On The Pulse: Wednesday, February 4th, 2026

What this episode is about

On February 4th, 2026, the hosts discuss their excitement for midweek entertainment, sharing insights on recent TV episodes, including the season premiere of "Summerhouse" and a recap of "Tommy Lies." They highlight their dynamic energy and the unpredictability of their content, emphasizing the balance between being in tune with current trends and their unique, playful take on the day’s offerings.

Key takeaways

• Turns out you can be pulse adjacent without feeling pressured to be in the zone all the time.
• Medical results are like pop quizzes—clarity is key, or you're left Googling in a panic.
• Who knew checking pulses could turn into an episode of 'Survivor'? Navigating the logistics is no easy feat!
• It’s Wednesday—embody that midweek energy! If you’re low pulse, consider a coffee or a gossip fix.
• When receiving news, clarity matters! 'Benign' should be the headline, not a scavenger hunt for reassurance.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Jackson Claude (Host) · 38 min speaking
• Claudia (Guest) · 26 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Summer House, Bravo, Tell Me Lies, Peter Attia
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Collective, The Container Store, Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey
4. 30:00 – 40:00: In the City, Summer House
5. 40:00 – 50:00: In the City, Bravo, Summer House
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Tell Me Lies

Notable quotes from "On The Pulse: Wednesday, February 4th, 2026"

• Fabulous girls. So, it's a sort of baseline fabulousness. we've got great stories. We watched a ton of TV last night. We've got Tommy Lies recap.

  about Tell Me Lies · at 1:23

• Yeah, me as well. Tell Me Lies, Summerhouse. Very exciting. So many thoughts.

  about Summer House · at 5:36

• Longevity doctor. Is that like that's what Dr. Peter Aia is? I'm like learning so much about this person I never knew.

  about Peter Attia · at 10:07

• Today's episode is also brought to you by Baked by Melissa. Finding the perfect gift can feel impossible. You want something that's thoughtful, fun, and guaranteed to make people smile. And.

  about The Container Store · at 14:18

• And right now, Baked by Melissa is offering our listeners 20% off your order at bakedbylissa.com/toast.

  about Baked by Melissa · at 15:35

• Is in the millions. It's a substantial amount of money, and TMZ reports it has received an alleged ransom note demanding payment for the release of Nancy Guthrie.

  about Nancy Guthrie · at 17:32

• You've seen it. I You knew it was happening. But for me, it's for you because ta Travis Kelce choke that Taylor Swift is gonna kill him over this fumble. So Travy was recording his podcast New Heights with his brother Jay face. And.

  about Travis Kelsey · at 20:17

• Teaser video dropped at Bravo. So, last night was the season 10 Summerhouse premiere and they also shared a teaser for the upcoming spin-off in the city.

  about Bravo · at 39:32

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Missing person / alleged kidnapping victim · 2 mentions · first at 17:14
  Central figure of the first news story: hosts discuss her disappearance and an alleged ransom note demanding Bitcoin for her release.
• Savannah Guthrie — Person · Referenced public figure (family member of missing person) · 2 mentions · first at 17:14
  Discussed as the famous daughter whose prominence may have motivated an alleged ransom attempt involving her mother, Nancy Guthrie.
  Our first story, the search for Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthri's mom, continues. And an odd twist, TMZ received an alleged ransom note for Savannah Guthri's mom, Nancy, demanding.
• Travis Kelsey — Person · Referenced celebrity (sports figure) in pop-culture segment · 2 mentions · first at 20:49
  Used in a light celebrity-news story: he allegedly broke a chair while recording his podcast and joked that Taylor Swift would be upset.
• Peter Attia — Person · Referenced expert (alleged mention in Epstein-related discussion) · 1 mention · first at 9:04
  Hosts discuss viral 'Epstein files' content on TikTok and claim Attia appears in emails; they frame him as a prominent longevity/podcasting figure.
• Taylor Swift — Person · Referenced celebrity (partner context) · 3 mentions · first at 20:22
  Appears as the implied homeowner/partner in the Travis Kelce anecdote; hosts riff on her home aesthetic vs. his size and furniture durability.
  You've seen it. I You knew it was happening. But for me, it's for you because ta Travis Kelce choke that Taylor Swift is gonna kill him over this fumble. So Travy was recording his podcast New Heights with his brother Jay face. And.

Companies & orgs

• Bravo — Company · Media network · 2 mentions · first at 5:52
  Network producing shows discussed in the podcast, including 'Summerhouse' and 'Tell Me Lies'

Media & podcasts

• Summer House — Media · TV show · 4 mentions · first at 1:29
  Show discussed in the podcast, with a recap provided by the hosts
• Tell Me Lies — Media · TV show · 2 mentions · first at 5:36
  Show discussed in the podcast, with a recap provided by the hosts
• In the City — Media · TV show · 7 mentions · first at 39:29
  Upcoming spin-off show discussed in the podcast
  Our next story, In the City, season 1 teaser video dropped at Bravo. So, last night was the season 10 Summerhouse premiere and they also shared a teaser for the upcoming spin-off in the city.

Sponsors

• The Container Store — Company · Sponsor of the episode · 3 mentions · first at 12:54
  The Container Store is mentioned as a sponsor providing organizational products and services.
• Collective — Product · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at 15:47
  Sponsor of the podcast, promoting their financial solution for solopreneurs
  Collective's community and support, you can finally take the solo out of solopreneur. Right now, Collective is giving you 50% off your first two months when you go to collective.com/toast.
• Baked by Melissa — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 14:18
  Sponsor of the podcast, promoting their holiday treats

Full transcript with timestamps

0:04 Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. I hope everybody's having Yeah, it's Tuesday, right? No,

0:30 Wednesday. Yeah. A little gift. A gift of the Wednesday. Are you sure? Oh my god. Yeah.

0:35 A gift of the hump dairies. Much like Cynthia Revo. I did not know that was happening. Oh my goodness. Happy Wednesday. Oh, that's just like kind of changes everything.

0:44 Turn your frown upside down. Yeah, Madam Marble. It's getting wicked Wednesday.

0:51 Wicked Wednesday. It's very exciting to be here with you on this Wednesday. I was saying we are adjourned with cojourn.

0:57 Consider court adjourered. Yeah. Your next podcast like weigh in on legal issues

1:03 about the baloney case. Three people will listen to it. We're adjourned with co-joured.

1:11 Well, thank you all for joining with me today. For jouring for jouring jourers. Sojourers rural juror.

1:19 Hope everybody's having a fabulous Wednesday. We have a fabulous show planned for you guys. We are two fabulous girls. So, it's a sort of baseline fabulousness. Um, we've got great stories. We watched a ton of TV last night. We've got Tommy Lies recap. We both both watched the season premiere of Summerhouse. So, we're just kind of like, I don't know, have our fingers on the pulse today. Some days we don't have our fingers on the pulse. Today we do.

1:38 Yeah. I wonder what's preferred, you know, for the episodes where we're like on it or not on it.

1:44 I I think there's a nice mix and I think that's what makes it so so great. It's like you never know what to expect. Is this going to be a pulsey episode? It's like we're on the pulse to a degree.

1:54 We're like sort of pulse adjacent, but it's not like we're going to be all pulse all the time.

1:59 No. You know who I feel like is all pulse all the time? Like the Vile Files. Like they watch every TV show. They watch it early. Like they have the episode up at 6:00 in the morning. So you like We are like pulse adjacent.

2:12 Yeah. We dabble with pulse. Yeah. We pulse here, we pulse there. We dabble with low pulse.

2:17 God forbid. Heaven forbid low pulse. The a runner's pulse. That's what Dr. Fox told me because my pulse is low.

