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Matthew McConaughey (FULL EPISODE) | Where Everybody Knows Your Name

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Matthew McConaughey (FULL EPISODE) | Where Everybody Knows Your Name", an episode of Team Coco published January 7, 2026 (1 h 24 min, about 16,793 words). It mentions 23 people, works and ideas, including Ari Matthew, Poems and Prayers, Lost Bus, Days Confused, Ted.

What this episode is about

In this discussion, the group shares their experiences from a recent dinner outing featuring Jesse Eisenberg, highlighting the rarity of Teddy's participation and the enjoyable atmosphere that included camaraderie and tequila. The conversation touches on Teddy's usual social habits and the group's camaraderie, showcasing their lively interactions and shared memories.

Key takeaways

  • Teddy's rare dinner appearance: a testament that even introverts can break from their shells... occasionally.
  • Drinking metamorphosis from human to 'chromag': scientific proof that tequila indeed reverts us to our primal selves.
  • A cab ride in Vietnam: proving that effective communication is essential, especially after a few too many.
  • Good form for Teddy means no crying in the corner; he's evolved to participating in the chaos instead.
  • Life's little adventures: sometimes the best stories come from 4 AM cab rides and unclear motel names.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Jesse Eisenberg, Ari Matthew, Poems and Prayers, Ted
  2. – 20:00: Ari Matthew, Lost Bus, Poems and Prayers, Ted
  3. – 30:00: Ari Matthew, Days Confused, Don Phillips, UT
  4. – 40:00: Cheers, Richard Linklater, Nature's Bounty
  5. – 50:00: Ari Matthew, True Detective, Casey Woody, Nature's Bounty
  6. – 1:00:00: Days Confused, SMU, UT
  7. – 1:20:00: Ari Matthew, McCanni
  8. – 1:23:36: Ari Matthew, Nature's Bounty

Notable quotes from "Matthew McConaughey (FULL EPISODE) | Where Everybody Knows Your Name"

  • And, and, Teddy, was, in, good, form., I, was I, was What, What, does, good, form, define, good form for Teddy?
    about Ted · at
  • Yeah,, I, really, do., well,, Birmingham, I love this. Red enough to work, blue enough to dream. like southern royalty without the, queen.
    about Poems and Prayers · at
  • Well,, it's, worth, seeing., based, on 2018, the fires in Paradise, California.
    about Lost Bus · at
  • So, I'm, at, I'm, at, UT., I'm, in, my, between my junior and senior year. I've been in film school for one year. I go to this top of the Hyatt cuz the guy was bartending at the night was in my.
    about UT · at
  • What was Richard Linkletter's direction at that time.
    about Richard Linklater · at
  • He's, Russ, Cole, when, we, were, shooting that. He was Russ Cole. Yeah dude., There's, so, many, times, I, want, to punch this in the face. I'm so pissed at him.
    about True Detective · at
  • Was fun. But now you know. So now I want you talk about the What are you working on now? I'm working on an Apple series with you called Brothers.
    about Ari Matthew · at
  • I was 5 days into shooting that my, first acting, job,, my, first, film., Why, do, I, say there's grace in that? Because everything in my life prior, I remember.
    about Days Confused · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Ari Matthew — Person · Main guest / primary storyteller · 11 mentions · first at
    Central voice: discusses his book tour format, acting origin story (UT, Don Phillips, Linklater), projects ('True Detective', 'Brothers'), family, and health routines.
  • Ted — Person · Co-host / on-mic participant · 2 mentions · first at
    Active conversational partner in the opening dinner story, health/aging banter, and interview-style questioning throughout.
  • Don Phillips — Person · Referenced casting/producer figure · 1 mention · first at
    Key catalyst in the acting origin story: met at a bar near UT, provided the script and audition opportunity for Wooderson.
    Nothing about Hollywood. Talking about golf, we played a similar course. and Don, if you ever knew the great Don Phillips, who did cast Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Melvin and…
  • Richard Linklater — Person · Referenced director (career origin) · 2 mentions · first at
    Discussed as the director who shaped the Wooderson performance approach (music cassettes, world-building direction) and invited improvisation.
  • Casey Woody — Person · Referenced person / friend in stories · 1 mention · first at
    Appears as a close friend in multiple anecdotes (Vietnam trip, family 'brothers' dynamic) and is referenced as a social anchor in the hosts' friendship circle.
    And so times went on and then so Woody gets out about 400 a.m. decides it's time to go home. He gets in the cab with this Vietnamese cab driver and he don't know where the motel is and it's.
  • Paul Greengrass — Person · Referenced director · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the director to whom a self-tape was sent and who ultimately cast the speaker's son, highlighting nepotism/merit concerns.
    With a note saying, I think this might be good enough for a call back. She writes back 10 minutes later, I think it's good enough to send to Paul Greengrass, the director. Oh…
  • America Ferrera — Person · Referenced actor (cast member) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as playing teacher Mary Ludwig in 'Lost Bus', indicating notable casting and character function in the story.
    To go get the kids. When he picks up the 23 kids, there's a there's a teacher there, Mary Lewig, played by America Ferrer, who gets on the bus with him and they head out. It's…
  • Wim Hof — Person · Referenced expert / method origin · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as the originator of the cold-plunge practice discussed; framed as influential across sports and celebrity culture.
    The Wimhof method. The Wimhof is just that guy has figured something out that now think about it like this guy came along and now every sports team he's a crazy guy who just when.
  • Jesse Eisenberg — Person · Referenced guest (prior live interview) · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as someone they interviewed live the previous night as part of a Lionsgate-related event, setting the episode's opening context.
    We, interviewed, Jesse, Eisenberg, live.
  • McCanni — Person · Referenced family member (daughter) · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as 'my daughter McCanni' in the opening bar story; also appears as part of a family naming reference ('Miss McConn').
    Control. And then they were like Okay, we're ready to go. my Laura and my daughter McCanni and whoever else and I'm no, I think I think I'll stay, you know. And they're like No.
  • Dan Butner — Person · Referenced friend / travel companion · 1 mention · first at
    Named as part of the group on the Vietnam bike trip that sets up the 'If you don't know where you live...' story.
    We, meaning, myself,, this, man, here,, friend of ours, Dan Butner, friend of ours Matthew, who's out there in the lobby and some other good men.

Books & papers

  • Poems and Prayers — Book · Core topic (book being discussed) · 2 mentions · first at
    A central discussion object: they quote from it, discuss its themes (spiritual 'field beyond right/wrong'), and describe its creation over decades.

Companies & orgs

  • UT — Company · Referenced university (key life path) · 2 mentions · first at
    The speaker attended UT; being there led to the bar encounter with Don Phillips and the acting opportunity that launched his career.
  • SMU — Company · Referenced university option · 2 mentions · first at
    Appears in the story of choosing a college; used to contrast private-school cost vs UT and the path that led to meeting Don Phillips.
    Didn't make sense. I'm in Australia as an exchange student. I call him my I got into SMU. I got into SMU.
  • Lion's Gate — Company · Referenced company (event context) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as part of the context for the live Jesse Eisenberg interview ('Now you see me... Lion's Gate').
    Yeah., It, was, part, of, a, Now, you, see, me, now you don't. Lion's Gate.

Products & tech

  • Kendall Jackson — Product · Referenced product (wine) in anecdote · 1 mention · first at
    Appears in the Greece-family story that inspired the 'Brothers' series premise; used as a detail indicating the setting and tone.
    That's that's that's Woody. I thought that., And, then, all, of a, sudden, and, out of the, car, out, of, nowhere, my, mom, on probably her third glass Kendall Jackson goes Woody I knew.

Places & events

  • Paradise, California — Place · Core real-world event location · 1 mention · first at
    The 2018 Paradise wildfire is the real event basis for 'Lost Bus', including the death toll and evacuation story.
    Well,, it's, worth, seeing., based, on 2018, the fires in Paradise, California.

Media & podcasts

  • Lost Bus — Media · Core topic (film discussed) · 2 mentions · first at
    Discussed in detail: plot summary, real-world basis (Paradise 2018 fires), casting, and the three-generation family acting element.
  • Days Confused — Media · Core referenced work (career origin story) · 3 mentions · first at
    Central to the origin story of the Wooderson character and the speaker's acting break via Don Phillips and Richard Linklater.
  • True Detective — Media · Referenced prior work / shared project · 2 mentions · first at
    Used to illustrate preparation and character immersion; they recount on-set dynamics and how the show was experienced as viewers.
  • Cheers — Media · Referenced show (acting lesson example) · 2 mentions · first at
    Used as an example of live-audience timing and how presence near a joke can earn credit—an acting craft point.
    To have a listen and just be the person I mean Cheers, was, great, for, learning, you could have a small part and not a lot of jokes, but if you were standing next to the joke in a twoot you, got, as, much, credit, as, the, person,.
  • Rivals of Amzai — Media · Referenced film project · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as the project during which the speaker discovered Birmingham, Alabama and developed affection for the place.
    I, found, Birmingham, when, I, film., I, did Rivals of Amzai and I did not know that place existed in the state of Alabama and it did. And we fell in love with it and I met a lot of great.

Sponsors

  • Nature's Bounty — Company · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at
    Named as the episode sponsor with a mid-roll ad describing supplements (magnesium glycinate, probiotic, Vital Heart).
    Chasing youth. It's about feeling your best so you can keep doing what you love. Nature's Bounty believes your body is brilliant. They're just here to supplement you. With over…

Full transcript with timestamps

This episode of Where Everybody Knows Your Name is sponsored by Nature's Bounty.

Should, I, say, what, happened, last, night? Yeah, we went I, want, to, hear, what, happened, last, night.

A, rare, thing, where, Teddy, goes, to, dinner. You know, he usually is like, I'll meet you guys over there and then you don't see him. For sure. You don't see him.

I, do, an, Irish, entrance. Yes. Show, Irish, entrance., It's, a, no-show entrance.

I, work., I, have, a, ball., And, then, I, I, lie to my friend and say, "I'll catch up with you." And I go home to marry.

They've, been, doing, that., Very, very consistent. Yeah. Yeah. He's, been, very, consistent, since, 1984 doing that same move.

But, anyway,, last, night, he, did, the, rare thing and he actually went out to dinner.

Had, the, best, time. We, interviewed, Jesse, Eisenberg, uh, live. We've never done it last night.

We, never, done, it., Yeah. Yeah., It, was, part, of, a, Now, you, see, me, now you don't. Lion's Gate.

Was, he, Is, he, in, town? He, was, No,, he, went, back, this, morning. He, went, back.

