#3162 RHOSLC S617 Reunion 1: Luxe Tag Teams and Lively Lashings

What this episode is about

The recap discusses a RHOSLC Season 6 Part 1 reunion, highlighting luxe tag-team dynamics, lively feuds, and the spectacle of the reunion ambiance. It also mentions upcoming events, rewards like the Golden Krappies 2026, and new ad-free Patreon content.

Key takeaways

• Ice-breaker energy rules: chaotic hosts leaning into self-deprecating humor can outpace polished formats.
• Nods to SAG-style astrology leverage: minor personal anecdotes can credibly amplify a show’s momentum.
• Cross-media elevator moment: juxtaposing Page Six, Fox, and Spotify party vibes highlights media wormholes.
• Ticketing scarcity works: half-sold Crappies date energizes urgency; exclusivity beats abundance for events.
• Unicorn diplomacy: pop-culture whimsy reveals how entertainment metaphors can disarm geopolitical tension.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Ronnie Karam (Host) · 43 min speaking
• Ben Mandelker (Host) · 43 min speaking
• Andy Cohen (Guest) · 16 min speaking
• Whitney Rose (Guest) · 15 min speaking
• Mary Cosby (Guest) · 5 min speaking
• Meredith Marks (Guest) · 8 min speaking
• Heather Gay (Guest) · 12 min speaking
• Lisa Barlow (Guest) · 16 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, iHeart Podcast Award, Page Six, Lisa Barlow
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Meredith Marks, BravoCon, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City season 6 reunion
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Heather Gay, Meredith Marks, Lisa Barlow, Angie Harrington
4. 1:00:00 – 1:10:00: Heather Gay, BravoCon, John Oliver, Kodigo
5. 1:10:00 – 1:20:00: Heather Gay, Bravo, Mary Cosby
6. 1:20:00 – 1:30:00: Ursula, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City
7. 1:30:00 – 1:40:00: Bella Twins, Hercules, Lux Marketing, Lisa Barlow
8. 1:40:00 – 1:47:59: Angie Harrington

Notable quotes from "#3162 RHOSLC S617 Reunion 1: Luxe Tag Teams and Lively Lashings"

• Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crains, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Yel Bravs. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Benoon.

  about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City · at 0:22

• Better, us or Putin? I think us. I think we win. let's get into it. speaking of international disasters, what is Heather wearing? Why is she dressed like a couch on the…

  about Heather Gay · at 6:14

• Well, well, I'm back. Hey everybody, welcome to The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City season 6 reunion. I'm Andy Cohen, and we've transferred these good time girls back to their Greek life, so to speak. Callisper. Angie.

  about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City season 6 reunion · at 11:01

• So, how we greet each other? so then he turns, he's DJ Meredith Marks, great to see you. How's your tour going?

  about Meredith Marks · at 11:50

• From any 80 year olds today, Mary? She's yeah. I'm just going to be happy cuz I don't know how to do anything else, Andy.

  about Mary Cosby · at 14:08

• Do you want to go? Rabbit hole or no rabbit hole? I would just like to ask Whitney. When we spoke at Bravo Con, you said there was some things that you wanted to clear up. So…

  about BravoCon · at 15:03

• But you took what happened at Bravo and you lied about me. And I stand by everything that I've witnessed on the plane. I stand by my opinions about your life.

  about Whitney Rose · at 19:14

• So, Andy is Heather, do you still consider Lisa to be a risky friend? And she goes, Yes, I do because I think she plays with really high stakes and she's going to fight to.

  about Lisa Barlow · at 22:20

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Heather Gay — Person · Primary subject (cast member discussed) · 6 mentions · first at 24:33
  A major focus of the reunion recap: her reunion look, her 'risky friend' framing of Lisa, and accusations that she produces moments by prompting others (e.g., Angie).
• Lisa Barlow — Person · Primary subject (cast member discussed) · 3 mentions · first at 8:07
  Central to multiple reunion disputes: 'risky friend' label, lawsuits/business allegations, and conflict with Bronwyn involving Todd and 'truce' boundaries.
• Meredith Marks — Person · Primary subject (cast member discussed) · 4 mentions · first at 11:52
  Key in the Whitney conflict (BravoCon conversation, 'lying' accusations) and referenced for her DJ side-career and alliance dynamics with Lisa.
• Whitney Rose — Person · Primary subject (cast member discussed) · 1 mention · first at 15:27
  A main driver of early reunion conflict with Meredith (BravoCon recollection, 'lying' dispute) and part of the show's 'Bad Weather' dynamic referenced by the hosts.
• Mary Cosby — Person · Primary subject (cast member discussed) · 2 mentions · first at 14:13
  Discussed for her reunion look and sharp interjections; used as a comedic foil and as someone who labels Lisa 'delusional/risky.'
• Angie Harrington — Person · Referenced cast member (discussed via incident) · 3 mentions · first at 25:02
  Referenced as the person Heather allegedly encouraged to bring up an embarrassing moment on camera; used in the 'snaky/producing' discussion.
  Told multiple people and now you're confirming. She's But I'm just saying it as a fact. And you left at the airport and you said Heather told me to do it and she said it would be funny.
• John Oliver — Person · Referenced celebrity commentator/fan · 1 mention · first at 1:08:58
  Mentioned as a notable public figure who commented on the show (and allegedly 'crashed and burned' per the hosts' joke).
  We're going to have we've had 100 episodes and a roster of famous fans like Rihanna, Julia Roberts, John Oliver, who crashed and burned when he said Meredith and Marks is wrong…
• Bella Twins — Person · Referenced celebrities (ambiguous label) · 4 mentions · first at 1:34:40
  Entity appears in extraction list but is not clearly present in the provided transcript context; likely a stray/other segment reference. Commonly refers to WWE personalities Nikki & Brie Bella.
  Attack. And you know what? I do big things with big people. That's it. I would even do things with Todd because he's so big. And you know what? Guess what? I'm a big [ __ ]…

Companies & orgs

• Bravo — Company · Network · 1 mention · first at 1:19:46
  The network that airs 'Real Housewives of Salt Lake City', frequently mentioned in the context of the show and its events.
  Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crains, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Yel Bravs. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Benoon.
• Page Six — Company · Referenced media · 3 mentions · first at 3:31
  Mentioned in the context of discussing interactions with media personalities and events.
  Well, you know what? I actually right before this I went and visited our friends Danny and Evan at page six. I did their virtual reality show and which was so fun. Go check that out on page six. And then afterwards Evan was.
• Spotify — Company · Incidental mention · 1 mention · first at 4:42
  Mentioned briefly in the context of a party, without significant relevance to the main discussion.
  Iran? I think we're going to get him into Iran. And I just thought it was so funny that I was just talking about Frantois Arnode at the Spotify party upstairs. I was just like I just love how like just living in such different worlds.
• Lux Marketing — Company · Incidental mention · 3 mentions · first at 1:34:01
  Mentioned in passing without significant context or relevance to the main discussion.
  If you write a lesson on, we incubate brands, okay, until they become fulls size chickens. And I own companies and I incubate the companies and then I create a company with…

Products & tech

• Kodigo — Product · Incidental mention · 1 mention · first at 1:03:56
  Mentioned briefly without significant context or relevance to the main discussion.
  For a look and it didn't land. It just didn't land. Sorry. Okay. Well, Beverly from Hill says, Angie, are you trolling Lisa with your Arby's and Kodigo partnerships? what is Kodigo? Can somebody I don't know what Kadiggo is, but.
• Fresh Wolf — Product · Incidental mention · 1 mention · first at 1:37:56
  Mentioned briefly without significant context or relevance to the main discussion.
  Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, Fresh from Wolf is for sale online says, Veronica, and by that I meant the domain name. says, Broin, why jump on the bandwagon and air out the various legal issues.

Concepts & topics

• Hercules — Concept · Incidental mention · 3 mentions · first at 1:33:01
  Mentioned briefly without significant context or relevance to the main discussion.
  Because I love Hercules. That's why.
• Ursula — Concept · Incidental mention · 2 mentions · first at 1:23:34
  Mentioned briefly without significant context or relevance to the main discussion.
  Even in a theoretical situation where it sounds like I'm saying I didn't have sex. Trust that I had sex with him. You don't think I would yell that out loud?

Places & events

• Real Housewives of Salt Lake City season 6 reunion — Event · Main event · 1 mention · first at 11:04
  The main event discussed in the podcast, focusing on the reunion episode of the show's sixth season.
• BravoCon — Event · Referenced event · 3 mentions · first at 15:30
  Mentioned in the context of discussions about the cast's interactions and events related to the show.
• iHeart Podcast Award — Event · Referenced event · 2 mentions · first at 2:59
  Mentioned as a significant achievement for the podcast, indicating recognition in the industry.
  We just got nominated for an iHeart podcast award party.
• Golden Crappies — Event · Referenced event · 1 mention · first at 1:23
  Mentioned as an upcoming event related to the podcast, described as a significant occasion for the hosts.
  Being here. It's a Salt Lake City reunion festival. but before we get to that, the Crappy Awards, the Golden Krappies 2026, they're coming up. And guess what? It's like year 14, which is incredible.
• South Beach Food Festival — Event · Referenced event · 1 mention · first at 2:30
  Mentioned as an upcoming event the hosts will attend, related to their podcast activities.
  We're going to be doing something called Chew on This, which is a podcast thing over there. And that's going to be also in February, the week before the crappies. So, that's going to be super fun. And what's what are you saying?

Media & podcasts

• Real Housewives of Salt Lake City — Media · Main topic · 6 mentions · first at 0:05
  Primary subject of the podcast episode, discussing the show's season 6 reunion and its cast.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:05 Welcome to Watch What Crains. To get our videos as soon as they're released instead of waiting for a week, head over to our Patreon. That's also where you'll find our bonus episodes and our Discord community. We love you guys.

0:25 Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crains, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Yel Bravs. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Benoon.

0:35 Hi. How are you? How are you? How are you Ronnie? Welcome to the show, Jinx. Ben Manon. Um, Ben Jinx. Ben Manon. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Um, so hi everybody. Welcome to the show.

0:54 Welcome to the show. Today we're in fall colors. I'm in oatmeal. Ben's in oatmeal. Guys,

1:00 we really we do not plan our outfits, but we m This is the third day in a row that we've matched very well.

1:05 I know. Yeah. We're coming on the way. We're coming into work on the same wavelength, people. And we are here. We are here for you and for us. I mean, [ __ ] what else would we be doing with our lives?

1:16 So, um, everybody, thanks so much for being here. It's a Salt Lake City reunion festival. Um, but before we get to that, the Crappy Awards, the Golden Krappies 2026, they're coming up. And guess what? It's like year 14, which is incredible.

1:31 Crazy. Uh, we turned 14 next week. We're very excited. And the crappies are coming up. Very huge for us. They're going to be in Los Angeles on February 27th. So, make a weekend of it. Come with your friends. It's already uh half sold out. So, or half sold, I guess I should say. So, um get your tickets. That's going to be so much fun. Also, go to Patreon for all your bonus episode content and videos, which we do every day. And now, new to Patreon for all levels, ad free ad free episodes are now available on Patreon.

2:06 You can get those episodes once you sign up into whatever episode thing you like to whatever podcast episode thing you like to listen to. It'll transfer in there. So, do that. I cannot speak today. It's going to be a problem the entire day. Okay?

2:21 Whether you have a Zoom or an Apple Newton, you can find our podcast. You'll find it. I believe in you guys. Um, and I think that that's all we have to do. Oh, we're going to the food festival in South Beach. South Beach Food Festival. Food and Wine Festival. Um, we're going to be doing something called Chew on This, which is a podcast thing over there. And that's going to be also in February, the week before the crappies. So, that's going to be super fun. And what's what are you saying? What?

2:49 Well, because we have very exciting news that just broke about 20 minutes ago in the world of Watcher Krappins. Ronnie, will you do the honors of telling everyone what just happened?

2:59 We just got nominated for an iHeart podcast award party. Yes. So, thank you, Iheart. That's so exciting. Give it to me. Give it to me right now. Give me that.

3:14 We got a taste for it. We got a taste for it. We need it more. We need it again. Please

3:17 feed it to me. Feed it to me right now. Thank you. That's so so so exciting and so cool. So, thank you so much to them.

3:27 Yeah. Give it to us or suffer or you will suffer. Well, you know what? I actually right before this I went and visited our friends Danny and Evan at page six. I did their virtual reality show and which was so fun. Go check that out on page six. And then um afterwards Evan was like, "What's your what's your sign?" I was like, "Sagittarius." And they were both like, "Oh yeah, this is a good year for Sagittariuses. It'll be a good 2026." And then literally walked out that door and found out we were nominated for an iHeart. So, at the very least, the the horoscope is working for us so far. Knock on wood.

4:01 I'll take it. Listen, I'll be on the coattails of your Sagittarius ass for as long as I can. I will road I will ride the I will rode the coattails. I will ride the coattails. You guys, I'm not stoned.

