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The Tua Era is OFFICIALLY Over | Tranquilo Sport Talk

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "The Tua Era is OFFICIALLY Over | Tranquilo Sport Talk", an episode of Stay Tranquilo published December 19, 2025 (52 min, about 11,088 words). It mentions 24 people, works and ideas, including Chris Grier, Aaron Brewer, Miami Dolphins logo, Nick Hicks, Dive Bar Pod.

What this episode is about

The discussion emphasizes the sentiment among fans that it's time to move on from quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, reflecting on his mixed legacy with the Miami Dolphins after a disappointing performance in a critical game. Despite earlier hopes for the team's success, the conversation highlights the frustrations surrounding Tua's capabilities and the need for change within the franchise.

Key takeaways

  • Eras end, teams pivot; Tua's jersey collects nostalgia, not Lombardi dust.
  • Defense teased promise, but second-half freeze proved Miami needs layers, not just players.
  • Unexpected evictions: If Chris Greer can go, any Dolphin could be swimming solo.
  • A time-out on Tua: A benching disguised as a strategic pause for youthful auditions.
  • When scoreboard’s bleak, aim for sweet defeat; draft better, rebuild with intellect.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Dive Bar Pod
  2. – 15:00: Dante Moore, Eva Mendoza, Goodwill
  3. – 20:00: Nick Hicks
  4. – 25:00: Champ Kelly
  5. – 35:00: Asante Samuel Jr.
  6. – 40:00: Aaron Brewer, Danny Hanle, Die Bar podcast, Kenneth Grant
  7. – 50:00: Aaron Brewer, Aqua and Orange, Austin Reeve Jackson, Charles Harris

Notable quotes from "The Tua Era is OFFICIALLY Over | Tranquilo Sport Talk"

  • Today and we're joined by our buddy over there at the dive bar partner pod friend of the pod dive bar pod. You name it synonyms and rhymes.
    about Dive Bar Pod · at
  • One of the two quarterbacks which, you'd, have, to, think., You'd, either take Dante Moore, Mendoza, like you got because you think about it right now the ra the Raiders are…
    about Dante Moore · at
  • 13 on and a baby goat with a shirt. I had that shirt. Yeah, I gave it to Goodwill, I think. Like I got rid of it.
    about Goodwill · at
  • Fender and then like the whole car is green. It's like he, has, to, put, in, Nick, Hicks, is, our buddy. This isn't a secret. Nick Hicks trained Tua for a long time.
    about Nick Hicks · at
  • In place that you got right now. what is it? Champ, what is it? Kelly. Champ, Kelly., Let, Champ, Kelly, run, it, for a year. let Mike stay in plays and let them go get you…
    about Champ Kelly · at
  • And you literally can't do nothing. The one drive you are moving down the field you just throw a ball up to Asante Samuel Jr. and just end it. Like we finally get it going. So…
    about Asante Samuel Jr. · at
  • Head towards a rebuild that you'd go Oh, hell no. Y'all lost me. Like Jordan Brooks traded, Aaron Brewer traded.
    about Aaron Brewer · at
  • Good team. But I don't know what it is for me. I'm going to do a full 360 from when I was on the Die Bar podcast where I said, let's trade Devon Achan for a ton of picks. If we…
    about Die Bar podcast · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Chris Grier — Person · 4 mentions
  • Aaron Brewer — Person · 3 mentions · first at
  • Nick Hicks — Person · 2 mentions · first at
  • Dante Moore — Person · 1 mention · first at
  • Eva Mendoza — Person · 1 mention · first at
    One of the two quarterbacks which, you'd, have, to, think., You'd, either take Dante Moore, Mendoza, like you got because you think about it right now the ra the Raiders are…
  • Champ Kelly — Person · 1 mention · first at
  • Asante Samuel Jr. — Person · 1 mention · first at
  • Patrick Paul — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Think there's pieces that we can build around this team, right? It is Devon Achan, it's Patrick Paul, it's Jordan Brooks you, know,, Minka, towards, the, latter, half of that year looked really good right?, there, was, there, was, pieces.
  • Kenneth Grant — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Then you got your rookie and Kenneth Grant that was starting to take shape right?, there's, Aaron, Brewer,, best center in the league. And you know that's a quote from everybody in the.
  • Danny Hanle — Person · 1 mention · first at
    To do it and I'm going to and I'm going to quote my brother. It's my brother Danny Hanle's take. He's been saying this for years. We will never win anything until we go back to…
  • Charles Harris — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Exactly., Who's, the, one, that, u, we, was, it Charles Harris over TJ Watt, too? Like same, position, right, next, to, each other.
  • Austin Reeve Jackson — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Austin, Jackson, over, Justin, Jefferson.
  • Miles Garrett — Person · 1 mention · first at
    I, know, if, Miles, Garrett, obviously, wasn't having the year he's having like Brooks would be right, up, there, in, the, defensive player of the year conversation.
  • Derek Fisher — Person · 1 mention
  • Marvin Harrison Jr. — Person · 1 mention
  • Minka Fitzpatrick — Person · 1 mention
  • Noah Igbinoghene — Person · 1 mention
  • T. J. Watt — Person · 1 mention

Companies & orgs

Concepts & topics

Full transcript with timestamps

I'm team just it's time to move on. Get rid of him. I don't want him on the team. His aeros was filled with some great moments.

And, uh, and, yet, he's, going, to, be remembered as another name on the back of the shirt. Quarterback since Dan Marino.

I'm, just, I'm, just, going, No,, no,, no,, no, no, no. Hold up, hold up. I just realized like I have a tour jersey. So do I. Like all my two all my merch is Tua. What is going on ladies and gentlemen? It is another Tranilo sports episode today and we're joined by our buddy over there at the dive bar partner pod friend of the pod dive bar pod. You name it synonyms and rhymes.

Mr., Bobby,, how, we, feeling, today,, buddy? Bobby. Oh,, feeling, good,, man., I, feel, like, uh it's crazy. We were just here talking about Chris Greer being fired and how we didn't see it coming

and, here, we, are, two, for, two, in, one, year. Unfortunate but yeah, had, to, happen,, right?

Had, to, had, to, happen., It, was, so, do. So, we, were, riding, this, high,, you, know,

doing, what, we, do, as, Dolphin, fans., High of all time, right? Like, oh my god here we go. Four in a row, which, you know, when we looked at the stretch, we said we could do this.

Yeah. Right., And, we, did, it., And, it, wasn't, even pretty, but we did it. But this was the game. This was the game that was supposed to shift the narrative, change the dynamic of the belief of Mike McDaniel and that this team can win in the cold and that Tua can play in the cold. You name it, we know it. But we couldn't do it.

Nope., And, and, it, looked, bad. It, wasn't, even, that, we, couldn't, do, it. That's an understatement. It was just an absolute beatd down in that second half.

I, will, say, this,, the, defense, looked, the part in the first half. the first half right? Physical, making tackles, flying to the ball.

Jordan, Brooks,, who, has, been, insane, all year long, was again insane in that game.

