back.

2:19:15 Yeah, I was roll back. Last question. Uh, when you got the call for the Hall of Fame and you want to do the funny

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2:19:41 Funny. No, I was gonna Yeah, I I did a funny job with that. Uh the Hall of Fame. Tell about the call. Who called you? Like I think it's uh

2:19:50 who does the calls now? Lanny McDonald, I believe. Was that who it was for you?

2:19:54 For me, I was working the in the Kings and I wasn't sure how it works because they don't tell you. No one calls you and say if you got name, we'll call you. You I didn't know. So, I look at my phone, it said 416. I'm like, "Oh." And and I picked it up and it it was cool because it was Pat Quinn and that was my original coach.

2:20:14 Wow. Wow. You got you punched in the eye that time. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. He didn't ask me to get

2:20:20 but I was so that that that was but the Hall of Fame was really cool. Well, for me, I think the greatest honor in my career, and I remember I called my dad, is Pat Quinn called me back a few years later and asked me to be on the selection committee.

2:20:39 Oh, wow. And I told my dad, I go, "Dad, I just want to play hockey. Now I get to pick who gets in the Hall of Fame." That's so cool.

2:20:47 Like, that's the greatest thing ever, you know? And that was, for some reason, that was like the coolest thing.

2:20:53 Wow. Are you still doing that now? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So you guys get together once a year and and you go over all the names and boom.

2:21:02 Yeah. Every is it a vote? Secret vote. And then Bobby Clark was on the comm the first time. My dad loved Bobby Clarks. I'm like Bobby Clark. I sat right next to him. Hey Bobby. Who we vote for?

2:21:14 I don't know. Bobby Clark just doesn't care. Oh yeah. I was totally peeking because

2:21:21 stole mine out too. I remember I remember in your speech you said it talking about the LA Kings, I can't wait to win a Stanley Cup with the Kings. And you guys did it what? Two years later.

2:21:30 Two years later. Yeah. That must have been incredible. It was amazing. It's cool. You when you win as a player, it's the trainers. It's your family. Obviously, the player cuz you know it it is like it's a it is really people. It's the hardest trophy. There's no doubt. You know, when you watch the playoffs, it's amazing. But when when I won the other side, what I never realized is when you're a player like a if we win, they'll show up, they'll be there. You don't realize how much work and passion's behind. So I got to appreciate that. And then the other thing that never thought or come to my mind is like there's people that had been buying season tickets like 1968, paying five grand, eight grand, and don't make a lot of money. Every year they're buying. So then when you see them, they're crying and you're like, "Oh [ __ ] they means a lot to them." So that was cool to understand that part

2:22:26 for me. And you've been a long time here. Yeah. Until they got one. Mhm. Then they get another one two years later.

2:22:32 Yeah. That was unreal. Incredible. So many good. You're a silly bastard Luke. No, you guys are great for our game. Love what you guys are doing. Like I do like you know me sometimes.

2:22:46 Okay. So I still can't get away with some of the stuff you get away with. No one can. No one can. What do you mean? No one can. Charles Bark.

2:22:54 No. Hey. Uh so we got Blakey coming up here. We're going to joke around. I remember when I signed here my last year with Ontario. Like I was trying to negotiate.

2:23:02 Yeah. I said no. I tried to negotiate like five more grand on my contract. So the [ __ ] that you guys put up with while I was here to give it to you. Yeah. Yeah, he did. He was nice. I went from 1:30 to 1:35. Like, how about 10?

2:23:16 He's like, "Never call me on a long weekend again, you [ __ ] I can get my number."

2:23:20 Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. Thank you for everything you did for me. You're a legend.

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2:25:06 And if there's one thing I could take away from that interview, it's just, you know, lie to your coaches so you can get power play time.

2:25:11 Yeah, that's it. Just lie to them. Lie to their face. Tell them that you played the half wall. Tell them you play behind the net. Tell them you'll play netfront and you'll get out there with the best players and you'll pad the stats and you'll make a shitload of money. And the only other thing I wanted to bring up before we throw it to RA's world boys is this battle between Michael Bubé and Frank Saravelli is top-notch entertainment right now.

2:25:34 They are I'm wondering though, so for anyone who doesn't know, Michael Pupé, we got to get him back on. I liked interview with him. Huge Conucks fan. He went at Frank, I don't know what show he was on saying that if Frank Saravali is a Conucks insider, the movie The 40-year-old Virgin is about a porn star. I might have been messing up that quote a little bit, but that was it was a shot. Biz, you're muted, buddy. You're muted. Um, so it was a shot at Frank Saraveal saying he doesn't know anything about the Conucks.

2:26:07 Shot at Steve Carell, too. I know. I know. Seriously. um the back with the the chest waxing scene all time. And then Sarah came back apparently did some research and said this is coming from a guy who named one of his children. Now when I'm reading his response I'm like he's bringing his kids into this before I even finished it. I'm like what's going on here? Who named one of his children after the old one of the most overpaid players in the league. So then I'm wondering, all right, I didn't even think it was Person because he's been pretty good this year. I wasn't thinking EP 40, but apparently Bublé's son is named Elias. Do we have that correct? Is that now?

2:26:48 Yeah, he's and and I guess Bubé fired back cuz he's been following um Elias Patterson since he played in Sweden and he's been a huge fan of him. So that's why he named his kid that. So

2:26:58 So that's what I was wondering. So people came out originally and said, "Oh, nice try, Frank. um his son was born the year before Patterson was even drafted. So I was like, "Oh, maybe he got it wrong." But then Boué did write like things that made it sound like he did name him after him. Is that true? Was he

2:27:14 maybe trolling him back? I don't know. But I think that hopefully at some point we're able to get to the bottom of it. Maybe we get them both on have hash it out. We kind of got the bloods and the crips with the the bandanas tied and and

2:27:27 yeah, just you know, we've we've resolved our issues. But just a like that would that would be the last battle I would have considered going into the holidays especially with the holiday albums

2:27:37 you and Tarantino me and Tarantino's up there. So um I just wanted to bring that one up and hopefully those guys can resolve it cuz uh we want to get Bubé on singing those Christmas albums.

