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The Accidental Matriarch: Friday, January 30th, 2026

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "The Accidental Matriarch: Friday, January 30th, 2026", an episode of The Toast published January 30, 2026 (1 h 6 min, about 16,284 words). It mentions 14 people, works and ideas, including Lisa Rena, Colton Underwood, Patreon, Jam Jam, Queen Corgi.

What this episode is about

This content highlights the engaging banter between hosts Jackson and Jacqui as they discuss their loyal fanbase and the popularity of their content, including a special episode on Patreon focusing on one host's experience with "The Masked Singer." They emphasize the importance of their subscription service for exclusive episodes, which includes various segments and behind-the-scenes insights related to their show.

Key takeaways

  • Botox and filler: proof beauty is a battlefield where every injection counts, but not all smiles are gummy.
  • Subscription services like Patreon thrive on loyal fans who want exclusives—love your podcast? Pay to keep it alive!
  • Queen Corgi's press tour proves that even dogs have to hustle; fame truly is a fur-ocious game.
  • Reality TV drama highlights: sometimes the best episodes are the ones with the least miserable characters—how refreshing!
  • In the world of revenge porn, the only thing worse than a bad breakup is the legal ramifications—watch out, Steven!

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Patreon, Queen Corgi, Jackson Claude, Tell Me Lies
  2. – 20:00: Home Chef, Gold Bond Healing Hydrating Lotion, Patreon
  3. – 30:00: Corey Booker, Kendall Jenner, Uber Eats
  4. – 50:00: Weight Watchers, Lisa Rena, Colton Underwood, Jam Jam
  5. – 1:00:00: Lisa Rena, Colton Underwood, Jam Jam, Tell Me Lies
  6. – 1:05:59: Patreon, Queen Corgi

Notable quotes from "The Accidental Matriarch: Friday, January 30th, 2026"

  • She's really opening up, but not as much as I plan on opening up right after today's episode. We're doing like a full in-depth episode on my entire experience on the Mass…
    about Patreon · at
  • Today's episode is brought to you by Gold Bond Healing Hydrating Lotion.
    about Gold Bond Healing Hydrating Lotion · at
  • Resolutions is to cook more, to save money, to order in less, to eat healthier, Home Chef is a great option for all those resolutions. It is rated number one by users of other…
    about Home Chef · at
  • There's been like more roll out. She went on Jimmy Kimmel and like facetimed that was Fallon.
    about Kendall Jenner · at
  • So it seems like it's part of the campaign cuz he also posted a story in support of fanatics. So it seems like he's in the fanatics family and they're like bantering and getting paid to.
    about Corey Booker · at
  • No. Is it our fourth story that's going to be Traers Recap that's brought to you by Weight Watchers?
    about Weight Watchers · at
  • This and I'm a housewife and if you don't survive housewives and can't survive the round table. She literally dug her own grave at the round table by giving nothing. People…
    about Lisa Rena · at
  • Yes. And I just want to say I don't think it's fair that he was taken away like that and that he got to speak and say who killed him.
    about Jam Jam · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Lisa Rena — Person · Referenced reality-TV contestant (The Traitors) and RHOBH alum · 4 mentions · first at
    Central to the Traitors recap: discussed as a Traitor who is voted out, with commentary on her gameplay and emotions tied to her RHOBH exit.
  • Colton Underwood — Person · Referenced reality-TV contestant (The Traitors) and key strategist · 4 mentions · first at
    Discussed as the person who first clocked Lisa and whose theories/alliances drive the roundtable dynamics; also referenced in a prior episode comparison.
    Wait, she did that after people were on to her. Like she flipped the switch so obviously like Colton pointed out that she was being quiet to everyone. So she started being…
  • Jam Jam — Person · Referenced reality-TV contestant (The Traitors) and comedic highlight · 4 mentions · first at
    Key moment in Traitors recap: his dramatic 'murder in plain sight' removal and accusation (“it’s Lisa”) is discussed as funny and potentially unfair.
  • Queen Corgi — Person · On-show persona/nickname used as a co-host address and 'Queenie' awardee · 3 mentions · first at
    A recurring bit: one host greets the other as “Queen Corgi,” and it becomes the explicit 'Queen of the Week' in the Queenie/Weenie segment.
    That's not true because I loved Queen Corgi long before I ever became Mama Corgi met Cub Corgi. I didn't meet Cub Corgi till two nights ago. And I've been standing Queen Corgi since October.
  • Kendall Jenner — Person · Referenced celebrity in pop-culture news story · 3 mentions · first at
    Subject of the first 'fast five' story: discussed in relation to a Fanatics Super Bowl campaign and flirty comment exchange with Devon Booker.
  • Corey Booker — Person · Referenced athlete/celebrity in pop-culture news story · 4 mentions · first at
    Discussed as Kendall Jenner’s ex engaging in a flirty exchange that may be part of a Fanatics campaign rollout.
  • Cub Corgi — Person · On-show persona/nickname used in host banter · 1 mention · first at
    Part of the running 'Corgi' bit: referenced as someone the co-host is accused of favoring, used to build playful host dynamics.
    Although, I feel as though you're really only using me for Cub Corgi. you love Cub Corgi.
  • Jackson Claude — Person · Referenced as part of the show intro (likely mis-transcription of host name) · 2 mentions · first at
    Appears in the opening line as the show’s host identity; however, the transcript suggests this may be an erroneous rendering rather than a distinct public figure.
    Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

Companies & orgs

  • Uber Eats — Company · Referenced company · 2 mentions · first at
    Criticized for unmemorable Super Bowl commercials.
    Something negative about Uber Eats, which is probably my most used application, but I feel like they often fall into like the trope of just like throw money at it, throw money…

Products & tech

  • Patreon — Product · Secondary_owned · 5 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a subscription service for extra podcast content.

Media & podcasts

  • Tell Me Lies — Media · Referenced work · 2 mentions · first at
    Discussed as a TV show the hosts watched and recapped.
    Was it the best episode ever? Because Steven was barely in it. I was like thinking I'm why am I enjoying this episode so much? Like I don't feel that dread that pit. He was in it for.

Sponsors

  • Home Chef — Product · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at
    Promoted as a meal kit service to simplify dinner routines during an ad read segment.
  • Weight Watchers — Product · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at
    Promoted as a sustainable weight management solution during an ad read segment.
  • Gold Bond Healing Hydrating Lotion — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
    Promoted as a solution for dry winter skin during an ad read segment.

Full transcript with timestamps

Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Yay for Friday. Hey Jacqui, how you doing? Good morning, Queen Corgi.

Good morning, Popper Jax. I guess yeah, you're my loyal subject. Although, you seem very loyal.

I first of all, I loyal fans. I'm I could not be more loyal as an individual. Although, I feel as though you're really only using me for Cub Corgi. Like, you love Cub Corgi.

That's not true because I loved Queen Corgi long before I ever became Mama Corgi met Cub Corgi. I didn't meet Cub Corgi till two nights ago. And I've been standing Queen Corgi since October.

Yeah. kind of had a busy day doing press interviews. Press this, press that. Everybody wanting an interview with Queen Corgi. She's very busy that Corg's

Yeah, but she's really opening up to the press. She's really opening up, but not as much as I plan on opening up right after today's episode. We're doing like a full in-depth episode um on my entire experience on the Mass Singer for Patreon. It'll be up today. It's our final episode of the month. And for anyone who might be new here, if you're enjoying the toast, which is free to listen to and will, you know, remain that way. How we, you know, keep this beautiful lights on is we do Patreon. It is a subscription service. Every month you can pay $7.99 per month to get five extra episodes from us. They vary every month. Lots of vlogs, lots of um you know, special segments. I love a little segments. We do dear toaster full episodes. We do more BTS with like husbands, sisters, wives, things of that nature. Um some of our Hallmark segments, Naggie [ __ ] Wife. We're due for a Naggie Bitchwitch wife segment.

We are. Um all happens on Patreon. Five episodes a month. And you can also, you know, once you buy the subscription, you can go back and watch, you know, every video and podcast we've ever posted. Hundreds of great chili cookoffs,

hundreds of episodes. That's how we keep this Maverick lighting on. Q wrecked. So, make sure to head over to patreon.com to check out the mass singer BTS episode we will be recording later today.

Well, let's talk about something. Let's talk about my Botox and my filler cuz it's been a couple of days and I feel like I feel like I'm loving it.

I think you look great. Yeah, your lips look great. They look great because like they don't even look that changed. So, what I believe I I heard her talking about it and then I was like watching TikTok and apparently this is what like the procedure if you want to call it that is called it's called a kiss.

