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Sarah Boone - Dumbest Self Defense Case Ever

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· 24 min · 3,855 words · 22 timestamped sections

This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Sarah Boone - Dumbest Self Defense Case Ever", an episode of TRUE CRIME Loser published October 19, 2024 (24 min, about 3,855 words). It mentions 13 people, works and ideas, including overt act, Self-defense, Harold Boon, Andrés Torres, Trial.

What this episode is about

A brief overview of the ongoing trial of Sarah Boone, highlighting the lengthy legal proceedings, the involvement of multiple lawyers, and the evolving impressions of Boone’s appearance and demeanor throughout pre-trial and opening statements. It also notes the media commentary around her age, behavior, and the defense strategy as the case unfolds.

Key takeaways

  • Five years, nine lawyers, one Dr Pepper—trial theatrics trumped by a battered spouse defense backdrop.
  • Sarah’s aging narrative twists: jail time, sobriety glow-ups, and a principal-villain vibe that’s oddly cinematic.
  • The secret bookshelf moment foreshadows how misdirection often outshines actual evidence in high-stakes trials.
  • Prosecutor’s front-row seat to her new expert’s tale just betrayed how overt act gaps can derail self-defense claims.
  • Between courtroom vibes and strategy pivots, the real lesson is narrative leverage often eclipses facts.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Self-defense, Harold Boon, Trial, battered spouse syndrome
  2. – 10:00: overt act, Andrés Torres, Harold Boon, Self-defense
  3. – 15:00: overt act, Self-defense, baseball bat
  4. – 20:00: overt act, Self-defense, baseball bat, Andrés Torres
  5. – 24:00: overt act, Self-defense, Richardson hearing, Miranda rights

Notable quotes from "Sarah Boone - Dumbest Self Defense Case Ever"

  • Self-defense battered spouse syndrome and so how you use battered spouse syndrome as a defense is you first you hire a battered spouse expert which they did Dr Harper then the next step is the defendant in this case Sarah meets with.
    about Joanna Harper · at
  • New story to Dr Harper the expert we heard the new story in her new story it's lacking an overt act that allows her then to be able to use self-defense and kill him every…
    about overt act · at
  • Zipper and his hand started to come out and to move the zipper and at that point she took the baseball bat and just started hitting the hands that Jesus his hands that were…
    about baseball bat · at
  • Team of lawyers someone at some point is going to look like a dumbass because it's really is the dumbest attempt at self-defense I've ever seen or heard and so I'm thinking…
    about Self-defense · at
  • Of the suitcase this is where it starts to get really dumb it's followed up by physical evidence because there's a picture provided of Mr torres's Hand that shows a mark on the…
    about Andrés Torres · at
  • Statements but now that the opening statements are over until they establish the overed ACT they can't call up the any battered spouse or self-defense Witnesses they can't talk…
    about battered spouse syndrome · at
  • Not much if you followed this whole thing not much that you haven't seen and then it's going to get really interesting when the defense takes over because if they have to…
    about Trial · at
  • For no reason you're not allowed to do that and so there had to be a Richardson hearing and they decided it wasn't quite bad enough to like delay the to delay the trial or…
    about Richardson hearing · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Harold Boon — Person · Central defendant / core subject of episode · 2 mentions · first at
    The episode analyzes Sarah Boon's ongoing trial strategy shift toward self-defense and battered spouse syndrome, and how her evolving story interacts with legal requirements like an overt act.
    They're going with well you know what it was intentional it was self-defense intentional and so Sarah's had five years to sit in her jail cell and think of this new story and…
  • Andrés Torres — Person · Deceased victim referenced in trial narrative · 3 mentions · first at
    George Torres is the person Sarah Boon is accused of killing; discussion centers on whether his actions (e.g., hand exiting suitcase) can qualify as an overt act supporting self-defense.
  • Joanna Harper — Person · Referenced expert witness (defense) · 2 mentions · first at
    Dr Harper is the battered spouse expert hired by the defense; Sarah Boon's meeting with Dr Harper is pivotal because the prosecutor attended and learned the defense's new narrative.
  • neighbor — Person · Prosecution witness (unnamed) · 1 mention · first at
    An unnamed neighbor testified to hearing a loud thud consistent with the suitcase being pushed down stairs, supporting the prosecution's narrative of force used against George Torres.
    Witnesses that did take the stand yesterday from the prosecution was the neighbor and he testified that he was sitting in his room on the Fateful night and he heard a…

