Tiny Violins: Wednesday, January 21st, 2026

What this episode is about

The discussion centers on a chaotic Wednesday morning filled with personal anecdotes and reflections on ongoing news topics, particularly a significant and emotionally charged issue involving a person named Victoria. The hosts navigate their own struggles while engaging in spirited debate about the evolving narrative surrounding current events, highlighting both lighthearted moments and serious concerns.

Key takeaways

• Spilling makeup mishaps can spark clever solutions—call your sister for quick fixes or invent your own!
• Public family feuds can feel like tragic theater; when drama meets disappointment, how do you cheer for your own?
• AI-generated humor can turn absurd, highlighting the fine line between funny and inappropriate in celebrity culture.
• Is Brooklyn's protective outburst rooted in a potential pregnancy? Early parenthood can ignite fierce instincts.
• Spirited debates on social media offer both connection and chaos; how much laundry is too much to air publicly?

Who speaks in this episode?

• Jackson Claude (Host) · 29 min speaking
• Kira (Guest) · 29 min speaking
• Jackie (Guest) · 15 min speaking
• Victoria (Host) · 4 min speaking
• Susie Weiss (Guest) · 4 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Tell Me Lies, Brooklyn Beckham Peltz, Ryan Reynolds, Wild Dor Shore
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Thrive Market, Fabletics, Armra Colostrum, Justin Baldoni
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Justin Baldoni
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Jacob Lordy, Tell Me Lies, Ryan Reynolds
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Nanit, Jacob Lordy
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Tell Me Lies
7. 1:10:00 – 1:12:44: The COVID-19 pandemic

Notable quotes from "Tiny Violins: Wednesday, January 21st, 2026"

• I had that thought, too, because he mentioned our future children twice.

  about Brooklyn Beckham Peltz · at 4:18

• Wait. I watched the first episode of tell me lies.

  about Tell Me Lies · at 6:33

• I don't think it's a bad book. Everyone loves it. It's Reese's. It's like the craw dads and I do feel like it's trying to be crawads.

  about Wild Dor Shore · at 8:25

• Sounds like one of those two good to be true situations, but it is not. It is very much real. The quality of Fabletics is what surprised me the most, and I think you guys will…

  about Fabletics · at 11:36

• Today's episode is also brought to you by Armra Colostrum.

  about Thrive Market · at 12:41

• On TikTok who want to have sex with Justin Baldon. It's well, there are now three women on record saying like he was inappropriate, he was creepy, he said inappropriate things…

  about Justin Baldoni · at 24:46

• And I felt quite lost like a kid without their blanket or something. We have a mutual obsession. He agreed. If you have the opportunity to share a film set with Margot Robbie…

  about Jacob Lordy · at 39:42

• You're a part of that group and you have not finished building your registry yet, listen up. The Nanx smart baby monitor is hands down our number one registry recommendation.…

  about Nanit · at 47:21

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Justin Baldoni — Person · Primary referenced subject (celebrity/legal dispute) · 3 mentions · first at 19:59
  Discussed as the opposing party to Blake Lively in a dispute involving film editing, alleged inappropriate behavior, and public narrative/PR fallout.
• Brooklyn Beckham Peltz — Person · Primary referenced subject (family feud topic) · 2 mentions · first at 3:28
  Key figure in the episode’s earlier debate about a public family conflict involving the Beckham family and Nicola Peltz; hosts discuss motivations and public airing of family issues.
• Jacob Lordy — Person · Referenced celebrity (entertainment news item) · 5 mentions · first at 38:36
  Mentioned in a story about Margot Robbie describing an intense/‘codependent’ dynamic while filming; name appears to be a misspelling of Jacob Elordi in the transcript.
• Ryan Reynolds — Person · Referenced celebrity (in leaked communications) · 3 mentions · first at 5:22
  Appears as part of an unredacted group chat with Blake Lively and Matt Damon (and spouse), used to illustrate how far-reaching the legal document disclosures are.
  Text messages came out, the unredacted Ben Affleck emails, the unredacted group chat between Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and Matt Damon and his wife. and shout out to the girls on TikTok cuz Jackie was Who has time to read all these text.
• Brandon Cruz — Person · Referenced individual · 1 mention · first at 2:14
  Mentioned as a family member supported by Victoria Beckham in the context of the Beckham family drama.
  One of their music videos. And then her third was supporting Cruz or Romeo, I forget which one it was. I think he's like a performer and he had a performance sellout. So she posted the poster because she does support her family.
• Susie Weiss — Person · Referenced commentator (friend/source of theory) · 1 mention · first at 4:06
  Credited with a theory about the Beckham/Peltz conflict possibly being influenced by a pregnancy; presented as someone whose opinion the hosts respect.
  Okay, like just in case this theory is true, like it was from Susie Weiss. She had a good theory because we were like gossiping about it and I she's someone whose opinion I respect. She's also a very family oriented person. So I'm.

Books & papers

• Wild Dor Shore — Book · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 8:16
  Discussed as a current buzzy book that the hosts are reading and have mixed feelings about.
• Confessions of a Shopaholic — Book · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 8:39
  Mentioned as a preferable book to read over the current buzzy book the hosts are discussing.
  Like when you could be reading Confessions of a Shopaholic and you would choose to read this.

Places & events

• The COVID-19 pandemic — Event · Referenced event · 3 mentions · first at 4:33
  Mentioned in passing as part of a broader discussion.
  What was the boiling point that he had to put his foot down? it's been rather quiet.

Media & podcasts

• Tell Me Lies — Media · Referenced work · 5 mentions · first at 6:33
  Mentioned as a TV show that causes anxiety but is engaging and immersive.

Sponsors

• Thrive Market — Product · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at 14:06
  Promoted as an online grocery service offering healthier food options for families.
• Fabletics — Product · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at 11:15
  Promoted as a premium athleisure brand offering high-quality workout clothes at affordable prices.
• Armra Colostrum — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 12:41
  Promoted as a health supplement with benefits for immune health, gut health, and recovery.
  Today's episode is also brought to you by Armra Colostrum.
• Nanit — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 47:11
  Promoted as a smart baby monitor providing parents with peace of mind and sleep insights.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:04 Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing.

0:25 Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday day. Wednesday. What a weird week. Not complaining.

0:31 No. Thank you to Martin Luther. Um, happy Wednesday, Jackie. It's hump day. A very special day of the week. Kira, how you doing?

0:38 I'm doing good. My morning was all far clemped because last night I like spilled all over my makeup. I had to wash my makeup brushes. They were like still a little damp this morning and it was just a cluster [ __ ] And we're interviewing someone today for tomorrow's episode. Not to like tease, but

0:53 there's a lot at stake visually today. There's a lot at stake visually today. And I was like, "Of course." Today when there's a lot at stake visually, my bronzer brush is a little damp.

1:01 You know, like just a quick fix. Had you called your sister Ty just run it under the blowd dryer. It'll be dry in 10 seconds.

1:07 Oh, true. I was sitting there with my blow dryer, but I had this new little nifty machine, so I just like kept running it in the dry cycle. It didn't work. But um

1:15 Yeah. Well, if you were ever just call me. Work slowly. Your life would be better.

1:18 I couldn't call you cuz I couldn't talk cuz there was like a sleeping baby. It was just a lot. There was a lot going on.

1:23 Okay. So happy to be here. Wednesday. ings. The news keeps snoozing. The news keeps snoozing. Kind of a bombshell episode yesterday. Of course, you know, a myriad of reflections from people, feedback, good, bad, I disagree. Team Brooklyn, team whatever. Um, and I just love spirited debate. I do about nonsensical things. Although, like the deeper we get into this, it's really not nonsensical. It's unbelievably tragic.

1:46 No, we were talking last night. It's making me sick for Victoria. Like, I'm sick for her.

1:51 Did you see Victoria posted three Instagram stories this morning? No. And Nicola keeps posting nonsense like no caption, just like her in a pair of sweatpants like raating.

2:00 Yeah. Well, I you know, it is a good time for engagement. She posted it's Emma's birthday, Baby Spice. So, she posted happy birthday, Baby Victoria. Yeah. Happy birthday, Baby Spice. And then like an old real like a clip from one of their music videos. And then her third was um supporting Cruz or Romeo, I forget which one it was. I I think he's like a performer and he had a a performance um sellout. So she posted the poster

2:22 because she does support her family members. So proud of you at Cruz. Well, that's giving like what you said is a lie because I support my children,

2:29 right? It was like a little heavy-handed. Well, I'm just sick for her. Like imagine like the person who's like making your life a misery who you're like feuding beefing with in the public like is your own child. So you can't even really root against them,

2:39 right? Of course. You know what I mean? Like you don't want to see someone talking like

2:43 clowning on your child. But then there's also now like AI generated sexually suggestive content about you. Um, I like posted one and I thought it was funny and then I saw them getting like progressively more graphic and I was like, "Wait, this actually isn't funny." So, it's like people are making sexually explicit content about your mom and whose fault it is is it. It's kind of yours. So, it's just actually a really complicated.