You told me that. Oh, I did. Okay. So, if anybody wants like you love my lips and you want to tell your doctor, it's called a kiss.

I guess I do see like your upper lip. Yeah, they really they only put the needle in the top of my lip like to lift it a little bit and then a little Botox under my nose. I feel like my smile has been so less gummy. Like I'm feeling

Can we see your smile party? Right. And like I can feel my forehead not moving, you I'm so jealous. I was looking at my forehead today and I was just counting down another day counting off the calendar.

Right. You're almost there. You know what? I should make an appointment with a like there was a person you wanted to get an appointment with but you couldn't get an appointment for a few months. That's when I'll be ready.

Yes. Where I ended up going. I had the best experience. I highly recommend. I probably will go there. But

I'm glad that it worked out the way that it did. But I am in a place to get a great appointment right now.

Yeah, you are. But like you you don't know anyone who's like like you can see me. Like I am

I see you from and I know you I know you don't see my calls which is a ugly I texted you last night good call.

I had a good call about someone from Traders reminding us of someone we know. It was a good call. Right.

Live. It was a good call. I wrote good call. You also made a crazy call offline to me yesterday that I I didn't really agree with. What did you say?

What did I say? We were sitting on your couch and you said it was really out there.

It was like it was out there. It'll come to us. You made a call about like a celebrity who looks like someone.

What were we talking about? We talk about everything. Like we cover the gamut of all things.

Okay. Today's episode is fabulous. We've got Traiers recap. We've got Queenie and Weenie. We've got um I

think you watch Tell Me Lies. We did. Me too. Oh, great. Maybe we'll make that like a fourth story recap.

Was it the best episode ever? Because Steven was barely in it. I was like thinking I'm like, why am I enjoying this episode so much? Like I don't feel that dread that pit. He was in it for two seconds. Of course, the seconds that he were in it was like enough to make me want to kill him. But

there was something that was really Oh, when he sends the pictures, that was dreadful.

[ __ ] love Diana. Like, I love her, but she's being an idiot. Yeah, she's lost control. She had a lot of control last season, keeping things from Steven. And this season, she like can't help but like rub his nose in. It's like, girl, you're not out of the woods yet.

No. And that was pit inducing. However, if someone like said I feel like it's going to backfire on him because why would a college like someone's ex sent them

revenge pictures like you you know what I mean? Like it's a law school and revenge porn is quite literally illegal.

So, I hope that that does like backfire onto him. There's quite literally nobody on this planet I hate more. Also, I liked the episode so much cuz it was so much Bo uh Wrigley and um Bri and obsessed. Like I could not be more obsessed. They make me like I'm kicking my feet like obsessed. Wrigley putting Steven in his place a number of times, but like you could just see like Steven's really happy. He has no one to share it with and he's like trying to be happy and it's like

he's not really he's going to like have an equal and opposite reaction when he realized like, oh, I need my joy is like cruelty.

Yeah. And when he was like kind of tricking everyone to go out and celebrating him, I was like seriously got the biggest ick. Like could you be a big bigger loser? Speaking of ick, I got the biggest ick last night from Ben. Okay. He was actually getting that. Okay, so like I told you, you Ruby has a runny nose. So like this light little cold has been running through our house. Like you could tell I have a little I'm really fine. Ben got hit like with a true cold. His nose is so stuffed. You know when like you can't pronounce like certain vowels and consonants like instead of saying like I'm fine, he's like I'm fine. You know, he was being so nasly in bed last night. Like we were trying to watch Traers. We were like getting snacks. We did go puff. Like we ordered some like True Fruit

and he was like what do you want? And I was just like yucky. He was just being like and I was like, "I need you to stop talking." He was like, "You're being so mean." I'm like, "I'm sorry, but if you talk like that," and he was like in my ear, too, being like, "Oh, my nose." Yeah. No, but it was worse than that. Like, my nose is really stuffy. And I was like, "Okay, get away from me." Like, he was being so icky last.

You know what's also icky about it? It's like you fought the same thing that he's fighting and Ruby's fought it. And it's like we're all taking him down.

We're all stronger than you. Like I've been through this and it's like not that it's not that serious.

I've been where you are and it's like man used to go to war and now the amount of tissues on his

and now you're getting a worse cold than me. Oh and then like as I was falling asleep I was on in that phase of sleep where I'm just about like I'm

la is what I call it. What do I hear like blowing his nose and I'm like you are going to have to do that elsewhere. And then this morning he was like I don't know if you heard but like I left the room last night in the middle of the night to go blow my nose. I'm like, well, the middle of the night is like I probably would have slept through it, but right at like, you know, 10:47 is when you need to leave the room, which is kind of a crazy night in my house.

That is crazy. It's a crazy night in my house. Max is like sleeping like a newborn again, like eating every 3 hours. That's just I don't It could just be like It could just be like a spurt. So, we'll see. Um because we like have been trying to get him to sleep in the crib, but we might have to be go back to co-sleeping because that's not that couldn't work. Like, we get better stretches when we all sleep together in the bed.

You got to look out for number one. Yeah. like we were getting better sleep a few weeks ago than we are now. So,

but I also do feel like that just sometimes happens like you're it's not linear. It is linear, but there are like little divots and maybe you're just in a divot.

I perhaps and I'm fine with that and I'm willing to like ride it off the weekend to a degree. Um but like every 3 hours like 10 3 6:30 like no,

it's not going to work. So, we we got to switch it up. Shake it up. Chicago girlfriend.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna shake up some things. I was going to talk to you about it like

our schedule. No, no, no, no. My feeding. Oh, okay. I would love to talk about it.

No. I'm just like, no. I'm not. It's not a fully It's not a full thought yet. Are you thinking maybe starting combination?

Like m maybe just to get a little stup like Yes. By the way, that's why that's how a lot of people do like because formula the thing about breast milk that's so beautiful is that it digests so quickly because it's so natural. It's very sensitive on the baby's stomach and that's great. But that means they get hungry again quicker. So, a lot of people just introduce formula at night. Well, cuz also like when he's feeding all night, then when I pump in the morning, I always pump to get out the extra and there's not that much extra.

Two weeks ago when I would pump to get out the extra, I was getting like 10 ounces.

Yeah. But you're also just regulating like it's now the time to only for a bottle while I'm gone and then some for the freezer. Today I had to take out of the freezer for while I'm gone.

I've so been where you are. Because I'm feeding throughout the night, but if we don't feed in the night, then I pump in the morning. I got plenty for the day.

I love formula at night. Like do it. It's seriously I'm just I'm thinking about it. We'll see how the next few days goes. But I'm just like, I'm not taking from the back freezer. I didn't take from even the front freezer. I take from the back.

You start like when you're still breastfeeding and you're actively dipping into your own stash, like it's so traumatizing. It's really when your milk starts to regulate. That's exactly what happened to me.

Well, my milk is regulated because I was never a pumper. But now that we're eating more at night, that takes away from what I'm producing during the day. And I need to like reverse it.

Yeah. Uno. Reverse 10,000%. You know, I have a can of formula that I leave at your house. Go for it.

I don't know what I'm going to use. I know. The formula wars. Yeah, it's wild out there.

I'm waiting for like the episode of American Greed, you know? Oh gosh. Like it's so crazy out here.

I know. It's such a hard choice. I know. Even though like then once you do it, it's like, okay.

Yeah. I feel like now if like I was stuck in cuz you know, I realized on a TikTok somebody said like, you know, they don't sell any formula at airports, which is actually crazy. Like they should sell formula. They don't sell diapers either. There should be like a vending machine. Like there's Kylie Cosmetics, you know. Um, so if I was like in an emergency and I feel like now I'm when I was choosing formula I was like I have to do look at all the studies. Now I'm like put it in the bottle. Like I would take anything.

What does it have to do with the airport? Like if I was in an emergency in the airport

so what would you do? And someone was like well here I have whatever. I'd be like yeah sure.

Yeah. Like I feel like on the band-aid ripping off the band-aid is the hardest part. Like if you've never given formula

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And once you have it's like whatever. No. And I have in the past and we used the same one the last two times and like it was good. So, I don't know why I'm I might not do it again. I don't know.

It's a big decision feeding. I think about such a big decision. I think about what I'm gonna eat so thoroughly. Like, I'm always thinking about what I'm going to eat. The amount of thought that goes into my own appetite.

Yeah. Huge. And it wouldn't make sense for us to do different formulas cuz we're always like

sharing goods. Yeah. It would just be more convenient for me since I literally post about your house all the time these days if you could just like be on my journey as well.