4:15 That elevator that elevator going the page six situation is hilarious. First of all, shout out to Miranda at the Wall Street Journal who's a crappens fan who encountered me in the in the elevator. Apparently, they're in the same building, but also page six is New York Post and so it's all in the same building as Fox News and it just was so funny because I got in the elevator and there was some people there from Fox News who were like talking and they're like, "Well, we got to get Peter into Iran. Are we going to get Peter into Iran? I think we're going to get him into Iran." And I just thought it was so funny that I was like, "Um, I was just talking about Frantois Arnode at the Spotify party upstairs." I was just like I just love how like just living in such different worlds

4:50 just position having different spaces in the same elevator. But can we get Scott Hunter into Iran? That's the question. That is the question. Now

5:00 um I'll tell you what would solve anything any geop geopolitical crisis would be getting the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City in there because they could they'll just people they you just get all six or seven of them in there wherever their trouble is. And I think then the leaders of whatever country will say, you know what, I think I think we we can settle down. We can settle down. There's too much happening in this world. It's this is so chaotic. We need to have less chaos in our country right now. I think that maybe it could solve issues a little bit.

5:31 Give them whatever they want that all they're asking for is a unicorn that tells them to go have a good sleep. Tells us that they love them. Give it to them. Give it to them. Well, that's what these that's what the leaders of all these countries need because honestly any leader that's marching their country into war or any leader who is like oppressing their own people. It all comes from just massive insecurity and not being loved as a child and they just need a unicorn that you're press its paw a tough and it'll go you are loved and like maybe that's what some of these leaders need and maybe we could have world peace.

6:04 You are loved baby. Loved. All right. Well, here we are. We're not solving any world issues today. Today we're just talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. But who has it better, us or Putin? I think us. I think we win. Uh let's get into it. Um speaking of international disasters, what is Heather wearing? Why is she dressed like a couch on the Lawrence Welk Show? What is she doing? Why? I wonder is this like a look now? Cuz I'm feel like I'm seeing it around. I mean, I've only watched the first episode of Members Only Palm Beach, but I feel like that woman, Hillary, this was her thing.

6:38 She's like, "Let me put a curtain rod across my shoulders and drape some sheer fabric from it, and I'll walk around my house." And that's she's 80 years old. Heather, you're What are you doing? What are you doing, lady? She looks like a piece of furniture. It's like, we're leaving for the summer, so just make sure the furniture is covered. And someone threw a green blanket over a dresser. Why are you dressed like that? I know it is. I don't know. But, you know, I have to say like you're not wrong when you say it's a Lawrence Welk couch, but at the same time, I kind of like it. I I actually love these like sheer things that are hanging from women's shoulders these days. And by these days, I mean I mean 1962. Like I I really I don't know. I'm like, "Ooh, she's so glamorous." Maybe because it's like reminds me of p like old pictures of like like my grandmother or something and it's like comforting.

7:29 But like are we regressing? so much right now that we're like, you know what? Even cover your elbows. Please, please even cover the your elbow skin. Please don't show up in any I can't see anymore. I do not want to see your wrists. Please cover it. [gasps]

7:45 Oh, you know what? Sometimes we just need an Oranza moment to flow through. Um, I actually, you know what? I thought Meredith looked really good. I liked her outfit quite a bit.

7:54 I think everybody looks kind of crazy. Mary looks crazy as well. She's wearing like really long gloves up past her elbows and like a big frilly shirt. I mean, I don't know. This This show's known for everybody looking kind of crazy. And

8:07 they did it. Lisa is dressed like her spray tan. It's just brown. It's just brown.

8:13 Whitney looks pretty. I mean, yeah. And she's like in a red booby, you know like "Hey boys."

8:21 Brain's in like a yellow Easter like she's going to a yellow Easter ball kind of thing. And she has really long hair. I can't be the only person that just kept seeing Monica every time they cut to Bronwin. Did you at all? I kept seeing Monica.

8:36 I did not see Monica. I did not. Can you elaborate? Just looked like Monica. That's it. It's nothing deep. I just I don't know.

8:46 I just look like Monica metaphorically or No, no, there's no metaphorical Monica there. She's Brunin is definitely her own head bobble, you know, head bobble person. She's a unique character for sure. But um

9:00 no, Monica's going crazy right now all over Instagram with her with her accusations and stuff. And someone was like, "Have you seen Monica's stories? They're like off the charts." I was like, "No, because I'm just out of aspirin, you know? I'm out."

9:17 Well, and wasn't Meredith, didn't she recently go on two teas on a on a pod and wasn't she like, "Well, it's true. Someone was taken from the hospital and had her stomach problems and it wasn't me. And wasn't she implying it was Heather who got really wasted or is that like

9:33 Well, I think the whole world is implying that it's Heather, you know. I think we all think it's Heather, but um I don't know if she implied it, but yeah, she was like, "Well, did they get something, but it's not for me to sing." And did her like shrug thing. Uh so, I don't know. Who knows? Yeah. Well, let's get into it. that the ladies arrive, they all say hi to Andy and then

9:56 but listen, also I just want to say on that front, I'm not jud I'm sorry, but the stomach pump thing. I'm not opposed to people getting their stomach pumped. I mean, you need to do it if you're that drunk. And if you're going to get drunk to the point where you're pooping or peeing yourself and barfing on yourself at the same time, it sounds like a good night to me. I'm not even judging that. It's the hypocrisy. Okay, it's the hypocrisy. I didn't know that like getting so drunk that you had to get your stomach pump was now like a thing that people were hiding. I feel like that's just some I mean it never happened to me but like I feel like it's happened to people in the past and then it's like oh yeah I got so wasted they had to call the paramedics. I had to get my stomach pumped. I feel like people talk about that like oops went too far.

10:38 I don't I never thought it was something that was like [gasps] it's a secret that must be hidden from the public at large. I think it's like oh well they went too far. Whoops.

10:47 If you're gonna come on a reunion and you're gonna hide your elbow skin, then you are gonna hide that you got your stomach pumped because you got too drunk.

10:55 It shows in the dress. It shows in the dress. Uh, so yeah, go ahead. Start the recap. I'll shut up.

11:01 Well, well, I'm back. Hey everybody, welcome to The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City season 6 reunion. I'm Andy Cohen, and we've transferred these good time girls back to their Greek life, so to speak. Callisper. Angie.

11:18 Callisper. Bravo. Andy, you said it. Callisper. Callisper. Actually, that means please leave this restaurant.

11:28 So, I just wanted to We got medics standing backstage in case Angie has any accidents today. That is hilarious. Angie hurt your finger, hurt your face, hurt your lip, anything. How do you say are those new boobs in Greek? She's like, Galisper. Oh, wow. So, how we greet each other? Um, so then he turns, he's like, DJ Meredith Marks, great to see you. How's your tour going? Well, it's going good and I'm good. And I'm on a little pause from Thanksgiving and the reunion, but then we'll amp it back up shortly. Wiggy, wiggy, wiggy.

12:09 Why have we not seen any of Meredith Mark's DJ career on the show? What the hell? Why are we only getting all of this, you know, other crap we're getting? I need some DJ Meredith Marks. Yeah. Um, is uh maybe like DJing. Is it that allowed in Utah to have a DJ to be a DJ? It's like no, the devil spins records. Joseph Smith saw the technology ahead of time. the devil.

12:37 You shall not you shall not spin flat records are of the devil. So um we say hi to Brun one. She's wearing co guys. Okay. Is she going to have a costume change later? She's like no costume changes today Andy. This is it. This just me. This is me. This is me. He's like, "All right. Well, hi Whitney. I'm loving that you're back to your blonde look. God, you really look like such a stupid ugly ginger girl." Yeah. When you were a red, I really wanted to throw a card of milk at your head and take your lunch money away. Well, thank you, Annie. That was that was for an anti-bullying campaign. My bad.

13:19 Hi, Heather. How are you? I love Did your daughter go blonde, too? She'd probably get beaten up a lot less. Am I right?

13:27 Heather, I love surviving Mormonism. It was absolutely incredible is what I was told by someone who watched it. Please, how do you feel about it? She's like, "Thank you. Thank you, Andy. It's been just really wellreceived by by whoever watched it." So, I'm just really happy. Well congratulations. Just like you're doing every day, surviving Mormonism. Glad you could rebel against Mormonism by dressing like a dresser that's been covered for the summer. No skin showing. Good for you. Okay, baby. Gorgeous. Oh, wait. Hi, Mary. Hi, Pastor Mary. We going to drink and be married today? We going to steal from any 80 year olds today, Mary? She's like, uh, yeah. I I'm just going to be happy cuz I don't know how to do anything else, Andy.

14:17 Um, great. So, baby gorgeous. What's going on with you? Still leading a very different life from everybody?

14:27 Always. Always. I'm always leading a different life than everybody and day. Okay. Okay. Now, Meredith, what's your goal coming into tonight's reunion? And please keep in mind, we're going to go around the couch and uh we're all going to set an intention. All right, Meredith. Well, I think before I can even address anything, there's one question I need to ask which will change the trajectory of today for me. So, Whitney, would you like the red pill or the blue pill? My name is Meridorphus and I'm going to take you into the matrix right now. Depending on your answer to this question, which way do you want to go? Rabbit hole or no rabbit hole? I would just like to ask Whitney. When we spoke at Bravo Con, you said there was some things that you wanted to clear up. So, I wanted to go ahead and give you the floor to clear it up. [snorts]

15:21 But the floor belongs to Bravo. You can't give me the floor. That's theirs. You can't do that, Meredith. This is what you always do. So, I drink a lot at BravoCon. And when I drink, I'm very happy. I'm a happy, loving drunk, and I love to love on people. And I tried to talk to Meredith or um um I'm sorry for how things have fallen out with us, and I want to be your friend. And that's what happened. Instead, she went and said that I retracted everything that I've said about her and Britney. No, you asked why we can't just be friends off camera and leave camera on.

15:58 And that's when you started. And I said because they are not the same thing. I Well, no. I'm sorry. I said they are the same thing. Sorry.

16:06 You're twisting words. You're twisting words. Well, I said because they are the same thing and I can't do that. And then you said, well, you were pushing me away. And I said, I don't believe in violence. I don't push people. And then I said, I establish boundaries. And you said, "I don't like that you call me a liar." And I said, "Well, I don't li Well, don't lie about me." And then you said, "You're right. I shouldn't lie about you." And I'll clean it up. And then my family all together we slice a lemon together. Nuh-uh. I didn't retract anything I said. You took me trying to be kind to you, and you went and you lied about me. Wait, let's just parse what she's saying here. So Whitney comes up to Meredith at Bravocon. It's like, "Why can't we be friends?" And Meredith's like, "Because you have trashed me." the entire season and followed me around and told everybody I'm an alcoholic and a pill popper.

16:55 That's why. Well, but you I did that because you were ignoring me. Yeah, I was establishing boundaries because you you were acting like a psycho. So, stop lying. Okay, I'll stop lying. I never said I was lying. I said I would stop lying. Like, oh, okay. Okay. But I honestly, what did Meredith think was going to happen? She was going to take drunk Whitney from Bravo and she really thought Whitney was going to show up and be like, "Oh yes, Andy, I lied the whole season just to piss Meredith off because she's never treated me like a cool girl." So, Meredith, what did you think was going to happen? Come on.

17:32 Well, you were fall down drunk and your husband carried you upstairs the way I have to carry my toddler to put him to bed. Well, at Bravo, in a happy drinking moment, maybe. Trust me, I'm never going to do it again. Like, I will never try to be your friend. Like, well, my intention was, I don't get it. I've always supported you. I've always loved you. I've always had your back. Remember when I said alcoholic pill popper? That was me having your back. And when Lisa said awful, horrible things about you, I was there for you.

18:09 No, you've never been friends with Meredith. I don't know where this rewrite is coming from. You've maybe been friends for like half a season, but come on. I've always been a good friend to you. And she Lisa's like, you know what? You've always said awful, horrible things about her. It's not just me. Like, if you're going to call me out, like, talk about what you've said, then. Talk about what you've said.

18:30 You took advantage of No, because we were all [ __ ] and cheaters. Remember? Remember that one?

18:37 Remember? No, I'm not going to shut that. I'm not going to shut that. I'm going to open my mouth. So big open bag right now. My mouth's so bad. No, I'm not going to shut up. Well, she doesn't need to shut up. So don't tell her what to do because you're not the boss of the world. That's what you're Yeah. Don't bring me into your argument and I won't open your mouth.

19:00 Mary's like, "Just relax. Just say just say what you mean, Whitney. You have the floor." Say, "But she always talks for Meredith. Don't tell her what to do. She can say what she wants to say. She's insignable to have an opinion, too. But you took what happened at Bravo and you lied about me. And I stand by everything that I've witnessed on the plane. I stand by my opinions about your life.

19:24 Okay. So, now that you have the answer to your question, how will the trajectory of the night go? Meredith. Not great. I mean, look, I didn't lie, Whitney. You're the one who lied. And you didn't like that you were called out and I established boundaries.

19:42 Uh-uh. I did not lie. I own that I was drunk and I already apologized to Annie for being so drunk on Watch what happens live because that's on me. And he's like, "Yeah, we were just scared you weren't going to make it across the street. You're not helping Andy. My feet weren't working." Okay. Well, let's just leave it there. You know, she doesn't have working feet. It's a It's a thing. I'd like to point out we're going to believe that this one over here really remembers our conversation when she admitted she was fallout and drawn. Case dismissed.

20:15 I remember our conversation. You lied. Do not call me a liar. She's like, "You black out, Whitney. You need to stop. You're a blackout." I really wish Meredith had just accused Whitney of watching a movie. She's like, "Well, have you recently watched a romcom from the past seven years? Cuz if you don't remember it.

20:34 Oh, really? You didn't lie? Then how did Crazy Rich Asians end? The ultimate litmus test.