3:00 I haven't seen anything like super inappropriate. The ones I've seen so far have been really funny. It's like AI generated videos of the way that Victoria was probably dancing at the wedding and it's like silly and it's like the break dancer from the Olympics. Like that's all funny and good.

3:12 Yeah. I saw them like, you know, getting more, you know, suggestive and like tighter clothes.

3:15 Well, that's what he had said. Correct. the the uh what how insinuation. That's my girl. I was gonna say the impression, but that's not right. The insinuation was was made by by one Brooklyn Beckham Peltz, excuse me.

3:30 Yeah. So, it's it's honestly sad and like I know a lot of people are on Brooklyn side and I I understand when you like lay when you look at it, it's like

3:38 of course, how could you be toxic mother? I'm just like I'm never going to side with that person who did that.

3:43 That's exactly exactly my tweet. someone who's airing the family laundry, barring anything absolutely crazy and disgusting happening. Um, I'm never going to be on your side.

3:54 Um, and uh, you know, I was chatting with a friend of mine who had a really interesting theory. Um, I want to give credit, but like

4:04 what's the problem? Okay, like just in case this theory is true, like it was from Susie Weiss. She had a good theory because we were like gossiping about it and I she's someone whose opinion I respect. She's also a very family oriented person. So I'm like,

4:14 what do you make of it? She said, "You know, I feel like maybe Nicola could be pregnant."

4:18 I had that thought, too, because he mentioned our future children twice. And like, this is such a fiercely protective thing of Brooklyn to do for his wife. You know, it seems like it's been a really bad situation for a long time. But like, why now? Why this Instagram story?

4:31 Like, what was the boiling point that he had to put his foot down? Like, it's been rather quiet.

4:35 And, you know, he's a young boy perhaps on the brink of fatherhood for the first time, and that can send you into like a really overprotective overdrive. So, that was Susie's thought, which I actually thought was quite poignant. Yeah,

4:46 there's potential, you know, potential. I I thought the same when he talked about their future children that there's, you know, maybe they're thinking about children, but I don't think she's pregnant.

4:57 Yeah. So, all that to say, we will of course continue be speaking about, but I wouldn't speculate on on woman's pregnancy or body.

5:04 Um, there's also lots of Justin Baloney Blake Lively news. I feel like they've been kind of quiet. Things have been coming out over the last couple of months. nothing worth reporting on. And I feel like it's just like for the people who are really obsessed with it. But so much the unredacted Taylor Swift um text messages came out, the unredacted Ben Affleck emails, the unredacted group chat between Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and Matt Damon and his wife. Like, and shout out to the girls on TikTok cuz Jackie was like, "Who has time to read all these text messages?" I'm like, "Certainly not me."

5:30 Like, I want to see a screenshot of the text. I know, but not a court document,

5:33 right? It's like all transcribed and written out in paragraphs. Like, I need to see the text. That's how I can process texts. When I was getting my makeup done this morning, like the girls on Tik Tok who are obsessed, they put their own spin on it and they all hate Blake Lively. So, I was just trying to be unbiased listening that when I was doing my makeup, I put the TikTok on and they read me all the text messages which was so delightful. So, I read the ones between Blake and Taylor and they are exactly what you think they are. Like two feminist women like that. How you think Blake and Taylor talk to one another is how they I'm your Khesi, you're my dragon. Like so like you could say what you want about the two of them.

6:06 They are who they are. like it's so authentic. Then I read the uh group text between Lucy and Matt Damon with Blake and Ryan. Then I read this kind of turn email that Blake wrote to Matt Dh Ben Affleck. Um and then also like this letter that she wrote to the producers guild which is kind of

6:25 what did she write to Ben Affleck? So at this stage a lot of the documents that were being is this a story? Like do we should we get into the stories?

6:33 Wait. I watched the first episode of tell me lies. We're going to talk about tell me lies. I'm putting in the work and I just told Ben cuz what's been holding me back obviously is like my will to watch it but also like I get into bed here like

6:44 Oh, is that my nanet? Oh, sorry. The nanet is always on. I'm so sorry. Wait, it's not even on. That's crazy. Hold on. Everyone be quiet. Oh, hi sweetie. I love you so much.

6:54 Okay, sorry about that. Nap time. Um, I watched the first episode of Tommy Lies and what was holding me back was obviously like I really was like not in the mood to watch it because it gives me terrible anxiety.

7:06 Um, but also like I'm just kind of stuck with this hanger honor. Betty's like what are we watching? I'm like

7:10 we're watching season 3 of Tell Me Lies. So, we were like scrolling last night trying to watch them and I'm like, "Listen, just pay attention. We're watching episode 3." Like season 3, episode one. We watched the intro previously on and there was so much to catch up on. He was so lost.

7:25 I wouldn't expect him to be found. like he just has to sort of resign to the fact that he's not going to get it and he can scroll on this phone.

7:30 That's exactly what he ended up doing. And then we ended up watching Martha after for him. I watched one episode.

7:34 That's compromise. That's marriage. I'm getting caught up. I'm putting in the work. And I just want to say like the show it gives me such bad anxiety. Um especially

7:44 it gives me two but in like a good way of like I feel something like I'm on the edge of my seat

7:49 and I'm I'm in it. I'm enraptured whereas like we can't get off our phones on other shows. And it's really hard for me to care about like fictional TV show. Like it's just made up [ __ ] So like I like that this show immerses me and that I care cuz all the only other stuff I watch is reality.

8:06 Yes. And so um I only watch first episode but I'm putting in the work. We're talking a little bit about Tommy Lies. Um anything else you want to chit chat about? A little pref.

8:13 I've been reading for the redheads. We're reading this like new buzzy book Wild Dor Shore or whatever. miserable book and I'm like 50% in and I'm really excited for the episode because

8:23 the worse the book the better the episode. I don't think it's a bad book. Everyone loves it. It's Reese's. It's like the craw dads and I I do feel like it's trying to be crawads.

8:32 And I'm just like you guys, why are you reading this? Like when you could be reading Confessions of a Shopaholic and you would choose to read this.

8:41 The Nighting Gale. You would choose to read something like this. you know, when Elle was on the red carpet, actually somebody asked her about the nighting gale,

8:48 someone who was obviously doing good work. I want to say it was Zuri Hall. Um, being like, "What's what's going on?" And she said she's so excited and it's on it's on its way allegedly.

9:00 And they're also being the Hilton Sisters, Ellen, and Dakota. Yeah. Shout out in a movie about their lives.

9:08 Oh, I love that. I wonder which one's coming first. I feel like different projects. I feel like the Hilton one. I've heard more about it.

9:16 That's great. I love that. Yeah, we don't know who's playing who, though. Um, well, Dakota's kind of always been the Paris, even though L is so having a moment. Also, I think I heard that L was older than Dakota, and it just like made no sense to me.

9:28 No, she's definitely not. I know. That's what I said. She's definitely not, but okay.

9:34 Who's older, Dakota or L? Fanning. Needs not said. Dakota is older than L. So obviously where I heard that was wrong

9:42 or you just are recalling it improperly. You know, maybe you talk about different siblings that you would think one's older.

9:50 Unlikely. Maybe it was about like Elizabeth and Mary Kate Olsson, you know, for sure

9:54 cuz one thing about me like I know I know all the players, but the way that Dakota and El Fanning like El Fanning is Elizabeth Olsen.

10:01 Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you agree. Yeah. I don't think that's like controversial. No, not at all.

10:06 I think it is. Yeah. No, people are going to be offended. It's like an insane take. Well, let's get into the stories because as we said, there's a lot to talk about. We're also doing Deer Toasters today.

10:14 As promised, the DTQ will be fed. And I would like to thank the Deer Toasters community for like, you know,

10:19 for keeping it in their pants. Yeah. What's the word? For like um sitting on their hands.

10:23 No, no, like where you like controlling themselves. Let me just explain what I'm looking for first. Like not giving into temptation where you're like not withholding but like

10:33 um willpower. No. What is it like for like a for lack of for like controlling themselves but like in a more sophisticated way?

10:43 Um, what did you say? Composure. No. All right. Whatever. For acting normal. I saw like I saw like one hate comment from the DTQ. For the most part, I feel like the DTQ understood.

10:54 I really think like aside from that one person, nobody yesterday was like, "What about you?"

10:59 Because the BPQ greater than the DTQ, the Beckham Pelts community. Yeah. and the Kyle and Amanda community.

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15:53 Now, the headline that people are running with are just like, well, the song canceled is now confirmed about Blake Lively. And it's like, my god, people are so dense. Like, in their text messages, they're talking extensively. Taylor was like, this is her best friend. Her best friend is going through this like major thing.

