An Unremarkable Student: Monday, January 26th, 2026

What this episode is about

In this light-hearted conversation, the hosts share a personal anecdote about a clumsy incident at Trader Joe's, where one of them slipped on fruit while shopping for cheese. The story unfolds humorously as they discuss the mishap, the grocery shopping experience, and the potential for a lawsuit due to the fall, illustrating the everyday trials and awkward moments of life.

Key takeaways

• Trader Joe's: where a fig can take you from grocery shopping to potential litigation in seconds.
• Slipping on schmutz: the unexpected plot twist in the mundane quest for cheese. Life’s comedic timing strikes again!
• Pumping gas in open-toed shoes: the real-life hazard nobody warns you about—flaming toes are not a fashion statement.
• A fire truck honk: the modern-day equivalent of a medieval knight's 'thou art slow.' It's all about perspective.
• Life's chaos often starts with a simple grocery trip, reminding us that mundane moments can lead to epic stories.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Jackson Claude (Host) · 36 min speaking
• Claudia (Guest) · 36 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Super Bowl, Trader Joe's
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Bearbells, Caraway, Alex Honnold
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Sundance Film Festival, Travis Kelce, Alex Honnold, Taylor Swift
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Pat McGrath, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Travis Kelce
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Katy Perry
6. 1:00:00 – 1:10:00: Love Island USA

Notable quotes from "An Unremarkable Student: Monday, January 26th, 2026"

• They didn't have it. Trader Joe's like just has to be different.

  about Trader Joe's · at 1:09

• Traitors football last night. We have our Super Bowl team. Never in a million years could someone have predicted we'd have a Patriots Seahawks Super Bowl.

  about Super Bowl · at 8:21

• Should I pick one up? And then I fell and I never even thought to finish that thought. Wow. Well, they're really the best tasting protein bar out there.

  about Bearbells · at 15:54

• Yeah. That like people had big reactions to as well, but he didn't have a wife and kids at the time. So, or he might have just had a wife. No, I don't think so. And he was This guy's crazy, but he's free, so like.

  about Alex Honnold · at 19:28

• Like so chummy. I thought that was a crazy picture, especially, the rumors were spiraling that Taylor and Travis are like on the rocks.

  about Taylor Swift · at 27:47

• Pat McGrath files for bank chapter 11 bankruptcy.

  about Pat McGrath · at 34:06

• And I'm glad we're taking it to the main show because I know I said this on toast radio, everyone's giving up on Katy Perry's new music.

  about Katy Perry · at 38:37

• Very Love Island USA. Except Love Island USA was like kind of like responsible for a lot of the us. So they put out this like black and white statement just like about.

  about Love Island USA · at 1:03:03

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Taylor Swift — Person · Referenced celebrity · 3 mentions · first at 27:37
  Discussed in the context of relationship rumors with Travis Kelce and as a notable user of Pat McGrath’s red lipstick.
• Travis Kelce — Person · Referenced athlete/celebrity partner · 3 mentions · first at 27:37
  Appears in relationship coverage with Taylor Swift; their families (mothers) are discussed as signaling relationship stability.
  Like so chummy. I thought that was a crazy picture, especially, the rumors were spiraling that Taylor and Travis are like on the rocks.
• Alex Honnold — Person · Referenced athlete/adventurer · 2 mentions · first at 19:22
  Central to the ‘Skyscraper Live’ discussion: the hosts react to the ethics and danger of his (alleged) rope-free climb.
• Pat McGrath — Person · Referenced business figure / makeup artist · 4 mentions · first at 34:06
  Discussed due to news about her brand’s Chapter 11 filing; also tied to Taylor Swift’s signature red lipstick.
• Katy Perry — Person · Referenced musician · 4 mentions · first at 38:28
  Discussed as a pop artist whose newer music is being overlooked; hosts recommend/defend her song “Band-Aids” and discuss her post-divorce narrative.

Companies & orgs

• Trader Joe's — Company · Incidental mention · 3 mentions · first at 0:36
  Mentioned in a personal anecdote about a shopping experience.

Places & events

• Super Bowl — Event · Incidental mention · 4 mentions · first at 8:22
  Briefly mentioned in the context of sports discussion.
• Sundance Film Festival — Event · Incidental mention · 3 mentions · first at 27:41
  Mentioned in the context of celebrity sightings.
  Our next story, future in-laws Andrea Swift and Donna Kelsey bonded at the Sundance Film Festival.

Media & podcasts

• Love Island USA — Media · Incidental mention · 2 mentions · first at 1:03:02
  Mentioned in comparison to another show's statement.

Sponsors

• Bearbells — Product · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at 14:59
  Sponsored segment promoting Bearbells protein bars.
• Caraway — Product · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at 16:25
  Sponsored segment promoting Caraway non-toxic kitchenware.
  Universe. So that's bearbells.com. Our code is toast at checkout for 15% off your order. Today's episode is also brought to you by Carowway non-toxic kitchen wear. Perfect if…

Full transcript with timestamps

0:04 Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing.

0:25 Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody's having a dairy. That's mun

0:29 mundaries. Is your dairy mun? It's as mun as it could be for this mandaries. It's so true. Actually, I had sort of like a lifealtering moment at Trader Joe's this morning. And if you saw me

0:39 headline news, Claudia was at Trader Joe's this morning. I had to pick up Oh, yeah. Wait.

0:45 Yeah. I just needed some cheese. You know what? For grilled for a grilled cheese.

0:49 Like for grilled cheeses. Like we eat them a lot in my home and like we were out of cheese. So,

0:52 and so much so that you had to go on your way. Well, actually, I had to go to the bank. Okay.

0:59 And there was a grocery store nearby and you said we need cheese. That looks like a nice cheese.

1:03 I know. I almost didn't see like the craft singles because it's like Trader Joe's.

1:07 I'm very proud that you didn't buy craft singles. They didn't have it. You know, Trader Joe's like just has to be different.

1:12 So, I got like their organic. It's definitely made in the same factory. I digress. Okay. So, I'm walking into the Trader feeling, you know, feeling fine.

1:20 And I fell. No. So bad. Now, I want to say I'm feeling like I'm feeling like fine right now because I can sue. Like, it was so not my fault. And it wasn't this mom and pop grocery store. It was Trader Joe's. Like, where are we buying a home? You know, I am so in the right the footage will tell my story.

1:42 Can you tell us the story? I didn't see it. There was like some schmutz on the ground. It looked like somebody had stepped and smooshed on like a a raisin or a date or a fig.

1:52 Okay. And I had no idea because I was looking straight, not at the floor. And I slipped. I literally cracked my ankle.

1:58 Slipped on a fig. I slipped on a fig. Fig like structure. I don't know what it was.

2:04 And I caught myself at the very like I was on the floor, but I caught myself. Like my ass didn't hit the floor, but

2:09 it hurt so [ __ ] bad. And the only thing that was carrying me through was knowing that the law was on my side. And I can and will be like was re reaching out to an injury attorney.

2:20 You should. I don't know. And there was a man who worked there being like, "Are you okay?" And I just like wanted him to know like, "I'm fine. Your store is going down with issues."

2:31 I didn't just fall because I'm like a crazy person. I fell because there were schmutz.

2:35 Yeah. In the parking lot or in the store? No. In an aisle. Oh, why did I fall in the parking lot? Like

2:41 I don't know who. Like I just when you were telling the story, it's hard to fall. Like gravel is like sturdy.

2:45 I'm imagining a parking It was on a tile floor, so it was already not like the best most

2:50 resistant. And oh my god, you guys, my ankle hurts so bad. Like, it's throbbing.

2:55 I'm really sorry, but I hope that you get $200 million so you can finally live a life of happiness.

3:03 No, I think we decided like 500's my number. Okay, but like just be careful. That's how you get into like toxic secession vibes.

3:10 It's okay. I just feel like my roots will like keep me grounded. It's true. like she has her family, she's close with her family, she's close with her friends. Like even

3:18 the thing is I'm willing to try. Like the guinea pig, you know, it's fine. Like I'm willing to take that risk, you know.

3:26 Yeah, you're a risk taker. I've always said that. And I've always said that I'm a huge risk taker.

3:31 Looks like you'll have to learn the hard way Claude. Ah, you know, so if you see me like limping, that's what's happened. And then I realized Ben used um my car. I have no gas. I had to go pump my own gas. It was like such a crazy morning. And I pumped my own gas. And as I was like removing the nozzle from the nozzle, um like a little bit of gas like dripped on my toe. Isn't that weird? And then I felt like I had this like like

3:56 flammable foot. Flammable foot. And like I was like scared to walk near my car.

4:01 Yeah. As you should be. And so like I was being really weird. Let me see which toe. The big one.

4:07 The second one. And so I got into the car and I'm wearing sandals. So, I just like took my sandal off and like rubbed my toe on like the

4:16 on the exhaust. No, on like the floor mat. Yeah. And I'm fine. Like I just thought it was so crazy wearing open I never thought about before. I very rarely pump gas. It's like not my problem.