20:45 And um she's like, "I own what I do." Merida says, "I own what I do." You know, I'm not going to I don't own things that I don't do that you create for me to say I do. And she's like, "That sounds like a whole bunch of semantics."

21:01 No, that's actually not what moment means Whitney. That's not the Just because she says words doesn't make it semantics. That is actually not the semantics moment. Meredith does semantics all the time, but this is not one of them.

21:13 No, you don't even know what semantics are, you dummy. God, Whitney. Whitney arguing is like pissing into a waterfall. It is so [ __ ] funny to me. So Meredith's like, "Well, I own my truth." And Lisa's like, "You know what? End it there. That sounds like the truth." Yeah, just end it there. Sounds truthful enough, stupid Whitney. Okay, Lisa, I want to talk about you for a little bit. No, we were talking about Meredith being drunk. Let's keep talking about Meredith being drunk. He's like, uh, no, we're going to talk about you. So, Lisa may have skipped Angie's RV trip to hang out with Ben and Blake.

21:48 And when the time came to defend herself against fancul tales and legal drama, she definitely showed up. Does Lisa love her life? Yes. Does her clarity lunch raise more questions than answers? Yes. Are we going to roll a clip? You bet. Take a look. That was a good bit. And it was a clip package of Lisa being like deathmass. Those cases were all smashed. Hi, baby car death time. So, uh, Andy is like, "Heather, do you still consider Lisa to be a risky friend?" And she goes, "Yes, I do because I think she plays with really high stakes and she's going to fight to the death and so like it's her way or the highway and I think that makes her risky friend." What chat GPG response with that? She plays with high stakes.

22:39 What? She's going to fight to the death. Huh? Lisa Barlo or the highway. Lisa Barlo. No one plays with higher stakes than Lisa Barlo.

22:50 Okay. What are Thanks for the preview of like the new James Bond. She's back. She's playing with high stakes and she's taking no prisoners. Risky friend, Lisa Barlo. Just I just don't get it. I think is she is she's saying risky friend cuz she's going to like Well, what does it mean to be a risky friend? Does it mean that you're friends with them, but they're going to like they're going to turn on you and like take you down? I guess that would be a risky friend, but I just don't understand with the way that Heather has responded how that makes her a risky friend. It all sort of like these generic sayings that she's sort of strung together in a way.

23:27 Yeah. I mean, I think what she means is like Lisa's going to be your friend and then the second she's mad at you, she's going to go dig up all this dirt on you and she's going to blah blah, you know, put it out on TV and how can you be friends with somebody you can't trust like that? But I mean, the trajectory of the season was Heather pretending to be Lisa's friend and then being like, "You're a risky friend. I can't be friends with you." And then turning on Lisa and accusing her of doing all this stuff and following her around screaming on a boat about, you know, all these crimes that she supposedly committed and everything else. So, I don't know. It's like she It's a lot of projection from Miss Heather. Miss Heather.

24:01 Yeah, it really is. But, you know, she's dressed like a couch today. And I have to say, Heather did make a very smart move because she's getting on my nerves this season, but I do love a couch. And

24:14 you know what? Heather looks to me like um you know those horror movies where there's like some sort of awful thing that's under some sort of sheer thing and you pull and you pull and you pull and you pull and then like a skeleton pops up. That's what it feels like. I just want to like pull at her dress and see what gets revealed.

24:29 Yeah. Very scary. Um, so Heather is like, so Lisa says, "Well, I think Heather can be snaky." So from me, if you think I'm a risky friend, I think you're snaky in our friendship. She's like, "What? When have I ever been snaky? Tell me one time I've been snaky to you." And so Lisa goes, "Yeah, well farting while making off her camera, that wasn't meant for anything. That was snaky. That was snaky of you." She's like, "Andie brought that up, though." She goes, "No, because you told her to bring it up." And Meredith says, "Yeah, because she was encouraged to bring it up." And she's Angie, she's going to do what she's told to do. We all know that. And she's like, "Yeah, you told her it would be funny." She goes, "Yeah, but I thought it was funny." So she goes, "Yeah, but that's sneaky." So now we find out that Heather is the one who told Angie, "Oh, you need to bring that up on camera cuz that

25:19 shit's going to be funny." And Heather doesn't really deny it. She's like, "Yeah, but it was funny." She goes, "No, that's snaky. That's snaky behavior." Telling Edie to do something and saying like, "It'll be funny. just say it. That's snaky. You're snaky. You know what? You are snaky. Andrew's like, "But you've told multiple, you know, you've told multiple people and now you're confirming." She's like, "But I'm just saying it as a fact." And you left at the airport and you said Heather told me to do it and she said it would be funny.

25:47 And you know what that is? It rhymes with bakey. It's snaky. It's snaky. It's also first f firstir firstirhand evidence uh not that we need any of Heather producing the show, right? Oh, you should bring that up on camera because that's that'll be a really funny moment. It's like yeah, it is a funny moment and it was funny that it was brought up. But it's like just can you just like can you just be you? Let them be them and like let be authentic rather than like like telling people what they should or should not do on camera, you know?

26:18 Yeah. Um because Lisa would do it anyway. Look, Lisa eventually would have done it anyway. She would have gotten been she would have gotten so upset that she would have been like, "You know what? Your husband farts while he makes out with people in bars. I've heard it." Uh, so but also I mean Lisa like you are the one who said it. So Heather could have Heather could you know Heather did apparently tell Angie do it. It'll be funny on camera and stuff like that, but Lisa you are the one who said it. So you know we can't blame Heather for everything although it is fun too. So Andre's like, "Yeah, but um Oh, Heather's like, "But I did think it was funny." And Lisa says, "Yeah, but you know what? We're not even in the best position." But I wouldn't have done that. I would say it to her face. Like I would say it behind my hair to her face.

27:05 But you were saying, "I don't do that. I'm a good person." And that's why I responded and I did it to your face, not behind your back. And he's like, "No, no, no. You were saying I never do this. I never do that." Things like that. And I was like, "But you know, you don't think it's snaky to hold your hair in front of your mouth and to say that about her? You were the original snake in the sisterhood." Oh, you know what? When you're ready to listen and not talk talk over me and tag team because you're like codependent in your responses and actions, you have to tag team. You have to like what is it like two snakes?

27:34 What? It's like two snakes. You're snakies. I loved Lisa I think really found her groove when with [clears throat] the whole are you ready to listen bit that she did multiple times because that did it was like a different vibe for her cuz normally Lisa's vibe is like I've never said that and this time she's like are you ready to listen when you're ready to listen I'll talk are you ready to listen [snorts]

28:00 Heather's uh Heather's saying yeah but um I mean that's really rich that we tag team I mean you Do I don't need to tag team tame. I don't need to tag team tame. Yeah, but you don't think you tag team with Meredith? Yes, you do. I'm [ __ ] solo, honey. Oh, you're solo. Yes, I'm solo. I'm solo, right, Meredith? She's solo. See,

28:19 she is a solo. Here. Here, you say the solo part and I'll say low. Okay. So, another tag

28:31 team. We're not a tag team. Sorry. You know what you are, Heather? You're sn okay. We need to work on it. We need to work on it. We need to work on it.

28:44 So, space is different than Lisa's version of a space. So, therefore, there's different time in between our words coming together.

28:52 No, the word was snaky. It was snaky. So, I say snake and you say key. Okay. Let's try it again.

28:58 Snake. C. Okay. Well, you know what? That was close to the part. You just closer. But that's if we had a three that's if we had three people, but we just have two people. We have to keep it to like two two syllables.

29:12 What about if you say Okay. Well, what about if you say sn and I say and you say c and I say

29:18 you know what? When you're ready to listen. When you're ready to listen, call me. When you're ready to listen though, won't we just stand up for ourselves? Okay. And there's like then why is she writing for you so hard? She's writing for you so hard. It's not writing for me. is called being a supportive loyal friend. Yeah, she's a she's a she's a family who she's a [ __ ] from New York with a family that poses. I'll say it and I mean that as a compliment. Yeah, that's exactly how it's met. It's exactly how it was taken this year. My Christmas card said, "Merry Christmas, Wiggy Wiggy, from the family of New York with the family that pauses."

29:58 I mean, did you watch the last episode, Heather? Writing is a very Utah thing. Well, you're not from Utah, so you would know. So, no, I'm not. I'm not. Yeah, you But you are from Utah. Oh, sorry. You are from Utah, so you would know. That's what I meant to say. Thanks for not correcting me, non-tag team people of my team. Anyway, you're from Utah.

30:19 I was reading notes. I was reading notes. I was reading notes. I can't do everything. Okay.

30:26 You're from Utah. You wouldn't know a thing. I'm not from Utah. No, I'm not. No, I'm not from Utah. No, I'm not. Utah's gross.

30:34 I mean, how long have you lived in Utah? You're a real house off of Salt Lake City. You live 25 years in the sisterhood.

30:40 Yeah, but guess what? My DNA is not Utah. Okay. Well, what is your DNA? It's Kit Kat Diet Coke in New York. Thick and through. Always. Always.

30:51 My My DNA has red pigtails in a braid. Okay. Cuz my DNA is Wendy's. That's it. You know what? Wendy's doesn't have a state. It doesn't have a state.

31:01 It's universal. But if it did have a state, it' probably be New York. Yeah, you should stop trying to be so frosty.

31:09 Guess what? It's like trying to figure push a square into a circle. And the square is a burger from Wendy's. Yeah. You know what? You know how I know what my DNA is? Because there's a company called 23 and me. They used to just be called like 23, but then they got a picture with me. So, they started calling themselves 23 and me. Like they're so impressed with themselves. They wouldn't do that for someone from Utah. Utah's gross. Like did you know that spelled backwards Utah means hatu? Like whatever.

31:37 Yeah, whatever. Guess what? You know what DNA spells? You know what it stands for? The D stands for Dinkens. The N stands for the New York Knicks without the K. And the A stands for Astro Place. That's all New York, baby. Yeah, it's from New York. And um Andy's like, "Uh, so Mary, do you agree with Heather?" And Mary's like that Lisa is a risky friend. Absolutely. Absolutely. How am I risky, Mary? Okay. How am I risky? You know what you I want you to answer. Side examples, please. She's like, "Okay, well, let's start off with you're a little bit delusional." Okay. Does anybody want to define what actual risky friend means cuz this doesn't make sense either. She's like, "You you're delusional and that's why you're risky cuz you believe things that aren't true.

32:19 Like you just said, you live a different life from all of us, which doesn't even make sense. And that's just sort of offensive. I mean, that's sort of offensive. I have a painting of me being held by Jesus in my church. What do you have?

32:32 That was paid for by a lot of SNAP benefits. So, what do you have, Lisa? I have snaps, too. Like, I was like really into snaps like um Yeah, like snap bracelets. I kind of invented those when I was a kid. Yeah. So, I don't think that makes me risky. Um, I think um I think a risky friend is the f is like a Christopher Walkin character in like a crime movie who's like, "Hey, uh, I got a thing going on. Will you help me with this thing? Will you just pick me up in the car at this time in front of the bank?" Uh, that's my Christopher Walkin. But I think that's

33:06 I like that you just got out of bed today and you're like, "You know what? Today is going to bring a Christopher Walkin. I don't care. It's going to get in there. It's going to get in there somehow. God damn it.

33:18 What I need is to have the car in front of the bank and when I show up, no questions, just hit the gas and that's it. To me, that's a risky friend cuz you're getting me involved in your bank robbery. That's very obvious.

33:30 You don't even have to go into his movies. I mean, look up Natalie Wood's death. You know, Christopher Walkan is literally a risky friend. Okay? Like, you do not want to go on a boat with Christopher Walkin. Not even making a joke. He's like

33:42 with with what's his face? Um, hold on. Let me look it up. No, not Jack Wagner. Not Park Overall either. Don't even say it. Don't even say it.

33:51 Could you imagine Jack Wagner? He's like, "All I [screaming] need is a life preserver for Natalie. Someone, please."

34:00 You sang that song, right? [clears throat] What I'm saying is Robert Wagner. Yeah. Husband. The the theory is ro Robert Wagner threw her overboard after drugging her because she was having an affair with Christopher Walkin at the time. That's like the

34:15 the you know, guess what? I'm going to say both of them risky friends. Risky friends. That's a risky friend. Yes. Like you you went on a boat, you know, your friend your friend didn't come back that you might might have been having an affair with. That's a risky friend.

34:31 A risky friend. You know who's a risky friend? Jen Shaw. Jen Shaw is a risky friend because she is a criminal. So that's a risky friend. But like Lisa is a risky friend. I just don't I I'm open to it. I'm vastly open to it. But like I just you need to provide your receipts, your proof, your timeline, and your screenshots. Ma'am.

34:53 Yeah. I mean, I think look, being friends with a real housewife is a risky endeavor in general. You're all risky friends. That's why you're hired.

35:00 We say that as someone who's befriended various housewives and get canceled. That's a great trick. That's a great skill that we have is befriending and then being like, "Oh my god, we hung out with so and so. Everyone in Crappins Lamb, guess what? We all We just hung out with so and so." And then the next episode they say something racist and we're like, "Just kidding. Everyone, take it back. We're risky friends."

35:22 So, um, Lisa is like, "You know what? I wouldn't be insecure or think that was delusional. I wouldn't be offended by that because I do lead a different life. Like, I lead a different life than you. Sorry. Sorry, you guys. Um, and Meredith is like, "Well, I don't think I think everybody lives a different life from everybody here, and I don't think there's anything insulting that. There's nothing insulting. You know, my mattress is clean. I live a different life than Heather Gain. It's just not an offense. It is what it is."

