Another Year in the Garbage Can: Friday, February 13th, 2026

What this episode is about

The conversation centers on the hosts celebrating emotional milestones, including a birthday and an annual community event known as "Colgate Day." The hosts discuss personal connections, traditions, and the nuances of name changes among married friends, highlighting the blend of personal and cultural celebrations.

Key takeaways

• Colgate Day and a birthday on Friday the 13th: luck or just an excuse for cake?
• Changing your name post-marriage: a societal experiment on identity or just a branding strategy?
• Michaela Nggera's divorces and mascara controversies: proof that drama fuels star power.
• Emotional phone calls from iCloud: modern love tangled in tech glitches.
• Colgate alumni bringing culture back, but let’s not ignore the power of casual beach vibes.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Jackson Claude (Host) · 36 min speaking
• Jaclyn Folet (Guest) · 36 min speaking
• Dana Holsburg (Guest) · 4 min speaking
• Michaela Linaro (Guest) · 7 min speaking
• Joey Kamasta (Guest) · 4 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: American Apparel, Beverly Hills, Dana Holsburg, Michaela Nggerro
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Gold Bond, Cody Hawin, stamps.com, Michaela Linaro
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Michaela Nggerro, Taylor Swift
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Freda Baby, Taylor Swift
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Taylor Swift
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Taylor Swift
7. 1:00:00 – 1:10:00: Beverly Hills
8. 1:10:00 – 1:11:13: Freda Baby

Notable quotes from "Another Year in the Garbage Can: Friday, February 13th, 2026"

• I'm getting emotional. It is an emotional day. It's my baby's birthday.

  about Jaclyn Folet · at 0:37

• Michaela Nggerro things we like didn't predict, but it's just crazy how on the pulse we are.

  about Michaela Nggerro · at 3:19

• They made great strides in the bodysuit world.

  about American Apparel · at 6:57

• Lauron Beach bag I'm borrowing during my trip to Florida. It's a members only club where you can borrow designer bags, jewelry, watches, even diamonds. So, it's basically a rotating dream closet that you don't have to commit to. The.

  about Vivrell · at 10:55

• Stamps.com is a part resource for swirly business owners. Right now, you can try stamps.com risk-free for 60 days. Go to stamps.com, use code toast to get 60 days risk-f free.…

  about stamps.com · at 13:20

• Can shop them all on Amazon. And as always, use as directed. Our first story of the day, the aforementioned divorce news between influencer Michaela Linaro and her husband Cody…

  about Michaela Linaro · at 16:30

• Yeah, we spoke about this at the top of the show, but popular baby care brand Freda Baby is facing backlash over inappropriate marketing campaigns.

  about Freda Baby · at 37:52

• She also made a video for the women for the Olympic team like saying Go get them.

  about Taylor Swift · at 50:31

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Jaclyn Folet — Person · Co-host / on-mic participant · 1 mention · first at 0:30
  Addressed directly at the top of the episode; shares personal context (baby's birthday) and participates throughout the banter and story discussion.
• Michaela Linaro — Person · Primary news subject (influencer divorce story) · 2 mentions · first at 16:35
  Main subject of the episode’s first ‘fast five’ story: she announces divorce from Cody Hawin; hosts analyze her content style, privacy stance, and online persona.
• Michaela Nggerro — Person · Referenced influencer / discussion subject (name variant) · 3 mentions · first at 3:19
  Discussed as a frequently-talked-about influencer; the hosts connect her to “Mascara Gate,” L’Oréal campaign chatter, and divorce news—though the transcript later names “Michaela Linaro,” suggesting this is a mis-transcription/variant.
• Cody Hawin — Person · Referenced spouse (divorce counterpart) · 3 mentions · first at 16:37
  Named as Michaela Linaro’s husband; discussed in the context of privacy, recovery/relapse mention, and amicable divorce framing.
  Always, use as directed. Our first story of the day, the aforementioned divorce news between influencer Michaela Linaro and her husband Cody Hawin. She has shared that they are…
• Taylor Swift — Person · Referenced celebrity / pop culture anchor · 4 mentions · first at 27:16
  Referenced in multiple pop-culture threads: Ma-jong speculation with Blake Lively, Olympics engagement comment, and broader Travis/Kelce adjacency.
• Dana Holsburg — Person · Referenced friend / community member · 3 mentions · first at 0:42
  Mentioned as the person who texts about “Colgate Day,” and as an example in a discussion about married name changes.
  Okay. Okay. Moving on. happy Colgate Day to all who celebrate. Dana Holsburg specifically. Oh, sorry.
• Joey Kamasta — Person · Referenced friend / texter · 2 mentions · first at 4:03
  Mentioned as someone who texted the host reacting emotionally to a clip; used to characterize a more “R-rated” comedic sensibility.
  They're obsessed with her because she just got a campaign with L'Oreal for a mascara and like now they're making a joke about it like cuz it's on TikTok it's referred to lovingly.

Companies & orgs

• Freda Baby — Company · Business focus · 3 mentions · first at 37:55
  A baby care brand facing backlash over inappropriate marketing campaigns.
• American Apparel — Company · Referenced company · 4 mentions · first at 6:46
  A clothing brand discussed for its impact on fashion culture.
• Colgate — Company · Referenced company · 2 mentions · first at 0:44
  Mentioned in the context of Colgate Day.
  It's also Colgate Day. So, every Friday the 13th is what we call Colgate Day in the Colgate community. This is the first time Harry was born on the 13th, but this is the first time his birthday has.
• L'Oreal — Company · Referenced company · 1 mention · first at 4:09
  A cosmetics company mentioned in the context of a mascara campaign.
  They're making a joke about it like cuz it's on TikTok it's referred to lovingly as Mascara Gate. and she became like a global face of L'Oreal for their new mascara launch and…

Places & events

• Beverly Hills — Place · Setting · 4 mentions · first at 3:00
  Mentioned in the context of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
  And Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Sponsors

• Vivrell — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 10:47
  A members-only club where you can borrow designer bags, jewelry, watches, and diamonds.
• stamps.com — Product · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at 12:09
  A service that allows you to send from your computer or your phone 24/7.
• Pepsi — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 15:00
  A beverage brand that was discussed in the context of its Super Bowl spot.
  Stamps.com code to ost. Today's episode of the toast is also brought to you by Pepsi, a dream sponsor for me. Last Sunday, the Pepsi Super Bowl spot kind of forced people to have some hard.
• Gold Bond — Product · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at 15:06
  A brand of scented hand creams discussed for their moisturizing benefits.
  I have been talking a lot about being crusty. And we're not crusty anymore, but you might be. Let me introduce you to the Gold Bond scented hand creams.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:04 Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. Hope everybody's having a great day. kicking off acknowledging the space, etc., etc. Hello, Jaclyn Folet. How are you today?

0:33 I'm great today. It's Friday. She's getting emotional. I'm getting emotional. It is an emotional day. It's my baby's birthday.

0:39 I know. It's my bab's birthday. So, that's emo. And then Dana texted me this morning. It's also Colgate Day. So, every Friday the 13th is what we call Colgate Day in the Colgate community. This is the first time Harry was born on the 13th, but this is the first time his birthday has fallen on a Colgate Day. So, it's really just a a meshing of all beautiful things.

1:00 And they say white people have no culture. Colgate day. That's so like you got Colgate is like,

1:04 "Don't be rude." No. Colgate jealous. So jealous that I went to a college with lore.

1:09 Okay. Okay. Moving on. Um, happy Colgate Day to all who celebrate. Dana Holsburg specifically. Oh, sorry. I cannot There are some people like it's funny how like you like your married people like who they like whose names change forever and I'm sorry she's Dana Hollesburg forever.

1:27 Oh, she's done a really good job of morphing. She will be Dana Holtzburg cuz like that's how we know her. But she peeps in with the Webman for me. Like she as much as she could change in my mind, she has.

1:38 Yeah. It's just like it's never going to happen for me. I'm such like a stubborn person for like all my married friends. Like try like Dana went extreme. Like the second she got married, she changed her Gmail. Like she changed everything. Yeah. Like everything. And then some people slowly transition. I just can't.

1:51 The slow transition doesn't work. No. Like changing your Instagram handle is a really it's an expedited way. Like I will start but like even No, I just Sorry. She's Lauren Bushnell, you know?

2:02 No. She's Lauren Bushnell. She's so Lauren Lane. I'm so Maybe it's like the feminist in me.

2:07 Oh, you want to keep women as their independent selves? I want to keep women down. Yeah.

2:12 Or up. Oh my god. I called you last night. Did you? just remind me after the show like actually I called you from Ben's phone so I um

2:18 What? Yeah. So you didn't pick up. Let me see. Oh my god. No. I would never miss a call from Lis. Oh, a FaceTime from his from his iCloud account.

2:25 Oh, Ben's having iCloud issues. So maybe my phone screened that. Yes, Ben is very um boomer in the sense that like every time his phone rings, his computer starts ringing. Even if the computer's closed and now every time he facetimes me, it's the iCloud.