Yes., Yes., Yes. I, I, don't, know, if, it, was, like, they, had been on the field for so long in the second half everything was kind of trying to catch up to them, but they couldn't make a tackle in the second half. That defense looked the defense that we've seen in the cold weathers in the past.

Yeah., I, mean,, it, was, um it was ugly. I mean the thing is like you, go, into, halftime, 7-3., All right., But even when we went to half it kind of like toward the end of that first half it started feeling different. It was like oh

yeah, this, isn't, really, a, confident one-score game. This is uh the wheels are bound to fall off and it just inevitably did. Uh yeah that second half started ugly. Um like you said defense really there Steelers making big plays like that DK shoving people like dude. Oh my god. And then of course the offense couldn't do anything. Um Tua

oh,, we'll, be, talking, about, Tua, today, but Tua, yeah, not his best game and might be one of his worst. Uh to be honest, he just looks scared, making a ton of big mistakes in terms of refusing to throw a ball the way. We also just like toward the end of the game when we like technically like theoretically had a chance to like still kind of get in it, we're just like walking around like going so slow. Like you would think we were getting in the huddle.

We, were, up, three, scores., It, was, crazy. There was no urgency. It was like this team just essentially packed it in with eight minutes left. And yes, it was a long shot, but like dude, at least like pretend that you're you're trying to win this game. And so yeah, it just wasn't really good. There's nothing really good to talk about. Um and it's just like it's officially a wrap. It's another season in the books. Yes, we got three games, but now it's like let's lose all three and get a better draft pick. That's all I'm thinking about now. uh openly lost three rooting against the Fins. Um you know, I love them to death but this is what's best for the franchise. And so, um yeah, that those are my thoughts after yesterday.

Yeah. Bobby,, I, got, a, question, for, you,, and it's honestly something I've been on Twitter all day today. Haven't seen much of it. Obviously, Tua's performance is leading to his benching, right? It's been this ongoing conversation is when do you make that decision? Now that there's nothing to play for, it makes sense to bench Tua.

Which, leads, me, to, my, question., Is, this more about Tua's performance and benching Tua or more about the fact that there's no more meaningful games this year? So, let's see what Quiners has got.

Yeah,, I, think, it's, both., I, think honestly, I think it's just kind of works out that way. It's like you do need to send a message to Tua and let him know like this isn't good enough. Like you're not going to be the quarterback here.

But, also, like, we, talked, about, it, last night on the show. Your, only, goal, for, the, rest, of, this season is to evaluate evaluate evaluate.

I, don't, want, to, see, Jordan, Brooks., Uh, I ain't going to get into it, but we're not going to we're probably not going to see Ma again. Uh like I don't want to see these dudes. Like let these guys plays. Let the young cats play. Let them get as much reps as possible. realize who you want to hang on to or who you don't want to hang on to. Uh get the tape out there for these guys. But I think Tua absolutely earned this benching. I think it's a long time coming. I know it uh it almost happened mid-season last year. Sounds like they considered it before apparently from the way Mike kind of said it. This is like the second time they considered this. Um and much like Chris Greer, you know it's like I never thought they had the balls to fire Chris Greer, especially mid-season.

Yeah., Yeah., Yeah., And, then, so, like, to double back even after saying like everything's on the table. We've had this is terri terrible quarterback play. Like everything is on the table right now. I'm like yeah but you're not benching Tua. Come on now. Get real. You kiss him on the forehead dude. It's like you're not bitching Tua.

Dude., Wake, up, this, morning., He's, like yeah you're out of here dude. And I'm not even starting the deal. We're paying six million. I'm starting Quinn of yours. I'm like hell yeah.

Yeah,, baby. Dude,, you, got, to, send, a, message., And I've my biggest angle that I've been kind of pushing all year is I think we've slowly seen look Mike went all in when he got the job. He showed how he could win with Tua. He made it work with Tua. He made him the best passer in football. Unfortunately, also made him one of the highest paid quarterbacks in football. But

he, did, his, job, with, Tua., And, I, think we've slowly seen Mike kind of like disattach himself from Tua. Like look I'm not going to cover him up anymore. I'm going to show you who Tua is. I'm not holding his hand. And I feel like the play calling, the strategy, hell after he made him look bad as a quarterback, he basically said, "Okay I'm gonna take the ball completely out of his hand." And we won four straight.

True. Run, the, ball, 200, yards, every, weekend. Um, and, I, think, I, think,, and, this, was, my biggest thing, is Mike has a way of keeping his job because he has a way of saying, "This was Tua. Give me a chance to go get my quarterback one time and show you what I can actually do." I made it work with Tua. And I think that's what we've seen slowly but surely and publicly right in front of your face. Mike has slowly detached himself and proven and quote unquote threw Tua under the bus without having to throw Tua under the bus by just letting Tua be Tua honestly which is kind of sad but

I, think, Mike, really, has, just, disattached himself from him and this was just one more step in that direction. I really think uh yeah it's survival of the fittest right now and Mike's trying to survive. Yeah, I think the big thing was Mike and Tua were always connected right?

Which, they, were,, but, that, was, because Mike made, Tua,, right?, We, saw, the, best, version of Tua in 2023 and giving credit to Mike, right? Because Mike was able to figure out how to make it work. Essentially though once he figured that out, so did defenses of other teams. And there was like Mike's like, I can't do anything else now with Tua. Like that's it. We we hit the ceiling with him. And I think that's where some of that regression comes from. I also think Tua has kind of been put in a cage because of the concussions and the injuries where he knows he can't take certain hits, right?

I mean, the play for me, there's a list of plays for Tua, right? And Bobby, you know this. I've been a huge Tua guy. Dave, you know this. I've been a huge Tua guy.

And, already, this, year,, I, was, starting, to kind of let it go. Saw some flashes to hold on enough of something. But my thing was in that Pittsburgh game right? You're down in that game. It's third and three. Tua has an opportunity to scramble for a first down

and, slides, a, yard, short,, which, we've seen this happen multiple times already in the season.

What, franchise, quarterback, with, playoffs on the line, on the road against a good team is going to do that?

I'm, with, you., I, listen,, I'm, with, you. Tua Tua has regressed so much. um you know this year and it's it's painfully obvious that not only has he gotten worse, he is scared. He's playing scared. He's scared to get hit. He's scared to do anything.

So, he's, put, himself, in, that, cage, because and granted again he's got organization as well.

There's, a, part, of, that, too,, but, like, he himself he he's just playing scared and and

you, can't, have, your, franchise quarterback out there playing scared. You just can't. and Tua, you know, he had his he had his that 20 23 season was incredible. He still has his strengths in terms of but like his strengths of like being so accurate and the timing

he, wasn't, accurate, this, year. He, doesn't, even, look, good., He's, lost that it seems like like so there's really no salvaging him this year and there's no excuse for it and and yeah it's it's it's like Bobby said it was it was bound to happen and um I'm glad they're doing it to be honest. It's time to move on. I don't know what they're going to do with this contract. I have no, idea, what, they're, going to, do, with him in general, but we have clearly the message has been sent. So, I'm very curious to see now the offseason becomes like cuz if we we have the 11 spot right now in the draft. If we lose these last three, there's a chance we can move up to like let's say seven or eight where then you can probably even make moves to try to get into that top five and take one of the two quarterbacks

which, you'd, have, to, think., You'd, either take Dante Moore, Mendoza, like you got because you think about it right now the ra the Raiders are going to take a guy, and, the, Jets, are going, to, take, a guy. You got to jump one of them two because the Giants aren't going to take a guy. Uh there's a what are the other teams?