4:27 You need a closed toe shoe. Yeah. Like it's kind of crazy to pump gas in open toe shoes. Do they tell you that at driver's ed?

4:32 No. They should teach you how to pump gas at driver's ed. It's humiliating. Which is why I had to get an electric car.

4:37 Yeah. Oh, yeah. You don't have these problems. No, I don't. And then one more thing happened to me that like I felt really like disgusting about. I was like driving um you know as one does in a car kind of mindlessly and I was crossing a light so the light turned green. I started driving. It was a two-way street. So I guess like coming the other way. It was a fire truck.

4:56 Okay. And he was also turning. Oh. And I didn't I guess like let him in and I guess there was an emergency cuz his lights like I guess were on and he honked at me and I felt like such a low life. Like you know what I mean? Like if only you knew you're just an idiot.

5:11 Yeah. And to be clear, like he wasn't even fully at the light yet. Like he was still pulling up. Like I really didn't read.

5:19 I didn't get in his way. I If I delayed his trip, it was by a quarter of a second.

5:24 No, I understand. I think he was just like feeling self-important. I would feel awkward in that situation, too. I wouldn't know how to act. And it's like I should I stop? But what if I'm not supposed to stop and now I've just stopped? He wasn't. The lights were on but there was no whale. Obviously I like wouldn't know about a whale but the lights I was just kind of in broad daylight.

5:42 I don't know. It's giving want to make it to our brunch res. No, it's giving like we are just abusing our power

5:49 cuz we have a brunch res thousand%. Yeah. So it's just kind like an embarrassing morning like a lot of embarrassing things like me with my toe then my ankle and then the fire truck. It was just kind of crazy.

5:59 I I'm sorry. Maybe you should come straight here from now on. I never tried to do the most when we were facetiming this morning because we just can't stop talking. Um because doing an hour and a half long show is just not going to be enough for us. And she said she's like, "I got to go running errands before the toast." And I thought that was kind of crazy.

6:16 Yeah. Um I won't be doing it again. That's for sure. I think that's a good idea because we need you here in one piece,

6:24 right? Break down after. I almost like broke my ankle, went up in flames that that the fire truck would have had to put out, but they would have been late

6:34 coming to get save me because there was a girl blocking because there was a girl who didn't know how to drive.

6:38 Yeah, it's kind of a tale as old as time. Yeah, driving is so crazy. Like every day someone made me feel like such a square today cuz like he broke the law

6:47 but like I should have too cuz I was just being like a sheep following the law that when there was no one around.

6:52 What was the law? No right on red. So, it's no right on red because there's a train track before it and then another light. The the two lights are the same, but you shouldn't go to the next light because there's a train track. You could get stuck on the tracks at a red light. So, we're both sitting at the two red lights and no cars are coming the other way. And he went like around me over the tracks.

7:11 I don't think that's squareish. I think that guy's insane. Yeah, I don't mess around with the train tracks.

7:15 Mess around with the [ __ ] train tracks. Yeah, that's just what I need to get stuck on the tracks. Like, that guy's actually an insane Daredevil. You're not a square. You're so normal. It's crazy that we drive amongst the trains.

7:24 I totally agree and I realize that they run cross country so it's like borderline impossible to not like ever

7:29 engage with the train track but living in Manhattan like I don't have these problems like we obviously have other problems but like driving on the tracks my heart like I literally clench and I unc clench when we're over the tracks. It's insane.

7:41 Like part of my journey is like at some point I have to cross the tracks like finding the right most optimal way to do it.

7:46 There is none. So just like and like around the time that we record like a big train a Well, I guess trains they just come all day, but it just feels like we're like synced up with one. Yeah.

7:55 And I'm always trying to outrun it. It's kind of like your period like you and the trains are synced up.

7:59 Yeah. Cycle sisters, I guess. So we I watched a lot of TV over the weekend. We are going to recap Traers. We're going to recap. There's a big I don't even know like how everybody knew that this thing was happening on Saturday Night Skyscraper Live. Um I did watch the whole thing live because I'm a loser. Um, and I was left with so so many thoughts that I cannot wait to share. Um,

8:19 a lot of TV to discuss today. Traitors football last night. We have our Super Bowl team. Never in a million years could someone have predicted we'd have a Patriots Seahawks Super Bowl.

8:29 Actually, who predicted it? You know, every year I'm going to find this for you. Like the the NFL has the allegations that it was scripted. And if it was scripted this year, it was scripted by somebody who does not know entertainment cuz like I don't care about these teams whatsoever. Um, like there's like a little lore with like Drake May, but beyond that, like no. What's the lore that like his wife is like and she's like

8:46 and he has like a cute little wife like cute like but like most players in the NFL like

8:50 have wives have wives who make content and are part of their communities and back

8:55 at the beginning of every season like the NFL puts like a graphic up. Hold on, I have to find it. It's like a little cartoon being like race to the Super Bowl and it's you know all the the uh quarterbacks walking towards the trophy NFL. Let me see. I saw it this morning and like it kind of was giving scripted. Hold on. Okay.

9:14 What would I look for to find this? Like NFL graphic NFL cartoon race to the Super Bowl.

9:22 Graphic Super Bowl. Oh god. On Twitter. I found it. I was going to get like penis. Yeah. Oh, wait. This is not it. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

9:31 So, it's like all the quarterbacks walking. Okay. And who are the two quarterbacks at the front?

9:36 Drake and Sam Darnold. May Darnold. Look at them. Wait. Okay, that's really crazy. They're Yeah, and they're front and center because also Ward is there but he's not front and center. They couldn't have made it.

9:51 Neighbors, Mayfield, Hunter. Those are the five teams in the front. That's really crazy cuz I was going to say this proves that Super Bowl is not scripted

9:58 because it's boring as hell. Like where are the celebrities? Yeah. Where's the lore? It just is giving random.

10:05 It is giving random justice for the 49ers. Um, it was their year, but they didn't even they weren't even in the championships.

10:12 It was their year. I'll just leave it at that. It clearly wasn't their year. That's what Or that's what they want you to think. The NFL scriptor.

10:19 So, who do you think will win? We'll take it all. It's so hard to guess when you like genuinely don't care. Um, but if it's the Seahawks versus the Patriots, like I'm I'm a New England girlish. I'm from New York, so I'm going to go Patriots.

10:32 Yeah. Yeah. I know you like are probably feeling conflicted because you are like a New England girl as well, but you also love Draft Day, which takes place like with the Seattle Seahawks, right?

10:42 No, the the Bears. The Brown The Bears. The Browns. The Browns. Cleveland. Yeah. Don't

10:48 Kevin Coster isn't the coach for the Seahawks? No, not even close. Wasn't there like a Aren't the Seahawks involved in draft day?

10:54 Perhaps they're another team with a trade to trade. Oh, okay. So, never mind. So, you have no ties to

11:00 I have no ties to the Seahawks. And even when I think of draft day, like I don't think of the Browns.

11:06 Yeah. And I do love that Robert Craft, that little that little Bob. So, sure. Go Pat. Go Pats.

11:10 Yeah. Hopefully, it's a good game. We still need to finalize our plans because we don't have any. Oh, we were talking about them this morning.

11:16 We were cuz we talk so much. We're always talking. Almost like we do it for a living.

11:21 And other than that, we played a lot of Maj this weekend. We did. Lots of family time, lots of beach time, water sign things. You guys wouldn't understand. You wouldn't.

11:30 Are you having your fill of the water? Like, do you feel like your full self? Do you feel like full of water? No.

11:35 Do you feel like your full self? Like that you have like the water in your life?

11:38 Yeah, I do actually. Like, we went to the beach both days this weekend. Like, what more could a water sign ask for? Honestly, what more? Nothing, right?

11:50 No, the beach. That's like primo water. Yeah. And I get like I It's probably difficult for you to understand because you're not a water sign.

11:58 Even though I am a water sign. Because you're not a water sign. Um, and that's how I know like horoscopes, sorry to who this offends, like are fake and made up because Jackie is a water sign when I tell you like nobody hates the water more than Jacqueline.

12:10 I don't hate it. I just don't like love it. She doesn't feel connected to it like I do. She doesn't mess with it like I do.

12:15 No, I can appreciate like the majesty of the ocean. Okay. Well, when Susie Weiss was on, like she was

12:20 talking about the ocean. She talked about the ocean in a lot of different ways. And I think about what she said a lot like that the ocean is the new space and like there's going to be a lot more sea exploration, a lot like of tech money being spent down there, but also that like it freaks her out and like she thinks it's spooky whereas like I think it's the most magical. What do you make of the sea?

12:36 Oh, I think it's it's really majestic and I think it's it's very humbling to stand in front of the ocean.

12:42 Wait, that's really beautiful. Go on. Like it's just no matter what's going on, like the the tides keep tiding.

12:50 It's so true. because you're so like big and like the ocean doesn't care. It's so true.

