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Jimmy Kimmel & Molly McNearney: What Really Happened

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Jimmy Kimmel & Molly McNearney: What Really Happened", an episode of We Can Do Hard Things published November 6, 2025 (1 h 9 min, about 13,110 words). It mentions 8 people, works and ideas, including Jimmy Kimmel, Molly McNearney, Abby Wambach, Los Angeles, Disneyland.

What this episode is about

The conversation features Jimmy Kimmel and Molly McNearney discussing the emotional aftermath of their show's cancellation, sharing their reactions and experiences on that pivotal day. They offer insights into resilience, love, and support during challenging times, providing valuable lessons on bravery and community connection.

Key takeaways

  • When cancellation looms, text communication turns from hopeful to hilariously somber—'Things are not fine' is the ultimate mood shift.
  • In celebrity culture, being off-screen feels like a non-existence—a peculiar paradox of fame that makes ordinary life seem mundane.
  • Helicopters and media frenzy create a surreal reality; when the world peaks in curiosity, the personal feels almost secondary.
  • Parents master the art of emotional camouflage, navigating chaos while questioning if their kids can sense the storm brewing.
  • The irony of canceling a podcast called 'We Can Do Hard Things' highlights our collective struggle with life’s difficult moments.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Jimmy Kimmel, Molly McNearney, Abby Wambach, Los Angeles
  2. – 20:00: Molly McNearney, Los Angeles
  3. – 30:00: Abby Wambach, Los Angeles
  4. – 40:00: Vori
  5. – 50:00: Curlsmith, Abby Wambach, Los Angeles
  6. – 1:00:00: Jimmy Kimmel, Abby Wambach, Los Angeles
  7. – 1:09:21: Los Angeles

Notable quotes from "Jimmy Kimmel & Molly McNearney: What Really Happened"

  • And two people who have been well in the news lately and their names are Jimmy Kimmel and Molly Mcernney. And you all just you're going to learn everything in this interview. They talk about the day everything went down with.
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Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Jimmy Kimmel — Person · Main guest · 6 mentions · first at
    Central interview subject discussing the suspension of his late-night show, public backlash/support, free speech, and how he and his family handled the crisis.
  • Molly McNearney — Person · Main guest · 2 mentions · first at
    Co-interview subject and Jimmy Kimmel’s spouse/collaborator; provides emotional and family perspective on the show suspension, political strain with relatives, and coping strategies.
  • Abby Wambach — Person · Co-host (referenced on-mic) · 5 mentions · first at
    Referenced as Glennon’s partner and part of the hosting team; appears in shared anecdotes (fantasy of buying a ranch) and is addressed directly by Jimmy Kimmel in conversation.
    Tell them what you're going to call your ranch.

Places & events

  • Los Angeles — Place · Setting · 6 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as the location where the hosts and guests live and where the podcast is recorded.
    I have to imagine that you do this because Abby and I do this nightly and I just think do you guys dream of a life like of setting off into this like we dream every night of like we're going to buy a farm or a ranch and we're going to.
  • Disneyland — Place · Referenced location · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in a personal story about surprising children with a trip, highlighting family moments.

Sponsors

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    Promoted as a convenient way to send money to friends and family, highlighted for its ease of use in personal moments.
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Full transcript with timestamps

Wow. The reason we're celebrating in this strange way is that we just finished the most delightful, hopeful, honest, funny, hilarious conversations conversation with our friends and neighbors and two people who have been well in the news lately

and their names are Jimmy Kimmel and Molly Mcernney. And you all just you're going to learn everything in this interview. They talk about the day everything went down with the show cancel cancellation, where they were, how it all felt,

which we were supposed to be recording this conversation exactly at the time where that that day and that time where the news broke and Yeah. and couldn't obvious for obvious reasons, but that was wild to hear all about that. Yeah, I actually that morning got a text from Molly that said, um, hey, I think everything's, uh, going to be fine for this afternoon, but just so you know, things are a little weird. And then several hours later, I got another text that just said, not fine. Things are not fine. And then all the news came out.

So, this is just a beautiful conversation with two people who we adore and respect and appreciate so much. And I think it's going to help this conversation. I think the way they're getting through um has a lot to teach us about how to get through and how to be brave and how to be steady and how to love our people and love our country and love each other through this time. So, we give you Jimmy and Molly.

Hi guys. Hi. There they are. How's it going? Hi guys. How you doing? Good. We're good.

I might cry. Just seeing your faces. You cry on every podcast. That's what I do.

I already don't feel special. It's not. Can you cry hardest today, Mom? I will definitely cry the hardest here

to see [ __ ] Oh my god, this is so exciting. It's so good to see you guys. We were just talking before about the day that we were supposed to record this podcast and I don't know if you remember, Molly, because you had a few other things going on that day, but I got I got a text from you like late morning and it was just like, "Things are getting weird, but I think it's going to be fine." And then I was like, "Okay." Um, then several hours later, I got one that just said, "Not fine." Not

Yeah, that's an understatement. Yeah, that is definitely an understatement. I love that you were um in that with us that day.

Me, too. It's crazy. I remember you in the morning connecting with me first. You're like, "Hey, I'm so excited for tonight. Is there if there's anything you want to talk about or not talk about, let me know. I'm like, "Oh, we're great. We'll talk about anything."

Yeah. We don't have anything to talk about. Yeah. I'm like, "What are we gonna talk about?"

And then we [snorts] had a lot to talk about all of a sudden. Yes. And then we had helicopters over our home.

Yeah. You guys, what was that like? Tell us what you can or want to. I liked it. I enjoyed it.

You did? It was finally the attention you deserve around here. Yeah. I don't know. I guess it felt like I think it maybe it felt like um OJ during the chase.

That's what it felt like. We were OJ. Yeah, we were OJ and um headed home and helicopters and everybody um and then we were on TV 24 hours a day for like three days in a row and I had the realization that um had I died there would be nowhere near this much coverage.

Oh my god. It felt like you had died. Like we It was wild. We were at work doing our thing and then midday we learn we are no longer doing our thing.

Well, when you say it felt like I had died, what Molly I think is saying is is I'm only alive to her as long as I'm on television.

Yes. And then you're dead. Yes. Then I don't even exist. Saturday and Sunday don't even see you. Yeah. You're dead.

Um it was it was a really crazy day. And uh and then we went home. We sat here for a while. We learned the show had been suspended. Moments after we learned, I believe that's when I texted you, Glenn, and was like, "Well, uh, we may have to cancel the podcast tonight."