2:26 You know me, I don't get worked up. Can I feel your pulse? Yeah. Do you know about pulse?

2:30 What about pulse? I know how to find the pulse. Okay, but like how would you know if it's slow or fast?

2:36 I don't know. And like your watch is kind of in the way. Give me your other hand.

2:41 I'll take my watch off. Why don't you want to give me your other hand? Crossing over. It's not like a good look for me.

2:46 Relax. Yeah. I have to focus so hard. Hold on. Dang, you're the right headphones. Like I think

2:52 No, it's feeling not hearing. No, but I feel like it like throws up your balance.

2:59 You're dead. That's what I'm saying. Great job over time. I can't find it. That's what I'm saying,

3:09 you guys. I literally feel nothing. Hold on. Maybe I'm in the wrong spot. Let me see if I can feel it and I show you where it is. Do you want to know what's not on the pulse? It's checking each other's pulses.

3:24 This is like a silent podcast where we like for It's checking each other's pulses on the show. But yeah. No.

3:28 Why is fighting a pulse so hard? I literally I thought you literally Oh, I found mine here. I'm alive.

3:34 That's good. I'm alive. But yeah, I don't know if I am. I have a low pulse. Dr. Fox said. You know me, I don't breathe a lot. I take one big sigh like every five minutes.

3:45 Yeah. I feel like I did that when I was pregnant. It's like, "Oh, yeah. Breathe."

3:49 No, I I'm a big sire. People will hear it like from the other room. They're like, "You okay?" I'm like, "Yeah, I just took my breath

3:54 for the day." Um, kind of big news for me, seeing of medical things like the pulse. I got my biopsy results yesterday and they were um I'm not 100% sure. She was like kind of confusing me on the phone. I was looking for the words benign, non-cancerous, and I didn't hear either of those. So, I was like, "Oh, great. I have cancer." Then she told me what it was and thank god I wrote it down because I googled it and they said what I googled is a benign non-cancerous

4:20 mild to moderate mild to moderate atypical neas. Okay. Um and thank you. It's benign non-cancerous. Like I just wish they had said that. Like I have a real problem with the delivery of the results.

4:32 Those are the key words. However, they need to they need you to help up those bills.

4:36 Yeah, they do still want me to come in of course. Like I just can't. Like I will

4:40 I will but all I was looking for was benign non-cancerous and I didn't get that. So, I literally was sitting here after the show and I totally had forgotten because I'm just so careful.

4:47 I took the call in front of a bunch of people, she was like, "Film me." I just feel like if I made it like so not a big deal, like I wasn't going to have cancer, you know? Um like if I had to step out, it's like, "Well, that's when you hear that you have cancer." So,

4:59 it wouldn't happen like in a room full of people. Yeah. With all my co-workers and my peers cuz I am peerless. I just feel like they weren't going to say malignant.

5:08 Mhm. And it turns out they didn't say malignant, but they didn't say benign either. So, the results were questionable. Um said alladine.

5:14 They literally said all as well said aladine quite literally. That's how confusing it was.

5:20 So that's what I did yesterday. Um sort of like crazy times for me. Understood. Were we together yesterday? Oh, we got our nails done.

5:28 Did I already chip mine? Like seriously kill me. Oh, I'm happy to go back. Switch my color. We'll do that.

5:34 And then I watched a lot of TV for my job. Yeah, me as well. Tell Me Lies, Summerhouse. Very exciting. So many thoughts.

5:41 So many thoughts. So many. When does Spare House of Beverly Hills come out? Thursdays, which is not

5:46 No, it's today. It's Wednesdays. Oh, Wednesday. Great. And I feel like something else is coming out soon, too.

5:52 On Bravo or just like in the universe? On Bravo. Maybe it the new Bravo adjacent show for the old Rooney women has a name. They're calling it the golden life. I guess a spin on like how they're in their golden years, they're the golden girls, like older women living their best life. Um, and I feel like they're really clo. It also does say it's a working title, so it's subject to change. It's called the go the golden year the golden girl. Wait,

6:17 the golden life. The golden life parenthesis working title. So I I think they're really close to the title. I hope they continue to work it cuz I like the concept of like they're in the golden state living their golden years. And I'm sure like Golden Girls is like trademarked. They're almost there. The golden life isn't working for me.

6:33 The golden state is California, but it's definitely the sunshine. Sunshine State. My bad. My bad. Which is golden. I do like the word golden. I think there's a lot there. When I first heard golden life, I was like, "Huh?" And then I was like, "Oh, yeah. Golden year." Um, you know, golden glow.

6:48 Uh, I think there's a lot of potential. They put out a video of like all the housewives announcing the

6:53 obsessed with these ladies like so turned into golden girls. Like it was so roy.

6:59 It was giving like made on like Instagram layout. It was hysterical. And if that's a taste of what we can get, it's mighty tasty.

7:06 I just know. I just know Dina is not well. Like it's killing her. I haven't thought about her one time. She's not an OG.

7:14 No, of course not. But I loop her in with that group of like elderly women who drink a lot who ruined the franchise. Um I do

7:20 with their drinking, right? I do wonder if this puts them in a bad spot with Bravo. Like

7:26 while the women have not been on Bravo in many years, they're still on Watchens Live. They go to BravoCon. They're part of the Bravo family. They get like weird spin-off opportunities. Um

7:34 E is a sister of Bravo. They It's a sisterhood and Bravo is all about the the peacock.

7:40 This is just the first time where like Bravo people have collectively jumped ship is

7:46 but it's ish and I'm sure Bravo had first right of refusal and they didn't want the show and they went to E. And again, it's all under the NBC Universal umbrella and NBC is going to be like you better get if this show is a success they're going to say bring them to Bravo

7:57 or Peacock. Yeah, it's a feather in everyone's cap. I think it's all good. Okay. Um, so we kind of like a lot to do just because we are so pulsy today.

8:07 Yes. So if there's nothing else, I just like can't remember a thing that I did yesterday.

8:12 Oh, you know, my TikTok has taken me to the Epstein files and I would like to be away from it. It's very upsetting. Um, and also like it's kind of confusing cuz it's like the files, but it's also like anonymous tips that people have submitted, so it's like not all 100%. But I've just like ended up like reading some really upsetting things about like these like women who were forced to have babies. Like

8:33 I saw something about babies. It was very very upsetting. Um and it just kind of ruined my morning. I was like scrolling TikTok while I was doing my hair and then like these people like explaining to me what they found. Um and I just like it was very upsetting.

8:45 Yeah. When and I was in it for like the celebrity and like the only person who so far his name I heard and there are three three million documents like it will be

8:53 thousands of names but like Dr. Peter Aia, who I didn't even know, but apparently he's like a big podcast.

8:58 Bald ones. Yes. You know him? Oh yeah. He's always giving me tips. Oh my god. Okay.

9:03 On what salt to use. So he was a big customer of Jeffrey Epstein. Like his emails are so bad.

9:08 Oh my god. And there's this thing in his book where he talks about this traumatic life event um where his like young child ended up in the ICU. And he's telling the story, it all happened on July 11th. And he's telling the story in his book about like the day he wasn't home. he was in New York and his son was in the ICU in San Diego. And then like the emails from the Epstein files like prove that he was like hanging out with Jeffrey Epste on July 11. Like he said in his book that he didn't go home because of work when his son was in the ICU and it turns out he didn't go home because he was like hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein.

9:37 Wow. Yeah. No, it's really crazy. So, so far he's like the first like big like name who we've never heard of. We were like all these celebrities are going to be in the files. Like I want to hear more celebrities. But first it's Dr. Peter Ailla which is like so random. I don't even know him.