12:54 It'll chew you up and spit you out. So, Moana. Yeah. We just read a book. I don't want you to read this book cuz I think like overall you wouldn't like it, but there are and we just recorded Redheads which is why it's top of mind, but it's very much like oceanic dystopian thriller sort of thing. And like a lot like these are big themes in the book. The ocean.

13:15 Oh, is it called the ocean? Wild dark shores. So oceanic, you know. Yeah, but but I don't know that you should read it. Anyways, Redheads is coming out first Thursday of February and it's one of my favorite So, switching up the format.

13:27 Yeah, you didn't update everyone that you like kind of were like underelling saying it was going to be the worst podcast ever. We changed everything and then I spoke to you after you said it was like

13:34 I never said it was going to be the worst podcast ever, but I was just like saying like Redheads is just it's kind of like

13:38 in a transitional phase. We were at sort of a breaking point where it's like very hard to like get it done every month. And one thing that I offloaded for myself is hosting the entire episode. Now, whoever chooses the book is going to be like hosting the discussion. So, this was our first time doing that. Rebecca hosted it. It was her book. The episode was so amazing, so fresh. We all came away just being like that. Like, there's new life breathed into the Reddit.

13:59 I love that. I love that. Necessity is the mother of invention. That's beautiful.

14:03 So, I'm really excited for the episode to come out. Plus, this book is like everywhere. Reese's book club. Everyone.

14:07 Oh, it's just good to be like in the mix with the other celebrity book clubs. Yeah, especially like if we're not all reading that much. Like, we need to read the buzzy ones. So, stay tuned for that. It's interesting that we have the same um iPad case,

14:21 but they look different. Like what happened? Yours is like such a washed up pink.

14:24 It's Yeah. And also, this is your iPad case because yours has a lipstick stain on it. Why do I have it?

14:30 I don't know. But this is my iPad. My charger is not charging on my iPad cuz I got used to your iPad instead of mine.

14:37 Like my like things are on your passcode. My pass. Yeah. Interesting. Very interesting. Spookiness is a plenty here at the toast this morning.

14:46 It is and so are pop culture TV recap are plenty. Let's dive in. Let's dive in. Okay. To the fast side stories that you do need to know.

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17:55 Thank you, coers. You're welcome. Our first story was somehow the big entertainment news of the weekend, Skyscraper Live.

18:03 Netflix live streamed a man climbing to the top of the Taipei 101 Skyscraper, which is this 1,667 foot tall skyscraper in Taipei, Taiwan.

18:15 So he free climbed it. He No, no harness, no rope, no net allegedly. Now Oh, I have a skyscraper truth. I am a skyscraper truther. I have a very hard time believing like yes this guy is the best at what he does. So like if there was anyone who was going to do it, he's done things like this before. I have a very hard time believing Netflix was going to let a man die on television. Like

18:36 so I was just reading about this. They said it was on a 10-second delay so that if he fell that they would just cut away and you wouldn't

18:42 Oh, that's interesting. Okay, so I keep learning like different things about it and also everyone on the planet was watching this in the beginning.

18:48 I didn't watch it because I had no idea it was happening because how would I know this was happening?

18:52 I How did anyone know this was happening? like Cynthia Rivio. I did not know this was happening and my chat with my high school friends was like, "Is anybody watching this thing on Netflix?" And another Marggo was like, "Yeah, I am." So, two of the girls there were like, "It's so crazy." And they were hyping it up. I was like, "Okay, well, I have to watch it." Um, and then I was, it was a long thing. Like, I think it took him like 90 minutes to watch it. And there was like a whole broadcast of like packages. So, as I was watching, I kept seeing people on Instagram, so I really felt like I was a part of something.

19:17 You were a part of it? I was so um like I was having a lot of feelings about it. Like, I hate this guy. I just want to say like he has a wife and kids and apparently he had a documentary.

19:27 Yes. Called Free Solo. Yeah. That like people had big reactions to as well, but he didn't have a wife and kids at the time. So, um or he might have just had a wife. No, I don't think so. And he was like, "This guy's crazy, but he's free, you know, so like whatever." Now he's doing it. And they kept talking about the fact that he had kids and like why would someone do this? And they had these really annoying correspondents. One of the the correspondents was um like a free climber herself who like has like holds a lot of titles in the women's free climbing and I just kept thinking like how stupid the sport was and they kept talking about the sport like it was soccer. Um and it's not. Um and there's quite literally no reason to do that. Um and I was just getting mad. Um and when he got to the top he was just so crazy, Jackie. Like he I believe this was a very easy climb for him. So he was like

20:13 doing little tricks and I wanted to kill him. Like at one point he did like had his legs wrapped around a pole and took his hands off like look mono hands. Every time he got to like it it's just it's the structure. My

20:22 arms are sweating Jackie. It was very like irritating to watch. The structure is um like tiered. So it's like bigger and then there's like a little platform and it gets smaller. So every time he got to a platform he would like look over fearlessly like cuz there was people I guess this was a huge thing in Taipei like everybody knew about it.

20:37 Yeah. People were inside the building and he's taking pictures with people. He is a lunatic. Like an absolute lunatic. And I just like did not like like I don't want to we should not be encouraging this type of behavior. It's so reckless. It's so stupid. I'm sorry. Like I think the sport is dumb. If you're a part of the free climbing like community, you're going to want to turn this off cuz I think it's incredibly stupid. It's incredibly reckless. Like for what?

20:58 One of the female correspondents was getting choked up when he made it. I'm like, "Girl, you need a life." Like I just I hated the whole thing. I hated the fact that like they might have been live streaming a man's death. Like like seriously, why? Like with all the violence and video games and TV, like now we're live streaming death. That's why I just kind of refused to believe that it was real. And there was also

21:14 So you don't think it was real? I don't know. I have no proof, but like I don't believe that. And also, you know, he only got paid $500,000. Like

21:21 that's not a lot for that. It's not 200 million. The correct. But you know, like if Netflix like Netflix was doing this like and so if he wasn't going to do it like some other crazy person would have. So he was like, "Yeah." And he's a household name. Alex Honold. I never heard of him before.

21:36 And like at least let it be someone who's experienced who like can get it done. He has he's never climbed a building before. He only has climbed like rocks, mountains, etc.

21:45 I wonder if climbing a building is like nothing compared to climbing a mountain because also like the building is built the same at every, you know, you said it was like repetitive.

21:54 Yeah, it is. And the mountain, the majesty of God is just different every turn.

22:01 Yes. They had a lot of like pre-made packages about his home life. Um his wife is like also crazy. Like I just think she's crazy. She didn't think like any of this wasid. And then we saw like their reunion like on the top of this platform when she there was an elevator. So she took the elevator and he met her like at the 101st floor or whatever and they were like taking pictures and stuff and I was just like these are two [ __ ] crazy people. I just like I didn't think it was cute. I didn't think they were a good match. Like

22:24 those are really sweaty. It was so crazy. Um and they get off of it. They did they helicopter.

22:30 So you know how like at the Empire State Building um there's a spy an antenna. Yeah. He went to the very top and it's so funny cuz you see it

22:36 the top of the antenna. You think the antenna is like a cell phone antenna? No, it's huge. Like 10 people could stand on it. So he went to the top and Jackie's at the top of the antenna like looking over like leaning over. He's being insane. It's not even flat. It's round. He's a crazy person. He then there was a harness and a rope waiting for him up there. He blayed himself unbon. He unbelled himself down to like theund 20th floor where there was cameras, one of the correspondents and his wife and they were taking pictures. They were all harnessed. He did not harness himself.

23:09 Um, and I just kept thinking about like the camera crew. There was a guy on a ble following him the whole time. So, like literally all the way up until he got to the antenna. I believe they just had like a camera at the building next door just like zoomed in on him. Um,

23:22 a fellow crazy person. Just crazy people doing crazy things. Obviously, I watched it like I got got because, you know, it was like this shock value entertainment and I was shocked and I watched it. But we need to stop. We need to not be doing stuff like that. Like it was insane.

23:37 I do fear this will encourage more because it was a great success. He did great. Everyone watched it. Everyone's talking about it.

23:43 He's a star now. So I think this will inspire like a new generation of crazy people and like a new genre of entertainment like free climbing lie.

23:51 Yeah. Remember like uh the only recent example and it's not even that recent that I can think of and I think it was Netflix or Red Bull always sponsors these like crazy that guy who like free jumps from the moon like you know what I mean? He takes something all the way up to like

24:08 not the moon but like outer spaceish. Uhhuh. Like he can see Earth. Yeah. And he just jumps. He lost consciousness, but then like when he's like a couple hundred feet above, he like

24:19 takes a parachute. Yeah. There's content like this all the time. They just put it on Netflix, but like Yeah, Red Bull does things like this all the time.

24:25 I've always thought it was crazy and strange. And I I just have to believe that there is some sort of contingency plan like and I I don't see other people theorizing. I feel like maybe if you know a lot about climbing that this was so easy and if you're not afraid of heights and you're just like climbing some metal like and you take out being so high up but if it's like a ladder almost so you know it's it like it's a random building

24:49 this building like was his dream though kind of how like Sully wanted to land on the Hudson like

24:53 he's always been eyeing Taipei 101 this is like his building like he's like in love with the building you know

24:57 that's really funny at least that's what they said also one of the commentators did say that like I kept thinking about He is such an experienced climber. Like to him, this is like akin to walking.