And, um, I wanted to do it anyway. You did. Jimmy wanted to get us all in more trouble.

Like, listen, we got business to attend to. Um, and then we just sat here in the name of the podcast is we can do hard things and we backed out on you.

Oh my god. Cuz we couldn't. We can't do hard things. We can't. We've tried. It's not for us.

If they're even moderately uncomfortable, we won't do them. That's so It was so true. We canceled on We Can Do Hard Things.

Yeah. Wow. I never thought too hard. It was too hard. So then, hold on. I'm getting us back on track. So then we go home, which felt very strange because it felt weird to leave

because we went to the wrong house. Stop it. And the people who live there were disturbed.

Stop it. And we just sat there in their living room and looked at them and it was weird. And eventually they got up and left and we just claimed the home.

Yeah. It's our home now. And we live there now. And we can do hard things. Yeah.

Look at us. Okay. So back. Let's just stay on track for one second. We go home. I know you guys will appreciate this as mothers. Like we go home and our kids are there and we realize they have no idea what's going on. And um we had to do that thing that parents do so well, which is just immediately put on a mask. Um and we did very well and ask them how was soccer today and what's the funniest thing you heard at school today? And we're just trying to make conversation with our children. But meanwhile, our phones are just the whole time in our pockets and um there's helicopters over our house and madness outside and uh and Jimmy said, "Well, we're going to have to tell them because our daughter's in fifth grade and kids talk." And so we sat them down on the couch and we told them, we said, um, I believe Jimmy started the conversation.

And we realized in that moment that any other time we've sat them down to talk about something, I guess it's been good because Jimmy said, "We want to talk to you guys about something." And Jane, our 11-year-old, went, [gasps] "Oh my gosh, Julie, they have to talk to us about something." And she's like, "Get in here. Get in here." And I think the last time we had done that, we surprised them with Disneyland or something. So, they seemed like it was going to be good and it I it occurred to me, "Oh, boy, this is not going to be good." And uh and Jimmy let them know. He said, "Our show has u my show has been suspended." And um our daughter immediately burst into tears. And she said, "Um, I'll sell my Le Boooos."

And we told her, "Yeah, you should. No, we we did not." We told her, "No, you don't need to do that. You don't need to sell Leoo Boooos." and our son asked um if the president had done this

and uh we looked at each other and we didn't quite know how to answer that question.

I think I said yes. We did. We actually [clears throat] both said yes at the exact same time. Um we said yes. Um he did and it's weird, you know, cuz you don't want your kids to

It's certainly not an experience I had with my parents. No. In Las Vegas having to sell your laboo. You mean

I didn't even have any. You know, we had a this dirty cabbage patch kid. That was it. I think it was bought used.

That's so weird though, cuz your kids are like, "The president is targeting our family."

Yeah. It's funny though because my our daughter has this idea that when I retire, she's going to take over the show. We've never said this to her. We don't know where she got it. She has three other siblings. Two of them are actually adults. And

one of them works here. Yeah. more qualified to take over if it was indeed a family business that you could hand down to your kids.

Yeah. It's like Yeah. She was losing her show. [clears throat] She felt as if she'd been somehow suspended.

Yes. I'd ruined it. I'd ruined it for her. Yeah. She was very disappointed. And then um to calm her down, you know, we said, "We're okay. We're going to be fine. Let you know, it's going to be okay. This does not change your life. It doesn't change your friends. Doesn't change the memories you make. We're going to be okay." Okay. And we really, Jimmy and I think really both believed that night the show was never coming back. And um and then our

So we were lying. So we were lying. But it does. Yeah. And then I went over to the pantry and ate everything in it.

That's also true. Um and I said to Jane, I said um and and Billy, I said, I want you guys to know that um it's really important you remember this moment and I want you to remember this that your dad and his show are on the right side of history. I want you to remember that. And my daughter very earnestly paused and she said, "I thought we were on the left."

They're very literal children. Very literal children. And I said, "Well, we can be both. We can be on the right side of history and also on the left." And that was a confusing explanation. Yeah. And then the next several days were truly the wildest of our our lives, I think.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, it was it was up there. Yeah, it was up there. It was up and down. It was all over the place. But I think what really got us through were um well people like you who constantly reached out with support and love. And then to watch the support of strangers was the most um touching I think.

And we also lot of weed. Weed do hard things is Yes. Weed do hard things. I don't do weed hard things.

We do hard things by chewing soft things. Yes. You guys, what were the other what were the following days like? And was it as heartwarming to see the entire world? That was amazing. The support it made. I cried. I cried day after day after day just reading the stories and the support. Did that sink in? Must have been the best of times and the worst of times.

Yeah, it was it was nice. It was great. It was also so strange that it was hard to even process. I think

it's just weird, you know. The whole thing is weird. You know, just being on television is weird and having people you don't know think they know you is weird and it's all like something that we've become accustomed to, but it's not normal and it doesn't make any sense really. But you understand it because you know you feel that same way about I may felt that same way about David Letterman when I was a kid. But to um you know what it is I focus I tend to focus on the negative. So for me for me I felt like like um like we'd lost the brakes on a 16-wheeler and we're headed downhill and I was just trying to you know not drive it off the road. So, there were a lot of telephone calls and there was a lot of um kind of strategizing and um just general nervousness. Yeah.

I don't even like being on the phone. That that alone was a big negative for me.

So, but it was great to get um support, but you just didn't know what the next kind of

chapter was going to be. So, like looking back, it was like, okay, well, you know what? That that worked out okay. And um I feel like it was mo the most important thing I think is was like a win for free speech, you know, and I feel like that that that had been a long time in coming since we'd had a a win of any kind. And I think it it it I think it it reminded people that we can win every once in a while and that it is good to keep fighting. But just personally, it was um very confusing. you know, we got a lot of people that we work with and we wanted to uh you know, they have to work, they have to have jobs and everybody wanted to know what was going on and they had a right to know what was going on, but there were certain things that we couldn't tell them and um it was it it worked out great in the end, but while it was happening, it was it's you know, it's always different when it's happening.

