This Multimillionaire Might Save Your Child - Paul Hutchinson

What this episode is about

Paul Hutchinson, a multimillionaire and founder-turned-investor, shares his work leading undercover child rescue missions and the impact of his efforts against child trafficking, highlighting the scale of abuse and the urgent need for proactive intervention to protect children.

Key takeaways

• Powerful stories don’t win by soft sells—prove outcomes, not promises, to earn trust and impact.
• From wealth to impact: genuine accountability requires translating wealth into verifiable child-safety results.
• Epstein-era transparency matters: proof, not performative activism, reshapes public discourse and policy willfully.
• Undercover bravery beats glossy branding—results in the field create credibility lenders and the public trust.
• Bias for action: entrepreneurs must translate risk tolerance into scalable, verifiable safety interventions for kids.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Paul Hutchinson (Guest) · 54 min speaking
• Charles (Host) · 14 min speaking
• Therese Hutchinson (Guest) · 5 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Mexico, Jeffrey 71st – Miller, Charles, Jeffrey Epstein, child trafficking
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Anxiety, Depression, Child Liberation Foundation, Roblox
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Anxiety, Depression, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), psilocybin
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Mexico, Krav Maga, Peru
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Hollywood, Mexico, Angel Studios, The Sound of Freedom
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: The Sound of Freedom
7. 1:10:00 – 1:15:04: Jeffrey 71st – Miller, Charles, The Sound of Freedom, Mexico

Notable quotes from "This Multimillionaire Might Save Your Child - Paul Hutchinson"

• Welcome to the Proven Podcast, where we don't care what you think, only what you can prove. On this episode, we talked to Paul Hutchson, a multi-millionaire who's saving children. This episode hit me.

  about Jeffrey 71st – Miller, Charles · at 0:00

• Foundation and others that we helped to fund were rescued and returned with their families. I am the primary investor and executive producer behind a movie called The Sound of…

  about Paul Hutchson · at 1:54

• On save the wells, save the trees, whatever. We can all get together on this one thing. Children are not for sale and what do we need to do as responsible adults to keep our…

  about child trafficking · at 2:49

• Rescued during my 10 years. However, today under the leadership of my wife the Child Liberation Foundation helps more than 10,000 children a month in preventing them from being trafficked.

  about Child Liberation Foundation · at 6:02

• I want to go undercover. I want to go to Mexico." And the worst thing you can do is go to Mexico and try to rescue kids.

  about Mexico · at 8:38

• You need your little boy to be able to come to you and say, "Hey, Dad. I kind of screwed up. I was on Roblox.

  about Roblox · at 10:09

• Situation where they're not going to be a victim. I suggest Krav Magaw. So I is one of the reasons why you know most of me and most of my operators were Krav Maga…

  about Krav Maga · at 38:03

• Before it came out and could not get distribution. Why? because the narrative was something that Hollywood and big media did not want us to have these conversations. Why?…

  about Hollywood · at 42:30

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Paul Hutchson — Person · Main guest · 1 mention · first at 0:05
  He describes his background as a mental-health entrepreneur, co-founder of Bridge Investment Group, and leader of undercover child rescue missions, then gives practical guidance for parents on preventing trafficking and abuse.
• Jeffrey 71st – Miller, Charles — Person · Host · 3 mentions · first at 0:00
  He interviews Paul Hutchson, pushes for actionable tactics for parents, and frames the episode around preventing child trafficking and abuse.
• Jeffrey Epstein — Person · Referenced person (symbol of elite trafficking/impunity) · 2 mentions · first at 2:41
  Used as a focal point for public demand for transparency and accountability; the host references 'Epstein files' as a current event motivating action.
  Standing up saying, "No, we're not going to we're not going to stand for anything less than full transparency with the Epstein situation. We need to…
• Violent Pennington — Person · Referenced person (business partner) · 1 mention · first at 1:01
  Named as Paul Hutchson's partner in building Bridge Investment Group, establishing Paul's business credibility and resources used for anti-trafficking work.
  John Pennington and I built that to about 4,000 employees. about 20 billion in assets under management. I retired almost a decade ago, turned it over to a whole bunch of people that.

Companies & orgs

• Child Liberation Foundation — Organization · Core organization (prevention and training) · 2 mentions · first at 6:08
  Presented as the vehicle through which Paul Hutchson's family funds teams, trains professionals (hospitality/medical), and prevents trafficking at scale.
• Hollywood — Organization · Criticized institution (media narrative control) · 3 mentions · first at 42:36
  Portrayed as resisting distribution and suing a content-filtering product; used to argue mainstream media discourages conversations about trafficking.
• The Walt Disney Company — Company · Criticized company (distribution obstruction claim) · 1 mention · first at 42:45
  Paul Hutchson claims Disney (via Fox rights) blocked distribution of The Sound of Freedom, used to argue that powerful media entities resist trafficking discussions.
  Conversations. Why? Because there's so much of that crap going on there. we were blocked by Disney. Disney bought out Fox International that had the distribution rights…
• Angel Studios — Company · Referenced company (film distribution partner) · 2 mentions · first at 42:23
  Named as the distribution company that ultimately released The Sound of Freedom after years of difficulty; contrasted with Hollywood's resistance.
  Distribution company that we went with for the sound of freedom was is called Angel Studios and it's because for years we had finished Sound of Freedom 5 years before…

Products & tech

• Roblox — Product · Referenced product (online grooming/sextortion vector) · 1 mention · first at 10:13
  Used as an example platform where predators pose as children to solicit images/videos and extort minors, especially boys aged 12–14.

Concepts & topics

• child trafficking — Concept · Core topic · 1 mention · first at 2:54
  The central subject: Paul Hutchson describes undercover rescues, prevention programs, and parent-focused tactics to reduce risk, emphasizing that many victims remain at home while being exploited.
• Sex trafficking — Concept · Core topic (type of trafficking discussed) · 6 mentions
  Discussed as a primary form of child exploitation, including online grooming/sextortion and in-person abuse facilitated by travel/tourism and criminal networks.
• Safety — Concept · Core topic (practical prevention and personal security) · 8 mentions
  The episode repeatedly translates trafficking risk into actionable safety practices: family communication, situational awareness, self-defense, tech hygiene, and emergency medical readiness.
• PTSD — Concept · Core topic (mental health impact and healing) · 1 mention · first at 0:46
  Discussed as both a consequence of trauma/abuse and as a condition affecting operators; used to motivate therapy, disclosure, and (controlled) psychedelic-assisted approaches.
  >> well, quick background. In my early 20s, I had a very successful company that helped people overcome anxiety, depression PTSD addictions childhood trauma. Sold…
• Anxiety — Concept · Core topic (mental health impact and treatment) · 7 mentions · first at 0:46
  Paul Hutchson frames his early business around helping people overcome anxiety and later ties anxiety to unhealed childhood trauma and abuse.
  >> well, quick background. In my early 20s, I had a very successful company that helped people overcome anxiety, depression PTSD addictions childhood trauma. Sold…
• Depression — Concept · Core topic (mental health impact and treatment) · 6 mentions · first at 0:46
  Discussed alongside anxiety and PTSD as a common outcome of trauma/abuse and as a target of CBT-style interventions and controlled psychedelic protocols.
  >> well, quick background. In my early 20s, I had a very successful company that helped people overcome anxiety, depression PTSD addictions childhood trauma. Sold…
• Krav Maga — Concept · Recommended self-defense approach · 1 mention · first at 38:05
  Recommended as practical self-defense training to increase confidence and reduce victimization risk; described as used by Paul Hutchson and his operators.
• Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) — Concept · Referenced treatment framework · 1 mention · first at 25:39
  Paul Hutchson describes building an early company around a CBT-based program to change negative thought habits driving anxiety/depression and trauma-related symptoms.
  Were creating anxiety and depression in the first place. things like negative self-t talk and worry and what if thinking and negative expectations and the perceptions we have of oursel our coping skills in dealing with stress. These are all.
• psilocybin — Concept · Referenced treatment modality (controlled psychedelic use) · 1 mention · first at 29:28
  Discussed as a psychedelic that can induce temporary neuroplasticity; Paul Hutchson argues for controlled, facilitated use for trauma/PTSD rather than recreational legalization.
  Friends. This is not only a bad idea, it's dangerous. Why? Because what happens is things like psilocybin in the mushrooms that it creates a temporary state of…
• MDMA — Concept · Referenced treatment modality (example psychedelic/entactogen) · 1 mention
  Mentioned by the host as an example substance people try for PTSD; framed as something that should only be used in controlled, professional settings.

