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BUCS LOOK BAD ON TNF, SHERRONE MOORE FIRED + DAN ORLOVSKY BREAKS DOWN THE CURRENT NFL
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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "BUCS LOOK BAD ON TNF, SHERRONE MOORE FIRED + DAN ORLOVSKY BREAKS DOWN THE CURRENT NFL", an episode of Pardon My Take published December 12, 2025 (2 h 59 min, about 38,594 words). It mentions 596 people, works and ideas, including NFL, Pardon My Take, Dan Orlovski, Drake May, DraftKings.
What this episode is about
The discussion covers the struggles of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers following their underwhelming performance on Thursday Night Football, with a focus on Kirk Cousins' impressive record against them. Additionally, the firing of Sherrone Moore and analysis of NFL developments by Dan Orlovsky are highlighted, along with the upcoming week 15 game predictions and promotions related to Game Time.
Key takeaways
- Rams' disqualification fueled by impossible math: sports fans bemoan betting heartbreak.
- Kirk Cousins is 'Captain Buc-stacular': 11 TDs, one pick, and up for pounds of dough.
- Panthers facing division clincher: are Saints ready to play spoiler this Sunday?
- Kyle Pitts breaks out: mirrors Shannon Sharpe's flair only when Falcons fail.
- Buccaneers' Creamsicle style can't disguise their sour performance: stars stranded in NFL abyss.
Who speaks in this episode?
- PFT Commenter (Host) · 1 h 8 min speaking
- Big Cat (Host) · 57 min speaking
- Hank Lockwood (Host) · 21 min speaking
- Max Dolente (Host) · 18 min speaking
- Zach (Host) · 11 min speaking
- Dan Orlovsky (Guest) · 32 min speaking
- TJ (Guest)
- Shane ("Matt Memes") (Guest) · 2 min speaking
What is discussed, and when
- – 15:00: Falcons, Panthers, Atlanta Falcons, Kirk Cousins
- – 30:00: Michigan, Michigan, Chiron Moore, NFC South
- – 45:00: Drake May, Josh Allen, Titans, Titans
- – 1:00:00: Ravens, Jim Harbaugh, Steelers, Texans
- – 1:15:00: Commanders, Pat Mahomes, Giants, Jaden Daniels
- – 1:30:00: Cardinals, Matthew Stafford, Matthew Stafford, Matthew Stafford
- – 1:45:00: Philip Rivers, Packers, Broncos, Packers
- – 2:00:00: Twisted Tea, Twisted Tea, Twisted Tea, Seattle Seahawks
- – 2:15:00: Buffalo, Sam Darnold, Super Bowl, Green Bay
- – 2:30:00: Animal Champion Warrior Legend, High school football, Connecticut, Eagles
- – 2:45:00: Super Bowl, Jaguars, Dallas Cowboys, Dallas
- – 2:58:38: Notre Dame, Firefest, Math problem, El Camino
Notable quotes from "BUCS LOOK BAD ON TNF, SHERRONE MOORE FIRED + DAN ORLOVSKY BREAKS DOWN THE CURRENT NFL"
On today's Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. It is the week 15 picks and preview. We also have our good friend Dan Orlovski on the show talking ball.
about Dan Orlovski · atWelcome, to, part, of, my, take, presented, by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, December 12th and Kirk Cousins is back. Is he him? I'll tell you what Kirk Cousins might have another hundred.
about Pardon My Take · atThat was quite a day. Shiron Moore, head coach of Michigan, gets fired for cause. So, the alleged affair with his executive assistant and then within like an hour of him getting fired, he.
about Chiron Moore · atAnytime TD live bets, every play, every snap, every game matters. Missouri listeners, listen up. DraftKings Sportsbook is now live in the Show Me State. Here's the best part.…
about DraftKings · atHalf point underdogs. Overunder is 49 a half. Did Hank, that in their matchups, Drake May is 3-0 against the spread versus Josh Allen?
about Drake May · atGet to hear the guys talking about what they're looking at, how they're evaluating it. And he was The NFL is never going to do that because they like having a little curtain there.
about NFL · atDid, you, know, that, Philip, Rivers obviously returning for the Colts this week?
about Philip Rivers · atIf their team is good around them they're winning a Super Bowl. I got then quote tweeted, sent everywhere, NFL people saying, I don't know ball. all I'll say is I think Russell…
about NFL · at
Who and what is mentioned in this episode?
People
- Dan Orlovski — Person · Guest expert · 2 mentions · first at
Former NFL quarterback providing analysis on current NFL games and players. - Drake May — Person · Referenced player (NFL QB) / major segment topic · 12 mentions · first at
A long discussion centers on Patriots-Bills, 'torch passing,' MVP chatter, and Drake May’s stats/yardage discourse. - Chiron Moore — Person · Referenced coach (breaking scandal/news) · 4 mentions · first at
Central to the Michigan ‘oopsie’ segment: discussed as being fired and jailed amid allegations; hosts cite reporting and speculate about program implications. - Philip Rivers — Person · Referenced expert · 12 mentions · first at
Former NFL quarterback mentioned in the context of returning to play for the Colts. - Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (game-of-week centerpiece + MVP joke) · 6 mentions · first at
Central to Lions–Rams preview (Goff/Stafford trade narrative, current form with Puka) and also used as a recurring joke as the ‘real MVP’ over Drake May/Josh Allen.If, they, win,, they're, up, to, 72%, to, get in. Yeah. If they lose, they're down to 40% to get in. Yeah. the old Jared Goff Matt Stafford game this matchup again both, teams…
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (NFL QB) / key game preview figure · 5 mentions · first at
Central to Lions-Rams preview and an ongoing joke about MVP; praised for connection with Puka Nacua and current form.Cardinals Rams game last week, which I don't blame you because it was such a blowout. Puka and Matthew Stafford, the way they're playing football right now it's the old Dan…
- Kirk Cousins — Person · Referenced expert · 4 mentions · first at
NFL quarterback discussed for his performance against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.Talk about that, Max. Yeah. I'm trying to give the Patriots their flowers right now. Shout out Kirk Cousins. 300 yards today.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (QB) / MVP & marquee matchup anchor · 4 mentions · first at
Appears in MVP talk and as the centerpiece of Lions-at-Rams preview; praised for elite passing connection with Puka Nacua and framed as a top MVP candidate in-show.Think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
- Josh Allen — Person · Referenced player (major discussion point) · 9 mentions · first at
Key counterpart to Drake May in the Bills–Patriots preview; discussed via December performance trends and milestone stats (approaching 300 career TDs).Last week with the Packers. They're one of these teams that gets better late as the season goes along. And Josh Allen is four touchdowns away from 300 career touchdowns, which…
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (Rams–Lions preview; MVP joke) · 5 mentions · first at
Key to the Lions-at-Rams 'revenge trade' storyline and praised for current form with Puka; also used in MVP/Heisman-style joking.Think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (QB) / Rams-Lions game & MVP joking thread · 5 mentions · first at
Appears in Rams-Lions preview and in a running joke about MVP/awards; also referenced as playing extremely well with Puka Nacua.Think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (Rams focal point / awards talk) · 5 mentions · first at
Appears in Rams-related discussion (Rams-Lions preview) and as a running MVP-joke candidate; praised for connection with Puka Nacua.Think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (Rams focus; awards jokes) · 5 mentions · first at
Appears in Rams-centric discussion (Rams-Lions game) and in a running MVP/awards bit where he’s jokingly framed as leading the MVP race.Think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (Rams/Lions game + MVP jokes) · 4 mentions · first at
Central to Rams–Lions preview and praised for connection with Puka Nacua; also appears in running MVP joke thread.Cardinals Rams game last week, which I don't blame you because it was such a blowout. Puka and Matthew Stafford, the way they're playing football right now it's the old Dan…
- Daniel Jones — Person · Referenced player (jersey-number anecdote) · 3 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the Philip Rivers return bit: Jones is on IR and gives Rivers permission to wear #17, adding humor and context to the Colts situation.He, gets, number, 17, from, Daniel, Jones, which is very funny. So, Daniel Jones is on IR cuz he tore his Achilles and Daniel Jones was asked, Phil Rivers texted him and Daniel Jones replied.
- Kyle Pitts — Person · Referenced expert · 2 mentions · first at
NFL tight end discussed for his performance and potential.That's, what, it, looks, to, me., Could be wrong, but it's a it was a big loss for the Bucks tonight. And we got the Kyle Pittz game.
- Sam Darnold — Person · 2 mentions · first at
Yeah., So, the, big, thing, for, Sam,, which was his issue before, is he's so gifted and talented early in his career that he would I would the way I would say it is like just because you.
- Pat Mahomes — Person · 9 mentions · first at
Gotten home, but they should get home against a Chargers team that can't block. I think Mahomes's going to maybe do the dink and dunk down the field.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced expert · 4 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the context of his performance with the Rams.Cardinals Rams game last week, which I don't blame you because it was such a blowout. Puka and Matthew Stafford, the way they're playing football right now it's the old Dan…
- Matthew Stafford — Person · 4 mentions · first at
Think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
- Jaden Daniels — Person · Referenced player (QB) in injury/status discussion · 3 mentions · first at
Appears in the Commanders–Giants preview; hosts discuss whether he is playing and criticize the decision to play him while injured.Nope., We're, going, to, We're, going, to, get that elbow healthy. Why the [ __ ] was Jaden Daniels playing last week if he was going to land on his arm and just reinjure it? That makes no sense to me.
- Daniel Jones — Person · Referenced player (QB) / roster-note punchline · 3 mentions · first at
Mentioned as being on IR with an Achilles tear and giving Philip Rivers jersey #17; also part of Colts QB-room storyline.Yeah., If, you're, Daniel, Jones,, you, got, to be wait, what the [ __ ] You, were, talking, to, him, every, week.
- Drake Maye — Person · 2 mentions · first at
Half point underdogs. Overunder is 49 a half. Did Hank, that in their matchups, Drake May is 3-0 against the spread versus Josh Allen?
- B.J. Robinson — Person · 2 mentions
- Todd Bowles — Person · Referenced expert · 1 mention · first at
NFL head coach discussed for his coaching style and team performance.What are your honest thoughts about Todd BS?
- Andy Reid — Person · 1 mention · first at
Andy, Reed's, on, his, way, out., Kelsey's, on his way out. Tyreek Hill walking through that door.
- Trey Hill — Person · 1 mention · first at
Andy, Reed's, on, his, way, out., Kelsey's, on his way out. Tyreek Hill walking through that door.
- Shane Stiken — Person · Referenced coach (scheme/connection) · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned in the Philip Rivers segment: Rivers reportedly ran Steichen’s offense for a high school team and they spoke weekly, implying preparation/fit for an emergency NFL start.Yeah., And, on, top, of, that,, we, got, the report that Philip Rivers is running was running Shane Stiken's offense for the high school team he was coaching. They were talking every week.
- George Pickens — Person · 1 mention · first at
Georgie, Bounceback, is, one, of, the, two that I'm looking at.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (joke/MVP chatter) · 6 mentions · first at
Appears in a comedic MVP/awards riff and also in the opening picks banter (“Rams minus six”).I, think, it, mattered, a, little, bit., I think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (QB) in MVP/awards discussion · 5 mentions · first at
Used as a comparison point in a comedic/contrarian MVP conversation, tied to broader QB award narratives.Think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
- Matthew Stafford — Person · Referenced player (QB) in awards bit · 4 mentions · first at
Used as a comedic/contrarian MVP front-runner in their awards discussion framing (Stafford vs Drake May/Jordan Love/Josh Allen).It's, Stafford, right, now,, Drake, May, Jordan Love, Josh Allen. Those are the four.
- Jim Harbaugh — Person · 4 mentions · first at
All right., Do, you, think, you, think there's any possibility we would see John Harbaugh leave and go to Michigan?
- Dan Campbell — Person · Referenced coach / game preview · 4 mentions · first at
Key to Lions-Rams preview: framed as a “desperate” coach likely to go for many fourth downs; also tied to usage surge for Jahmyr Gibbs.And, Kirby, Joseph, might, not, play, I, don't know but the defense is going to be an issue for them. Dan Campbell just doesn't seem phased by it. He was just We're good. We…
- Daniel Jones — Person · Referenced player (QB) / roster-joke context · 3 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the Philip Rivers segment: Jones is on IR and 'gives' Rivers jersey number 17; used for humor and to underline the Colts QB chaos.He, gets, number, 17, from, Daniel, Jones, which is very funny. So, Daniel Jones is on IR cuz he tore his Achilles and Daniel Jones was asked, Phil Rivers texted him and Daniel Jones replied Heck yeah, go for it.
- Daniel Jones — Person · Referenced player (QB) / supporting detail · 3 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the Philip Rivers segment as the player who gave Rivers jersey number 17; also noted as being on IR with an Achilles tear.He, gets, number, 17, from, Daniel, Jones, which is very funny. So, Daniel Jones is on IR cuz he tore his Achilles and Daniel Jones was asked, Phil Rivers texted him and Daniel Jones replied Heck yeah, go for it.
- Daniel Jones — Person · Referenced player (Giants QB) / jersey-number anecdote · 3 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the Philip Rivers storyline: Jones is on IR and gives Rivers permission to wear #17, adding humor and context to the Colts situation.He, gets, number, 17, from, Daniel, Jones, which is very funny. So, Daniel Jones is on IR cuz he tore his Achilles and Daniel Jones was asked, Phil Rivers texted him and Daniel Jones replied Heck yeah, go for it.
- Daniel Jones — Person · Referenced player (injury / anecdote) · 3 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the Philip Rivers storyline as being on IR with an Achilles tear and giving Rivers jersey number 17.He, gets, number, 17, from, Daniel, Jones, which is very funny. So, Daniel Jones is on IR cuz he tore his Achilles and Daniel Jones was asked, Phil Rivers texted him and Daniel Jones replied Heck yeah, go for it.
- Bill O'Brien — Person · Referenced expert · 2 mentions · first at
Coach mentioned as a potential candidate for the Michigan head coaching job.Yeah,, I, the, name, I, thought, about, was, Bill O'Brien.
- Kalin Dbor — Person · 2 mentions · first at
You call everyone. You could you even see is the ink dry on the Matt Campbell deal? Like you call Kalin Dbor, you call Dan Lanning. It's like I don't know, man. This is seems like a pretty messy situation you're walking into.
Books & papers
- Monsters, Inc. — Book · 2 mentions · first at
I, don't, know if, you've, seen, Trevor, in person, but like Trevor's he's, a, monster., I, mean,, he's, a, monster.
Companies & orgs
- DraftKings — Company · Sponsor · 6 mentions · first at
Official sports betting partner of the NFL, sponsoring the podcast.On today's Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. It is the week 15 picks and preview. We also have our good friend Dan Orlovski on the show talking ball.
- NFL — Company · Referenced organization · 2 mentions · first at
National Football League, the main subject of the podcast. - Atlanta Falcons — Company · Subject of discussion · 3 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their win against the Buccaneers and player performance.Is most mad tonight? The people who started the fantasy football playoffs against Kyle Pittz or Falcons fans that Kyle Pittz is now going to go off at the end of his fifth year right before he's a free agent.
- Game Time — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
Sponsor of the podcast, promoting their 12 days of game time giveaway. - Los Angeles Chargers — Company · Subject of discussion · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their upcoming game against the Chiefs.Watched the Chargers win on Monday night. Everyone watched the Chiefs lose on Sunday night. Now the Chargers are getting five and a half points. Huh.
- Michigan — Company · Referenced organization · 14 mentions · first at
Discussed in the context of college football and recent controversies.That was quite a day. Shiron Moore, head coach of Michigan, gets fired for cause. So, the alleged affair with his executive assistant and then within like an hour of him getting fired, he.
- Baltimore Ravens — Company · Team discussed · 4 mentions
Analyzed for their current season performance and playoff chances. - Pittsburgh Steelers — Company · Sports team discussed · 4 mentions
Mentioned in the context of NFL games and playoff scenarios. - New Orleans Saints — Company · Subject of discussion · 3 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their game against the Panthers.With, a, win, over, the, Saints, on, Sunday, the Carolina Panthers can make next week's game a clinching game.
- Twisted Tea — Company · 3 mentions · first at
Wherever you buy beer and give yourself the gift of twisted tea this holiday season. Enjoy twisted tea. It's delicious. Great way to celebrate the holidays with a couple…
- Uber Eats — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
Sponsor of the podcast, promoting their game day deals.Delivered on Uber Eats so that you never miss a play. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals all season long, only on Uber Eats. Week 15, boys.
- Washington Commanders — Company · Subject of discussion · 1 mention · first at
NFL team discussed for their poor performance and tanking implications.This, is, a, huge, tankathon, game., If, the, if the Commanders win this game, they're going to they're going to vault to like 910. If they lose this game, the Giants are going…
- Seattle Seahawks — Company · Referenced team · 4 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.It's it's efficient and explosive. second team in that conference would absolutely be Seattle if Sam Darnold's done some stuff recently when it comes to like my this way I say…
- Indianapolis Colts — Company · Referenced team · 4 mentions
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Did, you, know, that, Philip, Rivers obviously returning for the Colts this week?
- Kansas City Chiefs — Company · Referenced team · 3 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.About at SoFi. No one was open for the Chargers. I don't know. And they can't block up front. And the Chiefs, their defense, their pass rush hasn't gotten home, but they should…
- Las Vegas Raiders — Company · Referenced team · 3 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Okay., Next, game,, Raiders, Eagles., Eagles - 11 1/2 over under 38 1/2. Max, I know we talked about it a lot on Tuesday.
- Arizona Cardinals — Company · Referenced team · 3 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Cardinals, to, Texans., Texans, -, 9, and a half. Over under 42 and a half.
- Planet Fitness — Company · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at
Sponsor of the podcast, promoting their gym memberships.Okay., Before, we, get, to, the, afternoon games, Planet Fitness. Everybody can get strong at Planet Fitness. we've been talking about on this show. We're getting in shape in 2026. We have the Planet Fitness gym here in the office.
- AFC — Company · Subject of discussion · 3 mentions
American Football Conference, discussed in playoff scenarios. - NFC — Company · Subject of discussion · 3 mentions
National Football Conference, discussed in playoff scenarios. - Los Angeles Rams — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.All, right., Teams, that, I, truly, believe can win it. Number one, Rams. I'll start in the NFC. Rams. Rams. there's no quarterback wide receiver group right now that sees it…
- Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current struggles.He has thrown for 1,158 yards, 11 touchdowns, and one interception a throwback night. And the big story here is the Bucks are in deep, deep trouble.
- Tennessee Titans — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Yeah,, that's, true., That's, true., Titans at 49ers. 49ers minus 12 and a half over under, 44, and a, half., Can, we, just, just say 49ers?
- Buffalo Bills — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Worried about, it's this is the reason where it's like Josh, this is a proven team. The Bills are a proven successful juggernaut team. Patriots want to get there. This is a…
- New York Giants — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.E, both, of, these, teams, are, are, a, bad, spot right now. We are on an eightgame losing streak. The Giants are on a sevengame losing streak. But the Giants losing streak feels like it's a lot better than our losing streak.
- Houston Texans — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Score 20 on them right?, you, know,, they, all, you, got, to, do is if you Houston offensively can score 20, they can go on a three-game run. so I would say those New England's…
- Denver Broncos — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.The Broncos are in the first spot right now. they have what's their win streak right now? 10 in a row.
- Dallas Cowboys — Company · Referenced team · 2 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Reality for Dallas with some of their picks. You're sitting there going Dallas can be a really good football team next year if they draft well and are able to like maneuver the cap a little bit.
- Cleveland Browns — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Blobed for sure. Wind chill. I am nervous about this game just because I think the Browns when we talk about it every single week that the Browns are in every, game, at least…
- Minnesota Vikings — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Yeah,, but, it's, week, to, week., I, mean, the Vikings look dead the week before.
- Detroit Lions — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.I, think, they're, just, The, Lions, are, going to be the most desperate team that you've ever seen.
- San Francisco 49ers — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.It's a lot of Rams Seahawks Bears, Packers, Lions, cuz, those, those, are tight division 49ers are right there.
- Chicago Bears — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.They, have, to, go, 4, and0%., They, have, to, go 4-0. The Bears have to go 0 and4. The Lions have to go 1 and3. And the Panthers and Bucks have to finish with a nine and eight record or worse.
- Chevy — Company · 1 mention · first at
Grinding through the week or getting geared up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. The Chevy Silverado. It's a longtime partner of part of my take. It's our…
- Green Bay Packers — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.Isn't good enough. but it will eventually. So that's got to get more consistent out of Sam. Green Bay, I love Green Bay. I love their defense. I love their offense. Watson…
- Philadelphia Eagles — Company · Referenced team · 1 mention · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.So, on the other side of that game, the Eagles, are they broken beyond repair?
- Cincinnati Bengals — Company · Team discussed · 37 mentions
Briefly mentioned in the context of their season and player performances. - Miami Dolphins — Company · Team discussed · 15 mentions
Mentioned in passing during team performance discussions.Patriots, the Patriots have clinched a win over a winning opponent.
- Notre Dame — Company · Subject of discussion · 6 mentions · first at
University mentioned in the context of college football and coaching rumors.I, think, Notre, Dame, should, be, in, the playoffs.
- Carolina Panthers — Company · Referenced team · 4 mentions · first at
NFL team discussed for their performance and current standings.With, a, win, over, the, Saints, on, Sunday, the Carolina Panthers can make next week's game a clinching game.
Products & tech
- Roback.com — Product · 1 mention
- duck — Product · 6 mentions
- shiesty — Product · 4 mentions
- El Camino — Product · 3 mentions · first at
Probably, the, El, Camino., Yeah, but, like non-secondary, cars.
- Creamsicle jerseys — Product · 2 mentions · first at
Bucks just they stink. they this is what I struggle with the Bucks because the Creamsicle jerseys were nice. The Falcons throwbacks were nice. I hated the creamsicle line of scrimmage line. It got me very confused.
- DraftKings Sportsbook app — Product · 2 mentions · first at
Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app.
- chicken parm — Product · 2 mentions · first at
Pizza?, What, about, a, chicken, parm?
- Chevy Silverado — Product · 2 mentions · first at
Grinding through the week or getting geared up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. The Chevy Silverado. It's a longtime partner of part of my take. It's our…
- Shorts — Product · 2 mentions · first at
Right now and we just took all the starting quarterbacks and we just put you in shorts and we threw it, you wouldn't be the guy that you're like That's the pick I want. like he'd probably be in the, the 15 to 18 range as far as like just.
- cashmere pullover — Product · 2 mentions
- ESPN playoff simulator — Product · 1 mention · first at
The other pies and I thought, you know what? Let's go back to home base. Let's run the football. ESPN playoff simulator. They haven't changed it in 15 years. I know how to use that one.
- brand muffin — Product · 1 mention · first at
I'm, going, to, have, to, get, a, brand, muffin tomorrow cuz the [ __ ] [ __ ] hurts hard. Max, what would you say?
- 12-foot sub — Product · 1 mention · first at
- cable towers — Product · 1 mention · first at
We have the free weights, the cable towers, the Smith machine, the treadmill. I think you should get on the treadmill and walk a little bit. Walk a couple miles, little hot boy walk. Also.
- free weights — Product · 1 mention · first at
We have the free weights, the cable towers, the Smith machine, the treadmill. I think you should get on the treadmill and walk a little bit. Walk a couple miles, little hot boy walk. Also.
- Smith machine — Product · 1 mention · first at
We have the free weights, the cable towers, the Smith machine, the treadmill. I think you should get on the treadmill and walk a little bit. Walk a couple miles, little hot boy walk. Also the stair climbers. Awesome. Get that.
- PF app — Product · 1 mention · first at
Join today in club online or in the free PF app. This podcast, I'll tell you right now, we're going to get hot in 2026. Should we do a full weighin? I think we should do a full like all of us get on a scale together like in the.
- stripper pole — Product · 1 mention · first at
Talking, about, a, stripper, pole., I, did, say that, but, I'm, I, said, that., I, guessed if, that, is, what, happened,, that, is, the funniest way to get concussed of all.
- Hoodies — Product · 1 mention · first at
- Duck fried rice — Product · 1 mention · first at
Day for the next 10 days. Let me tell you what, I had a Pepsi with my duck. I had duck fried rice for lunch today.
- Escalade — Product · 1 mention · first at
That, is, that's, accurate., Yeah, that's, fine., Jerry, needs, a, booster, seat to get in his Escalade.
- Hummer — Product · 1 mention · first at
It's, a, it, although, it's, electric which like kind of defeats the entire purpose of Hummer. also, Jerry, lives, in, the, suburbs., He, can have a car that like that. I can't like driving that around and parking in the city would suck.
- electric Hummer — Product · 1 mention · first at
Hey,, I, I, did, consider, getting, the, the electric Hummer because it does a thing you can cripwalk your car. It goes like sideways.
- double vans — Product · 1 mention · first at
They're, they're, pretty, parked., We, need to make space. the double vans they're kind of long. The fullsize vans right?
- Vandy 1.0 — Product · 1 mention · first at
Yes., And, we, c, But, we, So,, the, idea, we're finally like I almost drove Vandy 1.0 through a storage container. Oh I, thought, I, thought, taking, it, out, of park would, would, help, start, it.
- tow truck — Product · 1 mention · first at
Yeah., And, she's, a, heavy, [ __ ], And there's a there's two dudes from the shootute and the tow truck guy there and like the vote on just roll them ended up being the…
- alarm app — Product · 1 mention · first at
That, Okay,, that, was, a, tough, one., we got a new we got a new alarm app.
- Alexa — Product · 1 mention
- Polos — Product · 1 mention
- QZips — Product · 1 mention
- wings — Product · 1 mention
Concepts & topics
- NFL — Concept · Core topic · 100 mentions
Central theme of the podcast, discussing various teams and games. - Packers — Concept · Core topic · 8 mentions · first at
Mentioned as a competitive team in the NFL with a focus on their performance and strategy.Month of December. So, they get they're one of these teams. We talked about it last week with the Packers. They're one of these teams that gets better late as the season goes…
- College Football — Concept · Core topic · 4 mentions · first at
Discussed in the context of games and team performances.We're gonna do Firefest. We're going to talk about Thursday Night Football.
- 49ers — Concept · Core topic · 3 mentions · first at
Mentioned as a strong team in the NFL with a focus on their performance.Yeah,, that's, true., That's, true., Titans at 49ers. 49ers minus 12 and a half over under, 44, and a, half., Can, we, just, just say 49ers?
- Bears — Concept · Core topic · 1 mention · first at
Discussed in the context of their current season performance and future prospects.That, was, very, rude, of, me., By, the, way, it's very I just hope that the Bears make the playoffs or don't just like [ __ ] the bed down there.