Yeah. And u when it was happening, it was very very stressful. very I I will say it did feel um overwhelming to see the outpour of love and support and I really think that that's like when Jimmy said it felt like a 16-wheeler without the brakes. It did feel that way for a long time and then it suddenly felt like whoa we're being lifted on a wave now and um

this is kind of out of our control and I felt good about riding the wave. I felt good about it the way it was going to land. And I think that's all because of the the outpouring of love from people. It was but it was also a very isolating experience. I mean I did not speak to a single other human outside of Jimmy for four or five days. Even my big brother called me and then I just burst into tears. I was like like I hadn't talked to another person because I was just scared. I didn't know what to say. I didn't know what was happening and I didn't want to say the wrong thing. Um, I didn't want to mislead anybody. I didn't want to scare people. I I didn't know what to say. So, I was just talking. We were like in our little foxhole together, which I was a It was a good place to be, but it was definitely isolating and it felt weird to literally hear from every single person that we knew and have known. I mean, Jimmy was

getting texts. I didn't realize how many people you gave your phone number to, by the way. like every person who's ever driven us to the airport and like drivers like a guy in Nashville like people I'm like you gave your phone number to all you gave your phone number to way too many people but like he was getting texts from I mean I had like a thousand text messages he had like 10,000 I mean it was

it was funny when I get a an a text from somebody and then I'd have to go all right well let me read these other texts and see how I know this person and and like honestly there were probably

a dozen drivers that I've had in various cities that that is so sweet. But it's nice, you know. It was nice.

Can I tell you a funny a little side note about that night? It's a sweet thing that we haven't even talked about. So that night there was a man sitting in the audience. His name is Moises. And

Oh yeah. Moises. Yeah. Yeah. We It sinks. He didn't get to see the show. Jimmy connects with everybody everywhere he goes. And we were in Mexico once. Um and once again he gave his phone number to the waiter at the restaurant at this um restaurant. Right.

He started as the waiter and then we um complimented him to the owner of the hotel and the next time we came back he was the manager.

Right. Moyes. Moyes. Yes. And [snorts] then Moyesus was looking to for some help for getting a work visa in the United States.

Right. And he asked I wrote Moyesus a letter. Yeah. Yes. You wrote a letter on his behalf,

which now wouldn't necessarily help him. That's right. But at the time, it would not help him at all. Actually,

now it would probably rule him out entirely. But at the time, it people are asking for letters from Jimmy right now for the United States.

That's the one the silver lining is I don't have to write as many letters. Definitely not. But as I was running between Jimmy's office, I had he had just given the news and I was running to the theater to let um our audience department know you need to release the audience and then we need to let the guest go. I see a familiar face standing there and it's Moises and I was like what? Hi, what's h and I had forgotten Jimmy told me he's like, "Oh, he's coming. He wants to

thank us for writing in he got into the United States and he was coming to the show that night and then he couldn't he couldn't of course of course he couldn't come to our show." Right.

But um there's just a lot of moments like that that were um a lot of Mois moments,

but a lot of moments where you've given your phone number to way too many people. Yeah. Um anyway,

yeah, I just think it's actually so important to note that we didn't know at the time like what was going to happen. You were probably planning the potential of needing to sue everybody. And I just like want to say that like even like the representation like the symbol of what you and Molly and the entire crew of yours is for the world. I can imagine how stressful that must have been wondering well what if they don't let my show back on the air? What are the reperc repercussions? And like I just want to say and like hold space because we live in California and that's what we say in California for you and Molly for like carrying the possibility of needing to stand up and speak the truth that needs to be spoken. Like granted it like worked itself out without needing to go nuclear.

How how do you guys handle things differently? Like I just How do your nervous systems I I just I need you to understand if if there's like eight comments that are mad at me. I can't [ __ ] sleep for night. Like, how do you have amazing therapists? Is it weed? Like, how do you You've been doing this. Like, what everyone needs to know is also you guys have been This did not just start that day. You all have been a symbol for Maggot to go after. You have been some of the only people who are holding the line for sanity and truth publicly for a long time. So, what is that like on a daily basis? And how do you handle it differently?

Well, we do handle it very differently. I'm kind of like, um, you know, when a police officer has seen a lot of dead bodies and eventually he becomes desensitized to it. So, I'm not quite as, you know, I get a lot of negativity thrown my way and I I try not to, unless it's somebody I I respect, I I don't sweat it, you know, I don't let it get to me. I don't love it, but I just I just brush it aside and I don't seek it out. Certainly being not being on Twitter has been a big help because I find that uh that the people on Instagram and and YouTube are a much kinder bunch in general. So being off Twitter has been very helpful. But I just take a very practical approach to situations like this. I'm like, "All right, what do we have to do? Who do I have to talk to? What do I have to check in with? And and how are we going to handle this?" I think Molly's more emotional. Would you say that's fair?

Yeah, definitely. I'm more emotional a little. I'm definitely more She gets mad.

I get really mad. I get emotional. I get easily rattled. But I will say this I this experience I don't want to compare the two. It feels weird too. It's not they're not the same. But similar to our son having an open heart surgery when he was 3 days old. It was like we're in it together, which just brought an immediate calm for me. Um that we had each other

and we were going to get through it together differently but together and um it there's a like something about that just made me feel really calm like having being in the trenches with you.

That was much worse. What? That one. Of course. No, of course. Of of course. I'm not com I don't mean to be comparing the two. Yeah. you know, tragic events, but um they each had the same um comfort for me and in partnership and um that helped get me through. But I'm definitely more emotional. I get my feelings hurt much easier. I get angry, but I've gotten I've gotten thicker thicker thicker skin each time,

which almost makes me sad, you know, like I don't want to be desensitized by these things. Um, but you kind of have to to survive. Yes.

Amanda, can you tell them what you were telling me about all the comedians in all the countries? That smart stuff you were saying before.

I'm just so interested in how power consolidators who want to go after free speech always start with the comedians. You know, in in 1939, the Nazis kicked out the five most just expelled them. the five most popular comedians at the time in you know Putin incarcerated the most popular comedians and gave the network over to a pro Putin oligarch Hoover's FBI exiled forced Charlie Chaplan into exile and it it's just like kind of a go-to move and so I've just been so curious what your take is on what is so powerful about comedy that power comes to it first and for it first.

