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Kylie on Her “Feral” College Era, Beef with Dwyane Wade & Jason’s Campus Walk of Shame | Ep. 54

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Kylie on Her “Feral” College Era, Beef with Dwyane Wade & Jason’s Campus Walk of Shame | Ep. 54", an episode of Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce published February 12, 2026 (60 min, about 10,526 words). It mentions 36 people, works and ideas, including Kylie Kelsey, Not Going to Lie, Frank Marshall, Trudy Web, Jason Kelsey.

What this episode is about

Kylie Kelsey discusses her college-era recklessness, a feud involving Dwyane Wade, and a controversial “Campus Walk of Shame,” alongside friends Amber and Gab as they reminisce about past Tinder swipes, college memories, and lessons learned.

Key takeaways

  • Valentine’s Day is less about romance and more about rehearsing candid mic-drops with your best friends.
  • Behind-the-scenes truth bombs often surface fastest in group dynamics where nostalgia outshines credentialed wisdom.
  • Content creators weaponize vulnerability; the fear of 'what's next' becomes the engine, not the brakes.
  • Public faux-embarrassment doubles as a trust exercise—if you survive, your audience earns trust by proxy.
  • Nostalgia modernizes conflicts: college lore, viral moments, and fretful fear all become shareable currency.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Valentine's Day, Not Going to Lie, Real One, Kylie Kelsey
  2. – 10:00: Cabrini University, Covergirl, Real One, Field Hockey
  3. – 15:00: Frank Marshall, Shirley Temple
  4. – 20:00: Covergirl, Cabrini University, Doom Scroll, Mascara
  5. – 25:00: Toyota, Valentine's Day, DoorDash, Toyota Sienna
  6. – 30:00: Kylie Kelsey, Jason Kelsey, Toyota, Doom Scroll
  7. – 35:00: Not Going to Lie, Mummer Strut
  8. – 40:00: Lollipop, Super Bowl, Trudy Web, Bingo
  9. – 45:00: Valentine's Day, Lollipop
  10. – 50:00: Frank Marshall
  11. – 55:00: Transformer
  12. – 59:58: Valentine's Day, Not Going to Lie, Covergirl, Real One

Notable quotes from "Kylie on Her “Feral” College Era, Beef with Dwyane Wade & Jason’s Campus Walk of Shame | Ep. 54"

  • Amber and Gab aka Burn Web, thanks for joining me.
    about Frank Marshall · at
  • The earliest days of my relationship with Jason. This should be fun. Oh no.
    about Jason Kelsey · at
  • Was Oh no. That's it for Real One comment of the week. Next up, we're going to do a segment called, Can I be honest? brought to you by Covergirl.
    about Covergirl · at
  • Bring a little order to it. Now, let's get to our special Valentine's Day edition of Doom Scroll of the Week. Doom Scroll of the Week is brought to you by Toyota. Let's go…
    about Toyota · at
  • And you want a Kylie Kelsey book? Yes.
    about Kylie Kelsey · at
  • Read like a baseball book or a football book. That puts it in like very simple terms. And you could do one for field hockey for like little kids and then I could read it to my…
    about Field Hockey · at
  • Or flip? Oh no. But since we're all technically adults now and recording this for eternity, we're going to play this game with Lollipop.
    about Lollipop · at
  • Tuesday is FFO snowboarding. Make sure to tune in right on NGL YouTube channel. Listen and subscribe to Not Going to Lie wherever you get your podcast. Follow the show on all…
    about Not Going to Lie · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Kylie Kelsey — Person · Host · 3 mentions · first at
    Hosts the Valentine's Day special of 'Not Going to Lie' and drives the episode's stories about college, dating Jason, and her wedding.
  • Frank Marshall — Person · Main guest (friend) · 3 mentions · first at
    One of Kylie's best friends/bridesmaids; provides firsthand accounts of college life, Tinder swiping, and wedding stories.
  • Trudy Web — Person · Main guest (friend) · 2 mentions · first at
    One of Kylie's best friends/bridesmaids; corroborates and adds details to college, dating, and wedding anecdotes.
    Amber and Gab aka Burn Web, thanks for joining me.
  • Jason Kelsey — Person · Referenced spouse / story subject · 2 mentions · first at
    Central to stories about early dating (Tinder, first date, dorm walk-of-shame rumors) and their wedding day moments.
  • Amy Poehler — Person · Referenced celebrity · 1 mention · first at
    Credited (humorously) as inspiration via the show 'Parks and Rec' reference to Galentine's Day.
    Wreck. It's the day before Valentine's Day, and it's meant to celebrate girlhood. So, thank you to Amy Polar for the inspiration. We might as well just keep thanking Amy Polar…
  • Paul Thomas Anderson — Person · Referenced athlete / upcoming content guest · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the Olympian featured in an upcoming snowboarding 'FAFO' episode.
    This month. That's right, you can watch me fall countless times down a bunny hill on a snowboard with Olympian Jamie Anderson. This upcoming Tuesday, February 17th, only on…
  • Philip Seymour Hoffman — Person · Referenced actor (comparison) · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a comedic comparison to describe an awkward dorm encounter scene.
    And it was what's the movie? Anger Management with Philip Seymour Hoffman.

Companies & orgs

  • Cabrini University — Organization · Referenced alma mater / setting · 3 mentions · first at
    Primary setting for the hosts' shared history: field hockey, dorm life, pranks, and early relationship logistics.
    Valentine's Day themed doom scroll and talk about what I was really like as a bride. Plus, we're going to throw it back to our Cababrini days and play an NGL version of Flip Cup. This is going to be so bad.

Products & tech

  • Toyota Sienna — Product · Advertised product · 2 mentions · first at
    Featured in an ad read about minivan life, family logistics, and convenience features.
    The Sienna on so many trips, but I will say the best part has been being able to literally fit our entire sixperson family in this car and the ridiculous things that happen in…
  • Mascara — Product · Referenced beauty product (ad context) · 1 mention · first at
    Used in the Covergirl ad read as Kylie's last-minute pre-record routine and product category.
    Messages from me. The real ones know there's not an episode of this podcast that goes by without me doing my mascara seconds before we hit record. And I wouldn't have it any…
  • Cheetos — Product · Referenced snack product · 1 mention · first at
    Part of a fan-submitted viral moment (bag of Cheetos to the face at the Super Bowl).
    Perfectly in sync. Some other submissions from the fans. Kylie take taking a bag of Cheetos to the face at Super Bowl last year. Yep. Kylie throwing a shoe at Jason during the other podcast with a shoe.
  • Grey Goose — Product · Referenced alcohol product · 1 mention · first at
    Used in a college party anecdote (handle of Grey Goose; drinking at room temperature).
    We got you a handle of Grey Goose the one year.