25:07 It's second nature. I don't care. It's still like, you're not going to convince me, you commentators who were insane, by the way. Like three of the worst people on the planet. You are not going to convince me that this is not an absolutely bonkers [ __ ] crazy thing to do. You're just not for a father of two.

25:23 I don't know. I think he knew that he could do it. Like that this was like a climbable skyscraper.

25:28 And the people in the streets like were being so like Like it was literally so dramatic and he knew he was playing. He was literally performing for people. Yes. I don't believe that this was hard. At one point

25:39 for him for him at one point, like I said, each tier had like a little platform. So we got like a break like a couple of seconds in between till I catch his breath. Um and his shoes cuz it's like a dirty building. It's you don't clean the outside of the building. His shoes were covered in grease. So he was like, I kind of got to wipe off the grease. And he used his hands. So I'm like, well, your hands are greasy now. And he didn't like wipe off his hands or anything.

26:02 But did he chalk them again? He had a big thing of chalk on his belt. So like he kept reaching behind. Um so yeah, it's just crazy.

26:10 Yeah. And everyone was watching it. I saw Kim. It makes me think she has like a Netflix deal coming up cuz she was at Netflix. Like this is crazy.

26:17 She's definitely She does her movie with Netflix, right? That was on the show like six months ago. She has like a big movie coming on the show. They like sold a big movie to Netflix. I don't know what happened with it, but it's supposed to be like the next bridesmaids. Oh, okay. That'll be fun.

26:31 Yeah, it was insane. Like I had a good time, of course. I just don't know like how anyone knew about it. The f How did the first person know about it?

26:40 Well, so when I opened Netflix, it was right on the homepage cuz it was being live streamed. Um, and I'm happy for Netflix because I think a lot of people watched it. And as far as I know, I think there were a couple of issues in the very beginning, but as far as I know, I had a seamless streaming experience.

26:52 It had to be delayed 30 minutes because it rained and the building was wet. Oh, sorry. There was also like they were on earthquake watch. They had to delay. They delayed this a couple of times

26:59 like days. Yeah. Oh wow. So maybe that's why you didn't hear about it like because it was like maybe not going to happen.

27:06 And I wound up watching Traitor Saturday night. By the time I saw everyone's stories, I was in bed.

27:10 Yeah. Yeah. So Traders, it wasn't as good as Traders. Traders is the best show ever made. I can't believe I like it's so me. Like I've been missing out on it. It's the best show ever created. And I can imagine watching a season where everyone cast isn't like stupid is probably even more fun.

27:25 Yeah. Yeah, but I'm having the best like the time of my life is over. We should go back and watch last season.

27:29 Yeah, that's like a good thing to do the next time I like give birth. Yeah. Or we could just do it sooner than that.

27:35 No, I think I'll wait till I give birth. Our next story, future in-laws Andrea Swift and Donna Kelsey bonded at the Sundance Film Festival.

27:42 It's a Spider-Man meme cuz they're the same person, right? But it was crazy that they were like so chummy. I thought that was a crazy picture,

27:49 especially, you know, the rumors were spiraling that Taylor and Travis are like on the rocks.

27:52 Oh, so like this kind of disproves that. The mother-in-laws came out to like them

27:57 because they said that they were on the rocks due to wedding planning and stuff. And the people that fight most during the wedding planning are mothers-in-laws. So, these two are looking chummy.

28:04 Yeah. Travis and Taylor's moms attended the Sundance Film Festival in Park City on Sunday during the outing. They were bundled up arm and arm.

28:13 Yeah. Like seriously, gal pals posing for pops. When Taylor and Travis were first spotted together, like one of the reasons I knew that they might be forever is because their mothers are the same person and they love their moms and their moms are like public figures. It's seriously the Spider-Man meme. I can't tell them apart except Donna has glasses and I actually know Donna like a lot better now that she's been on Traders and like debased herself. Um,

28:32 is she who you thought she was? No, not at all. She's like lowkey shy. But was she just being shy because her spoiler alert? Yeah,

28:40 you got yourself a traitor. Maybe. Maybe maybe we don't know Donna at all cuz she was like faking it the whole time.

28:48 But in her confession, actually she didn't get confessionals because we didn't know who the secret traitor was.

28:52 In hindsight, like the secret traitor bit was so obvious for Donna. Well, clearly everybody got her. I didn't even guess it.

28:59 Like they did secret traitor so that Donna could like be on the show in an interesting way but not actually be on the show. Like

29:08 correct, you know? And like I guess I don't know. Like I I seriously I I don't understand why, who, what, when, where, why, how when it come comes to the secret traitor, so

29:16 like they never had one before, but like apparently they do it on the UK spin-off.

29:21 Oh. Which I've heard is amazing. It's literally like the new Love Island. And I also feel like I we'll get to traders recup. I feel like none of the traders or the faithfuls are like not that they should because she was a secret trader putting together like who Donna was like allied with.

29:32 Yes, they were, but they don't realize that she was a secret trader. That's why they every time they keep going back to the Donna vote, right?

29:37 Got it. Okay. Which is fair. Yeah, that's what they should be doing. Um, are you ready for our next story? So, that the two of them were spotted together and like Sundance actually was like making waves. Oh, maybe it's because I'm just like um

29:50 like on Brooks Nater's close friends story and like she was there. There was a lot of like fabulous things happening at Sundance. Whenever I think of Sundance, I think of Entourage. Like everything I know about the Sundance Film Festival, I know because they go there in Entourage like two or three times. Um, and it just seems like a fabulous event. And then of course, like Lisa Barlo is probably so busy.

30:06 Yeah. I wonder what she's up to for Sundance for Vita. I'm not caught up. No, me neither.

30:11 But what were they doing at the Sundance Film Festival? Does Travis have a movie or something?

30:16 I mean, is Travis there? Is Taylor there? This picture is just like there without context.

30:21 Oh, yeah. Like, what sort of events were they attending? What's the meaning behind the trip?

30:26 Right. There's really no information. Was it just like a ski weekend that happened to

30:31 But they're like in the middle like there with the paparazzi. They're posing for a picture. They're not even like being caught together. They are turned

30:36 and it's background photo so it's paparazzi. They were like at an event puzzling

30:44 extremely but also lvis like to spend time in Utah. Yes, they do. There are a couple of key places that they like to attend.

30:52 Yeah. So maybe they're all there calling on the wedding, right? Maybe they're there on the vendors.

30:58 Maybe they're having a wedding summit. Yeah. Maybe they wanted to cancel on the vendors face to face.

31:04 Just kidding. I don't think they're on the rocks. Me neither. Are you ready? But I do think like their relationship has reached new challenges like any new relationship does.

31:14 That's okay. Mhm. Yeah. But what could their wedding issue be? Well, we know it's not financial,

31:21 right? Which means like the guest list can be infinite like the things that normal people

31:24 maybe guest list. Yeah. No, but usually the guest list issues are because of money

31:30 or venue. And if she wants to get married at build wing like they'll build, you know what I mean? Like the issues that normal people, it's not guest list related. It's not financial. Like all wedding issues, whether it's the guest list or the band are because of the money.

31:43 Yeah, they do not have that issue. But like Nick, the Pelt Beckhams had so many issues and they weren't money,

31:50 right? But I think the Pelts that's a great question. The Pelt Beckham issues were because of either like, you know, toxic mother-in-laws, which I don't believe we have here. Like these two sweet old ladies, it ain't them.

32:02 They're dispelling all toxic mother-in-laws and like really young, immature bride and groom from Brooklyn and Nicola, which I don't believe these people are in their 30s. Like when you get married later in life, like you do.

32:13 Also, Brooklyn and Nicola are spending their parents' money, so they have to get approve. It has to be what the parents want. True. Where Taylor and Travis are spending their own money.

32:21 Yeah. Yeah, I've ended up on like Brit talk. Like sometimes my algorithm thinks that I'm like I get like sometimes my algorithm thinks I'm Israeli and I get like content in Hebrew and I don't know what these people are saying. Um and then like I end up in rabbit holes and I've clearly like been on team Victoria talk so much so that they think I'm Britain, British, excuse me. And like so much of her music, her books are going viral again. She's like trending in the like they they're like we don't mess with our national treasures. They ride.

32:47 So, I don't know what the I feel like America is very like toxic mother-in-law, whereas in the UK they're like spoiled brat kids. Like the US is Harry and Megan.

32:55 Yeah. Harry and Megan. The US is very um like Brooklyn and Nicholas. Set your boundaries.

33:02 Yeah. Therapy talk. Whereas the Brits are very much like they back the the firm.

33:06 Yeah. The institution. I find myself in the same position as a lot of there are a lot of

33:13 parallels. Yeah. And I I I forgot that we reported that they had dinner. I don't know if that was like something we thought would be funny if it happened or if it actually happened, but they did.

