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Cardboard Coji: Friday, January 23rd, 2026

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Cardboard Coji: Friday, January 23rd, 2026", an episode of The Toast published January 23, 2026 (1 h 6 min, about 14,666 words). It mentions 8 people, works and ideas, including Ryan Reynolds, Hayden Panettiere, Tell Me Lies, Lover Boy.

What this episode is about

The discussion centers on a light-hearted Friday morning chat about hairstyles, particularly featuring cuts from renowned stylist Chris Appleton, with humorous commentary on the perceived expense of booking such high-profile services. The hosts reflect on the week's events, acknowledging a shorter workweek due to Martin Luther King Jr. Day, and share their personal experiences and excitement surrounding hair transformations.

Key takeaways

  • It's Friday, but a short week prompts existential dread about undeserved time off—are we workers or just participants in a capitalist game?
  • Paying $100K for a haircut? That's not a luxury; it's a cleverly disguised self-esteem project with questionable ROI.
  • Billionaires: more than just fat wallets, they're proof that money can buy happiness—or at least better haircuts.
  • Netflix turned binge-watching into an Olympic sport, but their decision to go weekly has us all grappling with withdrawal symptoms.
  • Is financial happiness capped at $200 million? Maybe, but isn't true wealth just surrounding yourself with well-adjusted billionaires?

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 20:00: Baked by Melissa, Squarespace, Quit with Jones
  2. – 30:00: Ryan Reynolds
  3. – 50:00: Hayden Panettiere
  4. – 1:00:00: Lover Boy
  5. – 1:05:52: Tell Me Lies

Notable quotes from "Cardboard Coji: Friday, January 23rd, 2026"

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  • I could literally write you 84 more paragraphs eulogizing what this all means to me, but mainly I'm just incredibly proud and inspired by you and be so like just in their writing styles.
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  • Treatment. She's revealed the cover of her new memoir. Not called Memoirs of a Hayden. It is called This Is Me Reckoning.
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  • Our next story, Scarlett Johansson, Kate Blanchett, and Joseph Gordon Levit are among 700 industry backers of a new anti- AI campaign.
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  • He said, I've seen a bunch of videos pop up talking about divorce and the financial implications. I don't think a lot of people really understand the intricacies of my business…
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  • Criminal of the week. Like seriously, jail for you week. But he was my weenie of the week. Like seriously, I [ __ ] hate Steven. It's actually crazy when a show makes you feel…
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Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Ryan Reynolds — Person · Referenced celebrity (controversy subject) · 4 mentions · first at
    Second 'Fast Five' story: hosts discuss an allegedly leaked/cringey email he sent to Colleen Hoover in the context of the 'It Ends With Us' dispute and public perception.
  • Hayden Panettiere — Person · Referenced celebrity (memoir subject) · 1 mention · first at
    Third 'Fast Five' story: hosts discuss her upcoming memoir ('This Is Me: Reckoning'), her career, and personal struggles, predicting it will be a strong celebrity memoir.

Products & tech

  • Lover Boy — Product · Referenced product · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in the context of financial implications in a divorce

Media & podcasts

  • Tell Me Lies — Media · Referenced media · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a show that evokes strong emotional reactions from the hosts

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    Promoted as a science-backed option to quit vaping, with a personal endorsement from the host
  • Joseph Gordon Levitt — Person · Referenced celebrity (campaign backer) · 2 mentions
    Named as another signatory of the anti-AI campaign; hosts comment on his relative fame placement in the headline list.

Full transcript with timestamps

Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. Yeah, that's right. It's the end of the week. does feel a little bit undeserved because it was a short week thanks to Martin Luther King and the wonderful work that he did. So, I'm just taking it for what it is. I just want to acknowledge I didn't work that hard for this Friday.

Oh, I feel like it feels deserved. 4 days is still a lot of days. I mean, you're telling me. Should we talk about your [ __ ] strands?

Oh, yeah. These are Chris Appleton. Now, I can finally wear my hair like this, which is one of my favorite hairstyles, especially on a Friday. As you know, my hairstyles do correlate to the day of the week. Um, and now I'm back with my strands.

Okay. Disan, I'm Stanberries. Totally. We're both like rocking our new Chris Appleton haircuts. I heard somewhere. And please, again, I just hear things in comment sections. So, always take what I say with a grain of salt.

When she says, "I heard somewhere, I learned somewhere. I just found out it's from like a comment section."

Apparently, if you wanted to book Chris Appleton like for a haircut, it's $100,000. Like, cuz not anyone could just do it. So, if you just if you want Chris to like come to you like randomly, yeah, it's 100 grand. Or you can start a podcast, work really hard for it at eight years, slay with your sister every single day. Never give up. Never back down. Never give up on your dreams. He will come through on his book tour as a press stop to this podcast you've been working so hard on. And you can ask him to cut your hair as a bit

for free. Or you could start a GoFundMe like or you could pay $100,000. Yeah. I don't know.

Both are a tall task. I just want to say I didn't even style my hair this morning. This is still Chris's blowout. I didn't have any time to like put any heat on it. Um, it's looking amazing and it does feel like a $100,000 haircut.

Yeah, you look like a $100,000. Thanks. Which like in this day and age, Yeah. It's not even a mill like it's not a compliment. Like a billion

billion bucks. I just feel like I won't truly be happy till I have a billion dollars.

I've heard that like the best amount of money amount of money. Like where have you heard this? comment section.

Probably probably or like something like to be super wealthy but not like you know and more money. The sweet spot is 200 million. That's what I've heard.

I don't know. I just don't think I would be happy. Like I really don't. I feel like I would because you know me I always worry about money and it's like no I think like 200 I would still be worrying.

Yeah. Okay. I'm just telling you that's what I've heard because and then I feel like when you have 200 million you start to run in like really fancy circles of people who have like 500 or a billion and then you just feel poor

less than. Yeah. And I don't want to feel poor. Yeah. But I feel like once you get into the billions like it's definitely toxic and so you know I've heard that 200 is a really good amount to have.

I believe that 200 is a good amount but I just want to say like I happen to know just a few billionaires.

Okay. And they're wonderful people. But maybe that's just more so like a reflection on me. Like I attract really positive billionaires,

not the negative toxic ones. Even though I think that like billionaires is just a term now for like very very wealthy. And like probably a lot of the very wealthy people that I think are billionaires are just like multi multi multi

or 200 millionaires and they're very happy with their 200. They're good people. You know, they're just people you guys. Us billionaires, we're just people.

We're just like you except like happier. We have an amazing show. It's Friday, so I just feel like the energy is going to be extremely positive. The Traders Recap, which now Traders is releasing episodes on a one a week basis, which I do feel like I didn't know that. I do feel like I can maybe start doing Friday recaps if you're open to that. But for now, it's I haven't watched all

We'll have to sync up on Thursday. Last night, I was finishing my homework for the Redheads. I finished the book. We're recording today, so that was my homework last night. Um, but I'm excited to watch Traitors. One episode is is tough, though, because once I get into it, like I need more. I mean 100% like whoever Netflix ruined TV by like giving us the entire season at once. It we all became so accustomed to this way of like binging shows and now they reverted back to like they'll drop like five episodes of a new season and then one a week, one a week and now everybody copies what Netflix does. So Netflix just sort of ruined my life with that. Um and now watching Yeah. one Traitor episode a week, it's just not going to work.

