Rep. Chris Deluzio & Rep. Pat Ryan on Stronger Dem Leadership & Supporting Veterans | The Daily Show

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Arizona, Senate, Amy Schumer, Armed Services Committee
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Senate, Donald Trump, Executive, Healthcare
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Healthcare, left, right, progressive, centrist, moderate, PACE Act, Senate
4. 9:00 – 12:00: Pennsylvania, chicken hawks, defense department, draft dodgers
5. 12:00 – 15:00: Armed Services Committee, Citizens United, F-35 jet program, Supreme Court
6. 15:00 – 18:00: Chris Delusio, intellectual property, Pittsburgh, Tom Ryan

Notable quotes from "Rep. Chris Deluzio & Rep. Pat Ryan on Stronger Dem Leadership & Supporting Veterans | The Daily Show"

• I did also I'd be remiss by asking you guys the Senate caved. The House Democrats did not.

  about Senate · at 0:04

• Have, you, Have, you, guys, spent, your, time in Washington or just back in your districts?

  about Washington · at 0:49

• You, guys, are, like some, sort, of, weird, oldtimey, Greek chorus.

  about Greek chorus · at 1:42

• Weak deal for something we were fighting for our constituents and their healthcare. And I think we both learned me and the superior service of the army the Navy guy, him and the Navy.

  about Healthcare · at 3:49

• Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, New York but, both, swing, state., You, you, guys, are not in deep blue areas.

  about Pennsylvania · at 5:29

• And, I, think, there's, this, old, theory of left, right, progressive, centrist moderate. It's Yeah.

  about left, right, progressive, centrist, moderate · at 6:32

• Yeah., I, just, want, to, personally your fight for the PACE act. You came down and destroyed Ted Cruz just shamed those Republicans.

  about PACE Act · at 7:17

• Washington, right, are people who wrap themselves in the flag and they're, the chicken hawks and the draft dodgers vote for a war and then won't vote to fund the healthcare for the guys they sent to fight. That's who we're up against.

  about chicken hawks · at 8:59

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Mike Johnson — Person · 2 mentions · first at 1:01
  And, you, know,, the, big, obviously, the conspiracy theory is, oh, Mike Johnson doesn't want to swear in the representative who was from Arizona because that's the vote that makes it so that they have to then vote on.
• Amy Schumer — Person · 1 mention · first at 0:30
  Representatives gym or that kind of thing like When you walk by Schumer, is there ever any, You know there, may, be, a, little, more, this, week.
• Donald Trump — Person · 1 mention · first at 4:50
  The what astonishes me I think the space was created for Donald Trump because of the disconnect between the sort of insulated world of Washington. The disconnect between the lawmakers and the needs of the people.
• Ted Cruz — Person · 1 mention · first at 7:22
  Yeah., I, just, want, to, personally your fight for the PACE act. You came down and destroyed Ted Cruz just shamed those Republicans.
• Scott Perry — Person · 1 mention · first at 10:09
  That scheme, voted against certifying the results in Pennsylvania, a congressman named Scott Perry who went on some radio interview and said that Democrats hate the military.…
• Tom Ryan — Person · 1 mention · first at 17:53
  Representative Tom Ryan, Representative Chris Delusio.
• Chris Delusio — Person · 1 mention · first at 17:56
  Representative Tom Ryan, Representative Chris Delusio.

Books & papers

• PACE Act — Book · 1 mention · first at 7:20
• The Case Against Socialism — Book · 1 mention · first at 10:01
  And, we, serve, with, people, who, I, think, are oath breakers who were part of trying to overthrow the Constitution.

