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Married To Medicine S12E05: OctoPurse-y

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Married To Medicine S12E05: OctoPurse-y", an episode of Watch What Crappens published January 12, 2026 (1 h 4 min, about 13,570 words). It mentions 11 people, works and ideas, including Heavenly, Brandy, Contessa, Chelsea Toya, Firdaus Madiar Cc: Carmen.

What this episode is about

In Season 12, Episode 5 of *Married to Medicine*, titled "Baggage Claim," the hosts discuss the ongoing dynamics within the cast, notably highlighting Heavenly's entertaining presence as she confronts Toya over recent conflicts. The episode also marks a transition to a new network and updates on content availability for fans, including ad-free options and bonus material on Patreon.

Key takeaways

  • Toya never changes, but her meltdowns keep us entertained—like a train wreck in slow motion.
  • Heavenly may be a friend, but her shade is the real MVP of this season’s drama.
  • Eugene's sad table moment screams relationship therapy; retail therapy feels less traumatic than Toya's antics.
  • Watching Toya is like a poorly executed magic trick—confusing, chaotic, but you can't look away.
  • Toya's a reality TV paradox: the worse she behaves, the more we’re glued to our screens.

Who speaks in this episode?

  • Ronnie (Host) · 29 min speaking
  • Ben (Guest) · 29 min speaking
  • Heavenly (Guest) · 6 min speaking
  • Toya (Guest) · 6 min speaking
  • Eugene (Guest) · 3 min speaking
  • Brandy (Guest) · 3 min speaking
  • Mimi (Guest) · 3 min speaking
  • Simone (Guest) · 3 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Heavenly
  2. – 20:00: Brandy, Contessa
  3. – 30:00: Firdaus Madiar Cc: Carmen
  4. – 40:00: Simona
  5. – 50:00: Heavenly, Contessa, Brandy
  6. – 1:00:00: Heavenly, Contessa, Brandy
  7. – 1:03:56: Heavenly, Brandy, Contessa

Notable quotes from "Married To Medicine S12E05: OctoPurse-y"

  • Married to Medicine. Me, too. Love this show. I don't want a life without Heavenly. when this season was starting back up and they said Heavenly was only going to be a friend…
    about Heavenly · at
  • Well, Hearts just doesn't really go anywhere. Interesting, you know. so Bry's house. Brandy, one of our new cast members. I really like Brandy a lot. I think she's giving a…
    about Brandy · at
  • This is the second This is the second time in a row that Bry's been called out of nowhere because Contessa called out Brandy when Brandy was being nice to her and now Toya…
    about Contessa · at
  • I'm not familiar. So, now we go to Simone having lunch with her sister Carmen. And Simone's It's always fun when we're together. We haven't had a trip together in a long time, though.
    about Firdaus Madiar Cc: Carmen · at
  • So, when they're once they're gone out truly out of the house, so you got a you got your wife. So then Simona's meanwhile she's like crying and she's because she feels unheard.…
    about Simona · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

Companies & orgs

  • Acast — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

  • Gucci — Product · 2 mentions

Full transcript with timestamps

Welcome to Watch What Happens. To get our videos as soon as they're released instead of waiting for a week, head over to our Patreon. That's also where you'll find our bonus episodes and our Discord community. We love you guys. Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Happens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben.

Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Uh, everybody, welcome to the show. We are here for Married to Medicine. Today is season 12, episode 5, Baggage Claim. You can also find this on video over at Patreon or a week later for free on YouTube. Also, we are with a new network now. We're with Acast. So, hi Acast and thanks for everything Wy, you were great. We loved being with you, but now we're with Acast. So, goodbye. Good luck. And um just for all of you who are wondering where ad free went. We will still be having an ad free option, it will be moving over to Patreon, but it's going to take a while to get 3,000 episodes over. So, give us a minute.

But, um yeah, Adree will still be available over on Patreon at the, you know, the lowest tier. So, uh that'll be there. That's also where you get bonus episodes and it's also where you get these videos every day. Um, so that's what's going on with us. How you doing today Ben?

Doing just great. Happy to be back. Happy to be on the microphone and talking some Marriage Medicine. How about you?

Married to Medicine. Me, too. Love this show. I don't want a life without Heavenly. You know, when this season was starting back up and they said Heavenly was only going to be a friend of I was not happy. I'm still not happy to be honest. Um, but God, she makes me so happy when she's on my screen just dragging Toya. who was quite deserving of dragging, by the way. A lot of times it's Heavenly's fault. This time, no, it's Toya's fault. And I love every Heavenly second I get. I want to move so I can vote for Heavenly.

Yeah, Heavenly is hilarious. And where we left off, they, you know, Toya and Eugene had just had this party where Toya had a meltdown and uh she sort of went at Eugene and said all sorts of

said all sorts of insulting things like be a leader, leave the man cuz she just wanted them to play a party a party game where she was going to humiliate Eugene like who has like who can get into the best shape for going to the Caribbean. So, um, now what's the aftermath of that?

Yeah. She wanted to have a game where she could humiliate Eugene with like a sports thing and hula hoops and then he didn't want to play it, so she humiliated him by screaming at him in front of all their friends and cursing him out. So, it's typical Hoya. It's typical Toya uh to do this. She's done it season after season as we see uh in a clip later today. And uh she's an [ __ ] And I love that she never gets it cuz that's something else that's really good about Toya. Toya never learns. Toya never changes. Toya gets worse. I think with every year she doesn't get better, but it gets more fun to watch.

Yeah. Yeah. She's My favorite thing is the opening credits uh more in the interstitials where you just see Toya standing with the group like hunched over like a dent in my car door. That's that's the look in her face. She's like, "Who was wrong with crayons on the dining room table?"

Avery, did you leave this milk out here? Like she's just ready to scold us. She's trying to be sexy and like and be like, "Ooh, me." And there's like one shot where like when you know when they're like doing going to a Toya scene, they have like a close-up on her face like Toya. And she just is like trying to serve a look and it's just not working. And it actually really reminds me of season two of Top Chef or season 3 of Top Chef. This was like the origin of our Gail and Padma joke because in the promos for that season of Top Chef, they would show Gail Simmons and they had like a it was like a wind machine in her hair and she was like trying to like look at the camera like I'm Gail Simmons. Top Chef is coming back. But then Padma would come on be like, "Hi, I'm Padma Lakshmi. I'm a supermodel looking for a girl." She's trying to serve sort of see you and you know what the rest of that is and she just can't

do it. Too bad. And that's like what toy toy Toya is serving Gail Simmons. Yeah. [snorts] Um and it's hilarious. It's it's menacing. I will say it's it's a it's a bizarre choice that they went with on this opening.

So Ugene has set up pool down in the basement. He's just like waiting at this sad little table and he calls her down and she's like, "Why are you sitting at this table?" And he's just at the sad table like uh family meeting. He looks like he looks like he's at the part where he's already test driven his the the Honda and now he's ready to sign some paperwork as they've put him at a table and they're going to make him wait a little bit before someone comes and helps him. Like he's ready he's ready to to decide what he's going to add on to his model, his like his CRV.

I actually just went through that experience uh getting my niece a car. My niece needed a car, so we were getting her a car. And man, they are so nice to you when when you're on that lot. And the second they sit you down at that table, they just start they bend you over and they just start pounding you

every single, oh, by the way, the interest rates are 10%. Get the [ __ ] out of here. I just spent six hours here, sir. You waited until 6 hours later to tell me this.