Yeah. But Rue, he's not picky. No. No. If I switch, he'd switch. Yeah. Oh, a thousand percent. That's what I'm saying. Like I could put anything in his bottle.

Yeah. Yeah. Because he's not a picky R. No. Um unlike his mama. Well, today's episode

He's like his father. Yes. Exactly. Saving habits. Very adventurous. He'll try all formulas from all corners of the world.

Yes. Vacuum. Um we have so much to do today. We've got Queenie and we've got Traders.

Actually, we actually can Dilly Dy. We have like two TV recaps. Queen and Weenie. We're recording a Patreon after. It's like we have let's get down to business.

The girls want the hun. Yeah, I know. But like we're not defeating the hun here at the toes. Who do we defeat here every day? The patriarchy. I love that.

Do we? I feel like we are the patriarchy. Do you feel that? I feel like we're actually like lowkey defeating the patriarchy like while also trying to uphold it. Do you know what I mean?

No. Like go on. We're propatriarchy in essence, right? Yeah. Like I work it's like a patriarchal society, you know.

I wouldn't say I'm like pro patriarchy. I'm not going to lie. I don't like 100% know what the patriarchy is. I know it's like men who built this country keeping those like womanhating systems in place. And I do think there are like some of those like womanhating systems are just low-key like better lives for women. Like I don't I don't love I love my job obviously, but like I would have loved also like not to have to work,

right? That would be the patriarchy that would kept you in the home, which Yeah. Which I love my home. So yeah, I'm I'm sort of like teetering on I can't decide whether the patriarch is bad.

So well, I think like it gets a really bad rap, but I think like when you I also think sometimes internet wait, sorry. I think like internet speak, they confuse the patriarchy with like government. Do you know what I mean?

Here's the thing. A system of government in which the father or eldest male is the head of the family and descent is traced through the male line. That's literally like what we live in

like royal. But yeah, I guess cuz like Yeah. Okay. So it's like we're pro patriarchy like where the father would be the head of the family. Sure. Go ahead. Yeah.

However, like we're actually like we just found ourselves like in a matriarchy.

In a matriarchal world. Like I didn't set out to be a matriarch yet here. I'm such a matriarch.

I didn't set out to [ __ ] the patriarchy. Yet here we are. [ __ ] it. [ __ ] the patriarchy.

Yeah. Unintentionally, you know, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. That's really quite beautiful. Yeah.

So, someone wants to fix that. I I just think also I find like the word patriarchy the way some people feel about moist, you know? I feel I just feel like some people make the patriarchy like and [ __ ] it like their whole personality and I'm like, "Girl, go back to work." Like I just I find like patriarchy verbiage like an internet like I find it annoying. So not I'm not with them.

No, it's it's taken on a meaning of its own. But like actually definition it's just a government which and it is a patriarchy.

So it is the government. Okay. I was wrong about that. Like a society in which like the men are hold the power. That's like we've quite literally never had a female president. Like that's really crazy.

Yeah. No, but also like think about your kids. They have your husband's last name that it's traced through the male line.

But here's the thing. Like if I had made like a really big stink, like I could have gotten Ruby's last name to be Asher. Like I could have fought my way.

We've had this conversation. I think we had it with Ben on the toast. Yeah, we did when we were in the Hamptons. Um and he was like not down. But if I like if I sat him down and I really worked on it, like I could have gotten it. I think it's nice. Like I have no problem with it not being my last name.

I actually think like I have no like this is how it is now. But I do think like if I

we're nearing the end of that like I think that will change in the next hundred years.

Yeah. It doesn't it like to me it doesn't make a ton of sense. Yeah. We have said this when we do Dear Toasters because a lot of girls write in being like you know it's hard to change your name and they feel conflicted. Sometimes someone's last name is like Dudy or whatever. Um, and we always say it really shouldn't be a gendered issue. It's not like it's automatically the man or it's automatically the woman. I think like some names, sorry, like are better than others sonically. Some names have a lot of history. I think there's a lot of um factors that go into it and and the family should just decide. Yeah.

Based on lots of different factors, you know, how does it look, initials, like things of that, you know, ver some shallow like, you know, I don't like that last name or, you know, or we had, you know, a famous uncle. There should be like reasons but it's like the woman carries the child like maternity

by that's maternity is established you know like it's oh yeah so if it has you know if I carry the baby and the baby has my last name like who is this man

but I do feel like that is classic patriarchy like we carry we feed we do everything and we don't even get the name

yeah so that's like I don't love that one me neither patriarchies are perfect but I'll accept it you know like it's been this way for hundreds of years. Like I don't necessarily think it should change now. I think that would be really confusing.

Yeah. I think people who hate the patriarchy like want to just get rid of everything like since the dawn of time and I do feel like connected to the woman of your because we're still doing some of the same things. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Like we're we're so matriarchical beyond in our lives. I don't even think we realized but it's like we didn't like choose.

We're just like the accidental matriarchs. That's the name of today's episode, of course. And also our memoirs, the accidental matriarch.

Yeah, please. I just I love my job. I earn a great living. If I had it, my brothers, like I would just be a kept woman.

So, especially since I had a baby, I'm so tired, but I love my job and I'm never going to quit. Um,

so it's like accidental like here we are like, you know, patriarch busters. I wish it was a way to like find a Tik Tok that you saw this morning that like stuck with you. Do you know what I mean? Like

Oh my god. And the ones that I save cuz I think they're going to stick with me. I never go back for. And the ones that stick with me, I didn't save.

Maybe if I liked it, it I don't like stuff on TikTok. I just scroll. But if you like it, there's like a liked section. Let me see. [ __ ] No. Um it was this like video of this like 100-year-old farmer being like why women should stay home. And it wasn't like stereotypical like make me a sandwich. She was like, "Women need to stay home so they can take bubble baths and live luxuriously and not get wrinkles." And it was like, "Yes, actually." And the comments were like, and the comments were like, "And if that was my husband, I would want to make him a sandwich. I would want to keep a nice home.

Sandwiches come." So, the way the like that men talk about women staying home, it was all like for their own benefit. It's like, "Well, [ __ ] off. I'm going to work." But if the men were like, "I need my woman to stay home so she can be happy and healthy and thrive." Well, you know what? I would want to make the bed

for you for when you get back, you know? Yeah. So, I just think maybe the way we talk to one another has a lot to do with it as well.

I agree. Not be like, "My woman stays home and she wipes my ass and she cleans my toilets and she makes me a sandwich."

Yeah. It's like, "Well, no. Why do you have that accent?" Cuz the guy in the video did like deadass. He was like, he was a big like big ass farmer.

Well, I love that. Deer farmer. Yeah. Bring back Deer Farmer. Bring back State Farm. What happened to them? They were like one of our biggest sponsors. kind of like um

they're just like laying low, I guess. Yeah. But they sponsored Deer Toasters and we called it Deer Farmer and that's just Toasty Lions.

We should have changed it like permanently. Permanently to the Dear Farmer segment.

We should give it a Toasty Lions. Yeah. Let's get into the stories. Okay, without further ado, it is time for the fast five stories that you do need to know.

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Thank you, Cooji. Our first story, exes Kendall Jenner and Devon Booker are raising eyebrows with a flirty exchange over the Super Bowl ad. So, we talked about Kendall's fanatic Super Bowl ad. There's been like more roll out. She went on Jimmy Kimmel and like facetimed

that was Fallon. She went on Jimmy and she facetimed Tom Brady and they're like doing more sticktick the Super Bowl and Fanatics and then

and Tom Brady like isn't Fanatics investor. He's like a OG. Yeah. So then Devin Booker com she said that she thought that the Seahawks were going to win the Super Bowl. She was like asked to like, you know, who she going to bet on, whatever. He commented on that. He said, "I bet a million the Seahawks get that ring before you do at Kendall Jenner with like the blushing very girly emoji like

Oh, I know that one. Spirit fingers." Yeah, that's not like for a big man, but okay. Um, and then she wrote back at dbook rolling eyes emoji, how's the ankle? And he wrote back come rub it.

So how did he spell come? No properly. Thank God for that. Thank God for that. So people were like what in the

is this stickick? The people were confused whether this was like a real like comment that he left or like part of the campaign.

So it seems like it's part of the campaign cuz he also posted a story in support of fanatics. So it seems like he's in the fanatics family and they're like bantering and getting paid to banter. However, I don't think it's part of anyone's media and marketing strategy to say, "Come rub it."