2:39 Got it. I think my phone must have screened um I'm not going to blast his email, but at icicloud.com. Yeah. No, it's actually been like an issue for the whole family.

2:46 I wonder what you had to say to me. Just remind me after. It's nothing of great import. You guys don't need to be like jealous about what I'm telling Jackie. It's just like minor like administrative task like things for the family.

2:56 Okay, great. Yeah, we such a busy show today. First of all, did you watch Treyas?

3:00 Of course I did. And Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Of course I did. And then we also um have Queenie and Weenie. And I feel um I just feel excited about the potential for today's episode, you know?

3:09 Yeah, there's a lot to discuss and like we have five stories. The stories are storying.

3:14 Oh, and yeah. What? Yeah. The stories. Yeah. Michaela Nggerro things we like didn't predict, but it's just crazy how on the pulse we are.

3:24 Yeah. Unless like the two things are related cuz I guess but of course they are.

3:30 So we were just sort of putting a magnifying glass to that. I don't feel like predict I feel like we magnified a situation. We are just like radioactive. Like everything near us, like everything in our orbit like is on fire in good and bad ways.

3:44 It doesn't sound good. Like Michaela Nggera doesn't get spoken about on like podcasts a lot, but when she does, like she gets divorced. I just

3:52 She's always But also, is it like she was spoken about once and she got divorced or like she's always doing something? She's always in the zeitgeist.

4:01 She's crazy. Everyone's obsessed with her. Just you. Oh my god. Joey Kamasta. Oh, everyone is remember the mascara.

4:07 Oh, yeah. Of course. You know, they're still talking about it. They're obsessed with her

4:09 because she just got a campaign with L'Oreal for a mascara and like now they're making a joke about it like cuz it's on TikTok it's referred to lovingly as Mascara Gate. Um, and she became like a global face of L'Oreal for their new mascara launch and they were talking about, you know, Mascara Gate. So, yeah, she's made coin off of the mascara fiasco.

4:27 Good. Yeah. Joey Kamasta texted me last night that he was on the floor. where he said his pillow was wet from the tears he was crying at that clip that we posted about you seeing the let me ad for the first time. He's obsessed with like when you're uncomfortable like and sexual innuendos cuz when you guys um did the episode during my maternity leave it was like a lot of that cuz Joey's very like R-rated

4:48 and you're not. Um he was crying. It was so funny. It was really funny. I just was very unexpected.

4:56 Um how were you celebrating the big day? a big day. Well, it's a big weekend. It's a holiday weekend, which is so fun. So, it's just like bus club. Another bus club. And I think we're going to do a little beach day today perhaps. Let's see if weather permits.

5:14 I'm wearing shorts. Yeah, I packed a t-shirt. I have a beach bag in my car. Okay. T-shirt.

5:18 Back to the beach. Oh, you're so I know this is looks like a t-shirt, but it's actually a leotard. And if I'm going to be like breastfeeding by the beach, I need a t-shirt, not a leotard.

5:26 That's really crazy that you're wearing a leotard. Well, it's these are like my nudes bodysuits. Um, I have them in every color. I wore them a lot before I got pregnant. I wore them every day. They're just like they're better than t-shirts.

5:37 I know. I know. There's just something crazy about being a postpartum woman wearing a leotard.

5:41 It's a t-shirt bodysuit. So, like I don't want anyone to clips at the it clips. And like if your breast It's not a thong, is it?

5:49 No, it's Well, I'm wearing undies. Okay. But like sometimes the bodysuits are like thong. It's not thong and it's not not thong

5:58 Oh, like it's not I'll show you later. Oh, how exciting. The beach. Um, okay. That's just crazy. I have not

6:06 changed into my t-shirt. I haven't worn like a leotard bodysuit long before I got pregnant. Like to me, that's just a part of my former life.

6:13 It was just this the the shirt for the job today. Okay. I I I don't know how else to describe it. And I feel good about it. It's not bothering me.

6:21 It's not. No. I imagine though um and I don't want to, you know, get too personal, but I imagine like wearing underwear and then like a thong like bodysuit is kind of weird.

6:32 Not if it's like not these are why the nudes ones are great. Have you seen them? I don't wear body. If I showed it to you, you would understand. It's a t-shirt. Looks like a t-shirt and then at the bottom it just like

6:43 has a stretchy underc carriage. It's not like what you remember from American apparel of like a bodysuit.

6:50 You just unlocked. I I know that's what you're thinking is happening at what I was thinking.

6:54 They made great strides. Let's talk about American Apparel, can we? They made great strides in the bodysuit world.

6:59 Did they make a documentary? I think they did. I didn't watch it. Okay. Cuz they should make a documentary

7:03 cuz I can't give any more of my life to American Apparel than I already did. They should make a documentary obviously about American Apparel, but just about that one store on Third Avenue and like 66th Street. The way it shaped a generation.

7:16 It shaped the culture. That store in particular was insane. like the draw. It was literally like Soho House. Like it was such a place to see and be seen when it went out of business. Like it was devastating for the community. And like what were we even buying? Their hoodies and like V-neck T-shirts.

7:33 Yes. The V-necks. Yeah. It was like the modern. And now there are so many brands that

7:38 like do what they did. It's not as revolutionary concentrated into one brand. It's like everyone's wearing one. Randy Melville. Yeah.

7:50 Uh Maidwell, J Crew, all the staples. You know, you can go anywhere for your staple skims.

7:56 Back in the day, there was one and it was American Apparel. You need a t-shirt, American Apparel. You need a sweatshirt, American Apparel. You need leggings, American Apparel. It's not American Apparel. Everyone's going to know. And

8:05 it was such a status symbol. Even though it wasn't like the most expensive like, but it was like high like

8:11 it was elevated staples. Elevated Staples. Fugly Staples. Like purple zip-ups. fuggly staples.

8:18 And when I look back on pictures from high school, like it's ex like I was wearing it every day.

8:22 Every day. And it's like today I'm gonna wear my nice purple zipper and like my black dressed up today. I'll wear my yellow purple zip.

8:32 And the thing Oh. Oh. What's your timer for? I don't even I didn't even know you could set a timer.

8:38 Sure. No, for real. You don't have to take like a vitamin or something? No, I don't take vitamins. That's why I have like these white lines on my fingernails.

8:46 You don't have to do an injection. No, I took my Satbound last night. What else? I don't take birth control. Like,

8:52 um, what else do people set timers for? I'm not I'm not hard boiling eggs. Like, I don't know what the hell my phone was going off for.

8:58 Okay. Well, she's awake. Her eggs are boiled. Yeah. What were we talking about? Oh, and as sisters, like we had a like, you know, you had a bit of a a uniform. We didn't wear uniforms to school, but you know, you always wore like a white t-shirt or whatever. You had white t-shirts that were American Apparel and white t-shirts that were not American Apparel and like you would always have to keep them in the rotation like of when you laundered them. And then if like a sister took like the good American Apparel t-shirt, it was such a fight. Like what drugs were they putting in those t-shirts?

9:27 I don't know. It was crack for kids. It was What is crack for kids today? Roblox

9:34 demon hunters. Leuboo. I feel like that came and went. Like I think Laboo's over. I don't know though. If you're young, let me know.

9:42 I think they're cute. What's the I don't know the point. Is it the point to wear it on a handbag?

9:46 Well, on the Real House of Beverly Hills, when I saw Dar wearing one on a handbag, it felt like a throwback cuz they filmed this obviously like a year ago. Um, and I don't think labuboos are booing labubing.

9:56 Really? I feel like they've sort of settled into like whatever they're going to be.

9:59 No, I think they've actually faded like as I believe they were like a marker of the time and the time has moved.

10:04 Did you ever get one? No. Did I got one in PR? I got one in PR from the bar. Me, too. So, um,

10:09 and it brought great joy to my household. There was someone in my life who like loved Leubu, so I gave it to them.

10:14 Wow. Yeah, I'm generous of spirit. That's really sweet. So, I'm glad to have had one. Yeah,

10:19 I get it. I got it. You know, like they are stinking cute. Yeah. Are we going to make it a story? The Freedom Baby thing.

10:28 Yes. Okay. Cuz I really actually want to talk about that. I'm feeling sick inside.

10:32 I kind of am, too. I'm feeling sick. All right. So, I feel like the stories are actually

10:35 There's a lot of stories plus two TV recaps. So, Oh my god. Plus clean and we need So let's just get into everything that we need to discuss. Without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.

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16:55 Happily. I literally have it saved. I want to hear it from Michaela's mouth. From Michaela.

16:59 God forbid I follow her. It's a long video. She posted it on both platforms. This video by saying I appreciate you.

17:05 Can I see her? I love her. And you're going to want to sit down for this video.

17:11 She's so I'm sad. I love her. I am getting a divorce. Take a minute. Take it in. I am getting a divorce. Cody and I love each other so much.

