Fitness Secrets of The Ultra Wealthy - Ted Ryce

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: fasting glucose, DEXA scan, calcium score, hemoglobin A1C
2. 10:00 – 20:00: metabolic dysfunction, CT angiogram, glycolysis, Lipoprotein(a)
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Ben & Jerry's, DEXA scan, Fitbit, Garmin
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Garmin, Dream Body Clinic, Ben & Jerry's, Colombia
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Fitbit, Brazil, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Dream Body Clinic
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: sauerkraut
7. 1:00:00 – 1:08:04: creatine, glycine, magnesium glycinate, Hypothalamus

Notable quotes from "Fitness Secrets of The Ultra Wealthy - Ted Ryce"

• Proves that's missing the real transformation happening behind closed doors. After training icons like Richard Branson, Ricky Martin, and Robert Downey Jr., Ted cracked the code on what actually works. The show starts now.

  about Richard Branson · at 0:09

• With me, but he has a history of heart disease in his family. Doesn't know his calcium score, which we can talk about what that is. Hasn't had a CT angiogram.

  about calcium score · at 1:39

• Yeah. Well, you get a you don't get a DEXA scan at your doctor's. The doctor of the future, it will definitely be doing like a body fat assessment because a DEXA scan will give you not just your body fat percentage and your muscle.

  about DEXA scan · at 4:51

• Because I have clients, they're Well, I just did blood work. I'm Yeah, you have your fasting glucose.

  about fasting glucose · at 6:11

• Not be that high. In fact, that's the thing that we're kind of dealing with right now is metabolic dysfunction.

  about metabolic dysfunction · at 9:06

• Like I barely eat. I barely eat. It's yeah, but that half a pint of Ben & Jerry's was 800 calories, right? So, or that Starbucks, even worse, the Starbucks drink, right? You got the venti frappa, whatever. I don't.

  about Ben & Jerry's · at 26:51

• Training. I would start with steps. Most of us have a smartwatch, an aura ring, right? A Garmin, whatever.

  about Garmin · at 28:57

• Well, for in my case, I went and got stem cell injections down in Puerto Verta, Mexico at a place called Dream Body Clinic. I don't have any affiliation with him or anything…

  about Dream Body Clinic · at 36:59

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Richard Branson — Person · 2 mentions · first at 0:13
• Ricky Martin — Person · 2 mentions · first at 0:15
  Transformation happening behind closed doors. After training icons like Richard Branson, Ricky Martin, and Robert Downey Jr., Ted cracked the code on what actually works. The show starts now.
• Ted Rice — Person · 1 mention · first at 0:07
  What you can prove. Everyone thinks celebrity trainers just count reps and yell louder. Today's guest, Ted Rice, proves that's missing the real transformation happening behind…
• Tony Horton — Person · 1 mention · first at 19:08
  People will never have access to because most people are going to go buy P90X and no offense to Tony Horton. Hi Tony. you know it's a great program if that's where you are. God…
• Josh (Dream Body Clinic CEO) — Person · 1 mention
• Pete Sampras — Person · 1 mention

Books & papers

• Outlive — Book · 1 mention · first at 1:05:36
  Peter Aia, great another person of who's great medical doctor, wrote the book outlive, he talks about the centinarian Olympics. So, I think thinking of what you're going to do…

Companies & orgs

• Dream Body Clinic — Company · 3 mentions · first at 37:04
• Crumbl Cookies — Company · 1 mention
• Legendary Life Podcast — Company · 1 mention
• legendarylifepodcast.com/free — Company · 1 mention
• Quest Diagnostics — Company · 1 mention
• Thorne — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

• DEXA scan — Product · 4 mentions · first at 4:54
• Garmin — Product · 4 mentions · first at 29:06
• Fitbit — Product · 4 mentions · first at 29:09
  You can get a Whoop or get a Fitbit if you want to wear your Rolex and you know or tactfully, however you roll. Like get your Fitbit.
• Ben & Jerry's — Product · 3 mentions · first at 26:56
• CT angiogram — Product · 2 mentions · first at 1:47
  Disease in his family. Doesn't know his calcium score, which we can talk about what that is. Hasn't had a CT angiogram.
• InBody — Product · 2 mentions · first at 5:46
  Successful clients are, you can also find a what do you call it? A in inbody. It's called an inbody. It uses bio impedance. I don't like that. But okay, if you're in a bind and you can't find a dexa scan, then you can do that.
• magnesium glycinate — Product · 2 mentions · first at 1:01:16
  Yeah, sure. So, a lot of us were not sleeping so great. So, what I would do magnesium glycinate or bislycinate, it's the same thing. it's it's magnesium paired with the amino acid glycine. magnesium helps a ton of different things. improves.
• glycine — Product · 2 mentions · first at 1:01:26
  It's the same thing. it's it's magnesium paired with the amino acid glycine. magnesium helps a ton of different things. improves sleep and also glycine improves sleep as well.…
• creatine — Product · 2 mentions · first at 1:02:17
  Had issues with blood pressure, torine, I think everybody should be taking creatine unless you have some sort of bad issue with your kidneys. Mitch, if you don't know if you have bad issues with your kidneys or not, then you don't have them.
• Wall-E — Product · 1 mention · first at 35:45
  Not supposed to. It's a fuel source. So, having a reality check cuz we are very spoiled. It's There's a movie Wall-E. I don't know if you ever saw Wall-E.
• sauerkraut — Product · 1 mention · first at 58:42
  I started eating anything fermented because I have a real tough time with that, I've been eating sauerkraut.
• bakalhau — Product · 1 mention
• berberine — Product · 1 mention
• Fibramen by Thorne — Product · 1 mention
• GLP-1 drugs — Product · 1 mention
• magnesium bisglycinate — Product · 1 mention
• MyFitnessPal — Product · 1 mention
• NAD IV — Product · 1 mention
• P90X — Product · 1 mention
• PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma) — Product · 1 mention
• psyllium husk — Product · 1 mention
• taurine — Product · 1 mention
• testosterone cypionate — Product · 1 mention
• testosterone enanthate — Product · 1 mention
• Whoop — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

• fasting glucose — Concept · 4 mentions · first at 6:16
• metabolic dysfunction — Concept · 3 mentions · first at 9:10
• calcium score — Concept · 2 mentions · first at 1:45
• hemoglobin A1C — Concept · 2 mentions · first at 7:31
  Then we ran and this is a super basic one. Hemoglobin A1C. So fasting glucose is what you walked in had your blood taken. What is your fasting glucose at that moment when you had your blood taken,.
• C-peptide — Concept · 1 mention · first at 9:13
  So, you need to have that. We also run C peptide and fasting insulin in the panel that we run for our clients and also you got to get a full lipid panel as well. And one thing.
• fasting insulin — Concept · 1 mention · first at 9:17
  So, you need to have that. We also run C peptide and fasting insulin in the panel that we run for our clients and also you got to get a full lipid panel as well. And one thing that doctors don't test for or two.
• lipid panel — Concept · 1 mention · first at 9:24
  Panel that we run for our clients and also you got to get a full lipid panel as well. And one thing that doctors don't test for or two things protein B. So most doctors they'll get your total cholesterol your HDL.
• Lipoprotein(a) — Concept · 1 mention · first at 10:01
  Like oh this is the marker we need to know for heart disease and something called LP little A or lipoprotein A and it's it'll be a li a little A. For example, I had a client his was 300.
• glycolysis — Concept · 1 mention · first at 13:42
  Away from using oxygen for energy and you start burning sugar. It's called glycolysis.
• metabolic reset sequence — Concept · 1 mention · first at 20:23
  It's a four-phase system. I call it, I slapped on like a cool sounding name, the metabolic reset sequence, right? But what it is in phase one, what I do is I do put people…
• phase one rapid fat loss diet — Concept · 1 mention · first at 20:38
  Through a strict something that I came up with. It's I just called it the phase one rapid fat loss diet, for lack of diets really don't exist.
• Mediterranean diet — Concept · 1 mention · first at 25:16
  1% but anyway so it should make you go down the it to answer your question the Mediterranean diet has the most research on it showing that it's you know healthy for you but I…
• Cooper test — Concept · 1 mention · first at 32:18
  Of testing, right? And the Garmin, I think, does it for you, but you can do a Cooper test or the Rockport walk test. So, so these wearables will have something that you can do.…
• Rockport walk test — Concept · 1 mention · first at 32:18
  Of testing, right? And the Garmin, I think, does it for you, but you can do a Cooper test or the Rockport walk test. So, so these wearables will have something that you can do.…
• Norwegian 4x4 protocol — Concept · 1 mention · first at 34:09
  Best, right? So there's research on different protocols. For example, one that's really popular is the Norwegian 4x4 protocol. So, it's 4 minutes of HIT training with 3 minutes of rest repeated four times.
• Brazilian jiu-jitsu — Concept · 1 mention · first at 42:33
  Did a lot of crazy stuff, and had a lot of injuries. been in a few car accidents. Also, Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
• Hypothalamus — Concept · 1 mention · first at 1:00:26
  Breakthrough ever, right? And all they do is they affect a part of your brain, the hypothalamus, and you're just less hungry, so you eat less. And that kind of causes other…
• Apolipoprotein B — Concept · 1 mention
• bioimpedance — Concept · 1 mention
• Centenarian Olympics — Concept · 1 mention
• high-intensity interval training (HIIT) — Concept · 1 mention
• paleo diet — Concept · 1 mention
• TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) — Concept · 1 mention
• VO2 max — Concept · 1 mention
• Zone 2 Training — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