2:27:47 Yeah, seriously bring us RA. Hello everybody and welcome to R's World here in the Spitting Chicklets podcast. What's going on boys? How's that? Thanks. Since the last time we saw each other,

2:28:08 thanks RA. Not much. Not much, huh? We heard your injury today. Yeah, just the uh Yeah, sciatica's had me on on the the DL the last couple weeks. Been acting up a little bit. Plus, I got uh arthritis. That's when you know you're getting old. I get in the middle double whammy right now with you know. So,

2:28:24 you got to get the bands out, RA. Like the band work to activate your glutes. I think just start with are you walking already?

2:28:30 Well, I it's I usually do but I I it's tough right now cuz I got to like I got to walk like Yoda. I got to like walk hunched over and then that like tightens up the the top part of my back. It's just kind of you know roller already.

2:28:42 Uh I do not but I got a foam roller. You got to get a little He had one. He made it into a bong.

2:28:49 You're like that's not what that's for, sir. He's like no but smoking the styrofoam makes you more high. extra buzz. Biz, you just mentioned Aussie Wise Blat. That was actually the fifth time that two Predators got their first NHL career goal in the same game. Pretty wild stat. Yeah, the last time Col buddy Colin Blackwell and Pekka Renee back in uh January of uh 2020. Interesting little stat.

2:29:13 Pa Renee scored a goal in the same g his first NHL goal the same game as another guy.

2:29:18 Yeah, it was Colin Blackwell. Yeah. Yeah. Hilarious. Yeah, absolutely, bud. Absolutely.

2:29:23 Uh yeah. How was how was you guys uh turkey? I know you might have discussed a little while ago. Anything exciting or you

2:29:28 I flew to TNT. I didn't do [ __ ] off for for Thanksgiving. Did they give you turkey on the plane at least Biz?

2:29:34 Nope. No, I had meatballs with ricotta cheese. Not bad. Not bad, Biz. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Um, actually, I want to talk about uh well, the Bruins. I haven't really gone off on them since I've been doing this world, but I want to talk about Mark Castle. Man, this guy has been an absolute stud. I know people thought he was the throwing back of the uh Lenus Almark there when they picked up Corposal, but this guy, man, 58.3 uh% of the faceoff circle. I mean, third, fourth line, whatever line he's on. That's pretty damn good for a bottom six guy. Four goals, four assists, but he plays Bruins hockey, man. I know they're outside the playoffs last right now.

2:30:10 They lost to Detroit. They went from second in the Atlantic to 11th in the conference. That's how tight the Atlantic Conference is right now. Uh sorry, the Eastern Conference. Pretty wild. But I don't know. I just like the the way he plays his game. He'll he'll stick up for his teammates, chips in with the odd goal, but like I said, that face off percentage, he just personifies what the bees have been doing. I know we've talked about Zidor off as well, but they're just kind of treading water biz. I just kind of hope they can just like stay there, not fall too far behind. Missing pasta, missing Makavoy, you know, it's it's tough to keep winning games or you're missing you.

2:30:40 Well, G said that he could see him falling off a cliff here and then they scored two goals to make it three. It was three nothing. G said I'm they're going to fall off a cliff. They got two goals and then he's like, I'm a complete [ __ ] mush, but they ended up losing that game 5-4 to a a division rival in the in the Red Wings. I don't know. I I don't see them being able to sustain what they've done so far this year, but like you said, at least like you fans have something to cheer for in a sense of they're bringing it every night. They're playing physical.

2:31:08 They're playing Bruins hockey and and they're, you know, they're they're setting the tone for for hopefully, you know, to to eventually get back into to dominant situation. Now, Fraser Mitten's been playing pretty solid for them. They got to be crazy happy with that trade and what they've been a what they were able to turn over Carlo for. But yeah, I I think that they have between Zidorov, Jano, and Castelic, one of the tougher teams in the league where I mean, we talk about the lack of toughness that some teams have. They could definitely use one of those guys.

2:31:37 And Swayman's been unreal. I know he kind of got uh dummy a little bit last night, but in November 10 starts in November went 8-2 uh 206 uh goals against with a 935 save percentage. He's been playing out of his mind. I mean, he's a huge reason why they are, you know, in the play well just outside the playoffs right now. Hopefully, they just can rope a dope and hang in there and get a spot. But that fight Castlick and Cider, I was surprised Cider jumped in jumped in there with him, but man, he ended up [ __ ] getting fed a few punches, man. That was

2:32:04 He had no say. He he I think he said after like I didn't even really have an option at that point. Um like his glove was on for a while and then you know that that I give Cider credit too but that's not we talked already on Monday's show about Detroit can't love seeing that. Like if Detroit could have one of Castick or Jano not at the contract Shano's on I don't think but one of those guys that could just at least toughen their team up a little bit maybe Cider doesn't have to go there. But also, I forgot to say Monday, like if Cider's going to be a true one, which I think he's well on his way to being,

2:32:38 that's what Chris Pronger did. That's what Scott Stevens did. That's what that's what some of these animals actually were willing to do. And I don't think Rob Blake was as dirty or fought like Chris Pronger, but he was willing to stand in there with guys. So, you know what? It just shows your team and your fan base like I am not just one of these new offensive number ones. Like I'm a true penalty kill power play in your face prick in front of the net number one well-rounded defenseman.

2:33:05 Yeah. Like Kale Mar and and Quinn Hughes don't have to do that but they're also not laying the massive hits and like watch Mo Cider. He's cross-checking guys in front of the net all game long like those other guys aren't doing that as well

2:33:17 and they're getting 100 points. He's stuck in that 45 point uh bracket there. I think he can be 50 to 60 minutes. PKPPP last minute down a goal, last minute up a goal.