17:27 Love each other so much. We would do literally anything. That's a great That sounds like a great marriage.

17:34 Great marriage. Well, I'm not going to be sharing any details whatsoever as to why Cody and I have made this decision. The main reason I am doing that is because I want to protect Cody.

17:49 Cody deserves that. We both want to heal. Cody deserves to be happy. Cody deserves to be happy. So do I. This is an extremely shitty thing. No one gets married to get a divorce. Absolutely no one. But what I can tell you is that this is very amicable. We talk every day. He comes over for dinner. He sees the dogs. And I were together for five years, married for two. And they are some of the best memories of my life. Memories that I cherish. No.

18:27 Okay. So, so they're perfect best friends and they love each other and they respect each other and they love to talk and have dinner. You should get married.

18:32 Yes. So, lots to discuss in case you are just listening as a podcast. Um, you know, full beat, you know, Michaela J.

18:40 Well, nothing less full beat uh natural sunlight, her face pressed up against a window. Okay. Um, it was so dramatic like, you know, turtleneck sweater. Like, I lived for the staging. Okay. I knew what she was going to say before she even said it. There's been so much speculation about Cody. If you've been following this for like literally 2 years, um, he's been missing a lot. And then like a year ago, she shared that he relapsed with his addiction. So everybody just sort of backed off and like didn't look so much into where is he? He's not in the videos because obviously he's going through active recovery. Um and everybody just sort of like backed off. There have been so then she like at the end of last year which she said that they decided to get divorce at the end of last year. She posted content for like a month that she was in bed inconsolable grieving, grieving, grieving. She can't tell us

19:21 why. Can't tell us why. Like a lot of like really annoying like clickbaity type of stuff.

19:24 But now we know that all of those things was the divorce. Okay. Now, I just find this annoying because while I actually like her message being like, "I'm not telling you [ __ ] what happened." Like, people are so awful to her. Like, really, really awful.

19:34 People share too much in general, a thousand%. And he's a private person. This is like not at all what he wanted for his life. So, I I respect the message, but her delivery is so um almost like she's baiting people. Like the video goes on for like two more minutes. I'm not telling you why. Don't even try and guess. It's not about his recovery. Like, so what is it? Like, I wouldn't have even cared if it were creating more mystery. Obviously,

19:56 that's cuz she's great at her job. She's amazing at her job. Um, now, do we want to guess like what?

20:03 I listen, I didn't even know that her husband's name was Cody. I think I remember that she got married because there was some drama

20:10 that like she kicked out she disinvited like her actual family members and friends so she could invite influencers, which was like a lie.

20:16 Was there a drama with her wedding dress? No. I feel like there was a drama surrounding something in her wedding and it's not what you just said because that doesn't sound familiar. No, but like the drama was like how many influencers were there and like a girl made a video being like I'm her best friend from college and I got kicked out of the wedding so like you know Remy Bader could come

20:33 obsessed with Michaela. The girl. Yeah. No, the internet is obsessed with Michaela and there have been so many scandals, drama and a lot of them are rooted rooted in complete lies. Like the wedding thing was a lie.

20:44 She deals with so much this girl. Like I actually feel bad for her. She's just so polarizing for people and when all she does is makeup. Now, something to note about the video, and I'm surprised you didn't mention it, is her accent is completely gone.

20:57 It is? Yeah. Listen. Yeah. No, listen. Let's hear it again. And I do not regret a single thing. Nor does Cody.

21:05 Cody is going so much speculation. But in the past, she would have there would have been so much speculation. I sound like Julian Moore in in 30 Rock where she plays Irish Boston, girlfriend of Alec Baldwin. That's good. Well, then it's good.

21:23 No, Nancy. So, you crushed it. Um, and then actually like two weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago, Michaela made another video. She's always like making these grand sweeping statements and then like going back to normal, but basically being like her entire internet career has been a lie. She hates that. Like, you know, I do feel like I actually thought she was being really honest in this video being like she got so famous, so wealthy overnight. And she's like, "It changed me completely. I became obsessed with like influencer lifestyle, money. Um, she said everything that you've seen on my page in the last couple of years has been a complete lie. I think she was referring to the accent cuz she's like very slowly dropped it. Um, and it's funny because the accent was a thing on on the internet for like a year. People did not they were finding videos of her from college talking normal and then no one's

22:04 talking about the fact that her accent is completely gone. Kim Kardashian. Well, I think that's like everyone has a role to play.

22:12 Go to pot two. Like everyone has a role to play on the internet. Have you been seeing the Becca Bloom stuff?

22:18 I've been seeing the Becca Bloom stuff. Yes. They say she's poor. That she's not nearly as wealthy as she's been like acting on the internet. Okay. She's playing a role. She's telling us a story. Kayor

22:31 Mhm. Ngera. Ngera is playing a role on the internet as like you play up whoever you are. Everybody is, you know,

22:38 a little extra. Yeah. Except for us. We're so authentic. We're ourselves. And that's why we're failures. Like we that's why we will never be like big stars because all we do is tell the truth. Like

22:49 I completely agree. Like if we amped it up, if we turned it up, if we like made ourselves fit into a box and then blew up the box, like we would crush it.

22:58 No, like we just started like telling lies. Like we're just so honest. Like I come over here and tell you guys like what color my poop was. Like nobody wants to see that. And that's why we're failures. Like that's why this is a tiny show and we'll never take off.

23:06 It's true. It's actually 100% true. I know. Anyways, like our greatest strength, it's our Achilles heel is our weakness. is our honesty and authenticity.

23:15 Yeah, it's the year of authenticity. So, unfortunately for us, another year in the garbage can.

23:23 Maybe next year will be like the year of putting it on. Like the thing is I don't put it on because I'm literally so lazy. Like do you know creative and like how much thought and time you have to like put into like making videos that aren't just like your cons like stream of conscious?

23:36 Yes. But and we're also like talking technically like you can put on for 3 minutes in a video on Instagram. We're like sat here six hours a week like Yeah. It's gonna slip. Yeah.

23:46 Um Michaela, we didn't even talk about the Lemi ad and how this plays into it. Like,

23:50 well, of course. So, I don't really want to theorize cuz she literally asked us not to.

23:54 Oh, but right. Sorry. A lot of what she was saying. No, but also No, I don't even want to theorize. Oh, maybe they divorced cuz he never like

24:01 Well, no, but what she said, but they're divorcing because blank and that's why he never

24:08 blanked. That's what that's what that's what the internet's saying. By the way,

24:11 for me more so, it's like because they are divorced, she could make that ad. Well, I'm relieved to hear that they are divorced because she made that ad and that's your man and

24:21 you went back home like how your day at work. Good just told everyone, you know, rate me out. Like insane.

24:28 Yeah. So, I'm actually thrilled that they're divorcing for that reason alone. Yeah. Because they don't have to live with the the aftermath of the ad.

24:35 Yeah. They don't have to have dinner together like knowing that exists. Yeah. Well, they still do have dinner together, she said.

24:42 Yeah. For the dogs. The dogs. I mean, I don't know what's next for one Michaela. Like, she's kind of in a transitional period. Like I said, she made this like huge video at the end of the year being like, "Everything has been a lie. I just want to go back to like the normal girl that I am and stop lying to everyone." And like I got so caught up with like the money and the fame and I'm just like going back to being the girl that I am. Um, so that means no man and no accent. Like I'm down.

25:06 I just like I don't know why it's so hard to keep up like the lie. Like I think it was like taking a toll on her mental health.

25:12 Really? Yeah. Her last like she was hysterically crying in that video to get on like to put on a little show like a couple videos a week, whatever. Like being this like extra person like rake it in and then go and enjoy your private life. Like why is that like so

25:26 so it's like it's like five videos a day. Okay. It's mostly makeup. So like she doesn't have to get personal with it. I think that maybe is like what she's going to do now. She's like closing the chapter on her personal life being and like I follow her like literally for makeup. I'm always buying [ __ ] that like I literally do not give a [ __ ] how many dogs she has, how many boyfriends she has. Like for me and I think a lot of people like we come to her, we come to this place for makeup. Like um so just do that. You don't have to share with us. Like if I had a

25:50 No, but people demand it. Like you're sound of mind, but like people in I know she's so young. She's so young.

25:55 Yeah. And it's like you feel so I understand why that's hard on your mental health, but like faking an accent like just just do it.

26:02 Yeah. Know it's like it's theater. It is theater, but if it's more than that, if she like really feels like she's giving a piece of herself to the world and then everybody like beats her up,

26:10 right, that hurts. Yeah, Charlotte Tilbury. I love her. Charlotte, if she has no fans, Claudia, stop showing me her TikTok.

26:19 Literally. No, she is a character and she like you can't put Michaela in a box. You can't.

26:25 No, you can't. But um looking forward to see who she dates next. List of eligibles.

26:29 Literally add her to the list. I would love to. I mean, she's also like Boston strong. Well, no, that's what they said with the marathon. Like, she's Boston proud. Thank you. Um, so like maybe she could date Mark Wahlberg.