Concepts & topics

  • Not Going to Lie — Concept · Podcast / show identity · 5 mentions · first at
    The show title and recurring framing device ('NGL announcements', 'Real One comment', 'Truth or flip').
  • Real One — Concept · Audience identity / segment label · 6 mentions · first at
    Used to label fans and structure a recurring segment ('Real One comment of the week').
    Anderson. This upcoming Tuesday, February 17th, only on YouTube. All right, now that's covered, let's get to our real one comment of the week.
  • Doom Scroll — Concept · Recurring segment · 4 mentions · first at
    A Valentine's Day themed segment where they react to TikTok clips and fan content.
    Gets pretty crazy. Door Dash just helps bring a little order to it. Now, let's get to our special Valentine's Day edition of Doom Scroll of the Week. Doom Scroll of the Week is…
  • Field Hockey — Concept · Shared background topic · 3 mentions · first at
    How the friends met (practice, preseason) and a proposed idea for a children's sports book.
  • Mummer Strut — Concept · Local dance reference / recurring joke · 2 mentions · first at
    A recurring comedic motif describing Kylie's dance/entrance style (including wedding entrance).
    Oh. Well, they told us we had to walk in dancing and that's when we looked at each other and we were like mummer strut and then we went in.
  • Shirley Temple — Concept · Referenced drink (non-alcoholic) / flavor · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as Kylie's DD drink on an early date and as a Lollipop flavor.
    To be fair, I was the DD that night and I have said that I had a Shirley Temple that night that Jason tasted it.
  • FAFO — Concept · Show segment / series · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as a prior curling episode and an upcoming snowboarding episode featuring Jamie Anderson.
    First, if you watched our FAFO curling episode, you might have already seen this, but you guys are getting two FFOs this month. That's right, you can watch me fall countless…
  • Transformer — Concept · Personal interest (anecdote) · 2 mentions · first at
    Used as a humorous detail about Kylie (Transformers blankie; Optimus Prime mask; tattoo idea).
    Yeah. You curled up in our closet with your Transformers blankie.
  • Riverdance — Concept · Referenced dance style · 2 mentions
    Referenced as part of Kylie's viral moment and as a preference comparison to the 'mummer strut'.
    I think And when have you seen that before? I like the river dance, but I prefer the mummer strut. I like a good Kylie mummer strut.
  • Numerology — Concept · Comedic framing device · 1 mention · first at
    Used to justify the number of questions in segments (2017 -> 10; 2018 -> 11).
    Numerology tells us we answer 10ish questions about college. So it feels good.

Places & events

  • Valentine's Day — Event · Episode theme · 10 mentions · first at
    Frames the special edition episode and prompts discussion of celebrations, 'doom scroll' ideas, and relationship stories.
    Oh, no. The best Valentine's Day activity is eating chocolate. and my Gallentine this year and every year are my four daughters, little lease and the two women sitting here. My best friends,.
  • Super Bowl — Event · Referenced event · 3 mentions · first at
    Referenced via a viral moment (Cheetos to the face) and timing of a video (after the Super Bowl).
    Perfectly in sync. Some other submissions from the fans. Kylie take taking a bag of Cheetos to the face at Super Bowl last year. Yep. Kylie throwing a shoe at Jason during the other podcast with a shoe.
  • Olympics — Event · Referenced event · 2 mentions · first at
    Referenced via 'Olympian Jamie Anderson' and a teaser about recording from Milan at the Winter Olympics.
    Reminder, I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode from Milan at the Winter Olympics. I can't wait for you guys to find out who our special guest will be. And remember, this Tuesday is FFO.
  • Philadelphia — Place · Referenced city · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced in wedding/bachelorette logistics ('Philly', 'South Philly') and a Phillies game mention.
    Yeah, because we were at our house in South Philly and he drove us downtown.
  • Bingo — Event · Referenced live event activity · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as an NGL/San Francisco event format partnered with Lollipop featuring Caleb Herren.
    You of course by our friends at Lollipop. The event was so much fun. It was very exciting to get to not only play bingo but also to have people win.
  • Bunny Hill — Place · Referenced location (snowboarding) · 1 mention · first at
    Describes where Kylie will be snowboarding/falling in the upcoming Jamie Anderson episode.
    This, but you guys are getting two FFOs this month. That's right, you can watch me fall countless times down a bunny hill on a snowboard with Olympian Jamie Anderson. This…
  • St. Patrick's Day — Event · Referenced event (viral moment) · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as the occasion for a viral moment where Kylie 'river danced'.
    Turns out the real ones disagree from Ruggie Bruh. My favorite Kylie viral moment is when she river danced on St. Patrick's Day.
  • Milan — Place · Referenced travel location · 1 mention · first at
    Teased as the location of a future episode recorded during the Winter Olympics.
    Reminder, I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode from Milan at the Winter Olympics. I can't wait for you guys to find out who our special guest will be. And remember, this Tuesday is FFO.

Media & podcasts

  • Leslie Knope — Character · Referenced fictional character (joke) · 1 mention · first at
    Humorously credited with inventing Valentine's Day/Galentine framing, tying into Parks and Rec references.
    Real quick, for anyone who doesn't know, Valentine's Day was invented by a fictional character named Leslie Nope in one of my favorite TV shows, Parks and Wreck. It's the day before Valentine's Day, and it's meant to celebrate.
  • Parks and Recreation — Media · Referenced TV show · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced (misnamed in transcript) as the origin of the Leslie Knope/Galentine's Day joke.
    Valentine's Day was invented by a fictional character named Leslie Nope in one of my favorite TV shows, Parks and Wreck. It's the day before Valentine's Day, and it's meant to…

Sponsors

  • Covergirl — Company · Sponsor · 6 mentions · first at
    Presented as the episode sponsor and tied to an ad read for mascara and a 'Can I be honest?' segment.
  • Toyota — Company · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at
    Sponsor for 'Doom Scroll of the Week' and featured in an ad read about the Toyota Sienna minivan.
  • Lollipop — Company · Sponsor / event partner · 4 mentions · first at
    Partner for a bingo event and used as the beverage in the 'Truth or flip' game; includes promotional offer.
  • DoorDash — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
    Ad read describing parenting chaos and using DoorDash for food and household deliveries.
    When life happens, Door Dash is always there for me. Like just the other day when the girls were arguing over dinner and we finally came to a conclusion. And of course, it was nothing in the house.