2:33:31 Yeah, I was just trying to say it's a different type of number one defenseman that they have. And I, like you said, I love the fact that he answered the bell there and fought cuz, you know, it's not going to be the last time he's going to have to do it, especially the way he plays.

2:33:43 I don't think Pro fought much, but I see him as a as a Petraelo. That to me is is what he could be. An unreal stick shut down guy. He's long. He's he's nasty. He's mean. I mean, was it Pro a few years back where he ended up [ __ ] giving it to Dry Cidle or was it the other way around?

2:34:00 He he like legit Juan Sodto swung at his wrist. Yeah. Got a one hand. Yeah. Just being a absolute piece of [ __ ] out there. But I think that if Cider is going to be stuck in that 45, 50 point range as a Dmen and plays the way he plays, we talked about it last pod, get some boxing lessons. Keep fight five, six, seven times a year just to let everybody know, hey, if you want to [ __ ] if you want to drop him, I'm right here waiting for you, [ __ ] And even if it like he he should be able to fight a guy like Castle toe to toe.

2:34:34 He should be I know, but just such a bad tradeoff. Like Yeah, I know it's a bad trade-off, but he should be able Like that's for his size. Yes, you should be able to go toe-to-toe with him if especially if you want to play the way that he plays,

2:34:49 right? Yep. Yeah. You guys just mentioned a beef between player coach Marty and Bennington. Pretty funny stuff. But I want to go back to Sarah Valley and Boué. Um yeah, basically Bouubé said if he's a connection side of 40-year-old Virgin was a porn star. But before that, what he did say like, "Oh, he's he's probably a good guy." He didn't like he didn't really like talk too much [ __ ] about him. And then Frank said, "I found it very odd. I guess in the end I would expect nothing less of someone who was named one of his children after perhaps the NHL's most overpaid player which is kind of weird like a ricochet shot at at Pettison who who had nothing to do with anything and and that wasn't even true cuz Boué he one of the uh Instagram comments he wrote I got to give Frank his due it's the first time he's been right about anything Conucks and then he said uh Frank's right uh I was a fan of

2:35:33 Petey before he got drafted used to watch him play while he was in Sweden uh was thrilled when the Canucks drafted him so I don't know if he was being a wise athlete At least that seems like

2:35:42 like he he just named him Elias and it just so happens that he ended up coming to play there. Is that what you're saying?

2:35:47 No, I was going to say it seems like he already was watching him. Yes, that's what I said earlier. I just thought maybe like cuz we don't know. We don't know like the the actual deep roots deep roots of what's going on. Maybe he was just being condescending as if though you actually think I named my kid after him.

2:36:05 Merles is actually Michael Boué. He's been watching all these young Swedes. No [ __ ]

2:36:11 You're right. Merles invented singing, so it's fair. And we know sarcasm in the internet are like oil and water. You can't really tell when someone's being sarcastic.

2:36:18 That's the problem. Uh but it reminded me of some other me media verse talent beef. Uh here in Boston with Will Mcdana, he was a great football passed away a few years ago. Yeah. He was he had an argument with one of the Patriots, Raymond Claybornne in the room and like the Patriot bumped into him and he's like, "Hey," he's like, "What are you doing?" Like they started having words and Will Mcdana hit him. Boom, boom, boom. With like three shots. He knocked out one of the [ __ ] Patriots like with three punches in the locker room like 40 years ago. You ever hear that story, Yando? About what McDonald Shawn Mcdana's father, he was uh, you know, great football reporter, a really pioneer reporter. Yeah. He ended up punching out a [ __ ] one of the Patriots on the locker room, which is pretty wild.

2:36:54 And then what you probably remember this one, Jim Everett and Jim Rome on the show he had on ESPN.

2:36:59 Call me Chris one more time. Yeah, people thought that that was rehearsed, too. I mean, yeah. Call him Chris. His name Jim Everett. Chris Ever of course is the the tennis player and I mean he pissed him off. He he didn't really like punch him. He just kind of ragdalled him a little bit.

2:37:13 He flipped the t he flipped the table on him. Yeah. On that what was that that show? What was that name of that show back in the day? The gym

2:37:19 Jim Rome is burning. Yeah. What he's still doing it too while out in California. He's got like a show every day. But uh because I want to ask you are the Jets are they going to be able to hold serve until Hellbuck gets back? I know he's due back relatively soon but they've lost five or six only scored 13 goals. Seven points back a mini. Uh two back from the wild card. They're not going to make a move for a goalie. I don't think they really need to, but I don't know. It's it it seems like they've I don't know. Lost lost a huge obviously it's a huge thing when you lose a goalie like that caliber, but you think they're going to slip too far where they're not going to be able to get back on the race.

2:37:50 I don't know. It's looking that way right now. It's crazy when you're so used to the the tendencies of playing with a guy in net like the way like you know the way he plays the puck the what angles you give up when when you're penalty killing and just the fact like look at his [ __ ] numbers throughout the regular season since he's been healthy and he's also the guy who gets the net you know 65 times a year. So um I don't know I it's it's not good right now. The offense has went a little bit dry. Uh but yeah, it's it's it's that's such guys with a central division, you can't go you can't go cold for too long or you're going to find yourself outside the playoffs looking

2:38:26 fans are uh Jets fans are are pretty pissed off like they need a second line center in the worst way. Um they lost Eers and then I think like Taves look good but now they're like he he's playing like above where he should be playing. Some people are saying like our windows kind of like already done it feels like. So, yeah. All right. Scary times for the Jets right now. T

2:38:49 tough year for Taves to come back to with this uh you know the cra schedule before Olympics. Like he hasn't played in how many years. Like

2:38:58 obviously the break will help him out. Uh but yeah, they they need to figure it out. But it's not even figuring it out, right? It's just waiting till your goalie gets back and trying to win some games.