26:39 Mark Wahlberg. Yeah. The two of them together with their voices. Match made in heaven.

26:45 If they make another Ted, she has to be in it. You know, they're making a TED TV show. It's on Peacock. Thank god I still have my Peacock subscription for the Olympics.

26:51 Well, she should be in it. I saw a commercial for it. Like, it's our boys are back in town.

26:55 She should voice like Ted's wife, girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah. Free idea. It's a great idea.

27:02 Are you ready for our next story? Some really adorable news from like some positive news from Lively V. Valdoni because the two of them have started court proceedings and Blake Lively had her chauffeur fetch her pricey maong set and bring it to her in court on Wednesday. You guys, one step closer to Taylor playing Maong.

27:19 Not only that, any hopes that like I would have backed off on being team Lively are now in in the garbage.

27:25 Yeah. So, page six here is that she showed up for court around 8:30 a.m. on Wednesday for a day of mediation in her suit against former co-star Justin Baldoni, and the proceeding got underway at 10 a.m. By 11:00 a.m., apparently Blake had grown weary of the wheels of justice turning slowly and called for her diversions. We're told that her driver showed up at the door of the courthouse with a ma jang set. She's previously talked about her ma jang habit. I didn't even know this would have been paying attention in December when she told Vogue, quote, I've been teaching friends how to play ma jang, though I need to say I'm not a certified teacher, but I know enough to teach teach my friends how to play with me, and in the end, I always end up gifting them my own set because they are obsessed and want to practice.

28:06 Apparently, she favors sets from Oh my majang, which runs as high as $500. A basic set cost about $25, and an ultra luxe one like by Bruno Cuchinelli is $15,000.

28:17 Oh, somebody better get that for me. Yeah, just came out with a majong set. A friend of ours was telling us that like for a birthday gift, um her husband got her the Hermes maong set and it's like literally impossible to play with. It's all like it's beautiful like wooden. Um it has no numbers on it. It's all like authentically in Chinese. So unless you speak Chinese, you can't use it.

28:34 Oh wow. Yeah. No, I love a a ma jang set. Okay. Just bust the case wide open. Who does she play with in court though?

28:41 Well, so I imagine like you bring a support system with you. Like we just saw her getting out of the car.

28:44 That's true. Um a lot of people noted that Ryan wasn't there. I think it's better that he wasn't. And I do like think he's a distract a distraction. And right now they're both so unlikable. Like them together in the same room is just like bad for PR. Um and I I think a lot of people are like she's not taking it seriously. Like this is serious. I imagine there's a lot of downtime during these proceedings. Like

29:01 is that what people saying about the ma jang? I imagine like oh you're having your show forfeet your maong. This is a serious court about sexual harassment. Um and it's like yeah but this is also just like a real life thing she has to go through and so yeah maong is an amazing way to pass the time. Yeah.

29:13 Like you should they should have maong rooms in every airport. Honestly sounds fun. Yeah,

29:18 no wonder why she's like not in a rush to end this thing. I just want to say like when all is said and done and this court case is over, whoever like wins, right? Um I do think like Blake Lively should compensate me for my like steadfast belief in her with a gifted maong set. Like if it doesn't show up in my PO box, like I'm going to be upset.

29:37 Yeah, cuz I've taken a lot for her. Well, and she can make it really nice like the flowers from the press tour.

29:42 I don't think she ever wants to remember those flowers. Like I think she's probably triggered by flowers now. like she was trying to be thoughtful with her costumes and she got called like a woman hating.

29:50 I think the bams would maybe be like locks of hair because of her Blake Lively Brown.

29:56 Well, let's talk about the Lukes. So, we got paparazzi pictures of both her and Justin entering the courthouse obviously totally separately, but this is a very high-profile case and unfortunately like what she wears is going to be talked about. I was obsessed with her outfit.

30:09 I know she looked great. She looks stylish, but not flashy. No. And that has been like a big point of discussion.

30:16 Has she dressed any differently than how she normally dresses? It would look like she's faking and like trying to put on a show. So, I think she really nailed it.

30:23 And her hair looked insane. Yeah. Let me see. Turn around. This is like the green suit. Yeah.

30:28 It's very cool. Yeah, it is. And then he was matching her. Now, I know like I'm very being like stereotypical like you know, we're not supposed Yeah. But like for me, these things matter. And so so far like between the outfits, the ma jang like I'm

30:42 she's winning in my book just did like the first week of just been like the super superficial thing.

30:46 Also apparently they went to mediation like to try and see if they could settle it. You know

30:50 they really should. They really should. That's what I've been saying the whole time and they couldn't.

30:54 Do you think that Justin wants medi wants to settle cuz this actually has been good for him. The more things come out like nobody is turning on Blake.

31:02 I actually I could say he is getting he's improving as the case. This is good for him. He doesn't want to settle.

31:10 She I think has so much to prove that if she settles now she settles. She only has gain.

31:16 So I actually think neither of them want to settle. Yeah. Like Justin should just take the W and go.

31:23 But they have to agree to that. Yeah. I know. But you're saying she's the one who's not. Even though wouldn't she want this nightmare to end?

31:27 I think they're both not. Okay. When they both need to be R. And so this is in New York.

31:33 Yes. At the Daniel Patrick Moahan courthouse. Oh, I've been there many times. It's beautiful.

31:38 Have you? Um, I guess I have because I've done jury duty. Are there not multiple courouses?

31:44 Yeah, I've been to 60 street. That's like the one that's where you get your marriage license.

31:48 Pearl Street. Pearl. Yes. Chinatown. Pearl. Pearl. I Earl. I not been to that courthouse.

31:55 Um, so yeah, I actually quite enjoyed like this part of the court. Everything has been so dark and so like

32:02 unfun. Yeah. That this was I'm sorry. Fun. The ma jang. It was very interesting.

32:07 It was. Do you think she taught Taylor how to play before the the Braggus? No, because I'm telling you, if Taylor played Maong, we would know. Did you see the video of Donna Kelsey being TMZed outside the airport?

32:15 No. It was such a funny and lovely conversation. The guy was like, like you're a celebrity now. Like you go on reality shows like as yourself, not just as like someone's mom or whatever. She was like, "No, I'm really not." And then she talked about traitors and it's clear that like she was like they didn't know how to film me. They she kind of was like saying um not in a bad way. She was very smiley the whole time. really lovely being. She said it was just like something that she wanted to do, but like they didn't know what to do with her. That's what she said.

32:40 What did they have to do with her? Like why can't she just I think because she couldn't do the challenges.

32:44 Um and because they spoiler alert like made her that dumb secret traitor, they put her in like a terrible spot. Um so she was like it was fun, but like I could have stayed longer if you have to watch the video. It was weird. And then they were asking her um what she'll dance to with Travis at the wedding. And she was like she was very open. She was like, "I danced with um Jason at his wedding to like a song from the MeeGis, Love Shack or something like that." Um so maybe something like that.

33:07 Mark Anthony, do you think they'll dance? And then the interviewer, who was really lovely, by the way. It was like a very positive paparazzi experience. And Donna was with a friend who was like cracking up at everything Donna was saying. Then the final question was like, you know, did they make you sign an NDA for all the wedding stuff? And Donna was like, "Oh, no. They know I can keep a good secret. Bye. Thanks." Like, it was a great interaction.

33:24 As a secret trader, you secret trader can keep a secret. Not really. If I was Taylor and I saw Donna's time on trade, I would have had that my lawyer like putting the agreement together.

33:35 They're not going to make her sight an NDA. No, no, no. I'm saying like what a a silly question.

33:39 I don't know. Taylor's like very very private. I'm sorry. You No. I mean, that's a a quick way to become like a daughter-in-law that you hate.

33:47 Nicola. Yeah, literally. Are you ready for our next story? It's some exciting TV news. Dancing with the Stars sets a spin-off series to find their next pro and Robert Irwin is eyed to host it.

33:59 Oh. So, Dancing with the Stars is getting the Glee Project treatment, a competition show, Dancing with the Stars, the Next Pro. It will feature up and coming professional dancers who will live in a house together and compete in a grueling audition process. The winner will land a coveted spot as a pro dancer on the next season of Dancing with the Stars.

34:15 This is like very smart. Yeah. And they're saying that Robert Irwin will host it.

34:19 Well, they love to promote from within. like Alfonso was a contestant who's now the host of the show. They love to like create talent which I think is so smart. They're literally like an incubator. Um and there is this like a lot of people watch Dancing with the Stars and then a smaller but you know still big amount of people are obsessed with the pros like the culture who dates who the history. I personally don't give a [ __ ] but there are like a those are the people who like go to the tour. So there's a real built-in audience for it. And yeah the Glee Project

34:45 the Glee Project I think this is a great idea. It takes a lot to be a pro as we saw with what they did to Yan.