The, Titans, are, not, going, to, take, a, guy. The, Titans, aren't, going to, take, a, guy and I don't think the Saints are going to take a guy either. Um so I think it's really just be you got to jump the Jets and uh the Raiders. So you can probably do that better if you got the seventh pick in the draft. you're probably not going to be able to jump the Jets because they have so much capital. If anyone's going to jump, it's them.

That's, also, true., Good, point., Good point. Do, you, get, me?, So,, there's, there's, that. Um, also there's the argument that this draft class of quarterbacks is not as good as next year. So, do you wait to get that quarterback next year? Also you owe to a 50 whatever it is million dollars next year. And I think that's the biggest question because

yeah,, we're, moving, on, from, him, right now, but is it a guarantee that we say we're not going to start him again next year?

No,, that's, it's, true., I, guess, there, is that chance, but I I don't think it's worth it. I think at this point you cut loose like the Broncos did with Russ and you just

you, eat, it, and, it's, just, like, screw, it, you know, whatever. It's, cost, the, same, amount, of, money basically.

Yeah,, it's, going, to, cost, the, same, amount of money and he's not going to I mean, I guess he can keep him on as a backup but I think there's a point. Isn't there a date that if he passes he gets paid even more? So like at that point just cut him because like it's better save whatever n save the 19 million um because it's you're either paying him 52 or 53 million if certain day I think it goes to 69 or something crazy like that. Um but yeah I'm I'm team just it's time to move on. Get rid of him. I don't want him on the team. Uh and yeah, his his arrows was filled with some great moments.

It, was and, uh, and, yet, he's, going, to, be remembered as another name on the back of the shirt quarterback since Dan Marino. I'm just I'm just go No, no, no no, no, no, no. Hold up, hold up, hold on. I just realized like I have a Tua jersey.

So, do, I., Like, all, my, Tua, All, my, merch, is Tua,, dude., I, have, a, two., I'm, going to have no dolphin merch.

I, I, actually, threw, this, shirt, away, a couple weeks ago. Um it was a it was a it was a a father goat with the number 13 on and a baby goat with a shirt. I had that shirt. Yeah, I gave it to Goodwill, I think. Like I got rid of it. Um, tell me my [ __ ] too.

There's, going, to, be, some, guy, out, there who thinks to was the goat, but no, my friend, you're being lied to by me. You're, being, lied, to, by, me., All right, this he's not the guy. And it's time to move on. I've got so much. I mean, every Dolphins jersey I have, Tua, he's now gone. Van gone. Janu gone. By the way Janu, what a play yesterday. Janu gone.

Called, it., I, saw, that. I've, got, I've, got, no, one, left., I, got, I got to get a new jersey. I don't even know what to get. might get a Brooks jersey and he's gonna be gone in two years.

I'm, done, buying, jerseys., We're, gonna, do a pooch and just make your custom

That's, what, I'm, do., Custom, name, jersey. That's, what, I'm, gonna, get. Um

I, don't, I, don't, buy, jerseys., One, because this just happens, right? It's the It's the NFL.

It's, a, business,, but, also, we're, Dolphin fans. Like, come on. You, boys, knew, better., You, boys, knew better.

I, got, it, as, a, gift., So,, I, can't, I, can't really blame myself. I, I, bought, it, on, draft, day, when, the night the day we drafted him. I bought the jersey.

You, bought, the, tour, jersey, on, draft, day? Yeah., Yeah., Yeah., Yeah,, I, did., So,, I've had it for a while.

He, was, riding, that, high, for, real. We, got, a, question, in, the, crowd. Do, you, think

I, don't, think, we, can, hear, you? Is, over, or, do, you, think, his, entire career is over?

Career's, over. No,, his, career, is, not, over. He's, going, to, be, a, generational, backup.

He's, going to, go, win, a, a, Super, Bowl, with the Saints. Yeah,, as, a, backup., He's, a, generational backup. He's going to be

seen, all, these, all, these, failed quarterbacks and end up I, don't, think, his, career, is, done.

Well,, as, a he, might, be, a, backup, somewhere, and, then you never know what happens. But

yeah,, I, think, he's, going, to, have, He's going to have the uh maybe he have the Mariota path where uh

um, you, know, he's, going, to, be, a because, he's, Hawaiian. Yeah,, exactly., Why?, He's, Hawaiian, and he's going to be a backup and he's only going to play when the starter gets injured. That's his path forward.

Don't, think, he, has, a, Daniel, Jones. No,, I, do, not., Daniel, Jones, is, 6'4 behemoth and uh he still got injured. You, know what, I, mean?, and, Dan, Jones., I don't know two two like I don't see a team Can you imagine being a general manager of a team and being like we need to find the quarterback for our future and see everything that's gone on the last two years in this organization and be like yep that's our guy there's no way

he, could, be, a, bridge, guy. No,, he, can, be, a, backup., That's, his that's his role for the rest of his life. He is a back. He's We're going to see him in those commercials of when they bring in the backup quarterback like, "Oh, bring in the backup in your life." And he's like talking to a girl like, "Remember to to to to, you know spell your cafe with an A." Like, who knows what he's going to do, but he ain't going to be a starting quarterback in this league. And mark my words.

He, is. I, hate, to, uh I, wish, better, for, him,, but, I, think, he's gonna turn into a meme. Like kind of like Jameus Win kind of like Jameus Winston is now. It's like, look, Jamus is never going to be more than what he is, but man, you love watching it. And I feel like Tua is going to be one of those guys where it's like, dude, a starter goes down, like David says

Tua, checks, in, and, you're, like,, you, call your boy, you're like, dude, get to the TV now. Ta is about to do some dope [ __ ]

Yes., Yes. That's, what, it, is., That's, what, it, is. Unfortunate. And And I sound, you know I sound mean, whatever. Whatever. He's I know he's a nice guy. And I wanted him to succeed so bad. I did. I I had his jersey. I want I wanted nothing more on this guy to succeed. Unfortunately, it's not working. So, now I agree, Bobby. He's going to be a meme and he will be forever remembered probably for the hands and the interceptions and like I don't know like that's that's all he's going to be remembered.