35:54 And Mary's like, "But how it was said, that's just not how it was said." And then Heather like turns to Angie and goes, "See, and this is not tag teaming." I'm like, "But you're tag teaming with Angie right here." I mean, like, I just don't think tag teaming is is a it's it's not a a new phenomenon. Like, that's sort of like the big thing. I'm I'm sorry. Was there anyone on this show who had a meteorological event named after their tag teaminess? Was there anyone named bad weather?

36:21 Bad weather. Bad weather. Talk about risky friend. You're literally bad weather. That's the definition of a risky friend. You're like, you could blow my hat off.

36:31 You could not from a store that wouldn't really let any of you in. Uh, says, "Witney, why were you so eager to bring up the lawsuits at lunch on the RV trip without Lisa being there to defend herself?" Oh, well, it's because she didn't want to talk about her own stuff.

36:49 Team tag team. Well, I don't believe you were away at work. I think there's a different reason. I don't know what, but you've never missed a girl trip and you've never missed an opportunity to film. And I don't believe that you were. Whitney, are you going to finish your sentence? I wasn't talking. You were You were talking tag teaming. You were tag teaming. And I've never seen you post a picture of Ben Affleck. Well, you know, we don't talk about Ben Affleck on this TV show because he was the original tag team with Matt Damon and we don't approve of tag teams in this sisterhood.

37:31 Well, do we have to post anything? I mean, if if a tree fell on Ben [ __ ] in a wood and Matt Damon wasn't there to post it on Instagram to Ben [ __ ] dead under a tree in the woods or what?

37:45 But you know what? Like I I do work and I do do amazing things. Like Heather's been to events of mine. Okay. And Whitney's like, "But I thought you were in Miami recovering from a you know, a facelift." No, no, no. I was there working. I was there working. How dare you? How dare you? Wait, you thought Lisa was in Miami recuperating from a facelift? This is good stuff. Yeah, cuz she I saw her. I had seen her. She said she was with Ben Affleck to one person and then I saw pictures of her in Miami. But then I saw pictures of Ben Affleck in Miami and I said, "Lisa got Ben Affleck's face in Miami." And then the first photo I ever seen Lisa post bareface, no makeup, and she looks so beautiful. I'm complimenting you, Lisa.

38:35 Why um why did she no one just go on the internet and see where Ben Affleck and Blake Lively were that day? Like it's just this easiest way to cross check. I had a night that I was friends with Blake Lively and then everyone in crappins got mad at me like how could you be friends with her? I'm like but she's pretty and famous.

38:53 She said she'll do the crappies. You got to do what you got to do. Talk about a risky friend. She took a picture with me at a party. We're best friends. No, that's Lisa. And Lisa is very well, first of all, the whole like, okay, I thought you got a facelift because I went online and I saw a picture of you barefaced with no makeup on, so I assumed you got a facelift. I don't think that that's what I mean, every picture I get of people with the facelift, they're either in bandages like, "Hey, look, I just got a facelift," which we don't necessarily need to see, guys, by the way, or they're like with a full face of makeup trying to hide the, you know, scars and stuff. I've never heard the accusation like you're a bareface like you got.

39:38 Wouldn't you have seen the marks if she got the facelift? I don't know. Why are we worried about it? And if she did get a facelift, how much was it? Can you get us a discount? I would love one. I want to look like Blake Lively. So Lisa's like, um, you know what? I'm going to show you my picture of Ben Affleck in my phone because I know him. I know him. Look, it's a picture. Then she shows a picture of Lisa when she's in like the ninth grade next to bed although the proof is in the pudding. You just ate the 2017 pudding. Stupid. Why did it look like it was from 2003? It was from 2017. We had like good cameras in 2017 on our phones, but it was all grainy and like washed out and the colors were weird.

40:20 I love that. That's her proof that she was with Ben Affleck a few months ago. A picture from 2017. You know what the funny thing is? Instead of saying, "Hey, my friend Lisa's a baddie and she's done really cool things for 18 years cuz she's a true New Yorker. That's her DNA." You'd rather denigrate it and say, "I don't believe her. I don't think she's there. If I did that with every single one of what you guys did, the list would go on and on and on and on." Yeah. You know what? You know what I need more for this group? I need more people saying, "You know what? My friend Lisa's a baddie. My friend Lisa's a baddie. Um, I have to point this out that right before this Whitney goes, "Yeah, but there's a lot of good doctors in Miami." And Mary goes, "Well, he wasn't a good one.

41:06 [ __ ] off, man. How does no one tell Mary to [ __ ] off?" Like, honestly, she's so funny on this show. Like, from an audience perspective, I love it. But how is no one just like, "Fuck you, Mary. Okay, you're the What are you hiding under those gloves? What are you hiding?" I I think they just feel bad for her because of everything going on in her family at the moment. But like her time will come. No one likes it when someone's more popular. And Heather will come for Mary soon enough. So,

41:31 well, it just doesn't make sense. Why are you upset that her son Why are you feeling bad for her that her son's an addict, but you don't feel bad for Meredith that Meredith is an addict according to you guys? Like, come on. This is like firsthand addict.

41:44 It's only It's only It's only It's only We only feel bad for it if it's someone you know. Come on.

41:50 It was a child. Um, so Lisa is going on about like, I wish people would call me a baddie and be like, "Lift me up and like praise me for the work I'm doing." So Angie's like, "Are you saying that anyone here who's done cool things um that you've only done like one or you only have one half franchises or I could count your money? You are negative. You don't even do it yourself." Celisa's like,

42:12 "Yeah, but I said that after you said I don't understand my business." You said you don't understand my business and you called me Jen Shaw. That's why I said that you you only have one and a half franchises. And she goes, "You don't understand my business." Yes, I do. I'm not dumb. I'm not dumb. I'm a baddie. God, go open a salon then. No, I open lounges and I'm really good at that, too. I open up good lounges. And she's like, "That's not a hair salon. Beauty industry is different from what you do." No, it's the same concept.

42:42 Okay. I understand the service industry extremely well. Like for instance, when you open up a hair salon, you have to make sure you're stocked with like Vita tequila and vodka and make sure all the nozzles are in and you need to have little soft ottomans for people to sit on when they got their haircut. I understand pretty well.

43:00 Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, Fresh from Wolf is for sale online says, "Veronica, and by that I meant the domain name." um says, "Broin, why jump on the bandwagon and air out the various legal issues concerning Lisa instead of saying it to her face?" And she's like, "Well, [clears throat] at that point, Mhm. Lisa and I weren't speaking and um I have long hair now and I don't have to answer this question if I don't want to. Um but I will because I'm an honest person and honest people love to answer questions." And she'd block me on everything. She'd block me on everything. So, how could I answer her questions? How could I ask her? How could I ask her to her face?

43:36 How could I do that? Got you. I got you from fresh from Wolf is for sale, the domain name I mean on the internet. Got to you nailed it.

43:44 Yeah. You know, she made it very clear to me in New York that we were not friends and we were never friends. And she continued to say stuff on Twitter that proved to me that we'd probably never be friends in the future. So, I didn't come with documents. I didn't research anything. It just was in the newspaper. And I never accuse you of anything. I said, "This is what I read and this is what I saw and it's concerning." And I can feel that way. I'm allowed to feel that way.

44:03 Are people not allowed to read newspapers anymore? H Aren't they not allowed to renew?

44:07 But it was the denigrate my character. Denigrate. I've said it two times now. Pretty cool, huh?

44:13 Yeah, it was Snaky. Well, you know what? The same way that you denigrated my character the last time I saw you. No, you denigrated your character with lies. Yeah, that was a live denigration. You did it. You're You're really good at live denigrations. All right. Well, you know what? You play with fire, you're going to get played back. Some would say you play with fire, you're going to get burned. You don't get burned. The fire actually plays back with you. It's actually really sweet.

44:36 It's actually You're like playing a card game with fire. You're playing a card game with fire.

44:39 You ever see those movies of those videos of It feels like a movie, you know, of like a a kitten and like a you know a like a lion playing and you're like, "Oh my god." You would think that one would eat the other but they are actually just like friends. That's like you playing with fire cuz fire is playing with you and it's just so sweet.

44:55 So what are the facts, Lisa? What are the facts? Do lions play with chickens or is that AI? I just can't tell anymore. Like you know what the facts are? That I have one pending case which we hope to have resolved as summary judgement and there's one case actively being litigated and you know what I gave it a side of honey mustard and it's much more comfortable now and the rest are dismissed and I wasn't worried about it and I don't know why anyone else was worried about it. I I just don't get it.

45:24 Wait, why can't you have judgment in the winter? Why does it have to be summery judgment? Okay,

45:30 you know what? Just shut up, Whitney. You're just so stupid. My god. Don't downgrade the judgment. Okay.

45:36 You're literally an idiot. Um, but a summary judgment would mean that you'd have to pay them. That's what it means. Because you say you're richer than all of us and you owe hundreds of thousands of dollars. And she know what? Denied. You know what? Deny. If I had a step, I would say deny. Deny. No, that's not what summary judgement. Bronwin's like, "That's not what summary judgement means." She goes, "Yeah." Yeah. Because I've wanted a summary judgement before. And you know what, Bronwin? your case was very different than mine because I wasn't in a criminal case. I had a civil litigation and you know what? You've been sowed. You've been sued. She you know what? Whatever you say about me is to deflect you and you you'd owed these people money and you were paying them back and that is the truth. You're not paying them back. Okay? You're not paying the people back the money that you owe them.

46:21 Denied. Denied. Denial. Denial ain't just a river in in in Egypt. What is it? But I mean if you're not paying them back then that's a bummer. You should you should but you do owe them money. I mean it doesn't matter where rivers are. It doesn't matter where the river is. You owe that you owe the river money.

46:38 You have criminal allegations. You have criminal allegations. No I do not have criminal allegations against me. No. And you don't understand the law. Even though you went through like Yeah. Cuz you went through it all with the law. You don't understand the law cuz you don't know the law. You fought the law and the law fought back with you and played with you like fireplace with people. Yeah.

46:55 Mhm. Mine was actually dismissed with the judge and yours was dismissed because you paid those people back or you're trying to

47:02 That's not true. That's not true. It's denied. Denied. We have any proof that that Bronwin's stuff was dismissed because Brunwin is still so squirly about talking what talking about what all that stuff is. I thought her stuff wasn't dismissed. I thought they made some kind of agreement and then it was sealed that it was dismissed. If I'm so confused by the whole Bramlin case, I need clarity. I need clarity, please.

47:28 Anybody? But Ronwin's very good at this cuz they still don't get it out of her. And uh she just keeps on nodding until they all agree. She's just like, you know what? It's a very different situ. Yeah, but you know what? It's a very different situation. That's what I said, Lisa. No, it's not. It's what I said. Why is my head shaking? Why is my head nodding? My god, my head hurts. Oh my god, my threads. My boink my threads just came undone. Oh my god, her face just falls to the ground. Got her. Bra was like, "Nailed it. Got her. Got her.

47:55 So Andy's like, "Okay, well, you're both telling me what each other's situation is." Well, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to tell you what my situation is. And like, "Okay, we have all of our cases against us have been dismissed." And which means we basically have won them all. And there's like one pending litigation, just like one stupid little pending litigation, and that's it, you know?

48:14 No, you never owed anyone money and they just made it up to be mean. Lisa Barlo, that's what you're You know why you're all worried about it? Other than the fact that like you're just like whatever, you know?

48:25 Well, the same reason you're worried about all of our lives. The same reason you're worried about all our lives. That's why.

48:29 You know what? Bronwin just got here and the bottom line is like last year you lied about me and said I said I faked I I I said you said that you faked. Okay. You lied about me and said that I said that you faked a miscarriage to someone that I said I didn't say to.

48:43 No. You know what? Don't say another word about it because we've decided we've decided we're not going to talk about that anymore. We don't talk about things that I don't want to talk about. Only things that I want to talk about. No, no, no. We're only going to talk about it.

48:53 I say a half word and Meredith does the other half the word. No, I have abided by the truth. And you and and that you and I said that we would leave families alone. Brain, you've been talking about family. What are you talking about? I mean, I guess she was talking about Meredith's family technically, not Lisa's, but whatever. Come on, you hypocrite. I think Lisa I think Lisa bringing up the miscarriage again. And it's like I'm like what are you oh Lisa you're going to you're cuz what's going to do is it's going to sidetrack the entire conversation as it actually does into you said you wouldn't say that and now you've said it and it becomes something else entirely. It's like I was like Lisa don't bring up the miscarriage thing like let that one just die because it's not going to serve you right now.

49:33 Yeah but Brahmwin's saying because you you are the one who's worried about our lives and she's like no I was never worried about your life. You accu you asked me to go talk to the mother-in-law or whatever, the the par the uh the kids of the parents and then you accused me of saying all of this stuff. I wasn't into your life. You told me to go into your life and then you accused me of all this stuff. And Brahma's like, "No, you're not allowed to talk about that." Well, stop putting her in the position where she has to defend herself with it. I mean, I don't know. But she's like, "You were the one who lied about saying that I said that you had a miscarriage."