2:39:09 Uh interesting stat, too. Uh they've had a goal fewer per game over the last 12 games compared to their first 12. So, in other words, you know, that's a that's a huge drop off and you can't blame that on a goalie, too. You know what I mean? That's not that's not Hellbox's fault. Yeah. Just 13 goals over the last six games. So, uh another thing, too, that the helmets uh helmets have been a big talk this week. Unusual this time of year. Uh Bill Daly said the league was going to be sending out a memo to remind teams that helmets are mandatory in warm-ups for all players who enter the NHL beginning with the 201920 season or later. Uh cuz the Suns, they were the first ones to do it. They were in Vegas.

2:39:43 I guess they had lost their last six times out there. They're out team dinner. They decided to go without the buckets and warm-ups. They end up winning 4-3 in a shootout. Uh and San Jose did the same thing. Five straight losses. They were in Vegas. And uh Will Smith said there was no particular motivation. It was just a team decision at a dinner Saturday night in Vegas. So, I think the guys were pretty pretty set to do it. They went out. They didn't end up winning the game, but uh and then the next game the Devils, they wore the hats for Dillies 1000. We just mentioned that a few minutes ago. So I I think the fine is I think I asked Washinski. He said 5,000 per player, 25 per team. Does that sound right, Keith?

2:40:16 Do they just eat the fines? Like knowing that when they do it that they're going to each have to pay that much money.

2:40:22 I would hope if you get the win like like Ari said, if the team's on a skid and then you go out and get the win and it change the juju, the owner should just drop off a check and say, "There you go."

2:40:31 Yeah. Yeah. It all started when when when I was on the Oilers when Cory Potter stepped on Hollyy's face.

2:40:38 Oh yeah. The picture of that I've showed you guys is the insane the worst thing. Like it was scary as [ __ ] I think he got 40 stitches down his forehead. Um, and that was kind of the beginning of the discussion. Like maybe we need helups helmets in warm-ups. But god was it cool to have no helmet on in warm-ups. What a feeling. Talk about feeling like you're at the top of your profession. NHL hockey buzzing around.

2:41:03 Wind in your hair. My hair's still not moving. I damn I I miss those days. Uh also congrats to uh David Pon. Uh his 1200th game Tuesday in Montreal. Make it even more special. It was in Montreal. He's a Quebec guy. So congrats to David Pon, man. He's a hell of a player. Been doing it for a long time. But boy, I want to ask you 800th point, too, right?

2:41:24 Or recently or something like that. But I was that that's an amazing career, man.

2:41:29 He's a gamer. Yeah. Can be a piece of [ __ ] Check it out. Guy could be wrong. Not good at the internet.

2:41:34 Yeah. Just like uh how many guys uh undrafted and ended up playing a thousand games.

2:41:39 How about one of them's Kunit? Yeah. R sent me. Ever heard of this guy? Just a picture of Adam Oats

2:41:48 during the show. Yeah, that was hilarious. Pon has 797 points. So, he's going to get 800

2:41:55 plus 110 playoff games. Wait, I mean, sorry, Keith. I want to go to to you for this one. What do you think is more impressive? This actually came from my buddy PK. Uh, Crosby, Marshon, Malcol, and Ovie averaging a point per game at their age or Celibbrini, Baddison, and Smith averaging a point per game at at their age. What's more impressive, do you think?

2:42:16 Wow, that's a great question. Uh, probably I'd say the old guys, just the fact that they've done it this long. Um, if it was the end of the season and all those young guys still were a point a game, then maybe I might switch my answer. But I think when the the old guys who have been doing it for, you know, 20 years, almost 20 years with Marchie, like that's so impressive to me, just the the the commitment that they put in in the summertimes and, you know, obviously every day to their craft. So, probably the older guys.

2:42:46 You just said, all right, quickly, you just said, I forgot to bring this up. You said PK. Okay. Made me think of PK Suban who put out a picture having dinner with Andre Marov.

2:42:56 Marov. Yeah, dude. I had like forgot about Andre Marov. He was so disgusting. Nasty hockey. That guy was the na I thought he was so nasty playing against him. His stick skills, his shot, his passing on the power play, like just a name you kind of forget about. Oh my god. I Canadians fans all know that guy was sick. Wasn't he ripping darts in the locker room, too? Or was that the other day? Said they didn't want to pay him at the time. I think Army was saying like they didn't

2:43:27 No, I sent I sent a text to like a a breakdown. Um I'm going to pull it up right now. just the fact that at the time um Berseron or Bers Mark Bersan was the GM

2:43:40 and they were having contract battles and I guess that uh um he represented himself

2:43:45 so he didn't have an agent and he didn't feel like they were offering them what he was worth and they were battling and then he just hung him up and uh here's the here is it right here this is from um Habs on Reddit back in uh 2017 the Habs GM Mark Bersan uh decided to play hard ball with Andre Marov of during contract negotiations. I didn't even know this is how it all ended. Burjan then proceeded to well this is kind of a shot at eran then proceeded to sign Carlner for 5 years times uh 20 uh 5year $23 million deal. Marov would go on to end his 17-year NHL career at 990 games.

2:44:22 So never got a thousand. All of them with the Habs. He would have become the first Canadians player to reach the illustrious 1,00 game milestone. all with the franchises. All with the franchise since Larry Robinson uh 1986 and Bob Gayy 1987. So that just

2:44:40 and and also he was one point away from becoming second alltime points among defenseman in Habs history behind Larry Robinson.

2:44:47 He was sick. Yeah. years uh 46 points, 49 points, 58 points, 64 points and then like he was injured 2010 111 I guess 112 and then he went back 30 and 48 games 43 50 points it and then he went I didn't even realize he went to the KHL and they won it all um his first year out of Montreal. So that guy I I just a guy I forgot about

2:45:13 47 points back then too was like 80 now maybe 75 47 points. 47 points adjusted for inflation as far as

2:45:23 47 points in ' 05 06. I'm I'm giving you 58 now. Yeah. Oh, really? I would have given you 12 more.