No,, that's, it., No, one's, going, to remember any of that good run. So,, I, think, the, worst, part, too, is, like this doesn't this isn't even meant to be disrespectful. Like reality of it is like Tulua was a premium athlete, one of the best college quarterbacks we've ever seen. An insane story, came in the league, obviously got over a devastating like tra like true level one trauma with his hip injury, came back, got to the top. Like it's a great story. Unfortunately though, the reality of it is he just his body caught up to him and like you don't have to hate Tua to understand that like his body has just started to let him down and it's pretty obvious and it's it's he's young but it's, like, look, the, the the, concussions probably don't help anything uh you know with his processing or like with his functions and then the Dolphins have to eat some of this too but like when he got paid they kind of put a lot of

restrictions on him and, he, kind, of, got, stuck, in, that facility and he wasn't putting in the work like he was putting in the work before and the reality of it is physically Tua is a hunting to a cord with a nice ass body kit and one of those crazy spoolers and a loud ass muffler. If he puts in all the time when he doesn't put in all the time, Tua is quickly a Honda Accord with like the red fender and then like the the whole car is green. It's like

he, has, to, put, in, like, Nick, Hicks, is, our buddy. This isn't a secret. Nick Hicks trained Tua for a long time.

Tua, was, training, and, I'm, not, even, being funny. five to six hours a day. Two a days every day of of the offseason since he came into the league with Nick Hicks. He gets his contract. I don't know what the hell he's doing. I I couldn't tell you. I'm not here to speak on what he does do, but I know him and Nick Hicks once that deal was done, that was a done deal for that. And for me, it's like I know now that Tua was putting in the time. And while he's not uh a freak athlete he's not Lamar Jackson. and he's never going to be that. But when putting in the time, he could maximize his potential. He could do enough. And another thing with the inaccuracy is like this is one thing Nick always talks about. His hitch is more important than any other quarterback's hitch. The top of his drop back and the way he steps into a throw is the most important part of Tua's game, period. And that's why

now he can't hit the ball side of a barn. That's why Sante Samuel Jr. is probably going to get another contract this offseason. It's just

to, his, fundamentals, and, it, shows, he, just ain't put in that work. When you work five five hours a day, you don't have to think about nothing. Your body's like snap snap snap snap. Your [ __ ] is on point.

When, you, go, from, doing, that, to, doing nothing, you're looking at it. Third and two, can't pick up a first down with a wide open field. That's his body breaking down and not putting in the work in the offseason. So all that stuff you're talking about, it's like

we're, not, being, disrespectful., We, all were fans of the guy. I wish he turned into Dan Marino. That would have been incredible for us.

The, reality, of, it, is, his, body, has, failed him and now even simple things as picking up third and two in a wide open field is impossible. And it's just that's reality and you know he's been through a lot. He deserves that. I mean he did put his essentially put his life on the line a few times for this organization. So like he tried but the reality of it is it's over. Like

his, body, is, telling, you, the, story., So I, to, be, honest, with, you,, like, is, there, a world, where, like, he, I, don't know., I guess not. Like he just like packs it up like he got his bag, you know? He's got injury history. I know he will never probably do it, but like it's probably the best thing for him. Maybe even me retire.

I, I, don't, think, so., I, mean,, if, Tua, is the competitor that he's always said that he's been, he'll find whatever the next path is for him to still play in the NFL. But the only way I could see something like that happen is if he got another concussion.

Yeah., But, well,, he's, not, gonna, get, it this year. So right. He's, not, even, the, backup,

which, a, quarterback. Who's, to, say, that, now, that, there's nothing to play higher ups are like "Yo, we don't want to deal with that insurance policy that exists out there that if two were to get another concussion, we'd have to like pay out basically."

Wait,, what?, Really?, You, don't, remember when that first um when that last concussion happened, people were saying that there's like a clause that if he retires,

we, get, the, money, back. We, get, the, money, back,, but, there's, like an insurance policy.

Oh. And, like, to, what, gets, paid,, but, we're, we still like Ross, I'm pretty sure, is still obligated to pay some of it.

Yeah. From, my, understanding,, if, he, medically retired, technically, I mean, we would we wouldn't have to pay the whole salary.

The, whole, salary. He, was, forced, to, retire. That's, what, I'm, saying., medically retired retired under his own will. It's different.

Yeah. Yeah., Yeah. Yeah., Well, retired, under, his, own, will. Yeah., Oh,, well., Well,, listen, I do I hope the best for him. I I really do. Uh but it's just not going to be here. So, like I just I it's just like I'm ready to look close this chapter open the next chapter. We got Quinners baby. Come on. Hook them. Hook them baby. We got Quinn's era. Start getting hype. Boy until I watch I won't get hyped until I watch that game on Sunday.

We, got, a, new, quarterback,, baby., Let's go. I'm, shaking, my, mullet, over, here, in, case you're wondering.

Let's, get, it,, Bobby. Question, before., Quinn,, in, my, opinion right now is just let's see what we got. We could talk about him in three weeks because right now we know nothing about him. Apparently he's looked good in practice. It's great. But it's really just a test. The biggest question outside of this, what's what's the situation with Mike? Is Mike safe for next year? Is it still determined on what happens these next three weeks? Like where where's it because if not why not fire Mike right now?

I've, I've, got, an, opinion,, but, Bob,, if you want to go first. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Thanks, man. I appreciate that one. Just throw it at him. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I can go. I really

Look,, Go, ahead., Go, ahead., Go, ahead. I, really, I, really, think, it, it, a, large part will depend on who we think is available, right? Like if if

Yeah. In, terms, of, especially, like, I, mean, I don't think they'll fire him if they like I think they're going to look for a significant upgrade if if that makes sense. But again like last year there was the Vaybulls, right? like a Vel was available. That's what I'm thinking. I mean, again he also loses the next three games and we go six and 10. I mean, I don't know. Maybe, they, do, fire, him, at, the, end, of the year, no matter, what., But, I, don't, know., I have a weird feeling that we either keep him or um or or you know, only fire him if we really find we have a guy that we think is a sure like upgrade like and we're not like going to take I don't think we'll take a risk on anybody. And that's just my opinion. I don't think we're going to take a risk on a on a you know potential, kind, of like, him,, a, guy, like him, a potential upside guy that we're like, "Yeah, let's see what he's got."

So, no,, I, think, that's, pretty, accurate., I think the context matters, right? Circumstance matters. I think that uh

we're, going, to, get, to, the, offseason. Yeah. And Ross is going to Ross, right? If he if he goes to a yacht party and John Gruden just happens to be across the table

and, he's, like wink, wink, and, he's, got, his, dive, bar, hat on, you know, he might be like

"Okay,, let, me, make, one, call, before, we talk. Let me make a call so I don't get in trouble again. I've been through this. Hold on. Let me fire the guy first." I think uh but also you got to understand like if they don't plan on competing next year, let's say they really truly see next year as like a gap year. uh like Quinton is just gonna run this thing and you're gonna essentially be tanking. Uh people hate that word but let's be honest here. Um

it, is. Why, would, you, fire, Mike, McDaniel just to set the other guy up to suck? You, know what, I, mean?, Like, if, you, know like next year just keep keep uh the GM in place that you got right now. Um what is it? Champ, what is it? Kelly. Champ

Champ, Kelly., Let, Champ, Kelly, run, it, for a year. let Mike stay in plays and let them go get you three wins with Quinny yours and then you go and look at like like Andre said, you go look at that quarterback class and you see what you really got. And in that off season you're a very desirable destination now. You're probably coming out of some of that dead cap that you ate from Tua. Uh Tyreek's, off, the, books,, a, lot, of the vets are off the books. You probably got a lot better cap situation. Got top three pick, probably a bunch of picks probably 10 plus picks in the draft.

you're looking a lot prettier, you know in the open market to a quarterback. And honestly, there's not really like there isn't really the king of the crown. Like, there's nobody out there right now that I'm like, I absolutely would fire Mike McDaniel 4.

