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Weenie of the Roundtable: Friday, February 20th, 2026

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Weenie of the Roundtable: Friday, February 20th, 2026", an episode of The Toast published February 20, 2026 (1 h 12 min, about 16,773 words). It mentions 33 people, works and ideas, including Jackson Claude, Alexander Dane, America's Next Top Model, Jacob Elordi, Euphoria.

What this episode is about

A lively, pop-culture driven riff on weekend vibes and current TV happenings, highlighting reality TV recaps, celebrity gossip, and lighthearted banter about summer-in-Florida moments. It frames Friday as a carefree kickoff with quick takes on Real Housewives, Traitors, and other celeb chatter.

Key takeaways

  • Fridays feel like summer: sun, spoilers, and a surprisingly ripe dose of reality TV VR—very Florida energy.
  • Nine months in, nine months out: life pivots from 'disposable income' to 'universal giggles and responsibility.'
  • Content is endless, but capture? hours-long clips exist; still, we crave the one perfect Taylor Swift edit.
  • Child-free vs. child-full debates persist, yet the real plot twist is choosing joy without shaming either side.
  • Two hosts, infinite care: the show proves generosity outshines drama when you’re building a community, not a clan.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Kevin Federline, Marketing Harry, Jackson Claude, Jack Ruby
  2. – 20:00: Grey's Anatomy, Branch Basics, Croissant, Alexander Dane
  3. – 30:00: Jacob Elordi, The Kissing Booth, To All the Boys I've Loved Before, Alexander Dane
  4. – 40:00: Severance, Sonia Morgan, The Other Two, Mindy Kaling
  5. – 50:00: America's Next Top Model, First Day, Reality Check, Claudia Banks
  6. – 1:00:00: Bruce Colton
  7. – 1:10:00: Bruce Colton

Notable quotes from "Weenie of the Roundtable: Friday, February 20th, 2026"

  • Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
    about Jackson Claude · at
  • Very, very sad news. Eric Dayne, star of Grey's Anatomy and Euphoria, has died at the age of 53, nearly one year after announcing his ALS diagnosis.
    about Alexander Dane · at
  • I guess like it's really Grey's Anatomy.
    about Grey's Anatomy · at
  • That is inappropriate. Well, speaking of Jacob Lordy, our next story is about Jacob Lordi because he's allegedly been offered the role of James Bond. Okay.
    about Jacob Elordi · at
  • Heights cuz there's a lot of Oscar buzz like saying like this is his like Oh, really? I guess I haven't seen him in anything since The Kissing Booth. So maybe that's why I'm worried.
    about The Kissing Booth · at
  • Okay, so let's talk about the documentary that really everyone's talking about. If you were live between 2003 and 2012, the show was unavoidable. And if you were like just…
    about America's Next Top Model · at
  • Alexander, Top Models, and more are all featured in an explosive new documentary about the show. It's called Reality Check and Inside America's Next Top Model. It's now playing on Netflix. When they say explosive, they mean it.
    about Reality Check · at
  • Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by First Day. Most parents are not aware that actually 50% of kids are suffering from hidden hunger. So, hidden hunger can come from picky eating, processed snacks, even a lack of.
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Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Jackson Claude — Person · Host · 1 mention · first at
    Named in the show’s intro as a host; participates throughout in pop culture discussion and recaps.
  • Alexander Dane — Person · Referenced celebrity / news subject · 3 mentions · first at
    The episode’s first major news story is the reported death of Eric Dane and discussion of his career and ALS diagnosis.
  • Jacob Elordi — Person · Referenced celebrity / casting rumor subject · 2 mentions · first at
    Discussed as allegedly being offered the role of James Bond and referenced via his character’s father in Euphoria.
  • Phoebe Dynevor — Person · Referenced actor / casting news subject · 6 mentions
    Discussed as the lead cast for the Beach Read adaptation and in a broader conversation about Bridgerton leads’ careers.
  • Claudia Banks — Person · Referenced reality-TV figure · 2 mentions · first at
    Cited as the iconic host/judge of America’s Next Top Model in the documentary discussion.
    Appointment television, sleepover culture, screaming at your TV while, Tyra was screaming at someone. we learned smising. Not enough people know like the origins of smising.
  • Bruce Colton — Person · Referenced reality-TV participant (single-name reference) · 3 mentions · first at
    Discussed within Traitors recap and reunion rumors, but only referenced by a single name, so not eligible as a Person entity.
    I can share with you, but let's put it on the record because they probably won't air it, right? I said, Colton, I have a question for you. What did you mean when you said, I'm going to take her hostage.
  • Marketing Harry — Person · Referenced family member · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a child turning four; used in discussion about parenting milestones and identity as a mother.
    I think that Harry just turned four and I was it's I'm sorry. Nine months is bigger than four. do you agree? 9 months is like it's basically the same as a year.
  • Kevin Federline — Person · Referenced celebrity (callback) · 2 mentions · first at
    Referenced in a humorous callback to an old episode title and discussion of his relationship to Britney Spears and child support.
    Yeah, he gets a really bad rap. But like at the end of the day, yes, he's a couch potato who just lives off of Britney's child support.
  • Jack Ruby — Person · Referenced family member · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in a personal-life segment about a baby turning nine months, used to frame motherhood reflections.
    So, I wanted to have this, little speech on the 21st, but it's a Saturday. Ruby's turning 9 months.
  • Sonia Morgan — Person · Referenced reality-TV figure (comparison) · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a comparison point for a Hulu comedy premise about a washed-up reality star in a Manhattan townhouse.
    Now, I've got five words for you. Cut Sonia Morgan her check. Clearly inspired by her life story, don't you think? The townhouse. come on.
  • Alex Barker — Person · Referenced reality-TV figure · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a judge featured in the documentary and in an anecdote about seeing him at a restaurant.
    Judges, Tyra, Tyra Banks, JManuel, Nigel Barker, these names. Oh my god. When we were in high school, we saw Nigel Barker at a restaurant, right?
  • Britney Spears — Person · Referenced celebrity · 1 mention · first at
    Appears in the Kevin Federline discussion as the source of child support and as part of the joke about passive income.
    Like at the end of the day, yes, he's a couch potato who just lives off of Britney's child support.
  • Mindy Kaling — Person · Referenced creator/writer · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as attached to Legally Blonde 3, used as an example of announced projects that never materialize.
    I can't wait for half of these things to never air cuz that's like we're still waiting on Legally Blonde 3 written by Mindy Kaling, right? It's supposed to be coming two summers ago.
  • Dai Manuel — Person · Referenced reality-TV figure · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as part of the judges featured in the ANTM documentary discussion.
    Fans or commentators, but from the people who were actually there. The judges, Tyra, Tyra Banks, JManuel, Nigel Barker, these names. Oh my god. When we were in high school, we saw Nigel Barker at a restaurant, right?

Places & events

  • New York City, New York — Place · Referenced location · 3 mentions · first at
    Referenced in discussion of air rights and in the Hulu show logline about a Manhattan townhouse.
    I feel like you can't get air rights in New York City.
  • Florida — Place · Referenced location · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as where the hosts are living, framing the 'summer break' vibe and weekend plans.
    Especially when you're living in Florida. Like cuz we have like little a little summer break this weekend.

Media & podcasts

  • America's Next Top Model — Media · Referenced media / sponsored segment topic · 6 mentions · first at
    Used to introduce and frame discussion of a Netflix documentary revisiting the show’s cultural impact and controversies.
  • Euphoria — Media · Referenced media · 3 mentions · first at
    Discussed in relation to Eric Dane’s role and the status of the upcoming season, plus Jacob Elordi’s character context.
    Very, very sad news. Eric Dayne, star of Grey's Anatomy and Euphoria, has died at the age of 53, nearly one year after announcing his ALS diagnosis.
  • Grey's Anatomy — Media · Referenced media · 4 mentions · first at
    Cited as Eric Dane’s most prominent role and used as a point of comparison for what the hosts have/ haven’t watched.
  • The Kissing Booth — Media · Referenced media · 2 mentions · first at
    Used as a touchstone for Jacob Elordi’s early career and the Netflix YA-romance era the hosts reminisce about.
  • Reality Check — Media · Referenced documentary · 2 mentions · first at
    The Netflix documentary discussed as a behind-the-scenes reckoning for America’s Next Top Model.
  • To All the Boys I've Loved Before — Media · Referenced media · 2 mentions · first at
    Referenced as the other defining Netflix YA-romance franchise alongside The Kissing Booth and its cultural moment.
    Second to All the Boys I Love Before that before To All the Boys and then after To All the Boys, everyone was like kissing booth sunk and it's like why can't they.
  • Burlesque — Media · Referenced film · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned while reviewing Eric Dane’s filmography; used for a tangent about 'air rights'.
    Okay, raise your hand if you only know what air rights are because of the movie burlesque and Eric Dane's body of work.
  • The Other Two — Media · Referenced TV series · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a tonal comparison for the proposed Chelsea Handler Hulu comedy; hosts lament its abrupt ending.
    Let me think. The show that I Oh, with the siblings. The other two.
  • Severance — Media · Referenced TV series · 2 mentions · first at
    Referenced in a confusion anecdote (mixing up Industry vs Severance) and as an example of one-word prestige titles.
    Yes, in the boxes. No, I watched the first episode of Severance. No, no, sorry. I watched the first episode of Industry and then I went on the podcast and told everyone that I watched the.
  • Do Revenge — Media · Referenced film · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced while recalling YA/teen content and a prior discussion about perceived anti-Semitic villain coding.
    With like Maya Hawk. Oh yeah, Maya Hawk.
  • The Perfect Date — Media · Referenced film · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as part of the Netflix YA-romance wave associated with Noah Centineo.
    Yeah, the perfect date. I think I was with Noah Centennio.