Oh,, so, he, was, with, you, last, night. He, was, in, and, out. But, no,, no,, no,, no., Jesse, did, attent.

Jesse, said,, "I'll, catch, up, with, you." Oh,, he, did., Okay., He, did. And, he, went, straight, home.

Everybody, was, flip-fpping, places., But anyway, we went and we had a great meal uh over the Well, and then just had a lot of fun.

A, lot, of, tequila and, and, Teddy, was, in, good, form., I, was I, was What, What, does, good, form, define, good form for Teddy?

He's, not, in, the, corner, crying., He's actually participating participating,, having, conversations,, you know. He curls up into, you know, like those little doodle bugs curl up into a ball. You can't see their feet, nothing.

Yeah,, that's, what, he, does. Austin's, good, for, me,, man. But, you, really, did., He, had, a, good, time. And then afterward, this is what he's looking for this story for is afterward uh went to um this Mscow bar, which was really fun.

Uh, and, I, had, about, So, I, had, four, drinks at the restaurant and then four at the Mosscow bar. I thought I got my drinking fully under control, but last night I guess you couldn't call that under control. And and then they were like "Okay, we're ready to go." you know, my Laura and uh and and you know, my daughter McCanni and whoever else and I'm like, "Uh, no, I think I I think I'll stay, you know." And they're like "No no

you, were, going to, stay. You, got, to, go.", I, said, "No,, I'm, going to stay. I'm going to have another drink." And I'll be making I'll be alone.

No,, he, ced anyway., I, came, very, was, Was, Laura, there? Laura, was, I, wasn't, there, from, the, arm twisting there. Yeah.

Go,, No,, sir., you're, going, to, come, leave. I mean it, was, finally, Ilia, that, insisted, you got to go and kind of got through.

You, need, to, put, a, table, of, content, for the next minute. You think I know where it was.

If, you, if, you've, had, a, certain, amount, of uh alcohol, there's some kind of metamorphosis happens with you where you become somewhat of a chromag. I mean, is that a bad thing to say?

No., Are, you, talking, about, me, in particular? Yeah,, you. Okay., Right., Anyway,, so, what, I, know, you mean there's a Yeah, it goes it goes mammal, chromag, primate. Yeah, it goes big at least to the beginning category.

Vocab, English, language, is, not, necessary. Exactly., It's, mostly, grunts, and, and moans and little things like charades.

Yeah., Yeah. Yeah., Charades., There's, a, lot, of physicality. And then, you know, so that's where I was at last night.

Oh,, you, were? Yeah. Getting, closer, to, all, fours., I, was, in, MM mode. Yeah. Yeah. I was going I was the the I wasn't the ascent of man. I was the descent of man.

And, I'd, gone, from, homo, erectus, and, then I was curved more and more toward the floor.

I, think, that's, a, healthy, place, to, go, to from time to time in this bipedal world we're in.

Every, once, in, a, while,, dude. Yeah., I've, been, working, too, hard. I'm, I'm, not, finding, that, poem., But, I'm going to I'm going to sit there and I tell you what. I'll tell the story anyway. We're in Vietnam. um on a bike ride across the country.

We we, meaning, myself,, this, man, here,, friend of ours, Dan Butner, friend of ours Matthew, who's out there in the lobby and some other good men.

And, I, don't, know,, what, do, we, ride, a, day? How many miles? 20, 30, 40, 50.

Yeah,, something, like, that., You, know,, it was a good it was a healthy day, right?

And, we're, staying, in, little, huts, and place along the way and motel and da da da. We get this one place was like the big city, but it would meaning it was a town of about 300 people. Yeah.

Anyway,, staying, in, the, motel, and, there's a there's a there's everything a bar downtown downtown, however many blocks away that is down the dirt road.

And, he, uh, he, goes, out, to, that, uh, and, we all tuckered. We all the rest of us go to sleep.

And, he, goes, out, to, that, and, uh said, "I'm staying a longer." And said "I met some great people. We rolled one there, man. Great man. These guys they're great, man." And so times went on on and then so Woody gets out about 400 a.m. decides it's time to go home. He gets in the cab with this Vietnamese cab driver and he don't know where the motel is and it's pitch black. There's no street lights nothing. And he's in there and he's going, "It's down. Do you know the he doesn't, know how, to, pronounce, the, name we're at? If you even remembered what the name was, what the name it was."

None of the above. And, he's, going, on, trying, to, figure, this out. And the cab driver, what's he say in Vietnamese? or he said it into his phone in Vietnamese and it came out of his phone.

Translate., We, had, gotten, into, we, had gone I knew it was this direction. But, then, we, got, to, the, first, fork, in, the road. It couldn't go cuz it don't know whether it's this to the right or the left.

Yeah. And, finally, he's, sitting, there, waiting. I'm, with, my, buddy., He's, like, looking, on his phone. Looking on his phone. He can't find where the name of the play. And finally he he Google translate and he turns back. 15 minutes he's been sitting at this crossroads, right? Guy turns back and it says, "If you don't know where you live, I can't take you home."

I, thought, that, something, about engraved that one right there. I'm going down that more than put it more of the poems in there. If you don't know where you live, I cannot take you home, sir.

Yeah,, dude., I, I, love, this, book,, man., I love it. Me, too. Poems and prayers.

Praise, and, point., Poems. Poems, and, prayers. Now, that, that, that, was, a, big, old, chunk of writing. So is did you sit down to write this book or is this a accumulation of over time?

Over, 36, years, of, poems, that, it's, been writing in prayers. I, have, some, of, my, favorites.

Oh, yeah. Yeah,, I, really, do., Um, well,, Birmingham, I love this. Red enough to work, blue enough to dream. like southern royalty without

the, queen. So, good. You, ever, been, to, Birmingham? That, is No,, but, I, I'm, married, to, Little, Rock, you know, Mary. So I this rings, you know,

I, love, that. I, found, Birmingham, when, I, film., I, did Rivals of Amzai and I did not know that that place existed in the state of Alabama and it did. And uh we fell in love with it and I met a lot of great people there.

Lot, of, good, music., A lot, of, great, music., Muscle, Scholes, right up north of there. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of good music.

Yeah., Yeah., They, had, some, trouble, back in the day. I think you know that's all people think about, you know, who haven't been there.

Well,, Little, Rock,, too., It, was, the, same. Well,, yeah., Yeah., Yeah., And, but, now, I guess it's turned into quite a place. I never been there forward. I think it's fair to say it's on the way forward.

On, the, way, forward. Let, me, do, another, one., This, is, not, just me proving to you that I read your your book, but it helps. Um and did this you wrote something that uh actually made me think of this so sorry but a lot of your writing this is some this is roomie I remember

the, he, has, a, great, phrase, beyond, all right and wrong there's, a, field, I, will, meet, you, there and a lot of your

not, a, lot, but, I, saw, that, kind, of, running through a lot of what you were saying about

I, yeah, I, think, I'm, inclined, to, talk about, that, space, and, at least, p, pursue that pace.

Yeah. Beyond, logic,, right, and, wrong,, and, into that place which is more valuebased which is more spiritual, which is an open field that does not have a border or fences or judgments because it's not needed.

Um,, here, we, need, it., And, are, we, equipped to, define, as, as, mankind,, right,, and wrong, good for me. Sometime we were having we're having a tough time doing that. We've always had a tough time doing that. We will continue to have a time tough time to do that. So I'm trying to sell to myself and others a higher ground that's above politics. That's above the right and wrong that we sit there and we we see as contradiction so often in in that place where it's the paradox. I believe that's where the truth lives.

I, call, it, anarchy. Anarchy. Yeah., I'm, saying, it's, beyond, politics, but, it, has, form.

Huh? But, it, has, form., Does, anarchy, have, form? Anarchy, has, form., What's, the, form, of anarchy?

It's, a, form, of, uh, saying, uh, we, don't need your government dude. I'm just spitballing here. I'm spitballing. Hey. Uh, but I do, you know, I gotta say, you know, I I I would hear these poems over the years different poems and different, you know he'd send me he'd just come up with it you know, uh

before, breakfast, you'd, send, me, a, thing and it just and it and he's just riffing and it is incredible, right? And I'm thinking then I hear him say, "Oh, you know, I'm doing this book, poems and prayers." And I'm thinking he's going to now make a book of all these things he's just been I thought these were just And then he he releases the book number one book goes to number one just like his last one and at the same time

yeah, it's, cool he, comes, out, with, a, movie, lost, book number one movie in the world that more people are seeing than any other movie and I'm thinking when is it Who was Has that ever happened to anybody? Like number one book, number one movie at the same time? What do you think?

Pretty, cool. Pretty, cool. I, tell, you, what, was, cool., Um,, and, I heard this hadn't happened since the Douglas family in Lost Bus. I'm in two scenes with my mom and my son.

Three,, three, generations. That, was, really, cool. What, did, they, do, that, had, all, three, of them in it?

She, played, my, mother, and, not, you., No, I'm saying what did the I, don't, know, what, it, was., I, don't, know. That's what I was told.

I, didn't, I, didn't, go, look, up. That's, pretty, cool. Forgive, me,, but, tell, me, about, Lost, Bus. Tell me about it. I haven't seen it. Forgive me.

Well,, it's, worth, seeing., Um, based, on 2018, the fires in Paradise, California. Um 86 people I think uh deceased from the fire. So, it was the worst deadliest wildfire in California history. And amongst many of the heroic stories on that day, um Jaime Lee Curtis heard one on NPR and pulled over and said, "This is a story worth telling." It's a story about this uh guy who had come back home cuz his dad had died. In our version of the story, his dad had died and he had a son that he was estranged from from an ex-wife and he was taking care of his widowed mom. Took a job as a part-time bus driver. Um this one morning took picked up kids, took them to school like any other day. Fires a fire was crossing the canyon. They happened all the time.

No alarm. Everybody, you know, it'll it'll it won't jump the canyon, etc. etc. Um anyway, uh that that everything will be okay turned into an mandatory evacuation real quick. And this guy U-turns the bus to go home and get his mom who can't drive and his son who's too young to drive. And on the way, he gets a call from dispatch. bus dispatch. I got 23 stranded kids on the east side of town. Does anybody on the east side of town have an empty bus? Well, guess who's got an empty bus? This guy, Kevin McCay. So, he's got to make that decision. Oh. And he makes the decision to go get the kids. When he picks up the 23 kids, there's a there's a teacher there, Mary Lewig, played by America Ferrer, who gets on the bus with him and they head out. It's supposed to be a quick 10-minute drop off to their parents at another location, and then they'll be on their way. Well, that drop off was already burning and there was no

one there. So, this is a story about the next eight hours of them trying to get out of this. That's the story we chose to tell.