Well, I think nobody likes to be laughed at and I think that uh being laughed at it's it's the hardest thing for people like Donald Trump to deal with because it shows that you it show you know you're you're not taking them seriously. you're um you're pushing their buttons and you're not scared of them. Even if you are scared of them a little bit, but um I think that it it's also I think a a big mistake. I think it's I for a dictator, not that I want to give them any tips, people really, if there's one thing we understand on both sides, if you want to put it that way, in this country, it's that I mean, I think Donald Trump got elected in large part because people felt that um comedians were being pressured and censored and it was kind of like, hey, I think this is funny and and you're making me feel like a jerk and and you're saying that this comedian that I like can't say this that makes me laugh and it really hits home

with people in a in a very in a deeply personal way and I think in a historical way as well. You know, we have we all grew up hearing these stories about Lenny Bruce and Richard Prior and George Carlin and and Howard Stern more recently where the government got involved in their comedy and just nobody likes that. It it's not and it doesn't matter which side you're on. Nobody likes that. And I'd always wondered because I anticipated that this day would would come. And I always wondered and hoped that my colleagues on the right would would defend the principle.

If not, you know, it you know, some people like me, some people don't, whatever. But I think that being um a comedian, there's a bond there for sure. Um, and it may even be a stronger bond than being an American in a lot of ways because you do understand each other. You know how hard it is to walk out on a stage by yourself and make people laugh and u and no matter what you're doing, it's hard. You know, even if you're doing it in the cheapest possible way, it's not easy. And if it was, we'd you'd see a lot more comedians than there are.

So, I was heartened to um to get support from people that I don't usually get support from. And I always felt that if the situation was reversed, I would feel the same way. And I think a lot of false comparisons have been made to other situations, other comedians, high-profile comedians who've, you know, been cancelled, if you want to use that word, whether it's a a literal or figurative word. And but there it's not the same thing. it in it's in no way the same thing as the head of the FCC threatening the broadcasters who put your show on the air threaten them and suggest that they might pull their licenses in a very overt way in the stupidest possible way on television on camera for all to see. It's just um it's remarkable that this person even still has his job. It's just crazy to me when you have Ted Cruz on your side, you know they've screwed up.

Did any part of you did any part of you and I understand you have the whole crew and it's beyond yourselves and your sense of responsibility, but when they came back and wanted you to put wanted you to come back, did any part of you want to tell them to pound sand like a little part of you?

Absolutely. I mean, this listen, if if if I'd not been allowed back on the air, you know, it would be a I'd be a martyr. You know, it's it's uh it's not a terrible position to be in as a comedian, you know. Um it's uh it's it's not the position I wanted to be in. And it's also not the way I wanted the show. You know, I've been doing this show for almost 23 years. It'll be 23 years in January. And you know, I want to I want to end the show on on my terms. I want to end it in a graceful way. I want I want to I want to I want to have a farewell party with our staff. I want to, you know, do all those things that, you know, I want to say the things that I want to say to people and to just have it happen abruptly and unjustly would have been um awful. you know, it just it's just not how you want it to go.

Yeah. Yeah. That was an interesting like wave I think we both felt was mourning like right after because we felt like we weren't coming back and we didn't have a shot to write our ending the way we wanted to.

Yeah. And to say goodbye really, you know. Yeah. And we left her, we didn't know if we were going to see people again. It was a very strange feeling. and the audience too, not just our our staff, but also like the people who watch the show. You know, you don't it's just like one day you're on and the next day you're not. And that's not what I I imagined or or wanted. So, I was hoping that uh we would we would come back. And I think that

I think that was probably the intention the whole time, you know. I mean, we weren't fired. We were, you know, we were suspended. And um I think suspended means come back, but it just didn't feel like that that to me at the time.

But I will say also I really love getting under his skin, right? No, I Yeah, I know you agree in that taking a little bit of pleasure in it when we see that it's bothering him. It it it brings us a little bit of joy because it it it feels like we're one of the only ones who are getting in there and uh and it he hates it so much that he has to respond and I love that.

It's so childish to respond. Childish. It's like just complain privately. Like I it's so like you we don't need to know every thought you have about us and it's it's kind of wonderful that he shares it. I mean, it's dangerous for us, but it also to me means we're doing the job well. And

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Molly, what is it? This is random, but I think about it all the time with you guys. Like, you come from a pretty conservative family. Yes.

Right. I just Not me, but mom. No, not you. And and I just wonder like what is Thanksgiving? It's one thing to come from a conservative family and just sort of, you know, deprogram yourself and go along your life, but what is it like to come from a conservative family and then become like the mocking Jay of the other side?

Well, it's definitely been challenging. Um, thankfully, my immediate family all um they did not vote for Donald Trump. They did the first time. Um, a few of them. We flipped them the second time. Um, it's it's weird. I I when it when Donald Trump was first elected, I was so upset. We all were, but I remember thinking I understand it because I grew up in a very conservative Republican House. I mean, I bought my dad a Rush Limbatai in high school. I um I voted Republican straight ticket and that's what I was told to do. And then I left um St. Louis, Missouri, and I met people from different backgrounds and I started to understand different things and different needs and different people and there so there's like a little bit of sympathy I have for people in my family that I feel are kind of being deliberately misinformed every day and they've

kind of they are deliberately being misinformed every day and they believe it. But it hurts me so much because um of the personal relationship I now have where my husband is out there fighting this man. And to me, them voting for Trump is them not voting for my husband and me and our family. And I I I unfortunately have kind of lost relationships with people in my family because of it.

I it's it's like this is not just Republican versus Democrat for me anymore. It is to me it's family values and it's it's really hard for me because I grew up believing in these Christian ideals of taking care of the sick and taking care of the poor and I don't see that happening with this Republican party. And so it's I I feel like I'm kind of in constant conflict and I'm angry all the time which isn't healthy at all. But I like personalize everything now. When I see these terrible stories every day, I'm immediately mad at certain aunts, uncles, cousins who put him in power.

And it's really hard. And my it's I wish I could like deprogram myself in some way, but I I I get really angry. And I sent I've sent many emails to family like right before the election saying, "I'm begging you. Here's the 10 reasons not to vote for this guy.

Please don't." And I either got ignored by 90% of them or got truly insane responses from a few. It's definitely caused a strain. I've definitely pulled in closer with the family that I feel more aligned with. And I hate that this has happened. You know, it feels silly. You know, part of me goes, "Don't let politics get in the way." But to me, this isn't politics. It's it's truly values. And we just were not aligned anymore.

That's so honest. And I feel like no one has ever said, at least to me directly, the thing that because that happens to me, too. When some when a headline comes about a certain thing, I get mad at personal people, too.

I think yes. Like if there's an anti-quer thing that comes out, I it's like our brains have to focus on people because it's otherwise it's just this big boogeyman thing.

And so my mind will go to like the four people I know who don't support. I get that.

