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Married To Medicine S12E08: The Miramar Has Two Faces

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Married To Medicine S12E08: The Miramar Has Two Faces", an episode of Watch What Crappens published February 2, 2026 (58 min, about 11,821 words). It mentions 10 people, works and ideas, including Ben Mandelker, Ronnie Carum, Myiramar, Florida, Pensacola, Miami.

What this episode is about

The main topic explores the humorous dynamics and banter between the hosts as they discuss their podcast's 14-year journey and their relationship with Bravo's reality content. Key points include reflections on their growth, challenges with audio quality, and light-hearted commentary on the concept of "gay years" in relation to their friendship and podcasting experience.

Key takeaways

  • Fourteen years and still not on the gay podcast lists; maybe we should apply for a merger instead!
  • Miramar Beach: where Ben & Jerry's reigns supreme and is more famous than the beach itself!
  • Happy birthday to podcasting! Still audio-challenged, but at least our humor is crystal clear.
  • Marriage in 'gay years' translates to 98 years of podcasting wisdom—experience, like wine, just gets better with age!
  • Who knew a conversation about Florida could be more entertaining than a season finale of any Bravo show?

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Ben Mandelker, Ronnie Carum, Patreon, Myiramar, Florida
  2. – 10:00: Ben & Jerry's, Dairy Queen, Myiramar, Florida, Miami
  3. – 15:00: Ben & Jerry's
  4. – 20:00: Pensacola
  5. – 35:00: Mihari Medical College
  6. – 57:53: Patreon, Amazon

Notable quotes from "Married To Medicine S12E08: The Miramar Has Two Faces"

  • Welcome to Watch What Happens. To get our videos as soon as they're released instead of waiting for a week, head over to our Patreon. That's also where you'll find our bonus episodes and our Discord community. We love you guys.
    about Patreon · at
  • Happy birthday. It's still our birthday for the podcast. We turned 14 yesterday, so happy birthday to us.
    about Ben Mandelker · at
  • Married to Medicine. And before we do that, if you're listening to this in time, we are going to be on Amazon live to talk about some cool things that we've purchased. And on…
    about Amazon · at
  • Today it's time for Marriage to Medicine. It is our mid-season girls trip to beautiful scenic Myiramar, Florida. So, I Myar Beach like I've heard of Myar Beach, but I don't I don't inherently know where Myar Beach is.
    about Myiramar, Florida · at
  • Not only is it next to Dustin, but when you do a search on Google Maps for Myiar Beach, it says Miar Beach and then it says Ben & Jerry's that like there's like a big It like really highlights that there's a Ben & Jerry's in Myar Beach.
    about Ben & Jerry's · at
  • And she's Well, this is actually where I went to flight school in Pensacola. So there you go. I learned a The ladies don't know this, but I was in the Navy.
    about Pensacola · at
  • She went back to school to earn a master of science degree in public health from Mihari Mahari Medical College.
    about Mihari Medical College · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Ben Mandelker — Person · Host · 3 mentions · first at
    Co-host of the podcast; drives the episode’s commentary, announcements (Patreon/Crappies/newsletter), and recap of Married to Medicine.
  • Ronnie Carum — Person · Co-host · 2 mentions · first at
    Co-host who banters with Ben, fact-checks/argues about Miramar’s location, and co-narrates the Married to Medicine recap.
    Ronnie Carum. Hi Ronnie, how are you?

Companies & orgs

  • Ben & Jerry's — Company · Incidental mention · 3 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as part of the discussion about Myiramar, Florida.
  • Dairy Queen — Company · Incidental mention · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in passing as part of the discussion about Myiramar, Florida.
    There's also an anti- Annies and a DQ. Wow, they really are. They're really pushing. Look. Look, it's like the only things that they show of Miimar Beach on Google Maps are that there's an.
  • Mihari Medical College — Company · Reference · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in passing regarding Contessa's education.

Places & events

  • Myiramar, Florida — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
    The location where the podcast hosts discuss their trip and the events surrounding it.
  • Pensacola — Place · Reference · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a location near Myiramar, Florida.
  • Miami — Place · Reference · 2 mentions · first at
    Referenced in relation to Myiramar, Florida's location.
    So, it's in the Miami metropolitan area.

Sponsors

  • Patreon — Company · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at
    Promoted by the hosts for bonus content and community engagement.
  • Amazon — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a platform where the hosts will be appearing live.

Full transcript with timestamps

Okay. What? Just press. Welcome to Watch What Happens. To get our videos as soon as they're released instead of waiting for a week, head over to our Patreon. That's also where you'll find our bonus episodes and our Discord community. We love you guys.

Hello and welcome to Watch Crains, a podcast about all the crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today on this oent a what I was trying to say um I started saying ostentatious but I went I meant to say a sensible day, a specious day. Ronnie Carum. Hi Ronnie, how are you?

Hi gates there. really just right out the gates. Um, happy birthday. It's still our birthday um for the podcast. We turned 14 yesterday, so happy birthday to us. Thanks everyone who has listened and supported us for 14 years and helped us grow from this random side project with bad audio and indie music at the start of it and grow it into what it is today. So, we really appreciate you and we would

still basically the same. Yeah, pretty much the same. You know, let's be honest.

14 years later, still having audio issues. Do we get to call this gay years that we've been together? Because we're gay. And so gay marriage is longer. It's like dog years, right? When you've been married for 14 years, that means we've been married for 98 years and gay years.

Yeah, but we are gay. But I don't know if this is a gay podcast because it's about bravo.

Based on based on the fact that we were never included on any sort of list about gay podcasts. Well, that's You don't need to be on a list to have a dick in your mouth, Ben.

We're a closeted gay podcast. Uh, you're not gay until another gay calls you gay. So,

that's right. Um, who cares? Why are you paying attention to gay lists? I just think it's really funny. I just think it's very funny that like

this a way to start off year worrying about gay lists. [gasps] Oh man, we are the Colts and Underwoods of podcasting right now. Rejected by the gays. So uh today we are talking about Married to Medicine. And uh before we do that, if you're listening to this in time, we are going to be on Amazon live to talk about some cool things that we've purchased. And on top of that, we have ad free on our Patreon, which is pretty groovy. And on top of that, we have a new newsletter. The newsletter is back. It is revamped and the latest one just came out. And if you want to find that newsletter, it's on Patreon and it's a free thing on Patreon. It's open to all. It just lives on Patreon. So sign up there. It's like a basically a blog.

It's a blog. It's back to the blogging days for us. We're back to the blogging days.

Yeah. So, we're doing that and The Crappies is coming up February 27th. So, we're getting ready, writing our music, writing our sketches, doing all of that, getting our guests. So, that's fun. You can get tickets now over at watchcraftins.com. And next week, voting begins. So, come back for that. Uh, check our socials and all this that good stuff for that. Obviously, it'll be announced in the newsletter, too. We're really pushing that one. Yeah. Yeah. Sign up. Have fun. Today it's time for Marriage to Medicine. It is our uh mid-season girls trip to beautiful scenic Myiramar, Florida. So, I um Myar Beach like I've heard of Myar Beach, but I don't I don't inherently know where Myar Beach is.