Yeah. I I feel both ways about it. Like yes, they ruined us and now they're like, you know, subjecting us to withdrawals. On the other hand, like the term binge is never going to be a healthy thing to do in any sense.

Yeah. But they started it and like when the whole season comes out, it's like you can't check Twitter at any point in the season until you finish it because like there's spoilers everywhere. So I do kind of like like watching with the people. I'm a woman of the people.

So am I. But I just feel like my habits as a consumer changed because of Netflix. And now when things are getting released weekly, The Pit, like I'm in hell.

But as like a working mother now, if something was released all at once, I would not have the bandwidth to just like sit and binge it. The last time I did that was Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and that was cuz I just had a baby. Like, it would be too much pressure. So, you know what? The timing works for me in my life if we go back to one episode a week. Even though I like a little bit more, I'll be okay.

Yeah, they keep they leave you wanting more. That's the point. We also have Queenie and Weenie today and we have stories. And would you be able to describe those stories for me in perhaps three words?

I could I could describe it in one word. Okay. Ours. Oh, stories are ours. So, here's three words. It's giving ours.

It's giving ours. Um, the stories are what you make them. Yeah. And it's more so like rounding out the week, putting a button on certain conversations.

This really was a crazy week with like a lot of crazy developing stories. I honestly could not take on another new story.

It's true. between the Beckhams, the Belon, and the Blakes. We're juggling a lot of stories right now, and we're going to set our balls down by the end of the day today. That's the goal for today's episode. That's the intention I'm setting.

Okay. So, you're kind of being intentional. I'm being intentional in my authenticity, for sure.

I don't feel like that's new for you. I think you are constantly showing up here with an intention to be authentic.

I think that's true. It would be so much energy to be anything but. I think we're all authentic. I think we are all authentic.

Yeah. On this stage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's ever really been in question.

No. We get accused of a lot of things, but being inauthentic is certainly not one of them.

No. It it it wouldn't work for us. We do too much condom. We wouldn't be able to like keep our the Oh, yeah. For an hour a day.

We also play maong yesterday. We did play maang and we went to this like busy card room and everybody was stopping us being like, are those the Oh my majong tiles? It's like, is that the Chanel jacket? Yeah, the Chanel boots. Yeah.

Yeah. Everyone loved our matte and tiles. They're from Oh my maong. They're so pgy.

Um and it was just really fabulous. Neither of us got ma jang and we were like 50% of the table. And so like the fact that neither one of us ended up winning um was like a poor reflection on our family, I think.

I guess so. But like this was my third time playing. Yeah. I'm still learning how to be good, you know, and I'm just I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to be a part of it.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's more a poor reflection on me. I just sat there the whole time talking about like how I've been playing since high school. I a meanwhile I didn't get my one back.

Maybe like shut up. I just learned. Stop telling I just learned yesterday. Yeah, I'm pretty good for someone who just learned.

Wow, she's really good. I She just learned. Can you believe that? Oh, also major update in my life. Like we're officially a play pen household, you know? I meant to send you a picture this morning cuz it arrived. Of course, I had to get like a collapsible one because I'm not about to like like sacrifice your living room.

Uh it's just not going to work. But like in the recent week or two, we've started to move a lot.

Moving. Moving and grooving. Grooving is grooving and moving. Grooving with Ring.

And so we would like put up pillows all over the room so we didn't like roll into a table or anything. And I was like, I think it's time for these walls. Um, so I got on Amazon like this collapsible thing that I can like take with me when we go back to New York. And it's parchy.

Are you going to build it up and break it down every day? Of course. That's why I didn't get like the one. There's like $300 ones that like you set up and you leave.

It's like a playroom. Yeah. This one's like a big ass pack and play that you just like, you know, you pull it up and then it goes in some closet cuz Yeah. Like I may not be home, but I still like I still care about like clutter, things of that nature.

What? I always just think of that clip of that show. What's that show? I always clip.

No idea. The guy Extreme Jeep Skates. No, but the guy Excuse me. who lives in like an apartment and he won't buy anything.

What do you mean I buy so much? And he sits on a cardboard box on the floor that he me

repurposes as his table. It's like this one piece of cardboard. And what about this cardboard man reminds you of me?

It's just you. Like you're like a swirlier version of that, but like Oh my god. I've sent you the clip before. You were very offended.

I'm I don't even remember. So, I'm getting reaffended all over again. I have to find it.

No, I don't think that you do. And what about me getting a collapsible pack and play play pen item for my son makes me an extreme cheapkate who lives with one cardboard box?

Well, the thing it was even with this guy just like you, it's not like just about money. Like you did mention $300, so it was a little bit about money. It's just about like the having of things and like things in the room. So he just like pushes this cardboard one room to the next.

I'm deeply deeply offended. Yes, I'm deeply deeply offended. Um and I don't relate to this cheapkate. I don't know his name. I don't know him at all. I resent the accusations. I'm an extremely generous person. Here, look.

Oh, what is she going to show us? Is that a new bag? It's a new bag, a new wallet. Um, and yeah, where I keep all my money cuz I'm not

a cheap skate. Oh, is that what? Oh, here. $100. Would a cheap person do that? Even though I just gave you $100 like for calling me a nasty name. Take it back and give me, you know, give me that money back, [ __ ]

What am I doing rewarding this wench? No. Here, Jess. But yeah, see, just to prove I'm not cheap.

I understand. But I'm not giving it to the girl who just called me cardboard box homeless man. No, he has a home. He has a home. He has an apartment. Like he just likes his box. He doesn't want to buy furniture.

I just like I I just can't [ __ ] stand you. Okay. It was at the having of things.

Yeah. So, I care about clutter. Like obviously you choose to live in a pigsty. That's fine. Different strokes. Of course. I would never make fun of you or compare you to anyone so derogatorily. Um just different strokes, you know. You guys know. And so yes, I got a play pen. That was my major life update. Just kind of huge things happening at my house.

Well, I'm excited for you. I'm excited for Rayuven to be Grey Uven. Yeah, he is Grey Uven and May Uven. Me and Ben like figured out Ruby's bar mitzvah theme like a year, not a year ago cuz he's not even a year, but like three months ago, we've not been able to like stop planning it. Like I cannot wait for the affair. Obviously, it's going to be disco themed and like the merch and everything. It's going to say Grooven with Ruven cuz that Ruby's like Hebrew name is Ruven. His full name is Ruben. So Grooven with Reuben or if you're like from the old country, Gruven with Ruven. I'll be gay with Rayuven.

And I'm looking forward to seeing you shaking that thing with dance. It's gonna be very Studio 54 Beckham.

Yes, exactly. I can't wait to see you inappropriate dance. I can't wait. That is going to be a time.