Yeah. So,, like, it, just, it's, all, about, context. Now, Mike Tomlin gets fired tomorrow.

Yeah. You, know,, hey, different, story. Maybe, we, talk, about, it, but that's, so, dolphins,, right?, To, just, like hypothetically that's hypotheticals. We live in hypothetical land of unfortunately right now I think Mike's your coach. I think

like, I, said, earlier, I, have, to, stick, to it because I think this is just another step of him fully detaching himself from Tua and knowing that that ship's kind of turning and I think Mike has the approval of the well of Steven Ross who you know really matters at the end of the day because they fired Greer not McDaniel. They benched Tua. McDaniel keeps his job you know and what you know we all see and obviously things can get real bad real quickly. Obviously things are headed that way. I mean like Andre said, this is really just a test run to see what Quinners is. We can crank up the Uers have. I'm all about posting Tik Toks all day long of him like in rap music, and, doing, going doing, crazy, stuff in college. But reality of it is like yours is probably barn a miracle miracle which I'm all here for

not, going, to, take, off, and, like, win, this job, you know? Like that's not what this is about. This is a strictly business a business move to get Tulua off the field. Move that to the side kind of prepare to move on from that and not further damage your draft draft situation and your future, you know, assets.

Yeah., I, mean,, the, only, cuz, like, I, was, on the train where Mike did enough for me to like I'm down to run it back again. But, you know, then it's like you watch a Steelers game and it's like, dude you've done this so many times where you can't figure it out, right? You just got out coached by a better coach. Your team doesn't seem prepared and ready to handle the cold. And they did all the things. They practiced in the snow getting off the plane. Like, they did everything. Like, I I was bought in. And that first half defensive wise, I was like, "Okay, yeah, I see it. I see something different than I've seen in the past." But then again, here we go.

Wheels [ __ ] came off and and it was the same exact story of what we see in the Colts. But then again, Tua played like crap. So, is it more a Tua problem or a Mike problem or obviously a bo both problem?

I, would, be, curious, to, see, Mike, with, his quarterback as you said, Bobby. Like let Mike go get a guy that he says "Bro, this is it. I can get him. I know how to run the offense. he can take us to the next level. I am curious to see because right now Mike gets fired

every, team, that, needs, an, OC, is, calling for Mike right now. He, will, he, will, demand, immediately, and he's going to

if, anyone's, going, to, leave, this, team, and win a Super Bowl, it's going to be him because he's going to go be the OC for like Lamar Jackson. Like

the, Eagles, are, like, nonstop, fans, like saying like, "Bro, bring Mike here. We'll take him right now." Can you imagine the Eagles just win win another Super Bowl with Mike McDan at OC and Fangio at DC? I will literally I will burn down the city of Philadelphia. Honestly, what happened?

I, think, y'all, just, cracked, the, code actually. That's exactly how this goes.

Yeah. So, but I'm with you, Gray. Like I I personally I blame more Tua than McDaniel. McDaniel absolutely deserves blame though. Like he can't get away scotfree. There's a lot of things that fall on him. I do, but I think I really do. I just think it's a tool problem. Like I think like how can you like is he this is the best that we can do with him. Like just think about it in that first half alone. Let's just look at the first half. That defense played lights out and we could only get three points. So there's only so much that the defense can do eventually and then even through the game was 283. We still couldn't score anything. Like sure some things definitely fall on him in terms of some bad play calls probably and things like that. But like

the, fact, that, you, can't, trust, your quarterback and your quarterback can't make certain plays that you need him to make,

there's, only, so, much, that, the, coach, can do. Our, four, game, winning, streak,, Tua, didn't throw for over 200 yards in any single one of those games. Like that's Mike saying I'm taking the ball out of your hand and we're going to win another way.

Yeah., Exactly. Yeah., So, for, me,, I, think, I, mean, listen, I I I like Mike. I but I'm I'm somebody who would love I would have loved to Vayball like I want like a tough guy dude. I just want But we did do that with floors, you know what I mean? to terrible results. So, like you don't like at this point, what do I know? But like Mike, he is an offensive genius. He I know it's I know it's still in there and you can see it. Some of the games that he called this year have been amazing. Um I do still think that he's got that football mind. Um I just think I do think it's a better fit for an OC than a head coach. But, you know, unless they they pull what's it the college team that just uh hired somebody and then went to Virginia Tech with Franklin and the head coach Virginia Tech became the DC. Like he actually stayed at Virginia Tech. Oh, sure.

Can, you, imagine, that, happen?, Like, we, go get somebody. Uh, and, just, Mike's, like, screw, it,, I'll run it back at OC and it would never happen, but that would be best.

That, needed, to, happen, with, Vable, last year. That, would, be, best, case, scenario.

Yeah,, that's, not, happening. Yeah., Yeah,, I, think, Tua, is, just, like David was kind of saying, every quarterbacks have archetypes and Tua unfortunately is not Kobe or or Shaq.

Tua, is, Derek, Fischer and, great., Hey,, great, [ __ ] point, guard, player. Yeah.

Has, a, lot, of, hardware, in, his, closet. But, his, job, wasn't, to, put, the, team, on his back or depend on and go score 40 and go against your best defender. His job was to be smart, dish out the ball as needed, and be willing to hit a clutch shot or a big three when needed. And that literally is Tua. And that's fine, but one, and this is why Chris Greer doesn't have a job. We're not built like the damn 01 Lakers either. So like,

like, we, don't, have, all, that, around, him anymore. So like that's not going to work. I mean, you got guys who literally can and like Andre was kind of saying it like the defense did their best. You don't think for a second if we have, you know, Josh Allen in that first half we're not winning 173 at half, 17-7. Like the defense went all out in the first half, best they could do for you and you literally can't do nothing. The one drive you are moving down the field you just throw a ball up to Asante Samuel Jr. and just end it. Like we finally get it going. So like that is reality. You really can sell the idea of McDaniel having his one turn at this thing because you know like

that, game, goes, different, if, you, have, a true quarterback. If you have a quarterback who can go make the plays read defenses and win ball games. Like

it's, just, it, is, what, it, is., It, just, is what it is. I'm, with, you., There's, the, thing, is there's so much change, right? Is weaver going to go take a head coaching job somewhere there, right? So then what what do you do with that? We have the open GM spot.

You, got, the, cap, situation., Like, we, are in such a disaster. We're, in, a, terrible, situation.

Like, we're, here, talking, about, two, of, 20 problems at the Steamer. We're staring we're just staring massive year re years years of rebuild in the face and I don't want to accept it yet.