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like his initial comment like, "I bet a million that get that ring,"

by the way, was mean, but also he's like betting he's still like making about fanatics

and then they went rogue. I just feel like he went off script her to rub his ankle. The thing is is not to be such a narc cuz I was loving this campaign and I still have but you know I get in trouble when I don't do like hashtag ad and stuff like that. You know you can get sued by the FTC and I feel like us like guessing whether or not this is like a paid endorsement just does violate FTC regulations. Um his comments should have had to have said you know better than before you do at Kendall Jenner # ad cuz it is confusing. I just sorry to be an arc. Yeah, but I guess when you're the spokesperson for a company, you can sometimes like post in support of them and it's not paid.

Yes, but we didn't know Deon Booker like No, but he had something on his story like about Fanatics chart or whatever. Like

Yeah. Um Yeah. Also like finding this whole campaign like requires me to watch a video from Jimmy of Kendall facetiming Tom Brady. I actually didn't watch it because I don't care.

Yeah. So, like all the positive like fun feelings that I had on Monday or whenever we talked about it, like they are lessening. It was still a great commercial, but like you know, I don't know. Kendall was being like, you know, nerd on valid. Like I'm just like I'm liking it less.

Yeah. It's just a lot to consume, you know? I don't want to have to keep up. I don't want to feel like I missed something.

Yeah. And I know we were like waiting for a follow-up commercial perhaps on the actual day of the Super Bowl and that I would have been fine and fun with. It was like it felt like her spot on Jimmy was sponsored by fanatics. It like was

it's a lot to keep up with and I don't want to do that much keeping up at the moment.

Yeah, I've seen some other rollouts. Make it easy for me. I've seen some other rollouts and it pains me because I'm about to say something negative about Uber Eats, which is probably my most used application, but I feel like they often fall into like the trope of just like throw money at it,

throw money, throw celebrities with like really unmemorable commercials and they probably spend the most they're one of the brands that spends the most money every year in the Super Bowl and like they've already started their roll out with like Parker Posie. It's just like very topical, very white lotus and it's just like

it's a little stated. Yes, for sure. I remember like they had like Ross and Rachel from Friends. So, they get like amazing celebrities but everything's so unmemorable. I feel like they really like they need to do something different. They're always just doing the same formula and I feel like it's not memorable. They spend so much money. They just like try and get the most famous person that they could possibly get and it's like okay.

Yeah. And there's so much you could do. It's not like a hard brand to advertise for.

No. And I love Uber Eats. It's my favorite. Well, that's a fair criticism. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

And the commercial was so corny. It was like, well, it was like her being very, you know, Parker Posie, like football is like, okay, she doesn't talk like that. She was saying how football is like so foodcoded, you know, Jerry Rice. Um, yeah. And then I don't know the other players that she named, but they all had like food in there. And I was like "Oh

yummy." Yeah. It was so like written by a third grader. Wow. Yeah. She They need to hire the fanatics writer who wrote that Kendall commercial.

Yeah. The commercial is still great. The cheese stands alone, but like everything else I could live without.

What's the cheese stands alone? Ben is always saying it. I realized this morning that I was

We literally titled our episode it cuz I was running out the door, so I couldn't really think of a title and you suggested it. So, I thought I I just assume that's who stands alone is a phrase from the final verse of a children's nursery rhyme and game. Oh, the farmer in the dell. The cheese stands alone. Yes.

Okay, I endorse. It's cute. That's why maybe I know it now more than ever. Maybe Ben's been singing it like in his nursery roundup, you know?

In his roundup, perhaps. That's beautiful. Thanks. I I thought it was going to be like something stupid from TikTok. That's actually really sweet. I endorse our title from the other day.

You think so little of me, sweet sister. And once again, the cheese stands alone. Imagine if we made the title The Cheese Stand Alone again. The G stands alone part two.

I'd be I'd be done if it didn't have the perfect title. The accidental matriarch.

That would actually The accidental matriarchs is what this show should be called. 1,000% if we ever rebrand. Somebody write that down. Like that's the title.

But I also like it for a memoir or it sounds like a book that gets turned into a movie.

It sounds like a And then a multi-million dollar lawsuit. Oh, I saw a TikTok today. So I was telling Jackie before,

oh, we can do this story next. Oh, okay. About Justin Baldon. I feel like I've been doing a lot of research on Baldon v. Lively and I know people are over it. I mean, that's just not going to work for me cuz I feel like I've sort of fallen on the sword of Blake Lively. And up until recently, they've been sort of laying dormant. And I wasn't 100% sure if I was right. And I was like gonna stop talking about it because I feel like maybe I like went too far and I would have had to backtrack. Um, and I just want to say like, prepare to be sick of me. I am now sure more than ever that I'm team Blake Lively. I just want to say that.

So, a voicemail was unsealed um to from Blake to Justin Maldoni before making it ends with us in the voice message

and she's got some real nerve leaving like minutes long voice memo for a coworker. It's It's inappropriate. It's she is insufferable.

Sent on February 2023, February 8th, 2023. She spoke openly about feeling overwhelmed that she prepared to return to work while juggling backto-back projects and newborn and family obligations. She said, "I'm talking to you as a friend at this point more than anything." She explained that she was already committed to filming another project first despite feeling physically and emotionally stretched thin. She said the only reason that I'm doing that movie before is because I gave them my word and I wouldn't go back on that, but having a week off in between, it's just a lot. She described the stress of returning to work without adequate care child adequate child care support. I still don't have a baby nurse, she said, adding that the idea of going back to work so soon felt overwhelming.

Literally me on the masser. Literally me today. Like literally like actually relatable. I don't know why the [ __ ] she's telling this to her like soon to be boss.

Yeah. She said shooting in April, shooting in March is just too soon after having a baby and not sleeping and wanting to be in my best shape. This this is literally me. Is this play about us?

Please. I like that. Obviously, she said there's selfish reasons I'm telling you this. If by chance you're like, "Oh my god, if I could go two weeks earlier, that would actually be great than amazing."

Oh, this is like kind of sad. Yeah. Wait, what's cringe about this? Just like her voice I everything that she releases her text like she is just a corny millennial woman. So, she's like the way she speaks is very cheyy and corny, but the message is actually an earnest play.

She said this is my social interaction these days just talking into voice memos. So, like now

this is like the the the voice memo of like a sad desperate woman. But like this is why we need the patriarchy because this woman shouldn't be working

so a woman who like needs to work. So this is like if she didn't feel like the societal pressure to work because what she doesn't do a a movie because she had a baby and then she's put out to pasture cuz she didn't get on the circuit and everyone forgets about her. This is the pressure on women.

No, it's a tale as old as time and no matter what industry you're in, like you're getting passed up for [ __ ] because you took 3 days off to nurse. If you take too long off, we can't even take a longer maternity because everyone will move on.

No, it's so true. find another pop culture podcast that they love. The thing is like that is true.

Yeah, it is. And it's like not people's fault. Like they got to live. They got to listen to podcasts. Like no, it's terrible. Like we we'll be bleeding out here. Um and then we also get in keeps of like taking too long. Like I can't. Um so I actually quite deeply relate to Blake um in this voice memo. It is just I think the shock value is really still not wearing off for people. Like with reading Taylor's text messages, these are things why would we ever expect to hear like a mega celebrities voice memo? The point of the voice memo we said like

for it to disappear and it's like oh every your courts could your texts could end up in court. Let's send voice memos.

Oh but like I thought they disappear and he obviously kept it and nefarious people who keep voice memos are not your friend.

Voice memos. I know. When someone keeps my voice memo I'm like why? I didn't even say anything.

So I really I'm going to call out someone by name. Remy Bader keeps all my voice memos and I just like voice memo her because we're like gossiping and stuff and I'm like why do you keep keeping them? And she's like it's like a setting I don't know how to turn off. Oh, I feel like Shannon I feel like Shannon keeps them.

So I think it's a setting and like Shannon Remy turn it off cuz I'm just like was that so interesting that you want to ever hear it again?

Or it was like what I used to send them a lot when I was breastfeeding cuz I only had one hand.

Yeah. Um and it's like I'm just gossiping but stop. No, sometimes I'm just explaining something. It's actually more boring. That's why it needs to be explained. It's actually not like rattata. So

I can do rattata over talk to text. Oh, I can rattata with the best of them. But I can't do talk to text when I have some like boring nuance thing to say. That's when I do my voice memo. They're not even that interesting. So like why are you keeping it?

Do you ever want to listen to it again? There I think there is a setting that automatically keep automatically keep them.

I'll give Shad and Grace. Yeah. I'll give Remy Grace, but I think Justin Baldon keeping them as nefarious.