• Portugal — Place · 2 mentions · first at 25:25
  Research on it showing that it's you know healthy for you but I lived in Portugal which is considered Mediterranean and they again olive oil is one of those things that has…
• Miami Beach — Place · 1 mention · first at 0:54
  Being a personal trainer to people like Richard Branson, Ricky Martin, Robert Downey Jr. in Miami Beach. But what I do now is I'm a health coach essentially.
• Lisbon — Place · 1 mention · first at 25:40
  You and has all this research on how it's great. But if you ever been to Lisbon and had the bakala, they pour olive oil all over it. And that's an example why I tell clients…
• Mexico — Place · 1 mention · first at 37:04
  Well, for in my case, I went and got stem cell injections down in Puerto Verta, Mexico at a place called Dream Body Clinic. I don't have any affiliation with him or anything…
• Colombia — Place · 1 mention · first at 37:18
  That. The reason I mentioned the clinic though by name because I had a client who went to a place in Colombia and then didn't have a good experience there.
• Panama — Place · 1 mention · first at 37:57
  It really depends on the place. Like there's the place in Panama where you know all the celebrities go. It's quite expensive. I don't even remember cuz I wasn't interested in going there. I ended up going to Josh because I had a.
• Ukraine — Place · 1 mention · first at 38:18
  Guy very honestly he's like well look I checked a few places. There was one I think it was in Ukraine. This is before the war started right? But he's like I felt kind of the…
• Brazil — Place · 1 mention · first at 42:37
  Actually, just got my black belt a few weeks ago here in Brazil.
• Puerto Vallarta — Place · 1 mention

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Welcome to the Proven Podcast, where it does not matter what you think, only what you can prove. Everyone thinks celebrity trainers just count reps and yell louder. Today's guest, Ted Rice, proves that's missing the real transformation happening behind closed doors. After training icons like Richard Branson, Ricky Martin, and Robert Downey Jr., Ted cracked the code on what actually works. The show starts now.

0:22 All right, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Ted, I'm really excited to have you on here.

0:26 Yeah, man. Really looking forward to it. Let's drop some bombs, some knowledge bombs. I said,

0:30 "Let's we're going to change some stuff on our when we did our first conversation, I said a bunch of stuff." And you're like, "Nope, completely wrong." I was like, "Son of a So, before we get into all of that, um, for the people who the rare people who don't know you, give us a little bit of feedback. Who are you? Where you from? What have you done?"

0:46 Yeah. Well, a lot of people know me from being a personal trainer to people like Richard Branson, Ricky Martin, Robert Downey Jr. in Miami Beach. But what I do now is I'm a health coach essentially. So I I built on what I learned in personal training, have a podcast where I've done over 500 interviews with people in the health uh industry. Learned a lot of things. Also got checked on what I thought I knew as well. And uh right now what I do is I I help entrepreneurs and executives transform their bodies. So, but what I really do is I help them get to that next level in health because and we can I I really want to get into this. I just had a conversation with a client right now and he's lost 20 pounds with me, but he has a history of heart disease in his family. Doesn't know his calcium score, which we can talk about what that is. Hasn't had a CT angiogram.

1:49 And it's like so many successful people, they're they just want to lose some weight and don't realize like, look, man, you you need to be ready for who you want to be and what type of life you want to live when you're 80. So that's what I hope people do,

2:02 right? Because there's this whole conversation about we want to live longer versus quality of life. And those are two very different conversations. There's when we first started having this conversation with you and I, you're like, there's some tests you need to take. you know, if you're just looking at the scale and that's the only number you're going by, that's just combat ineffective. There are other tests that you really need to break down. So, for those people who don't know, what are the tests that you want you normally have your clients go out and and the people at the level you play at, we're like, "Okay, you need to do these. Let's get this baseline first." Yeah, 100%.

2:33 And I would just preface this by like health isn't what you say you're doing. Because when I talk to people, they're like, "No, well, I'm doing the NAD uh IV Great. Oh, I eat pretty healthy. I I I lift weights. I'm benching 225 per rep. I don't care what you're doing. I want to know what's your body fat. I want to know how much muscle mass do you have. How do you find that out? You You do a Dexis scan. I don't I want to know what your V2 max is. How do you do that? There's a couple ways, but going to a lab with an exercise physiologist and having it measured, that's how you do it. I want to know what your blood work says because maybe your diet isn't if you have a belly, you're not doing things right with your diet. I don't care what diet you're following or who said what or what talking head on Tik Tok, Instagram or X, you're not doing you're not doing a good job. Okay. And then um so so that's what

3:33 we start with. But if like in my uh I just had a conversation with a client and I was like, "So you have a history of heart disease. Your dad had a bypass surgery in his 60s and you just don't even know your calcium score yet. Like you're in your 40s. Wake up. I was a little bit gent gentler than that because I always read the person and this is something we can get into. But if you put too much pressure on a person, they crumble. They don't take action or they get mad, right? And like, okay, I'm not doing any of that now just cuz you kind of pissed me off. So, I always but but since you know you and I are here, Charles, we can

4:12 Yeah, we get to take the filters off. Yeah. Yeah. We'll take the filter off and get direct toward because so if someone's sitting down and the only thing they've ever looked at is their scale and they're like okay well I I think I look kind of healthy or hey I I went and I listen to some influencer and I found out that eating my pillows was the best idea or eating just you know raw liver was the or whatever their goofy ass thing is when they go how much of the the baseline test like you need these no matter what. get your DEXA score, get your scan, get your V2 max, get, you know, what are the blood work things when they go in because most people when we go see the doctors and we go to Quest or whoever else it is, they don't even know what to ask for. So, what are the things they need to ask for?

4:51 Yeah. Well, you get a you don't get a DEXA scan at your doctor's. The doctor of the future, it will definitely be doing like a body fat assessment because a DEXA scan will give you not just your your body fat percentage and your muscle mass, it'll also give you your visceral fat. Not all of them do. So, you have to ask for that. And that's why I bring it up because that's you really want to know that. Especially the more inactive you are, the more likely that you're going to have higher visceral fat even if you're skinny, right? Like the skinny fat. So, you want a DEXA scan. You have to search for that. Like in our coaching program, that's part of what we do. We do like health concierge. be fine and give you some options. If you're in a smaller town, which some of my successful clients are, you can also find a what do you call it? A uh in inbody. It's called an inbody. It uses uh bio impedance. I don't like that. But

5:53 okay, if you're in a bind and you can't find a dexa scan, then then you can do that. But you really want a dexa scan. So then the V2 max you you'd find the same way. You just Google your city and V2 max test. But when it comes to blood work, it gets a little more complicated because I have clients, they're like, "Well, I just did blood work." I'm like, "Yeah, you have your fasting glucose." Oh, I'm going to give you an example to make this more real. I had a client. He gave me his blood work. I'm like, "Yeah, we need to do your blood work."