33:21 Yeah, they had dinner. They did have dinner. Today's also the first day where we're styling our hair by ourselves. Like I had my

33:27 I washed my hair last night, right? Me too. And I started fresh with our new $100,000 blowouts. Wait, I was somewhere at this morning.

33:38 Tell us what happened. I forgot. Someone was just like, I love your hair. Period.

33:42 They didn't know about the $100,000 haircut. Like I forget or it might have been I think it was at the bank. The teller was like I love your hair and I was like oh my god.

33:51 Did you say like Chris Apple had it? I literally pointed and said 100,000 this hair 100,000.

33:57 Is that crazy? That's like everybody knows. You could see it. Yeah. Thanks. Um are you ready for our next story? Beauty number three.

34:05 Oh yeah. Pat McGrath files for bank chapter 11 bankruptcy. Auction cancelled. This is really crazy. There have been whispers. I saw it on TikTok. Like I'm also like sometimes I land on beauty talk and they think I'm like you know

34:16 a beautiful woman which they're right about. Um that she has been very close to filing for a while but how

34:23 which is shocking because she has so many viral products but I guess like there was a there was a Pat McGrath era and I feel like it's a little bit over.

34:32 I don't feel like there was like a a trend like it's been just that's a quality product and people like it not like a flash in the pan. Well, I feel like it's very opposite of the current makeup. It's very like Kylie, like it's lots of colors and it's like high-end Kylie. It's She's known for her shadows, which are like crazy colors, big sparkle, and that's like not what beauty people are buying right now. It's like very clean girl, which is why like Charlotte Tilbury is thriving. She doesn't do anything

34:56 beyond the color beige. Like, it's very clean girl. Um, so maybe that's why or I don't know if the brand was like run poorly. Um, but it's shocking because this is such a high-end quality celebrity loved makeup brand. I mean, Taylor Swift's like iconic red that she wears everywhere is Pat McGrath.

35:13 Yeah. So, Pat, I hope she buys some stock. Well, yeah. I mean, just because someone's filing for Chapter 11, like doesn't mean it's over. Um, but they put out a statement saying during this process, the company will continue operations in the ordinary course of business while working to restructure its balance sheet and to forge a path to thrive. Um,

35:31 you know what? I feel like the makeup industry is like so oversaturated that like I I feel like we've kind of been waiting for like the domino effect for like everybody launched a brand. Some people thrived, some people sort of like fell into oblivion like Rem Beauty, I'm waiting for them to announce like

35:43 right that wouldn't be a surprise to me and I agree like not everyone's going to make it and the cream rises and to me like Pat McGrath this cream

35:51 I don't know I I don't know anybody I know you use one lipstick it's in my purse. I don't know anyone who I don't use any Pat McGrath and I really don't know anyone who has in a while besides when and the eye it's a really expensive brand too. So like makeup these days like if you're going to be that pricey I'm trying to think of like what a like Hourglass really pricey. Um but they have like key products that keep people coming back. The

36:15 concealer being one of them like I don't know what sort of like cornerstone product everybody uses. the things that were popular were like more makeup trends at the time, not like a foundation that you can't live without.

36:26 Yes, I understand. Well, I feel like first of all, chapter 11 like doesn't mean it's over. Someone could buy it. Someone could restructure it and like make it valuable once again. Like Victoria Beckham,

36:37 she's crushing it by the way. I've been getting maybe because I saw you liked a video that then was sent to me like by the algorithm.

36:45 What was the video? Uh she was talking about her eyeliners, how she sold every 30 seconds.

36:48 One every 30 seconds. And then when you see that, it's such good marketing cuz when you see that, I'm like, well, then I need one even though I don't even wear eyeliner.

36:55 So, I have never used a Victoria Beckham makeup product and I feel like her whole brand, and I I thought this after the documentary, too, is moving from clothes to beauty. Um, she must be at least in the UK at least, like really successful in beauty. I've kind of felt influence a couple of times to buy something. I might Where do they sell it?

37:10 I bought two things, not from that video. I online. I got a Is that Sephora? I don't think so. I got a like a cream white eyeliner, you know, like cream colored eyeliner and the their lip balm. Everyone has a lip balm these days. I think the beauty is paying for the clothes.

37:24 Yeah, because I don't know if the clothes are like flying off the shelves and it's that's expensive to run that that keeps everything in the green. I don't think she's interested in running strictly a beauty brand. That was like not the dream. But like this allows her and her partner

37:36 for him to make money and for her to live her dream and and put out parchy clothes, which the world does need.

37:41 Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I have felt compelled like if I if I'm in a store and they sell Victoria Beckham, like like I might get some beauty. I've heard the contour stick is like it's like tiny.

37:50 Oh, so it's like people love it. I I have a contour stick that I love, but it's becoming increasingly harder to find.

37:56 So, it might be like I just bought two cuz I'm scared of the day where they take

37:59 Well, that's what Taylor Swift's going to have to do with her red lipstick if Peppy like truly goes out of business.

38:03 Yeah. So, let's see what happens. I wanted to tell you one thing. Um, so on Friday after Friday's episode, Jackie and I recorded a Patreon episode, um, kind of like a quarterly, no, no, like an annual installment we do called Toast Radio and the whole theme was like commuter edition. It's a radio show that we record on Patreon. So if you ever want to like listen to music but also listen to the Toast, you can listen to Toast Radio. We talk about our favorite songs. We do like celebrity like chitchat, haha. Um, and one of the songs Jackie selected that she's like been listening to during her commute is Band-Aids by Katy Perry. She's giving Katy Perry a second chance. So I listened to it on my commute this morning and it's actually very good.

38:34 I'm so glad that you agree. you influenced me and I'm glad we're taking it to the main show because I know I said this on toast radio, everyone's giving up on Katy Perry's new music.

38:43 Um, but it's a shame because Band-Aids is a wonderful song and it's like about her divorce from Orlando Bloom, so it's like topical and it's beatsy and I just feel like it's like no one's paying attention.

38:53 And then as I was listening to it, I had like kind of a radical thought about Katy Perry. I'm going to make an analogy if that's okay. I feel like

38:59 Sure. I feel like Katy Perry, no. Zo, Justin Trudeau is Katy Perry's Travis Kelce, like after this big long relationship, this like celebrity couple that you might think is like a rebound. I actually think her and Justin Trudeau, if they haven't broken up already, like are endgame and like you don't think it's ever going to happen after this like long breakup, it's giving rebound. But Travis was technically a rebound. Now they're getting married.

39:26 Oh, but I don't see Katie in Orlando as I saw like Joe. They have a kid together. They were together for

39:30 you know I I don't like I don't consider Joe and Taylor that much. Like Oh, I feel like they're less than

39:37 Oh, they were basically married. Like Yeah. Like I feel like Katie was like happy with Orlando. They had a kid. They had a beautiful family. Like daisies everything. And

39:45 I think Taylor was happy with Joe and like until she wasn't. No, but the what was being put forth was like not happiness.

39:51 Well, yeah. They were always like hiding and like like living in sin almost, right? Yeah. But um I do believe that they were happy. Even though like you listen to her music now it's like girl are you okay?

40:00 Like if anything I feel like Travis's Taylor's Orlando. So you think Katie and Orlando are OTP? Like do you think they'll ever find their way back to one another?

40:10 I don't know. The song like it didn't sound like it was that like Yeah. Like the worst thing he did was not ask her how her Jay was like girl. Okay. There there are women out here accepting less so like go back.

40:19 Like it didn't feel irreparable or but actually him being with that girl who dressed up as her for Halloween. Oh, that is like never speak to me again.

40:28 Unfort Yeah, I forgot about I forgot about that unfortunate situation. But yeah, I um I'll hand you back your analogy. I don't feel like it's a little half.

40:38 She's rebutting my analogy. All right. Well, you'll be you'll be eating your words when Katy Perry's walking down that Canadian aisle.

40:47 Okay. Sure. Yeah. I I I would like to see that. Yeah. I'm not rooting against your analogy, by the way. Really? It feels like you really are.

40:56 No, I just like the work is incomplete so far. You're such a teacher sometimes. Like I I actually Jackie always does say that like if she weren't doing what she was doing like she might have become a teacher.

41:07 Um and you would be an amazing one cuz you're a [ __ ] Okay. Like I think I would be an amazing teacher.

41:10 She's always like telling me my ideas are halfbaked and that I didn't do my homework and that like she's sending me to the principal's office

41:16 which is just my office. I think I'd be a good principal too. There are two different types of teachers. I think we all agree. Like teachers everyone has a teacher

41:22 like Miss Honey. Yes. Everybody has a Miss Honey and a Miss Tunchable. Like Yeah.

41:26 You are such a trenchable. Like I think I'm a perfect blend of both. No. No. Like I know. Who's your Miss Honey? I have I think I have two.

41:35 Miss Shine Mine was my Miss Honey and Miss Braho. Like she was such a real one.

41:39 That's really sweet. I'm obviously not going to say my Miss Trenchible because everybody listens to this podcast.