Yeah, I do it. I visualize seven people that I grew up with loving like like sisters and and I and I'm immediately mad at them and it makes me sad.

I have a different way of looking at it. I know here he's guys just so you know this is the he's going to steady this. He's going to like make me feel kind of bad about it. He's going to be right.

I'm not going to so he's going to be right but I'm not going to want to hear it. But go ahead.

I just think they're being fed a constant stream of lies. And I think that we live in a country where we were programmed to believe the um middle-aged like eye on television telling us the news. And fortunately for us for most of our lives, we had good people in those positions. you know, your Walter Konhite and Dan Rather and Ted Cppel and Peter Jennings and Tom Brohaw who you could genuinely trust and who seem to be like educated and honest people. And now they're kind of there's this cosplay version of it that we see now on on Fox News and all these other wannabe Fox News channels that are telling lies for profit. They they know what pushes people's buttons. It used to be AM talk radio and now it's television and it looks like the news and they call it the news and it's not the news. It's it's not fair. It's not balanced. And these people are ingesting it. And when you ingest enough of it, you start to

believe it and you, you know, maybe they they touch upon some of your biases and they they push certain buttons in you, things that you believe to be true and before you know it, you believe everything that you're hearing. And I don't know that, you know, I I just feel like if those outlets didn't exist, we wouldn't have this. I think people would would evaluate things based on on facts, but it's just um

they have cousin Molly's Instagram and I give them facts every day and they just seem to be ignoring them and that's what bothers me.

Okay. So, they can watch they can watch Fox News all day, but the hard part for me, this is it's a strange position to be in is like you personally know two humans in your life you're related to. Our jobs here we don't tell lies we tell jokes but we are literally re scouring the news every day give presenting people the facts followed by jokes and

if you can't why are you to me I go why are you trusting that guy over me this is cousin Molly here guys like I wouldn't lie to you he's not a good person

the same thing that we think it's like oh she's in Hollywood she's hearing all this stuff she means well but she's not you know she's not right she's She's wrong and she's she's, you know, she's one of these Hollywood

Hollywood liberals. Yeah, for sure. I had an aunt like send when I moved to LA who gave me a Bible and on the inside said, "Don't stay in LA long. That's where the devil lives."

So, that's what I'm dealing with. There it is. She's not wrong. She's not wrong.

She's not. And now I'm sitting on a couch with him. Do you guys When you have conversations about this, because I'm sure it's endless, what do you what is Where's the hope? Do you see any How does this end? Where does this go? What's the hope here?

I think that these ideas this, you know, listen, this is a this is all a con. The whole thing is a con. I mean, you turn on TV and you see the president selling watches. He's selling cheap watches that don't seem to actually be made in the USA. And you have to at some point when that watch arrives and it's a piece of junk and when he tells you he's going to lower all the prices and only he can solve this problem and that problem and how much better your life is going to be. I think that at a certain point you you look around. I think I feel like it's it's it's arrived because his approval ratings are very historically low. No matter what he said, people are starting to realize like, "Oh, I think I might have been conned here." I think like these things that I was told aren't are going to were going to happen aren't happening, you know? Um I mean, think we just saw it with um the soybean farmers. It's like

suddenly that China is not buying any soybeans from they're like, "Hey, what the heck? We we voted for you and now we're not selling any soybeans." And he's like, "Don't worry. I'm going to go I'm going to fix this." and he makes a deal and they're now back to selling the same amount of soybeans which wasn't enough to start with. And I think that people are, you know, as as confused as they may be, as bamboozled as they may be, ultimately they have to go to the supermarket and buy eggs. And I think that the the lies only go so far.

I don't hear a lot of hope there. Well, the hope well, you know, the sadly the hope is that um you know, it's like a drug addict. We're going to have to hit rock bottom.

I feel like we already did. I feel like I feel like every time we hit rock bottom, it's like, "Oh, there's more bottom. Oh, wow. There's another floor."

Yeah. Like, and then they're like, "Oh, there's now there's an escalator down. Oh, now we're on an elevator down."

But there's got to be a bottom eventually right? Where? Yeah. I guess I feel like we keep hitting it. Um, but I will say this experience of this show being suspended and then put back on gave me extreme hope for the first time in a long time.

Same. Same. And it really felt good. And I feel like um I felt united with people and I felt like okay, we're getting back to the basic rights that we let's start here and then let's keep cracking.

I love the protest. You know what I like most of all? I like the um the just just sporadic protests. Like we're just driving home on Sunday and there are 40 people with signs standing on the street corner. It's like oh this isn't even the No Kings March. these people were just mad and decided to go out on the on the street today in LA where almost everyone agrees with them in the first place. I just think that like that kind of action is really indicative that um that people are are ready to,

you know, we we anesthetize ourselves with all the the things that we have to look at. And you know, sometimes like you feel like hitting the like button is that's your that's your political activity for the day. But when people go like, "Hey, I'm going to make a sign and go out and in front of my in front of my supermarket and and march." That's a big deal. That's I mean that's a big deal.

Did you see the the the pictures from No Kings were amazing. And of course there wasn't as much coverage as there should have been. Just millions and millions and millions of people everywhere. But the one that made me so emotional, did you guys see the one woman I think in South Carolina in this very small town? She did she was by herself.

Yes. She did her own no Kings protest had an anti-fascism poster and she was like heckled all day and she just stood there by herself with her little sign. It makes me emotional every time I think about it.

I love that. It was it was a very powerful image. I didn't see that but I love that idea.

So beautiful. People like that give us hope. Right. I love meeting a really old person who's very mad,

you know? I love that. I like meeting a young person who's really mad. Yeah, that's good, too.

That's also really good. Those things are real good. The middle-aged mad, I'm like,

get rid of them. But God, old old mad people and young mad people. You're right. That's so inspiring.

Both of those. I think it's going to take I think why it was so hopeful is exactly what you said, Jimmy. It's like the people over here who will disagree with you 99 times out of 10 and the people over here who love you were both like this is [ __ ] up. Like there's I feel like there's whatever you know that that comedy thread of we have principles that go deeper than opinions and we have values that go deeper than opinions. It's like if we could reestablish that for American values, for family values, for like though this is deeper than opinions. This is like where is the thing that's that that we can hold on to? And that's why it was so hopeful because it was like, you know, maybe I don't like that guy, but I will stand up and say that this is horseshit and he should be allowed to say what he wants.

You know, I I it's it's that piece that we're missing. Yeah. Yeah. We touch the third rail finally.