34:50 What do you think it's going to be? Hulu. Uh, it is going to be on ABC and Hulu. It says

34:56 I can't Yeah, I can't see this being like on cable. This is on ABC and Hulu. I know. I just can't see it being on cable.

35:02 Why? Like I don't know. To me, reality shows it says to air over the summer. I think it's like summer is a lull.

35:08 Yeah. They just air like weird [ __ ] I just like I think of like just old like to me reality shows that air on cable with commercials are so old school. Like they're not the future. like the Bachelor.

35:17 Yeah. Also, Mark Ballas is being eyed to judge along with his mother, Shirley Ballas, who is um a dancer known as the Queen of Latin.

35:24 Wait, that's so cute. I didn't know that. Yeah. A lot of like personalities to choose from. You know, we actually get to judge even though I don't know him. I just know that he's like nasty.

35:33 Let me think. Like someone who's nasty and dances in in the world of Dancing with the Stars.

35:39 It's not like that. Like Maxim, of course. Yeah. He would be the sign. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They need that, by the way. They need that.

35:46 That's a great call. Bring Maxim. Oh, yeah. And then they have like also like, you know, pros who have sunseted

35:52 who are still really influential and big in like they have a ton of people to choose from when it comes to like all So, this is very smart. It's like making use of um the talent. Although, I did see like cuz I follow a lot of the pros on TikTok, like that's where it goes down. And a lot of them were like hyping up this big announcement, big announcement. I saw people were like a little disappointed that like this is the announcement.

36:10 I think this is a great announcement. What were they hoping for? Like another tour? I don't know. Yeah.

36:15 Like Yeah. But no, I think this is cool. No, I love this. Do they have a name for the show? Is it called The Dance Project?

36:20 It's called Dancing with the Stars, the Next Pro. Okay. I don't love it. It's like a little chewy, but it's fine.

36:26 It is chewy. What about America's Next Top Dancer? Yeah. Love Dancing with the Next Pro.

36:32 Dancing with the Pros. Yeah, that sounds like a reality show about the pros. Would love that, too.

36:38 Yeah. No, this is a good idea. This is a good idea. Um, I'm happy for Mark that he's gonna get more work after Traders

36:44 because if that was like the worst thing he ever did. I don't want to talk about traders yet because it's like a

36:49 Except he see when he shut the door and twirlled after. That's funny. When when I tell you I was watching with half an eye last night.

36:56 I know. And I was shocked that I saw it. I was like, "Wow." Usually I miss stuff like that. We came back from the challenge and he shut the front door and turned like

37:04 that's the most he's I was like, "That's the mark we know." And he talked about dancing at the round table about having a partner that you can trust. I'm like he's like in my sport. I'm like what are you who are you?

37:13 But okay love that relevant work experience. No I agree and then he made a relevant good point and I was like thank you Mark for your for your contribution.

37:22 Let's not talk about trader yet because it is a gateway drug and I don't want to spoil anything but I'm just thinking what other shows or like that like could you give the Glee Project treatment to like finding the next housewife where you put like a bunch of turn women in a house.

37:33 That would be kind of a good idea. Scary. That would be scary. Yeah. Um I love this. Mhm.

37:41 I love it. Toasty lion perhaps. Well, let's see how it goes. Yeah, but for ideas.

37:47 Yeah, it's a great idea. Are you ready for our next story? Whatever. Our fourth story.

37:52 Yeah, we spoke about this at the top of the show, but popular baby care brand Freda Baby is facing backlash over inappropriate marketing marketing campaigns.

38:01 Okay. So, some posts are going viral in the last few days about Freda Baby, some screenshots of their products.

38:06 Just sorry to cut you off. Anybody who doesn't know what Free Baby is, it is a company. It's like a cool millennial company that

38:12 is a premier brand for baby products and for postpartum products for women. They make everything. If you had a baby and you need something from a nail clipper to a bath to a thermometer, big things, little things, they make one of everything. And their [ __ ] is really good.

38:24 Yeah. I don't want to like make this an endorsement for them, but I think what's so shocking about this, it's not just like a baby brand. Whenever they make something, it is the best in category.

38:32 That [ __ ] nail clipper, you guys, like it's insane. I the baby the three in one baby bath the nose sucker

38:37 sucker the undies like the postpartum diapers oh the postpartum kit the the um the squeegee bottle

38:43 peranal paranal bottle like everything so it's like this is like an industry that's kind of archaic like you know the baby nail clipper has been the same since and they make one that's a little bit different and 55 times better like what they've done for mothers can't be understated I just think it's before we drag them

38:57 everything that they make is no that's why it's destabilizing for the mama community it's not like oh I'm just going to boycott this random baby brand it's like these are the best products You can't boycott it like if you need to live.

39:06 Yeah. But let's tell everyone what happened. So, a couple posts and product packaging are resurfacing.

39:12 No. So, what happened was they posted something on Instagram about a rectal thermometer, and that's what set the whole thing off. Now, people are going back at all their packaging. But this Instagram caption really rubbed people the wrong way for good reason. Obviously, it's a rectal thermometer. When you take a baby's temperature, you don't put it in their mouth. You don't put it in their ear. You put the temperature in their tushy for like the most accurate reading. They make a great one. I have it. And the caption that they posted to promote this product was suspicious.

39:36 It says, "This is the closest your husband's going to get to a threesome. Meet the new 3in-1 true thermometer. The Swiss Army knife of temperature taking accuracy." Then, um, here are a few more reasons to love it. We've got options. Rectal Under Armour oral light for the end of the tunnel. Parent proof stopper so you don't stick it in too far. Then along with that, people started finding other posts that had like, you know, inappropriate, not even questionable. We can just say straight up inappropriate um marketing. And then also their product packaging, it's always been like

40:11 quippy and yeah, like supposed to be different, right? Like I said, they're like a new age millennial. This is like an archaic industry. And they were such a disruptor because they made, you know, all the best baby products in pargy packaging and funny captions and they like definitely took it too far. Yeah. And so like here, this is I don't know what this is, like a pacifier or something. It says, "I'm a power sucker." There's another one of a farhead touchless thermometer. It says, "How about a quickie?" And then another one for a um what is it? Oh, this is like a humidifier or something. It says, "I get turned on easily."

40:43 Oh my god. No, it's all disgusting. And there's more and more and more. I can't believe we never noticed something like this.

40:48 I know. And of course, like looking in hindsight, it's like, well, yeah, it's all weird. and it just took this one Instagram caption to get people to talk about it. I think when it comes to like baby products, baby some people are being like it's funny or whatever. I don't think you can really ever take it too seriously like or be too extreme in how careful you are. Um and there's a difference between like being like a funny company. They're like, you know, saying funny things versus being anything even remotely sexual when it comes to kids. Like sorry, no, like I call me I'm woke, you know, like I'm so cancelly with this. like get out of here with that.

41:22 Agreed. Some of the Instagram captions have been archived. They're from 2020 and 2021 one. They reportedly include terms such as threesome and lube. Then people uh identified current team members listed on the company's website. They all had like quotes about like being parents and those were also weird. And now the team page was removed from the site. [ __ ]

41:41 it's giving Balenciaga. The difference is that like this is a company like Balenciaga was weird but it was like a company for adults. Like you're making things for kids. If you find yourself writing a piece of copy that even remotely could be interpreted as like sexual delete. Like what's wrong with people?

41:57 I don't know. And this seems to be like their strategy. I need to now look at everything in my house. Like I cuz I think a lot of them are like do you know

42:06 nail on the head. No, no, no. And like they get it right, you know, about like whatever gas or whatever they make like little jokes

42:11 about farts. Yeah. I don't read the packaging that intently like or think when I'm coming from freedom I'm obviously in a state of distress and I'm like tearing it open to take the temperature like

42:19 but seeing this all like spelled out like this like it's disgusting and I also think that there's probably a difference between like the product team and the marketing team for a company like this like there's people who make great products for babies and then they hire these like

42:32 packaging experts. Yeah. And these experts are disgusting and they need a change of experts. Yeah. And I'm as a mom and I know that they make the best of everything, but like and you literally bought me something Freda yesterday.

42:43 I did and I bought myself something Freda yesterday right before we saw this cuz I wouldn't have bought it

42:48 until there's a change in the company. I'm sorry. This is disgusting. It's disgusting. But I really don't feel like I should have to suffer. Like, do you know that until I found that nail clipper, I was making Ruby bleed every time. So, I'm not going to make Ruby bleed just to take moral high ground. But having said that,

43:02 now that you have your nail clipper Oh, we're good. No, in case I misplace it, like I will be replacing it. And you will misplace it.

43:08 No, but I'm saying Freda, do better for real. And they're also the ones that did the breast milk ice cream and that was weird.

43:16 It was weird. At the time I didn't think it was like they did a collab with like Van Luen or whatever making ice cream or I don't know if it was

43:24 ice cream. They like paid a bunch of influencers see like Yeah, I was mad because they paid a bunch of influencers and they didn't pay me when I was actively breastfeeding. It's like well support mothers. Like half the people that they worked with weren't even moms. like have nothing to do with

43:37 let alone I'm here bleeding out breastfeeding and you can't even pay me. That's why I was upset.

