Talk Tracks Season 2 Episode 4: Koray and The Hill

What this episode is about

This discussion centers on Suzanne Simon's journey as the mother of non-speaker Korai, exploring her experiences with his autism diagnosis and the discovery of his telepathic abilities. The episode highlights the emotional challenges and breakthroughs in their relationship, showcasing the significance of unconditional love, belief, and the pursuit of understanding in navigating the unique dynamics of non-verbal communication and consciousness.

Key takeaways

• In embracing Karai's autism, Suzanne discovered telepathy—proof that labels can hide extraordinary gifts.
• Karai's journey from silence to spelling challenges our understanding of communication; what if we’re all just tuning in wrong?
• The 'Hill' isn't just a place; it symbolizes the heights of parental love and the valleys of societal misunderstandings.
• Acceptance may begin with fear, but it can lead to revelations; sometimes the greatest truths emerge from vulnerability.
• Sigh abilities may sound whimsical, but they remind us that reality often dances on the edges of the unknown.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Kai Dickens (Host) · 11 min speaking
• Suzanne Simon (Guest) · 22 min speaking
• Eningga Melik (Guest) · 4 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 5:00: Suzanne Simon, telepathy tapes, Karai
2. 5:00 – 10:00: Suzanne Simon, Matthew Kennedy, CC McCarten, Eden Autism Center
3. 10:00 – 15:00: Matthew Kennedy
4. 15:00 – 20:00: telepathy tapes, Matthew Kennedy
5. 20:00 – 25:00: Eningga Melik
6. 25:00 – 30:00: Flowering Futures, telepathy tapes, Eningga Melik
7. 30:00 – 35:00: Karai

Notable quotes from "Talk Tracks Season 2 Episode 4: Koray and The Hill"

• The tragic losses, the unexpected things you learn along the way, and ultimately finding one's purpose. Suzanne's story reminds us what has always been at the heart of the…

  about telepathy tapes · at 1:16

• The McCarten School for Autism is a specialized education program in New York City that provides intensive individualized instruction and therapeutic supports for children with.

  about CC McCarten · at 6:42

• We went from Turkey to New York to New Jersey where we went to a different school, the Eden Autism Center, which is another phenomenal, very old autism school and program that also has like.

  about Eden Autism Center · at 8:27

• Aren't very many of them. And so I found through like looking all over the place, I finally landed with this guy Matthew Kennedy who it was like a miracle after 20 years of…

  about Matthew Kennedy · at 9:31

• The second energy healer Suzanne met is Eningga Melik, who owns the Universal Energy Healing Center.

  about Eningga Melik · at 22:15

• Natalyia Mi who was featured in episode 6 of the second season of the telepathy tapes. Natalyia has opened a spelling center, Flowering Futures, with her sister, non-speaker Nina, who you also met in the same episode.

  about Flowering Futures · at 25:16

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Suzanne Simon — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at 0:40
  Primary interviewee sharing her family’s journey: Karai’s diagnosis, moving countries for services, discovering spelling modalities, and integrating energy healing/telepathy claims into their support system.
  The tragic losses, the unexpected things you learn along the way, and ultimately finding one's purpose. Suzanne's story reminds us what has always been at the heart of the…
• Karai — Person · Primary subject (non-speaker child discussed); direct respondent via spelling · 2 mentions · first at 0:41
  Central figure of the episode: Suzanne’s non-speaking autistic son whose spelling, telepathy claims, and 'role on the hill' anchor the narrative and the interview questions.
  Process and how she works with Karai to further his mission on the hill. And we've asked Karai himself questions about his experience with telepathy, a past life he says he…
• Matthew Kennedy — Person · Referenced practitioner (former communication partner); deceased · 4 mentions · first at 9:37
  Introduced as the RPM communication partner who helped Karai begin spelling and formed a weekly spelling group; his death is a major emotional turning point for the family and community.
• Eningga Melik — Person · Referenced expert/guest voice (energy healer working with Karai) · 3 mentions · first at 22:17
  Energy healer interviewed about her practice and her telepathic/energetic work with Karai, including the 'hill' narrative and her claim that Karai is a teacher to many souls.