Full transcript with timestamps

I'm not going to lie. I've never been more nervous for an episode. That's right. I am sweating under my armpits like you wouldn't believe because who knows what's going to come out of their mouths that has never been on the internet before. Oh, we're going to believe so much of this episode. Let's get it started. Welcome to the first ever Valentine's Day special edition of Not Going to Lie, a wave original brought to you by Covergirl. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. The movie I absolutely have to watch with my best friends is

I don't know. I feel like we watch movies. We would sit in the living room and shoot the [ __ ]

Yeah, cuz you were playing Tinder. Yeah, we were playing Tinder. Playing Tinder? Oh, no. The best Valentine's Day activity is eating chocolate. and my Gallentine this year and every year are my four daughters, little lease and the two women sitting here. My best friends, bridesmaids, former field hockey teammates. One of them was also my college roommate who has seen a lot of [ __ ] They even advised me on every single Tinder swipe back in the day. And now they're officially not going to lie. Amber and Gab aka Burn Web, thanks for joining me.

Oh no. Oh yeah. Okay. Hey, Queen Emma thought Valentine's Day was a perfect excuse to have you guys on and embarrass me for 60 minutes straight. Suck my ass, Emma. Suck my ass. Um, so we have a group chat that we have had since college. I think if I scrolled back far enough, I could actually get to our college messages, which is concerning. But to be clear, you guys have been sending just like a little I think Gab, I think it was you that sent a couple videos. I've been waiting for a tell all

[ __ ] Oh. Uh, Quino is really chomping at the bit to make sure that she connects with Gab after this episode so we can get these videos on the pod. But I'm going to tell you right now, absolutely not. Real quick, for anyone who doesn't know, Valentine's Day was invented by a fictional character named Leslie Nope in one of my favorite TV shows, Parks and Wreck. It's the day before Valentine's Day, and it's meant to celebrate girlhood. So, thank you to Amy Polar for the inspiration. We might as well just keep thanking Amy Polar until she comes on the show. So, there's that. All right. Coming up on our Valentine's Day episode, we're going to get honest about college. Kylie. Oh, no. With the laughter so bad. It's gonna be so bad.

The earliest days of my relationship with Jason. This should be fun. Oh no. We're also going to do a special Valentine's Day themed doom scroll and talk about what I was really like as a bride. Plus, we're going to throw it back to our Cababrini days and play an NGL version of Flip Cup. This is going to be so bad. But before we get to all that, let's start with a quick NGL announcements. First, if you watched our FAFO curling episode, you might have already seen this, but you guys are getting two FFOs this month. That's right, you can watch me fall countless times down a bunny hill on a snowboard with Olympian Jamie Anderson. This upcoming Tuesday, February 17th, only on YouTube. All right, now that that's covered, let's get to our real one comment of the week.

On last week's episode with Travis, we talked about my favorite viral moment of his, but I said there weren't very many viral moments of my own. At least ones we can talk about. Yep. Turns out the real ones disagree from Ruggie Bruh. My favorite Kylie viral moment is when she river danced on St. Patrick's Day.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. At um the media place. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Was that a foreign concept to you guys?

No. No. I think And when have you seen that before? I I like the river dance, but I prefer the mummer strut. I like a good Kylie mummer strut.

Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna have to We can submit that. We're going to put that video in right here. There's actually a mummer strut that you Gab recorded while we were at a Phillies game and we spin perfectly in sync. Some other submissions from the fans. Uh Kylie take taking a bag of Cheetos to the face at Super Bowl last year. Yep. Uh, Kylie throwing a shoe at Jason during the other podcast with a shoe.

The Princess Cayana jacket. Kylie's commencement speech at Kelsey as your commencement speaker.

Is the two people who know me the best. What is your favorite viral moment of me?

Cayana. Princess Kayana by far. Yeah, because it just keeps [ __ ] coming up. Yes.

Okay, great. I made that my phone background. I wanted that on a t-shirt. I was a little afraid while I was blowdrying my hair. I was thinking to myself, are they about to show up in the t-shirts?

If it fit me, I would have fit. But I it wasn't going to fit. I knew it in my heart, in my brain. I was like, "Oh no." That's it for Real One comment of the week. Next up, we're going to do a segment called, "Can I be honest?" brought to you by Covergirl. Every single time we're like, "Yeah, tell us more." My I start to sweat. Since Burr and Web have known me since we all went to Cababrini together, against my better judgment, we're going to get honest about college. Kylie. Oh god. Yep. And to help the real ones get all the tea, Queen Emma has prepared the questions. Mhm. That's bad. She's nodding her head in the background. So, I graduated in 2017. 2 + 0 + 1 + 7 10.

Numerology tells us uh we answer 10ish questions about college. So it feels good.

Wow. This can't be good. That's a risk. Okay. Number one, how did we all meet for the first time?

Field hockey practice. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Preseason. Yep. Day one. Mhm. That was great. You we became friends when

No, we had a two a day and it was between sessions and you commuted. Yes. And you were like, "Does anyone want to get in my car and go to Waw Wa?" and we jumped in. So very food motivated, easy to kidnap people. We just jumped right in. That's true.

Yeah. How would you describe college Kylie in three words or less? I will say before you guys got here, I had a guess.

Easily convinced. That's a good one. That's two words, but I don't even need three. I'm that good. Yeah.

Three words is hard. You were always down for anything and would be willing to go anywhere.

Down for anything is good. Down for anything. Three words. Yeah. I thought someone was for sure going to say dumbass [ __ ]

I felt like that's like the translation for easily convinced, right? Yes. The BG version. Um, what was college Kylie like at parties? You had like two modes. So, you would be

Oh, no. responsible Uber or I was stopping you from eating Waw Wa mac and cheese off the floor.

Okay. To be clear, I was not going to eat that. I had to. I'm 90% sure I wasn't going to eat the mac and cheese.

I'm 100% sure that if I didn't take it out of your hand, it was going in your mouth.

To be clear, that was SEAC weekend. So, our conference weekend was really, I feel like, the only time that I went balls to the wall in college.

You were feral that weekend. There you have it. We got you a handle of Grey Goose the one year.

Okay. But it tasted like water. Um, and to be clear, I convinced quite a few people to drink that at room temperature. That was that was an accomplishment.

That's a skill. Um, B, you're very quiet over there about parties. I was just there, you know, probably under the stairs crying.

How did you know? How did you know I was going to start there? Burr has a habit. Let me tell you about this. Had a habit.

If she started with wine and ended with beer, you had it. Always ended in tears. Always tears.