50:06 which is so the show by just that line in general is just so the show. You said that I lied about you saying that I lied about miscarriage. You you said I had a miscarriage. Barbara Walters, they're snaky. Snaky. [snorts] Well, okay. Okay. You said you and your husband said you would piss on my head every private conversation you denigrate my character cuz you're denigrating my character. Hold on. Okay. By the way, I forgot to mention I went to a house cuz I looked at a house with the solid on SLC people and I went into the den and there was a great in the den and I said den great.

50:38 There's a den of great right now. Guess what? Yeah, that's called word play. Yeah. See, don't want to be uh Okay. Well, okay. I have I don't know what that metaphor was, but I have said nothing about your family and I've said nothing about your children and you continue to bring my daughter up and I don't care what version you want to say. You can just keep on doing it over and over and over again. Okay. No, I'm not talking about your daughter. Okay. It's an example of your bad behavior of the daughter you didn't have. Okay. Well, you know what? See, that's not going to help cuz like using an example that involves my daughter is speaking about my family and I have begged you to stop and I've told you to stop and you keep on you keep on going forward and every time you do it. No. Huh?

51:13 To me, no. Because you you're the one accusing her of being a liar and she's saying no, you're a liar and this was an example that you lied. Just because your daughter had something to do with that example does not mean that you didn't lie about it. I'm sorry. I'm giving it to Lisa on this one because she didn't say anything bad about the daughter. She didn't. She's just saying you lied. You You accused me of doing this thing regarding your daughter. That's all. And if your husband can sit there and say all this mean [ __ ] about Lisa all season long, then your farty ass husband can take the payback. Todd doesn't get to come in here and be a part-time housewife. If Todd wants to come on and [ __ ] talk everybody else and say horrible things about them, then they're allowed to watch the show and then say shitty things about Todd,

51:54 you know, and she didn't say anything about your daughter. And Todd can handle his goddamn self if he wants to.

51:59 Well, conveniently, just the other week at Bravo Con, a fan sent me a video of you talking about my husband, and you were body shaming him, talking about how fat he is, how small his penis is. And I have the video the fan sent me. I am so angry that you talked [ __ ] about Todd on a video that here I'm going to put it here for all Americans to see cuz I'm so mad that people are spreading these lies about Todd and I want America to see these things that they're that you're saying. I cannot believe that you would say that Todd is fat. America, go look at him. Look at Lisa saying that Todd is fat. Can you believe it?

52:30 Can we can um Andy, could we roll the video? I I labeled it [ __ ] tits. Okay, great. Thanks. Thanks. Mhm. Lisa.

52:40 So the video comes up and Lisa, these people at Bravo, these fans are so shady. Filming Lisa from in between two other people as Lisa just openly [ __ ] talks Broadway and Lisa's going, "Yeah, you know what? It's because Todd, like I didn't even know if that was like Todd or if it was like his belly. It's like so big. It's like so big. He has like boobs. He has like hairy boobs. I think they're called his belly. Is that

53:05 you can't even see it? He probably can't even his own character. His his belly is in the way of his denigration. [snorts]

53:16 You just didn't say one thing about my husband. You've been in Tik Tok comments. You've been on Twitter. You continue to this day. That's a lie. Which it's not a lie, Lisa. You have [ __ ] been doing it. I wish Lisa would just say, "Yeah, well, he's talking [ __ ] about me, so tell your husband to shut up first."

53:32 Well, I mean, up until we were in Greece, you were saying my husband was a dirty old man and a pervert. Okay. Yeah, cuz he is. Yeah, cuz he is.

53:38 You were saying that he's like going on airplanes and looking at pictures of other women and flirting with him.

53:42 Yeah, he is. That was you. That was you were saying. That was actually You accused Todd of cheating on me. Yeah, that was yo. And then you denied it the next day. No, that was you, too.

53:54 You accused Todd of stealing cherries from the top of a Sunday before someone's ready to give it up.

53:57 That was yo. That was you. I saw it. Yeah, it was yo. Okay. Well, you know, stop accusing me of doing things that I'm accusing people of. Okay, Lisa. Okay. So now, um, Rom's like, um, nobody looked up your husband's ex-wife. Nobody needed to look up my h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h's ex-wife either. It's like, you know what? You care a lot about John Barlo. You care a lot about John Barlo. Well, I care because you talk about my husband non-stop. I mean, non-stop. So, I'm going to bring up John Barlo then. The truth is over then.

54:25 Yeah, but I don't talk about your husband. You know what? But I can start. I can start. You know what? Let's talk about Todd Bradley. The dirty old man. Todd Bradley. The dirty dirty old man. Todd Bradley, let's talk about it. His penis is under his fooa and everybody knows it. How many times do I have to tell you to stop talking about my husband? This is the clip. Um, so then we come back to president and Brain's like, you know, you've continued after our truths to speak about my husband and you're saying it right now. You're doing it right now, Lisa.

54:54 Yeah, cuz he's a dirty old man, so whatever. Okay, you can laugh all you want. All you want all you want all you want. Okay, do not talk [ __ ] about Todd. Okay, we are in a wonderful, wonderful relationship. That next episode, I'm going to reveal that we are separated. Yes.

55:11 Yes. I love Todd so much. Andy, can we roll that that FA clip again? That would be great. Want to stand up for Todd again. I just love him so much. Okay. Well, you can laugh, Lisa. Yeah. Well, hold on. Haha. I laughed. Okay. Well, you can do it again. Haha. God damn it, Lisa. Stop laughing. We had the truth. Well, I did think that you guys had a truce. Are you guys still doing your truth at all?

55:35 Well, yeah, but I I've abided by the truth, but Lisa continues to break the truth at every turn. She breaks the truth, Annie. She breaks the truth.

55:42 That's a beautiful speech. It's a true speech. It's a true speech. It's a true speech then.

55:46 Beautiful speech. Beautiful speech. Okay, let's get to the facts. What facts? How How How have I broken the truth? Um, I'm talking now. I'm talking when you're ready to listen. Well, I'm talking, too. How have I broken the truth? What have I said about your husband or your children? What have I said?

56:02 You won't let me talk to Meredith. Oh, I'm I'm sorry. Um aches. You won't let me talk.

56:12 Aches to aches. Aches tank. Okay, you do the first part of the word. I'll do the second part.

56:22 Okay. What I was trying to say was talk. Thanks a lot, Meredith. Thanks a lot. Thanks.

56:28 We had a truce, okay? And since that truce, the only thing I've said was to Britney, and I was relating to her on something about Brain's behavior. And just like after our truce, you know, do you remember the truths? Anyone remember the truth? No.

56:42 I was just doing the second half of your worm. That's like a snake. It sounds like a snake. Is that Heather? Are you making a Heather sound?

56:50 Snaking. Am I doing this right? I'm going to get it at some point. We're going to tag team and we're just going to tag team at some point.

56:59 Okay. Snack cake. No. Okay, you do. Okay. Snack. Excellent. Expedalious subjunction dismissed. Case dismissed. Okay. Okay, this has been entertaining to watch you two, but like what do I have to stop about Todd?

57:27 Um, I really forgot where we were. But you know what? After I saw your husband say he wouldn't piss on my head if my brain was bleeding or on fire. You know what? That's not very nice. Like if my brain was on fire, he should piss on my head. Like does I would anybody else's husband like to offer to piss on my head? Cuz that's what a true gentleman would do. Like who says that they wouldn't piss on a wife's head?

57:49 That was so rude. That was so rude. Excuse me. And I need keep I need to keep I need to keep on saying these things cuz she's

57:57 No, but you hadn't even seen that yet. And that was in Greece that you were saying those things. You can't use that as an excuse. Well, I said your husband's a dirty old man. You know, like G, you know what? Gat dick sucker went viral. It's not my fault I went viral. I'm sorry. You know what? You should sue Tik Tok cuz they love me there.

58:14 You know what? It's your fault when you look at me in the eye and you say, "I don't want to speak about my husband or my children." And I say and then and you say, "Great. Me, too." And you continue to parade yourself out here with the wrong vict like as the wrong victim when you're the one doing this to my husband.

58:28 Okay. Yeah. Okay. And what is wrong with sucking your husband's dick? And Braum was like, "Not a thing. Not a thing. Wouldn't do it, but it's not a thing."

58:36 Mhm. Not pleasant. Nothing. It's not wrong. It's not wrong. It's just not It's just It's just gross.

58:42 It's not pleasant. I mean, Andy, if you could imagine um sucking the dick of the person that's always mad at Dennis the Menace. I mean, sure. You know, you know, some people are into that, some people aren't. There's nothing wrong with it, that's for sure. Walter Matau needs to get a stick suck, too, occasionally. Um, do I do it? You know, occasionally. Occasionally, but um don't wouldn't suggest it. Wouldn't suggest it. Can we roll clip? Roll the clip.

59:05 My response was to the fact that she said, "I don't work." And I said, "Well, I do work." And she said, "Well, you should get a job and pay those bills." Like, cuz I like work very hard. I work so hard opening lounges. Like, do you know there are children in this country who don't have access to lounges? It is my mission to open up a lounge in every single town and community. That's

59:28 I'm trying to get like poor children American Express chart cards so they're like allowed in lounges. And that's You know what? That's a job, Andy. And it's a job for the people.

59:38 Leave no child behind from a lounge. That's what I say. Lounge no child behind.

59:44 Yeah. I want to make sure that they have access to really overcooked bad eggs every single morning for free.

59:54 Yeah. Well, you know what, Andy? There's nothing funny about this. The only thing funny is that you and I are equal in this cuz we're not equal and I've done nothing to you in this regard. I've stayed the [ __ ] away from you. She goes, exactly that part. You know what? I've stayed the [ __ ] away from you, too. You know, but those videos weren't me talking to you. They were talking to me people at BravoCon. So maybe you should stop stalking me, you know.

1:00:15 Well, and I told you up below deck that I was like done with you and I meant it and you don't like you you talk about my husband at Bravo. Imagine being at BravoCon where people love you and want to talk to you and you want to talk about my husband's dick. Like get a [ __ ] life, you know?

1:00:29 Yeah, but you know what? Go ahead. That's what people wanted to hear. That's what

1:00:32 That's what people wanted to hear. They came up to me to Bravo Con and asked me about it because your husband was threatening to piss on my head if it was on fire. Okay, that's why. And you know what? in the galley. You cried and you said I'm [ __ ] sorry and you accepted my apology and we held hands. Remember that? They have footage of it somewhere. Show the footage. I look so good in that footage. Show it.

1:00:52 Here. Here's the footage that it sound like. You think that the footage is going to be like I am so sorry. I don't know how we got to this place and I don't want to be in this place. I don't know what happens, but I love you and I feel like maybe I lash out cuz I love you so much and it's my trauma and I have to deal with it, but I love you more than anything. And instead it's like, "Hey, I'm really sorry about that before." So, okay, talk to you later. Overall, I think Lisa's in the wrong this I have to say. But god damn it, I don't care.

1:01:29 Sorry. So, Bronwin's like, "Yeah, but I accepted your apology and then you go back and do it again." Yeah, but Bronwin, you also do. And that's why I can't care because Bronwin is exactly the same. She's like, "I won't come for you anymore." Immediately comes for you after, you know. Okay. Um, guys, we need a truce to not talk about anybody's marriage. Oh, guys, by the way, Seth was probably cheating in New York on Meredith. You know, like, come on now.

1:01:51 Andy's like, two rights don't make a wrong situation because Lisa does break the truth a lot. And um, and so then this is how we this is how we get into problems on the housewives in the world cuz Lisa Lisa breaks the truth. So then Brahmwin gets revenge by doing something in return. It's like no, just don't do that. Just Yeah.

1:02:13 Like keep keep your keep your high grounds. That way you can use it at the reunion.

1:02:18 Yeah. Um so um Andy is like, "Okay, well, as anyone who's ever watched Whitney tried to do a Wordle would say, we're not going to solve this." So look, just stop talking. All right. We we've got a lot of comments from people about your smokey eye in the interview. Lisa, you want to talk about that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, it's like much lighter than everything. Okay. So, like I'm in the glam char and I'm like not paying attention anything at all and like I love my makeup artist and she is amazing and kind and sweet and everything to me and like you know she just like messed up, you know. Well, is she here with you today? No. Has she worked with you again? Yes, she's she's worked with me again. Um I sent her to a work camp in Cambodia. Um and I think she's doing really great. I've seen a lot of a lot of workers um with smoky eyes. And I mean it basically looks like you know workers doing a tribute to the Heather

1:03:18 Gay black eye moment in season 2. Love you girl. Season 3 or season 4. I mean I don't really remember.

1:03:25 I'm reverse tippyhedrin. So Lisa Mary's like, "Well, why was your eye like that?" She goes, "Well, I mean, I probably cried in the confessional and like one of my lashes probably came off and then it probably was one of those exploding lashes that had an ink sack in it, so it exploded all over my eye and no one noticed cuz they saw that the rest of my face was so pretty. They were distracted. So, it was like an honest mistake." Yeah. You know what? I went for a look and it didn't land. It just didn't land. Sorry. Okay. Well, Beverly from Hill says, "Angie, are you trolling Lisa with your Arby's and Kodigo partnerships?" Um, what is Kodigo? Can somebody

1:04:02 I don't know what Kadiggo is, but whatever the Arby's is. I'm probably It was probably not called Kadigo. Oh, is it Kadobo? Maybe. Is it a Kadobo partnership?