And they have that tech. They do. I I swear to God, I think it's purely just some sort of negotiating um lever that they pull. I don't think they ever have to do this. They'll be like, "Oh, so wait. You said you want air conditioning in your car. Hold on one second." And they leave you with a little circular table for 25 minutes. And then they come back like, "Uh, yeah, looks like we can add air conditioning to your car." I'm like, "We I know you can add air conditioning. You just let me sit here at the table for a long time. It's like some sort of tactic to let you sit at that table for hours and hours and hours."

Yeah, we were we wanted the car for like 4,000 less. Well, you know, whatever. We did the the numbers and all that. We're like, "We can get this car for 4,000 less somewhere else." And so they were like, "Okay, okay, we can do that. Are you sure you can do that?" "Yeah, we can do it." So we sit down at the table and of course the the little guy comes up. It's the same price. And I said, "This is not the the price." And he said, "Oh, well, you see, normally what we do is when we sell you a Toyota of Round Rock, by the way, is who I'm talking about, you dumb asses. when we uh actually sell you the car, we charge you $4,000 um above this for all this stuff like a coating on your car and a tinting on your car, this other $4,000 package, which we didn't order anyway. But they said, "We charge you this on top of the car, but we won't put that stuff on, so we'll leave that off." I was like, "Okay, so you're going to give us a

bunch of stuff that we didn't ask for, but you're still not going to give it to us, but you're not going to charge us for the stuff we didn't ask for and keep the car the same price. Goodbye. goodbye. And they're like, "Well, is there anything we can do?" And I was like, "Yeah, you could tell me what you told me six hours ago instead of making me sit here like an idiot. I would rather drive across town than ever do this with you again." And they're still texting me like, "Oh, you're coming back." No, I'm not coming back, you jackasses. You You're tinting. Get the [ __ ] out of here.

That's crazy. That's crazy. So, yeah. The point is Eugene is having a family meeting with Toya at the pool in the pool room. So, they're going to play pool and he's like, "I was making margaritas to make up for yesterday. You might notice I have two margarita machines. Sure, we just need one, but who cares? We'll make you some margaritas

without actually any like margarita glasses. [clears throat] Uh well, actually, no, he's got tumblers, so that's okay. But um so so she

that you're ready to you're ready to bring them down for their glass choice. Well, because they have a whole little scene with their glasses. They they seem like they don't they don't know what to do, right? Like they sort of like they've never made margaritas before, it seems like. even though they just did in the last episode outside but they look they have like a debate over what sort of glass it should go into and it's actually hilarious because you know Toya's like what about a what about a mason jar mason jar he's like well what about a [ __ ] let's do a cocktail glass she's in a cocktail glass like she's never had a margarita in a cocktail glass she's like toya's horrified she thinks it's the craziest thing she's ever heard so anyway uh you're doing

you know what they need on this channel is they need a hookup with decent pin colada machines or margarita mach frozen drink machines because they just suck on this show on this channel. We just saw it on Southern Charm. They couldn't make him on this this one. It was all watery as well. I mean, come on. Somebody's got to step into this market and make it work.

Like slime. Yeah. So, um, Eugene's telling us that he doesn't like having conflict. He likes to resolve things quickly. And she's like, "Well, I actually handle things. I handle things head-on. And if I see what if I see that they're going in a certain way," he's like, "Yeah, like a collision." She's like, "Yes, exactly. Absolutely."

[gasps] He's like, "Okay, well, I'm starting, you know, I started to think, what did I do wrong?" It's just, "No, no, cuz usually then like it like if something else happens, like he'll put it right on top of that and then he blows up." And he's like, "I think you're projecting." Cuz Eugene did not blow up ever. We've never seen Eugene blow up. Tori, you blew up.

So he's like, "Okay, let's get the living heavy lifting out of the way where I apologize uh for doing nothing wrong and then you nod and accept it." He's like, "So, one, I've been doing a lot of thinking, and I want to say I'm sorry. I uh misjudged what the party meant for you, but I do feel like you need to take a little ownership with what you said in front of people who we don't even feel safe around because there were a lot of emasculating jokes. Don't Okay, the emasculating joke was about your penis size, and that comes from Toya complaining about your penis size to all the ladies. So, why are you blaming Heavenly? Toya did that."

Yeah. And Tory was like, "Well, at that party it was like you looked at me like I was one of them." And I'm like, "When did I become just one of them?" Because I said to be be a leader. Lead the man. Be be that person. Be be a wonderful leader in history. I should be able to use words like leader. He's like, "Um, yeah, you didn't really say it like that. The way you said it was helpful." He's like, "Yeah." [clears throat] He's like, "Okay, here's what I own. I played too much. I should have left you alone because I do know that you need to have some space. I I shouldn't have I shouldn't have cursed. I shouldn't have let your friends get in my head because I don't like it when they talk about me.

I shouldn't have been upset when your friend said I had small dick and then I shouldn't have been upset when you wanted to further emasculate me by u making me do a hula hoop thing uh and then take off my shirt. Um I shouldn't have been upset by those things. So now what did you do? She's like, uh, [clears throat]

thank you for your ability. I'm sorry for throwing a really good party that you ruined. Uh, I'm

Yeah, I don't really know what else from there. Yeah, I like that. She just goes, "Thank you for your apology." She goes, "Okay, well, what did I Okay, I was being pushy. Um, uh, what I did second, uh, I shouldn't respond when people pull me into a negative scenario." No, you are the negative scenario. What are you talking about? No one did this to you. You did this. And she's ba basically blaming him. She's like, I forgive I forgive myself for letting myself be negative because you made me.

Mhm. Yeah. So, she's like, uh, I definitely could be better at feeding you more words of afflation because I do it for the boys and I take it for granted that sometimes, you know, like, you know, you're working really hard and like, um, I guess, uh, it's nice that I can depend on you. She like sort of had I think she went to chat GPT and was like what should I say to Eugene right now? It's like one thing you could do that's a great question. One thing you could do is you could say thank you for supporting me. I really do appreciate you and I sometimes forget to appreciate you. Okay great that's what I'll do.

She's like even though you all got a lot he's like okay you can leave that part out. Well I I use chat u so sorry. He's like she's like but man you know it's nice that I could depend on you. And he goes, "Okay." And do you appreciate pool? And she's like, "Yeah, but I would like it if we could play spades more." And he's like, "No, because you know, every time I play spades, it turns into a fight." And she's like, "Honey, that's what all black people do."

And they laugh. Like like, so now we go to Bry's house and she is giving If it helps, I've never played a game of spades that hasn't turned into a fight either. Maybe it's the game. I don't know. It's an evil game. Hearts also sucks. So that's also is just

Well, Hearts just doesn't really go anywhere. Interesting, you know. Um, so Bry's house. Brandy, one of our new cast members. I really like Brandy a lot. I think she's giving a good Greek chorus energy. Um, so she's giving pizza to her to her kids and everything. And Angel and Mimi come over. It's sort of like a newbie scene. So um, uh, Brandy, you know, the kids are all there and Brandy's like, "You know, you you know, you could have brought Stevie." And Mimi's like, "Yeah, I'm not going to do that to you." Okay. Like my baby, he's kind of he's like broken TVs at people's houses. And they're like, "Oh, yeah."

And so Mimi is just saying like there's lots of twists and turns when parenting a child with special needs. And Stevie were here, I would have to have one eye over there and one eye on him. And she's basically like, "Yeah, this is we're going to leave them at home in this case."