Books & papers

• telepathy tapes — Book · Primary recommendation · 5 mentions · first at 0:06
  Central to the podcast's theme, laying the foundation for discussions on telepathy and non-speaker experiences.

Companies & orgs

• CC McCarten — Company · Business focus · 1 mention · first at 6:33
  Specialized education program mentioned as a pivotal resource for Karai's early development.
• Flowering Futures — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at 25:05
  A spelling center co-founded by a non-speaker, highlighting innovative communication methods for autism.
• Eden Autism Center — Company · Business focus · 1 mention · first at 8:31
  Another key institution in Karai's journey, providing support and education for individuals with autism.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Hi everyone, I'm Kai Dickens and I'm thrilled to welcome you to the talk tracks. In this series, we'll dive deeper into the revelations, challenges, and unexpected truths from the telepathy tapes. The goal is to explore all the threads that weave together our understanding of reality, science, spirituality, and yes, even unexplained things like sigh abilities. If you haven't yet listen to the telepathy tapes, I encourage you to start there. It lays the foundation for everything we'll be exploring in this journey. We'll feature conversations with groundbreaking researchers, thinkers, non-speakers, and experiencers who illuminate the extraordinary connections that may defy explanation today, but won't for long.

0:40 Today, we're joined by Suzanne Simon, the incredible mother of non-speaker Karai. Suzanne shares with us her intimate journey of discovery and acceptance of Karai's autism diagnosis, helping Karai find his voice through spelling and the ultimate realization that not only is Karai telepathic, but he says he has a very important role on the hill. We hear from Karai's energy worker who explains her energy healing process and how she works with Karai to further his mission on the hill. And we've asked Karai himself questions about his experience with telepathy, a past life he says he remembers, and his thoughts on consciousness. This episode examines the whole aspect of the life of a non-speaker support system. The wins, the tragic losses, the unexpected things you learn along the way, and ultimately finding one's purpose. Suzanne's story reminds us what has always been at the heart of the telepathy tapes. The power

1:28 of compassion, unconditional love, and the miracles that can happen with even just a little bit of belief behind them.

1:35 My name is Suzanne Simon, and I am also known as Kori's mom. I met Suzanne almost 2 years ago. She first reached out to tell me about her son Cry, a non-speaker with an incredible gift and who she has learned plays an important role on the Hill.

1:48 It's not something that I would have ever thought about. I just was actually really curious if if other families were going through this and that's why I reached out. I didn't even know you would get the original emails that I ever sent because I was I got it off of the Facebook group and I was like, "Well, I'll try." And I and I remember writing like, I'm not sure who's going to read this, but first of all, thank you as a mom. You know, you're doing such great things, blah blah blah.

2:12 Suzanne wanted to share her son's story and how she learned through energy healer Karai works with about the work he's doing telepathically with other non-speakers.

2:20 Kai Rockola is my son. He was born in Turkey. I'm an interior designer at the time. I was a fashion designer when he was born and had my own label and everything. So, I was living in Turkey and producing there. So he and his sister were both born in Turkey. And when we got his diagnosis, it was PPT nonspecific something non-specific and then classic autism. You know, I was like, "Oh boy, now what?" Cuz you know, all I knew was Rainman. And you know, we he was really really severe at that point. He was super super aggressive. And if you saw him now, you wouldn't believe it because he's he's come so far. But he had severe sensory issues and he had lost speech.

3:09 So he went from, you know, speaking Turkish and English in this very cute little British accent because that's how you heard it on television and to losing speech and like becoming super aggressive. But at at the same time, like before really I guess at the same time as that all started, he I mean we had a hunch something was was going on because he was about 13 months. I remember it really distinctly. I was giving him a bath one night and he did the alphabet from A to Z and then he did it he knocked them all down and then he did it from Z to A and then he did them upside down and then he started from the middle to the beginning from the that same spot and to the end and then he started spelling words out like IKEA and like things we had passed on the road and stuff like that. So I would come home and he had all these alphabet puzzles and he would have words written out on the the carpet and in puzzle