Products & tech

  • baseball bat — Product · Key physical object in alleged events · 4 mentions · first at
    The baseball bat is discussed as the instrument Sarah Boon allegedly used to strike the suitcase and George Torres's hand; it is also referenced as supposed physical corroboration of the claimed overt act.
  • Dr. Pepper — Product · Throwaway reference / anecdotal detail · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned humorously as part of the episode's framing of the long pre-trial saga ('one lost Dr Pepper'), not as substantive evidence.
    Hey folks welcome back so today we're going to talk about the trial of Sarah Boon after five years nine lawyers and one lost Dr Pepper the trial is finally underway it kicked…

Concepts & topics

  • overt act — Concept · Key legal threshold / gating requirement · 16 mentions · first at
    The overt act requirement is the central procedural fight: without it, the defense is barred (for now) from introducing battered spouse/self-defense evidence and attacking George Torres's character.
  • Self-defense — Concept · Core legal theory discussed · 15 mentions · first at
    Self-defense is presented as the defense's central theory, but the episode emphasizes that it requires an overt act and critiques the plausibility of the defense's claimed overt act.
  • battered spouse syndrome — Concept · Defense framework / expert-driven concept · 1 mention · first at
    Battered spouse syndrome is described as the defense's planned framework, requiring expert testimony (Dr Harper) and dependent on first establishing an overt act to unlock related evidence.
  • 911 — Concept · Emergency call evidence / timeline element · 1 mention · first at
    The episode references the 911 call and operator audio as part of the state's early case, including testimony that Sarah was told multiple times to call 911 before she did.
    Been Sarah's husband or ex-husband saying he told her to call 911 three times before she did they did the 911 operator and they listened to the 911 call I've talked about that…
  • Miranda rights — Concept · Suppression issue / interrogation legality · 1 mention · first at
    Miranda rights are discussed in the context of a failed defense attempt to suppress Sarah Boon's interrogation, with some interrogator statements being redacted.
    Can't use it as evidence saying she got tricked into giving that interrogation and they didn't read her Miranda writes quite right and everything and that one got thrown out but a few of the statements from the interrogators saying like you.

Places & events

  • Trial — Event · Primary event being covered · 1 mention · first at
    The episode is a running commentary on the start of the trial, including opening statements, early witnesses, evidentiary rulings, and how the defense may sequence witnesses to establish an overt act.
  • Richardson hearing — Event · Procedural hearing referenced · 2 mentions · first at
    The Richardson hearing is described as a judicial review of whether the defense's document production tactics (dumping irrelevant records) unfairly hindered the prosecution.

Full transcript with timestamps

hey folks welcome back so today we're going to talk about the trial of Sarah Boon after five years nine lawyers and one lost Dr Pepper the trial is finally underway it kicked off yesterday on Friday both sides gave their opening statement and the state started calling their first couple Witnesses Sarah ended with a full team of private sector lawyers we'll talk about how that came about but Sarah's feeling good she's got her new team a lawyer she's feeling confident they're snickering about things they're fist bumping at moments they're thinking we're really just going to blow this whole thing up looking at Sarah sitting there at her table I've been thinking this during the whole pre-trial and everything I can't believe how bad she looks and how bad she's aged in these five years she was arrested in her mid 4S and now she looks like a 63-year-old woman that took care of herself like if somebody if I wasn't

paying attention and had no idea who Sarah was and someone walked up and handed me a recent picture of her and said this woman is 63 but she always ate vegetables and got a lot of sleep I would say nice good for her that's awesome I wouldn't say yeah right why are you trying to trick me this is a late This Woman's in her late 40s what are you doing I would say no that's and a lot of the times when someone is living the way Sarah is living and getting blackout drunk every day and chain smoking cigarettes and then they get arrested and they go to jail and they're forced to sober up a lot of the times the next time you see them they look way better and they put a little weight on and their skin is better and her hair is thicker Sarah when she was arrested she looked like a little unhinged torture Goblin from hell so I was thinking all right the next time she we see her she's probably going to look

filled out and look better and then the next time you see her it's like she skipped her 50s looks wise how did that happen and she's wearing a Blazer over a blouse like a pink blouse over with a Blazer over it that's her court and for some reason I'm looking at her with her hair and that Blazer and The Vibes that she gives me her new look The Vibes she gives me is an evil strict Elementary School principal that all the children are terrified of Miss Boon and they tell their parents no she's awful we're terrified of her and the parents say nah you got a respect her she's the principal she's in charge and then one late night the janitor who's all alone in the whole school he's clean in Sarah's office and he's vacuuming and he's listening to music in his headphones and doing the trash and then he notices wait a second the the wall on that side of the bookshelf isn't the same size as the wall on this side of the bookshelf and