Yeah. And they're talking about how long they've been married. Both about 10 years. And Brandy says, uh, it's been 10 years for her. And she's like, and you know, we miss out on all the gossip. Like, I need to know what's going on on the streets, so you guys need to tell me. And, uh, they start laughing. And she's like, I mean, I could be at least be entertained, you know, cuz I have single friends. And I'm like, what? That's a thing. Which is true. I'm single and I still hear from single friends. And I'm like, what the [ __ ] You did what with your wear, huh?

Yeah. What does this app do again? This app locates you in whatever bath you like what what [gasps]

Angel's they basically are like all eyes on Angel the resident single girl of this group right now and they're like so Angel what's it like out there what's happening do you want to date someone do you want to date what you tell us all about them show us pictures do you want to swipe let's do some swiping so Angel's like you know my my life is just it's just so wrapped up into working and taking care of kids but like I do want to date I would love to I just I would love to find an amazing man that could just come in and ignite my softness, which that's kind of a funny turn of phrase.

Ignite my softness. Ignite my soft. I just want someone to come in here all exciting and full of energy to make me soft. Okay, sure.

But Angel's um Angel's kids are named Okay. She's Angel and I forget what their

what I forget their names, but it's like Angel Worship and Church or something. It's like heaven worship and Bible.

Okay. Heaven daughter named heaven. So angel in heaven. It's a little worship or something.

It's also a little wings. It's like my children pearly gates and psalms. Are we playing pyramid with our children right now? Okay. Angel heaven. Um um um um um um. Okay. We uh I have a new I have a son named Pearly and I also have a dog named Gates. Come on. Um um um um um. Is it

I have a stepchild named Satan. He is named Satan. Okay. Uh uh. Is it purgatory? Yes, that is correct. That is correct.

Okay. What's the next round? This is my niece. You better pray. Okay. Like what's the next round? It's like there there's another round. I mean I our names are permanent. Yeah. Yeah. We're we're doing more than one round of of pyramid angel, right? You do have more children for this game, right?

I don't. So, she says that um being a single mother doesn't come with a manual. I like when people say that.

I love that it's not easy being a parent. It doesn't come with a manual. Well, neither does being a kid, okay? Nothing comes with a manual. There's I don't know, read some books.

Let me tell you something. There's plenty of manuals for being a parent anyway. There are manuals, actually, now that I think about it. There's like love your kid harder or whatever they're called like tough love or um

have you read some of the manuals lately that are are coming in with some products?

The manuals are not helpful. Yeah, it's just it comes with an L. Your kid comes with an L wrench and something called the flity jurg.

Yeah, exactly. There's some there's some arrows and then there's some broken English and you just have to just do the best that you can. Okay, we're all in the non-manual land at this point. Oh, here's our children's name. So, Heaven's Dad played professional basketball and Savior's dad, we were engaged. I think Savior is just a lot to live up to. I wonder I wonder if they're religious.

Also, Savior just keeps disappearing. They're like, "Oh my god, when is Savior going to return?"

Well, we just want him to work at Complex magazine just for the pun of it all. That's really it. So, she is the mom and the dad. And so, uh Brandy

I know all about the cliché. She really is. She's like, "Being a mom doesn't come with a manual. I'm basically the mom and the dad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. I'm not going to cry over spilled milk. I wish there was a lot in my household. Two, two in a hand are better than two in a bush. Am I right, Savior?" So, Bry's like, "What's the most important thing you're looking for a man? His wiener? His brain?" and she's like, "No, none of that. I don't need an anaconda. I don't need that." So, they're asking about the last person she dated. And she's like, "I mean, it was weird." And they're like, "You're in a safe space.

You're actually with two medical providers." That's so condescending cuz she's Angel's a registered nurse. They're like, "You're with two people who have actual advanced degrees. We're we're bad. You're with doctors, not nurses right now, Angel. You get to be with the You get to sit at the at the with the big dogs."

Yeah. I've been I've been in I've been in some conversations with some medical providers lately and it seems great when you're in the office and then you get the bill where nothing is covered and everything's $90,000. Okay. No, I don't trust you. Yeah. Well, also what's so funny is that like Angel is being elusive about what she wants and they're like, "Come on, you're Come on, you're in a safe place. You can tell us." And Mimi's like, "We can read between the lines." And Angel's like, "Yeah, everyone's this is a safe place. This is a safe place. Tell us." And then this teeters into just gossip about the other women. I was like, "Wait, we didn't get to find out what Angel wants in a man."

So, she won't say. They're like, "Why are you deflecting?" Because she doesn't want to put all this business out on TV yet. She's not ready, I think. And she's like,

she was a friend of Yeah. She's like, "I'm not doing that. I'm not being paid enough for this. I'm getting $5 a day to be on the show." So,

no. Yeah. So, uh they're like, "Yeah, this is a safe place unlike the rest of the group. D. So they're like and they're like, "Is anyone Is like who's safe to talk to? No one's safe to to talk to." I don't know why I said to talk to to talk to. So Mimi is like, "Yeah, at Toya and Eugene's house warming. There was some deflecting and they called you out." And Bry's like, "Yeah, I know. I was caught off guard." Like, why was I called out? This is the second This is the second time in a row that Bry's been called out out of nowhere because Contessa called out Brandy when Brandy was being nice to her and now Toya called out Brandy. I feel like Bry's so nice and they just keep on like going to going for her.

I think just cuz they're new so they're like well let's yell at the new people too so that they can feel like they're included. I think it's almost being nice like let's just yell at this rando. We'll give them a shot, you know, but it never really works. Uh, so they're talking about this whole big thing and they don't know why they were called out. And Mimi is saying, "You know, you you can tell when someone's trying to poke and poke and the owner of the house said she was going to kick out some hate ass [ __ ] but I'm not a hate ass bitch." And that was nighttime Mimi.

I forgot about nighttime mimi. Nighttime mimi. Mimi after dark. So Angel's like Angel's like, "Well, she felt like somebody was hating or somebody said some things that will affect her marriage." Mimi's like, "Well, if that's the case, that is imaginary." I mean, Siri, please play Drew Sedora. Uh, Dulu, every Dulu, everyone. Anyone? No.

How much did you get paid to say that? That was crazy to hear that song brought up randomly. I liked it. I was proud of Drew.

I actually thought that was funny. And I was proud of Drew. And um uh it was it was nice for for everyone to laugh and be like, "Who's that?" So, it was nice to hear everybody Siri across the country go.

Yeah. I'm not familiar. So, now we go to Simone having lunch with her sister Carmen. And Simone's like, "It's always fun when we're together. We haven't had a trip together in a long time, though." And apparently they um had a trip in January, which I'm going to say is not a long time. I don't know when this was filmed, but I'm going to say if it was within the calendar year, it's not a long time.

Um, it's never a long time from January. I don't know. I'm taking a stance on this. I'm like, guys,

Simone says it's been a long time since they've had a trip. I think they've had a trip.

Simone is lying. Simone's a liar. Someone Hey Siri, please play Dulu by Drew Sedora.

Talk about Dulu with her time frames. So, she talks about her sister Carmen being her best friend, etc. blahy blah. And um I wish Carmen was on the show more. I like Carmen a lot.

She was awesome. Why are we like I don't know. It's weird. It's weird that we're just meeting Carmen and she's like I tell Carmen world is Carmen.

Where in the world is Carmen? San Diego maybe. I tell Carmen everything. what I'm wearing, what I ate for lunch, and especially when Cecil is getting on my nerves. So, they're talking about Cecil and she's crying and um she's like, "They're never Cecil's never on my side, which it's a great point." And Cecil better watch his ass because does I'm I'm going to ask this every week. I know I've asked this every week since the beginning of time. Does Cecil work? I don't think so.