Yeah. So also what I was going to say is sometimes like you put like the worst in the voice note because you think that

it'll disappear. It will disappear. Like when you don't want to say put something in writing, you say it.

But now knowing like Yeah. I think we're all moving differently technologically ever since this lawsuit and like all the evidence has started to come out.

Yeah. I'll be meeting you in person if you want to talk. Yes. If I have something crazy to say like let's go off the grid.

Yeah. You can come down to Florida and we'll take a drive and we can talk about it.

So, um a lot of evidence that has uh it's so funny because so much like documents were released that it's everything is still very slowly being unsealed and not unsealed but like sort of made public and I think we talked a lot last week about the cut of the movie, right? like Sony, why were there two? And so it's now been confirmed via documents that Justin Maldon's contract with Sony.

There was always going to be a bake off. He did not get Final Cut of the movie. Sony was worried about giving this huge budget. They gave him $25 million.

Do they call it a bake off or did you It's called a bake off. That's what it is. When there are multiple edits of a film and then the best tested one moves forward.

So this whole time it's been sort of alleged that Blake stole a movie and she made her own cut like going rogue with Ben Affleck. Well, no. Um Justin Belony never had final cut of the movie. His contract with Wayf Farer is now like public. He never had final cut. There was always going to be a bake off. He was able to put forth his own final version

and then there were agreed upon um they were going to do the testing and then there were agreed upon categories. There was like you know under 35 women 18 and older and so there were two key categories that he had to win in the bake off to um get his cut made and he lost both of them like fair and square to Blake Lively. Blake Lively's cut is Sony's cut. Sony gets a cut and Justin Balon get got get a cut. I'm not 100% sure why Sony's cut. They went to Blake Lively, but they did. Colleen Hoover endorsed it. Um,

wait. And all this time we thought Justin's cut won, but Blake's went to theater. Well, actually, we thought Justin's cut won and Justin's went to theater. Now, it turns out,

no, we thought, but up until last week, we thought that like his was better, but Sony went with hers. Why? No, hers was better in the two key categories that before all this drama, Justin signed his contract saying, "Yes, I want I will win these two categories if my cut." So, it kind of makes sense because Justin was this sort of green director. They gave him the budget. And you know what? Like, say what you want about Blake Lively. Like, her cut went on to make $350 million. Colleen Hoover said she thought it was better. It told the story better.

Um, Colleen Hoover also, like there are emails coming out now that she was like having problems with Justin, like before Blake was even

Cass. Cass like he cut her out when she sold the rights to whoever it was, Sony. She had said like she had been burned in the past by like some of her works, like them cutting her out. And so, she wanted to be more involved. There's like an email of her just like sort of pleading being like, "I'd like to be more involved in the script writing process." And Justin like totally cut her out and like was holding events with like fans to work on the script.

Excuse. And he invited Colleen but told her not to speak. Isn't that weird? That is weird.

Silencing women. Um just write the script, you know. Yeah. Right. Just write the script. And also it's based on a book. It's pretty much written for you.

So like I think Colleen endorsing Sony/B Blake's version and then Blake winning it was like sort of a no-brainer. Yeah.

Um but so a lot of misinformation when it comes to the cut. And I'll um acknowledge like I also was misinformed.

Yeah. But that's all good to know. Very interesting. So the whole thing is it's less of a stolen movie. It's more of like that she ear like won it.

Right. And I think Justin really needs to legally prove that Blake stole the movie because if that's the case, then he wouldn't have been capable of harassing her because she was not his subordinate, you know?

Um and that's what his counteruit was about, but it got thrown out. So, he really needs to prove that Blake stole the movie like legally in order to be free of any alleged harassment because you can't harass someone who's not like it's not harassment in the workplace if it's not your subordinate.

Well, that's not true. I think that's like what the legal claim he's taking is.

You could harass your boss thousand%. Okay. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah. Thank you for that. I feel like we're getting closer to clarity. Yeah. And the lawsuit hasn't even started yet. I just like I was teetering like I wasn't 100% sure if I was right about Blake Lav and I was like have I made a grave error and that's why I did stop talking about it. Um and when the lawsuit

two days No, no, no. Like we took like over the summer like there was there's been a huge break.

I thought you meant like since last week. No. And then like since last week I've been feeling more like I I really don't I don't think Justin Baldon is like this big victim that everyone like all these people think he is. Like I think like he was a freak. There's so many women on record. I feel like that whole thing is getting pushed aside all the women on record. You know, his former podcast hosts need to interview her. Like she is the most interesting woman in the world to me.

What did she say? Remember she just like quit being like toxic masculinity. Yeah, but I thought she quit like when he was getting canceled. She supported him for years.

Right. So is it just like you couldn't take the heat or do you have something to say? Liz plank.

Okay. I was for me it was giving weenie energy. Yeah. Um but it could be giving victim energy.

Right. So there's there's the young Lily whose actress's name I can never remember. I'm so sorry. Um, of course, Blake Lively, Jenny Slate, the podcast host, Colleen, like saying that she was being silenced. Um, yeah, I'm feeling more sure than ever. Like, I'm ready to be the villain of this story. Like, I am not I'm not team Justin Baldon. Like, I stand firmly like prepare to be sick of me. I've done the research and

accidental matriarch. Yeah. Look at me. Accidental. Yeah. I just think it's been so easy to like Blake Live. Like, she Sure. She's annoying. That's that being the headline. She's a weenie. She's insufferable. She talks weird. Her and Taylor's wife have like took down. Yeah, whatever.

Our next story. Sexually harass anyone. Okay. Netflix's new dating show, Age of Attraction, keeps contestants real age under wraps. The trailer just dropped for a new Netflix show called Age of Attraction that is hosted by Nick Vial and Natalie Joy Vial because they have an age gap.

They have a crazy age gap. How about what's the difference? Um, she is it's an 18-year age, gab, but it just feels so much smaller cuz

he's he's a podcaster, so he's like in a young man's game and he looks young. He seems younger and she seems older,

right? She's like a mother already. She got a mother very young, but it's still so crazy.

Yeah. So, they're the perfect host for this show. They are. Um, that's called Age of Attraction. So, it's a bunch of people ages 22 to 59 and they like, you know, rotate date each other and fall in love and then they don't find out each other's ages until the end.

It's giving season one of Love is Blind. Like, it kind of sounds like an amazing idea.

I just want to say like it's it's kind of weird because like you can you have eyes.

You might not know someone's exact age, but like you can see if they are older or younger.

Do you know who like would have been perfect on this show? Who? Jessica and Mark.

Oh, yeah. From Love is Blind. Like because they were two people who couldn't get past age. And I think sometimes that does happen.

But they were like so similar in age. Like there's this one couple that the trailer focuses on where he's clearly younger and she's clearly older and then like they're and she was like typically if I had met you I would have set you up with my daughter.

Did you watch a trailer? No. And then at the end it's like we're going to share each other's ages but it's like we have eyes.

You are the age gaps again? 22 all the way to 59. Yeah. I don't love like a 22-y old girl being with a 59-year-old man. There is like an element of ick here,

but it's everyone has eyes is what I'm saying. Like you you could see that someone's older or younger. You might not be able to guess their exact

exact age, but within what, like 5 years, you think you'd be able to guess like

5 to 10 if you were in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s. Like it's not that crazy. It's not blind.

And then at the end, they're going to say their age. And how different could your age be from what you really are?

Well, let's see. Maybe they cast people. Maybe that's what like the casting director was looking for. people who really don't look their age. There are people like that.

Yeah. When I went to the dermatologist to get my Botox, I was like, "How old are you?" She looked amazing. She was an amazing, you know, uh advertisement for herself because she was 44. I'm like, "You look my age."

Well, that was like me when I was at, you know, the restaurant. They said I looked 18.

Where? When was that? You were there. I don't remember. I was talking about But I I chalk it up to the pads.

What restaurant were we at? Um the club. We were in the club. We were at the club.

I don't remember. We were in the club. It was a few weeks ago. Oh, you remember something from a few weeks ago?

No. And it was like for me. I believe you. And that's what they said. Yeah. And whenever like people see me, they think I'm very young.

Yeah. I think that actually that is true. Yeah. I do have a youth. You're fair skin. You're light-haired. Like definitely people think like I'm always older than you.

People think I'm younger than I am. You're also like out in not here of course, but like out in the world like you're kind of not shy but quieter. Mhm.

So that also like people thinking like she's shy, she's young, she's like a little girl.