No matter what. No matter what. That [ __ ] was banan. You could be so happy and you'd still be crying.

Maybe happy tears. Maybe. That [ __ ] was bananas. But yeah, just wasn't it? Yeah. Just skip it. When you're out of wine, just stop. Like stop.

What songs were blasting on a pregame playlist? It talks about body parts. Um, that's not exciting.

Also a name for a cat. Um, all you ladies pop that that one. Don't just do it. Yeah, that one.

Jason is the Yeah, Jason. Yeah, you guys have been in the truck when that Yeah,

he thought he was funny. This is the thing. You'll know it. And your crack. You know that one?

Yeah. Like, mom. Yep. There you go. That one comes to mind. to play ball. That's the song that comes to mind when you think of me.

No, like pregame warm up, you know. A She does love me. What's the funniest themed party that we went to? I feel like we didn't have that many themes.

The funny thing is is we were into Halloween, but I don't think we ever coordinated.

No, the one year we did. Well, we tried to. What were we? No. What was it? What was it?

We tried to do this and we were like, "This is the year we're going to do a theme." And then I was a ninja turtle. You were Buzz Lightyear.

This track. And what were you a smurf? That feels right. All I remember is that my Buzz Lightyear things wouldn't stay inflated.

I had on a Buzz Lightyear jetpack that wouldn't stay inflated. And so for the entire night, I was trying to recruit people to quote, "We can't keep that."

God, how else are you going to get air? Number four. Is it true that you all used to swipe on Tinder together in the dorms? And were you there the moment Kylie swiped right on Jason?

Um, yes it is true. We did play that game often. Mhm. I was not there when you swiped on him.

I was there after. I feel like I was there. I think so. Probably. To be fair, the apartment that I talk about, I've told this story so many times that we used to sit in quote my friend's apartment, living room, and just swipe and everyone would be swiping together. That was Amber's living room. Uh, and since I was a commuter at the time, we would all meet up in Amber's uh living room of her apartment in the dorms, and her roommates and the three of us would all sit there

and then we'd be like, "Did you get this guy?" Oh, yeah. Did you guys match? Oh, yeah. What did you say? And we would literally play off of each other's comments

to that same person. And they never get there. Notice not once. Geniuses. Gosh. Did you guys have a good feeling about Jason when I swiped right on him?

It I had a feeling it would be a good story either way. And that is why Amber, we had decided, my friends and I, that it was either going to be really funny if it wasn't him and really funny if it was him. This was the deciding factor here. And um, Burr was the sacrificial lamb that came with me the night of because we had to strengthen numbers. You can't go by yourself.

Yeah, everybody knows that. Number five. Did Kylie talk to you guys after the first date where Jason fell asleep at the table?

Gab, what was the full report like the next morning that he fell asleep? Yes. And then it was the antics that went on at the bar. I remember you debated going out with him again.

Yes. And then you finally were like, "Okay, we'll see." Yes. That was it. Like it wasn't It was boring cuz he fell asleep.

It was We were It was underwhelmed. We were a little disappointed, I think, in the report back. Um, I do remember the text the next morning from Burr

when you when you froze up in the in the bushes. I was not feeling very well. Um, to be fair, I was the DD that night and I have said that I had a Shirley Temple that night that Jason tasted it. He said it was refreshing and that's what he remembers from the night. But that I think the only reason he remembers that is because it's the only non-alcoholic beverage that he drank the entire night.

Yeah. And while people were purchasing shots, because I was the DD, Amber was doing a twofer. So

it would have been rude to say no. Like you can't just be like, "Oh, you got this for me. No, thank you."

So I slid it to Burr and she took two for the team. Uh and uh she ended up tossing her cookies.

Yeah. In the bushes the next morning because at least it was the next morning and I was already home. It wasn't like in a car. It wasn't

No, I do appreciate that with that. Yeah. Like I, you know, respectful really. Number six. How did Kylie first introduce you to Jason and what had she told you about their dates up to that point?

I feel like we knew everything. You did? Yeah. I met Jason. We were a part of that relationship. Um, I met Jason at the art museum when I was on a field trip.

Wow. because I had to pick you up. Um because your parents didn't know and we pretended that you slept over my place.

Yeah. Yeah. It was my birthday. I'm And what was your outfit? What was the outfit of choice

on that? Eagle sweatshirt. Yeah. Have a picture of that, too. But didn't you have like tall boots on too?

Uhhuh. I feel like a skirt or something. I can see that. Shorts. just like the they were

oversized sweatshirt. It was my birthday. They were my booty. Okay, we'll insert the picture.

It Dad, we're kidding. Oh, no. Um, Queen Emma wants to know if I told you about when he farted tying his ice skates

immediately when it happened. Yes. Yeah, we got the text. He just farted. Yes, I did. Cuz everyone knows farts are funny. Uh, number seven. There are rumors that Jason had spent the night in the dorms a few times, perhaps even did a walk of shame across Cababrini campus. Can you confirm or deny?

100% confirm. I She's just joking. Um, Gab, would might you remember of a time when you were in our kitchen?

No, this is seared into my mind. Oh, when you walked face into sweaty Jason, all I wanted

shirtless was a snack. I just wanted a nighttime goldfish, a cheese it. Nope. Pitch black. It's just me and you and Jason.

Yes. And it was like, what's the movie? Anger Management with Philip Seymour Hoffman.

I think I say this wrong every time. I think it's I was saying this to Queen Emma, but when we were talking about it yesterday, I think it's a long came Polly when they're playing basketball.

Yes. And Ben Stiller's face just cue the clip. That was 100% what it felt like.

And Jason's just like, "Oh, hey web." And I'm like, I just went right back into my room and went to bed hungry.

Oh gosh. Yep. That happened. Uh, number eight. This is Now, Queen Emma wants to know, "How popular is Kylie? Is she be just being self-deprecating when she said she wasn't cool?" isn't cool is actually what that says.

You were pretty Everyone knew who you were. You were pretty popular. I'd say don't say that just because you want to get on Queen Emma's good side. Don't say that. Was Was I cool?

I mean, I hung out with you. So, yeah, we thought you were cool. That brought my cool points up

obviously big time. To everyone else, we probably weren't cool, but to each other, we were cool.

That's fair. See, that's for sure. And you know, you know who says that? Cool people.

Yeah. I'm just gonna go the opposite. Number nine. Did you guys ever pull I love that queen. I'm gonna put this in. Did you guys ever pull any pranks?

I love a prank. Yeah. Love. We were phenomenal at them. We were so good at them. At some point, I'm not saying that we stole a traffic cone, but that traffic cone ended up everywhere. It was on top of someone's car at some point. We ended up getting it into someone's trunk without them knowing about it, and they found it like a week later.