16:09 And what is Taylor going what is Blake going through in this moment of texting?

16:13 Okay, so in this moment of texting, it's about this edit. So, apparently Justin Maldoni was editing the movie for like months and Blake like hated him and hated everything that he did. And the studio, I guess, hated it too because they were like, Blake, you can come up with your own pass. she had 10 or 12 days to edit the entire movie and they were going to show it to two two different focus groups. We know that they did and Justin's version one. Um, and they're talking about the edit and like where to use Taylor's music and Taylor is like, "Well, I'm your ally and he, you know, he shouldn't use the music." Like they're so in it together.

16:45 Um and TA and I guess some stuff had started to come out in the press cuz Taylor said, you know, obviously um he's like gone into like um offensive mode um being like a little [ __ ] Like they are so in the

17:00 Yeah. He said she said, "I think this [ __ ] knows something is coming because he's gotten out his tiny violin."

17:05 And so now everyone's like, "Well, tiny violin is a lyric in cancelled. Did you bring a tiny violin to a knife fight?" And it's like, do you think Taylor was referencing her own personal text messages?

17:14 No, but that's just how she speaks about people who play the victim then. Yes, that could be anyone.

17:19 Yeah, I agree. I don't think at all this is a confirmation that this song is about Lively. I agree

17:23 because also as far as we know, her and Blake aren't friends anymore. So, the song wouldn't make any sense because she says she likes her friends canceled.

17:30 Yeah. So, I never thought the song was about Blake Lively. And to me, and it would be about Justin Baldon, actually. He's the one with a tiny violin here. But I think that's just like a term she uses when someone is playing the victim.

17:39 It's a good term. It is a good term. That's like what every that's what all everyone was tagging me and I'm like there's so much more interesting stuff here. There to me there's two things. One that everyone's talking about which is like just the high level of cringe of Blake Lively in this moment. So she has her edit. She has 10 days to make an edit. So she reaches out to Matt Damon and Blake and um

17:56 Ben Affleck. They started Artist Equity. They're huge filmmakers. Like they know everything. So she was asking them both individually to watch her version. Um and there's like this program obviously like people use it's called Pix. She's like, "I'll give you my login. Call me for the onetime passcode." Um, so the the thread between her and the demons was released. And they're like, "Yeah, sure. We'll watch it." She was like, "Your kids can watch it if they like the book. Just know it talks about domestic violence. Here, I'll give you my code.

18:24 Here's what's been going on." This filmmaker/producer financer is a crazy person. He's in a cult. He asked, they're talking about how, you know, he called Blake's trainer and asked how much she weighed two weeks after giving birth because he has low bone density and he needs to be in shape to lift her. And so they're just like telling Matt and Lucy and Matt and Lucy are like, "Wow, this is crazy."

18:43 Oh, also that's great to know how Blake sees it like just straight up without legal docs like what was going on and how she described the situation. That's really helpful. And then she sort of wrote similarly to we don't know what Ben Affleck responded because she just wrote this long really cringy email like oh hope you're doing well if you got to the end of this email. Oh my god you're such a good friend like really like just exactly what you would think she talks like is how she talks. Um, so she was reaching out to people in her life who she clearly was close with, like or is close with because she felt comfortable enough to ask them to watch a movie, which I guess maybe Matt Damon and Ben Affleck get asked a lot, but it did seem like a big ask. Like she was like, I'm not sure if you know like about this.

19:21 It's been like the nightmare of my life and here yada yada. It is a big ask, but if you're friends and this is your specialty, like I would if my close friend was launching a podcast, I would listen to the first episode and give you my thoughts. It was clear that Blake really wanted her edit to win, right? She pulled out every gun in her arsenal and still lost.

19:40 Yeah. Now, that is what everyone's talking about. Although, I feel like, of course, like I do think that things are so slanted when it comes to this cuz no one's really also talking about that in everything that's been released, there's now like two other female co-stars who did testify that Justin Beldon was inappropriate. We know Jenny Slate. And then her text message was released being like, "He is the most crazy, intense narcissist. I cannot wait for this project to be over. He is so creepy and weird. And then the actress who plays Little Blake said that in the scene where she loses her virginity to Atlas, like the throwback scene, um he like ended it and said to her like, "That was really hot." Even though it's a scene where like she's losing her virginity to like this homeless kid. Like it's like not a hot scene. Like it's like it's like it's like a deep scene. It's not hot. Yeah.

20:26 Like it's not meant to be hot. Yeah. It's emotional, right? So things are being like there's so much more things for Blake and her crime once again is being cringe and like being weird. I don't find anything that has been released yet to be

20:42 Oh, we need to talk about the producers's guild. Okay. So So who released these text messages? Who what does it prove?

20:48 It's unredacted. It's unreleased. It's not released. It's not public information. Like the trial is starting.

20:52 But whose side does this prove? It depends who you want whose side you're on and who you want to argue for.

20:57 What does this prove? I don't know. It's also just the text messages are so personal. I don't 100% see how they're relevant. Like it just makes you like really And I saw this girl on TikTok and it's so true. She's like, "This is an a reminder." Like

21:11 not to put [ __ ] in writing. Like you think you're just helping your friend out with her work issue and now you're in court. Like it's insane. It's such an invasion.

21:18 It is. It's messed up. It is like not Lucy Damon. Like she was just like being a support of a friend. I don't want to hear your voice notes and I feel self-conscious when I'm leaving them cuz I just don't feel like they're at the level of entertainment that a voice note should be at. Like maybe we should be leaving more voice notes.

21:33 It's definitely made me think twice about like helping my friend out with her workplace drama

21:37 or maybe we need like an app where it's just not like it just cuz you can't even talk [ __ ] in peace.

21:44 So not like it's like you're not even doing anything criminal. You just want to talk [ __ ] in peace. the producers guild letter which is really like it's an insane letter again like you can see how she speaks and she's just like a really impassioned cringy like feminist and like how she talks is how she talks. So she writes this letter to the production guild association basically being like here's a list of all the things I've done for this project because it's a cluster [ __ ] and nobody here knows what they're doing and the writer producer director finance year is a first time at all this and he knows nothing and he's an idiot and I'm smart and I'm big you're small I'm dumb.

22:16 So she lists out all the things that she writes this like precursor to the list being like I am impassioned woman and all of this I think in an attempt to get a like an executive producer credit being like I've done the work of an executive producer.

22:32 Um and so the whole issue is that she is the first lawsuit is like her I think it's title seven title nine I forget which one it is. It's an employment lawsuit where she is suing her employer. But this letter is like she wanted to be a producer in which case she wouldn't be an employee or she would be like an independent contractor. So this this letter like holds a lot of legal weight as to whether her lawsuit will be valid,

22:56 right? And also Justin Balon, I don't know if this is his legal claim, but at least like his public claim is that like Blake and Ryan tried to steal the movie from him and then, you know, get the second one and like take this whole thing that was meant to be his. And that letter, even though she's like listing out all the things that he did wrong, kind of proves that point that she's trying to take the movie. Whether it's because she thought he was incompetent or because she's just a movie stealer.

23:19 Well, based on that evidence, she really thought he was like the most incompetent and how it wasn't fair that he's not only financing the film, he is technically the head of the studio producing it, he's the director and the star. Um, he was spread too thin. This was his first time doing most of it on a set this big. And he was just incompetent. Like there is proof like of all these things that are being released which are really bad for Blake. There is proof that I don't believe it was malicious.

23:43 She really found him to be incompetent. Yeah. Not like her and Ryan being like this is movie is going to be gang busters. Let's get the next one. Let's push this guy out.

23:50 Now also and in the text messages there's a lot of times she's like referencing him and his cult and it's more so his religion which like isn't a good look. I don't know anything about it's called the Bahigh religion. She calls it a cult many times, especially because, you know, the head of Wayfair is Justin and this guy who's also Bahigh and he is super wealthy. He's this billionaire. He's financing this lawsuit entirely. So, um, she keeps referencing, you know, his religion as a cult, which is not good. Um, I don't know anything about it, but it's just like, you know, that's not good either.

24:20 I've not heard that. I don't know a lot about that religion. I've not heard that it's a cult.

24:25 Right. She's giving it like the Scientology treatment, right? You know, some people may, you know, people say all religion is a cult.

24:32 Right. Right. Is she a religious woman? Is I'm not getting the vibe. Yeah. So, um, it's obviously not looking good for Blake, but I feel like the heart of the matter is really being looked over, at least by like the girls on TikTok who want to have sex with Justin Baldon. It's like, well, there are now three women on record saying like he was inappropriate, he was creepy, he said inappropriate things, HR violations, which is like really what the start of this whole thing was.

25:02 Yeah. And that's the little Lily, Jenny Slate, and Blake Lively. Yeah. And the faux feminist allegations, of course.