4:07 letters saying like Museum of Natural History and all this stuff and I was like whoa something's, you know, definitely different. This is definitely autism. That was around the time we started seeing the changes actually because he was, you know, he met his milestones and he started walking on his first birthday and then all of a sudden it was like one day I was working at the time. I had an an babysitter and she put him in water and this kid was like born on a sailboat. So he's loves the water typically and they were giving him a bath and she put him in the water and and he just screamed as if she was putting him in a pit of fire and that's when I knew, you know, like we were like, "Okay, something is seriously going on here and we need to we need to get a grip on it." My ex-husband at the time was saying like, "Don't tell anyone he's got autism." And you know there was like this element of shame in it and I

5:02 was like I was scared you know my best friend had this very up close and personal conversation with me and like said pull your big girl pants up and deal with it you know like you don't have a choice this is your son and you're going to just you're going to do this you're fine and that's what I did and from that point on I just dove right in.

5:22 Suzanne stopped everything and dedicated her life to finding support and resources for Karai. She closed down her business in Turkey and eventually moved to the US where she felt like she could truly find the help she was looking for.

5:32 I I closed down my business. I had a a fashion design label that was selling at like Barney and Burgdorfs and all this stuff. And I just told the the showroom and all of the buyers that I had to, you know, devote myself to my son now and, you know, I was going to shut down. And that's what I did. You know, we we started all of our early intervention in Turkey and he had such bad sensory issues. Like he was constantly jumping and like screaming in like vocal stems, stuff like that. And you know, it was clear that he wasn't feeling himself in, you know, like his gravity and his sense of gravity was all messed up.

6:10 Eventually, I was able to convince Corai's dad that I really needed to get to the States because there was there was just more opportunity here to learn what was really going on and to get him some help. And and that's when I was able to get him into the McCarten school. And so, I guess that was like I guess he was five when we first came. Basically came to see a different school. Went to see CC McCarten. I remember I was in tears in her office. You got to help me. I don't know what to do. It's kind of like my last resort. I don't know where else to go.

6:42 The McCarten School for Autism is a specialized education program in New York City that provides intensive individualized instruction and therapeutic supports for children with autism and other developmental or neuroatypical needs.

6:54 So, we went to the McCarten School, saw he was classically autistic. He was doing really well there. He never had any sort of like formal education or anything. you. Although in Turkey, he was in like regular preschools with the other kids and that kind of stuff. But when he got here, he he just couldn't be in a regular school. He was very self-injurous and he would like bang his head against he would run head first into double glazed glass windows and, you know, he would put himself in danger all the time and flush stuff down the toilet. And when we got to New York, we were living in a in a pre-war apartment.

7:28 He would flush everything down the toilet and like that's and then he he stopped sleeping. And I remember being up for a period of two and a half months at one point, like solid. Like I had not slept at all because all night long I had to put him in a in a hold because he was like jumping around and we were in this pre-war building and the neighbors were complaining and I was afraid we were going to be kicked out. But but we had to be there cuz he needed all the treatments and all of the different doctors that were at our disposal there.

7:56 So anyway, so then you know he did amazing and then we started him on medication was great had this magic cocktail that worked for him for about like 15 years or so and then he just recently started like it seemed like the the drugs weren't working anymore. So you know I I found this new doctor through this great group here. I feel like all these different experiences led me to where we are now. We went from Turkey to New York to New Jersey where we went to a different school, the Eden Autism Center, which is another phenomenal, very old autism school and program that also has like adult programs and everything. This is where it first started. My friend from Eden Autism, so she a friend of mine from high school also had a a child with autism. He's now like 25 or 26. And they moved out to California. And at that at age 24, Lucas, which actually he prefers to be called Luke, we learned after he

9:03 started spelling, he started spelling. And he and Kai had very similar types of autism. And she would not let up on me. She's like, "You have to try RPM or S2C. Just give it a shot. Just give it a shot." What Suzanne is referring to by saying RPM and S2C is the rapid prompting method and spelling to communicate, both viable spelling modalities for non-speakers. So I was I was like, "Okay, I'm going to try this." And I had to find the RPM, you know, communication partner, which there aren't very many of them. And so I found through like looking all over the place, I finally landed with this guy Matthew Kennedy who it was like a miracle after 20 years of silence after I think it was in his first session Corai started spelling. I was like, how does he even have knowledge of but you know then I remember well he was spelling when he was little maybe like he was just absorbing all this the whole time and I