- Lions — Concept · Core topic · 1 mention · first at
Discussed as a team in the NFL with potential playoff implications.Big game. Big game for the Lions. Both teams really cuz the Rams are trying to get the one seed. The Lions are in the eighth spot right now.
- Saints — Concept · Core topic · 9 mentions · first at
Mentioned as part of the NFL discussion, focusing on their games and players.Okay., Next, up, Panthers, at, Saints., Saints are two and a half point underdogs.
- Texans — Concept · Core topic · 9 mentions · first at
Mentioned as part of the NFL discussion, focusing on their games and players.And, then, when, he, coached, for, the, Texans, Arian actually told me that Bill O'Brien was his favorite coach, the best I, believe, that offensive, mind, that, he, ever, played, for.
- Titans — Concept · Core topic · 9 mentions · first at
Discussed in the context of their NFL season and specific games.The, the, Titans, are, Titans, are, reading all the press clippings. Everyone thinks you're the best team in the world because you won a game last year.
- Jaguars — Concept · Core topic · 6 mentions · first at
Discussed in the context of their NFL season and specific matchups.Season where they've had obviously some big wins, but they've also had you remember that game against the Jaguars a few weeks ago where they just piled they got piled on.
- NFC South — Concept · 4 mentions · first at
Teams, but now it's just yeah, I think they're just bad. They just lost to the Falcons and the Saints, the two teams at the bottom of the NFC South the worst division in football. I don't think you can say they're they're good right now. No.
- torch passing — Concept · Key argument · 3 mentions · first at
Discussed in the context of team dynamics and player transitions.It's, over., Yeah., So,, the, torch, is, going to die with Drake May.
- playoff simulator — Concept · 1 mention · first at
I, went, back, to, my, main, [ __ ], because, I, I branched out. I sampled the fruits of the other pies and I thought, you know what? Let's go back to home base. Let's run the football. ESPN playoff.
- NCAA — Concept · Referenced organization · 6 mentions
Mentioned in passing in the context of college sports.Him earlier this year and, somebody, tipped, them, off, to, this relationship. They both denied it at the time and then they closed the investigation. Then they were given more…
- Antifragility — Concept · 1 mention
- Cognitive Biases — Concept · 1 mention
- Cold Exposure — Concept · 1 mention
- Compound Interest — Concept · 1 mention
- Deep Work — Concept · 1 mention
- First Principles Thinking — Concept · 1 mention
- Incentive Design — Concept · 1 mention
- Intermittent Fasting — Concept · 1 mention
- Lindy Effect — Concept · 1 mention
- Moore's Law — Concept · 1 mention
- Network Effects — Concept · 1 mention
- Pareto Principle — Concept · 1 mention
- Power Law — Concept · 1 mention
- Second-Order Thinking — Concept · 1 mention
- Stoicism — Concept · 1 mention
- Zone 2 Training — Concept · 1 mention
- MVP — Concept · 11 mentions
- AFC — Concept · 9 mentions
- Firefest — Concept · 7 mentions · first at
We're gonna do Firefest. We're going to talk about Thursday Night Football.
- Cover 2 — Concept · 6 mentions
- Animal Champion Warrior Legend — Concept · 5 mentions · first at
You said Herbert is an animal champion warrior legend. High praise. Is that the first? Is he the only animal, champion warrior, legend? Is there anybody else who's an Is this just something like on.
- Week 15 picks and preview — Concept · 4 mentions · first at
On today's Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. It is the week 15 picks and preview. We also have our good friend Dan Orlovski on the show talking ball.
- Firefest of the week — Concept · 4 mentions · first at
Firefest, of, the, week., Hank, I'm, getting, banged, by, the, auto, industry.
- Heisman — Concept · 3 mentions · first at
He's, saying, the, Heisman for, the, Heisman, but, Josh,, it's, not, between Josh, Allen's, back, in, it.
- Play-action — Concept · 3 mentions · first at
You see more options where he's underneath the center, play fake whether it's a play action or a drop back, and it's hey, ball's out first hitch. Ball's out, first hitch.
- Monday Night Football — Concept · 3 mentions · first at
The second part of your tweet was about Justin Herbert, the quarterback for the Chargers after Monday Night Football.
Places & events
- College Football Playoff — Event · Key event · 1 mention · first at
Discussed in the context of college football season and team performances.Weird that it happened right after signing day. So, they're able to keep all their signed players. And would this have happened if they had beaten Ohio State and been in the playoff? That's just a question that's being asked.
- Michigan — Place · Referenced location · 14 mentions · first at
Location discussed in the context of a coaching scandal.They're, going, to, get, someone, they're going to get It is funny because Michigan men are now going around being You call everyone. You could you even see is the ink dry on…
- Super Bowl — Event · Referenced event · 14 mentions · first at
NFL championship game discussed in the context of team performances and predictions.You, got, to, [ __ ], care, enough, where, the [ __ ] hurts. That's just me after a Super Bowl Sunday in the office.
- Thursday Night Football — Event · 2 mentions · first at
Sorry, to, all, the, kids., All, right,, that was yeah, that was our Thursday Night Football recap. The Bucks are bad. I do., Do, you, know what, I'm, saying, though?
- NFL Playoffs — Event · 2 mentions
- Seattle — Place · 4 mentions · first at
Breaking news. Adam Sheper just tweeted Sounds like Philip Rivers is tracking to start Sunday at Seattle.
- Buffalo — Place · 4 mentions · first at
Or excuse me, unlikely Joe, unlikely Lamar, unlikely Pat in there. but Buffalo just because the quarterback can get hot as anybody. Denver, the defense is good enough. I'd probably say Houston, I think the defense is that good. I think the.
- Kansas City, Kansas — Place · 3 mentions · first at
And, so, I, think, that, there's, a, real Okay. What truly is the future of Kansas City? We know Patrick's ridiculous. and that's this doesn't say anything other than that, but like I just think like this is a little bit I don't know.
- New England — Place · 3 mentions · first at
To, Dave., Dave, didn't, bite, on, it,, but, I, I mean there's a coach out there that coached for the New England Patriots.
- Dallas — Place · 3 mentions · first at
Reality for Dallas with some of their picks. You're sitting there going Dallas can be a really good football team next year if they draft well and are able to like maneuver the cap a little bit.
- Denver — Place · 2 mentions · first at
The Chargers played the Chiefs at Dallas Houston,, at, Denver., Obviously, not, an easy schedule, but again, as long as they as long as they win that game against the Broncos, they're gonna most likely, be, in, at least, over, the, Chiefs.
- Houston — Place · 2 mentions · first at
Get hot as anybody. Denver, the defense is good enough. I'd probably say Houston, I think the defense is that good. I think the defense you How many teams are going to score 20 on them right?, you, know,, they, all, you, got, to, do.
- Philadelphia — Place · 2 mentions · first at
Shout, out, to, to, the, Philadelphia, media because they did ask Siri if they were thinking about making the move to Tanner McKe or Sam.
- Toyota-thon — Event · Referenced event · 2 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the context of a promotional event or campaign.Toyota, thon., We, know, it., Jordan, Love, is just insane. Yeah he, went, on, McAfee, show, wearing, a, Toyota thon jacket. He's leaning into it.
- Green Bay — Place · 2 mentions · first at
Isn't good enough. but it will eventually. So that's got to get more consistent out of Sam. Green Bay, I love Green Bay. I love their defense. I love their offense. Watson…
- Toyotathon — Event · 2 mentions
- Charlotte — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as the location of a significant event discussed in the podcast.I'm, pretty, sure, that, if, the, Panthers beat the Saints this weekend in New Orleans, that makes next week's game which I believe is in Charlotte against the Bucks, that…
- Ipsellani — Place · 1 mention · first at
There, was, a, an, untraceable, jet, that, took off from Ipsellani to fly down to the airport that is closest to Nick Sabin today.
- COVID-19 pandemic — Event · 1 mention
- NFC Championship — Event · 1 mention
- Carolina — Place · 3 mentions · first at
With, a, win, over, the, Saints, on, Sunday, the Carolina Panthers can make next week's game a clinching game.
- Ohio State — Place · Setting · 3 mentions · first at
Mentioned in the context of the Michigan scandal.Weird that it happened right after signing day. So, they're able to keep all their signed players. And would this have happened if they had beaten Ohio State and been in the playoff? That's just a question that's being asked.
- Tampa Bay — Place · 2 mentions · first at
Kirk Cousins might have another hundred million dollars, $200 million contract if he could just play the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because in the last three starts against the Tampa…
- Tennessee — Place · 2 mentions · first at
Coach. I will never not believe in a Mike Fable team. He's shown that he can do it back in 2021. The Tennessee Titans got the number one overall seed in the AFC that year. And…
- Pittsburgh — Place · 2 mentions · first at
That, all, makes, sense, now.,, I, did, our weekly hit with the Pittsburgh radio people on Wednesday morning and they had a guest in studio. Do you know who that guest was?
- Washington — Place · 2 mentions · first at
The Cardinals four times. Chris Chandler beat the Broncos four times. Jeff Garcia beat Washington four times. Carrie Collins beat the Cowboys four times. And Earl Moral beat…
- Jacksonville — Place · 2 mentions · first at
But you can make the argument is one of the hottest teams in the NFL, the Jacksonville Jaguars. Are they for real?
- Ann Arbor — Place · 1 mention · first at
- New Orleans — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as the location of a significant event discussed in the podcast.I'm, pretty, sure, that, if, the, Panthers beat the Saints this weekend in New Orleans, that makes next week's game which I believe is in Charlotte against the Bucks, that would be for the NFC South. Wouldn't matter where you're.
- Foxboro — Place · 1 mention · first at
Yeah., I'm, excited., I, don't, think, I'm excited to see Josh Allen he hasn't played in a game like at Foxboro in these circumstances where you know Foxboro is going to be rocking.
- Cincinnati — Place · 1 mention · first at
I, do, too., And, there's, I, mean, also, a possibility that he could just not like playing football in Cincinnati and, and, other, people, have, had, that, same thought over the years. Other quarterbacks have had that same thought.
- Baltimore — Place · 1 mention · first at
Do, you, think, that, John, Harbaugh, is, going to stick around in Baltimore if they don't make the playoffs? If the se if they lose out?
- Chicago — Place · 1 mention · first at
I, guess, I, kind, of, had, the, moment where I saw that stat about the weather in Chicago and it didn't hit me that was the weather that I would be living in.
- Detroit — Place · 1 mention · first at
Sean, McVey, said, he, vows, to, never, forget the way Stafford was treated in Detroit Homecoming.
- Arizona — Place · 1 mention
- Atlanta — Place · 1 mention
- Cleveland — Place · 1 mention
- Indianapolis — Place · 1 mention
- Las Vegas — Place · 1 mention
- Los Angeles — Place · 1 mention
Media & podcasts
- Pardon My Take — Media · Host podcast · 2 mentions · first at
The podcast itself, hosting the discussion and interviews. - Wake Up Barstool — Media · Referenced show · 1 mention · first at
Barstool Sports morning show mentioned in passing.Since Tuesday, I have found myself in a weird spot where I am now a Jaylen Herz defender because I was on Wake Up Bar stool on Tuesday morning. I said Jaylen Herz is Russell Wilson 2.0.
- McAfee Show — Media · Referenced show · 1 mention · first at
Sports talk show mentioned in passing.Toyota, thon., We, know, it., Jordan, Love, is just insane. Yeah he, went, on, McAfee, show, wearing, a, Toyota thon jacket. He's leaning into it.
- Lord of the Rings — Media · 1 mention · first at
But,, Hank,, no,, it, the, torch, will, have, to be passed. Like think you remember Lord of the Rings when they have to like light the beacon and it goes from like boom to boom.
- Hard Knocks — Media · Referenced show · 1 mention · first at
HBO sports documentary series mentioned in passing.Fumbled the pick afterwards and it was crazy and then he threw another pick and another pick. AJ Brown also looked like friends on Hard Knocks this week according to memes because I refuse to watch it.
- Breaking Bad — Media · 1 mention
- Game of Thrones — Media · 1 mention
- Inception — Media · 1 mention
- Joe Rogan Experience — Media · 1 mention
- Rick and Morty — Media · 1 mention
- Stranger Things — Media · 1 mention
Sponsors
- DraftKings — Product · Sponsor · 6 mentions · first at
Primary sponsor of the podcast segment, promoting sports betting. - DraftKings Sportsbook — Product · Title sponsor / betting CTA platform · 3 mentions · first at
Presented as the episode sponsor and repeatedly used for betting CTAs (app download, promo code) and bonus-bet offers.Change everything. The crowd, the momentum, the game itself. It never gets old. Feel that same rush with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL…
- Game Time — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
Promoted as a sponsor of the podcast, offering prizes and celebrating fan moments.Also, a little oopsie in Michigan in Ann Arbor. We're going to get into all of it. And we're brought to you by our friends at Game Time. We're a few days into the 12 days of…
- Uber Eats — Product · Sponsor (food delivery promo) · 2 mentions · first at
Presented as the sponsor for the Week 15 picks segment with game-day food delivery messaging and deals.This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats, reminding fans that if football coincidentally makes you hungry, you can get game day deals on wings, burgers beer, chips, and more all season long.
- 12daysofgametime.com — Product · Sponsor promo landing page (giveaway entry) · 1 mention · first at
Repeated CTA to enter GameTime’s '12 Days of GameTime' giveaway with a $5,000 grand prize.Means they're giving away prizes every day with a $5,000 grand prize at the end. If you still have not entered, go to 12daysofgametime.com.
- Planet Fitness — Product · Sponsor (gym membership pitch) · 3 mentions · first at
Ad read promoting gym membership pricing, app, and office gym setup; positioned as a 2026 fitness push.Couple miles, little hot boy walk. Also the stair climbers. Awesome. Get that booty popping. High value membership that supports any fitness journey as low as $15 a month. Over 2,700 club locations. Most clubs open 24 hours.
- Twisted Tea — Product · Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at
Sponsor product, promoting their beverage.Saturday, going to be watching Army Navy. Going to have a twisted tea. Make sure to look for those yellow cans wherever you buy beer and give yourself the gift of twisted tea this holiday season. Enjoy twisted tea. It's.
- Uber Eats — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
Promoted as a sponsor, offering game day deals on food delivery.This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats, reminding fans that if football coincidentally makes you hungry, you can get game day deals on wings, burgers beer, chips, and more all season long.
- Chevy Silverado — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
Sponsor product, promoting their truck.Grinding through the week or getting geared up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. The Chevy Silverado. It's a longtime partner of part of my take. It's our…
- Robback.com — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at
Sponsor product, promoting their website.Promo code take 20% off your first purchase. QZiffs, polos, hoodies joggers, shorts. Robback.com promo code take. I want to ask you about a team that gets not a lot of media…
- Pepsi — Sponsor · 12 mentions
- DraftKings — Sponsor · 6 mentions · first at
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Rams minus six. Rams, minus, six. Wait,, no,, you, can't, do, that., No,, can't do that.
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Football guy might Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my take. Welcome, to, part, of, my, take, presented, by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, December 12th and Kirk Cousins is back. Is he him? I'll tell you what Kirk Cousins might have another hundred million dollars, $200 million contract if he could just play the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because in the last three starts against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers he has thrown for 1,158 yards, 11 touchdowns, and one interception a throwback night. And the big story here is the Bucks are in deep, deep trouble.
Doodoo., They're, in, doodoo., They, are, not good. With, a, win, over, the, Saints, on, Sunday, the Carolina Panthers can make next week's game a clinching game.
Really? Yeah., If, the, Panthers, beat, the, Saints this weekend, I think that's true. You might want to double check.
I'm, going, to, double, double, check, for, you because I feel like that might not be true, but I
I've, been, wrong, before., I, I, ran, it through the playoff simulator. Oh,, then, you, should, be, right.
Uh, but, we, should, probably, double, check. Who's, playoff, simulator? Uh, ESPN's., Okay.
I, went, back, to, my, main, [ __ ], because, I, I I branched out. I sampled the fruits of the other pies and I thought, you know what? Let's go back to home base. Let's run the football. ESPN playoff simulator. They haven't changed it in 15 years. I know how to use that one.
Okay. I'm, pretty, sure, that, if, the, Panthers beat the Saints this weekend in New Orleans, that makes next week's game which I believe is in Charlotte against the Bucks, that would be for the NFC South. Wouldn't matter where you're running it through the simulator now. Is there anything with the the common opponents or anything anything like that? No
I, that's, something, I, didn't, do, because, I only did the Bucks and the Panthers games. So
wow. That's, what, it, looks, like, to, me., Could be wrong, but it's a it was a big loss for the Bucks tonight. And uh we got the Kyle Pittz game.
That's, crazy., I, didn't, realize, that's, a t-shirt and hat game if the Panthers win on Sunday against the Saints
against, Shuck. Against, Shuck. Shuck, has, something, to, say, about, that. Yeah, Kyle Pittz. Uh, I Okay, so who who is most mad tonight? The people who started the fantasy football playoffs against Kyle Pittz or Falcons fans that Kyle Pittz is now going to go off uh at the end of his fifth year right before he's a free agent.
Yeah,, 100%, Falcons, fans. It's, like, this, is, what, we, thought, we were getting. We were hoping for a lot more of this over the last five years from Kyle Pittz.
Yep. And, he, he, does, it, in, front, of, a, national audience in a game where we're already eliminated from the playoffs and now he's going to leave and probably get paid. My prediction was that Kyle Pittz signs with the Kansas City Chiefs and becomes an first team all pro.
Yeah,, he, by, the, way,, remember, that remember that chart we had before the season? Kyle Pitts is one touchdown away from realizing that
from, doubling, it, again. No,, no,, not, doubling, it., He, goes, one more every year. He had one touchdown his first year. Two, three, four. He has four right now.
If, he, gets, five,, I, predicted, that, Kyle Pittz will have the greatest year of any tight end of ever in year 20 in the NFL.
Yep. He'll, have, 20, touchdowns. That's, a, fact., He, had, a, game, tonight that actually hasn't been done by a tight end since the mid 90s.
Okay. So,, the, last, NFL, tight, end, to, score three touchdowns and 150 yards receiving. Can you guess who it is? Wait, say it again.
Last, tight, end, to, score, three, touchdowns in a game. Yes. Yeah, Hank, is, right.
Shannon, Sharp. It, was, Shannon, Sharp., I, think, it, was, 96. That, makes, sense.
When, he, was, on, the, Broncos, Sharp, was, a, problem. He, was, a, pro., He's, still, might, be.
Uh, the, the, big, the, big, thing, though,, the Bucks just they they stink. I mean, they this is what I struggle with with the Bucks because the Creamsicle jerseys were nice. The Falcons throwbacks were nice. I hated the creamsicle um line of scrimmage line. It got me very confused. A couple times we were like, "Oh, is that a first? Oh no, he just got back to line of scrimmage." Zack, they're bad. And the thing I always uh struggle with with a team like the Bucks, they have good players, but they're bad.
We're, not, in, a, good, spot. Yeah., T, Bucks, not, in, a, good, spot confirmed
because, they're, they're, I, mean, they, have Baker, they have Tristan Worfs, they have Godwin, Evans. Mike Evans was back. He was awesome.
He, was, great. The, Falcons, are, objectively, not, a, good football team, and they had a bajillion penalties tonight.
Penalties, to, four. It, was, It, was, part, Kyle, Pittz,, part, Kirk Cousins, and part Bon, who had an awesome game again. Like every time he gets the ball, he will make two guys miss. He gets like nine yards over what you expect based on like the screenshot of when he catches a pass in the flat. He's going to go nine more yards than you think he's going to go. He just ran as far as he decided to each play. It wasn't up to our defense. It was up to him.
It, It, honestly, This, game, pisses, me, off. I, agree. It, pisses, me, off. Oh,, no.
No., For, the, Falcons. Oh,, you're, going, to, say,, "Yeah.", Yeah. For, the, Falcons.
What?, He, keeps, Max, keeps, pulling, it, up. What? That, the that, I, I, wasn't, going, to, talk, about, it.
You're, literally, pull, You, just, keep clicking in and out of it over and over.
I, wasn't, going, to, talk, about, it. Max, is, forcing, us, to, talk, about, the, fact that the Patriots have now beaten one less team with a winning record. Max is forcing us to talk.
He, literally, just, keeps, pulling, it, up. I, was, just, curious., I, was, just, curious. Okay. Play. I mean, that's good producing, but also I didn't want to talk about that, Max. Yeah. I'm trying to give the Patriots their flowers right now. Shout out Kirk Cousins. 300 yards today.
375,, I, think. Uh,, the, Patriots., What', I, say? He's, giving, the, Falcons, their, flowers.
The, Falcons, are, flowers. No,, I'm, saying, I'm, trying, to, move, on, and not get so anti-atriots.
Who's, getting, f, Who's, getting, flowers? The, Patriots. I'm, giving, the, Patriots.
Oh,, you're, giving, the, Patriots., You, were I think you were about to give the Falcons flowers.
Well,, no., I, We're, doing, two, different Max interrupted with the change to the to the Bucks record and then the Patriots game and I told Max I don't want to see that because I'm trying to turn over a new leaf.
That, was, very, rude, of, me., By, the, way, it's very I just I just I just hope that the Bears make the playoffs or like, you know, don't just like [ __ ] the bed down there.
WAIT,, I, HAD, NOTHING, TO, DO CUZ, ALL, THAT, HAPPENS, WITH, this, podcast is that your guys teams go to [ __ ] and then you just lash out at the Patriots.
I, Wait,, hold, on. No. Yeah, it's ugly. So, I'm saying I want you guys to play well so that you don't start lashing out. You're right. That's fair. I understand. I understand what you're saying. That
I'm, not, lashing, out, at, you. What, Max, was, doing, right, there., He, had the Patriots schedule up and he kept clicking open to the Bucks box score over and over.
I, don't, think, that's, open, and, then, back and then open and then back. I, think, I, did, it, two, times.
It, was, like, a, flashing, light, in, front, of my face. Wrong,, wrong,, wrong,, wrong., Okay,, Max, it'll it'll break your heart to realize that I don't think the Bills can drop below 500. I think that ship is sea.
Yeah,, I, think, they, have, their, nine, wins. Patriots, the Patriots have clinched a win over a winning opponent.
The, Falcons, Flowers. Uh,, no., I, What, I, was, going, to, say, sad. I, was, I, know., I, agree., Sad., Um,, I, was gonna say it pisses me off watching the Falcons win pisses me off when they have Bjon and they've got Kyle Pittz going off
and, it's, like, this, this, is, what, should have been happening with this team for the, longest, time., Like, I'm, I'm I'm, sad. Well, I'm not sad. I'm upset
for, Falcons, fans. You, must, just, be, pulling, your, hair, out watching this team play well because you're like this is this is what we'd expected. This is what we thought would happen when we have they had the two best players on the field tonight.
Also,, the, Panthers, have, a, winning record, so [ __ ] off. Oh,, we, got, you, there., That's, true. That's a good point. That's good. You're still You're still thinking about that?
Rentree. I, didn't, think, about, it., Imagine, if, the rentree Max is rentree in your head. The Bears and the Eagles
like, fall, off, and, don't, make, the playoffs and Hank has the only playoff team.
We, just, It's, just, like, a, gang, of, haters. It's still unlikely, but it's it's possible.
It's, not, It's, not, impossible. It's, not, impossible because, the, Bucks, are, out.
Like, I, I, mean,, I, don't, think, I, think, the Panthers are better than them.
I, really, do. And, and, again,, it's, it's, crazy, to, watch because it's kind of similar like what you're saying with the with the Falcons. Works the same for the Bucks. When you watch the Bucks play, you're like, they have Bucky Irving, they have Ibuka Godwin, Mike Evans, Vtoy. What? They just can't play defense though. They can't play defense and their offense is not their offense wasn't the problem tonight. They just can't play defense.
Yeah., You, know, what, else, was, the problem? Maybe I and I did love the creamsicle jerseys. Those aren't fumble recovering jerseys.
No, they're, not, they're, not, we, had, the, we had they're, not, get, down, in, the, mud, jerseys.
Uh, the, the, mutual, uh, whatever, it, was simultaneous simultane, fumble, recovery, by, Kurt, that if I was a Bucks fan I'd be mad about that.
The, refs, had, a, bad, night., And, I, feel like we got no explanation on half the penalties. The Falcons had 19 penalties. Think about that. Like the the the Falcons had 19 penalties and they won the game.
Yeah. That's, so, hard, to, do. Well,, Al, kept, talking, about, that, other game where it was the Raiders and uh the Raiders Bucks, right?
Yeah., The, Raiders, Raiders, had, 23 penalties that night for 200 yards. Yes. And they won that game against the Bucks back in 2016.
23, penalties, to, six., Um,, Zach,, can, I, ask you, this is an actual assignment for you, so you have to be 100% honest and truthful. What are your honest thoughts about Todd BS?
I, just, think, Tabo, is, supposed, to, be, this defensive guy, and then you just see our defense be non-existent. It's I don't know what's going on there. It's bad. It's bad.
Todd, Todd, Bulls, drop, fbombs., Seven, of them. Seven. Let's, listen., What, do, you, tell, them, in the locker room after a game like this?
It's, inexcusable., You, don't, make excuses. We You got to [ __ ] care enough where the [ __ ] hurts. You got to [ __ ] care enough where the [ __ ] hurts. It's got to [ __ ] mean something to you. It's more than a job. It's your [ __ ] livelihood. How well do you know your job? How well can you do your job? Well, you can't sugarcoat that [ __ ] It was in the [ __ ] excusable and there's no [ __ ] answer for it. That's for no excuse for it. That's what you tell them in a lot. Look in the [ __ ] mirror.
Okay., Wait., It's, got, you, It's, got, to [ __ ] matter. Wait. Where the [ __ ] hurts?
Yeah. What, was, that, quote?, It's, got, to, the point where the [ __ ] hurts. Like
wait. You, got, to, [ __ ], care, enough, where, the [ __ ] hurts. You, got, to, [ __ ], care, enough, where, the [ __ ] hurts. That's just me after a Super Bowl Sunday in the office.
That's, the, Monday, morning., The, [ __ ] hurts. It, does. I sit, on, the, toilet, and, the, [ __ ], hurts., I don't want to speak for you, but if I was a Bucks fan and I heard Todd BS say that, I would I would be unhappy with Todd BS.
Uh, Tubbles, chooses, right, now, to, evoke, a little bit of emotion and speak his mind. Tubbles never gives us any emotion. He's an emotionless head coach for the most part.