Sponsors

  • First Day — Company · Advertiser / recommended product · 4 mentions · first at
    Sponsor segment promoting multivitamins aimed at addressing 'hidden hunger' in kids and families.
  • Croissant — Company · Advertiser / recommended product · 3 mentions · first at
    Sponsor segment promoting an app that provides cash back and built-in resale value for shopping.
    Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Croissant. Croissant helps you shop smarter by putting resale value back into shopping so you can buy better, not more. When you shop with Croissant, you earn 10% back and you can.
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    Sponsor segment promoting non-toxic cleaning products; hosts recommend the starter kit and discount code.
    Tossing the toxins has never been more convenient. And for anyone grabbing the premium starter kit, you can still get 15% off at branchbasics.com with our code toast. Just use…
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    Sponsor segment promoting women’s health testing and action plans with biomarker labs and clinician guidance.
    Today's episode is also brought to you by Branch Basics. Here's the thing about cleaning products. You use them every single day. They affect you, but also everyone in your household. That.
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    Sponsor segment promoting bovine colostrum supplement for immunity, gut health, and performance/recovery.
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Full transcript with timestamps

Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Oh, that's right. Friday. What time is it?

Friday. It's our vacation. What time is it? Time of our lives. Scream chop. They didn't have to go so hard with that song. Welcome back to the tur.

Every Friday feels like the beginning of summer. Especially when beautiful. Especially when you're living in Florida. Like cuz we have like little a little summer break this weekend.

That's unbelievably beautiful. Go to the beach, the pool. Yes. Dip, dock, dodge, do

dive. I meant to like say like dive, but we're also going to dip, duck, dodge, dive, and dive.

Now, usually we sort of like ease into the weekend, but I feel like we have a lot to do today on the episode front. We do

real houses in Beverly Hills. Did you watch? Of course, Traitors. Oh, no. I forgot. Kidding.

You got me. You watched. We got another throwaway vote. Um, oh my god. Last night's episode was actually like an exercise in How to be a loser. Like, it was insane.

It was really We were so close. Oh my god, we were so close. We're so close to like vindication and like everything that you know we are with the worst can like players left and admittedly so they'll all say they're the wor the worst even though they all say Natalie is so smart or whatever.

Um stop Natalie's speech like made me cry. No, they're disgusting. I [ __ ] hate these people. Let's save all the spoilers for the TV recap. Along with Real House of Beverly Hills, we also have Queenie and Weenie and then we also just have like two fabulous gals being fabulous

talking about pop culture. Yes, that is what we do for a living. talking about themselves.

Yeah. Today's kind of a big day. I mean, it is what, the 20th, right? Yes. So, I wanted to have this, you know, little speech on the 21st, but it's a Saturday. Um, Ruby's turning 9 months.

On the 21st. Nine months in, nine months out. Even though it's like 10 months, I will be making a speech regardless. Oh, wow. Where has the time gone?

I think that Harry just turned four and I was like, it's I'm sorry. Nine months is bigger than four. Like, do you agree? 9 months is like it's basically the same as a year.

Yes. And all Yes. I'm not here to continue. So, oh my god, I'm literally going to try not to cry. I was like crying last night. 9 months in, nine months out. I just wanted to use this moment as a marker. You know, the selfless queen that I am for others. If you find yourself pregnant right now and like freaking or wondering like, should I is this life for me? Let me tell you, it's for you. And if you're worried, you should only be worried that your life has sucked so much until this point, okay? Like, oh my god, it's the most amazing thing. Like, yes, life is different. Of course, are we out shaking our titties on yachts? No, it so doesn't matter, you guys. Like, it's the best most amazing thing ever. Your life like begins now. And of course, if this life is not for you, your life is great, too.

You know, I'm not I feel like the childless people and then the child people like are always combating with one another. Like, I don't give a [ __ ] That's not what I'm talking about. This is a statement.

You're not here to knock anyone. They're just there to uplift people who might be on the fence

on TikTok. Like child-free women and child full women are always battling one another. And I'm like, girl, they always think the other's talking about them. I'm not talking about you and you're not talking about me. Like, we're good.

So, sorry. Anyway, I had to like You're talking to people who are on the fence and also people who are nervous who like expect that one day they're going to have kids, but you're always just like, "Am I ready? I don't feel ready."

No, of course. And like I loved my life so much. It was like a very hard decision for me. I always knew I wanted to have kids.

Everyone has been watching you on the show for seven years. cuz you've been married the entire time that you were on the toast and like you just didn't feel ready.

I didn't feel ready and I was like kind of like really going to miss my life. Like I had this amazing life like I got to do whatever I wanted and like you know I had a lot of disposable income that I could just do whatever I wanted with like there was no one to tell me no and while that was amazing of course and can't wait to get back there one day um this 2.0 is it's just the best thing in the whole world. So if and maybe someone out there needed to hear that. So, I just wanted to say

just a little encouragement. 9 months in, 9 months out. Are you going to post like a 9 months in?

No. Cuz like I don't have any pictures, you know, from 9 months in. Yeah. And from 9 months out.

Yeah. Like, no. Well, you could do like something from the toast, like a clip of you on the toast 9 months in. That's the thing. It's like sometimes I feel like I don't like capture.

Should make like an edit for me like a Taylor Swift song or something? Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I feel like I don't capture enough content. I'm like I actually capture content like hours long every single week. Oh, that of course. But I thought you were talking about like the struggle of being people who don't share their kids on Instagram.

Oh, that's a different struggle. But no, I'm like, actually, what do you mean? I just made an hourong video. We have clips.

I know. I know. We are two of the funniest people. And I know us offline. When I tell you there are two more caring, charitable, generous people.

Yeah. Masleto to you. Thank you so much. And mto to you as well. Thank you. Four is a big deal. for and it's also just like four years of me being a mom. Not only having a four-year-old, but I've been like I've been doing

for it to center yourself on your kids milestones because it's also about you. Well, no, but like only just for Harry. Like when Charlie has a birthday, like I was still It's not like I was a mom for four. I guess then I'll have been a mom of two for three years. But I've been doing it for years and shout out to me.

Shout out to us. What's that speech? Shout out to me. I want to thank me. Yeah, do it.

Someone will know the reference. It evades me. Um, what else? I watched so much TV last night.

Yeah, I was doing my homework last night. We played Maj yesterday. We did play Maj yesterday.

I didn't know if you wanted to talk about it cuz I didn't win and Jackie won so many times.

I I just like slayed Maj. Maybe my brain is coming back. Maybe that's what's happening.

Probably not. I think I just had a good day. Listen, some days you have it and some days you don't.

Yeah. I'm like so excited to maj with my wits about me. Like I can't even tell you. I'm not and when I'm not like sweating the whole time. Like

Okay. But just you, you know, I wasn't breastfeeding. I was sweating the whole time yesterday, too.

Maj is sweaty game. It's a lot of brain activity. And I think that burns calories. Yeah.

And stress. And it's a lot. Your body's working overtime. Except like the maj snacking needs to stop. Like it's insane how much we snack.

Yeah. Like I sat down with a bowl of nonparels. Like that's [ __ ] crazy. Yeah. for me like that's my sweet treat and I'm I'm unlimited on what I can take down. But when I am like the good thing about when I maj after I'm done breastfeeding is I'll have my wits but I won't be snacking like I won't have that. I'll be hitting the fruit you know.

Yucky. Maybe a couple celery sticks. You know I hate to be that girl but like we have so much to do today and the stories.

The stories are not groundbreaking but interesting. Not groundbreaking. Okay. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Like they are just interesting little bits and bobs of what the peeps are up to.

Um speaking of a conversation that would be a great title. Do you think people would want to listen to that episode? It's a little

interesting little bits and bobs of what the peeps are up to. How about just bits and bobs?

Is that clickbaity enough? Oh my god. We saw something yesterday. It was like one of our titles from I don't even know when. Someone like wrote it out. Yeah.

Couch potatoes deserve love too. Okay. Title today. Couch potatoes deserve love too. Part two.