10:00 didn't know it but then within like two weeks he was writing full very eloquent paragraphs and like having these deep conversations and letting me know how much he appreciates me and how much he appreciates the fact that I never gave up on him and like you know his father came to on session said, "I'm so happy you're able to see how smart I am." And like his biggest concern all the time is, "Mom, you have to tell people how smart I am, you know, like and how smart I feel." He said the other day, actually, because I asked him, "Is there anything you want me to say, you know, specifically?" And he said, "Just tell them how smart I feel." And then when all of this was going on, he with with Matthew's help, Matthew facilitated this like spelling group of a bunch of his different students where they would meet every Sunday and we would all go and he they would have conversations with each other and they called them this

10:58 themselves like the spelling bros and you know they they really thought of themselves as a brotherhood and they you know Cory said it every time he started off the session saying this is I have to say this is my favorite time of the week and it's all I look forward to. So, it was really sweet and they were all saying very similar things. And then they were having these like full-on very intelligent conversations facilitated by Matthew who he opened up to these guys and let us know that he also was considered to be autistic. He was very high functioning. He was his father was a professor at Harvard. He was a student of history. But, you know, he brought something out in these boys that was magical. And and to this day, we we none of us have found anyone like him. Matthew, as it turns out, shortly after, I think eight or nine months after we started working with him, there was a week where I knew we were going to

11:56 have a session coming up. And usually he would let me know by Wednesday what day or time we were going to meet and when he was going to come to the house or whatever and I'd pick him up from the train and drop him off and all that stuff. And so it I remember distinctly it was a Wednesday and he hadn't contacted me and I had a really bad feeling. So I started reaching out to the other moms and dads in the group. Has anybody talked to Matthew? And they were like, "Oh, he disappears sometimes. He'll resurface." And I just like I don't know. I had this feeling and I just kept asking daily like anybody heard and I kept calling him and I kept you know messaging him, emailing him, whatever. Finally by Friday I looked up his father's information and it just like popped up on my screen screen and I called him and I said, "Have you heard from Matthew? I'm sorry to, you know, to intrude on your privacy or anything, but

12:46 I'm worried about him. I haven't heard from him. It's not it's not like him." In a devastating turn of events for Cry, Suzanne, and the rest of Matthew's support group, Matthew passed away.

12:55 They did a wellness check and they found him. He had an accidental overdose. So, this was a big blow to all the boys. And what I found out later was that Cory knew he was dead. Somehow it was like he was almost like pushing me. I don't know what it was that was making me like feel like something was wrong and that I had to get reach out to him. But we ended up going to the funeral. Cory came open casket to the wake. Cory sat there like a champion. I spoke at the funeral and you know I think I don't think anybody knew how important he was to this community and to us and and he had been going through some difficult times and he had a back injury from a long time ago. So, he was probably self-medicating. You know, he had some issues with addiction apparently, which I didn't ever see any signs of, but you know, that was a devastating blow for for me, for my for my son, for Cory, for all that group.

14:06 And then shortly after that, I was out with Cory one night. I was like, "Let's check in on grandma." I called her and I just had a had this, it was like by luck. I called her in the middle of a stroke and three heart attacks and she answered the phone and she was like, "Oh my god." She's like, I was like, "Mom, are you okay? I'm calling 911. Keep the phone by you. Is the is the front door open?" It was like it was just like a fate thing or whatever. I don't know. This is so This is where all of that being open to your intuition and that kind of stuff plays a role in things. It is important for Suzanne to note here that her intuition and her moments of precognition come from Karai's telepathy. It's through his own knowing and his ability to tap into the universe that he is able to communicate to her in this way. She ended up moving in with me. So during that time while she moved in with me now we're working with

14:57 Michael's father Marty who is his new communication partner and he he's been helping a lot of the kids now and working with a lot of the kids. But it's, you know, anytime I get the chance, I have him spell with people and then at the end I ask questions and, you know, try to to get him to express stuff. And Cory is really funny. He like, you know, you start off with a lesson and he's learning about history or whatever and then all of a sudden he goes rogue and starts writing all these things that he wants to to tell you. So, and then we learned that, you know, after years and years and years of people telling me he had no math skills.