1:04:13 I don't remember what he said. Kadigo. Kodobo. What? Any partnership that you have. Are you trolling Lisa? are you trolling Lisa with your dingo stole my baby partnership? And she's like, "No, not at all. I've had some really amazing brand opportunities that came to me." He's like, "Oh, that seems LIKE A FLIGHT TROLL. HE SEEMS LIKE A FLIGHT TROLL." It's not a troll. If you get a if you get like a if a the fast food company may be trolling Wendy's, but if if Arby's comes up and says, "We want to put you in a commercial," you're going to be like, "Sorry, I can't do that." That's like trolling Lisa. It's like, "No, give me give me that bag and I will announce that we have the meats."

1:04:54 Okay. And by the way, that is also a direct message to Arby's. If you need me to do some spawn con, I will because I enjoy my Arby's and I'm very upset that the Arby's on Sunset Boulevard has been demolished and the sign is nowhere to be seen. That was an iconic sign.

1:05:07 Oh my god. I mean, not for the sign being gone. I I missed that sign, too, but that place needed to be demolished. That bubbly meat is disgusting. And Wendy's, I'm here for you.

1:05:16 Arby's. Arby's. Mr. Arby, please don't listen to my podcast partner. I will do your spawn con.

1:05:22 No, I think I think I think you should get an Arby's and I should take a Wendy's. No, even better yet, you know who I'll fight to the death for? What a burger. That's who I will go to the map for. They're amazing and I will fight for you. What a burger. Call me

1:05:35 all the fast food. Honestly, I'm not going to lie. I'll do it all. Give it to me. Put it in my veins.

1:05:41 Yeah, Arby's is the only one I find completely revolting, but the other ones I'll do. So, um I like that we're pretending we have a chance.

1:05:48 Yes. No one's listening. All right. Let's just uh let's just keep weighing our options here. You have no options.

1:05:57 So, uh Andrew's like, "Well, I could see why you would think that, but they're not going to come to come to me based off my line." Like, "You do French fries. I do French fries. I mean, why wouldn't I do it? Why wouldn't I do it? I am Greek." And Andy says, "Well, what was your reaction to the Arby's ad?" And Lisa is like, "I didn't even see it. You know, I just found out like last night. Like it was so funny. Like last night I found out cuz like people have all benefited from my wins." So that's exciting for them. You know what? Good for you. You're welcome.

1:06:27 Uh not really. But thank you though. I am Greek. Lisa's such a liar. I just found out last night. Come on.

1:06:34 No, she knows. Wait, we can brand we can we can do brand campaigns because of you. What? So, you're the one who's been exploiting my vagina all this time?

1:06:48 I mean, if I were a credit card, I'd probably sue you for identity theft. It's like wanting to skin me and be me. Why don't you just try to be me? I mean, why don't you take off one of your eyelashes right now and blame your makeup person? Just be me.

1:07:00 Just do it. Okay. Okay. So, everything everyone does is on your back. Is that what you're saying?

1:07:04 No, but like when you're copying everything I do, I mean, what do you want me to say?

1:07:09 Wow. Wow. Wow. So, okay. Well, do you want to skin me and be me when you did something with a brand that I've been partners with for 30 years and you've got your own product. Did you want to be NGK with Keristos? I I don't even have any idea what you use. You know what I mean? Like, I've never even heard it come out of your mouth. Like, I'm the one who said Keristos, so it came out of my mouth. So, I got it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry that Keristos is a bigger company now because of me. You know, you know who I just wrote a sorry letter to? Keristos. I was like, I'm so sorry that you're richer now.

1:07:43 You're welcome, Billy. Lisa, I'm the one who gave you Keristos for the first time. It's like, yes, she brings bags of Keristos to every event, just like the pioneers did. Oh, tag tame. Tagtamed. They're tacting. I don't know about her. I know about Keristos because of Angie. Mhm. And I know I know that's where you got it from. I know where you got it from. I mean, that's the only place it could have come from. It's from a place called Sephora. That's where it's from. That's where I got it from. I don't know what you people I love that they're acting like only Angie has known what Keristos is. Like it could have only come from Angie Katavas, [gasps]

1:08:20 the original Keristos influencer. That's why That's why the show's so funny. It's like Lisa, you think that your success everybody's success is off your back? No. Because the only reason anybody of us knows what a hair product is is because of Angie. So Angie, everything is off of your back. That's right. It's also the only show that can go from a fight about um a lie about a miscarriage to I said first. Um so welcome back everybody. Okay, now we're going to have um we've had uh 100 episodes and a roster of famous fans like Rihanna, Julia Roberts, John Oliver, who crashed and burned when he said Meredith and Marks is wrong about everything a couple weeks ago and has been quoted in the halls of Congress.

1:09:09 So, let's go through the receipts prove done. Shut the [ __ ] up with the receipts proof timelapse. Just shut up with that. I've had it. I've had it with it. I've had it. It's done. It's over.

1:09:23 Ha ha. Okay. Great clip package. What a journey. I mean, this show has become such a huge part of pop culture landscape. I mean, it's got to be wild to know that Julia Roberts has opinions about your show that she'll tell me because we're of the same celebrity class, but won't tell you because you ARE STILL REALITY STARS. [screaming] AH, so I have to say during this big clip that they showed, they were showing all their best moments and their great reads and almost everyone had one, but Brahmwin didn't have one. I mean, they just had Bronwin being like, "Oh my god, like I like your dress." Like,

1:09:57 and she has good reads. I mean, Brawin has I I'm just I can't remember. Brawin doesn't have any like iconic lines from the show, does she? I can't think of it.

1:10:07 She had some editor. She's really good. Like she has she's had some great clapbacks, you know, like she's had some I mean at the very least they could have had her reading the line about one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel. I mean like she's

1:10:21 that wasn't that we all know Bronwin Bronwin can clap back really well. I just can't remember her clapbacks. But

1:10:28 I could the editors or anyone who makes gifts. What a coincidence. But I'm sure it's happened.

1:10:35 I don't know. U I'm Bronwin is I mean she had that black credit card moment earlier in the season. That was a good one. Oh no, that was last year. No, that was last year. She had that moment with the black credit card at the um at the what's it called? The breakfast of Tiffany's party. She had like she remember she kind of like put Heather Wait, no. What about that thing? She also had that great moment at Palm in in uh in Palm Springs where she like she read Heather. No, not not Heather. She read Lisa in the pool. I just don't remember. It's just It's like my brain is mush. But it was a really good moment. I was in all the trailers.

1:11:12 Taste dismissed. Taste test. Taste test. Taco tacos. Okay, we got to work on this now. Okay, we're going to be attack time.

1:11:24 All right. Okay. What a journey. And Mary's like, "Wow, what a pinch me moment." Julia Roberts, that's like huge. Even though I don't approve of her playing a hooker that time, I just thought she wanted to dress. I didn't even know that movie was about being a hooker till my husband told me woman.

1:11:40 So So did you ever think you would make it to season six, Meredith? She's like, "No, I thought my maximum would be 5 years and maybe that would have been a good idea." Okay. Well, you know, Whitney, how do you look back at this experience? Well, when I started this show, I promised myself and I promised Justin that if I was going to do this, I would um uh [sighs] line

1:12:13 you'd be vulnerable, stupid. Just say you'd be vulnerable. I'd be vulnerable and stupid

1:12:18 and dumb. So stupid. God. And then I would I would say something that would be so stupid. And then I would share what's I said, you know what? When I signed that contract, I looked at that bottle of Hershey syrup. I said, "You're coming with me to stardom. Get on the floor."

1:12:34 I remember promising Justin that I would I would stand up for my vagina being exploited. And I did it.

1:12:42 I said I'm going to be real, more real than anyone else has been. Cuz I'm a real housewife and I'm the realest of the real. M

1:12:50 Mary, when you started, I feel like you were defined by your unconventional relationship with your grandfather. And you know what's interesting now is that I would say of everything like it's kind of at the bottom of the paragraph. I mean, no one even cares that you're married to an old man anymore. It turns out Bronwin's husband's FOA has taken over. Would you like to thank Bronwood's husband, Todd? Go ahead. Just say thank you right now, Mary. Go ahead.

1:13:16 Well, I I I I don't I I I kind of felt like I wasn't part of the group and they didn't include me in the beginning. And I mean, Meredith did. I mean, Meredith did. But like now, I just feel like I see good in all of them. Uh I see beauty in all of them. And I just want them to be able to take accountability and grow and evolve. And I feel like if I could say two words to help, I will. And I just I kind of fell in love with them. I don't know.

1:13:39 I don't know what's come over me. Uh you told me that I couldn't be on this show anymore until I pretended to be nice to everybody. So, I'm doing it. What the [ __ ] do you want from me? I am glad that she uh I'm glad that she gave Meredith credit for being the only person nice to her because that's true and you are a Judas.

1:13:55 Um [snorts] so Andy's like, "Well, that's nice." So Lisa, do you consider yourself after being on the show for six years? Yeah. I mean, it's basically 12 because like Lisa Lisa Lisa performs in like dog years. Like it's amazing. Like I just won best decade in television. Thank you.

1:14:13 Thank you. Mhm. Um but anyway, um yeah. Um I I I do I'm 100% misunderstood by viewers. They just don't get it. Like they don't they're not like bilingual enough to understand like fabulous.

1:14:26 Yeah. Like the trees get me, but like no one else. And like when Pink came out with that album, Misunderstood, I was like, "Oh my god, why is my face not on that album?" Cuz that's me right now. I'm basically Pink. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Delusional. That's like a common theme that like people use that don't understand me because I'm not delusional. I'm like very grounded. Like I'm a very hard worker. I love my family. I love my workers who love my family. I love my workers who like are making this um this this part of my new home that like lets me touch the ground.

1:14:57 It's called the floor. Everybody's going to want them, Andy. Everybody's going to want them.

1:15:01 You guys, delusion isn't just a river in the in Egypt. So like think think about that a little bit. Yeah, it's

1:15:09 also a link and the the aderondex tant. Okay, guys. I know you've all been waiting for a monologue and here it is. Sisterhood, get ready cuz here it comes. I feel this rush of I don't know, affection and pride and I love that girl so much from season 1. That was really, really hard. You know, I knew what they were saying about me, which was we love Heather Gay. She's so great. And that girl is gone. And I knew what people were saying. And I I took it on the chin.

1:15:40 I took it on my old chin. And I got a new chin. So what do you think about that, America? What do you think about it?

1:15:47 And I didn't care because it was an opportunity of a lifetime. And even though I was at my lowest physically and emotionally and financially, but not fashionably. I just was going to let the opportunity I wasn't going to let it pass me by. Just like the opportunity was to not wear a bolero jacket to a wedding. [gasps] I was going to make sure that I took it and do whatever I could with it. And even if it meant I become a three-time New York Times best-selling author, I would have to do it. And I did. Regardless of people saying I didn't deserve to be there, I rose. I came through. Me, Heather Gay, did the brave thing of taking on a role on Real Housewives. Wow. You're you're really going to win the Pulitzer for that one.

1:16:31 Jesus. I like that she was talking. I mean, like, it's crazy that she's like, you know, I was at such a low point. I know what people were saying about me. And I have to assume that what she's meaning is that she was like fat shamed or body shamed or whatever. But like also at that time, people loved Heather Gay. They were like, "She's great. She's the star of this show. She's so wonderful. She's like an every woman, you know, like we all she's like a great Greek chorus." So, it's like she actually it makes me actually a little sad if if like she wasn't able to take away those those comments that were said about her at that time because now actually the audience has a very large part of the audience has turned against her and it makes me kind of sad if she doesn't realize how actually she was beloved back then and like it feels like she's lost her way a little bit.

1:17:17 Yeah. Um Yeah, I feel so sad. Um so Andy's like, "Okay, well we're going to leave it here. Here's to a hundred more episodes, by the way. How about a thousand more? God, I don't know. It hurts my butthole. I've got children. Okay, let's take a break. We're back. Um, okay. Ting ting ting. I have an announcement. Britney's joined us on the reunion stage, Britney. And she's like, Britney's teeth come out and they're like, I'm so happy to be here, Andy. And he goes, I know you are. She's like, "I mean, and I came with my emotional support bear. Look everyone, I brought a little Build-a- Bear." So Andy's like, "H, [sighs] does it speak?" Oh my god. Thank you for asking me. Look, here's a message.

1:18:08 I really do love you, Britney. And I always will, no matter what happens. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. [snorts] Oh yeah. Especially no matter what happens on the show. I just came into another woman. So,

1:18:26 there's a tag team happening all out there, by the way. I see Paris. I see France. I'm in a hooker's underpants.

1:18:35 Oh, yeah. Joker. Print it. Send it to Britney. Print it in the bear. So, uh, Andy's like, "He'll love you no matter what happens on the show." And she's like, "Well, I don't know what that means. I mean, I guess so. I mean, let's just skip that second part, but that's okay. He does love me. He loves me. He loves me." Okay, let's move on. So, this season, we had an Avengers style merging of Bravo Multiverse with a historic crossover of Below Deck. I'm back everybody. Let's talk about it. Let's see some blips from it.

1:19:16 So, we see flashback to that whole trip and then Andy is like, "Okay, first of all, what was it like being on another show's turf?" And, you know, they're all like, "What was the other show?" Below deck. Um, not familiar. Was that a is that a is that some sort of home renovation show about adding decks to your house and then living below that deck? I'm not familiar with this other TV show.

1:19:41 Andy, we didn't even know we were on another show. We don't even notice cameras anymore. We don't even notice production crews. Like, we were just on a trip.