Part two. And I think I know what we were referring to. Kevin Federline. I'm sorry. There are not two more funnier charitable individuals. I saw that. I was like, we titled something that that's hysterical stuff.

Our titles are insane. Yeah, we just we get very not to not to zoom out. Yeah, let's zoom. It's a Friday.

It's just like when we do the show, like we just get very in the weeds with it and it's funny to see it at a glance sometimes.

But I'm glad we chose that title cuz like it was clearly such an impactful conversation. I knew what we were talking about even today. It really summed up and I think it was about

his memoir. Yeah, he gets a a really bad rap. But like at the end of the day, yes, he's a couch potato who like, you know, just lives off of Britney's child support. But he did raise those kids.

Yeah. Just as a couch potato. Memoirs of a fedter line. He's kind of an inspiration to me.

That's goals for you to be a like successful parent who's also a full-time couch potato.

And who's getting money? Yeah. Passive income. But like wherever it's coming from.

I love that. Goals. Yeah. For women everywhere. Kevin better inspiration. businessman of the week.

Oh my god. Next week we're gonna have to anoint another businessman. No, what we had said was that let's not like hold ourselves to having to have a businessman every week because then the segment will become like annoying and monotony.

When a businessman impresses us like he will replace his fellow I have a businessman of the week.

I actually do. Who? Okay. Do you not? I forgot his name but I know his name. So he's so he's definitely businessman of the week. I wonder who it is. But Maxwell,

who the hell is that? Okay, you're going to love this. He's the CEO of Maze. Okay.

Which of course, oh yeah, that's a great way to become. But he's like one of the very few people who was named several several times in the Epstein files and is coming out looking like a hero.

Epstein like for like a a couple years long period became obsessed with meeting him. He was at um like a a play or something and he very quickly met him and then he starts emailing everyone he knows. Woody and Sununi Lex of course being like I need to meet with Axel Dumas. So there are a million emails of his him emailing his assistant telling his assistant what to say to Axel's assistant. They get Axel's assistant's information from Woody and Suni. The assistant it's like clearly um like so meticulously written keeps avoiding him like does not want to be seen with him. Does not agree to meet with him like multiple times over years long. Um like literally from like 2010 to 2014.

He recently gave an interview saying he believes that Epstein was targeting him for something. Um, and he just he knew that he was a bad guy and just said no.

Oh wow. Did you see the same is true for Joe Rogan? No. Joe Rogan is in his name came up because Epstein wanted to meet him and one of the guests that Joe had on his show was trying to broker was trying like was going to make the intro and Joe was like I don't want to meet him. He's like I googled him and I was like no. Yeah. It's so crazy how there's like so few people who did it. Axel Dumont, CEO of Hermes. Now I feel good spending all that money.

Oh, let's go get Birkens. If only they would let us, you know, or perhaps the businessman of the week could send us to

I'm looking I think I'm ready for a mini Kelly, you know? I think I'm ready for like a seriously I'm not talking

if No, no, no, but like if you're like, what would these girls like? I don't I've just been introduced to them. I don't know them.

Yeah, I actually um I haven't been a Kelly. I would like a Kelly like 25. Oh, we should do it.

You do? Yeah. Okay. Um, color. I'm open for sure. I'm thinking gold hardware. They're so annoying.

Yeah. Um, let's get a printed picture of Axel Dumas and we'll keep him in the frame until he sends us Perkins.

Okay, you guys, without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.

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Fora adviser today at foratravel.com/toast. That's fo rat.com/toast. Make sure to tell them that we sent you by using that link fortatravel.com a s. Our first story is some sad news. Very, very sad news. Eric Dayne, star of Grey's Anatomy and Euphoria, has died at the age of 53, nearly one year after announcing his ALS diagnosis.

This is so sad. So sad. Eric Day aka Mc Steamy. We I don't know him from that. What do you know him from? I know him from Euphoria.

I But he's like he definitely has other smaller Euphoria was like a much later like thing.

Such a familiar face. Let's do our I feel like he was in like a walk to remember or something. Let's do our favorite activity.

IMDb and honor his body of work, shall we? I love that. Marley and me. Oh, so good.

So, Valentine's Day. Everyone was in that though. Yeah. It's like kind of embarrassing if you weren't.

Yeah. What else? I don't know these movies, but I'm so familiar with him. Yeah.

He's just one of those. I guess like it's really Grey's Anatomy. I'm sorry. We're disgusting. Burlesque.

Oh, of course. Marshall. E. His name is Marshall, right? X P R E S. Love. Such a good movie. Made s left such an indelible mark.

Made better by Eric Dne's performance is like the chilling developer and teaching us about air rights.

Okay, raise your hand if you only know what air rights are because of the movie burlesque and Eric Dane's body of work.

Me. Q- wrecked. I was like literally talking about air rights the other day. They're very important.

No, especially in the city when like you buy apartments or like you rent apartments for views. Well, it's like what are the air rights? Could like a big tower go right in front of my apartment?

I feel like you can't get air rights in New York City. It's like they're pre-established

because everyone's just building everywhere. Yeah. But look out for air rights.

Thank you, Eric Dayne. Also, Euphoria. Grey's Anatomy, I think, is the biggest one. I think at one point in my life I watched Grey's Anatomy because I'm like I know Msteia and McDreamie. I feel like I gave it a shot. You don't ever feel like that?

No, I know for a fact and like it's something I'm kind of proud of is I've never seen one minute of that show. Not even a clip. Like nothing.

Nothing. Oh, I get a lot of clips now. Oh, sorry. I've seen a clip. Do you get those clips? Like I get a lot of like medical show clips where like someone comes in like diagnosis.

It's like a 4minute clip and I have to watch the whole thing. Yeah, of course. It's I didn't realize that trend finally made its way to real.

Oh, no. No. I It's been happening for a while and I was losing a lot of time watching like movies quickly on Instagram.

That's why I started watching YoungSheldon from because I was getting full episodes in like three separate clips and I was like, you know what? This show looks kind of good.

Interesting. Yeah. It like inspires and I'm sorry, I have seen um a clip from Grey's Anatomy. There's like a famous episode um where they like weirdly decide to make it a musical. You know, they've done so many episodes you just like have to keep doing stuff. and um Chay Sarah Ramirez as Chay from and just like that someone's like dying in the hospital and she starts singing to them. All of these lines across my face. Um like don't ask me why I know that. I've never seen the show. I don't know if she's like a regular or she's just made a cameo, but all of those lines across her face.

I love that. And he was married to Rebecca Gayart. Yeah. I don't know who that is.

You don't? Yes, you do. That's so sad. I saw a picture of his family, his two beautiful daughters. Um, but I didn't recognize his wife.

You would know her. She's a famous actress and they are still married. She's in Jawbreaker.

Oh, who does she play? She plays one of them girls. I killed Liz. I killed the teen dream. Deal with it.

She's on the left. Mhm. She was like a sidekick. No, she was like one of the girls. The

three. Yeah. Yeah. I killed Liz. I killed That movie was so [ __ ] crazy. Yeah, it was. And very good.

So good. Yeah. That was like a genre of like film we watched when we were kids that we were like a little too young to be watching. They were like old school. Like why were we watching so many times? Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead. Like that was a movie from like 10 years before we were born. I'm right on top of that. Rose.

So good. So good. I killed Liz. I killed the teen dream. Deal with it. She was so crazy for that. Who played the main girl? The killer.

Rose. Um. Yes. Rose. Rose. Is her name? Me too. Rose B. No. No. Rose Burn. What's her name? I could look it up again. Hold on.

Well, that's so crazy that that's her. She like she shaved her head. Rose McGoen.

Rose McGoen. Yes. I killed Liz. I killed the teen dream. Deal with that. Julie Greer is in it.

Judy Greer. I love Julie, too. That's her sister. What the [ __ ] isn't Judy Greer in? She's a queen. She's Lucy Greer now.

Oh, she's Lucy Wyman now. Like seriously, so sad about Eric. Yes. Very, very sad.

ALS is so sad. It is. And he came out with his diagnosis 10 months ago. So it's been 10 months since I mean we don't know how long he's been.

The upcoming season of Euphoria. So there's they're filming it currently. No, it's I think it's done cuz we saw a trailer.

I have no idea. That's You're the Euphoria spokesperson. You covered the Euphoria beat.

I I literally covered the Euphoria beat. Yeah. Like you're our on the ground Euphoria reporter.

Okay. Is Eric Dana in Euphoria season 3? It's only going to be season three of the show that I

Yes, he filmed a few episodes of the upcoming um season. And whose dad does he play?

Nate. He's like very toxic masculinity. Spoiler alert. He's also gay. Jacob Lordy.

His dad. Oh. Oh. So he's like, "You got to be good at sports and [ __ ] a lot of girls." And he's over here like, you know,

is he in the closet? Yeah, of course. But um like they found out at the end. Oh, okay. But he's not like living his life as a game. Like I haven't watched the show. So you're saying to me like he's gay?