41:44 Every all of our former teachers. Every time I talk about a teacher like it ends up in my DMs like please don't.

41:49 So you cannot say you're Miss Trenchunchable. Yeah. Even though I'm really trying to think like a teacher who like scarred you like said something so mean or like was so Oh, I know. Sorry. I I literally was talking about her the other day.

42:01 Oh, itch. Yeah. Who was your Miss Honey? No one comes to mind. Oh, maybe that's why you are a Tunchable.

42:09 But I don't have a Tunchable either. Maybe every Trunchable never had a honey and that's how they ended up a honey.

42:14 But I Matilda is like an eternal I don't have like I like imprinted teachers on me. Good or bad?

42:21 Good or bad. Well, I guess that's good. Yeah. Like they were just like you were just like doing they were you were doing their they were doing

42:27 there wasn't like a student that like was stood out for better or for worse. Oh, I definitely was for both like for better and for worse.

42:35 I'm trying to think. Yeah. No. Okay. Mr. Lavine was your was your Miss Honey. Yeah. I'm very unremarkable.

42:42 Jackie the tone. Do not don't say that. That's so much. I've never seen you make that face before. I can't breathe. I've never seen that face before. I'm serious. She's unremarkable. Yeah. Okay, then. Sorry I asked. So sorry I asked.

43:18 Hope you feel good. I do actually never felt better. Really funny stuff. You're not unremarkable. I mean, you couldn't be unremarkable if you tried. Like when you were like the only redhead in your grade, like please.

43:32 A part of this like all-star family. Please. It's true. It's true. You couldn't have been unremarkable.

43:37 Wow, that was really really funny. Like thank you for that. Are you ready for our next story?

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46:50 Thank you so much, the turt. It's a pleasure doing business with you. Our fourth story is some new couple news that needs to be discussed. There's a new couple

47:01 brewing blossoming in the Bravo universe. Have you seen this? Carl Radkkey and Venita from Southern Charm.

47:09 Okay. Are rumored to be dating? Well, they've been talking about it. So, they went on a date a few weeks ago and I think she shared that it was like an hours long date. Very good stuff. And then she was on Watch What Happens Live saying that she's been going out on a few dates with Carl. They're getting to know each other. And then on Instagram, it seems as though they both traveled to London like together, taking a couple trips. So, they're like dating. I don't know if they're boyfriend girlfriend yet, but like they are seeing each other.

47:35 It's giving Paige and Craig. It is giving, you know. Is this the new Paige and Craig?

47:39 The new Paige and Craig. I do feel like Summerhouse like does sort of need like new something and you know with Paige leaving and it was kind of like and now Kyle and Amanda's divorce like will help ratings. So anything to help Yeah.

47:52 Um these pre-existing cuz there's quite literally no reason Carl is on this show. He really has not provided much since his breakup with Lindsay. I think it's probably better for him to not be on the show. I think he would probably have it like he's just like he's just sort of elevated beyond it. He's sober. I feel like he's doing really well in his life. I don't know what purpose this the show serves him besides financial. Um, and he's now in so deep with his body, by the way, a serious purpose,

48:15 of course. So, I do think he kind of needs things to keep him in the mix a little bit because he does feel sort of like an outsider now with like these younger cast mates coming in like Wes and Jesse and so this is great if she's going to be on Summer House. She's great on Southern Charm. I think like I think this is good for both of them. Like I'm thinking this is business.

48:34 Yeah. But in terms of like a personality sense, I could see why they would click, but I don't know if like it could go the distance. And also like then again, it's the same Paige and Craig situation who's moving.

48:44 Yeah. I think the difference is that like I don't know. I feel like Venita would obviously move. Like Carl is like such a storied even though she has more of a f she has more of a future on Southern Charm than he does on Summer House.

48:54 Yeah. And like I don't know. She like has her house and her things. She's like very Charleston. I feel like

48:58 Yeah. And she's like settled sort of. Yeah. I feel like he's a little more transient.

49:02 Yeah. Except soft bar like he's got $900,000 due in rent. That's true. So like these are big like conversations have not to put too much pressure but it's like you know

49:13 it could become an issue down the line. I have I am not caught up on Southern Charm. I've seen people the Southern Charm community like being like where are the recaps?

49:20 Oh the the I'm going to catch up. I'm behind on SC Southern Charm and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills um because I've been watching like Traders and Tell Me Lies and I there's only so many hours in a day. Um

49:31 I feel like the stream it's like kind of like a streamy moment. Yeah. And I just like got behind on Southern Charm, but like I will I will find the time to get back to it because you know that's my comfort show.

49:41 Yeah. And like Zach carried on without me. Like it's the whole thing. Zach's been your husband's been watching Southern Charm.

49:45 Yeah. Like we usually watch together cuz it's a show that we both like and I don't know when he was he's like want to watch the new episode. I'm like new episode.

49:51 Oh wow. Now he's keeping up behind your back. Not very supportive. Not supportive. So then it's like, "Oh, well, we can't watch together because we're not, you know, so everything's just a mess."

50:00 And like he doesn't want to watch the old episodes again. And like, you don't want to be

50:03 I don't want to jump. I got to get to know Charlie. What's going on with Sally?

50:06 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'll try and pick it back up soon. But anyways, I think this is a cute couple and good for content if nothing else,

50:13 right? Good for Bravo Con. Like, it'll be fun if it's just for a moment. Neither of them are filming right now, so like maybe just wait.

50:19 Yeah. Wait a couple months. Yeah. So you don't like break up before you even get a chance to film and like see it. Yeah. And I feel like they're telling us about it like a little early on,

50:27 which is never a good sign. But fingers crossed. Yeah. Our fifth and they both seem like they want like a serious relationship. So if they're if their intentions are both

50:38 then I think that's a a good place to start. That's very true. Our fifth and final story leading into TV recap. Trey Alan Cummings.

50:46 Oh, please. Is this about their statement? Oh, no. Okay. This is about he gave an interview to Awards Radar talking about the banquet.

50:55 Yeah. He said a lot of things about the show. Some like inside baseball that's really interesting and like

50:58 like that they don't live at the castle, they live in a courtyard. Marriott. Oh, that we already knew. But no, he talked about like the roundts, how they play like spooky music for 5 minutes at the round table before Allan comes in. They like make the environment like very charged. He said like for a while like no one like speaks cuz we see that on the show. It's like who's going to who's going to throw it out there? But then it gets like so heated. um how it's really like a psychological torture experiment.

51:20 The fun thing about Allen coming is obviously him being really famous and like being the host. But I do feel like he loves his job. Like he's so caught up on the drama. I feel like and I don't know why this is coming as an example to me, but like like Ariana Maddox on Love Island. I feel like she has like no idea what's going on in the house. She just like comes does her twirls and leaves. I feel like Ellen is like obsessed. I feel like he's like a fan of everyone. I feel like he loves his job.

51:40 Yeah, I think he does too. Admired. Um he was asked what's the greatest moment TV moment in history and he said I think it's going to come in season 4 of the traitor. There's something that happens that is just so insane and they so they go nuts and there's some behavior that happens because of that it it's just outlandish. So I honestly it's certainly the best moment of traitor TV history. So we know that the banquet is next week but it

52:04 and he says when you hear the word banquet run it will probably be I don't know if it's going to be this episode. He said which episode it is. I think he said seven. And I don't know if that

52:13 I think we're on seven. Yeah, we're about to be seven. Yeah. Okay. So, next episode

52:16 3 2 1. They released three episodes, two episodes, then one. Okay, that would make this the seventh, right?

52:22 Oh, well, I hope so. Me, too. This the trailer looked good, but it always looks good. So, him saying this obviously like is I don't know if he's just hyping it up, but it does sound like something really crazy happens when they all sit down at that banquet. Um, this most recent episode was so good. I'm obsessed with the concept of this show and I feel like you really can never predict who is going to end up doing well because I feel like I remember saying at the beginning like Candace Diller was out like such a bad choice for a traitor. She's [ __ ] crushing it. Like I do understand why nobody has guessed her. Um and like what I had said was that Lisa was such a good trader and Candace is not going to be a good one. It's the total opposite. I'm shocked at how not only bad of a traitor Lisa is, how bad she is at confrontation. And she should be counting her her stars like that the internet like

53:09 Colton thought he was going to come on the show and like undo a lot of the poor image issues he had. And it's just having such a bad effect. I don't think he should have done it. It's having the opposite effect. It's just and he's being so creepy and weird and it's like well you accused of being creepy and you are creepy so like creepy is going to creep. And so Lisa's sort of like winning just because of goodwill. Like everyone hates Colton. But in terms of the show, like Colton is crushing Lisa. She's so bad when she's being accused.

53:34 She just like and Lisa [ __ ] Nobody cares. Like that's not a rebuttal. What what she was trying to say is that

53:41 she's more than a housewife. No, not even like I'm more than anyone could say that. But it's like she's not necessarily cast on the show because she was on housewives like

53:48 she's actually hasn't been on housewives for a couple of years, right? She h has 36 years of experience in the business. She's an actress. She could have been on the show as an actress, so she doesn't automatically just go into the housewife box.