Yeah. Uh, which, I, I, don't, really, enjoy, as, a fan. Like he never gives us anything like this. And for him to finally decide to like
try, to, explain, explain, how, he's, feeling, we never get that. Uh he didn't I, think, a, lot of, this, loss, is, on, his shoulder
right, do, it, in, a, a, demonstrative, way wasn't even good at it auto auto a, robot, you, tell, speech, to, text
also say, dirty, words, Todd unprofessional uh like, I, kids, are, watching but, if, you're, going, to, be, unprofessional at least, like, give, it, a, real, go
let, me, stop, you, right, there, don't, be unprofessional I, agree, I, agree, but, in, the, off, chance you, decide, to, be, at least, like, give, it, a shot
who's, going, to, have, that, take I'm, just, thinking, about, the, journalist and there's a lot of words that you can't print in newspaper that he said. Yeah. So, they're getting no copy from him.
Apologies, to, all, the, people, listening, in their car with their little kids. If you heard Todd Bulls say it's got to [ __ ] matter till the [ __ ] hurts.
Um,, we're, sorry, cuz, we, don't, condone [ __ ] mattering till the [ __ ] hurts.
And, Santa's, not, getting, Todd. What? Oh,, I, thought, you, were, going to No,, I, thought, about, doing, it., I'm, not Santa. Santa is not getting Todd Bull's a playoff appearance this year because he because he used bad words.
Naughty., Uh,, no,, Zach., I, was, saying, that I wouldn't like it because it seemed like Todd BS the one time that he chooses to be emotional, he's like throwing his entire team under the bus.
Under, the, bus., Yeah., He's, selling, them out. Yeah., Like, his, guys. If, you, you, can, say, all, that, if, you're, a coach and be like, "And I [ __ ] suck too."
Yeah. You, just, got, to, in, there., It, starts, with me. The [ __ ] [ __ ] hurts.
Where, I, [ __ ], that, hurts, now. I, would. I'm, going, to, have, to, get, a, brand, muffin tomorrow cuz the [ __ ] [ __ ] hurts hard. Max, what would you say?
I, would, be, so, bad., I, would, be, I, would, be so bad. All right,, Max,, if, you, lost, that, game and you were the head coach. Hey, uh uh Mr. Dlette, what do you what do you say to the guys in the locker room?
No,, I, can't, do, it. No,, come, on., What, do, you, What, do, you, say to the guys in the locker room?
I, don't, want, to, I, don't, want, to, scare anybody. No,, no., Say, what, do, you, uh, big, cap, for part of my take. Uh coach, what do you say to the guys?
It's, it's, in, it's, unauthentic., If, I, were to do it right now, it I can't do it. I can't do it.
But, you, almost, got, to, that, point, where it would be authentic just thinking about it. Yeah, you just you just said "Oh my god, I can't do it."
Imagine, Sirani, giving, this after, the, Charger, like, after, the Chargers game.
Yeah. Well,, that, would, be, different, because, I would be super All, right,, just, try, to, put, yourself, in that mindset.
Jayen, Herz, just, had, every, turnover possible. There's a positivity bunny in your locker room.
I'd, say, we, just, lost, to, [ __ ], Kirk Cousins and he's a million years old. All all due respect to Kirk Cousins, he baldled out. But our guys are a bunch of [ __ ] [ __ ]
And, it, starts, with, me., It, starts, with me. I'm the head vagina. You, got, to, take, You, got, to, take, the bullet for your guys. I'm the head vagina. It starts with me. I'm the head vagina.
It, starts, with, me., But, these, guys, suck. Yeah, that's, what, I, That's Yeah,, let's, be, honest., Listen,, I'm, the coach, but these guys [ __ ] suck.
No, one, cares., All, they, care, about, is tweeting about getting the football snap face
and, their, snap, face, and, trying, to, do speaking fortune cookies. Let's worry about winning football games and play good football going forward.
Yes. Yes., Yes. Top., And, I'm, top, vagina. Yeah., And, I'm, top, and, I'm, And, it, starts with me. I'm top number one vagina. But these vagina. It's me, Todd Holes.
Yeah. I'm, vagina, and, chief. Yeah. And, guess, what?, We, can't., We, I, I, could put a tampon in my mouth and we still couldn't get a stop.
And, that's, me,, Todd, Holes. Head head top head, vagina. Vagina, inf. Sorry, to, all, the, kids.
Sorry, to, all, the, kids., All, right,, that was uh yeah, that was our Thursday Night Football recap. The the Bucks are bad. I do., Do, you, know what, I'm, saying, though? When when like cuz like Baker is good. I love Baker. I think he's very injured. They have all these guys and there's been they had the swoon in the middle of the season where they played really good teams, but now it's just like, yeah, I I I think they're just bad. They just lost to the Falcons and the Saints, the two teams at the bottom of the NFC South the worst division in football. I don't think you can say they're they're good right now. No
they, need, they, need, a, pass, rush. JP. Oh,, JP. JP., I, was, disappointed, JP, wasn't, out there tonight.
Yeah. Um,, yeah,, they, it, was, is, a, bad, loss., Bad loss for Tampa Bay. And now the Carolina Panthers, the prophecy is one step closer.
Oh,, yeah., Oh,, yeah. One, step, closer. Panthers, hosting, a, playoff, game. Who, would, go, who, would, go, visit, the Panthers
right, this, second?, I, believe, I, think it's going to be the loser of the Rams Seahawks.
Okay., Most, likely,, right?, Or, maybe, the Niners. I don't know. NFC everyone everything is up for every every team is one game away from each other.
Yeah. Except, for, this, division, where, they're just But hey, they're going to make it. How many people are going to say we got to get away from the divisions?
I, think, Notre, Dame, should, be, in, the playoffs. The, Pan, the, Panthers, hosting, a, playoff game., No,, you, know what?, [ __ ], it., I, love the divisions. Sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. But the divisions are it's fun that if you can start the season, you're like, if we win our division, we're in the we're in the playoffs and we get a home playoff game. Good.
Yeah,, they, should, matter. And, that's, and, that's, speaking, as, a, guy roots for a team that would be higher up if the divisions didn't matter right now. But I don't like that's just
the, historic, rivalries., They, matter. Yeah,, it, just, that, that's, they, should matter. Okay, last thing before we do our week 15 picks and preview. Um Michigan. Oopsie. That was quite a day. Shiron Moore, head coach of Michigan, gets fired for um cause. So, the alleged affair with his uh executive assistant and then within like an hour of him getting fired, he was in jail.
Yeah., Scary. Crazy. So,, don't, really, know, exactly, what, he did. There's a lot of reports out there. I'm not a 100% sure about what's true what's not true. Yeah.
But, it, sounds, like, he, went, over, to, her house, threatened, her,, threatened, himself,, and then the cops picked him up, and he's in he's in jail right now.
Uh, it's, not, that, is, very, shocking., That part's very shocking. But the the story of him being fired, I don't think is super shocking.
Well,, I, think, there, was, enough, rumors and smoke out there for a while. So Rachel Hotmeer reported that his firing is a result of Michigan's third investigation into his alleged conduct with women per sources within the program.
They, they, said, earlier, today, that, uh, the the university did a investigation of him earlier this year
and, somebody, tipped, them, off, to, this relationship. They both denied it at the time and then they closed the investigation. Then they were given more information today and that's or yesterday and that's why they acted yesterday. But yeah, according to this report, it's actually the third time that they looked into it. So they kind of knew and then we don't know. So the story I mean there's two there's two competing arguments or not arguments but uh theories here. one is I think probably what happened is that what what they're telling us is that they looked into it, both denied. What can you do there then? Although you probably could you're you're Michigan.
This is kind of like all these schools like you could find out if there was something going on.
Somebody, probably, asked, the, question, what if they're both lying to us? Yeah,, you, you, you, probably, could, have figured it out. But the theory is or or what Michigan is saying is basically they looked into it, nothing happened. Then then something changed in the last 24 48 hours where it was made apparent this was definitely a fact. Then they fired Shiron Moore. Then there's a lot of people on college football Twitter and and in the in the college football world who are saying, "Well, this is weird that it happened right after signing day." So, they're able to keep all their signed players. And would this have happened if they had beaten Ohio State and been in the playoff? That's just a question that's being asked.
That's not we're I'm not I don't actually believe I I actually believe I kind of believe that it probably was like came to a head in the last 48 hours.
I, think, they, they, they, might, have, known that the relationship was happening right,
but, they, didn't, know, that, it, was, a, going down a dark road. It sounds like it really went down a dark road. And the firing, like it actually does hurt Michigan in the fact that this is a firing after all the coaches have been hired,
right? And, you're, like, very, close, to, the transfer portal. So, it wouldn't make tons of sense to do it right now. If they'd done it like the day after the Ohio State loss, Yeah.
then, my, Spidey, senses, would, have, been picking up and been like, "Whoa, this is weird. This feels like something they knew about and they're using it as excuse." I think it's just [ __ ] hit the fan in the last 48 hours and it really hit the fan. I agree with you because I was talking about it earlier uh with Dave and I was talking about it with with T-Bob and and they were kind of going back and forth and a lot of people think that they waited until after National Signing Day um so that the recruits could not leave. I think the recruits still can leave by the way. I think there's there's a rule in place where they can still make a choice to to not attend that university anymore if something changes. But yeah, putting themselves so far behind the rest of the country in the coaching surf search that's something that I feel like they would, if they knew they were going to do it
right, they, would, have, probably, done, that before National Signing Day they, would, have, done, it, a, week, and, a half
to, get, the, coach, that, could, then, in theory retain their recruiting class ahead of time
right?, So,, yeah,, the, whole, thing, is very, very messy. Yeah, I I did I did throw out the theory. I was asking questions. Dave's going to sue me, he said. Now, he's going to sue everybody.
He's, going, to, sue, me, for, infringement, of the Michigan man. I was just simply asking the question
harassing,, man. I'm, going, to, say, I'll, say, this., I'm starting to think the whole Michigan man thing is is is kind of not real.
What, do, you, mean? I, just, listen, and, and, we, and, we, like both these guys so I can say this and I'm not they they obviously have nothing to do with this, but I do in times like this think of Rich Eisen and Adam Shfter and just them like being like, "Godamn it, we're Michigan men." Yeah.
How, could, this, happen? I've, been, thinking, about, Sheffy, all, day today. I have all day.
Also,, shout, out, to, right, now. Shout, out, to, Chefy., He, sent, very, nice Christmas.
Oh,, yeah., Yeah., Really, nice. He's, a, Kashmir, king. I, need, to, text, him.
Yeah., Uh, but, yeah,, I, uh that, was, the, pullover. Yeah. I, didn't, know, where, that, came, from., I didn't have a note in mind. I was confused. That makes sense.
It's, very, soft. It, is, so, soft., Thank, you,, Adam. If, I, I, think, I, own, three, cashmere, items and I think they're all from Adam Shfter.
Yeah. What, a, guy. He, knows, comfort., But, yeah,, he's I, was, so, confused., He's, uh, got, to, be, in hell right now. Rich Eisen makes me laugh thinking about him.
Oh, yeah., Because, it's, like, it's, like what what do you mean the Michigan men? What? We're Michigan men.
How, have, we, had, all, these, controversies? We're Michigan men. Yeah., There's, really, no, escaping, this one.
No,, this, one, was, bad., Um, really, bad., So where do they go from here? I do not know. I think they should have Well, we do have interim. I'm going to bet Michigan in the bowl game because it is going to be Biff.
Interim, Biff., Biff, is, Biff, is, a, guy, who can win a bowl game. He'd, be, a, legend., I, I, pitched, this, I pitched this
cannons to, Dave., Dave, didn't, bite, on, it,, but, I, I mean there's a coach out there that coached for the New England Patriots. He's won a Super Bowl. He's a great college coach, proven national championship winning college coach. Pete Carol. Why not Pete Carol for Dave? I think that would be a good fit.
I, don't, know, who, they're, going, to, hire. Brian Kelly would obviously be the funniest.
Brian, Kelly, would, be, very, funny., would be the funniest of like just cuz Michigan and Notre Dame hate each other and just having that Dave having to become a Brian Kelly guy would be very very funny.
Yeah,, I, the, name, I, thought, about, was, uh Bill O'Brien. Bill, O'Brien, was, a, a
what? And, did, you, see, how, his, football, team played this year? Yeah,, I, know, there's, that,, but
it's, really, bad. But, also,, he, was, a, he, was, a, very, good college coach in the Big 10 for Penn State. He took over the program when there was a actually after
Yeah., a, very, large, scandal. Yeah. And, then, when, he, coached, for, the, Texans, Arian actually told me that Bill O'Brien was his favorite coach, the best
I, believe, that offensive, mind, that, he, ever, played, for. I, just, don't, know., Michigan, I, feel, like they can't they can't hire a coach who who I think what they win two games this year. I don't even know. They were just non-competitive.
They, weren't, good. They're, going, to, get, someone, they're going to get It is funny because Michigan men are now going around being like, "You call everyone. You could you you even see is the ink dry on the Matt Campbell deal? Like you call you call Kalin Dbor, you call Dan Lanning. It's like I I don't know, man. This is seems like a pretty messy situation you're walking into.
I, think, Kalin, Dbor, might, pick, up, the phone. Well,, Larry, Ellison, money, Yeah.
would, make, you, want, to, pick, up, the phone. There, was, a, an, untraceable, jet, that, took off from Ipsellani to fly down to the airport that is closest to Nick Sabin today.
You, got, to, make, him, say, no. My, only, question, is untraceable., untraceable, meaning, meaning that uh they don't they don't publish the uh the tail number.
My, only, question, is, uh feels, illegal. What, and, and, obviously, there's, a, dark side of this so we're not making light of the dark side of this. Like I hope the the girl's okay. I feel bad for Shawn Moore's family. He's got three kids. That part is is bad. Like all of it that that part is bad. My the thing that I'm interested in and this will be answered far down the line. Is there a chance Shiron Moore talks about Connor Stallions
because, he, knew, a, lot like, he, flips. Well,, remember that'd be very Shiron Moore is meeting with the police right now and they're like, "Okay, tell us about what you did what you did today and yesterday he goes, I'll tell you everything about Conor St.
I, know, this, is, not, the, the, top, of, the line of like storylines, but like that that has to there has to be people in the Michigan building right now that are thinking like, "Oh, this is this could get bad because he was involved in all of it." And remember he uh he deleted all his texts with Connor Stallions because he was just so upset that a guy like that could be associated with the program.
Yeah,, he, was, furious. He, was, so, furious, he, deleted, all, the texts. Like, Well,, when, you're, a, guy, like, Shawn Moore and there's somebody that's putting the entire program in jeopardy you just want them completely. You you say, "No, sir. You're you're supposed to be a Michigan man."
When, I, get, mad, at, someone,, I, delete, all the texts with them. Y, I'm, so, [ __ ], mad.
Just, going, to, delete, every, time, I, ever talk to you. I do think Kalin Dbor would pick up the phone. Obviously, he's got his hands full right now with the playoffs. I think also Dillingham would pick up the phone.
Oh,, yeah., And, Michigan, will, be, fine overall. I don't This isn't like a program ender. It's a I mean, the other part of this, and this is again there's bigger stories here, but like he wasn't really that good of a coach. So he's like and he probably was going to be on the severe hot seat this year.
Mhm. You, wish, this, [ __ ], hadn't, happened, but, there's, probably, a, sect, of, Michigan fans are like, "Okay, well this is just the stuff is ugly, but this was going to happen next year anyway."
Yeah., Yeah., But, you, do, wish, that, this had come out, you know, a month, two months ago.
Yeah., Yeah., Did, was, there, a, rumor, that he was texting during the There's, a, lot, of, rumors, out, there., I don't know.
Yeah., I, don't, know., Uh, he, that'd, be crazy. There, was, I'll, just, say, that, would, be crazy.
There, was, an, Only, Fans, uh, model, who, said that he slid into her DMs. I, followed, her, on, her, Instagram, just, to I covering the story, so I might as well know every angle.
Yeah, you, got, to, You, can't, We, got, to, do, our jobs. I, I'm, that, way, with, uh, with, Jerry Oonnell. whenever he sends me an Instagram lady. I assume that the profile hasn't with fantasy football, so I'll follow her.
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What about pizza? Pizza?, What, about, a, chicken, parm? We, haven't, done, chicken, parm.
Chicken, parm's, good. What, about, uh, like, a, 12oot, sub? 12, foot, sub, would, be, good.
And, we, we, eat, it, from, the, outside, in. Yeah., What, was, that? I, actually, love, when, when, we, do, that.
Yeah., So,, that, was, a, good, sign. Yeah., No,, I, was, going, to, I, was, going, to do my salad bit again, but then you said the chicken parm sub that we like those big like like 12oot chicken parm subs. That's that's like my favorite lunch day that we do.
Do, they, make, duck, parm? Sure., I, don't, think, I've, ever, heard, of duck duck. Shut the [ __ ] up, Max.
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I'm, I'm, very, thankful, for, one, thing,, Big Cat. The fact that you have not done the thing that you've done in the past where you tell me the fraction of how far through the season we are.
But, it's cuz, I, don't, want, to, think, about, it., But once you say the number 15, it's impossible to not notice.
Yeah,, I, didn't, warn, you, this, year., I, was conscious of not warning you cuz I know you don't like when I do it, but I thought about it in my head when we got to like week nine and then but week 15 like it's we're we're in
we're, we, have, as, as, many, uh, regular season weeks left as we do playoff weeks. So that's like we're in the playoffs.
Yeah,, we, got, some, clinching, stuff, going on this weekend. We, also, have, a, very, funny, slate, of, no buys. Obviously, buys are over, but we have a, very, funny, slate, of, some, really good consequential games and then some 13-point spreads
which, I'm, okay, with., Uh, I'm, okay, with having, you know, a few very, very important games. I think there's there's a couple games this weekend where we've got uh two teams that are vying for the one seed that are on massive winning streaks.
Yeah. That, are, both, underdogs. Yes., This, weekend. So,, let's, start, with, it, because, we, have the Bills and the Patriots. Uh that is probably going to be TV.
Yeah,, TV, one., Bills, Well,, the, the, only other one would be uh Ravens, Bengals but I agree. I I think this is TV1.
This, is, it., This, is, a, big, matchup. Bills,, Patriots,, Patriots, are, one, and, a half point underdogs. Overunder is 49 a half. Did you know, Hank, that in their uh matchups, Drake May is 3-0 against the spread versus Josh Allen?
I, did, know, that., It's, pretty, good., is the only QB 3 and 0 against the spread or better verse Josh Allen. Now, that's obviously not straight up, but he did beat them straight up
earlier, this, year,, which, feels, like forever ago, but that was also the moment that if the torch was passed
the, torch, was, passed., Do, you, think there's a chance the torch gets passed back?
That, would, not, happen., If, the, Patriots lose, the torch torch is not getting passed back. That's not
been, You've, been, very, consistent, about that because I've been I I agree with you. I think that the torch could get passed back. That's just not how it works.
How, does, it, work?, Explain, it, to, us. The, torch, has, been, passed, and, that's, it.
It's, over., Yeah., So,, the, torch, is, going to die with Drake May. So,, if, the, That's, what, That's, how, it happens.
Memes, has, got, something, to, say. Think, about, the, Great, Wall. Joe, Milton, won, that, game., Joe, Milton. So, it's like
That's, a, good, point. It's, like, two, and0. We're, talking, about, the, torch, passing game. Memes
I, apologize., I, apologize., You're, right. But,, Hank,, no,, it, the, torch, will, have, to be passed. Like think you remember Lord of the Rings when they have to like light the light the beacon and it goes from like boom to boom to boom.
Yeah,, I, remember, the, boom, to, boom, to boom. Like, you, it, doesn't, get, passed, back., It just keeps going. Drake May has a torch and then it will go until we pass it to someone else.
But, wait,, what, happens, if, the, Bills, So this game is a t-shirt and hack game for you guys?
Yep. The, Bills, if, they, win, this, game, and, then the Patriots catch if the Bills have to win out and the Patriots have to catch another loss, I think they would. Do they have the tiebreaker? because it would I don't know what the tiebreaker would be.
I'm, not, sure, how, that, tiebreaker, would be. I, I, think, it, would, be the, Bills, are, technically, still, alive
in, conference, record., Would, it, not, be? Is, that, the, first, one? And, the, Bills
This, is, things, losers, worry, about., I'm not I'm not even thinking that. Well,, we're, trying, to, figure, this, out. How the Bills could still win the A They have a hard hard road to win the AFC East. I'm just asking if the Bills could win the AFC East, would you still say the torch was passed?
If, it, was, in, conference,, by, the, way,, it was conference record. It would be to the Bills because they have one NFC loss. The Patriots have would this would be their third AFC loss and then saying like they lost to the Ravens or something. Yeah. What is it? The tiebreaker for the AFC comes down to head-to-head record then division record,
common, opponents, and, conference, record. Oh, so actually it, would, actually, be, Patriots, if, they have end up with the same because the Bills lost to the Dolphins.
Huh., So So, you, guys, are, going to, win, the, AFC's? Hey, if the Bills won, I think you could say that it was a premature call of the torch passing on your part.
No. Is, that, what, you're, saying? No. But, it, can't, go, back., What, if, the, Bills beat the Patriots and the Bills win the the division?
If, they, win, the, division,, then, it's, we can have the conversation, but that's not going to happen.
Okay., But, is, that, conversation, going, to be the torch is going back to Josh Allen or I [ __ ] up, I was wrong in saying that the torch was ever passed?
It, would, be, that, the, I, [ __ ], up,, I, was wrong, the torch was ever passed. Okay. So, um, Hank, I I want to tell you something. I'm moving on from the Drake May 300 thing.
Oh. Even, though, I, think, he's, probably, gonna do it this weekend, but truthfully truthfully, I looked into it. The stat doesn't really mean anything at all. It's an arbitrary number. He's averaging like 280 yards a game or I think it's like 265, but he's averaging a whole lot of yards per game. So, who really cares if you go past 300? The number doesn't mean anything. I'm done trying to pick apart Drake May to make myself feel better because I was looking into the Patriots.
Well,, I'm, being, honest. No,, I, know., I, know., I'm, waiting., I'm, I'm This is
There, has, to, be, a No,, no,, no,, there's, not., I'm, on, the, edge of my seat for the rest of this.
No,, I, I'm, just, I'm, super, impressed, with the Patriots this year. I think that the Patriots Mike Vrabel is a great coach. He should be coach of the year.
Mike, Vrabel,, he's, got, his, team, playing for the first seed, the top number one seed in the AFC. And the last time he did that was with the Titans
back, in, 2021. That's, what, it, is. So, I, I, I, compared, the, two, teams, because I was like there a lot of similarities here.
Uh, the, quarterbacks,, you, got, two, 6'4, 220 lb guys. Ryan, Tanahill,, Drake, May.
Uh, Tanahill, incidentally, only, threw, for over 300 yards once that whole season. Again, showing you 300 doesn't
which, make, a, difference. Drake, May, could, still, do, that. Which, he, still, could., And, Tanah, Hill, was an awesome quarterback that year. who is people were talking about him like this guy is the future. He's the real deal.
Um, they, both, have, uh, Harold, Landry, at outside linebacker. Wow. Wow. Same, guy., Um, they, both, lost, the, first game of the season
and, then, overcame, that., Went, on, a, little tear. Both great defenses against the run. The Patriots allow four yards per carry. That Titans team allowed 3.9. Which, by the way, just as a side note this I feel like Milt Williams being out is is the this might be where it pops up because James Cook wasn't gonna pop up against the Giants.
This, could, be, the, game, where, James, Cook goes, you know, has a very nice game.
I, think, the, Bills, have, the, number, one rushing offense in the league. Yeah.
But, keep, going., Sorry. Okay., So,, overall,, the, Titans, were, the second best run defense. The Patriots are the third best right now. Uh passing defense, you guys had the edge on that one. You allow 6.8 yards per pass. the 2021 has his eyes closed.
Allow, 7.1., So,, you've, got, you've, got, the edge on that one. He's, fake, sleeping.
Uh, the, Titans,, they, had, 23, rushing touchdowns. He's, now, got, a in, 2021., The, Patriots, are, on, pace, for about 17. Uh the Titans averaged 21 first downs per game that year. Great offense. Patriots average 20 first downs. So, they're very similar teams. And it goes to show you that Mike Vrabel is the one commonality. He's a great coach. I will never not believe in a Mike Fable team. He's shown that he can do it back in 2021. The Tennessee Titans got the number one overall seed in the AFC that year. And I think what the Patriots are doing this year, it's going to be the you're going to to get that top seed behind the leadership of your great head coach Mike Frael. And so I'm done being a hater.
Great., That's, great, news., I'm, done, being Thank you for that. Yep. Thank, you, for, your, endorsement.
What, happened, with, that, Titans, team? I, actually, didn't, look, up, and, see., I just I remember that they got those numbers. One number one seed. They must have won at all.
Uh, they, lost, their, first, game, to, the Bengals in the playoffs that year. Um but that's that's irrelevant of what I'm trying to do. Big guy. I don't know why you have to be negative about it.
I, was, just, asking, a, question. Yeah,, I, I, remember, I, bet, the, Titans, in that game and Tanah Hill threw those three picks and it was just like how does he keep throwing those picks?
Yeah,, I, mean, you, got, to, do, in, the playoffs. That's the thing is like regular season great. Do it in the playoffs.
Agreed., Uh,, by, the, way,, the, Bills, are since 2020, they're 19 and three in the month of December. So, they get they're one of these teams. We talked about it last week with the Packers. They're one of these teams that gets better late as the season goes along. And Josh Allen is four touchdowns away from 300 career touchdowns, which would make him the first player ever to hit 300 touchdowns before the age of 30.
Wow. That's, pretty, crazy. That, is, Yeah. How, do, you, feel, about, this, game?, I, think the Patriots are going to win, but if we're being honest in the trust tree
let's, have, a, hard, conversation. The, fact, that, they, are, underdogs, there's there's like five of what feels like the biggest sucker underdogs on the board this week. Patriots, again, if I remove my bias from the situation, would be one where they're playing so good.
Yeah., their, 10-game, win, streak,, MVP quarterback, great defense at home against a team they already beat that's not playing the best right now. They should be favored.
The, fact, that, they're, not is, scary. Everyone's, going, to, look, and, be, like, "Wait, the way better than the Bills. They're underdogs.
Smash, the, Patriots. Smash, it." Is, this, almost, like, the, uh, the, Big, 10 Championship game where whichever team wins, that guy's more likely to get the MVP?
What?, like, Big, 10, championship, game. I, think, Stafford the winning quarterback.
He's, saying, the, Heisman for, the, Heisman, but, Josh,, it's, not, between Josh, Allen's, back, in, it.
Yeah,, Josh, Allen, is, definitely, in, one two. Stafford, they're, not, one, two,, but, Josh, Allen,, if
it, was, the, Patriots, Rams,, I, would, say yes. It's, Stafford, right, now,, Drake, May, Jordan Love, Josh Allen. Those are the four.