I don't know. Cecil better get it together. Otherwise, he can go from Cecil to Saucil. Okay, let's get this to you. Also, one thing that we never

see. See you soul. That's better than saw soul. Um, but uh one thing we never brought up, but someone in social media did a few weeks ago is that when those kids made that dinner before they tried to ask for a new car and everything, what was so funny is that they had gotten takeout and they had put the takeout into like disposable pans and heated it up. Someone pointed out that when they poured the stuff out of the pans, the pans still had like the labels on them. They put the food in the oven on disposable pans that still have the the plastic labels in the oven.

And you guys want And you guys want a free car when you can't even take the plastic label off of your metal disposable pan. Come on now. Come on.

Yeah, but also like do we blame Simone for this? Like there are some things that I'm like your kid just fed you plastic.

That's a fault. Like whose fault is like it's got to at some point we have to like blame the parents. You know what I mean? I know you can't blame the parent for every little thing. God knows my parents don't deserve every,

you know, the blame for every crime I've ever committed, but some of them they do. And I I would like to think like if I put a fork in the microwave or something like that, they would be blamed.

Sometimes it's okay to to criminalize parents is what I'm saying. I think this is I'm gonna I'm gonna give this one to Cecil because I think Simone is off.

You know, Simone's busy. You're right. Yeah, Simone's busy and Cecil is like allegedly had a startup for like, you know, hiring kids to do chores. So, like he's literally in the space of overseeing children being responsible. And so, like, it's on him to teach the kids to take the plastic off of your metal tins before you

But maybe he wanted to have that business where kids had to work because he couldn't get his own kids to do chores. So, he wanted to hire neighborhood kids to do the chores because his kids wouldn't do them.

God, it's all making so much sense. I'm really upset about this. I'm really upset about this pasta thing.

So Carmen, so basically venting about Cecil, etc. And she says, uh, Simone's saying, um, that, uh, like the this all happened and, you know, the whole fight and everything and how, um, how Cecil was very quiet. Um, and basically, uh, we cross cut this scene with Cecil's brother, David, going down to Cecil's basement bar and Cecil's talking, you know, David just has gotten divorced and he's moved to Atlanta. And, uh, first they start talking about the divorce and everything and Cecil then starts saying, "See, a lot of times you and Simone and I, we're not even in the picture." And David's like, "Yeah, you know, Simone, that's my sister and I mean, we've known each other since the 90s and like that's not an in-law, okay? She's and she called me and she was hurting. And when you see your wife upset, the first thing you do is create a united front with your wife because at the end of the day,

we know this for a fact. When these kids move on, they're gone. But the person that's going to be by your side is your wife. He's basically saying, "You [ __ ] up.

You [ __ ] up." Well, he's also saying, "I just got divorced, so do do you want to do what I did?" Okay, then support your wife. And Cecil's just like, "No, I'm sitting here drinking free liquor in the basement bar she bought me." So, yep. No, I do not want to support her. And Cecil's getting on my last [ __ ] nerve. And especially in this next clip where we get back to Cecil and he starts screaming and yelling about it when we've never seen this kind of energy out of Cecil ever

until this. And it's like, you don't make that money, sir. That money comes from her. So, please stop saying we we and R. That is her money. You don't do anything. Your kids app is a failure. Okay. What have you sold? What have you sold in real estate? Tell me. I don't believe you have a job and you don't get to be making decisions like this and not supporting your wife. Yeah. The only reason why Cecil is getting any sort of grace from me is because I just love saying the name Cecil. God, it's so fun. Cecil, what? Like Cecil is like is probably like a top 1% fun name to say, right? Cecil.

Well, isn't it like a cute mouse from a cartoon? I think he needs to keep that energy.

I feel like Cecil the mouse would be supportive. Here are the names. Here are two names that will give me that will like automatically get like a little bit of grace for me for no good reason, which is Cecil and Chanty. I love those names. Those are just adorable.

Yeah, I love Chanty is like h I love I love I love a chanty. I love I have a friend named Chanty and I think I'd like him. I think a good portion of reason why I like him is just cuz his name is Chanty

and because he brings you alcohol while you're sitting in your drawing room. I mean, what is he your butler? I've never known a real person named Chanty. I thought that was like a butler name. And one of our listeners went to college with him. She came up to me in Cincinnati and was like, "I went to school with Chanty." And I was like, "You know Chanty?

Did he bring around her car often?" Excuse me. Chanty was Chon. That Chanty is is for RIP Chanty on on Southern Charm.

Yes, he was pre Chon. He was pre that Chanty. Yeah. And post. You see, he's got life. There's Chanty Phillips, the basketball player, was just arrested as part of a giant like gambling ring thing. And I was like, that's terrible that he participated, but his name is Chanty, so I think you should let him go.

Chanty. Chanty Phillips. Okay, I know. I wonder if we ran numbers like how many people in prison are even named Chanty? Probably none. I feel like that's a pretty scot-free name. You know, you get off with an adorable.

Yeah, people just want you to serve. It's like a serving name. So, uh, we got back to Simone and she's talking about how, um, her husband, Cecil, was raised in a very ironfisted home. His dad was really strict, and now he's going the opposite way and raising his kids where he's like the sweet one, the the fun one, and the nurturing one. And Simone now has to be Papa Whitmore. And so, um, Carmen, the sister, is like, well, you know, people of his generation, they overcompensate for what they didn't get from their fathers. and they didn't get the affection. So now he's overcompensating. So you know, you have to agree on the limit. And she's like, "But we can't agree on limits if he has no limit." What are you looking at?

Tesla's to buy my son. I know. Which is where this all winds up going, by the way, for people who have not paid attention. So back to Cecil. And he's like, "Look, okay, here's the beauty. Here's the blessing from God. our parents worked their hands to the bone so we wouldn't be in the same situation as them so we would have more money so that our boys don't have to stand in the financial aid line like I stood for 3 hours at Morehouse to get to get you know mine. Okay. And when I came up I said you know what my boys are never going to stand in the line for financial aid because that is something I'm going to make sure of because that's the way it's supposed to be. We're supposed to be moving as black people.

We get so caught up that we struggled and we struggled. So we so we all have to struggle all the time because we we're going to be struggling forever. He's basically like look we're trying to get gener generational wealth and we need to like use it. And I think I mean I think that like there is a point to that right like you you work hard so that way the generation under you can be better and better and better. But also there's something I believe that like the younger generation has to kind of show up too. So, like if you've got a kid who's just like, "Buy me a new car."

That's different from saying like, "I put in a lot of work. I've been like a good student. I've been I've been working really hard. Try to better myself." And then, you know, the parent says, "I'm going to help you along the way." But if you have kids that are just relying on that, I think that's what Simone is like, "No, no, no, no. I there's difference between trying to support your kids versus enabling spoiled brats." And I'm not saying these kids are spoiled brats necessarily.

He was acting like a spoiled brat in the last episode, for sure. They are definitely acting a bit entitled and Simone's like uh-uh I'm not going to do that. I think it's great. I think it's great when parents can can pay it forward to those generations. And I totally get why what Cecil is saying. But the truth was ultimately Simone was like, "Uhuh, I don't like this." And Cecil should have been backing up his wife in that instance. Even if he disagreed with her, they could talk about it later and say, "Look, your mom and I were talking and we decided that blah blah blah blah blah." But right in that moment, you've got to support Simone Cecil.