then he looks the thick wood wood bookshelf it almost looks like there's a space behind it what the hell and then after a few minutes of tinkering and with the bookshelf he realizes the bookshelf is a secret door and he figures out how to open it and behind it he finds a bunch of child siiz skeletons That's The Vibes I get from looking at Sarah sitting there at the table but anywh who I think the funniest most interesting moment that's happened with this whole thing so far actually happened three days ago two days before the actual trial starts when they were doing pre-trial motions so let me set up this moment so in order to go with sisde has made it very clear they're going with self-defense battered spouse syndrome and so how you use battered spouse syndrome as a defense is you first you hire a battered spouse expert which they did Dr Harper then the next step is the defendant in this case Sarah meets with

the newly hired expert and tells them the story and why that's so interesting is because we because of this get to hear Sarah's new story even before she gets up on the stand you got to think in the next couple weeks and why we get to hear it is because when the defendant meets with the new expert the prosecutor is allowed to be there which he was so the prosecutor got to hear Sarah talk with this new expert about why it's actually is self-defense everybody remembers at the right when it happened she was going with not intentional it was a good day no malicious well now they're going with well you know what it was intentional it was self-defense intentional and so Sarah's had five years to sit in her jail cell and think of this new story and so she meets with the new expert the prosecutor gets to be there and listen in on it and then that happens and then 3 days ago the prosecutor filed a motion basically

saying we were there well she told her new story to Dr Harper the expert we heard the new story in her new story it's lacking an overt act that allows her then to be able to use self-defense and kill him every self-defense case there has to be an overt act by the person that ends up getting killed did they pull out a gun and pointed at you did they come at you with a giant knife were they strangling you did they kick the door in of your house and start hurting your family what was the overt act that makes it acceptable for then for you to defend yourself and kill them well the prosecutor files a motion that says your honor we heard her new story because she told the expert you got to think it's probably going to be the same story that she tell up on the stand because it would be a pretty bad look is if she tells the story right after it happened and then now is saying no actually this is what happened to the expert and then

in theory she could change it one more time up on the stand actually this is what happened but that's a terrible look and why would you lie to your hired expert that story that you tell the expert that's what the expert is going to analyze and filter through their expertise and then get up on the stand and say this is why this actually does meet the criteria for battered spouse but anyway three days ago during this the pre-trial motions the prosecutor said your honor I heard the new story that Sarah's going with and that new story is which I thought this was really interesting that they said they're hanging out they're having a good day and then they said tag you're it this isn't new yet but still said tag you're it Sarah runs up to the bathroom hides in the shower and she says that George gets in the suitcase himself then Sarah says she gets cold standing in the shower which she her story before years

ago was she got bored so she's she had a funny thing where she goes I was in the shower and then I got bored being in the freaking shower but now her new story is she got cold in the shower hiding so just pictures Sarah in the shower according to Sarah George has gotten in the suitcase by himself so George is in the suitcase Sarah is standing in the shower after a Time Sarah gets a little cold standing in the shower so then she says she goes down and George is hiding in the suitcase with it unzipped in a playful funny way Sarah came and zipped up the suitcase just all fun and gamees still and then Sarah said that after a bit of being zipped in the suitcase which I think is understandable George wanted out and the reason he said he wanted out was because he said he couldn't breathe according to Sarah's new story that she's telling the expert that the prosecution is listening in on George saying I cannot breathe

triggered Sarah and enraged her triggered past events nothing that happened that day past events of their relationship and him saying that I can't breathe made her go into a terrible rage at that point she tells the expert the prosecutors listening that she flipped the violently flipped the suitcase over flipped it upside down one of the witnesses that did take the stand yesterday from the prosecution was the neighbor and he testified that he was sitting in his room on the Fateful night and he heard a tremendous thud that sounded like it ca started far away and then ended up right next to him and shook the whole wall so I think it's safe to say that Sarah pushed the suitcase down the stairs then it gets really bad Sarah says she had a baseball bat and was whacking the suit suitcase with the baseball bat this probably all the head injuries that George came back with and everything then this is where it gets

very stupid the self-defense part cuz as of right now there's nothing no part of it that makes it self-defense right and then so they at that moment Sarah said then his hand started like couple fingers made it out of the space in the zipper and his hand started to come out and to move the zipper and at that point she took the baseball bat and just started hitting the hands that ah Jesus his hands that were trying to get out of the zipper because she knew if he got out I guess that he would kill her and that's the story then she was drunk and she felt like she had a captive audience that's what they're going with for the videos is she finally had a captive audience while he was locked in the suitcase and she could say whatever she wanted to say to for everything he's done to me for everything you've done to me okay so anyway Sarah meets with the new expert I don't know if this is a month ago or a