No. No. He has like a wife and a family at home that and he just like, you know, cruises at night.

Got it. Okay. With some of like the local teens. Got it. Very inappropriate. That is inappropriate. Well, speaking of Jacob Lordy, our next story is about Jacob Lordi because he's allegedly been offered the role of James Bond. Okay.

In Dennis Villanu's Bond 26. So, a big question in pop culture, like who's the next Carrie Underwood? Who's the next James Bond? Why are we always talking about who's the next Carrie Underwood? Don't you feel like

like she's not dead? Always talking about who's the next Carrie Underwood. She's not dead.

When we talk about like it's literally like Nashville like rising stars in we don't I guess we sometimes say like who's the next Taylor Swift.

I guess like I feel like as a society we all do that. No, it's just us. Okay. I was just trying to like it's us. We're the

um but everyone else is always asking who's the next James Bond and they like never tell us. But I thought they chose Aaron.

Yeah. Yeah, the guy with the the old 50-year-old wife. Um, well, I think they chose him.

Yeah, I think but maybe there's like a a a rival Bond cuz you said it's like G Bond 26, but yeah, as speculation continues over who will succeed Daniel Craig as 007. What about Aaron? Oh, several actors have been linked to the role, including all Aaron Taylor Johnson, Tom Holland. Oh, but I that wasn't confirmed.

I'm sorry. Not to be mean, but like Tom Holland cannot be James Bond. Like you I'm sorry. You can't be everything. No, but they just like need other names to like fluff up the story. But

they're doing Jeopardy. They're doing Jeopardy. Now, we need to come up with like a verb that mean like what Jeopardy did with their host where like we were so excited to see like after Alex Tbei like who would pass the torch. They waited so long. They tried so many people. It's lowkey what Jenna and Friends did. They did it too long. Now with Bond where we all stopped caring like we would have like there was a time when we cared so much who was hosting Jeopardy, who was replacing Hoda, who was going to be Bond. And now like so many rumors, so many stories, years and years. I actually don't care anymore. And I don't think whoever is going to be Bond next, it's it's like Bond is over.

I'm in shock that Aaron Taylor Johnson didn't come out with the movie, right? And now it's like the Bond after Johnson.

No, it's the Bond after Daniel Craig, which is literally And I'm sorry, so long ago.

It's so long ago. And them making bonds with Daniel Craig while he was like seriously on Life Alert. Like they just they handled the whole thing poorly. So, what do you think about Jacob Aorty as the next James Bond?

Well, yeah. I mean, I actually like an obvious choice. Like, yeah. Is he British?

Yeah. Australian. Okay. So, he has the accent. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Americans can't do it. Even though Miles Teller's grandma said he could. Remember that?

Well, if he said if she said it when people were talking about Miles Teller maybe being This is one of my favorite toast clips. We have to post it. It's like from 5 years ago when Miles Teller was like his name was being thrown around back when like we were talking about Bond again literally 5 years ago. Um people were talking about Miles Teller and like a lot of people were like he can't like he can't do it cuz he's American. And his grandma took to Twitter being like well you know he could talk like British

and it's like well yeah he's an actor like yeah I would support Miles Teller as Bond.

One thing about me I support Miles Teller period. Yeah. So Jacob Allerty. Sure. I mean, it would be good for Olivia. I do feel like even though Jacob,

they're not. No, I like saw him spotted with another girl twice. The same girl twice.

I feel like even though Jacob has like a couple Olivia moved to New York City, big projects under his belt like he's now Withering Heights, Frankenstein.

Yeah. I just feel like his role like he's still up in the air. It's a little stifling. Like you It's a full-time thing. I I'm sure Daniel Craig did other projects between nothing impressive or remarkable. I saw him in a play that was so horrible. He did Knives Out.

That was after Bond. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? In between Bond. Like you are Bond. It's your whole thing. You don't do stuff outside of it.

I think anyone would like jump at the chance to just like be Bond. That's all you're going to be.

You don't like win Oscars or anything. So I feel like Jacob Lord is like on the Oscar track.

Oh fine. It's like very commercial. Terry Tom Cruz. I don't know. I'm like worried about Jacob Lord. I just feel like he doesn't have like staying power. I can't I can't explain.

Oh, you're worried about him? Yeah. Well, maybe you should see Weathering Heights cuz there's a lot of Oscar buzz like saying like this is his like

Oh, really? I guess I haven't seen him in anything since The Kissing Booth. So maybe that's why I'm worried.

I'm like, what is he going to do next? If he didn't get nominated for an Oscar from The Kissing Booth, like he has no hope to ever because that was the greatest acting performance of all time. Especially in the movie 2 where he had to act like he didn't [ __ ] hate Joey King after they broke up.

Yeah. Like the way that The Kissing Booth was the best movie I'd ever seen is crazy. second to to All the Boys I Love Before that

before To All the Boys and then after To All the Boys, everyone was like kissing booth sunk and it's like why can't they just both have been good and

The kissing booth started this like insane genre on Netflix where they had to like beat it dead for two years of like young adult sometimes adapted from books but not always. Um

always starring Jacob Lordi or Noah Noah Centennio. Um and the diff like the paths that they both took are so different. Um remember the one where like he like blind dates the girl

Sierra Burgess. Yeah. Sierra Burgess is a loser. My god. What about Tall Girl? Remember that one?

No. Where Sierra Burgess was tall? It was about a tall girl. I think that was the name of the movie.

Okay. Tall Girl. You saw it? That was such a crazy time. Do you remember like Peter Kaminsky?

Yeah. Look, it's called Sabrina's in it. She was a little friend. Yeah. I miss Sabrina's acting era.

I know. Well, she's going to be Alice in Wonderland. Actually, I Is that confirmed?

Yeah. I thought it was like fan. No, I think it's pretty confirmed. You don't remember Tall Girl? No, I must

She was very tall. Oh, actually, I'm sorry. Of course I remember Tall Girl. It just hit me like a truck.

I just want to say like in hindsight, I'm sure we all were like, I'm going to watch Tall Girl. But in hindsight, that's like an insane name for her movie.

I know. Cuz it's just like her only thing was that she was tall and it's and an insane concept. And it's like, okay, we've made YA movies, now let's make it tall.

No. No. And every like they were really inclusive. Like there was a lot of representation. Like I remember like the Korean community was obsessed with all the boys I love before. Like their cuisine was put on. Like everyone was like talking about like how amazing their snacks were. Remember those yogurts were selling out at like HMarks across the country. And so it's like then they had to do tall. Like it was crazy.

It was a crazy time. I do think it's slow down. Oh yeah. They don't make movies like that anymore. But I just want to say I loved that time. I loved those movies and I was like almost 30 watching them.

Rush to make them. Yes. Yes. It was like an avalanche. They all like are mixed up in my mind except for Kissing Booth and To All the Boys I Love Before

and like Prom, remember? Or F the Prom? No, I feel like I've saw more of them than you did. It was like

It's your bad movies. It's my favorite. Oh, what was the one? Maybe it was Prom. No, there was another one.

No, no, no, no, no. And we found it to be like a little anti-Semitic. Oh, of course. Where the villain was. Of course we did.

Oh, Cammy Menddees. It went to like a private school in Miami. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um Sophie Turner was in it, right?

Wait, hold on. Let me look at Cammy Menddees's body and Sophie Turner. And like the villain was like this like rich kid who was always wearing a Star of David necklace.

It was anti-Semitic for sure. Oh, do revenge. Wow. With like Maya Hawk. Oh yeah, Maya Hawk.

Yeah, Cammy Menddees was in a lot of these too. You know, dream roll. Yeah, the perfect date. I think I was with Noah Centennio.

There were so many Noah Centennio ones. So funny. That was funny. Are you ready for our next story that's actually kind of adjacent to what we're discussing?

Okay, a new book adaptation has been cast. Emily's Henry's Beachread will star.

Enough with Emily [ __ ] Henry. Will star Phoebe Denver. Whatever. You didn't want read beach read. I did.

Which one was that? I read a lot of them. They were on a beach in Michigan and there were neighbors. She went back to her like home and she fixed it up. And

why wouldn't I have read? I met I read Happy People. You Betread was like the first that made Emily Henry really popular. So then you read what came out next. That was really buzzy.

Really? I People We Meet on Vacation is where you started with her. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I could check my good readads. Actually, you know what? I will. What was it called?

Beachread. You didn't read it. I know you didn't. Really? How do you know? Because I'm always like I liked be treating her like I didn't read it.

Really? I feel like I hated it. I actually liked it. I remember chuckling a couple times. It's like totally cute.

No, I didn't read it. romcom. I've just had enough of Emily Henry. Like somebody lied to everyone. I don't know why everyone's been brainwashed into thinking any of these books are good. I actually liked the People We Meet on Vacation movie.

So that bodess well for Beachread movie. Okay. So, Phoebe Diver and then who's the romantic lead?