Places & events

• Mexico — Place · Key referenced location (operations and risk context) · 8 mentions · first at 4:46
  Paul Hutchson describes leading a major rescue mission in Mexico and warns listeners not to attempt amateur rescues there; also references trafficking routes and cartel activity.
• Haiti — Place · Referenced location (operations) · 3 mentions
  Paul Hutchson describes operations in Port-au-Prince involving organ harvesting; also referenced as extremely dangerous for operators.
• Peru — Place · Referenced location (trafficking ring; travel) · 1 mention · first at 38:52
  Cited in a cross-border trafficking ring with Ecuador and also as a destination Paul Hutchson's daughter wanted to travel to.
  Years ago she wanted to travel and train around the world in holistic healing stuff. She wanted to go to Peru by herself and to Mexico. And I said sweetie. I says let me you…
• Colombia — Place · Referenced location (where trafficking occurs) · 2 mentions · first at 5:45
  Mentioned as an example of a country where trafficking occurs, countering the idea that it only happens abroad while still acknowledging international hotspots.
  And third world countries. Now, it doesn't just happen in Mexico. It doesn't just happen in Colombia. It happens in the United States. The United States is the…
• Ecuador — Place · Referenced location (cross-border ring) · 1 mention · first at 6:54
  Mentioned as part of a trafficking ring spanning Peru and Ecuador that was disrupted after a doctor recognized signs of trafficking.
  Down one of the largest trafficking rings that ranged between Peru and Ecuador because a doctor knew what to look for. contacted our team. My wife went in, started talking to…

Media & podcasts

• The Sound of Freedom — Media · Referenced media / catalyst for discussion · 4 mentions · first at 2:04
  The film is presented as a major awareness driver; Paul Hutchson says he was the primary investor and executive producer and that it spurred public discussion about trafficking and the Epstein situation.
  Fund were rescued and returned with their families. I am the primary investor and executive producer behind a movie called The Sound of Freedom. About 2 and a half years ago…

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Welcome to the Proven Podcast, where we don't care what you think, only what you can prove. On this episode, we talked to Paul Hutchson, a multi-millionaire who's saving children. This episode hit me hard in ways that I can't possibly explain. One of the things that I learned from this episode is that one in three children who are trafficked, assaulted, or abused sleep in their own beds at night. He has spent the last decade hunting down these individuals that do it. And this episode alone can save your child's life. The show starts now. All right, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Paul, I'm excited to have you here.

0:28 >> Ah, thank you, Charles. super excited to share with you and your audience today. >> So, for the four or five people who don't know who you are and don't know about your business success and your personal success, kind of give everybody a quick debrief. Who are you? What have you done? >> Um, well, quick background. In my early 20s, I had a very successful company that helped people overcome anxiety, depression PTSD addictions childhood trauma. Sold it at 29 years old for $20 million. Uh, um, a lot of that went into real estate investments. I I'm the co-founder of Bridge Investment Group.

1:01 Uh John Pennington and I built that to uh about 4,000 employees. Um about 20 billion in assets under management. I retired almost a decade ago, turned it over to a whole bunch of people that knew how to run it better than me. I'm still an owner, still a founder. It's now over 50 billion in assets under management. A whole other part of my life that is completely separate from that but kind of in the same line is I um years ago I was recruited to help lead undercover child rescue missions for kids that are are are being trafficked in some of the most horrific places and the horrific situations you can imagine. Uh I led undercover child rescue missions for more than 10 years.

1:48 uh 70 missions in 15 countries and uh more than 7,000 children through our foundation and others that we helped to fund uh were rescued and returned with their families. Um I am the primary investor and executive producer behind a movie called The Sound of Freedom. About 2 and a half years ago, it came out as the number one independent film in the world. Um we only spent 14 million on the film but did almost 300 million now in in box office sales. The money is not important. What is important is more than 100 million children are now safer now because their parents have awareness. 70 million plus parents have seen that film. And and it's not only created awareness with them, but it's created a general topic of discussion wherein good people everywhere are standing up saying, "No, we're not going to we're not going to stand for anything less than full transparency with the

2:43 Epstein situation. We we need to clean this up globally. We can we can disagree on save the wells, save the save the trees, whatever. We we can all get together on this one thing. Children are not for sale and and what do we need to do as responsible adults to keep our own children safe and to fix this situation with kids around the world. Thank you for giving all of that because there's there's a hard pivot from what we normally do which is like hey we're going to talk about how to prove in wealth and create assets and create this ability to create these hundred $200 million plays. I don't care about any of that. I'd much rather save the kids and that's just that's just how I am. So the minute you came across I was like yes let's talk about it. And especially with everything that's going on with Epstein right now there's got to be something

3:25 that we can do because I believe entrepreneurs are the only ones who are going to be able to move things around. So, as we go into this and as we face into this, you did a lot of undercover work and I don't want to spend too much time scaring the heck out of people because I think selling children and what happens to children uh is is relatively wellnown, but let's let's talk a little bit about that just so people know these people like we talk about this all the time. My friends who are operators and they're special force operators and people always ask them, "Oh, do you kill people?" And their response is, "We don't make cupcakes." This is what are you talking about? So getting into this and when we're talking about what's happening to these kids without getting too dark and getting lost down the rabbit hole, let let's

4:03 have that conversation of, you know, what are we talking about here? When we're talking children being sold, they're not being sold for PlayStations or to play PlayStations at least. >> Mhm. Not at all. Well, and and um you know, on on your note about the other operators, I I told my operators for years, I said, "Listen, it's not our job to judge. That's God's job. But if we need to arrange that meeting, I'm I'm okay with that. You know, you rape a child, you're wasting my oxygen. Period.

4:30 Period. And and there there's just there's just no excuse for somebody harming a child like that. We uh we ran operations in Porta Prince, Haiti, in which we took down uh organ harvesting operations with these kids. Uh we we we I I led the largest child rescue mission in Mexico, 48 children in Porttoarte. all over the news right now. You see the the incredible amount of of cartel um active uh that is burning the city in in in that region right now. Uh I was I was 4 months deep cover really close with cartel members in that area in uh in identifying who was selling children. We had followed um some strings that came from a place called Tenencinga in Mexico. Very very dangerous uh in through Mexico City and we followed those leads that went into the port of area. These are these are tourist areas in which Americans, wealthy first world country men would go in and do the most

5:35 horrible things that you can think of to uh to children in these in these second and third world countries. Now, it doesn't just happen in in Mexico. It doesn't just happen in Colombia. It happens in the United States. The United States is the number one consumer producer and consumer of child pornography in the world. And we'll talk about this in uh in really recognizing what trafficking is. I I you know, I mentioned earlier more than 7,000 kids rescued during my 10 years. However, today uh under the leadership of my wife uh the Child Liberation Foundation helps more than 10,000 children a month in preventing them from being trafficked.

6:15 Why? Because we've got teams on the ground from foundations that we fund that have been trained to identify what trafficking looks like as they come across different borders. We have certification programs for people who work in hospitality and hotels and people who work in medical. 85% of kids while they're being sold for these heinous crimes are are actually go to a doctor while they're being trafficked. And if a doctor doesn't know what to look for or questions to ask, those children stay in that situation. So So by by training them, we we just took down one of the largest trafficking rings that ranged between Peru and Ecuador because a doctor knew what to look for. contacted our team. My wife went in, started talking to the this little girl, and we got all the leads necessary to take down this operation.

7:04 So, yes, some of these children are taken from uh uh normal family and and and kidnapped and moved. The majority of these children though, we'll talk about this in the show, the majority of these children sleep in their own beds at night and their parents don't know that it's happening. And so that's that's something we can talk about as well is how we as parents can really understand the the problem and how we can fix it. >> So my default reaction to all of this is just violence. I'm like, how do I just hurt as many of these people as I possibly get my hands on? But I know there's a more logical approach. I know there's more things we could do to prevent it from even starting. And um if I'm a parent, if I'm going through it, cuz we know what's going on. We feel completely powerless right now against

7:56 what's happening with the epsene files, against all the people that had the power and they're just ignoring it even though we have blatant proof of it. What are the things if I'm a parent right now and I'm listening to this and I just had this terrifying realization that my child could be still under my roof in the bed that I provided with the food that I'm giving them wherein the clothes that I put on their back are still being trafficked and molested and assaulted and harvested. What are the things that I immediately as a parent right now can say, "Okay, these are the two things I could do today to make things a little bit better." That's so interesting. So many people will leave our movie. They'll they'll leave Sound of Freedom. And then they'll be like, "Okay, I want to do something.

8:38 I want to go undercover. I want to go to Mexico." And the worst thing you can do is go to Mexico and try to rescue kids. You're you're going to get shot and you're probably going to get arrested. The the best thing you can do is go home and hug your children. And parents are like, "Well, how does that stop trafficking?" Well, the majority of children who are being taken and moved to other places come from broken homes, uh, uh, runaways, a broken foster care program. So, the more you can do to to hold together your nuclear family, the the better it will be for your children.