Companies & orgs

• Senate — Company · 6 mentions · first at 0:10
• Armed Services Committee — Company · 2 mentions · first at 0:53
  Back, and, forth., And, we're, on, the, Armed Services Committee, so we've had some work to do down there, but we haven't had vote since the middle of September.
• VA — Company · 2 mentions
• House Democrats — Company · 1 mention · first at 0:10
  I did also I'd be remiss by asking you guys the Senate caved. The House Democrats did not.
• House Judiciary — Company · 1 mention · first at 3:18
  Table. 74 75 million Americans voted for the Democrats. They have zero representation in Senate, House Judiciary, and Executive. You guys in the House, it's the closest that I…
• Executive — Company · 1 mention · first at 3:21
  Voted for the Democrats. They have zero representation in Senate, House Judiciary, and Executive. You guys in the House, it's the closest that I can remember it being. And yet…
• defense department — Company · 1 mention · first at 11:56
  And this is what we have to stop. Yet they hand a trillion dollars to a defense department that's never passed an audit and the rank and file that you guys know this suffer…
• Supreme Court — Company · 1 mention · first at 12:26
  America. Number one. Number two, as we speak, the president of the United States is actively suing in the Supreme Court to block food going to those veterans and 42 million Americans, one in eight people.
• Army — Company · 1 mention
• Lockheed Martin — Company · 1 mention
• Navy — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

• Peanuts — Product · 1 mention · first at 1:49
  They're like It's like in a Peanuts cartoon where every now and then you cut to the audience and they're Yay!
• SNAP program — Product · 1 mention · first at 11:15
  I'm fascinated now that, so much of the talk about these programs whether it be SNAP program or these things that for the most part are people that work jobs or are elderly or are disabled or are children and, veterans.
• USO tour — Product · 1 mention · first at 13:42
  Plane and you fly in it and there's no like they didn't put up paneling like sound. Like we went on a USO tour in a C7 and they were bring a winter coat and shorts. Like they…
• F-35 jet program — Product · 1 mention · first at 14:43
  Mean, I actually remember in the Armed Services Committee two years ago, the F-35 jet program is probably the biggest boondoggle of my life.7, trillion.
• C17 — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

• Veterans Day — Concept · 3 mentions · first at 0:01
  Thank you for coming. We want to have you guys on. It's Veterans Day is tomorrow and we wanted to see you guys.
• Healthcare — Concept · 3 mentions · first at 3:51
• Epstein file — Concept · 1 mention · first at 1:13
  Because that's the vote that makes it so that they have to then vote on releasing the Epstein files. Is that I mean that's or is that pl you don't have to answer this 100%.
• Greek chorus — Concept · 1 mention · first at 1:45
• tax credits — Concept · 1 mention · first at 3:45
  Somehow passed. There is nothing making Mike Johnson give us a vote on that to extend the tax credits. To me, I mean that on its own tells you this is a weak deal for something…
• Senate leadership — Concept · 1 mention · first at 5:09
  To see these folks in Senate leadership not understand that honestly, I think might be the most shocking part of this equation and does the leadership in the House.
• left, right, progressive, centrist, moderate — Concept · 1 mention · first at 6:35
• chicken hawks — Concept · 1 mention · first at 9:03
• draft dodgers — Concept · 1 mention · first at 9:03
  Washington, right, are people who wrap themselves in the flag and they're, the chicken hawks and the draft dodgers vote for a war and then won't vote to fund the healthcare for the guys they sent to fight. That's who we're up against.
• Citizens United — Concept · 1 mention · first at 14:13
  It, there, are, these, five, companies, have tremendous power of their purse after Citizens United in particular.
• intellectual property — Concept · 1 mention · first at 15:28
  This is the crazy part, we pay them trillions of dollars and Loheed Martin keeps the intellectual property for the stuff that our tax dollars pay for. So all the amendment did was say, we're paying you an ungodly amount of money.
• corporate PAC money — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

• Washington — Place · 3 mentions · first at 0:51
• Pennsylvania — Place · 3 mentions · first at 5:29
• Arizona — Place · 2 mentions · first at 1:06
  Conspiracy theory is, oh, Mike Johnson doesn't want to swear in the representative who was from Arizona because that's the vote that makes it so that they have to then vote on releasing the Epstein files. Is that I mean that's.
• Tennessee — Place · 1 mention · first at 1:30
  More, than, plausible., They're, waiting, to run out the clock. There's another special election happening in Tennessee.
• New York, New York — Place · 1 mention · first at 5:29
  Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, New York but, both, swing, state., You, you, guys, are not in deep blue areas.
• Pittsburgh — Place · 1 mention · first at 17:25
  Closed that we've been fighting for to get reopened. And that, and that happened, I know in Pittsburgh, it happened around the country. And then I think the most serious thing…
• DC — Place · 1 mention

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Thank you for coming. We want to have you guys on. It's Veterans Day is tomorrow and we wanted to see you guys. Uh uh I did also I'd be remiss by asking you guys uh the Senate caved. The House Democrats did not.