1:19:53 Okay. Well, are you worried about what the reverse point of view will reveal? You know, they're like, why would we

1:19:59 I'm not watching that show. Heather's Heather and Angie are the only people watching that show. Everybody else is like, I don't watch that.

1:20:07 [gasps] Mary is like, "Well, I think maybe Heather and Whitney might have something to worry about, especially with the cucumber situation when they were being unchased." And we see flashbacks the stupid cucumber the cucumber thing. I'm already I'm I was done with it when it initially happened because it's like, why do we have to pretend like we don't know who the cucumber belongs to? You know whose luggage that is. You know whose room you're in. Why do we have to go with the stupid game and it's going to come back next season on Below Deck?

1:20:30 I'm not happy about it. So, um, Heather's like, "Oh, we had a good time in our room." Wink wink wink. Don't even see the cameras around me. And Britney, you sure I had fun flirting with the deck hands? God, what were you doing that to make Jared jealous or what? And she's like, um, it's so sad but true. Like, I didn't even know I was flirting until I watched it, guys. Then I was like, "Oh my gosh." And my daughter called. I just put it on silent. Um, and I just can I just say that Heather was probably the biggest flirt. Heather was the biggest flirt. Heather, you were bigger than me. No, you are.

1:21:05 I disagree. That's outrageous. You mean that's that's crazy. All I You were riding on

1:21:12 Go ahead. No, I was just saying that like just because I grabbed onto the hunky torso of Captain Jason just to make sure I didn't drown and by falling off the jet ski doesn't mean I'm a flirt. Did I whisper sweet nothings into his ear? Did I remind him that I was a threetime New York Times best-selling novelist and my next one was would be about a torid love affair with a lady and a captain who [ __ ] on a charter. Maybe, but I wasn't flirting with him. Yeah, but you were riding on his back. And she goes, "Well, that's what you do. That's part of water skiing. That's essential. That's just technique."

1:21:48 Okay, Heather, what is the final word on you and Captain Jason? Well, apparently the world had large bandwidth for what the phrase [ __ ] around means because like, okay, we hung out like every day. We went to the clubs. We danced. We had sex. His penis went into my vagina. But like, I don't understand why people think that we actually had some sort of intercourse. He He did me from behind. We didn't mean we've actually literally [ __ ] around. And cut to the clip of Heather being like, "Oh god, we've already [ __ ] around. There was nothing there." I don't know how people got that impression. It's crazy. So, you know, this morning I woke up and Captain Jason was inside of me and I said, "It is going to be so hilarious watching people think that we had sex today." Isn't that hilarious? God.

1:22:37 Guys, did I, By the way, do I have anything in my teeth that maybe left over of his chest hair that I was gnawing on this morning?

1:22:45 So, you didn't guess? And she No. And we were very clear about that, Andy. When we were kissing, we were very, very clear about it. I said, "Last month's helping, you know, I just don't know how people got that impression, Andy." They're just like, "Well, it didn't seem very clear to me." I mean, yeah, even even Todd's FA raised like a little tent. So,

1:23:09 it wasn't clear to me either. Talk team talk to team Meredith. Good job. Good job. Listen you guys, I You don't think that I would scream from the rooftops if I landed Captain Jason. You don't think des I would yell despite everything. I'm saying we had long sessions of sex. I had sex with the hot captain from Bravo. Even in a theoretical situation where it sounds like I'm saying I didn't have sex. Trust that I had sex with him. You don't think I would yell that out loud?

1:23:39 You did, Heather. You went on national TV and insinuate and basically said you [ __ ] around with Captain Jason. Yes, you did. You did scream it from the rooftops. So, it was just unfortunately for you. Stolen valor. It was like stolen stolen dick val V valor. All right. Well, # stolen valor says on Twitter, Brunin, just because a case is sealed doesn't mean a person can't talk about it. You just don't want to. And we know that you can be liberal with the truth. So, what do you say to that, Bronnin?

1:24:09 I like that. We know that you can be liberal with the truth. She's like, um, well, um, okay. Okay. Um, I just want to remind everyone that I have long hair now. Okay. So, um, look, um, the case being sealed does not mean that I'm barred from talking about it if I was the one who asked for it to be sealed, but I was not the one who asked for it to be sealed. And so, I've learned with my husband and my daughter that I have to be very careful about how I bring other people's business into this group. So, I will not talk about their sealed portion of this case because I've been requested even though it's not required, but it wasn't me who required the sealing of the case of the zip lock sealed things in. You can take your sandwiches, they'll still be fresh 2 days later. And that's all I'm saying about it. And I think that that was very forthright. Mhm.

1:24:55 That was very, very forthright. That was really good. So, outside of the sealed case and the eviction, were there other cases filed against you?

1:25:03 Oh, good question. Good question. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. There was something that happened in my workplace and the case was fully dismissed against the person it was about who wasn't me. And it was years ago and I Listen, Andy, I just got my citizenship this year. You think America is just letting anyone in here? I mean, we all know. Okay. You could not get into America if you had a problem with the law. Unless I was running for the presidency, of course. I love America. It was sealed. It was sealed.

1:25:31 Whisper, whisper, whisper, Meredith. Hi, Meredith. whisper. Okay, they weren't getting a reaction out of you until now, but now I'm done. Whisper, Meredith. [snorts] And then Andy's like, um, hey Meredith, have you heard about other lawsuits or charges? What are you guys whispering over this? Well, I haven't tracked any of this. Okay. I heard there were multiple multiple situations, but I didn't pay that much attention. I'm sorry to say. Okay. But it seemed like you were just whispering right now during this whole thing. and I'm wondering would you like to share with the class? Well, it wasn't about Broadway and actually it was something that needed to be noted in case we need to go back there at some point in time.

1:26:12 So, it was more like I put a sticky note on Lisa's forehead in the form of my whisper. That's what I did. She's my tag team partner.

1:26:18 Is this some sort of a tag team thing like Jason did with my boobs? Because I'm I'm just saying this seems like a tag team thing. Would you say it's a tag team thing?

1:26:29 No. No. Do we look like we're running around the set playing tag? I don't think so. We're

1:26:33 We don't need to tag tame. We don't need to. Yeah. Well, um, just saying that we might need to go back to I mean, that seemed a little tag teamy to me. It It seemed like that to me. You said I was tag team.

1:26:44 We might We We as a group may need to go back to the point. You said tag team. I just wanted to say it sounds like what's good for the goose might be good for the gander. Even though that's usually a phrase that refers to men and women, but whatever. Who cares? This is Salt Lake City. I'll say whatever I want to. I [ __ ] the gander. I [ __ ] the gander. Who is saying I [ __ ] the gander? That is insane. You know, I'm sick of these allegations. And I'm going to go back to my DJ set. Starting with the song Whoop, there it is. Whoop! There it is. Hey, that's my tag team. Oh, I didn't realize that was their name. I mean, you know what? It seems like you recruited a whole team. So, why are you allowed to have a whole team, but we're not allowed to have a tag team? What What's that about? I'm not supposed to speak to my friends, I guess. Well, well, okay.

1:27:31 Well, we know I'm not supposed to speak or feel. We know that already. Nobody wants Marks to have a feeling. So, I guess I'll just sit over here and feel nothing. Okay. Hey, everyone. If someone wants to shove me out into the cold, that's fine because I apparently don't feel anything anyway. And if I wanted to, I wouldn't be allowed to. So, sure. Send me off to Antarctica and I'll do some scientific discoveries for you because apparently I'm not allowed to feel anything.

1:27:58 Yeah, you should. Don't use your voice, Meredith. They don't like it when you use your voice.

1:28:03 Apparently, I'm not allowed to use my voice. Oh, apparently I could have made a deal with Ursula and it would have been fine. There would be no movie cuz I would lose my voice and no one would care about what would happen next.

1:28:12 And Heather goes, "Don't worry, she won't use her voiceun." Uh, Heather, you don't have to do the dun dun dun. Will you take care of it in post?

1:28:23 I didn't even do the dun dun dun. I don't know why people are accusing me of [ __ ] Jason in the dun dun dun. That is crazy. And we're back. My son lost his tooth. I

1:28:35 Nobody cares. Nobody cares. The tooth will set you free. Okay, welcome back. I'm Andy Cohen and here with the glorious Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Do you all have your teeth or at least some veneers in? Great. I don't want to cry again. All right, Lisa, once and for all. Did you leak information about Brunwin's past to the breast?

1:28:58 That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. That's so stupid. That's so ridiculous. I mean, whatever.

1:29:06 Well, okay. Well, I I um I don't I'm not What? Nope. Nope. I was tag teaming by saying the last syllable of my tag team partner's words. Excuse me. Am I not allowed to say syllables anymore? Is that

1:29:21 Stop using your voice. Stop using your voice. I hate it. Okay. Well, I don't think that Lisa leaked the I don't think she leaked it because leak is a very specific word, but I do think that she does make sure that the stories get traction about us when we fight with her. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. That's a lie. That's a lie. Okay. Okay. There's like some dumb stuff that comes up like on Twitter. Like I can read. Okay. I was an early reader so that makes me really good at reading tweets. So, if people didn't if people were wondering, can Lisa read tweets? The truth is like I if tweet if Twitter had been around like you know something years ago, I would have been able to read tweets before you guys. So, I'm like an early reader.

1:29:58 Yeah. Sometimes I started reading it on the cast. Yeah. Like I started reading at three and a half years old. It was crazy. Like I was reading in the womb. I read my mom's belly button.

1:30:09 Someday you're going to be able to read statements that are about 140 characters. And I was like, "Wow, I can do that." Cuz I'm 3 and a half years old and I can read already. Just bring

1:30:17 my mother. My mother's belly button was a retweet button. I kept kicking it. I'm sorry. You know what? I'm sorry.

1:30:24 Do you know what it's like to wait decades for technology to catch up with your reading skills? It's so hard.

1:30:31 But you know, the thing that was troubling for me is that um I was on Twitter before we went on the trip and it wasn't really everywhere and I know we all got tagged in it. But then while we were on the boat, somebody from the boat spoke to a media outlet and said, "Broma was late because of those Twitter allegations." And you know what? That could have been somebody on the boat who knew I was late because of that. And that's what really pushed the story huge was that I came supposedly late to the gas strip because of all of this. And who who did that from who did that from the boat? Who did that from the boat?

1:30:58 That could have been anybody. That could have been production. And you did come to the boat late because of those allegations. You said it yourself, so who cares? Like the allegations were out there and you just said they were already on Twitter. Like

1:31:11 don't come to the boat late next time because you saw what happened when Lisa didn't even go to the camping trip.

1:31:15 Okay. And you also did tell your husband Lisa had something to do with those rumors. You saw it. You you we saw it on camera. You did it on camera. We saw it on the television. Ronin, stop lying.

1:31:25 You did accuse it of like of the leaks. Sorry to break it to you, but no one was thinking about you or what was going on with you. I was having the time of my la taco.

1:31:39 You're really into the taco thing Meredith. It's like I'm so hungry. I'm sorry. What? Am I not allowed to have a taco? I guess we all know to have an opinion or a taco. Okay.

1:31:51 Sit over here quiet and starving to death. Is my stomach allowed to speak? It's growling right now. Be quiet stomach. You're not allowed to feel things. Okay. Okay. Well, uh, the only person I argued with on the boat was really you and Britney. And I don't think it was Britney. I don't think she's smart enough to understand how to use a telephone. Like, cut to Britney, like combing her hair with a telephone

1:32:14 somewhere. That's You think I'm doing all this crazy stuff while I'm running a lounge and being a mom? Do you know how hard it is being a mom with a lounge? It's like so difficult.

1:32:25 I'm running a lounge. Do you know someone's got to fluff pillows? So, I'm just a mother. I'm a mother. A mother with a lounge. I don't have time for this. And Heather's like, "It's not crazy. It's the click of a button." Well, you would know. And Lisa's like, "It is crazy. And I don't have an arsenal on anyone. I don't give a [ __ ] Like, whatever. I'm a mother with a lounge." Oh, really? Then why do you have six attorneys, Lisa? Then why do you have cyber security if you're not leaking things? Why would you? Why do you Why Why do you go the distance, Lisa? Why do you go the distance if you're not leaking things to page six?

1:33:01 Because I love Hercules. That's why. Okay, I'm sorry. Okay. When you've got a lot of lounges, you need a lot of lawyers. You need to have lawyers to have lounges, right? Isn't that what Karen Uger says? You have in order to lose lawyers, you got to lose lounges, right? Am I doing it right? You know what? Like, this is so ridiculous. Do you guys even know what businesses I do? Cuz I'm like fed federally regulated there. I'm federally regulated.

1:33:28 The Department of Interior Lounges checks my lounges every single day. You know what? They come and they grade my lounge. Like, it gets between an A, B, or a C. That's it. It's federally regulated. Okay. So, I'm sorry you guys can't deal with it.

1:33:43 Yeah, it's very scary. I have to send a report to Vince McMahon every single week making sure that my lounge is clean. Otherwise, I get barred, which is okay cuz I actually also have bars. So when you get barred in the lounge industry, you just turn your lounge into a bar. It works out actually pretty well. I don't even understand your business, Lisa Barlo. What is Lux Marketing? And how do you make money? I just don't understand it. I mean, you're an event planner. You're an event promoter. What are you? What? You don't know what Lisa does now? I mean, come on Heather.