That was bar mitzvah season as a parent. Uh-huh. Yeah. Cuz we thought like we were crazy when we were 12 like in the photo booth and no.

No. And I didn't even feel like we were crazy. Like we were having fun, but it it did feel like elicit. It was like a party. A bar mitzvah is like kind of an interesting time. I mean, it is the cusp of manhood and womanhood, but like as a 12 and 13year-old, you can't really like appreciate the party for what it is. Like,

no, sweet 16s are much more like age appropriate in terms of being able to appreciate the affair.

No, like people like might have like been like smuggling in like wine coolers to a sweet 16. That really wasn't happening at bar mitzvah.

No, no, no, not at all. That would be really And I'm sure some people like to drink at bar mitzvah. That's insane.

When they're 12, you mean? Yeah. No, that's really that's too young to start drinking.

Or 13. How did we get here? Oh, my play pen. So, yeah, he's just growing up so fast.

And he's gray. Grayven. Yeah. Rubble. Um, what's it with you? Not too much. Long night. Long night. Yeah, we had a couple good runs, but it was back

it was back to the threehour window. So, that was rough, but we're here. We did it.

We did. I can sleep in tomorrow. So, I'm excited about that. And what else? We're recording Redheads today. So, got to get got to get with my gals.

Huge day for the And today's the first day of the new format where I'm not Oh, hands off

where I'm not doing the whole episode. So, I'm just sort of showing up to this podcast that's being produced for me. I can't wait.

Okay. Hopefully, it's still good. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, we're just changing it a little bit.

Listen, change is good. I agree. I I don't You don't? No, I'm really like an anti- change person.

You are. Have you become more or less anti? Well, my life has changed like by design.

Yeah. Um and it's been wonderful. So, has that made you like more? But I also feel like my life hasn't changed. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm so me.

You're still same old cooji. Same old cardboard cooji title. Cardboard gochi's corner. I have to find the clip for you. I think you'll really find it funny. Like, it's really not offensive. He's on TV.

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Thank you, Code Tart. You're welcome. Our first story, in no particular order, in no order of importance, Harry Styles drops his first new single in nearly three years with Aperture. Not to be confused with abeta.

Also, not to be confused because again, the song was in a circle and I was thinking rapture. I could not find the beginning of the word

churare. Correct. Literally Tupperware. It's aperture. So, it's his first song from his new disco album. I heard it was like very techno, very dancelike. So, I was so excited to listen on my commute because I am a techno girl now. Um, I did enjoy it. I didn't finish it. What did you think?

So, it was five minutes long, which I just think it's like a crazy length for a song.

Had a long intro. It did. Lots of synth. I just think it's a big length for a song. Um, and if you are going to cross like the 4minute mark these days songs are literally 2 minutes and 30 seconds. I hate that. I feel like the sweet spot is like 3:30. If you're going to go above 430, it has to be like

All too well, like a Hall of Fame type. Exactly. Um, this is not that. And I do feel like it's a new sound. And I don't like to make a judgment on like a new sound. I've only listened to it once.

Ask me on Monday. Fair. That's fair. You can't judge a new sound. It takes a minute to get used to. But also,

you can't break the mold and expect people to get it. It's like Nicki Minaj. You're not going to get the song the first time you hear it.

And we need people making new sounds. It's like that's what a great artist would do. So, I will give him runway. I agree with you on that.

I'm not making any sort of decree as to like it being terrible or being bad. It's different, which is, you know, we should embrace different.

Um, but it didn't immediately like make me feel like that's my jam. Turn it up.

Especially cuz like he said it was like a disco album. Like disco does have like a specific sound like disco already exists. So, it didn't it was like new disco. I don't know. I just want to say the thing about disco though, like those songs immediately

hit hit. So again, I'll I'll leave space for a new sound. Um some of the lyrics um it seems he's talking about his Lady Love perhaps. He said it's best you know what you don't. Aperture lets the light in.

Now of course aperture lets the light in. I didn't even which refers to a camera's aperture which controls how much of an image is visible to the photographer and affects the brightness and depth of the field of the image.

Right? So I didn't even listen to the lyrics because I was just like listening to the sound but I didn't know that like I wouldn't get it because I don't even know what the word aperture means. So it means an opening hole or gap. Okay. Hole. Do you think it's like sexual?

No. It's something about like or a space through which light passes in an optical or photographic instrument, especially the variable opening by which light enters a camera.

It's not sexual. It's drugs, you know, like drugs. I thought it was like media.

Trippy. It's like trippy stuff. Oh, it was giving media. It's giving like Sharon and you know.

So, it's not giving media. It's giving like light reflection hallucination. Oh, so you think him and some are doing drugs? No, it's just like

Yeah. You know, sort of like a foggy can't see, you know. Yeah. Um and then he also announced a couple of residencies, like many residencies we knew he was going to be doing.

That's so toastcoded. Oh my god. Like I'm telling you, he's craving stability. That was all right. Yeah, exactly.

That's actually a really good sign for him and Zoe. like the fact that he's like touring in this unique and different way so he can spend more time in one place like with his lady love

and post up now he announced it with a bunch of it was like a carousel poster for London and then a picture of two people kissing poster poster of whatever Amsterdam and a picture of two people kissing and it was like this like you know very raw like unedited like sexy ra Did you not see them?

So I saw some people kissing I didn't real I didn't watch the whole carousel. Yeah. And it was just like new pictures every time. And it was like I don't know what that like aesthetic is called where it's like no airbrush like sweaty like rave make out like and it was just like not graphic cuz it's like everyone's clothed and kissing. It was just like a lot of tongue.

Uh okay. Let's see. Harry Sty Oh yeah. Graphic. Keep going. Oh. I feel safe when I'm on the Yeah. Right.

On the tour. And I just like don't Yeah. Right. Tongue. Okay. Safe. I don't really understand like the aesthetics so far of this album. Like it doesn't feel com

sexual drugs. It's sexual drugs. That's drugs. Those pictures are sexual drugs. Yeah.

I think it's sex drugs and Harry Styles. Yeah. And I would say rock and roll, but techno disco.

Yeah. Disco tech. Yeah. So like I hate to be negative cuz like that's my king right there and he's always welcome of course in my home. Um, but like it's not giving like what I was like looking for, but at least it's different. You know, I do respect when people like try new things.

The sound is different. But like everything, you know, the kissing, the up close kissing, like Okay.

Yeah. So cool. Wow. I'd love to see your tongue and your sweat glass. Thank you.

I feel really But happy for everyone who's going to get chose. Like they don't have to come to New York.