15:33 I went to another friend of his, Winston, and his communication partner, Alisa said, "He has no math skills." Hm. Let's see. And she said, "Give me three numbers, Suzanne." I was like, "Okay." I gave her three numbers. She said, "Give me three other numbers." And then she says to Corey, "What's, you know, whatever it was, 387 times, you know, 763." And Cory just said the answer in in a half a second. Not even half a second. He and we were like, "How did you know that?" And he said, he said, "It just the number just popped into my head."

16:06 And she's like, "Yeah, there's your no math skills." And she did it a few times. And I was like, "Okay, I guess he's got math skills." You know, I didn't know he could spell like this either, but I guess he can. It's just fascinating the stuff that that you learn. He writes beautiful poetry. I mean, he wrote a poem that they read at my mom's memorial service. It's beautiful.

16:26 We'll share Karay's poem on our backstage pass. Like Suzanne said, it's absolutely beautiful and so moving.

16:32 So through that group, we learned of this energy healer that Michael, Cory's friend, had started working with. So I was like, "Oh, let's try it." you know, there's there's, you know, I'm open to all of this and I'm sure, you know, there's something to this because Cory often talked about the hill and, you know, people he he had met on the hill, things that happened on the hill. I just knew that it was something that we were tapping into. So that led me to this other healer that we work with now, Eningga, who is amazing and works in a totally different way, but like in a similar way. And they're both like super talented and have like these superpowers, but apparently Cory does too, which, you know, I knew he would. I mean, I didn't realize I was like the mother of Superman, but we all are.

17:25 We're all like the parents of like superheroes. And I've always explained that to Izzy's my daughter's friends when she cuz she's his younger sister and they're only like 20 months apart. So all her friends were always a little bit like, "Oh, you're not sure how to, you know, react when they were little." And I was like, "Well, Cora is kind of like a superhero, you know, like he's got superpowers in his ears and he's got really great vision and he's got, you know, he's super strong and he doesn't know, you know, like he's kind of like Superman." And that made people accept him more. And little did I know he really is kind of like that. He talks about the hill often. He, you know, he even early on when I was just getting through season one of the telepathy tapes, I remember asking him about the hill and he started he said in his spelling session with Matthew, he said in speaking about this, I risk sounding

18:18 silly. And I said, "No, you'll never sound silly, Kora. you know, like I believe everything you tell me and like don't don't ever think that. And so then he started to open up about it and and you know, start talking about it and and I feel like he goes there in his sleep after Matthew passed away. He again took to his bed and he slept for I want to say it was a solid 30 hours or something. He did not wake up. And I was like, I would go and check on him just to make sure everything was okay, but he did not he did not wake up. He and he said, you know, some of the other parents had hadn't told the other kids about Matthew and he said they know, you know, mom, tell them he they know, like everybody knows. How I really knew that he was telepathic was, but there's a few a few ways. So when we were looking for a communication partner, um there was a girl named Bella who came and we worked with her for a little bit and we didn't

19:17 know much about her. She wasn't formally trained, but we knew she was spelling with some of the other kids and with her brother who is a non-verbal speller. And so she would come and work with Cai. And one day Kori said to her, and when she walked in the door, she said, he said, he wrote out, "Stop trying to telepathically communicate with me. Use your voice." And he said, "You listen to the telepathy tapes on the way here." And then he said, "You need to break up with your boyfriend, Nico. He and and he's not another guy will come along.

19:54 You need someone nice. there's, you know, you have to do this. And then the next session, she came and he said, "You didn't break up with Nico. You're not listening to me." And then another session, she came in and he said, "Tell my mom what happened at school. You have to tell my mom." And I was like, "Did something happen at school?" Cuz she had started working as an aid in a in a school in a special needs class. So she she said yes. Actually, I wasn't sure who to tell this to, but I could use some advice on this. So, she had seen a parah who was mistreating the student and she didn't she was new at the job.