9:10 In addition to that is so important that you have a relationship with your children. they can very comfortably come to you and say when something's off where they can come to you and say, "Hey, Dad, I I I don't I don't like it when you tell me to hug Uncle Harry cuz he he touches me weird and he says we should have secrets outside of you." or or this babysitter. She's she she says we should trust her more than you and now she's showing us pornography and or I don't like going to this friend's house because her brother took pictures of us while we were changing and now he says he's going to share them all over the the school unless we do other things with him and his friends and or more common than any now the FBI says that it's the the fastest growing threat to our children in the US is what we call

9:58 sextor on the internet. You need a healthy relationship with your kids. In fact, the the age that is most targeted right now is 12 to 14y old boys where you need your little boy to be able to come to you and say, "Hey, Dad. Uh, I kind of screwed up. I I I was on Roblox. I was on this this online platform and and I was talking to this girl said she was 12 and and and she sent me some pictures of her that weren't very appropriate and and and I sent some back to her and back and forth and now now then she asked for some videos and I did that and now she says she's going to send them all over my school or all over the internet unless I pay some money or unless I show up at this place that it wasn't a 12-year-old girl. It was a 45-year-old dude who was who was a predator online posing as another child that was targeting your little boy. And it happens all the time. There's kids

10:53 that have committed suicide because they were so scared of telling their parents. You you need a you need a relationship with your kids where you are their 911. You're their 911. Say, "Listen, I don't care what it is. I don't care what it is. I will I I I love you no matter what. Now, we will fix this together. whatever if you screwed up on whatever it is, we'll fix it together. But you need to come to me first and be comfortable in coming to me so that we can fix this. >> So what are the tactical ways to do that? Because regrettably here in our society, we teach men to bottle it up and you don't cry and you don't have those emotions and you don't share that.

11:29 So we're dealing with generational damage, right? We're we're inheriting a lot of this. We're having to break patterns in order to save our kids. What are the things that the tactical things? What? How do you start that conversation? How do you sit down with little Billy and say, "Hey, little Billy, crying's actually not the worst thing in the world." Cuz it's it's one of my favorite things that happens is there's a group of guys that I know cuz I've been doing this long enough and they're like, "Yeah, I don't cry." I'm like, "Cool. Would you like to call up a bunch of Delta operators and have them cry in front of you so you can feel like more like a man?" Cuz they cry. I tell you, the toughest some [ __ ] I know cry. They've made they've made peace

12:00 with that. They've been in their EQ. How do we start that conversation? What do you say, hey, we need to talk about people doing this horrible [ __ ] Like what is the lead in that's been the proven way to create the best results? >> Well, well, and let me go even deeper on that and and help parents understand the the gravity of the problem and how likely it is that their child is being abused. So today, of all of the women who are listening to us today, all of them that uh one out of four of them have have been sexually abused or admit that they've been sexually abused as a child. As a child. Now, that's just the ones that talk about it. The average age of somebody talking about abuse as a child is 52 years old. 52. Most people never talk about it. In fact, the the women who come to our healing retreats retreats, it's well over 50% of women

12:58 who are dealing with anxiety, depression PTSD addictions anger issues, all of these things. It's well over 50%. Now, with men, it's it's less. It's one in five that talk about it. Now, the reason behind it is that most men don't talk about it. Okay? Most men don't talk about it. the the a man saying, "Well, you know, that thing that happened to me when I was eight, it by my uncle, that'll make me less of a man if I talk about that." No, it won't. You were eight. That was that was a horrible thing that happened to that little boy because the parents were unaware of the dangers that were out there because of a very broken uncle that did that at the time. Now, here's some here's some motivation, guys, to talk to the kids to help them heal and motivation for you to get the help that you need. So,

13:48 statistically, if a man holds it inside, men don't cry, men don't talk about it. If a man holds it inside and never talks about it, it's going to come out. It comes out in anger issues anxiety depression PTSD all of these these unhealthy relationships, addictions, and one in three that don't talk about it, one in three, if not given the help, the love, the healing that they need, become a contact offender in the physical, verbal, and sexual abuse of a child. Now, most of my undercover operators were abused as children. They grew up to be protectors rather than abusers. What was the difference? They talked about it. They got it off their chest. Even talking to their wife, talking to us as other operators. Hey, this is what happened and this is this is why I'm here. This is why I'm risking my life to save these children. And so if nothing else guys,

14:47 if nothing else, talk about it because the number goes from one in three to about one in 50 if not a one in a 100red if you simply release that toxic energy and talk about it so that you can get the help that you need. Even even if you're like, "Hey, I don't need to heal." You may not need to go to a healing retreat. just just have a conversation with your your your your church buddy or your your your friend at work or your wife or whatever. Talk about that because that will help them heal. So when when it comes to kids, it's so important that we start having healthy conversations about what's appropriate and what's not with these children. We we have kids as young as five, six years old that we have programs in um in in orphanages, in foster programs, things that these kids are are more likely to be abused. And so we have teams, we have psychologists, we

15:48 meaning the Child Liberation Foundation has teams that go in and they'll they'll get a you know a big roll of paper and they'll cut it so that it's just big enough for the a child to lay down on and they'll take turns you know outlining each other's bodies. So now it's their body there and they color their shorts and they color shirt and they put a smile on the face. They color it and then we have a discussion about what's private. Okay? You know what's what's here? What's here? And they cut out another piece of paper and then we talk to them about okay where do we and they they they glue it on. Okay. These are the private places. These are the places that nobody gets to touch. Nobody gets to, you know, have you show them that it's isn't your mom giving you a bath or something. This is important.

16:28 And so just having that conversation, a fun little activity with a four, five, sixyear-old child will help them understand, oh wow. And the psychologists can tell when they're doing that with them immediately. The children who are being abused, they'll they'll they'll they'll exhibit certain behaviors when you're teaching them that and they're putting this this is these are the areas not to touch. And so having those conversations at a very young age because the majority of men who were sexually abused as children, it happened under the age of 10 years old in their home or a family member's home or a neighbor's home. The majority of them under the age of 10. So if you're not having that conversation with your young kids, it may be too late and now we have to go into helping them heal from that.

17:19 It's it's interesting you say that because everyone thinks it's only happening to children or size matters. A dear friend uh is now 67 6'8 and when he was a teenager mid- teenager think oh he was safe because he was this this massive guy. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And he's come out and he's talked about it and all that. It happens there as well. I want to get more into the tactics and because this is important to me and this is something that I'm probably never going to beat these families. But if I'm sitting down as a mom, if I'm sitting down as a dude, I want to walk through that process. I'm a guy. I I got I got abused when I was younger. I'm a woman. I got abused when I was younger. Whatever it is, I'm an adult now. H how do I start that conversation? How do I Because it's a

18:00 very hard thing to do because you have this ego or this illusion and you've hid this behind. There's immense amount of shame about it. >> How do you start that? What are the what is the best tactics? You know, you mentioned laying down on a piece of paper and and gluing that up, but if you're talking as an adult, you know, a guy to another guy where we can stop that contact abuse, how do we start it? What are the ways that you have found, you know, start it with this conversation? And and the reason I bring it up and I'll give you an example is whenever I'm out and about and I I never ask whoever my partner, I never say, "What do you want to eat?" I always say, "What do we want to eat? What did we like last week?" I've changed the U to a we. Now we're on the same team. It's a

18:35 very subtle thing, but it changes the ball game. Those little tactics matter when you're doing something like this and you're an adult and we're going to walk it back from the adult all the way down to the kids because I want people to get away drive away from this or listen from this going. This is exactly what I can do today to hopefully start reversing this and start helping these kids out and helping the adults as well. But it starts I think with the adults because they're level higher level of consciousness. If I'm an adult male and this has happened to me at some point, how do I start the conversation that's going to help me get the best results?

19:06 Well, find find who you are who you feel most safe in in in talking to. Uh it this could be uh I know your best friend, some somebody at work or or your spouse. Um, and first of all, if you're talking to another guy, chances are he's had some bouts with pornography and and things like this. And and a lot of our sexual dysfunction as men and those those addictions come from some unhealed uh wounds of our past that that uh we're we're trying to to cover up those wounds with with this. I I have one of my operators who um you know, he he was so sexually uh active through his high school years and and very promiscuous. And he he uh he he recognized as we really got into it that he was doing that subconsciously because he was trying to prove to the world that he wasn't homosexual because at 8 years old he was abused by his uncle, right?