1:34:14 Okay, let me break it down for you the way we break down a high top when a big party comes in. Okay, are you ready to listen? Are you ready to listen? Are you ready to listen, Heather? Yeah. What do you do? What do you even do? I don't even understand it. I mean, what the why do parties need plans? That doesn't even make any sense.

1:34:30 If you write a lesson on, we incubate brands, okay, until they become fulls size chickens. And I own companies and I incubate the companies and then I create a company with Bella Twins. Yeah. The Bella Twins. It's called N&B, which stands for not a Bella because I'm not a Bella, but it's my company. And then we sold it. We sold it like two or three years ago to like the Bella Triplets. Haven't heard of them. Well, that's too bad because we know about them and we sold it to them.

1:34:58 Yeah, it used to be the Bella Triplets, but then I killed one to make the business stronger and then we sold the business and it exited beautifully. Sorry, triplet. Sorry. Didn't make it into the branding, but I'm a brilliant brander. That's what I do, Heather. What do you do, Heather? She's like, um, I mean, look at my face. It says everything that I do. I'm a walking resume. What do you do? Like, I belly twins. That's all. And Meredith's like, "I was at multiple events for that." Three, actually, but one we pretended never happened. Okay, we got rid of that one. Well, I went to an event for that, but I heard you're not friends with any of them anymore. Oh, okay. So, now you do know what she does, but the the Bella twins hate her. Oh, okay. So, we're on to that. God forbid.

1:35:37 She's like, "No, I'm still talking." Yeah. You know what? Are you going to listen? Are you I'm going to tell you the same thing I told the triplet before she was asked. Are you going to listen? No. Okay. Bye. Goodbye. Good luck. Go see if you can join Hansen or something because you're done here. [gasps] I just Lisa gets so mad. She's like, I've you've been to events with Daniel Radcliffe and the Bella Twins and now you don't know what the [ __ ] it is. Get out of here. Like I invited you to my Daniel Radcliffe event. Do you understand?

1:36:06 You met Harry Potter through me and you're going to pretend you don't know what I'm doing for a living. Whatever. Shut up, Heather. And she's like, um, well, I mean, I know that you sold tequila. maybe you did that. And she's like, "Oh, really? Are you really that disgusting that you're going to question how I make my money when you've been invited to events with Harry Potter?" Like, seriously? How could you do that? And Brahman's like, "Why is it disgusting to ask her a question?" Mhm. Says Brain, who every time someone asks her a question. Well, I actually think that like for you to ask that question is like incredibly rude because like I'm a cure and I'm like dealing I've got my head in a fooa every single night and you don't even understand that.

1:36:49 I can't believe you're even asking me anything when we have a truce and I have it sealed and it's sealed and I'm a lawyer and Tom cheated but he didn't cheat. I got the necklace. I didn't get the necklace. I never said I got the necklace. I did say I got the necklace with some [ __ ] head full of [ __ ] explodes all over the stage. And by the way, you're tag teaming right now. What' you say?

1:37:09 By the way, you're tag teaming right now. Um, yeah. So, you know that Heather's like, "But does anyone know? Does anyone know what Lux Marketing does? Does anyone know?" I'm like, "To be fair, Lisa Barlo has been documented on Bravo many years ago marketing because Lily Gletchi called up Lisa Barlo and asked Lisa Barlo to help her with her bathing suits." And that's on camera and that clip is out there. I've seen it with my eyes. So Lisa has been working. She does work. So do you ever see that clip?

1:37:43 Yes, of course. We recap that clip. Just want to make sure. I just want to make sure I'm with you. I just don't want to um I'm just being quiet because I don't want to go too hard standing for Lisa's business when I honestly I don't know. I looked it up. I can't tell. Fresh Wolf the domain is for sale. Um you know that stuff is true. I don't really know what she I mean I she's a she explains it now and I kind of get it better but I just the whole I don't want to stand up for someone's business on housewives because we've seen how that goes before they so I'm just I don't want to do that

1:38:15 but I will say you know Heather who's like I'm all about women empowerment women business like she her suggesting that Lisa just is getting money fraudulently uh from what is she suggesting I guess I'm trying to figure out what like We never know where we stand with you. Like she called her a risky friend earlier. Like who are you? What are you? I don't get it. Like

1:38:37 I think she's trying to insinuate that she's a crook. She's got all these things out against her of people that she owes money to and Lisa's just a big fraud and her business is [ __ ] Nobody even knows what she does and she's got some Jen Shaw type fraud going on I think is what Heather's insinuating. So um I don't know. So but I do like that she asked the question because it leads to a really good uh Lisa moment. So Lisa's like, "I don't know you shit." You know what? I don't know you [ __ ] And you know what, Andy?

1:39:03 Was that kind and friendly or was that a full accusation? Was it an accusation, Andy? Was it an accusation?

1:39:11 Um, well, uh, well, it was not an accusation. It was a question. It was not It was not a question. It was an attack.

1:39:20 Yeah, it was an attack. It was an attack. And you know what? I do big things with big people. That's it. Like, I would even do things with Todd because he's so big. And you know what? Guess what? I'm a big [ __ ] deal. And what do you do? What do you do, Bronwin? What do you do? Because Todd says that you just spend his money. Like he sat there in Palm Springs and said she's spending my money on a play. So what about that? And Bronwin just stays quiet cuz that's true. Like Bronwin coming for someone about their job is hilarious. Like, okay, thanks for the pride flag I the pride flag I got in the mail, but like you're not allowed to be having this conversation until you get a [ __ ] job. So,

1:39:55 um, and just to circle back, the reason why I had to brought up like what Lisa does for work is because when they were accusing Lisa of leaking the stuff to the media, then Lisa's like, no, I've got too much stuff going on. Okay, I've got like jobs. I've got stuff to do. At which point then the the discussion go just pivots away from that to like, okay, well then let's see the lie in this. They're just just trying to they just always want to debunk Lisa at all times. And the reason why is cuz Lisa is really easy to debunk. It's, you know, she makes it Lisa Lisa like Even if she's telling the truth, even when she is telling the truth, it sounds like she's not because she's she just gets so defensive. I think she did a pretty good job at this reunion of of she did a better job than usual, I think, cuz usually she's just flying off the handle. And this time, I think she kind of had a handle on like at least

1:40:41 answering people's questions kind of uh while she was fighting back. So, um she's like, "Yeah, that was an attack." And um Todd said that about you. So, it shuts Brain up. And then Andy's like, "Well, Heather, we saw a lot of posts on social media saying you were gaslighting Lisa, calling her your friend one minute and then accusing her of being the source and everything the next minute." And she goes, "Yes, but what I was saying is that she is my friend and she is the source. She's my sister and my daughter." So Andy is like, "Okay, well, what do you attribute the shift in your point of view to honor?" It's like, "Look, I'm not friends with people who are perfect. I'm not friends with people that are actually even moral representations of what I aspire to. I'm friends with people who I'm friends with and she's my friend and she's been my friend and we have history. So now Heathers gets to pull out the whole like

1:41:31 essentially I'm a ride or die. That's what this card is essentially saying. Like despite everything she is to me, I'm she still matters to me, right? Like it's you can't attack me. And she goes she's absolutely still my friend. She's not a good friend, but she's an important friend. Which what does that mean? like she's not a good what does it mean to be an important friend but not a good friend? Like it doesn't make any sense.

1:41:51 Heather's a terrible [ __ ] friend. She is a terrible friend. And for her to sit up here and like say what friendship is like, "Oh, she's a horrible friend. I came for all season. I just assume I just um insinuated that her that her business is fake and that everything she does is fault and that she's a criminal. Um but it's because I love her, Andy. I love her and I'm a good friend to people. What are you? You're not a good friend to anybody. You are not a good friend to [ __ ] anybody up there except possibly Whitney cuz she does everything that you say. But everyone else up there, you've completely [ __ ] over. Whatever.

1:42:23 I'm over these false accusations and these labels. I am not the source. I am not the source. So then Angie's like, "Well, Angie, you've known Lisa for a long time. What do you think?" So Angie is like, "Time for the prop." So, she pulls out the scroll that Meredith gave her for her anniversary. And [snorts] she's like, "All right, you asked and I have known Lisa and I thought she was my friend." And then I found out that she was trolling me, or should I say scrolling me. Get it? It's a pun cuz I'm holding a scroll.

1:42:55 Yeah. And it's the scroll that Meredith gave her as a gift for her anniversary. And I love that she's like pulling out the scroll to use as a weapon against Meredith's friend. Dun dun. Yeah. She was trolling me and then um she says she's not the source, but if you open that and you can pass it down and you open your phone, the person trolling me has the same phone number that Lisa has. And Lisa just blinks in that guilty way. She's like, "Um um um oh yeah, what do you want to talk about the pictures you have on your phone then? You want to talk about the pictures you have on your phone?"

1:43:29 And it's a cliffhanger. We'll have to see what's on that scroll. I mean, in the history of big reveals like this on reunions, it turns out like it'll have like the same area code and that's it. And and will be like, "But this is just the same as the Utah area code." But it could be her. You just look call

1:43:47 I believe it's I believe that she totally caught Lisa trolling her like the way they caught Jax when they did like a reverse lookup or whatever on Twitter and found Jax's number trolling people. Yeah, I think that there I think that they'll probably prove that it was Lisa.

1:44:01 That's my guess. that will be quite fascinating. But I'm just saying I'm so used to a lot of these um cliffhanger reveals revealing absolutely nothing. So

1:44:10 also the messiest when it comes to this. I mean you had Angie Harrington who was had all those burners and was trolling people and her husband was the account that was coming for Jen Shawn. We found all that stuff out in that season and which I'm sure Heather had nothing to do with at all. So, I always think this is funny when they come at each other with burner accounts as if they don't all have armies of burner accounts.

1:44:31 Yeah. But, um, still, yeah, I think Lisa's guilty on that one. My guess is Lisa's guilty. But, um, yeah, what a fun time. What a bunch of Looney Tunes this show. My gosh, even the ones that make me crazy. I'm just so happy. Like, Heather makes me [ __ ] crazy at this point, but I'm so happy she's on the show cuz they're so ridiculous. Like, it makes the whole season of Heather worth it just to see that dress,

1:44:52 honestly. Well, she don't I mean, you know, we we get mad at her for producing and I I do get mad at her for producing, but I also think that she's so smart and you know, she she really she does know how to keep it keep it moving, you know.

1:45:07 Well, we can get mad at her with for producing, but then not also thank her for producing a good show cuz we

1:45:12 I know if we're sitting here saying the show is so good and then we're like mad that she's producing. I think it's just, you know what, I think ultimately when people get mad at Heather for producing, it's because she doesn't, she doesn't always kill it. Like, there are times where you're like, what? Stop producing in this moment. Like, let this be an authentic moment. Like, in this in the in the season finale, there was a really nice moment that was happening with Meredith and Heather kind of just took a sledgehammer to it and it just felt like why? Like, can you like just like it doesn't have to be like this, you know?

1:45:41 Yeah. There's one argument that's like, well, someone needs that person who's moving the show along and and gossiping about everybody and being a bad friend to everybody just to keep the the show running. I don't think that that person is needed. I don't think that that's true about housewives. I think that person is a disruptor. And sometimes that can be fun. You know, someone takes a piece of gossip and it becomes a fine. But I don't think housewives need to be built on constant attacks. And I think that that's actually what killed the season, you know, is just them constantly attacking the people that they don't like. get some bad weather and it's just [ __ ] obnoxious. Like, but you've hired a bunch of crazy people. Just let them be crazy. Like, we don't all need Heather needs to have enough confidence in the cast that they can do things themselves without her trying to ruin their lives every season

1:46:23 and then calling herself a good friend. This is the unfortunate trajectory that all these Housewives shows or all reality shows seem to go on, which is that when they find success, you have you have the great seasons, but inevitably people become self-aware of the success and rather than just continuing to be themselves, they just try to replicate what worked in the past because they feel like they know what the audience wants. And then this is where we get into situations like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills where it's just kind of Doulsville. I'm not saying this show is in danger of that, but I also know like Real House as a PTOIC had that dreadful was it season eight. Like even the best shows can have a precipitous plummet if people go from sharing their lives to presenting what they think will be entertaining for us and closing themselves off. They're still pretty raw on this show, but I

1:47:12 feel like Heather is in danger of of poisoning the situation. I think like I think you have to be really really careful. You have to follow the Rooney path which uh it was ultimately like they knew what their job was which was just to be themselves and say [ __ ] it. We're going to throw ourselves into it and let like let's keep any self-p production. Let's like let's just keep that to the side. Let's let's we're flagging it now which means there's time there's still time to do something about it.

1:47:41 Yeah. Um well it's been good so far. I'm excited to see where the rest of the season uh reunions go. And we've got two more of them. So, we'll see you for the next one, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. We'll talk to you next time.

1:47:54 Bye bye.

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Who speaks in "#3162 RHOSLC S617 Reunion 1: Luxe Tag Teams and Lively Lashings"?

Ronnie Karam (Host), Ben Mandelker (Host), Andy Cohen (Guest), Whitney Rose (Guest), Mary Cosby (Guest), Meredith Marks (Guest), Heather Gay (Guest), Lisa Barlow (Guest).

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The recap discusses a RHOSLC Season 6 Part 1 reunion, highlighting luxe tag-team dynamics, lively feuds, and the spectacle of the reunion ambiance. It also mentions upcoming events, rewards like the Golden Krappies 2026, and new ad-free Patreon content.

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