So,, no,, bad, comparison. But, between, those, two,, I, would, say, that whoever wins this game might have a better chance.
Well,, duh., Duh. Okay., Oh,, you, got, dud. That's, pretty, much, what, I'm, saying.
You, got, dud,, PFT. Damn. That, was, good., Duh., That, was, good., That was a good game. We need We needed We needed that.
The, d, the, d, was, solid. If, one, of these, quarterbacks, plays, good and their team wins the game
against, the, other, one, in, a, head-to-head match up, you dumb [ __ ] It's, not, how, that's, not, how, it, m, No.
You, don't, think, you, think, the, Do, you think Seyan and Mendoza, you think that game mattered for the Heisman?
I, think, it, mattered, a, little, bit., I think what PFT is trying to say is that whoever wins this game is going to end up finishing second to Matthew Stafford and MVP.
The, Matthew, Stafford, and, Drake, May, have been flip-flopping. They're they're they're week by week. Obviously, Drake May didn't play last week, but
it's, really, going, to, be, it's, the, dumb, I actually hate that this is how awards have worked in football now because the Heisman coming down to the Big 10 Championship and being like whatever quarterback wins. The MVP in the NFL is just whichever quarterback has the one or two seed. That's really it. It's not really much more than that.
So,, which, is, kind, of, stupid. Um,, so, Drake, May,, you, said, that, he, would go to three and 0 against the Bills.
Uh,, he, is, three, and, 0, right, now, against the spread against and then Joe Joe Milton was the quarterback last year. Yeah, they started, but yeah
Drake, May, started, and, then, got, hurt, in that game. So,, it's, starts, three, and, 0, against spread.
Um,, the, Bills, on, defense, have, been, very good against the past. Christian Benford. Here's a crazy stat about Christian Benford. He allowed zero catches to Jamar Chase. He was matched up with him 16 times. Uh he has now held Chase, Amecha Ibuka, DK Metaf, and Drake London to a grand total of zero receptions this year
across, all, those, receivers. He's, also, the, only, player, in, the, NFL this season with two interceptions, two sacks, and two defensive TDs.
And, they, were, back, to, back,, right? Yeah. Yeah., I'm, excited., I, don't, think, I'm excited to see Josh Allen uh he hasn't played in a game like at Foxboro in in these circumstances where you know Foxboro is going to be rocking.
It, is, uh, it, does, feel, like, should, be, a night game. This game should be Sunday football.
I, agree. Whatever. I, think, like, if, the, Patriots, had, lost the I this is really obvious, but if the Patriots had lost the first matchup, I would I would like the Patriots in this game. But the fact that they won it it's like I just I think these when you have two really good teams in division they feel like they they split.
But, yeah,, and, this, is,, you, know,, why like when you ask me about the teams I'm worried about, it's this is the reason where it's like Josh, this is a proven team. The Bills are a proven successful juggernaut team. Patriots want to get there. This is a game, but going into it, it's it's, you know, I'm not at like 100% confidence this is definitely a win for us. If you lose this game, will the sky be falling a little bit?
No,, it, depends., It's, similar, to, it's it's it's it's the same comparison I'd say to the the Bears Packers where it's like if it's a close loss that can be built upon if it's a blowout sky might be, you know, there might be some cracks in the sky and and but but I don't think it's
because, like, that, pack, the, Packers, Bears game last week, I said after the game a good loss
but, if, the, Bears, had, continued, to, play like they played in the first half in the second half, it would have been a little sky is falling
right?, because, it, would, have, been, like, whoa, we're not even close. But, you, just, need, Yeah,, you, need, worst case scenario, it's got to be close and they have to be and they have to be in the fight and fighting.
Can, I, flip, my, advisers, pick, to, the, over in this game? I, would, like, to, officially
I, don't, know. All, right,, so, I'm, saying, this, before advisers comes out. I I've thought about it more. I cannot bet the
might, be, snowing. I, can't, bet, the, under, in, a, Drake, May verse Josh Allen game. So I'd like to I'd like to formally flip that. I do think that one and a half points for the Bills that that does seem a little fishy, doesn't it?
Very, very, fishy., Like, somebody, knows something. Ste, might, know, the, score, before, it happens.
Somebody, might, know, something, about, this one. Okay,, next, game., So, official, prediction.
Patriots, by, two. Well,, give, us, a, score. 3432. Oh,, definitely, over, then.
Yeah. Got, to, hit, the, over., Live, over. That's, actually, terrible., 32, is, insane number. Whatever.
What?, 343., 431. Oh,, so, the, pages, by, three. Yeah. Okay. Okay., Um,, next, game,, Ravensus, 2, and a half at the Bengals over under 512. Are we a little nervous about Joe Burrow's comments in the press this week where I don't I don't want to guess how he's feeling,
but yeah, it, gave, me, some, Andrew, Luck, vibes., He said, "If I want to keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it. I've been through a lot. It's not if it's not fun then what am I doing it for? There's just a lot of things going on right now. I That was that when I saw that, I got instantly bummed out.
Yeah,, I, I, was, pretty, bummed, out, about it. I was like, you know, Joe's a thoughtful guy. Sometimes he takes a while to think through his answers and he doesn't feel rushed up there and his cadence isn't always like the most gregarious or outgoing. So, maybe I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. And then I saw it was also on his birthday that he said that.
And, he, that, he, did, seem, very, bummed, out for a birthday. Yeah, that, didn't, seem, like, a, birthday attitude from Joe. Uh then everybody started pulling up all the stats of how much he got hit over the years. Compared it to Andrew Luck and it's a pretty comparable comparable rate. I think he's gotten sacked more than Andrew Luck despite having played
way, less, games, than, him., Um, it's, it's taken a toll on Joe. Yeah., And, I, I, don't, know if, it's, a unique problem to Joe Burrow. I I would actually be surprised. I would if you were to ask like every NFL player, do you have fun playing football?
Well,, I, think, winning, is, fun., That's, the problem is he I think that this this doesn't get said if if they're if they're nine and four, not four and nine.
Right. But, yeah,, I, I, would, say, there's, probably parts of the job that are not fun.
Yeah., A, lot, of, the, job, I, think, probably would anytime you lose and then every every season except if you win the Super Bowl uh you just leave and and you feel super bummed out for like 3 weeks.
Yep. So, I, I, hope, that, Joe's, doing, okay., I know that he's like he's a very confident guy. So if he's actually not having fun
he'll, just, he'll, feel, like, he's comfortable making the decision saying I'd like to not play football anymore.
Yeah. Um, but, it, bummed, me, out., It, did. I, don't, I, don't, want, to, see, Joe, Bur, I don't want to lose Joe Burrow uh before Yeah. I just don't I I like watching Joe Burrow play football.
I, do, too., And, there's, I, mean, also, a possibility that he could just not like playing football in Cincinnati
and, and, other, people, have, had, that, same thought over the years. Other quarterbacks have had that same thought.
Yes. So, that, could, also, be, part, of, the equation. Yeah., The, Carson, Palmer., Yeah., If, you wanted to go Carson Palmer instead of uh instead of the Andrew Luck vibe to it.
Yeah., But, it, did, bum, me, out, hearing, him talk like that. Yeah., Big, time., Uh, Lamar, he hasn't looked right, but I actually think he played better in the second half against the Steelers. And I'm thinking maybe, and Lamar is one of those quarterbacks similar to Josh Allen in the Bills, like he gets better as the season goes in terms of regular season. He gets better as the season goes uh longer and longer and like in the end of the seasons. He usually picks it up a little bit to to a certain extent.
To, a, certain, extent and, then, it, goes, too, long and, then, it, goes, too, long., But, they, the the Ravens right now are in a situation where I think if they win on Sunday they then control their own destiny. Is that right?
I, think, so., They, could, also, win, the, AFC North at 7 and 10. Yeah, that's, a, possibility,, too., If, they, beat the Steelers
they, could, get, there. They, Yeah., So,, it's,, you, know,, the Ravens have had a weird season that hasn't gone well, but they're still right there and they have everything in front of them.
You're, right,, though,, like, Lamar, does not, he doesn't look right and he's not nearly as fast as he has been. I saw a stat that was like in
in, the, weeks, before, he, got, injured, this year, he was running at an average of like 15 mph when he had the ball and now it's down to 11 miles an hour. Yeah. So I think after the season's over, we're probably going to get that that classic like
hockey, players, do, this, a, lot, or, LeBron James does this a lot. Right. When the season's over, we're going to find out that Lamar Jackson like didn't have a hamstring this year, right?
And, he's, going, to, have, to, just, like, be immobilized for for about a month.
That, all, makes, sense, now., Uh,, I, did, our our weekly hit with the Pittsburgh radio people on Wednesday morning and they had a guest in studio. Do you know who that guest was?
Who? It, was, Jean's, territory. Oh. Which, we, should, have, him, on, the, show., We should have him on the show.
I, like, Gan,, but, I, I, did, not, know, that, he was going, to, be, on, there,, but, I, had, the opportunity to press him a little bit about what happened in that Ravens Steelers game. And uh, and Gene was saying they applied the rule correctly but it's a shitty rule.
Okay., And, uh, I, I, disagree, with, him, on that because I think that likely continuing to extend the ball should count as a football act.
I'd, agree because, yeah,, he, didn't, initiate, the football act after the second foot came down, but he continued doing the football act he was already doing.
Yes. I, don't, know., It's, more, of, like, a philosophical thing. But then I asked him, "Has the NFL considered doing the ACC model or the EPL model where they go to replay review and you get the entire behind the scenes aspect of it where you get to hear the guys talking about what they're looking at, how they're evaluating it." And he was like, "The NFL is never going to do that because they like having a little curtain there.
They, don't, want, to, see, how, the, sausage gets made." You, don't, want, to, see, how, I, think, his words were, you don't want to see the guy that looks like he's a 13-year-old with an Xbox controller. Yeah.
That's, controlling, the, replay, on, that. Yeah., And, he, also, confirmed, that, that Butterworth is a real guy. Mark Butterworth is a real human being. But I also got the vibe from him that maybe the uh the actual on the field refs don't necessarily respect the replay refs.
They, don't, respect, Butterworth. Well,, the, first, thing, that, he, said, was, "Yeah, I mean, he's uh he's great at his job. He was never a real ref. Uh never spent time on the field
actually, refereeing, the, games,, but, he's very but he's very good and those replay guys are very good at doing the replay. So, I feel like there's a big beef between
There's, a, bunch, of, button, pushers. Yeah., You, got, the, analog, refs, and, the digital refs. And I don't think the analog refs have any respect at all for the guys behind the screen.
They're, just, looking, at, screens., Yeah. They're, playing, video, games, back, there. We're out here. They They look at themselves like NFL players look at themselves right?
And, then, the, guys, behind, the, screen. That's like the fantasy refs. Put, a, jersey, on.
They, haven't, seen, the, field, on, a, Sunday, right? Yeah. They, don't, know, the, They, don't, know games. You've never been in a locker room?
Yeah., nerds, sitting, in, their, mom's basement watching NFL games. You, never, checked, for, PSI, before, a, game.
You've, never, gotten, Yeah., rolled, over, by a running back going to the sideline.
Um,, by, the, way,, so, obviously, Joe, Bro beat Lamar Jackson on Thanksgiving night, but Lamar Jackson is 6-2 overall in the series. Here's the Lamar Jackson stat that I was looking up. That's crazy. Uh Lamar Jackson, anyone want to guess what his record is weeks 15 through, 18, in, the, regular, season?, It's a straightup record. 15 through 18. Weeks 15 through 18.
Trying, to, think, how, many, years, he's played. Uh I'm going to say he is it's, 15, games.
Okay. Cuz, he's, been, injured, some, of, the, years. I, think, he's, 13, and, two., Eight, and seven.
He's, 15, and0., Wow. 15-0., Weeks, 15, through, 18., No,, he, that's it's pretty crazy. Now, there's Yeah there's some years that he did get hurt uh and had a couple like the what what year was it? I think there was a the 2021 season. He had a loss in week 13, a loss in week 14, then got hurt. So, he didn't play weeks 15 through 18. He had two losses there. So, but that is pretty crazy when he's playing.
It's, pretty, nuts. And, the, Ravens, are, always, the, team, that starts out super injured and then they get healthy as the season goes on. backs against the wall.
The, one, thing, with, the, Ravens, that, is, you know, the Lamar Jackson has not looked great and it's also the red zone offense. So, the red zone offense for the Ravens in 2023 ranked seventh. So 61.8%. So, when they get in the red zone, they score a touchdown 61.8% of the time. Last year, they were first 74.2%. This year, they're 30th, 44.9%. So, worse than half. half the time they get in the red zone, they do not score a touchdown. That's bad.
Really, bad. That's, where, the, that's, where, you, can say that things have fallen apart. And uh yeah, I'm still kind of buying Ravens stock, but I just
I, I, don't, know., They're, just, a, weird They're a weird team this year. You, have, them, on, a, watch, list, right, now.
Yeah,, I, have, them, watch, list. All right., Do, you, think, uh, you, think there's any possibility we would see John Harbaugh leave and go to Michigan?
I, do, not. It, would, be, cool. It'd, be, cool. It, would, be, cool., I, do, not, though,, but it would be cool.
Do, you, think, that, John, Harbaugh, is, going to stick around in Baltimore if they don't make the playoffs? If the se if if they lose out?
I, feel, like, it's, just, they're, the, I can't I feel like Tomlin and Harbaugh are a package deal. I know that sounds really stupid. They they coach different teams.
No,, I'm, saying, like, I'm, saying, in, the It's, going, to, be, like, when, when, a 89year-old woman dies and then a week later her husband dies. They're they're going to, leave, at, the, same, time naturally,
but, it's, all, it's it's, going, to, be, more so like if the Ravens fire John Harbaugh, the Steelers are going to be like, "Oh, we didn't know we could do that."
I, don't And, then, and, then, they'll, do, that, with Tomlin. So, one of them's going to make the playoffs. So, I don't I think both will survive this year.
I, think, the, Steelers, are, actually waiting for the Ravens and Harbaugh to move on. It's like a point of pride to It's like no matter what, we're going to keep him.
We, want, this. He's, going, to, stick, around, for, at, least a week after Harbaugh is gone. But I yeah I think both organizations don't even realize you can fire.
Yeah. So, next, game, is, another, big, one., So these are the three big ones that we'll have in prominent spots on the TVs. Chargers to Chiefs. Chiefs minus 5 and a half over under 41 a half.
Trap, all, three, traps. I, I, was, going, to, say, I, I, love, the, Chiefs in this game. And I'm saying that from a point of uh I'm not someone who's been chasing the Chiefs every single week. Last week actually on our best bets. I had the Texans. I liked the Texans last week. I thought that was a game that made no sense to me that the Texans were going to be within a field goal no matter what. They ended up winning outright.
This, feels, like, a, huge, trap., Everyone watched the Chargers win on Monday night. Everyone watched the Chiefs lose on Sunday night. Now the Chargers are getting five and a half points. Huh. Chiefs by two touchdowns.
It's, pretty, crazy, because, the, Chiefs,, it is it's a must-win. If they lose, they could be out this weekend.
Oh, yeah., No,, they're, out. It's, not, It's, not, that, crazy, to, be, like mathematically eliminated. If they lose and the Bills beat the Patriots
the, Jags, beat, the, Jets, and, the, Texans beat the Cardinals. Well,, if, they, then, the, Chiefs, as, of Sunday will be eliminated.
And, even, if, they, lose,, they, won't technically be eliminated, but they will be eliminated pretty much. Yeah.
Because, like, if, you, look, at, who's playing who, the Texans have a couple of games that they should definitely win. the the uh Chargers have I think a game or two that they should win. I think they play the the well the Broncos might not start in one week 18. That's actually what it's all gearing up to which kind of sucks that the way the Chiefs can get into the playoffs. They obviously have to win on Sunday and they need the Chargers to lose another game and then lose to the Broncos week 18. Yeah,
but, there's, a, good, chance, the, Broncos could be, whether they're the one or two seed, wherever it may be, they could be set in their seeding, not play anyone. And, you know, the Broncos would love to not play anyone to keep the Chiefs out of the playoffs.
Yeah., So,, if, uh, if, Kansas, City, even, wins out, if they win all their games right now, they're at a 46% chance to make the playoffs
because, it's, all, about, that, Chargers bronies. It's, all, because, it, all, it's, all, about what happens at the end of the season.
Yeah., like, the, Chargers., I, was, looking, I was playing with the machine the other day and the Chargers who I believe who do the Chargers have left? I know they have the Texans is one of their games but I'm pretty sure the Chargers could lose their next three games and then beat the Broncos and still get in over the Chiefs.
So,, do, you, think, that, the, Chargers, take their foot off the gas? Uh,, I, do, not., Oh,, yeah., The, Chargers, So, the Chargers played the the the Chiefs at Dallas
Houston,, at, Denver., Obviously, not, an easy schedule, but again, as long as they as long as they win that game against the Broncos, they're gonna most likely, be, in, at least, over, the, Chiefs.
I'm, interested, to, see, what, Justin Herbert looks like because on on Monday he did not look like he was comfortable playing football. No, like he was okay running the ball. He was he was like you know, very gutsy and at the end of the game, he kind of put it on his own on his own shoulders, but I don't know if he's going to be super effective at at throwing the ball downfield. Yeah it's it's I I just I I think this is I think this might be the game that like the Chiefs because if you look at the Chargers, they've had an interesting season where they've had obviously some big wins, but they've also had you remember that game against the Jaguars a few weeks ago where they just piled they got piled on.
I, think, there's, a, chance, this, could, be, and I'm calling my shots, so this might look really stupid because the Chiefs have not given us any reason to think that they could do this, but it does feel like this is the spot and the line makes no sense. I agree. It's like, why is this five and a half?
It, doesn't., It, doesn't, at, all. And, And, again,, it's, the, two, It's, coming off two prime time games. You watch the Chargers win, you watch the Chiefs lose you put them together. Shane said it when when he was talking about at SoFi. No one was open for the Chargers. I don't know. And they can't block up front. And the Chiefs, their defense, their their pass rush hasn't gotten home, but they should get home against a Chargers team that can't block. I think Mahomes's going to maybe do the dink and dunk down the field.
Yeah, I like the Chiefs in this game. Did, you, know, that, Philip, Rivers obviously returning for the Colts this week?
Mhm. He, already, returned, this, year, at, the start of the year. He signed a one-day contract to retire as a member of the Chargers.
Oh,, wow. What, happens, to, that, one-day, contract? What guarantees were there? Is there any offset language?
No,, they, got, to, do, it, again. They, have, to, do, another., So,, after, the season's over, he's going to resign a one-day contract to do it again. Shane was saying that the Chargers should get compensatory picks.
I, agree because, he, signed, with, the, Chargers, and then he signed again with another team.
I, agree, Hank., How, much Wait,, did, the, Chargers, ever, did, they release him or put him on waivers?
It, was, a, one, day, contract. It's, a, one, day, contract,, but, a, lot, of times you retain the guy's rights. Like I mean, look at uh
I, don't, think, so. The, guy, from, the, Lions five, years, ago. Yeah,, but, he, retired, with, a, contract still going.
I'm, just, saying Phil, Rivers, wasn't, on, the, Chargers, when he retired. A one-day con. Yeah. A one-day contract
right?, That, those, aren't, real. Well,, that's, what, Max, and, I, are, talking about.
Yeah. Like,, what, kind, of, rights, go, along, with a one-day contract? One, day.
I, would, try, to, enforce, some, of, those., I would I'd file a grievance if if I'm Jim Harbaugh.
How, much, are, you, hoping, that, that Patrick Mahomes doesn't make the playoffs? Not just because of
So, much., Are, you, kidding, me?, Not, just because of playing the Chiefs potentially, but also the stat that gets floated around now, which is a crazy stat
that, Tom, Brady, never, took, a, snap, in, the NFL with his team eliminated. Yeah., I, mean,
which, is, an, insane, stat., In, the, regular season, he never took a snap in the NFL. He did he not make He didn't make the playoffs uh at least one year, but the team was still alive.
They, were, still, alive, in, week, 16., Yeah. So, he never took a snap when his team was eliminated from the playoffs. Yeah, I mean Mahomes is on the wrong side of 30. This at the same age. This was Brady's obviously they lost a Super Bowl, but it was, you know, the perfect season, record-breaking year, and then he won four Super Bowls after that season. So, I I'm always on the the I hated the narrative going into the Super Bowl last year that, you know, Mahomes was going to be ahead of Brady if they won, they lost, then they don't make the playoffs. He's kind of old, fatter slower.
Andy, Reed's, on, his, way, out., Kelsey's, on his way out. Tyreek Hill walking through that door. It would it would be a real shame.
Older,, fatter,, slower. Unlike, Brady, who, sped, up, at, the, end, of his career, added the second dimension of the run.
Well,, but, yeah,, but, he, was, always, a pass. He was always a gunslinger. You, sell, that, shirt., Older,, fatter, slower.
Mhm., I, I, don't, like, that, you're, body shaming him. Yeah,, I, don't, either., He's, a, father.
Yeah,, that's, kind, of I, would, argue, that, Patrick, Mahomes, is also a gunslinger.
Not, anymore., Have, you, seen, him, throw, the deep ball this year? No, but I'm you were like Tom Brady was always a gunslinger,
but, Patrick, Mahomes, it's, not, like, Patrick, Mahomes, was, like, a like an a quarterback.
He, was, comparatively, speaking,, he, was infinitely more dynamic with his feet than Brady was.
Well,, I, haven't, looked, up, Mahome's, MVP years, he was like, you know, scrambling around, running around, getting first downs. Like
I, haven't, looked, up, the That, was, a, huge, part, of, his, game., But Patrick talking yards on Sunday night.
Patrick, Mahomes, might, be, the, leading rusher on the Chiefs this Yeah, he he still can run.
It's, not, as, fast. Okay. I, I, would because, it's, the, older,, fatter. I, think, he's, fatter, faster.
Yeah. Older,, fatter,, faster. Harder, to, bring, down. They're, going, to, make, the, playoffs. They're going to win this game by 30. They're, going to, make, the, playoffs.
You, keep, doing, this. It's, going to, be, Bills,, Chiefs,, Ravens. They're all going to be in.
Let, me, look, up, these, stats, for, Mahomes. I'm curious because he is running the ball a lot this
year. Yeah,, he, ran, the, ball., He, he, I, think, he had 60 plus yards. Uh, he's, no, longer, the, leading, rusher. Kareem Hunt has 545 yards. Patrick Mahomes is in second with 47 yards.
Because, every, game,, at least, down, this stretch, has been a playoff game. And you know one thing about Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, he's going to use his feet to get first down.
Yeah,, he's, averaging, 6.6, yards, per carry Hank. It's, pretty, good. Older,, fatter,, faster.
That's, pretty, damn, good. It's, all, right. Okay,, we're, going, to, go, into, the, games that are now uh higher spreads. Starting with Browns at Bears. Bears minus seven and a half over under 38 and a half. It's going to be cold. It's going to be cold.
Yeah. Wind, chill., Bear. And, it's, going to, get, warm, again, on Monday. I, guess, I, kind, of, had, like, the, moment where I saw that stat about the the weather in Chicago and it didn't hit me that that was the weather that I would be living in.
Like, I, was, like,, "Oh,, that's, going, to, be miserable." And then like I was like a couple hours I was like, "Fuck. We're going to be sitting on our couch. That's where we live."
On, Sunday,, I, think, it, was, like, -4, was the low. Maybe 12 was the high, but the wind chill is probably going to be like -10. Zack, what about 46 on Thursday?
46, on, Thursday., We, got, to, get, to Thursday. Yeah,, we, got, to, get, to, Thursday.
There's, a, world, where, we, don't, get, to Thursday. But, yeah,, it's, going, to, be, cold., It's going to be very, very cold game.
Sure, is, going, to, get, blobbed. Yep., We're, going, to, He's, going, to, get blobed for sure. Wind chill. I am nervous about this game just because I think the Browns when we talk about it every single week that the Browns are in every, game, at least, at, halftime, and, you don't want to [ __ ] around in a situation like that.
Yeah., The, one, thing, the, Browns, have going against them is their I think their entire right side of their offensive line is hurt.
They, got, three, guys. Center, guard, tackle., Yep. That's, not, good., Especially, for, a, team that wants to run the ball. What?
Concerned, about, this, being, a, look, ahead. Uh, it, it's, not, a, look, ahead., It, would, be a trap game. It's it's the definition of a trap game because you got the Packers on each side.
But, it's, a, little, bit, different, for, for the Bears because they know that these are the games they got to win.
Yeah. They, you, got, to, get, fat, on, these, games. It's, a, can't, lose., It's, not, a, must-win. can't lose. Cannot lose this game. And yeah, I'm I'm I am sufficiently ears perked up. Don't let the Browns hang around in a weird cold weather game where you just don't know what's going to happen.
So,, watching, the, Titans, run, against, them last week. It did. It actually didn't seem like the Browns did that bad of a job outside of a a couple breakout plays. Mhm.
Are, you, thinking, like,, yeah,, that, we're going to, go, back, to, to, our, running, game like we did against the Eagles and we're we're going to be able to find something that works against the Browns.
Yeah,, I, mean, the, the, Browns, did, lose Malik Collins, which is big for their defensive line. I don't know if that was the only reason why they were run on like they were run on uh by the Titans but yes, I think there will be a lot of running in this game from the Bears. And the Bears weakness, the pass rush. If the Browns have an entire offense, half of an offensive line out, you should be able to get home a little bit. Sure does hold on to the ball.
So,, just, take, care, of, business., Don't, I don't care how it looks. Just win the game.
Worried, about, Quinch, Sean a, little, bit. Qu, I, I, like, Quan. Sure., The, Bears, could, be, run, on, and Kyler Gordon doesn't look like we had him for a game and then he got hurt again in warm-ups and looks like he's out now. Jaylen Johnson's still trying to work his way back. like the the the cold. I don't give a [ __ ] about the cold obviously because we're sitting inside and on our couch and we don't give a [ __ ]
I'm, worried, about, cold, in, terms, of injuries. Like guys who are coming back from injuries, guys who are who have like a Jaylen Johnson who has not played a lot this year. Those are the things that make me nervous about the cold.
Yeah., Yeah., So, I, think, the, Bears, got, them., I, like, the Bears in this game a lot.
I, expect, them, to, win., I, do, think, if, you were betting this game, I I don't know if I would take mine 7 and 1/2.
I, I, don't, like, taking, seven, and, a, half. Correct. Ever. Right., In, a, in, a, game, that, could, be weird and you like I I think Ben Johnson's plan in this game is win it any way you can. Doesn't matter how it looks.