20:16 And so his his acting out was a subconscious response to this feeling that I got to I got to prove that, you know, because of that thing that happened to me type thing. And so so having a having a conversation with another guy recognizing that there's there's more than a 50% chance that he's been through it as well and has never talked about it. And so that's a that's a win in just being able to feel comfortable in saying, "Hey, I this this happened to me." With with women, guys, your your wife has a higher chance than even your guy friendss at work that she had gone through something as well. And so um and and very very seldom is your especially your spouse is not going to to to hold that against you. It's a it's a it's a sign of of humility and saying, "Sweetie, uh, I need to talk to you about something

21:11 that's kind of heavy on me that I, you know, I I've if I can get it off my chest, I know that it's something that that I can just release and not hold on to these issues and stuff, it may be coming out in some of my, you know, anger issues or anxiety or whatever else." And so, just sitting down, setting that space together. Now, I I will say this, and this is this is important, guys. I I I'm not going to get religious here, but I'm going to throw this out. Um, in terms of of of divorce rates, divorce rates in the United States are about one and two.

21:46 It's 50% plus your divorce rate. And if I told you you could do something every day that would take you 2 minutes, maybe five at max, and it would take it from one and two to one in a thousand, would you want to know what it is? Some people are I want to that's a huge difference. One in two to one in a th00and couples who choose to pray together statistically it's one in 1,152 is the divorce rate of couples that pray together every day. And so turning it doesn't have to be something super religious. This is simply holding hands offering gratitude and saying hey we we we here's some things we need some help on. whatever it is in the Alcoholics Anonymous program, the AA program, the 12 steps, four of those steps are are very God- center. In fact, I would argue five or six, but four are very God- center. In fact, even sexual addict addictions anonymous are as well. And

22:42 acknowledging a higher power and acknowledging that that I I need that extra help to be able to to heal through this. And so again, not a religious conversation, but it's super important that you recognize the power of coming together as a couple and and maybe just sitting down and saying, "Hey, can we start this conversation with a prayer? Are you good with that?" And and do so and just bring in that that spirit of of authenticity and that that spirit of gratitude and healing into the conversation and then move forward with, hey, this is this is some things that happened to me. It doesn't define me. I just I just want to release it because I've been holding on to it and I I don't want to hold on to it anymore.

23:25 >> Right? I I think that's important with the with the factors of it of how the human mind works. Having the convers I don't care if you believe in God, Buddha, Allah, the big bang, the magic chicken, the dancing donkey. I really authentically do not care. That's irrelevant to me. That noun is irrelevant to me. But sitting down and saying, "Hey, this is what I'm grateful for for today. This was what I'm this was what I feel so blessed in whatever it is. If you believe in a magic bowl of spaghetti, awesome. I love that for I I don't care. Just don't make me believe in the magic bowl of spaghetti. But if you sit down, just it is what it is.

23:54 Having that conversation, say, "This is why I feel blessed for this was the best part of my day. This is what I'm grateful for. This is why I'm grateful for ABC, B, C, D, and E." It creates this authentic connection. And then from there, having that, hey, there's this thing that's holding space on me, yada yada. I'd like to talk about it. I think something you said is also really important that it doesn't define you. You know, everybody on this planet has done things that God, we wish we wouldn't had done. We've had things done we wish we wouldn't have had done. It it it is what it is. We've all done that.

24:25 But that doesn't define me any more than a freckle on my butt. It just is what it is. And having that conversation, regrettably, the most successful entrepreneurs I know, just like the most successful operators I know, have all had something. All every single one of them either. And and abuse isn't just physical, right? And as you were talking about with the situation where these kids are, you know, having pictures and doing that, it's that's completely mental. Abuse is abuse. Emotion is abuse. All of that. So, we get it from the guy side. My my hallucination is for the the female side talking and sitting down, it's it's a similar opening path to that. Is there something that we do differently for the females if you're an adult female that you would do differently than an adult male?

25:07 Well, I want to I want to just touch take just a couple minutes and touch on on uh on where my healing came from, >> where my um my operators and their wives have and where a lot of women that I have worked with over the years where their their healing has come from. So um back up with the audience uh you know I my early 20s I started a company um coaching company that helped people. It was a cognitive behavioral therapy uh program. We had workbooks, audio programs that that helped change the negative habit patterns of thought that were creating anxiety and depression in the first place. things like negative self-t talk and worry and what if thinking and negative expectations and the the perceptions we have of oursel our coping skills in dealing with stress. These are these are all uh habits that can be changed that the problem is is that many of them are deep embedded in our subconscious mind. Um if

26:11 you imagine a a brick of gold and this brick of gold is our subconscious and it's it's running 95% of our life is run by this subconscious mind. Now, when we're children, 0 to 9, 10 years old, that brick of gold is in a fluid state. It's it's in a state of neuroplasticity. We're very, very impressionable. We can learn three or four languages at the same time that we can learn how to ride our bike and eat and everything else. And so, so if something happens during those impressionable years, if our if our uncle uh abuses us or or even something simple, our dad says, "Oh, you look ugly and blue." whatever it is in that flow state of that gold bar, those things get deeply embedded and uh and they're very difficult to break out. You know, you they say it takes 21 days to create a habit, but that's 21 days in chiseling at the the surface of this

27:04 gold bar. If there's something super deep in there, it takes a lot longer, sometimes 10 and 20 years worth of therapy to be able to to extract those things that were deeply embedded. Um there are certain things that we can do to turn that gold bar back into a flow state. There uh breath work. Uh you know I've been a certified breath work uh uh worker for many many years. Uh meditation there are certain things that we can do within deep meditation techniques that can that can help change that. You can um you can do some everyday positive affirmations and starting to change those negative habit patterns. When we were working with the company 35 years ago, it took us 12 weeks with a with a personal coach, one to two hours a day to to make some real long-term change with people who had dehabilitating anxiety, depression, addiction issues that were stemming from some unhealed childhood trauma. Um 10

28:07 years ago I I had some operators, some uh I mean I had Green Berets with 300 missions in Afghanistan who already had PTSD that one undercover mission with us and seeing a a menu with children's faces and prices of things they would do for I mean it just sent their PTSD off the charts. They couldn't deal with it anymore. So we were losing operators in as we were funding these operations. And so I I delved back into my 35 year ago with my company helping people deal with this stuff, the cognitive restructuring and and uh I met some doctors. We met uh some of my two of my undercover operators um introduced me to some doctors and some scientists that that were working on the protocol for the proper use. And let me let me nail that word guys. The proper use of psychedelics when it comes to healing from childhood trauma, anxiety, depression, PTSD, etc. Now, let me get it straight right now. I am not a fan

29:14 whatsoever of us legalizing magic mushrooms and your kids going to a rave party and getting high with their friends. This is not only a bad idea, it's dangerous. Why? Because what happens is things like psilocybin in the mushrooms that it creates a temporary state of neuroplasticity like when you were a kid turns that gold bar into a flow state. And if you're at a rave party and you've got rap music going over here and somebody yelling at their wife over here, orgy going on over there, it's it's and you're in that super impressionable state, it's super dangerous for you. However, if you have a trained facilitator who knows how to work through some of that trauma and and the right music, the right intentions coming into it, you can literally create 10 and 20 years worth of therapy in 24 to 48 hours. And so the laws will change in the US over the next 2 years. And

30:10 it's so important that we have a little bit of a discussion as to what responsible adults can do to help them help others help help their loved ones release some of that trauma that have been deeply embedded in that gold bar of their subconscious mind. >> Yeah. And and we really want to speak on this because I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. That's just I've always been that way. I I can't drink. I take three sips of it. Comes right back out. It's a gift from my grandmother. Thank you, grandma. It's like one that partakes in it. Just thanks grandma. But in this environment, we're not talking about let's go buy this and do it on your home sitting on the couch. This is scientific backed things that have multiple studies for decades that are in controlled environments based on your weight, your

30:54 blood work, everything that's involved. This is very, very specific. I want to make sure again this is not medical advice on this show but going through and doing this with someone who is a trained professional who's done this for an exception like I wouldn't take 700 Tylenols in the morning probably not going to work out so well but there are measurements that we we've based it and we there is science and people getting into it because people think oh I'm going to take this thing people have PTSD and they take Iawasa or MDMA or whatever the laundry list is in the middle of a jungle while they're licking the butt of a frog. I'm like, what are you do? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

31:32 There are very specific things you could do in a controlled environment where we know, hey, it's it's like building a Lego piece. I've got my instruction manual. Let me try and put it together step by step by step and leverage the science. So, please understand, if you're listening to this right now, >> we're not telling you to go lick the back of frogs and drink a bunch of LSD or whatever you do with LSD. I have no idea. We're not telling you to do that.

31:54 What we're trying to say is there is professional options out there. Go through the therapy process. See if you qualify. Do the blood work. Find a trained professional who's done it for an exceptionally long period of time. That's a healthy environment. Because one of my one of my dear friends who's got TBI and he's got PTSD has done some of this stuff. And he came to me and he goes, "Okay, it doesn't fix it, but at least points my car in the right direction so I can start heading and taking the next step by step by step by step by step path. This is it's same thing with cold plunges. People like I'm going to do a cold plunge. I'm like I love club plunges. They're great.