It's giving panhandle vibes, especially because a contestant at one point says that it's close to Did you say Pensacola where she be learned how to pilot a helicopter? It's like reminding me of like Destin, Florida. It's giving me those vibes. You want to drill down?

Dustin's nice, right? I think Destin is quote unquote nice. I don't know if it's like nice. Nice. I think it's like

Well, this is in Broward County. Okay. Really? So, it's in the Miami metropolitan area.

Okay. So, I completely got this wrong. I don't know why I got panhandle vibes. And I know it's a good place because there's a seminal Hard Rock Hotel and Casino there.

Oh, pretty good. Oh, wait. No. Wow. Okay. Or close. Come through Miramar Beach.

Just random attacks on Myiramar over there. Jesus. I know. I'm sorry. I just was listen to say it's in the panhandle nonattack. I just said, "Wait, no, Ronnie, you lie.

You lie. What? I looked it up on the internet. The internet. Okay, first of all, I looked it up on the internet as well. And guess where it is? The panhandle.

It's actually right next to Dustin. Not only is it next to Dustin, but when you do a search on Google Maps for Myiar Beach, it says Miar Beach and then it says Ben & Jerry's that like there's like a big

It like really highlights that there's a Ben & Jerry's in Myar Beach. There's also an anti- Annies and a DQ. Wow, they really are. They're really pushing. Look. Look, it's like the only things that they show of Miimar Beach on Google Maps are that there's an anti-an DQ.

Oh, I guess because it's Myiar Beach. I mean, I like it. You've just made me want to visit there. They've got all my favorite things there. Why wouldn't I want to go there? Sounds amazing to me.

I'm I'm not dissing it. I'm saying it. I'm It's sounding better and better the more I talk about it. Look, and it's also across the bay from a place called Niceville.

Oh, we wouldn't be allowed there. But I like that there. So there must be like a Myiramar beach and a Myiramar, Florida, cuz Myiramar, Florida is a neighborhood in Miami.

Oh, okay. It's a suburb of Miami, it says. Well, let me tell you something. Uh, it looks like it's across a a bay or or body of water from Niceville. And also highlighted in just just north of Niceville is Matty Kelly Art Center. So, you know, a lot of and Turkey Creek. Kelly is like, "I did commercials in the 80s." Trust me, bring your kids to learn here. Smile big, kids.

One hour air conditioning and heating. Why are these the things that Google Maps has decided to highlight in the region?

One one hour air conditioning really paid for that spot. They're like, "Listen, Dairy Queen's in it. We're paying for this, too. Start a GoFundMe. I don't care what you do. Get us on there. Google suggestions."

All right, let's get let's get started with this. I really don't care about Myiramar.

I'm enjoying the regional. I'm enjoying the regional sights and sounds of They've got a Dairy Queen. That's all I need to know. Okay.

Okay. We're going to Myiar. So, we go over to Quads and um Qu King's like, "Why does it always seem like you're packing?" She's like, "Because I always am packing, King." And this one people are doing.

This one is for the girls trip, Kingy. Little Kingy. And he's like, "Why are you packing your grandmother's dress?" Um, and she goes, "Your grandmother wore dresses like this. It's like this little tiny short dress that's all boobs." I know my mima wasn't like at the height of fashion, but whose grandma dresses like that? This looks like a granny dress to you. It's a flirty little dress. He goes, "Who you going to flirt with?" Oh, that's true. Nobody. Where's my habit? So then we go to Toya's house and um she's saying it's stressful around these ladies. As if Toya is not the one causing Toya's lit, you just kicked the entire cast out of your house two weeks ago.

So and Eugene's like, "Uh, maybe you should pack some oxytocin." She's like, "Uh, what? How do I get them to take it? Like what? What? You want me to be on drugs with my friends?" He's like, "It's a natural hormone so that you feel happy feelings towards the person." Okay. She's like, He's like, "How do you think I've stayed in this marriage? We have so much oxytocar

beach. Miramar, Florida." So, uh, she's asking Scott if he's going to help her pack and he's like, "What? Why you have that big ass suitcase? How long you going to be gone?" And she's like, "For three days." Um, so like you know I big suitcase because I'm a lady and he's like she asked do you like this bikini? And he's like you look like a granny panty. You're such a hater. You're such a hater Scott. What's up with the guys keep on shading all the women for their

for their old lady clothes. So weird. And why are you listening to Scott? He's wearing [ __ ] sunglasses in in his bedroom

inside. Yeah. What's happening to Scott? Don't forget Scott is an R&B music star. Let's not forget

that's right with the movie theater. Um, so she's like, "Will [clears throat] you tell me what happened?"

I actually just forgot that Scott was an R&B superstar until I talked about it right now. I forgot it was an unlocked memory. That's what happened on our crappin's birthday. I got that unlocked memory.

Yeah. So many wonderful unlocked memories about Scott singing his songs. So, Contessa tells Scott that like everyone left um this uh the Scrubs fashion show in a bad place. Um or where or like they all were fighting. She says that Toy got into it with Angel, Simone got into it with Heavenly, and also Contessa got into it or or and or Simone got into it again with Quad. And Scott's like, "Oh man, they've been bumping heads for quite quite a bit lately." She's like, "Yeah, for years." Anyway, Scott, thanks for filming that scene with me. you really were a great contribution to it and um you can go now. [clears throat]

We'll go to Simone's and um she's packing as well. It's a packing scene. It's like I don't even know how I feel about going on a trip because me and Quad are at it again. And Cecil's like, "Yeah, I mean I I figured you weren't going to go after I saw what happened at that glamorous scrubs event." And she says, "Well, I mean, and who told you I was looking up a vin? I don't give a damn about looking up your cars, girl. I made it as a joke last year when you said I'm a findoutologist, but it was literally a joke.

Find Outologists. [clears throat] She said, "I said it to Heavenly. Quad needs to leave me alone before I look up the VIN number on her car, but I never looked up the VIN number. And even if I did, so what? Am I not allowed to use the internet with this group of friends?

Yeah. Am I not allowed to find out when your registration's due? So Cecil is like, "Is heavenly [clears throat] egging on an issue with you and Quad?" Cuz it, you know, it seems like actually you were in a good place, but now this person's just gassing you up like, "Oh shit." Simone's like, "Right now." You know what else I think is some [ __ ] [ __ ] Heavenly is trying to act like I'm having all these marital problems just because I said I want to have a divorce and I would be so much happy without you in my life, Cecil, and it's always three against one. I don't know why she thinks I'm having marital problems. It is cr I have no idea where she got that.

You've literally said every episode while sobbing that you're about to leave Cecil. What? And Cecil's like, "Well, we don't know what's going on in anybody's house. Here's what we do know. It's the first thing in the morning. I don't have a job. And I'm watching you pack as I drink a yard of beer in bed. We don't know what's going on in anyone's house. We don't know if they have a basement bar that a husband stands at all day long pretending like he's in The Shining waiting for Jack Nicholson to come by. So Simone is like, "Yeah, so stop [ __ ] with mine. Stop [ __ ] with my house unless you want me to put my real thoughts out there." And he's like, "Don't don't do that. Don't do that. Leave me alone."