But so, you're, saying, we're, running, it, back? Probably., We're, gonna, probably, run, it back.

Um, you, know., But, Bobby,, here's, the difference though. We're going to run it back

with, Russell, Wilson next, year,, baby. I, won. Bring, in, the, Russ, resurgent, year.

Can, you, imagine, a, locker, room, with, Tua and Russ? Oh, god,, no., It, would, be, It, would, be

But, that, wouldn't, be, the, That, would never happen. First of all I, I, do, want, to, say, this., I, really, do, I think people talk about dead cap way too much. Uh I actually go on full tangent and rants on our show about the dead cap thing. I think people look at the deck cap like it's like the mind flare. Like it truly does mindblow people. Like we can't cut someone. They get paid blah blah. It's like dude Shawn Peyton just proved to you why that's just dumber.

Exactly., I, literally, cut, the, highest paid quarterback in football and, they're, now, one, seed, in, the, AFC, two years later.

Exactly., EXACTLY. IF, YOU, KNOW, WHAT, YOU'RE, DOING, AND, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE in place.

Yeah. And, let's, be, honest, here., We're, not trying We're probably not going to be back in the AFC title in two years. We haven't been there in 25 years or Yeah.

probably, much, longer, than, that. AFC, AFC, title, is, is, nice., So, we, I'd, like to get to the the divisional first.

Exactly., So, the, point, is, dead, cap, also doesn't matter to a team that doesn't plan on competing in the near future. So like

to, talk, about, the, dead, cap, and, like, also people just assume two is going to be okay to like just sit there and be the I love I love supporting Quinny like he's great kid. No, like two is not going to sit there like idle hands either. So like it doesn't work that way unfortunately when this kind of stuff comes to a head. It comes to a head. You have to end it and you can't have people in the building. It causes unwanted tension. It just it's just weird, right? It's always weird. So like I think Tua is gone. I really do. Now I do want to throw something back at y'all real quick. This was a topic last night.

If we're looking for a bridge quarterback, this was my pitch. Cuz tell me this wouldn't be fun. We're going to lose a lot of ball games, but we're going to score a lot of points. Go get me Kyler Murray and just let's play some backyard [ __ ] for 17 games.

No., See,, I, I, am, I, am, a, I, I, am, no, Kyler Murray. Anti Kyler Murray, Bobby, I thought you were going with the Jameus Winston rout. I was like, "Yeah, we're going to lose a bunch. We're going to play lose a lot score a lot of points. I'm like, this is Jameus.

Yeah, that's, not, Kyler, in, my, opinion. Dude,, I, can't, I, don't, want, to, see another quarterback take a snap that is under six feet on this team. I don't want to see it anymore. I don't want to see it again. I need a taller

I'm, going, to, tell, you, exactly, why, Marvin why um Kyler Murray is not going to work. Right. I have Marvin Harrison and Michael Wilson on my fantasy team. They were non-existent until Jacobe Brassette came into the picture.

Kyler, Murray, stinks., Let's, bring, back Jacobe. I, don't, want, him. Let's, bring, back, Jacobe, Brassette.

Y, forgetting., Y'all, are, forgetting, one critical part here. I'm trying to tank but I also want to watch something interesting on Sundays.

That's, fair., That's, fair. You, tell, me, watching, that, little, father run around with the oversized football every Sunday. Chunking it. Backyard [ __ ] with Han and Waddle wouldn't be entertaining.

That's, true., Mike, Mike, could, make, Kyler work. Y'all, are, forgetting, a, lot, of, There's variables in there that make this a good match.

How, about, this?, Let's, trade, our, entire team. Talk, about, speed, everywhere.

Let's, talk, Let's, trade, our, entire, team except Achan and go get Lamar Jackson.

I, don't, want, Lamar. That's, actually, a, great, segue, to, my, next question.

A, lot, of, people, say, they're, team, tank, but how team tank are you? Like where do you draw the line? Like where what is a move that if you seen happen this off seasonason to acquire more assets and head towards a rebuild that you'd go "Oh, hell no. Y'all lost me." Like Jordan Brooks traded, Aaron Brewer traded.

I, mean,, dude,, I, I, that's, the, thing., I think there's pieces that we can build around around this team, right? It is Devon Achan, it's Patrick Paul, it's Jordan Brooks

you, know,, Minka, towards, the, latter, half of that year looked really good right?, Like, there, was, there, was, pieces on this team. Dodson was good this year. You know, then you got your your rookie and and Kenneth Grant that was starting to take shape

right?, Like, there's, Aaron, Brewer,, best center in the league. And you know that's a quote from everybody in the league.

So,, it's, like, there's, pieces, around, bro. But like I'm, also, understanding, like, we've, been this for 25 years, right? We're a piece away. We're a piece away. We're a piece away.

Here, we, are, again. We're, a, couple, pieces, away, from, being, a good team. But I don't know what it is for me. I'm going to do a full 360 from when I was on the Die Bar podcast where I said, uh, let's trade Devon Achan for a ton of picks. If we trade Devon Achan

I, He, is, the, only, player, I, will, make, a, I will cause a riot for. Yeah I, I, have

I'm, with, you fully., I, agree., We, do, have, so, many, good pieces that like, I, and, I'm, with, you., I, I, truly, like this is I'm such a sicko, man. I really

Jordan, Brooks, is, [ __ ] I, think, we're, a, quarterback, away., I, I think we're a quarterback away. I I am a sicko. I think we're there's so much talent on this team. We need a few We do We have some holes. We are not perfect. I no I don't disagree with that.

But, I, think, like, so, like, I, don't, want, to blow, it, up,, right?, You, know what, I, mean? But at the same time I I I think we just uh you know what it is. You know we got to do it and I'm going to and I'm going to quote my brother. It's my brother Danny Hanle's take. He's been saying this for years. We will never win anything until we go back to the old logo or change the damn whale. All right. We need to change. We need a re a brand rebrand. Um we need to go back to the old school logo. Get rid of this new wave stuff. It's time to go back. It's the only way to break the curse. And uh that's that. So maybe that's it. Old logo. I think that's honestly the curse.

I thought it was Greer, but it's the old logo. It's, the, logo,, dude., It's, that, whale.

Well,, the, word, is, that Ross, loves, the, new, uniforms., He, created that to be like he wanted to put his impact imprint on the Miami franchise. That was his way of doing it. It didn't land like he thought, but he's too stubborn to change. So, unfortunately you're telling me we need a new owner as well. So, that's great. Just add add it to the laundry list.

Add, it, to, the, laundry, list, 100%., I, got one last question. It's only for Bobby because I already know how Dave is going to answer this question.

Jesus, Christ. There's, there's, this, um, it's, not, a rumor, but you know, it's out there. It's, out, there, in, the, the the, Twitter stratosphere. you know, this guy in Cleveland, or not in Cleveland, in uh Cincinnati is not very happy at quarterback right now. Is there a world that the Dolphins trade for Joey V? And how would you feel about that?