9:50 I actually don't know him. He's not the salt guy. The salt guy. I had to find his name. He went on Mat Abbey one time. So,

9:58 his name not has nothing to do with this conversation, but his Dr. Amen. You know him? He's another bald doctor who podcast.

10:07 Longevity doctor. Is that like that's what Dr. Peter Aia is? I'm like learning so much about this person I never knew.

10:12 But apparently like he's like a Huberman type. People are obsessed with him. It's like devastating for his community.

10:17 You know this man? No, I don't know that man at all. He's everywhere. I don't know that man. I'm sorry. Sorry to this man.

10:23 You don't know him. You if you saw him like talking into He looks like Blair's stepfather from Cyrus.

10:29 Cyrus from If you saw him talking to a microphone him everyone is him. I must have missed that episode of Matt Abby.

10:36 We should have him on. He's You never know. I don't want to have people on. You never know. They might end up in the Epstein files.

10:41 That's so true. Oh, and there was also an Epstein file where they're talking about Mattie Ziggler. Just like No, not guilty. No, Mattie Ziggler's not a part of it. They were just like, "Did you see that music video?" Like yucky. Like really. And then they also talk about like these people are so dumb, by the way. Like they literally like, "Hey, want to be a pedophile?" Like they don't care. Um but they do attempt in some parts to speak in a foreign language. Um and they use food being like, "Hey, I'd like a pizza." They do pizza.

11:09 They said pizza, hot dog, burger. And this guy, I think it was Dr. Peteria, who was like, "I'd like a hot dog with no bun." Like yucky, yucky, yucky. Um I'm very new to and also like it's hard I think to discern from the files like what is just like was a submitted tip from the public and what is like a verified claim. So you do have to be careful. So like I'm just looking at actual emails like on TikTok by the way. I'm not like reading the files. Um and this one particular girl who like ended up in a treatment center and she was like forced to have babies and she was like Galain's girl. Like oh my god [ __ ] Galain. Like I forgot about the Epstein saga. You know it was like so many years ago but it's really upsetting. Like it's not I'm not having fun.

11:48 That's really upsetting. I feel like I was like, "Oh yeah, let's get them." And now it's like I'm upset.

11:53 Yeah. Like I was just in it for the celebrity and like all I got was Peter so far. Like I didn't even know him.

11:59 Yeah. But there's there'll be more. But it's also confusing. There are so many names of people like so and so is named

12:03 and they keep saying like inclusion does not indicate involvement. Like they keep saying that similar how like anybody who's ever had a picture Cal Radwell like her pictures with Galain like that doesn't mean she was going to the island. Um, so like I think you have to be it's not fair

12:19 because someone's named it doesn't mean what like Matt Ziggler is not involved,

12:24 right? But like yucky yuck. Well, thanks. Yeah, sorry. My morning was ruined, so I just thought like I had to ruin everyone else's.

12:31 Okay, that's really mature. Yeah, that's a mature way to feel. I'm a very mature woman, so that makes sense.

12:38 Um, shall we get into the stories? Yes. Where we do have our pulse on the pulse though. It's a little poll around polls.

12:43 The pulse on me is questionable. I couldn't find it. But my pulse on these stories is not questionable because I know everything.

12:48 Without further ado, do doo doo. Here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

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17:14 Our first story, the search for Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthri's mom, continues. And an odd twist, TMZ received an alleged ransom note for Savannah Guthri's mom, Nancy, demanding millions in Bitcoin. Police are taking all tips very seriously, including this one. The

17:28 And the Bitcoin account was real, like Yeah. So, it could be real. The amount is in the millions. It's a substantial amount of money, and TMZ reports it has received an alleged ransom note demanding payment for the release of Nancy Guthrie.

17:40 Yes. I believe also another local news station. So now two news outlets. It's giving amateur by the way. Like I don't know why it's giving like this is like your first ransom. You're sending it to TMZ. Like I don't know.

17:52 I I don't get the connection. Well, now I feel like and this was I think a theory at first. Like was this random or is it because her, you know, daughter is very famous? And so I feel like sending it to TMZ is sort of a confirmation that this person targeted Savannah Guthri's mother, not just like an old woman. You know, it's giving like, "I know you have a wealthy daughter. Let me see what I can squeeze out of you." I'm really worried about her medication.

18:13 Yeah. Like it seems like when someone is being held for ransom, like they're not trying to hurt the person, per se. It's not like, you know, they want to kill them. They just want money, so they're holding them hostage, if you will. But the whole medication throws like a a kind of complicated spin on it. And I could see this person like panicking, like dropping them off at a hospital, you know? Yeah.

18:32 Like they didn't set out to kill this woman, but she's an elderly woman who needs her medication. Perhaps

18:36 they say she needs it every 24 hours and I I doubt they said on their way out. Do you have any medication you might need?

18:41 She also disconnected from her pacemaker. Oh no. Why with the pacemaker do you need to be near like a

18:47 I don't know how it works, but like it stopped tracking her at a certain time. So

18:51 Oh [ __ ] Yeah. Maybe it just like didn't connect to like the Apple Watch or like if she didn't have it on her.

18:57 But you is there like a monitor that comes with it? But maybe but she's still wearing it.

19:01 Oh, I didn't hear about the pacemaker. That's so scary. That's what I had heard. What a just horrifying story. Like continues to get worse.

19:07 Yeah. And as which, you know, with all abductions, the more time that passes without any sort of lead.

19:14 But I I I feel hopeful that they have leads that they're not sharing. I don't know why I feel that way, but I feel like they're playing very close to the right because the person's watching the news

19:23 and I feel like sometimes when they have no leads, like they're like, "Anyone please send us anything you have." I remember like with the the Brown University shooter and everyone sending their like ring cabinets. They didn't really have anything,

19:36 right? You get an influx of information which also can be like distracting. Yeah. I I think they want information but I feel like they have some stuff.

19:43 God, I hope so. That's literally just a feeling. Just a vibe. Just Yeah. I don't know. It's really sad.

19:48 Oh my god. It's so terrible. It's so terrible. Uh thinking of her and her siblings were seen like leaving the area and it's just a nightmare. It's a nightmare.

19:58 Mhm. A living nightmare. Um, we'll keep you posted and hopefully we have better news,

20:02 more updates. There really haven't been. Yeah. But I don't know. The TMZ thing is making me like suspicious. Obviously suspicious situation, but you know what I mean. You know what I mean?

20:12 Yeah. Our next story is a story for Claudia. Um, that Wait, you you've seen it. I You knew it was happening. But for me,

20:20 it's for you because ta Travis Kelce choke that Taylor Swift is gonna kill him over this fumble. So Travy was recording his podcast New Heights with his brother Jay face. And um

20:33 Travy and Jes like that. I didn't realize you knew them like that. Yeah, you know I like nicknames.

20:39 Yeah, Trav a little I like Jay's face. Um and as they're recording he's like tipping the seat backwards and it made a loud crack. Yeah, he broke the chair.

20:49 He broke the chair in Taylor's house. He said, "Taylor's going to kill me." Jason was like, "Oh [ __ ] are you all right?" And Chavi was like, "We're good."

20:56 I told you guys, like her aesthetic and his physical build, like it's a mismatch. And I'm glad that she's decided to redesign, we know, her um Rhode Island mansion. I hope some permits have been taken out in all of her homes. Like, this is not

21:10 like restructure the foundation. This is not an ordinary man. And also, I get the vibe that like just based on his reaction that like this is not the first time it's happened because he's like, "Oh, Taylor's going to kill me." Like, "Oh, Travis breaking chairs again." It's a serious issue. And I tried to warn them about it like a year ago.

21:27 Well, I feel like she definitely has all this like antique doll furniture, right? And it's like, you don't need to swap it all out at first. Like, let's break it.