Yeah. And I agree with what you're saying, like generational wealth and all that. And I can I can see what he's saying as far as that being important and it's something new to him that he's glad to bestow upon his children and all that. But that doesn't mean giving your kids everything and making them do nothing. That's [ __ ] It means like helping them when you can and teaching them to be responsible adults. I mean, we see so many kids in this world who are given everything and who turn into [ __ ] [ __ ] you know?

Mhm. I mean, we're in LA. We're surrounded by these people, you know? They're [ __ ] They're horrible people. And nobody likes them, okay? Nobody real likes these people. Like, you have to, you know, you have to teach your kids how to work for what they get in addition to like them having the benefits of getting help. And you know, Cecil does this whole monologue and says like, "I don't want them waiting in the financial aid line and stuff like this." Okay, I get that. But he's making it sound It's first of all, it's not necessarily like that from what I I mean, applying for scholarships and stuff like that.

Graduate school is different than college. I'm sorry. He's just a little too lit up over this for someone who's not paying for it. And that's the end of the day for me. Like that's what it is for me at the end of the day. It's like, sir, she is the one out making all this money double cuz she's the star of the show, too. Or a star of the show.

I would. And she's working her ass off. And it's not like you're doing all this stay-at-home dad stuff. You built yourself a bar, sir. You know what I mean? Like, she's doing it. You don't get to just go spend this money. And I know when you're married, it's both of your money, but not to this degree. I I'm gonna say let's just taking out the idea like oh she brings in all the money because I think if if it were reversed I would hate it if like the wife doesn't get a say just because like like a stay at home mom who's

wait just to amend it just to amend it though because in that situation a lot of times the wife is the stay-at-home mom and she's doing all the caretaking which is another job that's like a totally different thing. Cecil doesn't do that. Cecil's not sitting at home making their lunches doing car pools and all of that [ __ ] Those boys are away. They're at school. Cecil's not doing anything and Simone's still out there working her ass off. So that's why I think it's different.

I think what's more offensive is that he's more he's fired up about this and I feel like he should have shown some energy to be like don't talk to your mom that way. Not that the kids really sass off to her.

He did he did do he did sass after her. She said, "What do you what are your plans to do this?" And he said, "Well, my mom makes money. I hear my mom's pretty rich." Like um

you're lucky I don't have a fly swatter. Yeah. Also, the thing is this, what I was going to say before a little bit was that like, you know, paying for your kids's college is one thing, but you know, graduate school, I think, you know, if a parent can help with something and and and they want to, I think it's great. I actually would I would never, you know, I I think it's it's really it's wonderful when when a parent can support their kid if they choose to. But I think that with graduate school, it's like there's a there's a different cadence to that.

Like there are a lot of people who go to work after college and they get experience and they they earn money or whatever and then they they do put themselves through graduate school. It's a little different than college. If a parent says, "Hey, I want to help you. You want to further yourself in your career. I want to help." That's great, too. But I don't think it's I don't think it's quite the same as college. I think there college I mean it's a big ask to but it is something that people do which is that like at 18 you pay for your own college. It's definitely something to do but it's a big ask. So, like there are a lot of parents that will help out their kids, but I think graduate school, you know, you're sort of like stepped into adulthood now,

but I think this whole thing wasn't even really about if it's graduate or college. It was the it was the tone of the conversation when he said she's saying, "Well, we need to start thinking about your schooling and what are you doing?" And he's just like, "Oh, well, you're going to pay for it." Like his whole attitude. I think if [clears throat] she said, "Okay, what are your plans in order to get this car? What are your plans in order to go to this college?" and he said, "Well, I want to work, but it's going to be hard for me to work full-time and pay for the do all of this. I might need help." Then she would have said, "I would be glad to help you if you're working." Right?

That's where the conversation would go. She's not saying she doesn't want to support the kids. I mean, she bought them an apartment. She's given them all this stuff. It's not like she doesn't give them anything. So, the whole fight started because he smarted off to her and Cecil didn't stand up for him and is now acting like she should just pay for everything. And it's just like she's feeling taken advantage of. It's like I work my ass off. These people aren't even grateful and then they turn me into the [ __ ] when they don't get every single thing that they want.

The first thing he asked for was actually a new Jeep. He was like, I had a Jeep and it was cool, but now it's not so cool anymore. Three and a half, four years. So, his priority was his Jeep. It was not the law school. It's almost like he looped into law school to sort of

almost seem like he had some responsible aspirations. And maybe he does, but again, these situations are also very subjective. They're a case- by case basis. And you do have to look at the fact that they got him an apartment. They did this firm, they did this as well as the older brother. And that they've done it's it's actually been a lot. They've used up a lot of capital and not just cash. It's like, you know, they And so I I think at this point Simone's like, you just asked for a car and now you're going to tack on law school. It's like at some point it's like it can't just be about asking for things. You got to go out into the world and start earning your keep. And like I and the fact that Cecil just sat there while she what she's getting really upset and he's not even saying listen you guys better apologize to your mother or you guys are being you know you guys are being really entitled because

everything that Cecil said isn't necessarily wrong but has nothing to do with the way that the entitlement that the kids were showing in that moment.

Right. Yeah. So, um, Cecil's going on and how his dad was so rough and he's promised his kids are never going to have to struggle and his brother says, "Yeah, but we grew up in the same." By the way, isn't it funny that he talks exactly like Cecil speak? Yeah, they Yeah. So, he's like, "We grew up in the same house. I get it, but you're not, you know, you're not catching this. Like, your wife is amazing and you can't discount her." And he's like, you know, you you're saying I I I I and we've got the money, but you you know, your kids are going to be all right, but you're going to be stuck with your wife. That's the one who's your partner.

Mhm. So, shut up. Yeah. Exactly. It's like it's And again, it's not like they graduated college, like the financial aid, like they're fine. They will figure out a way to make this work. So, when they're once they're gone out truly out of the house, so you got a you got your wife. So then uh Simona's meanwhile she's like crying and she's because she feels unheard. She feels unconsidered and it's really really hard and she's at her breaking point and she's exhausted. She's tired and it's like too much for her and so her sister is consoling her. It's like a really it was a really good scene actually. So now we go to Quad and she's packing while King is watching her and she's like King are you packed already? And he's like the thing that that doesn't look like you're going for medical purposes. It looks like you're going for a party. Oh, why you wearing Gucci to the hospital?

She's like, "Oh, King, this little twopiece is a comfortable little two-piece." But it's Gucci. Bring Gucci to the hospital. That is what I've got. King, you wear Gucci to the hospital? Yeah, shut up. Who do you think you're with? She wears Gucci to go get the [ __ ] groceries in the morning. Of course, she's going to wear Gucci to the hospital. Who do you think you're marrying, sir? I'm sick of I'm sick of King's smart ass over there. Okay. And especially after this scene. So Quad's like, "King and I are headed to Ghana for our third round of egg retrievalss."

And so they she talks about how the ladies had this supportive party for her, which there was no fights at, which is why they didn't show it. So we see a clip from that and they're all lying around on pool floaties and um Jackie's like, "This is where we support our new mother of the group and hope that something enters her vagina and gives her a child or whatever." And then Quad just jumps on her sobbing. She's like, [groaning] she's full sobbing. You know, she's probably so mad that that whole scene got cut. So King is like, "So what happens if we don't get the results that we're looking for on this trip?" Well, I'm praying this is our last time. But I mean, we're going to be hopeful, but we got to be practical at the same time.