Uh, we don't know yet. But how do you feel about Phoebe Denver? Why are you saying her name like that?

I'm trying different ways. Okay. She's trying. There's a lot of letters in her last name.

Denver. What? How do you spell Denver? D Y N E V O R. Diver. Denver. Diamond of the season. She kind of fell off. Don't you feel like we always talk about how like Raja Jean Paul fell off because he left that show to like pursue other things. Well, really she stayed and it didn't really do much for her. Maybe there's a Bridgetgerton curse.

Yeah, I kind of feel that. Same with um Game A Game of Thrones. No, the second season, the lead Kate, her name was Kate or is her name Kate in real life? A very beautiful girl. She also went nowhere. Simone

Van Who Love Me. Simone Ashley. Is that the Vican Who Love Me? But Jonathan Bailey, but he was famous before.

Jonathan Bailey. He was famous before. He had a huge like a theater career. Was he?

Yeah, he was. He was. You'll be happy to be there. Dancing through life down at the if only because dust is why we come to nothing matters but knowing nothing matters dancing through life. Literally the best scene in that first movie when he was like

soundtrack again. I always listen to when he was like twinkle toes on that wood plank. I literally like that was the happiest I've ever been since Be Our Guest in Beauty and the Beast.

Also, for this movie, it's the same director, so they're kind of like copy pasting people we meet on vacation.

Okay. You know what? I think it's good. People we meet on vacation was hella cute.

Yeah. I think like just like we were in like we used to be in like the YA romance movie

hole. I think right now we're in like the YA book adaptation hole. That's fine. Can we just choose some other authors? Like there are so many good books out there.

Yeah. Like Megan Quinn. Like somebody adopt a Megan Quinn book if you care. What's Megan Quinn?

She's like smut queen. Like everybody thinks Tessa Bailey. No. And where's it happen one summer? Where's our Where's our movie?

Where are all the books that like got adapted? I don't know. And why do like particular ones make it to the finish line when others don't?

I don't know. I wish I understood like how this worked more. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? It's some more like content news.

Okay. Chelsea Handler is going to develop a Hulu comedy series about a washedup reality star. So, Hulu is developing a comedy series from Zoe Young that has Chelsea Handler attached to executive produce and potentially star. The potential series is called Townhouse. Per the official log line, the show follows a washedup reality star in her live-in entourage of misfits as they scramble to rehab her image and reboot her career. When her aranged daughter unexpectedly moves into their crumbling Manhattan townhouse, the TV husband is confronted with the one role she spent her entire life avoiding.

Motherhood. Now, I've got five words for you. Cut Sonia Morgan her check. Clearly inspired by her life story, don't you think? The townhouse. Like, come on.

I guess just the town reality star washed up band of misfits like all of her interns.

Yeah. Like this is so Sonia Morgan coded. Oh, I guess. You don't think so? No, because like she became a reality star in the townhouse.

Okay. It's not a perfect No, but I don't like No, because I just don't No, it doesn't feel that way to me. But

because you always like don't support my calls. That's But sometimes like when you scratch when your call scratches the itch,

I'll let you know. Sure. Because I support your calls and you don't support mine.

Do you want blind support for your calls? No, I just think you don't see me. I know we're having we had this conversation already. You just don't see me. That's why you don't see my calls. But I see you from the inside out. Everything you say I agree with because I see you.

So why don't you agree that that call is not good? That what? That that call is not good.

Because the call's coming from inside the house, [ __ ] This sounds cute. Yeah. Cute. Like throwback to Chelsea Handler. I like, you know, forgot. Wait, no, she doesn't act, does she? No, she's like a commentator.

So this would be her for acting. This reminds me of Sorry. You know what it reminds me of? That show that you loved with the brothers.

Let me think. The show that I Oh, with the siblings. The other two. Yeah. Five words. Bring back the other two. I can't. Did you ever watch it?

Yeah, I watched some of it. [ __ ] hysterical. Yeah, that was such a weird I know they had like an investigation, Toxic Workplace. Like, seriously, I don't give a [ __ ] Like, I don't give a [ __ ]

Is that what happened? Yeah, there was like it ended so abruptly and it wasn't the biggest show ever on HBO, but it was pretty big and it had a really like insane following and it seemed so random because it was gaining a lot of momentum. That's also why like the first season was good and then the second season was really, you know, and so a show with so much momentum like why you would nip it in the bud. They have so much crap on HBO. Um and then there was like a report that there was an investigation into the showrunner and like the show was a toxic workplace and yada yada harassment one or the other.

But does does it not remind you of this a little bit? the vibe kind of just because it's what like about the industry.

Yeah. And like you know shows that industry podcast downtrodden industry discards.

Yeah. Well the Yeah. Yeah. Industry discards. I love that. Um I love shows about the industry like Entourage obviously. Um

hacks. Hacks. Like that's a little bit more satirical. I love shows about the industry.

You should watch industry. No because that's about a different industry like finance.

What ind? Are you sure? Yeah. Yeah. I watched the first episode of industry. I told you I also got confused because I thought it was the first episode of um

what's the Apple one with Adam that everybody loves? Ser Oh, in the boxes. Yes, in the boxes. No, I watched the first episode of Severance. No, no, sorry. I watched the first episode of Industry and then I went on the podcast and told everyone that I watched the first episode of Severance and they were like, "Are you sure you watched the show?" I'm like, "Yeah, the guy like was doing drugs." Um, it was industry was a show that like made me never like want to watch TV ever again. It was so pit inducing in the worst way.

Yeah. I feel like they love a strong drama with a strong title like succession, you know.

Yeah. Industry. Severance. Yeah. A one word of like a like a word you have to Google.

They're literally making shows on thesaurus.com. They're like coming up with the name and then making a show

around it. I love that. Story. Oh yeah. Townhouse. Some exciting content. So, the very content heavy day, a lot of upcoming excitement.

I can't wait for half of these things to never air cuz that's like we're still waiting on Legally Blonde 3 written by Mindy Kaling,

right? It's supposed to be coming two summers ago. Don't we have a list of like things we're waiting for? We were waiting for Confessions of a Female Founder. It came and went.

Let me search um Lemonada. That's usually how I can find the things I'm waiting for.

We're always waiting for It Happened One Summer book adaptation. Oh, I saw a commercial yesterday for Regretting You Colleen Hoover adaptation. I like how that one's not really being promoted. I guess she's like scarred.

Um, it looked really turned. Like it's giving lifetime smut. She like goes to jail and loses custody of her daughter and then moves back to the town to be near the daughter and her father and of course her and the father ended up you know

I just searched this on my phone like it's such a wormhole. Yeah. I can't I saw like perfect casting one so

wasn't perfect casting. Where does he find her? Oh de sister. No, but it's like it just goes so deep.

And I feel like when we're having the conversation about nepotism, we often do not talk about how important of a thing it is because it gave us one of

when done right. Chef's kiss because you know like not anybody could have played that.

These traits are genetic, right? So when done right, I support it. It's not all bad all the time. Only when it comes to Ben Platt.

Did you see Ben Platt is like jacked? He's been gone for a while and then like his husband posted a picture of him in the gym. like he's enormous.

I have to go look. And actually, actually, Ben Platt isn't all bad all the time because he is talented.

No, that's the unfortunate thing about being Ben Platt's number one [ __ ] hater. You have to acknowledge that not only is he probably one of the most talented vocalists of our time, but his debut album, like, they don't make music like that. In case you don't live forever, let me tell you now. I love you more than you'll ever wrap your head around. In case you don't live forever, let me tell you the truth. I'm everything that I am because of you. You know,

isn't that about his parents? Thank you so much for bringing that up. He's like walks all over. I think they're like like aranged now, right?

Yeah. I'm so curious about the Plat family dynamics because like they're all low-key like famous in their own circles. Like Jona Platt is like probably one of the most We were at like a we were playing M with a bunch of Jewish girls like do you follow Jonah Platt? He's like our hero. He's like a Theodore Herzel of our time. Like we're obsessed with him. Like every Jewish girl is obsessed with Jonah Platt. Mark Platt is like one of the biggest producers. Like if you're in production, you know him. And then there was like the drama with Rachel Zuggler. And then of course Ben Platt. So they all operate in like three different universes, but I just know like they all [ __ ] hate each other.

Yeah. Yeah. But then he writes that song. Like I don't know how Jodaplat might have been before he like was radicalized and he like loved his parents and he loved his heritage and before he lost

it's the same with like um AJ uh A was it Alex Edelman? You know he hates his brother.

Who's his brother? He's an Israeli Olympian. Oh, is not Julian Edman. It's not Julian Edman. No. Um, they're just like kind of like

And he's a comedian. Alex Edman. Yes. Who's dating Anna Kendrick, right? Yeah. It's all coming back to you now. Um, I just know he hates his brother and I know his brother thinks he's a low life. Like a Hollywood. Like I just I have the feeling, you know,

his brother. I wonder if Ben Platt and Alex Edelman get together and talk about like their brothers who they find embarrassing.