21:35 I don't know. Travis like doesn't want to feel like a stranger in his own home. He should be able to sit in any chair.

21:39 Yes. But like what do you're going to get rid of them sort of prematurely? Let's live in them like and when they break we'll get new.

21:48 I just don't know why we have to wait for something bad to happen. Like Travis could get hurt. First of all, he's a professional athlete. You know how they say like professional athletes should not be doing like snowboarding or skateboarding in the offseason because it could create an injury that affects him during the season. It's kind of if he's still going to continue to play like living in her like sort of antique home is a career hazard for him and I do think that they need to go to Raymore and Flanigan.

22:10 Also, he doesn't seem bashful in any way. But I have to imagine that breaking a chair is the most humiliating experience an individual can have. It's now she's getting into my clans's casino. The scene in Shallow Hal um where he goes to complain um and he like can't understand why Gwennneth Paltro has broken this like steel chair. Um yeah, I'm trying to think of a chair as it is. As a person who's always struggled with my weight, I have to tell you and I think every person who's ever like felt uncomfortable in their body will tell you like

22:42 it is something we're constantly thinking of. However, for Travis, like I don't think he's uncomfortable in his body. Like I don't think any part of him would be embarrassed by breaking a chair. It's probably like a flex point of pride. It's

22:51 I'm too big for the chair. Yeah, me and my big shoulder. Yeah, a thousand%. But may a broken chair never find me.

22:59 No. No. I am I need to like buy a spell from a witch on Etsy. Like keep broken furniture away from me. I don't know if there is a more horrifying thing that could happen to you in public. I'm trying to think. I feel like it's happened to Ben. And it's obviously different for boys and girls

23:17 for sure. And Ben is not like easily embarrassed. No. But like in my line of work, I find that I'm always like being put in director's chairs which just don't give me a lot of confidence cuz they're made with like a thin piece of fabric and like two wood parcels.

23:31 If you broke that, you're human. Yes, of course. But anytime I go to an event and it's like it's like a speaking gig or whatever and they like have you on a director's chair, I think I almost always I'm like, do we have other chairs?

23:42 No. And they're not it's not a flattering chair. I just don't like it. You can't really cross your legs so great because you don't have like the support of

23:50 shorties. Yeah. Um, so just Travis out here living every girl's nightmare. Mhm.

23:55 And I'm sorry that that happened to you. Yeah. But I hope that you guys get like new Pargy furniture, maybe a little restoration hardware

24:02 and maybe you and Taylor can use this as an opportunity to watch Shallow Hal cuz I think you guys would like it

24:07 and redecorate of course in a way that speaks to both of your sensibilities and size. Yeah, there is a happy

24:14 size and sensibility. They need to go like a big and tall furniture store. Yeah.

24:20 Well, you could I'm sure there's beautiful things. Restoration Hardware. Restoration Hardware is the solution that they're looking for. Everything from Restoration Hardware.

24:27 Cloud couch. Travy would love it. I don't know what I've heard about the cloud couch. And when I go to people's houses, I'm like, "Oh, you paid $20,000 for this couch." It gets so lumpy and like it's meant to be relaxed, but it's very quickly because

24:37 it doesn't present nicely. Like when you it's hard to set the room with a cloud couch cuz it always looks unmade,

24:43 right? So if you also have like an enormous man lounging on the couch there quite a bit and his friends and his big friends

24:49 like and just like leaving, you know, tushy imprints. Yeah. For lack of a better term.

24:57 Yeah. You're going to be fluffing those pillows, those um cushions all day long. Nobody wants that job.

25:03 Yeah. The cloud couch is a mirage. And I think wealthy people tried to convince us that it was cool. And I'm glad that I never fell victim to the cloud couch.

25:09 I feel like there's a time and place for it. Okay. In a media room. Oh, like in a theater room almost.

25:15 Yeah. In a theater room that doesn't get used a lot. Yeah. But I also feel like

25:19 if I walk into your house and you have a cloud couch, I can tell based on the state of your couch how much time you spend laying on the couch. And then it's like not only do I have a messy couch, I also like know people like I people know I lay around a lot.

25:30 Well, I feel like when you're like in your 20s and like you have an apartment, like if you had a cloud couch, that was such a sle.

25:36 It was. And and I feel like you don't spend that much time like on your couch and it's just like your one or two people. You don't have a whole family. Like I feel like that's nice. Like if you're getting a cloud couch in your like young adult apartment sleigh all day,

25:48 but if you're a young adult with a cloud couch, like your parents obviously bought it for you and then I just think you're like a spoiled brat.

25:54 Oh, well maybe a dupe or something. Yeah, there was the IKEA dupe and Bob's Discount Furniture had a very good dupe I remember people talking about.

26:00 And then we also stayed in the house in the Hamptons that had a cloud couch and we had an amazing experience. Did we podcast from it?

26:06 Not the couch. It wasn't living. We watched the Olympics. Yes. You remember? Yes. Yes. Yes.

26:13 And it was fantastic. Yes. And we laid on it quite a bit. So if I'm a if I'm a homeowner who's renting out my home, I'm not getting a cloud couch because it's going to look worse for the wear if we're showing up.

26:22 But we enjoyed it. We did deep. And I would like a cloud couch for free. Oh, okay. For free. Yeah. I would also like a jet for free.

26:31 For free. if we're just saying things, you know. Are you ready for our next story?

26:38 I am. Nicola Peltz's dad not I saw I have so many thoughts. Is breaking his silence on the Beckham family feud. So,

26:46 he's not really breaking his silence. I just want to say, you know, he spoke on it.

26:49 I know, but breaking your silence implies that like you're speaking on something and it's your choice. I felt like it was actually hella inappropriate and I think the Wall Street Journal interviewer knew it as well because she was like skating around the issue and she like looked nervous because she was asking an inappropriate question in a business summit. Mhm. So, he participated in the Q&A session with Wall Street Journal Invest Live in West Palm Beach and he was asked about Nicola. To which he quipped,

27:12 well, he wasn't even asked like she was having such a hard time getting the question out that he eventually like saved her and was like, "Yes, my daughter."

27:18 He said, "Has my family been in the press lately? I haven't noticed at all." The interviewer was like, "You know, you're used to negotiating highstakes situations." Like, she was circling the train so bad. Like, he actually threw her a life rat. He was like, "Yeah, so has my family." Like made a joke cuz he she seriously was struggling so bad because it was I'm sorry. So inappropriate and I'm here for the tea, but it's inappropriate. A business summit.

27:42 But do you feel like she felt like she had to ask about it because it's the biggest story in the world that he's very adjacent to.

27:50 Yeah, he is adjacent to it, but he's really not a He is a major player, but not really in terms of like the front-facing people. We're talking about the Beckhams. We're talking about Nicola Brooklyn. We're talking about her family as sort of like in this like abstract kind of way. Um,

28:03 she could have very easily gotten away with not doing it just because I think it's inappropriate.

28:06 It would have been more professional to not do it. Anyone who was like mad at her for not asking the obvious question like could have just been like this is a Wall Street Journal business summit. He's like a

28:15 billionaire billionaire very successful businessman. Like it's offensive to really stray it into the gutters like this.

28:23 Now having said that I'm learning a lot about Nelson. Is that his name? Nelson. Yeah.

28:27 You don't meet a lot of Nelson's Mandela. Of course, he's like kind of the only one. And I feel like he did the name like so big that no one like I don't know anyone who's naming their kids Nelson.

28:38 No, you don't see a lot of kids name Nelson, but it's a it's a strong name. No, it is.

28:43 I feel like it's a successful name, you know. So, I didn't know much about him in like a personality sense. And I do feel like maybe she felt like she could ask the question because he is seems like this very affable nice guy.