And, you, might, get, carolled., You, might get, peeled, at, the, end, of the, game.
Could, get, Pete, Carol., Could, get, Pete Carol. But yeah, Kevin Bard said, "Uh, I don't really believe in trap games as the NFL. Everyone is out there playing for something." He's right. Playing on tape.
Uh,, you, remember, when, Caleb, and, Shador played in college? Yes. That, was, an, awesome, game.
Yes,, that, was, an, awesome, game., That, was a That was a big noon kickoff. Great.
Remember, it, was, like, it, it, was, local time 9:00 a.m. Yeah., And, 10, a.m.
I, think, each, quarterback, had, four touchdowns that game. Yeah. I, I, get, excited, when, I, see, rematches, of quarterbacks that I remember those games they played in college. Like when Baker and Patrick Mahomes play against each other. Yes.
I'm, like, it'll, it'll, be, the, same, game. But, yeah., Yeah., Th, those, games, you're like, "Oh man, look how many yards they put up. It's going to happen again."
Yeah., Ben, Johnson's, quote,, I, just, want to say it because I loved it so much and I'm gonna just keep saying it in my head over and over. He said they were a he was asked about the playoffs and he said, "We will be a playoff team once we earn enough wins to become a playoff team. Right now, we are a nine- win team and I don't think nine wins is going to get you in this year. So, we have to do what we can to get enough wins to find a way to get into the tournament."
Hank,, do, you, want, to, do, you, want, to, say the line? What? The, no, duh. The, duh., Yeah.
Yeah., Well,, that's, but, it, needs, to, be said. We're nine team. Duh. No, playoff, team.
But, no,, but, that, Yeah,, it was, a, good, D., It wasn't, as, dull. It, wasn't, as, dull, as, yours.
Mine, was, Mine, was You, had, asked, him,, "Do, you, think, if, you win enough games, you'll to make the playoffs that you'll be in the tournament?"
Duh. I, thought, my, my, question, was, very relevant. You, know what?, I'm, going, to, bet, on whoever wins that game. And I'm not going to give you a penny of the money.
Okay., Uh,, next, up,, Commanders, Giants. Giants ow me $8,000. Giants, minus, 2, and a, half, over, under, 46. I'm waiting till this season where we got
Yeah. Like, that, could, just, reverse., I'm waiting till you, guys, have, been, playing, a, lot, of golf.
Well,, yeah., That's, the, thing, is, there, is I I most of my not hatred, but most of my needling over Drake May comes from the fact that I am legitimately concerned that I might owe Hank $50,000
but, it, would, only, be, 42. More, golf. Yeah. All right., Commanders, of, Giants., Giants minus, 2, and, a, half, over, under, 46, and a half. Is Jaden Daniels playing?
Nope. No. Nope., We're, going, to, We're, going, to, get that elbow healthy. Why the [ __ ] was Jaden Daniels playing last week if he was going to land on his arm and just reinjure it? That makes no sense to me.
Shouldn't, have, thrown, the, pick. It, makes, no, sense, to, me. Are, you, pick, shaming?, Shouldn't, have been there.
Yeah,, sometimes. You, got, to, ask, what, what, what, was, he doing in that position?
Sometimes, picks, aren't, bad. That, was, bad, pick. Where, I, I, saw, the, saddest, thing., PFT., Uh our friend Tailgate Teddy. Yeah, he's going for
he, has, he, has, uh, he, has, win, he, has stakes for for when the commanders win a game.
Yeah. Had, to, put, the, stakes, in, the, freezer., He said probably not going to have these steaks till next year.
No,, those, are, going, to, be He, made, a, video., I, was, like,, Teddy,, you probably should probably should just eat the steaks and just get new steaks cuz you don't want to have steaks in the freezer for 9 months.
Those, are, 2026. But, it, was, so, sad., He, just, did, a, video just being like, well, I bought these steaks. Was going to do it cuz I thought we were going to beat the Vikings.
Yeah,, he's, going, through., It's, like, it's another another game. He's, firmly, in, the, camp, of, uh, of, play Jaden as much as you can and uh he should not play this weekend.
Football, players, play. Yeah., But, he, shouldn't, have, played, last weekend if you're going to land on your arm and then you're going to have to go out of the game. Like that's not you're not ready to play at that point.
Yeah., But he hasn't like he hasn't really played a lot this year and it hasn't looked good when he has played. So he like you kind of want to get a little momentum going into next year, right?
If, he's, healthy., Yeah. Yeah., No,, I, I, going, into, the, game, last week, I said the same thing. I said, if he's healthy, I think it's important for you to get a few reps out there, for you to get, you know, some live action with your teammates, get into a rhythm, try to work your way out of this hole, get some confidence going.
But, if, you're, going, to, get, hurt, just, by landing on it, then you shouldn't be out there playing in the first place. That's that's a a detriment to the team. I
I, like, the, Commanders, in, this, game., Hank Hank showed us last week that Marcus Mariota is better than Jaden Daniels this year. I don't I don't like the commanders in this game at all. Uh they need to look alive though. Last week they were they looked dead.
Why, don't, you, like, them? That, was, a, dead, because, they, look, dead last week.
Yeah,, but, it's, week, to, week., I, mean, the Vikings look dead the week before.
That's, what's, so, concerning, about, us looking dead against a dead team. No,, but, the, the, Vikings
got, shut, out, and, then, shut, someone, out and you got shut out. Now you got to shut them out.
Bad, quarterback, to, good, quarterback. Commanders. Yeah,, you, had, Marota, played
to, good, quarterback. Which, team?, Whi, which, offense, looked better, Hank? The offense with Jaden Daniels or the offense with Marcus Mariota?
Uh, Marcus, Mariota, with, in, the, Broncos game looked good. No,, I, was, talking, about, the, Vikings game.
I, stopped, watching, it, was, like, 20, I, like there's, no, reason, to, watch., But, what, I'm saying we we look dead against a dead team. So that now I'm thinking we're dead.
I, agree, with, you., I'm, with, you., I'm dead., We're, dead., I, actually our, our, defense, is, the, worst, in, the, NFL and Adam Peters has he's probably got some big plans for this offseason like probably signing Brandon Iayuk or whoever the 49ers decide to cut because that's all we do is we get the 49ers sloppy seconds on everything. Uh it it doesn't seem like we're in a great position right now going into next year. We need to change up almost everybody on defense. Pretty much everybody on defense is going to be gone. When a bad team gets blown out by 30 plus they are 9768 and four against the spread the next game.
So, there, you, go., Not, dead. Not, dead., Maybe, we, can, cover, against Well, the Giants
it's, two, and, a, half., So, you, if, you're going to cover, you're probably going to win.
E, both, of, these, teams, are, are, a, bad, spot right now. We are on an eightgame losing streak. The Giants are on a sevengame losing streak. But the Giants losing streak feels like it's a lot better than our losing streak.
What, was, that, from, the, booth? Uh, we've, decided, that, I, think, we're talking too much about this game. Oh okay., All right. I was just trying to make the point that I I'm going to I'm going to bet the Commanders. I think they're going to be able to run the ball down the throat of the the Giants because everyone runs on the Giants.
I, would. And, I, think, Marcus, Mariota, has, done, a decent enough job with this offense this year that I I Yeah, I like the I like the Commanders in this game.
I, understand, the, logic., I, I, just, I'm very down on on the defense especially.
Okay., Too, much, on, that, game, from, the booth. I, disagree,, Max., It, is, a, big, game, for Tankathon.
Yeah., Yeah., We, missed, we, we, buried, the lead. This is a tankathon game. This, is, a, huge, tankathon, game., If, the, if the Commanders win this game, they're going to they're going to vault to like 910. If they lose this game, the Giants are going to go from the first pick to somewhere in the five range. It's huge game.
Yeah., So,, ultimately, by, by, me,, that's what it is. I'm so confident we're going to lose because I know that losing this game is actually a big win.
Mhm. Get, us, in, the, top, five. Okay., Next, game,, Raiders, Eagles., Eagles - 11 1/2 over under 38 1/2. Max, I know we talked about it a lot on Tuesday. How are we feeling now? The rabbit, the bunny is gone. I almost So, the the good vibes bunny has been removed from the locker room.
I, was, very, close, to, texting, Big, Dom asking if I could have it, but I thought that would probably be a bad text to send.
Did, they, stab, it? I, don't, know., I, don't, know. It's, crazy., AJ, Dylan, is, the, one, that brought that into
Oh,, that, is, crazy. He, hasn't, played, in, like, 3, months. Has, that, been, reported,, Max?
Oh,, yeah. I, also AJ, Dylan, is, the, one, that, brought, the, the positivity rabbit.
It, sounds, like, a, guy, that, if, he's, around the office and he doesn't really do a whole lot and he's like, I'll bring I'll bring some pizzas.
It's, exactly, what, it, is., And, fourth string running back. Yeah., So,, he's, trying, to, get, into, the good graces of the team, but I brought the positivity rabbit.
He, was, a, healthy, scratch. That's, got, to, count, for, something., Uh since since Tuesday, I have found myself in a weird spot where I am uh now a Jaylen Herz defender because I was on Wake Up Bar stool on Tuesday morning. I said Jaylen Herz is Russell Wilson 2.0. Uh and but literally 10 seconds into the clip, I said Russell Wilson was a very good quarterback. I think Jaylen Herz is a very good quarterback. they they're not the top three guys in the league but they're somewhere after that where if their team is good around them they're winning a Super Bowl. I got then uh quote tweeted, sent everywhere, NFL people saying, "I don't know ball." Um all I'll say is I think Russell Wilson was a very good quarterback. I also think Jaylen Herz is a very good quarterback. And if you want to just talk about it, Russell Wilson never finished second in MVP. Jaylen Herz did
he, would, have, he, would, have, come, first too if he didn't get hurt. If, he, didn't, get, hurt
Russell, Wilson, was, I, I, think, you'd, make the argument he was a top five quarterback for most of his first what seven seasons
not, all, seven. I, think, he, led, the, I, think, he's, the winningest quarterback in his first seven seasons in the history of the league.
But, that's, not, top, winningest., Yeah, but, he, was, 2017, to, 2020, Russell, Wilson was phenomenal. Jaylen Hurst is 27 years old. I think Jaylen Herz is gonna like I'm not giving up on Jaylen Herz is kind of what I was saying. And uh yeah Emanuel Acho who has me blocked so I can't even reply. Every day people prove they didn't watch Russell Wilson play professional football. Okay, we'll see. The best part about this argument is Jaylen Herz has career left. So we'll find, out., You, know what's, funny, is that's actually that's telling on himself, Emanuel Ao because he saw your take and then he assumed that you meant that Russell Wilson stinks.
That's, the, thing, that, was., So, I, kind, of got done dirty by our own people using the only quote Jaylen Herz is Russell Wilson 2.0 when 10 seconds in I said and that's not a bad thing cuz Russell Wilson was really good.
Yeah,, but he, was, really, really, good., Emanuel, Acho is being disrespectful to Russell Wilson for being like, "Why are you talking [ __ ] about Russell Russell Wilson this way when actually you were saying good things about him?"
And, if, if, they, ret, if, Jaylen, Herz retired today it, also, means, people, just, think, Jaylen Herz sucks.
Yeah., If, but, if, Jaylen, Herz, retired today, Russell Wilson would have a far better career. I obviously I'm not arguing that. I I am off a four pick game, I'm not giving up on Jaylen Herz is kind of what I'm saying. I think he's still a very good quarterback. Max, uh are you guys going to start a backup or is Tanner McKe time?
I, It's, insane, that, people, are, having this discussion. Shout, out, to, to, the, Philadelphia, media because they did ask Siri if they were thinking about making the move to Tanner McKe or Sam.
Yeah. Uh,, I, respect, the, hell, out, of, them, for for asking that question. It shows that some cities still know how sports talk is done
and, how, the, uh, the, backup, is, always, the most popular guy in town. Uh, Max, do you know who asked that question? Uh, I do not, but I know that it was asked.
I, I, respect, S. It, might, have, been, S, or, Ant., Big, Ant. Big, Eagles., Eagles, talk, radio, has, been insane this week.
Oh,, no, way. Duh. That's, a, good, I, I, did, like, uh, Shad's take on it. Shady said that if if Kevin Patulo comes back next year, they need to unretire his number. He's gonna give 25 back to the Eagles if Kevin Patulo is still around.
Well,, there, is, reports, that, Kevin, Patulo will be getting interviewed for the Giants head coaching job.
Oh, wow. Yep., Monday, morning, quarterback., Put, put that one out there. That's, great.
Why? Because, he's, number, two, guy, of Does, he, count, for, Rooney, Rule, as, an Italian?
I'm, just, telling, I'm, just, telling, you what the reports are. That, might, be, just, Mr., Meer, doing Jeffrey Luri a favor of being like "Hey, I'm going to take some heat off you for a second. I'll just pretend to interview your OC so we can say he got interviewed.
But, what, it, might, do, is, it, might, make Jeffrey Lury be like, "Wow, this guy's generating buzz to be a head coach. We better lock him up.
We, got, to, get, him., We, got, to, get, him locked up." It, might, be, a, threedimensional, chess move by the Giants. Sports Talk Radio is also doing the Trey Turner again right now.
Oh. Of, no, no, booze. The, rules, are, hilarious., It, is, give, the offense a standing ovation on their on their first uh
on, their, first, drive, out, and, no, booze through the first quarter. I, love, it., Okay., Yeah,
that's, not, WIP., Yeah, you're, going, to, kill, the, Raiders., But yeah, it is funny that I have I have somehow ended up in after trolling Max on Tuesday and having a lot of fun with that. I've now ended up on Max's side where I found I caught myself replying to random people online with Jaylen Herz stats.
We, spent, too, much, time, on, this, game. Yeah., All, right., Wait,, give, it, to, us., Is this the No, we don't even need to hear this. No boozing.
No,, you Kenny, Picket, starting, for, the, Raiders. Kenny Picket starting for the Raiders. Oh, yeah. The rules are offense gets a standing ovation this Sunday versus the Raiders. No booing the team for the entire first quarter versus the Raiders. That That is dangerous though because that
that, means, the, second, quarter, could, be an onslaught. That's like that's like telling you know like hey no sex for a month. You're basically doing you know no nut November. The loads in December are insane. The boos are going to be you guys are going to be just hitting Peter North ropes
of, booze, at, people's, faces. Roll, the, tarp, out, after, the, first quarter. It's going to be like put your fours, up, at, the, end, of the, first, quarter and everyone's just going to flip off the team. They're going to they're going to have they're going to have like reports in uh give me a town just you know uh west of Philadelphia.
Broomal. Broomal, had, had, a, seismic, the, RTOR, scale off of the booze. It was a small earthquake.
The, king, of, Prussian, mall, has, imploded when, the, second, quarter, started.
I, like, imagine, a, Jaylen, Herz, pick, to start the second quarter. First, play it would go crazy. Next play. Got a trivia question. There's two players in the NFL that have 50 plus carries for zero or negative yards this season. Do you know who those two players are?
Wait,, say, it, again. There's, two, players, in, the, NFL, that, have 50 plus carries for zero or negative yards this season. Who are
Ashton, Genty? Yes,, he's, one, of, them. I, don't, know, the, other, Barkley. Oh,, what, a, matchup.
Is, these, two, running, backs?, Yeah. Wow. I, was, shocked, to, see, Saquin, on, that list,
but, I'm, not., The, O, line's, been horrendous. Yeah. All, right., So, this, is, the, third, fourth time that Nicksi as a coach of the Eagles has dropped three games in a row. They've won
the, fourth, game, each, time. Do you get it? Four times you've lost three in a row. You haven't lost four in a row.
The, Cardinal., Yeah. Are, you, afraid, of, Kenny, Picket? Kenny, Picket, revenge.
Yeah. I'm, afraid, of, everyone., I'm, afraid, of everyone and everything. I, shadow., The, fact, that, this, is, an, 11 and a half point spread is insane to me.
No,, it's, not., The, Raiders, are, the, worst team in the NFL. The, Eagles covered, last, week.
Look, like, the, worst, team, in, the, NFL. It, covered, easy, last, week. Defense.
Easy, cover, last, week, for, the, Raiders. Okay. You ready to move on? You're going to win this game. I don't know if you're going to, beat, the, Commanders.
Yes. Both, times., You, are, going, to, win, this game, Max. I I You know what? Personal guarantee right now. how you're going to win this game. What comes with a personal guarantee? Absolutely nothing. But I'm giving it.
Jaylen, Herz, has, to, has, to, be, good. He, is, good. No,, I'm, saying, he, has, to, like
I, I, might, bet, three., I, might, might, go for 300 for her. Max, positivity., If, AJ, Brown, catches, that ball, none of this is talked about. It's like, oh, there was a bad Jaylen Herz threw one bad pick and yeah, he then fumbled the pick afterwards and it was crazy and then he threw another pick and another pick. AJ Brown also looked like friends on Hard Knocks this week according to memes because I refuse to watch it.
Okay,, that's, good, reporting, memes. Excellent, reporting, memes. Memes, sticking, on, you., The, Jets, at, the Jags. Jags are minus 13 and a half. Overunders is 412.
Brady, Cook. Oh,, HE, JUST, OH,, HE, WAVED, US, OFF., THAT'S IT. THAT'S, IT. That's, it., That, was, the, preview.
Nothing, about, the, preview, of, the, game. I, need, to, know, Brady, Cook, or, no, Brady Cook.
It, is, Brady, Cook. Yeah,, it's, Brady, Cook., It's, Brady, Cook and Adrien Martinez as backup. Oh man.
Okay,, he, just, waved, us, off. Oh, man, there's, nothing, season, the, season, over.
Come, on,, memes., Really? We're, simulating, to, the, end, of, the season where it's full tank. This is like a a super tank.
It, is. Yeah, they, might, not, score, a, touchdown,, but, at the same time, I'm rooting for him. God forbid, you know, he lights it up. He won't. But I
I, also, love, how, the, Jaguars, are, leaning into the the nobody believes in us.
Like,, no, one, thinks, that, we're, going to beat Brady Cook. This week it's us against the world.
The, most, the, most, like, creative, player name, face, everything that has ever existed.
I, want, I, want, you, guys, to, to, look, out there and all those people in this they all think Brady Cook's about to kick your ass.
Could, you, see, maybe, the, Brady, Cook, game happening? I, see, Breece, Hall, rushing, a, lot.
Okay. And, the, Brady, Cook, game,, by, the, way, could be bad. Like there's the Nathan Peterman game.
Yeah., Which, was, actually, it, was, pretty excellent. Yeah. Uh, only set I have is the Trevor Lawrence most passing touchdowns the past five weeks. Number one is Matthew Stafford. Number two is Trevor Lawrence. He's been playing good football.
He's, been, playing, really, good., Yeah. Okay,, that's, it., So,, he, waved, us, off. Cardinals, to, Texans., Texans, -, 9, and a half. Over under 42 and a half. I don't know. I kind of want to take the Cardinals just because I don't know if the Texans can score enough to cover nine and a half, but the Texans defense is so so good and Jacobe Brassette does hold on to the ball. So, feels like there might be a pick six or a fumble or something. So, I'm going to probably just stay away.
I, kind, of, like, the, Texans., I, feel, like Jacob Brassette's going to throw the ball 50 times.
Doesn't, this, feel, like, a, a, total, sucker spot though? It, does., Yeah,, but, you, see, the, Texans win on Sunday night and then they're and the Cardinals are just got pieced by the Rams. This is the hard part of the of like week 15 and later is that you just don't know if there's teams that are officially have fully like wrapped it up and quit.
It, seems, like, the, Cardinals, have, wrapped it up and quit, but they've also covered seven out of eight as road dogs
right? So,, I, I, but, I, still, like, the, Texans, and that might be me being a sucker and just looking at it and saying, "Okay, the Texans are legit legit. The Cardinals are just kind of treading water and waiting for the season to end. Yes. Like just hoping that the clock moves faster for the rest of the year
which, feels, the, way. Which, does, it, does, feel, like, it, might, be going in that direction. Uh Brassette is trying to beat the Texans starting for the fourth different team in his career.
Uh, so, there's, six, different, quarterbacks that, have, beaten, an, opponent, as, the quarterback for four different teams.
Okay. One, is, Ryan, Fitzpatrick. Okay., Uh,, one, is, Trent, Dilford., He, beat the Cardinals four times. Chris Chandler beat the Broncos four times. Jeff Garcia beat Washington four times. Carrie Collins beat the Cowboys four times. And Earl Moral beat the Giants and the Cardinals four times. But Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's beaten the uh, Jaguars six times and the command, that's the all-time record and the Commanders four times for four different teams.
So, Brusset, is, trying, to, join, that fraternity. That's, a, good, fraternity., It's, an excellent fraternity.
Yeah., Which, basically, means, that, you just played for a ton of team. It, means, that, you, were, good, enough, to bounce around the league for a
to, play, for, a, lot, of, teams., Yeah. Okay., Let's, So,, anyone, got, any, thoughts on this game? This is another one where it's just like, okay.
No,, I, over, Yeah., Michael, Wilson is, awesome. Throw, him, the, ball, a, lot.
Trey, McBride. Yep. Yep. CJ, Strad, just, look, good,, look dependable, and, then, let, the, rest, happen.
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I'm, gonna, get, tan., They, have, tanny, beds, too. Hell, yeah., Afternoon, games., Great, one. Game of the week. Barel's game of the week. Make sure you tweet us your game of the week parlay because we're giving out bonus bets on DraftKings. Lions at Rams. Rams minus 6 overunders 54 a half. Big big game. Big big game for the Lions. Both teams really cuz the Rams are trying to get the one seed. The Lions are in the eighth spot right now. And if they So, I was looking at it. If the Lions lose and the Bears win, then the Bears at minimum have a week 18 uh win and get in. Like that can't it can't get worse than that. So, they could lose their next two games. Still have The Lions are kind of in a spot where they have to
Yeah., They, have, to, get, to, try, to, get that win and get in and they have to This is a big game.
If, they, win,, they're, up, to, 72%, to, get in. Yeah. If they lose, they're down to 40% to get in. Yeah. the uh the old Jared Goff Matt Stafford game this matchup again
uh, both, teams, the, rare, trade, where, both teams won I think you could definitely make the argument there I
I, think, I, like, the, Lions, just, because they're going to be desperate as [ __ ]
yeah, desperate, as, [ __ ], and, Brian, Branch unfortunately he's out for the season he's got a torn Achilles so he's probably out for like maybe up to a full year uh not a calendar year but 12 months
and, Kirby, Joseph, might, not, play, I, don't know uh but the the defense is going to be an issue for them. Dan Campbell just doesn't seem phased by it. He was just like, "We're good. We got options. You lose a good player, it hurts, but we're not in dire straits."
Yep. I, think, they're, just, The, Lions, are, going to be the most desperate team that you've ever seen.
Yeah., On, on, Sunday. A, lot, of, fourth, downs. A, lot, of, fourth, downs. Makes, you, nervous, about, taking, the, over
or, it, could, make, you, feel, good, about, it. Could, be, awesome. It, depends, on, if, they, make, those, fourth downs. Aman Ra, if he's healthy or healthier than he has looked, I think I I think the Lions are a good bet. Um I'm just I'm I'm putting all my chips behind Dan Campbell's desperation. Yeah I think he's probably the best desperate coach.
Sean, McVey, said, he, vows, to, never, forget the way Stafford was treated in Detroit Homecoming.
They, booed, him. They, booed, his, family. Yeah,, that, Well,, they, booed, his, kids.
They, booed, his, kids., They, applauded, for Matt Stafford, but they're like the little girls.
Yeah., They, can, get, it., They, can, get these booze. Yeah. Yeah., I, agree., I, think, this, is, going, to be one of those chaotic like great games where both teams are pressing in a good way. I also just if you didn't watch the Cardinals Rams game last week, which I don't blame you because it was such a blowout. Puka and Matthew Stafford, the way they're playing football right now it's the old Dan Marino. There's no defense for a perfect pass. That's how it feels with those two. Yeah.
Where, they, doesn't, really, matter, what defense you run, who you have on Puka. Matthew Savage is going to put it somewhere. The Puka Nooa can catch it and the defensive back cannot. I think what we've seen this season, we saw we saw teams playing like relatively normal coverages at the start of the year and Puka Nua was awesome.
Then, they, just, blanketed, Puka, Nua, and then all Devonte Adams did was catch touchdowns. Yeah.
And, then, they're, like,, "Oh, [ __ ], all this guy does is catch touchdowns. Let's give him some extra attention." And now we're back. The pendulum is swung swung back to Puka Nua always being open.
Also,, Jir, Gibbs,, just, keep, betting, him. So since Jir since Dan Campbell took over play calling, if you did a 17game pace for Jir Gibbs, it would be first uh all time in yards from scrimmage with 2,679 and 31 total TDs. That's on pace for when Dan Campbell took over. Yeah
it's, pretty, crazy., So, he's, clearly, being like, "Hey, that's our best player. Let's use him all the time. Every aspect of the game."
I'm, pumped, for, this, game., You, like, this game Hank? Yeah. You, got, a, thought?
Also, feels, like, a, sucker. The again it's it's tough hungry dog because I think hungry dog is like it's hard to do week over week and there's not a lot of dogs feels like sucker dog week.
Why, don't, you, just, do, that?, Why, don't you do a moneyline parlay of the sucker dogs like the other way?
I, might, take, the, Rams, the, Chiefs call it the can't lose Rams, Chiefs, Ravens.
The, sucker, dog., Yeah,, cuz, because everyone in their mother is like or, just, take, them, against, the, spread. Yeah.
No. Oh, yeah., No. Okay., It's, no, no, plus, sign. No,, I'm, saying, take, all, three, parlayed against the spread.
But, yeah,, I, like, I, like, the, Rams, in, this game. This this game feels like it it's everyone in their mother's be like Lions Lions need to win. Dan Campbell's hungry.
I, think, it's, going to, be, a, shootout. This also gives me uh Chiefs Chiefs Rams vibes with Jared Goff just over over over.
But, that, fourth, down,, that's, my, that's I'm I'm just I'm just picturing myself I'm putting myself in in in my own body on Sunday afternoon betting the over in this game and watching the Lions be like in the red zone three times in the first two, you know, two quarters and going 0 for three on fourth down.
We're, going, to, know, pretty, quickly, if that, over, is, going to, hit., Yeah., Just based on vibes, if the first fourth down doesn't get converted, you're like "This is dead.
It's, over." Yep. Okay., Packers, at, Broncos., Broncos, plus two and a half over under 42 and a half. This is a very similar spread and setup to the Bills and the in the Patriots. The Broncos are in the first spot right now. Um they have what what's their win streak right now? 10 10 in a row. They're underdogs to the Packers.