25:12 Um, crime. But it just seems as though Taylor and Blake were like a fake feminist.

25:17 We're so in this together. Yeah. And why aren't they friends anymore? That's what

25:22 when she said, "I'll always have your back." Now, the Baldon um stands have sort of surmised that, you know, Taylor found out that Blake was making all this up.

25:32 No, that's what they think. I don't think I don't think that she's making all it up. I think she that's how she experienced it. But also like well I guess lesson learned don't sign on to a project with a firsttime director, actor, financeier, producer. Um but that was like the board going into it and she's made many a movie.

25:51 No. And say what you want about Justin Baldoni like he sought out the project. Like he bought the script.

25:56 This was his It's not a crime to do it for the first time. It's his first time on Earth too,

26:00 right? It was his project to [ __ ] up. Like he sought out Colleen. He bought the right like his studio. Also, his cut was chosen. Even after Blake and all of her Khesi Dragons did the the most on their big one on her cut, they still liked his better. The movie did really well. There's nothing wrong with the movie.

26:20 Not that I saw it. I watched it. Right. But I had some issues with it, but overall it was a very good movie.

26:24 Audience feedback like it was a real movie. He made a movie. Absolutely. So, it's not like he put together some atrocity

26:31 and we wouldn't see it. Whatever he made is what we saw and he made a real movie. I don't know why it was so abhorent to her.

26:38 Yeah. Yeah. And hers was worse than that cuz allegedly. Yeah. Like No, but they had two focus groups watch the movies and they chose Justin. That's as objective as you can get.

26:49 No, it's really crazy that she pulled out like every connection she had to edit this film and she didn't win.

26:57 But you said earlier that like the studio also didn't like Justin. That's why they gave her attendees. In her document, she said that Sony has asked her to come up with another version.

27:08 Maybe that's her version of events and she was so angry and Sony said, "Sure, put together your own version. We'll test it." Like knowing it would fly.

27:13 Yeah. Not like Justin's really bad, Blake. Come save us. They're like plating to her.

27:16 Blake, save us in 10 days. Right. Okay. Yeah. Now, I don't remember like what we're all even fighting for anymore. Like, if Blake wins, what does she get? If Justin wins, what does he get? They've both been really tarnished by this. I don't agree. If Blake wins, she gets nothing. If Justin wins, he gets salvation. Like

27:36 like he gets his It to me it doesn't really matter what the docks say because sorry what the court says because I do believe people have made up their mind on this and like I do think Blake Lively's career is effectively over because of it.

27:51 But she's around. She's everywhere. Yeah. Like a like a lunatic kind of like acting like No. Like I think she's just ignoring it, moving on with her life. I don't see her getting another legitimate project for like a decade. Honestly, I and her friendship with Taylor is over. I feel like this whole saga has ruined Blake Lively's career. I don't feel that way about Justin Baldon.

28:11 Well, she had a bigger career to lose. She had more to lose and you know, I think he was doing like making his own projects anyway and doing like weird little things. He can keep he can still do that.

28:21 And like at the end of the day for him, it was like a rising tides raise all ships. He was this very lesser known. He was in one show and he had a cult following from his podcast, but like he was not a household name by any means. He is now.

28:32 Yeah. Whether he likes it or not, but I don't know if that's going to translate to movie roles.

28:35 No, I I think for the most part people would want to stay away from both of them. Like who the [ __ ] wants this?

28:40 Yeah. But you'd be surprised what people can come back from. It's so the right person wants to help you. Like you get into the next big movie and it's over. We forget about the thing that Oh, remember when we used to talk about that all the time? Like

28:51 Yeah. But we're just like still talking about it cuz it's an active Yeah. And it's not going to be over till Oh, I guess coming up 2 months. Wow. That year flew.

28:58 Mhm. But it's just beginning. Yeah. Yeah. But then it will be over. And I'm saying like you really would be surprised what people can forget.

29:06 It's true. Look at us. Colton. Look at Colton. Yeah. Well, we didn't for like we forget stuff all the time. You're like, remember when that was crazy?

29:13 Yeah. Yeah. So, I have hope for both of them. And I think they'll need like powerful friends, which she has slash had.

29:21 I know. And he has his friend guy with the Now if I'm Lucy and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, like I'm pissed.

29:28 But they don't come off badly. They're trying to help their friend. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just like who wants to be dragged into this?

29:37 I don't know. I I my honestly, if anything, I find them favorable. That's a nice thing to do for a friend.

29:42 Yeah, of course. And yeah, it's not it's not over. Like you can come back. Yeah. But in terms of this saga, like I do feel like it's over. Like the internet has decided like Blake is the villain and Justin was her her victim and he almost had his life and career ruined by this evil witch and now he's saving himself.

30:06 Well, he does need to save like he he did. If he didn't do launch this legal battle, he was done.

30:12 He was done. Now it's like it's just more they're both done. Yeah. Right. It's so true.

30:17 But he was done. Yes. Yeah. Okay. You ready for our next story? The best story of the year. Razy nominations.

30:23 Okay. This is kind of like our Super Bowl. This is our Super Bowl. But Super Bowl, but unfortunately I really don't know a lot of these projects. So

30:30 Well, that means they should get Razies. Yeah. I guess I didn't like watch that much stuff. But worst picture, the um category, we're going to go through the categories. Category biggest one. Worst picture. The electric state.

30:41 Never heard of it. Hurry up tomorrow. Snow White. Who's Rachel Zer? Winner. Star Trek.

30:50 Was that this year? That's insane. I I mean, was it even bad or it was just like

30:56 It was like It had the It Ends With Us like so much drama it overshadowed the actual movie. People it ends with us actual film and people don't even like but but I do believe it was terrible between of course like the Rachel Zgler Galgado anti-semitism but then also like the dwarfs or

31:13 yeah we can say well yeah dwarfism like yeah yeah yeah yeah well that's the name of it like that's just

31:19 the little people the CGI like it was sort of just terrible cursed from the start

31:25 war of the world mark platt you know I do think Snow White might sweep the Razzies this year. Um, Mark Platt, stop justice for Mark Platt. He tried.

31:35 You just know. And you know it's not his fault. He's a hit maker. You know, Mark Platt like has a lot on his plate. I feel like he goes to bed at night. Yeah. I feel like he goes

31:44 Victoria. Yeah. With like a lot of Cirus. Yeah. From Ben Platt. Yeah. His ungrateful son.

31:51 Wench. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. You're going to give me opportunity to talk [ __ ] about Ben Platt? I'm not going to miss it.

31:58 No. I I didn't think you would. Worst actor, Ben Platt. No, I'm kidding. Dave Batista in the Lost Lands. Ice Cube: War of the Worlds. Scott Eastwood. Alarm. I just feel like that's not fair.

32:12 Just leave Ice Cube and Scott Eastwood out of this. Honestly, you could leave Ice Cube in it. Leave Scott Eastwood out of this.

32:18 Oh my god. Thank you for reminding me about random people. So, I'm scrolling Netflix last night before we watched Tell Me Lies and I ended up it says like Star Search, which I guess is like this old show that's coming back and I'm looking they have this huge banner of the four guests and I swear to God it was like looking at a Monae. I'm like, who are these people? And I very quickly realized it is the most random group of people. Okay. And they all look so different. I didn't recognize them. Jelly Roll didn't recognize. Chrissy Tegan did not recognize.

32:47 What are they? The judges. Sure. Sarah Michelle Geller with bangs didn't recognize Anthony Anderson. He was only one I did recognize.

32:56 And what they're on Star Search, Jackie, I was like so confused as to what I was looking at. And I took a picture. I was like, can you look you tell me that you recognize any? It was like the most It looked like AI generated human beings like

33:12 Well, Jelly Roll, you know. No, but he's like new looking, right? But he has the the tattoos. Chrissy Tegan was irrecognizable to me. Same with Sarah Michelle Geller.

33:20 I think Anthony Anderson looks recognizable. He has lost a lot of weight. Yeah. Sarah Michelle Geller could be 40 different people.

33:25 Yeah. Right. Yeah. And they are the judges of Star Search. Anthony Anderson. Sarah Michelle Geller.

33:34 Yeah. Chrissy Tegan. You can come back for anything. Cooji. It's so true. Even though I don't know if I would consider like this like a big huge comeback. And I do think like Chrissy Tegan has successfully been

33:44 rehabilitated. No, not cancelled because she still gets work, but she's been knocked down like

33:51 a few pegs. She's not at the level. She was so everywhere. Every opportunity for a model, a host, a funny person, a talking head. Where's Chrissy Tegan? Yeah,

34:00 she was making more money than her husband. Like, and then of course her business cravings was huge online. Target, pans, cookbooks, like content.

34:08 Safely. Safely. Um, the Razzies, sorry. more works after Jared Leto Tron the weekend for hurry up tomorrow.