Now we go over to Heavenly and she's like, "Daddy, did you see how Simone acted a damn fool? Daddy, could you believe that you would do that to me? It's just me innocent heavenly with innocent heavenly voice." Daddy was like, "Could we we go in fight not fighting?" I mean, the way she did all of this, I mean, I think miserable people do miserable things, daddy. Don't you? I think there's something going on with her, but I cannot be her punching back just because her marriage is terrible. Her her husband is probably having a beer in bed right now, and that's nobody's business, but hers.

And he's like, I didn't like what she said. I didn't like it at all. Oh, you're mad, daddy. You didn't act like you were mad. I couldn't tell you were mad, daddy. He goes, I was furious.

I was furious. Look, this is my furious face. Oh, daddy. Daddy. Oh, you're really embarrassed right now, daddy. Well, they tried to trigger me, daddy. And I don't feel like I've done anything to Simone. I've been like a really good friend. I really don't think so, Daddy. So, why don't you don't think I should go, do you? You think I shouldn't go to the strip? Do you think so, Daddy? Cuz I don't really want to go on the trip. And like, if I don't have to go on the trip, I won't go on the trip, daddy.

Yeah, she did. She She slipped so quickly. She's literally putting clothes in there. He's like, I can't believe you're even going to go on a trip. Oh, you don't think I should go on the trip? Oh, well, maybe I You're right. You're right Daddy.

I didn't say anything. Yep. You're right saying I shouldn't go on the trip. Go on the trip.

No, you're right saying I shouldn't go on the trip. I will absolutely not go on that trip with

I'm not [ __ ] going on this trip. I don't even know why I'm packing. I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going to go, Daddy. I'm not going to go. We don't want to go. Do we want to go? We don't want to go, Daddy. There we are. We're not gonna go. She's basically like Gollum. [clears throat and laughter]

My precious. My daddy. Yeah. Now she's like, "I'm not going to put myself in a in a bad situation with Simone. I don't want to slap the [ __ ] out of somebody. So, I'm just going to stay here. I'm going to stay here because I'm an adult. An adult in politics." So, now the other ladies arrive at the airport and they're excited like, "Mirar, Miramar." So, Contessa tells us that she just she picked Myar Beach, Florida so that way they can relax, put a little sand between their toes, maybe go to the Ben & Jerry's, hit up the antie afterwards, DQ, who knows? um and they can repair some of those relationships.

So, Angel's like, "Well, you know, I invited everyone to my nice event and I was just very disappointed with everyone's behavior. Everyone." And Quad's like, "I I apologize. I can apologize. I am so so sorry.

I apologize too that I did not bring Quad Smog check records to the event. That was my bad." So Simone and Quad joke around and hug each other, so they're fine. And Contessa's like, "Um, no, Heavenly. Where's Heavenly? I thought we were all going to be on the same flight. She never mentioned anything." Well, Brandy, do you know? And um, [clears throat] Contessa's saying, "Well, you know, Simone, you're the reason she's not here. So listen, we're just going to focus on who is here, and we're not going to focus on who's not here." Okay?

We're not going to focus on that person who is heavenly who is not here and she is choosing not to come here. So, we're not going to focus on that. So, Simone says that she heard that Heavenly called her aggressive, unhinged, hostile. She's saying that uh Simone pushed her at Angel's event and that she doesn't feel safe coming on the girls trip. And Simone says, "I could kick my own ass for trusting Heavenly again. Once a snake, always a [ __ ] snake." So now they go to Florida and they uh head over to their rental and um they're not really sure at first and Quad's like, "So what made you select this area, Tess? We're close now, so I'll call you Tess."

And she's like, "Well, this is actually where I went to flight school in Pensacola. So

there you go. I learned a The ladies don't know this, but I was in the Navy and um I learned how to fly. I was in the best shape of my life. I was running. I was swimming. Scott wasn't wearing sunglasses inside. It was a different world. It's a different world back then. I could do literally everything that I wanted. I was incredibly accomplished. And uh my pedigree was amazing. And then I met Scott and now I'm here. We have a movie theater that he has a little a little director slate on the door that says now playing. And I pretend to laugh every time he points to the fact that we'll be watching another stupid movie.

So Toya Toya gets on Jackie and she's like, "Where's your friend that? She's going to stay home then. She's your friend." And Jackie's like, "Well, I don't know. I don't I don't really know what's going on with I'm not going to be pulled into this." Well, she might come or she might not come. What do you say, Jackie? She's like, "I don't know, Toya. Is she that upset? Tell us, leader of Oz, tell us what's going on with her." Jackie is like, "I don't know." Well, so they're like, "Well, have you talked to her?" She's, "Well, not about this situation, but what I'm waiting to do is have a conversation with everybody cuz Simone, you were on a 10." She's like, "All of your people were on a 10, too.

So don't talk to me about 10. And don't talk to me about Heavenly and her [ __ ] because once you start claiming some [ __ ] I didn't do, there's no coming back. I'm going to 12. So get ready. And she's basically like, "Look, we're doctors. We're licensed professionals, and if you put out information on TV that I was violent or acting a certain sort of way, I could lose my that affects my reputation and my medical career." So, she Simone is not playing at all with Heavenly's insinuation that Simone was physical or or doing something out, you know, like

I know, but I like that. I like that Simone's like, "That could affect my reputation. I am a medical professional." Oh, I wish they had just cut to the scene where they're like screaming in each other's face and had to be dragged apart physically by the other ladies. Like,

okay, I'm sure that looks great. I'm sure that looks great for I know, right? For your profession. Like, this we have 12 years of this show. Like, how are you talking about worrying about your reputation? I think your reputation's fine.

Yeah, reality TV just in general is not going to be good for any professional's reputation.

Yeah, except for somehow Dr. Jackie. So, Contessa, uh, they get to the rental. It's really nice. Um, and then they're going to go look, choose rooms and everything. And um, she Contessa says that Angel and Brandy are going to have to share a room because they're newbies and it's a right of passage. Angel's like, "This is some [ __ ] Where's the Ritz Carlton?" And uh, no one's happy. like the the the two women are not happy about it. Which is funny because it's like they're like, "We are medical professionals and we work so hard and now we have to share a room together. Why are you doing this to us?"

Yeah. So, they pull straws for everybody else. I like that Contessa's like, "Okay, everybody else can pull straws. The newbies, you're [ __ ] but everybody else can pull straws."

Um, so they're annoyed and now is the run to find the room. And meanwhile, every the younger ladies are checking out their room and it's bunk beds and there's like two bunk beds and a full-size bed and they're like, "Oh jeez." And we even have to share a bathroom. What the hell? Angel tells us, "I grew up in in a household with five girls and we only had one bathroom and that was hell." Contessa, you're about to traumatize me. I thought she was going to say, "You know what? That's okay. So, I know how to deal with this. It's no big deal."