You know what? Do not come. Like we don't need all these people coming, you know? Um, we always knew he would like do stuff out of New York, but it's also cool that he's like posting up in whatever location. Like, it's very toasted. We've always said if we ever did a tour, that's how we would do it. He's also doing like a little bit of press, like very unique choices. Like, he went on, you know, John Mayer has a SiriusXM show. I think it's on radio, Andy. Um, and so Harry interviewed him uh, excuse me, he interviewed Harry like talking about music and stuff and then he went on some, uh, I think it was like BBC radio and I was really appreciative that this person sort of followed up full circle um, asking Harry why he was at the pope's

remember when they announced the new pope and everybody like ran to Vatican. Harry was spotted there. So he was like, "I was in Rome and I was getting a haircut

and I'm getting my haircut and people start screaming and what um, they've elected a new pope but in Italian.

Thank you. And he was saying la papa whatever. Everyone's screaming it and the hair stylist is screaming it. They finish up his haircut really quickly because a guy wants to go. It's like a historic thing. And Harry was like, "Well, I was there and you know, it was like a big deal." So, I went.

Oh, cool. Yeah. I wonder what other shows he'll do. So far, the ones that you said seem congressous with someone who's like focused on the music. And then I do feel like if you want to get in the podcast game and you're focused on the music, like you talk to Jake Shane.

I know. But he's also um Harry was remote from every like he Harry's like I'm telling you he's really happy in his relationship. He's doing John Mayer. He was sitting on some green couch and then he was sitting on the same couch with like wired headphones in like very lowbudget production for the other radio show. Um he's not he's not wanting to move.

He's not like thirsting out doing a press tour. But I just want to say like and I like I like choosing stability but like you could go like he could go.

Of course. No. Like he's acting like like he's a you're supposed to be a provider. like get up and go to work.

Yeah, like a woman. He's acting like a new mama. Like who? A new mama. At first I think you said Malala. I'm like, "Okay, leave Malala out of this." Um, yes. No, he's acting like a new mother.

And so I could say like maybe him and Zoe like are expecting or something, but like you could still go in person.

Yeah. No, and it's also like at some point like leave your house. You are a man. You are here to provide.

He's acting like us. He's acting like us. Yeah. Like even the the the residency thing.

Yeah. And we do those things like to be comfortable and like work life balance, be near our kids like

like as like new mamas, pregnant ladies, postpartum breastfeeding women. Yeah, we're allowed to do that. Like you kind of had like men used to go to war, you know?

You could go see John Mayer in person. I wonder if he'll do like any press outside like off his couch.

I hope so. Yeah. And maybe he doesn't want to travel. So if Jake Shane goes abroad, everyone like we know why, but maybe he wants to like stay. He's in the UK, but like there's lots of Graham Norton.

Graham Norton. Yeah. I also feel like if he were going to do Jake Shane, like it would kind of be already happening

recorded. Maybe maybe it's coming out like or like this week. You know what I mean?

Yeah. We'll see. We shall see. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. We done trashing Harry Styles for the day.

I think so. I feel good. I feel all set. It feels right. Next. Ryan Reynolds is torched by fans over his cringe email. He allegedly sent to It Ends With Us author Colleen Hoover.

There's so every day we stop recording and there's more. I don't even know which one to pick on a given day, but this just feels like covers a lot of areas. So Ryan Reynolds correspondences are also being shared. He wrote

I want to say shout out to Dumo. Mhm. Because there's so much stuff. I'm sorry I'm not reading court documents. It's just like not what I want to do with my life. I I didn't go to law school. Like this is not my plate. But Duma is finding the relevant media and she's then making graphics on her Instagram and like transcribing them and they just feel like the the text is bigger and it's like I don't know why it feels more palatable to me. So if you're wanting to

I need it to be editorialized a little bit. Yes. And I think Juma is actually doing a very good job.

I agree. Um so let's get into the email that Ryan Reynolds wrote to Colleen Hoover. I'm sending you literally every form of congratulations. I I see this sky while jumping up and down and rapidly happily clapping. At one point, I was 3 feet from you at the afterparty, but I wasn't able to extricate myself from the So Studios chairman's mouth. I'm still in here, and I'm a little shocked I have service. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ] you guys really pulled it off. Like, Colleen, this thing is on fire everywhere, and audiences have wrapped both arms around the film. You and B made something gorgeous out of ingredients you didn't ask for, which is what makes you both in this whole post-production team so clutch. I heard you guys got a tummy bug and you're stuck in New York. I can't think of anything worse. Although it might be your body ridding itself of any residual baldon, I'd rather be puking in a goolog than hijacking performative

feminism while practicing personal growth ca catchphrases in the mirror. I hope you're taking a moment to enjoy this. I know the road wasn't always easy and clear. What a complete [ __ ] win this is. I know we all breathe rare air. I realize how lucky we are, but I also know how genuinely good you and be are. I could literally write you 84 more paragraphs eulogizing what this all means to me, but mainly I'm just incredibly proud and inspired by you and be so like just in their writing styles. Um Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds are quite literally made for one another like two there are not two people like more um weird like in their

verbose verbose um really cringy. I kind of feel like Drew Barrymore interviews people and like touches faces. Like I feel like they're touching faces

blankly. Help me with the word writtenly. Writtenly like what's the word? Transcribly.

Yeah. What's the word? Like orally, audibly, but like for writing. Literally. Oh yeah, probably. Um, now it's very, you know, what Blake and Ryan have been accused of from the very beginning is like taking over this movie. And I feel like all the media that's been released, text messages, emails, screenshots, whatever, like has sort of proved that, right? Like Blake thinks that like this no good first time director was not ina was not capable of a movie this size and she took it over. Her edit made the theaters. So like they did successfully sort of take it over. Um, and I guess that's bad because like it's mean, but it's like not a crime.

I think the issue was about the second movie. Like they took over this movie and then I think they were going to try and like take the second one from him in because also his character doesn't really like is not

exist in this. It's he's like a very subplot. So I think he felt like he had put everything he had like buying the rights and producing the movie and they like were going to cut him out of it.

Yeah. And now like it's just funny cuz there will be no second movie. There never could be a second movie.

No. And I if I'm like if I'm trying to be like like see things from Justin Palon's perspective, like that sucks. Like this was his idea. He s bought the rights from Colleen. Like he saw it before anyone else did. Um and he like probably was excited to cast Blake Lively like this huge star and her and her big-time husband like ended up like steamrolling the whole thing

and it just it could have gone on to be like a huge franchise. Allah Twilight. It's this beloved book. The movie was stared. There is a sequel. You could keep it going and like they were taking that from him. this would have been his big payday.

Now, how that has any legal or criminal bearings, like I don't know why we're talking about this in court. It just seems like sort of like schoolyard like Okay. Yes. And I feel like it has been proven they stole the movie. They were probably difficult to work with. The whole thing um that got us here is sexual harassment. Like, so I don't really understand, and this is Yeah, I'm not reading the court documents, so maybe if I read every single page, I would understand. I'm not really understanding what them taking over the movie has to do with the allegations of sexual harassment and like onset inappropriate behavior has because one of those is that is a crime like he is being accused of a crime.

I think that he said they took over his movie and then I think their rebuttal is like well you know in addition to incompetence there was onset inappropriate behavior. So, I know what it is. Actually, what it is is that wait,

like I think they're they pushed him. They're saying they pushed him out of the movie because he was in in addition to incompetence, which we see like inappropriate behavior with Blake, with other people, sexual harassment. So, yeah, we kind of pushed you out of your movie.