34:19 No one is immune. That's what I love about the Razzies. They say that death is a great equalizer. Um I actually believe it to be the Razies.

34:25 Yeah. Worst actress, Ariana Deose, Love Hurts. I don't know um that project, but I feel as though she's capable of delivering a worse acting performance.

34:34 I agree. I've seen that medley. Mila Jookovic in the Lost Lands. Natalie Portman, Fountain of Youth. Oh wow, Natalie Portman. I just want to say I could see Natalie Portman also delivering like one of the worst performances of the year

34:46 and like just taking on the wrong project, getting on the wrong horse cuz she's like so Hollywood like classic actress. I could see her having like this really insane like she went too hard

34:54 sense of like self-importance. Yeah. Rebel Wilson bride hard. Oh, she was robbed. Like seriously, leave Rebel Wilson alone.

35:03 Oh, really? I feel like she's like classic Raz's fodder, but like I feel like she takes pride in the fact that she takes on movies that like sure could be nominated for Reszi. Okay. Right. Hard. She doesn't take it.

35:15 When you heard the title of that movie, Bridehard, I just feel like Rebel Wilson is genuinely like a lost individual in this moment. Like I think that she lost a lot of weight and had like lost her sense of self. Honestly, I think that happens a lot with like actresses. They go I feel like Melissa McCarthy went through like a weird period cuz you're just like cast exclusively as like the funny fat friend and then you become like you don't know and then you want to do serious like and I feel like Rebel Wilson like seriously she never found herself after she lost the weight honestly.

35:42 And Michelle Yo, Star Trek. Wow. Taking big swings. Honorable mention to Michelle Yo and Wicked also definitely ruined the franchise worst performance.

35:51 We weren't talking about it in the first film cuz there was so much hype and like excitement and now that the second film is out done and dusted. But I do think we need to talk about how Michelle Yo like borderline ruined a lot of the music and just like the movie.

36:03 Did you watch the second movie? No. Me neither. Isn't that crazy? Wicked too for money.

36:09 Great jokey loser. Great joke. Um worst remake ripoff or sequel. I know what you did last summer. Five Nights at Freddy's 2, Smurf, Snow White, and War of the World. What's unfun about is

36:20 the rages this year is that like not only have I not seen these pictures, I have not heard of them. Like I it's more fun when like take a swing at something that's nominated for an Oscar.

36:29 Well, yes, but also I think that they exclusively um include like traditional film releases whereas like they should be including like Netflix movies, Hulu shows. Like

36:39 it's still a little old school. The Razies, they got the Razies need to evolve.

36:43 They do need to evolve. And I feel like they feel like they don't need to evolve because they're like, you know what, maybe we'll just like fade into oblivion. Like nobody's waiting. No, no, no. We And we need the Razies to encompass like with the Golden Globes out. It It's a one award show that has to do a lot, you know.

36:56 Yeah. Do they not do TV shows? Worst podcast. Oh my god. I I have a few I need to mention. The Good Guys, of course.

37:05 No, they don't do TV shows. No, they need to evolve. Yeah, we need more from the Razies. Nobody watched these movies. I'm I'm shocked that the Razies did.

37:13 Yeah. Um but don't go anywhere, Azies. We support you and we love you. Just do better.

37:19 Do you know that this stands for the Golden Raspberry Awards? No. Why Raspberry?

37:24 I don't know. The 46th edition. I wonder who's hosting. I think it's um you dream job.

37:33 But is there an actual ceremony? And I know we have this question every year. I think there is cuz I feel like we've reported on who hosts the Razies. Dream job.

37:43 Dream job. Not this year though. I'm busy. You're just a lost boy. Yeah, I know who you are, but you don't know what you lost, boy. Too busy chasing stars. You know

38:01 who sings that? Kelsey Bellerini. Leave it to her. You are such a [ __ ] [ __ ] Oh my god. Listen you

38:09 Do you want to sing something in your register? Would that make you feel more comfortable?

38:12 I just did. Okay, fine. No, you know what? You're so unworthy of my talents. That's not true. I've been your biggest champion. Are you ready?

38:23 Yes. Historically, you've been. Yes. Will you continue to be? Remains to be seen. Are you ready for our third story?

38:32 Yes. Actors are being weird. Red flag. Margot Robbie says she became codependent with Jacob Aorti while making Weathering Heights. and she's like um she should be immune to this sort of like cringe clickbaity type of content.

38:50 So in a new cast interview with Fandango, Margot Robbie reflected on collaborating.

38:54 Okay, throwback Fandango. Fandango uh on collaborating with her fellow Australian star Jacob Lordy.

39:00 Oh, I didn't realize they were both Australian. That's cute. I should She said, "I'm so codependent with people I work with and I love everyone so much and I'm always that person who's so devastated when a job's over and I never want it to end." I think I developed that quite quickly with Jacob, too. She then recalled how Jacob hovered nearby as she worked on set, not unlike lurking Heathcliffe.

39:19 Oh, that Heathcliffe. I don't know if Emerald, the director, told you to do this, or you did this, she said, but I remember the first couple days on set, he would just always be in the vicinity where I was, but like in a corner watching Kathy. I didn't tell him to do that. I actually had to ask him to leave. She said, "By the third day of filming, I found myself starting to look around to see where he was. I was really unnerved and unmed. And I felt quite

39:40 oh like the mor unmed and I felt quite lost like a kid without their blanket or something. We have a mutual obsession. He agreed. If you have the opportunity to share a film set with Margot Robbie, you're going to make sure you're within 5 to 10 meters at all times watching how she drinks tea, how she eats her food. She's just like an elite actor

40:01 and like genuinely like this is where Hollywood really loses. Like you would never suspect that she has a husband and child talking like this about Jacob Lordy and that he has a sometimes girlfriend Olivia Jade who he doesn't want to piss off any further than he already has cuz she's has one foot out the door. Like this is not how people in relationships talk about other people. Like this is inappropriate.

40:20 This is not how co-workers talk about one another. Like this is such an HR violation. Whereas like Lively like this is so weird.

40:26 Let's talk about what happened on set of Withering Heights. And I just feel like celebrities and actors are always trying to normalize like how weird their job is to us. Whether it's, you know, kissing someone and you're married and they're like, "No, it's normal. It's normal." And being like, "Yeah, I mean, we're always codependent with like this is [ __ ] weird." And I just like, where are the actors who treat their jobs like jobs then go home to their loving family and like talk about how weird it was?

40:47 The guy from this house was the only one. Shout out to whatever your name is and like I seriously and your wife. Someone else said, was it George Clooney who just said that he's no longer doing roles where he's kissing?

41:03 Really? I don't know if I'm giving him way too much credit. I don't feel like he said that. And I don't feel like he does a lot of kissing.

41:08 Right. But now he's like not playing the leading man. He's just like some Now you're acting like it's your choice. It's like, well, you're not really eligible to kiss anyone anymore either.

41:16 George Clooney not kissing in movies anymore. Yes. George Clooney has stated he's done with on-screen kissing and romantic leading roles.

41:24 He's been done. Oh, citing his age. now in his 60s and his desire to follow the path of Paul Newman as he embraces older roles inspired by conversations with his wife about aging gracefully and focusing on different types of films.

41:36 These are like two separate things, right? I thought you were saying like as a ode to his wife, he won't be making out anymore. He's not doing what the Desperate Housewives guy did.

41:43 No. And it's like it's easy to say, "I'm not playing the leading man in a romantic movie anymore when you're no longer being cast at the like that in your heyday. Take the stance in your heyday." Like now it's like well of course you have taking on different sorts of roles and

41:56 no but I get what he's saying like if he wanted to be the lead ma man in a romantic movie like he could find that job but it's really not his job anymore. So like let leave it to others and he's trying to age gracefully kind of like Robert Dairo. He hasn't been like a leading romantic man in many years.

42:10 He's like trying to take a moral stance like he's doing it for his wife. He's been married for

42:13 Did he say that? He's like he said I'm not kissing girls anymore. He said girls. Well I hope you're 100. Why would you be kissing girls?

42:20 I'm going to read you his direct quote. George Clooney says he's no longer quote kissing girls in movies.

42:28 When I turned 60, I had a conversation with my wife. He said he said the quote is kissing girls. I'll try and find the larger sentence.

42:37 Women is the word he's looking for. Why would George Clooney the old man ever be kissing a girl? Call the police. Like that's weird.

42:43 Okay, here. This is better. Quote, I've been trying to go the route Paul Newman did. quote, "Okay, well, I'm not kissing a girl anymore."