You're giving little girl 100%. Little girl accidental matriarch. Um, but the show like is going to be great in terms of like reality TV. And I'm imagining there's a big twist because so there's

Yes, there has to be like this guy has to be literally 22 years old. But I'm glad that that's like the

You know who they would have cast back in the day? Like Taylor Hicks, remember the guy who won American Idol who was like 22 and had a full head of gray hair. People like that. There are and I'm sure the casting team like that this was an important show like in terms of casting. I think they probably spent a long time like looking for certain people.

Yeah. For old people who look younger and young people who look older so everyone thinks they're similar in age but then they're not.

Yeah. I think that it's like a good premise though because I think if you can relate on like

things and then you find out each other's age. Well, it's like we already related. Age isn't as big of a thing as looks. Unless

Right. Uh, it's pretty big really. Sometimes like you really like someone but like their age is just like

well unless it's about like then kids and stuff like if if that person a younger person

get divorced and you don't want to marry someone who's already been married like

but that's something that would come up in the conversations of falling in love like your history and stuff you know but just like the lifestyle of wanting kids if you're with an older woman

and that's just not going to be a possibility. Actually I watch a clip of we live in a patriarchy.

Okay. But the patriarchy is not like God's fault like it's biology. It's not really they didn't make it this way.

Yeah. Right. It's like not the patriarch's fault. Not to defend the patriarch. Maybe like the patriarchy is a function of the biology and the biological fact that women

it's based on science. Women have a hard stop. Yeah. Well, Clarane's actually I saw a clip of her on um Good Hang with Amy Polar talking about something so interesting that she got pregnant at 44 and she was like I had no she her kids were like 12 years old already. She had to do multiple rounds of IVF for her most recent pregnancy and she was 44. She was like she had no idea that she could get pregnant. She was freaking out when she got pregnant and obviously, you know,

but she was doing IVF. No. So, like with her previous pregnancies, she had to do IVF. So, she was like, "There's no way. I'm 44. I had the hardest time get she and then she got pregnant." Just a crazy story.

Look at that woman. Woman, matriarch, infinite possibilities. It's true. Are you ready for our fourth story, which is going to be Traers Recap?

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Thank you. Special T. Thank you. Our next story, Traers recap. Lisa Rena breaks down. Oh, spoilers. Spoilers. Breaks down in tears on the traders over her difficult exit from Real Houses Beverly Hills. Yeah, that was a weird line that was thrown It was a very weird um exit, but I feel like up until recently, like I've been watching the episodes and then going on social media and I'm pretty much agreeing with everyone. Like I thought everyone was going to be like hating on Michael um for what he said to Colton, but no, like Michael was valid and everything he said and honestly justice for Michael. So so far my takes with everyone have been pretty on par with the fans, but I'm really shocked at how many people are like mad at Rob for last night.

I'm mad at Rob. I'm not. I am because I'm sorry. Lisa was like a liability. Here's Yeah. Lisa wasn't a great trader.

And I have to imagine it was even worse in person. Like she really was awful. But he never said that. He never said, "She's a bad traitor. She's a liability. That's why I she needs to go cuz she's like giving up the secret." He like sort of exacerbated sort of a seed that Colton had planted and let it grow. Like he didn't back his fellow trader. And I I guess eventually the traders do turn on each other cuz you want to win and you want to win with at least the least amount of people as possible. But the less traitors there are, the more the chance the faithfuls have.

But also a really kind of effective way to keep the smoke off of you is to lead a charge against a fellow traitor. So like it sucks, but like look, Candace was being so obviously team Lisa. And the second the round table ended, everyone started saying Candace's name for the first time ever.

But Rob said it. No, someone else said it. Robin Colton. Someone else said it. And Colton I mean and Rob like substantiated it, but he did not say it.

He could have easily said a housewife wouldn't vote for a housewife. That's literally why Colton went for Lisa because she voted for Porsche.

It was very smart of Candace to um vote for Rob because she was kind of in a bad spot and she could have just done like a throwaway. But if Candace does get found out as a traitor, they'll be like, "Well, who was Candace targeting?" And

but why would she think she was targeting a fellow traitor? Oh, true. I actually don't think it was smart that Candace voted for Rob because now Rob knows that it's war whereas he could have and now when she goes like she has to like whip up Johnny and everyone to be against Rob whereas she could have been doing that in secret and Rob would have no idea.

Don't you feel like the show is becoming a little unfair gender- wise like the the five the six people who won the challenge. It was five um men and Natalie like who's like a very fit survivor.

She won survivor. So like I thought the same thing that the women didn't have a they don't get a chance to get the dagger or the

challenges should be like a little bit um more like intellectual like a combination of both physical and Donna Kelsey never stood a chance right she couldn't have done last night's challenge like I do think they need to become like a little bit more like sort of like an escape room would be good at that like I think it's becoming a little bit unfair and that was such a physical challenge like of course you have a former NFL player it was Stephen Kleti like all the guys and then they have this like boys club where with Natalie where they're like you sharing secrets.

I don't know. It's becoming a little unfair. I do think that they should spice it up a little bit where it's like maybe a puzzle.

I agree with you. And on the one hand, it's like, oh, maybe this is like a special forces type where it's like, well, you don't come on the show if you're not.

It's not. It's like it's a personality game. It is a mind game. So, I agree that that's not fair. And I felt the same way. And I also feel like it's unfair. They have this like boys group going where like Mark and not Steven. Steven has a mind of his own. He really likes

Mark is a follower. Mark is such a follower. Uh, you know what? Johnny Weir is kind of a freethinker. He just has bad thoughts. But I

know, but I don't I don't consider him in that group. No, but everyone who said that they were going for Natalie, literally not one of them voted for Natalie

because Rena didn't do a good job at the round table. And that's we need to talk about Rena because I actually was sad to see her go. I was sad to see her voted out and I didn't expect that because that's the point of the game to get the traders and she wasn't even being a good trader. But to go out like that was just sad. She's like so she comes in like so hot. She talks such a big game.

Wait, she did that after people were on to her. Like she flipped the switch so obviously like Colton pointed out that she was being quiet to everyone. So she started being loud. That's like the most obvious thing. She should have stayed in her like it it could not have been more obvious. Oh, and we need to talk about Jam Jam.

Wait, we need to talk. No, but I just was going to say that she talks like such I'm Lisa [ __ ] Rena. Like I'll be the best shooter cuz I'm an actress and this and I'm a housewife and if you don't survive housewives and can't survive the round table. She literally dug her own grave at the round table by giving nothing. People were prepared to vote for Natalie and she did not defend herself in any sort of

she was being so obvious like I'm only coming for you cuz you're coming for me. It was so like

no and she actually had something good to go on which is that Natalie slipped up. Tara heard it like that's something tangible and she was not compelling at all and it's just a case of who can speak better and like you are a housewife and you're one of the most iconic ones and you were taken down by Colton and Natalie and Rob

to be fair like I do not blame Rob for not backing Lisa. Like I do believe she was a liability

back her and he could have done it in a like he could have went harder. He could have used his double dagger like

No, but like Colton had an idea of something and Rob really like confirmed it and the two of them went hard and towards the end Rob everyone at the table respects Rob. He could have said less and he went hard for Lisa. It's not that he didn't back her. It's that he went for her. I

I actually just don't blame him. He kind of needed her out. Last week when he voted for her, I completely understood it. I had no choice and it look and it it looks better for the traitors if he votes for her and it throw it confuses everyone. This week he gunned for her. She might have actually not been sent home if not for him. He is the most popular person in the house more so than Colton. He's doing Colton's bidding. I am so excited for Coloulton to realize that he's been like the traitor hunter.

He thinks he's like I got a house. First of all, Rob did and he thinks he's like so but no and no one's getting played like a fiddle more.

That was Colton's. He figured it out first, but she only went home because of Rob. Like he, like you said, is the most popular guy in the house.

When he finds out that like he thinks he's at like he's running this and he's the biggest loser here. I can't wait.

I can't wait for that to happen. Like the person that he confides in the most is the traitor.

So, and they will have to turn on each other. Oh, and the funny thing is that people now think like what Rob is doing, Colton is actually doing. Like they think Colton is maybe a traitor who turned on Lisa and they were like going at it for a while and that was like that's actually a good theory that's for someone to think and it's hilarious cuz it's literally Colton's best friend.

Yeah. So, let's talk about Jam Jam and the the air kiss. Yeah. First of all, the drama. He's getting pulled away like he's in a psych ward. Like it's Lisa. It's Lisa.

I just want to say you can really tell that like that the experiment has gotten to these people. The fact that Natalie was she was like, "I was scared for my life. I was so scared."