You were known for a good uh phone call here or there. Oh, Susie J. I don't know about that.

You don't You don't remember. Cue the video. Yeah, I got a video. We were Oh, no.

Perfect. We were calling people and Amber was in the middle of her skit as Susie Jammers. You heard that right, with the Z. I do believe Jammers was with the Z.

Yeah, naturally. And uh in the video you can hear the person go Amber. So we needed to work on our skills. I don't know how much of a prank it was, but there is photo and I believe video evidence of us, we'll call it acquiring

some campus flags. When Gab was a senior, the uh college was switching from a college to a university. And in that transition, they were going to have to replace all of the flags on the light posts around campus. And so

we did community service and we helped get ahead with the approval of public safety.

We did. Yeah. After they were walking by laughing at us, but Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Laughter is

approval. Approval. That's legal. Leg legally. Um, what's the most ridiculous and or embarrassing college Kylie story that you may or may not be able to share on this podcast?

Oh, you would sleep in my closet my What was that my sophomore year? You refused to sleep like a normal person.

It was that the room you shared with me? Yeah. You curled up in our closet with your Transformers blankie.

It was comfortable. Mhm. It was like a crib. Meeting the pair. Nope. Can't share that either.

Yeah. Oh, this is good. We literally can't use any of this. None of this is usable. So, how about that?

That was bad. Oh god. All right, that's it for Can I Be Honest about college, Kylie? Brought to you by CoverGirl. I am sweating profusely. Thank you for asking Queen Emma. We'll be right back with Doom Scroll of the Week after some brief messages from me. The real ones know there's not an episode of this podcast that goes by without me doing my mascara seconds before we hit record. And I wouldn't have it any other way. You can get the ultimate big lash look with CoverGirl Lash Blast Volume Mascara designed to max out every single lash. I love it so much because mascara helps me look awake. And you know what? I'm not.

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like this one. Queen Emma. Oh, they're doing boards. I love this. They're doing they're doing shuchi boards.

This is great. We could never put in that much effort ever. Um, have we ever properly celebrated Valentine's Day together?

No. No. Mm-m. And what would be the perfect Valentine's Day celebration that's the most Kylie Gabber coded?

Um, food for sure. But I feel like this is too much too much preparation. I feel like

like not organized. Not organized. Yeah. Like show up, order a [ __ ] ton of food.

Yeah, absolutely. Sit down. How's it? How's it? Yeah. Talk some [ __ ] Next up, if this isn't peak girlhood, I don't know what is. Queen Emma of the clip, please. The girl with her back to the camera recently got her boobs.

Oh, and they're having a party where she then reveals really I my plan is we're going to end up doing this

in. I already know that. You don't have to tell me that you I want to be clear. You were in whether you wanted to be in or not.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was going to bait you with snacks. Oh, yeah. And then just be like, "Hey, have you seen these?" Um, to be clear, there is a a rough plan that eventually I will put my boobs back where they belong because four kids. That's all I have to say about that. Um, how would you guys react in this situation?

Well, if they look good, yeah, then we'll be honest. Okay, let me be clear. me having a podcast called Not Gonna Lie is uh it was it was perfectly on track from where our friendship started because when I need honesty and I'm talking brutal honesty like people are not like there might be a nice like no that's good but you guys are the ones who receive a text. Is that correct?

That is correct because they're going to tell it how it is. And so I would be a little worried. I'm going to wait until they settle. Okay. Because if I did it fresh out of surgery, Burr would be like, I don't know why they're at your neck. So

Burr would be like, "Let's just fix that real quick." Yeah. She would be like, "Come over here. Let me let me get those down for you."

Um, you guys are in on this though? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, perfect. We'll make a TikTok. We can get a two for one special cuz

we have talked about that for a while. To be fair, in college when we talked about this, we did say a two for one special.

Mhm. Because sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Last on Doom Squirrel. Apparently, I have a bonus Tiny Human Gallentine this year because this little girl appears to be my biggest fan.

Okay. Why are we upset? It's the golden book. And you want a Kylie Kelsey book? Yes.

But all you got was a Kelsey Kelsey brothers. I'm sorry. Can we read it anyway? Kylie's in it.

To be fair, the mom does find the page. You look great enough. Queen Emma said, "Kylie won't answer this, so I'll ask you. Should there be a Kylie Golden book?"

100%. You're an [ __ ] I'll write it. Yes. I have a good idea for a book for you.

You know, listen, let's hear it. You This is what I think. And this is Listen, I have copyrights on this. So, whoever out there steals my plan. I think that people should make sports books for like kids, like young kids that their parents can read to them. Like, if I'm reading to my son, I can read like a baseball book or a football book. That puts it in like very simple terms. And you could do one for field hockey for like little kids and then I could read it to my kid every single day and then it'll just ingrain in their mind, oh, I have to play field hockey because that's what I go to sleep thinking about every night and then that is their life's purpose.

This feels manipulative and I like it. Shout out to this tiny real one's mom at awkward tiff. That's a great name on Tik Tok. Uh, all right, that does it for Doom Scroll of the Week brought to you by Toyota. Next up, we got honest about college Kylie earlier and now according to Queen Emma's rundown, we're going to get honest about bride Kylie. That's right, we're in for a can I be honest double feature today. And I am once again sweating. Jason and I got married in 2018. 2 + 0 + 1 + 8 = 11. 11 is way too many questions, so let's call it sevenish questions. Number one, how did Kylie ask you guys to be her bridesmaids? I actually don't remember this.

I There was like a box. There was like a stuff. I think I have a photo of it actually.

Yeah, I still have the mug little like there's a mug in there. Yeah, there was something. It was There was something tangible.

I think you had already told us and then we didn't you didn't really have any other friends so

we didn't have many options. Default. Tell us everything about the bachelorette party. I love that. What is what this question is is not what Queen Emma thinks she's going to get. Go ahead.

Yeah. Um, do you remember? Yeah. We got our nails done and then we did the wine place.

I love that. There was a bucket of wine. My paint can. Yes. Yes. I walked to Frisco's with that paint can. Yes, you did.

It was lowkey. It was It was It was a day event. It was a lowkey thing. Didn't Jason drive us

to Philly? He might have. Yeah, he did. Yeah, because we were at our house in South Philly and he drove us downtown.

Yeah, it was a good time. Number three, on a scale of one to bridezilla, how was it dealing with Kylie planning a wedding?

It was like, is it going to happen? They picked a date, but it's January. They're saying it's happening in April.

Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of side texting of like, do you think she's actually done anything

that feels? Yeah. In other words, you're saying I was a great bride. Solo maintenance.

Um, this is my I love this question so much. How did you guys meet the groomsmen? And by groomsmen, I mean groomsman.

The night before. I have no recollection recollection of how I actually met Travis. I do think there was a to be clear um and we can put up a wedding photo here. Uh I had four bridesmaids. I had my sister, my cousin Marissa, and the two of you. That was it. And Jason had Travis and that was it. Um we if it's not clear enough, we are not particularly organized individuals and so we didn't care about matching. That was not a concern of ours. And I think you guys each walked down the aisle independently.

Yes. Which Travis walked Donna down and sat her in her seat, right? Yeah. Yeah.

And then all of you guys walked on independently. Yes. Yeah. It was a good time. We were chill.

Um, what was your first impression of Travis? I literally I know I met him before the wedding. I don't remember when I met him, but his issue with condiments, like

you took beef with that. Yeah, I definitely took beef with that. I was just like, hm. Like, you need condiments.

Um to make food taste better. Yeah. Like you you do just need it. Um but I don't remember when. I probably met him like at a game or something like

Oh, you might have. Yeah. Mhm. Um, but yeah, the condiments thing. Didn't know if I could trust him after that.

I just feel like she's dead serious. Naughty and sneaky. Naughty and sneaky. Uh,

maybe that's where I got it. Um, were there any choreographed dances? No. No. Oh. Well, they told us we had to walk in dancing and that's when we looked at each other and we were like mummer strut and then we went in.

Oh. Into the reception. That was it though. Yeah. Yeah. I will say we our wedding I feel like appropriately conveyed us as people.

Mhm. There was good food. There was good music. But other than that, we showed up and that was a win. Bur and I had a blast when we were getting ready. Do you remember accidentally walking in to the Miami Heats breakfast

when we were in Nothing But Rose? Thank you so much for bringing this up. So, I actually am on record with our team, our not going to lie team by sharing with them that I have a long-standing beef with Dwayne Wade that, you guessed it, Dwayne Wade actually knows nothing about. Um, and to be clear, I would like your I would like you guys to weigh in on this cuz I feel very strongly about this. We were going down for the wedding.

Mhm. Right. So, everyone is I am in a wedding dress with a veil on the back of my head. Every all we have all four bridesmaids and the wedding planner, Sarah, in the elevator with us. And we just so happened to get on the elevator with Dwayne Wade. And here's the problem that I have with that. He didn't say a goddamn word, which is crazy. There was a bride and her bridesmaids in the [ __ ] elevator with you. You are in an enclosed space. And then you didn't say a word.

He probably was like regretting every step he took to get on that elevator. He was probably sitting there like, "Why didn't I just let the door close?"

That [ __ ] blew my mind. Yeah. Okay, just thinking realistically, if you guys were to get into an elevator

with a bride and four bridesmaids, what's happening? I'd be like, "Oh my god, are you getting married? This is so exciting. Are you in love?

Are you in love?" You would ask. Cuz if you're not, I'll drive the getaway car.

Like, are you sure? I can I can help you if you need it. Um, yeah, I would definitely.

She says as a happily married woman with her second child on the way. Hey, are you good? Do you want me to take you away from here? Far, far away.

Listen, you should always double check, right? Like, you got to make sure. I mean, I do feel like we all had that like hey

last chance. Yeah. I'll get you out of here like it never happened. What do you want?

Do you want to run or do you want to do a shot? Let's do it. Right. Maybe he thought you were running and was like, I can't.

Oh, don't want to bring it up. Yeah, sure. We'll go with that. That's so nice of you, Gab. Uh, what was Kylie like on the wedding day? Was I calm, anxious? You were calm.

You were chilling. Yeah. Oh, you were. I got a video of you two dancing while you're eating a bag of chips. We were watching something out the window.

Out the window. There was a lot of entertainment at the fountain. Yeah. Um, there was a lot going on out there.

Yeah. You were calm. You were just um at some point you did help me adjust my Spanx cuz you got a picture of

No, cuz your um belly button ring. Yeah. I had to take it out. Is that what you were doing?

Yeah. Huh? Yeah. There is a photo of me holding my boobs into my dress. Burr's hands completely in the dress with me. And of course, Gab was capturing it for later.

Yeah. Um Yeah. No, it was the uh the ring. You were you were very calm. I feel like um the only concern was like looking natural. Like you didn't want to you didn't want to look like someone that you weren't. Um, that was the biggest concern of the day.

Um, but you did look beautiful, so it all worked out. Thanks, guys. Um, I will say we we nailed the coordination because our wedding lacked luster, we'll call it. Uh, we did nail the coordination of the entrances.

Oh, for Burr's wedding. Oh, yes. Now, Amber, in true Amber fashion, got married on April Fool's Day. And so, the entrances into her wedding, first of all, instead of her coming down the aisle first, there was a clown on a unicycle. I'm not kidding. That's not I'm not exaggerating. That for real for real happened. And then the entrances into the reception. What were you guys?

Uh, do you say the inflatable pigs? No, we were the dinosaurs. The drunk people with the dinosaurs. Yes.

But this was a surprise to you. You had no idea we were doing this. I had no idea.

Um, that was a stellar lineup. I was a gorilla and my partner was a banana in a full gorilla suit with heels.

Um, Chloe was flying pigs. Chloe was the pigs. Inflatable pigs. Yeah. Cuz you always said that you would get married when pigs fly.

Yes. Yes. Um, and then for Gab's wedding, we got to give a joint toast. Oh, that was good.

That was epic. Yeah, we had props. We did our props and I felt like we kind of nailed it.

Yeah. Yeah, I felt good about that. There were handcuffs involved. Mhm. It was fun.

There was a whistle. Yeah, there was a whistle. Oh, a safety vest. A safety vest. Cuz Gab's driving is [ __ ] It's garbage.

I literally Wait, when I was just parking here, I thought like, oh, let me make sure like I give Gab enough room.

I was parking and I was like, they literally made me park last. It's not good. Yep. What was it like witnessing the viral moment from the wedding? And Queen Emma has the clip right here. It's Aunt Judy.

There is anyone in attendance who has caused to believe that this couple should not be joined in marriage, just shut the [ __ ] up.

Oh yeah. She is a legend. Shout out to Aunt Judy. The best Kelsey. Everybody knows that. Um, my favorite part of this clip, and I don't know if you can see it in that social clip, but my favorite part is that she had mentioned doing this at the rehearsal the night before.