42:52 Okay, a girl is better. Yeah, I agree. But it's just a weird choice of words, and it makes me give him a little, you know,

42:58 Yeah. When I turned 60, I had a conversation with my wife. I said, "Look, I can still play basketball with the boys. I play with 25year-old guys. I can still hang. I'm in shape, but in 25 years, I'm 85 years old. It doesn't matter how many granola bars you eat. That's a real number. But that's in 25 years." This is once again,

43:17 and I just feel like he's trying to be mature, but he's still being like, I could play. I could do it if I wanted to,

43:22 right? And everybody wants me to do it cuz I'm so hot and sexy, but I'm not going to do it.

43:26 And also like nobody cares. Like, not to be mean, like George Clooney has not really had like an impactful film that he's starred in in many years.

43:35 Yeah. I just feel like it's easy to turn like to say this now when that's not what's coming your way,

43:40 right? You're not really giving up. Yeah. Right. That's what I'm saying. But yes, it was George Clooney who said that.

43:47 The great George Clooney. Like if Jacob Lordy said, "I'm no longer kissing girls because I'm devoted to my Olivia Jade." I would say, "Wow, he's really sacrificing for her."

43:58 Yeah. I just really want Jacob Allerty to say this. I live for you. I live for you. I long for you, Olivia. Don't let me go. You know,

44:18 I think that's how he feels. And sometimes I hate my sister Olivia because there are so many amazing songs with the name Olivia in them. Of course, the one I just sang by One Direction. There's also an amazing John Mayer song. Let me just remind myself of what it is. John Mayor Olivia.

44:36 Yeah. I'm thinking something like Olivia could keep me through the night. Like if my name was Olivia and two of those songs existed, the way they would like be my every Instagram story, if I had a riot profile, it would like be it would be the theme of my like the theme song of my life. And like if I was ever on Dancing with the Stars and they had like the theme song night, I would be dancing to Olivia by One Direction.

44:57 Considering your name is not Olivia, what is the theme song to your life? Jeez, that's such a big question.

45:05 It's such a big question. I don't expect you to have an answer. I feel like the toasters would know better than make life.

45:10 I know. It's really off in the comments. What is the soundtrack of my life? What is the theme song of your life for theme song night?

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49:05 Thank you Claudia. Um I was just checking the stories to see that nothing new happened. But did you see Justin Anderson weighed in on Brooklyn and Nicola?

49:12 I did. I hadn't seen this yet. He's a trusted source. Yes, he is. I feel he's an unbiased tell it to cheat it straight type of guy. So, he commented on something. He's a a celebrity hair stylist.

49:22 He did a Q&A and somebody was like wanting his take. He's like, "Everybody wants my take."

49:25 Oh, he also commented on someone's Instagram post and said, "Brooklyn's wife was one of the worst quote celebs I've ever worked with. It's her 100%. She's a bad apple." Red flag emoji. Everyone knows how close the Beckham family really is. Dot dot dot.

49:38 So, he said that in his story, too, like he got booked to and he said it was the worst experience of his life. And that's kind of the the theme around people who know and work with her. Um, I have heard that for years and yeah, which maybe like when we heard it she was a young girl and like girls are allowed to grow up and grow. Um, but it seems like

49:57 the common denominator. Yeah. And Victoria's probably ice, you know, who she is,

50:03 but she's earned the right to be. And it just seems like Nicola is this like spoiled brat.

50:08 Yeah. Nepo baby. I found that to be interesting. Our next story, rumors are quietly swirling and I just want to make mention of it though. don't think that it's true, but that Taylor and Travis have hit some snags in their wedding planning. And some

50:22 No one's immune. Some people are saying they're on the rocks. And I just want to say I don't believe it to be true.

50:30 I don't believe it to be true either, but like just in case it's true. Let's just talk about how crazy it would be. She like seriously she can't like

50:38 you can't. It's too late to turn back. It is. They might as well be married already.

50:41 Yeah. So, according to page six, Taylor and Travis are reportedly going through their first real test in their relationship as his potential NFL retirement loons amid their wedding planning. You know what? It is a lot of change. Athletes always struggle when they retire. It's like your whole identity, your whole life, like from the time you're six playing pee-wee, whatever. Um, I think it's a challenge for even the strongest of relationships. That combined with clearly a very stressful lawsuit and

51:06 wedding planning wedding planning which is no matter how much money you have is difficult. Um yeah. No, I I don't think it's true, but I could see why people might.

51:17 Yeah. And that there's a lot of dynamics at play. A source said that Taylor has been more focused on lifting Kelsey's quote defeated spirits following the Chief's losing season than on making wedding arrangements.

51:27 I could see him like moping around the house. Yeah. And plus he has to retire and now he's like jobless. However,

51:32 he's not as poised for success post retirement and anyone could possibly be. He's like booked and busy. He has like dreams of Hollywood. He has his podcast. Like he's not jobless just like sitting on the couch. Ever compared to like getting up at 5:00 a.m. like working out three times a day and like being solely like dedicated and focused on one thing. It's a lot less.

51:51 I mean I don't you you can still like keep that if it's important to you that routine of like crazy. There are people who get Mark Wahberg wakes up at 4 in the morning to work out three times a day and he doesn't even have a athletic job. Like you can maintain that level if you want to.

52:06 Yeah. But I think it's definitely tough on the body. No. And and and the mind it's a mind to go from being like a professional athlete top of your game to now Yes. being a podcaster, commentator, actor, whatever. Like but your whole life was one thing and and to go through that transition like while wedding planning like let's give Travis some grace.

52:24 Yes. And also I think sometimes like it makes it easier if like you know your partner's in the same space as you like you're also winding down. Taylor's not like she's probably preparing for because she prepares like years in advance for some major tour and her like athletic schedule was probably on par with his.

52:40 Yeah. Actually I don't feel like she's preparing for a tour right now. I don't know like she's due any minute. I think they're building the crib nursery.

52:47 Well in the documentary she like you know she starts the rehearsals and the training like a year in advance. But didn't she say recently she is not touring again anytime soon?

52:55 I feel like she said that. I hope so. Like I feel like she left it all at the Arrows Tour.

52:59 Good. Good. Like you worked hard. Like you do deserve 5 years off and like I want you to get married and have kids and I'm giving you the space to do that. So keep releasing like your 800 albums. I'll buy all of them to support. Like I need your t-shirt that comes in 6 months. Like if that's what you need to settle down, do it.

53:13 Yeah. Um so source says Taylor's trying to put him in a better mood by spending more time with him and not bombarding him with wedding plans. She would want him to focus on the wedding after he makes his career decision because she knows how important that is to him. I think also being up in the air about what to do it once you make the decision you can go forth

53:28 prosper but being in the purgatory of not sure it's terrible. What do you think he should do?

53:34 It's tough because he's a part of this like dynasty team but everyone's younger than him. Um and so like Patrick's not thinking about retiring. Patrick's career just started and a lot of like the new guys who I do think make Travis like a little redundant in the roster, they're all younger than him. Like the team will go on to win another Super Bowl in the next couple of years. Can Travis's body hold out? Like no. And he's won like he's had an amazing career. Like let it he should have I know could have, would have, should have. He should have retired after last year. He made it to the Super Bowl.

54:04 Losing the Super Bowl is still an amazing way to retire. It's ideal to go out after a Super Bowl win, but not everyone is Tom Brady. And it's

54:11 He didn't even go out after a Super Bowl win. Well, the first time he did, right? He went out perfectly. He should have just [ __ ] let Sleeping Dogs lie,

54:18 right? But so like they can't. They actually can't. No, men are sick. For someone to go out after winning the Super Bowl or getting to the Super Bowl, the argument would be, well, they're at the top of their game to the Super. Why would they quit now? They cannot go out on top. It is impossible for them.

54:32 So could have, would have, should have. He should have retired last year. Um, and now like to go out like this is obviously terrible. So I understand. Not even like

54:40 I understand why cuz now it's like well obviously losing the Super Bowl is a much better way to go out than not even making the playoffs. Like I understand why he's struggling so much. But it's almost like that decision paralysis is the worst part. Just do it. Make a decision. Stay or go.

54:54 Mhm. Now um I feel like this is a perfect segway into talking about the next story that I absolutely have to talk about.

55:00 Tell me lies. Oh no. I thought you were talking about Tom Brady. Oh sh Yeah. So, I would like to thank the person who let me know that on July 23rd, 20, no, excuse me, July 20 July 13th, 2023. You know, when I heard that Alex Earl was spotted with Tom Brady, I was like, I feel like I predicted that, but I think that I predict everything and I think that the world revolves around me. Um, but on July 13th, 2023, we were talking about Alex and I'm cracking up. We spelled her name wrong. um that Alex and Earl,

55:30 Alex and Earl and Braxton and Berios and Hicks were spotted at the SBS like the first red carpet appearance and I remember we had this conversation and I'm going to play it for you guys. Okay.

55:45 Shout out to the toaster who was listening to old episodes and found this. I was just being a hater being like I you know it's so cute but like don't you feel like she could do better? Ready?