Oh my god. Natalie was being crazy. Like, "Oh my god, you're just going to be taken off the reality show

and back to your family. Like, you're fine." She was being nutty. They were really acting like they're going to die.

Yeah. Yeah. It must be. And I've heard now you told me that like before the round table, it's 2 minutes of silence. They play spooky music. It's definitely more than I thought it was. Like I thought it was just like reality stars like getting together. No, they do it like

it's an immersive mind book. It's an immersive experience. Yeah. where they actually think they're going to die if they don't get the antidote.

So when Jam Jam was being like taken away by the guards and like he's it's Lisa. Oh my god. Me and Ben could not stop laughing like the level of drama. And it's interesting that like he was right it is Lisa, but they were completely wrong about how the murder in plain sight happened.

Yes. And I just want to say I don't think it's fair that he was taken away like that and that he got to speak and say who killed him.

Um like to the rules of the game. Yeah. But the thing is is that it's the same way like at a round table I because the thing is he was wrong. It was Lisa. Yes. But not in the way that he thought it was. So it's completely fair to like I actually don't I don't

but what if he was right and like but then he figured it out like I I don't agree. I think it's fine that he was able to. It added such a [ __ ] funny level.

It was funny but it's like usually the dead can speak. You kill someone successfully, they wouldn't be able to speak. Come back from the dead and tell you who did it.

I guess like maybe. But I'm not mad about it. I I don't know. I I I I like felt defensive of Lisa. I felt like it just didn't

Well, I wanted her to do better. I thought the show was like I wasn't No, but the thing is you were loving her as a traitor. You thought she was like like you having your renaissance. I didn't even feel that way. But just the way she went out just felt like wrong to me. I can't explain it. It I didn't feel like good. Like we got our prideful. You got yourselves a traitor.

Yeah. The thing I was having a renaissance and honestly it was Colton who pointed out like what I liked about Lisa was that she wasn't being Lisa. like that isn't who she is. So, she wasn't being a good trader. I do think Candace is being an amazing trader and I had very low expectations of her. Um, it's tough to be a traitor and a housewife with another trader. So, like yes, you could say that she only didn't vote for Lisa because she is also a housewife and she has maintained that she didn't vote for Porsche. Thank God.

Um, but it's starting to get a little suspicious like now her name's being thrown around.

Everyone's names. If your name's not being Johnny and Tara's names haven't been thrown around.

If your name's not being thrown around, you're not in the game. Yeah, Johnny and Tara or Mark.

Maybe their alliance will Yeah. Mark. Mark is a disappointment. Although, I didn't necessarily agree with Lisa's choice to kill Jam Jam. It felt really random.

Yeah. And yes, he's I didn't think he was She should have killed one of Colton's cronies to take away votes from the Colton block.

Yes. without directly going for Colton like a Derinda or like a Mark Mark does what Colton says even if he thinks he's singing for himself.

Yeah. Yeah. He needs they need to take away from that just like boy coalition cuz it's getting really strong between Rob and Colton. And then they have Mark. They're turning on Steven. Obviously a mistake. Steven's just like guilty of being a good guy.

Yeah. Like really sweet. Like I actually really like him. Yeah. I think that I don't know. I'm not mad at Rob cuz like I felt it like Lisa in every time Lisa was accused she could not have handled it worse. She started like giggling like why don't you just tell everyone you're a traitor like so bad and at some point yes it's like traitor strong but you got to look out for number one and I feel like she was increasingly becoming a liability and the only way for him to like successfully navigate it like he doesn't have the housewife thing like that he can sit and vote for Lisa because

you know he could vote for Lisa I have no problem with him voting for Lisa last week this week at a certain point in the episode he led the charge. Yeah. In a like a underhanded kind of way.

Yeah. And that to me that's like that's beyond like being a trader because that your loyalty is to the traders I guess up until a point but I just felt like we weren't at that point

at that point yet. No, he definitely escalated felt like really premature to like

Yes. Traders war and there's still like 10 people left. Like I don't think I And they're like not going to win then.

They're not going to figure it out either. Like they they were far from figuring it out. This does make it messier.

Yeah. But it also makes it really hard to hunt traitors if the traitors are fighting with the traitor. So it is also a good

Yeah. Because you could argue anything. Oh, they voted for them because they know they're a trader that was a fellow traitor or they're a trader who wants to kill the faithful. Like Yeah. So you have to just be the most compelling arguer.

Yes. That's what it is. And Lisa was really not like she was bad. And I feel like she's so, you know, like I feel like for a lot of the housewives except for Candace cuz Candace is able to like, you know, hang with the people.

She's a real girl. become friends with everyone, but Lisa Ren is like an entity and it's like she's not going to ever be everyone's best friend cuz she's just like iconic and not interested.

She's not going to be like a low like a down low hang out chilling kind of girl

like robbing the guys and Candace and the girls. So like she was in a sort of a tough spot. Even if she was

kind of like Donna Kelsey, even if she was a faithful, I don't know how she would have acted

actually. I think she would have been very housewife like cuz it's it's easy to be a faithful. You don't have this chip on your shoulder. So, I think she would have been a more housewives coded version of herself.

Yeah, I think that's Rob. Oh, and Rob's saying maybe it's a turret full of housewives. That was brilliant.

Yeah. Hopefully they go for Dinda next. And they get it wrong. First of all, Direinda voting for Mora and spelling her name Mira. Like, how did she spelled it like?

M O R A. There's an E in there. M O E R A. Funny how they spell each other's names.

Hilarious. Um, Mora is like giving nothing. And I actually appreciated Darrena being like, "You're you just come here and you like are such a follower and you like say nothing, you do nothing." Yeah, Mora's not a traitor, but she sucks. Like, sorry. I liked that Darrena came for her.

I agree. And she's just another one in the Colt and Rob voting block. She's like a mark.

And all she has going for at this point is her potential of falling in love with Rob.

With Rob um and then Rob having to turn on his lady love and his best friend. I can't [ __ ] wait.

Yeah. So, also that rumor that we heard that Rob and um Candace aren't speaking, like it does seem like they

Yeah, they're they don't come back together. So, when they get in the turret, I was really curious to see them talk and that's why they cut off the episode, but that will be weird.

Yeah. And it's like Rob is playing a really good game. He's a really good traitor and he's turning on everyone and but it's at a point giving psychopath.

Yeah. Um it seems like Lisa Rena did not watch one episode of this show before coming on and Rob maybe watched every single one of them a little too closely. Like he came in. He is so smart about this one thing.

Yeah, it's weird. And that he was able to guess who had the dagger. Oh my god, that was insane. Okay, so I was like following his line of thinking and I was like, well, it's obviously Steven because Steven picked up the plank and then like shook his head. No. And it's like, okay, well, only a liar would do that. Like it was such a weird

Steven is an honest man. It's true. Actually, that was sociopathic. I'm telling you. And so, yes, he's playing a good game, but like at what cost? Like, Grant, you're the best liar.

So, the thing is, it's also really interesting like the varying levels of fame of all these people because the pot I think last season was like around $250,000 is where they ended up. And like for someone like Tiffany, she was saying like I'm a single mom. Like, she won one show once. Like, she's not a celebrity. The money actually means more to people than others. And I think like Lisa Renev, it was 250K and she split it with everyone. Like, great, but like whatever. Um, but I think for someone like Rob who like his time is a little bit past in terms of celebrity, he definitely still makes like a nice living, but he lives on his farm and he's not like, you know, out here being a celebrity, even though now he's so huge. I saw him in a sauna commercial.

Did you say about No, I was going to say I don't think Rob falls into that category. He was on Love Island the most popular season two years ago. I think he gets brand deals up the wazu and lives a quiet life.

Well, he does live a quiet life. So, I don't think he needs that much. She's Instagram,

but I think like he's an Instagram thought, but I think the money like it's not really a level playing field for everyone. Like

I would think Colton needs the money more than Rob. I don't know. I keep every time I open my TikTok there's a first ad for Nanet from Colton Underwood.

What? It's insane. Um, okay. Rob has 1.6 million followers and they're fresh. Yeah. And I also I'm going to go down to like before traders. So this is November. Okay. Wait, 2024.

Yeah, that's before. Oh. Oh, he doesn't post. He never posts. And he has 1.6 million followers.

Oh, Celsius partner in October. Oh my god. Everything is an ad. Arby's. Arby's.

Yeah. T-Mobile. Every single post is an ad. Real Zachbies. I know that. Hey dude. I'm at every single I'm not even scrolling. Chili's skinny dipped.