28:56 Yeah. And he was like making a joke out of it and he basically said like, you know, I know my daughter, she's amazing and we love our son-in-law and we just want them to have like a very happy life and I always tell them like do everything you can to stay out of the press.

29:08 Yeah, that's what he said. He said, my advice is to stay the hell out of the press. Well, they didn't take that one.

29:12 He said my daughter and the Beckhams are a whole other story and that's not for coverage here today, but I'll tell you my daughter is great. My son-in-law Brooklyn is great and I look forward to them having a long happy marriage together.

29:24 I don't know if he could have answered the question more perfectly. Like now I'm left with such a wonderful like this is quite a man, you know,

29:32 Nelson. My impression is overwhelmingly positive. Um, and I'm definitely like thinking, you know, a man like that has to be raised like an amazing daughter. You know what I mean? Like although I could see also a guy like that like making a soil brat like loving stuff.

29:46 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But whatever. I feel like the Peltz's huge check in their column just based on this answer. I think he might have also been caught off guard. So like this was just his,

29:56 you know, on the whim response and it was it was amazing. I have to imagine he thought about the fact that he's doing press like that someone would ask him about it. So I feel like

30:06 this isn't press. This would have gotten literally no coverage. It was a business event.

30:09 Yeah. Uh I feel like that's what we said though. It seems like both families are really great families.

30:14 Like stable and grounded. Yeah. They both have parents who are married, which is insane.

30:19 Loving. Yeah. Wealthy. So, I mean, seems like a Nicola and Brooklyn self sort of thing.

30:27 It kind of does. Like, they both And this is again just based on vibes, like they both seem genuinely insufferable.

30:34 Mhm. And that's sort of like not their parents' fault. No. I think the the Pelt's parents and the Beckham parents just kind of need to hang out.

30:41 Yeah. And talk [ __ ] They probably have more in common than they think. I think so. I because it's never it's not been said that it's like

30:49 they don't like them parents versus parents that it's like Nicola and Victoria Mhm.

30:55 and Brooklyn Brooklyn and his parents. Yeah. Are you ready for our fourth story that's going to lead into our first TV recap?

31:01 Yes. Because um actually no like let's just do TV. So I'm not ready. You ready?

31:07 I think like this next section you should be calling Mike TV and it's brought Mike. It's from Willy Wonka. I don't know. It

31:16 that boy. He was obsessed with the people in him. Literally me. Like he definitely in this day and age like would have a podcast like a TV recap podcast

31:24 for sure. He'd slay. He grew up to be Nick Vile. I was just thinking that. But then I'm like we mentioned Nick Vile twice on this podcast today. Is that like so weird?

31:33 No. Especially because I'm like involved. Yeah. Should we talk about it? Sure. Okay. Jackie, this clip and I know Jackie hadn't seen it because this clip came across my Tik

31:41 Tok that like there's kind of like beef. I don't know if there's beef. I have to do a little bit more contus to admit that there's beef cuz I don't I don't know anything about the situation. You just sent me a clip of Natalie talking about when she was on the toast,

31:54 right? And she was kind of like alluding to having like an uncomfortable conversation with you

31:58 and she was like seemingly upset about how you addressed her age gap. Um, and then I found the clips. think shout out to the girl who posted it. Um, and not only did you not ask her like she offered it up so she recounted

32:12 and also I always like I feel like the first thing people think about them is age gap. I never remember it. So I don't know if I learned about the age gap while she was sitting here or I had only recently learned about it. But like I definitely didn't have a harsh reaction to it because I don't in my heart of hearts I don't feel that way. Like I feel like she they're

32:29 they're beyond that. They're beyond Yeah. Like I don't see them as an age guy couple. So I Yeah, I don't feel

32:34 So she went on her podcast after coming on the toast and like recounted the conversation and she did recount it incorrectly cuz then I watched the clip and that's not what happened.

32:41 I guess that's why she said I was asking her to do fast math cuz like she said she met Nick when she was whatever age and I was like oh so how old was Nick so she had to do the math on the spot and maybe the math didn't math

32:50 and no and like I think she was upset she had to do the math like that was a viable

32:52 because I could have done the math cuz I think she said it was simple math. It's 21 plus 18 which how dumb are you?

32:59 Is that simple? 39. Okay. I think she was calling you dumb. I You know what? I'm not taking the bait. Like I had such a great experience with her.

33:06 You did. You loved her. I We've had such a good relationship with Nick for so many years. I'm Unless she like text me to my face, I don't like you. Like I have no

33:15 misunderstanding. Yeah. I really And I'm sorry if she came away feeling that way cuz in because like I said, that's not how I feel.

33:22 And that's also not how it was. I think they have like a beautiful relationship and a beautiful family and they're meant to be.

33:26 I watch the clip so that's also just not how it went down. So And I think they're meant to be. I wouldn't question meant to be.

33:31 Okay. So, I'm not taking the bait. I kind of am. And who's who's pitting us against each other? Do you feel like it's the internet?

33:41 Well, no. I just saw this clip or the clip of her I saw the clip of her like like saying she doesn't like me in that.

33:45 No. Like rewriting history a little like about her and you know, you can't help how you feel when you walk away from a conversation. So, like she's totally valid in that, but then to go on her podcast and like recount it like we saw the clip. That's not what happened.

33:55 Yeah. So, I maybe I just feel fiercely defensive of my Maybe you do. Maybe you do, but I'm I'm just not internet enough for this.

34:03 I know. I am great. So, yeah. Funny that we spoke about them a number of times today.

34:08 Yeah, they're definitely on the mind cuz I sent you the clip. Now, I also don't know if that clip is old.

34:13 When you sent me that clip, my bra I was like, "What am I watching?" It was someone is talking about me. I I could not compute and it was like a very short clip like no context. I'm like, "What?"

34:25 Yeah. Right. What? Yeah. So, I still don't understand. I don't really either. And I'm also not one to pile on. I feel like they're getting like hate right now. And like I'm never one to be like, "Yeah, I hate you, too." So, like, seriously, sending love.

34:39 Sending love. I had a great experience. So, if she and like Nick like we've come too far to go home now with Nick File.

34:45 No, nothing can come between us. No, we are thick as thieves. Okay. Mic TV is brought to you by

34:52 Oh, that's how we got here. That's such a niche reference. Like, I don't know. And it's rare that you know like a cultural reference and like it sticks with you that I don't know.

35:02 Whenever I say TV, I like always think of Mike TV. Oh, was that his name? Yeah.

35:09 Sounds a little familiar. Yeah. He was like the fourth one. He got like sucked into

35:12 No, I know him. He looked like the brother from Lizzie McGuire. He had like spiky hair.

35:15 He wanted to be like in the TV. Yeah. No. And he did end up in the TV. Yeah. And he couldn't get out.

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39:27 Thank you, Turd Main. You're welcome. Our next story, In the City, season 1 teaser video dropped at Bravo. So, last night was the season 10 Summerhouse premiere and they also shared a teaser for the upcoming spin-off in the city. So, we've talked a lot about this show. We've heard a lot. Everyone has sort of speculated it's like the valley of the north of the northeast. And yes, they posted a teaser video in the city. It follows Kyle, Amanda, and Lindsay into fall. You know, they transition Kyle from summer.

39:56 That's Sierra. It's just the three of them at this moment. I don't think that's the whole cast, but like

40:01 they're sprinkling breadcrumbs. I don't know if Sierra's a part of it because this show really is meant to be like the valley of the East Coast where we see people go onto the next phase of life and they can mature out of Summerhouse. It was built for Lindsay Hubard in this era of her life. Whereas other cast members can stay on Summer House. This isn't like Summerhouse continued. It's, you know,

40:21 you could do both. It's the Beverly Hills to Vanderpump Rules pipeline. We're sending you on your way.