Look,, I, think, when, you've, pitched, Joey Burrow, Joe Burrow as your quarterback you feel pretty good about it, right? But when you really think about it, one the assets it's going to take to trade for Joe Burrow

and, two,, most, importantly,, especially, we've spent 38 minutes and 32 seconds talking about an injuryprone quarterback,

right? Joe, Burrow, is, the, only, quarterback, in this league that's more injuryprone than Tua.

It's, it's, an, absolute, no., It's, just, it's so Dolphins. We get the the best quarterback from that class and he just never sees the field. It's just it would be the

It, would, just, be, the, cherry, on, top, honestly. I'm, with, you,, Bobby., Thank, you, for, that. Uh I think Joe Burrow's the most overrated quarterback in this entire league. I think this whole thing of Joey B, Golden Boy, that guy and I mean he is made of glass. He is he is way more fragile than Tua and really like he's going to retire in two years because he's already talking about like how he's going to retire and move to Paris and be in fashion week 24 uh you know months of the year or whatever. I don't care. I am I am not a Joe Burl guy. He's a one-hit wonder. He is overrated as hell. That is my take. No

it's, fair., I, My, thing, is, the, injuries because when he's healthy, he looks sick. But

he's, a, good, He's, a, good, quarterback., I do want to stand firm on that. Like

yeah, he's, great. You're, doing, so, well. You're, doing, so, well. He's, a, great, quarterback, and, he, is, a great looking guy. Like, but his tendings might be made of wet toilet paper and that that's reality and that's okay.

Yeah., No, he's, going, to, have, a, good, life., He'll have a great life. That's, for, damn, sure. That's all I got as far as questions. There's a lot more things to figure out with this team.

Now, it's, the, Quinners, era., We, see, what we got with him and, then, we, we we, run, it, back, at, the, end of the, season.

Oh, yeah, we, got, another, question, in, the, crowd. This, is, about, Quinn., Talk, about, how, many questions.

How, much, weight, do, you, hold, on, this, game for Quinn even though we are playing arguably one of the worst defenses?

Honestly,, zero., I, I, I, I, for, me I, actually, just, think, Quinn, like, the, U era is just me trolling and having fun. There's no world and I want him to prove me wrong and maybe he is the greatest player I've ever seen. I just don't see a world where he actually impresses me enough these three games where I'm like that's the guy. Let's build around him. Who knows?

Doesn't, mean the expectation for Quinn is low, right? So no one's coming in expecting anything seventh round pick. Like I mean who knows? Did we just stumble into Tom Brady? Let's find out. Tune in next week, folks. Like that. I don't know. I I ag I I get what you're saying, but like I don't know. For me, I'm not expecting much. I'm I'm For me, it's more about the two of benching than it is about starting Quinurs. I think it's like let's just see what we got. If he doesn't have what it takes, doesn't have what it takes. If he does, I'm just like, "All right, let's see." But like I don't, know if, like, I, want, to, like, just dive in and be like this is our guy after these three games. I just I mean he'd have to really do something incredible. like he'd have to like look like Patrick Mahomes for me to be like "All right, you know, maybe I'm sold."

But that's, the, preseason., That, mean that's, preseason., That, does, that, doesn't mean anything.

Browns, like, obviously,, you, know,, you're not He, did, throw, a, dime., He, did, throw, one dime rounds getting hit and just freaking let one lose.

So, like, let's, say, we, come, out, and, he, has one of these, you know, first game flashes., We, come, out, with a, double,, he has an okay game. Yeah. you know, is that a sign to like, okay, you know what?

No, I, don't, know. There's, no, it's, it's, three, game., It's, a three game test

against, some, decent, teams, outside, of, one good defense outside, of, Cincy.

Yeah., I, mean,, listen,, he's, going, to outplay the burrow the bum. I mean, I expect it. Um, and then

Jesus, that's, good. I'll, tell, you, what., I, I'll, tell, you what. I'll tell you what, let me tell you this. If if Quinners

this, guy, gets, roasted, every, time, he, has these hot takes on Joe Brown. The city of Cincinnati hates my ass. Um

if, Quinn, is,, mark, my, words,, has, better stats, just stats, right? Let's say pick a stat. Do you want touchdown or yards?

Both. You, want, both?, All right., Both., If, he has better stat, touchdown yards Burrow, Baker, and May. I am not only I'm going to first of all I'm gonna have to buy Quinn U's jersey. And I might and I might have to just fully embrace the Quinn Ur stand. and I will do everything. I might get a tattoo. Who knows what's going to happen.

Okay. But, if, he, has, to, outplay, all, three quarterbacks and he's my guy pooch, if he outplays all three of them, yards and touchdowns, my guy jerseys coming.

So,, we, go, three, and0, and, he, outplays almost. Yeah,, he's, the, guy., He's, the, guy., That's your answer.

I, mean,, that's, a, good, enough. Yeah,, Burrow, should, be, an, easy, one,, but you know, let's see what he's got against Baker and May.

Yeah,, I'll, see. I, really, just, want, to, be, like, intrigued. I I'm just showing up Sunday for like some flashes, a little razledazzle, but to like at the end of the day lose by like 10. Like let's be honest here.

Like that's, why, he, can, throw, for, 400, yards, but we better lose by you know lose at the end of the day. So like it'd be a little disappointing honestly if he pulls some rabbit out the be to be quite honest. It's like hold on son. It's like BUT YOU FAILED A FRENCH HOUSE QUARTERBACK. I don't give a [ __ ]

He, could, have, done, that, next, year., And there is a world where like he is the quarterback next year and like he could show like why you should give him a true shot while we secretly try to get the number one pick. Sure, I'm there. You can sell me on that. But I mean

yeah,, I'm, not, expecting, uh and, I, don't, really, know, what, he, could, do honestly to make you truly buy in in three weeks, especially with our history and luck.

100%., I, mean,, with, our, history, and, luck, he's going to look like the second coming of Jesus Christ these next three weeks. And ne and then we're going to go all in and he's going to look like the second coming of Satan. So, I don't know what the hell. That's just us. That is just us in a nutshell. So

oh, man., To, be, a, Dolphin, fan, let, me, put, this, on, there, real, quick. If, there, was, one, quarterback, though, that you truly would, now it's got to be realistic. You can't just say Josh Allen because the Bills aren't trading Josh Allen and they damn straight ain't trading him to the Dolphins realistically that there could be a scenario where somehow he becomes available who is the you know like break glass an actual elite quarterback that you would throw real assets I'm talking like two three first round picks to go get that realistic could come home. I got mine. I'll start because I think it's realistic. We know for damn sure right out of his mouth that he would love to be here and it's the opposite of anything we've had in the past. And he's had kind of a rocky season, too. But if I'm breaking the glass and I'm going for him, Lamar Jackson.

Yep., Yep., Yep., Retweet. Bring, him, home. Yeah. South, Florida, kid,, born, and, raised, electric city. That would be some fun damn football.