And, his, mother, and, son, watch, the, movie., I, I, won't, tell, the, end. Okay., All right., All, right.

But, his, mother, and, son, in, the, movie played my mother. My mother and my son actually played

Oh,, wow. My, mom, and, my, son., Cool, thing., I, want, to hear y'all's opinion on this.

Um, Levi,, my, son., I, didn't, know, he, was interested in being in front of the camera, but as I do, you come home. What do you kind of work you doing, Dad? You kind of pitch it to people. And it's kind of good for our craft to pitch it in an elevator, right? Or to a child or to a grandmother. Different ages. You kind of got kind of tell it different ways, right? And I got to the part in the pitch about there being this character of mine having a son. And Levi goes, "How old is he?" I said, "About your age, 15." Goes, "Can I read for it?" And I gave him the cold shoulder.

He comes to me the next day. Can I read for it? Four more times. He bugs me pests me. Says, "All right, you can read for it. Let's pick out a scene." He goes, "I got a scene ready. I'm ready.

Okay., Pull, out, the, camera., Boom., Put them on camera on my on my, you know mobile device. Kid can hold a frame. I threw him a few things that weren't scripted. He was able to respond honestly. I was like, "All right, those are the basic goods that you need for this job." He did pretty good. We did two takes. I send it to casting director with a note saying, "I think this might be good enough for a call back." She writes back 10 minutes later, "I think it's good enough to send to Paul Greengrass, the director." Like, "Oh okay." And it hit me. And I was like "Oh, if you do that, can you remove his last name?"

Yeah., Yeah., Smart. That's, what, Camila, and, I, thought, right then. She did. He got the part. Then she said, "That's Matthew's son and Paul Greengrass goes even better." But that thought I think, you know, that's a fun subject for us to talk about. I mean, you know if he'd got the job on with the last name, maybe he gets it on the he had the same work, he would have got the job on his merit because he got it anyway. But would he have had an inkling in the back of his mind, oh did my last name

because, it, connected, to, my, dad, help, me get that job? And would that have always been the back of his mind if someone else said it, which if he gets into the business, people are going to say that anyway. Sure.

Would, he, have, had, that? And, you, know,, kind, of, goes, back, Camila wanted to if we had a son, wanted to name him Matthew. And I didn't want it to be Matthew because I didn't want to go out junior and I didn't want that to happen

in, in, through, his, career., But, I'm, glad we did it, you know, on that on that day and pulled his last name and then he he got the part so he knows he got it all.

Did, he, were, doing, that? Keeping, his, last, name, off. No,, I, didn't. I, didn't, tell, him., The, director, told, him the story.

That's, great. Paul,, when, he, called, him? Yeah. Yeah., He's, really, good., Really, good., And uh unnaturally handsome. So yeah, you guys differ from each other in that one regard. Hey, you okay buddy?

Best, legs, in, the, business, right, there. You seen him in a pair of shorts? Coming, from, the, best, torso,, man., That means a lot to me.

This, guy's, got, some, legs, on, him,, doesn't he? He's, got, some, motorcycle, wounds, that we're not seeing because that was pedal wounds.

You, know,, that did you hear about this one? No., Don't, talk, about, this. There, was, one, rock, the, the the, parking lot was two acres

perfectly, smooth, cement., And, then, in, the middle was a two foot by two foot rock.

I, just, had, right because, you, were because, no I wasn't you know hey because you know why do you want to just ride a motorcycle rubber tires on smooth pavement. I love anarchy. He says go for the go for the second time. Second time we've been shooting our series brothers. Second time he's come in with facial wounds that imposti are going to have quite a bit of CGI.

I, have, to, try, to, run, one, here, and, one here. He, I, must, say, he, healed, quick, though.

He, does. You, want, to, put, that, on, there? Not, even, by, the, end, of, the, before, the first week was out.

These, these, were, gone. And, we, just, had, to, cover, with, a, little makeup though.

No, problem., Cuz, they, were, red. Yeah. Yeah. Can, you, see, them, or, No. No., Are, you, perfect?, You, came, around. I'm good. Good. Good. What's What's you mind me asking? You can tell You can tell me none of your f in business, but you mind me asking how old you are, Ted?

78 in December. So, sorry. 77. All right., Y'all, got, video., You're, on video. Doesn't he look great? That's what I'm saying.

Look, at, this Talk, to, us., What, is, the, secret?, I, asked you this when I when we just met that Woody's birthday party. Bowling. Yeah.

Can, you, share, some, secrets?, And, I, know it's got to have to be more than just you take cold showers.

No,, no,, no,, no., It's, you, you, you, need, to have a pretty shallow cut on life.

Mary, and, I, talk, about, hair, products., We keep, it, shallow. Okay. Yeah. Keep, it, shallow.

So,, just, keep, it., Here's, here's, the, big one. Mirror time. You need to spend at least two, three hours a day just looking in the mirror because you don't age. You'll notice if you look at yourself in the mirror, you don't go "Oh, I'm getting older."

No, matter, how, even, at, the, end, of, that third hour, you don't catch one more little wrinkle coming in.

No,, no,, no., That's, why, I, don't, sleep much. No,, but, health. Thank, you,, bud.

No,, but, but, but thank, you., I, appreciate, it. No,, but, I, mean, from, a, I, can, also, You're a guy. I can see from 100 yards away walking and just the way you carry yourself. Not even see you up close and go, that's a healthy good-look dude right there inside and out by the way you carry yourself. So, I'm saying it's more than just topical serums, which I'm big on those, too. But, I mean, it's got to have something to do with diet, the company you keep, the lack of stress. Give me Am I hitting any buttons here?

Let, me, Yeah,, all, of, them., Let, me, let, me let me ask you, have you ever heard our podcast? Because it's a running joke that people know to compliment me somehow, anything early on because it puts me at ease. You'll find that this the rest of this hour is going to go really well. It

It's, going, to, go because, I'm, now, super, relaxed., Yeah., You see, you seemed so stressed before I brought that up.

Yeah,, I, was the, stress, he, was, under, before, my If, he, don't, get, six, compliments, by midday, something's not going right.

I, get, wrinkles., No,, no,, no,, no., I, tapped it like no. Oh,, I, thought, you, meant, yes, more.

Oh,, all, right. It's, all right. It'll it'll evaporate. It's like looking in the mirror. It'll always be there for you more pores. Hey, so I want to I want to ask you a question about something that you've been asked a million times, but I feel like it's just one of those mandatory things. It's got to be on this podcast

huh? The, dimples. Yeah,, the, dimples., Where, the, you get those dimples? Come, on.

Come, on. They're, from, mom. What, I, was, I, want, him, and, my, mom, act have a major crush on each other. Before we get started, do you know I do my mother, and, mom, and I, have, been, kicked out of two bars

for, smoking, marijuana, as, my, dad, would call for smoking joints together, setting, off, fire, alarm, one.

The, other, one, was, just, like, that's illegal. What the h y'all doing? Get out of here., And, they, ran.

We, ran., That's, right., And, my, mom. Well,, we, ran, the, first, time,, too.

Yeah. And, you, got, away, both, times,, didn't, you? That, big, fire, alarm., Both, times, we, got out of trouble. Oh

it, gets talk, about, I'm, staying, when, he, and, my mom get together. Wow., Were, you, there, or, were, you

She's, fun,, man. I, was, in, the, I, was, in, another, room having a beer at the bar or something like that. Anyway

do, you, smoke, ever?, But, just, not, now, or No., No., You, don't, want, him, smoking.

Oh,, I, go a little puff last night. Did, you?, No,, I, go, that, new, stuff. I, faked, a, puff.

Fake, the, puff. The, new, the, new, the, new, stuff, does, not agree with my constitution and my mental makeup. Uh it goes the other way. Time speeds up for me. I've chipped uh um

front, tooth, three, times. Um falling out of a tree on a full moon when I smoke some of that stuff Woody has.

Mary, and, I, didn't, smoke, for, the, long trees. Three of Danks all full moons.

This, is, what, I, do, on, on, dope., Um, Mary, uh wasn't smoking and so I when we met so I okay I'm not going to smoke either and we didn't smoke for like two or three years and then we went out with friends we were at two bunch ponds you know the hot springs and everything

and, we, went, oh, let's, smoke, and, so we and Mary's going we had so much fun together this is going to be amazing I smoked and she said she turned around and the whole night I went underwater held my breath breath. Come up, take a breath, and go back down. That was my entire stoned experience with my wife.

You, were, submarine, that I, was., Yeah. That's, the, secret, it, didn't, say, about looking so young. Staying so young.

Don't, do, cold, water., Do, hot, water. Shallow. Oh,, we've, been, doing, cold, shallow.

Don't, seek, that, stuff. Me, and, Matthew, got, into, a, competition, on the cold plunge. And it started out like real gentle like three minutes and then he'd do four minutes and then I'd do five minutes and then he'd do seven minutes and then you know and it kept going up and up and then at one point I did 13 minutes. I'm like I got him now. The very same day that night unbeknownst to me when I went in to tell him I did 13 minutes he goes I did 17

17, minutes. You, guys, still, do, it? It's, my, He, It's, It's, my, deal. Oh, really?, because, he, sent, one, back, the next day where he did 24

minutes., 23. So, you, 59, thought, 239. No,, I, won't, do, I, won't, do, it, every, day. If I I mean if I if I can I try to get 50 minutes a week, but I don't do it religiously.

Wow. I, think, it's, one, of, the, great, things. the Wimhof method. The the Wimhof is just that guy has figured something out that now think about it like this guy came along and now every sports team you know, he's a crazy guy who just when he was like 11 years old, he's in the Netherlands in the winter, he's like I'm going in that pond.

Yeah. And, he, went, in, to, the, pond, in, the, night for, a, full, minute, and, it, was, like freezing, you know. And now every sports team, every you know uh Madonna, every every uh you know, they all do the our age. The big wave surfer.

Oh, yeah,, he, does, it. Those, guys, those, Oh,, yeah. Can, I, get, back, to, uh, the, question, I, was about? God, you guys are tough, man.

But, quickly,, why, one, sock?, No, that's, a, great, question., You, know,, I just want to leave that uh untouched. Oh, is that a foot that's injured? Do you need a little more? You want the sores to get a little more air?

Give, it, air., Yeah. Do, you, want, us, to, rub, it? No., You, want, to, blow, on, it?

My, blowing, on, it, might, help., No., No., I don't want anyone touching or blowing on it.

Or, licking. Or, licking., Hey,, speaking, of, rub,, you got your own rub. Your own the meat. You rub your meat with that rub.