And so, as far as I know, based on everything I've seen so far, like it hasn't been disproven that he didn't sexually harass.

Well, it hasn't been proven. Well, they deposed his uh Blake Lively's driver who said like she w he witnessed like a really uncomfortable conversation in Blake's car about um like him having non-consensual sex and he said that he would after that didn't feel comfortable leaving Blake alone with this guy Jenny Slate the podcast host said lots of red like there it has not been disproven and allegations have been made by like a couple people now

right but I think you have to prove something like it's not about No I think it's the opposite you have to prove that it didn't Or you have to prove,

right? He's like counter suing. He's counter suing. I think No, but I just think in general you have to prove that like you the burden on of proof is on like the person making an allegation.

Yeah. But is she making an allegation like in court or just like in the public or just in the New York Times?

She filed like an employment suit. There's a lot. Right. So all I know is like I don't know. I'm no one wants to hear what I have to say, but like I'm not like where is the where is the actual proof that Blake Lively wasn't sexually harassed and that she made it up. Like where's that?

Well, that you can't like prove a negative, right? But there is supporting evidence that he did. There's like the w the driver's the witness. Like that stuff isn't getting blown up. Like of course the Taylor Swift thing is getting blown up, but there was a deposition with her driver who said he witnessed like definitely an inappropriate conversation. There was a voice memo when he was like, "I'm sure your baby's laying on your breasts right now." Like weird things you boss should never say to you. The young girl who said the inappropriate comment about her losing her virginity, Jenny Slate. Um, like so what? So, how does everybody know Blake Lively is making this up? Like, what piece of information am I missing?

I don't. They don't like her. She's annoying. And her and her husband stole the movie. Facts, right? That's facts. Now,

what does that have to do with sexual harassment? And like, because she stole a movie, she's lying. Like I'm genuinely asking like it's it's generally been decided that Blake Lively made all this up.

I don't like that's what the internet believes. True. I Okay, I can't go by the internet. I'm just going like and also like the most strange people have takes on I don't like really read stuff by crazy people. So I'm just like going based on what I'm seeing.

So I think like all of these things happened. Yes. Stealing a movie isn't a crime creatively. And I also would love to know like why the Sony people went with Blake's movie which was allegedly worse.

Also then there's other documents that like show Sony sex like kind of talking [ __ ] about

Blake, right? And also I don't know like that. Yeah, she's like a big bigger star. I don't know if they would like throw a whole movie away to appease this one person. Like if her if her version was so bad.

Well, her version is what you saw. So I thought it was good. So it wasn't so bad.

And it was a successful movie. It was over $100 million. It was a real movie, right? But it tested worse. And I know those focus groups like are people you don't live and die by the focus group. I think like you're supposed to like take it into account, but it's not like it's not the end all be all. Um but yeah, like all this all these documents like her and Ryan and Ryan wasn't even hired. Like girl, get out of here. Like they stole the movie.

They hated Justin. It seems like they hated Justin because Blake felt like he was of course incompetent but also inappropriate.

Yeah. But I will say like in these things that we're seeing like it's more so about hating him as a person. It's not like I feel so like they say it was the nightmare to work with him because he's this fake feminist and he's so obnoxious and whatever. There's not a lot of references to the harassment. Um

not that there has to be all the time, but it does seem to be more about like the personality clashes.

Yes. and her disliking him just for that other not because of and like the hubris and ego of him.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I think all everything that everyone said happened, so can't we just let it all go? You're all wrong.

Yeah. Except that like if everything that everybody said happened happened, they're not the same. Like her and Ryan stealing a movie cuz they think they're big stars and they're probably insufferable like egotist is not the same as like your boss sexually harassing you. So, I feel like people are treating both things as equal and they're not.

Yeah. Like inappropriate comments is what we've seen. Yeah. He's being accused of sexual harassment. Walking in on her with the boobs out, breastfeeding, like you know, all those things.

Didn't she tell like Yeah, but if you tell someone to walk like you can come see me breastfeeding one time, that's not a free pass.

We know that. Yes, I know that. And I've only recently realized that because it did happen to me where I was like someone like saw me breastfeeding once and then like every time I was breastfeeding, they kept coming in. I'm like, well, no,

we know like but so you know everything is like No, but so Blake's allowed to feel some type of way about that.

Yeah, but he he's allowed to be like, wait, I thought it was okay. I'm not if it was if that was like the one thing like sure, but like it seems like there's a lot of uncomfortable situations from this one person. But then again, it's also like a movie about uncomfortable things and like having a man direct all these women is already like a little it's like, girl, get out of here. You're also the star. Like, so it can it can be uncomfortable no matter what.

Yeah. I don't know. I'm just like I'm not ready to hop hop off yet. I'm not ready to like jump down Blake Lively's throat. Like she's annoying. She's cringy. Her and her husband like definitely think that their [ __ ] doesn't sink. They could do whatever they want and they almost got away with it. Yeah. All of those things. Yes.

Mhm. There's also other stuff that I think is like bigger. Yeah. Yeah. It's just in these filings, at least right now, like what we're see, they keep alluding to like the nightmare on working with him was a nightmare. I can't even. This is all post-production. We're not getting a lot of production stuff. Maybe that will come in his defense. Like he'll put forth those things as we get closer to trial to defend himself like there wasn't I didn't do anything wrong.

Um but they keep talking about what happened on set without telling us in a vague way.

Yeah. Just in like a in past tense. Yeah. And maybe I'll feel differently. I just feel I kind of feel like a little crazy. Like everybody's like hates my takes and I'm just like I don't know. I feel like and I and I read a lot and I I I I watch like a lot of Tik Toks mostly from people who don't like who are team Baldon.

Yeah. And I don't know. I just don't find it compelling. I And I'm not just like

blind. I'm no I'm just like digging I'm not even care about these people. I'm not even a huge Will Lively fan. I'm not a Justin Baldon fan. Like

I'm not digging my boots in just because like I this whole time said that I hate Justin Belon and like I don't want to be wrong. If if I really felt like my opinion changed, I would say it like and it would be like a whole thing. I I'm not Maybe I'll get there, but like I don't know. The more I read I'm like okay nothing Blake Lively has been accused of like is criminal. If being annoying was a crime, she would be in prison. And if being insufferable was a crime, she would be in prison. But like, those are not crimes. Sexual harassment is. And

keep saying she stole a movie. Stealing is a crime. No, it's not. Like creatively stealing, steamrolling over someone is not a crime. And I feel like there's so much that's come out and of course like the big headlines are the Taylor Swift and cringe text messages, but there are also things like the deposition of her chauffeur that like nobody's talking about because it does sort of support her claim. When was that?

When was what? The deposition. It's in all these filings. I don't know when he was deposed.

Um, yeah. Also, I saw stuff yesterday more about the birthing scene, which has always bothered me.