6:28 And he's like, "No, but I already have it." And you know the doctor said I was okay. And look, I want to be really clear, Charles. I don't pretend to be doctor. Okay? I don't have a medical degree. However, what I do is ask for what I think is basic stuff. So, he had a history of diabetes. His mom was diabetic.

6:50 He had slightly elevated fasting glucose. So, was he fully fasted? That can mess it up. So, it's not his doctor was like, "Ah, this dude probably like, you know, still ate a little bit and and didn't fast long enough, right?"

7:08 I don't know what the doctor thought, but he didn't think it was a big deal. I was like, "Man, that's that's kind of an issue because we've been working together and you've lost some weight and it's still fasting glucose above 99 is considered not normal. It's outside the range. It's high." Again, that's not me saying that. That's just typical. Like you can Google that and find that.

7:28 Right? Then we ran and this is a super basic one. Hemoglobin A1C. So fasting glucose is what you walked in had your blood taken. What is your fasting glucose at that moment when you had your blood taken,

7:42 right? We want to know that. And we want to know your hemoglobin A1C, which is again, it's a basic test. A lot of doctors run it, some don't. In this case, he didn't, right? And this is an entrepreneur. He's running multi-million dollar business. So anyway, the uh hemoglobin A1C is a a measurement of elevated blood sugar over a longer period of time. Let's say a few months depending on your red blood cells, you know, how long your red blood cells last, let's say, um because your red blood cells, they die off in a few months and create more, etc. So it was pre-diabetic.

8:23 is given in percentages. He was it 5.7 to I think 6.5 is the pre-diabetic range. 5.7% to 6.5% if I remember correctly. His was like 6.3. Jesus. And it's like he's if you have if you have and again this is not me saying this isn't controversial what I'm saying right now. This is just basic like like you know you turn on a light switch, lights come on type of stuff, right? Not controversial. If you have elevated blood sugar to the point where you're pre-diabetic, it's damaging you, right? You should not have that much blood. You shouldn't have your blood sugar should not be that high. In fact, that's the thing that we're kind of dealing with right now is is metabolic dysfunction.

9:13 So, you need to have that. We also run C peptide and fasting insulin in in the panel that we run for our clients and and also you got to get a um a full lipid panel as well. And one thing

9:27 that doctors don't test for or two things protein B. So most doctors they'll get your total cholesterol your HDL cholesterol your LDL cholesterol. We know now through research that apple lipoprotein B is like that thing. It's it's what LDL cholesterol like it'll probably replace LDL cholesterol or may replace LDL cholesterol in the future as like oh this is the marker we need to know for heart disease and something called LP little A or lipoprotein A and it's it'll be a li a little A. For example, I had a client his was 300.

10:12 What does that mean? Well, it's a genetic risk factor. So, heart disease is what's going to kill most of us. And we can talk about what we can do about that. However, some people have a much higher risk and some people get heart disease uh a lot earlier in life. And like like I had a CT I had a test on my heart a full workup including a CT angiogram where they inject you with contrast and take a picture of your heart. I don't have any heart disease right despite some of my bad behavior in my teens my 20s but some people they develop earlier. And so going back to the lipid protein little a it's an independent risk factor for heart disease. So let's say that your cholesterol is perfect.

10:57 it's always been perfect. If you still have that, you still have a higher risk of heart disease,

11:03 right? And some people, a lot of people have both elevated. So, and doctors won't test for it. It's also genetic in nature. Uh people who are South Asian um and a like of African descent uh have a higher uh chance of having it elevated. So, if someone comes in and you know your client, you first mentioned someone's got pre-diabetes or diabetes or or whatever it is and their their A1C is high and they're not being tested for it or the doctor just ignores it because they don't think they fasted well enough. When someone comes in, let's just stay with that client because that that's I think that's tangible and I think a lot of people can relate to that. if they're in a situation where they're like, "Hey, I'm I'm I'm getting close to pre-diabetes." And once you cut over, once you go from pre-diabetes to diabetes, it's it's it's it just you can't it's not a reversible thing in that sense because they're always like,

11:51 "Oh, well, you're diabetic, but you're in remission or whatever they say on it." If someone's like, "Oh crap, I just found out that my A1C is 6.3 or 6.2 or whatever it is in that situation." And they're terrified. Now, what are the things the the tangible things to do? Because a lot of people will go, "Well, I'm just going to go straight carnivore. I'm going to get rid of carbs. I'm going to get rid of sugar. I'm going to get rid of this. I'm going to just I'm not going to eat anymore. I'm just going to drink water. They're going to do these unsustainable things. When your clients come into you, and I'm guessing most a lot of your clients are in the United States, so most of them are probably in that trajectory because I think everything including water at this point now has sugar on it. Yay, America. Um, what are some of the things where you sit down and say, "Okay, I've got the data. I've run the test. Your visceral

12:31 fat is your visceral fat is garbage. Your A1C is 62, 63. Holy Christ. What are we what do you what are the first kind of steps you walk through and say, "Okay, we're going to change this now. We're going to try and save your life." What are you What are the things you do?

12:44 Yeah. What I do specifically um like by the way, just to what you said, right, if you want to call diabetes reversible or not, or you know, what's the medical I have no idea. I don't even care, right? All I care is like how do we change? But uh but the way to solve it is to put it in remission or to, you know, get rid of it, whatever, is two things. One, you need to exercise and build muscle. Why? Well, your muscles are full. Well, let me put it like this. It's a It's kind of a sink or a storage unit for sugar because like if you've ever done any type of if you run sprints or or done like you know bicep curls or squats and your muscles are burning that burning sensation is when you shift over away from using oxygen for energy and you start burning sugar. It's called glycolysis.

13:44 And so you start burning the glycogen stored in your muscles. So you need intense exercise. Lifting weights and highintensity interval training. Lifting weights is the best though. Um

13:55 okay. So you want to lift weights. And the more muscle you have, the more insulin sensitive you're going to be. So So that's number one. And I say that before diet because it's really hard to [ __ ] change your diet for people.

14:14 Yeah, really hard. Um I've seen people do it when they get a bad diagnosis and they're like, "Okay, just tell me whatever." But but for a lot of people who are, you know, if you want to not get to that point, start lifting weights first because exercise is the number one thing you can do for your health, for longevity. It's not diet, it's exercise. That's what the data say. Even if you had the most perfect diet and you didn't do any exercise, you would not be healthy, right? So, you can't replace the training stimulus. You got to you got to do exercise. And for me, the foundation is muscle mass because of function because of how it helps with metabolic dysfunction or it's that, you know, a storage uh place for sugar.

14:59 And then after that, it's like, okay, time to lose the belly, right? because we know it's sugar doesn't cause diabetes. Okay? And again, this isn't it shouldn't probably controversial to say, Charles, but um this is one of those things where people just don't know what the [ __ ] they're talking about. And I'll tell you what I mean by that. Yes, if you're diabetic, if you're or even pre-diabetic, if you have sugar, it will cause high it's it you cannot you're already not processing sugar well. It's going to cause problems for you, right? Because that high blood sugar, it'll circulate in your body.

15:44 It'll destroy tissue. We know that um you know beyond cholesterol it's even worse to be like have have uh you know metabolic dysfunction, diabetes etc. So yeah sugar is like pouring gasoline on the fire but it didn't start the fire. That's a that's how you want to think about it. If you have a dis metabolic dysfunction, sugar is like pouring gasoline on the fire, but it didn't start the fire. What started the fire? Well, two things. you sitting on your ass and not doing enough exercise. That's part of it. Um and putting on too much body fat because number one, what doctors will do if you don't want to go down the treatment route of like, okay, well, this is your new diabetes life.

16:29 You got to inject yourself and do all the things that they check your blood sugar all the time. And right, if you wanted to reverse it, what do you do? What they put you on? They put you on a 500 calorie uh uh uh liquid diet so that you lose fat fast, right?

16:45 Got and uh really interesting even when they do the these 500 uh calorie like liquid diets to reverse diabetes or at least in this one paper I read your blood sugar comes down quite quick even before you start losing a lot of the fat. It's just and this can get into, you know, the important point here. It's like if you're eating enough to where you have a belly and you you can't see the outline of your abs at all or or if you have your body fat test, if you're 20% or above, it's like you're eating too much. I don't care what it is. Even if carnivore, go look at some of the carnivore uh uh Facebook groups. I I screenshot stories from there all the time because I've I have one screenshot where a guy lost like 20 pounds or maybe it was 30, I don't even remember. Uh on keto and he was like, "Man, I know how to take this to the next level. I'll go carnivore, right? Just get rid of all vegetables and just eat meat." And he

17:49 gained like he gained some of the weight back, a significant amount, like 15 or 20 pounds. How did that happen? If you go more extreme, really [ __ ] simple. You ate too much.