2:45:30 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Definitely an unusual way for a guy to leave the NHL. But wait, going back to that question, what's more impressive? Do you think it's harder for old guys because of the wear and tear or is it tougher for the young guys given the inexperience in the league?

2:45:41 I don't even think that question's close. I think it's the old guys. old guy, especially with the speed of the NHL. I would say that the progression of how fast the league is over the last 15 years has accelerated faster than any point in in the history of the game. Like that's every single person you talk to and you're like, "Oh, what's the what's the biggest difference?" It's like skating, skating, skating. These guys are [ __ ] zipping up and down the ice. And the fact that Sid and some of these older guys are still like Sid's like not only keeping up, he's dominating. What do you get?

2:46:13 Pace for 50 goals. Yeah, he got his 18th the other night. Just remarkable. He had his classic knee drop snipe. Um it's still he's so good at going to the right hard areas and like just touching like little tip here, a little tip there. Open the blade there. Boom. So he just has so much arsenal in his bag.

2:46:30 What does he got? Five goals in three games with playing with Hazy. I know. Don't let Hazy get hot.

2:46:36 Don't let Hazy boy. Don't let Hazy play with Sid. Sign sign an extension there.

2:46:41 Break away he had the other night. That was nice. Oh yeah, that was nice. Right to the backhand. What do they call him? Not the great one. The don't they call Don't they call him something? Not

2:46:51 the best one. The best one. The best one. But uh Sid Sid had two against Philly. Like that guy has been torturing Philly for 20 [ __ ] seasons. And I remember our rookie year like they would boo him every time he touched the puck. That was the game he got his teeth knocked out, scored the OT winner, and then it's just never stopped. He had at one night he had six points against him, if not seven at home. Like, he's just owned that city.

2:47:15 Hey, how about this one? Uh, I saw a stat that um in that building they're in now. It used to be called the Wells Fargo. I don't know what it's called now.

2:47:23 Still is, I think, or I thought it was Wakovia. Maybe they changed it to Wakovia. that he has the like I think he's like around the 35th to 30 most points in that building.

2:47:35 No way. Yes, buddy. Like guys, unreal stat. That is [ __ ] insane, buddy. I don't know.

2:47:41 He's ahead of he's ahead of like Wayne Simmons or someone like that's insane. Yeah. Like I I would imagine Hartull's up there, but

2:47:49 I mean what does he play four times a year there and then he's had a bunch of playoff series,

2:47:54 but owns that organization which is owns them. owns them. I feel like Gino's getting kind of overlooked a little bit because, you know, all these guys at a point per game, but he's got, you know, 26 points in 25 games as well, man. He's been playing at a ridiculously high level. Wild number one, too.

2:48:08 I feel like when you know it's your last year, like you just he wants to he wants to leave his mark, right? He he wants to leave it all on the table and and empty the tank. So, I heard he had a huge offseason training and and I mean, no surprise that he's coming in doing what he's doing. And it would be awesome to see that Pittsburgh group make playoffs. I would be so fired up to see him in there. And the type of group where you got Sid leading you, man, you never know with how tight that that gets tighter than a nuns [ __ ] So it's not like that the

2:48:38 Hey now. We Hey now. Hey now. Um Oh, go ahead. No, I'm done. Jinx, buy me some coke. Uh today in NHL history in 1968, uh Gordy How became the first player to score 700 goals. Uh seven players have done it since then. Uh Marcel Dion, uh Brett Hull, Mike Gardner Ovuchkin Espazito Yager and Gretzky. Uh how is also the first to 800 goals and just two guys have joined him in that rare fight since uh Ovet Ovuchetkin and Gretzky. And also on this date in NHL history in 1909, the oldest and most historic franchise in the NHL, the Montreal Canadians was founded. Uh they were a charter member of the National Hockey Association which was the precursor to the NHL. Uh that lasted for eight seasons. They won a Stanley Cup there, but there was only three teams in the league when they won it. Uh it originally started with four, the Montreal Wanderers of the other team.

2:49:30 And the arena burned down like six games into the season. So that the team had to be suspended. So it was the Ottawa Senators, the OG Senators, the Toronto Arenas, and the Canadians. And I saw they only had three teams. And then uh 1924, the NHL started. So that was like the precursor to the NHL. So hey, shout out to the Canadians, man. Huh?

2:49:48 They should have had that Italian construction crew come over. They would have rebuilt that rink in a week.

2:49:53 They would have just finished it now. 100 years later, the Laval Canadians, they'd be playing out of [ __ ] Laval. Godamn it.

2:50:03 All right. Now, the the main lecture at hand, Biz, there will be blood. Quinton Tarantino, Paul Dano. Uh, weird thing. I don't know why he took such a a shot at Paul Dano. I mean, the guy's a great actor. He hasn't been nominated for Academy Award, but he's done some stellar work. Little Miss Sunshine, uh, Loopa, Prisoners, 12 Years a Slave, Love and Mercy. He was actually in the Sopranos, too, back in the one of the early seasons. He Yeah, he was one of, uh, Meadow's friends. Yeah, he had that stupid haircut in the glasses. Yeah, he's OG.

2:50:30 He's always got a stupid haircut, but Yeah, I guess that's true. What did you make of it, RA? Like I like where do you put Tarantino as far as directors too all time? Yeah, I I mean if I know Mount Rushmore and things played out, but yeah, he's definitely up there on my list. I I got him top 10.

2:50:45 Oh, easily. Top five. Yeah, top five. I mean, you know, Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, the Kill Bills, Once Upon a Time. Yeah, Once Upon a Time at Hollywood. I mean, he's done some stellar work, man. Yeah, he's a little bit of a weirdo. He He says some funny things. Oh, Bis, did you watch that clip I sent you last night when he he was uh doing the interview? He was the only white guy there. And when he's around black people, he starts talking like thinks he's black. It's like wicked cringey. Like even Sam Jackson looked like he was want to do the the Homer Simpson like fade into the bush thing.