Practical? What am I not being practical about? You told me you don't mind. You just said all we do is have to do is make more money. you said you didn't mind. So, what's happening? He's like, "It's been non-stop, though. Like, I have to go with you." Like, come on. She's like, "But we did it. We knew we were going to have to go through this struggle." He's like, "No, we thought it was going to be one and done." Okay. Really? So, you're mad at having to spend all this money and time on IVF. That's not how it works. IVF takes forever sometimes. Like,

but I don't like his impatience. Or is it the trips to Ghana? Is is it Or is he like, "I thought we only had to go to Ghana once." and he's like this, we're going on our third trip to Ghana.

Maybe. I mean, there are doctors that aren't in Ghana that, you know, there might be a more practical way to do this. I don't know. Maybe she got like some Instagram deal where it's like the doctor in Ghana offered, so she's going to get those discounts or whatever. I don't know. It's housewives, so you never know.

Just a shame that they don't know any OBGYNS in this group, you know? Yeah. Right. I just feel like he if he's he's not coming off as that supportive even though she's trying to convince us that he is very supportive but his whole like well maybe we should just accept it that we're not it's not going to work. It's like no and if you think this is a pain in the ass wait till you get the kids.

Well he had that's harder. Yeah. Yeah. Well the thing is he actually knows because he has a daughter. So I is like, "Babe, I don't want to come across like I'm forcing you to do something." But ever since day one when you said, "This is a dream of mine. This is what I would do. I would like to become a mom just being by my side and supporting me through all of this." Like you stopped your job and I recognize the sacrifices that you made for me. Sometimes I don't. I'm not the best with my attitude and you just I'm telling you I'm owning that. He's like you're owning it and just like laughs and she's like, "Yes, no one else can own my shit." I don't think anyone else wants to own that [ __ ] Ha ha ha.

And she's like, I don't want you to think I don't see what you're doing for me. Okay. I don't know. I'm getting bad bad vibes from this guy. Like I like I like that she's with a hot guy and she seems very happy, but [clears throat]

yeah, I'm bothered. I'm bothered. There's a lot of warning signs about him that it's like, you know, I get a smart ass. I love a smart obviously I am a smartass,

but it's rubbing me the wrong way. I agree. I think that some of his jokes I I don't I've just never been comfortable with with people who make jokes at the expense of their partners. I just feel like it's I feel like it's a slippery slope. It might start off as like funny like banter, but I feel like I've seen it across the board in all relationships and on TV, which is where relationships are the purists always go downhill to going from like funny banter slowly to like barbs to toxicity. So, I get a little like I don't love that either. That being said, I do if I if if he is sort of like in a veiled way talking about like uh all these trips to Ghana, um these are a little this is a little impractical. If that's sort of what he's talking about, then I can kind of understand. But if he's talking about like and I also understand like let's not get overly consumed with this. If it's not meant to be, it's not meant to

be. I understand that as well. But um if he's just kind of like, well, we tried it once, it didn't work. Oh well, moving on. I don't like that.

Yeah. I guess I think what's rubbing me the wrong way is that if he's felt this way, why is he waiting until they're on camera to say something to her? Because she seems genuinely shocked when he says, "Aren't we done? Like, how many how much more of this are we going to do?" And she's like, "But you knew we were going to have to do more." And he's like "No

I thought it was a one-off." It's like, I don't know. It's like he's too comfortable kind of cutting her down on camera already, you know? I just don't like it. Like the little comments then doing this and then her apologizing all the time like, "Well, I'm I've apologized for my attitude." It's like there's just a lot adding up that's making me not really like him.

Yeah. had to know it was not just a oneoff because he did all that research on the last episode where he's like

I know one at one minute you're an expert on vaginas and now you're confused that IVF takes more than one shot sometimes.

Yeah. So if he's if he's saying I thought it was a one-off on IVF. I'm like sir. But if he says I thought it was a one-off on going to Ghana, I'm like I can kind of get it.

Yeah. So then we go over to Simone. It's a ladies event. Build a bag. We're going to build our own bags. So Toya arrives and Simone's like, "We have so much tension in this group." So it started because Heavenly left her bag at Bry's dinner and Toya called it fake. And then Heavenly forgot to take the bag again from Toya's house. And she's like, "If we can't be shady about a bag, what are we doing?"

So Toya's like, "Well, we don't even understand why our friends have to carry fake bags." And there's this um woman named Jackie who's like, "Well, we're going to make some real ones with some real leather today." Because she's like a she's like a bag lady. Not like a bag lady, but she's like a bag a lady who makes bags and has events where people make their own little floppy bags with fur trim. And so so Toya's like, "Yeah, I'm like, "Well, if you ain't got it, just don't do it. It ain't even that deep."

I mean, says Toya, who's had a new house, a new rental every single year. Come on now.

Yeah. I mean, come on. Come on, Tori. Come on. And there's a new story today that she's even looking for a new house again. So, come on. So, Tori is like, "Well, I mean, I could have He's feeling that bad by just by calling a bag fake, but you know, like it's not like anybody thought it was real. You think that people think Heavenly's walking around the Jimmy Jewels and Balenciaga bags and Gucci and Fendy dresses? No. We always think it's fake." Yeah, but here's the thing. We always think yours are fake, too. Because who in their right mind would spend that much money on shitty clothes just because they have a a circle that says Gucci or Chanel on it?

I mean, you look like a dumbass. So, if yours isn't fake, you're actually the dumbest one on the show because that's crazy to be spending that kind of money on stupid [ __ ]

Yeah. So, uh Mimi and Heavenly are driving there and Heavenly is driving very fast and Mimi is like, "Slow down. Slow down." Um, and Heavenly's like, "So, it's, you know, uh, she said,

no, Heavenly's in her nice girl voice." She's like, "I got you, girl. Don't worry about it, girl. I got a girl. Now, see how I hug that curve. Now, you saw that. Now, how we doing, girl? How we doing, girl?"

That's my favorite heavenly voice. Yeah. So, Mimi's like, she's like, "Well, speaking. Okay. Well, let's talk about this group chat." She goes, "Oh, yeah, that's group chat." Well, all I said honestly was that we were telling each other happy Father's Day and Toy Doya said she loved her husband and she was appreciative of him. And she's like, "Uh, well, Toya says, "So thankful for Eugene and my fathers and I'm so blessed and so are my sons and please wish your fathers and husbands an amazing Father's Day." Yeah, it was very, very sweet and very sweet. And you said, "Make sure to tell him that, Toya."

[gasps] Well, you don't know the history, though. You don't know the history why I said that. And she says that the history is that Toya is always disrespecting her man and her man needs to hear her praise in front of the friends because everything she sees in front of the friends is negative about her man. Which is a good point. So then we go back to Toya and she's like, "Oh, she should not be talking." Cuz we had this conversation and we said, "Don't mention my husband. So why are you on the text thread now telling me tell your husband happy Father's Day?" I mean, I know what to tell my husband. Like I'm almost 50 years old. We got a good relationship. We got five green eggs.

I know. Yes. You clearly you know exactly what to tell your man, which is why you had to have a summit down in the basement by the Honda CRV signing table with margaritas and mason jar glasses. So Simone is like, "Well, I didn't." So Toya is talking with Simone. She's like, "I didn't perceive it as shady until you said it." Well, how could you not? Like, okay, come on. Can I have a cocktail? That was very shady. So now um Jackie and Brandy arrive at the party and Angel shows up and Brandy is uh saying that she's excited, you know, and she's, you know, about after all this back and forth with the bag. There's been so much drama and uh and she's basically like, "Yeah, you know, Simone, this you're being shady by throwing this event, but like I also love the shade, so I'm down for it."