It, would., I, just, I, I, don't, think, that's going to happen. It's, my, answer,, too,, by, the, way,, Bobby. I'm not going to talk on this. That is my guy. I I would do sick things to have Lamar Jackson in Aqua and Orange. So I'm with you.

Realistic., I, don't, know. Well,, look,, listen., They, have, some terminal over there. It's not perfect there. There's like rumors that Lamar hates it there. John

John, don't, like, it, there., Somebody's getting there. Somebody apparently is getting moved this all season.

John, or, Lamar?, Lamar, doesn't, show. I, think, John, Harball, though., Oh, my, god. I would love

bring, them, both, over, here. Well,, you, just, real, I, just, told, you, you can't have both. I think there's some I think there's some It's like trading for Flores and Tua. they just can't have it.

But, look,, yeah,, if, they, want, to, get,, you know, stupid and get rid of either one of them, we're definitely going to be uh interested. But I think that, you know things like that could happen and you if you pay attention like Lamar like there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on over there like with the injuries and like he was back and then he wasn't back and then he's like they shouldn't have said I was back cuz I wasn't ready and like he never shows up on Wednesdays and like I don't know, there's some weird stuff going on

dude., And, by, the, way,, the, biggest mistake the Miami Dolphins ever made was not going after Lamar two years ago. Like Lamar was no one Well, yeah, it's not just Miami Dolphin, but we had we if we would have thrown

the, same, contract, at, him, we, would, have, he, would, have, signed, with the Miami Dolphins. Like, and he would have been worth it at the time. He was already an MVP winner. Like, he's proven in this league. He's electric. Um, he was the guy like we should have gone after him. Obviously, hindsight's 2020 but like it's also like, dude, this is a two-time MVP quarterback. Like, he was available. Like, and he wanted to come to your city. Why aren't you talking to him at least? Like, like whatever. Uh and by the way, I mean, we and we also could have drafted him. Let's not forget. So

yeah., Apparently,, Steven, Ross, wanted him too. Apparently,, every, time, Steven, Ross, has wanted a quarterback, they're a dog. Like, he can't do much, right? But he knows quarterbacks. And he didn't want Tua. He wanted Lamar apparently. He wanted I forget. There's a couple more examples of that.

Who, was, he?, Did, he, want, Herbert, or, was that Flores? Flores, wanted, Herbert.

Flores, wanted. I, think, Flores, wanted, Love. Oh., Oh,, really? I, think, that's, the, name, attached, to Flores. I think

maybe, Ross, wanted, Herbert. And, what, was, it?, Greer, to Yeah., I, mean,, it's, all, good., I, mean, dude, they all got their misses that we can sit here and be like

I, know they, all, got, their,, you, know,, like Flores drafted Noah Igbo over Jonathan Taylor.

Exactly., Who's, the, one, that, u, we, was, it Charles Harris over TJ Watt, too? Like uh

same, position, like, right, next, to, each other. Austin, Jackson, over, Justin, Jefferson.

Yeah., Yeah., Yeah., Can, you, imagine, it? JJ, is, a, guy, that's, in, turmoil.

That's, interesting. You want which one? You want to bring nine over? Maybe, Justin, Jefferson.

Dude,, could, you, imagine, going, from, two to nine? Holy [ __ ] That's hell. Yes., Yes,, it, is.

That's, some, [ __ ], the, Dolphins, would, do. Oh, man,, that's, good. But, at, the, end, of, the, day,, I, don't, think we're making any of this stuff. I think we're not in position. We're no longer you know, [ __ ] these picks. We're we're we need every asset we can get and some.

100%., So,, like, I, don't, want, to, trade Jordan Brooks and I don't want to trade Aaron Brewer and there's I want Ma to kind of come back and be that vet to kind of steer the ship for the future. But it's like at the same time

you, I, don't, know, what, you, could, get, for Jordan Brooks. He's arguably the best linebacker in football if Fred Warner's

hurt. And, you, know, Aaron, Brewer, is, the, best center in football. They're both 28. Do they want to hang around till 31 to see competitive football? They're as hot as they're ever going to be. And if you tell me you can flip them both for second round picks, I don't know. Maybe maybe if you're all in on a rebuild that might be the move.

I, know, if, Miles, Garrett, obviously, wasn't having the year he's having like Brooks would be

like, right, up, there, in, the, defensive player of the year conversation. At least, the, NFL, own, tackles.

Yeah., Like, he's, had, he's, incredible., Um but yeah, against Yeah, it it really depends on I mean if those guys even want to be here, right? Like you know what I mean? That's another part. Obviously, they have their contracts but like they can, you know, they can be like, "Get me the hell out of here." And then we at that point, you try to get what you get uh for them. So

comes, in,, he's, going, to, have, his, hands full. Oh,, yeah., Oh,, yeah., We, Yeah., Yeah., Yeah. Yeah. We I

That's, why, the, signs, really, point, to, us and, that's, why, the, signs, really, point, to us kind of like

just, kind, of, kicking, the, can, down, the road a little bit. like you kind of got to keep some stuff in place because you're just not really built

to, be, a, desirable, destination, or, to really make a big swing and to even get what you want in the first place. So

yeah, we, might, just, be, stuck, kind, of, status quo for another year. Yeah,, I, agree., No,, what, a, blast.

What, a, blast. What, a, freaking, blast. And, we'll, run, it, again, next, year.

Next, year., Next, year, by, July,, we're back. Hey, I'll be posting that picture of the dude with the the dolphins hat on. I want you to put the word out.

Yes., Yeah. Yeah., Yeah., Yeah., We, make, like, one signing. It's like like like a six round pick. We're back.

I, felt, so, good, about, this, year. Yeah. I, think, that, guy, far, away. Oh, man., Oh,, it'd, be

man., Well,, Bobby,, always, a, pleasure. Yes. unfortunate series of events, but we got three more games. It's Quinn time. We'll see what we got and then uh we'll probably run it back again as the season ends

and, see, see, what, we're, looking, at. Yeah,, it's, unfortunate, we'll, have, like another sports show or something where we don't have to talk about the Dolphins every week, but whatever.

Hey, now., Hey, now. That's, neither, here, or, there. Wink, wink. Something's, brewing.

I'm, tired,, boss., I'm, tired,, boss. Exactly. I, can, only, promote, stuff, so, well, like bro.

My, god. Something's, cooking., We're, We're, hyped. But, until, then,, appreciate, you., Yes, sir., See, you, on, the next, Pleasure.

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What is "The Tua Era is OFFICIALLY Over | Tranquilo Sport Talk" about?

The discussion emphasizes the sentiment among fans that it's time to move on from quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, reflecting on his mixed legacy with the Miami Dolphins after a disappointing performance in a critical game. Despite earlier hopes for the team's success, the conversation highlights the frustrations surrounding Tua's capabilities and the need for change within the franchise.

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24 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Chris Grier, Aaron Brewer, Miami Dolphins logo, Nick Hicks, Dive Bar Pod, Dante Moore. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "The Tua Era is OFFICIALLY Over | Tranquilo Sport Talk"?

The episode runs 52 min; the transcript is about 11,088 words in 233 timestamped sections.

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