Organic post. Organic post. Organic post. Okay. At 1.6 million followers. Real Zach Bees again. T-Mobile, I'm not skipping. Me undies. I'm not skipping. Tic Tac. I'm not skipping. Organic post. Revolve organic post. Poppy. Revolve. Organic post. Tinder. Wow. So many ads. No, you're right.

So, he doesn't fall into the category. No. Um, he's so cute, by the way. I just like I love him.

Yeah. No, he's really cute and I like him, but I I didn't like it. I can't I just ring the wrong

I didn't hate it. like Lisa at some point like it's oh and I just want to say the whole episode was so overhyped like the banquet Alan coming saying this when you hear banquet what

so we got like that was just marketing I thought it was like I thought Allan was being real with us and he's just being a an

a marketer no like a corporate cog like that was insane it was a good it was good it was interesting

it wasn't I thought last week was better I thought the Michael Colton episode was better

no but the pulling jam Jamway I was cracking up like I I get what like that was completely overhyped

fifth and final fifth and final was tell Tell me Li's recap. Okay. So much TV was watched last night. Thank god.

Such a good episode. First of all, um, they didn't do any wedding flashbacks. It was just like kind of an episode about people in college and I was enjoying it. I loved the wriggly. Bri, she's a very good actress. It was so pathetic. Like

the whole mom thing and I don't I didn't know where it was going, but it seemed like fine. But the drinking was like, is this bad? No, it was definitely like imperfect, you know, and maybe she's setting herself up for disappointment, but it was more so about Wrigley being there for her.

Now, I need to go back and watch the wedding. Like, is her mom there? Oh, I don't know.

I love Wriggley. Like, I just couldn't love him anymore. And like, when are him and Pipa going to break up,

right? And he's did so right by Pipa. He didn't kiss. No, Pippa wouldn't give a [ __ ]

No, I know. But like, as far as he knows, no, he's not been a bad guy. He's been very loyal. He comes and picks Pip up, always kisses her, and Pippa can't dump him because like he's going through a lot.

The Chris thing at that pool party like gave me a chill down my spine. I was like, who the [ __ ] is that?

No. And he's like, why are you saying that you like it's a valid question except the fact that we know that he does this,

right? He also like So, yes, he didn't do that, but he doesn't recognize that he does that to other people.

Yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah. And like Pippa gives me a pit. Like the whole show is so pit. They should call it tell me pit.

Give me pit. It is so pit inducing. Yeah. Um, what else happened in the episode?

D, my queen. I I I'm disappointed in her cuz like she's putting a target on her back. Yeah.

Stephen sent those photos. I can't imagine that a law school is going to get someone's nude photos from their ex-boyfriend and then kick them out of school for what?

I don't know. You have to remember it's like 200 something. Like things like that did happen.

No, but like it's not 1950. Like No, I know. And but what would be her crime? Unless he sent it from her email where it's like, "Hey guys."

I mean, and then she says, "Hey, that wasn't me." And they'd be like, "Clearly?" Cuz only a crazy person would do that. I don't know. I don't know what the angle is. Is it just that like if you're a lawyer, you can't have nude photos? Like

who did he send it to? I would assume like admissions. I would assume emissions everywhere except Yale. So that she has to go there.

He is just the devil. Yeah. And do we assume she went through with the um procedure?

Yes. Okay. Yes. She was cramping. Oh, yeah. But she just said, "No, but it was like the proceed the reason plotwise for the pregnancy was for her to be into orbit again."

Yeah. And make them entangled once more. Mhm. Um Yeah. I saw people saying it was like a bad episode. Not a lot happened, but I enjoyed it.

Yeah. It's a great show. Oh, Lucy like tried to, you know, have sex just the regular way and it's clearly not enough for her. So, yes, things are escalating and you are 100% right. She's engaging in harmful behavior and it's not enough. So, she's then, you know, you know, uh, harming herself verbally and it's just a matter of time before she harms herself physically.

Yeah. But especially because that guy now looks at her differently because he thinks that she has trauma and that's why she's doing all

right. And he was like, "Oh, I thought we were just having fun, but like this is giving dark so he won't do it anymore."

He actually turned out to be a sweetie. So, it turns out like that'll be the last we see of him cuz she's not going back.

Yeah. And so now she's engaging in like, you know, dark behavior. Yeah. Which is not good.

And self harm. And it seems like in, you know, the future at the wedding, like she's still not healed.

No. And that's that's upsetting. Yeah. She's like the same at the wedding. Yeah. And that's tough to to see.

I can't believe last season she had sex with Steven at the wedding. Yeah. And Steven's the same, too. He's still like, you know, he's looking through Wrigley's phone. And

maybe they are perfect for each other. I wonder why Wrigley and Bri don't end up together. Like, yes, it's complicated in college, you know. I'm sure Pipa and Pippa and him break up, so at some point.

Yeah. And Pippa knows that he loves Bri. Oh, does he? Yeah. She said like when they were dancing on the dance floor, Pippa and Wriggley and they were like talking openly about it.

So, it must be that Bri I mean I think when B, you know, Bree's childhood being like sort of traumatic, there's a lot of stability with Evan. He really loves her. He's very financially stable. And I think when you grow up like foster home to foster home, like you crave that. So yes, love wins, but not all the time. Sometimes stability wins.

Yeah. Something obviously happens between the two of them where she feels like she has to make that choice.

I like Evan. Also, Steven brought I love Evan. Oh, I [ __ ] hate Molly. I know. And it's like that exchange was really sad.

But you know what? Like valid on Evan's part. Like I said a hundred times. Yeah.

That this is just casual sex, which is awful, but she agreed to it, right? And when they were playing pool and Wrigley was like, "Well, did you ghost her or did you tell her that it's over?" And he was like, "I never told her that it started." Like I know Wrigley's like, you know, the feminist voice in of the men. But I I I don't think Evan and I imagine that it's just such a shitty feeling for Molly, but like

he said what he said. When people tell you who they are, believe them. Yeah. He's been harsh, but honest.

Yeah. Yeah. And when he said to Bri, like I would stop talking to her in one second if you told me to. I need Evan to get on Wrigley's level when it comes to Steven. Why does Steven have this whole he's like gets to walk through his apartment and leave the dishes and he paid for the sister?

Well, that was because Evan slept with Lucy. But now they're even, right? So, like he needs to stop hanging out.

They They're each other's friends. It's the last semester of senior year. These are your friends. What are you going to go make new friends?

Yeah. But now Yeah. And he also I think Steven does roll off his shoulder a little bit now, too. Like he knows that he doesn't have the power over him. Um he doesn't like he's not beholdened to Stephen.

Yeah. But Bree's starting to put pieces together about Lucy and Evan. But I do think she'll Well, she already knows cuz at the wedding she got the voicemail. Y

she seemed hurt but not surprised. Yeah. And at some point like you kind of just got to let it go.

Yeah. Like it's fine. Yeah. And it's like she likes Evan but she doesn't like love him,

right? So it's not going to be like heartbroken like this is sort of a marriage of convenience at this point. Like he really wants to be with Bri. So you know what? be with Ray.

Yeah. Let's dive into Queenie and weenie. Our final segment of the week where Jackie and I deliver two awards. Queen of the week and weenie of the week. It comes as no surprise. Let's just say together who our queenie is on the count of three. One, two, three. Queen Corgi.

Um, and I'm Do we have the same weenie? Who's your weenie? Passo for meeting me. Like I couldn't say it then. I have to say it now.

Pug. I said to Ben, I'm like, I have to think of my Queenie and we like this morning. I was like, I'm thinking of doing Picasso. And he goes, who's Pugasso? Like seriously? I said, are you [ __ ] serious? And he was like, oh yeah, I know. I know.

No, I actually I like Picasso. My weenie would be the audience members who voted for Pugaso over Queenie cuz Picasso didn't do anything wrong. He was being himself. He was singing his best with his fantastic costume.

But the audience members who didn't see true talent and I feel like that win for you, like you needed that win.

Yeah. Mentally and emotionally and they didn't get it. They hurt you. Yeah. So I blame them for everything.

I actually have a really funny story about me losing. I'll share it on the Patreon. It's so funny.

Okay. We're about to record that. So, this is actually a great segue for us to like sit right here and continue our conversation.

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Who speaks in "The Accidental Matriarch: Friday, January 30th, 2026"?

Jackson Claude (Host), Jacqui (Guest).

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This content highlights the engaging banter between hosts Jackson and Jacqui as they discuss their loyal fanbase and the popularity of their content, including a special episode on Patreon focusing on one host's experience with "The Masked Singer." They emphasize the importance of their subscription service for exclusive episodes, which includes various segments and behind-the-scenes insights…

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