40:25 I have actually high hopes for the show cuz I feel like even watching last night's premiere,

40:31 so much has changed, but like The House hasn't. And I actually think for someone like Amanda, for someone like Lindsay, like in the city is perfect cuz sometimes like them going out to the Hamptons every weekend and staying in the share house like makes no sense. Yeah. Um, and I feel like last night, you know, we have all these new cast members and I feel like some of the OGs like Sierra and Amanda like are making such a concerted effort cuz they're not acting like how they normally act on the first day of summer where they're just very set in their ways and they kind of ignore the new girls and leave them to like hang out with Lindsay. Um, they're being so friendly, picking them up and like, you know, it's kind of weird. It's like, why are you acting so different?

41:08 And it's like because they have been forced to shift a little bit and it feels a little forced and I think the city show might be a better fit for just who they like everyone likes them how they are.

41:18 Yeah. And it doesn't necessarily always work in the Hampton. So just be yourself in the city. Like I do think that there's real potential with that show.

41:24 Yeah. And I feel like even Amanda and Sierra not going out the first night, it sort of signals like the

41:29 difference the divide in the house of like people who are past doing all of this and people who are still doing all of it. But did they go out or did they take no cameras? Like it was so confusing.

41:39 Take cameras. Usually we see them getting in the car. I guess I think they went out

41:43 and then it was 2 a.m. Like it was confusing. I think that they went out because they said they were going out

41:48 and sometimes they do like phone videos. Yeah. I might have like looked away for a second. So I don't know. But I I I thought that they went out.

41:54 They need to like fix that. They need to be going out with cameras like the Jersey Shore. Like Yeah.

41:59 It's that's where everything happens. Yeah. But I think that now people, you know, if they're stay the bed bugs, bed bugging, it's like, okay, well, there's a path for the bed bugs, right?

42:10 And this could be their last summer in the house, and that's fine, but they are also trying to like be in the mix with the new girls and the new cast members. Also, the whole storyline of last night and what will be the season probably is like Kyle and Amanda,

42:23 right? And is anyone else not to be like a conspiracy theorist? I feel like it's very clear that they are not together like

42:31 in this right so on what happens live she said that they separated in October like so right after the summer before BravoCon um and I just feel like at this point they are already like decidedly not together and I think they're both really committed to the show.

42:44 I think if they were decidedly not together they would have been nicer to each other. I think that they are so like if they were putting on an act like I think the way that they're

42:53 so uncomfortable acting in front of people in front of cameras the way they're talking to each other is not a good look.

42:59 Even though I think with hindsight if you go watch like the last couple of seasons the way they talk to each other the way they interact she's up at 4 in the morning. He's not home yet. Like

43:07 it's funny how now watching it knowing they're separated it all looks like writing on the wall. Whereas I was thinking about it saying this season. No, but this is like a new level. They they have nothing at the table. Kind word to each other.

43:19 The fighting at the table. The fighting at the table. Every conversation that each of them is involved in. I really do think this is like where the marriage is ending. I don't they don't seem like they want to work on it. But I do think it is real because I think if they were pretending they would have a little bit more manners towards each other. The dejing thing is so crazy.

43:38 Yeah. And I think people online speculated that that was like a huge reason for the breakup. And I was thinking like, yeah, it's crazy, but like this is who he is. This is who he's always been. People were putting so much stock in him going on tour as a DJ and how like that was her final straw. And I was like, I don't know. I think it's like a little too simple. But I think that the DJing is the the nail in the coffin.

43:57 Well, I don't know necessarily that the DJ ended the marriage. I think the marriage was ending and so he went to DJ because he didn't want to be home all the time. And so that it was like a symptom,

44:08 not the cause. And what we talked about, but then that symptom caused other symptoms. We talked about how like the prenup them not having a prenup lover boy and I think you had said like you know I could see her just having foregone her half of it just to get out like it's and how it's really not

44:25 as valuable as it once was. And on what happens live last night she kind of confirmed that cuz she was you know she said she said she didn't have a prenup and she said everyone no matter what marriage you're in like you need a prenup like just do it. Um

44:35 she said well they'll be okay but because they're they really get along very well. Um, but Andy was like, "But you're entitled to that, you know, piece of Lover Boy." And she was like, "Well, yeah, maybe, but like it's his thing. He has lived and died. Like, he literally gave up our marriage for it, so I'm not taking it." And I think it's very easy to say that cuz I do think the brand is presently worth a lot less than maybe it was at its peak.

44:58 And I think Lover Boy just caused her so much strife and drama. It's like, "Take it, be gone with it. I don't want to be a part of it." Then we have to what? Work together again. Like just it's a cleaner break. She should get like 5%. just for having been there.

45:09 So, based on my limited knowledge and just like people telling me things behind the scenes, I believe that Lever Boy, and I think this is a storyline on In the City, I think Kyle is in major financial distress. Like, I think he took out a lot of personal loans that he cannot. Um, so I don't think there's just 5% to throw around. I think it's like, and that's why I think it was easy for her to walk away being like, "This is a mess." Yes, maybe at one point, like 5 years ago, they were on track to like be a company that was going to sell to like Anna Zerbush for $100 million.

45:37 Um I don't think that's the case. I don't think but he never took investors, right? So the whole point is he has 100%. So he has 5% of his

45:44 I do believe at one point he did take on investment because I was just reading this article about how like Bravo is the new incubator and there was um there is seed money um in the very beginning.

45:56 Okay. Yeah. Um, also I think the DJing thing is an extension of lover boy marketing because when she said that, you know, some people they DJ and then they go straight home to their families. He stays back. He talks to the owners. I think he's selling Lover Boy into all of these places. I think that like it has been an engine for like Lover Boy getting into bars and restaurants and clubs. And it's not just like I love music and I think he enjoys DJing, but it's also more for Lover Boy.

46:27 No, for sure. But I think what she's saying is like yes, he can go DJ and have it be for Lover Boy and sell into these places. He doesn't need to be out all night. There are people who have successful jobs in night life and happy home lives. Like, but every person I know who works in nightife is sober, um, has multiple children, a very happy marriage. In order to be successful in night life, like you can't be every night

46:48 uh out till the break of dawn. That's sort of the issue. I don't even think her issue is so much as him doing these events. Like he's always done events for lover boy.

46:56 But then the problem is also like he doesn't want to go home and and she does like so say he goes home. Say he came home every weekend.

47:02 It's a fight. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he's there's a reason he's not going home. They're not like happy together. And at this point they're not they've given up. They're not working towards being better. But we've seen them every year, you know, working towards it. We're going to try this summer. And then after the summer, they say they're better and they've been working on things. And at this point, they both thrown in the towel. She will flirt with anyone who is and everybody wants to flirt with her. And this guy Ben, what a cutie.

47:28 Who reminds me of the chef Ben from um uh Blow Deck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um I I ship and it's like

47:35 and they talked about that on people being like, "You have a twinkle in your eye when you talk to him. Like, what happened at that wedding?" She was like, "No, nothing." Like,

47:42 yeah. The way she described the wedding was fine, but then she like gave a look to Sierra that made me feel like they're dating right now. That's just what it made me feel like.

47:50 Oh wow. Even though she said on Watch Live again, like she would literally never date someone on Bravo specifically on her show either. And he is on Bravo now.

47:59 Oh, okay. I So her bringing him is like her saying no, you know. Oh, okay. Well, she also said that she was asked like who did they think is going to date again first and she said I think me.

48:11 Yeah. I mean, yeah, I I feel but date like or have sex, you know, I think like be in a relationship.