18:00 Yeah. And and ribeye a 16 ounce ribeye steak has like 1,500 calories in it. And then if you're carnivore crazy and you cooked it in a a stick of butter, I have no idea actually how much a stick of butter has in terms of calories, but it's a lot.

18:16 You can't get around that math, right? So if if we know that you got to add muscle mass, you got to do hit training because it sounds like those are the two that you really really enjoy as far as your exercise. You know, anything that's going to build muscle mass. So, lift heavy-ish. Um, and then obviously this isn't medical, you know, advice. We're just talking about stuff. So, consult your doctor. Uh, so if they're going to lift heavy and they're going to do hit training, now we're going to talk about diet.

18:43 And there's a lot of people, you know, just to stay because this makes sense for congruity here. Can

18:47 if someone's pre-diabetic, what is the diet that you recommend? What is the diet you've seen the best results with for your clients? Because obviously you you've been hired by clients who can afford anybody and they've chosen to work with you and these are you know these are entrepreneurs in our world. These are entrepreneurs who are in that decision world. These are people who are making the type of money that most people will never have access to because most people are going to go buy P90X and no offense to Tony Horton. Hi Tony. Uh you know it's a great program if that's where you are. God bless it. But for the people who have already had a certain level of success, we want a certain level of result. It just it is what it is.

19:19 So when they come to you and they're like hey what diet should I eat? What are the things that you've seen that have produced and again and everyone's body's different. I get that you want to do your test. This is broad information. You really want to work with someone one-on-one. I'm not taking that away. What I'm saying is what is the diet that you've seen? Is there a specific one that you're like, "Yep, that's the best one so far that converts the best. This gets rid of your visceral fat faster than anything else." What are the ones that you're seeing?

19:42 Yeah. And as far as like getting rid of visceral fat faster than anything else, they all work provided that they're I'll answer your question directly in a second, but I I just want people to understand like it it's just about getting into a calorie deficit. However, that's kind of like saying, hey, do you want to pay like I'm I'm going to probably date myself, but do you want to play tennis like Pete Sampas? Well, he does a forehand, he does a backhand, he serves. It's like, well, there's a big difference between your amateur guy at the the tennis club and and top tier talent. So, there's different like what I do. I have a system that I created.

20:19 It's a four-phase system. I call it, you know, I slapped on like a a cool sounding name, the the metabolic reset sequence, right? But what it is is in in phase one, what I do is I do put people through a strict um something that I came up with. It's I just called it the phase one rapid fat loss diet, you know, for lack of diets really don't exist. They're just a way for people to, you know, to like wrap their heads around it, but it's like kind of like the matrix sort of thing, right? You know, so anyway, um but it's it's what my clients follow. they lose 4 to six pounds in a twoe time frame. And here's the thing, that's not that impressive cuz there's a ton of different approaches that could do that. But what's different about the phase one rapid fat loss system that I developed is that it helps cuz most people their issue is I'm hungry. How much longer do I have to do this for? I'm really

21:18 hungry. But what we do it keeps the calories low. It keeps uh hunger satiated. We also use supplements to help as well um with satiation and just mood and and that type of thing. And so people lose four to six pounds. Some of that just in full transparency, it's going to be water.

21:36 Um it is on the lower carb side for sure. And uh not necessarily because it's like the carbs are so evil or whatever. It's just more simple to follow. And so so that's what I use and people people get rapid results.

21:54 So and then when they get into the you know as far as diets is there some things we always hear you know don't eat don't eat ice cream you know some supplements are like you know why are you drinking your protein don't drink your protein you know you should go more Mediterranean or or things of that nature. As you're going through those have you seen ones because there's going to be some people come across this that this is all they can afford right they're going to hear the podcast. this is about the much they can get. So I'm trying to give them as much value of what is proven as possible. So because there are other people because again in and no offense to anyone the people were radically successful just like all right we're done listening the podcast I'm just going to call them at those point those people have already logged off and they're already calling for everybody else who's like okay let me give me some

22:36 more stuff here give me some stuff that's actually proven in the diet is it more Mediterranean based you and I off camera poo pooed on a couple other diets I'm not going to poop on them recording I am not the dietitian I'm not certified on this but there are certain diets Um, variety is good. It's like a rainbow, people. I'm just saying Skittles don't count. But going in that situation, is there certain diets you're like, listen, this is what it looks like. You really want to stick Mediterranean or pescatarian or other ones. These are ones that you have found that say, "Hey, these work."

23:08 Yeah. Now, now look, it's a really great question and it's important, but I want everyone to understand this. It's like the diets are like um what we really want to do is it it none of the diets work if you're eating too many calories and nutrition and and look I like it took me a long time to to really understand this because I believed a lot of things that weren't true but now we get these great results. Anyway, just to answer your question, I just want to say I'll answer it more directly again, but I just want to tell you like you should if you have a belly, whatever you do, your belly should start to go away. The weight should start to come down or if you followed the advice like you went and got your DEXA scan or you know you were put into if you're in a place where you couldn't find one that um InBody test, you'll see the body fat go down. That is what a good diet is.

24:10 Now, what are some name brand diets that are popular that you can follow? They all work provided that they follow that framework. I I can't stand the keto diet. I used to be low carb for 10 years. Thankfully, I got away from that before keto really got popular. So, I never jumped on the keto bandwagon. But my personal feelings aside, if it's calorie, if it if the calories are in check, for example, if someone's listening to this and they're like, "Oh, I hate the sugar. I don't believe you." Okay, cool. Follow the freaking diet. As long as the calories are in check, and make sure you track them, by the way. If if you're uh if you're not seeing results, as long as you're losing weight, that's what matters. Because if you have a belly, you have visceral fat most likely.

25:02 Everybody in the states is underex exercised and undermuscled for the most part except for that you know except for like that 1% probably even a fraction of 1% but anyway so it should make you go down the it to to answer your question the Mediterranean diet has the most research on it showing that it's you know healthy for you but I lived in Portugal which is considered Mediterranean and they um again olive oil is one of those things that has been studied and it's objectively healthy for you and has all this research on how it's great. But if you ever been to Lisbon and had the bakala, uh they pour olive oil all over it. And that's an example why I tell clients like you can't like it's okay to have some framework and go and do it. You want to do keto, do keto. You want to do paleo, cool. You want to do Mediterranean, cool. Mediterranean is the most um most uh research again backing it up, but you can't just not

26:06 think. You have to use your brain. That's why people are having so much trouble with this stuff. And we have our clients we have our clients track their calories using My Fitness Pal. It's like that's that'll do more for you. tracking your tracking your calories with My Fitness Pal will do more for you than reading an entire book on nutrition or, you know, more specifically fat loss because nutrition is a huge a huge uh, you know, huge area. But if we're talking about fat loss, you don't need to do it. just freaking track what you're eating just for a week and you're going to be blown away by some of the things cuz what we say or what people say like, "Oh, well, I'm pretty hungry.

26:51 Um, like I barely eat." Like, you know, I barely eat. It's like, yeah, but that half a pint of Ben & Jerry's was 800 calories,

27:02 right? So, or that Starbucks, even worse, the Starbucks drink, right? You got the venti frappa, whatever. I don't drink that stuff. I like cappuccinos. But if you're into them, read the calories. Some of those drinks, they're insane. Or, oh, I just had a cookie. Well, was it a crumble cookie? Cuz those things are like a,000 calories versus wild.

27:25 Yeah, exactly. You can have a 300 calorie cookie. So, you It's really hard to operate on on these simple frameworks that people love so well. And look, I'm I'm not stupid. If I'm gonna write a book, it'll be like a diet book because it sells so well. Then I'll squeeze all this other stuff in. It's what sells, but I'm telling you, if you want to get away from the nonsense and the marketing and the madness, this is what really works. Gotcha. So, we go through and you know, you get your scans, you figure out what's going on, you identify, hey, you got to get some calorie changes difference. You got to pay attention to it. Use you using My Fitness Pal, which is great. You're going to start heavy lifting. You're going to start doing some sort of hit training. That's that's the basic framework. Now, let's get into So, that's the basics. So, everybody's at home, there's your basics. Have fun.