20:34 She didn't want to be seen as like a narc or someone to not be trusted by the other paras or whatever, but she knew she had to tell someone. So, she told me the whole scenario and I said, "You have to say something, Bella. This is, you know, this is what you have to do." And she's like, "I know. I don't know who to tell." And Corey wrote, "Tell Miss Wilson." And and I was like, "Who's Miss Wilson?" She's like, "Oh my god, that's who I was going to tell. That's my brother's old teacher. That's the w woman I was going to go to." And you know, so it was proven at that point that he could do this. And then with his new communication partner, Marty, every time he's talking with Marty, he starts spelling about Roy. And And Marty was like, "Who's Roy?" and he's like your brother, Michael's uncle. He was writing all about that. In my case, I feel like it's more about like he leads me to these places. It's not that like I'm

21:31 necessarily hearing his voice and like I know he's doing it to me. He's hearing my thoughts. He will look me in the eye and not say a word, but I'm like, "You're telling me something, aren't you?" And with my mom, it was really interesting. He knew my mom was going to die before anybody else. I feel like he he went up to her and he gave her this really deep hug. I have it on a on video where he just put his head on her stomach and just just like hugged her and gave and like after she passed, he went up to her, was not afraid. He un took the sheet off her head and he gave her a kiss on her forehead and he basically was like, you know, that's just her spiritual I mean her spirit's still here. That's just her physical body.

22:15 The second energy healer Suzanne met is Eningga Melik, who owns the Universal Energy Healing Center.

22:21 We're all designed to be telepathic. We all have these abilities. This isn't unique just to me or anybody else.

22:29 I spoke with Eningga over the phone about her energy healing practice and her work with Karai. She explains how Suzanne calls it Karai's superpowers.

22:36 I've been working with energy and been like a spiritual healer, guider, whatever for years. And and then I opened my practice a few years ago, just kind of pushed into it, you know, divinely guided into it. I was in real estate. I feel like for many many from since I was a child, I knew that I was a healer. And we, my husband and I have we have one biological child and then we have four adopted kids. And I felt like absolutely divinely called to adopt them. Everybody comes with, you know, their own trauma and stuff like that and worked diligently to help them grow and learn and change, but they were part of my journey as well to take this healing that I felt like I was being called to do even deeper. And so, I did go get certified. I'm a Raiki master and teacher. I'm a quantum energy advanced healer. And so the work that I do is deep and profound and you know heals all kinds of things all levels of

23:40 consciousness all you know past life stuff. It works on it works on you know all kinds of ailments and removing trauma because when you remove traumas and fears and thought processes and patterns and loops the body can really clear itself. So, it's such deep and beautiful work done from such a place of love and channeling that divine love. I feel like that's the healer. It's not me, you know. And then I really I wasn't working with the autistic community at all. I I just never had been introduced. And I first started working on a little girl. Her name is May. And she came to me with her mom. And I didn't know they were all like this. I was just treating May because she's this beautiful human being sitting in front of me. Anyway, I saw her as this huge being and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, she's so big. She doesn't live inside of her body." And so, I was just amazed at her and her abilities and

24:44 her ability to speak to me telepathically. I work in different realms. This is not even This is so beyond me. and her mom said, "Oh, you should have you heard of the television." I think it was shortly after you guys started from the very beginning. So anyway, I've since jumped into it. I've been working down with Natalia with Flowering Futures and so I've been working on the kids, the parents.

25:14 Natalyia, who Inga mentioned, is Natalyia Mi who was featured in episode 6 of the second season of the telepathy tapes. Natalyia has opened a spelling center, Flowering Futures, with her sister, non-speaker Nina, who you also met in the same episode.

25:28 And what is so amazingly beautiful in this and what I've noticed is that these children have obviously come, what I've gathered from them is, you know, as souls coming into the planet, they choose their parents. We all choose our parents. And they chose their parents for whatever reason to help them on this journey of being in this kind of body as well as being out of the body, you know, and having these amazing roles for humanity. The this is so beyond us and so huge. It's for the planet. It's for humanity. I it words do not express it well enough. I just can't ever find the words.

26:20 Suzanne 2 has received much validation from the work Ingga has been doing with Karai.