What, are, you, doing? Got, my, own, meat, rub. I'm, sorry., It's, called, the, one., It, is.

It's, a, meat, rub. Okay. It's, called, the, one., And, actually,, as, a vegan, I love it. It's all It's vegan.

Oh,, wait., This, is, on, the, market, kind, of thing. It's, out, of, my, own, out, of, my, own, kitchen only so far. But

So,, are, you, pepper, hot?, Hot., You, like hot? No., No., No., No. So,, this, isn't, that.

It's, not, a, spicy, thing., It's, just makes, every, meat, taste, better. Incredible spice.

Delicious. He's, derailing, a, really, interesting. I, want, to, get, back, to, the, question.

Oh,, yeah. No., Oh,, I'm, derailing, question. I'll, go, and, then, I'll, go. You, know,, I, think, our, listeners, are like, these guys have no structure. They got no ideas. They just ramble and that's their job. You know what I mean?

You, wouldn't, have, it, any, other, way, would you? I, wouldn't, have, it, any, other, way.

All right., So,, you, used, your, shot, at going someplace. So, so the question was I got to get back to Wooderson

because this is one of the great original stories ever, you know and, so, I, just, want, you, to, tell, me, like, I know you were in a bar, you were going to UT. I'm at

and, then, then, someone, said, that, guy, down there cast Shawn Penn and in Fast Time.

So, I'm, at, I'm, at, UT., I'm, in, my, between my junior and senior year. I've been in film school for one year. Uh I go to this top of the Hyatt cuz the guy was bartending at the night was um in my film class and he'd give me a free vodkin tonic, right? So I go in there and uh he comes up and he says there's a guy, at, the, end, of the, bar, who's, in, town producing a film. And I went over there, introduced myself. 3 and 1/2 hours later, we get kicked out because we had played this, we got in talking about golf. We weren't talking about acting or nothing like that.

Nothing about Hollywood. Talking about golf, we played a similar course. and Don, if you ever knew the great Don Phillips, who did cast Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Melvin and Howard, he produced as well. Um, with Art Linson worked with him for a while and then he cast he was casting Days Confused. I didn't know this at the time, but all I knew is he was a producer. He's on the top of some table going, "Yeah, and then I was over here and I hit this three iron like this and it was just beautiful. Knocked it up there 16 blah blah blah." We get kicked out on the cab ride home. He's riding with me. I'm going back to my apartment. He's like, "Hey, you ever done any acting?" I said, "Yeah, I was in a middle lake commercial for about that long. I don't know if you consider that acting. Maybe it was more of a modeling job." He said "Well, well, you you you might be right for this part in the in in the script.

It's this guy named David Wood. He's like your age, 21, 22. He's out of out of high school, but he still likes the high, school, girls., All right., Come, to this address tomorrow morning, 9:30 a.m. I'll have the script waiting for you." And this is now 3:30 in the morning. All right. Drops me off. say good night. I get up whatever four and a half hours later, go down there and damn it there's this script with two pages earmarked and a handwritten note. Hey Matthew, great night last night. That I read this part. You might be right for it. I read the part. There's Wooderson and one of the scenes was him sitting outside of the billiard's uh uh uh pool hall talking to his buddies and girls walk by and he leans over and checks out their backside and his buddy says "What? You got to cut that out, man.

You're going to go to jail, man. And Wooderson says, "No, man. That's what I love about them high school girls, man. I get older, but they stay the same age." That line. And that's the scene that was

about, the, extent, of, your, part,, too. There wasn't much. There, were, three, I, think, there, were three three lines.

Yeah., Yeah. Two, scenes., Three, lines,, I, think. Anyway,, but, when, you, get, a, line, like that

Yeah. It's, what, I, call, a, launchpad, line., Who is that guy? Yeah., Who?, Who?, And, I, remember, going, "Who is that guy?" If that's not an attitude, if he didn't say that line for everyone to laugh, if he's like, "No that's my mo. That's how I see the world, man. That's my philosophy. I've got it fig."

You, can, write, a, book, on, that, person. Yeah. Right. You know what that person's eating. You know what kind of car they drive. You know what they do, what they don't do. Anyway

so, I'm, trying, to, figure, out, who, the, guy is. I got two weeks before the audition and uh what had hit me was I remember when I was 10 years old going with my mom to go pick up my brother Pat at school. His car something was wrong with it was in the shop. He was he was 17 in high school so he drove. But we this day we were supposed to pick him up because his car was in the shop. And we're driving through the campus and I'm looking out the back end of that wood panled station wagon. I'm looking for patch. He says, "Where is he? Supposed to be here." And I'm like, "I don't know where he is." And as we going by about 200 yards away, I see this shadowed figure leaning against the shady wall in the smoking section. And I can see the ember of this lazy finger cigarette hanging on these two hands. This guy's leaning against the wall with his left leg, boot heel up against the wall smoking. And I went, it was my brother.

And I went, there's and I stopped because I knew if I said there's Pat mom saw him smoking, he's going to get trouble. So she goes, what? I go nothing. Nothing. Nothing. and we drove on. Never picked up Pat that day. He got home. She was like, "Where were you?" He made up some excuse. Anyway, in my 10year-old eyes, to my 17-year-old brother, who was my hero in that shot from 200 yards away, he was cooler than James Dean. He was 9 ft tall. He was the coolest man.

Yeah. Now,, that's, who, I, based, Wooderson, on. That wasn't who my brother was, but that in my 10-year-old eyes, that's who it was.

That, image. And, so,, went, in,, read, for, it,, got, the part. I remember Rick Linklair going "This isn't you." I said, "No, but I know who I know who this guy is." And laid back and shoulder back and Redford Woodson got the part. The first night I go to set, we did a wardrobe hair makeup test over by the top notchotch. I was not supposed to work that night. It was just to come in test. Y'all know how that goes. And I come out my peach pants and hair and everything. And you know link letter director comes off set to look at me. He walks around me. He's like, "Yeah, Wood." All right, man. I see the peach pent. Yeah. Is that a pipe? Is that a Black Panther tattoo?

Oh, the coma over cool. And I'm like "All right." And I said, "All right man. Well, I'll see you next week." He goes, "Hang on a second." He goes, "I got this girl in the scene that she's the redheaded intellectual played by Marissa Rabci. She's kind of pulling up. It's last day of school. She's with all her friends. They're kind of nerdy. You think Wooderson would maybe pick her up?" I was like, "Yeah, man. Wooderson likes all kinds of shit." Next thing I know, I'm getting a lavalier mic put on me and I'm sitting in my car going, "This is the first scene and nothing is written. All I know is I'm going to pull up and go try to pick her up." And I'm getting a little anxious, right? But I'm telling myself I ask myself, who's my man? Who's do I love? And I'm like, "All right, all right. I love my car. Here we go." Boom.

I'm in my 70 Chevel. There's one. I said, "I love rock and roll." I said "Damn, man. I got nent strangle hole jamming in the eight track right now. There's two." I said, "I love to get high." I said, "Well, look, Slater's riding shotgun. He's always got a doobie rolled, up,, all, of a, sudden, I, hear action." And as I look up, I look across and there's that redheaded intellectual played by Marissa Rabiesi. I put it in drive. And in my mind, I said, I got three out of the things that I love in my life, and I'm going to get the fourth. Put it, drive, pull out to affirm those three that I have. All right. All right. All right, that was the three affirmations of the three things I had going to get the fourth.

And we pulled up, improvised that scene. Bunch of people laughed. Felt kind of good to me.

And, Rick, said,, "Great.", And, he, kept inviting me back to the set to be in scenes that I was not written in. And it started to fill a story.

I, just, do, one, little, footnote. Yeah. He, was, offcreen, when, he, said, those words. All right. All right. All right. that became like

yeah,, how, did, that, become part, of, the, lexicon because, it's, it's, a, shot, from, on, top, of the next building and you just see the car pull up and you hear all right, all right, all right. And then you come down and introduce pulling up and they were they were offscreen. First three words I ever said on screen

which, have, become, iconic., That's, pretty cool. Which, that's, when, people, go,, you, get tired of hearing that. I'm like, hell no, man. That's the first three words I said in a scene that I was not written into that I didn't know on that night. Would this be this one night I worked on a film set in 1992? Oh, remember that fun time back in '92? That little hobby. And it turned out to be a career. So I'm like, say it anytime.

Back, up, a, second., How, did, you, have, the confidence, the balls, the whatever? I mean, just listening you describe your process in that moment, having never acted before is full of so much confident.

So,, where, did, that Before, you, do, that,, pull, the, front, of your shirt down. Just pull like just take a pull. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to take it down a notch, isn't it? Just

you, could, undo, that,, but, I, need, to relax. Greatest, torso., Greatest, torso, in, the industry. All right.

How, did, I, have, it?, Um, yeah, parents. Well,, I, mean,, part, I, mean,, I, guess, I've always been I've had a pretty good batting average when it came to bam you're on, you're on, go. And it's fight or flight, so let's let's let's go. Let's swing. Let's swing big. Um, I did where I had where I understood at that time, which now that I know so much more 36 years later, is a great instinct to have. You affirm who is what do what does your man have that he loves? What what do you have that you want and what do you need that you don't have? That's basic, you know, what do you need?

What's the obstacle? What's the event? So, I was knew who my guy who Wooderson was. Um through that image, that fuzzy image of my brother

but, how, did, you, know, to, look, for, that? That's what I mean. Not everybody you know, comes to that those choices or thoughts without some sort of something. That was well said, huh?

I, look, uh, let, me, say, this. What was what was Richard Linkletter's direction at that time.

Some, of, the, best, direction, that, we, can ever get. He gave each character, each actor a cassette with music that he goes, "This is what I think your character might be listening to. Have a listen. You You like some of Maybe you liked it, maybe you don't."

So,, you're, not, being, told, what, to, do, but you're put in a world. And I've got this cassette with some great Dylan and some Nent, some Zeppelin on it, Arrol Smith. And I'm just going

"All, right,, this, is, Saturday, night stuff man. Let's, get, the, shoulder.", All, of a sudden,, the, shoulders, go, back., All, of a sudden, the the you know, you're not walking head first. No, you're walking first., You, know what, I, mean?, That there's all of a sudden that it's how you stand, how you move. What's the You know,

that's, so, cool., and, a, guy, who's, going not a tres not trespassing anybody's face man on the back side of every wave and that's kind of why when I look around that's what my loved about my brother that's what I thought he he was cool he was always just like didn't they intrude man and those people that don't intrude like that you're kind of attracted to them because you're like

they, just, kind, of, draw, you, to, them because they're not trying to sell, you, anything, they're, not, trying, to

convert, you, to, anything, they're, and, I always love since then finding a character that what is it about a character that you can go that person's not trying to solicit that they are who they are they trust that in there's a place where they will be there's places where they should not be I even I've learned this since that since then when I rewatched that film at the end of the film this is the end of three weeks work now says all right gang they're going to get Aerosmith tickets all right gang let's load, up, I'm, going, to, get, I'm, going to get mail toast anderson gets in his car well the scene went on a while and what and I got out of the car and went back to the scene and growing the group.