And so all four bridesmaids when she starts to say it, everybody looks right at the audience to be like, "Yeah, [ __ ] wait for it." It was so like the anticipatory like, "You guys aren't going to believe this shit." was so good. Um, what was it like witnessing that? It was on. Yeah,

it was on par. Lived up to the hype. Number seven. What was your favorite moment from being a bridesmaid in our wedding?

I liked the night before after the rehearsal dinner when we had to go find your marriage license.

I might have might have forgotten that. It was like 11 or something. We got back from the Reading Terminal and you were like, I don't have these papers. Come on. And we got in your car and tore apart your house till we found them. That was fun.

I don't even remember that. Yeah, I have the video of you in the lower Marian dog costume because it was after the Super Bowl.

Yeah. For underdogs and you're dancing with the mascot head on as Kylie is trying to

um All right, that's it for Can I Be Honest Part Two. We'll be back in roughly 3 minutes with a game you're not going to want to miss. Spoiler alert, it involves Flip Cup. Oh no. I had the best time last week in San Francisco ahead of the Super Bowl and one of the highlights was most definitely our NGL and so true bingo event with Caleb Herren brought to you of course by our friends at Lollipop. The event was so much fun. It was very exciting to get to not only play bingo but also to have people win. And not only win but they won cases of lollipop and other prizes but cases of lollipop. It was such a good time. And also Caleb, you guessed it, carried the team on his back. And who was the team?

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or flip? Oh no. But since we're all technically adults now and recording this for eternity, we're going to play this game with Lollipop. Shout out to Lollipop and not beer. First of all, I don't even like beer. I don't you

It's okay. Yeah, you do like beer. I did. I did. She dabbled. I did. I dabbled.

Uh, but the stakes are as high as ever because in the middle of this table, we have a pile of questions written by the NGL team. These questions are really for Gab Burr, and I don't want to be left out, so I'll flip cups alongside you guys. God damn it. This is going to be great. I'm so excited. Should each person get at least one pass? We'll say one pass.

Or are the questions about you? Are they about me? Mostly. Okay. I think we should all get a pass just for safety.

I think we should get a pass for safety. All right. We'll get a safety pass, but we don't have to use that.

God damn it. Okay. What are the stakes? What do they win? What does the person who wins win? What does the winner win? What do you guys want? Because I'm going to lose and so this is what would benefit the two of you.

You have to do an episode in your full-on beauty pageant. You're a [ __ ] You're a [ __ ] [ __ ]

Tiara and Sash. I don't even think I have it. I trust Queen Emma to find you a new outfit.

[ __ ] Or you could go to like one of the times we modeled and pull out one of those.

Stop talking. Oh my god. I knew this is going to be a problem. Before there was Cayana, there was Kylie and Center City Macy's.

Oh my god. I forgot about that. With the me, you and the ball girl talking. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. I don't think there's photo evidence.

Yeah, there is. I'll send it to him. Mother. Yeah, we're going to be besties. Oh,

my world is crashing. Everything's falling apart. Okay. All right. Here we go. Okay.

It's down, up, down. I thought it was Cheers. Down, up. Cut this. Can't wait to see the blooper reel. Down, up, down.

I win. Does Kylie have any nicknames? the world does not know about. Not me waiting desperately to see if they remember.

Um Oh, no. I don't know if this is a silly that we were just talking about. I don't know if this was a nickname or like this was like self-proclaimed.

Oh no. What the What is this? you. That was self-proclaimed. Amber Marshall Bonjouro. They're going to have to cut that, I think.

THAT'S A PASS. THAT is a pass. [ __ ] you. And that's a pass. Here we go. Oh, wow. Wow. What was nickname?

It's about to get ruthless up in here. All right. Down. I win. Are they going to answer this?

Yeah. How long on average does it take Kylie to respond to texts? Oh my lord. 3 to 6 months at times. Well, after how many follow-ups?

Yeah, that's a good question. And also depends on the time. Like, we can get you sometimes when the kids go to sleep. You got to be strategic.

Yeah. Yeah. When I'm rolling, we're in. Yeah. If it's like emergency call. Thank you.

Yeah. Thank you. Also, seven to 10 business days. Okay. Okay. A lot more questions. It's a lot of bubbles. We're just going to have to switch to water.

Nailed it. Dang it. She didn't even mind. I got there. Okay, we can't even answer that. Nope. Pretty sure we can't answer this. Funniest thing that happened at Jason and Kylie's wedding. Let's just let's just run with it and then we'll bleep all of it. Great.

Funniest funniest thing that happened at Jason and Kylie and Jason's wedding. Um, where does your brain go? That it I feel like we're in the same place.

Why are you biting your lips? Just thinking. Okay. I feel like the dance floor um specifically

um say it. There was who almost showed her. Also funny when I almost had to We won't tell you who, but when I almost had to punch.

Yeah, I forgot about that. That was not good. Didn't even touch my cow. Oh, what NGL guest are you the most shocked agreed to sit down with, Kylie? I feel like

like personal attack not surprised they agree to talk to you, but it's I think it's as your friend who's known you since before the podcast. It's very weird

to see you interviewing certain people that we're fans of. Okay, tell me who. Oh, I freaked out over Well, Alona Mar, big fan of her.

Um Michelle Obama. Yeah. What the [ __ ] Oh, yeah. That was shocking. Yeah. Yeah. The [ __ ] are you doing? Um like Averil Lavine, Demi Lovado. Yep.

All them. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. But you're great. That's good. Okay. But you're great.

She'll tell me later how I'm not We're just going to make B away with these. Mhm. Well, it's staying humble, Kylie.

Is that right? Yeah, we helped you do that. [ __ ] That's why I love you. What if anything has ch has changed about Kylie since she became Emma wrote LOL on this. So, I just want to be clear. It says LOL, a total celeb. This was not my words. I would not call myself that. I wouldn't even call myself a Z-lister. I'm good. What is the answer to the question?

What about you has changed? If anything, I'd say nothing. Um, I think your like accessibility like just you're busier.

Oh, yeah. Um, and I have to be more careful just like showing up at your house. Like

you think security is going to take you out? Well, sometimes like remember when Wyatt was like there's somebody at the window and you're like don't make eye contact. She's like, "No, I think it's hamper." And you were like,

"That's true. Our kids our kids are trained now. Like when someone knocks on the door, they all do what we were trained to do when we were growing up, which is

sling down. Sling down." I would like the record to show that Gab said nothing. Gab said

off the accessibility, it's like being friends with Where in the World is Carmen? San Diego or remember that game? Yes. cuz I'll be scrolling on Twitter and it's like, "Oh, she's in the Artor's tent with Tom Cruz. Oh, she met the royal family." It's just like, "Okay."