43:42 But when you think about it like why are you what are we eating breast milk eating breast milk? It's weird.

43:46 Yeah. Obviously everything in hindsight now like feels weird. Um because it is weird.

43:53 At the time I think I maybe report about it. I can imagine like oh yeah they're celebrating breast milk. But now like putting it all together paints a different picture. It's very yucky. And

44:03 and there was like a boob on the container. Yeah. It's weird. I just think you can't be ever too sensitive around these things. Like, there's no such thing as being too cautious. You should have so many systems in place that nothing like this can ever happen.

44:16 No, but this seems to be the point. This isn't like, oh, we [ __ ] up. Yeah. We This We didn't see it that way. Sorry. Like, this seems to be the intent.

44:23 Yeah. My pitchfork is out. Like, I'm being I'm being I want I want heads to roll.

44:28 Yeah. No, I need people fired and like I need names. Yeah. Which we never get. Um, but I do need some change in leadership. One thing about like a community to piss off, like you don't want to piss off the mamas.

44:38 No. And not in this way. Like this is the worst thing you could do. Especially given the current climate

44:44 and I feel like people like to act like Balenciaga has bounced back, but I know in my heart that they only within celebrities and like maybe yes over time when all these celebrities are wearing it. Like I saw who oh you know what I literally saw um who was it? It was someone's kid wearing a Balenciaga bag. I'm like yucky. Like a celebrity kid. I can't remember who it was. Um, the celebrities are like back full force and I know there has been like a change in designer but like I don't feel like ever like accountability was really

45:11 there was no accountability and the mamas don't forget. No, the mamas don't forget and so like this is really bad.

45:16 Yeah, I'm really icked out and I'll be looking at my products differently. I know. See you.

45:21 And I'll be thinking, yeah, the ones I already own, I'm not like Yeah, because I I won't suffer.

45:25 I'm not giving them new money. Like me and my family won't suffer. No, but when the time comes to give new money, like I am going to look for another brand on

45:32 I'm going to read the packaging. Oh, for sure. And I'm going to be following this closely to hear any statement from Free to Self. Yeah.

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48:49 Thank you, Ters. You're welcome. Jers, our fifth She's back. Our fifth and final story. Olympian Breezy Johnson gets engaged after boyfriend proposes at the Olympics finish line. So yes, our our bunkers Olympic news of the day. We have an Olympic engagement, which it's not an Olympics if someone doesn't get proposed to at the finish line. No. And there's lots of controversy around this. People being like, he's stealing her moment and people are just insufferable because I feel like like the last Olympics, some girl proposed to her husband and like everybody was up in arms, rightfully so. And now like it's flipped. He's stealing her moment. She has said that if she ever got engaged, she wanted it to be when she won. Yeah.

49:26 And so he's just doing what she asked. Like leave her alone. She said this is what she wanted. And it's also like yeah, she won gold, but she doesn't know if her man's gonna propose. So like you can't just like say do it here. Like you still have to play the game of like is he or isn't he?

49:38 I mean also like no wonder she won gold. Like the potential of getting engaged. That will propel a woman forward.

49:45 I agree. Do you think that you can get engaged if you won silver or bronze? No. I really don't.

49:50 I don't think you should. Yeah. Like you lost. No, you didn't lose. There's also a Taylor Swift element here. She commented because

49:57 she commented with some lyrics from the alchemy because that little proposal he gave her like this little thing that said, "Who are we to fight the alchemy?" Which is all about like being in love while also being an athlete. Um, who are we? Touchdown got the amateurs and we're the winning team. So like it was very um it was very you know

50:15 it was very it was athletic like you know it was very and so she commented like which is just as exciting as getting engaged honestly maybe more.

50:23 Yeah. Taylor's really loving the Olympics. She's just a girl. Yeah. And she still has her peacock subscription from watching her mother.

50:29 What do you mean? She's loving the Olympics. What else? She also made a video for the women for the Olympic team like saying like, "Go get them."

50:35 Okay. Goats. Goats get them. Goat's going to go. She just made like a testimonial. It honestly looked like a cameo of her being like, "Go team USA. You guys have worked so hard." You know, that's so sweet.

50:47 Yeah. And now she's following this closely. I love that. She's literally just a girl and like she doesn't go to work every day. I'm sure she I'm sorry she works every day, but she doesn't go to a 9 to5. So I imagine she does have like big chunks in her day to fill with time while she's like off tour. So

51:02 imagine the Olympics is like you know the ven diagram of Taylor and Travis. It's like the Olympics is in the middle of things we can watch together in addition to Love is Blind which by the way is like coming back. We have to watch.

51:12 Okay. I find Love is Blind it's it's literally a factory now. Do you know what I mean? I could not name one person besides Sparkle Megan from the last season. Like

51:19 Okay. But I just want you to know sparkle Megan has given me more like than anything has given in a while.

51:25 I find love is like a factory and like I'm so over it. But sometimes I'll start the season with everyone and like of course it turns out to be a season that no one's watching and like I'm recapping it and nobody cares. Then sometimes I'm like you know what I'm not doing it and it's like the banger season. So I'm just going to see. I don't see really anyone talking about it.

51:43 Can I say something that's going to lead into our next subject which is traders? Mhm. I feel that way about Traitors. If we weren't watching it, like we would be have everyone's talking about you have to watch Traers. It's amazing. And I'm watching it last night and I really and I'm not not enjoying myself, but objectively it's not very good.

52:03 So, I agree with you today and I think that last night was the first time I felt that way. Now, spoilers will be

52:08 I'm enjoying watching it. I'm excited to recap it, but I was also watching it with Zach, who's only watched a couple episodes with me, so I was sort of like sensitive to how he might be feeling about the show, and I'm like a little embarrassed because it's very stupid and and not good.

52:20 Well, I have only felt that way starting last night. Up until last night, every episode I watched, I'm on the edge of my seat, me and Ben talking about how this is the best show ever made. Like, Michelangelo could never. And last night, Ben and I were watching like literally half on our phones. It was such a bad episode, especially when they opened the episode. And I was just saying yesterday how quite literally Darind is the only person on the show I'm like even remotely familiar with and I guess I'm rooting for

52:40 No. And I still last week we were toggling between rooting for Direinda or Steven.

52:45 No. No. And literally the two remaining people on the show who I was remotely familiar with and like kind of liked are gone. We are left and it's exactly what you said when we first started recapping the show is that it seems like anyone who stands out, who has a personality, who goes for things is punished for that. That's exactly what happened. We are left with the six most unremarkable people. Sorry.

53:06 And the herd and the people who aren't really thinking critically, who are no threat to the traitors because they're so off the mark.

53:13 No. And now people are like, "Well, Kristen figured it out. There's no one left. There's like six people left and apparently they don't even know how many traders technically there are." So like her looking at Eric, it's like, "Well, it only took you 11 rounds."

53:25 You have to There's six people left. We all have to look at each other. and you're actually not looking at the one mastermind, the one.

53:32 It's really insane um what Rob has done. Like I know people are saying he's a villain whatever.

53:37 It is remarkable the game he has played. Alan Cummings was on Watch Live and somebody asked like who's the best trader? He said Rob is the best player I've ever seen in the in the entire game.

53:45 I will now that I am like moved on from the last two episodes with Ren and Candace and like I'm back to the game and just like watching the game um and my feelings are no longer involved. Yes, I can agree that Rob is a great trader. I think the game is flawed in a number of ways. One, it rewards the least interesting, most boring, um, worst game players because they stick around because they are bad.

54:07 Um, and there needs to be a way for traders to not turn on traders because then you can be you can turn on your trader immediately. You get a trader.

54:17 That's an easy way to win. It's an easy. He cracked the code. I don't think anybody's ever done that before. He definitely cracked some sort of code.

54:22 There needs to be an incentive for the traders to win together. They ha they should have to look out for one another because Yeah. It It was like he just threw them under the bus.

54:33 Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Yeah. I don't even know what to recap except was anyone else so confused by that challenge? Like I was not following it at all.

54:39 Yeah. Some of the challenges are so confusing. Actually, a lot of them are. And when they explain the rules, I feel like you when someone explains a game to you, you're just like, "Okay."

54:46 Yeah. They're not really for me. But you got less um less physical challenges. Yes. Yes. Oh man, that box is giving me pit. Like I could never

54:54 Yeah. It's funny. Tara and Johnny's friendship was really put through the ringer this episode.

54:58 Not only that, um when they like said their big reveal. Like first of all, you could hear a pin drop. Nobody cared. The fact that they kept it the secret this entire time was so like lame. Maybe it would have been a good idea um if things had panned out differently. But them sharing that to an audience of three people quite literally who were not shocked and didn't care.