55:56 Yep. Turn it up. Let me just find Oh god. Oh god. Please um pertinent here now. They're kind of like both young up live in Miami. Like what more could you want out of a relationship at this age?

56:12 Yeah. But like you know she rose to stardom. She's in a very unique position where like she could be really like she could date Tom Brady if she wanted. Like let's aim higher.

56:21 But what about love? What if she loves him? What about love? Okay. What about you feel like sometimes you don't consider love? Like do you think she would love Tom Brady genuinely?

56:34 Yes. I think really truly anyone could. You think what if he's a torturer? No. What if he's like the worst personality?

56:42 I'm sure he does. You don't get tens across the board in life. Like you don't get to be like the best quarterback of all time and also be like the most interesting dinner party guest that everyone wants to talk to

56:52 and the most handsome. All he cares about is football and his friends and his mom.

56:58 Is that bad? Is that bad? Honestly, I could listen to old episodes like for an eternity.

57:04 I just want to say we are two of the funniest, dazzling, funniest, perceptive, insightful girls I've ever met. Not only did I not predict what I was going to say next, like I feel like I'm listening to a stranger tens across the board. Who talks like that? Dinner party guest. No, like genius.

57:25 The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind. Oh my god, how enjoyable. What a great podcast. I should I just wanted credit for that.

57:32 I should listen to old episodes of the toast so I can have the experience of listening to the show not knowing what we're going to say.

57:37 I can't because I'm always like, "Well, I should have said this. That would have been funnier." Like,

57:40 no, I have no notes on that. No, that was hysterical. Those girls are a sleigh.

57:44 I just feel like we're moving away from the more important point, which is that I accurately like predicted this.

57:48 Yes. Oh, such a jealous [ __ ] You're such a What's to predict that you predicted that she was going to rub a back in

57:57 St. Barts? Yeah. Well, the story was that was going to segue into like talking about Claudia's Great Call,

58:03 Jordan Hudson and Alex Earl hanging out together at college football national championships. We didn't even talk about the national championships. They were such a big deal here in Florida.

58:11 Yes, they were. Everyone's like, "Are you going to the game?" And I'm like, "Which one?" Um Hooers from Indiana played here for the Miami Canes. Um college football. Um Miami lost. And it was crazy cuz the championship was said to be in Miami and then Miami was in the championship.

58:25 It's kind of how like the 49ers should be in the Super Bowl because the Super Bowl is in San Francisco,

58:29 but they're not even in the semi-finals. What did they make it? Are they in the four?

58:35 It's over. They lost. Remember Harry told you? Oh yeah, but I thought we were just like talking about the playoffs started.

58:41 Yeah. Now we're down to four teams and then they're weirdest teams of all time.

58:45 That's why I haven't heard about it. No one's talking like you could have never guessed which teams. Seahawks,

58:51 Russell, Rams, Patriots. What's the fourth team? Broncos. What? No. Celebrities except like the Rams.

59:02 Yeah. What? Everyone's really shocked that the Patriots would be in. And apparently they're playing a team next week whose quarterback has an injury, so they don't have their quarterback. So the Patriots are going to be in the Super Bowl.

59:14 Okay. Everyone's like, "Oh my god, Robert Craft's going back to the Super Bowl." He

59:17 I'm happy for him. He probably didn't think like after well Jordan put on her story a picture of her and Alex all at this game and it led people to believe that perhaps Tom and Alex went to the game together because why were they why would these two be in a suite together? Their connection is the Patriots. She's dating Bill Bichc. Tom Brady's coach. It was a joke that Bill Bich and Tom Brady are on double dates. I don't

59:38 Why was it a joke? Like why would they be in the same Oh, just cuz it's like a VIP suite.

59:44 Yeah, but like this is like Alex's town. Even though Alex made a lot of content. She went to a big pregame like with her college friends it looked like. Then I saw her with like Miami people like Dave Grutman. So I don't know maybe like she was I don't know Stewart on I can't

59:57 I think she got there on their own on her own. I don't think Tom Brady went to the college football championships and like this is her town.

1:00:04 She runs this town. She got I think she had the better ticket. She runs this town for

1:00:08 the Miami She has her own scholarship at school like for the Hurricanes in the championship. She could have had any seat in the stadium and she's just got the one next to Jordan.

1:00:16 I think Jordan just went up to her and took a picture. Alex looks like she's posing with a fan. Oh, sweet smile. Go away.

1:00:23 Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Have a great day. Tom was there. Tom was there.

1:00:26 Tom was there. Wow. Are they the next Travis and Kelsey? No. Like this is And while I predicted it, I don't actually like want them to be a long-term couple. This is just a stepping stone for Alex. Um, so like maybe it was a date. This is a perfect date for them.

1:00:44 I just want to say she looks like she's taking a picture with a fan. I think Jordan just walked up to her from her suite.

1:00:48 Like Jordan would Jordan Don has a balls of [ __ ] steel. Yes, she really does.

1:00:53 So that feels right. So yes, this podcast is going to be turning into a sports podcast soon. We've been laying low very dormant.

1:01:01 I didn't realize the 49ers were out. Like you know what made me sad? The Bills are out

1:01:06 and I am officially ready for a Bills Super Bowl. Of course, I'm biased because of Haley and her blossoming family.

1:01:15 Um, but Josh Allen deserves it. And I saw a headline. I was watching Zack's show with him, unfortunately. And the headline was like,

1:01:21 "Is Josh Allen wasting his prime years on the Bills?" Oh, no. And I think the Bills fired their head coach after losing their game because I don't think he has what it takes.

1:01:31 Then you should just blame someone. No, I think like he's what's holding them back because I think everything else about the Bills is really strong, but they're not making it to the Super Bowl.

1:01:38 They are kind of cursed. I do believe it was like the OJ years that just sort of set them off on the wrong path.

1:01:43 I don't think so, but I think they're like the ultimate underdog. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm like I if the NFL is scripted, they're not doing a good job. Like, no offense, all four of these.

1:01:52 This is a bad script. Yeah. Or like somebody went off script. Yeah. Like someone scored when they weren't supposed to score. They got carried away. They were supposed to throw the game because I don't think anybody was like prepared for this. So, what is it going to be like? Seahawks, Broncos, Super Bowl. What is that?

1:02:08 What is that? I don't know. Let's dive into Deer Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help out our community. This is sort of our philanthropic efforts. We're giving back. If you guys ever want

1:02:17 tast taxdeductible, yes, it is. If you guys ever want to hear from us, you're going through something at work with a friend in a relationship, email us, dear toasters@gmail.com, or simply head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. Scroll down, there's a little submission box. Both methods are totally anonymous. Hey swirlies, I need some advice on how to handle my mother-in-law. Just, you know, kind of giving the toxic mother-in-law theme. I recently just had my first baby and my mother-in-law has been getting on my last nerve. First, she came into the room to meet my baby and went and beelined to my husband.

1:02:43 Told him how proud she was of him right after I just gave birth. My husband told her immediately how proud of me he was, which I thought would shut her up. Last week, we saw her and she mentioned to my husband how she got him a push present because he had done so much. She's getting a round of golf um for him for himself. I feel like this is so backwards because he didn't even push a baby out. What should I do? Should I say something the next time that this comes up?

1:03:01 Oh my god, that's so offensive. And as a future toxic mother-in-law, even I can't defend this behavior. Um,

1:03:08 but I do want to say it is 100% incumbent on your husband to handle this. Not only just had a baby, but also because like it's his crazy mom. He obviously is not going golfing. You just had a [ __ ] baby. Not only did she give him a push present, she gave him like the worst. She gave him to take you a job. Like you are now alone with the baby for 8 hours. I don't think so. He's not allowed to accept the gift.

1:03:26 He needs to return the gift and say, "Please spend this money and thought and time and energy on my wife. She just was pregnant for 10 months and pushed out a baby and is broken and cam walk." So, um, for the wife, please, he needs to put his foot down.

1:03:39 This ain't your problem. Just let I just want to say as a future toxic mother-in-law, I imagine, God willing, like when I have a daughter-in-law who gives me a grandchild, God,

1:03:48 still a woman like I'm going to love this woman. Like, I I I did it. Like, I know what it takes. you give me a grandchild, like move aside boys.

1:03:58 Yes. It's like we are mothers, but we're still women. So, I actually can't cannot relate to not seeing the woman in the room when you've done that yourself. You really forget that much.

1:04:10 Yeah. And it's like while we love our children so much, we're still common sense adults.

1:04:15 Yeah. I can recognize that, you know, up until the point of having the baby, like in pregnancy, a man can support his wife. You know, and you're allowed to be proud of your son. Like, a lot of men step up. A lot of men are amazing partners. You can tell them that in private, not 45 seconds after the woman gave birth,

1:04:31 for sure. But like, compared to what the women, it's not even 1%. No, it's not even. And you know that. So, I really cannot understand being so silly at the moment. I really can't.