Waters would have never done that. I shouldn't have gone back. Waters never two-stepped. And I went back into a scene. It's where I learned, oh, it's just as important where you are not as where you are.

That's, great. And, I'm, sitting, there, innocently, going, I got more possible screen time, man. I'm having a great time. Three weeks work. I want to keep let me go get myself back in the scene. And I was a little hasty looking back. I was like uhuh. That was false. Wood would have never gone one place then returned.

Well,, hold, on., Hold, on., One, very important thing to throw on top of that which is actors want to be where the camera is pointing

100%. And, you, notice, like, every, actor, in, every scene in every movie, every show as they're walking out, the camera's behind them.

They, always, turn, over, their, shoulder. They, always, turn, back,, take, a, look, whatever. Maybe say something. Yeah. Okay. But then there's also good examples of and you saw I I saw, you know, Shalamé do it in the with the Dylan with the Dylan uh role.

He, never, looked, in, the, camera., He, was always shading himself off the edges. Yeah.

Just, to, the, shadows., And, you're, drawn, to that. So, there's, certain, things,, you, know,

unless, it's, too, self-conscious. He's, a, hell, of, an, actor. I, don't, mean, he, was., I, just, mean, for you. I think

you, can, be., We've, also, seen,, and, I've done it, over choreographed in a role. You're like

"Yeah, you, got, all, these, little, parts, working. You made all these great choices, but just like maybe cut them and just just to have a listen and just be the person you know, I mean

Cheers, was, great, for, learning, like, you you could have a small part and not a lot of jokes, but if you were standing next to the joke in a twoot

you, got, as, much, credit, as, the, person, you know, it didn't matter. just you, know

and, the, old, John, Cle, that, group, the third man the straight man. Yeah. On, the, outside, joke, if, you, cut, the, go that's that that's the audience laugh that's the audience

response, to, the, joke, is, is, really, where the laugh comes from a lot of it's, a, good, joke, cuz, cheers, would, be, we were always live because you can count how many cheer stories I tell and then cut me off at about three. Okay.

Okay. I, don't, I, I, love, it., It's, like, all right all right I I love it. You want to talk about cheers? Sure.

Okay., So,, big, precenium, arch, kind, of set, you know, the whole it was a Okay,, that's, enough., So,, no, kidding, kidding. Kidding.

Okay., So,, you, had, to, stay, live, and everyone was acting and whatever, even if the camera was over here shooting or singing, but if you had a joke that was good, people would be you'd notice that your fellow mates were crossing right behind you in that shot. You know, they were in that shot. If you had a clunker which you would know throughout the week, it was like, you know, tumble weeds. It's like, where the did everybody everyone is duck down to get a glass?

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Forgive, my, ignorance. I, have, not. Any, desire, or, do, you, just, go? I'm, getting, a, taste, of, it, now., I've, been doing this road tour with the book and I took the book instead of doing a go to bookstore signed book book tour. I went and got some rent out theaters invite I come out with a 22-minute sermon and then I invite a musical guest up and they play a company like a 12 poem playlist and that's this really the first time I've been on stage.

You, must, love, it, though, because, you, do tell good stories. You're telling that story., I, do, love, it., And, I'm, going to, do some more of it.

Yeah,, that's, cool. He, He's, got, some, pretty, cool, freaking musical accompaniment. Like great.

Can, this, wasn't, a, poem., Sorry,, I, just jotted a few things to happen. You're, prepared, for, the, day, so, you, can saunter through instead of racing through it. And I love that you said sauna because you do saunter better than anyone I have ever met or seen.

Saunter. Saunter., Your, word, to, throw, it, back, at you. part of the when, you, prepare, and, dive, deep, the doing, the playing is waiting through the shallows. As you were bringing up earlier, it's much shallower water that you saunter through if you prepare for the ocean. You're out there just skipping rocks on the puddle.

You're, one, of, the, great, preparers,, dude. You are prepared. You are like militantly prepared.

Like,, and, it's, great., And, then everyone's like, "You're so cool. You're like you say in the book, you know you're so cool, you're so chill. Well he is because he's so prepared so on top of it, right?

That, you've, always, been, that, way, to, try to be Well, remember when we did True Detective, I used to go into cuz he had the timeline. I mean, it was way too confusing for this little brain. And he had the timeline in his airirstream all the way stretched out across. And I'd before the scene, I'd go in and I'd look like, okay, oh, oh, here we are. Oh, and that just happened. Okay, let's go.

And, that, was, a, like, a, musical, meter cuz, especially, we, were, doing, a, big, a long series

you, know,, you, always, it's, good, to, know when you're going to scene where we just come from and where we going to, where do we fit, what just happened? So, kind of know.

Did, you, have, the, whole, script, at, your disposal before you started? Was the whole thing written?

Yeah., Yeah,, I, think, you, we, had, all eight. I, bet, it, was., It, was, too, thoughtful.

I, think, we, did, or, at least, a, few, were, a few episodes of by the time we started.

We, had, two, before, we, even, signed, on, or you signed on first. You, both, were, so, good, in, that., Really good.

I, missed, that, show,, man. I, missed, that, show., My, f, even, though we're in it, I'm have no problem saying that was my favorite thing on

that, you, ever, did on, TV., Favorite, my, favorite, thing, to watch TV?, You, mean, the, only, thing, you, ever, did on TV before now was your favorite thing you ever

I'm, saying, the, enjoyment, I, got, from watching Truth and I didn't watch it like I didn't I had everything. I didn't watch it. I watched it like everyone else on Sunday night was the first time I saw it with Camila. Following food 8:00 whatever it was HBO we're sitting down undivided watching it. So and I don't I didn't remember where the series where the where the episode breaks were. So I was like everyone else going, "Oh what's going to happen next?" or "Where do we?" So I I whatever it was, 10 part eight part, it I watched it once a week like everyone else.

Oh, yeah., Yeah., You, know,, he, method, you, know,, that What, does, that, mean?

Well,, okay,, but, whatever,, dude., You, know what? You know what I'm talking about. He

doesn't, like, to, be, pinned, down. He's, Russ, Cole, when, we, were, shooting that. He was Russ Cole. Yeah

dude., There's, so, many, times, I, want, to punch this in the face. I'm so pissed at him

because, he's, he's, in, his, character,, you know. He, goes,, we're, sitting, there,, we're about to go, we're about to start shooting and we were rehearsing and I'm just kind of being stoic Russell and everything. And what he goes like

hey, man,, I, need, to, talk, to, you, about something, man. He goes, the way you and I work, Connor, hey, I hit you the ball you hit it back, I hit it back to you. and volley. We get back to each other. We play by give you you give me back man. That's us. And that could it's dramatic and also some comedy. And but this thing, what you're doing now, man I'm hitting you the ball and you're just standing there at the baseline and the ball bounces back, hits the back stop and comes to a rest AND YOU'RE JUST STARING AT ME STILL and it's not funny and I hate it. And I go, I got a hunch that might end up being funny. And I think it did end up being funny.

That's, right., It, did., It, did., By, the way, I forgot about that. I'm glad to hear that story. And you're standing there like the ball goes past you, hits the back, and just comes to arrest. You just still just staring at me, dead pain. I'm like, "What the man? Hit the ball back."

And, I, remember, saying, to, you, before, we started filming, I'm like, "Dude, you know, people are going to expect to laugh with us. You know, we got to throw some jokes in here." And he's just like, "Mhm." Yeah. He went he and he and I'm like I'm waiting for him to say yeah you're totally no that he just yeah and I'm like oh this you know and and he was totally right. He did say that. You said that then. You said I think the there might be humor in just the situation, you know, and and

No,, but, we, need, some, jokes,, dude., We, got to get Nick to write us some jokes.

Marty's, frustration, and, Marty, going, you, know, what?, Why, don't, you, just, shut the up and never talk like that again, Russ? And you That's It's kind of the audience's frustration. Like, what is he talking about? And you're going you, know what?, you., Yeah., And, and it's like, "YEAH, HIM." RIGHT. WHAT'S HE TALKING ABOUT? And then I'm just over there looking out the window dead hand. It's like, "What the dude? What's the problem?" And that's what the audience I thought it was. And I laughed hard watching that.

Yeah., Yeah., The, world, is, a, circle. Whatever. Yeah., Take, your, flat, circle

Flat, circle., That's, what, Yeah., Yeah., It was fun. But now you know. So now I want you talk about the the What are you working on now? I'm working on an Apple series with you called Brothers. Um I think it's fair to call it comedy family.

Yeah. Comedy., Um, this, is, based, off, of, uh, our friendship. And you know, as you know, Ted, and anyone close to us knows, it's kind of like when Woody and I do get going, like he's talking about hitting those balls back and forth. It's like where do I start and where do I end? And where does he start? Where does he end? That's that's that's muddy waters, man. You're not sure. It's just kind of coming together and we're on a similar frequency and we're doing our thing and it can go on and on and on and on and on. Um, our kids have always thought we, were, brothers, or, at least, acted, like brothers. I call me his kids call me Uncle Matthew, my kids call him Uncle Woody. Um, you know, it's always been inest.

And about eight years ago, we're in Greece, both our families, and my mom's there with us as well. And you know, I think your kids had pulled out some sort of picture from high school that was me. And everyone looked at it and thought it was him. And my kids like, "Oh man that's that's that's Woody. I thought that.", And, then, all, of a, sudden, and, out of the, car, out, of, nowhere, my, mom, on probably her third glass Kendall Jackson goes Woody I knew your father and it was a perfect pause ellipsis as you like to put it

that, even, our, my, young, kids, got, the innuendo. Oh, that's, great., And, I, think, I, got, a what was was like five. Even he got it. Like that was a I I know what that I know what that means. That means you telling me that you and you and Woody's dad were you know doing tube snake boogies.