I, think, rightfully, so., I, think, the Packers are going to win. Arrowhead's tough place to play.
It's, not, Arrowhead. It's, not, Arrowhead., Mile, High. Good, point. It, is. Mile, High.
Yeah., Apologies. Mile, High. Arrowhead., Mile, High also, a, tough, place, to, play.
Yep. Mile, High, is, tougher. Really? Altitude. Yeah. But, Arrowhead, though, but, Patrick, Mahomes,
I'd, rather, not, play, at, Mile, High. What, about Yeah. Why?, How, come, Arrowhead, was, the, first?
We, beat, I, don't, know, why., That, was, just a I guess I, feel, like, that's, 40, and, slip., Mhm. Because you're afraid of of playing the Chiefs.
Probably. I'll, stop, talking. Toyota, thon., We, know, it., Jordan, Love, is just insane. Yeah
he, went, on, McAfee, show, wearing, a, Toyota thon jacket. He's leaning into it.
Wasn't, Perty, doing, that, earlier?, I, think I feel like Party wore a Toyota thon jacket outside of Toyota.
He, might, have,, but, he's, he's, leaning into it. He's loving it. He's already got Brocktober. He doesn't need Toyota thon.
Yeah., The, uh, Yeah., I, I, don't, know, what else to say in in instead of like the the Packers look really good and Matt Laflur is a really good coach especially down the stretch and Toyota thon's happening and while I think the Broncos are still a good team I just they have been winning games by the skin of their teeth and Bonix's played better but I think this is just a levels thing. I don't know. I might be way wrong. I might be way wrong. The Broncos could shock me. I would love it if the Broncos won this game because then the following week would be Yeah, awesome.
I've, been, thinking, more, about, it, with the Broncos. I I know their defense is awesome. I've been believing I've been a Bolever for quite some time now.
I, think, they're, capable, of, winning, any game they play. They're capable of beating any team in the league. Yeah
they're, also, capable, of, losing, to, just about every team in the league. Yep.
I, think, that, they're, going, to, win, this game, but I don't trust them in the playoffs to win three games in a row.
I, don't, think, so. That's, not I know they've won 10. I know they've won 10, which is a great counterpoint if you're out there and you're like, "Wait you don't trust them to win three in a row? They're on a 10ame winning streak."
I, I, just, don't, trust, them, to, win, three in, a, row in, the, playoffs, against, good teams.
Uh, Bon, Knicks, against, the, NFC, during, his career is eight and one. So,, there, you, go.
Pretty, good., I, don't, know, if, that, means anything, but I just wanted to say it. Yeah, I just I I I have a bad feeling the Packers are have turned the corner. It happened Thanksgiving. What they did to the Lions Thanksgiving, that was the the the corner was was officially turned and yeah, I think this is when they're going to start pouring it on.
I, think, that, their, their, quarterbacks are going to be good enough against the Packers receivers where Jordan Love is not going to be able to make any of those easy throws downfield.
Yeah., Yeah., Pro., I, mean,, yeah., Although the the Broncos have given up some yard. I mean the the commanders obviously played well. Marota
Mariota. Okay., Next, up, Panthers, at, Saints., Saints are two and a half point underdogs. Overunders 40 and a half.
The, Carolina, Panthers, are, 0, and24 against the spread as favorites against sub 400 teams since 2015. Let me just say that again. They are 0 and24 against the spread as favorites against sub400 teams since 2015. That's crazy.
That, is, absolutely, nuts. So, they, should, never, be, favored. They, Well,, they, should, never, be, favored. And they also just play down to their level.
Yeah. Which, is, not, a, good, thing. No., And, Tyler, Shuck, is, playing, pretty good.
We're, Shers. He's, Shuck, boys., Shuck, is I'm, offended, you, even, said, pretty, good. He's playing very well.
Yeah., Maybe, the, best, in, the, NFL. If, you, just, base, it, off, of, last, week,
Tyler, Shuck,, he's, 17., take, out, Matthew Stafford if he throws and Josh Allen
106, yards, he, breaks, the, Saints, alltime rookie record. You know who held that?
Who? Spencer, Rattler, last, year., That's, I believe the second time in NFL history that that's ever happened. I think the first was in 1950 where you've had back-toback rookie quarterbacks setting and breaking each other's records. But yeah, Tyler Shuck is [ __ ] awesome. He is. Max, you're right. That was a good correction. Good producing, Max. I'm a Shuck boy. I'm a believer in Shuck. I don't know who the Saints are going to have at skill positions. I don't care. I'm a believer in Tyler Shuck.
Yeah., Doesn't, matter,, dude., He's, the Shuck. He's going to shuck you up. That's what he does.
Yeah., Sh, Yeah., Shuck, you, the, [ __ ], up. Shuck you up. Shuck, that, tugger, dick,, [ __ ]
Yeah., Uh,, do, we, want, anything, else, on this game? It doesn't This game weirdly doesn't matter that much for the P. does, but the Panthers have two games against the Bucks in the last three weeks of the season. If they go two and 0, they're in.
Yeah. So,, it, still, matters, because, you, want, to give your chance to give yourself a chance to be able to go one and one and still be in.
But, both, the, Bucks, and, the, and, the Panthers are sitting in the same spot. If they can go two and 0 against the the other one, they're in.
This, is, a, Yeah,, it's, a, must-win., Must win for the Panthers, I think. Must, win
to, get, some, confidence, going, because it's, not, it's, not, a, must, win, at, all.
To, get, the, confidence, to, get, the confidence going. It's a It's a want to win.
It's, a, It's, a, Would, be, nice, to, win., I don't think it's a must-win. I, think, if, you're, the, Panthers,, every game has to be a must-win.
No,, that's, that's, what, we're, saying, is the opposite. They have two must-win games coming up.
You, got, to, feel, good, about, yourself., If you want if you if you want if you want to win the must-wins, you have to be confident. And the best way to get confident is to get a win against the Saints. A team that came into your house and beat you.
They, beat, your, ass., But, yeah,, it's definitely not a mustwin. I think you get swept by the Saints, your tails between your legs, then you can't run with big boys
or, it, wakes, you, up., Fires, you, up if, I'm, I'm, looking. No, room, for, error., No, margin, for, error.
No, margin, for, error., If, the, Yeah,, I'm looking right now. Want, to, lose, this, game.
If, the, Panthers, lose, uh, this, back against the wall team if, the, Panthers, lose, this, week, and, week 17, but they win week 16 and 18 against the Bucks, they're in.
So, the, Bucks, can, win, the, Bucks, can, win, the other two and lose to the P. Like, so yeah, this doesn't
matter, fine, if, they, lose. It's, perfectly, fine. I, don't, have, everything, ahead, of, us.
It's, not, perfectly, fine. It's, not, perfectly, fine, because, then they they do lose the ability to go one and one against the Bucks, which you'd like to keep that ability alive, would you not say so, Hank?
Yeah,, it's, it's, blleh, if, they, lose. It's, blleh, if, they, lose. Yeah. What, is, is, that, what's, blleh?
It's, like, not, great,, but, not It's, just, blleh. The, sky, is, falling., Yeah.
So,, should, they, just, should, they, bench their starters? Not quite. We're getting the move on.
You, got, to, respect, Yeah,, you, got, to respect the loss of the Shucks there.
Yeah,, that's, true., That's, true., Titans at 49ers. 49ers minus 12 and a half over under, 44, and a, half., Can, we, just, just say 49ers?
49ers, big, time. Just, go, big, time. We're, going, to, go., Oh,, we're, Yeah,, we move along.
The, the, Titans, are, Titans, are, reading all the press clippings. Everyone thinks you're the best team in the world because you won a game last year.
I, will, say, this, about, the, 49ers., feel like the team that not a lot of people are talking about and they're kind of just lurking there and you know there's a lot of I think it's because the nature of how the NFC playoff pictures looked it's a lot of Rams Seahawks
Bears, Packers, Lions, cuz, those, those, are tight division 49ers are right there. They're right [ __ ] there.
You, know, the, the, Rams, have, they, are, last in the league in sacks or sorry they're not the Rams the 49ers. 49ers are last in the league in sacks.
That's, M., Jones. No, in, on, defense., Oh,, I, thought, you meant avoiding them.
No,, their, defense. Yeah,, no,, they, don't, have, a, pass, rush. They got everyone injured.
Their, defense, is, is, dead, last, in, the league in sacking the quarterback. Fred, Warner, is, doing, the, if, we, make, it to this round, I'm back.
Was, that Super Bowl? Pro, Bowl. Pro, Bowl., Pro, Bowl, week. Yeah., No,, he, I, think, I, saw, it, was, like wild card 25%, divisional round 50% championship round 75%.
You, might, be, back. Yeah., Uh, love, the, Niners. Yeah,, I, do, too., Seahawks, Colts., Seahawks minus 13 and a half over under 42 and a half. Phil Rivers.
We're, doing, it. He, gets, number, 17, from, Daniel, Jones, which is very funny. So, Daniel Jones is on IR cuz he tore his Achilles and Daniel Jones uh was asked, Phil Rivers texted him and Daniel Jones replied "Heck yeah, go for it."
I, love, that., Heck, yeah. Heck, yeah., He, knew, not, to, cuss. Don't, cuss., I, I, can't, wait, to, see, Philip Rivers out there. I hope that it's awesome. I hope he's able to play. I'm skeptical. He's, 44., I, You, know what?, I, I, I'm, sick of people being like, "He's a grandfather." 44. He's like the youngest grandfather in the world.
Brett, Favre, was, a, grandfather. Brett, Favre, was, a, grandfather., He's, not He's not a young guy.
Well,, the, only, thing, is, his, grandkid, is in middle school. Philip, Rivers.
Yeah. How, old, is, his, grand? No,, I'm, just, kidding., Jesus, Christ., When did he get started?
His, grandkid's, like, one, or, two. When, did, he, get, started?, Uh wouldn't, that, be, funny, if, his, grandkid like want to feel old? Philip Rivers is is playing in the NFL this week and his grandkid just did signing day for NC State.
Yeah., I, I, thought, this, was, kind, of funny. So, Philip Rivers has been working out and training Riley Leonard for the past two offseasons.
Yeah. He's, been, his, mentor, and, now, they're like, "Hey, Phil, can you come in here and and just show Riley how it's done?"
Yeah., And, on, top, of, that,, we, got, the report that Philip Rivers is running was running Shane Stiken's offense for the high school team he was coaching. They were talking every week.
Every, single, week. Which, makes, you, think,, how, long, has Shane Stiken had this plan?
Forever. Like, he, he, was, keeping, his, options, open with Phil. Yeah., If, you're, Daniel, Jones,, you, got, to be like, wait, what the [ __ ]
You, were, talking, to, him, every, week. You, had, a, side, chick, this, entire, time.
You, were, watching, me, play, and, thinking about Philip Rivers. It's, crazy. It, is, crazy., And, I, I, said, right, when, the news came through that I it felt a lot like the Jeff Saturday hire.
Oh,, Breaking, Moves. Is, he, officially, starting? Breaking, news. Breaking news. Adam Sheper just tweeted "Sounds like Philip Rivers is tracking to start Sunday at Seattle."
Yeah,, I, saw, he, was, taking, a, lot, of, the the reps. That's good. That's This is good for football.
Incredible. It's, good, for, football., I, can't, believe Sam Ellinger turned the Colts down.
Yeah. I, can't, believe, he, was, like,, "No,, thank you. This, is, going, to, be, You, know, what?, If Philip Rivers, if if they win I won't cuss for the rest of football season."
Yeah., I'm, gonna, stop, cussing. I, don't, know, about, that., Oh,, I'm watching a tape of him throw it. He's still [ __ ] got it. He does look a little heavier, but it doesn't matter. He said he doesn't run away from people anyway. Yeah.
So,, Stephen, Holder,, I, think,, is, a, Colts beat reporter, said two days in now, and my time in the building this week has left me only more convinced. Philip Rivers is this week's starting quarterback. It isn't difficult to tell who a team is prepping to start. The that player is Rivers, period.
Yeah. Wow., He, needs, to, get, in, football, shape, but there's no question he can throw He's going to play himself in shape.
He's, go,, "Yeah,, let's, do, it.", It's, been 1,800 days since his last game. That, rocks., That, rocks., Sometimes, the NFL just delivers. You know
this, is, really, one, of, those, those moments that I'm just so happy that we get to watch Philip Rivers again.
Yeah. But, the, Seahawks, are, probably, going, to [ __ ] him up probably. If, we're, just, going, to, be, honest, with this, this is a I'm worried about him getting hit. That's the
Yeah,, he's, he, has, to, play, the, Seahawks. He has to play the Texans this year.
Oh, my, god. Oh, my, god., Yeah, I, do, like, that, the, Colts, are, just, not giving up on, hey, we are right there in the playoff hunt. Why would we just give up? Every starting QB when Philip Rivers last played, this is a crazy. So, it's Matt Ryan uh Teddy Bridgewwater, Dwayne Haskins for the Commanders, Mitch Trabiscy for the Bears.
Oh,, Ryan, Tanahill, for, the, Titans., Yet one seed, baby. Baker, Mayfield, for, the, Browns., Drew, Lock for the Broncos.
You, okay,, Hanks? Are, you, okay? You're, funny., No,, you funny, guy., Funny, guy., You, make, me, laugh.
What's, funny, about, you?, Just, everything about you. The way you look, the way you talk,
about, remembering your, little, quips. I, listen, quips. Hank,, I, know, you, feel, the, way, I, know, you feel the same way.
We, We, both, look, good., That's, the, thing. The haters are sick about that is me and Hank actually. I think we won that bet.
Oh,, yeah., Definitely, 100%. Except, for, the, part, when, Hank, did blackface.
No,, it, was, Yeah,, it, was, it, was, Guido face. You, did., You, guys, both, look, good., Hank's Hank's been vibing this week. He's he's been matching his his outfit with like his hair.
Yeah. And, it's, been, very, funny, to, watch. Yeah., He, he, came, up, to, us, today., He, was like, "I I feel like I look like a guy that like doesn't have a job, doesn't do [ __ ] but still like has a hot girlfriend."
And, Max, was, like,, "Yeah,, dude., You, mean you look like the [ __ ] man?" Hank was like "Yeah, I do."
By, the, way,, did, you, see, Cam, Newton, tried to make it about himself where he was like, "Yeah, it's a slap in the face. didn't call me first.
Yeah., I, uh, the, difference, would, be, that Phil Rivers, his last time in the NFL he was not that bad. The last time you were in the NFL, it was bad.
The, big, difference, is, that, he's, best friends with the coach. Yeah. Running, his, offense.
Yeah., Do, you, think, I, could, stop, cussing? No., No. God,, no. Absolutely, not., Phil, Rivers, last
I'll, do, I'll, do, it. Last, last, time, we, saw, Phil, Rivers,, the Colts, he took the Colts to 11 and five. You remember that playoff game against the Bills? He had 68% completion percentage. He threw for 4,000 yards. He had 24 touchdowns. He wasn't that bad. You can't stop cussing. Seahawks are better though. Seahawks are going to win this game.
I, It, means, that, much, to, me., Like, if, if imagine if Philip Rivers goes out there and he beats the Seahawks on Sunday what a moment that would be. That would be a game that we would never forget for the rest of our lives.
Okay,, so it, would, be, that, magical, of, a, moment. But if you cuss, what's the punishment?
I, have, an, idea. Red, hair. I'd, look, good, with, red, hair. Deposit, into, the, sperm, bank, for, Phil Rivers. So we have
Yeah. Yeah., I'll, send, my, boys, off. Off, to, war. I'll, send, them, off, to, war.
The, Yanks, are, coming,, baby. You, just, swear, you're, just, all, of a sudden just having to go to the sperm bank every single week.
Yeah., Listen,, there's, a, lot, of, women, out there that that I think the cut off is 5'8, so I'm good.
So,, yeah., What's, some, PFT? I, mean,, you, do, you, do, have, like, great jeans. You're you got blonde hair.
Yeah,, that's, true., Tan,, olive, skin, sworthy. I'm a sworthy individual. PFT commenter. Yeah.
Okay., Last, game,, Sunday, Night, Football. Vikings at Cowboys. Cowboys - 5 and a half. Over under 47 and a half. Nine. Prime time nine. By the way, last thing we didn't talk about the Seahawks because Phil Rivers is the story. I think the Seahawks are going to win. I think the Seahawks are going to maybe kill them. Seahawks are really [ __ ] good. That's why we didn't talk about it.
I, I, echo, that, point. Yeah., Anything, on, nine?, Prime, time. It's, nine., Prime, time., Nine.
What, else, is, there, to, be, said, besides it's nine time? I, actually, like, the, Vikings, to, cover this. They technically are not eliminated from the playoffs.
They, have, to, go, 4, and0%., They, have, to, go 4-0. The Bears have to go 0 and4. The Lions have to go 1 and3. And the Panthers and Bucks have to finish with a nine and eight record or worse.
Yeah, it's, a, lot, of, things. A, lot, of, stuff, has, to, happen., I, I, think that the this should be a great game for the Cowboys offense.
I, don't, know., Brian, Flor, is, going, to heat him up. I'm excited to watch nine in prime time.
He's, going, to, heat, him, up., I, think, uh, I think George Pickins is surprisingly responding to uh to his bad game in a very unGeorge Pickins-like way. Yeah. So, everyone at the Cowboys facility has been like, "Yeah, he knows he had a bad game. He knows he [ __ ] up. He knows he can't change the narrative about that game." But overall, if you look at how he's played this year, it does seem like he's a more mature version of himself than he was in Pittsburgh. Yeah.
Despite, what, Jason, Whitlock, might, have deleted. I, actually, I, actually, like, that, George Pickkins had that type of game on Thursday because he reminded everyone like, "Hey, you guys all are saying that I'm like the best wide receiver and the best teammate, all that stuff. I just want to remind you I'm still a little crazy.
Yeah. Like, I'll, be, a, little, crazy, if, I, need, to be a little crazy. He's he's doing a good job of not setting the bar too high.
Well,, also, you, want, George, Pickkins, to be a little crazy. You don't want him to be too tame.
Correct. Because, then, he, loses, his, edge. Also,, guys, have, bad, games. It, happens.
It, happens. Um,, how, many, yards, do, you, think, Justin Jefferson has over the last three games?
I'm, gonna, say, 75. 25. 63., He's, got, 63, yards, over, the, last three games.
Jettis. Jay, Jettis., Uh,, but, I, think, listen, nine. Nine. Just, we, might, get, nine., Nine., I, got nined last week. It happens.
Uh,, we, might, have, backto-back, nines. Nine. N. Brian, Sean, Hover,, by, the, way,, uh,, wore shy in practice.
Okay., So,, he's, trying, to, he's, trying, to identify Yeah. with, his, team. Yeah., He, said,, "I, didn't, really, like, it. I couldn't breathe." I don't know how he he must have he wore it like George Pickkins wears it. I don't I don't know why the guys like it so much, but I thought, "Hey, this is the cool thing going on. Let me try it." kind of like the 67 thing a few weeks ago. I'm a hip guy, but I didn't really like it. It didn't stay on very long. Oh, Brian Shottenheimimer feels like that was a little too much.
He's, trying. I, appreciate, a, little, too, much. I, appreciate, the, fact, that, he's, trying.
He, is, trying,, but, that, was, maybe, a little too much. And, I, I, appreciate, the, fact, that, he, can try stuff and he realizes it's lame and then stop it and be like, I I tried, but it was dumb.
I, actually, had, no, problem, with, this entire quote except saying the 67 thing.
Yeah. Yeah., And, there, he, is, with, the, shy. Did, we, get, any, footage, of, him, trying
Yeah,, there, it, is, right, there, on, trying the 67 thing. Oh,, I, don't, know, if, he, did, the, hands
cuz, if, he, the, way, that, he, tells, the story, it sounds like it was probably the worst 67 of all time. Him and Hunter check. Uh we're not getting Trayvon Diggs back. I don't think Shanheimer talked about him and he's still sidelined from a quote at home accident. Oh,
that, took, place, just, before, Washington week seven. I, feel, like, I, can, recklessly, speculate on what happened.
Okay. is speculation maybe informed speculation. Okay, it, was, an, at, home, injury, on, a, Friday,, a Friday night where something heavy fell on his head something that he brought maybe into his house that could tip over easily because maybe somebody else was climbing on it and maybe that person that was climbing on it might not have been wearing clothes.
Talking, about, a, stripper, pole., I, did, say that, but, I'm, I, said, that., I, guessed
if, that, is, what, happened,, that, is, the funniest way to get concussed of all time.
Of, course., I, hope, he's, okay. I, hope, he's, okay. Yeah. And, I, think, he's, cleared, concussion protocol a long time ago. And they're just like, you are you are a weird guy. I don't know if we need you on the team right now. Just kind of don't say anything.
Figure, it, out. Yeah. Okay., So,, he's, not, coming, back., Cowboys still alive. We'll see what happens with the Eagles. They got to win out though. They got to win out.
I, don't, think, you, want, to, play, the Cowboys in the playoffs. I, would, probably, agree., I'd, probably agree. Okay, let's do good good preview boys. Let's do our bets and let's do let's do our touchdown parlay. We got to hit one. Football season just got even better. Barcels bringing you the game of the week every single week through the end of the regular season. Here's the deal. Every Friday, we'll announce a game of the week from the Sunday slate of games. When the game of the week drops, all you have to do is share bets slip on that game with the hashtag bar stool gootw throughx or email and you'll be entered for a shot to win one of the $5,000 bonus bets. So listen guys, we're giving away every single week. We're posting ours Barcel game of the week.
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Great, guy., George, KD. Love, it., Love, it. Love, that, a, lot. PFT,, you, want, to, do, a, Sunday, night, game? I was thinking about doing a Sunday night game. I was also thinking about maybe
You, want, to, go, Georgie? Philip, Rivers., Oh,, no., Georgie Bounceback. Georgie, Bounceback, is, one, of, the, two that I'm looking at.
Okay., Jay, Jettis. I'm, considering, N. Statistically, due. Statistically, due, I'm, going, to, say either George Pickins or Floroi.
Well,, is, CD, out?, CD, is, uh, not, listed right now because, he's, in, the, concussion
because, he's, in, the, protocol. Let's, go, with, Georgie, boy. You, know, if, if, pick, if, Pickkins, play, or, if, uh, CD Lamb plays then Florenoi bad bet.
So,, let's, talk, this, out, real, quick because George Pickkins, he had a bad game. Everyone saw you had a bad game. What are they going to do? They're going to feed him the ball.
Yeah., Right., Let's, Let's, think, about George Pickkins to end a What is it? Plus 844.
Be, fun. That, would, be, fun., PFT. All right., So,, we, got, Pickkins., Who else?
Pickkins,, KD,, Amanra. Where, does, that, lose? Plus, 844. Okay., Okay., Let's, do, our, bets, and, then we'll have Jerry's fantasy minute. Then we're going to talk more ball with Dan Olowski. So, right now the standings are I have 18 points. Max has 16, Hank has 15, PFT 13 and a half. Memes 13, Zack 12 and a half. Very close, boys. What's the punishment?
We, got, It's, nut, cutting, time. It, is, nutting, time. I, I, like, I, like, No,
we, need, to, We, need, to, We, need, everyone to come prepared. We can't just Every week we do this. I like
we're, not, going, to, decide, on, one, right now and it is close enough and then we're, going, to, be, like, all right
I, like, the, idea, of, the, outdoor submissions the, outdoor, boys, video, would, be, that's, a good idea that Max had.
Isn't, he, a, politician, now? You, see, that, photo? Yeah. Well,, we, wouldn't, be, doing, a, a, collab.
I, don't, know. We, just, be, doing, our, video,, right,, Max? Yeah., We, would, just, do, our, own, video.
Yeah. Just, find, somewhere, to, go, do, do, an Outdoor Boys video. All right., Next, week, we, are, deciding, the punishment because we are close enough that, it's, it's, not, dead., You, know what, I mean? Like everyone's still alive. So,
are, we, doing, second, and, last? No,, I, think, we, just, go, last., Or, we, could do second last. I don't care. We got to figure all this out.
Yeah,, we'll, figure, all, this, out, next week. Okay., It's, good, podcast. We, got, to, figure, this, all, out., Yeah, this is good podcasting. We got to figure this out. We got to figure this out. Okay, pick. Who's up first?
Max., Me., I, am, going, Rams, Lions, over, 54 and a2. Love, it. I'm, going, to, take, the, Ravens, -, 2, and, 12 against the Bengals.
PFT. I'm, going, to, take, the, 49ers minus 12 and a half. Ah,, good, pick. I'm, going, to, take, my, official, switch, on advisers. Bills Patriots over 49 and a half.
I'm, going, to, take, the, Seattle, Seahawks minus 13 and a half. Do I have two?
Yeah., Nope. Nope. Nope. I, am, going, to, take, God, damn, it., I, wanted the 49ers. I'll go Cowboys minus 5 and a half. And Rams - 6.
Rams, -, 6. Wait., No., No., No., Can't, do, that. Disqualification. DISQUALIFICATION.
DISQUALIFICATION. UH, come, on,, [ __ ] Come on, you [ __ ] Get it going. Uh,, Jets,, Jaguars, over, 41, and, a, half. Uh, I would like to take the over and
the, Browns, Bears. Wow., Has, anyone, taken, the, Chiefs? Nope. Chiefs, minus, five, and, a, half.
Nope. I'm, going, to, take the under in Bears Browns. 38., Head, to, head. Boys,, it, got, spicy.
Yeah,, Hank's, a, [ __ ] I, think, Hank, is, like, undefeated, on, his Browns overs this year. It feels like every week he does this.
Yeah., Well,, that's, coming, to, an, end. Yep. I, would, like, to, take, the, over, in, the Chargers Chiefs game if that's still available.
Yeah., And, Max, I, really, want, to, take, Raiders, plus, 11 and a half, but I'm gonna the Shuckster is there, so I'm going to take Saints plus two and a half. Oo, Shster shuck him up. Okay, Jerry. We got Jerry.
I, got, Jerry. Gerard. Gerard., Oh,, look, at, him., God, damn, it. Looking at the Seeing the green trees bums me out. Welcome to my neighbor's house. It's uphill a little bit. I'm out of breath. I got one minute memes. Start the music. Start the music, memes. Look at all this positivity in my neighbor's house. I don't have this kind of positivity house. All right, we're going to sit uh the commenter who said I look like an aging lesbian on Wednesday's show on YouTube. That was pretty rude. Uh we're going to, sit, the, Eagles, offensive, line.