She's like, "Fuck that [ __ ] I'm never doing it again. I'm not going back. I won't go back.

Yeah, you shouldn't mention that to anybody because now it's on your resume and people are like, "Well, she can deal with it. She has five sisters, you know."

Yeah, she knows. So, Angel uh So, Angel and Brandy are settling into their room. And Angel goes, "So, you've got good energy." Okay. We've got good energy, right? You got good energy. And Bry's like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm fine." And she goes, "Cuz I have to have great energy around me, especially when I go to sleep." Okay. Can we make sure energy is as good as possible at sleepy time because the vibe's got to be good for me because that's the only way I can roll. And Ry's like, "Uh, okay. This is a bit much." Yeah. She's like, "Um, I mean, I'm I'm going to move on, but there's like things I can't get over talking about the fighting last week." And she goes, "Oh, okay. So, you've got bad energy." And she goes, "Um, me as a person, I don't have bad energy, right?"

And she goes, "Okay, well, good. So tell me what you're working with so I can just know who I'm with there because I need you to have good energy because if you're not gonna have good energy and she's like uh what do you what do you even mean? She goes I'm asking you what you've got so I can know how to roll. And she's like uh if all else fails my energy doesn't work for you then quad's door is always open. So now they're now they start fighting over nothing like literally nothing. It's so funny.

Yes. And Brandy's like oh really? Okay, ladies, ladies, if somebody came to you and said, "What's your energy going to be? If your energy is good, then we're going to be good in this room. Is that okay?" And Angel goes, "Uh, oh no." Brandy says that. And Angel's like, "Yeah, but you were bringing energy into the room." And she goes, "Okay, well then bring it down here to the group then.

I'd like to add something. You brought that energy by saying that." And Angel's like, "No, I need to know who I'm in a room with because when I go to sleep, I need to have good energy." And Toyo's like, "Well, just apologize to your roommate." She goes, "No." cuz she basically said, "If I don't like her energy, then you're welcome to go by quad." It's like they're they're it's like talking to the principal, right? So Brandy is like, "Well, that's after you said all that. Okay. Do you need a repeat? Do you need their playback?

Okay. Do you have energy for the playback?" Well, you check yourself cuz that's very aggressive. She's like, "Well, I don't know who you think you're talking to." And everyone's like, Mimi's like, "Okay, okay, everyone. Okay, okay, okay." Everyone's like, "Well, let's reset. Reset on the energy fight. we not compelling enough to take up this much air time.

So Angel's like, "Okay, well, however you feel or however you took it, that wasn't my approach." And Tori goes, "Uh, approach or intent because words are very important." And this is somebody who knows what Oxyloin is. I think it's not a drug.

Uh, this is someone who's used OxyClean on her laundry, which makes me in a good mood. Apparently,

when Toriya is giving you grammar lessons, you're in trouble. Yes. So, Angel's like, "Well, however you want to say it, that's however she can receive it." Contessa's like, "Toya, you're you're not like I say in so many situations, Toya, you're not helping." So, Angel's like, "Well, whatever you do, understand what I'm saying. Like, however I delivered it. That wasn't my intent. That wasn't the way I wanted to come. And if I offended you, I apologize." And they're like, "Can we just get into our bathing suits? We don't want to be part of this energy fight with the newbies.

So now they go have um like drinks and dinner by the pool and they're hanging out and Contessa's like, "Okay, I wanted to update you. I gave Heavenly a call and she did not answer. So I don't know why she's not here. I hope her family is okay and nobody has been arrested 5 years ago and she's just finding out today cuz that is something that tends to happen over there."

Well, I know why she's not here. Some of them will tell you though. Uh-huh. And

she's saying she doesn't want to be around me for safety. Me, a doctor. Well, she told me that you push her. And that's what she told me. That's what she told the people.

I did not push her. I just said, "Take your off ar take your arm off of me and do not touch me and use a windmill motion to get said arm off of me." Wait, so you didn't say get your [ __ ] hands off of me? No, I didn't. And Bry's like, well, even if she did, that's not assault. And she goes, no, I said get your hand off me. Do not touch me. I'm not doing this fake [ __ ] with you.

Yes. I was like, well, I did see that situation and you were like, I don't want to be fake. And I had to take that as an act of aggression between the two of them at all. And Quad's like, well, Simone, go. You know, she you know, Simone can go for bad, but she she's not that godamn bad. She's not gonna bust a grape in a food fight. This is my favorite thing. I love this. She won't bust a grape in a food fight. This is Simone we're talking about.

She's like, I'm a Chihuahua. A Chihuahua who can look up VIN numbers, but I'm not going to bust a grape.

She's not going to bust an egg on Easter Sunday. I think she was feeling bombarded and she was not feeling heard. So, it frustrated her and she was just out of it at that time. And here's the thing, she has to learn to not be that way. And I say that as her campaign manager. I mean, look, this is heaven. This is Heavenly's bad for not showing up here because when you don't show up after something like this, you let everybody else on the cast reframe it to however they want to. And that's what they're doing right now cuz this is a total reframe. First of all, Heavenly did start it by trying to start [ __ ] with Simone about the VIN number, you know, between Simone and Quad. She did.

Heavenly did start it, but Simone did also go to attend and was screaming and yelling and had to be pulled away by the other ladies in a very glamorous Scrubs fashion show. So, yes,

let's all respect the fashion show of scrubs, okay? We all know what work went into that. And so Simone was acting all kinds of crazy in that. But now they can reframe it to where it's like Simone was just being calm and rational and Heavenly is trying to make her sound like a monster. They were all being so extra about it was basically a vin fight. You know, they were being so extra because Simone was being extra that Heavenly spread this gossip. I think Heavenly was being extra in her denial. Heavenly could have been like, "Oh, I said it as a joke." Whatever. Or Simone said, "I or why didn't Simone just say, "I said it as a joke." And Heavenly whatever. And then Quad was like, "You're going to look up my VIN."

I mean, like they just were they they really like took it to an extra place. And thank God. I mean, I enjoyed it.

Thank God. I mean, it could be 10 years from now and you can tell me. Do you remember that time when there was a Scrubs fashion show and it was space themed and they got in a fight about a VIN number? I will still laugh. I will always laugh.

That has an enduring legacy. So Simone is saying, "Look, we're two professionals in this community. Be a stand-up woman. Be a woman of character and address it. Address it right then." And Cadessa's like, "That's right." And by the way, if Kevin if Heavenly does come, can we can see that emotions were high and then emotions are high and we know this memory can sometime this this can sometimes be a problem. And someone's like, "Yes." She's like, "I'm saying this because I would love it if this weren't a permanent rift in our French in our relationship or your relationship." Someone's like, "Oh, it's permanent. It's very permanent." But if your group can't be honest with you, then nobody's going to be honest with you, right, Simone? So, I hope you felt heard because you were heard. Okay, Simone. Okay, Contessa,

you want a hug? You want a hug? I got some I gotenadone. Get your [ __ ] hands off me. I do not need a hug.