28:12 I wish you nothing but the best. Now, let's get into some more of the advanced stuff. In our world, there's a lot of people who are talking about stem cells. There's a lot of people who are talking about testosterone or NAD or all these other different things that are more advanced things that we're learning about and we as a species are coming across. What are some of the things that, you know, either you recommend to your clients or you've seen your clients do that are like, hey, this is game changer. I went out, I ate a a half a pine of Ben & Jerry's and I grew wings and I flew to them. Whatever it is, don't eat that. Don't do it. It's not good for you. But what are the things that you have found that you're like, "Hey, this stuff I've really seen some amazing stuff." Hey, you know what? This is also I haven't seen amazing stuff, but what are the kind of the things that you have seen that are radically changed

28:49 the ball game? Yeah, great question. I just want to do one thing. We talked about the hit training. What I would recommend for people, I wouldn't start with HIT training. I would start with steps. Most of us have a smartwatch, an aura ring, right? A Garmin, whatever.

29:09 You can get a Whoop or get a Fitbit if you want to wear your Rolex and you know or tactfully, however you roll. Like get your uh get your uh um you know, Fitbit. Start tracking your steps. That's what I would do. I wouldn't just like Well, I did hit training because some dude on Charles podcast said so. Although you should do that. We can get into that because that's the game changer. We can talk about that with TRT in a second, but like that's what I would do. Track your steps. Most people, most Americans, let's say 5,000 and less. If you're, you know, that you are heading towards a health problem, if you are 5,000 steps or less, you can just

29:50 So, what should they be at? Should they be at 10? Should they be at 15? Right? 10's the magic number, right? that but it's there's there are is some research on it now but uh the story is kind of interesting it came from marketing uh from like some marketing campaign in Japan or something like that right so so what I would tell you is figure out what you can do and keep adding I think you'll have a problem getting beyond 10k is hard to to hit if you're not living in New York or or Rome home or someplace where it's just like, oh, you walk everywhere, right? So, you'll probably have trouble uh hitting that.

30:33 Find out what you can be consistent with and then always look to to ramp it up. But what I do personally is I make sure I hit around 7 to 8,000 steps per day and I do more intense cardio on the side, which if you're if you're doing hit training, um you can get away with less steps. But if you're not and which you shouldn't jump into, especially if you have injuries or don't know about the state of your heart health and you're in your 40s or 50s or 60s, you is start with walking first.

31:05 So, so yeah, if you're going to get into HIT training, since we come back to this, there's a lot of different ways and a lot of different flavors

31:11 sure hit training. Where are some of the resources that you have found saying, hey, you know what, these are these are good. This is like, you know, you talked about Fit Pal uh or the the tracker earlier.

31:21 Fit Fitbit. Yeah. No, not for the Fitbit. The the tracker for your calories. Oh, My Fitness Pal. Yeah.

31:27 My Fitness Pal. My Fitness Pal. Yeah. Are there things like that for HIT training as well?

31:32 Yeah. Um Garmin will So, we talked I I mentioned V2 max. If you if you were just like, "Ah, I'm too lazy. I don't care enough. Not motivated. I'm not going to go to a lab and get my V2 max done." Right. Okay. Get a Garmin or Aura ring. I use an Aura ring. My battery I was wearing it the other day. My battery like it's a brand new ring. Sometimes they have issues. I have to go get another one now. Anyway, um but it's I I love the Aura ring by the way. Uh that aside, like it it has something where you can do a a walk test and it will roughly estimate your your uh V2 max. So, you want to do some type of testing, right? And the Garmin, I think, does it for you, but you can do a Cooper test or uh the Rockport walk test. So, so these wearables will have something that you can do. You don't you don't also you could just do the Cooper uh the 12-minute run and see like it you would still have to track yourself to

32:36 see how far you went in 12 minutes, but then you could go online and figure it out. You could, you know, find the charts online and figure out your V2 max from there. Gotcha. So that's

32:46 for HIT training. What are some of the places you would go to? Like you were talking about Garmin has hit HIT. Maybe where are some of the resources that people can go to to say, "Hey, this is what my HIT program is." And then I do want to jump into the other stuff with the TRT and the all that other good stuff. So where can people go to get some resources other than obviously you where are the places they can go get some HIT training?

33:05 Um yeah. Well, it just to be just to be clear, that's how you would test your V2 max.

33:11 Okay. And that's what you want to know because the whole point of doing HIT training unless you're an athlete is to increase that number, that V2 max. Gotcha. So, so just to be clear, you want to get it tested because you want to know just like it's like going imagine going into the gym and lifting weights. You have no idea how much weight you're lifting or if you're lifting more than what you did before. That's kind of how people approach cardiovascular training. But when you have a number that's measurable, objective etc. Mhm.

33:40 Okay. Now you have something to build on it. But as far as like what type your question is, what type of hit training can you do to get

33:47 where we go to get good training? Like where's the programs for HIT training? Like because I mean most people have no idea.

33:53 Yeah, sure. Like this a tricky conversation, but I'll do my best. So we know that there's so there's there's two conversations here. There's what's the best, right? So there's research on different protocols. For example, one that's really popular is the Norwegian 4x4 protocol. So, it's 4 minutes of uh HIT training with 3 minutes of rest repeated four times.

34:23 Okay? If you've ever done that before, cuz when I first like, oh, this has the most research backing it up. Let's implement it with clients right away. Guess what? They [ __ ] hate it. I had a client tell me, he's like,

34:37 "Mhm, I think I'm okay dying, living a few less years if I got to keep up." Yeah.

34:44 I'd rather die than have to go do this again. Yeah, exactly. Can you believe that?

34:49 And if you do it right, that's kind of like how you should feel in a way. But so

34:54 you should want Yeah, absolutely. When I'm a triathlete, there's never a time when I'm on the run. There's never a time that I'm ever doing the run portion of a try. So, for those of you who don't know, you swim, bike, run. That's how it is. So, the swimming portion, you're basically blowing out your upper body. There's just no, it's shoulders, it's arms. You're just using your feet to keep your butt, you know, you're not using a lot of your legs at that point. You then get on the bike and your shoulders are already fried and you're trying to hold on to the bike and now you're blowing out your quads. It just, it is what it is. So, by the time you get to the run, you already want to die. It's horrible. There's never been a time I've ever done a try that in I'm in the middle of the run going, "This is great. I'm euphoric. I'm like, no, I want to die. This is It's horrible. It's not It's not supposed to like when you

35:38 take a diet and they're like, "Oh, well, this doesn't taste like ice cream." It's not supposed to. It's a fuel source. So, having a reality check cuz we are very spoiled. It's There's a movie Wall-E. I don't know if you ever saw Wall-E.

35:49 Yeah. And you see the people sitting around in their little mobile lazy boys and I'm like, "Oh my god, that's where we're going."

35:55 Some of the stuff has to hurt. In order to get progress, there's going to be suffering. I'm sorry. It just it is what it is. You got to get over yourselves. So going through these things, doing the Norwegian 4x4, you just got to do it. I'm sorry. Asparagus doesn't taste good all the time. You got to eat it instead of Ben & Jerry's. Just deal with it. Suck it up and do I spent eight years in a hospice watching people die. Trust me, it's worse than because people like, "Oh, you know, organic food or this type of way of eating is is so much more expensive." I'm like, "Yeah, it's cheaper than chemo. So shut up. Let's go. Let's have that real conversation."

36:25 So people, you know, they're going to do this. They're doing the Norwegian 4x4. There's a lot of people who are as they get successful, they have spent their youth and their time to make money and now they're going to use their money to try and get back some of their health, right? That just it's like, oh crap, how do we do this?

36:40 And a lot of people are looking at TRT. A lot of people are looking at stem cells and there's a lot of different back and forth about this. What are some of the things that you've seen that are proven like, "Oh, no. This changed my life." I remember we were talking about this uh not on this call. There was stuff you've done. They're like, "This this changed my life. There's just no way around it. This fundamentally changed who I am as a being." Yeah. Well, for in my case, I went and got stem cell injections down in um Puerto Verta, Mexico at a place called Dream Body Clinic. I don't have any um affiliation with him or anything like that. The reason I mentioned the clinic though by name because I had a client who went to a place in Colombia and then didn't have a good experience there.