You, know, what, I, mean?, And, all, of, a sudden the kids go into action mode pulling out scrapbooks. We're bringing out things and mom just is hanging on that and Woody's up going way wait. What? What? What? And mom actually just like just saying. just saying. And from that night on, this mystery has started and have pulled up uh facts that could make this more po this more possible. Like

my, mom, and, dad, were, divorced, twice, and married each other three times. During the second one of the second divorce of my mom and dad, there was a time when it would have been possible for them to physically meet and

and, physically, procreate with, Texas., So, all, of, a, sudden, people are on it and families on it and um you know it hit me a year ago cuz Woody's been so excited about this being true. Love you for that. And he was like, "Why aren't you more excited, Matthew?" And I was like "Well, dude, it's easy for you, man. You gain a brother. You're asking me to like

lose, a, phone. That's, why.", So,, we, said,, "Let's, let's build a series off of that." And uh that's what we're shooting now.

Yeah., That's, great. Yeah. Yeah., But, there, was, definitely, some, good hard going on. Anyway, let me go back to mom. Uh, mom and your father got divorced twice. Three times.

Divorced, twice., Married, three, times. Yeah., Married, three, times., And, And, he said he predicted he says, "I will die making love to

I've, read, that.", Yeah. And, which, he, did, die, having, sex., And, so I just want to know what kind of crazy was, Mom, getting, up, to, in, the, uh

That's, a, great, question. Maybe, not, for, you, to, ask., Well,, Mac,, let us know because we always said we thought nothing could nothing could kill dad. Me, Rooster, and Pat, we said nothing could kill dad. And we found out one thing could. You

know what she was up to, man. He woke up frisky. He would tell us, he would say "Boys, when I go, I'm going to be making love to your mother."

He, said, they, call, that, shot, for, decades. Wow. And, this, Monday, morning, after, he, had played golf that weekend, he woke up 6:00 a.m. before work. A little frisky.

Heart, fibrillation. How, old, were, you? I, was, 21., Check, this, out., I, that, film Days Confused, which I've always seen some some beautiful. There's some grace in this to me. I was 5 days into shooting that

my, first acting, job,, my, first, film., Why, do, I, say there's grace in that? Because everything in my life prior, I remember this vividly talking my dad into getting me the skateboard knee pads and the skateboard elbow pads and him going "Man, yeah, I ain't going to want to pay for some hobby. You're not going to follow through with that." And I was like "Yes, I will." Like, you know, he only wanted to buy some things for me. We didn't have a whole lot of money. He only to get something for me if I was going to follow through on it. And I talked him into it. Like, I'm going to all summer, every day, I'm going to train to be a great skateboarder. Blah blah. I didn't.

So everything I had sold to him that I wanted to do, I never finished or followed through or made a life out of it. He's alive 5 days into me shooting days confused, which I don't know if that's going to be a hobby. That's going to be one, like I said, one week of my life that I'm like, "Oh, that was fun." But he was alive for me to start something that became a career.

That's, great., He, saw, that. How, what, did, he, think, about?, Did, he, make any comment on that?

Nothing. But, did, he, make, any, comment, on, you, doing this part? No,, it, wasn't, a, part., I, mean,, he, made Look, the year prior when I called him and didn't want to go to law, told him I didn't want to go to law school and I wanted to go to film school., That, was, one, of the, more nerve-wracking things I've ever had to do in my life because I really thought he was going to go, "You want to do what? You can do that on a weekend. That's too avant guard. That sounds like a European hobby, boy. You got to get a real, job, 9, to5., You, know what, I, mean?

And when I told him, I said, I don't want to go to law school. I want to go to film school. I remember this long pause on the phone and that same beat of sweat I've told you about went down the back of my neck waiting for him to go cuz he was paying for my school.

Yeah. As, well., And, a, long, pause, and, he, goes, "Is that what you want to do?" I said "Yes, sir." And he goes, "Well, don't halfass it." And he just gave me rocket fuel by saying that. And I did not expect that to be what he was going to say, you know. So it was a year before that he gave me the more than permission to go do that with the privilege and the responsibility and the hoodball to go do it. And then a year later, I'm actually have a real I'm actually working doing it. People are inviting me back. I'm getting $320 a day for it. I think he knew that happening going okay. So it's connected to him saying don't have asset.

If, he, if, he, didn't, support, you, to, go, to UT you never would have ended up being at that bar. You never would end up meeting the guy. I mean

let, me, tell, you, how, I, ended, up, going, to UT cuz again at life right mystery going forward science looking back you know we can always connect all the dots to how we got here right and then that time it didn't make sense. I'm in Australia as an exchange student. I call him my I got into SMU. I got into SMU. Was it Grambling and uh um Texas? Didn't get into Duke. Didn't get into Vanderbilt. So, I'm going to go to SMU because I'm going to go to law school. Dallas is a big metropolitan city. In the summers, I'll get an internship at a at a at a law firm. So, right when I get out of school, I can already have be hired. I'm already thinking ahead about that. Right.

um Dallas, the metropolitan city in in Texas. That's what I'll do. I called him and, said,, "I, want to, go, to, SMU.", And, my dad always talked in like sports terms. He'd be like "Well, you what about them Longhorns?" Texas Longhorns. I was like "No, I want to be a Mustang, Dad. SMU Mustangs." He's like, "Ah, dog. You sure, bud?" Like,, "Yes,, sir., That's, what, I, want to do." He's like, "All right, okay. Well that's what you do." Five minutes later, phone rings. My brother Pat, the hero and smoker said call me. He goes, "Hey, bud.

Dad just told me you want to go to SMU. I said, "Yeah." He goes, "All right." He ain't got to tell you this, but the oil business is tough right now, man. I mean, people, he's trying to keep from going bankrupt. SMU is going to cost him 18,000 cuz it's a private school and Texas cost him five. You'd be doing that a real solid if you went to Austin. I'm like, "Man, I don't know." He goes "Have you ever been to Austin?" Said "No." He goes, "Man, it's your kind of town." He goes, "You can walk in there in your flip flops, no shirt and a pair of shorts. You can walk in a damn bar sit down, order a drink. You're going to have a sheriff to the left of you Native American Indian to the right, a blue-headed lesbian on the other side of the sheriff, and a dwarf on the other side of that Native American." He goes "Everyone's getting you're going to love it." And I was like, "You think?" He goes, "Yes, dude. I promise you, Pat's

always been my good luck charm." And, so, then, I, called, Dad, back., I, said, "Dad,, I, decided, I, want to, be, a, long one." Oh, God bless you, son. Hey, how pretty cool of your brother to see your father get it and be able to pass it on to you. That's a

Yeah, that's, a, good, man. He's, a, cool, guy., What, happened, when, we saw him last? He had just been he just did a little car wreck with Levi in the car. Something funny, man. I forget.

Levi, is He's, got, a, little, bit, of, that, I'll, hit that rock in the middle of that twoacre parking lot right now. It's something that was a streak of bad luck. Pat Pat Pat's had some funny funny bad luck of of the ball bouncing in odd ways that you go, "Huh?" Oh gosh. Oh, this time he gets on the uh it's he works for he's working for my older brother in the pipe business and he's, got, a, this, is, I, don't know, 20, years ago. So it was it was a sale call service. You had you had a you had a um what do you call it? secretary who's mobile like in probably in Utah or India somewhere. You call in, hey, this is 816

and, they, check, your, account, for, all, the calls that come in. Yeah. Right., Business, calls., Right., Well, we're leaving our ranch right after New Year's and uh we're driving back and uh Pat decides he's going to call in because here comes early January, time to get back to work. Going to call in to his his his service to get all his calls, business calls that coming. He calls in goes, "It's 816." She goes "8816." She goes, "Yeah, I'm checking but I'm not seeing." He goes, "It's 816." And she goes, "Lady on the other end phone goes," Oh, yeah. Okay. I just I just found that, sir, that that that account's been down for two years. And Pat pulls over in the side of the road screeches to all, gets out on the phone.

I mean, starts eating it. Just you. You're telling me I'm going to sue you. You know how much money you've lost me? The millions of dollars of business you lost me because you hadn't been taking my calls. I can't. What kind of is I'm taking this to, the, Supreme, Court., You, guys, owe me, AT LEAST, $10, MILLION., I, got, chunks, of P., I, can't, think., He's sweating his ass off. Gets back in the truck. Can you believe that MAN? TWO YEARS BEEN DOWN. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN BUSINESS ALL He's, hot., And, then, my brother Rooster, the king of common sense, sitting in the front seat listening, all, this, stuff., And, all, of a sudden, he goes, "You going to take it to court, HUH? PACKAGE." YES, I AM. AND HE GOES, "What do you think the judge is going to say when he finds out you hadn't called to check your hiking messages in two years?"

God damn it. I didn't think of that. I, never, imagined, Rooster, being, called the king of common sense.

Rooster's, got, good, common, sense. He's, got, common, sense,, but, he, is, one wild dude. Oh, he is great. He is. He's good. Good quality. Good value as you like to say.

Yes,, he, is., Yes,, he, is. Uh, but uh No, but then he he had a little wreck while I was over at your place. I think Thanksgiving or something last year and he had a little wreck on the way back to the house. I shouldn't talk about it. Is that the luck you gave?

No,, no,, no., Go, ahead., Go, ahead., I, don't remember. I'm trying to remember. Just remember that Levi, you know, everybody had their the real version and Pat had his version of course

of, the, story, of, course,, you, know. Anyway, he's, he's, he's, cool. You, know,, one, movie,, and, I'm, blanking, on the name, The Something State of Jones the

Free, State, of, Jones. Free, State, of, Jones., It's, one, of, those movies. You you've made amazing films but, every, once, in a, while, there's, a movie that you will watch just over and over again. I've watched that movie.

You, have? Yeah., Over, and, over, again., And, it's, just one of those great films and you're really really good in it.

Thank, you,, man., Not, many, people, saw that. That came out. We were proud of that film. Um, and it came out though at odd time. You know, you get release times and do you get

and, there, was, uh, things, I, won't, I, won't talk about on air cuz it'll it'll be the wrong headline. But there it came out at at an odd time and for the marketing team and everyone, they get a little bit on their

he um and not but it was really really wonderful. The, production, design, everything, about it just so

nittygritty, real,, you, know,, and, it's it's so easy to mess up a a period piece by bad production design. It was great. Everything about it was cool.

Yeah,, I, enjoyed, that. Yeah. I, was, going, to, also, mention, Mud,, which, I loved that movie. My favorite film.

Love, that, movie. Probably, my, favorite., Yeah, it's, the, one, my, dad movie

I've, dreamed, of, my, dad, I've, had, dreams of my dad coming to me at 12 years old putting his arm around me and going hey buddy you seen this movie Mud yet knows her and he goes oh we got to watch it it's a good one

and, when, my, dad, my, dad, said, it's, a, good one that's as high as a compliment to something get somebody oh he's a good one oh she's a good one that meant they were like a mench and I always think I've had dreams of my dad coming to me at 12 going

we, got, to, see, this, movie, together., It's a good one with his arm around me.