0:13 No. Is, there, any, kind, of, I, don't, know, where you guys connect in the whatever representatives gym or that kind of thing like When you walk by Schumer, is there ever any, you know, You know

0:38 there, may, be, a, little, more, this, week. All, right. Yeah. How, now, h, the, House, has, not, been, in session at all since the shutdown?

0:46 It's, been, like, seven, seven, weeks. Pathetic. Have, you, Have, you, guys, spent, your, time in Washington or just back in your districts?

0:53 Back, and, forth., And, we're, on, the, Armed Services Committee, so we've had some work to do down there, but we haven't had vote since the middle of September. No votes.

0:59 No, votes. And, you, know,, the, big, obviously, the conspiracy theory is, oh, Mike Johnson doesn't want to swear in uh the representative who uh was from Arizona because that's the vote that uh makes it so that they have to then vote on releasing the the Epstein files. Is that I mean that's or or is that is that pl you don't have to answer this

1:24 100%. It's, plausible. More, than, plausible., They're, waiting, to run out the clock. There's another special election happening in Tennessee. And if that guy gets sworn in with Adalita Ghava from Arizona, then it neutralizes the numbers. So, they are running. Yes. Agree. Agree to that.

1:42 You, guys, are, like some, sort, of, weird, oldtimey, Greek chorus. They're like It's like in a a Peanuts cartoon where every now and then you cut to the audience and they're like, "Yay!" Blue. Yeah. I want Let me ask you this. How surprised were you? How taken off guard were were you by the developments of this weekend uh from the Senate? Did Did it take you off guard?

2:17 I, wish, I, could, say, it, did., And, yet,, I think this is what we've come to expect from this leadership and from what the Senate's been doing. They did not stand their ground and it's a deal that I think it's a bad deal. I think it's weak.

2:31 It, doesn't, even, seem, like, a, deal., It seems like a nothing. It's, pathetic., I, mean,, I, literally, have folks in my district getting uh letters in the mail. Their premiums are doubling, tripling, and and they are like folks understand actually what's happening. I've had many folks just last weekend home say thank like hold your ground,

2:53 right? Hold, your, ground., We, know, this, is, hard. We know it's complicated, but we we literally cannot afford to pay triple. I mean, it's already way too high as it is. So

3:01 and, what, gives, them, any, confidence, that the Republicans will all of the sudden go like, "Oh, okay. You reopen it. So now we're going to reach across the aisle in bipartisan agreement. They haven't done it once. Uh they've run the table. You know, 74 75 million Americans voted for the Democrats. They have zero representation in Senate, House Judiciary, and Executive. You guys in the House, it's the closest that I can remember it being. And yet, you're not allowed to bring up any votes, don't have any committee chairmanships. It's unconscionable. And there's not even an agreement to have a vote in the House.

3:37 Even if they had this agreement, there's going to, be, a, vote, in, the, Senate., It's somehow passed. There is nothing making Mike Johnson give us a vote on that to extend the tax credits. To me, I mean that that on its own tells you this is a weak deal for something we were fighting for our constituents and their healthcare. And I think we both learned me and the superior service of the army uh, the Navy guy, him and the Navy.

3:59 You, have, no, idea, what, was, going, on backstage between these two. We, got, We, got, Army, giving, me, swag, on Army. We got Navy giving me swag on Army. I turn around, noogies, headlocks. It was terrible.

4:11 We, both, learned, when, in, charge,, take charge, right?, And, I, strongly, disagree, with everything that the Republicans are doing. But at least they understand when you have power, use it.