So Angel is saying that she wanted to take um a friend of hers to meet a doctor. They wanted to they want to introduce the new girl, Angel, to a doctor. So, she's like, "I was thr to to come to the office to meet the doctor." And Angel's like, "Well, the top three things I look for a man is to know their connection with God because if they don't have one, my kids names are going to make no sense." And um they need to be smart and be loyal. It'd be good if he was hot, but those those other things. I really want a kid named Tithe. So, I'm really working on a religious person.

I just can't wait to introduce this new man to my child confession. These are my confessions. So, Angel is like, she's like, "Okay, so um what type of material are we using?" Uh, look. Okay, it's right here, but I don't want to I don't want to touch Heavily stuff until she tells us to touch it or Jackie's up to tell it.

So, they're like, "Okay." So, they're just checking the bags and checking to see if it's real leather. And she's like, "Yeah, yeah, no, it's real leather." I mean, is it okay, though? cuz the people seem to to think to fit in they got to come in with some fake [ __ ] if you know what I'm saying. It's like yes Toya we get it. You think that Heavenly has a fake bag.

Yeah, we get it Toya. It's just your big story is Heavenly has a fake bag which Heavenly doesn't even care. She's admitted it fake. Like who cares? So, uh she's like why you got to drive fitted like that? You got to have to ask Heavenly about it. And so Heavenly comes in and um you know it's like dirty. So then Contessa shows up and Contessa like they're all sort of dressed relatively casually as much as one is on Bravo. And Contessa comes in in like this sequined blue purple kind of dress that's like mini I don't know what you call those those sort of dresses like a mini skirt but it's like you know but it's like a going out going out to the club dress. Everyone's like Contessa what is happening right just goes where are you going?

She's like, "Just to see my girls. I've been cooped up with kids. I thought it was a sexy day." And they're like, "No." And uh I guess it's later that they're like, "No matter where Contessa goes, she will dress inappropriately." Like, and they show a big clip of Contessa just dressing wrong for every event.

Yeah. I think Heavenly was like, she's like, "Contessa's a beautiful girl, but she just doesn't know what to do with it."

Yeah. So this woman Jackie is like trying to throw this event and she's like, "Okay, everyone, welcome." Okay. Okay. So, uh, we're going to have a drinks and then you're going to get one minute to cheese materials, but they're like not really paying attention cuz now we go over to the men's cuz what's more fun than watching the men sit around and smoke cigars. I was like, hot take. I really don't care about the scenes when the men get together. Although, this one was okay. You know, Eugene was sort of confrontational, but generally speaking, when the man

Well, it was good because usually it's Eugene coming after everybody else, right? Like, and he tried it in this one. It's like your wives, you know, he's always trying to do like the guys are crazy, but the guys keep it separate from the wives. But this one, he's trying to blame everything from his wife on to all the other wives. And I like that they didn't let him do that. Yeah.

Because basically, they bring up the uh party, right? They bring up the other party and the [ __ ] show that that was and um well no first they talk about the office. They talk about this new office and Eugene's like well you know I knew we were going to rent from you Scott but you know Toya went and you know she's pretty judgmental and then we see Tori being like you're supposed people are going to be pooped outside of your office and we're moving up like the Jeffersons and uh he's like yeah Tori said no so we'll be looking for a different place.

go to a different place. And Curtis is like, "Well, don't go up to uh Dun Woody or Duth because then my wife's going to burn down your office."

Yeah, cuz she's doing weight loss stuff, too. So, then we go back to the ladies and um they're like, "Okay, ladies, we're going to make our own leather clutch. So, you're going to have one minute to get your stuff." And they're like, "Well, what if someone else takes our leather?" There's Simone's like, "You take it from them." No, Jackie says, "You're going to take it from them. That's what you do. Take what's yours." So, um, uh, so Jackie, so then Toya's like, "Um, by the way, so do we put the leather on the inside and the outside of the bag?" And Jackie's like, "Yeah, that's that's this is a real leather bag." She, "Okay, cuz some people are not used to that."

So Brandy's like, "You're so shady." What? Why? Wait, wait a second. Why is everyone looking at me like that? I was just saying some people are not used to leather on the inside and the outside of their bags. Some people have fake leather bags. That's all I'm saying cuz I have a friend whose purse I brought with me. Hey, friend. And she pulls out Heavenly's bag and Heaven Heavenly is like, she's trying really trying to like not like pop off cuz she's like, you know, she's like, well, you know, you know, all I know is my portfolio. Cuz she's saying like, I'm running for office. I cannot go off on Toya, which unfortunately for her does not work.

Yeah, you can go off on to you can do whatever you want in office now. This is 2026. Do whatever the [ __ ] you could murder somebody and still win, you know. So, um, Toya's like, I want her to be able to tell which one is real based on the leather, so I thought it would be a good example. She's like, well, I do know about my portfolio. That's what I know, Toya. That's all I know. And I think it's thicker than a lot of people's in here. Right, Toya? College Fund, something like that, Toya? And she's like, uh, but what the wants to use for an example? The wants to use it.

Jackie's like, you got one minute for materials. Come on. and I'm trying to have a scene for you guys. So, they all go and they pick out their materials and everything and she's like, "Okay, you're going to make your bag and you're going to create a border and you cut out the leather and stuff and Contessa's like, "You want to got you guys want to know something funny?" Like, something funny from Contessa? That would be a first. Well, guess what? Guess how Scott paid his way through medical school. He sold fake Coach bags. He gave me a co fake coach bag and and he was like, "You can't even tell." And I was like, "I can tell Scott." And I was like, "Why are all these girls calling Scott up?" And it turns out he really was selling coaches. I went to his house. He really had coaches. And then I finally I was like, "Okay, now that you finished your residency, you have to stop selling the coach bags." Guys, isn't this a

hilarious story? I actually thought it was. And I loved this about Scott. This is the best thing we've ever learned about Scott. It actually made me like Scott. He paid his way through college making fake bags.

Yeah. I love that. That's such a unique husband story. He sold fake He sold fake bags in order to get his real bag.

Yeah, that's right. So then we go back to the men and um they bring up Toya. So Scott's like, "Oh, okay. So Toya doesn't want to rent from me. So is she still mad at you from your party the other night? Huh? Is she mad?" And uh is she still mad at all the other husbands? And Damon's like, "I don't know. I hope not." Dr. Daddy signing in. Yeah. It's like I mean, you know, look, this is what Heavenly was saying that you that you and Toya's relationship. you guys talk to each other in a way that you guys talk to each other and that works for you guys. And Curtis is like, "Yeah, I mean, we all have an opinion on how you and Toya relate to each other because it's not how Jackie and I relate to each other or how Scott and Contessa relate to each other or how Dam and Heavenly relate to each other or how most people relate to each other. I mean, you guys you guys don't even buy vintage cars and drive around in them or

or or anything like that. And the difference is that she'll just dump it out in public. And I've never really seen you come back at her in public. And you know, that's fine. That's that's how it works for you guys. That's good for you. You guys have your own dysfunctional communication. And it works for you. Dysfunctional for us, functional for you.

Your wife for, you know, your you forgive your wife for screaming at you in public. My wife forgives me for cheating. I mean, so we all have our things. And Eugene's like, well, you know, I think that, you know, a lot of the wives at this point are just stressing her out. You know, like I I did hear heavenly say, "That's not how Eugene likes to be talked to." I mean, I think that was a little bit of a jab. She was standing up for you because you were getting yelled at at your own party. I mean, what the hell?