48:18 Well, her because relationships are not for him clearly. Mhm. So, it's it's really um sad to watch. It's it's uncomfortable and I feel like it's going to be the entire season and then it's going to be all of In the City because In the City wrapped before Bravo. She said that they separated right before Bravo. So, I think that's how In the City ends is with them deciding to separate. So, that means that this is like four months of this. So old.

48:41 It is kind of It is kind of old in the City, which hasn't even premiered yet, is from October. I don't know.

48:47 Oh, I thought you meant like 4 months of like it's tea and whatever, but like at a certain point like we got it like

48:52 No, no, no. We're like watching things in real time with social media. Like I just feel like Hulu and all these they really raised the bar for turnaround times and like this just feels so ancient.

49:00 Yeah, I'm sure there'll be other story lines on In the City and other cast members and like Lindsay.

49:04 We need Lindsay. Oh my god, last night's episode was really boring. I'm sorry. Lindsay is such a personality hire. Yeah, she's not like dating. Who gives a [ __ ] Like she's so funny and I do feel like she is it's very authentic the way that she like interacts with the new people and something about last night like seeing these cast members who have like quite literally never made an effort with the new people like forcing it. I was just like who are you trying to fool?

49:24 Yeah, it's crazy that this is the job a million girls would kill for. And I feel like the two girls that they got the blonde girl Bailey, I can't believe they have another girl named Bailey after last season's Bailey. She definitely has more of a personality and like she might do well. The other girl was so quiet. Well, just it's episode one.

49:39 I know, but you have to come into I'm sorry. You have to come into these shows with Lexi.

49:43 I think people who come in too strong, like they want it too bad. They are trying too hard. It doesn't go well. I like a slow burn. I'm not I'm not judging either of them yet. I think but what I do like about them is that they have like they have good positive energy. They want to have fun. They want to meet people. I think they're like the right agent in the right place and they've got the right mindset. And so I'm I think it's trending positively.

50:08 They're acting like Lexi never existed. Like it was so crazy. Do you think she was fired or that she left? I think that she was not asked back and it actually made me really sad to think about because it's like she came onto the show and was just like swooped and like she was into Jesse but like he didn't give her a choice cuz he was going to be dating like he loved

50:25 the girls were just really awful to her and he like totally capitalized her time and her storyline and everything.

50:33 Even though I don't know why she wouldn't be asked back like she's exactly what they were looking for like young girl she was going out. She was doing in all the outfits like she has the background and he chewed her up and spat her out.

50:44 It's kind of terrible took his side. It It actually makes me really sad. Yeah. And I just feel like it can't be overstated how like in addition to him chewing up and spinning around like how the girls were not there for her one bit.

50:58 Yeah. And it was like kind of sad and painful to watch. And it's like she liked him back but it's as if she she didn't have a choice. He was so into her like he was going she had no other story line to follow. I know. It's like actually really sad.

51:10 It is really sad. When he was like sitting in bed with Sierra talking about like West like they didn't even bring up Lexi like your girlfriend from last summer who's in the house.

51:17 Yeah. Where where's our West meter now? Hours or hour? I mean like season one was like 10 tens across the board. Season two. Oh, after the reunion it was by zero.

51:28 I'm kind of indifferent. Then we got to like two three last season. Yeah. I feel like the harsher Sierra was with him, like the more I kind of felt bad for him cuz like his crime was breaking up with her, which like he is allowed to do. Um, so I feel like now that she's kind of cooled off, like I I actually just don't care anymore. Do you know what I mean?

51:44 Yeah. And now it's like their show like West and Jess. It is. It's actually crazy. Like they're doing press and I guess like a few people got plucked to gone Fallon and it's Lindsay Hubard as she should. She built the show brick by brick and west. Like it's crazy. Isn't that crazy?

51:59 Yeah. They did this clip. They were playing a game called Impostor with Jimmy Wes and Lindsay. And like let me tell you, I was cracking up like premium social media content. I watched it while I was getting ready this morning like chuckling. It was basically like two of them are a trader and one of them is a trader and the two like they don't know who the trader is. So they do word association with a topic and like the topic is beach. So like Jimmy goes sand and so you have to like pretend like you know what the topic is. I was cracking up.

52:24 Oh, that's funny. Yeah, I know. It was like really funny. We should play. Um, yeah. Yeah. Wes is poised to have a nice summer.

52:36 Yeah. He he he's also important to the life of the show. Like very affable. He He's the future. The new guy is his friend. He's funny. Like he's was very well liked with the exception of what happened after season two. Like he

52:51 had one of the best first seasons. He what's the word? Like he he paid the per he did his time.

52:58 Yeah, he's out of jail. Yeah, he's Yeah. And didn't he say that or that's like they said he's on probation. He was like it's better than jail.

53:04 Yeah. No, but he is. And like Yeah. In time in hindsight, like her big issue with him was that they broke up, which is devastating. Um and that he did a New York Times article about their breakup, which is just sort of like part of his job.

53:15 I think he did a New York Times article about his his himself and on the show. Yeah, it wasn't about the breakup. Sorry. Yeah. and and it was covered and she didn't like the way that it was spoken about.

53:30 So personally over it. Yeah. It's tabular assa. He is too much of a value ad to the show to for us to keep caring about this.

53:38 Yeah. He didn't do anything bad or wrong like Yeah. No, and it's it's time he navigated a breakup in the way that he thought was right.

53:47 Yeah. Time served. Yeah. And so, yeah, we'll see what the what the season holds in store. It really just seems to be about like the del dissolution of the marriage, but to me, like that episode, it's over.

53:58 Yeah. Not one kind moment. Yeah. Painful. The going to bed. Like just he walked into the house. It's drove separately.

54:06 Oh, that was weird. Yeah. That's what I mean when I say like the It's also forced. I really think that they they probably knew that it was they were going to eventually cuz they weren't trying to make it better. But I think that they would have

54:21 been more respectful to each other if they knew that it was over and like we're just putting on a show. The way that they talk now when she's like we talk very good. We can be friends. He made like a toast to her at the premiere party. Said nice things about her because the future is bright.

54:35 Yeah. Our fifth and final story, Tell Me Lies Recap. Yes. Okay. Felt a little repetitive this episode. I can't lie. Like nothing major except for Briggly.

54:46 Obsessed. Brig. Okay. I'm obsessed. I am too. However, I didn't love that their first kiss was like a musty morning after kiss.

54:55 Ben said it and I was thinking same thing. Her [ __ ] breath of course must have been so ranked. She slept on the floor of her teacher's house. Okay. She was out all day cuz it was a day party the day before drinking. I just know she smelled so bad. Yeah. That I couldn't romanticize it.

55:10 I didn't find it romantic. I was like, "You're not gonna kiss right now." Yeah. It would have been better if like when she woke up at the teacher's house, they showed her just like going to the bathroom, like rinsing her face,

55:19 freshing out, maybe rinsing some or like using some of Marian's creams. It would have been like a like a psychotic thing to do, but she would have been fresh as a daisy.

55:27 Oh, I love that. Um, it was a very upsetting episode for Lucy. Like that game. First of all, I hate that freshman. Like, girl, run for your [ __ ] life.

55:39 I know, but like no one can tell her anything. No, no one can tell her anything. And like

55:42 no one's even tried because Diana and Lucy, if they say something to her, like Steven,

55:46 they look like jealous. No, but like if Steven finds if she if they were successful in saying something to her, Steven would have his revenge with them. They can't do anything.

55:56 So, he didn't send the pictures to the school. He sent them to her dad, which like I'm relieved, honestly. Um because her dad, they'll work it out. like it's a temporary

56:05 Yeah, it's a temporary thing. Um like just so many upsetting the whole I'm not really understanding the Alex thing.