2:51:14 He It's wicked cringey, man. Yeah, he's just I'll take a look at it after this. I didn't I didn't see that.

2:51:20 You know what movie he was in already? Have you ever seen Taking Lives with Angelina Jolie?

2:51:26 No, I remember. It's like old early 2000s, but it was pretty good. It was creepy as [ __ ] Paul

2:51:32 Paul Dano was Oh, he was creepy, dude. Yeah, he plays a good creep. He does play a good creep. He was in the Batman, too. Played the Riddler in that one as well. But yeah, Bis Tarantino, the Cohen brothers, Scoresi, th those come to come to mind right away. No doubt about that.

2:51:49 I I found it odd too that a director would take a shot at an actor like that. Just like that.

2:51:54 That's got to be something. That's that's such a full paw. No. Yeah. Yeah. It's not not something you usually see, but he he says some some wacky stuff. He's he's been on this like, "Oh, I'm only going to make 10 movies." Supposedly, he's going to make one more movie. I don't know why you would limit yourself to making just 10 movies, but I don't know. See what happens. But his be uh best movies of the 21st century. I was surprised he had Blackhawk Down as his number one. I mean, it's a great movie. I believe Ridley Scott directed it. Like, you know, technically done. I mean, it's tough to do all that [ __ ] with all the helicopters and film all those war scenes, but I was really

2:52:26 You find it so noisy and loud. I I think I went to the theaters to watch it actually and I just remember being like, "Oh my, I have like a [ __ ] headache." and PTSD leaving here, which I'm sure was the point of bringing you in the action, but it was just so much noise the entire time.

2:52:42 Yeah, definitely loud and definitely seen that in the theater. But yeah, that that I don't know, didn't didn't see that as his number one. But as far as his list, Midnight in Paris, that was a Woody Allen movie. Sean of the Dead, a great like horror comedy. I don't know if I'd have it in my top 10. Matt Mad Max, Fury Road, the one out a few years ago. That was awesome. Uh Unsto Unstoppable. Did you see that one, Keith? The one with uh who was it? Uh, is that the

2:53:04 Oh, Pine. What's his name? Pine and uh Denzel. I think it's Denzel. They're on that train that literally

2:53:09 Oh, yeah. Yeah. They can't stop the train again. I was surprised that was there. Zodiac.

2:53:13 I think I only watched it cuz Denzel was in it. It was fine. Yeah, it's a good little action movie. Zodiac, there Will be Blood, Dunkkirk, Lost in Translation, which I like. Toy Story 3, Blackhawk Down. But yeah, he's a he's a bit of an odd duck, but also a fellow uh movie store guy. He worked at a video store for like 15 years, too. So So uh yeah, I don't know. It's just a little weird shot. Who knows? I'm sure there's a backstory there. There's always a backstory with that type of stuff. But, uh, talk about some TV shows. This is the best stuff I watched this year with, I know you mentioned a few weeks back Task with Mark Ruffalo on HBO. Um, I don't know if you saw Mayor of Easttown, the same writer who did that with uh, what's the name? Kate Winslet. Terrific show. Well, Task was unbelievable. Um, first couple episodes, they rope you right in. You you know who the the robbers are right away and

2:53:57 you're kind of watching see if they figure it out. But I thought in the middle with Did you think it was like, "All right, maybe there's a little too much going on here, but then they they kind of pulled it all together toward the end."

2:54:05 Yeah, the first episode was a little slow. Then I enjoyed it the rest of the way. I don't really remember um disliking the middle. It was a great show. I'm on there's an eight episode series. I finished five of the beast in me.

2:54:18 Claire's on it. It's phenomenal. Phenomenal show. Yeah, I've been hearing about that. I haven't I haven't started that. That one

2:54:25 I just finished uh All Her Fault. Have you seen that? No. Who's in that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's the girl from Secession.

2:54:32 And uh what's her name? Dakota Fanning's in it. Um there's somebody else that's it's [ __ ] incredible. It it that same type of things though like a lot going on and they tie it all in like towards the end. But amazing watch.

2:54:46 Where uh what's it on Netflix? Amazon. Yeah. Amazon Prime I think. Yeah. And what was wild too? The the three cops that Mark Ruffalo worked with. What? Uh the the black girl was from Africa, the the guy was from England, and the the other white cop, she was from Ireland, and they all nailed that Philly accent. That Delco accent, I think that's as tough to nail as like a Boston accent when you you know you when you're doing some actor work. But

2:55:10 that's the one that's the one Ran can do perfectly when he's doing his like Eagles fans impressions.

2:55:16 No birds. Yeah. Is he from Philadelphia? Ran is. Yeah. Yeah. Does he naturally have that accent?

2:55:23 I don't really hear it. Um, but he can like put on an Eagles die hard. Yeah. No, I've seen him do that accent cuz like like when he normally talks, I can't really like distinguish what what it is.

2:55:34 Me neither. Um, here's one for you, RA, since you're the movie guy that there's rumors circulating that Dual Lia's husband or maybe it's a fiance. They're not quite married yet. Um, is cast to be the new James Bond. So that Caleum Turner. So imagine being named

2:55:53 what? He's a stud. That guy. Oh, stud. I read on the internet that they met on a flight and it just so happens that they were reading the exact same book.

2:56:03 I think you remembered. We talked about this on the pod. Oh, we did. Okay. All right.

2:56:07 Yeah. No, I didn't remember that. Smoke more weed, Turtle. I'm not familiar with this game, but that that's probably a good idea going with the relative unknown for Bond because you don't want you don't want too big of a name because I think that could overshadow the role. Well, was was were they un was Daniel Craig an unknown? Was Sean Connory an unknown?