26:24 Two healers now have told me he's got a very important job and that it was interesting. The first healer went to the hill with Corey and Michael and she said it was the most fascinating thing she'd ever seen because Kori was feeling alone and isolated and like really out of sorts which is when he was going through this really difficult time recently and she said it was so beautiful. She said he got to the hill everyone was letting him know that he's not alone. We're here for you. You know we're we're in this together. That kind of thing. And then Korai took off and he was leading them all like she said they sprouted wings and they all flew 31 million of them behind Kori and that Kori has a very important job and this is two healers. I never mentioned it to the second healer and she said the same thing. Ingga said his job she'd been to his school on the hill. He's got his own school on the hill and there's like a

27:20 number of of like she said his friend Michael's a preacher on the hill. He's a teacher on the hill and he's preparing all of these other nonverbal kids to for the next wave of humanity.

27:34 Eningga explains exactly what Suzanne means by karai school. So, I've been kind of being guided to do this class. And as I was driving down to Flowering Futures yesterday to spend time with my clients, Cory visited me in the car and it was a whole it was a whole thing. He telepathically came to me while I was in the car and he's like, "Okay, you're part of what I do." So, he's a teacher of like, I don't know, 31 million souls. And so, one time when I was working on him, just to back up a little bit, I asked him about that telepathically. We were connecting. I was working on their house. I I clear energy from people's homes, too. And I was I was working on their home and things around them. just it helps the children regulate a little bit better. I was working with him or just telepathically communicating with him and I never felt like I could go to the hill even though I was curious and he

28:36 said he told me he's no I'll take you. You're invited. I'll take you. So he did he took me to the hill and all of a sudden all these other children showed up and they ushered me. They invited me. They were all like waving their hands. Come along. Come along. And I'm like, there were a lot. And we went through this magical forest and then it opened up and I can't even describe the colors. This magical forest and then this beautiful like field and mountains and then it opened up to the hill and I saw all these schools. But he brought me to where he was and I asked him I said so what is like what do you teach? Because they were different schools, right? And then I asked him, "So, what is uh what is your role? Like, I know you're a teacher, but what are you teaching them?" And he just said, "Yes, I am teaching these current souls that are mostly in autistic bodies how to help humanity ascend." And I'm like, "Okay,

29:41 this is ginormous. This is a big teaching responsibility. this is a big role. So, fast forward to him sitting in my car with me yesterday telepathically and he's like, "Okay, you're supposed to be a part of this, too." And I'm like, "What do you mean?" And he said, "You have a big job, too." And I said, "Okay, so fill me in. I'm not sure how I fit in." I said, "I'm happy to help wherever I can. I know I'm supposed to be helping." and he said telepathically you're supposed to teach telepathy like help people remember this is what we're designed to do the nonverbal autistics are it's hard for them to speak the way we speak and that telepathy is so much easier and the way that humanity is supposed to be ascending and meeting like moving into enlightenment whatever you want to call it awakening at different stages. Telepathy is part of this layer. And so me helping people remember, help to teach it, having

30:50 workshops, that kind of thing was part of this. And so I'm like, okay. And I said, how am I going to do this? You know, if the obviously the kids don't need it, right? So it's the parents that need it. It's other people that may want it. I said, "How am I going to reach these people to offer this?" And I already have some ideas. I've taught like a telepathy workshop before. And he said, "We're going to teach you. We're going to send you people and the angels are going to send you people." I said, "Okay." All right. Thank you. So today in meditation I did like a telepathy meditation for myself so that I could you know get from the other realms what I'm supposed to be teaching. How do you want me to teach this? And I was being told there are blockages. People have different blockages whether it's their belief system or things from the past or past lives, you know, hindering their own healing, hindering their own

31:52 advancement, you know, energetically. And so I went into meditation and all of a sudden Cory shows up and I said, "Okay." Uh, and he with him his 31 million. And then I felt the autistic collective like all these kids around the world. It was almost like we were I was in his circle with his 31 million and the autistic collective was around us. I had to spend two hours grounding myself afterwards because I'm like my body was vibrating so high during this meditation and I'm like, "Oh my goodness, Corey, this is so huge. This is bigger. This is this is so big and it's such a beautiful thing to it's a gift. It's a gift to bring back. It's a gift for humanity because people are at all different stages, levels of awakenness understanding and it was so incredibly helpful. I ended up talking to Suzanne and I've been texting. I texted this morning and I just said, "I just want to let you know that Cora and I like basically had