I got some Wakan food in me. I got makes me feel nice to friends. Okay, guys. Let's change the climate a little bit today. Okay, let's all empty our gas tanks into the pool. Okay, the mood is not what I want it to be. So, let's play some games. Let's play some truth or dare, guys. Okay, let's get in the pool. Let's do that. So, they get in the pool and uh they start playing truth or dare, which I know is your favorite.

I know. Um, Contessa starts with a pretty broad question. Okay, everyone, tell us a funny sex story. Oh, okay. That's just just anything. Just tell us any sort of sex story. Let's get let's get this game rolling. I was like, thanks for the specificity there, Cadessa.

So, then Angel's like, "Oh my god, I have a story. I've got a story." Okay. Does everyone have good energy for my story? I need good energy. Okay.

All right. So, I went to the store and I went I bought some spray for your mouth, you know, numbing spray, you know, so you can take it deeper. And I tried. So, I sprayed my throat, right? And then it went numb. And I'm just like, "Oh my god. Oh my god." And this [ __ ] was so numb. I thought I was going to die. I'm running running around. I was like, "I can't swallow. I can't swallow. I couldn't even bust the man. My my my throat was numb." Turns out it was poison. I wish that you had been able to go through that with that [ __ ] just to hear what happened to the guy's dick.

with all the throat the numbing throat spray on it. Like what? I've never heard of that. It's like having a wiener so big that you needed to like numb your throat with throat spray. That's crazy.

Yeah. She was gagged and gooped. So, um, now they're asking about sexy positions. And so, Bry's like she she gets up and shows the ladies a position. And Quad's like, "Yes, show me the how to get those twins, baby." And so she does, she's like doing like a sex move where she like squats down on it and then like flips herself backwards presumably with said wiener still inside of her and they're like, "Wow, that was amazing." Jess is like, "Well, thank you for sharing." Um,

but Brandy goes, Brandy goes, "No, you get it in and then you flip and then you keep it in and you just let it marinate there and that's how you get twin. You let it marinate. What

is she talking about cooking chicken breasts or is she talking about sex? So Simone's like, "Well, I'm not doing any dares." So contesta says, "Well, when was when was the last time you initiated sex?" And she goes, "Um, we were in Greece in April and I gave head. I mean, I did the whole thing. Santorini was everything." Yeah, Greece will bring it out in you. I didn't even have to use Greece. And Brandy is like, "Well, what is it about Greece that like made you feel this way?" And she's saying it was like really romantic. And Contessa's like, "Okay, Mimi, whisper your favorite dirty phrase into someone's ear." Which I don't know. This this felt like so slumber party-ish. So now Mimi's telling Brandy, "Are we giving booty or nah?" I guess that's her sexy phrase.

So sexy. [clears throat] So Quad's like, "I could be very seductive. Do you dare me? Somebody dare me. And so Quad tells Toya, she's like, "Do you want to take a shower?" And this is the second time of the night we hear how sexy it is to get clean and then get dirty again cuz we heard it on PTOIC earlier in the evening. It's a big big night for showers on Bravo.

Big. That's right. So Quad's like, "Contessa, what does your initiation look like?" And she goes, "Well, you know, fellatio, you know, I do that a little bit more frequently. You know, I don't really like it, but it's not my favorite thing." You know, my favorite thing is, I think, pursuing my dreams of flying and uh things like that, but settling and giving Scott [ __ ] That's also kind of fun, I guess.

What did she go back to school for? I forgot. Remember when she went back to school?

Huh? Oh. Oh. Oh. When she went I think she went to back to school for um it was a specific type of medicine. like public health maybe. Was it public health?

Yeah, something like that. Cuz she wanted to like go to Didn't she want to go to Washington and work?

That's why she wanted to be like the health adviser or something. What did Contessa go back to school for?

I mean, that's neither here nor there that has nothing to do with the scene. I just remember

public health. Oh my god, how did I remember that? Yeah, you're so good. That is good.

She went back to school to earn a master of science degree in public health from Mihari Mahari Medical College. Yeah. Uh, so anyway, blood jobs. So she goes, "I guess I need some spray, guys."

Sorry, that was a sidetrack. I was just curious. So, um, now everybody's waking up and calling their families and then they, um, gather to discuss the day and Contessa's like, "You guys, should we chill? Do you guys want to go somewhere? Should we hang out at the house? What should we do? Would you want to chill?" And, um, she's like, "Well, let's eat." So, how about some of us go to dolphin experience and then some people go to lunch and so

Okay. Which one would you do, Ronnie? Dolphins, of course. Yeah, dolphins any day.

Of course. You know, I would do all day dolphins. Yeah, we love dolphins. Um, so Contessa is she's got these jeeps that are called Moes and they're just like cute jeeps. You know those that sort of I love an adorable Jeep where you feel like you could just like fall out at any moment and die. God, it's so cute.

Yeah, I know. I love the safety. I love the safety features on them with no doors or ceiling. They go slower than all the other cars.

They are powered by your feet Flintstone style. They're just so cute. Yeah, they really are. Um, so Simone asks uh if uh she's talked to Heavenly and Contessa's like, "Well, she responded to my text and she said it was Damon's birthday and that's why she didn't come and she didn't mention you at all." Although she did send a um photo of Damon with his furious face and it was this.

It blinked one time and uh Bry's like, "So, she's not coming?" She goes, "I don't know." But the question is, did she overreact to something or was it intentional to actually try to get you in trouble or did it just get ex escalated? What happened? And Mimi's like, well, my opinion as daytime Mimi is that I don't think she was

I don't think she was afraid of Simone actually hurting her. Maybe she was afraid of how she was going to respond and you know, maybe what that could be.

Simone says, "Use your words." Randy's like, "You know, we're all medical professionals with very good energy." I'd like to also add and like I feel like I that should mean something. So you know how much your license and your livelihood and your practice and all that really means and Cadessa's like and what's my question my question is is that so Brandy tells us I'm into the group and every single event that we've we've had has involved conflict with heavenly some someone that goes to extremes is not someone that I trust as a person. So now they're teeing up a uh Brandy and Heavenly Rift, which was already brewing because Brandy has declared that she was not ready to endorse Heavenly's political run. So Toya is now Toya, Angel, Jackie, and Quad. They go to lunch and they're in the in the Moes. And uh Jackie is driving crazy. Apparently, she's driving very fast to the point where her hat

almost blows off. And um Angel is stressed out. And Quad's like, "Oh, look, there's a little baby right there. Isn't that funny how when you want something, you see it all the time?

The rare sight of a baby in the world. It's been years since there's there's been one seen on TV. So,

it was a world of adults until I wanted a baby and now they're everywhere I go.

I couldn't even get into this moch without saying what were taking a baby to the to the store.

Did anyone notice that AB Grant's baby baby was playing on the mo when we got in? It's one thing if you're like, "Oh, I never heard of that kind of roofing before. I never heard of that kind of shingle." And then all of a sudden you see that type of shingle on all the houses. But like I think a baby is a pretty big It's a pretty big car category for I notice babies everywhere. Like yeah, there are babies everywhere. Everywhere.