They shared interests, their Zionist brothers. Yeah. Right. Our fifth and final story is going to lead into Traers Recap. Oh, okay. So, our Traers recap, our TV recap, and just like all things about good television,

the back half of the show is brought to you by America's Next Top Model. How perfect.

Okay, so let's talk about the documentary that really everyone's talking about. If you were live between 2003 and 2012, um, the show was unavoidable. And if you were like just swirly, if you're listening to the show, like you were definitely raised by America's Next Top Model. Um, it was appointment television, sleepover culture, screaming at your TV while, you know, Tyra was screaming at someone. Um, we learned smising. Not enough people know like the origins of smising.

Can I see yours? Your best one. It's actually very hard. But yeah, but look at me.

I love it. Do I think that was so good? That's so rude. See, you don't support my calls. You don't support my after you attempt at smising.

America's Next Top Model was iconic, chaotic, and honestly kind of unhinged. For better or for worse, it did shape an entire era of pop culture and really raised a generation of women. So truly for better or for worse is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here. This was a show that asked one simple question. How far are you willing to go to be on top? You want to be on top. And sometimes apparently the answer was apparently very far emotionally, physically, spiritually, sometimes even cosmetically. If you remember, this wasn't just about modeling. It was about a full body transformation, mind, body, and spirit. This was about trauma bonding in a house with zero privacy. It was about being told you had dead eyes and then immediately having to walk on a runway in six-inch heels while pretending you weren't internally spiraling. But we all watched religiously. What's wild is that at the time we all just accepted it, right?

Like the judging panels, the eliminations, the insane transformations, the way Tyra would send someone home after delivering a monologue that belonged in a Shakespearean tragedy. It was camp. So true.

It was drama. It was psychological warfare disguised as reality TV. And that's why the new documentary is so fascinating why so many people are talking about it. We're getting a full behind the curtain look at the hit show that shaped a generation, not just from fans or commentators, but from the people who were actually there. The judges, Tyra, Tyra Banks, JManuel, Nigel Barker, these names. Oh my god. When we were in high school, we saw Nigel Barker at a restaurant, right?

Yeah. Um, we got Mr. Chow for like someone's birthday and we have a picture with him.

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armor.com/t. So, what's the story? And then we'll talk about Trader. So, Lisa Reena has been spilling some tea about the reunion. She had said last week, I saw a quote from her that she had said that like it all goes down pretty much like justice is served.

I heard that like Colton walks off and she brings up the stalker. So, she clarified the rumor that Colton stormed out of the reunion. She said, well, this is what she said. That wasn't how she understood it. She said, I didn't see it myself. I saw him leave, but I saw other people leave, too, to go to the bathroom and such, but it took a long time for people to come back. That I can share with you, but let's put it on the record because they probably won't air it, right? I said, Colton, I have a question for you. What did you mean when you said, "I'm going to take her hostage."

Lisa is so funny. She like read tweets and like did research. And you know what? I appreciate that.

That's all I said. And that spun him out that she said, "Okay, obsessed." Um, it's just reminded me of like how many interesting people were on the show,

how good the show used to be. Yeah. Like I was watching so passively even though I had low expectations for the episode just because like quite literally not one person there do I care about. I don't even know who I'm rooting for anymore. I'm kind of rooting for Mark Ballas. Like I don't even know who the [ __ ] I'm rooting for.

No, I think Mark Ballas is actually like Well, he did say Sorry. The worst one. Say it with me. Three.

Wait, hold up. Oh, three. Well, the f the worst faithful or the worst the worst person on the show right now. Three, two, one. Tara,

I'm sorry. What Tara did last night was so awful, but she was so close. I I'm I'm not not rooting for her and

Johnny point. I understand like you don't want to get off the show because like more episodes is good. Um so like you're afraid to say something, but at this point there's one or two more episodes left. Like why is she so afraid to take even the smallest of risks?

I think she was afraid to get it wrong and be the leader of the charge. No one wants the responsibility of making the choices and being the one that got it wrong. And I think last week when she did it to Steven, she did not like how it felt. And so even though like all day she's and I think Tara's like a sweet person so I am giving her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't leave the Natalie out to dry just because but I think all day she's like really playing the game theorizing whatever but when it comes to like actually making accusations and pointing fingers at the table like she doesn't want to be the one to do that again.

She's also not good at it. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. When we talk about like the biggest weenies, it also cannot be understated. Mora. I mean, if Mora isn't like such a stereotype, like how little it takes for you to blindly try. Like she wouldn't even consider the conversation and then ran back and told him. I mean, it's so like it's she's such a loser. Like,

and also at this point, you need to like just look at who's left and who when Natalie keeps saying, "Why am I still here? Who's keeping me around?" It's because you do want voices of people who support you because they'll always vote for you. Like Rob knows he can count on Mora's vote. can count on Mark's vote. He up until this week could count on Natalie's vote. And so when they're accusing Natalie of sending home gamers because that would throw us all off. No, like if she were a traitor, you need those voices of support because the deck is stacked when you have people who believe you and who want to go with you.

Just like if Johnny was a traitor, Tara would always go with him. So like their logic was so off. They don't know which road to walk down and they refuse to like really look into why Candace was throwing out Rob's name. So I was glad to see that Mark was like, "Yeah, that was a red flag for me, too." But Mark is like probably the least intuitive one there because at least Tara threw out like had the thought of Rob and brought Rob to the table. And I think Johnny said at this point I think it's Rob and Eric. I could see it being Rob. Like at least someone's like close.

I know. But they just they guess everyone and now there's so few people left. I'm not even finding it impressive that somebody said Tara. Somebody said Rob. It must be really weird to be in a room where like everyone's trying to figure out who the traitor is and they're you know that one or two are among you and like you actually can't trust anyone that you're talking to. Like I imagine it really is a mind [ __ ] at this point. Plus they're in like you know a bubble close like I think it really gets to be very and you're the goal is to like be paranoid and be suspicious. I think it really starts to like eat at you.

Do they know how many traders are left? No. But they do know that people turn. They do. Yeah. So, they're saying like one or two left.

It's incredibly lame of Rob to be riding so hard for Eric because like the reason he threw Lisa under the bus was because Lisa

she was getting suspicious. She was like a liability. Eric sucks at being a traitor. He's such a liability. The first round table he went to, Kristen was on to him and now Mark was on to him after last night. So, the way he's like so not throwing Eric under the bus is very suspicious.

And I don't understand why they're not sus more suspicious of Eric. Like I can make the case for why no one there is a tra like Johnny and Tara I think are safe. Natalie people really started to believe she's not a traitor. They just voted for her because like

cuz what else? They got confused. No, cuz they're afraid of him. Nobody seems to think Mark is a traitor for whatever reason.

They trust Rob even when confronted with maybe it's Rob. They're like no it's not Rob. Why? Like to me Eric is the most obvious traitor. There's no reason to argue why he's not a traitor. He doesn't throw anyone. He's just like coasting the whole time. Also, Mark, literally Kristen said, "If I get killed tonight, it's Eric."

Okay, so this is where Mark is now. And now Mark is like, "Well, maybe it's, you know, to throw me off to think it was Eric."

Kristen literally told if I go home tonight, and Mark didn't want to tell anybody that. He didn't want to bring it up at the round table.

I don't know. And also, it's like they're they're like, "Why did Candace throw out Rob's name?" And it's like, if they would just go one step further and be like, "Well, when Lisa the first time she threw it out is when Rob went for Lisa and Lisa wound up being a traitor. That must have made C. That's when Rob started turning on his fellow traitors, right? If Rob is the traitor,

then he went for Candace and Candace was leaving crumbs. They just like there's it's right there. No, but they don't really have the courage to go there. Even if they were able to put it all together, they would be able to explain it away. Really, the round table, I say this every week. It's the show is so fascinating because it's seriously a so sociological experiment to see all these people like have actual concerns, legitimate concerns about Rob, not voice them and get so Rob sitting there smiling when the conversation now becomes a fight between Tara and Natalie. Like it's so just silly and funny how humans like are easily manipulated by people.

And I also think it's not good for women. Mora Mora, but also Tara and Natalie like getting distracted. They were aligned on Rob and they had really good reasons for Rob and instead they start like infighting with each other.

Yeah. But I think the Mora thing is more embarrassing. Like Mora couldn't would not even entertain the conversation. Like she's so like sw she's like swooning.

Yeah. But they're not even in love. She [ __ ] finds out. I don't think she's even going to care. I don't think she's taking this very seriously. And that's why it's weird that she's still there. Who do you think

I appreciated her saying that being like I don't know why I'm still here. I'm not good at this game. So, like, why are you crying Tara?

Yeah. Who do you think they'll kill tonight? Is everyone an option except for Yeah, except

except for Eric. Um, I think that they should kill Mark because that's their ally. I know they they then lose a vote, but it really makes them look like very innocent.