32:29 They're like I'm going to do it for four hours. I'm like that's probably not going to work out so well for your body, bud. So working through that like I like I grew up in South Florida. So I'm saturated with mold. So my doctor's like you're not doing cold blood anymore, chief. You you got to get an IR sauna and get it out not contain it. I was like oh okay that makes sense. So there is science behind all of this that we're trying to pivot around. So again, Paul's being very, very purposeful here. We're being very honest. Don't go to the local guy down the street and be like, "Hey, can I have seven gallons of this and drink it?" You'll [ __ ] die. Don't do that.

33:01 >> Work with someone in a very trained way because it and it's not a fix. And it's just starting the process and moving things around. You can't just keep doing it over and over again and thinking that magically everything's going to be fine. There's still a lot of work and a lot of therapy. And therapy is the gift you give yourself. Just it is what it is. >> So, exactly. I could couldn't have said it better >> if we've got adults. So, we've got kind of the adults, right? You get you get in the therapy, you talk to someone, you understand that it doesn't identify you.

33:28 It doesn't label that this is not who you are. Like, I used to play semi-professional baseball. I can't throw baseball anymore. I I probably could. It just would be embarrassing. Like, hey, that was 60 mph. That's embarrassing. Um, but that's not who I am anymore. It is what it is. We understand that this is here. I want to talk about what we could do for the kids. You know, you talked about, hey, there's this game. You can do this. What are the warning signs that because there's a lot of single families regrettably I mean marriage is bombing out around 60 something% at this point. There's a lot of broken homes. I come from a broken home like multiple divorces. I'm very blessed. None of that things happened to me. But as a parent right now who is watching the system completely disregard what is happening to these children who are menu items at

34:11 this point. What are the things that a parent can sit there and say, "Hey, what do I need to look out for with my kid? How do I do this? How do I create it? How do I become the sanctuary for my child to come to? And then how do I because they're not going to come to us because some of them don't know if it's good or bad at this point. This is just they're it is what it is. How do I identify what's going on with my kids? Are there certain telltale signs? And the reason I bring this up, I know I'm talking way too much here. Uh is when the whole situation with Colibine happened, they're like, "Oh, it's because they're playing this video game and listening to this music." I was like, "Time out. I'm playing to those video games. I'm listening to that music. I have access to weaponry. I

34:47 didn't shoot up my school. So there's there's you can't say this is everything. So what are the signs that kind of lead us to where we're going and that we could look out for for our kids? Well, number one, you know, if if your 12 13 year old daughter uh goes from being super outgoing to recluse, a lot of a lot of parents think, oh, you know, she's she's uh, you know, she's she's coming of age, you know, maybe maybe, you know, she's going into puberty and those emotional changes. No.

35:19 More likely, it's some other things that are going on, but she doesn't want to talk about it. Now, more important than looking for the signs of of abuse, it's if we can prevent it before it happens, that is everything. Parents, you know, we don't we don't want to wait until your daughter has gone through that. We don't want to wait until your son has has been, you know, gone through some sextortion thing online. We don't want to wait for that. It take the time.

35:50 Take the time to talk to them. take the time to sit down and have the important conversations. Your six-year-old, seven-year-old has probably already seen pornography on his friend's phone. So, so you you've got to start having these conversations young. Parents are like, you know, let's wait until they're old enough to really make a difference. No, at 5 years old, they need to be having the conversation about what's appropriate and what's not. and uh and so that they can once you have that conversation you can say hey can you come to me if that ever ever happens if anybody ever tries to say that you should trust them more than us if anybody says that that tries to show you pornography if anybody you know touches you in an inappropriate way any of these things can you feel comfortable in coming to us and talking to us about that you're not going to be in trouble I

36:43 promise you you're not going to be in trouble but it's important that we keep you safe because otherwise some of these things are going to be super heavy for you to to have to work through on your own. And so having those conversations early, um, teaching your kids to be very verbal, teaching them how to say no, how how to, you know, if something happens, yell no as loud as they can because the the predators are looking for kids who are who are going to be dosile, quiet. In fact, I have a there's a lot of stuff in the the the movie Sound of Freedom gives it gives an awareness in in the book. I did everything I could to give parents the tools they need to keep their kids safe. In the beginning section, it's all on the making of an undercover operator talking. But in there, every single paragraph are things parents can do. Training us what to look for and how how to identify when when

37:39 trafficking is going on. training us on self-defense. You know, I've had have had guys that come to me and they say, "Okay, you know, I can't be with my kids all the time. You know, how do I do I do I just have a security person with them always?" No. Having those conversations where they can be loud and they can be be verbal about it. They know what's going on and put your kids through some kind of self-defense stuff. It helps their confidence and puts them in a situation where they're not going to be a victim. I I I suggest Krav Magaw. So I is one of the reasons why you know most of me and most of my operators were Krav Maga trained. Uh now for you guys who don't know Krav um it's Israeli special forces handtoh hand combat training and it's the most lethal on earth. It's not bow to your sensei and three points when

38:26 you kick him in the leg. It's brick to their head go home to your family. And every move they don't talk, they don't walk, they don't see, etc. Uh we were trained to take away a gun faster than people could pull the trigger every time. Now my daughter my daughter um she's 100 pounds if that. She about 7 years ago she wanted to travel and and train around the world in holistic um healing stuff. She wanted to go to Peru by herself and to Mexico. And I said sweetie. I says let me you know she was 21 years old at the time but she looked like she was 16. So I says let me send security with you. She said, "Dad, I've been training." I says, "Okay, show me.

39:06 Show me." And I I put the mits on. I says, "Okay, let let's go." She goes, "Do higher." Now, I'm six feet high, right? She says, "Above your head." I put it up here. This little girl at 5'3, boom, jumps up and kicks that thing clean out of my hand above my head. I said, "All right, yeah, you can go. I'm I'm good with that." Cuz she she is confident in any situation because she's gone through the training. So, put your kids through something where they can defend themselves, teach them what's appropriate and what's not. Have the conversation where they can very comfortably come to you and tell you anytime something is off.

39:45 >> So, one of the reasons I like kaggra versus jitsu, versus systemma, versus any of those is the speed to pick up the basic skills. It's one of the great things about kromagra. You don't have to spend 30 years, 20 years, an entire year doing this. you can go do it very very quickly that you will be a different human being about 48 hours after you get a hold of some of this stuff. They're going to get you through the basics. And are you going to beat someone who's really well trained? Probably not. But is it going to give you a good chance?

40:11 Yeah, it's going to give you a really good chance. So doing the chromograph, getting through that, if you want to elevate into systemma or jiu-jitsu, it just takes more time in those environments and those disciplines. It's also teaching you your worth, your confidence 100%. So, you know, we've got speak to people, get some sort of training, be verbal, have a place that's going home. There's a lot of people want to use technology to help us out. So, installing routers that block certain things, you know, putting your things, tracking your phones, putting a an AirPod or what is it called? The little discs, you know, in their nodes and tracking them all around. What are things that actually work because that we can, you know, this is the best way to track your kids. This is the best way to make sure your kids aren't doing this because I think the most shocking thing

40:53 you've said so far is they come home and they sleep with in your beds at night. They're they're in your house. I always thought that these things are happening without their interaction with you. They're not actually in your home. So that's having seen that what are the things we can do? Are there any technologies at work to help us out with this? >> Absolutely. You know, there's there's there's plenty of things that you can put number one just to to keep your kids out of the the pornography world.

41:19 There's a lot of of of protections that you can put on your phones, on your computers. Make sure that the computers in your home are in public places. You know, have have a little desk in the kitchen area. Don't don't have your your son's laptop behind his locked door in his bedroom. Uh and and have have some filters that are on those as well. But, you know, there's only so much you can do without our kids figuring out how to get around it. you know, the conversations. I go back to that over and over again. Having having the conversations with them about why why these things are dangerous, why these things are will take us down a a dark road and desensitize us, etc. And uh and it's important also to to uh pay attention to not only the the internet and and things like that, but everything that's coming into your home. A little side story that I think your listeners

42:14 will enjoy knowing. Um the the distribution company that we went with for the sound of freedom was is called Angel Studios and it's because for years we had finished Sound of Freedom 5 years before it came out and could not get distribution. Why? because the narrative was something that Hollywood and big media did not want us to have these conversations. Why? Because there's so much of that crap going on there. Um, we were we were blocked by Disney. Disney bought out uh Fox International that had the distribution rights and we could not get distribution with with them holding the distribution rights. Later we had a former Disney executive that tighted up another and people say what you know Disney yes these guys were were were were tying this up which was crazy to me. Now moving forward the if you go if you go back in history for Angel Studios. They actually got sued by Hollywood years ago their predecessor

43:19 company. Why? because they had created a piece of hardware and software. It was kind of like a little DV DVR player that that gave you and I as responsible parents the ability to tune down whatever was on the the movie. There was there was a blasphemy switch. There was a a nudity one. There was a a blood and gore violence one, right? And you could take it from 10 all the way down to one. we could take a rated R NC17 movie and make it a G1 by just moving those things down. And Hollywood sued them simply for creating a a product that allowed us to filter what was coming into our homes.