I do love those texts when it's typically like, "Hey, Kai, anything you want to tell us?" I'm like, "Uh, I don't know. Not today." You're like, "Where the [ __ ] are you?" And I'm like, "Man, yeah, I don't know. Oh [ __ ] I forgot what we were doing there. I'm crushing it right now.

I'd like that to be known. Oh, the bottom of this says, "It's getting sincere in here."

Uhoh. Oh no. What makes Kylie such a great friend? I'm not I don't even answer a [ __ ] text.

H That can be the answer. You can say what she said. Um I think it's that you genuinely care like

like to invest time in your friends and like genuinely care about like what does go on in our lives whether it's like minuscule or big.

Yeah. Like like just a normal normal friend. Yeah. You're just always someone that you can go to and talk to and you know no matter what it is there's no judgment, anything like that and there's a sincere sometimes abrasive response.

Gab likes to use that word against me because I've been called abrasive once or twice in my life.

Um, do we just rapid fire some of these questions now? Love it. Rapid fire. Okay. What is something maybe only Kylie's close friends know about her? Um, have you talked about your Transformers obsession?

Nope. Oh, thank you for bringing that. You had the uh Optimus Prime voice changing mask.

Yep. And that was the only tattoo you've ever wanted. Uh-huh. It is. These are all facts.

Describe Kylie's dorm room as honestly as possible. Oh my god. Like a disaster.

Yeah. You had a sofa bed so you and Jason could be comfortable. Yeah, but remember like it was like messy.

It was just moving the piles of Yes. Crap. I live my life in piles. Yes. Yeah, I do. I

I mean, look at my house now. I live my life in piles. Yes. To be fair, my ADHD allows me to compartmentalize and decide which pile is it's in and how far down it is. And I've been that way my whole life. So,

Yep. Yeah. Not wavering on that one. That tracks memory from college. You won't let each other live down. GH

I do think there's something special about we could recall. I would say the vast majority of the crazy [ __ ] that happened in college. And by crazy [ __ ] I just mean like the everyday [ __ ] we were doing in college. And I I don't think it's any crazier or less crazy than other college experiences. We could very easily be like fairly even for just like like either ridiculous stories or things we're like, "Hey, maybe let's let's not tell our kids about them."

And there's like Gab said, no judgment whatsoever. Yeah. Yeah. We'll tell the girls later on.

Yeah, that's fine. I'll probably tell them too. What is something you're shocked Kylie actually said on this podcast? They wouldn't know. They don't watch the podcast.

I watch, but I'm not shocked by anything that you've said. Yep. Cuz you're always a little unfiltered.

A little. That was very nice. You said a little. Yeah. Wow. Mhm. Do you watch? Yeah. But I I wouldn't say shocked that you actually said. I would say maybe sometimes I'm shocked with things that you don't say like like I'll be shocked like you took a gentle approach on that one. Like

because I've said what I needed to say in the group chat. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.

Yeah. And like sometimes it's weird when you like tell a story like the one story. remember when Jason was on like SNL?

Yes. Um I don't know. I think you told it on the podcast. Um but you were like telling the story about like that time that happened. I'm like, "Oh yeah, I remember those texts." Like,

yeah, I was murdered. Did you honestly think Jason was the one when they first started dating?

Did I think that about him? No, probably not. Not right away. He fell asleep on the table.

Oh, okay. So, not after the first not after the first time meeting him, right? I think after the bear incident, I was like, "All right, there's a chance."

Um, so Jason is still in my phone as Grizzly for those who don't know. Legitimately his contact in my phone. We can pull this up. Uh, here we go. Don't take his phone number though. Uh, my husband is in my phone as Grizzly because we, Amber and I had a radio show at school that we called him the bear in the woods, which I'm still not sure how we ended up with that

cuz he looked like one. I don't know. But in the woods was a tree. That's It feels a little redundant,

right? Um, no. Squirrel. Squirrel and tree was Yeah. What was ours? Turnup Tuesday.

It was turnup Tuesday. Gosh. Yeah. What a time. The time to be alive. That's when you thought.

No, I was saying she's talking about a different time. Valentine's Day bear. Let me send it to your house.

Oh, talk about a full panic. That was fun. Wow. Mhm. Cuz your your mom got it and just put in your room.

Yes. And didn't say anything. Didn't say a word. And then you texted us and you were like, "OMG." And we were like, "Yeah, she knows." She definitely saw that and definitely read it. And

And now she knows. And Lisa is smart enough. She actually searched the phone number. So she was like, "What are you doing talking to someone in Ohio?"

Mhm. They didn't know though for like two more months. I know. We We did a good job.

It was It was a while. But I feel like that was like a bold move. Like I was like, "Okay." Like, you know, maybe he's here for

he's here for it. Yeah. So maybe after that I was like, "All right." Yeah. I think I think the assumption at the beginning was that it was all fun and games.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And by that I mean we were just having fun. Yeah. For sure.

And then then all of a sudden then all of a sudden I was like, "Ah, shoot. We're hanging out like two, three days a week. Sometimes two days in a row.

Yeah. Once he hit that in a row. Yeah. In a row was the big that was like the threshold where I was like, "Ah, shoot."

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Well, there's that. All right. I think we got through all the questions we could. That's a wrap on Truth or Flip. And that's a wrap on OUR VALENTINE'S DAY SPECIAL. YAY. UM, thank you to Amber and Gab for joining. Uh, I mean, I feel like you guys are going to have approximately 5 minutes of usable footage from this

because we had a little bit of roasty toasty time. Uh, reminder, I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode from Milan at the Winter Olympics. I can't wait for you guys to find out who our special guest will be. And remember, this Tuesday is FFO snowboarding. Make sure to tune in right on NGL YouTube channel. Listen and subscribe to Not Going to Lie wherever you get your podcast. Follow the show on all social media, NGL with Kylie. Not going to lie is a wave original brought to you by CoverGirl. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in.

You posted the van. Yeah, when your friends they get onto the Cababrini shuttle. Jesus Christ.

With her leaving Jason. Oh yeah, that was the outfit. That one's remember what I mean.

Oh yeah, that was straight out of Compton. [ __ ] Straight out of [ __ ] [ __ ] Heat. Heat.

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Kylie Kelsey discusses her college-era recklessness, a feud involving Dwyane Wade, and a controversial “Campus Walk of Shame,” alongside friends Amber and Gab as they reminisce about past Tinder swipes, college memories, and lessons learned.

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