I think they look more innocent if they kill Mora because people would think Rob would never kill Mora, right?

Because she But they shouldn't kill Mora because she will always vote with Rob. He needs her vote.

So if you kill Tara or Johnny, then you're kind of like the whole opposition is gone.

No, not only that. If you kill Tara or Johnny, that makes like Johnny's not a faithful. And I think whatever Tara is, Johnny is, and whatever Johnny is, Tara is. So you're then getting rid of two distractions.

No, but there at this point, they don't need distractions anymore. Like if if they get rid of Tara or Johnny, he will still have the vote from Mark and Mora. Eric,

well, sorry. What happens next? There's no more roundts. So, I guess the Faithfuls have one more shot. Well, this is just me guessing. Have one more shot at guessing the traitors. They like put it in and then all will be revealed. Then the game is over. And so if they

next week the finale, I think so. Yeah. Okay, good. It's enough. It is enough. So I think honestly they just have to kill Tara or Johnny because Eric Rob

Mora, Mora, and Mark Mark is like 75% Team Rob. Like he is he might have to be the one to like save everyone, but I I think they'll never get Mora to flip. And so if he goes against the group like I think it's kind of in it's won the game is won already.

Yeah. By Rob. Yeah. Yeah. Um Rob had like a moment of reflection. First of all, Rob like lashing out at the um carnival was weird.

Yeah. Um but then he had like a moment of reflection for the first time. Like you know the sociopath was like, I feel bad for all the people I'm hurting. I actually did not buy it.

I think that Rob will get them all to turn on Eric and they'll banish Eric. They'll have gotten a traitor, but Rob was still in their midst. Well, I think that that would probably be the best thing for Rob because I think people are like, you couldn't go to bat for your tried and trueue traitors. Like the second things got hard. You dumped Lisa. Um but this rando Eric walks in at the 11th hour and you're like fighting for him. It actually makes him look really bad and really misogynistic. Like

Yes. But I think he needs his vote. Yeah. You know, because if if Eric got out, if he worked it so Eric got banished instead of Natalie, Natalie's not a sure vote for team Rob, right?

She already started going for Rob, so she had to go. Her speech made me so upset. Like, first of all, I can't believe she was in that dress all day with the heels. Like, I I know. So, I read about the schedule. Like, you do full glam by yourself in the morning. You go to the castle all day. You change there for the challenge into like running clothes. You get back to the castle, put back on your outfit. like I think you're allowed to touch up your makeup a little bit and then the round table goes into the wee hours of the night. I was so uncomfortable for her in the dress and the shoes. Um and then she gives this speech about how like she's always wanted to be strong and now she feels like it was like her greatest asset and then people here like used it against her and she's a faithful.

No. And when they're like I think you're a traitor, you're very smart. You're very strong. You're good at the game. It's like just cuz I'm smart doesn't mean I'm a traitor. Like so all faithfuls are dumb. Not only that, like you don't achieve traitor status. It's just given to random people. So being smart, it's not like you earned it,

right? So like, okay, because I'm smart and and because I'm smart, you guys want to get rid of me when I could maybe help you.

It's very hard to judge everyone because I just know if my ass was in this house, like I'd be dumber than all these people.

I have no idea what I don't think I would be good at it. I think you're right that like only a true sociopath as a faithful or a traitor can be successful. Like it's so like I'm being very judgmental of everyone like you're dumb, you're stupid, you're fat, you're ugly. I would be worse.

No, I think that it's hard to be a really good trader. I don't I I will respect Rob's gameplay. But I think for the Faithfuls, it's a bit of luck and like going unnoticed and just being like unremarkable

until a certain point cuz then you've been like so quiet the whole time that was like Lisa.

Yeah. No, but you can't do that as Lisa. Yeah. Right. Right. Mark Ballas is like a perfect example. But even like Donna Kelsey, like she engaged with no one cuz she was like afraid and they got her in like week two.

Yeah. No, so it's really kind of like luck like who they're going to try and focus on.

Um except Rob is a skillful player and it's like Colton got banished or like you know halfway through the game or whatever. Would we say he was a good player even though he left early? So it's like weird. The best players aren't there.

You know it's like you you aren't rewarded like the people who make it far aren't the best players. They're lucky or unremarkable. Mhm.

And that's boring. That's the fatal flaw of the show. Like the people that we're left with. Now, imagine if like the remaining six was like Rena, Candace, Michael Rapaort, like I forget called Donna Kelsey. Like everyone, it was a good cast.

Yeah. Who we were left with? Like that's just the fatal flaw of the game. Yeah, it is.

But like why were the first three episodes like the best TV I've ever seen in my life?

Because it was a lot of different people, a lot of characters, a lot of personalities. And I know the secret traitor thing was like kind of dumb, but I did really like when people would get on the fa the circle that I didn't know what they were going to say. Like now I know what everyone's going to say and I'm like yeah stick it to them Natalie. But it was a little thrilling to be like is Donna the secret traitor? Like not knowing who

for the audience. I always wonder what the show would be like and how how I would be as an audience member if I didn't know who the traitors were. Would I be able to guess?

So that was fun. Try it one season. I didn't think it was Donna. I didn't think it was Donna. I thought it was disgusting like elder abusers and this poor old lady.

Yeah, I thought it was for sure Colton. Yeah. And The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which was really like I was like not like loving the episode. I thought it was kind of boring until Denise showed up. I thought that was like the most fascinating conversation in reality TV history. One because like Denise's time on the show I believe was cut short. I think the women really did her dirty and it was very interesting how she remained friends with like a couple like Garcel um and I guess she kept in contact with Erica and like now we know why Erica was like so moved by Denise's story. I was so shocked like when Erica spoke up like

I was shocked. Yeah. I wasn't sure if it was the boy the man sorry boy. One of my three the man that she's dating. Is that what she was referring to? Cuz I like how much time has passed. But then she said no now she's dating someone else. So it was the relationship before that.

Yeah. um who we don't know who she's been dating in the years since. Tom, it was so crazy. First of all, Denise's stories about being abused

after her face. Oh my god. On the toilet. Like [ __ ] crazy. I [ __ ] hate her.

You need you can't walk. Like you can't go to the bathroom. You can't wipe. Be more vulnerable.

No. And that's how she knew like that for before the next surgery she wanted like insane. She looked amazing. I love the transparency about

facelifts. No, that was frightening. And then out of left field, Erica says, "It happened to me."

Yeah. Well, Erica was being so supportive and like she knew what just what to say and like she couldn't have been a better friend in that moment. And then Yeah. Then she shared like that she knows how you she feels cuz it's happened to her and that was just so sad. Sutton was also just like so there and like

and I want to say I thought it was very appropriate that Sutton got choked up in her confessionals. like when someone shares that with you like you crying stop like that's inappropriate but it's such a heavy thing and I thought it was like a real um just like a very graceful response from like to be there and supportive and ask questions but not be like overly emotional but then clearly like it's a shocking thing to hear in her confessionals like getting choked up about it.

Yeah. I feel like all the women at least this season are really good at being there for each other. Like even Erica has more like legal drama and like they've all reached out.

Yeah. That sucks. It sucks because she's just like digging herself out of the hole that Tom left her in and she's working so hard and it's like almost all for nothing because all of it has to go to her legal bills.

That's terrible. Um, so I I would love to have Denise back on the show. I loved her when she was on. I thought the women mistreated her so poorly. Kyle Kyle doesn't get enough hate for that. Like she was so awful leaving the charge against Denise. Yeah, of course.

But Erica was Erica is still best friends with Rena. Yeah, they were best friends on the show after the show.

It was a real friendship. Yeah. So I think but I think like Denise hates Rena. Of course.

Yeah. So Erica's like in the middle. Now watching those old clips of Aaron like I know

is the hand crushing thing. I hadn't seen that before. I I I remember seeing it and then it was just like explain like it was just like oh yeah it was a bad moment.

Yeah. And like men who get really involved it's always nefarious. Like it's [ __ ] weird.

Yeah. Especially season one. The other husband. Honestly, I never said I just remember I don't remember exactly everything they did, but I just remember thinking like Denise and Aaron were such a great couple

and so supportive of one another like Yeah. Yeah. It's you Charlie and then when Denise said he makes Charlie look like an angel.

It's true. Mhm. Because when I watched Charlie's documentary and like his greatest crime was that he was self-destructive. Like he never really heard Denise was in the documentary. I think like she he was a terrible husband but I think she loves him and like they still try to actively co-parent and they have a good relationship. Like he was worse than Charlie.

Yeah, for sure. Shocking. Um the episode was like kind of boring otherwise. Like love to see the ladies at Surf Lives.

Oh, I loved the Hamptons. Watching like Dar get her flirt on was so cute. Was that guy 26 or 40?

I don't know. Xander. Yeah. Like he didn't look 26 and he didn't look 40. He he looked both. He actually looked both 26 and 40.

Um I could have lived without like the whole thing. Why aren't all the girls there?