couple weeks ago but she tells the new story and the prosecutor listens to it and then like I said a couple days ago the prosecutor says your honor in Sarah's new story which is what I just told it's lacking the overt act that makes it acceptable for her to defend herself and kill George and so until there is an overt act which that story which I just he actually summarized the story just like I did just went through it so unless he unless I'm missing something and there's more to the story that story is lacking the overt act so I would like to file a motion that Sarah side is not allowed to bring up battered spouse self-defense do any reputation stuff about George saying yeah he's so violent and all of this past stuff you can't bring up anything and assassinate his reputation what was the other ones um basically bring up anything about battered spouse his reputation past acts of violence that happened between him

any of that until you officially establish what is the overt act that made it acceptable for him to defend herself for her I'm sorry to defend himself and kill him and so that was the motion that he put in and then the judge says to her defense attorneys her new team of attorneys okay what's the overt act that's a decent point before you can start assassinating his reputation and his character and talking about how bad of a guy he was and bringing up experts about battered spouse you have to establish the over act and going into this whole trial I was thinking if she goes with self-defense whether it's her or her new team of lawyers someone at some point is going to look like a dumbass because it's really is the dumbest attempt at self-defense I've ever seen or heard and so I'm thinking either it's Sarah trying to claim self-defense or looking like a dumbass or it's going to be her lawyer just because it's a

private sector lawyer doesn't make a bad idea smart just because you're a lawyer oh my God a private sector lawyer what are we going to do and so I was sitting back thinking at some point if they go with self-defense someone is going to look like a dumbass and I was waiting for that moment and this is that moment her lawyer was actually one of her assistant lawyers getting up and arguing against that motion that they shouldn't be allowed to talk about any of that stuff until they establish the overt act and this is what he said so her one of her lawyers gets up and he's not happy because they don't want to give up their strategy of what they think the overt Act is in pre-trial because then the prosecution knows what it is they can focus in on that moment and be prepared for it so her one of her defense lawyers gets up and he's not happy that he is being forced in pre-trial to give up what they think is their official overa

that allows it to be self-defense so he's going see well now we're I'm being forced to give our overt act before the even trial starts basically saying give up our strategy and he's not happy about it and finally he says the overt act I have to tell you his hand coming out of the suitcase that means he's about to get out of the suitcase now based on history and everything else she doesn't have to wait to see what's going to happen when he gets out it's clear what's going to happen when he gets out of the suitcase this is where it starts to get really dumb it's followed up by physical evidence because there's a picture provided of Mr torres's Hand that shows a mark on the hand that matches up with the bat that's the overt act it's like a gun okay you don't have to wait for them to pull the trigger you don't and it's based on all the evidence in the case just not testimony but also physical evidence that might support the

testimony so Z was watching this as of like a month ago saying if you go with self-defense at some point you're just going to look utterly stupid and now here it is him saying the overt Act is his hand coming out of the suitcase so she locks him in the suitcase he begs for minute after minute please help me I can't breathe I need to get out she tells him that's my name don't wear it out that sounds like your problem so she's not when it's clear that she's not going to help him and he's in big trouble and he's upside down he's has positional affixation is setting in he probably already has a concussion and then when he knows all right well she's not going to help me I can't believe it she's not going to help me when he starts to save himself by trying to get his hand out and open the zipper then she hits the hand with the baseball bat and they evidence of this is self-defense because if you look at his hand he has a mark

That's the same as a baseball bat so her hitting him with the baseball bat is what really kicks off the self-defense and then my favorite part is it's like a gun it's like a gun okay you don't have to wait for them to pull the trigger you don't how is not having a gun like having a gun not having a gun is nothing like having a gun if he would have come out with a gun all right well a hand that's not holding a gun is nothing like a hand that's holding a gun and so as you can see the her side really doesn't have much for the overt act if just the hand of a person trying to do everything they can to save themselves is the overt act and it didn't play the judge said all right that's not enough of an overt act so they're still as of right now missing the overt act so the the motion from the prosecution got granted they're not allowed to mention they could in the opening statements but now that the opening