37:25 Meaning they were nice to him. It was a Mhm. Right. But uh he didn't feel like he got a result. It might might have might be underdosed or improperly injected. So So anyway, so that's why I mentioned the clinic and um you know, I had Josh the CEO on my podcast, but I don't get anything financially from them and I'm going to go back and pay him money, so he should get

37:52 to do a stem cells run. What does it normally cost for someone? It really depends on the place. Like there's the place in Panama where um you know all the celebrities go. It's quite expensive. I don't even remember cuz I wasn't interested in going there. I ended up going to Josh because I I had a a mutual friend and entrepreneur and the guy very honestly he's like well look I I checked a few places. There was one I think it was in Ukraine. This is before the war started right? But he's like I felt kind of the best interaction there, you know, and this guy's not he's a he's an attorney that helps uh entrepreneurs like bank out. Anyway, so he doesn't know what he's talking about, but just sharing his experience, but he ended up going to to Josh's clinic, Dream Body Clinic, and um he had a good experience.

38:44 Again, for me, when someone tells me about their good experience and they're not in health and fitness and not someone I necessarily like view as an expert, I'm like, take that with a grain of salt. But

38:55 yeah, it's like people who want to become billionaires are reading books written by people who aren't billionaires. I'm like, what are you doing? If you want to become a billionaire, go read their book. If you want to become a triathlete, read the books written by triathletes. This isn't complicated. Read the ones of the people who have gotten there. Not not rocket science.

39:12 I am with you 100%. like you shouldn't hire me. Like, by the way, I think your your triathlon is super cool and and doing that stuff and your V2 max is is is probably quite high, but you wouldn't want to hire me to help you do a a triathlon. I could figure it out, right?

39:28 But I would hire you to fix my blood work, fix, say, there's these other things that's going on. How do I fix my fitness? How do I have an eye on it? Because if I went out cuz everyone's been trying to push me to get an aura ring for a really long time. And I don't like having things on there.

39:41 But the aura ring seems to be everyone I know who is playing at the level that you exist at, everyone's like, you got it's just going to ring. There's just no way around it. You got to get and I just don't like having things on my finger. So I actually have the the test kit where you have to test what and I've been walking around with a stupid plastic ring on just to get used to it. I'm like this is horrible. So but everyone's like, "Dude, it's a game changer. You just have to get it shut up and deal. Very much like asparagus. It seems like the Aura Ring is the best one to go with versus the Fitbit or anything else.

40:09 Yeah. Um I Fitbit's okay. I I like the Aura Ring. I haven't used the app, but I'm not com I'm sorry used Whoop, which is another thing if my clients really want to do it because I got some clients that are just like never going to wear a ring like they're divorced or, you know, just traumatized or whatever. Anyway, I'm like, "All right, man. Get a whoop." But but I I wouldn't personally uh waste money on it. Or is the best I don't like some of the changes they've made over time cuz I really feel like and we can even get into this if you want but I feel like longevity is is become such a business and so it's really hard. It's like we want people to cuz Aura I I'm grandfathered in. I I paid my subscription. and I don't have to pay monthly, but they've made it to a monthly subscription. And so to to keep it going, I get I'm just

41:01 I don't know. I I actually did know the CEO of Aura, but now it's a different person had a conversation. Anyway, but uh um because I really wanted to to make a like some type of I I really like the product so much I wanted to have them sponsor the show or something. ended up not happening. But um but yeah, um they've come out with more and more features and it's just making it like busy. So there's a few key things that are important on the Aura and like I don't pay any attention to the readiness score, for example.

41:35 Yeah. I because I have a Fitbit and I refuse to pay attention to the readiness score. They're like, "Congratulations, you slept well." I'm like, "I slept an hour and a half." They're like, "You're ready to take on the world." I'm like, "I'm going to put you in the toilet."

41:45 So all right. So out of the or ring now let's go back to you know you talk about stem cells.

41:49 Yeah. And you went out to this clinic. How did you said it you said it multiple times. It changed your life. How did it change your life? What was different about it? What what was the before and after?

41:57 So so my before was um you know I was a lot of people think I was in sports in in high school. I kind of was if you count weed smoking and skateboarding a sport.

42:09 Neither one of those are sports my friend. Yeah. Exactly. So, so and I was if you see like a lot of like the skateboarding where people kind of, you know, are amazing and doing crazy tricks. Well, that wasn't me. I was the one like on the

42:22 unless I had a controller in my hand, that wasn't me, right? Exactly. So, I I I racked a lot, did a lot of crazy stuff, and had a lot of injuries. Um, been in a few car accidents. Also, Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Actually, just got my black belt a few weeks ago here in Brazil.

42:39 Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Um, so a lot of injuries from competitions and stuff like that and um, it was affecting, for example, I wasn't doing barbell squats. I used to squat 290 lbs for reps. Now I don't didn't squat at all because I'm like, I could do it, but my knees hurt afterward. And eventually you're like, okay, I can play tough guy here, but I see how that's going to lead to having knee replacements and so on and so on and so on. So, I wasn't doing squats. I wasn't doing deadlifts because I had a herniated disc in my back. Um, and I got painfree. I didn't have surgery for any of this stuff. Um, but I wasn't able to get back and like train jiu-jitsu or lift, you know, do squats and deadlifts and I used to deadlift 350, right, for reps. And then now I'm you couldn't do it at all without having like a flare up and nerve pain down my leg. um had some other things too. So I'm like after like

43:43 oh man am I gonna do this? I went I went there had injections in my joints uh my neck shoulders hips, knees and with him by the way and again I sound like I'm turning this into a commercial for him instead of uh for my business but he has all the prices on his website. So you can if you go to Dream Body Clinic, it's got all the prices there. But um so anyway, I went there and I went just I I had a lot of shots, right? Tens of thousands of dollars worth of shots. I'm like, if I'm going to do this, I I really want to see like what can happen. And I'll be honest with you, Charles, I was like,

44:25 there's a good chance this [ __ ] ain't going to work, man. You know, it's like

44:30 I I don't believe I think a lot of stuff is placebo. I think people are just not like they're I think a lot of people are crazy and also this is a French thing to do, right? It's I it's a I don't know the you know this outside my wheelhouse but I like you can't get it done in the US but then I heard that some changes happen and you could I don't know what the state is but when I did it a year a year and change ago uh I went I went there and I was just like after I did it I had some regrets to be honest. I was like, did I do the right thing? What about long-term consequences? I started getting online looking at research and you know, there's some horror stories with stem cells. None of them are from joint injections, but there was a for example, there's one import shouldn't be talking about this, but and again, I'm I'm not an expert here. this. I'm just talking as a consumer um in in this

45:25 capacity right now, but like they've tried to put stem cells in a dude's spine in in Portugal with like a highlevel doctor who publishes research and then like 10 years later there's some there's it's not cancer, but there's a mass growing in his spine and there they don't know what to do about it. So, but that's very different than getting it injected into your joints. And also, they use stem cells. There's a bunch of different stem cells. Again, I'm not the expert here. Josh just wrote a book. Maybe you, you know, can reach out to Josh.

45:57 Yeah. So, you did stem cells that changed it. What about the other things? You know, people like, you know, here's TRT, here's TDD, here is ADC. You know, there's all these different acronyms that most of the gen doesn't know is going to change things. That's going to create radical results. And as you age, as males, your testosterone changes. So, there's this like I've got resistance to getting ejected with testosterone. changes.

46:22 So the the average the average American or the average person has, you know, statistically with science, we have a drop off with with with testosterone.