56:16 Which part? The end. Okay. So like this whole time he's been like a good guy. Like

56:20 he's been a good guy. He he sees her as like a wounded burden. So he doesn't want to like you know be rough with her. He wants to take care of her. I think he's like a caretaker the way he took care of Bri growing up from his childhood and everything. But like

56:31 there's a dark side of him. No, I just think that he is moving on from like seeing her in that way, which is what she wanted.

56:42 Okay. But I was getting the vibe that like she sees in him like a dark side where he likes the like rough and tumble like I don't know,

56:49 but like not but in a way like what he said like not if it's coming from a place of trauma. He didn't want to do it when he thought it was like she was coming from a place of trauma.

56:57 And how does he see how does he not see that it is coming from a place of trauma? Because she's sitting on the bed crying. She's like crying for other reasons. She's not crying because of Chris, you know? He thinks she's crying

57:08 because of Chris. She's crying because she made that video. Like, it's like separate things. And she's doing it. It's not a I guess it ultimately is trauma, not the trauma he thinks, but like she wants to like punish herself for the bad things that she's done.

57:21 It's a lot. I'm not going to like pretend to understand all of it, but I I I feel like I don't think he's like a bad guy at all. I think he's actually a good guy. And I think like people are having conversations about like the conversation between Diana and

57:36 Lucy. Lucy, thank you. I was gonna say Lisa. I'm like what the hell is her name? Um about like how to handle Steven and like hers is like yeah uh Diana's is very like she's protecting herself but yeah she's not like you know getting justice and he's not going to be put but it's like a way to live versus Lucy was like well this is injustice and we have to fix it. Like

57:53 yeah in an ideal world sure but like you guys have to coexist and you have to live. So, like Diana's method is the more effective one.

57:59 Yeah. I think Diana's method is the only way through. He's graduating soon. Hopefully, we could all move on. And you just don't want to

58:09 set him off. And look, at the wedding, Diana's the one who has successfully escaped his grasp. She's moved on. She seems to be a successful lawyer. She's in a relationship with Pipa, whereas Lucy is still having sex with him and playing whatever games that they play.

58:25 Yeah. Very upsetting. Yeah, it was very upsetting. The party like the way Lucy was just like skulking around like just nervous at every corner.

58:35 It also like like you said, it doesn't occur to these people like Lucy specifically that she can transfer and again it would solve all of her problems. She also can start hanging out with a different group of friends.

58:42 Yeah, she is considering study abroad which is good, but that we haven't heard back from

58:46 that will be next semester and Steven is leaving so not really necessary or like if Steven's going to a party like don't go. She doesn't actively avoid him and it's, you know, not fair to blame her cuz he's the evil one, but like she seems like she wants to get away from him in some instances, but she doesn't take any active steps to doing that.

59:04 Yeah. I feel like last season she did. She was like being better. She was And then he got his grips in her again.

59:10 Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't fully under I guess that's just like, you know, the toxic cycle,

59:17 right? But he's so awful. Yeah. It's really crazy. That game was crazy. But anyways, we have our Briggly.

59:24 Oh, by the way, obsessed with that game. Like when you're not like in a crazy group of people, we should play. That sounds so fun.

59:30 I would never take the I would just be like "Okay obviously." And I was wanted to shake Lucy.

59:36 Don't [ __ ] drink. Yeah. That's a way to protect yourself. Like you want to rise above. Great. So they literally gave you away.

59:43 Yeah. And what was her question? Who hates himself the most? Oh, yeah. From Evan.

59:48 Who was [ __ ] writing these questions? Obviously Steven wrote a few. Yeah. Yeah. And and she wanted an interesting game. So she the the girl

59:55 the girl. Yeah. She's wild. It was giving housewives. Like who plays a game like that?

1:00:00 Yeah. I'm I feel like they'll play it on housewives. I never heard of this game before, but it's so housewives coded.

1:00:05 Yeah. I would not drink. I don't care what you guys think of me. Seriously, you're all lowife losers. Um you're going nowhere in life. I'm all set. TTL TTFN Tata for now. Um, so yeah, that's tell me

1:00:21 this is episode eight. So like what is their 10? Oh, so this was the story that um Bri and the actor who plays

1:00:30 Oh, Evan was being a real prick. Yeah. I feel like that was very inongruous with the guy that we know. Like he really loves Bri. I feel his love is really genuine and this sort of groundbreaking moment him being like, "Well, why don't you tell me like

1:00:42 Yeah. And I think it comes from like him like being like so loving and like possessive of her where it's like he wants to be the number one person. You would think he would be on his best behavior because he just got her back and like whatever you want Bri. Yeah.

1:00:53 But yeah, he's he's acting a little in Congress. I would agree. It was confusing.

1:00:56 Yeah. It was just like they needed him to conveniently become the villain. Well, they said that Bri said that the finale is going to blow up the internet.

1:01:04 Really? Is it this a series finale? No, I don't think there's one more season. Uh

1:01:10 it feels like there's too many loose ends. Yeah. And like it's the middle of the second se semester of their sophomore year. Like they could do more.

1:01:18 They have more. The younger girls have more. But once the boys graduate, I think it's over.

1:01:23 Well, that's this semester. There's one more semester. Seme. Yeah, it's the spring. How can we do one more?

1:01:28 They just came back from Christmas season. They just come back from Christmas. What time of year is it? Like

1:01:33 I think it's like Feb Oh, Valentine's Day, right? Oh, so they're only like halfway through a couple weeks away from the finale.

1:01:40 They still have spring break. Yeah. I feel like they could eat one out. And who would not

1:01:45 go do another season of such a successful show? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But after Alan Cummings saying that like the Traitors Banquet was the biggest literally

1:01:54 traumatized and it was like fine. Um I'm not believing Bri. I I thought I was like, you know, shrewd and jaded and I completely fell for that. So, we'll see if this really blows up the internet.

1:02:09 I'm going to need another Briggly kiss. That's not disgusting. Just putting that out there, please. And thanks.

1:02:15 It would have been like sweeter to hug in that moment. Of course. And just sort of like

1:02:20 they've come to terms like we're stopping fighting each other. Like, let's just

1:02:23 we know and you're here for me. It's not just about like we'll get to the kiss, you know, but right now you're just here for me.

1:02:29 Yeah. Especially cuz it was this traumatizing evening for her with like her teacher.

1:02:33 Yeah. It was not like sexy or cute. People are being like, "We got her hashtag Briggley cuz I went on Twitter after to see what people were saying and I'm like we got breath." Like I don't know what you guys just saw. I saw breath.

1:02:48 You had the same reaction. Me and Ben had a whole conversation about it actually cuz he was shocked. That's so us. I don't know why you would I would think that like that you would

1:03:00 but it would have escaped me. Yeah. Like it's of course my first thought, you know, I'm obsessed with breath.

1:03:05 Yeah. And it's like everyone's waiting for this kiss and like that's yucky on the soup outside of her teacher's house where she just spent the night in her gothic makeup

1:03:13 and the musty breath nature of the whole affair. Well, that's our show you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast Monday morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know from Monday through Friday and YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast and air podcast on Spotify radio all the places and podcast beautiful and wickedly down to we love you so much. Happy Wednesday by the way. Um and we'll see you tomorrow for I guess that would make it Thursday.

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Jackson Claude (Host), Claudia (Guest).

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On February 4th, 2026, the hosts discuss their excitement for midweek entertainment, sharing insights on recent TV episodes, including the season premiere of "Summerhouse" and a recap of "Tommy Lies." They highlight their dynamic energy and the unpredictability of their content, emphasizing the balance between being in tune with current trends and their unique, playful take on the day’s offerings.

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