Yeah. Like an uncomfortable set. Actually, I whenever I think about like that, I think it's crazy that he said his wife gave birth naked. Like how you could give birth without a bra. It's insane.

No. And in a hospital, I've I've never heard of like people who do home birth and like give birth in a give birth naked. um that I've never heard of in a hospital.

So that's just like a fun fact. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. Yeah. So that's like I don't like that it's icky.

Mhm. And yucky, but like not a a crime crime. No. And the movie really does deal with like such sensitive topics that there was never going to be a world in which like nobody felt uncomfortable at all.

Um so I do think some of the things you can chalk up to like it being just a really sensitive movie covering a lot of sensitive topics. Um, but I don't know.

Yeah. I just feel like the big storyline about like Blake being annoying and cringe and like like a celebrity. What else do you expect from these like egotistical people who have their whole lives been told how amazing they are? Like she's definitely difficult to work with. Why that is a bigger headline than like all of the weird things Jessen Baldon is.

Well, I don't think the headlines can keep like there are so many headlines. That's what's be like like that's what I see like the takeway that's what everyone's clipping is the

well at least right now it's all her correspondences so like that's what everyone's really focusing on plus with Taylor like that's always going to be the biggest

of course of course everyone wants to hear what Taylor said more than the driver

of course but like the driver is more pertinent to the case than Taylor but I also imagine that um well I also like Taylor was really involved

and by the way did you see where the correspondence where Blake wrote you've like thank Thank you so much. You were amazing.

Saved another movie from the graveyard. This will be the second movie you pulled out of a grave. What's the first?

No. And like what? And so when a year ago or whatever when he said like Taylor and Blake like conspired to take my movie from me,

he sounded crazy. He did. And she said, "I'll release my dragons. They could be your dragons. They're on my team." Like he's talking about this like they kind of did.

Yes, definitely. And that's crazy. And that's just like for me that's tea. Exactly. Like

this is like legal tea though. No, but it's like that's tea. I don't know why you all are in court.

Yeah. And I've said this for a while now. They need to meet the two of them. They are destroying each other and themselves and they need to just say and walk away from this.

That's so funny. I don't feel like Justin Baldon is being destroyed. I think there was a moment in time when she first released in that whole New York Times thing where he was on the brink of destruction

like he was basically there and he fought back to thin nail and I think it's pretty overwhelmingly bad for Blake and now Justin I feel like he's been vindicated.

Okay, that's just how I feel based on public perception. And what ends up happening in court like might even change what you just said, but it proves why he had to fight tooth and nail and do all of this because like he would when that New York Times thing came out

goodbye Justin Baldon. No, it's insane how quickly and how drastically it went from one extreme to the other.

Yeah. And don't forget like the summer of hating Blake Lively. Yes. And then Wow. It's been it's been such a long time cuz this was the last last one.

It wasn't his past. It was the other and then in December she did her big thing and almost you know almost won and he did not give up. And now we're over a year later not even in court yet.

Mhm. Yeah. It's been a long time. It's been a long time coming. So yeah, it's a lot. Yeah. And I understand it's emotional like

and if someone could just explain to me like how they know Blake Lively is lying like about the sexual harassment like what

it's not that they know that she's lying saying she has yet to prove it. Got it.

That's all I think. Okay. And so we're just not we just don't believe I thought we were believing women. Like I thought that was the party line.

Well, it depends on the woman who you are. And I think it also depends on the woman. like, okay, the woman's annoying and the woman is like,

well, for other for other, you know, small pebbrained people, but I'm saying in general, like here, like, yes, we we shall endeavor to believe women, but you have to prove something as well,

right? And so, because she stole a movie, maybe that makes her a less believable victim. Is that I'm I'm genuinely just trying to understand.

I can't get into the mind of a pea brain. No, not even a PE brain. somebody smart who like is Justin Baldon believes you don't believe Blake Lively was sexually harassed because she stole a movie and she's like a [ __ ] Is that why? Like [ __ ] can't be harassed.

I'm I can't answer this question on behalf of people that I don't agree with. Yeah.

I and I don't listen to their takes on TikTok. So I actually don't No, I do. And like the whole thing is like well look look at like look at what's happened this week. What that has to do with sexual harassment? I'm not sure.

Not a lot has happened to do with sexual harassment this week though. No. But it has been proven that her and her husband stole the movie. Like he was getting involved. It's not his movie. They were using their big A-list money connects powers. Even him saying, "Look, I was in the mouth of a Sony exec." Everybody in Hollywood up until recently like ate their ass.

So they used all their powers to steal a movie from someone they didn't think was capable of doing it. Yes. That has been proven.

Yeah. I personally would like to focus on like the crimes more so than the movie stealing. Our next story, some memoir news. Hayden Penitentiier is getting the memoir treatment. She's revealed the cover of her new memoir. Not called Memoirs of a Hayden. It is called This Is Me Reckoning.

Okay. I will never say anything bad about Hayden Penitenti. Like, she deserves all of our love and support. It is a bad memoir name. As somebody who just like for a living criticizes memoir's names,

that is the best part of our job. I would say my criticism with this memoir name is that it could be anyone's memoir name. Yeah. Right. This is me, right? A reckoning.

It could be Kayla Settles. It should be Kaya Settles. 1,000%. But who's the last person we that we said was writing their memoirs? Like it could have been This is me. So

I would have loved something else. Now getting past because we're not supposed to judge a book by its cover nor its title. I don't think there's somebody more poised to write a banging memoir. I mean, let alone her like prolific child acting career. Um, and she almost made it out of like that trope of child actors. She was doing quite well until she had a baby. And I think that really sent her into like a very rare but but not spoken about like enough case of like true postpartum psychosis, like postpartum depression.

She had to give up custody of her daughter like and then she had, you know, terrible things happen in her family separately from that. So, it's really sad what's happened to Hayden Paniter and I feel like the way everybody feels about like Amanda Bines. Um, like where we just like want to r like Hayden Pentiter doesn't get enough love because she's really not in the public eye. Like she's taken a step back, but like she deserves all the love. Like everybody buy her book even if you don't know how to read.

I will be reading it. It's due this spring. I'm going to read it. I really hope she talks about I hope she talks about Nashville.

Okay. So, um, like where we're staying has like this TV that has like Samsung TV plus. Yes, I told you that's where I found the Martha Stewart show. And um it has the most

Does my frame have s Martha Stewart show Samsung? Yeah, but like this TV whenever you turn on just takes you know how like in New York you put on your TV it takes you to New York one. This takes you to Samsung plus TV or whatever.

It takes me to the weirdest channel but on Yes, I understand. And so they're always playing the most random stuff. Last night they were playing Nashville and it was I forgot. Remember that girl Scarlet? Oh, she was so annoying.

Oh, she was but she was the whole What do you mean remember? She was the whole show. when I turned it on, she was like singing around on some stage and I was like, "Now I remember why I stopped watching the show." Like she literally ruined it. Um, speaking of Nashville,

Scarlet and Gunner and she like wouldn't take him back even though they were meant to be together.