46:30 We kind of don't it's not that clear, right? Number one, we can test this because just have your levels done, right? Just have your levels done. My my levels are and we can talk about we can I love this conversation because it's so guys are so crazy. Number one, the whole TRT thing, it started with pharmaceutical companies when they started putting on ads. And again, that sounds I don't know, for some people, they're like, "Yeah, evil pharmaceutical companies." I don't love pharmaceutical companies. They do provide some value, so I don't hate them. And probably the biggest breakthroughs are going to come out of tech there. Like,

47:07 absolutely. Absolutely. It's not going to be like we're going to find the magic 4x4 V2 max routine. it's going to be with medical advances and gene editing and all this crazy stuff. So anyway, um it's that's who with all the low tea, that's when all the craziness started, right? And so when it comes to that, get your levels. Again, going back to what the first thing we started talking about, get your levels tested. However, we're in a situation and I deal with clients right now. I had a client I can think his uh level was 500 nanograms per deciliter which is like it's not low it's like middle normal and he didn't

47:48 when I asked him about sexual function there wasn't you know assuming he was being 100% honest uh he he didn't have any issues but the doctor he was seeing wanted to put him on TRT which it isn't TRT if you're not low low depending on because labs have different values with what the range is. Um low is like uh like 300 uh under 300 or 290 I've seen is low and then uh like high is 900 or a,000 right something like that. So so here's the thing

48:28 his doctor wanted to put him on TRT. The guy wasn't The guy was doing a little bit of lifting, was very sedentary, didn't have any issues. And it's just like, here's the thing with TRT, it's not just you put a needle in your butt and like it just magically makes you better. It shrinks your testicles because it shuts down production of your natural testosterone. Again, that's everyone knows that. All the medical uh professionals know that. Um, there's some concerns with like if you have heart disease. I I mentioned a client with heart disease. There's issues with uh potentially, you know, your lipid profile, you know, messing with your cholesterol. Again, I'm not a TRT expert. I don't take TRT and I'm not going to say I'll never do it, but I'll say like I ain't going to go there until I really feel like

49:24 So, your clients come to you and they have like kind of 500 and below on their TRT scales.

49:29 Yeah. What are the ways that because again, you've worked with some really impressive people. I'm sure they're like, "Hey, I want to

49:34 I'm sure none of your clients, let me be nice to them, have ever had any sexual dysfunction at any weight, whatever."

49:40 I'm sure they're perfect and they have sex like guys. I am sure they whatever. So, if they're coming to you like, "Hey, listen. That client you've never had comes in says, "I've got low TRT or I'm not having the sexual things or I'm not having the energy or da da da da da." What are the ways and what are the results that you've been able to get doing, you know, what protocols to kind of change that ball game?

49:59 Yeah. And I I want to Yeah, for sure. So, it comes back to what we said, lose the fat. The number one reason why we have like low tea, people talk about a lot, it's like the endocrine disrupting chemicals. H yeah, maybe um it's not good to have endocrine disrupting chemicals in the environment and certainly yeah it's a concern but is it a bigger issue than the big fat belly that is on the majority of American men and the answer is no you can't get around I've had guys come to me they were doing TRT still felt like [ __ ] still didn't didn't magically transform you cannot get around doing the work now if you're now Here's the thing, which is and and I don't listen to TRT influencers either. Uh here's what I mean by that. If I I'm not on TRT.

50:53 When you take testosterone, there's a lot of stuff people take and it's unclear whether doctors really know all the details and how to do it in a way to, you know, but like um when you if I go out and get trash, I have a few kipadinas, Brazilian cocktail or just get trash, my tea is going to go low and my tea fluctuates just like normal at like normal people fluctuates throughout the day, Right?

51:24 If I go a few days without sleeping well, my tea is going to be lower than if I had slept well. Right? If you take testosterone, it is not testosterone you're taking. You're taking testosterone siponate or testosterone ananthate. It is it doesn't matter what you do. Your levels are the same all the time. Doesn't matter. Like we know with in studies, guys who start lifting weights versus guys who started taking testosterone and sitting on the couch, the guys on the couch built more muscle. Now long term that probably, you know, you'd probably hit a ceiling and you know, the guys who would who were lifting would do better, but like short term, you know, you just it's it's a boost, but it comes at a cost, right?

52:13 And we're nobody's sure exactly. So you don't need to do it. And even if you want to, even if you're just like, you know what, I'm going to just do it. Okay, cool. But learn, again, I work with guys who are on TRT. It's not the game changer. What I said earlier is the game changer. Lift weights to build muscle. Get strong. Lose the belly. Get lean. 20% body fat at least. If you're if you're making money and you weren't over obese as a kid, and even if you were, you can get down to 20%. As like a

52:49 How frequently should someone be training? I mean, I we talked about daily, try to get your 7 to 10 steps in there. Uh marketing or not marketing, get on there, get or ring, get the My Fitness Pal app, get that going in. But when you're talking about lifting, I know I know it changes based on age and and if you've had previous injuries or all of that, but what are some of the things that hey, this is a program you should be working out x number of days, x time is have you found things that have created radical results for your people?

53:17 Yeah. And I want to say one more thing. The the real boost most men are are looking for, it's in improving your cardiovascular conditioning, getting your V2 max up. Because if you're not like you, Charles, where you're literally a a triathlete or me who does this training all the time,

53:38 it's it's horribly low, right? Horribly low. If you're the guy who lifts weights and thinks you I'm pretty good shape, lift the weights in the gym. It's like, yeah, great. But that's the beginning. If you want to feel like a stud in your 50s, 60s, right? the the doing implementing the type of training like hit training specifically, but also zone two, that's what's going to take you to the next level and make you feel like you're in your 20s again. TRT can be a bonus on on that, I guess, but it's really the training that you're missing.

54:13 So, so as far to answer your question about training, it really depends on the goal. When my client, let's say for clients who want to lose fat, I start them with four 30 minute uh sessions in the gym and a step count like I said earlier, that's what I start them with. So, uh what I do personally, which is more optimized, is I do I do uh two to three full body routines per week. I'll do one to two HIT trainings per week and I'm including jiu-jitsu training in the HIT training because I max out my heart rate when I do that. But if I

54:51 you're on if you're on the mat with someone, you're going to max out your heart rate. There's no way. If you've ever done jiu-jitsu, you're going to max out. Just deal with it. You're going to be sweaty. It's It's wonderful for it. It's not good for injuries, but it's wonderful

55:02 for your joints. No. No. Really not. I I have a torn labor on my left arm, and anytime I've gone to want to go do jiu-jitsu, they're like, "No." They're like, "We're going to take that arm out." And I was like, "Dang it." So, I that's what's prevented me from doing jiu-jitsu is it just because if I it's so bad that if I do this, for those of you watching the video, if I just put my arm out to the right, um if I do with my left arm, it comes right out. It just there's nothing there keeping it in. So, jiu-jitsu just doesn't work for me.

55:29 So, too right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. How I train because I've had it since I was 13, 14 years old.

55:37 I've had to change and really modify. Like I'd love to just be on machines. I mean on on just free weights. Absolutely not. I have to use the machine for stability cuz if not right out just rip it up. That's what it is.

55:49 Well, the good news is I used to preach that free weights are the way to go and machines are, you know, not the way to go and not not as good. And I think there's still a little bit argument to be made and maybe in motor learning perhaps or like you know, but it it doesn't matter. use whatever equipment that

56:10 ines go to your level right if you if you've got you know you talked about you've been in multiple car accident you've got a herniated disc I don't have that I've got a blown out labor it just it is what it is so I have to adjust the exercises I can do like there's a there's an exercise where you put the bar and you just push the bar straight up behind your back and that's how you I can't do it because that angle will rip the arm out

56:31 is what it is it's what prevents me from doing squats because the way you hold it if I put my arm too far back it'll rip out socket cuz I've done squats.

56:38 So, it dislocates. Oh, yeah. It comes right out. Oh, okay. So, yeah, that's a Yeah, that's when your shoulder um dislocates like that. That's a whole another issue. Yeah,

56:50 it is. It's why when I do triathlons, everyone's like, "Why are you so fast out of the gate with swimming?" I was like, "Cuz I have to get away from everybody because if not, my arm's coming out." So, the first, you know, minute and a half, I'm a dead sprint just to get away from everyone else. And then I'm like, okay, now I've got distance and I can survive because you get caught up with somebody. It's it it's not fun. So, always work out where you are. It just is what it is.

57:14 One of the things, you know, you talk about stem cell, you know, you've given a lot of really amazing insights in here. And is there anything you have seen that the Gen Pop might not know about that's like, hey, I found Flintstone vitamins and they were amazing or whatever that specific thing is. Uh, so I might have just dated myself on that with the Flintstone vitamins reference.