I watch them. They're terrible. Uh we're going to start AJ Brown's hands when he's tweeting. He's so good at tweeting his hands. We're going to sit AJ Brown's hands when he's, you know, trying to catch a ball or on a post route. We are going to sit Jaylen Herz when he's trying to read achievements just like we're going to sit Hanky when he's trying to read Donote. He dies at the end. Spoiler alert. Taking too long to read it Hanky. And uh we are going to uh stick people who hate positivity. We hate positivity. He's got a knife. JERRY'S GOT A KNIFE.
OH, every single week he comes up with a new spot. We got to give him credit for it. It's [ __ ] awesome.
I, thought, that, was, very, very, cool, Jerry. Good job, Jerry. I, love, Jerry.
We, got, to, buy, in, the, playoffs, in, fantasy football too. Like,, he, doesn't, just, sit, in, front., If, I were tasked with this job, I'd sit in front of the same spot and just, you know, oh, it's back here.
Yeah., If, if, this, segment, were, up, to, us, we just make stupid voices for six years.
Mhm., Exactly. Yeah. Okay,, let's, get, to, our, interview, with Dan Orlosski. Great time talking ball with him. Before we do that, PFT, you got a couple more ads.
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Give, me, your, list, of, teams, that, you think can actually win the Super Bowl this year.
All, right., Teams, that, I, truly, believe can win it. Number one, Rams. I'll start in the NFC. Rams. Rams. Like, there's no quarterback wide receiver group right now that sees it the same way consistently. The throws and the catches are stupid right now. I also think their run game is so repeatable um that like it's it's efficient and explosive. Uh second team in that conference would absolutely be Seattle if Sam Darnold's done some stuff recently when it comes to like my this way I say it is like he's doing things that get quarterbacks in trouble. He's just not getting in trouble. Um eventually you will. Um so that like gives me a little bit concerned but the defense is just off the charts good. So Seattle
what, is, that, by, the, way?, Can, you, tell, us what the things he does that gets guys in trouble? Like what are you seeing?
Yeah., So, the, big, thing, for, Sam,, which was his issue before, is he's so gifted and talented early in his career that you know, he would I would the way I would say it is like just because you can make all these cool throws with your feet all over the place doesn't mean you should. and he had gotten rid of that over the last two years where he we call it kind of like clicking through progressions meaning like hey the first guy that I think is should be open is not open okay like don't wait for him to try to get open or then go and make him open just get to the second option or the third option and it's almost like a a piston where you're just robotic in a way um hey one to two to three clicking through he he was doing a really good job of that I would tell you in the last month. It hasn't been the case. He's become, you know, like my constant notice. Stop stop doing this bad word.
Stop doing this. And it's not getting him in trouble because the opponent isn't good enough. Uh but it will eventually. So that's got to get more consistent out of Sam. Green Bay, I love Green Bay. I love their defense. I love their offense. Watson, Christian Watson to me has become like, you know, they're he's not as good as these guys, but like they're Andre Johnson, they're Nico Collins, they're Josh Gordon, like that offense needs that guy. Um I would tell you those are the three in the NFC that I'm very confident right now. AFC uh, Buffalo, I don't care what anyone says. I don't care. I understand their defense isn't very good. They got the best player in the league right now, or certainly one of them. Uh, if they're at home, I would put money on them to to go specifically since there's unlikely Josh or excuse me, unlikely Joe, unlikely Lamar, unlikely Pat in there. Um, but Buffalo just because the quarterback can
get hot as anybody. Um, Denver, the defense is good enough. Um I'd probably say Houston, I think the defense is that good. I I think the defense you How many teams are going to score 20 on them
right?, you, know,, they, all, you, got, to, do is if you if you Houston offensively can score 20, they can go on a three-game run. Um, so I would say those New England's there for me. I'm I'm very interested to see watch New England play this weekend against uh Buffalo in a enormous game.
Yeah., So,, so, you're, a, little, hesitant, to put the Patriots in there. Why is that? I obviously, you know, Drake May is having a great season this year. Vrabel is an excellent coach, one of the best. So, what is it about New England that's that's making you say, "I I want to see more."
Yeah., I'm, I'm, not, I, don't, stand, on, like the definitive no side. I, just, think, there, is, this, now, one, thing I love about them is like they're the team that we don't know how good they are. I would tell you they're the one team that has gotten better almost by the week. They are much better than they were in September. I guess it's the reality of you know like how good are they offensively in a in a when we when you get into like the winner go home game plan specific area. How good are they offensively? the the two rookie offensive linemen that are hurt and Campbell. Let's see. I you know, I was impressed with the way that they played against the Giants in the first game without those offensive linemen. How how long is Campbell going to be out? That's a big injury with a a guy that was playing very good. Um I still think I'm of the belief that the defenses just going to line up and nickel with putting
five defensive backs on the field. You can't let them do that and not just pound the football at them. Milton Williams injury. how how healthy is he going to be? So, um I'm not definitive like no. I lean more yes, but I I just think like as we get into this December era of football, how good is the youth of this football team? I think goes a long way.
Yeah. And, Dan,, we, we, like, to, do, this, with, a lot, of the, guests, we, have, on., It's called time capsule. We'll go into a time capsule real quick. Okay. So, I want you to close your eyes. I'm going to describe to you one game that you had in the NFL. And we we've busted your balls in the past. We did the thing. We made fun of the endzone thing. We're not going to do that again. Uh, this is a good one for you. I want you to think back to December 4th, 2011. You were starting quarterback in the NFL. Do you remember that game? Do you remember who you played against that day?
I, was, playing, for, the, Colts., We, were, on the road in New England. Yes,, it, was, against, the, Patriots., And you had maybe the best game of your career that day. Do you remember how many yards you threw for?
Uh,, I, think, I, threw, for, like, 368. Uh,, yeah,, I, see, 353, here., Wow., But, yeah, you're a member of the 300 club. So what did that moment mean to you? Every quarterback.
Yeah,, legit,, that, was, a, fun, day., I'm from Connecticut. Uh, Patriots were the hottest football team ever for that era. Um, all my friends for the most part were Patriots fans. I grew up watching Brady, idolizing Brady. So, the fact that like we went on the road late in the season, we weren't very good. We were playing a team that was like a real Super Bowl contender. I was going to get the chance to start. I had 50 people at the game. Uh, and then I think we we score and have the chance to kick an onside kick to go win the game. They recover it. Um, but like just having the chance to play in that place against that team and that quarterback and kind of in that era.
Yeah, dude., That, was, like, one, of the, coolest days of my career. Um, you went off
with, that., Yeah,, we, I, threw, I, threw pretty well. I remember I threw a couple touchdown passes, maybe Pierre Garson. Um, I got absolutely destroyed by Gerrod Mayo on one of them. Illegal, you know unsportsman conduct hit to the chin. Um and then Tom running up to me or me running up to Tom, uh, and him being like, "Hey, way to keep competing." Like, that was, as corny as it sounds pretty cool.
Yeah,, that's, awesome., Congratulations, on on making the 300 club. It's a big milestone for any career quarterback and uh really happy to see you on that list of guys that have done it.
I, want, to, know, how, many, guys, are, on, that list. Uh,, I, think, it's, more, about, the, guys, not on the list
really., Yeah,, I, I, would, agree., I, think it's like 300 something maybe two high 280s. We just had Shadore who got welcomed to the club last week when he kind of went off. So yeah, just it's important to acknowledge, you know, when when guys and guests of ours, people that we like, they have accomplished tremendous things and we just want to take our hat off and say, you know congrats,
great, job,, great, game,, Mr., 300,, Dan Olowski. Yeah, I, love, it., I, need, that, to, live, on, the internet more than the safety.
We, We'll, try, to, make, that, happen., Yeah. Remember the Dan Olowski game? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah., Uh,, I, want, to, talk, about, a, couple quarterbacks with you. Let's talk first about Caleb Williams. Obviously, I'm biased, but I have thought that year two, especially with Ben Johnson, it has looked better. And I know that people will say the completion percentage. I think that's a lot of times people not watching the game and seeing, you know some of these throwaways are plays that should have been sacks. Anyone else gets sacked and he's able to get out of it and get it away. And it's not perfect.
There's still some things that need to be cleaned up. The offense needs to be more consistent, especially like that game against Green Bay where it's like if the offense has a pulse in the first half.
Yep. They, don't, they, they, Bears, can, win, that game. But what have you seen from Caleb? And are you on the positive side of this is growth and it looks like it's getting better.
Yeah,, I'm, on, the, extreme, positive, side. I think that you have to walk away if you go back to August. And I I was um very cautious uh about the pairing of Ben and and Caleb. And and I also think like in this role, you have to be willing in the moment to just be as honest as you can and then be willing to to change the way you're viewing it. And while I was very cautious of the pairing because of the style of offense, I do think if you go back to August and you sit there and say, well, really just forget the team performance, what do you have to see from Caleb to feel good going into 2026 and beyond? I would tell you number one, stop creating problems for yourself. He's absolutely done that.
Now, it took till about October for that to present itself. What do I mean by that? Like a lot of times leaving the clean pocket just because you're an athletic. A lot of times trying to force the ball downfield on first and 20 in a small window because you don't like the check down or the shorter throw in front of you. on third down, you know, instead of trusting the progression or trusting the matchup, trying to think or believing I'm the best athlete on the field or one of them, let me go run and make a play. So, he's creating less problems for himself. Number one. Number two, he's playing more consistently in structure. Is it flawless? No. There not a lot of guys in the league that are but like he's he's more in structure.
He's playing more in rhythm and timing. um you see more options where he's underneath the center, play fake whether it's a play action or a drop back, and it's like, hey, ball's out first hitch. Ball's out, first hitch. And so, I think his growth and development in the play action game. Uh the third thing is holding on to the football much less in the confines of the play. Is he holding on the ball at times long? Yes. But that's because there's a pressure. He evades them. He's climbing a pocket and getting outside.
And so yes, he's holding the ball for 4 and a half seconds because he's outside of the pocket creating. And so like those things that you said that has to improve. It absolutely has improved. Um you know, some of the accuracy stuff I I also would sit here and tell you like I don't know if he's ever going to be Joe Burrow, right? Like I don't is he does he have to be? Um we've lived in this world with I' I've watched Pat Mahomes who's the best player I've ever seen have inaccurate throws. I watch Lamar Jackson who's one of the greatest quarterbacks of the last 30 years of the NFL have inaccurate throws. I watch Josh Allen who's, you know, having an another MVP like season having accurate throws.
So like those guys aren't necessarily these pinpoint accurate dudes all over the course of four quarters. They do things that overcome that or, you know kind of make up for it. And so yeah, I think you got to be really encouraged. Would I love for him to hit the layups more consistently? Yes. Do I think he will once he gets even more reps? Um for sure.
Yeah., And, I, also, think, like, the, the thing that has changed in my mind in this is you you watch the tape, you you grind it, you know what you're looking at. I'm going more from a just gut level feeling of it.
The, when, Caleb, has, a, pocket,, sets, his feet, and he he lets one rip over the middle of the field, I feel like it's been just money. And that's the that's like the difference where it's like, you know, there's going to be someone there and he's going to deliver a great ball and it just I have the confidence now that that's what's about to happen.
Yeah., And, I, also, say, that, for, sure, like you could watch some of the throws both in the pocket and outside of the pocket be like, man, that's sweet. You know and and you'd much rather have I would tell you I think most coaches and I would much rather have that guy that can do some of those things. You're like man, just that there's you're there's 10, 12, 14 of you guys on the planet that can do it and then figure out ways to get to, you know, some of the stuff that a player like myself can do. Like yeah, take this six-yard check down like roll the ball to them. And so, I think there's a lot of uncoachable traits there. Um, I'd also say this they're in a world now, and this is where you get into this development phase. Okay, so we're in the middle of December essentially. They're a playoff football team. You're so in the world of winning, like winning, you know, and how do we win? And so, are we really
hyperfocused on improvement and development and progressing some of those things? Probably not, cuz you're you're trying to like whatever it takes to win games. Uh, and your preparation within the week is probably very much so focused on that. And like, okay, I'm calling this play. How many times has Caleb run this play in a live environment versus this defense and you get this look? It might be a handful of times. And so I just there there's been a really good evolution. I I walk away very much so on the positive side.
I, love, that. Uh, Dan,, you're, uh, 43, years, old,, correct? 42. 42, years, old., Sorry, for, putting, that extra year on there. 42 years old. Uh you look like you're in in great shape. You always also look really comfortable. You're like the king of athleisure. You always look like you're just kind of feeling good. I appreciate that about you. Uh
I'm, immature., I, would, wear, sweatpants literally all the time. That's, Listen,, if, you, have a, job, where you can wear sweatpants, why not? You made it. Yeah, you won the lottery. Uh did you get a call from the Colts or did they pass you over when they when they called Philip Rivers?
No,, I, called, them., I, called, them, and, I said, "Guys, I am available." Uh dude, I I didn't No, I did not. I I got a text from a buddy that said, "You're you're younger than Patrick or Philip Rivers." I said, "I'm in the Shelton High School Hall of Fame. he is going to be in the NFL Hall of Fame. So, yeah
I'm, shocked. I, hope, it, works, out, great., I'm skeptical. Not because I want to be an a-hole, but like he's 44. I'm sure he could throw it. All that stuff, but it's wild to me that this is where it you got to feel for Colts fans. 12 years ago they drafted Andrew Luck
and, you're, like,, "All, right,, sweet., We got it." And then, nope, no. And Andrew walks away. And then a couple years ago it's like we got Carson Wentz and he goes on like a little bit of a run. You're like Carson Wentz is back and then, it, falls, off, the, the the, face, of the earth and then we're going to draft the freakazoid from Florida and he has like his first game. He launches the ball 100 yards down field like we got a guy and then he can't do all the necessarily necessary things. he's got a broken face or broken, you know, bone in his face. And then you get Daniel Jones like, wait, this is the one that's going to solve all the problems. Like he's an MVP candidate and then that happens. So
I, I, feel, bad, for, Colts, fans. It's, been, bad., I, I, have, a, I, have, a question kind of outside of uh what's going on in the NFL this year. And this is a a permission to glaze you for a second. Do you ever get bothered when people online are like, "Olowski sucked in, the, NFL., Why, are, we, going to, listen to him? Because I I always I get bothered for you in the fact that I don't think people realize how hard it is to be good enough to start an NFL game. If you start an NFL game as a quarterback, that means you are one of like a handful of guys that have the talent to be able to be in that position. Whether you end up having a great career or not, you're still really good at quarterback to even be at that level.
People, say, that, about, me, on, the internet. No, I'm just saying like I SEE LIKE LIKE OUR GUY Biz gets that, you know, like Biz gets that where it's like he scored seven goals or whatever. It's like but he made the like to make the NHL and play in the NHL.
That, means, you're, so, much, better, than, so many people and all of a sudden because you're not Wayne Gretzky, it's like you can't have an opinion. It's crazy to me.
Yeah., So, that's, why, I, asked, about, the 300 yard stuff we were talking about before cuz one of 300 or so like on the history of the planet there's 8 billion plus, I, don't, know how, many, people there's actually been.
Um, yeah, like, I, always, say, you, know, uh, I think there's been just short of like a thousand people that have played 10 or more years in the NFL. So I I've played for 12 years whether I was playing every snap or played sparingly or whatnot like I did you know. So, I don't get caught I used to get caught up in that a ton, but yeah, I don't like I I live in Westport Connecticut, right? Um, we got a lot of really good like my my one of my favorite things is like we got a lot of really good young athletes and so some of the, times, the, parents, come, up, to, me and they're like, "Hey, is this time like should I get Peter over here private lessons?" And I was like "What do you mean?" He was like "He was three for four today for with three singles."
And I'm like it ain't it ain't gonna happen. Like it doesn't he doesn't that's not real life. And so
that's, a, great, point,, by, the, way, because I think that's part of it is that I saw some I saw somewhere there was like a poll and it was like 30% of uh parents thought that their kid was going to play D1 sports and then 20% thought they were going to go pro. And I think it's more just that like people don't can't conceptualize that like the best athlete you knew is still so far away from being in a in the pros.
Yeah,, correct., Like, I, I, remember, um talking to um Tyler at Dude Perfect because I've played some sports with Tai and I've golfed with Ty and like he's a good athlete and so I was like tell me about like your your sports background. Like were you a superstar in high school? Like because you could just play golf with him, see him move. And he's like no dude I was I was very average in high school. And so like even that there's levels there's just levels like I always my joke is when the parents are asking me about it. I'll be like, I'll have Marcus Spears. Marcus Spears is ridiculous athletic jeans, him and his wife, and his son is the number one hooper in the country for his age group.
And I'll be like, Marcus, send me a video of of Junior. And I'll take the video and show it to the parents and be like, "Does your son or daughter look like this?" Right?
If, not,, it, ain't, happening., You, know, like they if they don't look like this when they run around and move around and do what they're doing. So, um
yeah,, dude., I, also, like I, don't, know., I, I, used, I'm, going to, be honest here. I'll be honest here. I'm going to get killed for it, but I don't care. Like, I used to be one of those people that had that thought of like yeah, if you didn't play, I don't know how much I actually care of what you say. This is probably a decade or so ago. And as I've been in this industry and I've been around people who have not played at certainly a high level, but when I hear him talk, I'm like, "Yeah you get it. You understand it. You can see it. That's a good point." Um, I I I have the same thought process. you kind of think the same way as me. Like I've become much more um open to like having people who maybe didn't play um professional sports have their thoughts on sports. I also did it didn't did nothing to become 6'5. Um some people are like really good athletes but 5'9 5'10 and so like that's not their fault.
So right I, don't, really, care, that, people, say, it anymore. Um I'm I'm so used to it.
That, that's, healthy., All, right,, that, was a side tangent because I just always was curious because I I I get mad for you because I I don't think people understand what it what it takes to get to that level. It's so
I, sometimes, want, to, fire, like, I sometimes want to fire. You, should, we'll, do, it, for, you.
Yeah,, you, should, send, it., Text, us, a tweet and we'll just we'll we'll we'll
I, had, a, run, last, year, someone, was, saying like I think there was something going on and I playfully always like comment sometimes mocking myself. I love self-deprecation. And it was something about Calvin and him going to the Hall of Fame. I was like, I made him. And everyone was like, you're a little bit of this and that. And so then I think it was the year of 2008, I just posted Calvin's stats because Calvin had like 89 catches for 1,500 yards and 13 touchdowns or something. And I was like "Yeah, I mean, Calvin, look at the stats, guys. I was for quarterback for that year. No big deal." Kind of stuff.
So sometimes I'll fire him back. What what was it like playing with him? Because Calvin Johnson was a guy, if you didn't watch him play, he was the definition of a cheat coat. He was huge he was strong, he had great hands, he was fast, and he he retired way too soon in my opinion. Good for him. I'm glad that he felt secure enough to walk away when it was right for him. But I wanted to watch him play more because he was so dominant. When you were playing quarterback with him, was it sometimes just like, I'm going to throw the ball up. That's just the game plan. Calvin is on that side of the field. I'm gonna throw the ball in his general direction and he'll figure out what to do from there.
Oh,, 100%., I, mean,, I've, got, so, many Calvin stories. One, most the most physically gifted athlete I've probably ever been around. He's 6'5, as am I. I just remember walking into the shower one time and um mirrors into the bathroom in our facility and Calvin and I are walking into the shower. couple of things don't look like the other. And uh Calvin's hips were like to my chest. And so just he was this long, lean ridiculous athlete. He had a great work ethic. Um and I don't need to wax poetic of like how good he was. But I'll never forget, we were going on the road against Indie. I was starting at this time and we put in a play where Calvin was going to run like five yards and run a hitch route. Just we butt hook hitch whatever we called it. Five yards. It was great. Indie played three two coverages. Cover three, which is soft and cover two, which there's a corner right there. And versus cover three
it's a great play. Like, you take the ball, you throw it to the better player. It's recess. Like, my guy, just go get eight yards. It stinks versus cover two the play, because the corner is standing right there. So, I remember we're installing this play and I'm like, I raised my hand in the install. I'm like hey, what are we going to do versus cover two? And they're like, Calvin, if we get cover two, just run a go route. And so a couple seconds ago, I go, "What if we what what do you want me to do with the ball if it's cover two?"
Because in cover two, there's a corner right there and then there's a safety over the top. And they're like, "Well if we get cover two, just wait a second and throw it deep to Calvin."
And, so, my, initial, reaction, is, like, "You're coaching me to throw into double coverage. I
can, we, do, something, else?", And, so, I, was like "I don't like that. Like, can we do something else?" And they're like "No, if we get cover two, Calvin just run down the field and Dan just throw it high." And I go into the game, I'm like "Fudge, we're going to call this play. I'm going to get cover two. I'm going to throw an idiot. I'm going to look like a douchebag." And so, drop back. All right. Get the ball. Um, I see cover two and I'm like, "Fudge." Over two dudes heads, just launched the ball like 30 yards downfield. He plucks it out of the air and I just looked to the sideline. I was like, "I got it."
Yeah. Yeah., Throw, it, up, to, him. Easy, as, that., Calvin, down, there., So,, it was the definition of the meme. Calvin down there somewhere. I'm going to let it rip. Uh Dan, I you had a tweet the other night which I I agreed with both sides of it and you talk about something that where you know sometimes people on the couch they just yell stuff at the TV and they don't really know what they're talking about. Sometimes that stuff comes true. Uh so the first part of your tweet I think meattheads were way ahead of the curve on this. Just watching football and being like running the football in shotgun formation stinks.
Using shotgun formation all the time stinks. and uh your take on it was that the Eagles were in shotgun way way way way, way way, way too much. And we'll get to the second part of your tweet after that, but I just want to hear you explain uh from like a an intelligent football savvy point of view why using shotgun information all the time is detrimental for an offense.
Oh,, okay., So, number, one,, if, I, line, up under center, every play is available to me when it comes to like the defensive thoughts of what I can do and every direction is available to me. There's very little tendency or tell when I'm the quarterback and I just line up under center and the running back's right behind me. I can hand it off to the left. I can hand it off to the right. I can hand it off inside inside left. I can hand it off outside left. Inside right, outside right. I can fake it inside left. I can fake it inside right.
I can fake it outside left. I can fake it out. I could drop back. I could throw it quick. I could throw it deep. I could throw short. Like there's I can fake it left and go outside to the right. There's everything available. When I line up in the shotgun, there's a smaller option of what I can do. And there it's easier for the the defense to figure all that out. Okay, if I'm in the gun gun, and, the, back's, to, my, left,, am, I actually going to hand the ball outside left? Am I gonna am I going to hand the ball inside left? Because that's really hard for a tailback to be to the left of a shotgun quarterback, get the ball, and then get on the right track when it comes to the timing of blocks. Um, am I going to fake the ball to the left and then go all the way out to my right?
Again, you it's there's it's the unlikelihood of. So, I think it shrinks what the defense has to think about. The second thing is when I'm under center, I turn my back to you in a play action fake. You cannot see the ball and the gun. You can't all the time. There's always you can always see the football. Now, Minne or Miami would at times like spin 20 around for some of their play picks, which I like, but it's not the defense is very rarely when you're in the shotgun playing on their heels. Like, if you could imagine a quarterback under center, taking a ball or taking the snap and immediately opening up to his left and giving his the defense his back, defenders are constantly thought "Go to the ball or talk, go to the ball go to the ball." So, like their initial reaction is like, I don't see the ball.
I'm going to go chase the ball. I'm going to chase the action. Where in the shotgun, you you constantly see the ball. The quarterback catches it right around chest level. You can see always defensive linemen can see like if you watch teams I watch defensive linemen against shotgun teams, they'll the ball gets snapped and like they're engaging with the offensive lineman while also like looking at the quarterback because they can see the ball. So, like it's just easier, I think. And so, I don't think it forces defenses to play nearly as in doubt, which is should be one of your offensive goals. And so, um, that's the deep dive of like at least the initial point of why I I don't like it as much as under center.
Yeah,, it's, a, great, explanation., And, then the second part of your tweet was about Justin Herbert, the quarterback for the Chargers after Monday Night Football. You said Herbert is an animal champion warrior legend. High praise. Is that the first? Is he the only animal, champion warrior, legend? Is there anybody else who's an Is this just something like on the fly you just you typed animal and you're like that's not enough champion. That's not enough warrior. That's not enough. Legend or did you hit like the autofill thing that's at the top right of your of your screen where it's like you might want to use this word next. I I want you to walk us through the animal champion warrior legend honor that you bestowed upon.
So, my, favorite, version, of, football, is high school football. Um, I I I just I love high school football. My kids are about to be playing high school football. That is a saying from when I played high school football. So, I played high school football in Shelton Connecticut. Um, it's a it's called the Valley. It's a little bit of a bluecollar town. And our our coach and our strength coach at this time was a dude named Chris Anderson. Total maniac. Absolute psychopath in the best way. Um and so like he had this saying of like creating the identity of what we were going to be as high school football players, athletes, and it was an animal champion warrior legend. And it was like this is Yeah, dude. It was great.
And, so, like, we, that, was, uh, and, he, he also had this uh saying called Mafu MAFU. We used to chant it on the sidelines like um mental toughness uh animal warrior fanatical effort and unity. That's what mafu stood for. We used to be on third down be like mafu mafu. Um and so like the animal champion warrior legend was like that badge of honor as a high school football player where like if you got to that level like you were
you, were, a, dude., Uh,, and, so, like, it, just I actually got text messages from them the other day like, "Hey, this is copyrighted. You can't use this."
That's, awesome. I, mean,, I, get, it, and, and, that's, actually a great description for our He played like a a tough ass high school quarterback on Monday Night Football with that broken hand. So, yeah, listen good job describing it. I think that I think you nailed it. He's an animal champion warrior legend.
Yeah. Yeah, he, was. And, I, tweeted, out, you, and, so, many, people were like, "He sucked. He played terrible. Herbert blah blah blah." I'm like, I never said anything about how he played. I I just said they're like playing with a broken hand after surgery. Hats off.
Getting, sacked, seven, times., All, right. So, on the other side of that game, the Eagles, are they broken beyond repair? Max seems to think so. Uh but give him some positivity. Like, is there a fix here? Because their defense is really really good. And you saw it on Monday night. It's if their offense can figure it out a little bit, they could be back in the Super Bowl.
Yeah., So,, I, actually, liked, a, lot, of, what I saw from their offense on Monday night. I and and probably more encouraged coming out of that game than I have been in two months with their offense. For two months, it's just been like you're predictable. You run the same routes. Your offense is a very pass game wise like straight line. There's very little horizontal. There's very little play action. And so, I saw a lot more of the things that I believe are needed in offensive football nowadays in the NFL. Um, yes, interceptions. Two of them are dropped. One of them's a bad decision by the quarterback. Um, another is not having to plan for pressure. So like I'm not sitting here everyone telling like, "Yeah, this is this is solving all the issues." But I do think if you clean up three or four or five plays, uh, which Herz has notoriously done, I think that there's a lot to be encouraged from. Lane Johnson's got to
get healthy. We all know that. So, I mean that's just like watching them play. I think if you can clean up some of that stuff, the likelihood of them dropping two interceptions not going to be a consistent thing. So like I do believe walking away from that game, there's a lot on tape that you can sit there and go like, "Hey, we there this this was a better and more creative scheme and version of who we can be this year. We can't talk about last year anymore. This ain't the same group as last year. Um but I don't like listen, you hear stuff about what's going on behind the scenes.