44:02 This is important to know when you're when you're trying to understand the narrative, the the the plan of a lot of these things. And so we need to pay attention. We need you know I for years for years I loved Will Smith movies. I loved him. He was a great actor until I started paying attention to the number of PDY parties he was at and what his wife walked in on him doing and who was at some of those parties, etc. I just I simply cannot support movies now that are putting money in pockets of people who are who are so far out of alignment with the principles that I want to teach my family and my children. And so paying attention to everything that's coming into your home and not just the internet, but the movies, etc., and how they're affecting your family.

44:49 >> So on the tech side, we do have the ability with proxies and things of that nature. We we can block things out. We can also track things as well. I think most of the problem with parents or anyone is like, oh, I'm going to track it or I'm going to block it. That's going to fix it. And I think to your point, your kid at 5 years old has already seen porn on the other 5-year-old kids that like, well, I'm going to take away the phone. That's what world are you preparing them for?

45:11 There's going to be phones. There's going to be screens. You know, kids, we already know that we spend a third of our life um sleeping. We now know that kids born now will spend a third of their life on a screen. It's a terrifying thing. So, you're not going to get them away from it. It's going to be there. So, yeah, you can monitor it to keep an eye on, but if you're blocking it, like, oh, I'm not going to give you a phone or you can't do this versus, okay, we're going to have this conversation. I grew up around guns. It just it is what it is. I wish I lived in a world where we didn't need guns. I I really do. That would be amazing. I wish I live in a world that we didn't need to have wars or tanks or that would be great, but I do live in a world that has that. So, I'd much rather be educated on

45:46 it on how to use it because they're not going anywhere. So, it's it's it's not is it legal? Is it not legal? A ton of things are illegal. The things that you went you fought against are illegal. Doesn't mean it stops it. The only thing that can help it is education. So, there is ways to monitor. There is a way to keep this. But don't think that's going to fix it. If you block all the porn in your house, I guarantee you they're gonna figure it out. They're gonna find a way around it. If you block the video games, they're going to figure out just like you found a way to avoid the stuff that your parents didn't want you to do either, right? It just it is what it is.

46:18 So, [ __ ] Sorry. Sorry, Dad. Um, she was cute. I had to go. Sorry. Forgot that. It is what it is. This is what we do. So, being there and having the conversations are important. Now, we talked about training. We talked about monitoring. We talked about keeping an eye on it. What are the things that are the myths that people believe that are hardcoded that oh if this then that the the post hawk ergo proctor hawk the of therefore because of it. What are the things that people believe completely that this is true therefore this happens and it's just wrong.

46:52 Well number one believing that trafficking doesn't happen in our neighborhoods that that that children are safe there that that it only happens in in Mexico or Thailand or Colombia or whatever. The the truth is this. You walk out your front door, I don't care if you're in an apartment complex or or an affluent neighborhood. You walk out your front door, you look down left and you look right. There's a high chance that one of those neighbors is a dangerous place for children. Okay. Now, does that mean that we have to be a a helicopter mom, helicopter dad all the time? No. It means that we need to have those healthy conversations with our kids cuz they're going to end up down the hall. they're going to be down the street. And it's so important that we that we we have those conversations.

47:37 Number two, have don't be letting your kids having sleepovers, guys. That is not a good idea unless you really really really know that family and and where they are. Don't sleepovers is a bad idea. This stuff happens all the time there. And uh uh it also is a big myth that that it only happens to to to girls. No, there's a huge number of boys. The problem is the boys never talk about it. And so understanding that they're as much of a risk as as the girls are and uh and and and recognizing that and having those conversations with them. The um um another another myth is that um oh we got we got a whole bunch of them.

48:20 >> I I'll I'll tell you some real life examples of of undercover operations. I was in um I was running an operation in Cancun. Uh it was over over New Year's and uh we I had done two weeks of undercover that they had identified there was a lot of trafficking, some kids that were brought in from different areas of Mexico to supply the partygoers that were going to be there uh over New Year's. And uh at the time, you know, I had a I had I wasn't married. I had an exh girlfriend that she wanted to bring she wanted to be with me over New Year's. I'm like, I'm in the middle of this freaking operation. I can't. So, she flew down there with her her cousin.

49:02 Um, and uh they they were down there just kind of playing and whatever else. I I made sure they were away from the big city and a little private um uh very secure area, but they were posting her cousin was posting things online. Hey, we're in Cancun, whatever else. Well, I came back with from from the operation area and that night she said, "Hey, uh Paul, look at this. This this guy wants he says that he's a guide and he wants to take us on a free ride on his boat and uh and he can just take us around anywhere. Well, the guy he showed she showed me was the one of the traffickers that was providing kids as young as 7 years old. And what was happening is he was also some of the some of the the the victims that he had were he was scouring the internet identifying anybody who was posting that looked like they were there without parents and uh and he would he would take them and based on his

50:02 conversation with them and how vulnerable they were, he would he would take their passport and their phone and drug them and boom, bring them into this horrific trade. And so your kids do not need to have the entire world knowing where they're checking in all the time on their on their social media. You can't get them away from their social media. You're going to you're going to make them a, you know, a dummy at school if they don't have any. But make it so that the only people that that can actually see what they're doing each day and where they are are people who are their verified real friends. Don't have that open up. This takes a few minutes of your time, parents, to go on and and manage the settings on their social media so that it is not open to the general p public because predators are everywhere scouring on their social media to identify victims.

50:54 >> The other thing I tell people is you can absolutely 1,000% post pictures of your vacation and how exciting it is. Just wait a couple weeks till your vacation is over and then post it. Don't post it while you're there because all you're doing in that situation is telling me you're not at home. I could break into your home and exactly where you are, what you're doing, and I could break into your hotel. So, just get a time delay. You can post it. Just just wait a little.

51:18 >> There's a myth on the internet. I don't know if it's myth or fact where they were interviewing a a absolute waste of human flesh predator who was hunting uh children. And they asked him, they said, "What is the indicator? What did you look for in the children that did it?" He wasn't looking at the children. I was looking at the father. Is the father a threat? And that was the deterrent if I was going to go after the child. Is that myth or is that fact?

51:43 >> No, that's an absolute fact. You know, they I in fact I talk about a lot of that in the sound of freedom book. I talk about uh what predators look for in their in their victims. And absolutely, you know, a a child who the father is absent is a way more of an opportunity for for a predator than one where the the father is is very present. Um, and present, not just still married to the mom, but emotionally present, physically present, right? How go pick up your kids from dance, guys. be be there and and make sure that that guys that the other guys that are there with their kids, you know, aren't looking around trying to figure out which of these kids don't have a dad. Now you're there. Hey, you know, I'm I'm here. I'm holding space for for my kid. In addition to that, um teach your kids awareness. you know, we we um we so many times kids are walking

52:41 around, they've got their headphones on, they've got their phones down, they're they're completely distracted and are not aware of anything going on around them. when you're out in a public situation, the the um they they did some studies with with felons who had committed some heinous crimes against children and they showed um videos or pictures of people in public situations and and asked them the predators, who would you choose as your victim? And it was almost 90% plus of them all would choose the same one based on how insecure they looked, how they were walking, how distracted they were, how how they weren't with other friends, etc. They they seemed alone. They were they almost inevitably they were picking out the same victim on all of these videos because of the fact that these kids were were not trained to be able to deal with life in a public situation. So

53:42 >> So how so give me a way to do that cuz I love situational awareness. I've had it my entire life. It's something that was cuz I grew up in regard my home was very safe but outside of my home was not. So I had to have my head on a swivel and build situational awareness very very early on. It's one of my favorite things in the world that's been taught. If you haven't had that, if it's not part of your core, part of who you are and how your ethos is, how do you train situational awareness if it's brand new to you? The uh we actually have because I feel this is so important. We have we have free things available on the on the liberating humanity website. Um I have some training on there by a guy by the name of Steve Trani. Steve is one of the top situational awareness trainers in the world. He's a He's also one of the

54:27 top edged weapons and and improvised weapons trainers. He trains CIA, FBI, Secret Service, and and uh I I had I had extensive training with him. In fact, most of my operators as well because when you're in those those dark when you're at 2 a.m. downtown Porter Prince, Haiti, the darkest most dangerous city on the planet right now, well, I guess you know, now Porto Viarte is kind of getting up there, but but you you have to understand situational awareness. 95% of of of the times where you had to go to fists, you had to go to your hard skills, 95% of those could have been avoided if you knew what to look for before it happened, you know. And uh there there's um there's a book that I had my operators read called The Gift of Fear. Now, what it talks about, it talks about the thousands and thousands of of things that your subconscious mind is picking up all the time and the

55:27 importance of listening to your gut. Because your conscious mind, there's just a little thin thin part of your world that you're paying attention to. Your subconscious mind out of your peripheral as you were walking into that restaurant, your subconscious mind picked up the fact that there was a guy down that alley that had a big coat on that was too heavy for the heat of the day. Look, but your conscious mind wasn't paying attention because you're late for this meeting in here, right?