2:56:26 Uh Daniel Craig not an unknown. I don't he wasn't obvious I don't know if he was the A-list that he became. Uh Connory

2:56:32 was Pierce Brosman an unknown. Um I think I just crushed that argument on going.

2:56:38 And who was Oh, and then oh, Timothy Dalton. He was probably the worst one. But yeah, I don't think it's the worst idea. Sort of like what they did with Superman. But I don't know. See what happens. Are you a big blu guy, Keith? You I don't I don't

2:56:50 No, I don't watch those. I like the older ones. Boomers love [ __ ] James. I like the Pierce Brosman ones.

2:56:56 Hell yeah. Did you uh did you hear the story about Daniel Craig uh when they got a little break in filming, he like bought these like gloves that he loved wearing and he's like, I want to wear them in the scene. And the the director's like, oh, [ __ ] it. like and I guess he was being a pain in the ass. So, he ended up wearing them in the scene and that the the earlier in the movie and they'd already filmed it, the gun that he was using, it was all fingerprint based. So, they had to like go back and CGI like to make it look like it was just his hand without the gloves on. They tried to get them all back to like refilm the scenes, but the amount of time and money it was going to cost them, it was just ridiculous. So, uh, that was something that I I heard that had happened. Once again, that could be a completely false story, but I don't remember talking about the the them meeting on a flight

2:57:45 with how long ago was. They were reading the same book or something. I'm going to say they're on the same page or something.

2:57:53 It was the Monday show. It was Monday. No, it wasn't that long. No, it was a while ago.

2:57:58 No, I'm Yeah, it was probably It could have been September, October, but Okay. But, uh, I would do anything to get

2:58:06 like a sitdown interview with an actor, like a famous actor. Actually, it doesn't even have to be famous. Somebody's done a bunch of movies who has stories of director and actor beefs throughout filming.

2:58:18 Well, there was just one that was pretty uh um public, the Francis Copala and Shila Buff, and I think it was Copala's last

2:58:27 documentary. Avery talked about it, I think. Oh, yeah. Okay. Holy Yeah. Oh, yeah. The mega megalopoulos. I haven't I haven't seen that, but I I heard about that.

2:58:37 When I say want to get an actor, we have Aves. That's our guy. But I'm talking like somebody who's been in the business.

2:58:43 He just He's probably got some good ones. Yeah. Well, you just talked about a mistake they try to CG out. Going back to Tarantino and Paul Fiction, there's actually a pretty glaring error in that movie. A lot of people don't notice. Um when they when the dude comes out of the bathroom with the gun and tries, you know, shoots somebody and he misses them. Right. Right. you know, from close range. The bullet holes are actually in the wall already when uh Vince Vincent Vagger and Jules are standing there. If you look the the before the guy shoots, those bullet holes are already in the wall. If uh if you notice that little Starbucks cup in Game of Thrones,

2:59:15 yeah, in one of the Bond movies, they he wanted to wear these gloves and uh I got one more. This is This was probably the best show I probably watched all year. It's called The Pit. It was on HBO. It's dropped in January. I've never been like a huge medical drama guy. I I mean I haven't watched one since probably freaking MASH back in the day. This this show is unbelievable. It's I think was it 15 episodes and each episode is one hour set in real time. It's one shift at at a um emergency room. And uh Noah Wy, he was on ER back in the day. He's like sort of the the main doctor who runs the show.

2:59:51 Unbelievable in it. Sean Hosi was in Outside Providence uh back in the day. He was in it, too. Just the acting so good. The writing so good. Again, I'm not like medical drama not really my bag, but I pissed through this three nights in a row. I did five episodes each night. Stayed up late and I and so the acting I know people think it's like, "Oh, big deal. Tough to do." It is. It's It's tough to memorize all that [ __ ] But when you have to memorize all that medical jargon and like say that over and over, that's like a high degree of difficulty, man. That's like a tough thing to do to memorize all that all that type of lingo. But anyways, Brian Cran, you know, Brian Cranston from uh Breaking Bad, his daughter's actually on it. Have Have any of you guys seen any of it? The pit?

3:00:28 No. No, never even heard of it. Yeah. Yeah. It's again, I come out back in January, dude. Unbelievable show. Season 2's coming out in January. Just uh Yeah. I mean, it's roller coaster of emotions. One minute you're laughing your ass off and 5 minutes later you're balling your eyes out. So, definitely recommend that. Thought it was real good. Uh one last one, too. A Netflix limited series called Death by Lightning. Uh was about the assassination of President James Garfield and the guy who offs him. I knew nothing about this. History is not my biggest thing, but it was it was Dynamite. Four episodes, the cast unbelievable. Michael Shannon, um, Matthew McFeden, I don't think I'm saying his name right. The dude from Succession, Nick Offman, Brad Whitford, Shay Wigum, and Betty Gilpin. Dynamite show, you you know, sounds like a boring topic, but you put it on, I bet you guys would finish it. Just a pretty cool

3:01:14 story, a little slice of history of, you know, how this like loser basically ends up shooting the president of the United States. So, uh, check that [ __ ] out. Uh, Biz, the haunt show of the year, the hunting wise. Have you heard about this at all? No.

3:01:25 Yeah. It's uh it's a it's wicked cheesy. It's set in Texas. I was like, I'll throw this on. Probably fall asleep. And Hunting Wives.

3:01:32 The Hunting Wives. Yeah. M uh Malin Achman. She's Buck. She's naked as a J bro. Like five minutes in the show. I was like, all right.

3:01:38 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sign me up. Uh yeah. It's like a little campy, little cheesy, but um it's it's definitely the haunt show of the world uh that I watched this year. So, right up your alley, B. It's

3:01:49 another one already. Uh the Have you heard of the Chair Company? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now, this this is something I've watched one episode. This could be

3:01:57 He's a He's a character that this guy Tim Robinson you could this this is totally like if you told me I hate that show, I would get it. But basically the premise is this guy he gets a raise. He becomes like the the big dog at the company. And this is early on in the first episode. And then he's addressing the company as the new leader and he goes to sit down in this chair and the chair breaks and this dude cannot get over the chair breaking and it turns into an obsession of finding the company that made the chair and he can't find the company and he goes to the warehouse and it's an empty warehouse and it I've I'm only one episode in but I I was laughing my ass off. Like the guy is completely insane.