53:57 Sure. Decent. I mean, it was like a great, you know, it was a slay for the internet, but I don't think Colton's buying it.

54:02 I mean, if he was like suspicious of her, her reactions have just sort of confirmed for him. And nobody cares that he's playing well now because we hate him. I mean, he was being really creepy this episode. even more like you can he had this like just sort of manic twinkle in his eye when he was like on to Lisa like that of a crazy person and so you can see how he did stalk and and harass someone because he's

54:26 kind of good at it like I'm going to hold Lisa hostage and he like has this like

54:29 very zeroed in insane like I've never seen him so excited like it's creepy. Um so Lisa's just winning popular opinion because she's up against the villain.

54:40 Yeah. But and and she's not getting properly criticized for being a horrific traitor. Her time is limited.

54:46 Yeah, it is. I thought Rob is playing an amazing game. Okay. So, when he turned around and said Lisa, like he got very lucky that Lisa didn't end up getting home um getting sent home because while they are a team, they're also playing for themselves. So, he did he has to protect the traitors, but he also has So, I understand why he did what he did and it was a very human moment for for Ron. Um and I was just so glad like everyone's pissing me off. You said it. You were like the eight of them were deciding to go in on Colton and not get swayed because Colton's always swing.

55:15 The whole thing Johnny said like he always comes to the table and he sways everyone. We have to get rid of him because he's not making a he does make good choices and he's leading us poorly. He's the leader but he's leading us poorly and we all get wrapped up in Colton. So they had eight people who were going to vote for Colton. And literally at the round table two of them got swayed by Colton. The reason why they were going to vote for him to begin with and didn't vote for him. know I I don't necessarily want Colton to go home cuz I think he's good for the show and he is on to Lisa. The traitors can't send him home now because

55:42 it's so obvious. Yeah. And I feel like they have yet to name someone where like when they say it it's like aha like you know there but when they he said Lisa like now everyone like looking back at her gameplay so far like it's so obvious. I don't know the No, but like the fact that she's this huge person and yes her rebuttal of like what do you want me to dance on a table? Like I'm not a housewife all the time. like I'm But she does have a huge personality. If anybody has watched her shows, they know that like she's a big mouth.

56:09 And that's Candace, too. And Candace is really leaning into that and it's very it's working for her.

56:13 Yeah. And Candace is like, you know, has a lot of camaraderie with the faithfuls. Like the fact that Tara and Johnny are like it's

56:21 going to trust her like Yeah. Well, also like the round table was so frustrating because when we're we're looking back, you know, Tiffany is very much Colton's doing and I guess

56:31 Porsha is Ron's doing and Ron's like, "But you also got Michael kicked out and I know it doesn't count cuz we don't like Michael, but you did." And it was like, "Thank you for find like everyone in this group is so easily brainwashed that like it actually it really is like a sociological experiment on how people who are even like really smart and um like tough otherwise like group think is so real because like yeah like Michael said something that we didn't like and it's like well you did falsely accuse him of being a traitor and like yeah you kind of got lucky that he said that but you still like that's still a a knock in your column and Ron's like but that doesn't count because we don't like Michael. Guess Ron stand up for yourself.

57:07 Yeah. And he almost turned that table. It was actually when I was watching him being in bed, I'm like, it's very tense. Like I I had no idea who was going.

57:15 Were able to turn that table for Lisa. That would have actually been masterful and he would have been right

57:20 and he would have been vindicated for everything. And he was so close to doing it because when they sat down it was either Ron or Colton going home. He had the eight votes. They were going to send him home. So the fact that he like got that close, he is good at this game. if he didn't have issues like in with in his personal life that the audience didn't like like he would be really goated so far in how he's playing the game.

57:42 Well, now I kind of worry for Candace cuz Candace has kind of been resting on Ron, right? She's like, I've said Ron from the beginning. So, she hasn't had to make any hard decisions because Ron is still there.

57:50 Now Ron is out. Lisa's name is being thrown around. But you don't vote for a housewife. So, she can easily go with that.

57:57 That's so true. Which is such a dumb rule. Yeah, cuz it's like it's not about what if you really think the housewife is a traitor, you're not going to vote for them because they're a housewife.

58:05 Michael Rapaort went on radio Andy and he said there's so much that hasn't been shown. Um there was apparently a huge like insane like housewives level blowup between Caroline Stanberry and Darinda and also um Ron and Darinda both of which they they say like Darinda's getting this like protective edit. Um they Michael Rapaort said that the fight between Caroline and Darinda really had nothing to do with traitors and that might be why it didn't make air. But during the round table between Direinda and Ron, it did like weirdly get heated when he was like my family.

58:37 And it was like that's kind of weird. And he was responding to comments being like there is so much lore there that like nobody knows.

58:43 Yeah. Um I would love to know what happened. And there is a traitor reunion. So, I do think a lot of these questions will get answered because it seems like a lot of people are fighting about things like that have nothing to do with the traitors.

58:52 Yeah. So, I'm curious. Well, it is a lot of personalities in one house and they like that's what they're used to doing is fighting.

58:59 Yeah. I guess like Darinda and I didn't watch last season, but she was like the first person sent home last season. So, people were really excited about her potential for being on the show and you know just because the game play like she got sent home. So, it's like I don't ride for Dinda like at all. I did not like her as a housewife. I think she like goes like really low and says like kind of the most evil [ __ ] you can say to someone and she's like, "Oh, I'm Darinda." I'm like, "Okay." Um, so I could see her like saying really mean things to Ron who's like just kind of like like weak.

59:24 Yeah. You know, he like doesn't defend himself well. And now he's Well, he does at the round tables.

59:29 He did. He had a great round table. He doesn't have a lot of allies. He doesn't really care to make them. He's just playing the game. And if he were a trader, he'd be the world's worst trader because he's not even trying to like be with the faithful. So, they're just like so surface level. I would love to watch the show played by people who are very smart and very good at gameplay. Unfortunately, they eliminated all the gamers.

59:47 That's sort of the core issue with traders is that it's designed to get rid of people who would be playing the game best.

59:57 Well, first they just got rid of people who they know play good games. They got rid of the rob and the survivor people just because they know them to be smart. They didn't even do anything yet. So it would be good to like when they do traders regulars it will be good because people don't have preconceived notions about each other only keeping like the dum dums around.

1:00:14 That's very true. That's very much like survivor regular survivor at cuz those survivor people are regular people who won survivor.

1:00:20 Yeah. Who are just like good at gaming but they're getting eliminated because of that. They didn't even start to game yet.

1:00:26 Yeah. I feel like not enough like they're always um like they target cult and they target people because they're kind of leaders like people. Yeah. And I feel like no one has targeted Natalie yet and she's not a traitor, but I feel like she's the exact type of person that this group would come after because she's always staring people the wrong way.

1:00:42 Yeah. And also they they need to understand and maybe in the past seasons it hasn't been this way and they're just going off of what people did last season because again like not the brightest bunch, but like if someone is putting themsel out there and like taking shots like and putting a target on their back, it's likely that they're not a traitor because that's so obvious that then they're going to be going next. Well, in this particular group, too, like they're just sort of hunting people who speak up, which is such a bad method because like, okay, so what are we supposed to do?

1:01:08 Yeah. Like really, you have to look at people who aren't speaking up, who would otherwise be speaking up, like Lisa.

1:01:13 And the Porsche thing is so crazy that people think Ron was a traitor because yes, he did bring it up, but then at the round table, she flubbed her words again, and that's really what turned a lot of people. So, it was like, yes, Ron's provided the evidence that did happen. He was just doing what he was supposed to do. But a lot of people said Porsha and voted for her because at that exact round table she said we killed like she messed up again.

1:01:31 But they but we did kill Ian because they put coffins in his grave but then the traitor sent him home. Like it was a group effort.

1:01:40 Yeah. Yeah. It's just like it wasn't all Ron. I agree. And it's like Porsha was way more popular than Ron,

1:01:47 right? So how could he have gotten her sent home when she had so much goodwill? I just feel like no one was on to Lisa, so she got kind of lazy and like the second there was any sort of heat on her. She just like sucks. Like she's being so kind of it's like painful to watch. Like she's just making that same Lisa right face like

1:02:05 and it's just not compelling. Like and you know what? She should have taken that Colton deal.

1:02:12 But what can she what can someone do once the suspicion's on them really? Unless

1:02:17 she could have told everyone at the round table like, you know, Colton is here for himself and he tried to make a deal with me. He thinks I'm a traitor, but I'm not. Except that really just confirms to people that Colton is not a traitor.

1:02:32 Yeah. Cuz I wondered like why wouldn't she tell everyone that makes Colton look so bad and it makes her look like a team player. Like look, he's trying to just save himself, but like but then I guess it pretty much confirms that like in back door rooms he's

1:02:44 not a not a traitor. But sometimes they need to eliminate people who they know are faithfuls who are distracting to the game who keep bringing up names and their sniffer is off like and if we're going to if this person is very compelling that we're going to listen to them all the time and they keep giving us the wrong name then they are getting in the way of the game. Just can't stand Colton. Oh and then like traders put out this statement on their social media.