55:51 Your subconscious mind can pick up on the the the change of the noise level. When you're sitting there at the at the Starbucks and you're engaged in a conversation, your your subconscious is going to pick up the fact that somebody was arguing in the corner. It kind of got quiet as somebody walked in, whatever. Just trust it. Trust that gut instinct because it's coming from information way beyond what your conscious mind is. >> 100%. And it's it comes from this idea that it was built to keep you from being eaten by lions. That's where this comes from. We're talking thousands of years of this. So, you might want to listen to it because if you're sitting, you're getting little hairs on the back of your neck like because it was designed to you don't want to become prey and there are people who are actively 1,000% hunting

56:35 you. >> So, yeah, >> the next thing I want to talk about, you know, we've talked about, okay, you're an adult, we talked about kids. What are the things because you can't always be there, right? This is the problem with the helicopter theory. They're like, "Oh, I'm going to be around my kids 24 hours a day, 7 days a week." No, no, no, no. It's adorable that you think that, but no. It's like it's the people like the people who think the earth is flat.

56:54 I'm like, "No, that's adorable. Go away." So, since you have this absolute crazy illusion, >> what are the things that you can have on yourself? What are the you know, we I'm going to have sit rep. I'm going to have a situational awareness. I've been relatively trained. What are the things that you're going to want to physically carry upon you? Because I always carry very my my everyday carry has very specific things on me. Always. I' I've designed it. I've It's a very specific way. If I'm going to certain environments, I know not to wear certain watches. I when I travel and I'm internationally traveling, you will never see me with my fancy watches. I'm normally wearing a beat up Casio cuz A, I love it. It's amazing. But B, it it I'm changing the optics of people

57:32 looking at me because if I walk out with my Brightland or my Rolex or my whatever it is, I'm a target now. So, I know to change certain watches cuz I've been taught by people from the IDF and they sat down with me and I brought my luggage. They're like, "Yeah, all of that's going away." I'm like, "Why?" They're like, "Well, that's an $800 luggage. You are now a screaming target." I was like, "What are we like, congratulations, we're going to the Army Circus store." I'm like, "Seriously?" He's like, "Yeah, everything's going to cost 100 bucks." And I was like, "What the hell?" Like, I looked like a bum.

57:57 They're like, "Uh-huh." So, one of the things and it works. Oh, because if you're walking with a perfectly pair of Ray-B bands, you're a Target, dude. Just it is what it is. go to the go to the gas station, get a pair of $9 glasses. Sorry, suck it up and deal. >> What are the things on your everyday carry that you've learned that a parent should have on them, >> a a teenager should have on them, or even a kid maybe should have on them that it gives them a better chance of of not becoming a victim?

58:25 >> Well, I I'll say that um what I carry as a different in my environment and where I'm traveling. you know, if I when I'm in the US, especially in in uh in states that I can conceal, I I I have my I have a Glock on me always. I I you know, my my one of my trainers said, Paul, he says, "What's the most important thing to to have in a gunfight?" A gun, right? If And he said, "And you're trained enough now, if you don't have the training, then don't be carrying it." He says, he says, you're trained enough that it is that it is your responsibility to have one with you because of the training that you have.

59:00 Can you imagine being in a situation where now you need it and you don't have the ability to neutralize that threat right now? Moving on from there, uh, a lot of the things that that, uh, you know, having having having a blade weapon and knowing how to use it was something that now we can we can have that and carry it in different states, different countries and whatnot where I couldn't carry a gun. And that's why getting trained on the effective use of that is super important. Now, uh, I had one of my undercover operators, he was stabbed 27 times and and he's still alive. Now, it's because he knew how to be able to to keep that away from his his vitals, etc. Now, beyond that, beyond that, I I had my operators always carry with them a a tourniquet. Now, you wonder why a tourniquet. Now, this is knowing how to use something like that.

59:52 And if if uh it was funny, we had one of our CIA trainers years ago that we were in a room and he said, he said, "Guys, how many of you have a a first aid kit in your car?" And you know, a few of us raised our hands and and he said, "Uh, what's in that first aid kit?" And I I jokingly said, I said, "Uh, band-aids and Neosoporin, right? Band-Aids and Neosport." And he said his exact words, he said he said, "If you have he said, if band-aids and Neosporin can fix your problem, then you don't have a problem." >> A thousand%. And the majority of people who die in an accident, either a car accident or a knife accident or whatever, the majority of them would still be alive today if within the next 3 or 4 minutes after the accident happened, somebody who knew how to open the airways and had the tools, knew how

1:00:44 to stop the bleeding and have the tools was there and stopped it. It's most of those people would be alive today. And so I had one of I I required our teams to have that knowledge. And we had one of our operators, one of our guys who would be dead today if it wasn't for the fact that the guy that was next to him had a tourniquet, knew how to use it, boom, applied that and and that the surgeon when we got to the hospital said he wouldn't have made it if he if he hadn't had the right care. And so, you know, things like that, just those are physical things, but but it's important, too. We live in a world where you never know. And you don't want to be to the point later on in life you're like, man, if I had known, if I had taken a half an hour course and learned how to properly apply a tourniquet or learned how to open that airway, my child would be

1:01:31 alive today. Guys, it's worth a half an hour of your time to learn that stuff and to buy it and have it on you at all times. >> I remember the first time I did knife training, the instructor came out. He goes, "All right, for everyone who's playing, you have to accept if it gets to this point, you're going to get wet. I just it's going to get wet. It's just you're going to bleed. You just need to accept it. You just have to decide where that's going to be. And I remember someone said this and actually I'll steal it from Jaco individual Jaco Willis Steel Team 3 Brutus company. They said, "What is your most important thing in a fight?" He goes, "Your shoelace is being tied." He goes, "Cuz I'm going to do everything possible to get away as fast as I possibly do. I don't I don't

1:02:08 want to fight you. It's I do not. It's the last thing I want to do." So having shoes that have laces on them, it blows people's minds. if you cannot physically move quickly that you you have a problem. So, this is a this is a SEAL commander who said this. Now, once you get by that, it's the training. There's a mistake that people make all the time when they have weapons or they have knives or they have guns. Uh if you haven't been properly trained in any sort of handto-h hand combat, how to discharge the weapon, how to shoot with different hands if for your eyes messed up or how to discharge it, bear spray.

1:02:39 Just get bear spray. Don't don't go and get a shotgun because, you know, specifically here in the United States, I'm responsible from when the the bullet leaves the the barrel to when it stops. >> So, if I discharge my firearm and it goes through this wall and kills little Suzie on the other side of the wall as I was being attacked by a monster, I am responsible for it until that that weapon to that projectile comes to rest. And that's an important conversation. So, if you haven't been trained on that level, don't use mace. I've been sprayed with mace in training exercises. I can still kill you if you spray me with mace. You hit me with bear spray. That's the end of that conversation. I'm not very much with that. That conversation ends really fast and people like, well, I'm going to get it on me, too. So, the

1:03:21 threat stopped. You got hit with it. I'd rather deal with some really uncomfortable days than the other stuff that happened. So, having those things that that make sense. Obviously, we're not going to give Cargo. >> No, I I was going to do a quick followup on your your uh your get out of the situation. Steve Tanni, the one that the situational awareness, the one of the top edged weapons trainers, he he has what he calls the the Nike move. >> Heels your Nike heels to the attacker and get out. If I don't care, he says, "Guys, I don't care if you are the number one MMA fighter on the planet. I don't care. I don't care what your training is on anything. You win every fight you can avoid. And and don't let your ego think, "Oh, you know, I can I can handle these guys. I can handle this." You don't know. You don't know

1:04:10 what what you know, but my my trainer my trainer showed me. He's like he's like, "All right, let me let me show you something to just kind of get this into place." You know, there there this guy was was thinking he was all big and he was good. He was really good. And he took this guy down because this guy was bowling him, whatever else. Well, the guy just kind of had one hand left and he reached in his pocket, grabbed out a knife. Boom, boom, boom. That guy didn't make it. You know, get out of the situation. If you can remove yourself, your family from the situation safely, do so. And uh but yeah, I love your idea of bear spray. I I actually have bear spray in our motor home, not just for bears, you know, for for those situations. We you know, I have a taser, but you know, I've been tased before by my own taser, and that that it kind of puts me out of commission at the same

1:04:51 time. >> All of us have been tased by our own taser once. Just let's get that out of the way. You know, it is not fun. It is embarrassing. We've all done it. But, you know, we talk about this all the time. You can't outrun physics. If I discharge a weapon and it hits your body, I don't care how trained you are. I don't care how trained you are. You are not going to survive things penetrating your body. So, get the heck out of dodge as quickly as you can. Avoid the fight cuz you might be able to beat the guy. You might be able to beat his four friends, but what about the guy on the balcony who got a firearm at?