It's a weird trip. And it really looked like they were having true fun. Yeah, it's like a perfect summer. They do two trips on housewives. Like a small one, like always like a little bit more local. And then they're going to Italy.

They already did. Oh, yeah. Where' they go? Santa Barbara or like San Antonio. Oh, no. Arizona.

Uh, Sedona. Some whatever. Tuscon. They did Tucson. They did a local trip and then they do a big trip. But yeah, they could have done like a mid-size trip where they all went to the Hamptons and we're all at Surf Lodge and we're all going shopping. like

would be amazing. Yeah. And then it looks like next week like Kyle calls Bose being like I'm really concerned

about three cuz she's shopping. She Erica's giving real empath this season. Like even her conversation with Amanda which was the first time I heard Amanda speak and I didn't like hate everything she said and like thought she was the worst. Um she's just coming she's approaching the season with like a lot of you know feelings and like understanding. It's nice. It's so nice.

She's like really like a rock solid friend. Yeah. She I feel like she's just like a rockolid person. Oh, it was chilling when she said, "You don't know what it's like to be the mother of a police officer and have to call 911."

Yeah. Chilling. I always forget that Erica has a son who's a cop. Yeah. I also forget that she like has a son.

Oh, I remember. It's just like I feel like it's a little inongress with like her image, like her Erica Jane image, you know, like Erica Gerardi had a kid.

But she's so 360. You cannot put Erica Jane in a box. No, I forgot about Amanda. She's been coming up on my on my like her content. her content

and it's definitely giving Bose is like on to something because like she's so wealthy from all these courses, right? She makes Instagram res that have like 700 views.

Yeah. So, what do you think that it is? Cuz Bose is saying like she teaches you how to manifest money while also taking your money. So, it's kind of like counterintuitive.

Yeah. No, it's snake oil salesman. Like snake oil salesman live in nice houses because they are good salesmen.

Yeah. But like if you want to spend your money learning how to make money like that's how you like

she's not breaking the law, right? But it sounded like you were about to allude to like some sort of fraudulence because like how can how can you make that much money?

It's not fraudulent per se in a it's a question mark because how can you make that much money doing what she does?

She like lives in a nice house and she shouldn't have said that her husband like brings home no money because we would have just assumed like they're dual income strong. You know what I mean? Like but it definitely like leaves a question mark of how can you make that much money doing what she's doing.

The thing she said about Dar was really mean. um about how like Dar's just jealous of Amanda because Amanda has never financially depended on

Oh my god, it was like I was I was like no one was saying anything. Yeah, but Dar financially depended on Amanda and it's really not working out for her. Like so mean going through like a legal battle with their ex over custody and money. Like it's such a traumatizing thing. Um

so uncalled for. Like their argument, their like petty squables have not reached a level where there where you need to say that about someone. Yeah, that was just like so out of left field.

Yeah. Um, so yeah, it was like kind of a boring episode. I need I kind of need the gals back together. It's now like two and a half episodes where

bifurcated where they're on separate coasts and it's like sorry Erica should be in the Hamptons. Oh, I like that Rachel Zo like hates Kyle. Um because it's like it's true. Kyle is like this OG housewife. Everyone loves her. Everyone loves us. And it's like where's that girl? you know, this is like this new Kyle is like definitely

and I don't think it has anything to do with her being sober. She just like she kind of sucks. And so I hear Rachel being like, "You're like the OG of the BH." And it's like this is it.

No. And it has I I don't even remember that she's sober. I'm not interested in like watching drunk people. That's not like So it has nothing to do with that. I also now notice what you said, which is that Kyle is very nasty in her interviews. nastier than like you know at the table she'll like not say anything and then she'll undercut whatever Dar said in her interview and it's it's going to make for an interesting reunion but if I'm Dar watching that like that's not your friend.

No Rachel really likes to read like but they're I think they are similar personalities. They're very fashiony and then they both have this like you know divorce looming over their head so they relate to one another and I think soon like Rachel's dislike or just like meh on Kyle is going to get even worse because like she's going to start taking up for her friend. I like that Rachel's like not afraid to get a little dirty. I wish she could go a little bit more, you know?

Same. But I also think Kathy stands in her way. Even though like those Kathy wouldn't stand in her way, but like she's not going to. Meanwhile, the Hilton sisters, no one's nastier to them than each other, but like you can be like,

"No." And I think Rachel would respect that. That's Kathy's sister. Yeah. And like not want to put Kathy in an uncomfortable position even though like Kyle chose Renide over Kathy DJ situation,

right? Remember it had her over. Of course. That was awful. Awful. So, no, Rachel like joined this crew like she has to work over the summer, but she's like whatever. I think being a reality star find these women look like they have a lot of fun and like she's wanting to have fun and Kyle's like so not in a fun place and she's like kind of not a fun person right now. Um, so I just feel like it's not a good match them too. I don't know why she brought Kyle and it was all to like help with

it was like single ladies. No, I thought it was like to help her and Dar like see one another. Meanwhile, they haven't had like a meaningful conversation the whole time.

But I guess also if she just brought like Dar and Erica, well, that would have been my dream and

dream team. But she probably brought like Dar and Kyle because like that's content, you know, like them. They need to have conversations and do the the the spiel.

But they're not. But they're not even doing it yet. So why is Erica sitting at home?

Bring Why isn't Erica there? I feel sick. Even Kyle could have been there. It's not one or the other. Like

all of them went Bose and Bose. Where's Bose? Oh, sorry. Wait. But she has a lot going on.

Dream team is Bose, Erica, Rachel, Dar. Even though it looks like Dar and Erica like go at each other this season. I I can't.

It happens. as long as as long as it's nothing we can't come back from. Well, that's your TV recap. That's our show for the Oh, no, sorry. It's Queenie and weenie. Almost forgot. Sorry. Our final segment of the week is something we like to do called Queenie and weieenie of the week. We give out two awards to two different people. It's extremely self-explanatory. Queenie of the week and weenie of the week. It could be anyone from pop culture to world news, global impact, queenie of the week and weenie of the week. So,

Jax, would you like to go first with your queenie? Yes. I think my queenie is pretty obvious. The man, the myth, the legend, Paul Salem.

The joy that this photo, honestly, it's the frame. It's not even the man inside of it. Like, the joy this has brought me. People are laotting it as our best segment ever. Like, I'm obsessed.

And he is not only the first businessman of the week, but he's the first joint businessman of the week and Queenie and unanimous Queenie at that.

Bic. So, Heavy is the head that wears the crown. Paul Salem, you don't [ __ ] it up.

He's the first businessman of the week. And if I have anything to do with it, he'll be the last. Oh wow. That means we don't get Jets and we don't get Birkkins and we didn't get a sponsored segment.

And then Weenie, I actually had so many options this week. I I of course wanted to throw um Masimo

name around because just like imagine fumbling Lorie Lachland, but I I didn't end up going with him. I very I came very close to choosing Tara Leinsky because honestly like her behavior at the round table could only be described in one word behavior. Um, but I decided to go with someone else and that's Lucy from Tell Me Liza getting in the car and and actually I want to also make of the week anybody who thought like she had a plan getting in the car and that like Lucy's in control and she go cuz that's also like behavior. Um, but Lucy like

her getting back in the car like her getting back in the car. Her getting back in the car only to like do it all again at like Bri and Wrigley's wedding.

Correct. My weenie of the week is adjacent to yours. It's from Tell Me Lies and it's Wrigley's wig and the people who put it on his head and thought that that was a good idea. I love that. And in like the what's supposed to be like the penultimate moment of the show of Bri and finally getting together without morning breath and they're like looking their best and it's been years and he's in that wig. Major plot hole.

Agreed. Like show ruining. Do over. Like seriously do it over. Yeah. All right. Well, that's our show you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast Monday morning show. We deliver the fast five stories each and every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. Give us video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast found on Spotify, iTunes, Twitch, public radio, I already cast box, all the places and podcast to be a five star view about beautiful about how stunning and about how wickedly talented we are. Love you.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Weenie of the Roundtable: Friday, February 20th, 2026"?

Jackson Claude (Host), Jax (implied co-host; continues conversation with Jackson) (Host), Queenie (Guest), Weenie (Guest), Eric Dane (Guest).

What is "Weenie of the Roundtable: Friday, February 20th, 2026" about?

A lively, pop-culture driven riff on weekend vibes and current TV happenings, highlighting reality TV recaps, celebrity gossip, and lighthearted banter about summer-in-Florida moments. It frames Friday as a carefree kickoff with quick takes on Real Housewives, Traitors, and other celeb chatter.

What is mentioned in this The Toast episode?

33 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Jackson Claude, Alexander Dane, America's Next Top Model, Jacob Elordi, Euphoria, Grey's Anatomy. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Weenie of the Roundtable: Friday, February 20th, 2026"?

The episode runs 1 h 12 min; the transcript is about 16,773 words in 396 timestamped sections.

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