3:02:38 He plays him perfectly and he can't get over that this chair broke. It basically like ruined his life. So, I'm going to keep going on that one.

3:02:45 What's the show where he did the the the cigar and the hat on the window? I haven't seen any other of his shows, but I like had seen his face out there. I think

3:02:54 Yeah. No, I I I watched some of his clips on Instagram like from his shows and [ __ ] there's one where he goes back and forth with a guy like constantly where they just like he wants them to leave and they just keep insulting each other back and forth. So he his brain works on a on a different level than than a lot of people.

3:03:13 Yeah. He had that Netflix show I I think you should leave. And then that movie Friendship come out earlier this year. Him and Paul Rudd. Sort of like a a modernday cable guy.

3:03:21 Yes. That's where I saw him. That's where I saw seen that yet. Yeah. Pretty funny [ __ ] Uh and one of my followers on Twitter asked me what what were all the shows that I had recommended to Coupe over the years. So I I went back um through all my text and and these are all the shows I sent to Coupe just for anybody wants to watch them. I give him Bookie, Murder in Boston, Men of a Certain Age, Six Feet Under, Boardwalk Empire, Deadwood Succession, Industry, The Penguin, American Prime Evil, and the Red Riding Trilogy. So, any of those things I gave him. Coup seems to like, you know, to appreciate what I send him when he wants to kill.

3:03:54 When is the Penguin coming back? Uh, I think sometime next year. I think the Penguin the ending of the first season. Oh my god, I need another season of that.

3:04:04 Chris had Billy Audi, too. She was dynamite in that the little gangster girl there.

3:04:09 Um, let's see. Oh, my classic recommendation for the week. Uh, it was the 50th anniversary last week. Uh, one of just three movies to sweep the big five at the Oscars. Picture director, actor, actress, and writing. Uh, one flew over the Cuckoo's Nest with uh, Jack Nicholson. It was my Halloween costume a couple years ago. Probably I'm sure it's streaming at the usual places. Uh, just a fantastic movie was based on a book from the '60s. And this this is the movie, like I said before, that took like Nicholson was already a star. just put him into the stratosphere, made him a superstar. You know, it's a movie about authority and rebellion and all that stuff that was going on during the 60s and 70s, but and they filmed it at at a real nutouse. Uh I want to say in Oregon, but one of my favorite movies.

3:04:48 If you never seen it, check it out. Biz, you've seen it, have you? No. Cuckoo's Nest. All right, that's your assignment for this week. Um

3:04:55 I think I've seen parts of it where when it's on TV all day. Nurse Ratchet. Yeah, Nurse Ratchet. Oh, yeah. Yeah. one of the meanest [ __ ] characters of all time. Yeah, what's her name? Oh, I forgot. She won the award too as well. The Oscar for that. Um, okay. Uh, I don't have an NFL pick yet. I didn't really like anything, but NHL pick star tonight. If Minnesota, if Walnut is starting again, this kid's got four shutouts in his last six games. He has 10 10.5% of all the shutouts in the NHL this season in just his last six games.

3:05:26 That's pretty wild. One dude has all that. So if Minnesota if Walstead starting tonight, uh they're only minus 115 in Calgary. It seems like too low of a line, but I'm going to jump on them again if Walstead starting. And uh one last thing, if you're in Boston this weekend, be around Sunday, uh I will be behind the bench at TD Gen coaching uh team Shy versus the Bruins alumni. Uh it's a charity game. The Shy boys will be in town this weekend. So uh if you need something to do Sunday 3:00, come on over TD Gen and play behind the bench. Yeah, I'm pretty excited, man.

3:05:56 And I uh you know I did it last year over at Ganis Arena. But to to be behind the bench at TD Guide, man, I'm uh pretty fired up. I didn't Something I never thought was going to happen. So I'm I'm uh pretty revved up for it. Needless to say,

3:06:09 last thing. Last thing. Last night was the final episode, episode three of We Peek. We peing. We peeking.

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3:06:28 I love the double meaning of that felt genuine. That was 1,000% my takes. Yeah, I love that. A clever title, too. Biz Peing, not just the peak of the mountain, but uh you know, if you take a little something when you're on the mountain.

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3:07:03 We will be back. And tonight, if you're in Canada, if you have Amazon Prime, throw us on. We're going around the league. We're going around the league for hours and hours and hours covering all the action. Biz, myself, and Yans RA. Thank you once again for an R's World. Thank you so much for the amount of merch that you guys bought from Black Friday to Cyber Monday. Shout out the people creating our merch. Shout out everyone out there who is willing to spend a couple hard-earned dollars on a hat or a t-shirt or a hoodie. Like, that means the world to us. And that is so cool that you're willing to spend your money on uh representing our brand. And and seriously, thank you. We love you all. This show is nothing. Wouldn't exist without you guys. Um, so thank you. I wanted to I wanted to just get that in there.

3:07:51 That's very kind of you. I'm rich. It's a beacon, too, man. When people see it from afar, whe they, you know, it's like a bonding thing when people see the chickless gear, man. It's pretty It's pretty good [ __ ] So,

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3:08:14 Peace. Love you, boys.

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Ryan Whitney (Host), Paul Bissonnette (Host), Luc Robitaille (Guest), RA (Guest).

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In this episode, hosts Ryan and Biz welcome NHL legend Luc Robitaille to discuss the latest happenings in hockey, including team developments and personal anecdotes. They also highlight the benefits of the Discover it card, which offers cash back on various purchases related to sports and entertainment.

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