55:15 No. And just said, "Oh, so you're liars." Okay. Yes. Rob was right. Like them saying it now to what benefit? I'm not sure. Except now that everyone knows that you're capable of keeping a big secret.

55:26 Well, and they were able to save themselves for one more day. I do think Rob should save both of them because it looks like they both might be traitors. Like if so, if one of them gets out, it's like, well, Tara's fine because Johnny was not like

55:36 Yeah. So, they should work hard to keep them both. Who do you think that they killed at the end?

55:40 Who did they have to choose between? They had Kristen. Oh, I think Natalie. I think they find

55:44 Rob should um have Kristen go because Kristen said, "If I get sent home, it was Eric."

55:51 Yeah. So he's just like his game plan has been working which is throwing his under the bus.

55:54 He did let Eric know that. Oh, this was just the first time. Yeah, I know. So he's not going to let

55:59 Right. So he's not doing the Candace. This was the first time though that I feel like something kind of Nobody noticed it, of course, but maybe they'll look back. The Rob thing with the double dagger Natalie being like, you have to tell everyone. It was kind of a bad look for him. Like I don't really understand why he kept it. Um and then being like forced to tell it from Natalie under distress. Like it's giving liar. But also, why did Natalie need him today?

56:23 I don't know. I don't know. Maybe if they send home Natalie, they would look back at that, but they just think Natalie is a stronger player than she is and that she'll figure it out, which she won't. But I guess out of the people who are still there, she's the biggest threat because she's the smartest,

56:38 I guess. So, who's up for killing? Um, Natalie Kristen Tara Johnny. Natalie Kristen Taraji. Yeah,

56:45 they're not going to kill Tara Johnny. They shouldn't. And that would be dumb. And I don't care about the others. If he wants to throw Eric under the bus, sure. Get rid of Kristen.

56:51 But I don't think I like He already told Eric that, so they're not going to do it. I think they're going to kill Natalie.

56:56 But there's so much suspicion on Natalie. That's the other thing. Like it's a good distraction. There's no suspicion on Kristen.

57:03 No, but she said then it leads everyone to Eric. So that's a good another distraction. Kristen like let people keep splitting the vote over Natalie, Johnny, and Tara.

57:11 No, Natalie has pretty much gotten out of like out from under the suspicion. like she was in the hot seat for a little bit with the the antidote, but people seem to believe that she's not a traitor.

57:21 I loved Steven's speech being like, "You blew it." Like you blew it. He literally told everyone, "I'm a [ __ ] faithful." It was such bad um evidence, too. And the How does nobody to this day know how to spell his name?

57:31 I understood like in the beginning they were spelling Porsche's name wrong, but they spend everyone's name wrong.

57:37 But why what when would they ever learn the spelling? I don't know. Is somebody going to tell them?

57:42 No. I think that's like part of the game. It is funny. There should be an award like an extra bon b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b bonus money at the end if there was a contestant who spelled everyone's name right.

57:51 Yeah, I love Stephen. I think the show has been so good for him. I don't know what he's doing in his personal life right now, but I hope him and Kristen get back together.

57:58 And the thing is like he is that guy. He's been that guy since high school. He was such a

58:03 He's even better than that. The show was so good for him. He was the only one who stood up for Ron. He played like an honorable game. He never threw anybody under the bus. He was always letting the girls get the shields and the girls go up the hill first. Like this was a great I'm sure he doesn't have a hard time like catching tail, but like spread him.

58:19 Yeah, he's such a cutie and he's so he's aging so beautifully. Yeah, he is. Handsome handsome boy.

58:24 Um no, they're all just like looking at each other and they don't like feel, you know, they feel like, oh, I don't feel like it's Johnny. I don't feel like it's her. I don't feel like it's Steven or whatever.

58:32 No one has said the name Rob. Look at someone else. What we're doing isn't working.

58:37 And why doesn't anyone look at Mark? We're Mora. Oh, and Mora is like such a stereotype. Like she's so blinded by love. Like they're all like nobody's thinking of Rob. It's definitely like a male privilege thing. Like he's playing it really well, but also like he's a tough guy. He's going to protect us. Mora's just like, "Okay, Rob." Like she's in love with him.

58:56 Yeah. But she she's also like he's also the only person she knew going into it. So that's like Taran Johnny would be like if one of them were a traitor.

59:04 And I wonder if one of them had been a traitor what they would have done. Mhm. That would have been interesting. They probably would have like had a mental breakdown like trying to keep it from their best friend.

59:14 Yeah. But why doesn't anyone look at Mark? Like why do they just assume Mark is a faithful?

59:19 And can I ask people who watch the previous seasons? Is it always this like I feel like the climax is really in the beginning like finding out who the traitor and with each episode it gets less and less climactic. Is that just this season in particular or is that just a thing with the show? And also, unless you are the traitor who wins, it's actually kind of embarrassing to win to go all the way to

59:40 so stupid. Even people who are smart, it's just a hard thing to figure out. No, it just means that like nobody found you threatening

59:46 or interesting enough to eliminate earlier on. Yeah, because if we have if we get the faithfuls winning and it's like Mark, sorry, among them, Mark,

59:55 Mark, Kristen, Mora, and Natalie. Okay. But I'm thinking of last year because I remember when they were on Watch and Side like it was Direinda, Zack Efron, and Gabby Wendy. Like,

1:00:06 no, it wasn't. Dire got out night one. Oh. Oh, sorry. Not Dinda. Dolores. Sorry.

1:00:12 No, I don't think it was Dolores. I think was a traitor. It was Gabby Wendy. Dylan Efron. Dylan, Lord Mountbattton.

1:00:23 Yeah, it was. You're right. And a fourth. I remember when we found out that four people won traitors, we were like, what kind of [ __ ] show? Thank God. If we had to wait three more extra weeks.

1:00:32 Yeah, I know. In her. Okay, let me see if it was Dolores. Maybe not. I just remember her being on watch live

1:00:39 because she was on Oh, no. She won. She won. Okay. Okay, good for her. But they were all faithfuls.

1:00:44 The last meaning traitor was Britney Haynes. They were all faithfuls. All faithful victory. Okay, I won't spoil any further seasons just in case I decide to watch. Um, let's also talk about The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which was also kind of a dud of an episode. But the dichotomy of both dinners like was cracking me up. Like, um, that turn dinner and Erica finding out like in real time that she wasn't invited to the Hamptons and they're like having this they're

1:01:03 Why did Rachel only invite Kyle and Dar? Because they needed a night out and she's trying to like get them back together.

1:01:08 I guess I wanted it to be a big group trip. No, even if it wasn't, I understand her inviting Dar, but like I don't really She doesn't like Kyle. Like I don't know why she invited her. Um, it looks like they're having the best time. Like just Donna Karen. It was so everything. And cutting to this like extremely weird dinner um when they're all like manifesting in journals and I didn't even know that other girl there. Like it was so weird.

1:01:29 It was I want to say about that dinner. Maybe I didn't watch as closely as I needed to. But I'm not really with Sutton. I kind of am feeling for Amanda in this one situation of like she didn't really bring up this like Kyle drove that conversation with her about D saying too much. Then she went to Cathy's house and recounted that conversation and said

1:01:51 she didn't recount it. She regurgitated it as her own thought and that's why Sutton told Dar.

1:01:55 She never said I She didn't say that's what Kyle said. She said, "Don't you guys feel like this is bad for her marriage?" And S's like, "Who the [ __ ] are you? I'm actually so team Sutton."

1:02:03 Okay. I just feel like when Amanda said like, "You're teaching me how to clean up this mess that you made." I'm like, "Yeah, it shows the show a little bit, but it just made me feel like, oh, this is a little stupid." like I'm going to tell someone what you said and I'm going to also tell you how to fix it. And it's like what if you just never told them what I said because I just like was sharing an innocent thought with you

1:02:22 in the real world. Yes. But in Housewives world I know but in housewives world we need something a little more thick than that.

1:02:28 Yeah. I can't stand Amanda. Like I just hate and I'm not saying that I love her or anything but in that moment I'm like this is like pretty stupid what we're talking about and that she's going to be taken to task and that she nobody can move on unless she like cops to it. Like cops to saying something that everybody else has said. And as a viewer, like I am feeling a little bit. It's a little like and I love Dar so much, but I'm worried just like Kyle said, like I'm worried that she's saying too much. This isn't good to say on national television when you're in the middle of like active tense negotiations.

1:02:58 I think they really want you to like suspend disbelief and just like imagine this is like a normal group of friends and this random new girl who's like rubbing people the a bad way, saying it as like her own thought. Like yeah, she can go back and forth with Kyle. Kyle has earned a right to comment. This random girl who she's actually at that point had met twice has no right to make any sort of commentary whether she thinks she's being helpful or not. I just also can't [ __ ] stand her.

1:03:21 No, I know. Um, also let's talk about the Mauricio dinner, which was really weird. Like any hopes for them two having an affair is out the window.

1:03:29 I don't know. Um, it's just like frustrating when someone's saying A and someone's saying B. Like which one is it?