And, wait,, sorry., You, have, a, dream, that your dad would say that about I, had, a, dream, that, my, dad, would, have said that about Bud. And mind you, I was much older, but I have a dream that when I was 12

dad, would, have, come, to, me, and, said, "Let's go. You got to see this movie Bud."

Yeah,, it's, great. Do, you, direct?, I, can't, remember., Forgive me. Have you directed?

I, have,, but, I, don't., It's, It's, uh, not something I do. Yeah., Yeah. I'm, looking, to, do, on, any, kind, of consistent bas

rather, not. Yeah. Producing, now,, dude. Yeah., But, yes,, so I whether I listen to my own advice or not, I I believe I'm a better performer and have a better experience.

Yeah., Me, too. When, I, am, an, actor, for, hire. Me, too., I, I, think, I'm, a, contract, player at heart

right? You, know,, here,, put, this, cowboy, hat, on and go to the next sound stage over. you're going to be doing this

right? Okay. No,, there's, a, singular, focus, that's freedom to doing that. Yeah.

That, way. And when I've uh uh been a producer or something, I take that responsibility seriously, but it's a different hat. It's an objective hat. You have to look at the entire thing. How is, you know are we creating the situation? Are we getting You're looking at everyone's story. Look at all when you're an actor it's a subjective experience, you know where, I, got, to, be, I I, have, to, own, my, man and I I if I own my man, that's plenty. And it is. And and I'd rather just I prefer to just have the one hat of acting, subjective hat.

How, about, watching, your, work?, And, you good with that? I, don't, love, it., I, always, say, this., I love the sound of my voice when it's coming out of my mouth.

Yes. But not after I'm, I'm, Brando, or, Olivier, when I'm working. When I watch it, oh jeez, I become this judgmental dick.

I'm, almost, in, tears., I, want, to, quit. Almost, every, time., It, bores, the, hell, out of my wife. I I have to watch it four times. First time I go, "Oh, I guess my nose isn't that bad." You know, "Oh look, there are other actors in this scene." And finally, by the fourth time I can watch

I'm, a, four-time, guy,, too., me, watching, my own work. The fourth time I watch it, if I make it that far, is when I actually can watch the whole the movie.

It's, also,, you, know,, four, times, I'm, a four-time guy. All Cohen brothers films.

It's, the, fourth, watch, of, Cohen, Brothers films. I'm like, "Oh I, got, the, whole, thing."

Oh,, that's, great., That's, great. You, guys, are, kind, of, different, from, me in that regard. I'm kind of like I watch it one time, I'm like, "Witty, good job buddy. Way to go."

Did, you, hear, people, in, the, other, room laughing? They laugh because they know that was a joke. But why did you laugh? Hold on. Anyway, Matt O'Hare is over there.

That's, much, healthier., That, That's, much healthy. Mary works from a place of joy you know, and she watch she's okay if people come to the set and she loves having people around and watching it with people. I kind of work from shame basically is where I work from. So, it's like I'd rather you not come to the set.

The, degree, of, truth. I, just, don't, enjoy cuz, I, will, dissect, the, hell, out, of myself, and, I, I, I'll I'll, be, judgmental and I'm not wrong. But maybe I shouldn't be that hard, but I don't, like I said I like doing it. And I could I've done it long enough. We've all done it long. You know when you hit it

you, got, to, look, the other, direction, and go, "Yep." and they go, "Yeah, I mean when you first start off, you're doing it and you think you hit it. You look up and you go look at the you go look at what you did and you're like, "Oh, geez that's not what I was intended to do. But after a while, you start closing that gap between what you want to do what you actually do, and what's getting recorded." And you can feel it when it when it's true for you. And and if the you're agreeing with the director, I don't I don't really want to go back and and watch it over. I I I'll get I don't want to be susceptible to being vain in a place that maybe I I wouldn't be if I didn't see it. I don't want to know.

Oh,, the, lighting's, better, up., Don't Don't tell. Let, me, make, a, you, turn, here, cuz, I, want to hear you talk about Camila, right?

Yeah. I'd, love, to, know, when, you, met, and, how. And I love what you wrote. I love what you wrote about. You'll be sitting there across the room from your wife and she'll be in mid-con conversation with somebody else, but she'll turn around and catch your eye

and, give, you, just, the, slightest, smile and a wink. Yeah, that, must, feel, great.

It, feels, great., I, got, I, got, one, today. She was in there with the kiddos. Um and they were all they were all watching something after all the sports we've been at and all the UT game and all that stuff. And they were just in a quiet little shady room watching a series together. Uh High Potential is what they were watching. Um and as I was leaving you know, she's kind of was just a little lean back and I went kiss her on the forehead. She stayed there on the after I kissed her on the forehead. But by staying there, that meant like move your head about four more inches towards my chin and give me one on the lips. You know what, I, mean?, As, it, did,, I, got, an upside down wink on the way out. And I was like, there we go.

Um,, how'd, you, meet? She's, quite, a, lady., You, You, met, in Malibu? No,, sir., We, met, on, Sunset, Boulevard, at, a club.

Up, in, the, club. Which, which, place? In, the, club., I'm, forgetting, the, name, and I've told it.

Like, Roxy, at, one, of, those, places in, No., up, in, the, club., It, was, in, the

Oh,, really?, It, was, in, the, club,, dude. Okay., I, didn't, I'm, not, even, the, club, guy

because, I, thought, you, were, at, like, a restaurant. Whatever, that, was. Was, there, a, restaurant, in, there?

No., No, food, club. You're, over, there, with, the champagne and I'm, living, at, the, chateau., No,, I'm, No, no, no, no. I'm living up in Hollywood Hills. I'm out of the chatau by this point. And I'm over at the table making margaritas. I've got my I've got the ball of tequila. I've got a knife. I got my limes. I got my syrup. I got my contro. I'm making homemade mar. I can make a good margarita. It takes about 12 days.

He, does, make, a, good, margarita. And, I'm, making, margaritas., And, I'm sitting there thumping. I've had a couple of margaritas just enough to see straight., You, know what, I, mean?, Where you see a little straight her sometimes after a couple. And, uh, about, 15, ft, in, front of, me, at, the end of the table crossing the room maybe 20 feet. this figure with caramel skin with a little bit of there's enough it was hot enough in the club where there's a little dew on the shoulders and this turquoise dress with a strap going on the top moved right to left in my ey line and telling me it didn't her head wasn't even bobbing.

It's like that Spike Lee had with Malcolm X, Denzel Washington on that on that. And remember in Malcolm X where he's walking, he's got him on that pulley. He's not even stepping. He's on exactly just like a Land Cruiser floating across the top of the top of the floor.

So, she, looked, almost, as, good, as, Denzel Washington. She looked better than Denzel. So I follow her, go over, she goes and sits down next to these two girls on this red couch. And I'm I got her on mine and I'm now when she moved across I remember standing up and saying to myself, "What is that?" I didn't say "Who is that?" I said, "What is that?" And she sat down and I try to catch her eye and I'm kind of waving

really, you're, making, a, move. I'm, making, direct, move., And, as, I'm waving and not catching her eye, and now I know her well enough to know she probably saw me but wasn't going to give me the I ain't catching your eye, waving me across the room. Cuz what I heard in my ear was my mom, who wasn't there physically, but my mom saying to me "This is not the kind of girl you wave across the room, dumbass. Get your ass up and go introduce yourself." To which I did. I introduced myself. And as I was introducing myself and inviting her to come to the table, I thought, "Oh invite her two friends as well." Good move. Good move, right? Of which I did.

So therefore, she came over solo. Said "Now y'all can say she came over, sat down right next to me. I made her a margarita. Music's pumping. It's now close to 2:00 in the morning. I'm speaking fluent Spanish. Better Spanish than I've ever spoken." But she speak Portuguese, so she speaks understand. Huh?

All, right., She's, speaking, Portuguese. Wait,, wait., I, laughed, too., Is, that correct?

That's, correct. Oh,, that's, fantastic. But, it's, in, the, same, music, meter, much more than English is. It's definitely different. I've learned that.

Yeah., Yeah. Spanish, and, Portuguese., Very, different, but much more closer to the music meter of love speaking English and Portuguese. I'm understanding her Portuguese better than I ever have since

in, 19, years., Okay., I, We're, sipping margaritas. When she talks, I'm leaning my air here. When I'm talking, she's leaning in over here. the language it's working. Um, I remember my buddy comes up and goes, "Hey, we got to go." And he said, "I didn't even look at him." He just said, he said, I put my right hand up in his face and I go, "Five minutes. Give me five minutes." And uh we talked five more minutes. I invite her to come over to my house with me and my two friends to have one more drink. She says, "No." It's all right. I'll walk you to your car. Walk her to her car. She gets to the spot. She's like "I I parked it right here. Where is it?

It's towed." Oh,, yes. All, right. But, you, had, look, like,, "Oh,, that's terrible. I'm so sorry." Well, you know we could give you a lift.

We'll, give, you, a, lift, but, come, on, my, house, for, a, drink, and then I'll have my driver take you home.

My, driver?, That, doesn't, hurt. Doesn't, hurt. No,, that, that's, pretty, cool.

Doesn't, hurt., Right., So,, come, back, over. She has another drink. Me and my two buddies, we're all laughing. our music on, having a good time. We're all laughing at know that she's really cool really fun. She says, "All right, I'm ready to go." So, I'll walk her out to the driveway. My driver had left a little message. Get out of here now.

Yeah., See,, that's, what, I'm, wondering. What? Are, you, telling, the, truth, that, he, left or did you give him a

Did, you, tell, him, get, out, of, here ASAP?, He, wasn't, in, the, driveway, where, he was supposed to be.

Wow., He, he, avoided, that, question., This probably been a question lingering all these years.

So,, come, on, back, inside., We'll, call, a cab. Well, up in the mountains, up in the Malibu Canyon, sometimes Laurel Springs. It's tough to get reception for a cab.

You, take, take, the, guest, bedroom. Takes the guest bedroom. Yeah., Cut, two., I, get, kicked, out, of, that bedroom twice that night and finally go to sleep. And the next morning, I'm the last one up. 10:45 a.m. And as I'm coming down out of my bedroom, I got a spiral staircase that comes down to the ground floor. Then you walk down this foyer past a big uh fish tank. And then there's in the middle of the next room is a big kitchen island. And as I'm coming down the stairs, I hear this laughter and this conversation going on between these two guys and this woman my two friends. and Camila that it's they're they're covering each other's sentences. They're like saying one word that's calling back a joke like that happened either last night or the night before. It's like friends that have known each other a while. They're a hooting and going on like old buddies.