Yes. That's what's frustrating for me, too, is because when I think about my family members who voted for Trump, I know for a fact that we agree on 80% of the issues. I know that. I know that they think women should have reproductive freedom, and I know that they think that um we shouldn't have access to AR-15s. I know they know what they they agree with me, but then they don't vote in the same way because they've been told that we are voting for this party is something that it's not and we've been perhaps told voting for that party is something that it's not.

But I feel like we're not actually like our our vote is not matching what we really want for this country. I really believe I firmly believe that like you look at like 80% of the country wants the same stuff when it comes to universal healthcare, gun safety, and reproductive freedom, but yet we're electing people who aren't representing our voice.

Well, yeah. It's because we're because these corporations have there's no limit to how much money they can pump into a candidate. And you see all these guys, all these cowards, these these CEOs, these famous people who are all over Biden. And then as soon as Biden wasn't president anymore, they're all over Trump and they'll be back to the other side when the other side is in charge. And it's just it's all it's a ruse to um to make as much money as they possibly can. And um eventually I think that's going to come back to bite them in the ass also. I I just don't think people are thinking in in the long term and that the greater good is is more important than individual good for the individual.

Yeah, agreed. We even just we look at, you know, the what we do to the the climate is like, you know, it's like, hey, I can make some I can make a little bit more money if I um I burn as much fossil fuel as I possibly can. It's like, oh, that's great. Um, it's gonna be really hot and it's you're not going to have water. Like, you know,

trick-or-treating in a bikini. Yeah. Your grandchildren are going to be living in a hellscape because you made a little bit more money this year. And I just don't I I think that we're going to there we're as a society going to look back at this time and we're going to be really angry at the people that made those decisions. All of us, not just not just the left. All of us are going to look back and go, "What the hell did these people do to us?"

Yeah. Things were going pretty good on this planet and now look at where we are.

Yeah. It's really It's uh you know, it's hard not to feel defeated. It really is.

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I I have to imagine that you do this because Abby and I do this nightly and I just think do you guys dream of a life like of setting off into this like we dream every night of like we're going to buy a farm or a ranch and we're going to be a million miles away from everyone.

Tell them what you're going to call your ranch. The homoad. Love it. Obviously, we don't know how to like do animals or or flowers or whatever. People

can learn. But the point is or flowers, crops, vegetables. Yeah. A lot OF HEAVY DUTY RANCHERS out there with their flowers,

their peies. My point is, do you What do you What's your fantasy for getting the [ __ ] out of the situation you're in now?

I'm not for getting the [ __ ] out. And I'm I'm for fighting. [screaming] Yeah. Yeah. I I don't uh I I don't I I just don't think that way. I like I put up a flag on the 4th of July at my house, you know.

He also wears Crocs. They have American flags and a tank top with an American flag and I love

I'm not giving that up. That's not theirs. It's all of ours. Yeah. He is not a runner um at all. He

Yeah. It was funny because I got Italian citizenship and of course um the narrative in the news was that I was fleeing the country and you know of course everybody had a thought and opinion on that and none of it was true. My mom got Italian citizenship and then as a result her children and grandchildren got Italian citizenship and um but you know the narrative is the narrative is like oh these liberals freeing the fleeing the country whatever. I will never flee the country. That's you know that that's the very last thing that I will do. I I'm not I'm not interested in in uh giving up.

Yeah. I mean, I do have a fantasy of not ingesting such toxic um information all day, every day.

You guys know how hard it is to run a farm in a ranch, though. I mean, it is it seems like it it seems like a vacation. And anyone who actually has a ranch or a farm would be like, "Are you [ __ ] kidding me?"

Yeah. I watched Yellowstone and then I changed my mind. Yeah, it's sort of violent.

Those people are very good-looking though. They're great to visit. They have to know how to fix barbed wire.

No thanks. No thanks. It wasn't a perfect plan, Jimmy. I prefer a lake. A lake. Yeah, the way to go.

Okay. W of still water. I think that's nice. Start at a lakehouse. I love that, Jimmy, because I think that is like you can get it's so depressing and then when I think about how depressing the vast majority of American history has been, it's uplifting because it's like, look, this has always been a [ __ ] show. It just depends where you were sitting. And if the people in, you know, the people on the Trail of Tears, guess what? They're still here.

They are still here. They are still fighting. They are still doing their part. The people who are at the lunch counters and who fought in the Union Army for their rights and then were disenfranchised right after, that sucked. And they're still here and they're still fighting. They're just Americans. And it just feels like

it's our turn. This is our turn. This is what we do. No, you show up and do your part.

I'm too weak. And you know what? I just I I'm mad. I get mad because I go it this is why because this is optional. All of this is like optional and it doesn't have to be like this.

That's what I That's what really bothers me. Yeah. And every time like inflicting harm on our like it doesn't have to

we have enough problems that we need to solve without real like let's let's solve pediatric cancer. Let's figure out the climate. We're fighting over whether women can have rights. Like what are we doing? Like that should be a given. Like

remember when we were mad about those lime scooters? Oh my gosh. Like it's just funny to think about some of the things that we thought like oh people taking selfies was like oh these goddamn selfies. Like 10 years ago, our problems were I I guess it's important to remember that and to appreciate how silly our you know, we can get worked up about anything, I guess, but now we have to get worked up about things that are

real things, but also they don't have to be there. Like every time I go to a fundraiser and we all we do a lot of fundraising and and donating to candidates and causes, I go, of course, I'm going to give this, but I'd rather be giving it to Children's Hospital right now, which like why? And I'm giving money so I can make sure this woman who should definitely be elected gets elected. Like what are we duh? Of course this woman should win. Why are we voting for this clown? And it I get resentful of the amount of energy. We all have to push forward so we don't keep falling back. I'm like, can we just keep going this way? And we just keep getting yanked back and yanked back. And I get really resentful of people in my life that I feel like put us there. And that's where I need to work on my anger.

Molly, I hope you don't work on it too much because I just feel like as much as Jimmy's steadiness is comforting and helpful, your Molly Mad Mad Molly is

equally comforting. Okay, good. Well, I'm here for you. Anytime you need Mad Molly, you just

Mad Molly and Jimmy the sarcastic [ __ ] Exactly. And you guys, thanks Steady. I don't know why we were talking about this. Why did you when you guys were neighbors

and when you moved here, you DM'd us, right? You first of all, hold on one sec. Be Let's just go back. Before the DM happened, I had a full freak out seeing both of you guys outside.