1:03:33 Yeah. Like was their term sent or not? Did you get a Google spreadsheet? The sort of friend that Mauricio is to PK is the sort of friend that Kyle is supposed to be being towards Dar.

1:03:42 Kyle in her confessionals is so nasty about like I she acts like a She doesn't act great in front of Dar, but her confessionals are so nasty. Like so quippy for no reason. Yeah.

1:03:54 Um cuz it's like she's holding her tongue in front of Dar because she's been told that that's what she should do that she shouldn't express.

1:04:00 God forbid she be supportive. She can't be supportive. So she has to be quiet because in her heart she's not supportive. And I don't I don't care what Mauricio says, what PK says, what Kyle says is true. Like, I just know what's going on and that it's Dar is holding everything together and PK is out globe trotting and then comes home and says at 3:00 a.m. I want to see the kids. And she's like, "You can't see the kids." And then he says, "She won't let me see my kids." And it's like, "They're sleeping."

1:04:20 No, I know that Kyle and Mauricio are like claim they have proof that negates everything she says. But I believe Dar.

1:04:26 No, I I just know she's home with the kids. She has the stories about her dad. Like she's the one who says, "I've noticed a change in Jagger." Like, I'm sorry. I just believe Dar. No, she's the one like keeping them on their schedule.

1:04:36 And the fact that Kyle, who's also going through a divorce of her own, and just as like a woman who's been around other women who have gone through divorces, the fact that her first instinct isn't to defend Dar sometimes like maybe she her first instinct would be to believe and then she starts hearing things and maybe she starts ying. No, from the get-go last season, she just does not believe Darede.

1:04:51 Yeah, I've seen people speculate that like, you know, this is sort of keeping her and Moight

1:04:56 tight and like her being on his side might might help purify favor in his eyes. Also, I think even at the Hampton's thing when they're like, "We're all divorced." And she's like, "I'm separated." Like,

1:05:06 she refuses. I think she's just still holding on and she doesn't want to be in this like basket of divorce scorned women with Dar and so she's like, "No, I'm over here. Everything's copathetic. Dar, you're wrong."

1:05:18 No. So true. Loving Rachel's like can't say I have to say that every recap. Loving.

1:05:23 Whose house was that in the Hamptons? Not hers. I thought it was hers. Um, just interesting. Like even her packing like I just everything about her is fascinating. No, just like watching her. She's like just her hair

1:05:34 is so shiny. Her and her sister look exactly alike. Oh, I didn't see her sister. That was her sister.

1:05:39 Yeah, they're at the friend's house and then the sister was there waiting for them. The blonde one.

1:05:42 God, I must have missed the Pamela. Or maybe that was the friend. I must have looked down.

1:05:46 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a boring episode. Erica's commentary was cracking me up.

1:05:50 And I just I can't keep like going over this point about the Amanda and who said it. And like just drop it and move on and let's find something new to argue about.

1:05:58 Agreed. We'll find something quickly because it's just not that like it's not that it's not big enough to be multiple episodes.

1:06:04 The trailer that we got was for the remainder of season and Erica fighting. Dar everyone and I feel like that's going to make Kyle feel like so vindicated, but like Kyle's so wrong.

1:06:14 Well, Dar like is in a bad sp like she has so much going on that she can't help but make every conversation about herself. She can't help but relate everything back to herself cuz like that's what's going on. Like how can she be any other way? I imagine it's exhausting as her friend at a certain point, but like that's what is she going to show up and pretend like she didn't just have the worst [ __ ] day.

1:06:31 The walking away with the cigarette in the corset. Oh, the Italy trip looks good. They look a good trip.

1:06:36 I feel like Rachel and Bose will continue to have Dar back, but I did not like what appeared to be Dar and Erica fighting.

1:06:41 Well, that's sort of been like an undercurrent is that Erica is a real moral compass. Like, she's not super involved anymore, but she gives it to everyone straight. Um, and she like refuses to hold Kyle accountable in the lease, but she's so excited to do it for everyone else. It's like annoying. If you're going to be like an impartial moral compass, you got to come for everyone. And she doesn't.

1:06:59 Yeah. Um, let's do Queenie of the Weenie to wrap up the week. Okay. Queenie and weenie is our final segment of the week where Jackie and I give out two awards. Queenie of the week and weenie of the week. Don't take it personally. If you acted like a queen of this week, you might be queen of the week. And if you act like weie of the week, you might be a weenie this week. It's not a big deal. 7-day title. You could be queenie one week and weenie the next. You know how it goes. What do you want to do first?

1:07:14 Queenie. We always start with the positive. Okay. My queenie is Utah. Uh, my queenie is also Utah. I wrote Genta, but I meant Utah. Agreed.

1:07:24 Genta is how you spell it. Judah. No, I wrote Ju Na. So, in case you're looking at mine thinking like I copied you. No, I

1:07:30 Genta means Utah. Yes, exactly. Um, Utah one gold. She can finally, you know, celebrate that. Move,

1:07:39 get married, be with Jake, get married, have babies. Like, I'm so so happy for her. All her hard work that we watched on Paul American.

1:07:46 Very full circle for us, too. Very full circle for the viewers. Like it was just amazing.

1:07:50 Happy for the Dutch then the Neanderthalss. Yes, me as well. My weenie of the week is Olympics coded as well. And it brings me to a story I've been dying to tell you.

1:07:58 Oh, okay. Why didn't you add it to our bonkers Olympic news segment? Because I had already had it for my weenie.

1:08:03 Oh, were you nervous every time I brought up the Olympics? No, I know you have no idea what I'm about to say. Um because my weenie of the week is a French woman named Jezebel Dubois. Do you know her?

1:08:11 No, but I love for that name. So, I'm sure you know um Chuck and Bates, the figure skating duo, man and woman, like like really the leading figure skaters for America. They're a married couple there. She is gorgeous. He is super cute. They're like kind of the it couple this year. And it was just a matter of time before they won. And a couple of nights ago, it was their final dance. Um and they came in second to a clearly subpar couple from France. Now, okay, people, you know, it's sports. Very sad. Some people win, some people lose, but there is like a bit of a scandal going on thanks to a woman named Jezebel Dubois. Now, how it works in figure skating is there's a delegation from each country that gives a score for each competitor. So, I think there was like eight countries competing, US, France, Italy, all of them. And each of the judges was from each country. Now it should be I now have a problem with the scoring

1:09:05 because from your country you shouldn't be able to vote whatever but Jezeabel Dubois of France gave the Americans such a low score eight points lower than um the French couple and much lower than all the other judges. Like for the most part, all the other judges like a couple of points, max four.

1:09:30 Theirs was eight points lower because she cheated. Like it's first of all, it's such a flawed system. I didn't even realize that's how people were voting. Like you shouldn't be able to give a score to your own delegation. She gave them eight points higher. It's like everyone has a vested interest. So people are going to be shady. They came in second when they clear like the other the French team like was [ __ ] up. Like they were not the winner at all. Then there's also drama with the man. and he's like had some like allegations like just bad Jezebel Dubla like if the Olympics don't have integrity nobody does like it's supposed to

1:10:02 I didn't realize they were so subjective and I realized that they were to some degree subjective like for the judging of like

1:10:08 skating and gymnastics but it's more it is it's not like they scored a point right

1:10:12 um but that they could be like so willy-nilly Jezebel Dubois say her name I would love to say that name Jezebel Dubois what a name

1:10:21 of course her name is Jezebel what a Dubois acting like true to her namesake like Alison Dubois.

1:10:26 Of course, your figure skater will never emotionally fulfill you. Jezebel Dubois.

1:10:31 Who's your weenie? My weenie I I I'm remissed to name them weenie. I fear they might like it too much is Freda baby.

1:10:38 Yeah, Freda baby is the weenie of the week. That's beautiful. That's our show you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the toast of Atlanta morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. If you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us video a thumbs up. available as podcast and podcast radio and podcast signing and wickedly talented we are programming reminder there is no show Monday we are off for president's day so hope everybody enjoys a long weekend if you have it off and we will see you on Tuesday love

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Another Year in the Garbage Can: Friday, February 13th, 2026"?

Jackson Claude (Host), Jaclyn Folet (Guest), Dana Holsburg (Guest), Michaela Linaro (Guest), Joey Kamasta (Guest).

What is "Another Year in the Garbage Can: Friday, February 13th, 2026" about?

The conversation centers on the hosts celebrating emotional milestones, including a birthday and an annual community event known as "Colgate Day." The hosts discuss personal connections, traditions, and the nuances of name changes among married friends, highlighting the blend of personal and cultural celebrations.

What is mentioned in this The Toast episode?

16 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Jaclyn Folet, Freda Baby, Michaela Linaro, Michaela Nggerro, Cody Hawin, American Apparel. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Another Year in the Garbage Can: Friday, February 13th, 2026"?

The episode runs 1 h 11 min; the transcript is about 16,881 words in 391 timestamped sections.

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