Gunnar was there too. Gunner, he is cute. He was sweet. He always comes through our red carpet.

There are so there are so many things that Hayden Penitent like needs to touch on.

Well, yeah. So, she was in Remember the Titans. She was on some soap operas like One Life to Live. She was on Heroes

Raising Helen Scream movie. Wait, one more. Bring it on. Bring it on with Solange Nolles.

Bring it on. All or nothing. Where she learned to crump. So good. So so good. So yeah, that's out this spring. Get your TBR's ready.

Who's publishing it? Like just Grand Central Publishing and imprint. We all know that word from younger.

Yes. Yes, I watched Younger of Hatchet Book Group. Okay, let's go. Let's go. Oh, I like I don't think often about Hayden Paniter. So, if you would have asked me like who which celebrity would write the best memoir, I she wouldn't even come to mind. But she's really she's up there with the greats.

I think this will be a great book. I think so, too. Our next and you know, and memoirs don't have to be held back by their titles. Like even if you think of our favorite celebrity memoir,

Jessica Simpson open book. Open book. That could also be anyone. It's generic. It wasn't like chicken of the books, you know?

Tuna of the book. Tuna of the the literary aisle. Of the sea. Did you see like her theme song?

No. Cuz we talked about them doing a partnership, right? And so she's like and we literally said bring back jingles. She made a jingle for them.

Oh, I have to go see. Yeah, it was cute. Okay. Are you ready for our next story?

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How are they stealing their work? uh they use, you know, their name and likeness and stuff

and also like sounds and well, Scarlett Johansson had that crazy saga where like an AI company that has like a like a Siri type of voice

guy was using her voice which is illegal and I do that's a big one they were found guilty like I feel like this is confusing because our like the law is pretty clear like on copyright and stuff. If any AI companies is using any of these celebrities name and likeness without their consent like that is illegal and they are entitled to compensation. So are they taking a stance against AI in general or just AI like skirting the law?

AI skirting the law in terms of using copyrighted material like I imagine like using you know a scene from a film and putting someone else's face on it like stuff like that like

Yes. I remember chat just recently they had like a you know they have like a different they own a thing called Soma or whatever.

Oh the video one. Yeah. Sora, right? And they were using like a lot of movies and like Jake Paul's face and and yes, that

so that would be like I think that's among the things that they're talking about and I think that they are fighting for like more licensing basically to get paid for like AI sorts of things as opposed to not using it at all. Um,

got it. So they don't really inherently have an issue with AI. It's more so I don't think you can like fight AI happening,

right? So this is just kind of like a niche issue for them. It's hard for me to personally care um about like Scarlett Johansson not getting more money and but like even though like I believe that she's right um and like sorry that happened to you

and like they weren't mad when robots were taking other jobs right of like coal miners so like again that doesn't mean that their cause is wrong

robots could m coal mines coal mine mine the coal right um like sorry agreed good luck with that

yeah yeah tt You know, everyone's got their own battle to fight. And I just want to say one thing.

Open ladders effective. I don't think so. And I think I I'm personally open letter fatigued. And when I

so performative when I see an open letter, even if I agree with what they're saying, I don't agree like I it's not that I disagree with writing an open letter, you know, say what you want, do what you want, read about the press.

I just it's really hard for me to care. like they're so performative and it's like there's an open letter and then like a bunch of celebrities sound like an opposing open letter and it's like battle of the open letters and it's like you know what I prefer the Morgan letters.

I do prefer the Morgan letters. Yeah. So good luck with that, you know, and it's really just about numbers because they say these three people and then 700 others.

Oh, and I want to talk about these three people. Obviously you lead with Scarlett Johansson. It's like wow. Who was the second?

Kate Blanchett, you know, then we get to Joseph Joseph Gordon Love It. And I love Joseph Gordon. Love it. If 500 Days of Summer has no fans, I've passed away. But like that's the third most famous person on your list. Like seriously, good luck.

No. And also some of these open letters, I mean this is like whatever Hollywood stuff, but some of these open letters they'll be like 600 scientists said and it's like someone who's in an eighth grade science class and it's the eighth grader.

They use a lot of big like generalizations. Yeah. So, you know, you really have to really look at the list of signitories.

Yeah. And I'm just like and I don't want to look at the list. No, I'm just over open letter culture.

I agree. And I agree. You know, let me ask you this. So a closed letter is like the mail. Like

I think a closed letter is like you don't the public doesn't know that like you sent this letter to the AI companies.

Yeah. Why don't people try closed letters? Like I'm just like try something new.

Yeah. I think people like a, you know, an open letter is a great way to get your name out.

It's so true. Cuz when they do, it's a great way to like generate press for yourself about

send out an open letter. It almost always comes with like a press release. Yeah. And then like you look cause driven. Your name is in the press and you didn't really have to like do that much and it looks like you care about something.

Slay the house down boots. Scarlet. Yeah. Our fifth and final story. Kyle Cook is addressing potential financial implications in Amanda Patula breakup.

This was the weirdest. It's not a breakup, it's a divorce, right? And this was also the weirdest. You think, okay, he's being, you know, st speaking for the first time on his divorce, 10 years in the making, and it's literally like somebody following him around with a phone.

He's on the side of the road. Yeah. And it's not it's not like an airport TMZ or anything. It's just like his intern filming.

Oh, it's Adam Glenn. Yeah. Okay. I actually know him. Yeah. Who is he? He is like a paparazzi who started his own social media. Um, and now has like he has really good relationships with celebrities, reality stars, too. Um, because he is like a successful paparazzo. I think he's like a paparazzo for hire, so they all really like him. And now he does like a lot of men on the street content. I actually see his stuff um everywhere. So, good for him. What? He got the scoop.

He got the scoop. So, Kyle Cook is addressing online speculation that Amanda could potentially get saddled with some of his debt from Lover Boy. He said,

right? Because he took out personal loans, right, instead of raising more money.

He said, I've seen a bunch of videos pop up talking about divorce and the financial implications. I don't think a lot of people really understand the intricacies of my business to begin with. Is there debt? Yeah, I took a small business business loan, he said. I actually have no idea, he admitted, adding that he and his aranged wife don't really plan to get to that point. So, I guess hopefully they could just like

split amic. I imagine they never really like merged finances or anything like a very modern marriage before you have kids like

um except that she was like very involved in lover boy lover boy building you know doing the branding building into like helping out where it is. I

I don't know if she would just like walk away from all of that but maybe for her piece she would.

Yeah. And I think like I think I said this the other day there was a time where I do feel like it actually would have been really hard for her to walk away. I think the company at one point was actually worth a lot of money and now the space is like very saturated and I don't think they have like a huge market share anymore and I think they did take on a lot of debt. Um and so now I think it's maybe easier for her to walk away be like yeah maybe this company will sell for a lot of money. It might not and like for my piece I can go um

or maybe he'll give her like a percentage of it. But didn't he say on the show that he had taken out a personal loan? A small business loan would not affect your partner. It affects the business. You take out the loan on the business. where you get into trouble is where you start to take out personal loans and you can't, you know, if you default on those loans, then like your house gets taken. That's what happens, you know, like in like a lot of big scandals. So, I remember him saying on the show that he had taken out a personal loan.