Yeah. Like Oh, yes. It was This was quite an really embarrassing. Now, I want to remind you that I've worked at the show for 23 years, and we have I've met every possible celebrity and political figure, unfazed. I am on a walk. I see you, too. And I just became undone. I didn't know what to do. I went, "Oh, hi, Glennon. Abby. Hi. Hi." And then I did a thing that I never do, which I identified myself as Jimmy's wife, which was so gross.

I prefer it. I said, "Hi, I'm Molly." And then you're like, "Who the hell is Molly?" And I'm Jimmy Kimmel's wife. And I wanted to die.

And then I said, And then [clears throat] I said, "I can see your house from my house." And then I was like, "Stop talking." And then I came running home to you and I said, "Oh my god, I just saw

I made an idiot out of myself." Glenn and Abby, I made an idiot myself. You have to fix this. DM them on Twitter or whatever it was. Like I I was like, "You have to fix this." And so he reached out to you. I made him reach out to you guys. I'm like, I've ruined it. I said I could see their house. I was like I I I

I was I was a disaster. Scary disaster. Yeah. Right in your window. Yeah. Totally.

How was that How was that bagel this morning? Yeah. And um I never Jimmy DM'd us out of like just wanting to get to know us. I just didn't believe that.

No. Steady. Jimmy was like, "I'll fix this. I'll fix this." this. And so he DM'd you guys and you were so nice. So now take it from there. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but I needed to give you the backstory in the DM.

No, I'm so glad. Okay, so that makes sense. So then Jimmy DM'd us and he said, and I think I hope I'm getting this right, but he said

you are, right? Hey, it's Jimmy Kimmel. We could look it up for sure. For sure we could.

It's Jimmy Kimmel. We're your new neighbors, so we can find you. Can you hang a purple sheet outside of your door? Which was [ __ ] weird. But I

I had We had just moved to LA. Everything was weird. Okay, I had people sending me their dietary restrictions coming to my house. I wasn't even going to feed them. I had people like just things were happening that were weird. So, I just thought,

this is why the crowd back in St. Lewis won't vote for Exactly. Right. Right. Totally restrictions. Totally.

The devil lives there, so you have to put out a purple sheet. Right. Yeah. It's devil. That'll keep him away.

Jimmy, you need to explain yourself. I was just joking. I I don't remember exactly what I said, but I know I was joking. And um uh and also, our view of your house is not of your front door. It's from the back of your house. So when you then did indeed hang out that which I didn't know until you told me, we didn't even see it and it must have made it even more confusing.

How weird for them. I will also add while we're embarrassing Molly that Oh no. I have suggested um that we invite you over for dinner about 40 times and each time she's not ready for it. Um and then finally on the 4th of July I think we we uh I caught her at a weak moment and uh

for America. Yeah. And but um yeah, there were it was like each time it was like ah like the house wasn't clean enough or there was some reason why it couldn't happen. Yeah,

he's right. I also know I never want to you know what it is. I never want to put people out. I like I know how busy you guys are and I can only imagine the amount of invitations and stuff you get and I also hear Glenn and you talk a lot sometimes about you don't like to do stuff and I was like I don't ever want to make them feel like they have to do something to be our friends. So I try to keep the asks at a minimum.

Yeah. It's not really an ask. It's an invitation. That's different. That's not an ask. Like an ask is like hey I have this thing a buddy of mine he wants it signed. Like that's an ask which by the way we'll never do. Molly, I understand so much.

Come over for dinner is different. No, I get it. I I feel so stressed to invite people over. I always feel like I'm should treat people how I want to be treated. So, I should just never talk to them. I should if the more I like them, I the more I like them, the more I should definitely not ever contact them.

It sounds like just Abby and I should have dinner. Leave it. Probably. Well, you two can cook, too, so you guys can have a nice meal. Well, we did go to your house on the 4th of July and it was just you guys surround yourself with so many wonderful, beautiful people. Like, you have a real I mean, if you guys I'm trying to explain this to the pod squad. There were like 75 people there all who knew Jimmy and Molly for decades. They were all like family or friends forever. Jimmy was like cooking 7 trillion chickens by himself, like just doing it.

And there was food everywhere and kids everywhere and love everywhere. And there was a famous chef also that came and and was cutting up meat. And I was like, must be kind of intense and and intimidating cooking for one of the most famous chefs in the world. Jamie just does it. And he's fine. And it was delicious.

Yeah. You were so Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. You have no idea. That's the only thing he heard this entire podcast.

I'm not kidding. Delicious. He will go home and he'll be like, "Did you hear Abby?"

I'm very critical of my uh cooking. Those chickens came out pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. They were del as hell did.

I had every single piece of meat you cooked. I made ribs as well. I think that makes me so happy. Every single

Jimmy is an an incredible host. He really is. Fourth of July is my favorite holiday, too. So, I like to really go big on the Fourth of July.

Yeah. And including the attire. Yes. And the attire. He loves a tank top. He doesn't love [clears throat] a tank top.

I don't love tank tops. I just like wearing them cuz they drive you crazy. Yeah. An American flag [clears throat] tank top. So hot.

So hot. That's what she thought she was getting with this deal. Yeah. I have another thing that I'm obsessed with y'all on is the pranks. And I'm just wondering, my personal obsession was the one where you had the guy that worked with you and you were you were you got his Ring camera so you knew what he was wearing every day

and then you had the other guy to Okay. Can you either tell that story or tell us what your most recent prank is because this is a new thing I want to bring into my life to

Well, this is have more fun. I have a continuation of that prank which now um unfortunately there's a guy named Danny we work with and he knows about the prank but it turns out that like I've taken a page from Donald Trump like this prank where what what we've done is there's a guy named Danny and a guy named Josh and Danny told Josh that he needs to dress better for work. So, what I did is I I I got an exhaustive list of all of Danny's clothes, photographed all of it, and then ordered duplicates of everything. And then Josh would come into work, he'd he'd check Danny's Ring camera, and he'd come into work dressed just like Danny.

And it started Danny's like, "What? What's going?" He knew something was wrong. Almost immediately, he knew something was wrong, but we just kept doing it and acting like it was nothing. It was making him crazy.

It was making him absolutely crazy. So, what's happening now? Um, just so you know, we're taping this the night before Halloween right?