I was thinking of planting a tree in my house and now there's trees everywhere I look.

I was thinking about this emotional wall I sometimes have and I looked. It's almost like every room I go into has not just one, not just two, but up to four walls. It's insane what you notice the moment you highlight it. That's called your reticular activating system. So if you buy a red car, you see a bunch of red cars. For example, one morning I told Curtis that he was being an ass. And then for the next 5 years, he couldn't stop searching for ass online. It's kind of like how once you notice that Cynthia Revo wears those cool glasses and Wicked, you just start seeing them everywhere on TV. So, [clears throat] uh, Quad tells them all that she tells us that she hasn't told everyone about what's going on with her IVF journey because it's a lot and she wants to tell everyone once they're all together. Um, she doesn't want to have to say it multiple times, which means that she'll be having a speech at some

point on this vacation. So, now we get to the dolphins and um everyone's like nervous around the dolphins because they're, you know, big animals and they're like, "Is it going to attack me?" And the dolphins are there and they're they're playing. And then we cut to the other women who are at lunch. And Troy is like, you know, it's going to be difficult for Simone being around Heavenly. Sorry, I'm just already laughing at how funny it will be for the rest of us. God, it'll be great.

But she said last night she can be in the same room as her and she's like, "Well, but she did beat it, though. So, they're talking about how how rough the event was the other night. And Angel's like, "Yeah, I mean, I don't really get that." And Tori goes, "Yeah, but what were you talking about with me, though, Angel? Like, what were you talking about with me? I mean, because you said like, what kind of friend are you? What did that mean?" And she goes, "Well, when my friend came around to the family reunion and you said, "Hey, she's been asking me to hook her up with men.

Who are you?" I mean, that's not what you do. Undermine another man while he's sitting right there. It's very disrespectful. You should undermine men on national television behind their backs. Come on. But also like it was I was surprised that that was her angle on it. Like I can't believe you would undermine a man that way. It's like how about you can't believe that she would put your business out there while you're on a date. You know, like I think Toya for sure can be annoyed. It's like you just asked me to hook you up with someone but you actually you have someone. Why are you wasting my time?

And I think you can say that to Angel privately, but while Angel's on her date with this other guy, just be like, "Oh, you have a you have a this is nice. How nice for you, Angel. We should talk, by the way." Or something like that if you're really displeased with her. But like, you don't have to like undermine the date. You can still be dissatisfied with her and express it later.

Yeah. And she's like, "But you confuse me because you would say that you wanted to settle down and then you asked if I do anybody and now I'm blindsided. At the family reunion, you bring this guy and he says he's been he knows you for years. And I was like, she's either willing to [ __ ] up my situation with my husband's best friend. I mean, that was my family. You put my family on the Victoria here to go and Angel.

By the way, I'm sure like Eugene's [clears throat] best friend, like if he's he's if he's been Eugene's best friend for a long time, he's dealt with like a lot of your antics, Toya. I'm sure this is not the thing. This is not the straw that's gonna break the camel's back. I'm sure this guy will be so upset that he got set up with a drop deadad gorgeous registered nurse and Oh, he'll be so he'll be so upset by that.

And also, even if you did set him up and she was dating somebody else, she's allowed to date multiple people at one time.

Yeah. And there's that, too. It's not it's not like you say, "Oh, wow. I got a doctor, so uh you're you're marrying him, right?" It's not like an arranged marriage, you know?

Yeah. So she's like, "Yeah, Eugene's best friend would have been so disappointed in me." I'm like, "I'm sure that bridge has already been crossed, but because I couldn't bring someone to whatever, but um you know, but that being said, she does she does actually have a point that it is annoying that you ask me to go out of your way to do something that is unnecessary."

I don't because she was just making like a little comment like, "Oh my god, if you know any men, hook me up. I'm single girls." It's not coming to her like please, please find me a man. I'm desperate. It was like some comment on like Yeah, you got someone who's almost I'm dating. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying to allowed to be like

I think that toy you're allowed to have like like low-level annoyance like um you said you were like you needed help but you've got a guy like why are you why are you like acting one way but I don't think it's I don't think it's at the point where you need to be like oh my god Eugene's best friend would never have forgiven me. It's like you're being dramatic now. Toya's like, "Well, she's mad that that that I blew up a spot, but like she's willing to [ __ ] up my spot." And Angel's like, "You're [clears throat] funny. If you ever want to have a friend or a friendship with me, I don't want you to ever do that ever." And Toyo's like, "I'm going to let you go. I'm going to I'm going to get to know you before I make any moves going forward." So, there you go. No more access to Ugene's friends.

Yeah. She's like, "Okay, well, I see how you are with the bed. I got it." And she goes, "Yeah, don't do that. It's very disrespectful." So, she stands her ground with Toya, which I thought was good, you know, and she's she says that that's bad girl code and it's very tasteless and tacky and that's probably why she has bad situations in the friend group because she doesn't know how to be a friend. And Angel's like, "And I don't need your help. I'm good. I'm amazing." And Toy's like, "Mhm, I could tell miss not dating and dating ruin people's families because you're going to try and date somebody in my family."

So then Quad's just bored. She's like, "So, are we good? Why are we still talking about this?" So now Heavenly comes.

And by the way, this is the saddest lunch ever. They're at like maybe a hotel or something. I don't know where they are, but it looks like kind of a high up place. It looks like kind of a, you know, low low to mid-range hotel. And there's nobody there. And the waiter's just like, "Hi, it's Wendy. Do you guys want to move inside?" and she'll, "Thank you, baby. Thank you, baby."

I would have preferred to have actually gone to the DQ. Like, just go to the DQ at this point.

Yeah. They must not have looked at the same Google Maps that we looked at. Yeah. Seriously, remember when we went to DQ in San Diego and that super sad mall?

Yeah. Hell yeah. That was fun. I also went to the DQ in the sad mall in Burbank.

I love a sad mall DQ. I love a sad mall, to be honest. You know what the saddest mall was? There was that one in Houston we went to. That was so sad. The saddest of all.

Weird mall. Yeah. Mall. Yeah. Like green carpeting. Yeah. It was pretty bizarre. And then we went to the restaurant after and it had a bill big huge lit billboard outside with different prayers on it.

Yeah. Oh, they had good queso. I like the queso. Yeah. And they're like, "We caught this boar today. Anybody want to eat this boore? We just caught it." And we were like, "Not really."

I ordered it, didn't I? You actually did. You had the roadkill special. Whatever it was. Sir, we just ran this over and cooked it up. Who wants it? You're like, me.

I'm like, excuse me. Can I have the bor shakurerie while I watch your Fox News scrolling on the wall? Thank you so much.