1:05:21 You're never going to get away from that. So avoid it as fast as possible. So that's the adult side. For the kids, what should we like? We there's something called a monkey ball. Are you familiar with a monkey ball? So it's just it's a way that you wrap a specific corded thing. They're called monkey part. It's a corded thing. It's a thing, a little ball there. You crack some with it. It won't be bad. So we carry and it's complete yarn. It's monkey balls.

1:05:42 Sometimes there's a marble inside. They're called monkey balls. Um not in a weird way, but that's what they're called. Those are things that when I was a teenager, I had on a keychain because I wasn't allowed to carry knives at school. So, I got trained on how to use what's a monkey ball. How to use it and work through all of those things because what I wanted to carry to school was a tank. But they would let me have a tank in school because jerks. So, but you know, using those little things. So, if you're looking at kids and they're trying to do this, I know there's settings that I do on my iPhone just in case my iPhone gets stolen, which is so important because they have all of your information and they hack it and I've got your passwords and your private pictures and and all of that. Um, understanding that if you do

1:06:23 send something over the internet, congratulations. Sooner or later, it's going to get public. Just it is what it is. It just accept it. It's part of the game. It's it's just surprise. But with kids, what can we give them so that they could have it on every day? Do we want to put those air tags on them? What What do you recommend? >> Yeah. Well, first of all, we we use uh find my friends on on our whole family always has find my friends on and so we can always be seeing where each other is, etc. Uh Air Tags are great as well.

1:06:52 You know, we have a Air Tag in the in the kids backpacks. Now, I will also say this, there are things that you don't want. parents, don't put your son's name on his backpack. That that that that by having, you know, Billy on the backpack or whatever, a predator could very easily say, "Hey, Billy." Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know me? Yeah. Yeah. Your mom said for me to come and get you. You know, that that's that's common. So, if you want to put initials there, that's great. Don't put their whole name there.

1:07:19 Also, have a code word. have a have a uh a code word that if anybody comes to pick you up at school and says that hey your mom's in the hospital I'm supposed to come and pick you up you say what's the code word you know it could be something simpler you know our code word for years was marshmallow with our kids right if something happened where they needed to know that yes indeed mom sent somebody whatever else it was they would say what's the code word the code word's marshmallow okay great you know now I know super simple for them to understand where where that communic communication gap wouldn't be there for a predator to be able to to get in the door, right?

1:07:55 And so >> I love what you said about the name because what we did when I was growing up is we didn't do the names. Instead, what we did was we had a sticker. So we had he would sew something the little patches that we would have and that way I knew that patch was my stuff and we never did names. We did it by a patch because that's how we did it. It was easier and I still to this day remember my code word and know I'm not saying it live on the air. So absolutely not. Oh, we'll say it was marshmallow. We'll go with that.

1:08:23 I remember mine from when I was a kid. He absolutely had it. So, and I remember my neighbor from across the street, his name is Frank Fort. He down in Miami. He was a sports cer. He came and picked me up one day from school and because I got very sick and I'm like, "What's the code word?" And he was like, and he had to call my dad and say, "What is the code word?" Here it is. And this is before, you know, cell phones. So, he's sitting in the school. I'm like, "I can't go with you." throwing up all over myself.

1:08:50 I was told I can't do this because I was taught very early on. >> So for you >> so bad it was so embarrassing. So what about what are the other things that are like gateways to these problems? So we know what we to avoid it but what are the things that you know we talk about pot being a gateway to you know other things which you want to smoke pot please just eat it because I don't want to smell it. It smells so bad. Please on my behalf for everybody else on the planet, quit smoking pot around me. Just eat it cuz oh you stink. Anyway, back to the what is a gateway? What are the things like the chances if you do that the chances that you're going to run into this go up exponentially?

1:09:28 Well, first of all, you know, I I would say that that uh kids that that are on their online gaming platforms that that regularly put themselves out there to, you know, in their conversations and move those conversations from the gaming platform over to a WhatsApp or something like that, that there's there's a it's a telltale sign right there. It happens a lot. That's how the predators move them around. Um and and uh in it in it. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's crazy. Um >> Yeah. And there's there's uh going to um we we've seen a lot of kids that uh especially in the the the second third world countries, places in Mexico, these poor kids um in these poor neighborhoods, they'll uh they'll anytime they'll get addicted to drugs, a lot of times the the predators will get them the the drug gateways are also

1:10:32 predator gateways to other things, right? So, if they can get your your your little Johnny to start smoking and then take some marijuana and whatever, hey, your dad's going to be super mad at you, but this is our secret, right? Well, then this is our secret turns into more this is our secrets. And uh and the drugs inevitably will and alcohol as well. You know, anytime that you can get a child in that kind of a situation where not only are you are you numbing their senses, but you're also making them feel guilt and shame and hey, that's okay. This is our secret. We won't tell your dad. You won't tell your dad. No. No. And so those are those are absolutely gateways to physical and sexual abuse as well. Um because it's important to know that well over 90% of children who are sexually abused and even ones who are sold for sex, over 90% of them it was familial. It was a family

1:11:33 member. We we had one operation where um this little girl was was just barely turned. She was 12 years old and um she was being sold by her aunt. Her aunt was working with the traffickers. Uh, the mother had no idea. The aunt was babysitting her, showing her pornography, and told her, "Listen, you're going to lose your virginity sometime anyway, if you come to this party and lose it to these guys, and I'll pay you $500." She was charging us $5,000 for for this little 12-year-old. And she had already been desensitized because her aunt had been giving her drugs, had been showing her pornography, had been, you know, trust me more than your mom, you know, all of this stuff. And so this this happens a lot. And this was her aunt.

1:12:20 >> So now that I want to go through, >> so those are all gateways. Yeah, those are so it's hard to pivot for this quickly. If there's so much out there, there's so much you've experienced and there's so much you know and you you how do people find out more? Because we could probably talk for the next seven, eight hours, where do they find your book? Where do they listen to it? And then for the people like me who want to just go kill everyone, uh how could we help? What's a what's a more responsible way of helping other than getting on a plane and running around and just randomly shooting people in the back of the head that touch children? Uh, which I think is a responsible thing to do. Just just anyway. Well, how do we track you down, Paul? How do we how do we connect with you? How do we support? How do we keep

1:13:05 our kids safe? What's the best way to get information and find you? >> Thank you, Charles. Uh, a couple things. Uh, number one, liberating humanity. Liberating Humanity is the on all social media. You can go to to Instagram, Facebook, uh I think by LinkedIn. It's just my name, Paul Hutchinson, but liberating humanity will find you there. And you can get information there on everything from the Steve Chani's training to the the the healing retreats to even uh you know the the book sound of freedom um and even even my my new book that's coming out within the next couple months called your infinite wealth. We'll talk about that on a whole different podcast on the golden age of of of conscious capitalism. Um, but the sound of freedom book is available on Amazon. Um, and we are working right now on the audio version for guys like you and me who hate to spend time just

1:14:04 holding the book and I want to just put it on 2x and go through it. So, uh, we're almost done with the audio version of Sound of Freedom and and I'll get that to you as well. >> Perfect. Paul, thank you so much for doing this and for what you're doing and protecting those little ones and hopefully arranging those meetings that you like you and I both want to arrange all the time to let someone else finish them. I just want to arrange all the meetings as possible. I really appreciate it. Thank you for coming on.

1:14:27 >> Well, thank you. One one last website is is if you want to go directly to help the kids, go to childliberation.org. So liberatinghumanity.com or childliberation.org. You can get directly involved with what we're doing to help the kids. >> Perfect. Thank you so much, Paul. I appreciate it. >> That's a wrap on another episode of the Proven Podcast. Positioning beats noise. Clarity beats volume. Stop reacting to headlines. Start shaping the narrative. While others chase attention, you could be building authority. Remember, if you don't control your message, the market will control it for

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Paul Hutchinson, a multimillionaire and founder-turned-investor, shares his work leading undercover child rescue missions and the impact of his efforts against child trafficking, highlighting the scale of abuse and the urgent need for proactive intervention to protect children.

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