4:21 Right now,, they're, using, it, for, evil., They're using it truly for evil right?

4:26 But, we, have, to, understand,, I, think, we get this. A lot of our younger colleagues, frankly, get this.

4:30 When, in, charge,, take, charge., Like,, let's be clear what we're against, but also make clear what we're going to fight for when we're back. And when it's going to be when when we're going to be back in charge. I don't doubt that for a second. The the what astonishes me I think the space was created for Donald Trump because of the disconnect between the sort of insulated world of Washington. The disconnect between the lawmakers and the needs of the people they purport to represent. I think that gap is what allowed his rise, that dissatisfaction.

5:09 To see these uh folks in Senate leadership not understand that honestly, I think might be the most shocking part of of this equation and and does the leadership in the House understand that? Are do you deal with the Senate at all?

5:26 Look,, our, states, are, both, different, right? And so there's some of it. Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, New York

5:31 but, both, swing, state., You, you, guys, are not in deep blue areas. Our, districts, now, we're, in, some, of, our most competitive. Yeah.

5:37 Right. The, majority, in, the, House, runs, through whether we can hold and win in these districts. And we do. And by the way, we know how to win in tough districts.

5:44 Yeah. But they're, the, the theory, of, their, case,, as far as I can tell, is people like you will lose if you stand your ground on principle. that you have to be the so-called moderate centrist that is going to reach across the aisle, not realizing they didn't reach across the aisle. They surrendered across the aisle.

6:05 I, don't, know, any, constituents, of, ours that want us to just wilt. They want us to stand our ground for something that matters and our health care of our of our region and yours. Like people's healthcare is a real thing that is bankrupting families. They're going to roll the dice on buying a paying for a policy they may not be able to afford

6:22 right?, or, maybe, shown, up, in, the emergency room because they skipped out on healthcare, right? That is something they want us to fight for and we have been. And to see what happened on the other the other side in the Senate is just it's it's weak.

6:32 And, I, think, like, there's, this, old, theory of left, right, progressive, centrist moderate. It's

6:41 Yeah. People, want, to, know,, are, you, going, to actually fight for me when it matters or are you going to cave? And that that is the thing that matters, especially in this moment. But the folks that have been in the bubble of DC for longer than some of us have been around, uh, they don't

6:58 longer, than, even, I've, been, around. I, I'll, be, honest, with, you,, I, could, go down there and kick their asses physically.

7:05 Well,, and many, of, them, are, hollow, like, birds. If, if, you'll, allow, me,, I, think,

7:12 please. And, and, you, have, and, I, actually, like coming into Veterans Day tomorrow.

7:17 Yeah., I, just, want, to, like, personally your fight for the PACE act. You came down and destroyed Ted Cruz just shamed shamed those Republicans. And I'm telling you, I I had not both of us had toxic exposures in our service.

7:36 Oh,, really? And, I, had, not, gone, to, the, VA, for, over, a decade. And when the Pacted Act finally passed

7:42 Oh,, wow. it, it, it, really, meant, a, lot, to, me., It meant a lot to you know a million veterans signed up after that bill and I'm telling you it would not have happened. It's a fantastic program and and are they and thank you both for for signing up for that good because that's the thing and veterans I think understand this in a way that maybe some of the legislators don't because when you guys came home the idea that you had to fight for benefits that you had earned a lot of Americans are all of the sudden realizing oh the government is antagonistic not just agnostic to my needs antagonistic.

8:23 And that's something that I think I I found with the veteran communities, it was really dispiriting for them. And I don't, know if, you, guys, felt, that, way, but that the government's antagonistic.

8:32 Well,, and, look,, it's, not, just, it's, tough to get into the VA and the PAC Act made that better. And I echo what Pat said. Thank you for your work to help make it happen. You know, a lot of politicians who voted to send guys like us to places like Iraq spending trillions all of a sudden want to count pennies when it's time to care for the veterans they sent to fight.