Like, can I have a baked potato? I love dolphins. You know what's so funny about the dolphins in this episode? I was looking at them because the women were sort of lined up and dolphins came over to them. They were so cute and they're there, but you really only see the top of the dolphin's head and their snout. And I was like, they look so much like the alien and aliens. I wonder if like dolphins were part of the inspiration for for that like the xenomorph art, right? Did Did they

You know who I think dolphins look like? And it's someone I don't really even like. I think it's the guy from Stranger Things.

Um David David, the one who kind of went nuts or whatever. The main guy David something. The one Lily Tomlin Lily Tomlin wrote all the songs about.

Yeah. your fraternity brother Harbbor. Yeah, David. David Harbour. Yeah, I think he looks like a dolphin.

I can see like a really drunk scraggly dolphin who bowls. Yeah, there was a girl in my high school who um looked like a dolphin. I felt like and I would I would call her dolphin not to her face. I would just refer to her as dolphin. And um yeah, some people just look like dolphins. That's just the way it is. So Heavenly comes into this sad lunch and she's like, "Y'all are loud as hell. Well, I could hear you all the way all the way outside. And they're like, "Oh, hi." And it's awkward. And she's like, "Uh, listen. I just left the airport.

Uh, hi, Miss Toya." And Toya's like, "Uh, you know, you got to be careful when you touch people, okay? We got an issue. Okay. So, what are you going to touch people now?"

She's like, "I'm not going to touch you because you're going to say I'm being aggressive." So, Heavenly's like, "Yo, is everybody doing good? How's everyone doing?" It's like, "We are doing good." Uh, we actually had a really good night yesterday and we had a lot of fun and I honestly didn't think you were going to come, right? Oh, and Heaven's like, "Well, I need a little bit of a mental break for a second." So, I spent some time with my man cuz his birthday is actually tonight. So, I spent some time with daddy and we did some things last night and we were really good. Everything's really good.

Well, what kind of things did you do exactly? They did some merit things, Jackie. You don't have to ask questions about every little thing.

So Heavenly, the producer asks her why she came after all. And she's like, "Well, Simone was saying a lot about me that I wasn't there." And Quad called me and said, "Listen, [ __ ] This is what's going down. So I came to set the record straight."

Well, if I'd have known you was you were coming, uh, I'd have gotten you a hat.

I don't know why that's so funny to me. Like, oh, shucks. Missed out on a hat from Toya. He's like, "Well, where'd you get that from?" She's like, "No, that was a lie. I didn't have a hat in the first place. Hat joke. Or as I call it, hat trick. Everyone's like, "Okay, well then where's the hat?" There is no hat. Wait a second. So, you're saying there's no hat? You know, I'm trying to run for office. You're supposed to give me a hat if I'm running for office.

So, the other ladies at the dolphin uh thing, they were too scared of the dolphins. Dolphins are nice. Stop screaming around the dolphins. Okay. You are in the dolphins home. It's like walking into somebody's home and then just start screaming at the top of your lungs. They're dolphins. Be nice to them.

It's also like you've basically abducted the dolphins and you're keeping them in captivity and then you're going to be scared of them.

Yeah. You're the one that You're the one that's screaming. The dolphin is in jail. The dolphin is being forced to do tricks by these two nitwits who are like, "Look at us. We can raise our hand." And now watch. The dolphin walks backwards on its tail all for a little fish. Like you are you were holding them hostage. Okay. And then now you're now you're the one screaming. It's like going to visit a a prison and just screaming at all the prisoners. Like you're terrified. You're in their home.

Yeah. Exactly. Although I feel like maybe one of the dolphins is just like honestly I know that we're captive, but I just love entertaining.

Yeah. It's like the kid coming out to entertain a parents friends at a dinner party.

Yeah. It's like you open you open the cage door and he wouldn't even leave. He'd be like, "Show time's at 8. What are you talking about?"

But I like that they're screaming. They're like, "Oh my god, these dolphins, they could kill me. They're so big. They could eat me." And then the dolphin opens its mouth to smile and their teeth are like this big. They're like teeny tiny little teeth. And the dolphins just got this huge smile. Those dolphins were [ __ ] cute, man. I want to hug a dolphin.

So cute. I love a dolphin. Um, so there now the dolphin girls are heading back and

not not to be confused with the girl you went to school with. Bless her heart. She's probably listening to this at somewhere just being like, "God, well, happy [ __ ] anniversary to you,

bitch." She'll never know who she is. Oh, she knows. She has no idea. I don't think you walk through life with a dolphin face and don't know that you have a At some point, somebody's been like, "You look like a [ __ ] dolphin.

People are monsters." Is that the worst thing to look like, though? By the way, someone said,

"If you're a dolphin, it's not." I mean, if you're a dolphin, it's so cute, but if you're not a dolphin, it's a pretty bad thing to look like. Who wants to be told they look like a dolphin?

What animal do people want to be compared to? I guess no one wants to be compared to any animal, but people say I actually often walk like a penguin, and I've accepted that.

Really? Yeah. I've never seen that. I'll watch next time you walk. Cuz my hand sticks out to the right. I don't know why. When I walk, I like I sort of like waddle in a weird way. I sort of teeter totter and my hand sticks out and so I look like a little penguin. Um, and that's just that's just my lot in life. I have penguin characteristics. This other girl has elephant characteristics.

I don't think I've been compared to an animal. Well, my sister one time when the movie Beethoven came out about the dog, my sister said I looked like Beethoven.

No. No. You're not giving Beethoven energy. I don't think so. I don't know. Maybe.

I think it was just accessible. I don't know. Like a cute dog. I I accepted it.

[ __ ] that girl. She's out of my will. But anyway, that's [clears throat] neither here nor there,

dolphin girl. So, Contessa's like, "Oh, I wonder what everyone else is doing. They're probably just relaxing and like, yeah, maybe they had fun, too." And so, now they're talking about how they're going to take some hoe baths and just wash the good parts.

No, no. Contessa's saying she's going to do that. Contessa's like, "We we don't really need to take showers, right? Just do a hoe bath." And they're like, "Uh, we need showers. We were just in water with dolphins. We are showering. We were in dolphin dolphin pee water." Okay, there will be a shower, [clears throat] Contessa. So now Toya is like, I think they had more fun than us. And so Heavenly comes in and she's like, "Hey, hey, everybody." And then like she sees Mimi and she goes, "Oh my god, see Lord Mimi." She does her like really nice voice for the new girls.

Someone goes, "Well, I see y'all brought the trash back." And Joy goes, "Well, are you going to be okay with the trash? Cuz your friend is here and it's not okay." And Cadessa's like, "Who's my friend?" She goes, "The one in the orange." Oh, you mean have Yes. How can't you try to see? We're trying to be shady. You got it. Like the part the fun of being shady is you have to understand the shady reference. Okay.

Someone's like, "She passed by me without even saying hello. This is not going to go well."

Why do you care about her saying hello? you hate her right now. So, the toy the producer asks uh Toya if uh she anticipates a [ __ ] storm.