And I'm coming down and as I walk holding, court,, I, see, that, same turquoise, those same turquoise dress those same caramel shoulders, same dress from last night. I went, "Oh, that's another plus. This is not a little girl who thinks wearing the dress from last night is a walk of shame. No, this is a woman. That's what I wore here. That's what I was wearing and it's what I'm wearing out of here the next day. Yes I'm here owning that. She's holding court. My two buddies are got the shirts off, drinking orange juice, eating pancakes and stuff. And I hear this conversation going on like old buddies.

And I walk in and she just, "Oh, hey." And continues the conversation. I'm like "Wow, that's got some woman's got presents. Okay, I'll give you a ride to the to the pound to go pick up your your your car. On the way to the car, it was an hour drive. I had this album of this artist, a reggae artist I produced named Mishka, and I put it in. And the album's 55 minutes long. It was an hour drive. We listened to the entire album and didn't say a word to each other the entire time. Nor did either one of us feel like we needed to say something in between songs.

That's, very, cool., We've, all, been, there. We like, "Here's the science. I got to fill the space." Didn't feel like we needed to fill the space.

We, get, there., We, get, her, car., Drop, her off. She's there about to get in her car.

I, get, I, get, her, number, and, she, comes down for a kiss. She turns her cheek. Right at the last second. I come over. I catch a quarter bit of lip.

Oh,, quarter, lip., Quarter, lip. Quarter, lip. Quarter, lip. You, come, on., I, ask, her, out, that, night.

Yeah. She says, "Can't." I said "Come on. Why?" She goes, "It's my father's birthday." I'm like, "Oh, it's because I got history, family." Yeah. Yeah.

These, things,, you, know,, got, all, this stuff going on for her that she cares about. I got nothing to do with me. I'm becoming more and more attracted to her for these reasons. I keep asking her out. About a week later, she says "Yeah." She comes over. I cook her a dinner. We make more of those margaritas. We have a great night. Dance all night. and and uh oh that's been uh that was our first date and that's the only woman I've dated since or

how, long, ago, was, it? 19, years. Well, done,, bud. Thank, you. So, hold, it., Next, year, is, 20, years.

Yeah. 2026., Cuz, that, was, 2016. That'll, be, 20, years., We, didn't, get married. We've only been married 13.

Hold, it., I, thought, you, got, married. Remember, we, No,, no,, no., We'd, known, each other 19. We had

We, had, Levi, and, Vita, before, we, were married. Mafia. Uh, what? We, had, Levi, Vita, before, we, married.

You, You, had, children, in, in, S, out, of, red out of Red Lake. Speaking, of,, according, to, Mack,, your best friend. Yes. You love this story. I get home. We're staying. We've moved into a double white out in Paradise Cove. And I get home one night and we've been trying we've been we've been trying to have kids and and I get home and all of a sudden I smell walking through I smell cheeseburgers. And she walks up and hands me a double margarita. And I'm like, whoa, what's going on, man? My favorite meal and everything. What's going on? And she gives me this gift and I open it up in this treasure. And it was a picture of the is it the sonogram?

Yeah., Wonderful. Oh, my, god., We, cried,, laughing,, got, to call my mom. Got to call my mom. Get out the phone. Put it on the speaker phone. Mom, my mom. Mom, you there? She's Yeah I'm, here., I, said,, all right,, Camila's here., She's, hi,, Miss, McConn., All right. Can you hear? You can hear us all good. We got some great news to share with you. Oh, I can't. I love good news. Tell me what it is. I said, "Okay, Mom. Guess what? Camila's pregnant."

Crickets. Crickets,, bro., All, of a, sudden., Oh,, no. Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. Matthew this is so out of order. This is not how I taught you. Oh, no. Oh, Matthew. Oh, this just breaks my And I'm going, whoa. And I'm and I'm about to go down and take her off speaker phone, but I'm like in deep enough with with Camila. I'm like, uhuh. This is my mother. Let's let's let it ride. And mom just goes on and on and on and on and on about how this is the worst thing. I'm so sorry. I can't believe Jes got to go. And hangs up the phone.

Whoa., I, look, at, each, other, and, we're like, whoa. Better, get, that, bottle., Let's, pour another pour another straight one here. Good gosh. That did not go how I thought it was going to go.

It, was, very, clear, that, you, were, on, her side. There was that you hadn't been impacted by your mother. Like, okay.

No,, no,, no,, no,, no,, no., Very, good., Camil and I were locked. We're good.

Yeah,, that's, great. Five, minutes, later,, phone, rings. My mom. Yeah, mom. Hey, put me on speaker phone Matthew., All right,, you're, on, speaker phone. Camila, are you there? Yeah. Camila, come here. Yes, Mr. Connie, I'm here., All right., Can, y'all, both, hear? Yeah, Mom. We hear you just fine. Okay listen up. I would like to put some white out over that last conversation. Past five minutes, I started thinking how selfish that was of me to not be happy for y'all. But if y'all are happy I should be happy for y'all. Now, that is not my place to come in here and say that shouldn't be done and that's not how you should have done it. So, I would like to put some white out over that and we forget that was ever said. I'm very happy for That's mom.

That's, fantastic., White, out. Incredible., White, out. Incredible., Was, she, just, worried, about being a grandmother? Probably.

No,, no,, no., It, was, a, direct, reaction, of But, was, it, because, you, weren't, married or?

Yeah,, cuz, we, weren't, married. Oh., Oh. Out, of, order. That's, a, little, old-fashioned, to, her.

I, don't, think, her, old, Yeah., I, mean, she's extremely progressive, but I mean at the same time

you, know,, I, mean,, that's, how, we, were raised. That's that's that's no question about it.

Yeah. You, know., Oh,, okay., Um,, I, think,, by, the way, we're going to have to wrap this up because we're just uh

You, got, to, go, bang, a, drum. I, got, to, go, bang, a, drum, and, we're, going to the thing. We're going to bang drums.

One, one, I'm, a, drum, banger., Um, are, you, a, drum, banger? Well,, not, not, real, drum, drums,, but, man, you know, manly man groups.

Oh., Oh, that, kind, of, drumming., Uh,, okay., Years ago. One last question. One last question.

I, really, want, to, get, into, this. I, I, love, your, I, love, your, book., I, love your poetry.

Did, you, rub, meat?, Did, you, have, the, meat rub? No, I'm, just, Oh,, you, mean, like, a

Oh,, you, think, Why, do, you, think, that, way, dude? Come on. I, almost, went, to, a, really, bad, place,, but we do edit this So, you know. Anyway,

um, I, love, you., I, love, your, prayer., I love your poetry. And you tell stories beautifully.

He's, one, of, the, great, stories. You, are, a, great, story., So,, forgive, me, if you already have. Do you write film scripts?

No. Well,, well,, may, I, suggest, why, not? Because you're an amazing storyteller. You really are.

You're, fun. By, the, way,, the, greatest, story, ever, told is a story he tells which is in Greenlights, another one of his number one New York Times bestseller books. Uh and it's uh it is when he was in Australia. If you haven't I'm not going to make presumptions and I don't want you to answer, but if you haven't read or listened to him doing green lights, you've got to listen to this story of him in Australia. It I call it the greatest story ever.

I, will., I, get, it., I'll It's, a, masterpiece, of, storytelling. Anyway, go ahead. So, you should write something for us.

I, mean,, I'm, I'm, writing, it, in, like there's stories in in green lights that I'm like the I just don't really I'm not enjoying putting them in script form

but, that, could, be, a, that, could, be, a script. Well,, we, I've, worked, on, scripts, about that year.

Oh, and, they, were, good., They, weren't, as, good as that 43minute story I tell.

Right., Right., Right., Right. They, weren't, as, good, as, what, really happened. But it's a it's a it's a massive black comedy. Oh my god, it's great. It's great.

That, goes, really, really, sideways, in wonderful ways. Matthew words for the duration of your stay here in Australia.

You, learn, to, appreciate, fine, wines,, fine cheeses, and not to voice your opinion for the masses. Don't voice my opinion for the masses. What the is that? Okay, that sounds important. Who was speaking? Who years old?

The, father, that, I, was, staying, with. Oh,, that's, correct. No,, you're, seven., How, old, were, you?

I'm, 18. 18. Two, weeks, out, of, high, school. Don't, voice, your, what?, Opinion, for

You, learn, not, to, voice, your, opinion, for the masses. So,, I, take, it, he, didn't, have, a, podcast.

That, guy., No. What's, he, thinking, now?, He, has, to, have heard all this now. He has to have heard the story and all of that. has got to have gotten back to him. And I wonder what he's thinking now.

Can't, wait, to, meet, you., Well,, I've, I've I've seen him since he usually comes on some when I do some Australian press.

Really? We'll, show, up. So,, he, don't, mind., He, likes, it. I, don't, I, don't, I, don't, know.

I, I, I, was, reasonable, and, I, changed, some names. I think he's going to figure out that was him, dude.

Hey,, really, fun., See,, what, Woody, does, is he lives his life and he meets everybody and hangs out. For some weird reason, I don't. So, I really love that I got to hang out with you for an hour and I really appreciate it.

I'm, enjoy, hanging, out, with, you., I, don't know you well, but I I like you more every time we hang out.

So,, we'll, have, more. Okay. Yeah., Next, time, we're, all, in, LA,, we, go over to his place, Rustic Canyon. One of the nicest. You can sit around over there, have a fire. It's great. It's great.

You'd, love, my, wife,, too. Well,, obviously, way, more, than, you. Talking about better half. It's better three quarters. You know what I mean?

Easily., Hands, down., You'll, take, a, second look at me once you meet her. You'll go "Oh, all right."

Yeah., How, did, this, guy, hit? Maybe, he's, all, right. This, is, really, Yeah., bought, a, heavy ticket. Anyway, love you, brother. Love you too man.

Yeah., No,, I, was, talking. I, understand., I, shouldn't, have, put, the He, tapped, me., I, don't, know, why, you tapped me. I'm talking to him.

Well,, yeah., I'm, sorry. Love, you,, man., Thanks, for, coming. Thanks for asking me. I know you're busy.

Honor, us, by, coming., Seriously, thank, you'all, for, hanging,, man. I, hope, you, enjoyed, this, episode, of, Where Everybody Knows Your Name, sponsored by Nature's Bounty.

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In this discussion, the group shares their experiences from a recent dinner outing featuring Jesse Eisenberg, highlighting the rarity of Teddy's participation and the enjoyable atmosphere that included camaraderie and tequila. The conversation touches on Teddy's usual social habits and the group's camaraderie, showcasing their lively interactions and shared memories.

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