8:50 Man, and, you, know, and, it's, look,, it's, a, lot, of, the politicians we are battling with now in Washington, right, are people who wrap themselves in the flag and they're, you know, the chicken hawks and the draft dodgers vote for a war and then won't vote to fund the healthcare for the guys they sent to fight. That's who we're up against.

9:10 It's, It's, wild., It, must, be, frustrating. So, and this is interesting for you guys because you are in those swing districts. You guys serve the idea that somehow uh Democrats have to prove their love of country versus this sort of paper patriotism that I see on the right. It's performative oftent times and and the idea that the onus is on you guys. Do you feel that as well? I mean, I I think people on the right who we run against and who fund elections against us would have that. I I know both of us, we take no lecture anyone who number one tried to overthrow the government in January 6th. Right.

9:51 Okay. Sure. I, mean,, and a, little, blip., A, little, blip. Which, the, vast, majority, of, them, did.

9:58 Right., Right. And, we, serve, with, people, who, I, think, are are oath breakers who were part of trying to overthrow the Constitution.

10:03 Right., There's, a, guy, in, Pennsylvania,, a member of Congress who was central to that scheme, voted against certifying the results in Pennsylvania, a congressman named Scott Perry who went on some radio interview and said that Democrats hate the military. Said the guys and gals who served who then go into elected office did it for just a credential is an oath breaker. So we don't take a lecture from patriotism on guys like that. No way.

10:23 Let, me, ask, you, a, question. when when you're on the retreat uh for Pennsylvania House of Representative lawmakers and you guys are in the tents at night does that h how personal does this get? Is it hard when you have somebody that that's saying something like that along you and and your feelings about that are clear? How personal have these divisions gotten? I think probably in olden days you'd you know, have a scotch and work it out. Well, I decided I'm going to the guys district holding a press conference and I'm coming for a seat.

11:04 So,, that's, that's that's, the, way, to, run. Now, let's get to some of the priorities. I'm fascinated now that, you know, so much of the talk about these programs whether it be SNAP program or these things that for the most part are people that work jobs or are elderly or are disabled or are children

11:25 and, veterans and, veterans., The, vast, majority, are, that there's a very small percentage, some say 5%, 6% of able-bodied Americans who are getting these things, but we don't know what their situation is. It could be felons who have trouble getting work. Whatever it is that seems to be for them the core of their this is the tragedy of this country is these moochers and this is the waste, fraud, and abuse in America and this is what we have to stop. Yet they hand a trillion dollars to a defense department that's never passed an audit and the rank and file that you guys know this suffer from oftentimes food insecurity themselves that are serving in the military. How the does that compute?

12:07 It, doesn't for, veterans., We, have, tens, of, thousands of active duty service members and millions of veterans on SNAP food stamps right now in the United States of America. Number one. Number two, as we speak, the president of the United States is actively suing in the Supreme Court to block food going to those veterans and 42 million Americans, one in eight people.

12:37 And, they're, the, patriots. They're, the, ones, that, stand, up, for liberty and justice for all. It is

12:44 Complete The, whole, thing, is, so, mindboggling. How what is the pressure, you know, in terms of that military budget? Like what is the where's the pressure come? Is it defense contractors? Who is it that lays the hammer on everybody to get these things through?

13:01 Well,, look,, there's, very, little competition. There used to be 51 prime defense contractors, but back in the 90s, there are five now.

13:08 Five. Five., Okay., And, I, could, cite,, we, could spend the whole night talking about different ways we get gouged. Let's take the C17. Okay. Transport aircraft.

13:15 Sure. Soap, dispensers., The, report, that, we, saw 7,900% markup on soap dispensers. Okay. So imagine what happened with everything else.

13:25 I, have, flown, on, a, C17., My, hands, were never cleaner. But, you, multiply., Think, about, the, cost that we are all paying for that.

13:33 Here's, the, crazy, thing, about, a, C7, and you guys know like it's this giant cargo plane and you fly in it and there's no like they didn't put up paneling like sound. Like we went on a USO tour in a C7 and they were like, you know, bring a a winter coat and shorts. Like they said the weather changes in a C7 depending on the altitude you're at.