Oh, yeah. There's absolutely a [ __ ] storm approaching cuz let me tell you something. Something was undercooked at lunch, but also I think there's going to be fighting with the girls and let me just tell you about this [ __ ] storm. Okay, let me go up to the green screen and I'm going to do a weather lady thing. So she gets up in front of like a map and like here comes Hurricane heavenly is category 4 right now and we're anticipating Hurricane Heavenly going to category 5 once it's landfall. We are advising everyone to shelter in place for the incoming disaster. It's going to be a [ __ ] storm.

I like that Tori even in front of a green screen really not having to do anything still looks like she would have no idea how to do the weather. She's like and then there there's a storm and then there there's heavenly and then there I don't know what am I pointing at. Am I supposed to point here? Am I supposed to point there? What am I supposed to do? Just put your arm up, Tori. Okay, there's a [ __ ] storm. I don't know. Could Could we get Eugene in here to do the plot? It was a pretty cute episode. But I will tell you this, when Heavenly said she's not going to go on that trip, I audibly gasped and cried. I started crying. And then when she wasn't on the trip and they started playing that like truth or dare, oh my god, how do you get [ __ ] I was like, [ __ ] this show. The show needs heavenly. I think they just proved to us how much the show needs heavenly because it came to back. It came back to life

the second she came back on. I was like, "Oh, thank God. The show is saved. You and the Dolphins."

Whenever they any of these shows whenever say, "Let's let's play a game." It's like, "Okay, this is my cue to get a snack from the kitchen cuz when I get back in 10 minutes, you'll still be playing the game."

Yeah. Um I uh I love Heavenly. I felt the same way when Quad wasn't on the show. I was like, "Oh, no." Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not. We need them all on this one.

I've been on an I've been on an up and down with Quad. I Quad was like my all-time favorite for a while. And then at a certain point, she started to annoy me cuz I felt like I think it was during like the sister circle times. It just seemed like she her heart wasn't in it and she was just sort of like doing like she would show up late or it just felt like she also had like a lot of stuff off camera that like was the focus, especially the whole Mariah fight. It was this giant fight that went on for three years about something that happened at SDK off camera and that was like very frustrating for me. But um I was foolish to ever sort of become anti-quad because the truth is that Quad is a legend and

yeah but Quad did go right up to that edge where she got too she got too wrapped up in herself for something and it started not working for the show and then it was it became miserable

and then when she came back she changed she changed it up. I think she's, you know,

she like I think the energy around is like fantastic. She did she realized like

you and that happens with with with Bravo stars. I was going to say housewives. This is not a housewife show, but it happens where sometimes

the success you know they start to feel like they are bigger than the show and they go and then they they they lose sight of it. And you know I will always stand that that's that is something that happened to Nene. Nin is queen of Bravo. One of the all-time best if not the best housewife there ever was. But she lost I think she lost her way. And I'm actually really happy that I feel like she's gonna she's gonna come back to us. Um, you know, because now everyone's everyone these days is like, "Oh my god, Nene was the best. How could Bravo ever get rid of her?" Like, you have to remember those late Nin seasons were not great.

But they were rough. Um, but you know, then we see what the show's like without Nini. And it's like, "Oh, no, no, no, no. We need Nene." You know, there's just some things you can't make a chocolate chip cookie without the chips. You need them. That's the important part of it's in the title. You need it.

And I think that's these are essential ingredients of these shows, man. I need I need my quad.

I need my Simone. I need my Toya, my Jackie. I think they're all really important to this. They are really They are really good. And I like the newbies, quite frankly. I actually really like Brandy, even though she's done very little. There's like an energy about her that I just really enjoy. Um

I think they're okay. I mean, they're they're so much younger and different. It's like a different It's like two different shows going on at once, you know? Like when they're having their fight about the energy in the room and like I see like I like them because I think that they're making an effort and I like them for the most part, but they're nowhere near

the quality of the OGs. I mean, even in the first season when you first saw them. I mean, it was so it was so crazy right from the get-go with Mariah even, which by by the way, Mariah is not one of the required ingredients, but

Mariah was good in her time. you know, she had her good news, too. I always enjoyed Carrie cuz she was always like,

"Yeah, this is absolutely crazy." I think she's going to be on Watch what happens live soon. Did I see that somewhere?

Um, but these [clears throat] these new girls are they're fine and they're not they seem nice and I like them. They seem like nice people, but they're nowhere near the kind of star quality that the rest of the cast had from the

That's true. That's very true. They're not They don't have that star quality, but like Yeah, this show has had some odd casting choices. Like I never understood why Lisa Marie Cloud was ever on the show. Like that's just not someone who's compelling on TV. Even when she

Well, she had some good years too. I mean I mean she or there were some good years with her on it.

I was going to say I mean she she definitely turned it up like in the beginning she just was like hi I'm Lisa Marie Clatt and then she she like she went nuts. Um but still she she never compared to the original cast either. I agree with that. But I mean Heavenly was a great find. So

Oh my gosh. Yeah. you know, just keep shopping. That's why you just keep shopping, you know.

Yeah. I'm sad that they didn't bring Buffy back. I thought she was one of the great uh additions to the show for

I didn't I didn't love Buffy so much. I wasn't I wasn't too I liked She was fine when she was on, but I wasn't sad when she was axed.

Yeah. Well, anywh who, that was a fun little assessment of Oh, reminiscing. Yeah. Well, it's fun. It's been on 12 years. That's crazy. And it's an anniversary. We've covered every episode of this show. That's nuts. You know, this this is one of the ones that we've actually cover Well, I mean, no, we haven't because we've taken seasons where we haven't, but we've watched. It's one of It's been around as long as us. You know, it's not one like Orange County that or New York that's had a history before we even got there. So, I don't know. I always feel more protective of

And so much of the main cast is still there. Really, the only ones that aren't there are just Carrie and Mariah. And everyone else is still

still chugging along on the show, which is which is very impressive. I mean, um, when you look at some of the other franchises that got to season 12, it's a lot of turnover, but anyway,

agree. Good times. Uh, come join us for the crappies. Get your tickets at watch what happens.com or on our social media. Check us out on Amazon. Check out our ad free offerings on Patreon and our bonus episodes and also the new newsletter. Thanks for being here and we'll catch you in the next episode. Bye everyone.

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Who speaks in "Married To Medicine S12E08: The Miramar Has Two Faces"?

Ben Mandelker (Host), Ronnie Caram (Host), Heavenly Kimes (Guest), Simone Whitmore (Guest), Toya Bush-Harris (Guest), Contessa Metcalfe (Guest), Angel (Guest), Brandy (Guest).

What is "Married To Medicine S12E08: The Miramar Has Two Faces" about?

The main topic explores the humorous dynamics and banter between the hosts as they discuss their podcast's 14-year journey and their relationship with Bravo's reality content. Key points include reflections on their growth, challenges with audio quality, and light-hearted commentary on the concept of "gay years" in relation to their friendship and podcasting experience.

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10 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Ben Mandelker, Ronnie Carum, Myiramar, Florida, Pensacola, Miami, Ben & Jerry's. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Married To Medicine S12E08: The Miramar Has Two Faces"?

The episode runs 58 min; the transcript is about 11,821 words in 204 timestamped sections.

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