statements are over until they establish the overed ACT they can't call up the any battered spouse or self-defense Witnesses they can't talk about George's reputation and character and his reputation and character are the whole thing right you you just they got to paint him as such an awful person that what he went through was bad enough to be self-defense for Sarah and when in reality if George would have gotten himself out and picked up Sarah and choke slammed on our head right there that would probably be closer to self-defense than what Sarah's team of lawyers is going with and so now we're going through the states case right now pretty much everything other than the neighbors that testified it sounded like she pushed him down the stairs it's just been Sarah's husband or ex-husband saying he told her to call 911 three times before she did they did the 911 operator and they listened to the 911

call I've talked about that on my show and they've done the body camam footage which I'm sure everybody watching this has seen so the state's plugging along not much if you followed this whole thing not much that you haven't seen and then it's going to get really interesting when the defense takes over because if they have to establish that overt act before they can get into anything else that they want to talk about and the only person that can establish the overt Act is Sarah by getting up on the stand and telling the story you got to think Sarah's going to be one of their first Witnesses you're going to bring her up she's going to tell her story try to establish the overt act as hard as she can and then once she's off the stand that's when you call the experts and you start talking about how awful George was and that he deserved it and it's get it's not going to be a great look last thing I want to talk about is

so the prosecutor when he was five ing that motion of they shouldn't be able to talk about self-defense until they established the overt act one of the things that um oh no did I just forget what I was going to say shoot well maybe I'll think of it um couple other things that have happened is they Sarah side has gotten a few of the they wanted the whole interrogation Saras side wanted the whole interrogation to be suppressed can't use it as evidence saying she got tricked into giving that interrogation and they didn't read her Miranda writes quite right and everything and that one got thrown out but a few of the statements from the interrogators saying like you did this you caused this were a little bit too much so those are going to be redacted nothing too crazy about that and then Saras side also got called out during pre-trial because it they were trying to just dump as many irrelevant

records on the prosecution as possible so they'd get 500 pages of irrelevant medical records from Sarah and then just send them over to the prosecution well when you get 500 pages as a prosecution you got to go over the whole thing make sure there's nothing important in there or anything and Saras side got kind of called out on they had sent like a bunch of pages of some records and then later sent what they said was the same but it was a bunch of different so the prosecution is gone listen they sent all of these records saying they're the same as that batch they're not the same it's taken forever to go through them it's you know it's starting to look like a strategy and then they had to have what's called a Richardson hearing which the judge looks at the way and the manner that the that the defense is sending all of the records and papers and everything over to the prosecution and has to decide is are they trying to

play games to the point where it's going to hinder the defense's strategy or I mean sorry going to hinder the prosecution's ability to make a case or you just bogging them down with nonsense for no reason you're not allowed to do that and so there had to be a Richardson hearing and they decided it wasn't quite bad enough to like delay the um to to delay the trial or anything but the last thing I remember what I wanted to say so the prosec the prosecutor when he was putting in that motion like they shouldn't be able to to talk about any of this stuff he said that this is her new story in theory she could change her story up on the stand again it would be a really bad look because how many story changes can you possibly do before No One Believes you ever again but I think she has to and I think she's going to because she probably didn't even understand what an overt act and how important it was to a self-defense until

she sat there three days ago and listened to all the lawyers talk about it and discuss it and here how important it is and so now she's almost forced to because there really isn't an overt act in the story now that she's going with so somehow Boon up on the stand which is going to be first couple Witnesses the defense calls is going to have to stick with the story that she gave the expert but then somehow some way invert or insert I mean a believable overt act that allows her to then use self-defense that's the most interesting thing happening with the whole thing so far I'm going to cut it off there see you next time why Sten why sh

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Sarah Boone - Dumbest Self Defense Case Ever"?

Sarah Boone (Host), Host (unnamed) (Host), Prosecutor (unnamed) (Guest), Defense Attorney (unnamed, private sector colleague mentioned) (Guest), Neighbor (unnamed) (Guest), George Torres (Guest).

What is "Sarah Boone - Dumbest Self Defense Case Ever" about?

A brief overview of the ongoing trial of Sarah Boone, highlighting the lengthy legal proceedings, the involvement of multiple lawyers, and the evolving impressions of Boone’s appearance and demeanor throughout pre-trial and opening statements. It also notes the media commentary around her age, behavior, and the defense strategy as the case unfolds.

What is mentioned in this TRUE CRIME Loser episode?

13 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including overt act, Self-defense, Harold Boon, Andrés Torres, Trial, baseball bat. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Sarah Boone - Dumbest Self Defense Case Ever"?

The episode runs 24 min; the transcript is about 3,855 words in 22 timestamped sections.

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