Yes. Okay. So, on Halloween tomorrow, um, we have colluded to find out what Danny's Halloween costume is. Josh has purchased the same Halloween costume and went over to his house to take a picture with Danny's children.

I know. So Josh is then going to post that on Instagram and let Danny find it and Danny's gonna lose his mind.

The This is what Jimmy does with his very very very little. You have to make time for for things like this.

You really do. This is how we make it through somehow. This is how we make it through

this kind of absurdity. I think you're right. Yeah. I love it. It makes me so happy. It really does. No matter what's going on, no matter how bad it is, it just when there's something like this happening and when somebody's mad, I'm happy.

Jimmy got a personalized Okay. I wanted to get the black license plate, you know, in Los Angeles. I had a black car. It just looks better than the white one that I didn't know.

California style. Yeah. And I really wanted and I just don't have the I don't know how. I was like, Jimmy, he's like, I'll take care of that for you. I'm like, great. Thank you so much. I'll order you a plate. Great. And then several months later, I said, where is this plate? It's not coming. It's not coming. It's not coming.

It took a long time. took a long time. And months later, I walk out to my car one night and his shoulders are just like doing this gentle wiggle. I'm like, "Oh, no, no, no. What's going on?" And I look and my license plate is now a personalized plate screwed on that says, "We be jamming." I was so [snorts] mad, but also so proud of him at the same time. And also just like the headache of how do I get rid of this? I don't know any idea how to get rid of this. And I said, "This is for real." He's like, "Yeah, it's for real. It's real." Like, "This is my license plate.

This is my This is my official license plate." You'll never forget it. I drop the kids off at school with a wee jamming license plate.

She's so mad. It has a history because every once in a while I would get on Molly's phone and comment on all her friends posts. I'd write #we

jammer just out of nowhere. And then they they started to learn. People would like have like posts about like I lost my grandmother years ago today and he'd be like #wejaming.

That's not true. Uh you did on that. Yeah. No, I didn't. Well, if I did do it, it was an accident. I was cutting and pasting.

Yeah. Now people knew. They're like, "Anytime you see we jamming, you know Jimmy has gotten on my phone."

Yeah. I like more on my car. We don't even know where that came from. I do. It came from the song. We be jamming.

We be jamming. Yeah. jamming. We be jamming. It was from uh you know that uh I know the song we be got it. Yep. Got it forever

you guys. Oh god. We love you so much. We want you now to go back to your kids, to your life. Thank you so much for

See, that's her way of saying don't call us. We love you. We love you now. Go back to your life. No, I want you to invite us over. Can you please invite us over dinner?

We will. We will. When you see us go the other way. Um, you've now bullied us into dinner.

By the way, the last time we invited you over, the only time which was um, Fourth of July, Glennon made cookies, brought them, and then brought them home, right?

Is that correct? Yes. But there's a story behind that. You guys, I'm so embarrassed.

We went over this. No, because I was so embarrassed of them. I hid them. I brought them to their house because I felt like you are a grown-up, Glennon. And grown-ups bring things to other grown-ups houses. So, I said to my daughter, "Can you please help me? I've never baked cookies before.

Can you be great on the farm? Can you help me?" And then she abandoned me that day. So, I had to try to make them myself. And they were disgusting and black on the bottom and so burnt. But I still brought them. And then I hid them

well at the party. I hid them because why? Like when you walk in there's just like food.

It was so beautiful. Gorgeous. And it's all beautifully like curated and looking and

I have like a kids plate. It was a kids plate with like aluminum foil over. Whatever happened to a bottle of wine? That's what adults do.

We brought that thinking elementary school. We brought wine also. She just wanted to do something with like a personal touch. Well, you guys, Molly, it was a personal touch.

It was better better than when my my first neighborhood potluck when they sent out a [ __ ] thing where you supposed to sign up for something and it said some people should bring dessert and some people should bring a dish and so I just brought a dish.

No. Wow. That's very literal. Very You know what? Give people some more information. Yeah. If you want to dish with stuff on it, say that. Who did you hand it to?

The the person he was having it and it just what was the reaction? It wasn't great, Jimmy.

I'll tell you what, it was better than her other thing once she learned to make cucumber rolls.

Asparagus rolls. Asparagus rolls. But then she brought asparagus rolls to every single thing for 5 years. We had to do a family intervention and be like,

"No more spare." That's funny. It's a good title for a book. No more spare. When we were leaving your guys' July 4th party, she looks at me and she goes, "I got to take these. I can't leave this. I can't I can't leave these here for somebody to eat and be like, what are those?" And so I took a video cuz I was like, "This is ridiculous." And I took a video of Glennon taking them with her.

I think your mom was there, Jimmy, and she was like, "What are you doing?" And I was like, "I I just trust you. I'm just going to tell you."

Oh, that's great. My mother's a cookie lunatic. Also, she is an incredible baker, so that's even funnier

that she watched. Anyway, we'll do better. Check her cookies up. She's like, "They wanted me to leave the cookies. They should have been more generous."

I say play to your strengths. Don't bake if you can't, you know? Just bring your personality. Asparagus rolls. So,

we do. She would she would roll out that white bread, cut off the grass, put some asparagus in there, roll those bad boys up.

I took a class that Okay. I did. I took a night class to learn that. No, that's not true. That can't be true.

Amanda, your mom and I My mom and took a class to learn how to make something to bring to a party. And we learned asparagus rolls. That's why I did that for 10 years. Oh, that's great.

They should have got your money's worth out of that class. Anyway, I don't think so.

Love to you both. We will see you next time. I promise not to bring anything. Thank you. [clears throat]

Thank you for [snorts] getting us through. Your family is so beautiful and so brave and we're grateful for you every day.

Well, thank you guys for being for your beautiful words and your kindness. We are uh we're delighted to be your neighbors.

Yes. Put that purple sheet up. We love you. All right. Bye. Pod Squad. We Can Do Hard Things is an independent production podcast brought to you by Treat Media. Treat Media makes art for humans who want to stay human. And you can follow us at we can do hard things on Instagram and we can do hard things show on Tik Tok.

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Who speaks in "Jimmy Kimmel & Molly McNearney: What Really Happened"?

Glennon Doyle (Host), Molly McNearney (Guest), Jimmy Kimmel (Guest).

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The conversation features Jimmy Kimmel and Molly McNearney discussing the emotional aftermath of their show's cancellation, sharing their reactions and experiences on that pivotal day. They offer insights into resilience, love, and support during challenging times, providing valuable lessons on bravery and community connection.

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