32:59 a mission this morning, a field trip, and I don't know how long it was necessarily, but I will fill you in later. So, we're going to talk tonight when she gets home from work." But she text me and she said, "They think Cora is sick at school cuz he's so tired." I'm sure his body's tired and I was tired, too. It was a lot. It was a lot of information, a lot of download, a lot of light codes. And I'm sure and just holding that frequency is exhausting. It's this is it's something big. I think you know this is all new to me too. Like this level of working with these children because he just he just showed up. He brought me in and I'm like okay I'll do this. I just you know you do what you're supposed to do.

33:45 I sent some questions directly to Cry so he could respond to all of this in his own words. So the first question is when did you first know you were telepathic? And he wrote really forever. It would just come to me. The next question was how do you receive telepathy? Is it through images or through feelings or do you actually hear a voice in your head? And he wrote yes I see visions and hear many thoughts. Because Suzanne has mentioned he brought up reincarnation. I asked if he does believe in reincarnation and how it works in his experience. And he says yes. I have lived a lot of times. I can remember all the faces. Yes, everyone. I asked if there's anything he'd like to share about a past life and he said, "I was in the military during different wars and he drowned in Italy." And then I asked what he thinks about consciousness. Does he think we share a collective consciousness or is consciousness

34:30 possessed individually? And he said, "Souls stay around. The collective easily connects with friends on the hill." And I said, "What do you do on the hill?" And he answered, "I go to the hill now more than ever. Mom knows. I try to send her messages. I'm not always sure she gets them. Michael is there a lot of the time and we inspire students.

34:48 I feel like that's part of my role on this planet is to heal the healers just for the moms, you know, I feel like these moms are on the go go go.

34:57 Here's Eningga again. and for the dads too if they want, but just to give them some sort of a reprieve just to help them reboot, you know, and to be able to come back and feel more energized and feel more alive because they are supporting these amazing children on their mission without even some moms, parents without even realizing what they're doing, you know.

35:20 And here's Suzanne with her final thoughts. We're always trying to find people to let into our community to so it's like it's a it's a sacred community, you know, we don't want to exploit our kids or anything like that or or their abilities or their things and whatever. You have done it so beautifully and like has made them feel so accepted that, you know, we're very protective of all of this and and not in a bad way, just in a good way. And you know, I always ask Cory, do you want me to tell you? and he's like, "Yeah, I want you to go on there and I want you to tell them how smart we are and how how competent we are."

35:58 That's it for this episode of the Talk Tracks, but new episodes will be released every Wednesday. So stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads, even the veiled ones, that knit together our reality. And please remember to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind. Thank you to my amazing collaborators, our executive producer Jill Pachznik, our producer Katherine Ellis, and associate producer Selena Kennedy. Original music by Rachel Kantu, opening and closing music by Elizabeth PW, original logo and cover art by Ben Kendoor Design. The audio mix and finishing by Sarah Ma. And I'm Kai Dickens, your writer, creator, and host.

36:32 Thank you again for joining us.

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Who speaks in "Talk Tracks Season 2 Episode 4: Koray and The Hill"?

Kai Dickens (Host), Suzanne Simon (Guest), Eningga Melik (Guest).

What is "Talk Tracks Season 2 Episode 4: Koray and The Hill" about?

This discussion centers on Suzanne Simon's journey as the mother of non-speaker Korai, exploring her experiences with his autism diagnosis and the discovery of his telepathic abilities. The episode highlights the emotional challenges and breakthroughs in their relationship, showcasing the significance of unconditional love, belief, and the pursuit of understanding in navigating the unique…

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8 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including telepathy tapes, Suzanne Simon, Karai, Matthew Kennedy, Eningga Melik, CC McCarten. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Talk Tracks Season 2 Episode 4: Koray and The Hill"?

The episode runs 37 min; the transcript is about 6,768 words in 59 timestamped sections.

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