1:03:02 Very Love Island USA. Very Love Island USA. Except Love Island USA was like kind of like responsible for a lot of the um

1:03:11 us. So they put out this like black and white statement just like about bullying. Um

1:03:16 who is who is like being bullied? I believe Colton cuz like this was the first week that like sort of like you know Demi from his season has been making a lot of Tik Toks like if you watch the Bachelor and I feel like so few people now like who are in reality or were watching reality back then. So not a lot of people know I feel like a lot of people at the round tables and stuff do not know that um Colton has this like sorted past. Um, so this week was like the first time he like was acting really creepy. And people are like, "Well, if you want to know his lore about being creepy." So they posted the statement, "We are committed to making our cast feel safe, respected, and supported on screen and off. The cast of the Traitors are real people and what happens in the game should never lead to cyber bullying or harassment. There's a difference between discussing a show and targeting individuals. So let's not ruin the

1:04:00 passion for this show with unwarranted negativity and personal attacks. We appreciate your support." And I have to assume that means is regarded to Colton, right?

1:04:10 Yeah. I don't really know who else is getting heat other than Michael Rapaort was they didn't write that statement when New York magazine said it was Michael Rapaort ruining traitors.

1:04:17 Um it's those things are always so full of [ __ ] to me. It's so like performative transparent and it's like well if you really cared about bullying and harassment you wouldn't have cast a harasser,

1:04:27 right? So I don't know what that could I've been seeing a lot that like the edit like the way the show is manipulated in so many ways is crazy. When they're filming the show they're incredibly manipulated. They like even they do so they film so many things so many times. want to keep the scent off of people, but like they are literally in like this crazy experiment to begin even playing spooky music before Allan comes out. Like they're manipulating the cast. Then they manipulate the edit to make it look like other things and then like we are just like piecing together stuff. So I feel like they're most interested in like high entertainment value, not like protecting people's mental health in a show that's literally like a stamp

1:05:01 a psychological Yeah. experiment. Yeah. You know, I hate when when shows do this. Like

1:05:05 they did the same thing to Love Island. They're [ __ ] with these people so bad. They're keeping people on who are unstable.

1:05:10 They're letting like Instagram drama penetrate. They literally kicked out Sierra for like an old Instagram post. They like they feed into a lot of that internet drama and then they're like stop bullying.

1:05:20 No. And like they're they keep people on. They manipulate things to keep people on who are having a hard time and acting crazy because they want the crazy. And then we're like, "That person's crazy." And they're like, "Don't call them crazy." And it's like, "Well, you left the crazy person on and you cast them in the first place

1:05:32 and you're making them crazy." Yeah. No, totally. I hate when when um shows do that.

1:05:38 Just like be do be the show that you said you want. Like if you really care about the show, like implement changes to protect but you don't actually care. So like stop yelling at us, right?

1:05:47 We're we're just watching your show. We're reacting to what you put out. Right. Right. In a crazy way.

1:05:51 Right. Um and by the way, I didn't bully or harass anyone. No. And like if we're going to start accusing people of harassing, let's just start with the man who has a restraining order against his ex-girlfriend. Like please. It's crazy that she never talks about it.

1:06:05 She must be [ __ ] traumatized. Like we everybody talks about like the car uh the tracker.

1:06:10 The tracker, which in and of itself is a crazy thing to doodle your ex-girlfriend. Like you put a tracker on her vehicle. Um but he was like textually assaulting like all of her family members. Like it was like this thing, this really traumatic thing her and her family went through. She removed herself from public life after that and like literally is married like no nobody knows anything. She her sister's famous now. Like she does not mess with fame. It must have been the most traumatizing thing. Oh, and all the while he's like coming out as gay. It would it must have been the most confusing weird thing. Um, so yeah, she was like quite literally never seen again.

1:06:45 Yeah, it must have been worse than we even imagined. Like like we and then the fact that she doesn't like chime in now like you know with this like anyone else would be like with a shitty Instagram like

1:06:55 no she wants no part of this. That's but how you know he's like really scary and crazy.

1:06:59 Yeah. So yeah, please save the the who do you think Lisa Rinda will kill with her brooch?

1:07:05 I saw a good theory. I feel like theor Direinda because one, Direinda's like sort of the backup that Colton has and being like Lisa Rinda's not usually like this and I feel like she could easily get Direinda to touch her brooch be like oh my god feel my brooch.

1:07:20 Yes, but how would they just like who could they blame that on being like who would want to kill Darinda right now besides Rena? She was beefing with Ron, but Ron's gone.

1:07:30 Yeah. It could just be like a traceless killing. Like if she killed Eric. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe

1:07:35 because why would a housewife It's not traceless. Why would a housewife Maybe they look like they're framing Darinda. Framing Lisa.

1:07:43 Yeah. It's not a perfect theory, but she really needs to get rid of someone. It can't be Colton.

1:07:51 It could be Colton because if say she was a faithful and they get rid of Colton. Well, a faithful wouldn't get rid a traitor wouldn't get rid of Colton because he's so good at like missing the mark, but it would be a great way to then put to frame Lisa and then everyone

1:08:07 she could say I'm being framed. Yeah. Which is a And then she at least she like gets rid of Colton.

1:08:13 Yeah. Which is like before he successfully takes her down, which she's about to.

1:08:17 Or he gets a shield cuz he said, "I'll get a shield every time. You won't be able to kill me."

1:08:20 But if they don't kill him now, they're never going to kill him because we'll always lead back to Lisa.

1:08:24 Yeah. And I feel like not killing him is confirmation that it's Lisa Rena. That is true.

1:08:28 Like no one's really thinking two steps ahead. Yeah. And it's not even about thinking two steps ahead. It's about like just being able to successfully argue your point and like make them believe that of course they wouldn't. They're going to kill they killed Colton to now you guys will all target me. Like you could really like manipulate. They're not like the brightest.

1:08:47 Yeah. Because if everybody thinks Lisa is a traitor and she's not, the traitors would kill Colton because it makes Lisa looks like like the traitor. So she could say that too. Yeah. Yeah. It's just about being a good arguer and a good like verbal manipulator of which Lisa is like not.

1:09:00 Yeah. And Colton is right. Ron is they got to get rid of Colton. Ron was Yeah. Rob and Candace are doing great. I feel like they has a traitor ever won.

1:09:14 I don't know. I feel like it's really hard. I would love to see it because none of the faithfuls who are still there unless Colton wins and it would be well earned. Aside from his reasons we don't like him, he would have earned that win. No one everyone else is just coasting by Mark Ballas when he should win.

1:09:27 I feel like Mark Ballas like I feel like he's a big personality and he might be getting like cut out because where is he? But like you know who's giving quite literally nothing? Mora.

1:09:35 Yeah, she's been like wholly disappointing except that like her and Rob have to run away together.

1:09:38 Well, I feel like if they fall in love and then he's a traitor like it might make for interesting TV down the line.

1:09:43 I love that. But so far she's not giving much. But I'll hold out hope because she has a big personality. But like Tara and Johnny and Jam Jam and Steven Kleti, even though he seems like a standup guy.

1:09:53 That was nice. Yeah. Um I don't want to see one of them win. They didn't earn anything.

1:09:57 Agreed. They're just like being group think followers who were just the last man standing.

1:10:01 Yeah. Yeah. And Mark Ballas. I'll put him in that category too. Yeah. Even Natalie a little bit.

1:10:06 Yes. Natalie. That was a crazy outfit she was wearing. And also Christine. Kristen. Yeah.

1:10:11 Like she should she's smart. I just get the vibe that she's like a smart person and she's just not being smart.

1:10:16 Yeah. It's group think. She's just getting swayed by the group at majority rules.

1:10:18 She's just another number and I don't want to see one of those people win because it's not earned. They're not taking risks

1:10:24 and they're not like critically thinking. Yeah. Yeah. Um Okay. Well, that's your traders recap. That was your show. Anything else we need to chitchat about before we go?

1:10:34 No, I think that's all. And if we do, we could talk about it tomorrow. Such an amazing thing we have here.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "An Unremarkable Student: Monday, January 26th, 2026"?

Jackson Claude (Host), Claudia (Guest).

What is "An Unremarkable Student: Monday, January 26th, 2026" about?

In this light-hearted conversation, the hosts share a personal anecdote about a clumsy incident at Trader Joe's, where one of them slipped on fruit while shopping for cheese. The story unfolds humorously as they discuss the mishap, the grocery shopping experience, and the potential for a lawsuit due to the fall, illustrating the everyday trials and awkward moments of life.

What is mentioned in this The Toast episode?

11 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, Alex Honnold, Pat McGrath, Katy Perry, Trader Joe's. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "An Unremarkable Student: Monday, January 26th, 2026"?

The episode runs 1 h 11 min; the transcript is about 16,954 words in 398 timestamped sections.

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