13:54 I, never, even, know, you, knew, you, could actually use the bathroom in a like I never had. What were you doing? I held it. I mean, but you you you hit on something else though, John, which is that it is a corrupt system.

14:06 Yes. It, there, are, these, five, companies, have tremendous power of of their purse uh after Citizens United in particular. They pour money in and both of us have refused to take corporate pack money for this exact reason

14:22 and, and, it, puts, you, in, a, disappearance. Well,, it, doesn't, though., Honestly,, it doesn't because one, we can both sleep at night and know we're doing the right thing, but two, our constituents actually understand how corrupt the system is, right?

14:35 And, they, want, leaders, that, are, going, to actually stand up to that. So when I mean, I actually remember in the Armed Services Committee uh two years ago, the F-35 jet program is probably the biggest boondoggle of my

14:47 life.7, trillion. It's, insane., And, their, operational readiness rate is like 30%. And so a bunch of us younger members and it was actually it was bipartisan uh all veterans who had served were saying this is crazy. We have to get leverage on Loheed Martin who's the company. Uh the amount of like swarm of lobbyists that descended on us as we tried to ram through this amendment and we didn't succeed in getting it through because we just got overwhelmed. Now we've continued the fight but that's just one example.

15:19 Now, what, was, the, amendment, attempting, to do? So it's specifically saying, and this is the crazy part, we pay them trillions of dollars and Loheed Martin keeps the intellectual property for the stuff that our tax dollars pay for. So all the amendment did was say, we're paying you an ungodly amount of money. We Americans should own the intellectual property that we're paying you for. And that was not able to be passed through.

15:44 This, is, it's, like, the, worst, episode, of Shark Tank ever. What What do I get for the trillion? I I'm asking for a trillion dollars for my company and you don't get anything.

15:54 Yeah., Yes. You, get, planes, that, don't, actually, work and you don't own them.

15:58 And, like, this, problem, is, a, it, plays, out on a bunch of systems and you name it where the troops can't even fix their own stuff because of these contracts where it's got to be repaired by the company or their subcontractor. It costs the public a lot of money. It hurts readiness for the troops because they again they can't fix stuff that they would know how to do because of these contracts. So this this Veterans Day coming up, instead of anything performative, what what do you want to say to the American people? What do you ask of the American people for for those that have been uh brave enough to sign up to take that oath to do that, those who are doing it actively and those who have have done it in the past? What what would you say?

16:39 Look,, stand, solid, for, a, strong, and funded VA that is there to take care of veterans for care that we have all earned, for those benefits that we've earned. Let's make sure the VA is strong and there for veterans all over the country.

16:50 Right. And, you agree with that. And I have to say Trump ran on supporting and helping veterans and on ending the forever wars. Right? He has done the 180°ree opposite. He has fired 80,000 people at the VA. in my own VA, 20 beds closed that deal with mental health crisis and addiction recovery closed that we've been fighting for to to get reopened. And that, you know, and that happened, I know in Pittsburgh, it happened around the country. And then I think the most serious thing I would say to the country is don't send our most precious resource, our young men and women,

17:36 yep, into, harm's, way, on, some, chicken, hawk, BS from a fivetime draft dodger who does not understand what selfless service means whatsoever and hold them accountable for that. Let me feel better myself. Gentlemen, thank you. Representative Tom Ryan, Representative Chris Delusio.

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What is discussed in "Rep. Chris Deluzio & Rep. Pat Ryan on Stronger Dem Leadership & Supporting Veterans | The Daily Show"?

In order: 0:00 Arizona, Senate, Amy Schumer, Armed Services Committee; 3:00 Senate, Donald Trump, Executive, Healthcare; 6:00 Healthcare, left, right, progressive, centrist, moderate, PACE Act, Senate; 9:00 Pennsylvania, chicken hawks, defense department, draft dodgers; 12:00 Armed Services Committee, Citizens United, F-35 jet program, Supreme Court; 15:00 Chris Delusio, intellectual property, Pittsburgh, Tom Ryan.

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