57:32 I grew up taking those two. Hey, those were good. Those were good. They were tasty.

57:36 They were tasty. Might not have been good for me, but they were tasty. Right. Exactly.

57:40 What are the things that you have found that most people haven't talked about that you're like that that's what you really want to do?

57:46 Yeah. One, uh, if you have any type of like if you have like you know that your cholesterol is not good or blood sugar or take a fiber supplement. It can be as simple as celium husk. Let me tell you something. The number one supplement period for health longevity as far as we know right now is fiber. It is not sexy to talk about. I don't talk about a lot because people are just like I thought you mean what about the like no this is what the research says. I take it every day.

58:20 I take selium husk from Target every day. It's the sugar-free one. It's ar it's comes in an orange container

58:26 every single day. Not because I wanted the health benefits, but just because gut healthwise, I fried my system a little bit. I'm just need some help moving some things through. It's the nicest way I can say it. And then since I started eating um anything fermented because I have a real tough time with that, I've been eating sauerkraut.

58:44 That has reduced the need for the fiber for those reasons. But also, I still just take the fiber every day. It's just non-negotiable. you you just should it'll help with so many things. Take 10 to 15 grams a day. I like to take 5 g before meals, especially if I'm going to have a meal like uh uh that I know is not going to be optimal, let's say, uh for blood lipids or like a really fatty meal or really sugary like have dessert or maybe a combination of both. Um yeah, that's a game changer. have and it also there's if we're talking about fat loss um you know a lot of people in the past the hydroxy cut and the the um oh what did people used to do I forget what I used to do you would mix it with aspirin anyway don't take any of that stuff it doesn't really do anything except suppress your appetite

59:42 because you're so wired you're like I don't need to eat because I'm so wired right but take uh take the fiber supplement you can take I Take Fibermen by Thorn too if you want like to try something a little bit fancier. But you can just take celium and have it before your meals. You're going to naturally eat less fewer calories, right? So that's what we cuz you're because the whole thing is hunger management. In fact, the GLP1 drugs that are so popular, the Olympics and all that at the they do a lot of things, but at the fund fundamental level, they make you less hungry so you eat less. That's all they do. And they're the biggest breakthrough ever, right? And all they do is they affect a part of your brain, the hypothalamus, and you're just less hungry, so you eat less. And that kind of causes other problems because you're undereating protein and right, not getting the nutrients sometimes, but you

1:00:36 can lose muscle mass. But anyway, uh fiber is is a way to to manage your appetite and feel full and improve your health if especially if you have high blood sugar or high lipids, high cholesterol, high LDL cholesterol or apple lip protein B.

1:00:54 That's are there other you mentioned you you take supplements as well. What are there certain supplements? I know you mentioned Thorn. I love their product. They're a great product line. Really clean source. What are the are there certain supplements for as far as multivitamins or D or E or any other vitamins that you normally recommend for your clients?

1:01:10 Yeah, sure. So, a lot of us were not sleeping so great. So, what I would do uh magnesium glycinate or bislycinate, it's the same same thing. Um it's it's magnesium paired with the amino acid amino acid glycine. Uh magnesium helps a ton of different things. uh improves sleep and also glycine improves sleep as well. I'll have people take magnesium glycinate or bislycinate. Uh Thor makes a good one that you just mix into some water and take it. Uh that's what I would do if you need it added. A lot of this is specific to someone's blood work though, right? Bourberine, for example, if I had a client with blood sugar issues and lipid issues, bourberine hydrochloride would be something I would try with them along with the fiber. Uh, glycine taken by itself. Um, if someone had issues with with blood pressure, torine, I think everybody should be taking creatine unless you have some sort of bad um bad issue with your with

1:02:23 your kidneys. Um, Mitch, if you don't know if you have bad issues with your kidneys or not, then you don't have them because your doctor definitely definitely would let you know from your blood work. So, take creatine and I would take I take 10 grams of creatine. There's a lot of there's a lot of research coming out on like um the cognitive benefits of creatine, the mood benefits. It's small, but uh the 3 to five grams that most is recommended for like muscle growth, it's probably a little underdosed. So, I would I would do that. That's what I do personally. And then um yeah, what are some other things? The biggest thing that you're going to get is from getting lean and getting your V2 max up. You want to feel like a superhuman. Yeah.

1:03:15 And then if you have injuries, uh I I went and got stem cells, but PRP is something that I would I after I read all this stuff later, I would have I might have tried PRP first. It's cheaper, but it doesn't seem as effective. So, you have to do more of them. and I did add. Anyway, I could keep talking. I love this stuff.

1:03:37 Right. So, if someone is, you know, what are your normal clients results? I guess is a question because there's are there going to be people who are like, I'm coming in. I heard your stuff. This changed the ball game. What does my life look like 90 days from now? Yeah. We uh we get we help people lose somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 20 pounds in 90 days. So that's like a reset. The real honest truth is it probably takes close to a year to to completely transform your body depending on how someone's schedule. It might happen in 8 to 9 months if someone's really dedicated.

1:04:16 But what we found is like throughout the year there'll be like periods of time where people just fall off track and then have to get back on. But, uh, if you work with me, I'll get you to the point where, like my client Trevor said, uh, who's a great testimonial on my website. He's like, "Man, I know what it's like to have like what women feel after they had a boob job. Like, I I go on vacation, I take my shirt off, everybody's looking. He's he's so lean." And he just turned 50, great shape. Everybody thought he was on TRT. So, um, he he came in, he was, I think 20% or no, no, maybe 18% body fat when he was, uh, first working with me. So, I would say this, if you're working right now, if you're cuz all of our clients some sometimes like, well, I already kind of know what to do, but I'm just, you know, I just need more discipline. It's like, well, listen, you really don't know what you're doing cuz you'd have really

1:05:18 amazing results. um if you're at a point where you're like, "Hey, I really like I want to see what my body is capable of. I also want to prophylactically deal with some of this stuff." So, so again, Peter Aia, great another person of um who's great uh medical doctor, wrote the book outlive, he talks about the centinarian Olympics. So, I think thinking of what you're going to do when you're 100 can be a bit of a stretch unless you're, you know, really into the AI and the, you know, all the craziness. So, I like to tell people, where do you want to what do you want to be doing when you're 80? Cuz you if you keep doing what you're doing right now, this like, no, I'm doing pretty good. You probably won't make it to 80 because

1:06:00 or if you do get there, you're going to be in a home. Exactly. And you're not going to have ability to stand up. And it's again, I too many years sitting in a hospice watching people die.

1:06:10 Exactly. And it's for me, it's always been what gets me to go is we're all going to get sick. Period. This is what it is. No one's getting out of this alive. And that's just how this works. What I wanted to have is when that time comes, I s go, you know what? I did within reason everything I could so I can be at peace because I'm I'm going to die sooner or later. It happens to all of us. But saying, okay, the best quality of life I could have versus individuals you talked about, do they drop their pants and they inject themselves all the time with insulin or anything else or they can't stand up or they get blurry or whatever it is. It's quality of life versus quantity. One of the arguments that I have all the time with people is the most valuable asset you have is your time. And I tell them, "No, it's not."

1:06:51 There are individuals who had polio, who had a ton of time. They lasted 90 years, but they were in a Coke can with their head sticking out. It ain't your time. It's your health. And it appears they don't get it until too late, regrettably. So, if people wanted to track you down, because again, you and I could talk about this for hours. If people wanted to track you down and find you and say, "Okay, I get it. I understand that if I don't make some changes, I'm gonna be well, it's going to be wall-ally for me. I'm going to be in that chair and I'm gonna be going around and things are going to get really, really bad. And these are different things. And I, you know, I heard TED talk and it was really contrarian to what I've heard with other things. How do people find you? How do they track you down? What's the best way?

1:07:29 Yeah. Go to legendarylifeodcast.comfree. That's our masterclass. And uh if if you want to see what we do and some of our before and after photos, we got a ton of testimonials and and hear more about what I do. That that's the place to go.

1:07:46 All right, man. I really appreciate it, Ted. Thank you so much for coming on. Absolutely, Charles. Thanks for the opportunity and invite.

1:07:52 The data speaks louder than opinions. While everyone debates which diet is best, Ted's clients lose 15 to 20 pounds in 90 days by tracking calories and lifting weights.

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