I don't know that. I can't if he did, that would be incumbent on Amanda. Um, I also believe Aantha Aantha Amanda is um personally wealthy, her family. Um, so I just imagine like she's not terribly worried. Yeah, I think I hope I think they'll be able to just like both walk away. Like he said, we hope to not get to that point. I think it should be as like mess-free as a divorce could be.

Mhm. Even though they do have this like entity between them. Yeah, we'll see. Um well,

weer and wiener. Queener and wiener. Sabrina the wiener. Never. Today's Queenie and we our fifth, no, our our final, excuse me, segment of the week. Every Friday, Jackie and I like to do a little segment we call queenie and weenie of the week where we deliver two awards, a rose and a thorn if you will to a queenie of the week. Somebody who acted like a queenie of the week and weenie, somebody who was being major weenie energy this week. Um,

a lot of choices. And if it's okay with you, I'd like to go first with my weenie because I

Oh, no. We always start with queenie. That's what I said. Sorry. Did I say you said weenie?

Excuse me. I'd like to start with my queenie because I've had my queenie written in my notes app since Monday since I saw this video. That literally brought me to tears. Um, Bridget from the bar, influencer to the stars, and also founder of the bar. She has been publicly battling cancer for the last like two years. She's been documenting the whole thing on social, just like acting like a queen. She finished her treatment and she did the whole walk with the bell. And whenever I see like a bell video, I'm like I'm sat and I'm crying. This one just like seriously broke me. She was wearing the cutest outfit. Like she refused to lose her sparkle during chemo. She rang the bell.

Her [ __ ] husband, the way I would take a bullet for that. We have chills. I saw the video of you describing it.

[ __ ] husband. Like I obviously I was watching Bridget, but I was watching her husband. Like he was so overcome with emotion. He wanted to hug her, but like he did not want to take like it it is. First of all, the video is a work of art. Bridget is a queen. Bridget is Excuse me. Bridget is a queenie and she happens to be the queenie of my week.

I love that. That's a beautiful queenie. Shout out to Bridget. My queenie is Chris Appleton.

Yeah. for coming on the show, being such a trooper, giving our breath with our breath like energy, um, cutting my hair on his way out the door, down to clown.

He was very generous with his product, his time, his skill, and his scissors. Yeah. And he was down to clown, which is really like if you're coming on this show,

you have to be you have to like join us down here. Yeah. Like, so it might not always go that like but you know, sometimes it's just an adventure over here at the Toast. And he had such great energy and everyone really loved yesterday's episode. You got an amazing haircut. I got fresh pieces. Like he's the queenie of my week.

Yeah. And like you do expect somebody who like, you know, is so he was literally like the most famous hair stylist. Like he was you would never know. He was so normal and so cool. Like how he was on the show was exactly how he was. Literally, we were like running out of his studio cuz he had like a book tour to do making TikToks. He was so down. Like g he gave us everything. He left everything on the mic.

Agreed. Weenie. So many good options this week. Now, what really took over my week was tell me lies. And I know it's like I feel like weenie is not even a big enough term for Stephen, but like the way he made me feel like was so profound. That filming scene like it was really it's like I I don't even want to give him weenie because how he behaved was so more than a weenie

diabolical psychopath of the week. Criminal of the week. Like seriously, jail for you week. But he was my weenie of the week. Like seriously, I [ __ ] hate Steven. It's actually crazy when a show makes you feel that's how you know it's a good show like good and bad like makes you feel it's such a good show and his performance is really I hope it's a good performance and he's not even remotely like that because he's so believable. He is [ __ ] awful. I cannot stand that man. Weenie. Also, shout out to Colton.

My weenies plural are Brooklyn and Nicola. I cannot believe that they did what they did. Can we talk about a person whose name I swear I would never say on this show, but it has to be said.

Oh, I just saw that this morning. Okay, so into it, but I saw like Nicola's ex's sister is talking about how Nicola always wanted to be famous. I was like, which of her exes has a sister?

So Alana Hadid, like the extremely irrelevant, awful, anti-Semitic sister of the Hadid family, chimed in. And you know what? I actually appreciated it because I had read in a Tik Tok comment like so it really that you know Nicola dated Anar Hadid for 4 years and I read that at the time he was really estranged from his family especially his mom um and I was like well that's convenient if not true and interesting if true and then Alana chiming in um basically echoing that sentiment and being like you know team Victoria while I hate her with every fiber of my being her perspective is appreciated. Oh. Oh, I thought you were saying that she was a weenie.

Well, she is a weenie, but honorable mention. I just wanted to talk about what she said.

Oh, yeah. It seems to just be a pattern. Yeah. Which is not good. Um, and so yeah, I can't believe the two of them wrote that. Especially like as we discussed this week, like no one was talking about it at the moment. Like we weren't looking for an explanation. The two of you could have ridden off into the sunset and you don't have to like I'm just never going to side with the person that like publicly trashes their family when like the it seems fine. Maybe they're like a little controlling and she danced

and she's posh spice. So like what do you expect, right? She shook her hips at the wedding.

May I suggest like I I do feel like the weeniness really weighs heavy on Brooklyn shoulders. Like honestly, Nicola Slay, your man loves you so much. Like him like throwing your mother to Nicola. Victoria is just like a mother-in-law to Brooklyn. Like that's your mom, dude. Like

I agree. The onus is more on him, but you know, they're a unit. They're a unit and it's like Megan and Harry like it's the book. I know you love to put you're very consistent in that like you put all the onus on Harry. Um

I think you know the womanly wilds can't be understated. So true. But the men falling for it cannot be understated. That's our show. Thanks for an amazing week you guys. We're back on Monday with just more swirly energy. Hopefully more breath energy.

Monday traders recap. Monday traders recap. And that's all uh that's all we've got for you. Thank you so much for listening to the Tesla Monday morning show where we deliver the fast five stories each and every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere podcast we found. So that's Spotify, iTunes public radio, I hear radio cast box, all the places we listen to podcast five star about how beautiful about how stunning and about how wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have a wonderful weekend. Love you. Bye.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Cardboard Coji: Friday, January 23rd, 2026"?

Jackson Claude (Host), Stanberries (Guest).

What is "Cardboard Coji: Friday, January 23rd, 2026" about?

The discussion centers on a light-hearted Friday morning chat about hairstyles, particularly featuring cuts from renowned stylist Chris Appleton, with humorous commentary on the perceived expense of booking such high-profile services. The hosts reflect on the week's events, acknowledging a shorter workweek due to Martin Luther King Jr. Day, and share their personal experiences and excitement…

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8 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Ryan Reynolds, Hayden Panettiere, Tell Me Lies, Lover Boy. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Cardboard Coji: Friday, January 23rd, 2026"?

The episode runs 1 h 6 min; the transcript is about 14,666 words in 328 timestamped sections.

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