So, um, Eugene's like, "Yeah, okay. Look, we have unconventional communic unconventional communication." She likes screaming at me in public and I like saying I'm sorry and then buying multiple appliances, multiple small appliances. And Damon's like, "Well, you know, I mean, you look you took you look at it a little bit different." And Eugene's like, "Well, only because I'm privy to some of the comments they say to Toya. I mean, they're just not positive. Your wife is screaming at somebody right now across town, mocking them in front of everybody for like the fourth day in a row for having a fake purse."

Yeah. Like, you just don't have a leg to stand on when you're saying everybody's need to. I'm sorry. And that is not an insult of your manhood when we say you don't have a leg to stand on.

You don't have a third leg to stand on. Okay. He's like, I don't know. I've just seen him running. It's like an insult to my manhood. And Damon's like, well, very rarely has my wife said something to you. He's like, well, not to me, but about me, and you never said anything that I thought was disrespectful to me or my family. None of you guys, all the guys are pretty I mean, men, right? Men are pretty sane, right? But women crazy. Curtis is like, "Yeah, but uh Toya has given it as as good as she has gotten it." So,

yeah. And they show the clip. They show the clip of Toya being on Watch What Happens. And Curtis has had his hands on many of the women, so he needs to keep his hands to himself. And I mean, probably in Eugene's mind, it's like, "Yeah, but that one made you look more like a man. That wasn't emasculating."

Eugene's like, "Yeah, I'm not saying my wife is innocent or any wife is innocent. I'm just saying, you know, like we're just all one moment we're talking about a bag and then suddenly it's like your husband's got a little dick and I'm like, where did that come from? Right. Right.

Well, yeah, but it's okay when your wife is like porshaming somebody or saying that she's richer than them and everything else and trying to humiliate them in that way. You're totally fine with that until it comes to your little dick, which I'd like to point out again only came up because Toya said it on camera.

His little dick only came up that way. So Curtis is like, "Well, the women have said stuff about every man in this group, and it's just the way it goes, okay? Women women are crazy. Men are chill. Don't you know that's the first rule of this show?" And Damon's like, "Yeah, and you know what needs to change? The wives." And Eugene's like, "Wait, we've got to change wives." And then they all laugh.

Yeah. So, and also, good luck with that. Good luck with that, uh, Damon. So then we go back to the ladies and Simone's like, "So Toya, I did talk to Heavenly today and she confirmed that she did not mean any shade by the text on Father's Day." And she's like, "Well, I wonder why she didn't tell me that." Like, I didn't mean anything by it, Toya. If I meant something by it, I would say it. Honestly, you know that about me, Toya.

Honestly, I thought that was pretty direct. I'm so blessed and so are my sons. Please wish your father and husbands an amazing Father's Day. Please show tell make sure to tell him that on on camera. Toya, that was pretty that was that was that was pretty mean. And Heather's like, "Yeah, well, I say it in front of every you should say in front of everybody because you embarrass him in front of everybody and it makes us so feel so unfuck so [ __ ] uncomfortable to." And so Brandon's like, "Yeah, that was shady." So Heavenly is like, "It was a positive text. It was very, very positive."

Eventually, it was a good text. I felt like it was a really good text. It was a really good text. So Angel's like, "Well, I this is what I have to say. Hello, I'm Angel." Okay, this is what I have to say. If you've sent a message out making saying, "Make sure to tell your husband that on camera." Prior to that, heavenly, it was a conversation about you speaking about her husband on his penis eyes. And she had a problem with that. And I don't think you know when you offend someone.

And it's like, "Yeah, but she mentions my family on the other text." And you'll act like you didn't even see that whole [ __ ] text. And we see Toya saying uh in text, "You should focus on your own family, especially on camera. I'm sure they need that same support from you." And Toya's like, "Keep your they battle my mouth." And it's like, "Well, stop doing negative [ __ ] to your husband then. I mean, he might like it. I don't know. All I was saying it was it was from a good place, though."

Evelyn, shut the [ __ ] up. And Evelyn's like, "You shut the [ __ ] up." But you need us to shut the [ __ ] up. Well, you deflected from what you said, which was shady. You do this [ __ ] all the time, and you're a [ __ ] liar. Yeah, you're so you're a damn fake ass [ __ ] And then Jackie is like sitting there on the side being like, "Oh god,

monologue from Jackie time, guys." And also Toya, you started it with the first comment. I'm sorry. You can try and twist this any way you want to. Like, oh, she was meaner though. And they turn it and Jackie says, "You don't have to throw a boulder when they throw a rock." If you throw a rock at somebody and you get a boulder back in your face, you'll still go to jail for being the one that threw the rock, right? Mhm.

Yeah. People are allowed to defend themselves. If it's a boulder, it's a boulder. Okay. Don't get mad at the mountain after you threw a rock at it.

But anyway, exactly time for famous proverb. Don't get don't don't get mad. You think it's go tell it to the mountain. No, it's go throw the rock at the mountain and see what sort of rock the mountain throws back and then throw that rock back at it and just go back and forth until you realize you're just throwing rocks.

Well, yeah, dummy. So then Jackie monologue, she's like, "Contessa, toil, Angel Brandy Heavenly Mariah [sighs] that other lady I forgot from the first season who had an English accent for no reason. Carrie, now listen, I'm softspoken because my heart hurts. It's broken.

We've been there when times have been tough. And I'm really sad right now that we've created this group where we can't help each other. pick out dildos or discuss vibrators over a nice calm lunch. You and Toya have never been this broken before. And Heavenly don't throw a boulder if they threw a rock. You know, you're right. Thank you're right. Thank you, doctor. And she's like, I just think it's sad we're at a place where we can't even make bags that look like unfilled raviolis without yelling at each other. We can't even create bags that look like envelopes from a bill collector covered in fur without fighting.

Furry unfilled raviolis. Jackie is like, I truly think that you were trying to come at Toyo the right way. I do. Wrong time, wrong message thread. Oh, and by the way, I smell funky. You guys made me lose my deodorant. It's like I did not know what I was smelling. It's like I'm I'm funky now. I smell funky. Thank you, ladies.

I thought it was the leather. So, he heavenly is like, "Now look, I I really don't have a problem with Toriya. I hope that we can learn from this and we can grow because we're sisterhood and I will always be there for Toriya. When she gets ready and when she needs me there to pay her rent, I'll be there for her.

The only place that Heavenly and I can go is up. And if she means what she says and keeps her word and I will wait and see you. But I definitely don't believe that she's not going to talk about my husband anymore,

which is great. She will continue to and she about your husband and your mother, too.

She will definitely mas and everything else. Yes. Oh, well, what a blessing. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for being here. We will talk to you tomorrow with a little below deck Mediterranean. E love you guys.

Yes. Bye everyone. Bye.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Married To Medicine S12E05: OctoPurse-y"?

Ronnie (Host), Ben (Guest), Heavenly (Guest), Toya (Guest), Eugene (Guest), Brandy (Guest), Mimi (Guest), Simone (Guest).

What is "Married To Medicine S12E05: OctoPurse-y" about?

In Season 12, Episode 5 of *Married to Medicine*, titled "Baggage Claim," the hosts discuss the ongoing dynamics within the cast, notably highlighting Heavenly's entertaining presence as she confronts Toya over recent conflicts. The episode also marks a transition to a new network and updates on content availability for fans, including ad-free options and bonus material on Patreon.

What is mentioned in this Watch What Crappens episode?

11 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Heavenly, Brandy, Contessa, Chelsea Toya, Firdaus Madiar Cc: Carmen, Gucci. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Married To Medicine S12E05: OctoPurse-y"?

The episode runs 1 h 4 min; the transcript is about 13,570 words in 178 timestamped sections.

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