1:04:44 I'm sorry that's happened to you. Feel free to just And that's the great thing about having a baby. Babies give you love, of course, but they also give you power because everybody wants to see the babies. everybody. You know who's in charge of who gets to see the baby? You. And I feel it's important that you wield that power like a knife. Um and so if she wants to act that way, that's that's amazing. You'll never see the baby.

1:05:02 Mhm. Like it is you're package deal. 1,000%. Next up. Hi, I have a relationship/money question. Last week I was going to the farmers market and I wanted to have some cash on hand. I was at my boyfriend's house. We've been together for three years. He wasn't home, so I grabbed $100 out of his little drawer and I texted him that I was borrowing some cash. It slipped my mind to Venmo him and a few days later he kind of freaked out on me. He said that when you borrow money from someone, you need to remember to pay them back. I said I was sorry and I sent him the money immediately, but I felt like it was a kind of odd reaction. Like I said, we've been together for 3 years. We basically live together. I buy groceries. I cook most nights of the week. I've never asked him to pay me for his half. Am I overreacting by feeling weird that he was mad I didn't pay him back immediately? Or was I taking

1:05:42 advantage of him? You were not taking advantage of him. You did nothing wrong like in my mind. But people are different about money and people are weird about money. Yes. And I guess the idea of like you know actually taking cash from him is different than if he paid for you for something.

1:05:56 But it's not. But after 3 years like he should be happy that he had the cash to give you to go enjoy your afternoon at the farmers market. It's very ungenerous of spirit. Now if you're together for 3 years I imagine there's a lot of good in your relationship. But you guys clearly have different philosophies when it comes to money and that could be a problem down the line.

1:06:13 Yeah it could be a problem mostly if you just don't address it. So, like you're buying groceries and cooking x nights a week and he's nickel and dimeming you on some borrowed cash. Well, then it's time for an invoice. Here's 3 years worth of groceries, my time, of course, my labor hours. I'm very expensive. Um, it doesn't just go one way. Like, when you're generous,

1:06:32 right? And at the end of the day, you went to the farmers market to get ingredients for his lazy ass. I like your approach. Communication does seem like the solution here.

1:06:40 It's not like, okay, when I borrow cash from you, I have to Vanmo you, but when I, you know, do household things, it goes unnoticed. No, if we're going to be now splitting things, let's split them.

1:06:47 No. And also, like, you want to take me to task for not paying back money that I borrowed? I want to take you to task for having an issue with me not paying back money that I borrowed. Like, he thinks he's on his high horse because you should pay back money. Well, you should be generous.

1:07:01 Well, of course, with your lady love. And so, if this is a three-year relationship, it does sound like maybe you guys like you live together, you're gonna get married. Money is a thing you have to talk about. And clearly um

1:07:11 you need to teach him generosity just the way he's teaching you about you know paying back.

1:07:16 And I just want to say there's nothing worse than having to teach a man generosity. Like

1:07:20 it should be his spirit. Well hopefully he's open. Well maybe you know people have different philosophies around money. So maybe there's a reason why he is the way that he is. But

1:07:30 you just sound lovely. Like you go to the farmers market and you cook for your boyfriend and he's like kind of a keragin and he sounds gay. So, I would break up with him. I would like I know this is a small thing, but it's pissing me off.

1:07:43 I would have a conversation first. I thought that was like a mature uh like you could always break up with him, you know? You could always hit that button first. Like try and get through to him and explain like first of all, you were you could have been buying yourself a Chanel bag with that $100. I don't care what you were doing, but at the end of the day, you were buying groceries for your home. Um and if he wants to itemize everything in your life, yep, let's do it. Let's do it.

1:08:04 Right. Of course. And then you know about the pink tax, right? You know, you have to buy tampons, makeup, and all these things just to survive in the patriarchy. So, and then you also make 70 cents on the dollar. So, it sounds like at this point he owes you money.

1:08:15 Yeah. Get out your checkbook. Fifth and final, whatever it is. Hi guys. I love my fiance a Pom, but every time he eats, he licks his fingers when he's done like a child. It's loud, it's wet, and it instantly sends a shiver down my spine. I can be sitting there minding my business and then comes the sucking noises and suddenly I'm so close to throwing a lot of napkins in his face. I've made jokes to him before like, "How do those fingers taste?" And I even flat out mentioned to it while he does it, but he just laughs it off and keeps on going. Meanwhile, I'm sitting there twitching like I'm in a horror movie every time he takes another bite. Am I being a future naggy [ __ ] wife or is this actually like really gross and annoying?

1:08:52 How is this Are you always eating finger food? Should I bring it up again? If so, how? Thanks. Love you. Bye. Yeah, it does sound like licking your fingers is something only you do when you're eating with your hands, which is

1:09:02 not every 10% of the time. Like ribs, hamburger, chicken fingers. Maybe it's like a toddler because everything we just mentioned.

1:09:09 Okay. Well, you need to start, not to make it about you, but like you need to start promoting utensil usage and making meals that use utensils.

1:09:16 This is where like being a wife um like kind of coincides with being a mother. And it's like really annoying when you have to mother your husband and like teach them basic hygiene or just basic decorum. Even those foods we just mentioned, aside from ribs, hamburger is a clean. You don't need lick off a hamburger.

1:09:32 No, it's just ribs. It's just ribs. Eat chicken fingers. What? What are you eating? Chicken dust. Like yucky. Hot dog bun. Clean.

1:09:39 Yeah. What is he eating? Like unless you're eating cheese doodles though. That's the only time you can lick a finger is when you're eating white cheddar popcorn.

1:09:46 A dusty snack. Even then like fingernails are so disgusting. It's actually really gnarly. Is he washing his hands before the meal?

1:09:56 That's why I love being a mom cuz I always have wipes on me now and I find myself using them for myself more. Like Cheeto dust is really yucky actually to lick off because fingers are just gross.

1:10:06 Yeah. So I just feel like this is a situation where you need to like not be beating. He's going to get sick. Like he's going to get E. coli. He like this is a situation where you need to not like be around the bush.

1:10:15 People who lick their fingers like Oh, the sound all of it. Like I don't know what's grosser like the visual the like the audible sound. It's [ __ ] gross. So tell me you can't dine with him.

1:10:25 Yeah. Tell him that he can have his dinner outside like with the pigs. Like it's just sick. It's really disgusting. Yeah.

1:10:30 I hate that like this is a part of, you know, womanhood. I feel like Scott Galloway, you know, he's all about like how men are are like lost.

1:10:36 And it's true. Like you have to teach them basic human like hygiene. The things that we have to like train our men to do. And I feel like I actually have a pretty good man. Like and I'm still being like we have to go brush our teeth. Like it's just like it is a serious issue. I appreciate Scott Galloway like actually saving I don't he's not like referring to like this specifically but just more so like generally. Um it's a real issue.

1:10:58 I'm sorry. And I'm sorry. And I feel like we need to we could be like well you could get him a pair of gloves.

1:11:04 You couldn't make a salad. You know what? It's time for a start talking to call his mother. Like it's really disgusting the things we like let men get away with cuz you know what? It's hard to get a guy.

1:11:14 Yeah. And the future of civilization depends on us dealing with this. Maybe he could eat with a glove on and then

1:11:20 No, that's what I'm saying. That's how we got here. At the end of the meal, he could take it off and

1:11:24 like a doctor. This is how we got here. Like where the bar is in hell. I'm just looking for solutions. You know,

1:11:32 I'm looking You're looking for short-term solutions because first he's licking his fingers, then he's eating his ear wax. Like we need to nip this issue in the butt.

1:11:38 No, but like once he's using the glove, he will get accustomed to not licking his fingers and then that will become habit. and over

1:11:46 and then hopefully COVID strikes again and we're out of gloves. Anytime we can remove the glove.

1:11:52 I just think like training wheel. I just think you're an enabler. I think I'm a peace protector and I want

1:11:59 also known as an enabler for perhaps and I want you to have your peace and I don't know how to really change a behavior like this. So glove it is. No glove, no love.

1:12:09 Well, that's you tell him when he gets into bed, no glove, no love. Thank you to everybody who wrote in. Thank you all for listening to another amazing episode. I can't wait to listen to it in two into two years and be like, "Wow, they're really good." Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast of Monday morning show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube watching us on YouTube. Please subscribe video thumbs up also podcast we found. So all the places don't beautiful and we are love you. Bye.

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The discussion centers on a chaotic Wednesday morning filled with personal anecdotes and reflections on ongoing news topics, particularly a significant and emotionally charged issue involving a person named Victoria. The hosts navigate their own struggles while engaging in spirited debate about the evolving narrative surrounding current events, highlighting both lighthearted moments and serious…

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