Whether it's true or not, whether there's reality to, you know, the AJ Brown and Jaylen Herz not getting along you hear it. I don't know whether that people are running frustrated once again with the quarterback. You hear it. I don't know if that's true. That's not me spreading rumors or gossiping. You just hear And so like is that stuff as hard to overcome as even as much as like a lack of talent or scheme diversity? Yeah. Like I think when they went on their Super Bowl run, it was like the tightest team ever. Um this feels like with all the noise that you're hearing around like a team that might be separating and like the the the furthest from that. And so I do think that it's um they can get it together scheme wise if that they clean some stuff up, but will they get it together uh when it comes to like truly like love playing with each other? Like you could watch Buffalo play and you're like those dudes
love playing football together. Like those dudes love playing football together. I don't necessarily get that vibe when I watch Philly. And the craziest part is if AJ Brown catches that pass, like a lot of this feels better because they win a big game on Monday Night Football. And it was a great throw from Jaylen Herz.
Yeah,, totally., And, I, um, you, know, Jaylen it's Jaylen I he's such a lightning rod because and I've said this I used to be crazy critical of Herz and I used to be like and then he goes on you know he has a season where he's kind of trending towards an MVP and then he goes to the Super Bowl and he he plays just as good if not better than Patrick and they lose on the last play of the game. They have a down year under a new coordinator. He goes to this this past 2024 season. He goes on a really good run. He plays good during the re regular season, okay? But he has a pretty darn good playoff run.
He's ridiculous in the Super Bowl. And so you're like, "All right, I can't necessarily hate on you all the time. You're you you're proving everybody who hates on you wrong. You ball in the biggest moments. If I took you outside right now and we just took all the starting quarterbacks and we just put you in shorts and we threw it, you wouldn't be the guy that you're like "That's the pick I want." You know, like he'd probably be in the, you know, the 15 to 18 range as far as like just dropping back and throwing the football and and looking like a a thrower or a passer, but he's big in big time moments. And so like, no. Are we taking Jaylen Herz as a a superstar um stereotypical quarterback? No. But um I do think that he's just played at a high level in big moments.
Yeah., Yeah. Yeah., He, has., And, uh, Max,, do, you, feel any better? He gave you a little bit of positivity.
Yeah,, it's, positivity. Um, no. Okay., Okay. But, thank, you., I, I, appreciate, I appreciate the the uh the explanation. Thank you for the attempt. All those words you said, I will not take any of them into consideration.
I, saw, um, they, were, asking, Nick, Serriani today in press conferences if he was going to bench Herz.
Yeah,, great, question, by, the, media., Yeah, great qu I'm just so glad that the question was asked. It tells me that the media still got their fastball.
I, mean,, this, dude, 11, months, ago, won, MVP of the Super Bowl. Yeah. They're, like,, "Hey,
Tanner, McKe, though,, things, change, for us. He, might, win, multiple, Super, Bowls., You never know."
Yeah., Uh,, which, uh, which, of, these, two teams do you think is more dead? The Chiefs or the Cowboys?
Um,, that's, a, great, question., I, would tell you I, think, it's, the, Chiefs., Um,, I, think it's the Chiefs for the now and for like the immediate future.
Okay., cuz, I, I, was, just, assuming, that, the Chiefs they go through their eras appropriately and and now they're in their eras era and then after this they're just going to reinvent themselves and be fine. But yeah. Yeah. Why do you why do you say that?
One,, this, is, a, team, that's, been, trending for two years now with the we just got to like self-inflicted wounds hurt us. we maybe it's not just the self-inflicted wounds like maybe there's been a lot masked because you know the quarterback and the coach have been so good in so big moments. So like if you look at the Chiefs right now unlikely to make the playoffs um what's big question marks with okay what does Travis do for his future? They're $32 million over the cap for next year. How do you rebuild the offensive line that once again has been disappointing? The defense has fallen off the face of the earth. This is a defense that for the last two three years has been top five in just about everything. They're bottom five in a bunch and their main identity was pressure., They're, like, one, of the, worst blitzing teams when it comes to like the ability to blitz, the efficiency of blitzing, the execution of blitzing. Um
their best covered corner has kind of had an up and down year. McDuffy. And so like Chris Jones, what's his future? He hasn't been nearly as dominant. And so for a team that has that much money over the cap and gonna have to it it feels like not only make some decisions from like an organizational perspective on some guys, but maybe those guys also having to make a decision
and, this, is, a, division, that, with, the Chargers and the Broncos are just like doing this. Yeah.
And, so, like, I, think, that, there's, a, real Okay. What truly is the future of Kansas City? We know Patrick's ridiculous. Um and that's this doesn't say anything other than that, but like I just think like this is a little bit I don't know if it's just a snap my fingers and all of a, sudden, we're, back, to, being,, you know, the Super Bowl favorite next year because there's there's a lot of unknown and question mark where like if you're Dallas offensive line's really good and cheap. The the receivers are ridiculous.
The franchise tag pickings would be my guess. Dak played great this year. You got a young back that you like. the defensive line is much improved. You know, I I think that there's like a reality for Dallas with some of their picks. You're sitting there going "Dallas can be a really good football team next year if they draft well and um are able to like maneuver the cap a little bit."
Yeah., Okay,, Dan,, I, got, one, last, question for you. This is always great having you on. We love having you on. Uh Rob question rac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. QZiffs, polos, hoodies joggers, shorts. Robback.com promo code take. I want to ask you about a team that gets not a lot of media coverage but you can make the argument is one of the hottest teams in the NFL, the Jacksonville Jaguars. Are they for real? Um, I'm going to say yes, they're for real. One, we talked about the conference being wide open. Uh it depends on who shows up at quarterback. I think Trevor Lawrence has plays and stretches where you're like you're the best player in football. Like you you you look like the best player of the position. I mean, he has some throws and some plays, athletic running. I think he's much more um athletically instinctual this year. He's he's less robotic, which has always been my
complaint about Trevor. You're try to be too perfect. Just freaking go play. Like I, don't, know if, you've, seen, Trevor, in person, but like Trevor's
he's, a, monster., I, mean,, he's, a, monster. and sometimes like so like he's much better in that regard this year. Um and so again he has plays you're like holy crap and then he has plays you're like what are you doing dude? Like why did like why are you why did you do that? Like why did you make that throw? And so like it's what guy shows up? Um the defense is good. Like they're aggressive. I don't think that they're locked down or or dominant, but like dude, if Trevor shows up and and those receivers are playing at the level they got to catch the football, like can can Jacksonville go on the road to um the Chargers and beat them? No question. You know, can they get to the final four at the AHC? Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah., Okay. Yeah., Jaguars, are, gonna, be, very, I, feel like they have been disrespected a little bit. Like people are not taking them seriously as a football team right now. They've been playing really good football, especially since that the the fourth quarter against the Texans when uh Liam Cohen was like "Just let it rip, dude. Let it rip." And that's what he's done. I looked it up. You are the uh you're one of 412 quarterbacks to ever throw for 300 yards in a game. So congrats. Uh I thought it was a little more than that, but that's the modern era.
I'm, going, to, respond, to, a, lot, of, the stuff on the internet with saying I'm not one of one, one of 412. and see who picks it up. See who gets it.
Yeah,, it's, it's, an, elite, club. Congratulations on being in it. Uh and so yeah, we like having you on, Dan. Thank you for the insight.
Yes, I, appreciate, you, guys., Good, to, be, with you. All right., And, also,, congrats, on, uh calling Monsters, Inc. That was sick.
It, was, awesome., It's, a, lot, of, fun,, you know, like I think it is what it the game helped it, you know, like the game was such a like chaotic disaster that it was actually ideal for that type of setting. My son
I, do, it, for, my, mainly, for, my, son., Like it's cool to be a part of, but my son who's autistic loves character creation and animation and imagination. So like he honestly was the happiest human on the planet.
That's, awesome., Very, cool., I, love, it., I love it. All right, Dan. Thanks so much man.
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Firefest, of, the, week., Hank, I'm, getting, banged, by, the, auto, industry. Oh, no.
I, don't, really, know., I, don't, really, know what to do. We, got, so, many, positivity, animals.
You, got, hit, by, a, car. No., Uh probably less than two months ago. my I had like a you know you're losing pressure in your tire like signal that kept coming on on my car
kept, filling, it, up, kept, coming, on, I'm like all right it's probably something wrong with my tire brought it in
to, get, one, simple, fix, and, then, they banged me they're like well you, need, to, fix, replace, this, tire, you should probably replace all four and here's like six other things that it's not mandatory that you replace them but you probably should and I was like [ __ ] it like my car's already been here save the time if I have to do it again like this will this will set me I'll be good for like a year at least.
They, they, pretty, much, had, your, car hostage and then they came out and they're like if you want to get it back I'd highly recommend you do all this.
And, then, today, my, tire, thing, was, like, it was it was worse than it ever was. Came back on new tire same like my back left tire.
Uh but, you, have, a, sick, car. I, have, a, sick, car, but, I, don't, it's Is, it, the, sickest, car?
No. Who's, got, the, sickest? Probably, the, El, Camino., Yeah, but, like non-secondary, cars.
Hank's, right. What, do, you, mean? Like, non-secondary, cars., Your, primary car.
Is, your, car, sicker, than, mine? It's, cool., It's, Yeah,, it's, it's, fresher. It's more custom.
Your, car, is, sicker, than, mine. More, custom. You're, You're, not, saying, your, car, is sicker than mine anymore.
Hank's, also, put, a, lot, of, work, into, his car. Yeah., And, I'm, going, to, have, to, now, put more.
It's, crazy, that, Hank, bullied, you, into getting a new car. But, then, I, got, a, way, sicker, car, than him. But he car but I but now he can't now he can't say [ __ ] cuz I got a sicker car than you. Bro
you, do, have, a, sicker, car, than, me., That's a fact. But when it's parked next to Jerry's car, it kind of looks like little bro.
That, is, that's, accurate., Yeah, that's, fine., Jerry, needs, a, booster, seat to get in his Escalade.
Yeah., Yeah,, imagine., Imagine, that. I, also, saw, the, new, Hummers, yesterday, on the street. Looks kind of sick. Um
the, one, that, the, crabwalk it's, like, a, it, although, it's, electric which like kind of defeats the entire purpose of Hummer. Uh
also, Jerry, lives, in, the, suburbs., He, can have a car that like that. I can't like driving that around and parking in the city would suck.
Hey,, I, I, did, consider, getting, the, uh, the electric Hummer because it does a thing you can cripwalk your car. It goes like sideways.
Really? Yeah., It's, awesome. That, would, be, very, PFT. Uh,, yeah., I, don't, know., I, don't, know what I'm going to do. But yeah, it just it sucks. It sucks cuz I'm such a [ __ ] and I know that I'm not going to do anything, but I know like I should cause a stink. Well, what what do they need to fix? Whatever., I, don't know., I, have, to, bring it in again, but it's like I brought it in a month and a half ago and it cost you a nail in your tire.
I, don't, I, don't, know., I, got, a, new, tire. Like it's just weird. Yeah., I, don't, know, why, you, got, a, new tire when you probably just had a
I, got, four, new, tires., And, this, sounds like they got you on that one. But then it's the same
the, same, issue., So, it's Yeah,, it's, like, but, your, back, left higher. It's like almost like
they, got, to, check, the, computer, set. It, sounds, like, a, skill, issue., It, sounds like you're driving your car over something that that deflates it.
Well,, Max,, your, your, mic, is, on. Well,, it, means that, was, me., That, was, me., I, thought, uh it was Hank's suspension. I was going to say that.
Where, your, suspension's, wrong. They, fixed. You, got, to, figure, this, out.
Everything, that, they, said, I, should, fix, even if it wasn't mandatory, I said fix it. Same thing.
Oh,, that's, why, you, got, banged. That's, what, I'm, saying. Yeah., If, you, go, in, and, just, say, fix everything.
No., No., They're, like, you, you, got, to replace the tire and then also like it was like your alignment and suspension should probably be fixed. I'm like, you know what?, [ __ ], it., I'll, spend, the money. Just fix everything.
Okay. But, now, you're, going, to, go, in, with, the tan and the bleach hair. True.
They're, going to, know, not, to, [ __ ], with you. True., True. Like, this, guy, means, business., He's probably got a blade on him.
It's, true. Yeah., Okay., Uh, my, firefest, of, the, week is uh kind of laughed about it a second ago because it's kind of funny. Um we were just filming a commercial this week and uh one of the scenes was in the El Camino and me and Zach were in there. Zach did a great job by the way.
Good, job,, Zach. In, the, commercial, shoot, and, they, were trying to frame up the shot correctly and uh the guy came over to me. He's like, "Hey, PFT, can can we fold up this blanket and have you sit on it to make to make your to make your head higher?"
I, looked, over, at, Zack., I, go,, "Zack,, this doesn't leave the car." Oh,, no.
This, this, never, happened., Um,, it, I'm, a I'm a consmate professional. And I was like, "Yeah, sure. Yeah, no problem. I'll sit on I'll sit on the booster blanket. No problem." Um, but yeah, it was uh it was announced in front of the entire crew.
Time, for, you, to, get, on, a, booster blanket. O, yeah,, whatever., I'm, as, God, made, me., Um, I was just reminded that when Hank was talking about the booster thing with Jerry. And then my my real firefest of the week is uh the level of discourse with the James Madison Dukes and the Oregon Ducks I think has reached critical mass. I think we've had we've gone through all the different phases where we're like why isn't Notre Dame in why is the playoff set up like this? They're going to get blown out. I've tried to be very humble about everything because I know that Oregon is a much bigger, stronger, more physical team loaded with NFL guys on that roster. JMU uh has some great players, but they've probably got like three guys that could play on the Ducks.
Um and then yesterday Bud said that it was possibly a health and safety issue. Bud, Elliot.
Bud, Elliott., Yeah., Bud, Elliott, was, like, "This has become a health and safety issue."
You, threw, you, threw, out, Bud, like, he, was good friend of ours. Yeah., Bud, said, it.
But Bud, Elliott, co-host, with, Tom Fredelli on the Cover Three podcast. Great podcast. And he he knows he knows way more about every roster than I could ever imagine to scratch the surface of. He he knows.
So, you're, saying, it, is, a, health, and safety? No., He, said, he, he, reached, the, point where he was like, I'm worried for the health and safety of JMU playing against Oregon. Like Oregon doesn't play against FCS teams every year. Like Oregon doesn't play against bad quintoff games. Not playoff games. But it's the the discourse has now gone so far off the charts.
Yeah. That, I'm, just, ready, to, say, [ __ ], it. Let's go win the game. Yeah.
Why?, Why, not?, because, they're Why, not? I'm, Listen,, I, I'm, rooting, for, you., I'm gonna bet on JMU. I want you guys to shock the world because I think it would be awesome and hilarious.
And, I, don't, like, Oregon., I, have, nothing. Oregon has given me some bad losses. Although in football, they've given me some bad losses. But
if, you, want, me, to, play, Devil's, Advocate, why not? Oregon's better. Why, not, though?, because, they're, so, good that it actually is potentially a health and safety issue.
It's, not, a, health, and, safety, issue, to, to to pretend I'm, saying, it's, a, health, and, safety issue
to, pretend, to, be, concerned, that, that people are going to be going to the hospital in this game because the Oregon Ducks are so much better than than JMU. You know what? I'm going to I'm going to use the Jay Billis. It's a little bit disingenuous. Yeah.
Yeah., We're, not, the, best, team., Yeah, they're, much, better, than, us., Yes., Notre Dame is a much better football team than we are. Don't care. I'm I'm at the point now where it's like the the public is now so anti
T, lane, and, anti-JMU, that, now, I, have, to be [ __ ] you. Let's go win the football game.
Yeah,, I'm, I'm, rooting, for, you., I'm rooting for two lane because I want to see it shoved in the f like I'm I'm a firm believer. I understand Notre Dame should be in and I I think they should have been in over Alabama, but I don't think that you can have a college football play. People will say, "Oh, you can't have a college football playoff without the 12 best teams." You also can't have a college football playoff if you just eliminate half of the sport just because they're smaller schools.
Yeah. So,, they, got, to, find, an, equal, place. Last year, like I said, we had 12 teams and and the bottom half of them were not good enough. This year, we had too many teams. It happens.
Also,, in, the, first, round, of, the, playoffs last year, if you look at the scores they were lopsided. They were there almost all blowouts. Yeah. And I would argue that maybe the biggest blowout might have been the closer game, which was Indiana against uh Notre Dame. No it was it was uh Ohio State Tennessee. Remember that game?
That, was, a, blowout. That, was, a, [ __ ], [ __ ], kick. But, I, know, Indiana, lost, by, like, 10 points, but that game it felt like it was a 35point victory for Notre Dame.
Yeah. U, so, people, are, like,, "You, might, get blowouts." Guess what? You had blowouts before.
It's, not, a, health, and, safety, issue., Stop saying it's a health and safety issue.
Okay., No, one, say, it., Uh, my, firefest simple. Well, it's it's just everyone in this office is sick and I am knock on wood feeling okay right now, but I think that the timing has set me up for failure where I'm going to get sick right when we take a break and it's [ __ ] and it's not right. It happens. It's not right. It shouldn't be like you It shouldn't be It shouldn't be allowed. Shouldn't be allowed. I don't get We We get very few breaks in the in the calendar year. They're gonna get me sick right before the break.
Yeah,, our, bodies, know. And, I, also This, is, a, safe, space, to, be, sick, now.
It, doesn't, help, because, I, just, don't sleep either. There's just no My house we don't do sleep. It's [ __ ] crazy. We just don't do sleep. No one sleeps. We just every night we just we at 2 o'clock in the morning. It's a [ __ ] party in my house. So, what's up? We doing something? Oh, we're up.
Oh,, we, we, just, want, to, walk, around, and do [ __ ] That's just what we do in my house. On the on the nights where I do go to bed early, those are nights that I can't fall asleep.
But, I, I'm, too, tired. I, fall, asleep., I, then, get, woken, up, every single I'm on a streak of like a month straight of being woken up in the middle of the night.
That's, tough. It's, [ __ ], brutal., We, don't, sleep. It's just a rule in my house. No sleep. You got no naps, right, Hank? I got no sleep.
Tough, day. It's, a, rule. Okay. I, can't, believe, I, woke, you, up, that, one time.
Oh, when, when, was, that?, That, was that, was, when, the, the, podcast, didn't post. No
no,, that, was, Taylor, Swift. Oh., Oh,, yeah., That's, right. Why?, What, happened, with, Taylor, Swift?
We, thought, we, were, going, to, get, sued because we had Taylor Swift on. Oh,, yeah., At, the, uh, at, the, invitation.
That, was, better, safe, than, than, sorry. Oh, yeah. That's right. I was like, "How did you wake me up? I have my phone on silent." Yeah, you came in. You came in and Yeah, that's
that, might, have, been, the, the, night before that might have been the last time I slept a full night. You started the streak.
Oh,, no., The, night, BEFORE, THAT, WAS, ZACK. ZACH, DID, IT., NO,, I, think, Zach, did, it, the night after.
Yeah,, the, night, after, when, Zach, just woke up at 5 in the morning for no reason
just, to, wake, me, up. That, was, bad. Yeah., I, actually, think, that, there's, like a conspiracy. I I had the thought because I had like two weeks ago, I want to say I had a night where my kids didn't wake me up and Stella had diarrhea. So, it was like I I was up like, four, times, in, the, middle, of the night taking her out. I was like, I think there's a conspiracy going on to make sure I don't sleep. But guess what? Built different. I got it. Knock on wood because I really don't want to get sick. All right,, Zach,, finish, this, off.
My, favorite, of, the, week, is, a, quick, one as well. It's the dead car batteries. Uh, so we were uh the other day we had to do some like a Chevrolet Jenga in the back in the garage because we've got uh we, got, double, vanny, and, we, got, the El Camino coming in for the winter
and, they, all and, so, none, of, them, currently, start currently run for for like maybe a number of reasons.
Yeah. They're, they're, pretty, parked., We, need to make space. Uh the double vans they're kind of long. The fullsize vans right?
Mhm. And, so, we, had, to, like, we'll, start, the double vanies to get the Camino in. We weren't sure if we were gonna pull them up and go sideways or if we were going to take one out and replace it, but then take one out and replace it. Went away because nothing is starting. So, we're we're kind of brainstorming. I'm like how do we move these massive?
We, should, get, a, third, van. Yeah, we, should., But, make, sure, it, doesn't work.
So,, we, got, the, Jenga. Yes., And, we, c, But, we, So,, the, idea, we're finally like I almost drove Vandy 1.0 through a storage container. Oh
I, thought, I, thought, taking, it, out, of park would, would, help, start, it.
Oh, did, it? No,, but, it, started, rolling, it. Oh,, your, foot, wasn't, on, the, brake.
Oh,, that's, great. I, think, it, might, be, less, a, foot, on, brake than more so doesn't have that much brakes because the day before I almost ended up between the storage container and the van.
Oh, my, god. Cuz, the, plan, was, all, right,, we'll, just go in neutral and roll it. Yeah.
But, the, garage, is, on, a, hill. Yeah., And, she's, a, heavy, [ __ ], And there's a there's two dudes from the shootute and the tow truck guy there and like the the vote on just roll them ended up being the majority, but then they're just like, "Okay, we'll get in front of it and hold it." Like we're just strong enough guys to stop this van from coming down the mountain. And who was that?
And, uh, me, and, the, two, dudes, from, the shoot and Dom's in the driver's seat trying to get it together, make sure he stops it. And then we're all this will work. We're strong enough. And then immediately after Dom comes off the or goes into the break, you see him stand up out of the seat, like full body weight on the brake, and it was just almost us three dudes inside the storage unit, destroyed by the van.
And, I, learned, a, valuable, lesson, on, like maybe speak up sometimes. So, you, guys, almost, got, killed, by, vans that can't even start.
Yes,, we, Yes, that, would, be, a, HELL, OF, A, WAY, TO, GO, OUT. BAD., YEAH., So, next, got, hit, by, a, car., Oh man, it must be going fast. No, it actually doesn't even start.
Doesn't, run. So, I think I'm going to start speaking up just in those kind of situations.
Yeah,, you, got, it., You, got, to, speak, up more Zach. We, were, going, with, the, flow, too, much, and it almost ended in catastrophe.
Yeah., Got, to, speak, up, more,, Zach., Also, you did a good job this week. You woke up at the right time every single day.
That, Okay,, that, was, a, tough, one., Uh, we we got a new we got a new alarm app.
Oh,, TJ, put, you, onto, it. He, put, me, on, to, alarm, app, subscription base, but I mean these things some things are worth it.
Okay., Why, do, you, subscribe, to, an, alarm? I uh I subscribe to Alarm because uh I had I I had a wake up issue the other day.
Yeah. I, was, on, yesterday's, time, this, the, next day. What, could, a, I, guess, this, is, we're, just going to promote it. What could a subscription possibly offer?
A, louder, alarms. You, have, to, do You, have, the, ball, to, do, math, problem, for it to go off
to, turn, it, off. Yeah., What, if, you're, bad, at, math? I, am, bad, at, math,, but, I
So, you, have, to, start, every, day, off, with a math problem. Yeah., Yes,, you, start, off, with, a, map
because, the, yesterday, or, two, days, ago, Zach's problem was not that the alarm didn't go off. The alarm went off. He just set it too early and then he went back to sleep.
It, was, on, the, yesterday, alarm, and, I, got caught in this halfleep, not sleep void
and, I, let, the, sleep, void, win. Right., So, now, you're, going to, have, to, do a math problem to get out of the sleep.
Several, math, problems,, but, I What, are, the, math, problems? I, I, think, TJ, was, showing, me, it's, like basic math, but unfortunately I did fall asleep outside my phone off the charger. So I I didn't get to do the math problems till I cut it back on this morning. And luckily the backup backup alarm still went off.
Okay, that's, what's, the, backup, backup, alarm. I, got, I, got, the, I, got, the, bomb, and, then I got the Alexa and then my phone.
That's, the, worst, way, to, wake, up, though, to do a math problem. Open, mind., I'd, be, like,, am, I, in, hell?
Yes., But, nothing's, still, better, than, not waking up. Yeah, we, we'll, we'll, take, hell, over, shame, and and and anything that could come with not waking up all day.
Yeah. All right., Good, Firefest, you, guys,, too. Good, show,, boys., Week, 15., Enjoy, it., Make sure you enjoy it. Savor it. Coming down.
Army, Navy. Army, Navy, over. Personal, personal, challenge, every, like Villainova over Tarleton State.
We're, talking, about, this, game, too, much. FCS. Yeah,, we're, too, much., Wrap, it, up.
Come, on., Come, on. Wrap, it, up., Wrap., Max. FCS. Nobody, cares. Big, Villainova, football, guy.
Number, three. Good, job,, memes. I'm, rooting, for, Shane, here. Good, job,, memes. Why are you running?
He, just, needs, a, win. Why?, What, happened? He, just, needs, a, win. What? Max, been, bullying, him, all, week, cuz, Max lost.
Has, he, been, bullying, you,, Shane? You've, been, bullying, me. Shane,, has, he, been, bullying, you?
Shane, is, Matt, memes. Everyone's, been, bullying. Let, me, take, 15. I'll, take, 57.
Eight. 44., 19. 23., Oh, 23. What', you, have,, Hank? 22. Oh,, man. Oh,, well,, you, didn't, get, it.
One, more., One, more., One, more., One, more. One more. The, same, number. Getting, really, close, to, it,, man., Seems
Oh,, Shane, almost, got, it., He, was, thinking of the number. You, got, this,, Shane.
Come, on,, Shane., Everyone's, got, the, same number. Say it again. 57 19 100, 44
15 8 93, 93 So, many, threes, have, been so, many, threes, but, not, the, three, you need memes
39, guesses, away, man, you're, never, going to get it if somebody, had, won, then, we, should, get, a picture taken of them and then Shane could you make a thumbnail of that
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PFT Commenter (Host), Big Cat (Host), Hank Lockwood (Host), Max Dolente (Host), Zach (Host), Dan Orlovsky (Guest), TJ (Guest), Shane ("Matt Memes") (Guest).
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